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The Time I’ve Loved You: Episode 15

Welcome to the beginning of a two-episode epilogue, replete with our two friendbirds learning how to navigate the transition between seventeen years of platonic togetherness and a newly formed relationship. But to those seeking conflict, you might want to look elsewhere, because who needs that taking up valuable screen time when those scenes could be better served by selling valuable things to us?

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EPISODE 15 RECAP

After their airport kiss, Hana seems a bit taken aback that Won is still going to leave for Paris, since she obviously doesn’t want him to leave. If only there were a way she could have told him earlier that she wasn’t leaving, something like a letter or telegraph…

Hana sighs that she rushed over here since he was leaving, but didn’t really think of what to do past this point. “We got to find out how we feel about each other. That’s enough,” Won says optimistically. Hana still calls him a jerk for leaving.

She produces the necklace he once gifted her, saying she was never without it, and he fastens it around her neck. He pulls her into an embrace by way of goodbye, and she asks, “Will we be able to make it?” “Yes,” he replies. “Whether we’re near or apart, we’re always together.” As he walks away, he makes a heart shape with his arms.

Two months later.

Despite her having turned down the transfer option from Jumei Global, the company still wants Hana to handle their affairs domestically. It’s a lesson in English, since we see also see Won giving a work presentation in English, Korean, and French to airline trainees.

When questioned by a French couple on what he’s going to be doing this evening, he tells them he’s got a video chat scheduled with his girlfriend in Korea. The long-distance aspect of it doesn’t matter to him, he says, since “I’m going to love only her until the end.”

Won and Hana have their video chat after he gets off work, which is early morning for her in Korea. She tells him about Jumei wanting to work with her again, while he tells her how he’s been doing so well in Paris that they want him to extend his stay.

Hana is not having that, so Won just says he’ll come back home as soon as possible. She falls asleep despite her best efforts in front of her computer, and Won smiles as he tells her sleeping form, “I love you.”

At work, So-eun wonders if Mi-hyang is pregnant, because she’s suffering indigestion and a high sensitivity to scent. Meanwhile, Hana finds out from Assistant Hong that she’s been dating her brother this whole time since Hong hasn’t been able to get in contact with him.

Hana does cosmetic repairs on her and Won’s rooftop hideout in anticipation of his return. She remembers when she’d first brought him to the rooftop as a place for him to cry as much as he wanted, unaware that he was crying back then over the letters he never delivered for his friend.

It’s here, where Won could cry to his heart’s content, that became their hideout. A place where she could comfort Won after his mother left, and where she could spend time alone when he was gone. Then, Hana muses in voiceover, it’s here where she realized how deeply rooted Won is to her, and how stupid she was for not figuring that out sooner.

“I miss you, Choi Won,” she cries to herself. Then she adds in voiceover that he also made her realize she can cry just because she misses him, even if she’s not sad.

She goes over to Mi-hyang’s house to see if she’s heard from Won recently, since she hasn’t been able to get ahold of him for days. That’s when a thoroughly freaked out Mi-hyang shows her a positive pregnancy test.

Hana has to talk her off the ledge, and Mi-hyang tries to talk herself into this as she proclaims that she’ll show the world that women in their forties are still women and are capable of being loved and having children. Hana backs her up all the way, and feels better about aging herself when faced with Mi-hyang’s tenacity.

But since Mi-hyang shared a secret with her, Hana shares one in return, though it’s hard to understand through her girlish giggling: “Won and I are dating.” She admits she’s worried because they’ve been friends for so long, and doesn’t know what will become of them if they were to stop dating. Would she lose a friend?

“Won is important to me both as a friend and a man,” she adds. She can’t take the thought of losing him in either capacity, to which Mi-hyang says to stop worrying and just go for it. Mi-hyang supports them fully, and guesses rightly that Won must be over the moon about all this.

Hana hears Won’s voice outside, but assumes she’s just hearing things because she misses him… only to turn around and see Won standing there in the flesh. He opens his arms as wide as his grin, but Hana kicks him in the shin. Does he know how worried she was these past few days?

He said he wanted to surprise her, and came back because he missed her too much. Hana gets over her anger and hugs him, but they separate when her father comes out of the house. He doesn’t know they’re dating, but invites Won over for dinner anyway.

Won plays that he’s hurt because Hana separated from him so fast, only for her to point out that he took his hands off first. It’s only when she calls him jagi (honey, darling, sweetheart, etc.), a term of high endearment reserved for the most serious of relationships, that Won totally melts into a gooey puddle of happiness. He wants her to call him that all the time now.

Mi-hyang tells Teacher Park that she’s pregnant, and of her fears that her complexion and body will get ruined in the process, not to mention the fact that she’ll have to take off work.

Still, she’s resolved to have the baby, and Teacher Park says he’s all for it in his usual dry manner. But they’ll have to find a house first, which makes Mi-hyang do a double take—is he proposing to her right now? He nods, and they embrace happily.

Won and Hana out themselves as a couple to their high school buddies, who aren’t even surprised. When one of them asks how far they’ve gone, Won jokingly shushes them before fake-kissing Hana in front of them.

After telling the Three Stooges at work that being in Paris was extremely difficult (due to this long-distance relationship with Hana), Won is invited out for beer with So-eun.

She knows things are going well between him and Hana, and says that she doesn’t regret liking him, but will keep it as a good memory instead. Disregarding the fact that they already had this conversation, Won at least says that while he found her feelings burdensome at first, he learned from her that he needed to express his feelings.

While Dae-bok comes out of seclusion after finishing his comic master work, Mi-hyang gives Won the contact information for his mother, who called when he was in Paris.

She’s in a nursing home nearby, and Won goes to visit her with Hana. Won asks her why she didn’t tell him she was this sick, but Mom says she feels bad—she’s a bad mother who abandoned her son, after all.

But she remembers Hana, and is happy that she’s still by Won’s side and hopes that she’ll stay with him in the future. “I will,” Hana promises. Hana must know more about her own son than she does, Mom admits, but she’s happy with the man she’s with and that she’ll leave this world knowing that.

Won says there’s no reason for her to talk like that when she’s still healthy, but Mom knows her time is coming. She didn’t want to meet Won in her last moments, but rather like this, when she’s still able to talk and smile. A few tears leak out when she says she doesn’t need a funeral—it’s what she deserves for not being there for Won.

Regardless, Won takes his mother by the hand and assures her that he’ll come to visit often. “I’m sorry, but I did love you in my own way,” Mom confesses. “I’m so glad… that I got to see you.” The man she loves sends them off, apologizing for not contacting Won sooner because his mother didn’t want him to.

Won reminisces to Hana about how he couldn’t understand his mother leaving him as a child to find a new love, using the excuse that she missed his father so much after he passed away. Now he realizes that she’s the kind of person who was very lonely and needed to be loved.

The man she’s with isn’t the kind she would’ve once gone for, but Won comments that those requirements become less important as you age. Which has him thinking… didn’t Hana say she could find her ideal type through a kiss? How does he measure up?

She takes him back to their first kiss in high school, which is when she’d confirmed her feelings. He’d made her heart flutter, just like she claimed her ideal man would do, though she doesn’t admit as much to Won and lets him fret instead.

Assistant Hong is angry with Dae-bok for going off the grid to finish his work, but he confronts her with a flower and a roll of toilet paper. Since the Hanja for flower is hwa, which is also the word for anger, he tells her to let go of her anger by unrolling the toilet paper. And before you ask, no, there’s no deeper meaning here. They just had to sell some toilet paper.

Won takes Hana to a grassy hill he normally goes to when he feels frustrated, but now he wants to make new memories there with her. They walk through the grass barefooted, and Hana takes pictures of their feet as she makes jokes about Won’s toes. Won has no jokes about her feet, because they’re perfect the way they are.

“We’ve been friends for so long, but there’s still a lot we don’t know about each other, isn’t there?” Hana muses. Won says it’s going to be exciting every time he learns something new about her, though nothing will ever be an unwelcome surprise because he loves her so much.

Speaking of which, he mentions how much they called and texted each other while he was away, but she never told him she loved him or sent him heart emojis. Hana says she didn’t because it’s embarrassing (but wasn’t when she was telling Seo-hoo she loved him), but that’s not an excuse to Won.

“I told you I like you,” Hana says, but Won points out that “liking” him and “loving” him are two completely different things. Is she retaliating against him because he said he’d never love her? Hana bizarrely changes the subject to ask if he met another woman while he was away, turning their dinner into a bickerfest of epic proportions.

She tells him later that he gets upset too easily, to which Won fires back, “What? I can’t do that?” To answer that question, Hana says she’ll need to ask her friend, and dials a number…

…Shortly before Won’s phone begins to ring. She talks to him as she would when they were friends, telling him about the new guy she’s dating and how he’s always picking fights during their dates. Won acts like he’s giving unbiased advice as he tells her that her boyfriend probably just wants her to open up to him more.

“He must like you more than you like him,” Won adds. Usually those people are the kind that makes mistakes. “How can you be sure that he likes me more than I like him?” she asks. Then she adds that sometimes she misses him as a friend, to which he returns, “Should we go back to being friends?”

That’s not what Hana wants either. But, she continues the fake-call and asks if she can vent to him about her boyfriend sometimes, to which Won jokes that he’ll even go beat him up if that’s needed. He likes it a little rough anyway.

Despite all the drama surrounding his slave contract that would take him out of Korea forever, Seo-hoo returns to his homeland for a special concert. He can’t help but think about Hana as he plays the scales on his piano, and Teacher Park advises him to translate that feeling into his music instead.

He gives Director Byun tickets to the concert on account of how much their collaboration helped his career, and passes by Hana’s currently unoccupied office in the hopes of catching a glimpse of her.

Mom and Dad are elated that Won and Hana are together now, even though Mom is trying to figure out how to adjust to treating Won as Hana’s boyfriend as opposed to her friend.

Dad hints at marriage, only for Won to say that they’ve only just begun to date, and he wants to date Hana properly before living with her. Mom begins to threaten them should they ever hurt each other, but then backs down to defer to their better judgment—they’ll be able to work whatever disagreements they have among themselves. She’s just happy they’re an item.

Mi-hyang pulls Won into her office to tell him that she’ll be taking a break after their next flight because she’s pregnant. She’s considering it the last bit of good fortune in her life—meeting the man she loves, having a baby—so she warns Won against ruining it for her.

He’s surprised, of course, but happy for her nonetheless. She promises to introduce him properly to the father of her child and smiles sheepishly.

Won waits nervously for Hana at the movie theater, and she shows up looking like she’s about to go to a cocktail party. She’s late, but Won doesn’t have the brain cells to focus on that. All he can see is how pretty she looks and the necklace he gave her around her neck.

He doesn’t let her eat popcorn because it’s too fattening, and lifts the armrest between them so he can hold her hand during the movie. Hana just smiles and pops her straw into his drink, so they can share the same cup. Won smiles like he just scored a home run.

Won protects Hana from a crowded elevator by walling her in with his body, which is when she notices a thread loose on his button. She pulls at it, but the whole button comes off instead, opening his shirt up. Won: “You did that on purpose, didn’t you?”

Once they’re at his house, they find themselves in an awkward situation as Won starts to take his shirt off in front of her so she can sew the button back on. She starts to go downstairs, but Won wrist grabs her in what’s supposed to be a romantic move and pushes her against the wall…

…A bit too hard though, since she lets out an audible “Ow!” He’s apologetic, but tries to keep up the mood as he tells her that there’ll be a different tension with her coming into his room now as opposed to when they were just friends.

She slips out of his grasp and stands closer to the bed, and Won approaches her much more carefully now to kiss her deeply. They stay like that a while, and look into each other’s eyes when they pull away.

A moment passes before Hana playfully shoves Won down onto the bed before joining him, and the rest is history. Hana’s the first to wake up the next morning, and smiles softly as she brushes Won’s hair away from his face.

He wakes up and does the same to her, smiling as he asks if she slept well. He pulls her closer and tells her not to go to work, and tries to cover them up for a bit of fun before she has to go, albeit unsuccessfully.

Later, he gets a call that stops him dead in his tracks, while Hana presents another project at work. For no other reason than that we’re nearing the end, she and Team Leader Hwang bury the hatchet, as does her terrible ex and his now-pregnant wife Min-ji.

The call was about Won’s mother, who was in critical condition earlier but is now stabilizing somewhat. A passing nun gives Won the rosary his mother carried with her, worn from years of praying and inscribed with his name.

Hana shows up to give him moral support, and tells him that she’ll be praying for his mother to recover quickly. She takes his hand and holds it so they can share a silent moment of prayer together.

Won goes up to their rooftop hideout alone to cry, only for it to light up like a Christmas tree. In lights on the wall, Hana’s written “My One,” and reminds him that he can cry all he wants here.

Through his tears, Won tells her that he thought he’d forgotten about his mother since it had been so long since he’d seen her. But he must have missed her, because he feels bad about not knowing she was sick.

“I’m worried I won’t be able to see her again,” he cries. “I’m scared I’ll really be alone.” “But I’m here for you,” Hana says comfortingly. “I’ll stay by your side. I’ll never leave you. This must be what love is to me.”

And then, “I love you, Won.” She spreads open her arms again, and he leans into her embrace, his tears overflowing. Hana just holds him as he cries.

 
COMMENTS

Won’s right about one thing: he’s way more into her than she is into him, and boy does it show. There’s something decidedly off about their chemistry, which was doomed from the start with the vastly different trajectories Hana and Won have had. Hana’s transitioned straight from relationship to relationship while Won has had none over the course of the series (So-eun doesn’t count), so it makes it difficult still to buy that she could switch gears almost instantly from Seo-hoo to Won.

What’s more is that she had to go through so much more to be with Seo-hoo because that’s what she suddenly wanted and was going to get no matter the cost, so by contrast, it seems like she sort of dispassionately walked into a relationship that was already waiting for her with Won. It’s hard to pin why they’re just not working or throwing sparks off in every scene, and while I’d credit most of that to a writing failure in regards to Hana’s character, there’s also something to be said about body language—what I’m guessing is supposed to come off as coquettish behavior reads more forced and uncomfortable than seems intended.

Aside from that, this episode feels like the beginning of a long epilogue, which is exactly what I was afraid of last week. Won and Hana address some issues that needed addressing, sure, but it was all so sapped of weight or dramatic heft that it was really hard to care. It already feels like they’re on the home stretch of their relationship, and nothing they bring up now is going to fundamentally change anything—not because their bond is that strong, but because there’s just not enough time left.

The emotional beats are still lacking, and it kind of sucks that Won is always the one stuck with fly-by-night backstories that come back to haunt him. First it was his buddy Dae-yoon, whose conflict was introduced and resolved in one episode, and now it’s his mother. Obviously the need for a mother figure is a universal thing we can all understand, but the show seemed to go out of its way not to mention Won’s parents or how their absence affected him, so now the sudden introduction of his dying mother feels out of place and just a little purposeless.

It’s good that Won is getting some closure on an issue we didn’t know needed closure before, but again, it’s all so general. I can’t even say it’s conflict for the sake of conflict because it’s not actually conflict, and while it’s an issue that would mean something to any person/character, I wish the show could’ve given us literally anything else that would somehow feel at all unique to Won. But then again, I’ve wished a lot of things for this show, and that’s been working out swell so far.

 
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I personally didn't find the chemistry too off (but then I'm usually unobservant about such things) but a friend told me that Korean netizens were saying Ha Ji-won sucks at kiss scenes. I can't tell...

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They do have chemistry and it's actually quite undeniable. I have a feeling that these two might date afterwards and that would be awesome! Regarding the kiss issue, I was able to read those Korean netizens comments and maybe you're friend failed to tell you that only one person made that comment and the said comment was down voted like a thousand times lol.. which means that they don't agree with the person. And it's a freaking K-drama for crying out loud! The male lead always does most of the kissing. Nothing unusual with that. Korean tv networks have oh-so strict rules when it comes to kiss scenes.

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I don't think these reasons work anymore considering that there have been a number of really great and charged kissing scenes in the past 2 years. Here is was just plain awkward and uncomfortable to watch. I don't know why but HJW does'nt seem receptive to it.

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Great kissing scenes.... Nine (with LJW!!!) and It's Okay It's Love (not just the main couple multiple times, but also Gwang-soo's very very touching kiss) come to mind especially.

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I forgot how great the kissing scenes were in It's Okay That's Love.. Such a good drama..I think I'm going to re-watch it now..aha thanks! :))

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The only great kdrama kiss(es) I've seen "recently" was in Healer. I was shocked. The rest are still doing the zombie kiss. But from what I hear about other dramas I didn't watch, they're making progress. Apparently I Remember You and Mask had some decent kisses.

Baby steps, we gotta be patient, lol.

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Not like you, I thought Ha Ji Won doesn't like doing deep romantic or kiss scenes with Lee Jin Wook. She looks scare of him. Perhaps Lee Jin Wook was too aggressive lol. We can see clearly that his expressions in behind the scenes. My point is, no matter how great the lead male in kissing skill, he should know how to comfort and convince his partner first. It was painful watching Ha Ji Won like she was pushed doing the scenes that she she doesn't want to. She even lock her lips and it was too obvious.

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both are in fault. Ljw did over-agressive, fail to make hjw comfortable but again, I felt pity for him. Hjw, isnt she is a top a-list actress that supposed to be a pro? no matter how you're not comfy, yet you have to keep being professional and did your job correctly, and here she gives cold respond to ljw. Hana is surely very poorly written, but a true talented actress should able to give something good on her char, I just dont feel genuine feeling on hjw's acting as I cant really root for her no matter how painful she has gone trough.

if there is someone say that hjw did good job in kissing scene, LOL, are you really sure you're really being objective watching the kisses??? and what an irony, ljw turned down I remember You, which turns to be much better drama where jang nara done much much better kissing scene and give more genuine performance..

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1) So now we're introducing characters solely for the purpose of killing then off, are we? At least professor What's His Face and High School Buddy What's His Face served some kind of purpose in moving the plot forward. Why exactly is Mom here? Also, I had been under the assumption that she left before Dad died so I was surprised to realize that she left her teenaged son all alone in the world. That's the kind of thing 51st can leave a kid broken (I actually expected Won's reluctance to love Hana to have something to do with her) and is great fodder for character development arcs. You know, if character development was a thing these writers we're into. Which, I guess they are not.

2) Why did we have even two minutes of Murder Eyes this episode? Why is every free, rock and cloud in this drama getting a wrap up and a send off? Don't answer that. I already know why and it makes me sad.

3) Either Minji has had the longest pregnancy ever or this show has managed to make 6 months feel like 12. Don't answer that one either... I already know.

4) Assistant Hong is cute as a button but, apparently she learned more than marketing from Hana. All that Aegyo she threw around have me a headach. Who literally pouts, teary-eyed, to their boss because they haven't heard from their boyfriend? My next career move is to Korea, where dramas have taught me that you don't ever have to be professional on your job.

5) That toilet paper thing really had no meaning? I thought at least it was a cute pun like the Sagwa/fruit/apology thing. So just another two minutes I'll never get back. Starting to notice a pattern here.

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LOL! @Z

Alright, I won't answer... LOLOL!

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to say 'let go of your anger' in korean is 화 풀어 (hwa pureo)
the hanja for flower is also 'hwa'
but also, a way to say toilet paper is 화장지 (hwa-jang-ji)
so he said unravel the toilet paper (hwajangji pureo), which is almost exactly the same as the way to say let go of yohr anger/dont be angry

so yeah, its kinda punny

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@bean,

Nice!! Thanks so much for the break down. A lot of those puns/play on words get lost in translation when watching Korean dramas. (Part of the reason Heard it through the Grapevine was hard to follow through multiple sites.)

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LOL @ #4.

So true. I don't think anyone in k-dramas have real jobs, nor do they actually ever have to do anything.

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Yeah I generally don't care to much about the kisses but even I noticed how bad they were. Her lips we're clamped shut like she had lockjaw. It made me so uncomfortable.

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That's HJW in dramas. I heard she's different in movies. But I can't say cos I haven't seen her kissing in movies.
It's such a pity, cos I've seen some great kissing from LJW - in I need Romance and Nine. What a waste of kissing talent!

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she did good in "closer to heaven" though...

When ljw said hjwon is his best female co-star, I wished it's really the truth... but God... if after this he still say she is his best pairing, then I cant really understand the way he saw his lading lady, because he surely did much better with jung yumi in INR 2.

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Ha Ji Won is much more open when it comes to movies than in dramas. Korean TV shows are much more conservative while Korean movies are allowed to go all out without restrictions. I'm so glad that you mentioned "Closer to Heaven" The movie that Ha Ji Won won a daesang (best actress) That movie was so good and Ha Ji Won was fantastic in it. It had really good kissing scenes and very, very steamy bed scene. To the few ignorant people questioning Ha Ji Won's "kissing skills" you should all go check out her movies and see the sexy and much more open side of the Amazing Ha Ji Won. Moving on.. Now about your comment regarding your delusions that Lee Jin Wook should not choose Ha Ji Won as his best female co-star anymore just because she did not open her open her mouth really wide and stick her tongue out while kissing him. Seriously? What kind of stupid logic is that? All of Ha Ji Won's past male co-stars openly profess their intention to work with her again and some even declare her as their ideal woman. Receiving praises, accolades and admiration is from her peers is just an everyday thing for Ha Ji Won. So What you just said has no bearing at all.

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You should watch TK2H and Empress Ki kisses.. I'm pretty sure she opened her mouth.. not full blown open mouth kiss, but pretty good as drama kisses IMO.
She acts kissing scene better in movies.. but then again, back then in 2004 (100 Days With Mr.Arrogant) we only get lip lock, not kiss.

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I didn't enjoy the last two episodes. Maybe I'm minority here, but it seems Ha Ji Won really feel uncomfortable with intimate scenes in this drama. Did they talk about these scenes carefully with PD, writer and Lee Jin Wook as his partner? In the kiss scene, he slightly peek under her closed-eyes whether LJW already 'finished' his actions or not lol… Not sure whether HJW didn't feel comfortable with LJW or maybe she doesn't like this kinda scenes but one thing for sure, it was so awkward.

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Thanks Heads! Congratulations, you're on the home stretch and it's all almost over.

"And before you ask, no, there’s no deeper meaning here. They just had to sell some toilet paper." I loled over this. I admit freely that I did not watch the show, just FFD bits and pieces and I did come across this scene which puzzled me ... I'm glad to know that it didn't mean a thing and I missed nothing by not rewinding to figure it out! LOL!

I agree with everything you say about lack of emotional heft, everything just not giving (many of) us the emotional satisfaction of ever watching. It's sad that this show with all it's potential has continued to shoot itself in every part of it's own body (not just foot) so that we don't care anymore.

I'm glad that there are some viewers who are able to enjoy this though. Even if there was 1 satisfied customer, I guess we can't call it a total loss. :)

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The Times They Have Sponsored!!
Am glad about just one thing related to this show-Lee Jin Wook didn't take up IRY.!! Him as Hyun-no waaay!

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Yes, that kiss was off. But apparently, if she kisses back with too much, it looks bad. Oh well.... Won is sooooooooooooooo into her. Look at his crazy emotions!

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I'm not liking how they're portraying marriage so far, like it's a convenient way to wrap up an illegitimate pregnancy, or something that happens once couples get pregnant out of wedlock. So far it has happened twice in this drama and I feel like it's going to happen with Won and Ha Na too :/ I don't know, it takes the romance out of the relationship when a guy marries a girl because she's pregnant. It doesn't mean the relationship will work, and if anything it's an added complication/stress, the first being an infant that undoubtedly comes with a lot of responsibility. That, added with a huge commitment like marriage seems like a lot to handle. I just wish these couples were married before mention of pregnancy was made. Call it old fashioned or weird but I don't think I could marry a man after getting pregnant, I wouldn't know why he was marrying me and would constantly second guess the relationship thinking he did it mostly out of a sense of duty.

Anyway that was my speal, thanks so much for the recap you've done a great job!!

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Well, in Korea the stigma for unmarried, single mothers is huge so there's no way they would leave a pregnant character unmarried. Abortion is illegal. So, two taboo topics, which a drama of this sort of course is not going to touch with a ten-foot pole.

Why they are choosing to have several characters with the baby first/marriage follows scenario, I don't know. I agree that marrying just because you are having a baby doesn't mean at all the relationship will work, especially in this drama where people haven't been together for a particularly long time and seem to have had very awkward relationships (involving a lot of hiding and pretending). But I guess it's in some ways a realistic portrayal of Korean society because of course people have sex before marriage and pregnancies happen. And in that sort of situation, marriage is probably exactly what the majority of couples do – there aren't really alternatives unless they are very, very courageous.

I'm not fond of the term "illegitimate", children born out of marriage are not any lesser than other children!

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Still the hypocrisy is ridiculous, go have as much sex as possible but keep up the facade of modesty? What is the point of portraying the society as modest and traditional when people are doing things like sleeping around, and when they get pregnant they're looked down upon like everyone else isn't doing the same thing? It isn't right, and tying back to the drama, Won and Ha Na sleeping together felt...sudden? At best it was awkward, they had been friends for 17 years and were finally close enough distance-wise to date without dialing up via skype, and all of a sudden they're physically intimate? At this point I'm giving up trying to make sense of this show.

I never said they were lesser, nor did I make up the term, but that is the way that children born out of wedlock are referred to as.

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I haven't said a word about hypocrisy (presence or lack thereof), I'm merely pointing out that the way it plays out in the drama probably just reflects Korean society. I imagine many Korean viewers might not even blink twice at the pregnant-get-married scenario as that is just how it's done, without questioning the 'romance' aspect.

Personally, after 17 years I think Won and Hana sleeping together was everything but sudden. I mean, given their general tempo, they might have waited another 17 years for the next step but I'm rather glad it didn't play out like that!

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I didn't mean that you mentioned hypocrisy, only that I consider the double standard to be so. I called it hypocrisy because of the discrepancy in what is portrayed/idealized vs. what actually happens. This is not to say that Korea is the only place that does this, many other places do as well and it's sad in those cases too, but I am pointing out that I think it is wrong. I consider the idea of people having sex and not dealing with the consequences of having said intercourse in a realistic way ridiculous. Like you mentioned the stigma of being a single parent is real, yet what do people expect when they sleep around without being in a committed relationship? If everyone is doing it they should not be looking down on people who get pregnant out of wedlock and choose to raise their children, period. Especially given the fact that abortion is illegal, not that I support the practice.

I feel that people hold up standards of getting married following an unplanned pregnancy to hold onto a false sense of modesty and tradition which ironically cheapens the sanctity of marriage. As I mentioned before I couldn't do this and would have to question the motive of my partner since we were pushed into marriage so to speak. If people get pregnant and are not married I believe that they should work out a way to raise their baby together, this does not mean that they run to court and get married post haste, but that they come up with a plan. I think it is a question of doing what feels right for your relationship. To me it's like you could hide having sex with someone you're not married to, but being pregnant exposes you and takes away any option of keeping things hidden so you do what is "expected" even though this was not what was done from the beginning, thus hypocrisy.

Regarding Won and Ha Na I don't think anyone would have appreciated another 17 year long wait, but I would have liked it if they had taken a little more time, yet again that is my opinion. I'm glad it worked out for you, but I felt it was rushed.

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"..the stigma for unmarried, single mothers is huge..".

And yet every other lost chaebol son or daughter is a result of a single mother...

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Single mother is a human term, not a chaebol one.

You know, it's like in ancient egypt: Incest is forbidden for people but mandatory for the god-king.

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I did not find that the two leads have strong chemistry in this drama. There were some moments, but as being lovers I could not see the passion in her eyes. I love Ha Ji Won but this is probably one of her weaker performance, compare to her previous role in Secret Garden (her chemistry with Hyun Bin was through the roof!). She seemed stiff being around Lee Jin Wook.

I still prefer the original Taiwanese version, not only the leads had strong chemistry, they also made it believable that there was romantic feelings for each other while they were still friends. Even the jealousy was realistic.

I also love the parents in the original version. The female lead's parents, particularly the mom, we're so lovable and thoughtful. The male lead's mom has a better story than Won's mom, which I think brought warmth and simplicity to the meaning of love.

I give it 6 out of then. Maybe another point for Ha Ji Won's collection of shoes and outfits.

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Yup. Ha Ji Won seriously keep her distance to LJW and I don't know why. Even we can see from the first picture above in this recap. Her smile doesn't look sincere.

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60 minute commercial with one HOT kiss scene. That made it worth it. Kind of.

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..But then again, I’ve wished a lot of things for this show..

Yup, sadly the real problem is (in pd-writer pov) we wished too much for this show, which we shouldn't. *sigh*

Hang on! Almost there, Heads, 1 more to go and we'll celebrate the end of awfulness..

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I'm so glad I watched the TW version because I was curious about the way this one would pan out.. I know some people hate comparing dramas..but ut makes me sad because the kversion had so much potential..oh well. anyway I just wanted to say how much I loved how the TW version dealt with the leads growing physical relationship and how awkward it was..since they were friends who knew everything about each other...idk it seemed so much more believable and sweet. this drama was all about ppl in my unfortunate opinion..

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I found the physical relationship one of the most strangest and not believable things in the Taiwan drama. Yes, of course there should have been some awkwardness between YQ and Li Da Ren but they turned YQ, who was very clearly having sexual relationships before, into someone acting like she was a virgin that's totally embarrassed and insecure about her first time. And don't get me started on their wedding night! Biggest cringe scene EVER!

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ah I think get what your saying... I think what I understood was that she wasn't very sexually attracted to LDR while her sexual relationship/chemistry with the other guy was off the charts..but that wasn't a healthy relationship as a whole. With LDR she already loved him and i felt like the sexual aspect just took a back seat for her.. thats kind of how I understood her.. but I do see how it is kind of out of character as she wasn't one to be passive. I guess I never thought of them as having a particularly passionate love..so the awkwardness made sense. I don't think I picked up on the embarrassed virgin bit though..or i just forgot about it.

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TBH, I'm just going by vague memory (I wasn't a fan of the original either – though I managed to watch until the end). I just felt the YQ we saw before she got together with LDR was more like the one to jump the guy, so her awkwardness seemed very sudden and strange to me. I don't know...

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Okay, still not watching just reading the recaps. The whole episode struck me as ... boring? Not only because having an epilogue does this sort of thing, but how many of the ideas felt recycled from other dramas or are just plain cliché? ... Moaning about not being able to get in touch with your boyfriend and then he shows up? Witch's Romance, anyone? The necklace that Hana hasn't taken off (how touching...not). The high school friends asking about how far they have gone etc etc

<Hana sighs that she rushed over here since he was leaving, but didn’t really think of what to do past this point.

Hahahaha.... yeah, thinking isn't Hana's strength's is it?

So, Hana was going to Paris for a longer time, but then didn't, and now Won's job abroad magically turned into a trip of a couple of months?

And what's with the random introduction of characters? The whole mother scenario is so off. It's the sort of thing that is supposed to make you sympathise with a character, but all I could think was... "How fake, how obviously fabricated." You need to lay groundwork for these kind of things...

Also agree that the romance is just off. Won is so much more into Hana than Hana into Won. Which makes her scenes of missing him just not all that believable... But somehow it feels this comes down to the acting too (I'm getting the impression from the comments of those who are still watching) – HJW not giving her all, while poor LJW is being wasted (How much more chemistry was there in that kiss in the opening scene (!) of Nine! And where at the end of this drama, where chemistry should be sky-high.).

Loving the snark in the recap though. Personal favourites:

– "If only there were a way she could have told him earlier that she wasn’t leaving, something like a letter or telegraph…"
– "And before you ask, no, there’s no deeper meaning here. They just had to sell some toilet paper."
–"For no other reason than that we’re nearing the end, she and Team Leader Hwang bury the hatchet" ---> I think this sums up why pretty much anything is happening in the drama right now.

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<While Dae-bok comes out of seclusion after finishing his comic master work

So, he's magically going to be successful now?

<This must be what love is to me

That, and fluttering hearts.... I don't know, all they say about love makes me cringe.

And the call-a-friend scene... is that from the TW drama? Or where else have I seen this scene before?

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Yes, the "call a friend" scene was a nod to the original though (I just read it and did not watch it) it did not seem as well executed as it was it the original. I think because in the original, YQ and LDR spent a decent amount of time on the phone. In this version, the couple spent a lot more time in person so that may be why it didn't make as much sense.

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For someone who doesn't watch this drama, you sure know a lot of things. lol.. And it seems that you sneak into forums where this drama is loved and appreciated for you to acquire " the so-called comments that gives you the impression that Korea's National actress is not showing her superb acting ability to it's full potential" Nope! You're wrong. It doesn't really matter what a few international fan girls of the male lead think. They can make things up with their delusional minds and none of it has an impact to the drama. What matters here is the Korean viewers/netizens opinions. They do blame the tv network, director and 3 batches of writers for the simple story line but none of them, ever questions Ha Ji Won's acting ability. She was magnificent in all of her past successful dramas and still is magnificent in The Time We Were Not In Love. And Lee Jin Wook is being wasted? Oh Please! He is lucky to be paired to Korea's most sought after actress.

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Eh, this is the only K-drama website where I comment and I'm a regular, not not sneaking in here (where, btw the consensus seems to be that this drama is a big fail).

FYI, I'm not fan of either actor (or any actor) because fandom is a teenage thing. I've liked HJW in some of her projects, and found her not compelling in others. Same for LJW. Both are average actors in terms of their abilities, nothing more, though I've seen better kisses from LJW in at least one of his dramas.

That's it! Cheerio. :-)

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LJW is wasted here because he is supposedly a better kisser.

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LJW only kiss…kiss…kiss…but his acting is so average. I can understand why he became so aggressive towards Ha Ji Won.

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When the highlight of a long drama is one lousy kiss scene, you know it has some problems.

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Oh C'mon! You know what forum i was pertaining about. It's obviously not dramabeans. All you get here are whinny delusional fan girls that are fixated with makjang story lines, fantasy crap and shirtless guys that happens to be a spy. Not a reliable place to seek for really good worth watching dramas. If you want the real deal then you should check out the big league forums where people are open-minded and judgments are not clouded. Average acting abilities? LOL.. Let Ha Ji Won's long list of successful dramas, movies and the major acting awards she won do the talking. Bye Felicia!

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You need to chill, lady!

First, not everyone in Dramabeans is delusional fangirls who only adore Oppa/Unnie without critical thinking. And even if I were a fan of any actor mentioned here, I would still criticize his/her drama if the said drama is bad. Some of the commenters here also said valid arguments without showing being a fan of any actor.

Second, though I love HJW and I love some of her dramas, I also think TTWNIL is her weaker performance, if not the weakest. FYI, I've watched almost all her drama, from Damo to Hwang Jin Yi, SeGa, K2H, EK, etc not to mention her movies.

Third, the chemistry seems off. I like both actors individually, but here I can't buy their romance or any romantic scenes.. Most probably because I can't see any spark between the two leads.

Fourth, whatever the knetz said, it doesn't mean we, i-fans can't say anything about the drama. Knetz and i-netz can have different opinion and both opinions can be valid IMO.

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The show failed to sell the romance which was kind of the whole point of the drama. *sigh*

I still don't get what kept Hana and Won apart for so many years or their random decision to finally couple up. I think the writers ended up giving the Seo Hoo and Hana episode too much attention....so much so I got the impression that Hana loved Seo Hoo much more than she would ever love Won.

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This episode is DAEBAK! I can't help but smile like a fool and feel all giddy the whole time i was watching it. Ha Ji Won is known to have so many titles and one of them is THE Queen of chemistry and boy did she prove it once again! Ha Ji Won and Lee Jin Wook are so perfect together! So much chemistry it can burn off the screen. Is there anything Ha Ji Won cannot do? Seriously? This woman has no flaws at all. She's magnificent in sageuks, oh-so adorable and relatable in rom-coms, scary as hell in horror movies, endearing and effortlessly good in dramas and is THE queen of action. Such a versatile actress.

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Omonaaa..!
Are you my dopelgangger?? My say about this drama is quite the opposite. Drop this since eps 4 and following HN2 recaps occasionally. Love Ha Ji Won in What happen in Bali and Empress Ki, but her cemmy with male lead is too dry too handle. She should concentrate her acting to historical drama. No passionate kiss is (necessarily) needed. Just like she did in Empress Ki (with both Joo Jin Mo and JCW). No offence to Miss Ha.

Going to review my DB identity, though. We are alright, chingu! :D

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Oh My? What do we have here? Similar usernames? No biggie! I think that's the only similarity that we have because i LOVE this drama. I love the simplicity and how realistic the story line is. The characters are relatable and the chemistry is undeniably good. Of course, Ha Ji Won is fantastic as always. I guess some people like you are just so ridiculously into the fantasy crap and fictitious men characters that are too good to be true. Don't get me wrong, i love a little bit of fantasy especially when Ha Ji Won is the main lead but too much fantasy and makjang is just incomprehensible and tiring. That is why The Time We Were Not In Love is refreshing to me. It's like having a good slice of reality. Plus, this the total departure for Ha Ji Won who is known best for playing bad ass tough woman roles. Love seeing her looking pretty and all dressed up fashionista. Passionate kissing? She did a good job. It was a sweet and tender kiss scene so there's no need for unnecessary mouth opened widely movements. And this is Korean drama people, i repeat a Korean drama! It's not like this is unusual or shocking. If i want to see Ha Ji Won kissing passionately, I'll go watch her movies. I am not into erotic, aggressive kissing scenes that every American TV show has. I prefer gentle, tender, full of love kiss scenes that i see in some Korean dramas.

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Helloo @queenb
Are you happen to be the same person under the name @thetruthhurts? The tone of both comments, the choice of words seem a like. Well, sorry if you are two different people.

Some of your comments above were a little over dramatic ("I guess some people like you are just so ridiculously into the fantasy crap and fictitious men characters..blah blah")

I do not find it necessary to response further. I personally have no offense to HJW or LJW.

Have a nice day, chingu!

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kiss scene not bad for God sake it korean drama people

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not bad if it's compare to hjw's dramas... but it's pretty bad if you compare it to ljw's dramas.... and hjw is even not same level with PSH. yet PSH did better in pinocchio.. sigh...

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this is the kind of epilogue i'd have wanted for IRY.

I skipped all the episodes of this show from 6 (?) onwards but was curious about the last one so decided to watch some of it. I was bored out of my mind.

If anyone had told me i'd have been bored stiff watching two good looking ppl being lovey dovey i'd have scoffed, but this show just took a new low. slow clap.

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I've been hearing how popular ITWY way before but I somehow only end up watching it when news of remake came out. Loved it most especially the ending that I wish I discovered the show sooner. My kind of fanservice ending as I call it!

Got excited to start off the remake right after when I saw the teasers coz it was such an eye candy but then also got curious at the hate it receives when I read comments here at Dramabeans. After reaching the last few episodes of TTILY, I can see why many especially those who loved the original like me, is really disappointed.

It felt like they only copy some of the scenes from the original that they think would work but not really the concept and heart of the show. It felt flat and it didn't even coincide to the changes they made on the show. Like for example the epic sweet make up removing scene from the original felt out of place when inserted in the remake. The original has more direction to their story and the bestfriends conversation was deep and touching that had me a lot of insights and not just bickering. Where is that "Possessing is the beginning of losing" feel of fear and sweet and calm talking from Won that made Da Ren such an iconic character? Won is just a timid admirer that you can't root for.

And no matter how annoying the long Ding Li Wei arc was, at least you feel that he's really a jerk and how Da Ren really cared for You Qing as a bestfriend and he's upset that though he may be quietly loving her, he's willing to give way if believe the other guy is deserving which Ding Li Wei is not. It's how even our girl bff would react if we fall into the wrong guy. Da Ren was upset not just because he's jealous or possesive. While Cha Seo Hoo you don't know what image he is projecting. Is he a playboy jerk that two timed Hannah w/ his manager or just really love his craft to the point of neglecting Hannah.

And with the ending! I believe it was more realistic that in the original it was awkward for them a first when they finally got together. It turned out sweet. And they still talk a lot to each other despite the distance and them on a relationship already so no wonder they worked. That was a nice portryal & example for those whose also in a LDR. While the ending here in TTILY just turned to be a cheesy some other epilogue. *sighs*

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thank you for writing this. i think you pretty nailed it! i'm a big fan of the original and wanted to give the remake a chance but it became off-putting when the remake left out the heart of the original. i stuck to the recaps just to see what was going on but couldn't even read them thoroughly because the drama was just so bad.

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I think it helped a lot in the original that LDR actually pursued a relationship with another person himself. At least you didn't feel like he had put his life on hold for 17 years while with this version I just don't understand what kept them apart for so long, why he didn't confess etc.

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This is one of those really bad dramas I have watched in a long time. It was really good in the first few episodes then it just went downhill.

Brilliantly recapped, you must have a lot of patience. :)

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I'm happy to second the "brilliantly recapped" comment. I made it only half-way through episode 1 before calling it quits. But love the recaps.

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Brilliant recap indeed. That is why I am here for this show. Somehow Lee JinWook grining all the time, and Ha JiWoon being cute is just bothering me. Well, actually everything bothers me, except HJW's fashion. Just my opinion.

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"What’s more is that she had to go through so much more to be with Seo-hoo because that’s what she suddenly wanted and was going to get no matter the cost, so by contrast, it seems like she sort of dispassionately walked into a relationship that was already waiting for her with Won. It’s hard to pin why they’re just not working or throwing sparks off in every scene, and while I’d credit most of that to a writing failure in regards to Hana’s character, there’s also something to be said about body language—what I’m guessing is supposed to come off as coquettish behavior reads more forced and uncomfortable than seems intended. "

very well said! what a disappointed while I think it's only one that would make this drama still appealing, in the end, the chem turns out awkward.

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@anglvue Thank you! Yeah. I think I also can point out how the remake started the Cha Seo Hoo arc way too early as compared to the original that's why most who like the show from the start dropped it halfway. I finished this remake because I usually finish what I started for closure sake. Thank God it's over and I can move on now though it will probably take a while to get rid in my mind the disappointment I had for the show.

Better luck next time with remakes, Kdramagods. And specifically remake of twdramas at that.

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LOL. That toilet paper thing cracked me up! So it really had no cultural reference of some kind? NO? :/
Oh Won, it's sweet of you to think about her figure, but that giant soda cup is probably ten times more fattening than popcorn.

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Toilet paper itself doesn't have any meaning. The pun is the action unrolling of the paper (so any kind of roll will work). Flower is 'Hwa' (=anger) and unrolling is 'PulDa' (=resolve, unravel).

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For all of you that love to watch a deep kiss go to see a XXX porno actress in XXX "nice and sweet" porno movies. And a commercial advertising for all haters on this forum including the Heads2 : The hate destroy your health your beautiful body and your "beautiful and clear mind"

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You don't need XXX porno movies to see a decent kiss. Pretty much any G rated one. Except in Korea.

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1) I did agree that the writers & PD emphasized too much for Seo Hoo character to come out early & long 4-5 episodes which caused the show to be boring & frustrated. I almost dropped it in the middle. Besides, there's no chemistry between Hana & Seo Hoo at all. I thinks this new actor didn't suit well w/the character. With his killing eyes, he would probably great in other roles.

2) I thought the writers deteriorated Hana character by not showing her hidden feelings & thought to Won earlier in the show which reduced the chemistry between Hana & Won in the later episodes & made their chemistry to be unrealistic.
However, there's the undeniable chemistry between the leads (LJW & HJW) in the scenes & BTS. They're really cute, playful, & funny which I wanted the ship them in real life.
Anyhow, HJW really needed to improve her romance scenes & kissing skills which she, herself, had mentioned in the interview that she kinda lacking. I saw her every dramas, she always closed her lips tightly when kissing with her partners no matter in What happened in Bali w/JIS, Hwang Jin Ii w/JGS, Secret Garden w/HB, King II hearts w/LSG & Empress Qi w/JCW etc. Besides from serious romance & kiss scenes, her acting, eyes & facial expression are superb & natural.
I have no comment on LJW's acting to be Won, he nailed the character out perfectly & naturally.
I looks forward to seeing 1+1 next movie, "Risking life for love".
3) I thinks it will be better for K drama not to do the remake especially with TW drama which some kinds of boring, and comes out with the own idea for the story. It will be much more initiative & interesting without the harsh comments or comparisons.

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Yeah, the moment HJW was cast as Hana, I knew we could say goodbye to any prospects of good kissing. But I hoped there would be cuteness. Sometimes the kisses suck but the rest of the relationship/ust/chemistry can make up for it.

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Methinks people watches drama on national TV not for its kissing scenes. Some dramas even showed us its kiss was just fake. Go watch those steamy kissing scenes on adult movies instead, gurls!

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The drama was boring, the chemistry was off and HJW looks uncomfortable playing romantic scenes, which surprises no one.

But nothing bugs me as much as LJW's 90s boyband hair.

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I thought that part of the rationale behind the live-shoot system was that it allows writers/PDs to change things when they are aren't working, and that often they read K-drama blogs and comments to see how netizens are responding to their show.

This show was clearly not well mapped out to begin with and had at least one writer switch, so it's not as if there was a set vision that had to be carried through to the end.

Did the last writer not read a single comment? Nothing about this show worked, yet it kept pushing Seo Hoo and that ridiculous storyline on us; it kept destroying Hana's character; it kept making up crazy reasons for … well, everything. I just don't understand, and pretty much all the comments on here tell me that I am not alone.

Thanks for the recaps, Heads!

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Too bad the meaningless toilet paper was the climax of the episode... I feel like nothing happened at all.

Otherwise, as a French person, I laughed so loud at the fake French place Won was staying (it looked soooooooooo Korean for some reason: windows, floor, ceiling...) but the actor has an okay accent, you can get most of what he says without trying. But the French couple (who actually spoke French with a real accent for once in a kdrama!!! that's a bonus point for the episode, right?) was awkwardly kissing out of nowhere for no purpose whatsoever. Great French characters added to that episode!

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I'm glad the pain is finally over. This episode and the next are seriously boring. I felt so disengaged from the characters. The chemistry seems off and the leads felt awkward. Not sure what happened to the earlier chemistry between the leads. I'm just not feeling that in these two episodes .... or could it be there the drama is so badly written?

I'm not one to compare remakes with the original. In fact, I was rooting for this drama right from the start. But after following the drama faithfully, I can honestly say that this is probably one of the worse HJW dramas I've seen.

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this drama is a disappointment.

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Ha Ji Won certainly is the highlight of the drama. I appreciate the way she presented her character through varying her speech, expression and body language, be it a complicated emotional scene or merely a simple ordinary scene. Without her presence and thoughtful performance, the drama would have been dull and unenjoyable. She made Hana a lively and fun character, a character which is very different from the ones she had in the past. Great job from her and I look forward to her future projects!

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Preach! Spill the truth tea. I agree with every word that you said. Ha Ji Won is the ONLY reason why this drama is worth watching and She is the only reason why i watch Korean dramas. I have never seen any actor or actress that possesses such superior acting caliber and versatility that she can pull off any character in whatever genre of acting. The way that she immerse herself in character is amazing. You don't see any trace of Ha Ji Won or all of the past flawless characters that she portrayed. Even with scenes without dialogues, The way that she conveys her emotions through her eyes. She's so freaking good! Aigoo.. Why are you so perfect Ha Ji Won? Why? LOL.. That's enough fan girling for me.

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I actually think that LJW was the best part in this drama. HJW on the other hand seems like she stopped acting in the last two episodes. Especially the romantic scenes were unnatural and kind of weird. You can tell just by watching her eyes that she's not comfortable at all and just wants to get over with it. It's really a pity since LJW does such a good job and puts a lot of effort in it.

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I'm glad she didn't too open about that. LJW totally enjoying having love scenes with HJW and I felt it's disgusting. It comes from film shooting to real (from behind the scenes that I watched). And I understand why HJW felt uncomfortable and looks frightened. Thanks God, it's finished. LJW's fans are ridiculous if they said LJW is being wasted. he only know how to kiss. He should improve his skill actings more so his fans would not feel he's being wasted and have something to remember beside kissing scenes if the romantic scenes not satisfied them >.<

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I love Younha's The Real Reason We Broke Up! I have been listening to it for so long I was really surprised when the song started playing here. Haha, sorry I just wanted to say. ^^

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I really love this drama, I was hesitant to start it because everyone was saying how boring it was but I ended up loving it instead and I found Oh My Ghostess a bit so-so even though everyone kept going on about how fantastic it is. The charm of this drama lies in its simplicity, there's very little angst and it's a drama that makes an easy watch. The fact that Ha Ji-won and Lee Jin-wook have fantastic chemistry helps too. I tried to stay away from recaps but I just thought I needed to show my love for this drama that everyone forgot about. I teared up a little while watching the last two episodes, it was definitely worth it.

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wow, what's wrong with some people here...this is a public broadcasting tv series where there are regulations to the level of kissing needed. If you want something erotic and hot to satisfy your desire, then a tv drama is NOT for you. Some people just have nothing better to do. Don't criticize for the sake of criticizing.

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You haven't watched It's Okay, It's Love, have you?

On SBS, not cable either.

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Does anyone know the title of the song played when Mi Hyang surprisingly heard teacher Park proposal?? Thanks in advance to those who will make an effort to answer!

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How is it possible that the last 2 episodes simply made up for a whole lot? Don't know how, but it did! With episodes 15 and 16, all is forgiven dear drama. I loved this couple in my own way. Just took them a whole series to get their freak on but...ok. Worth it!

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Kiss scenes in Queen Inhyeons Man can't be beat!

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Also..almost forgot...Lee Jin Wook was an extraordinary kisser in 9 Nine Time Travels.

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I love the drama " It' s Okay, It's Love.
The kiss scene near the water and what ' s follow is quite sexy.

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