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Yong-pal: Episode 13

Life for these newlyweds may look idyllic on the surface, but this hour introduces the possibility that our good doctor may not know the woman he’s married to as well as he thinks he does. Any doctoring is kept to a bare minimum in favor of company politics now that Yeo-jin’s back from the dead, but at least it doesn’t seem like the three years spent in a coma have dulled her business acumen as much as it’s sharpened her senses (and possibly also her teeth).

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EPISODE 13 RECAP

Thanks to the detectives with him flashing their badges, Tae-hyun is able to get past security to burst into Yeo-jin’s funeral before Do-joon’s goons can take her away.

Do-joon urges the police chief to arrest Tae-hyun, since he’s the one who called Yeo-jin’s “death” and ran away with her. But Tae-hyun holds up the marriage certificate and proclaims that Do-joon is no longer Yeo-jin’s legal guardian, because she has a husband now.

Seemingly oblivious to the makjang drama playing out in front of him, the police chief answers Do-joon’s claims that the marriage is invalid due to Yeo-jin’s madness by repeating what Yeo-jin says: that he can take it to court if he wants.

In the meantime, and for some reason now that she has a husband, the police chief agrees to honor her request to be protected by the law. Do-joon’s ready to protest, but President Go warns him to keep his temper—they still have the One USB, after all.

After Do-joon and Yeo-jin send each other threatening telepathic messages, Do-joon pretends to amicably agree to the police chief’s decision regarding his sick sister. He makes it very clear to Tae-hyun that he’s going to make a call to the States about someone else’s sick sister as a threat.

That’s when Yeo-jin tells him that if he had just let So-hyun go to the United States without using her as bargaining chip, she and Tae-hyun would’ve just lived quietly without ever coming back.

But then, she admits, she wouldn’t have seen her father’s will and known what he really thought about Do-joon. Most of all, she wouldn’t have found out about his secret promise with her fiancé.

This is enough to get Do-joon to demand that the police chief arrest the two of them immediately, before he proceeds to threaten the whole room with the damning information he has on the One USB. “That’s it,” Yeo-jin thinks to herself—the trap she’s set for Do-joon has been sprung.

Do-joon thinks he has an ally in the chief prosecutor, but he’s not there to help Do-joon. He points out that those assembled at the funeral aren’t the ones he has dirt on in the One USB, even though Do-joon swears up and down that he saw their names there himself.

Regardless, more prosecutors shove past security to apprehend him, on the charge that he sent out a text the night before pressuring funeral attendees by threatening to expose the secrets on the One USB. Do-joon claims he never sent that text, which is when Secretary Min steps in to show them the text on Do-joon’s cell phone.

It was Secretary Min that sent the text, and Do-joon realizes it when his secretary shows solidarity with Yeo-jin by bowing to her. “Do you think you’ll make it out alive after this?” Do-joon snarls to the room when the One USB is confiscated. Probably a bad idea, but then again, he’s full of them.

Do-joon is arrested, and he tells President Go to call his lawyer before he’s carted off in handcuffs—but not before he can send one final murderous look in Yeo-jin’s direction. He’s comforted at least by hearing the chief of security putting in a call to So-hyun’s caretakers in the States, grinning at the mere thought of revenge.

Thanks to Doo-chul Ahjusshi though, Detective Lee is able to confiscate President Go’s phone before he can even make a call, announcing that they’re arresting him for being an accomplice to murder. He gets permission from the police chief to do so by proffering the little black book of confessions Scarface wrote up.

While everyone else salutes Yeo-jin’s return as Chairwoman of Hanshin, a group of protestors bearing a portrait of the dead factory worker’s face burst into the funeral hall surrounded by the media. Yeo-jin bows to them and steps aside so they can place her portrait at the altar, having planned for this.

Addressing the media assembled as well as the protestors, Yeo-jin gives her sincere thanks to the factory worker, since she wouldn’t be here today without having pretended to be her. Since she was wrongly dismissed from Hanshin Electric, Yeo-jin apologizes to her family and promises that they’ll be compensated for her loss.

Also, she promises to honor the woman’s memory today by holding her funeral, and by hiring back any other employees who faced the same unjust treatment. Hanshin Electric will also not be sold off like Do-joon wanted, much to the crowd’s joy. The blood of those who wronged the woman, Yeo-jin promises darkly her as she faces her portrait, will be offered on her altar.

Chae-young accepts a ride from Yeo-jin after the funeral, and half-sarcastically congratulates her for winning. “But the marriage is fake, right?” she seems eager to know, even though Yeo-jin provides no answers—she’s too busy having an out of place flashback montage of her time in the hospital.

Nurse Ahjumma finds Nurse Oh tending to Chief Lee in his hospital room, and tells her the news: Yeo-jin is now chairwoman, while Do-joon’s been ousted. (That was awfully quick.) Chief Lee hears that Yeo-jin is alive with fear, considering he tried to kill her and all, but he’s too weak to do anything about it.

Yeo-jin is welcomed back to the home her brother’s been inhabiting by all the staff who are now loyal to her, but Chae-young isn’t. Yeo-jin coldly orders her things removed from the house immediately.

We find Tae-hyun at the police station with Detective Lee while his partner interrogates an unforthcoming President Go. Even though they have Scarface’s confession that Go ordered the deaths of both Nurse Hwang and the hospital director, along with text messages Go sent ordering murders. Wouldn’t the attempted murder on Tae-hyun be included then, since he texted orders to Scarface?

But despite having all that evidence, Tae-hyun worries that President Go will be released if he doesn’t confess. Even Detective Lee says that proving the charge will be tough, though at least now he’s respectfully calling Tae-hyun by his title and full name instead of Yong-pal.

Secretary Min sends Hanshin lawyers to bail Tae-hyun out of jail, unaware that he’s already been released by Detective Lee with only a fine to pay. Now that they’re buddies, Detective Lee even encourages Tae-hyun to make house calls—as long as they’re not to gangsters, of course. Just for funsies, Lee growls “Yong-pal!” the way he used to do one last time.

Tae-hyun is clearly uncomfortable with all the respect he’s getting, even from Secretary Min, who comes to escort him home to Yeo-jin. He tries to get Min to call him something less formal, but Min claims that his title was decided at the board meeting that totally happened off screen (and solved everything).

He also holds an important position within the company now, as the heir to the largest shareholder in Hanshin Group. He’s the equivalent of the chairman’s wife, only he’s the chairwoman’s husband. Tae-hyun laughs like he wishes he could find a hole to crawl into and never come out.

The chief prosecutor finds Do-joon in a waiting area of the office and tells him the One USB he had was a fake. Do-joon is sure that that’s just his way of covering everything up, and guesses that the chief prosecutor will keep the files for himself to use as insurance.

It’s only good news for Do-joon if that’s the story the prosecutor sticks to though, since the USB’s nonexistence would invalidate the crimes he’s supposed to have committed.

But it does seem like Do-joon has some sort of deal going on with the chief prosecutor, since he boasts about how he’ll retake the company from Yeo-jin and invites him to just watch for now and share a drink with him later. Likewise, President Go is acting equally unfazed and cocky in the prosecutor’s office too.

Tae-hyun’s attempts to squirrel out of being taken to Yeo-jin’s home don’t work with Secretary Min, who tells him that he’ll become comfortable with his new home soon enough. “And later, it will become a place that you can’t ever give up.”

Secretary Min appoints a personal bodyguard for Tae-hyun, which only makes him feel more burdened. Secretary Min pulls him aside for a private chat, and surprises him by dropping all the formalities—he wants to talk to him as Doctor Kim Tae-hyun for the last time before he crosses that threshold and becomes his much fancier title again.

He seems to be warning Tae-hyun not to let all this newfound power go to his head, because even if he’s powerful, he’ll always be vulnerable to someone. Secretary Min just wants him to be vulnerable to Yeo-jin, he claims, before reverting back to stiflingly formal politeness and apologizing for his rude behavior.

There’s no hard feelings on Tae-hyun’s side, but he does call out Secretary Min for apologizing without meaning it, though his smile says the two of them are good.

The house has been cleared of most of the servants so as not to make Tae-hyun uncomfortable, though he finds Yeo-jin in the kitchen attempting to cook up a meal with the chef and wraps his arms around her from behind. She turns around so she can reciprocate the embrace and welcomes him home emphatically.

Chae-young drinks away her sorrows at a bar, and finds herself bereft of words when she tells a man she offended, “Do you know who I am?” Only she can’t tell him who she is since she isn’t anymore, and without her title, Chae-young doesn’t know what’s left.

Tae-hyun makes soy bean stew for Yeo-jin the way his mother used to make it so she can rest instead. The household staff looks in on the two lovebirds with huge grins, as Tae-hyun looks for the missing ingredient: his mom’s secret ingredient, aka MSG. Hah.

Meanwhile, President Go wastes Detective Lee’s time with stories and anecdotes about how he’s not going anywhere to stall until his lawyer arrives. Cue maniacal laughter.

After Tae-hyun spoon feeds his stew to Yeo-jin while they both sit comfortably on the kitchen counter and even does the dishes (winning him points with the staff), Yeo-jin asks, “When should we have our wedding?”

Tae-hyun’s the typical boy who says they’re already married and don’t need an expensive and elaborate ceremony, even though Yeo-jin wants to wear a wedding dress for an event that’ll only happen once in her life. Soon enough though, he caves, and lovingly tells her he’ll do whatever she wants.

He weirds the both of them out when he calls her yeobo, a term of endearment commonly used among married couples, but they both get a good laugh out of it. But Yeo-jin pauses when Tae-hyun says they should retire to “our room,” asking him where his mind is.

She playfully huffs that they didn’t have a wedding (ergo no wedding night), and Tae-hyun jokes that she’s not well enough for whatever he might have been thinking. He’s not joking when he adds, “I told you before. Until you’re free from your painful past, I can wait.”

Yeo-jin thanks him for his thoughtfulness, but tells him she’s already over that past. “Should we go?” he asks, and when she nods, he picks her up in a bridal carry to her wheelchair. They part ways for their own separate rooms then, and Tae-hyun’s shown to his quarters in the guest house by the head maid who’s either clumsy or partially blind.

After receiving a secret note with concerning news about his son from his lawyer, President Go goes back to acting high and mighty with Detective Lee—soon enough he’ll be handed over to the prosecutor’s office where he has friends. They’ve already gotten the order to send him, which neither the station chief or Lee’s partner are happy about.

Despite the head maid’s coldness toward him, Tae-hyun sits her down to perform a rudimentary vision test, concerned about her constantly bumping into furniture. She has terrible peripheral vision, which he claims could be due to a tumor pressing on her optic nerves. He urges her to go the hospital, his concern enough to break through her icy exterior.

President Go is served prison food in the interrogation room, and though we can see the wheels turning in his head, we don’t know why. At least until he takes out the note from his son, shatters his bowl against the wall and slits his own throat before the detectives can get to him.

He bleeds onto the note that put him into such a state, which reads: “Father, save me.”

The next morning, Tae-hyun’s ready to leave without eating breakfast, until the head maid guilts him that the kitchen staff would be disappointed. He goes into the dining room to find way too lavish a spread for just one person, but still does his best to eat as much as possible. That’s just wasteful.

Yeo-jin’s wheeled in, wanting to be the wife who sees her husband off to work in the morning. Tae-hyun hugs her before leaving her with the giggling kitchen staff, who obviously made all that food because they like Tae-hyun.

Secretary Min wheels her to Do-joon’s office, now a boardroom, and she walks from the threshold to her seat with difficulty. After cracking wise about her atrophied muscles, Yeo-jin puts a stop to the board members acting friendly with her by reminding them that no one there helped her while she was imprisoned for three years.

And because they didn’t, she adds with a rueful laugh, her muscles became so weak that she couldn’t even slit her own throat when she wanted to. All this is to remind them of their failures, but the vice chairman of the board reminds her that everyone present is here because they support her.

Still, that support is tentative for as long as President Go and Do-joon’s alliance stands, considering that Yeo-jin hasn’t been confirmed as chairwoman officially yet. They’re basically threatening her to be nice to them during her transitional period, or they won’t help her against her two greatest enemies.

It’s then that all their phones start buzzing with the news that President Go died in prison the night before. Yeo-jin can barely overhear them and smiles, more to herself than anybody. “What’s going on?” she asks, feigning innocence. “Did someone die last night?”

Ohhhhhh. That definitely gets everyone’s attention, and Yeo-jin seems awfully pleased with herself now that she holds all the cards. But she reveals her best one, as she shows them a silver USB before plugging it into her computer.

“It can’t be…” the Vice Chairman stutters. Yeo-jin flatly responds that her father gave it to her, before looking up at the board and smiling: “Should we see who will be the next President Go?”

Secretary Min pushes her empty wheelchair out of the room and closes the doors. Yeo-jin watches her symbol of weakness disappear behind the boardroom doors, her lips curled in a confident and dangerous smile.

 
COMMENTS

Innnteresting. This episode sure took a while to go somewhere, but I can honestly say I wasn’t expecting where we ended up, nor was I expecting it to throw everything I thought I knew about Yeo-jin into question. If we’re not just being led to a false conclusion with New Yeo-jin, this would certainly change everything—after all, no drama character undergoes a dramatic hair cut just for aesthetic appeal. (Fictional Hair Cheat Sheet: Curly and/or long hair = nice, straighter and/or shorter = naughty.)

The question then becomes whether Yeo-jin’s secretly been this person the whole time, or whether she’s just made that dramatic a shift while pulling one over on everyone else. I’d salute this show’s huevos rancheros if they decide to really commit to her being the crocodile she always claimed she was, because it’d open up so many avenues for her relationship with Tae-hyun. Is she using him? Is she just in this for revenge? And if so, whatever happened to the girl who confessed before God that she’d be more forgiving of her enemies?

Still, I’m not against a vengeful Yeo-jin, especially when it provides so much gray area for her as a character and for us as viewers. So far she’s been painted as a desperately maligned sleeping beauty just trying to evade her torturers, but it’d really be something if she’s now turning the tables in a way that wouldn’t make her too unlike her brother. Of course, this is all based on speculation as to whether she had that note sent to President Go, since she definitely seemed the opposite of surprised when the news went public.

In a way I’m glad it could’ve been her that sent that note and not Do-joon, since it’s no secret that I’ve grown weary of his antics lately. He’s just not smart enough to do any problem solving, so his bravado comes off as patently false and juvenile. He’s the opposite of subtle, and the whole funeral room showdown was honestly hard to swallow at some points, what with everyone announcing a new twist and turn in front of a dispassionate audience of men in positions of varying and bizarrely convenient levels of importance. I even laughed at the part where Detective Lee burst in to arrest President Go, which can be pretty much summed up as: “I’m arresting this man! Is that okay?” Police Chief: “Well, do you have evidence?” Detective Lee: “Yes!” Police Chief: “Okay then!”

Every problem was solved in that room with someone saying one thing, another person contradicting it, and some higher power just going along with it. Nothing really carried dramatic heft, even with Tae-hyun showing their marriage license around—because again, that’s apparently the only thing the police chief needed to decide that not only was Yeo-jin sane, but that her earlier complaints had merit. And yet the only crime Do-joon’s being held for is blackmail, when Yeo-jin now has the power for her voice to be heard if she cared about bringing him to justice. The legitimate and lawful way, anyway.

Instead it just seems like business as usual for the new chairwoman, and not so much for Tae-hyun. It’s fun to see him struggle under the awkwardness of being a chaebol’s husband, but for a show named after his alter ego, it’d be nice to see him have a bit more agency in the action unfolding. Then again, it might be a tall order to integrate an optimistic and well-meaning doctor into Yeo-jin’s crocodile pond—so for now, we wait.

 
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The way tae hyun adjusts to his new married life is cuteness overload , I kept smiling like a dork at the screen :'") glad yong pal showed us a different genre in this episode ?

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Lol. Cuteness overload is riiiiiiight! Lol.

I'd like to go to a smoothie bar and make an order like this...

"Umm, waiter... I'd like to order a cherry smoothie and two Joo Wons sitting on a counter, in 'cuteness overload' mode, pls? Gracias!" ;)

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hahaha, will be joining you!
+++ likes!

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Haha! @nonski. Certainly! Let's do that!

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Dear Heads,
What a nice opening naration, especially this:
"..doesn’t seem like the three years spent in a coma have dulled her business acumen as much as it’s sharpened her senses (and possibly also her teeth).."

More anticipation for different side of YJ

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The tables have really flipped. Will Yong Pal ever adjust to his new lifestyle and the dual nature of his wife?

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Will Yeo-Jin start to become more humanistic by having an humanistic doctor as a husband, or Yong Pal will become more terrible by marrying a crocodile?.

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... because I can see that sometimes Yong-Pal's idealistic streak can become a vulnerability, but a crocodile without a conscience can become a pretty dangerous beast (even for herself).

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+1,000 on this point!!

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This is the episode where every new character especially the staff in Hanshin Yeo Jin's household 'gets smitten' by Yong Pal's charm... and the day I didn't see in my dreams just yet, but glad it happened... hot-headed detective and 'our Yong Pal' all chummy... <3 Yong-Palla.... ^_____^

and oh, sleeping beauty's other (true?) face is intriguing!!! 'Crocodile-I'm ready to kill-mode' is definitely on!
Is she going to give her all just to get back on those people who've wronged her? We saw early signs of it, from her thoughts, confession and prayers... oh my, oh my... How will Yong Pal take all of this???

I can't see him get hurt and part of me just wants him to start his married life peacefully too~~~ a real wedding and wedding night scene maybe?? =(
Now, it all seems too far, for now. From hill kisses to icy boardrooms.. damn, the contrast!

This drama is unique and storytelling keeps me thinking and guessing... rethinking and reforming my own prejudices on how these characters are supposed to act. The show is now definitely taking us to the second half and more dark side of Yong Pal and no-longer-sleeping beauty's story!!!

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FGB, ohnodaisuki

I guess she is a crocodile after all... One can't grow up in a chaebol environment and not groomed into a predator of some sort. The show does give the impression that she was weak. A few things came to mind:

1. Is it Yeo Jin or her mom - the portrait in the mansion?

2. Her cold persona during her first discussion with TH - was it a facade adopted after the accident or was it the real Yeo Jin?

3. She seemed to dislike Chae young - was it because CY wanted TH or has it been her intention all along not to ally with CY? Would CY go back to DJ who will at least give her a proper position? I feel sorry for CY

4. Do all the people in the board know she was in an induced and prolonged coma by DJ? I thought that was a secret knowledge for a few: DJ, CY (and her dad), sec min, pres go.....

5. Her smile makes me uncomfortable - while I enjoy seeing her getting upper hand and ensuring justice - killing people is not exactly what I had in mind. I think it goes against everything that TH stands for.

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1) Yeo Jin's portrait.

2)Yeo Jin was always a crocodile. Correction, apex crocodile that had to be caged. They didn't imprison her because she was weak rather she was dangerous. "Remember who you are talking to" YJ to CY. This indicates that it's common knowledge that YJ wasn't the kindest of people pre coma.

3)Jealousy. Remember she watched irritably as TY and CY had a flirtatious discussion in the hospital. YJ must really love TY because she just stabbed CY in the back after CY aided her in reclaiming the throne.

4)Yes, assuming this is the inner circle of trust that runs the company. They likely feared DJ and went along with his plans.

5)Queen of crocodiles.

I love this drama. Honestly, I never taken YJ's crocodile comments seriously until she picked off one of the big bads with a smile. It's scary that you don't know she was this dangerous until it's too late. Good writing.

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I agree!

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My take on YJ kicking out CY: CY wanted out of this tied-marriage with the ex-Chairman anyway. YJ was doing a favour for CY in a very non-obvious way.

But like the spectacled-assistant said, this mansion leaves one too comfortable enough to want to leave. I suppose CY felt that at the bar, being unable to say that she was "the Chairman's wife" anymore.

The thrills of episode 1-8 is back.

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As far as "Yeojin was always a crocodile," I dunno, I have a hard time buying that such a hardened crocodile would try to kill herself because of her fiancee dying, and be so irrational and out of her mind that her dad couldn't even talk to her and he had to put her in a coma instead.

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@sea. Come to think of it, I also don't think YJ was always a crocodile per se. I think more along the lines of when situation presents itself for her to be a 'crocodile', she is more than capable to rise up to the challenge. I think of it more like an ability than a temperament.

So I think it's safe to assume she can switch it back-and-forth...:)

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Hi @Shuerei

In addition to the answers provided by @Way, these are my takes:

2) Do you mean when she first had a conversation with TH in her VVIP suite?
I don't see it as being cold or putting on a facade or being a crocodile for that matter. She was born a heiress to Hanshin, treated like a Princess and looked upon as the Queen. I am glad that for once, we get a chaebol heiress that acts like one. Note that it's a role YJ has been playing her entire life. She must have learned the ropes from Dad and another reason why Dad viewed her as worthy heiress . There is a certain manner and approach YJ must adopt to deal with those people. It's got nothing to do with kindness.

3) I agree with @Way that it's mainly jealousy. But she has never trusted CY fully. She believes that given the opportunity, CY would have taken her from DJ and used her the way DJ did. She even called CY's bluff and said that CY would have put her in a mental institution. Therefore she used CY before CY can use her. Ruthless but not unthinkable.

4) They won't know the details but suspected something was fishy. Only President Go had the guts to form a group to go up against DJ. Again, we saw that it was not for YJ's welfare either. Everything these people did was for their own interest.

5) I will write more about this in ep 14 recap. Basically, YJ and TH still share the same dream. It's just that the paths they have chosen are different. Yet, both make perfect sense.

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@ way, affie, blublusky, sea, SS

Thanks a lot for all your replies. Has there been a similar kdrama show like this? A revengeful heir/heiress?

By the way couldn't she alert CY to remove her things alone and in a more amicable manner instead of embarrassing her in front of everyone ......or like @blu said CY has been getting too comfortable and so it's best to make it sharp and quick? Still that's not something TH would do.

I dunno what is going thru her mind but I think past experience taught her that if her own brother could try to kill her *twice* I think she is treating everyone suspiciously except for TH.

@ sea....
I guess I felt the same way. Perhaps YJ was a dormant crocodile or all the while she was a tough taskmaster (which was not revealed on the show)? The show did mislead us on her personality prior to the "accident" esp. at the party with her brother. All sweet and demure...

@ SS will wait for your theories in ep 14 recap

Having seen YJ acted this way, now I can understand why DJ acted so mean and threatening all the time. The way the executives behaved are just like some biz and even "religious" folks I know - they are ruthless beneath the nice fatherly or motherly exterior. The moment, someone starts demanding for "justice", within a short period, they would kick out the good person and take everything away.

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I am not sure if there's another show about revengeful heiress but I think there's bound to similar themed ones. I get why revenge genre is always so appealing because there's this vindictive streak in all of us. Just a matter of degree. Sure, we don't carry out the action but how many people have never harbor thoughts of getting back at someone for some injustice? Only in dramas, can characters do the things we would like to but cannot do.

One main difference Yong Pal has with other dramas of revenge genre is that the revenge arc started late. If we count ep 13 as the start and assuming this goes to the end, then we only have 1/3 of the drama focused on this. I still don't get why people find this drama slow. Although this ep had zilch action and mainly dialogue, 60 minutes never passed faster. I was too engrossed in grasping everything the characters said and gasping
at some. This is one show which very little of what's said is redundant. I am very impressed with the screenplay.

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Wow. im just wow at this new development. i never thought YeoJin is this scary. haha, I love the way writer made her character so far. But one thing for sure, she is way smarter, more fierce and knows how to manipulate ppl, compared to her oppa. I actually hoped that Do Joon's character will be made smarter,and equally smart and fierce with his sister.

There are few things that open for speculation:
1) Why TH's room is at the another building, and being treated like Guests while he is legally YJ's husband.
2) YJ's actual feeling towards TH, i really hoped she is not using TH
3) Whether she had that note sent to President Go
4) Maybe CY will join hand with DJ, wondering how their collaboration would be. Can they beat up YJ?

This episode shows how our Yong Pal adapt with his new life. lol. As the one who are freely to go anywhere he wants and do whatever he wants, this seems to be quite shocked for him. haha. But still his cuteness are overload.

Emm, that might be some of us questioning the focus on this drama, that the focus should be on Yong Pal and his medical works. But for me, it would not only focusing TH as a Yong Pal only, but it will surrounds his daily and personal life, and one of interesting part of his personal life about his lover.

The key to watch this drama is we need to be patient, and everything is unexpected. We can expect this, but it will turn out differently. This is suspense of this drama, and this is their uniqueness :D

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aaa maybe it is about time for YP to be fully aware, that the one he love and married is someone who is not ordinary person, not only from chaebol family and a heiress, but she is the Queen of Crocodile. I'm not sure how TH had seen YJ before, maybe in his mind YJ is someone who needs love, and he never see the scary and fierce sight of his beloved man. YJ already knows herself very well, and the crocodile's blood in her body, she may seem to use TH in some ways, but she still love him. But it is common in chaebol's family i think, based on what i seen so far in Kdramas.

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Hi sera,

1) Why TH’s room is at the another building, and being treated like Guests while he is legally YJ’s husband.

I guess the main wing is only for family members. Or maybe a guest room strongly suggests their commitment to chastity before the real wedding. Clearing a family room in the main wing often indicates a couple is "separating" so a guest room would be more suitable to prevent any gossips.

2) YJ’s actual feeling towards TH, i really hoped she is not using TH

I think she does love him a lot and may now find herself even more dependent on this love knowing SH was not thoroughly sincere with her. I do hope that she will find a balance in her love and her quests.

3) Whether she had that note sent to President Go

I think she did.....expecting him to confess his crimes and may also predicting his suicide. That's the swiftest way to incapacitate the people who will likely hurt her and TH.

4) Maybe CY will join hand with DJ, wondering how their collaboration would be. Can they beat up YJ?

I thought so too. I feel very sorry for CY but I guess no one is supposed to bargain or make a deal with a crocodile. I dearly hope that DJ will do the right thing at the end. He started this whole mess and everyone just got roped in out of greed and fear.

I feel sorry for CY coz she is a likable character and kicking her out was pretty heartless. But it was also necessary for her to assert total control - there can't be two tigress on the same mountain.

5) I think YP will remain as the central character, the heart of the show. I admire the show for taking us through the depths of darkness in the human soul. She may be the matriarch with all the money and he is the "wife" but Sec Min is correct, TH has more power over her. If he left her, the guardianship would be reverted to DJ, and/or she will find it hard to find a sincere guy like TH to protect her.

I am confident the show is focusing on YongPal while developing the characters around him. The heart of the show is still YongPal. He listens without prejudice, he talks without any disdain, he cares without expectations, he sees without hatred...

Ultimately, its for Yeo Jin to discover through the eyes of TH that while there's lots of cruelty and evil in the world, there's also kindness and love.

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Shuerei, TQ for your reply.

I am agreed that Yong Pal is still the heart of the story, and this drama will unfold stories one by one ppl around him, and how his take for all that. Some ppl might have seen that his story is lost in its focus on Yong Pal but it is actually not. Maybe they need some more time to actually see the wheregoing of this drama :)

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Shuerei , I loveeeee this statement "I am confident the show is focusing on YongPal while developing the characters around him. The heart of the show is still YongPal. He listens without prejudice, he talks without any disdain, he cares without expectations, he sees without hatred…" this is so true.....:)

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I love this statement too! Wow. U put it so well @Shuerei. So true and epitomises Yong Pal. Yes!

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Okay, I officially un-ship this couple.
I have always felt that their relationship lacks chemistry, and Tae Hyun is moving too fast and strong with his crush on Yeo-Jin. There is always a problem, somewhere, in their fast-and-furious relationship. Now we are seeing it emerge. If Joo Won and Kim Tae Hee act on purpose to convey this unhealthy relationship (because it is more of an obsession from Tae Hyun), I can't admire them more. The fact that the script accelerates their relationship, rather than lets them come to each other slowly in episode 8,9 starts to make sense.
And congrats to Kim Tae Hee. She does hell of a good job creeping me off in this episode...Joo-Won amazing actor as always.

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I feel very happy (even if it feels more like "proud") when I remember Ms. Kim Tae Hee from 2004's Gumiho (barely watchable), to her very good My Princess and now reaching new levels (and more range) with this role.

Kudos for Ms. Kim!.

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I am proud with My Queen. :)

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Thanks for the correction!, I didn't the proper name of the Drama.

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Oh dear, i didnt corrected anything. :)

My Queen refers to Kim Tae Hee. hehe.,

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Tittle is "Forbidden Love" .....Tae Hee is amazing!

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Kim Tae Hee was quite a surprise here. She put up quite the solid performance amidst the solid cast.

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Liked this episode overall. I loved TH's fish-out-of-water behaviour at the sudden change in his status. Give me more of badass YJ!
I am guessing the writer has something planned for CY. I can't believe she was sidelined just like that by YJ. She was one character I've consistently liked, so I hope she doesn't go down the drain.

But, but, but. I have a BIG gripe about that whole showdown between TH, DJ, YJ and the commissioner. What kind of a misogynistic society is Korea that a woman's word holds no credit? The police commissioner who refused to entertain YJ's complaints, suddenly had no problem honouring the marriage certificate produced by TH. If I was YJ, I would have felt like an object being handed from DJ to TH.
Thats why I loved her going all evil at the end! This show has become interesting again.

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Another thing I like about this show, that it turns the whole chaebol dynamic around its head. She is the rich one, not he. She controls all the strings, while he is trying to adjust to a lifestyle beyond anything he has known. She is the one with a heart of gold buried somewhere deep, while he is overflowing with goodness (the practical kind, not the candy kind). And it will be he who changes her for the better.
If only this show had not meandered to Sound of Music valley in the middle...

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Hey, please finally realize that the "Sound of Music valley in the middle" was not a digression or a mistake---without that interlude, that exposition of the budding relationship between the two, there would never have been a chance in hell for YJ to be anything but the vengeful crocodile in the final analysis. It was necessary to show that YJ could possibly end up having a heart and that TH was probably the only one who would ever be able to touch her and bring her out of crocodile mode. Without that interlude the rest of the story would have been meaningless.

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Thank you! thank you!

I have been wanting to say this but couldn't express my thoughts adequately.

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Thanks for your response; I feel like I've been beating my head against a bloody brick wall to get my point across this whole time, so I truly appreciate your response to my comments!

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+1,000,0000 agreed! <3

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+10,000,000 likes to @Audrey for stating the obvious!!!

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I realize I hold some contrary opinions regarding those episodes. There has/had been endless discussion on it, so I don't want to start it again :)
Looking forward to the new dynamic between TH and YJ!

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The police commissioner was not "honoring" the marriage certificate produced by TH---he was respecting YJ for pulling a fast one on her brother and essentially de-fanging him and his attempted actions against her. He knew she was not just an object being handed off from DJ to TH, but that she had astutely handled the situation and therefore held the upper hand in the current situation. In his reasoning TH was just part of her plan and she was serving notice that the heir apparent was back and he had better listen up to the obvious change in the power base.

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I certainly did not see all that, where he saw the shift of power base. I think Heads did not see it too since she wrote "In the meantime, and for some reason now that she has a husband, the police chief agrees to honor her request to be protected by the law."

But other than that its all playing like a modern day sageuk. President Go drinking that soup was eerily similar to prisoners drinking poison in sageuks.

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Have to rescind most of my comment because I think I got confused with who was showing her adulation and sucking up; after re-watching this part I think the police commissioner was more anti-DJ than he was pro-YJ, although he did treat her respectfully. Guess I shouldn't try to watch episodes until they are 100% translated; either that or go ahead and learn Korean!

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The words of a person who was medically declared mentally unstable have no merit regardless of gender.

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@Way. OMG. Yes. A million times Yes.

Some viewers, and here's to hoping they recognise themselves, don't seem to understand that YJ being mentally unstable and suicidal needed to have a guardian to be in charge of legalities, including medical decision-making. A simple example is one someone is on life support for the longest time, next-of-kin gets to make the decision on whether to pull the plug.

A person of Yeo Jin's status would probably require some paperwork to put DJ as her half-brother, in next-of-kin position so he can legally make all decisions pertaining to her.

It's not paperwork, you can just ignore on the said mentally unstable patient's say-so until it is proven that said patient is currently stable and lucid. It's more legal than anything and it is actually very logical that Commissioner wanted to be sure everything was copacetic before picking a side.

It wasn't him suddenly agreeing because YJ 'has a husband', it was him tipping the scales in favour of who had the current overreaching legal right to Yeo Jin, whom hasn't still not gone through the proper psych evaluation process to determine her sanity. That's the universal law.

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In other words, if YJ had another close relative, apart from Do Joon, like an Aunt or an Uncle... she wouldn't necessarily need to have a 'husband' to protect her interests as a person considered to be 'mentally stable and suicidal'.

If YJ had other relatives, those persons could have also contested Do Joon's guardianship, and the relative with the more current legal right would have gotten 'custody (due to her mental instability)' of Yeo Jin, regardless of the fact that the person isn't her 'husband'...

Basically, these rights are only granted by law on the basis of marriage or consanguinity...

On a lighter note, if YJ were in a country were gay marriage was allowed, she could have married a woman and got her rights shifted to that person. Lol.

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Hi @Affie, it's great to read your take on this because of your legal background.

I have learnt not to jump into conclusions whenever I have doubts on whether this drama got their facts right. At another forum where this drama has very active discussion, we have doctors to comment on the medical cases presented in the drama. The consensus is that while the drama does take artistic liberties, they have done their research. Simply put, most of the medical parts are not all impossible but rare or stretching the limits.

For the legal issues like this and the marriage registration, if we don't dismiss them as illogical or impossible, we actually learn something new.

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@SS. Why thank you SS! Its always a delight to read your responses since you re really on point with this show...like me, lol. :)

Wow, I'd love to check out other forums with chincha doctors giving their takes on this show. I like to learn new stuff. This is one of the myriad reasons I love this show. ♥ ★

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thank you @Affie for shedding light on this matter.

sometimes we do take things at face value or up to the level that we only understand and judge what we see by that standards.

you should join another forum where the discussion is very active and fluid! we'd like to hear from you.

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I think this is more of a next-of-kin issue. As a "mentally unstable" patient, Yeo-jin was under the guardianship of her brother, who was her next of kin. Tae-hyun became her next of kin when he became her husband. Similarly, Tae-hyun's next of kin was his sister, but now it's Yeo-jin because they're married. I don't interpret it as misogynistic as I think that's the law in a lot of places.

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@ way, Elle
I agree.

1. Yong pal being the immediate next of kin would override DJ's responsibility/obligation/authority over YJ.

2. Having a husband who is also a doctor disputing the "insanity" claim also rendered DJ's claim null and void.

3. Regardless of whether YP signed any death cert, he appeared as a husband to protect her interests. Again, DJ 's argument is now baseless.

Based on matrimonial rights, and likely vexed with the contrary reports, the police commissioner decided to "honor" YJ's request for protection, probably now believing her accusations.

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Kim tae hee is really good in strongwilled characters . from being a princess-like weak crybaby in earlier episodes turns out to be an unstoppable witch on fire. i dont want to mess up with her. unusual but great.

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I agreed. She turned to be scarier than her character Jang Ok Jung. lol. i also dont want to mess up with her. haha :P

This type of female lead in Kdrama is unusual, but it is great to have a strongwilled female lead once in a while. :)

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true, not a cliche female lead. when she said shes a crocodile too in ep 8, i laughed and said maybe shes a baby croc. haha. now shes scarier than i think .

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I know right. She knew very well about her nature :)

Yeah i thought she just make jokes. lol. I just wondering whether TH already foreseen YJ'c character from before, but dont want to think so much about it. Or maybe he was clueless? This show really made my brain working lol

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writer nim is really good, kudos! unusual twists and turns. expect the unexpected.

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It has been an incredible role for her. I love her roles as a good natured character, but this one shows a range I didn't know she had.

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+1000! Kudos to Queen Kim Tae Hee! She chose well, and hope she makes a movie with Joo Won, maybe when he returns from military??

Huhuhu! Like you, I'm enjoying Joo Won, Kim Tae Hee and this show--especially it's giving us a whole new level of awesome!

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@jazz : Yeah, makes me awake that Kim Tae Hee is sure one of 'odd' actress that choose two project in a row potrait her as anti-heroine or at least unusual heroine's trait.

Her Jang Ok Jung still, is understandable and the ground where she stands is the most hideous place you ask for to live in, so her change is commendable and her only motive and all she asks for is her King. And we know her past she is one hard-working lady with honesty and pride put in her chest.

But this time, Yeo Jin is one of hella snake crocodile.
Her smirks, give me chills to the bone that I was regret to save her life in operation table, make her half brother Doo Joon as a very meek villain and not so scary after all.

This is just like saeguk drama, where the first king is a evil that needed to be thrown, just to make a seat for the second another evil king.

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i remember someone commented in previous episode if im not mistaken that this drama is a modern version of sageuk. Lol.

KTH's choice in her dramas esp this one and Jang Ok Jung surely is not a typical heroine's character.

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now I can only laugh to those who harshly criticized her from the previous episodes and told her she can't act! well duh! KTH is doing a stellar job in this drama alongside Joo Won (as always), Jo Hyun Jae and the rest of the cast!

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All of them deserve an award this year. :D

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I agree!! I applaud all of them! and of course the brilliant writer who can make us love and hate a character in a snap! lol! thank you writer-nim for not following the usual Kdrama cliche route!! bravo!!

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yeah, Kim tae hee's superb in this drama. Some knetz bashed her in earlier episodes. Now i do hope they can zip their mouth. No one will believe if they still criticize. if there is, just insecure for sure.

a stellar cast. Joo won, jo hyun jae and the rest ;.handsdown

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She's doing great with this new (or old resurfacing?) Yeojin! I love it!! She's so commanding! I cannot wait to see what else she plans to do to her enemies even if her plans are evil. It gives her character more depth.

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I just really want to know the name of that purple lip color Yeo Jin is wearing.

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me too! I keep rewatching and saying.. 'I need that 'rebel/queen of crocodile' lipstick in my life too! Perfect for meetings in the middle of shady self-serving people!

plus... Yeo Jin's lipstick and overall style are opposites when she's in 'mean business mode' compared to her 'wife mode.' All black and antagonist do when in front of Hanshin group; while sweet and blushing in front of Yong Pal.

She's got her mad rebellious game on for sure! I'M LOVING THIS~~ CAN'T WAIT HOW THIS STORY UNFOLDS, AND HOW IT WILL REVEAL THE TRUE NATURE OF OUR BELOVED CHARACTERS! <3 ^_^

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Count me in! I love that color on her lips! She looked so fierce!

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Go Yong Pal! I am enjoying how the story is developing and looking forward to their wedding - just what Yeo Jin really wants. But I hope by that time, So hyun will be well enough to come back to Korea and join the festivities. That would mean Tae Hyun will be taking care of both 'girls'.

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Thank you for the recap and comment! After watching 2 last eps alone last night, I really couldnt wait to read what others have to say about the show and how they enjoy it now.

Such a turn of event!

It feels like the world is flipped upside down, but who would have known that it would look similar nevertheless? That song whenever Yeo Jin is at work creeps me out. Makes me wonder if she really is no different than Do Joon.

I like the kitchen scene, though. It is the only time I feel at ease throughout the episode. I hope there is more, but I guess it can be quite a struggle from here onwards. There is a lot of layers and dimension in Yeo Jin apparently, than just being a woman in love or sleeping beauty. I am thankful that she is married to Tae Hyun. Not only that he is innately a good person, but he also has gangsters as friends. I dont know what will happen next, or what the hell is actually happening now (did Tae Hyun just rubbed a lamp with good genie inside, or evil genie?), but I have a hunch that it is going to be interesting and exciting (now that the genie is out!).

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Who knew that the romance would ever become the least boring element of this show? I first watched this episode without subtitles and it was as riveting as CSPAN. Thank goodness for the romance!

Sigh… They’ve got a visual storytelling problem. The visual storytelling in YP was quite high in the first 6 episodes, changed tone utterly for episodes 7 – 9, and then kind of wound down through episodes 10 -12 until it became virtually non-existent in episodes 13.

I think the problem might be the production chaos I’ve been reading about. Apparently the suits have been arguing over script lengths and other issues - all of which impacts writing schedules. It’s not a surprise that they’ve been really behind in shooting (Joo Won’s fatigue from consecutive all-night shoots has been noted. He’s beginning to look like a zombie, poor thing.) So, you can imagine that they’re rushing through scenes and the editor is getting the tape at the last minute as well. This makes for a real editing challenge.

One of the things I notice most is the failure of the edit to smooth the unevenness of tone between the two production teams. One of the teams does great closeups that give dynamism to people sitting around talking. Which they do a lot of in this show. (I am seriously missing the early fast pacing.) This team is pretty good. I’ll assume they’re the A team. The other team (B) never seems to frame their shots well and so we get panoramas of people endlessly standing around while someone talks. You could have heard a pin drop at that funeral. Honestly, was that a review? A marching band? Someone move for Heaven’s sake!! Anyway, a good edit could have helped this.

At least they’re getting better with integrating the mini CFs and product placement into the whole. They’re less obvious now. Still obvious. Just less so.

The first 6 episodes of this show were visually really great. Ever since then it feels like the producers have been messing with it. The show still has really good moments - but some really boring ones as well. An editor with adequate time to do their work could have fixed this. Considering how popular the show is now - imagine how much more so it would be if the cast got to rest and the crew had time to do everything well!

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Hi Susan, just want to know are you a Producer? Or working in this area?
If yes, can you share with us any of your projects. I have read your comments about the production in other dramas, so looking forward for your projects too.

aaa, before someone misunderstand, i am not being sarcastic here. lol

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:-) I am, but I won't tell you who I am. I'll get yelled at! When I have a project come out (they come out infrequently - production is a long business) I might just have to slip and promote it! We'll see....

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I see. Where are you from, if I may ask?

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:-) Hiding. Sorry!

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I'll answer production questions though...

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This is an interesting viewpoint. I would like to know more about this visual storytelling aspect. I confess I never understood how drama fans could watch a raw episode, especially if the series is dialogue heavy (something like Punch for example) and still enjoy it.
I liked the funeral scene, the tone and the music. Are you talking about the multiple cuts in that scene?

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Hi KDramaNewbie -

I'm talking about the framing.

Framing is what you see inside the camera frame. More or less, it's what you see when you watch the show. Is it close up on one actor's face? Are two actors in the frame ? Are three actors in the frame? These are typical close-up shots for dialogue.

Sometimes the location of the conversation is important. That's when you see a a medium range shot. Here you might see the actors with dialogue and the setting around them - TH and YJ in the church for example.

And then sometimes you need to get a lot into the shot. That's a long range shot. A lot of people - a big set - etc - etc. Or, maybe you just want to have the sense of the main character being along in a sea of people.... There's lots of reasons for this type of shot.

So, back to the YP funeral. There were a lot of shots where we saw that whole room. Allllll those people standing around. Why? How many times did you need to be reminded they where there? Was seeing a bunch of people aligned like soldiers at a review important to the plot? .....

Ding ding ding ... The bells just went off in the head of someone reading this. Yes! That's why we have that imagery - the loyal soldiers. Okay, sure... but then we have to talk about plot holes since those people all arrived unexpectedly. Because the visual storytelling is now in conflict with the plot. Setting that aside though, let's just focus on what's necessary for the visual storytelling.

How many times do you need to see a piece of imagery to know it's there? Once? Twice? Thrice? Maybe once at the beginning, once in the middle of a long sequence, and once at the end. Unless the action in the background is really interesting, after a couple of distance shots, you want closeups of action or dialogue. Especially if nothing happens in the background. Which was the case with the funeral scene. And yet they regularly showed the whole room.

This especially bothered me because it showed a problem with direction. Everyone stood around stiffly watching everyone else give long speeches. No sound after something shocking. Really? None of those politicians would have said something to an aid? Let out a gasp? Hmmmmmed? People standing around make noise. Then, there's the security guards who only needed a push to be gotten out of the way. No one walked over for any of the conversations. Etc etc etc. And edit that focused on tighter shots could have compensated for the problems with direction.

Why did they have problems with direction? My guess is not enough time to plan better. Also, extras aren't actors for the most part. If you need them to do something, it has to be something they find easy.

Contrast the funeral scenes to the Yong Pal as undercover mob doctor scenes. These are much stronger. Take the most recent warehouse scene. Lots of people in the...

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Contrast the funeral scenes to the Yong Pal as undercover mob doctor scenes. These are much stronger. Take the most recent warehouse scene. Lots of people in the background, but staged nicely, moving around, making some noises, etc. It felt real - not so staged. There were lots of medium range shots there - you saw what YP was doing and caught glimpses of the people and action in the background. There was also a distance shot when he first came in I believe that set the scene. I don't think there were any closeups - maybe there were, but I don't remember any - and that makes sense because there was more action than dialogue.

Anyway - try watching the funeral scene without reading the subtitles. Try. :-) Because it's long and boring visually. And let me know what you think after....

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So I saw it again with subs off. I see your point that all these important folks are just standing like trees. But it could also be that they are riveted by the drama playing out in front of them. It could have been done better though. YJ had some strange expressions there which I had not noticed before. And poor Joo Won really needs some sleep!

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@KDramaNewbie

Watching without subtitles is such a great way to really notice all the other pieces. Normally we can't hear sound without recognizing dialogue - but if Korean isn't your first language, then you can just listen for cadence and not meaning. All of a sudden the acting is obvious.

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Whoa! Two big thumbs up for the very patient and detailed explanation! (I don't know how to insert emoticons here)
I'll come back and give my thoughts on the funeral scene but I just had to say thanks :) Its nice bumping into interesting people @Dramabeans

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Thank you for the explanation, Susan. Perhaps the difference in shots reflects the editor's contrast of the 2 lifestyles. YP's more "human" and YJ's more robotic lifestyle. While mobsters fight it out to live in YP's world, YJ's minions are afraid to let out expressions and move before being told by the biggest reigning crocodile of them all.
Kudos to the hardworking team!

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"Perhaps the difference in shots reflects the editor’s contrast of the 2 lifestyles."

That's an interesting thought. I don't think it came off well, but this could be the reasoning behind why they did it that way.

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Susan, I've had inklings that half of the issues that Yong Pal has are production issues i.e. it's a matter of execution rather than writing (though the latter has its share of problems). I think complaints about pacing, and a sense that the show is clunky and lacks finesse especially of late, wouldn't be as bad if editing was better. It really is a shame that there's simply not enough time for everyone to do their best. Thank you for your comments!

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Hi DDee -

I think that the writing has had plenty of issues, but I don't think it's likely the writer's fault. My guess is that the first 6 episodes laid out the writer's vision. It was good! Granted, there was almost no character development in those episodes, but with a plot-driven piece character development can actually distract from the action.

When the tone and direction of the show changed in episode 7, it began to feel like a different show. My guess is that this marks the point of production interference with the script. Script changes (in the sense of the overall structure) don't just affect dialogue. They also upend plans for visual storytelling, casting (Cynthia, Nurse Hwang), the relative importance of various characters ( the sister, the father, the nurses, doctors, and interns at the hospital, the gangsters, etc etc), sets, locations, etc. Everyone in the crew has to react to the changes. That's a lot of last minute work. So, what was once tight writing and production-wise is now a bit of a free for all.

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I agree. I couldn't possibly know all the inside information but my semi-trained eye has spotted enormous mistakes made by the production designer and/or the PD and, at some point, very, VERY sloppy editing. On the other hand, the writer's first project in OCN was so promising; what happened to him? Considering the whole crew, I had faith in him and his skillful writing right from the beginning. But something went wrong here and it's so obvious. If this production were in a cable channel, which elements would have been removed and which ones would have been emphasised according to your expertise? What about episodes 7 to 10? Would they have been removed, stripped down or somehow reversed?

The funeral scene could have had quite an impact if it were staged and filmed more theatrical and less cast were included...well, just throwing in my two cents' worth.

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At one point I tried to figure out what was the original intention and what they changed. It really seems like a constant flux show. It's zigzagging all over the place without a lot of clarity. There are still some really good moments. The acting is beginning to flag though. I think the cast looks tired. The best moments are now the minor background characters. They seem to be trying to make the most of their 15 seconds of screen time. I enjoyed the guard during TH's exam of the housekeeper. Well done. Immediate connection to him as a character.

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How about when he was chasing after the dog? The man is so miserable working for the filthy rich that he tries hard to find moments of happiness in this unhealthy environment. I felt sorry for the poor guard, too...

So, no one can see the initial genre to this one. Was it a noir-crime drama or a revenge one? Was the romance the core or the canvas here or was it a revenge-driven drama? I don't actually care for the genre per se but I have noticed that it's somehow an important issue in k-ent in terms of budget, cast and payments... Thanks for the answer, Susan(and all the pretty colours tagged with your name!).

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So many actors in small parts have been able to make hay with their parts - all 5 nurses, the bodyguard, the housekeeper, the loan shark, the mobsters... very well done!

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Oh, and about the genres. I've been counting:

Action, thriller, romance, melo, comedy, makjang, horror, fantasy, crime.... plus a couple of CFs thrown in for good measure! :-)

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Ah...the 2 happy love birds...sweet..no wonder the kitchen staffs are swooning over with Taehyun.

Is it just me or does anyone find the personal bodyguard to Taehyun is dorky funny dude? I have a feeling he's going to provide more laughters since he's around Taehyun. Taehyun is now treated 'Sir' rather than just doctor Ki,

And is Do Joon going to die based from the latest episode?

Our Good doctor is definitely having a hard time accepting the fact he's married an heiress who is filled with vengeance and it's his destiny that he's meant to see what's happening around him.

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Who else things that this drama is just turned it up a notch! YJ going all Jekyll and Hyde on us. Poor TH when finds out who he really married....
Will they even stay together by the end of the drama? I think that maybe if YJ got pregnant and she and TH had a baby together she might just might to from this path of vengeance that will surely lead to self destruction in the end. I want a happy ending writers!

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Yeah, that whole funeral scene...its purpose was to get Do Joon to say something stupid and thereby implicate himself, which really isn't so difficult, is it? That was all that had to happen. They just took a really overly dramatic approach to it, and ultimately it ended up a little anticlimactic. :)

On the other hand, it accomplishes a couple of things too. 1) Getting them married and 2) getting the first branch of Hanshin on her side with her apology to the Electric workers. Both things that will start the next phase of the story, so it works.

And yeah, that flashback in the car was very clumsily inserted. I can buy that as her thoughts, but it came across awkwardly. Maybe if they had cut back to her in the car once or twice in there (with flashback audio still playing)...as it is, it's strange. But it also serves to enumerate those people she feels like she needs to take down: Do Joon, Nurse Hwang (already taken care of!), the hospital director (another one!) and Chief Lee. Thinking about it, that was probably the purpose. The execution could have been smoother.

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This show is not what it said it was going to be or promoted itself as in all the teasers. Maybe some DB users don't know this, but there were rumors spreading amongst Korean netizens that this show was plagiarizing a webtoon called City Conquest, and right after news of that came out, the show took a sharp turn, and I'm wondering if it's because the writer realized she was caught or something and decided to write it on her own, which has made it the mess it is today. I like the whole grey area Yeo Jin thing we've got going, but the story was originally supposed to be about Yong Pal, his underground life, and this woman in a coma that he falls in love with on the job. If I can be honest, I thought it was going to be like a medical version of Healer, but instead it feels more like a medical version of Mask (which I basically lost interest in towards the end, so...). I'm basically annoyed because I feel like there was a lot of false advertising for this show, and I don't think I'm the only one who was fooled. I honestly don't think Kim Tae Hee and Joo Won knew what they were getting into either (since it's live shoot, scripts and changes to the show can be made on the spot). Basically I feel badly for the main cast for being fooled, and I'm watching it because frankly, I like Joo Won that much. Am I the only one feeling this way? I do like this whole showing Yeo Jin's true colors, although she did tell Joo Won ahead of time that she was also a crocodile. I'm going to enjoy seeing them at opposite sides of the spectrum, and hopefully, maybe he'll take down her new empire from the inside out (let's be real, there isn't much story left to tell other then this arc anyway).

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Well I watch it because of Joowon too. If it is another lead, I won't watch Yong-Pal. But I think they have an excellent cast. As for the plot, I am not psyched about it, but it is all fine. I would have preferred the story to focus on Yong-Pal, rather than Yeo Jin, because I like more the story of a man having to pay off his debts and willing to do anything for money.

But i think the producers did say in the beginning that after episode 4, Yong Pal will shift its focus from Tae Hyun's life to Yeo Jin. The first four episodes are to tell TH's background.

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I'm pretty sure melodrama was always the plan (or at least a major component). Sorry to break it to you. :)

As for the plagiarism accusation, it was mostly based on similarities to a couple of very specific scenes, as I understood it. There was not much similar in the story as a whole, so I don't think that has anything to do with any perceived change in story direction. But I could be wrong. And writer is "he", not "she". Not that it matters.

As far as feeling misled based on promotional materials, I think this may be a problem felt more by international fans. If you were just following casually, and only watched one of the teasers (the action-y one) and saw the poster or something, I can see how you might feel misled. However, the character descriptions were quite clear. Those were not as widely publicized (or translated) for the international audience, I think. Maybe that's where the problem lies.

I don't feel misled at all. I was under the impression that we were getting a mix of action, melo, medical, and who knows what else, and that seems to be what we got, right? For better or worse. :) As I recall the sum total of the teasers (there were 3? 4? of them) implied as much anyway. I remember wondering if the show really was going to be this crazy mix of genres, and sure enough, that's what it is.

For the record, I do hope we get back to a little more Yong Pal-centric stuff by the end. We switch back and forth between him and Yeo Jin as the focus, but I hope that his story isn't over yet. And no, I'm not just talking about sick sister (she can stay in the US for all I care - alive, of course, but not taking up too much more time in the story). I want more doctoring hijinks.

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I get that viewers has issues with this show - mainly the insertion of romance and dreamland fantasy landscape in ep 7 to 9 before whipping back into the tone set in the earlier episodes. It has however nothing to do with the rumors of extension and much less the rumor of plagiarism.

First the plagiarism, that rumor has been squashed in Korea and the Koreans are all too familiar with attempts like this to bring down highly rated dramas. It happens so often that no one takes them seriously. knetizens' comments are full of the crazy, they are a laughing stock in Korea too. Anyway, I saw the parts where scenes were supposedly stolen by Yong Pal but they were pretty laughable. Plagiarism is a serious issue, I just hope that jokers like this stop their nonsense so that when a real act of plagiarism happens, it won't be brushed off or ignored.

As far as I know, extension was only decided very late in the game, far too late if you ask me. So this means that ep 7 to 9 weren't inserted due to the extension. To think that this drama got so much flak for putting in filler and unnecessary romance when it wasn't even done for the extension in the first place.

Well, to those who didn't like those episodes, they might laugh more at this. If drama didn't do those for extensions, then doesn't it make drama look even worse? I beg to differ.

I can totally see why the story needed the transition and development to make sense. Contrary to what’s said about episodes 7 to 9, I think it’s perfectly logical and if it didn’t happened, I would never have bought in why Tae Hyun and Yeo Jin needed to brave such dangers for each other.

One thing I will admit to is the result was not very satisfactory. It’s like it all made sense in my head but my heart felt different.
I didn’t think the romance was rushed and it was actually more realistic than other kdrama romances. Joo Won and Kim Tae Hee had great chemistry. So what’s the gripe? If I can take those episodes and view them separately or take the romance bits and bask in the loveliness, I would say it’s quite awesome. I think the problem was that it didn’t feel as seamless as I would like it to be. Think of taking an imaginary amusement park ride where it’s absolutely fun and heart stopping. Then the ride enters into a segment filled with beautiful breath taking scenery before turning back to the thrilling part. The parts on its own are equally enjoyable but put together, I am not so sure.

In a genre like this where we have a hero and a heroine who’s a damsel in distress, the heroines in those stories don’t face fatal threat in the beginning or middle of the plot. Usually, the danger builds up and the OTP gets to build their romance as they rely more and more on each other.

In Yong Pal, this could not have happened. In ep 6, Yeo Jin was nearly killed. In ep 8, she had to make a crucial decision to go with Tae Hyun or seek alliance with President Go. Tae Hyun had to be clear with his...

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Tae Hyun had to be clear with his feelings because it makes no sense for him to risk his life if he doesn’t love her. And he had to know if she’s on his side. So given this necessary development, how could the writer bring forth a coherent story and one that sits better in terms of pacing and tone? I have no answer.

Coming back to the issue of promotional trailers, when did we take them for anything more than teasers? If you read the synopsis on the official SBS website, it would give you a lot more about the drama. Even the English blogs and drama websites have the words "melodrama, medical and romance" none of which I would disagree on.

Are you a Joo Won fan? His fans are delighted over this drama. Yong Pal has ratings many can only dream of and Joo Won has been receiving nothing but rave reviews. Not just from fans and viewers but industry people. KTH also chose the right comeback project and is showing people that she has the acting chops.

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absolutely! I think the main reason why others can't connect and keep on criticizing this drama is because it is unique and unusual from the other Kdramas that they are used to! as for me I'd rather have a fast paced romance than having two leads running around the circle and bicker to no end and then confess their love at the near end of the drama, the usual boring drama cliche! I applaud the writer for straying into that and giving us something refreshing! sure, the drama has flaws, but come on which drama hasn't?? lower our brain to 20% they say? well hey, if we can lower our brain to 50% from a drama that features a 300yr old alien falling in love with a human and give some logical explanation about it then why can't we not open our logic into this? I mean Yong pal is more realistic than the other dramas we already encountered right? so as for me I love this drama not only because I love Joo won but because this drama is refreshing and surprises me to no end. Since episode 1-14, this drama was able to deliver and never disappointed me!

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Thank you so much for what you wrote; I've been saying for what seems like forever, that the quieter interlude was necessary for both character and plot development---and now I just feel a big fat "duh" for the people who didn't "get" that concept. This show is innovative in many ways---really, would you actually expect Joo Won to sign onto a predictable melo or action drama? That is not his track record. Expect the unexpected. And, get this, "Yong Pal" is not done--- this is not a melo or a doctor drama or just a romance---this is a new hybrid and Yong Pal is the key. Who is Yong Pal? He is not a quack---he is a "crusader".

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I could not agree more with your analysis. Not everyone will like this drama. It is basically not everyone cup of tea. This drama is not typical medical drama, and hospital politics. This also not a typical revenge drama. However, besides the unique concept, they still able to bring a high rating.

I can understand if there are some frustrations, for e.g some may want to see Yong Pal's surgery activities through out the drama, and do not expect the plot twisted to be like this. But for me, i am welcoming for any new drama concept, and to be honest, i kinda afraid at the beginning if the focus of the drama mostly on Yong Pal and all his underground surgeries and house calls.It is one of interesting factor for this drama, but it is great for a twist like this.

After watching epi 14, i wish not to give any spoiler, but i hope YeoJin is not lost in her middle of revenge. Here, our TaeHyun will need to open YJ's heart on how she should actually dealing with her revenge. YJ is

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@SS. Oh SS, why are thou so awesome in your escriture! Lol. :) I love everything you wrote.

It's funny... some people are convinced this show is dumb in its execution. While I'll agree there have been some hiccups, I still think it's a really great show. I knew the show would focus on KTH's revenge arc and not just Yong Pal's moonlighting medical jobs before this show aired from reading it right here on this site! How can the cast be fooled when even I wasn't, lol.

Anyway, I'm just convinced you can't please everyone. From cries of YJ made a dumb move to give up the One USB to why does she think getting married will solve anything to she's just going to be a damsel in distress and Tae Hyun is gonna swoop in to save the day...

if some viewers stopped to consider WHY they were thinking that way, they'd realise that it's cuz that's the same kdrama trope we get served over and over so it's become an expectation... And that's precisely why this drama is unique.

A couple of other dramas can join it in unique-dom, but shouldn't be a reason to write-off it's uniqueness.

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Thank you :D

In several forums and drama sites, many people were aghast that Yeo Jin gave the One USB(they should patent this, ha!) to Secretary Min and many also wondered about the issue of legal guardianship. The difference is that they wait for the show to explain itself or find out more about how the law works instead of jumping into conclusions.

About uniqueness, I agree with you that this show certainly does things differently and you never know what to expect. But there will be people who disagree on this and it's okay. I am inspired to write unique drama about how a human and an alien fall in love. What? You mean it's been done? Okay, how about two aliens who fall in love? But I promise to add in all the necessary tropes.

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thanks for all your POV @SS @Affie @june96 @Audrey @sera and to all who believe that YP is giving us an excellent story and good acting. i agree with you on all accounts. this is exactly what i had been telling myself... if you like your drama, watch it and rave about it. but hen if you have some issues about it, don't like it, by all means, stop nitpicking, drop it and keep quiet.

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No, you're not the only one feeling this way. :-) A lot of Beanies dropped the show during episodes 7 - 9. Joo Won has been great though, no? He's always always a pleasure to watch.

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I would applaud this drama if they made Yeo Jin the main villain and Yong Pal had to stop her. It will be both cutting edge story telling and nostalgic since Kim Tae Hee used to play villain roles early in her career. This Han Shin Group seems more like a mafia organization than a legit business. Enemies get killed off like it's standard fare. lol

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I like that idea! I'd love to see an unexpected twist!

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I like that idea too! I think the show is gonna go there. Definitely. But then the real test would be would Tae Hyun be able to forgive her! It would a test for the ages... forgiving and marrying a cold-blooded murderess. Aish! Lol.

she would be an awesome villian though! Then Tae Hyun would be her only weakness. What an Achilles heel it would be!

I'm all for this revenge arc! YJ, the avengeress, really scared me... and I haven't been this scared of a kdrama heroine in ages! I actually want her to kill everyone and not trust the justice system since they could also double-cross her but ONLY if they come after her and Tae Hyun again. A pre-emptive strike is emotionally and vengefully logical but... I dunno... i want it to be more justified somehow.

I feel like somehow there has to be some straw that breaks the camel's... oops... crocodile's back, teehee! Maybe, Tae Hyun getting captured and injured or So Hyun being aggressively threatened or another threat on YJ's life... then YJ can bring down the house! Yaassss!

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i agree..she is really annoying in stairway to heaven drama :D

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That would be interesting twist. I love it when KTH plays a sweet and good character, but she performed really well as a villain. Look at Stairway to Heaven, even her acting was not as good as now, but she nailed it and ppl still hate her for her character in that drama until today.

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That's a fantastic plot twist for OCN! But, unfortunately, this is SBS...
Well, every multinational enterprise, no matter how glamorous it may look from the outside, does act like an organised crime group at some(?) point: "suicides", industrial espionage, briberies, political connections, lobbying and many, many other "dynamic corporate activities" take place in those successful organisations ... The "good old" Mafia has been replaced by white collar clerks nowadays.

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I keep waiting for KTH to show her half smirk and calculative-cold stare like she did in JOJ, and voila! I finally see it in this episode. You go girl.. Revenge, but don't go too far. Don't be as dark as DJ, please. Smile and stare a bar colder, and she'll chilled my spin like LYW did in EoG.

Love this ep. Although the inheritance/company ownership politics and boards meetings are not so well-deeply explored, it is still good.

[Yeah, Empire of Gold, all blames lies on your doorstep for setting the bar so high for my expectation on inheritance-revenge drama..]

As always, thanks for the recap, Heads~!

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I barely meet ppl who watched Empire of Gold, glad that i found you :D

I'm thinking to spend my weekend to watch Midas. Actually i love a drama relating to company matters esp politics in the company. Empire of Gold is one of the high-level drama, and i started to love LYW from that drama.

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Hi Sera.. if you survive and love EoG, then you'll be in fun ride with Midas. Me and friends at Soompi have a blast watching EoG back in 2013, and joked around about studying the proper-near-to-real business acquisition and family politics on inheritance war where every players remorselessly swift allegiance every now and then. I'm a big fan of LYW myself, I watched any of her drama including Horse Doctor.. ^^

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@sera & Gaeina Lee :

Hi chingu! I'm glad there's someone out there talking about Midas! It was one of really memorable drama for me, very 'not' forgettable for sure.

The chaebol family which is the portrait centre of main story involving, is one of hella truly chaebol indeed. The show well put together to show their richness, the un-equality aura they have compare to commoners/peasants, the depth of their desire and complexity as one of biggest economy power in Korea. So u have ground,motive, and a drawn hero to be rooted for.

Sure you won't take them lightly. I haven't watched EOG tho :(

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If they went full on later in the story where she became so twisted YP had to stop her oooohhhh boy what a sight to see!
This is such a nice reversal of roles, I hope they handle it well. Yet at the same time I don't want them to dumb down YP into being a puppet too much, I miss his action scenes.

KTH's makeup at the end was so on point! Dayum girl can rock those red lips.

Thanks for the recap!

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Is it just me or every time an odd numbered episode recap comes up, I need the next to discuss it properly.

This writer is just brilliant, almost everything is so intricately woven with so many details that you would miss if you blink an eye. The Yeo Jin we see now may look strange and new but we have been given insights to her character and thoughts way earlier. Now that things are unfolding, it all makes sense. Can't discuss this point further without spoiling for ep 14.

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I am so looking forward to your comments on episode 14! And thank you so much Dramabeans for being such a wonderful forum for our dramas: I value so much your recaps and comments and I love the interactions from the beanut gallery!

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Lets meet again in episode 14 recaps guys :)

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Yes, ep 14 is even better :D

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oh you're being modest @SS, episode 14 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay much better. be ready guys for episode 14

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Wow, the ratings for this show have really spiked in Korea. I haven't seen a show with such high ratings in a long time. I wonder what made this show different to get the ratings.

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The two faces of Yeojin... From a lovable wife to taehyun then next shes the queen crocodile at its finest ready to eat her enemies alive. kimtaehee's doing a good job in this drama. The way she transforms back to back...
Taehyun really loves her. I hope she realizes not to go too far in her revenge before its too late. Their chemistry is daebak! Joowon and Jo hyun Jae ... great acting too.
Before YP ends, i wish the Han siblings can bury their painful past and will reconcile.

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"He’s comforted at least by hearing the chief of security putting in a call to So-hyun’s caretakers in the States, grinning at the mere thought of revenge."

Isn't it that the Chief of Security was now working for Yeo Jin? That call was to put a protection for So Hyun and not to harm her? Or did I misunderstood that scene?

And I think this episode has answered the concerns of others in the previous episode like why did Yeo Jin entrust the "one usb" to Secretary just like that; and whether Yeo Jin only planned to have Tae Hyun save her from Do Joon. Yeo Jin definitely already had a plan even before seeing her dad's video. The plan was just strengthened further with the help of dad's will and usb.

I think Yeo Jin was always this scary crocodile. She's acting like the heiress that she truly is. I am hoping that she would not follow Do Joon's crazy killing spree though and that that girl in the church who promised she'll try to forgive her enemies would be 'resurrected' by Tae Hyun eventually.

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Haha...I just wrote the same comment about the Chief of Security. I understood it the same way you did. And ep 14 will prove that we are right, at least where Chief's alliance is. Still without the benefit of ep 14, I had this interpretation when I watched ep 13.

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There's something odd. I think the killings were set up by DJ. We have never seen YJ ordered to kill Chief lee, Dj , Pres. Go and that Scarface guy. Maybe a setup to make it look like Yj as a murderer. There's something going on with Dj and that Prosecutor General. Have you noticed they buried alive that scar face guy, and tried to kill chief lee? These two are the witnesses. I think Pres. Go is still not dead yet.
Maybe in the end Chief Min is still loyal with DJ.

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Chief Min is a character full of mystery. I still cant figure out which side he is, he seems to be on YJ's side, but there are times he is still on DJ's side.

It can be that YJ already aware the Chief Min's character but keeps him on her side as a trap to finish off Chief Min and all bad side. I dont know but this is my take.

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what's the issue with the scar face guy? I don't think YJ is aware of that guy's existence.
They buried him alive. I hope Do chul make it on time and save that guy.. seriously, who's the one behind all the killings?
I still don't believe it's YJ..no matter she wanted to..

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Maybe there will another twist on this drama, for now we have seen how scary YJ is and has a doubt whether she is actually order the killing. I have a feeling that Chief Min maybe has his own agenda that we cannot foresee yet.

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Th should have trusted his wife then. Trust is important for a married couple. That Chief min he's mysterious. The way he laughs when YJ reveals him about the usb.
What do you think will happen to YJ and the hanshin group if that acct book will be known to public?
I just hope that there is really no slush fund /secret account book.
I think do joon and that prosecutor general is planning something.

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what's the issue with the scar face guy? I don't think YJ is aware of that guy's existence.
They buried him alive. I hope Do chul make it on time and save that guy.. seriously, who's the one behind all the killings?
I still don't believe it's YJ..no matter how she wanted to..

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Yeo Jin knew that Tae Hyun was a good person, so she use him to get back in the driver seat. I think she never loved Tae Hyun before, so that's why the romance was kinda fast in episode 7-9. Just my two cents.

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I think so too. I don't believe she is as innocent as she's been portrayed so far. What if she's actually more of a monster than Do Joon and she's just been using Yong Pal all this time to regain her full power. She kinda reminds me of that guy in Healer who's sweet to his wife and acts all innocent but is dirty as they get.

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Ahh, I'm not alone in thinking this way.
But hey, in dramaland, love will conquer everything: baddies, meanies, amnesiac and even deadly diseases. So maybe TH love will win her over, and change her to good. DJ's dark soul will saved by his wife, and everyone will have their happy ending. Oh, my wandering over optimist mind.. *LOL*

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" He’s comforted at least by hearing the chief of security putting in a call to So-hyun’s caretakers in the States, grinning at the mere thought of revenge."

I think you got it wrong. Do Joon was giving a rather sad grin or laugh. Chief of security has already defected to Yeo Jin. There was no one on DJ's side at the funeral except President Go. My guess is that Secretary Min told him to place So Hyun under extra protection after DJ said out loud his threat to harm her. Or Chief of Security could have been listening to all that's happening and took his own initiative.

I think I said this before, Tae Hyun has done everything he can to protect his sister. Some viewers got annoyed at him because it seems like he's only paying attention to Yeo Jin now and forgotten about his sister in the States.
Does anyone think Tae Hyun could have protected his sister by rushing to her side or does he have power to send professional bodyguards to protect her? He almost got killed by Scarface so he can hardly protect himself. Neither does he have the power to protect So Hyun.

The only way So Hyun can be absolutely safe is to remove Do Joon from power and put Yeo Jin there. As long as it's Do Joon calling the shots. So Hyun will always be used to blackmail TH.

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I really really love your perspective of this drama because you're always on point! This drama is really easy to understand if you analyze the situation correctly and pay attention to every single details presented! So I really don't get the confusions and harsh criticisms from the others!! I think the problem is, some people immediately jump into conclusion even before it happened! Just like when YJ gave that One USB to the secretary, they immediately concluded that that was a stupid move without even analyzing the situation! If you're really watching YP you'll know that YJ is not that stupid and there may be a reason why she did it. By now you should already know that every unanswered questions from the previous episodes will definitely be answered next!..... It's just that some people are impatient and just based their opinions to the general public's harsh criticisms!

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Plus one more thing, if YJ is that stupid, will her father made her an heiress and more than that, will her brother made her coma for 3 years if she is plainly stupid? They didnt make her sleep for no reason. One of the clear reason is she is dangerous for them, and she is too smart and know ways to handle business and politics in the company.

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Do you believe that YJ was all behind the killing of Pres. Go, the scar face guy, and now chief lee and Do Joon?

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Honestly I am confused. She seems to be satisfied with their death, but it crossed my mind that she will not to the extent to kill ppl, and Chief Min is the one behind all the killing. She has the intention to kill all her enemies, but the question is whether she is actually gave the order to Chief Min to kill them? I think there are still many other things from her late father's will are yet to be disclosed to us.

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there's still things from her late father's will? and what is that?
Do you believe Pres. Go is dead?

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This is only my presumption that there are some things left from his father, and i cant say if i believe Pre Go is dead or not. While watching this drama, i learnt not to assume so much on the plot, and expect the unexpected.

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absolutely! plus they are questioning the revenge thing. Didn't YJ said before on the first episode that she will kill everybody that are responsible for her sufferings? so you see the revenge plot is inevitable! Would they expect YJ to forgive and forget her enemies immediately after suffering for 3 years? well that would be a kdrama cliche! But I agree that the killings is a no no! so that is where TH will enter, to be her savior like what I think Yong pal really signifies. To save people not only in medical aspects! If ep 7,8 & 9 hadn't happened it will be completely unrealistic for TH to desperately save YJ and for YJ to have TH as the only one who can convince her!

I also believe that her love for TH is real! Look at how her demeanor shifted from being scary and ruthless to being bubbly and loving whenever she's with TH! In ep 14 there are more of that but I don't wanna spoil everything! and KTH definitely scare the hell out of me whenever she's on a Queen of crocodile mode!

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I could not blame the viewers on their take in this drama. Maybe some of us are not ready to see the way YJ get her revenge, which is not in usual and typically done by most of heroine kdramas. I am agreed with you, how can we expect YJ to forgive and forget her enemies immediately after suffering for 3 years, right?

haha, i also got scared when her Queen of Crocodile's mode is on. lol

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@ SS, Helen, Sera

1) Yes, all along the chief of security is a subordinate of Sec. Min. He does not report directly to DJ as depicted in earlier episodes. DJ is unlikely to micro manage because he has to limit his exposure. Otherwise, the whole world will pin all the crimes upon his shoulder. And in most cases a chaebol will have very competent secretary to execute their orders and plans. The moment the captain, Sec Min defected to YJ's all the underlings, staff will follow the captain who reports to the commander who is YJ.

2) I agree that TH never neglected his sister to romance YJ. When he took YJ away the sister was having her dialysis in the normal ward or recuperating at home in preparation for the US trip. It was the crafty DJ who removed her to 12th floor to threaten TH while he was on "leave". Also, TH had to rely on SS's release of money to the US hospital prior to sending her off. Any premature move would alert DJ that something is wrong.

3) I am with you all in believing that YJ loved TH. It is clearly established that she does think so. It may appear she is using him but it's far more likely that she is protecting him. Whether she is able to sustain that love is another issue. I know it's hard to reconcile a cold and warm YJ. But as DJ has clarified to CY that he loved her, it's the same with YJ. They can love people and they can be tough to their "enemies". Love is a feeling but it is also a choice. Pres Go is a ruthless person with no qualms in killing people but the moment his son was threatened, he willingly sacrificed himself. That's love. I have seen people who are unkind to others but they loved their children. I don't respect them but I can't deny they loved their children

4) @ Shirayukihime

It's interesting that you mentioned Pres. Go may not be dead yet. With quick medical help, he may survive with the police pulling a yong-pal trick. The note was a threat indeed but it could be interpreted in many ways.

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Dear Shuerei, the idea that "love is a decision" is one that can change your life forever to the better. Please internalize it wisely, since it is the seed to a wonderful tree.

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I'm a little scared with the development of the plot this drama, which I thought much more about YJ instead Yongpal

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Seeing Yong-Pal adjust to Sir Husband & his new bodyguard — funny & cute.
Seeing Yeo Jin in an eye for an eye (and a tooth for a tooth) mode — well worth it — just wow.

Thank you writer Jang Hyeok-Rin for flipping the script and giving us a Chaebol heiress that was actually telling the truth when she stated she was a crocodile. (The subs I watched translated it as an alligator). For once the assertion by the supposedly "damsel in distress" didn't end up being just lip service either; we're actually seeing her in action for ourselves. Most of the time, it's the male lead pursuing the vengeance & revenge, but here it's the former sleeping beauty being unapologetic about having an appetite for revenge and a vengeance is mine mentality — Awesome!

Bonus: The female lead, Han Yeo-Jin, serving up vengeance to those who have wronged her and it has nothing to do with losing out to another woman over a man.

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retweeted and favorited :D

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Love it :)

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Agree!

I am glad that Yeo Jin did not lose her personality or have a lobotomy just because she is so in love with TH. It happens so often in dramas where your spunky smart heroine becomes a hero-worshipper or doormat overnight because she's fallen for the guy.

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agreed on all points August! <3

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The lead up to this episode was absolutely agonizing. After that cliffhanger in ep 12, I checked several sites and most viewers were going crazy, wondering if TH would show up. Another big question was whether YJ really gave the One USB to Secretary Min.

So imagine my surprise when SBS actually showed a preview which had TH showing up. I thought it was kind of mad because now that the question has been answered, what else to get the viewers tuned in? Well, they threw in deceptive scenes of bliss a.k.a kitchen romance and then ended the preview with Yeo Jin wondering who's going to next after President Go. I thought it was brilliant. And that's because the show is nothing short of brilliant too.

I dislike cliffhangers when they keep fooling you or you already know what's going to happen next. This show does cliffhangers well and more than that, the cliffhangers or previews actually lead you to expect one thing when the drama actually does the opposite and unexpected developments take place instead.

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What do you mean by deceptive scene? How is it deceptive?

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Aargh....i should have written deceptively blissful scene. Hmmm...actually not quite right either. I mean that the scene ended with TH carrying YJ out of the kitchen and Nurse Oh voice over asking TH "How was it last night?" Viewers were wondering if they consummate their marriage :D

However, I think the thing that got people really piqued was YJ's change.

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thanks for the points @SS, great post!

this drama had been outsmarting its viewers since day, i think the reason why it got the fancy of the korean viewers, earning ratings which can only be dreamed of by other dramas.

YP thrives and continues to surprise us because it is unconventional and does not conform to cliche's and the usual kdrama tropes. (mainly the reason it is being nitpicked by some viewers, or rathers readers of recap)

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LSS by K.Wills song "Coming To Me" . it shows the strong love of TH, what he feels for YJ.
Hoping Joo won will sing an OST for this drama

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Dojoon is not that scary and not a great threat when he appeared as villain. But when her sister YJ takes over.. omo! She gave me the creeps. Her eyes shows. LOL

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the end of episode 14, i really love Dojoon there. His defeated face says that there's still remorse hopefully.
in my opinion.. Jo hyun jae is best being the good guy not a villain.

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I wanted to reply to some of the replies to my comment above but couldn't, so I'm going to do so here. A lot of people responded to me saying that the show is "unique" or new or fresh, which in my opinion, is not at all true. This show is pretty basic. You've got your wronged protogonist, the person who helps her, your evil peeps to kick out, and little side characters for humor. It's a basic chaebol revenge story with slight differences in gender roles, and occupations. Otherwise, I'm not sure how it's overall premise as an outline is any different from Mask or any other revenge chaebol drama you can think of. I don't care if it's the same basic stuff over again. I love melodrama because it all depends on execution even if you use the same tropes. The acting is great, but generally not much is happening per episode. People talk about doing stuff for long periods of time, and then at the end of an episode, take very little action. Nothing actually real happens, and so I don't at all find it fast paced. Also, I like Joo Won as an actor, but I'm not necessarily his fan. Even if I was, I wouldn't care if his entire fandom is head over heels for the drama, I can't like what I dislike (not that I necessarily dislike the drama; I just feel like I was had by the promotions before the drama started). The drama is fine, but it's not great, it certainly doesn't deserve it's over 20 percent ratings compared to Assembly, which is better written, and executed (and also in the same time slot). It's just whatever, and it's a nice way to waste an hour, if I'm bored and don't feel like using my brain. It's in no way amazing. Of course this is just my opinion.

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I agree with you! just because one says that this is great doesn't necessarily mean it's great or the other will say it's not great so immediately it will not be great! It's just a matter of opinion and taste! I for one, love this drama and think it's amazing but it does not necessarily mean everyone has to agree with me! we just have to respect everyone's opinion and perspective.

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Yeah, to be honest this also sums up my feelings about this drama. Not that original, not that polished, and not enough of the action that I came for. It's not *bad* - it's fun enough to watch, but I'm kind of surprised at how good everyone else seems to think it is. I understand, though, that I'm in the minority, and yay for the people who really do enjoy it.

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I wanted to take an opinion for it's value, however, towards the end, filler words like 'fine, whatever' were used to sum a discussion point. #awkward

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I agree with some of the points you made. Since I hate quoting outside my faculty (as a therapist), I'll try to post a comment focused on your basic arguments.
It's true that everything lays in the execution, especially if we talk about specific genres. Yong Pal and Mask are of the same genre without a doubt. What they also have in common is the ratings and all the "catastrophes" that follow them plot-wise. If they were on cable channels, I'm sure things would have been completely different on every level. And that's not an excuse whatsoever; Reset is this writer's first drama so, it's obvious he does know how to do his job ( Mask's writer has suffered twice already).
It's also true that Assembly is highly underrated in domestic ratings which seems odd, at the very least. However, Yong Pal has brought back viewers who had been long gone from TV (someone mentioned a high percentage of male viewers, which I find reasonable); and that's a statistical fact beyond dispute. Unfortunately, Assembly failed to appeal to wider audiences,- I myself can't understand the reason but it's undeniable nevertheless.
Last but not least, if someone prefers Assembly over Yong Pal, they will probably need to activate a larger part of grey matter in the process...and that's a fact, too.

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@kalel. I've been meandering back and forth, wondering if I should reply to your comment. I typed a long reply once. It got deleted by mistake so now, I'm typing this short one.

Essentially, short of running a survey, can u objectively postulate why Assembly doesn't have mass appeal? Who are its target audience? Can it appeal to different people from various demographics? Finally, the most important question...it is sufficiently entertaining?

from its premise alone, I'll bet it has tons of material to get one's gray matter working, but does it balance that with enough fluff...aka mindless entertainment to get people wanting more?

I hardly like top rated shows. And dont watch shows for their ratings...

but ive come to realise that shows get high ratings when they combine the elements that appeal to a greater number of people. If you analyze Assembly objectively, I'm certain you'll find out what its lacking...

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@Affie

That's why I avoid long comments and replies,- one little mistake and I have to start all over again ( and I get bored and, in the end I completely give up ).

Back to serious staff now: There is no comparison between Yong Pal and Assembly. I hope you didn't miss my point here. I answered extremely fast while, at the same time, I was writing smthing else in a different language. So, perhaps my poor English messed up with my arguments.
Anyway, neither Yong Pal nor Assembly are the definition of "fluffiness" and we certainly can't call Yong Pal "mindless entertainment". But Assembly gets unbelievably low ratings for a drama that deals with politics and how it affects ordinary people whether they are citizens or become politicians (due to pure luck).
I'm absolutely sure that demographics is an essential factor here and that was the core of my answer. Yong Pal appealed to audiences that had stopped watching TV, smthing that Assembly failed to do, hence the numbers.
When it comes to why viewers turn their backs to political dramas ( President also scored low ratings), I'm totally in the dark..!

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@kalel. Lol! I really like your response. :) Thx.

so what I gather is that its safe to say that the political genre is a bit unpopular among kdrama viewers. I wonder why too. Maybe people just think they can watch the news... or read the papers? Lol.

anyway, it brings me back to my entertainment angle... it could be people dont find watching politics entertaining. Why? Because politics is already such a tense subject. Its a dirty game and full of ugly tricks. Maybe people dont want to be reminded of stuff like that.

anyway, I don't know the overriding reason why a lot of people watch kdramas. But I know I watch my kdramas, first and foremost and chiefly for entertainment, and go much, much further later to consider a bunch of other elements in deciding whether to be in for the long haul or not.

Its pretty intellectual in and of itself, to watch dramas and want to go to a forum for in-depth discussions about it... most people just watch to watch and drama with family and friends, laugh over funny stuff, cry over sad stuff, etc. And go back to their regular lives.

in short, dramas are escapism. I wasnt saying YP is fluffy or mindless entertainment, per se. I was saying there is enough balance of that aspect with its other elements to draw people in. So maybe... that's what Assembly is lacking. Just guessing here...

I'll stop before it gets too long again, lol. Once again, thanks for responding.

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@Affie

Don't get me wrong, I like escapism just like anybody else. I started watching Kdramas mostly for that reason. Rom-coms (or com-roms) are my favorite genre to begin with. The matter in question is how (and why) domestic audiences want their dramas in the first place. I know what viewers want in my country and I have a pretty good idea which genre is the most popular. However, SK viewers are far more difficult to see through, as far as I'm concerned. They watched "Sandglass" massively but they hated 'President' and "Assembly", they watch makjang and day-time dramas but Mask never reached Secret's ratings and neither did any rom-com compared to MLFAS.
So, after 3 years in Kdramaland, I can't see a clear pattern and that's why I'm still talking about it. Tbh, I prefer mindless entertainment, slapstick comedy and lots of laughs instead of serious analysis and heavy dramas; everyday life is demanding enough for me anyway.

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@kalel. Not getting you wrong at all. I respect everything you are saying. I'm just curious about some of them, hence, the replies. Lol.

I like your assertion that SK viewers are hard to read. You're giving them a lot of good credit. So even if it doesn't appear to be a genre-biased process, becos they really watched 'Sandglass' and not 'President' and 'Assembly' as much, can we not presuppose the latter two lacked something they wanted in their drama? Even if the three contains the same tropes from beginning to end, and one of them had higher ratings than the other, would it be far-fetched to assume that certain viewers dropped it because it became repetitive perhaps?

You say after 3 years in kdramaland, you are yet to figure out the 'how and why' of domestic viewers drama choices. I doubt that there are no answers to your questions. In fact, I'll bet there are. And just because they don't make any sense to you, doesn't make them any less valid.

At the end of the day, most people likely watch dramas to mitigate the drudgery of their lives so they are allowed to have preferences that make them happier than say, a rom-com or politicos.

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@kalel I have been waiting for Assembly to end to marathon it. I like the genre and the last show in that genre Punch was quite good.
Maybe a comparison of the two should shed a light on why Punch did well (it competed against Healer, Pride and Prejudice - all dealing with social and criminal injustice)

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I wouldn't include Assembly and Punch nor Healer for that matter in the same genre. If we need to find a "sibling" to Assembly, "President" is the closest similar drama. They are both utterly political series in terms of genre (in "The West Wing" way) and both of them tanked in ratings. P&P and Golden Cross are two fantastic dramas about corruption in high-ranking government officials and that's why they did relatively better rating-wise, imho...

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"He tries to get Min to call him something less formal, but Min claims that his title was decided at the board meeting that totally happened off screen (and solved everything)."

I am confused. Do we want a scene like a board meeting to decide on TH's title? I may be reading this wrongly, am I? This is not the first time this drama has been flagged for skipping scenes and creating conveniences. It inspired me to write my Lavender Conversation in ep 8 recap.

I just wonder if we want more of these in our dramas? I cannot remember. I only recall that people griped about unnecessary scenes more than anything else. So much that I expect the worst whenever a group of dour faced men sit around a boardroom table.

By the way, I loved this conversation between TH and Secretary Min(The actor playing Secretary Min is much better here than in My Beautiful Bride). That line "“And later, it will become a place that you can’t ever give up.” was foreshadowing how TH might end up inevitably trapped in grip of riches and power. It reminds me of the conversation Chief Lee had with TH after their first dinner with Chief Byung. Perhaps this is how Chief Lee and Secretary Min become the people they are today. This line also makes me wonder if Secretary Min has his own agenda. It can't be just as simple as him serving a new boss now.

When Secretary Min suddenly calls TH by name, TH was a little taken back and Min never loses the opportunity to make that snide remark that TH was already getting used being called "Sir". Do Joon way underestimated his man.

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The board meeting doesn't have to be happened in this period of time right? I mean, Yeo Jin's father probably had the same title since her mother was the chairwoman before she died.

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LOL. Methinks that group of conniving men probably spent most of their time at the meeting scrambling and strategizing how to handle Yeo Jin.

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@ Ss, just me

I agree with your inputs. To add more scenes in order to depict:
- board meeting to ascertain YP's title
- his sister in the US ( for some strange reasons there's so much interests in the sister scene. I think the scenes were good and heartfelt but too much of it will turn into weekend makjang drama)
- plots holes

Seriously, if we need to fill in on everything it's better for the show to be extended. Which will again infuriate some viewers.

To be frank I would rather have the writer plan out and the station to agree on 20 episodes from the start. Knowing this is an action + melo + romance show I am surprised they only planned out 16 episodes.

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@HeadsNo2

"Is she just in this for revenge? And if so, whatever happened to the girl who confessed before God that she’d be more forgiving of her enemies?"

After the priest told her God was answering her prayers with love and advised her to focus on love instead of hate, she prayed for Tae Hyun's safe return to her. After she got his letter and quickly figured out he was in trouble, she decided God WASN'T listening to her prayers at all. So, no need to abandon the revenge fantasies after all. Off to the hospital to get her man, take some names, and start avenging herself.

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Since almost everything has now fallen to their right places, I do wonder what happened to Taehyun's little sister's "treatment" in the U.S? :P

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Oh the show has made it clear that she'll be OK. The head of security made a call to the US telling them to keep an eye on a certain patient named Kim So hyun. As long as the sister is all right!

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It's in ep 14

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What i love bout this drama is there' a lot layer. A LOT. Especially for YJ character. I love her character, a lot of layer. U can see her ad a dangerous and calculative person. But, also lovely and nice in front of TH.
She turn into queen of crocodile really scary. But, also understandable.
I read few comment who think YJ just use TH, i disagree. The only moment she seems like human being r when she with him. She told him almost everything, every point of view, all her worry. Give him a very powerful position as her guard.she let all her guard off infront of him. for YJ character, to trust someone that much, TH must me someone special

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I'm totally in for "crocodile" Chairwoman with sharp teeth; I'd hate to feel sorry for her any longer. As for Tae-hyun, I hope he can be left alone to do some doctoring, don't see that happening though with such a spouse. xD
I kind of saw President Go's death from a mile, but it is a shock that Yeo Jin was behind it. Eeeek.

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daebak....awesome episode. Yeo Jin please go dark, even better, go darker than your brother. I am looking forward YJ become a smart villain. I am so tired of pure,sweet, candy typed female character.

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correct.. this is something new. but is it too much if i wish for a happy ending? LOL

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Quite frankly, when I saw the preview for this ep... I literally could not think of anything else. I was so excited for YJ and worried for Tae Hyun. I felt like it was going to turn into a "Who the Hell did I Marry?" show, lol. TH is such a forgiving guy but thisis murdering people, ok. Like The Godfather! The followers of those who killed could come after you. I was like... whoa! YJ is really a crocodile!

When she said she was a crocodile at the hospital, I also giggled and had chills and thought 'yeah, but more like a cute baby crocodile, right?' Hehe! Now I know she is The Queen of them. Wow. What a contrast to her loving self towards TH?

That look of pure disdain towards Chae Young...! I felt sorry for her immensely.

I like TH's bodyguard too. And yes! There was a Medical diagnosis of YJ's housekeeper! I thought that's was a very nice touch. A pseudo-house call. Go Yong Pal-ah! ★★★★★★♥♥♥♥♥♥

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The “who the hell did I marry” got me laughing. Even the viewers wonder who the hell did our beloved Yong Pal marry. But that actually happens a lot, even in real marriages.

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I still believe YJ in the end. Chief Min is the one behind all of the killings. He's the evil mastermind.

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The "who the hell did I marry" got me laughing. Even the viewers wonder who the hell did our beloved Yong Pal marry. But that actually happens a lot, even in real marriages, no?

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@bunny. Lol! It sure does. There's a whole docu-series on the subject! It's a real show in America that depicts the horrific side of people getting married to certain people only to find out their true colours later. They broadcast it on a channel in my country. Sometimes the real situations are even worse than this drama! Lol.

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thanks for the recaps!

i must say this writer is really talented. he keeps us guessing (well, only to those who want to think and guess) and he is unpredictable.

sure, i had thought of YJ's revenge but i did not think YJ will be like this.

it is truly a gem to watch a drama with a good writing coupled with great acting.

and YP continues to stay on the 20% mark ratings (albeit it decreased a little), i am sure, people are still gonna call out on YP for not deserving of its ratings. tsk tsk tsk

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I'm a little confused as to why her recent behaviour makes people think she somehow is a "bad" or "two faced person" or that she is using TH.
Yes, she's a crocodile, but she was very honest about it when they met and about her motives for revenge.
So it should come as no surprise to TH. Also, why should she not be ruthless to the people who enslaved her and would stab her in the back as soon as they get the chance.
Ever seen crocodiles in the Nile? The are ferocious, yet the little birds that hop in between their teeth, cleaning the crocs teeth ensuring the crocs teeth (and the crocodile) stay healthy, never get bitten or swallowed. Because the croc knows, he can trust them and they will take care of him/her.
She is ruthless, yes, but that is because she is trying to protect the people she loves or holds in high regard, TY, the staff, the employees of the business her father loved so much.
I don't think she had President Go killed, i think it was the men on that USB stick (not in the room) that ordered it. Remember how his lawyer did not show up UNTILL the prosecutor found out the USB drive on DJ was a fake? Soon as that was found out, the lawyer showed up with the note. I think the order to have President Go kill himself came from the higher ups as a way to appease her, sort of a "gift" to the news Queen.
Yes, she probably knew he was gonna end up like that because she has a really good insight in those people's minds and how they think. Yes she did nothing about it an even gloated in the board room, making the others think she is behind it, but frankly..i would have done the same. That man was a killer,..why save him? Agreed, it may be a tad "evil"but i don't mind.

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I was also wondering who are those men who threatened President Go? Are they from Hanshin Group or another rival company which President Go had been working for on the sly?

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I agree with you:)

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I have a confession though. I had not watched the fully subbed ones when I posted my comments here earlier, so I might have the wrong impression towards Yeo Jin, especially with the creepy soundtrack.

But I have watched it now, and I suppose it is a bit too early to stamp Yeo Jin with the word evil. Many heroic movies start off with the theme of avenging someone or getting revenge over whatever it was taken from him or her, and I can't see how Yeo Jin's inclination to revenge path is any different. What is not common is how Tae Hyun sticks to forgiveness as way out, and have real logic behind it, rather than mere noble idiocy - which I think makes sense, and super cool.

I don't think Yeo Jin killed Dir. Go. He committed suicide after receiving a note containing his son's plea for help. It is possible that his son is threatened by Yeo Jin or by anyone who hates Dir. Go. That old guy has loads of enemies, I bet. Labor union, for instance. But Yeo Jin did not kill anyone per se. That guy took his own life.

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I just love that this time it's a guy who married a chairwoman and he has no idea what's going on and just wants to keep living a simple life without bothering all of the workers. I was pretty annoyed with this show from the last couple of episode but this one, and the next, won my heart back.

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TH is not as powerless as people think, he and JY make a good duo.
Sh knows the ins and outs of business dealings in chaebol groups and has the power that comes with money but his character and charm has made some him some friends who can be very valuable.

You have the gangster ahjussi who,despite the comic relief sometimes, seems the be the biggest and baddest crime boss in Korea or at least Seoul. He and his boys like and respect TH. Imagine being the nerd kid in school but with the School mob boss and his bullies actually protecting your back. :)

Then there is the staff at the hospital and at the house, they may seem powerless, but they are the eyes and ears of the whole place and while they will not go against the powers that be head on, united they could be quite the force.Their information worth gold.

And now we have det.Lee, who is finally starting to see YP as a good guy and someone who he can trust and depend on in hard times.

He's assembling quite a team already without even knowing it.

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Yeah, by the end of this drama, I will draw a list of who's who in Tae Hyun's fanclub :D

Isn't it interesting how different TH gets his 'power' and loyalty from people as opposed to Yeo Jin or Do Joon? Even though Man Shik betrayed him to the police, still he put his life on the line for TH when it mattered most.

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put me on the fanclub list too ;) and make one for his bodyguard too ...he's cute.

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wat is yeo jin doing

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I don't know why I keep watching this drama.. Joo won is one reason.. But the writer of this drama don't know what is going on... Very mess up scenario.. Joo won love you

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@Egyptian. Wow. I wish you could share more with us. What were your expectations for this show and how are they being disppointed? Im being genuinely curious here.

Do you read the comments on here though? Cos some of us seem to really get this writer. I'm sure they will be of great help in understanding what's going on...

though, I must say I'll also love and be awed your loyalty if you're gonna watch all 18 eps...Just for Joo Won without the added benefit of understanding what going on! Lol. Why? Applause for you then *claps of awe* :)

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oddly enough, the person i think might relate to YJ and who might help her changer her mind might be Gangster ahjussi. Think about it, both live a similar lifestyle.
Let's not be fooled by his kind gestures to TY and his comic timings, we seen that he too is/was a killer if needed. You can't become a mob boss without some blood on your hands. He too probably had to do things he does not want to in order to protect his life and that of his boys. Mob and business world looks eerily similar at this point, except gangsters stab you in the front like real friends do :)

Maybe that's why he and JY like TY so much, he reminds them of their own side they had to squash down in order to survive.Their little spark of light.The road not taken?

Right now YJ is throwing a tantrum again, just like when she was a kid and who can blame her.
Look at the upbringing she had.
Then after waking after 3 years of coma ,She found out her dad let her be in a coma knowing full well her brother would not wake her ,then throws her in a crocodile pit with nothing but a (usb) stick saying"see if you get out alive and prove to be a worthy heir", her beloved brother wanted to kill not just her fiance but her too, the guy she thought was gonna get her out of that vile world was playing along with her brother and everyone around her sort of knew she was held against her will in one form or another but did nothing.

Hell i wanna kill them just out of sympathy for her ! and all this she has to cope with within a few weeks while trying to protect her life and TY's and his sister in this hostile environment.

The problem is, by doing it this way, she is yet again in danger of becoming a prisoner in a place she does not want to be in, but this time, the prison is of her own making.

Maybe Doochul ahjussi and his life experience may convince her NOT to go that way. Besides, i think the 2 should meet, after all, "Hyung" needs to check out dongsaengs Yong pal's new wife right? and bring a present...possibly the head of their enemies..gift wrapped. ok maybe just a rice cooker..i'll be nice...

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I think this is all an act by YJ..There is a mastermind behind all of these but I don't think it's YJ. Her father wants her to protect hanshin and change it but couldn't as long as there are those those enemies who wants to kill her and and take the company from her. (I don't think it's DJ and pres. Go are the only enemies here. ). She needs to find out who are those. But now those enemies have started their plan to kill Chief Lee(The attending doctor of YJ who drugged her) and Do Joon( maybe to make it look like YJ is behind all of this).
For me, I had goosebumps while watching her. She had the intention to kill them but I don't think she's behind all of this..
Chief Min is a suspicious person. Something odd about him. I don't like him. He's scary when he threaten CY about her past.. "She's nothing without DJ."

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