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Cheese in the Trap: Episode 11

And we’re back! Phew, that was a long two weeks, but I white-knuckled through it. I don’t know if it was because the romance was in a cooling period that coincided with the break, but it seems like an extra long time since we’ve seen our couple together, let alone happy. I think we’ve earned some happy, don’t you? This episode is a big one for our heroine, who faces some harsh truths about her family and begins to fight for the things she wants, in more ways than one.

 
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EPISODE 11 RECAP

Seol can’t help herself and stares at the picture of her boyfriend looking cozy next to In-ha, and has to convince herself not to attach any meaning to it. She puts it down and tries to focus on looking for a job, and happens to overhear Little Bro Joon whining for more allowance from Dad, and Dad just handing him more money so that he can “live like a man.” While Seol gives up so much for them to get by? Ugh, the sexism in this house, I swear.

Stalker Boy Young-gon spends an entire class muttering to himself about how he’s going to embarrass Jung with that photo of him and In-ha, after which he’ll be the only guy left in Seol’s life. You know, for a stalker, you know very little about how many guys are orbiting Seol.

Eun-taek can sense the stalker’s stare and ushers Bora and Seol out of class as soon as it’s over, but Seol pauses when she sees In-ha standing in the hall waiting for class to be let out.

Young-gon does his damnedest to catch up to Seol, brushing aside his girlfriend Da-young, who’s already fed up. She demands to talk now, at which he raises his hand to strike her. He stops short, but it’s enough for everyone to gasp.

Suddenly In-ha steps in and slaps Young-gon across the face and screams at him for being a cheating bastard. Muahaha. She pounds him over and over, crying that he said she was the only one. She stares Da-young up and down, calling her Young-gon’s second girlfriend on the side and pitying her.

Da-young doesn’t believe her at first and demands to know who In-ha is, but In-ha shows everyone the picture of shirtless Young-gon on her phone (ah, so that’s what the naughty picture exchange was for). Young-gon tries to defend himself, but Da-young says the photo was sent from his phone number, and slaps him across the face.

Young-gon won’t go down like this and takes out his phone to show everyone the photo of In-ha with Jung. He says that this girl is really Jung’s girlfriend, not his. Seol has stood by this whole time without saying anything, just wondering curiously how In-ha would know Young-gon.

But now her anger bubbles up and she thinks to herself that it enraged her to see Jung dragged through the mud by a scumbag like Young-gon. Seol steps out from the crowd and says she’s seen the picture and acts as cavalier about it as possible. She says she knows In-ha and is friendly with her brother, and that Jung grew up with them. Seol calls that amount of skinship in the photo no big deal for someone like In-ha, lying that she spent time abroad, and In-ha comes running to cry on Seol’s shoulder.

Young-gon tells them to stop acting and screams that Seol couldn’t possibly know In-ha, but he’s the only one who looks like a liar now, and Da-young calls herself the crazy one for dating a lying bastard like him. He tries to calm her down and explain himself, but she cuts him off: “Get lost, you dirty bastard, and never call me again!” She slaps him one last time and stalks off, and In-ha gets in one last hair-grab too.

Young-gon scrambles up from the floor to plead his case with Seol, but she stares him right in the face and says, “Trash. You’re trash without an answer.” She pushes him away, and he deflates. He stands there in shock as everyone walks away from him.

Seol asks In-ha to sit down with her for a chat, and admits that she said that stuff back there to make In-ha’s story more credible. Seol asks warily if In-ha really dated Young-gon, or if this has something to do with Jung. In-ha can tell what she’s afraid of and says it has nothing to do with Jung this time, but wonders what Seol would do if it had.

In-ha says there’s really only two types of girls around Jung—the kind who run away scared or cling because they know he’s loaded—but this is the first time she’s met someone like Seol, who’s neither.

In-ha thinks Seol is just stringing Jung along and will leave anyway, and warns her to do it sooner rather than later before making things hard “for our Jung-ie.” In-ha adds a warning that she’ll make Seol leave if she has to, and then makes a big show of texting Jung.

Meanwhile Jung is busy being the work doormat. The assistant manager above him just continues to abuse his power and dump all the busywork on Jung, purposely excluding him from lunches with the boss and putting his name on all of Jung’s work.

Jung is so frustrated that he slams his chair as he gets up from his desk, but he spots a few other co-workers staring curiously, and he remembers his father’s warning that people will be watching his behavior.

Seol tutors In-ho in the library, and he wonders if they’re allowed to be in here when she got fired from her job. She points out that she wasn’t banned from being in the library, and says she’s got plenty of time to oversee his studies. She sets her timer for another practice test, and by the time it goes off, she’s asleep.

In-ho scrambles to shut the alarm off and then watches her sleep, remembering his sister’s accusation that he liked Seol. He stares at her and wonders aloud, “Do I…?” He starts to write in his textbook, and tears the corner of the page out to leave as a note next to Seol before heading off to piano practice.

She wakes up sometime later to read the note, which just says that he’s sorry he didn’t finish the practice test, and nags her to sleep at home, not at school. Adorably, she takes out a red pen and corrects his grammar in the note.

In-ho practices “Für Elise” and thinks of Seol as he plays, and his teacher listens from the hall with a smile, hearing the emotion in the way he’s playing. He thinks that it sounds like a sad wind, and decides that In-ho is becoming In-ho again.

Jung tells In-ha that his one condition in accepting her deal was for her to stay away from Seol. I knew you put her up to this! He’s upset that her idea of taking care of Stalker Boy was to make a public scene involving Seol, but In-ha says in her defense that Stalker Boy went wherever Seol went. So while stalking the stalker, In-ha ended up seeing a LOT of Seol… and In-ho by her side. And naturally she took a whole bunch of photos to prove it.

She shows them to Jung, feigning worry but obviously enjoying this, and Jung can’t really hide his reaction to seeing them together all the time. In-ha offers to send the pictures to Jung and walks away with a brand new credit card.

Seol walks home and thinks over In-ha’s accusation that she was stringing Jung along. She realizes that she’s right about being non-committal: “I can’t run away, I can’t accept him. I can’t commit. But then when things get hard, I wish Sunbae were by my side. And I miss him.”

When she opens the front door, she’s pulled out of her thoughts by Dad yelling at Joon and hitting him over and over. He’s discovered that Joon dropped out of school and doesn’t want to go back to the States, and Dad refuses to let that stand. He tells Joon that he’s leaving right away and he’ll put Seol on a break from school to pay for his tuition if he has to. What the ever living…

At that, Seol shows herself and finally speaks up. She asks why she should have to take time off of school for Joon, when last semester she had to give up her apartment and start doing a four-hour commute, on top of part-time jobs and maintaining her scholarship.

Dad says she might feel bad now, but he asks her to think of the future, because all she has to do is get married, while Joon has to take care of their family. BARF. Seriously?

Seol asks, “Am I not your child? Do I become a stranger when I get married? I work part-time jobs on my own, earn my own tuition. I worry about my grades slipping, that I won’t be able to keep my scholarship. My head feels like it’s going to crack because of money worries every single day! No matter how much I try, you’ve never once been satisfied. You’ve never once praised me. I want to be praised and comforted too.”

Mom goes over to comfort her, but Seol says that Mom is no different—in the end she asks Seol to take on all the responsibility and just expects her to do it. Mom says it’s because she can depend on Seol more, but Seol asks, “What about me then? Whom do I depend on?”

She runs out in tears, and Joon runs out after her. Out in the street, he finds In-ho instead, and panics that Seol ran away from home and isn’t answering her phone. In-ho starts looking for her too, wondering what caused the sudden burst of teenage rebellion.

Seol calls Bora while she walks through the neighborhood, hoping to see her and Eun-taek. But when Bora says she’s having dinner with her father, Seol acts like nothing’s wrong and says they’ll catch up next time.

She tells herself, “Nothing’s changed. You’ve always done well on your own. But sometimes… sometimes I…”

She looks up and her face suddenly changes. Off in the distance, Jung is standing by his car, smiling hesitantly at her. He doesn’t approach, but the sight of him makes her burst into tears. He mouths silently, “Seol-ah, how have you been?”

At that she takes off in a run towards him, and he starts running to her too. She runs into his arms and sobs freely into his shoulder, and he just holds her silently, comforting her as she cries.

In the distance, In-ho finds them and hangs his head to see that she’s already found solace in Jung. He turns around and walks off with a long sigh.

Jung and Seol sit in the car once her tears are dry, and Jung says, “I missed you. A lot.” Seol answers, “I missed you too. Very much.” He smiles and tentatively reaches out to hold her hand, and she puts her other hand on his.

Seol narrates, “There were so many things I wanted to ask Sunbae when I saw him again. But the fact that he was there by my side right then, that I could see his face and hear his voice and feel his warmth, that’s reason enough why I can’t break up with him.”

When Seol gets a call from Mom, Jung offers to take her home so that they don’t worry about her, but she doesn’t want to go home yet. He suggests a drive and they pick up snacks on the way, and eventually Seol just falls asleep in the car.

The next morning, she wakes up in Jung’s bed and it takes a long moment before she realizes that he’s standing there smiling at her and saying good morning. He teases her for her bloated morning face and her loud sleeping habits, and says he couldn’t sleep a wink. He says that her parents texted multiple times, and he asked Bora to call them so they wouldn’t worry.

He confirms that she doesn’t have school today and then hops into bed with her to catch a nap before work, insisting that it’s her fault he couldn’t sleep. He throws his arms and legs around her and says he’s going to trap her so she can’t run away.

Once he’s got her there, he nuzzles up close and asks, “Can I call you now?” She doesn’t answer, so he leans over and kisses her. Jung: “Can I come see you now?” Another kiss. Humona, please never answer him ever again.

He stares into her eyes, and she finally gives a little nod. He beams and nuzzles her forehead this time, murmuring, “Thank you.”

Seol walks up to her front door with a grim expression and expects the worst when she walks in. Mom is upset at her for staying out all night, but Dad seems slightly nicer in his gruff way, and Joon is eager to make her feel better. He whispers to her that Mom and Dad were really worried, and Mom insists on making her breakfast.

Mom sort of blurts that she’s sorry and says she didn’t even know one of Seol’s friend’s phone numbers to call last night, and that if Bora hadn’t called, she was ready to call the police. Clearly Mom and Dad are still fighting though, and Mom says she’s grown tired of nagging Dad to stop wasting his time on money-sucking ventures and start caring about their noodle shop.

In-ho is still wearing last night’s clothes in the morning, and he asks Joon if Seol came home okay. Joon says she just came in after spending the night at Bora’s, and it dawns on In-ho that she must’ve spent the night with Jung.

Perhaps the fight with Seol was the wakeup call Dad needed, because he arrives to meet In-ho at a busy street corner to hand out flyers for the noodle shop. In-ho complains that he looks stupid in the picture, while Dad insists that he paid to use him as a model, so he has the right to use the picture. In-ho points out that payment was a bowl of jajangmyun, lol, so Dad offers to buy him another lunch today if he passes out flyers with him.

Seol texts Jung to tell him she got in trouble and calls him her accomplice, and he jokes about confessing to her parents. His shameless assistant manager comes by to ask how the report is coming along, and Jung says he found a few things to add, but will have it ready by tomorrow. He smiles to himself though, which means he’s up to something.

Young-gon sits in the dark like a creeper and keeps calling In-ha repeatedly, but she doesn’t answer. His reputation is only getting worse by the day, because someone has uploaded pictures of him stalking Seol on the university message boards. You can’t really see faces in the pictures, and he tries to argue that there’s nothing to prove it’s him in the photos.

At first he wonders if it’s Jung or In-ha, but then he remembers In-ho chasing him out of the library and decides it must be him. Young-gon goes to school (thinking to hide his face with a tiny branch, pfft) and runs up to harass Seol about it. But Eun-taek and Bora see him coming and intercept Seol before he can get to her, and Seol ignores the text he sends her about getting In-ho to back off.

Bora asks what happened the other night, and is shocked to hear that Seol really did spend the night at Jung’s place. Eun-taek: “In the same bed?” Seol insists they just slept, and Eun-taek counters that Jung should go to the hospital if that’s the case.

In-ho looks hesitant when he arrives for his tutoring session today, and instead of sitting next to Seol like normal, he sits two seats away. When she gets up to take the seat next to his, he scoots all the way into the aisle to keep his distance. Are you going to pull her pigtails next?

Seol starts packing up her things, so he finally inches slightly closer, and she uses that chance to yank his chair back so he’s next to her. She starts correcting his homework and explaining what he did wrong, but he’s so distracted by his racing heart that he can’t focus, and just abruptly calls an end to their session today.

They ride the subway home together and Seol says that things must’ve been hard on Joon too for him to have dropped out of school like that. In-ho says that Joon isn’t completely thoughtless, and says that he was running all over the neighborhood looking for her the other night. He catches himself and adds that that’s what he heard, not letting on that he was running around all night too.

In-ho chides her for running away from home at this age, and tells her, “As your runaway sunbae,” not to do it anymore. She says mockingly that he sounds like an adult, and he scoffs that he’s technically her oppa.

Seol: “Then should I call you oppa?” LOL, the look on his face. He stammers, “O…oppa?” He tries to act like that’s absurd and barks at her not to call him that, only he can’t hide the grin on his face.

She starts having fun with it and coos, “Why not? Oppaaaaaa~! Ohp-pa! It’s okay, Oppaaa!” Naturally, he’s grinning like a loon.

He suddenly gets all cutesy in return and says they should go somewhere to mark the occasion, and then returns to his tough guy act and tells her to stop with the oppa-ing. He keeps muttering it to himself though.

They get off at the next stop and Seol starts whining, wondering where he’s taking her. When he doesn’t tell her, she grins to herself and calls out, “Oppaaa~, In-ho oppa, where are we going?” I love how flustered he gets.

He just tells her to follow and takes her to the street corner where Dad is handing out flyers for the noodle shop, and tells Seol that he’s been doing this by himself for a while now. Seol is shocked that this is what he’s been doing when their family thinks he’s wasting his time on some other money-making scheme, and she stops In-ho from approaching him.

Seol has a better idea and returns with Mom and Joon in tow, with the excuse that she’s going to take them out to dinner because she feels bad about running away from home. They accidentally-on-purpose run into Dad and In-ho, and Mom is suddenly a little sweeter to him, still nagging but tying her scarf around Dad’s neck so he won’t catch cold.

They insist on going out to family dinner, and In-ho pushes Dad to go with them while he stays behind to hand out flyers. In-ho doesn’t want to impose on a family dinner, but they refuse to go without him, which warms my heart.

Seol makes him swap places with her at the table because she knows he eats with his left hand, and In-ho is touched when Mom puts meat on his plate and Dad makes a lettuce wrap for him. They’re surprised to hear that he’s studying for his high school equivalency exam and encourage him sweetly, and Mom tells Seol to help In-ho. Can they adopt him?

The next day, In-ho’s rendition of ” Für Elise” is sunshine and rainbows, and Teacher wonders why his emotions are so up and down lately. Teacher decides that they’ve already had their lesson for the day and suggests lunch instead.

Young-gon tries yet again to get to Seol right after class, but Bora and Eun-taek race over to her just in time. They discuss lunch plans, but when Seol gets a text from Jung saying that he’s on campus, she runs off to have lunch with him.

Bora sighs, and Eun-taek asks if she’s jealous and if she really intends to keep him as an underling forever. He’s obviously angling for more, but she ignores it.

Seol bounds up to Jung with a huge smile and he offers her a hand as they skip off to lunch. They eat in the cafeteria, which reminds Jung of the time Seol skipped out on him to go on a blind date. She sheepishly tells him not to bring up such ancient history.

She asks how work is, and he in turn asks how school is going for her. She starts to answer honestly, and then catches herself, realizing she almost told him about Young-gon. She thinks to herself that she doesn’t want to talk about Young-gon today, though she intends to tell Jung at some point.

She wonders if she ought to tell Jung about tutoring In-ho, and decides that it’s just studying and she should tell him. But just then, In-ho and his piano teacher happen to walk up with trays of food.

Teacher recognizes Seol and sits down next to her, and In-ho reluctantly sits down while exchanging cold glances with Jung. Teacher tells In-ho that he ought to thank Seol for passing along his card, and In-ho mock-thanks her, while Teacher sighs that he should’ve studied and come to school properly.

In-ho says that the studying is no big deal and prods Seol to agree that he’s doing well, and she starts coughing violently to shut him up. She thinks, “I haven’t told him yet,” as she coughs long enough to break that chain of thought in the conversation.

Teacher asks if Jung is also In-ho’s friend, and In-ho answers, “No,” while Jung answers, “Yes.” Jung introduces himself and asks if In-ho is playing piano well these days, and In-ho tells him to mind his own beeswax.

Teacher says he’s doing really well, and that his playing is full of emotion that wasn’t there before. Teacher turns to In-ho and asks, “Are you dating lately?” And now it’s In-ho’s turn to cough violently, a reaction that grabs Jung’s attention.

In-ho insists that there’s no girlfriend, but Jung already seems to catch on, and suddenly stops to take Seol’s hand in the middle of lunch and peel a grain of rice from her sleeve. It’s a tender gesture, but in the context, it feels a little like marking his territory.

Teacher finishes his lunch and gets up, and In-ho is about to get up too, when Joon calls. He asks In-ho to buy a bowl and kitchen towel on his way home, and In-ho asks Seol where it was that they bought stuff the last time. Seol says they can’t shop there anymore and just leans over to shout into In-ho’s phone that that store sells faulty merchandise, and In-ho says they’ll go elsewhere.

He hears from Joon that Mom and Dad went out together, and both Seol and In-ho light up at the same time. She asks if they really went out together, and In-ho says they must’ve made up and that her buying dinner the other night must’ve really had an effect.

They’re ecstatic, but Jung watches this whole exchange with a dark expression, growing ever darker as Seol and In-ho continue to finish each other’s thoughts and speak about things he’s never heard of. Their rapport is so easy, and Seol doesn’t even realize that Jung doesn’t know what they’re talking about when she turns to him and repeats that Mom and Dad went out together.

Jung flashes back to high school, when he’d come home from school to find In-ho and In-ha sitting with Dad in the living room, chit-chatting easily about their day and laughing, while Dad just gave him a silent nod as he walked past them.

He can’t shake the thought and gets up to walk out, and Seol runs after him to ask what’s wrong. Jung stops and says, “It looks like you’ve gotten very friendly with Baek In-ho.”

She hesitates and starts to explain that she’s helping him study, on top of the fact that he works at her parent’s shop, but at that Jung just starts to walk away again.

She tries to hold him back, but he pulls his arm free of her grasp and just walks away, leaving her stunned.

 
COMMENTS

This whole thing with In-ho is a much more interesting conflict than all the stalkers, because I like how it brings out old insecurities in Jung. He’s pretty unruffled by most things, but it’s clear that there’s a long-running jealousy there in how easily In-ho makes friends and wins people over. Jung is just one of those people who doesn’t know how to be that open and approachable, and it’s likely been a thing he’s envied in In-ho for a long time. He literally has the one thing Jung can never buy with all the money in the world. Perhaps he saw a shift in his father’s attentions as a teenager, and that’s what started the rift between the two boys. And if it’s happening all over again with Seol, I can certainly see how frustrating it could be for Jung, who only ever sees In-ho coming in and receiving love from the people Jung loves most. Told a different way, In-ho could’ve been the evil stepbrother who takes everything that Jung loves.

Only In-ho isn’t evil; he’s just the kind of person who wears his sincerity on his sleeve, and happens to be lovable on top of it all. The wounded artist thing certainly doesn’t hurt, but he’s also just a good guy who works hard and genuinely cares about the people around him. The thing that upsets me the most is the idea that In-ho might be adrift again if he can’t stay in Seol’s life, and I want Seol to just tell Jung, I’m friends with him, so deal with it! That’s probably insensitive though, considering all of Jung’s issues with In-ho (not to mention the fact that In-ho likes her, which she doesn’t know). I just need him to have a family, okay? (And no, In-ha doesn’t count.) Is it too much to ask that Seol’s family adopt him and Jung get over it? Probably. Sigh.

It still bothers me that Seol can’t tell Jung what’s going on in her life, and no matter how much I like them together in the moment, every time she holds back from him, I wince. She should be able to tell him about everything, but even that night when she ran to him and cried on his shoulder, in the end she said nothing about what made her cry or what she’s going through. I know that In-ho knows most of this by default because he’s around her family in the day-to-day, but she also just confides in him very freely, and I can’t help but think that’s how an ideal relationship should be.

It’s her fault for overthinking things with Jung and always wanting to show him only the good parts and leave out the bad, but I understand why she didn’t say anything about Young-gon, because then retaliation would be inevitable, and they’d be back to square one. I mean, even now he’s lying to her about sending In-ha after Young-gon, no matter how much In-ha went off-book. I don’t know, on paper, this relationship shouldn’t work; but when they’re running into each other’s arms, I just think, Well of course they should be together. Duh. Honestly though, I don’t know how it’ll last if they continue like this.

I’m often enraged for Seol when watching this drama, but I was especially angry today, and I’m still miffed that they redeemed Dad so easily. I know he didn’t have an abrupt change in personality or anything, but for me it wasn’t nearly enough that he had been secretly working hard to make their noodle shop a success. What about the part where you valued your son over your daughter and thought her future amounted to the person she’d marry? Are you kidding me? It was maddening enough that they’d made her work so hard to pay her own tuition while they sent Joon abroad and paid the bill, but he actually expected Seol to quit school and start earning Joon’s tuition too?

I’m still livid that a father of a daughter could think that way, and it informs a lot of Seol’s personality—her meekness, her tendency to let others take advantage of her. It also makes me proud for how far she’s come in standing up for herself and fighting her battles, especially standing up to Mom and Dad, which had to have been the toughest thing to do. Now, more than anything, I just want Seol to have someone she can lean on and tell everything to, someone who will always take her side. I think Jung could be that guy… but will she ever trust him enough to let him? And… should she?

 
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Really thoughtful ep, loved it!

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I don't think Dad was supposed to be forgiven for that but because Dad is Dad, a little useless and agonizing but ultimately not malicious or deadbeat, Seol is gonna let him off on this one event since he did repent (in his stiff ways but still, sorry he was) and because she loves her family and wants it to be together although I don't doubt that he will screw up over this sexism again. Sexism is not a view instilled in a minute and it most certainly won't be erased over one blow up. Dad is still gonna be sexist but he's still Seol's daddy - someone who raised her and loved her (even if he didn't love very fairly) - and that's what one does with family - accept them for their good and bad (unless they're downright evil and unhealthy then please save yourself though I don't advocate easy-breakups of families).

Families will laugh, cry, hurt and heal each other and it's always the individual's responsibility to speak up or express what stresses him/her or as Sung BoRa says "They're so busy with their lives. If you don't speak up, how would they know? They're not mind readers" because only by expressing can there be communication and then can the family unit truly last for long.

Right now, since Seol can't control how her dad thinks (duh) the best she can do is to stand up for herself and learn how to muster that wrath of hell unique to women (actually, I think Jung too, haha) to launch at him when he does shit like this again since she obviously sees him for more than being a sexist pig and isn't gonna cut him out of her life.

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Its fairly true you can't just break up with family like bf/gf relationship... in my country this is common problem... they even kill the girl child before the birth...
I'll be glad if soel didn't have to take semester off ... I've been there my parents chose my brother's PG and made me take a year off my UG .. I faced so much problem during interviews to give a valid reason for taking an year off... can't even start what I had to face after rejoining... to take all the classes with my juniors... my parents realised after I went through all and sent me for PG too... still it hurts that you can never be your parents first choice....

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That sounds terrible. Great that you found the strength to power through it all.

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I'm glad you spoke up for yourself then.

I have no concluding opinion about the travesty of female-infanticide since I'm of the thought that they're not born so how would they realise the harm they've been subjected to but also agreeing with the accusations of unfairness (because it is!). I'm just a ball of confusion when it comes to this but I'm definitely on the side of wishing that it does/will not happen AT ALL.

Parents hurt their children all the time. You're gonna hurt them too. Especially when we've come to this age of split-second information exchanges in such a short time (30+ years! And not everyone had internet since its birth too) and therefore massive culture exchanges. Thinking change. Value systems change. So you have to always stand up for what you think is good for yourself because what they may not understand the full consequences of their actions on our new-millennial mindset (and vice versa). But that's what it means to be bonded together for all eternity.

And this may be TMI but whenever I hear the phrase "women belong in the kitchen, not men. And men belong n the workplace not women", I inadvertently want to retort with "what? Do women chop veggies with their boobs? And do men do work will their balls and penises?!"

Yes, I get that it's crass and immature but sexism ain't such mature thinking itself. I also offer virtual eye-ball detergent for whomever wants it, along with my very sincere apologies... haha!

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Agree with what you wrote about forgiving dad to keep the family together. Beautifully explained.

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I agree about the dad. It's not like its 30 years ago and his daughter really can't care for him maybe after marriage. After all his business failures too. He should have explained to his wife.

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Even though the balance has been on In Ho a lot more in recent episodes, I thought Jung had some really strong character moments in this ep.

I can't imagine he's ever had someone run to him and fling her arms around him quite like that - showily, sure, or in some overly dramatic way. He's a chaebol, girls will have been literally throwing themselves at him for years. But this was someone he desperately wanted to comfort, and who actually saw him as a refuge. I can't help but this that for Jung, that was a first.

It's nice to see that genuine expressions of affection from Seol translate to cracking Jung open a little bit - his facial expressions loosened up after that, as did his physical contact. It's so sad to see that his father has trained him so thoroughly to suppress natural emotion that he needs some sort of green light from Seol to let go in front of her.

I'm really impressed by PHJ in this show.

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Me too.

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yeah, for all his politeness around Seol, Jung genuinely seems to want her, and want to be closer to her, on more than one level - both physically (I honestly wonder if he's even engaged in that much skinship with anyone in his life before Seol - the answer, knowing what we do of Jung, is likely to be NO) and in her head.

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Miranda, fantastic analysis of Jung's character. Yes, he has a very complex personality. Mainly, as a result of his relationship with his father. Episode 11 gave us a closer look into Jung's emotions and PHJ is doing an outstanding job bringing those emotions to life. we just need to wait a little longer- the writer is going to go more in dept regarding what made Jung the way he is. I dare to say, it goes beyond infantile jealousy.

Mirium, from New York City

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Just saw ep 12 raw. Mind blown.

I can't even begin to express.... I should've had more faith like you here. *Awed*

I just had to say SOMETHING and I will now shut up.

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Feel free to strike that if that is not allowed. (Apologies if so).

I tried not to put in spoilers but Im reduced to babbling. Heh.

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jealous that you already watch ep 12.
I have a meeting & need to be clearheaded & all. hahaha
so CITT after work

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I'm slowly becoming more and more torn between In ho and Jung :(

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Feel same right here.

But I am prefer In ho as an oppa for Seol. He could really fit in in her family!

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I'm already torn. Ripped to shreds!

IN HO AND SEOL ARE SO GOOD TOGETHER.

Ugh ugh ugh ugh why why why why-

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Huh. Opposite reaction. That last episode put me thoroughly in the Jung camp.

In fact, I'll be furious if he is left alone in the dark again.

Two scenes:
1. When he shows a rare burst of anger at the office (the chair goes flying backwards when he noticed his work was passed off as that parasite's) then he notices all the ppl watching him and recalls his Dad telling him how his actions now at the office will reflect on him later. And he walks away pulling at his tie as if it's strangling him.

Geez, Dad. He can't even show honest and healthy anger thanks to you. (And bear in mind that he has no idea who his Dad's spies are.)

2. Flashback to when he came home and Inho/Inha were laughing with Dad while the SON gets barely a nod? That broke my heart. His Dad works an awful lot and Jung probably hardly ever saw him. These two extroverted kids arrive at what? 10 or so and the son gets held to a higher standard but receives less affection? You know, in some families, the quiet, intelligent and polite children are actually loved equally...or even more.

I don't blame Jung at all for his insecurity about Inho. (Tbh, I'd be a hella lot worse.) Especially if he, himself, once loved (and I hope he still does love) him too.

Hence, I don't think it's only Seol's father who is responsible to a large degree for their children turning out this way where they can't seem to communicate some things which badly need saying. I hate the trend of blaming the parents for everything but in the area of why Jung and Seol can't seem to find healthy outlets (or wait far too long), their environment has an awful lot to do with it. :( I think if the couple can work through the lack of communication on some very crucial things, they can help heal each other's broken places.

I also do not think Inho is as innocent as all that (ex. He first got to know Seol because Jung liked her in order to aggravate Jung) and I hated the producers for sticking him in scenes where I just honestly wanted to be happy for the couple and take a break from the constant pressure.

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+1 to your entireeeee comment. This last episode pissed me off so much; I mean, I know it's not the fault of any of the characters, but that easy camaraderie between Inho and Seol had me wanting to throw things at my laptop.

I think Seol and Jung are very similar at a certain level e.g. lack of affection from their parents, and if only they could see the fractures in each other's soul a bit more clearly I think they could both go a long way in healing each other - yet right now, they're both keeping quiet and preventing their other half from seeing those fractures in a way that would expose their vulnerabilities. It's right to say that Seol doesn't do so with Inho either, but Inho simply has more access because of his rapport with her family and I think that's partly because Seol's family wouldn't have known how to relate to Jung at the surface level - after all, he's a chaebol, he's polite, he's well put-together, he's rich etc. What could they possibly have in common? So Jung does get left out in the cold, and to be honest, I don't think his reaction to that is overt at all. It's that feeling of being left out again, of feeling like he's losing her.

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Exactly. This episode really helped me understand Jung a lot more (all the episodes and slow unraveling has been tbh).

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Exactly!!!
And about the Inho/Seol relationship… Well i don’t think it is a healthy one.. She might feel comfortable around him but he takes a lot without her noticing: friends, family, school ..
Inho is everywhere and she doesnt see it yet but knowing the character soon she will feel suffocated, or even jealous .
I think that Inho and Inha history makes of them attention suckers.. They aren’t bad person but they tend to invade their surrondings… Seol and Jung are a perfect example ..
The siblings are in survival mode and take everything they need (family, money, attention) or want from people around them. Consciously for Inha and genuinely for Inho…
I dont ship a couple but to me seol jung is a better pair. Being there for each other and trying to fix their insecurities, to improve and to learn how to live in this world. I prefer that to Inho’s desperate need to have things even if it means crushing ( unconsciously) others’ people feelings..

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i'm soooo with you on this!!! Loved your comment!!!!

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+100000.... exactly what I had in my mind... And I don't understand why some thing In ho matches with Seol... Who Seol wants is someone she can rely on... and In Ho just doesn't qualify. And I was so irritated when In Ho and the professor appeared at the cafeteria...grrr... Jungs anger is totally justified... I had feel the same. With this episode I kinda not liking In Ho at all..

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yeah, in many ways Jung and Seol actually mirror each other in their tendency to swallow their hurt at being left out or neglected, and in the way they deal with it.

It was particularly striking this episode, because the reaction Seol had when she saw her dad spoiling Joon, was almost the exact same as Jung's reaction to finding his dad behaving like a lovingly indulgent parent to In-ho and In-ha. The episode doesn't throw it in our faces, but it's there and the connection isn't hard to make at all.

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Great comment, totally agree with what you said! I definitely need to see more development with Jung and Seol opening up to each other more, but how can you not feel for Jung? That sort of isolation he had to endure from his own father, unable to freely express himself is really heartbreaking to me.

While I like Seol helping In-ho to find back his way and I did like their friendship, for what it was (before they started to push the love triangle) I just feel resentful to In-ho now. It's not the character's fault but the way the show intercepts Jung and Seol's moments and prevents more development between them, in order to push this thing with In-ho.

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Yeah, I liked Inho before this. :/

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You know, in some families, the quiet, intelligent and polite children are actually loved equally…or even more.

And in many others they're unfairly made to carry more burdens on the sole unfair reasoning that they can.

My mom once tried the "because you're the eldest" schtick on me and boy did she not expect the hurricane that came. Having the ability =/= wanting to. I mean, doing stuff for others because one wants to (like, I do stuff for my sister because I like her and I can) is nice but being expected to do so / making it a thankless obligation just because one can... now that's not fair at all. Because if that's true, Bill Gates should pay for all my living expenses because he can - whether he wants to is irrelevent because he can!

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Funny enough that last bit about doing things you are expected to is how I feel Inho views Jung having to take care of his sister. No one will know how much it makes me rage when he goes in on Jung about "how could you just kick my sister out like that?" Excuse you? She a grown woman who can and needs to have been take care of herself.

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I totally agree with you!
I can't stand these type of lazy parasites!

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MTE on all of this.

This episode made me really feel for Jung. What I find telling is how his story and conflict with dad so mirrors that of Seol and her family conflict and issue with dad. Seol is Jung, Joon is Inho, and the asshat dad are the asshat dads.

I need Jung to go off on his father like Seol did because boy has been and continues to hold too much in. He keeps trying to "keep up appearances" (Seol too) and that is keeping people form getting closer to him. He is Elisa from Frozen (down to be locked in a room) and he just needs to let it go. Go and build a snowman with Seol Jungie.

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Lol! Maybe they should just build a snowman and live happily ever after! Haha!!

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Haha. My Frozen analogy: Either Jung or Inho should do a sacrificial thing in trying to save the other and hence, melts the ice. Summer arrives.

Bam! Bromance wins! ^_^.

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That's the best analogy I've seen!

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100% agree for your comment :).

I feel Jung now. I think many of us think that the most suitable hero/lead actor must be the one who makes the heroine feel comfortable and must be a warm person. But many people ignore that in the reality, there are many ways to show your affection. Jung and Seol couple is the type of the couple that heals each other

One thing that has not been highlighted or shown in this episode if we compare it with the one in the webtoon. In the webtoon version, seol explained and shared the history why she was disappointed to her family and why she felt not wanted in her family. she also recalled on her story with her grandmother. There Jung tried to comfort her a lot saying that she is important to him.

Unfortunately, the drama version didn't do it here,,I think,,,since I hope they still put this important moment to Seol and Jung moment in the drama hopefully in tonight's show. Since that moment can be the moment of a truth and understanding of each other

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I actually was wondering about that as well.. Like in the drama, after that dramatic hug, they ate hotdogs, slept.. and it was morning already. No discussion on what happened for her to be that desolate?

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What's funny is that in the webtoon they did have a conversation about why she's like that but I think they didn't add this to the drama to add impact to the last scene.

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@Heart matters - true. I loved how in the webtoon, their relationship was slowly growing as they started opening up to each other. Here it seems like the just fight-make up-fight-make up.

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Thank you Petra, for saying what I wanted to say. My heart really breaks for Jung, as you said in the office where he started to show his emotion, and then had to forced his smile back and when he looked around he feels all eyes are on him. Even though, that they may be not but can you imagine living your live like that? Always on guard, afraid that your behavior gets reported to your very own daddy, who does not appreciate you as you are, no matter what you do.

And the scene with the Baek siblings' really put my blood boiling. Really?
If you have so much sympathy for In Ho, can you imagine, being a very introvert child and then these children coming, in your life, with their loud, pompous extrovert selves, and took away what's little of yours, and see in your very own eyes, that your dad is actually capable of being a parent, with other children. I am extremely introvert and I need my space, I would feel suffocated when people like Baek siblings' invade my very own place. I weep for Jung, and not many seems to able to understand how difficult it is for an introvert to express themselves. It is so much easier to be around extroverts, I get it, but just because the personality differences, all fault and dark side is on Jung's.

It really irritates me so much too their lack of communication, Seol once said that Jung never speak anything unless he is forced to, then he will speak honestly, but before that he would never say anything, doesn't it also apply to you, Seol-ah? Lovers need not to report everything to their love one, but when you both commit to not left one another in the dark, and you keep doing it, you are not without fault here.
I see that Jung's jealousy is much deeper than a jealousy from a man to his gf's closeness to another man, it's a jealousy that build up on a good fact that In Ho did took away his dad's attention. and isn't it only lately that In Ho's character developed to be hard working? He used to live his life as he wish, without thinking much of a future. He is new in the hardworking department.
I really do not see the future on Seol and Jung's relationship when they have this big of a communication problem. That is the basic of each working relationship. They communicate with each other, so far they have been working on the other end of the relationship. They strive to overcome the differences, but not through communication, just by letting it go. Gosh, did I write much?

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Same I don't see how a relationship will benefit Seol and Jung. What Jung needs is someone to easily recognize his flaws and work around them. In essence, he needs someone who can control him in the way HE wants. A bit confusing but I think the only way for Jung to be in a healthy relationship is if his partner takes the lead and approaches situations while having Jung's thought process in mind. That doesn't mean Jung's gonna do whatever he feels like, but he's gonna take the steps necessary that seem the most logical even to himself to move in a positive direction. Seol and Inho actually have beneficial aspects if they were to get together but at the end of the day, it feels like Inho doesn't need Seol specifically, at least in the near future. Seol needs someone with qualities from both Jung and Inho but Inho just needs someone else whom he can trust to keep him on the right path. In both of these relationships, the characters are being held back so I don't see how this helps any of them develop significantly as individuals. It's pretty obvious that Jung and Seol are going to end up together and Inho is going to fall into 2nd lead status by the end but I wish this wouldn't happen. Perhaps if the drama could have the characters settle their personal conflicts to establish a pairing. In the end though, I feel like Seol and Inho would be a better relationship but for now Jung needs Seol before he goes off in a really bad direction.

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I sort of get what you mean about Jung needing someone who controls him the way he wants, but I also think it's a dangerous position to be in with a person like Jung. Any sense of another person controlling him has the potential to work out very badly; he can outfox pretty much anyone other than himself, and the whole thing would be something like a mind game Jung is playing with himself. I don't want Jung playing games with himself - for him in particular I don't think it's healthy.

I think the key to Jung is more reward-based. The way he threw himself back on the bed with the widest, happiest smile when Seol nodded that they could see each other again - I think that's the best possible motivator for Jung. If the two of them can work out a system where Seol is the moral compass and Jung gradually modifies his behavior because of the reward of her approval, that's great. If that goes hand in hand with Seol picking up some of Jung's more confident/assertive traits, all the better. And all that can ever go wrong is Seol not rewarding Jung for good behavior, which I think is less risky that an artificial control.

I can't really see In Ho as anything other than Seol's brother - a fantastic one, but still a brother.

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Gosh so glad I'm not the only one feeling angry watching this episode. So much feel for Jung for feeling left out. And the one person he cares for can't even tell him the truth. That must really hurt his heart! Sorry, but so annoying wit all the In Ho scenes. I get he is a good guy but we have beem lacking the Seol/Jung cuteness.!!

I had to rewatch their scenes a couple time to get my fill in. And seem like next episode were not going to get much more:/

I hope the drama doesn't drag this Inho crush so far!! It's tiring!

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You're forgetting that jung broke seols trust many times. She's going to have trust issues with jung because he's an expert at keeping things from her. Also what happened to jung trying to meet Seol halfway, he is still at it, playing his twisted games and this time using In-ha to do it. He knows that Seol is uncomfortable about the In-ha situation, he still thinks if she doesn't know it won't hurt her. He hasn't changed enough for my liking. Also how he pushed Seol away at the end of the episode instead of talking to her about his feelings, felt like he was taking his feelings out on her. Not cool jung, she already has an pig for a dad, numerous stalkers to juggle and money and school stress. Spare a thought tobother peoples feelings Jung NOT just your own.

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Every time Jung is honest with her, what happens? Seol blows up at him and they almost break up. On the other hand whenever he asks her if anything important happened, what happens? Seol lies (sometimes by omission but still an obvious decision NOT to tell the truth).

I don't think this puts either of them in the right. Just saying.

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True on what you are saying Rainerust, their relationship has been quite rocky, but whenever you see them together, you can see they fell for each other, so I think they really need to work on their issues to keep the relationships going.

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can you imagine, being a very introvert child and then these children coming, in your life, with their loud, pompous extrovert selves, and took away what’s little of yours, and see in your very own eyes, that your dad is actually capable of being a parent, with other children.

I don't even have to imagine it - only the kids in my case were my cousins who'd recently lost their father, and my parents became de facto additional parents to them.

Only in my case, I was lucky that it lasted only for two years, and that my parents weren't assholes like Jung's dad.

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Thank you!

I was always in the jung camp simply because he was the most interesting character on the show .... but now, with the writing being so biased towards inho (why???) , I can totally empathize with jung ...

.. And whats with people calling him psychopath, vindictive, jealous, controlling nonsense ... How does he control seol - the guy literally asked her if it was ok to call her ... and was as giddy as a child when she said yes ... I'll say it again - he is the one who is more emotionally vested in this relationship than seol

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I still think Jung's all sorts of screwed up morally (amoral?) but I agree that he's more invested than Seol is. And I think we got a good insight into why in this episode: Jung is kind of aware that he's got a very limited number of people in the world he can relate to. Meanwhile Seol is solitary mostly by choice, and has a bunch of people in orbit around her who would either like to be her friend or are already her inner circle.

So for Jung, she's a lifeline. He's surprised they work as well as they do, and delighted, but only now is he beginning to realize that even when he goes all-out he could still lose it all to someone more charismatic.

In Ho, meanwhile, is about to step on a landmine that he's been dancing around since the start. He still makes me think that he love/hates Jung - he can't help himself from staying nearby just in case one day Jung decides they can be friends again. And I don't for a second think he'd pick Seol over Jung if he had a chance to be Jung's friend again - although Seol is a sunbeam in his life, Jung is like the tide. (Not that he'd give Seol up entirely - just that I think he knows Jung well enough to realize the same stakes Jung has.)

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spot-on, re: Jung having very few people in his life he can actually trust, and Seol having way more by way of friendships. (Bora and Eun-taek acting as human shields to keep Young-gon away from Seol without making it obvious to her, was a nice way to drive it home that even without Jung, Seol still has friends who'd be willing to lay down their lives for her if she let them).

And while Seol has friends, Jung has....allies. In-ho was probably the last actual friend he had, but that's long gone and it'll take a lot of hard work before it returns.

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To me the saddest is that inconsciously, Seol is acting the same to Jung as her family to her. He looks perfect so she expects nothing but perfection from him. The way her parents are to Joon is the way she is to Inho. In a way i find her a bit hypocrit and careless .. She complains about how people see her and treat her but she does exactly the same too Jung and she doesn't seem to be aware of it. I am sad for Jung, because even if he is not all perfect he really tries hard to relax, to be more honest , open and to learn more from her. On the otherside Seol never tried to know why he is the way he his, she doesn't involve him in her life (friends, family and all) and she keeps looots of thing from him..
At first i thought Jung was a weird character, but he is just so scarred that he now has huge confidence and trust issues and nobody is even trying to help or understand him..

Sad :(

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Gahh!! Totally agree with you on everything but most especially on your view on the Inho-Jung issue. Also, I get where the pro Inho people are coming from, poor In Ho, lost and everything. And that Jung should just get over it because they are just friends etc.. but, I don't know, maybe I'm the only one who thinks that, despite In Ho liking her, maybe he should also first respect her and know his boundaries? Or does he really not see that he's causing problems for the couple? I mean, for all his sensitivity, can't he see that he's making matters worse for Jung and Seol?

Also, I hope Seol tries to understand Jung's side regarding In Ho. She even got jealous seeing that Jung-In Ha picture. She definitely knows that feeling. Much more, she knows that there's something much deeper to the Jung-In Ho rift. She should also be mindful of Jung's feelings.. And hopefully, both of them can start opening up to each other. This is the only way for them to resolve things and to get over the miscommunication.

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Exactly!!!
And about the Inho/Seol relationship... Well i don't think it is a healthy one.. She might feel comfortable around him but he takes a lot without her noticing: friends, family, school ..
Inho is everywhere and she doesnt see it yet but knowing the character soon she will feel suffocated, or even jealous .
I think that Inho and Inha history makes of them attention suckers.. They aren't bad person but they tend to invade their surrondings... Seol and Jung are a perfect example ..
The siblings are in survival mode and take everything they need (family, money, attention) or want from people around them. Consciously for Inha and genuinely for Inho...
I dont ship a couple but to me seol jung is a better pair. Being there for each other and trying to fix their insecurities, to improve and to learn how to live in this world. I prefer that to Inho's desperate need to have things even if it means crushing ( unconsciously) others' people feelings..

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I don't remember that bit where In Ho hangs out with Seol to aggravate Jung. That's what his sister thinks, and he goes along 'cos that's just easier.

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I thunk In Ho and Soel as a couple would be so easy as they are now as just friends. That is the difference been friends and a romantic relationship with miscommunication and insecurities. I think it parallels the relationships with parent and child and others. Just like Jung/dad and Soel/parents, their relationships are complicated. Sometimes it is easier when it's not your own parent/child ... There are no expectations.

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#SeolJung always. XD

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Same!!! From the start I want Jung to be with Seol.... But now idk.. I'm feeling more for In Ho

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I loved this episode. It was funny, touching, and sweet.

I'm happy to see Jung and Seol back together. He's so happy when he's with her. Also, I loved when they were in bed together.

They're perfect together. Hopefully, Jung will grow and change as a person. The flashback he had was very telling why he feels the way he does about Inho, as well as some other things that we have yet to see.

I love when Inho was wearing that hoodie. He looked good. Some of the fashion in this show is really nice.

Seol is as lovable as ever too. It's nice that even though she;s still unsure of herself at times, she is growing as a person.

I'm looking forwad to ep. 12.

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Just wanted to add some information about Jung's anger at the end of this episode.

I understand why he was angry, but I also understand why Seol was not forthcoming with the fact that she's tutoring In-ho.

After getting back together, the last thing she wanted to do was bring that up; she knows how Jung can get upset whenever In-ho is mentioned. Seol is very friendly, relaxed, and happy around In-ho because she sees him as an older brother.

I hate seeing when Jung gets like that, but I do understand his reaction to an extent. There is a lack of communication between him and Seol, so things tend to just go wrong all the time.

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seol... how do u expect him(jung) to change if u did not give him a chance... u always find excuses for not telling jung, anything... aigoooo

it was so sad, seeing him being left out again

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Exactly. It's seol who always caused misunderstanding. She don't trust Jung. Period.

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Urrr, I honestly think it's both of them. Maybe Seol should give him the benefit of the doubt more often but she is right to call him out on things too.

I say this because Jung seems very divorced from his feelings at times. Typical of someone who repressed his feelings to that extent.

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I honestly felt for Jung though. I feel like he's wanted nothing more than an honest open relationship and he's definitely kept his end of that, to his own detriment, but there's always some strange level of reserve between him and seol. Some barrier that isn't coming down despite her emotional breakdown in his arms (such a gorgeous scene, honestly). But that barrier's down with Inho, and he's forced to watch her comfortably talk with him about things they probably discuss everyday that he knows nothing of. Because unlike him, Seol isn't always honest at times (and for good reason at times) and it clearly hurts that she doesn't trust him enough.

And the present has started to mirror Jung's past. He works all day to ensure that no one has cause to insult him for being a chaebol, to the point where he's treated as a pushover by others (both in middle school and in the present). But he comes home to his father happily listening to the Baek siblings' day without caring about his. He's his father's biological son, but his father heaps care onto Inho and Inha and responsibilities onto Yoo Jung. And it's the same with his relationship with Seol. He's her boyfriend, and heaven knows the boy loves her, but she double-thinks everything she says to him while she has no filter with Inho, who at this point is far more a part of her life than Yoo Jung has ever been.

Can't help but feel for him after it all really, he gets so happy around Seol that I wish she'd throw him a bone and talk things out with him. Hopefully next episode!

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if there is a like button i will like your comment like a thousand times.

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Me too!!! Double like your comment!

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it's soooo much true... like your comment too..
that's how I'm feeling when I watch ep.11..

It's like jung already tried to build his relationship with seol, but seol always have many things swirling around her head.. and end up not tell anything to jung..

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me too.. like like 100000000 times.. Jung my poor baby :) Fighting..!!

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Sometimes evil stepbrother is better than a sincere guy like that... at least you can get revenge and not be a bad guy... I know inho didn't mean and jung has issues for being open and father's fault for not noticing still inho shouldn't cross the line...
Seol barely realised she is only seeing jung in her own perspective but she should also see herself from jung perspective. .. a single photo preoccupied her so much and she is so surprised when jung got angry in inho's situation.... when he clearly warned her to stay away from inho...

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I see where you're coming from, but if I were Seol I'd be really worried about confiding in Jung in case he reacted badly to something I were to tell him.

I think this is a large part of the reason she holds back. She knows he sees the world in black and white and she's made it pretty clear she's uncomfortable with his methods for dealing with conflict. Who wouldn't be?

I don't think it's as easy as her just being more open, or fair to say it is only Seol who is at fault.

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im with you. its an issue for BOTH of them. Jung doesnt react well (or honestly) when she shares info with him. and he is also still hiding shit and scheming without her knowledge. plus he's not around, not his fault ofc, but yeah he doesnt get to be around. so she only has inho and her bffs bora-euntaek. and inho can so easily mesh with them and her family. i mean i think seol feels like inho is an extension of her family so its easy to tell him things, and she doesnt have to double think anything she says to him cuz the dude is impulsive and open to a fault almost. so yeah its easy as heck to deal with him in comparison to jung. but its obv who SHE loves and feels more connected to on a much deeper level.
they need to talk MORE but the thing is it already says alot that they can feel this strongly about each other even when talking very little.

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they need to talk MORE but the thing is it already says alot that they can feel this strongly about each other even when talking very little.

I never thought of the above and it is true. Heh.

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i would really love it if she would share something with him and then maybe the two could talk it out and come to some kind of agreement on how to handle it. how will she know how he'll react if she never tries. also jung does have control. he doesn't go off on everyone (he did nothing to san chul) and if they discussed it and reached and agreement. he is a man who would stand by his words (he stood by the agreement he and TA Heo brokered for him not to say anything about stealing his money and credit cards if TA Heo would do him some favors every now and again. TA Heo broke that first by telling seol). he's also been pretty civil towards inho because he is someone seol cares about. i am sure if they talked about it, he would hold up his end of and then if he doesn't. girl dump him. but you gotta give him a chance to prove you right or wrong. but i do get her and the point of this comment.

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yeah i felt rly bad for jung too. like this exceeded run of the mill petty jealousy. even if she has no feelings for In Ho "in that way" he clearly is way more involved in her personal life than Jung is. and that has to sting, even before u factor in his past issues :(

and tbh i think the barrier between jungseol is they are both guarded and introverted individuals. and basically until the other shoe drops so to speak, they will continue to go in circles like this. I dont blame seol tbh, and the thing is In Ho IS a person u can feel more comfortable and open with in general. Like imo it's not just Seol. and in the right environment he can easily make friends, find love and is p much adopted by Seol's family at this point.
The thing is Jung is very surface nice, u dont need to see he has a darkness to him to feel some of the aloofness that comes off him in waves. but yeah, inho and inha got along with jung's dad so well that he prob felt like a stranger in his own home. Like even if he knows Seol doesnt or wont love In Ho, her family does and I'm not surprised he lost his shit over it. Albeit his version of that is going cold as ice and leaving. i was like NOOOO THIS IS NOT THE WAY. U JUST MADE UP *rips hair out*

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And could I point out that he did not just leave?

I thought it was important that he apologizes first and then leaves. To me, that said he felt kinda bad about how he felt (while he couldn't help it).

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Yes, he clearly KNEW this was something he had to deal with himself and he didn't want to make a big issue out of it in public - he needed some time to walk away and calm down. Personally I thought he behaved really well here. I'm not sure I would have been that calm. I might have been flipping tables haha.

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Ha! I should've scrolled down further before I went on my own rant above. Lol.

Glad I wasn't the only one who saw it that way.

I was EXTREMELY frustrated with Seol in this episode. So many chances to say the things she needs to say to Jung. :/

She doesn't want to ruin the mood? O.o I get that somewhat but isn't this a pattern with Seol, making excuses not to open up? We see it in her other relationships too (Bora, parents, loonies...) I guess that's why I saw Jung as more invested in the relationship. But he doesn't know how to change (he's not allowed to wear his feelings on his sleeve) and she's not helping by holding back.

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exactly, it's a thing Seol does that isn't exclusive to Jung - the blowup at Bora in episode 3 after not telling her anything about what was on her mind, followed a very similar pattern.

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If I could +1000 to your comment I would!

The sad thing is, you can see them emotionally connecting cos they light up so MUCH when they see each other (it's so heartwrenching!) and they're so genuinely giddy with each other (hello bed scene) but...

The sad thing is I understand why she holds some info back from him (oh he's going to react badly, oh it would be better if he doesn't know) and he does the same with her now (oh she gets mad anyway if she knows, so might as well don't tell her), and it's sooooo frustrating watching the both of them keep these things from the other that you KNOW is going to blow up in their faces in a while!

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Aww, I just hope that the payoff, when this great big wall between them crumbles, it will be THAT satisfying! To appease our poor hearts.

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I wish I could like this comment.

+10000. I have been in Jung's place in both home and a relationship so everything he went through today. I understood and felt for him and where he was coming from.

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Ah sorry. I am Joon.
(Except grades came naturally to me.)

My older brother got way too much stress. But he also had high expectations of me, in turn.

He once asked me how come I seemed to be able to get ppl to listen to me. It was a sad moment.

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I don't want to be a troll or hurt anybody's feelings but I'm very inspired by Seol and just wish to point out that I read pretty much the Exact words (opinion) on unstoppablesun.com. This may seem like an unnecessary, negative comment on an otherwise lively kdrama discussion thread but I just haaad to point that out because I love both websites so!

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Omg are you nobodybutkyu? (Clicked your website link) Sorry for the previous comment. I thought it was someone else just making off with your opinions and thoughts. Love your reviews!

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I am! :D Thank you so much! You seriously made my day <3

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The one thing I have to remember with them is that while Seol hasn't been open with Jung, he hasn't been open with her either. He's pretty open and obvious about the way he feels about her, but the rest of his life is a mystery.

She's not asking, and he's not telling, but I also wonder if he's not asking and she's not telling - basically they're mirroring each other and assuming that's a comfort zone thing, when actually one of them just has to go first. Either one of them has to ask persistently (Seol almost got there with the In Ha questions), or has to start talking without being asked.

They're two very self-sufficient people. It can be a massive handicap when dating.

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I really like your comment! Yeah, I've always seen both Seol and Jung as two ppl who are used to being very independent and relying on themselves. Seol has a pretty healthy circle of friends that Jung lacks, but both like to work out their inner thoughts and troubles by themselves. It can be pretty terrifying to move from that to relying on another person -- you have to put yourself out there, and it's easy to not take the risk and just keep the waters smooth. Add in the self consciousness, emotions and hormones involved in dating...
I'm not surprised they're running into so many bumps.

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I agree, re: the mirroring thing and their emotional self-sufficiency being a handicap when they're dating, because each of them tends to try not to burden the other person.

But it's glorious in ways that no Baek In-ho cuteness can even scratch the surface of, when Jung and Seol do let it go and rely on each other. I wish they'd take a cue from that and not just reset to trying to keep things perfect on the surface.

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I was hoping that when they got back together it would be with the caveat that they would start trying to honest and talk openly with each other, even or in their case especially when they think what they have to say the other person isn't going to like.

I was really enjoying In Ho and Soel's friendship but his crush just undermines it. Jung's jealousy and insecurities would still be stirred up even if it was 100% platonic on both their parts.

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I would be enjoying this so much more if the friendship remained platonic...because now it feels like the pressures are external rather than internal. Ugh.

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????true.right now i can't help rethinking everything we thought about Jung.the scene where jung walks away while in ho is being beaten for example, i believe they deliberately misled us sigh.. I feel for inho just a bit but i wish he'd disappear from their relationship. You can have dad not Seol

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I feel bad for Jung, but I do not think he has always been forthcoming with Seol. He's done a lot of things behind her back without telling her.

Most of his actions have been misunderstood, but I feel like Seol has a hard time figuring him out. Also, they just got back together and I don't think she wanted to bring up the tutoring with In-ho. She knows Jung and In-ho hate each other and the last thing she wants to her is a warning to stay away from him and all of that.

She was wrong for not telling Jung because now it's going to cause issues between them. I hope the two of them learn to communicate better. They both have their faults.

I know why Jung was so upset, especially when he had that flashback which showed us that why he feels the way he does about the Baek siblings.

However, I understand Seol as well. To me, both of their feelings and reactions were valid.

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Man, I missed this show. Love love love...

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Yeah me too...
Ps . Where can I find a perfect guy with perfect timing who negotiates with kisses...

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Well.. can you blame the guy for being jealous, I'd probably be jealous too no matter if I already have a history together.

It's easy to feel left out in that kind of situation!

I think the whole In-Ha situation was initiated by her, she was the one in the previous episode saying to Jung "I'll take care of this guy". It's easy for her to then negotiate some kind of reward for it since she basically caused the whole situation by sending those encouraging texts to mr Stalker.

I really like In Ho gradual realisation of his feelings, though I'm sad it has to come to a triangle.

We need to move faster to bring those old wounds out and know what actually happened! I think in the preview it shows that we're going to get some of that.

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About the In-ha scene...

Did anyone else notice how quickly she pounced on Young Gon when he raised his hand to hit Da Young?

I definitely think that she was planning to confront him anyway, but given In-ha's history as an abuse victim, I kind of wonder if she was stepping in a little bit on Da Young behalf.

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Ditto! The cut to In-Ha's change of expression when Young Gon raised his hand at Da Young seemed intentional to me.

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Same here! It was a brilliant quick cut and I like that they didn't emphasize it with a flashback or anything but trusted the viewer's intelligence enough to put it together. I like to think that was the reason Inha beat Young Gon up so badly.

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i like to think that she got EXTRA vicious with that in mind. but she's not exactly soft n sweet to begin with. i dont doubt she was gonna go HAM on him regardless but she def made sure to get his face extra haha. damn that cray girl does grow on you doesnt she?
lol im also kind of amazed she even managed to con Jung of all ppl and take the heat of herself and put it on her brother. dirty and wrong but...effective! lol

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Lol, she's growing on me too. I can't help but want to set In-Ha on anyone who messes with Seol or Jung (or anyone else we care about, for that matter) from now on. Sweet retribution!

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I LOVE Baek In-ha, she's batshit insane, avaricious and possibly amoral, but her as a loose cannon just makes everything 10x more interesting.

She's just what this drama needs to keep things from getting too dark or heavy, and the beatdown of Young-gon was absolutely glorious.

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-seeing the sibling conflict in this episode and comparing it to In Ha and In Ho, maybe Seol and Jun can influence them positively, but that's probably too much to hope for
-someone here theorized that Jung's dad had people reporting on him when he was younger, contributing to his mistrust of people. Was that confirmed or what in the creepy office scene where everyone's watching him!?; then again maybe Jung is just paranoid. Unreliable narration in this series always keeps me on my toes, part of why I love it
-positive hold over from Lee Sung Kyung's career as a model: In Ha's amazing strut
-I hope In Ho has a full fledged modeling career by the end of this, but I'll take concert pianist as well

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In Ho gets noticed on the street while passing out advertisements by a talent agent who offers him a modeling contract. He starts his career on the runway and eventually breaks into the movie business by taking on small roles until his portrayal of a misunderstood, wounded second lead in a hit drama pushes him into the forefront of young Hallyu. His friends, Kwangsoo and Siwan are with him along the way to fame. Boom. Entourage.

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I am such a gullible idiot! lol You totally got me until "portrayal of a misunderstood, wounded second lead in a hit drama", then my slow ass had to go back and read your comment again. Love the meta-inception-alternate reality ending to In-Ho's story, lol

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It would be so awesome if tvn really went for the "meta-inception" and reference Cheese in the Trap in Entourage. Oh gosh this remake really needs to pull through with the casting because I already have my heart set on everyone.

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That cry when Seol went to Jung's arm, ugh! I choked a bit too, cause that sound of cry is coming from pure pain. The kind where you'll know when you've done some yourself. Great acting!

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It was so good!

I'm very much not a fan of Jung, but that scene made me so happy for Seol, and for Jung too.

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I agree jung is not healthy relationship material. Seol rocked it, standing up to her parents BS was awesome

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Kim Go-eun is such a great actress, been touched by her countless times in this drama!

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yeah, that scene....perfectly played by both Kim Go-eun and Park Hae-jin, but especially her. That distress looked and felt real.

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Amazeballs.

One word.

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The Oppa Scene on the subway had me cackling with glee and rewinding multiple times. Watching In-ho turn to jelly, and Seol "oppa-ing" him so teasingly was TOO adorbs.

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And still i'm hating In No more and more for it

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Haha, whey?

It was the best example I've ever seen in a drama of the "Oppa effect", where a girl using oppa with a guy turns him into a pile of jelly.

Girlfriday and javabeans described the effect really well in their glossary entry for the word "oppa" (http://www.dramabeans.com/2010/06/glossary-oppa/), but I'd never seen it in action as prominently as in this scene, and it made me snarf liquid through my nose as I watched it. ^_^

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It's an extremely loaded term.

Does Seol mean Oppa in the older boy sense or does she mean he is like a brother or is he like a love interest (I think not)?

Contrast that with how Seol still calls Jung Sunbae instead of Oppa. I think she got used to Sunbae and its cute.

Personally, I really hate how Oppa is now applied to boyfriends and such.

First time I heard my eventual sister in law call my blood brother that, I had an urge to slap her. And I like her. *Loaded term.*

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Oh yeah, I know it's definitely a loaded term.

I just thought the whole thing was hilarious because Seol was so very obviously doing it to tease him. She wasn't trying to incite anything romantic at all, but it seems she's WELL aware of the effect that the term has on Korean men. The funniest bit to me in the whole thing was that both she and In-ho KNOW that she's not using it "boyfriend-style" (even though he would secretly love it if she did).

I just thought it was a jokey, very self-aware take on both their parts of how "oppa" can be wielded with so much power. In-ho plays it off like he's a guy who is onto that con and is too aloof to fall for it, but we as the viewers know that there's a not-so-small part of him that loved it. That's where the humor lay, for me.

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Every time I start to think that Jung and Seol can't work... The show puts them together in a scene and the screen lights up with chemistry (for me atleast) and then the sane part of my brain shuts off and swoons... A lot!

How amazing were the emotions on the faces of Park Hae-jin and Kim Go-eun when they saw each other after she ran away from home? That made my evening!

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right? dat CHEMISTRY. tbh i am still not getting second lead syndrome. i adore In Ho. like adore him! but not seeing the heat with him and Seol. it is very very platonic on her end. and even when he's crushing, it feels so puppy sweet haha.

but like omg the way Jung was looking at her in the bed scene...im amazed she could get herself to leave XD i dont even have anything for like PHJ or his looks. I'm indifferent to him, but when he's being swoony as YJ with Seol. I kiss my rational mind goodbye and go to giggly school girl land. so shameful. but yeah i can feel with Seol's conflict there. like she cant trust him, she feels like shit is too awk but she clearly cant stop thinking of him or bring herself to break it off. and the more I see them together, the more i totally feel with her tbh. like i said this upthread but imo they have a connection that goes beyond words. but the problem is for a relationship to flourish and last you DO need to communicate alot. but i can see why she didnt spill all her troubles to him when they met up again. she clearly just felt at peace being with him period. i'm like ;_;

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I'm exactly the same!
Coming into this I really liked Seo Kang Joon and I also was completely indifferent to PHJ/his looks, so I expected to be on second lead syndrome too.... But he (and KGE) are brilliant here. Been giggling for an hour now. And it is certainly shameful :)

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Same! Thank goodness this show has great actors!

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This drama gives me one of the worst cases of Second Lead Syndrome EVER. As someone who has had a long relationship with a person I loved but never felt 100% relaxed around vs. a relationship with someone who is also my best friend, I can say though no matter how much one loves the first kind it cannot work in the long run. How can Seol ever be happy with Jung if she can't be honest and relaxed around him? I'm team In Ho all the way!

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why is seol so much cuter with inho? it's so confusing. the oppa part had me dying. lol. he brings out her cheeky side. it's cute.
still loved the jung-seol kiss tho

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Damn'it that was very long weeks for this episode, but I'm little disappointed with this episode, to much In-Ho story, its just like the director force us to give the ship for In Ho instead Jung sunbae.

Why In-Ho character so soft, kind, heartwarming in this show, it is very different character based on the webtoon which more 'ruthless', selfish, etc.

Thats why many people ship In Ho-Seol but I'm still on Team Jung sunbae, he just need a catalyst for his emotion to be melted, and the catalyst is Hong Seol. no one else!

This episode saved by Jung-Seol hug scene, Jung-Seol bed scene (worth for 2 weeks torture) and then fighting scene between In-ha, Da Young and Yong Gon.

Hong Seol - Yo Jung, no one else!

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totally agreed with you... too much In-Ho. Who's the male lead here?

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as much as I adore In Ho. I have been feeling this alot as well. We dont have much eps left. and there's alot with Jung that needs to be settled and cleared up. and yeah they are def using him sparingly to keep up the "mystery" but its not good when he starts to feel like he's a secondary player in the story. i was fine with it for the first 6 eps but after it started to feel very conspicuous. at this point enough mystery, idc how it was in the comic, we need more development and scenes with the main couple. like their relationship is the most interesting thing to me abotu the drama. i like all the other stuff, which is a testament to the writing and acting but enough now. hopefully the final 4 eps AT LEAST are jungseol focused.

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Lol guys..this drama is just like a trailer.While the webtoon is like four seasons long...so you cannot just come to a conclusion how the chapters fold up in this drama yeah.

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If only they hadn't gone and stuck In-ho as the witness to that scene where Jung finds Seol and she runs to him, honestly, I don't know what purpose it serves to have him constantly around on the sidelines to witness every other thing about Jung and Seol's relationship.

I know Seo Kang-joon is really likable in this role, but he feels engineered to be the perfect second lead (compared to cold, perfect, manipulative Jung) and is just taking up a disproportionate amount of screen time.

Like it feels like Jung is a manipulative character, but the story is being manipulative in forcing us to see In-ho as this perfect wounded puppy who would be so perfect with Seol if she didn't only see him as a friend and nothing else. And while I like the actor and the performance, I do not enjoy him being basically forced down our throats all the time in some garden-variety love triangle.

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I was really, REALLY frustrated. Kind of sick of the seesaw, honestly.

If they want to make Inho the endgame, they need to move things in that direction. If not, they should give us more of Jung and focus on what made him the way he is (and hopefully show us some more positive growth.)

I actually liked Inho as a character (though I thought he was more interesting and layered as something other than a talented fluff bunny ala webtoon Inho) until now.

I'm fed up with his screen time.

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+1000 with this. I want to watch Jung and Seol's development, as a person in committed relationship, and their life. I want to see that, not some cheap love triangle. We have seen that thousands of times in another Kdrama, I am fed up that the writer really pushing the love triangle angle. Seriously, can we now move on to our two main leads?

Thank you.

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