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Cheese in the Trap: Episode 15

Man, I go away for one week and Cheese implodes. I don’t know if it’s due to recent controversy over Park Hae-jin’s airtime, but at least the focus is back on Jung in this episode. Perhaps it’s too little, too late, but at this point with one more episode left to wrap up our story, I’ll take what I can get, even if things do go a little crazy.

 
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EPISODE 15 RECAP

In the aftermath of Jung’s revenge against bully sunbae Sang-chul, Seol tells Jung that she understands why he did it. She says she can’t judge him because she’s felt the same way towards Sang-chul herself, and knows that he did all this for her.

He takes her hand quietly, and Seol says, “At one point, I began to think, ‘It’s okay as long as Sunbae isn’t like that to me.’ But you know that hurting someone means that it’ll come back to you. I’d like it if you didn’t do that to other people. You’re such a good person to me—you could be that way with other people too, yes?”

So glad she finally said it point-blank. He doesn’t answer, but gives her the faintest little smile.

In-ha gleefully takes credit for letting Seol know about the whole Sang-chul scheme, and tells Jung that this is what happens when she opens her mouth. She’s expecting some kind of reaction from him, and when she doesn’t get one, she calls to try and speak to Jung’s father.

Sang-chul gets woken up early in the morning and rushes into work, surprised that the small company he initially interviewed with is willing to take him back. His sunbae there assures him that he covered for his absence the other day, and mentions that he didn’t know Sang-chul had a connection to Taerang Group. Neither did Sang-chul.

The gossip mill at school is already churning with the news of Jung’s chaebol background, and mean girl Da-young is especially catty about it to Seol, openly accusing her of approaching Jung because she knew he was rich.

Everyone’s heard about Sang-chul as well, and Bora says strangers have been coming up to her all day asking about Seol and Jung. Seol tries not to let it get to her, and her friends promise to act normal around Jung so that he doesn’t find out how much people are gossiping about him at school. Seol stops in her tracks when she notices Bora and Eun-taek wearing couple rings, and says they should’ve started dating eons ago.

Jung isn’t able to escape the gossip mill anyway because news has already spread at work that he’s the chairman’s son. Immediately women begin to sidle up to him with lunch invitations, and sunbaes bring him coffee to ask for favors. Sigh.

When Seol sees In-ho approaching across the street, she instinctively hides… then remembers his request to be normal for just a month. She tells herself that he’s more uncomfortable than she is, and runs up to him with a slap on the back. He’s shocked at first but they return to their old banter in no time, and In-ho tacks on a little “Thanks.” Aw.

Seol arrives at school to find Jung surrounded by their classmates, who are only too happy to fawn over him in person. She quickly interrupts to take Jung away by the arm, but Sang-chul comes up wanting to speak to Jung in private.

Sang-chul knows that Jung had Taerang make a deal with his new company on the terms that they’d re-hire him, but Sang-chul says it’s not exactly a thing he can be grateful for. Jung doesn’t seem all that interested in the conversation, but Sang-chul makes an impact when he tells Jung that everyone can see through his façade, and that he doesn’t hide everything as well as he thinks he does.

Sang-chul tells him that everyone knows how Jung sees them and judges them: “You’re not the only one who’s seen us; we’ve seen you too. So don’t just put up walls and look down on people. Because among those people are some who sincerely wanted to be friends with you.” Sang-chul figures they won’t be seeing each other again, and says he’s sorry before walking away.

On their way home that night, Seol mentions her relief that Sang-chul was re-hired at his company, and Jung says nothing about having made it happen. He asks if she’ll go on a trip with him during her break since they’ll both be busier when she’s a senior, and Seol agrees happily. He worries about her getting permission to stay out overnight, but she says everyone just lies about that stuff to parents.

When they reach her house, Seol asks to see Jung’s hand, and takes out a ring to put on his finger. She squeezes it on and beams when it fits, and says in her adorable rambling way that they’ve been dating for six months and he hasn’t even bought her a ring, so she just went and bought them herself. That’s so cute.

She shows off the matching couple ring that she’s already wearing, and he lights up. He doesn’t say anything though, so she starts to get nervous, but he says it’s just because he’s so thankful. He asks what he should get for her, and she just asks him never to take it off or lose it.

Then she looks around furtively before planting a kiss on his lips and runs off before he can even react. Jung just sits in his car smiling at his ring and looking the happiest I’ve ever seen him.

The next morning, In-ho wonders why In-ha is dressing up so nicely like she’s going on an interview, and she says it’s something close to that. She’s really headed to see Jung’s father, probably to do something regrettable.

In-ho goes to practice in the auditorium today, which his teacher borrowed for an hour at his request. His hand continues to bother him though, and when he pauses, his teacher’s other student claps. He says that he looks up to In-ho, and mentions that he’ll be on the judge panel for the competition. He notices In-ho’s hand but leaves quickly to let him practice.

In-ho’s hand is bothering him enough that he finally goes to see the doctor about it. The doc says that the metal pin they put in his hand has an infection, and asks if he’s gotten any cuts or scrapes recently. The fight with Jung flashes through In-ho’s mind.

The doc says it’s an easy fix with a quick surgery, and he’ll be back to normal. Except he’ll need two month’s recovery time after the surgery, and until then, he’s not to strain his hand. Augh, nothing ever goes right for this guy.

In-ho goes to the library to gaze at Seol from far away, and he’s immediately in better spirits at the sight of her. He chuckles to see her falling asleep, and when she gets up to go get coffee, she finds a coffee already waiting at her seat.

In-ha goes to Chairman Yoo as planned and tells him all about Jung’s new girlfriend, acting like a worried friend. She says that Seol approached Jung knowing about his wealth, and that the recent events surrounding Sang-chul were at Seol’s request. You evil troll.

Jung spots In-ha leaving the building, and soon after he gets called up to see Dad, who’s bought In-ha’s version of the story hook, line, and sinker. He doesn’t even bother trying to hear Jung’s side, and tells him to break things off with his girlfriend and prepare to go work for the Europe office soon. Ack, no!

Jung knows right away that this was In-ha’s doing, but Dad refuses to believe Jung, thinking that Seol is the reason that he’s been talking back and giving him attitude lately. He says that the launch party for their cosmetics brand will be the last thing he does before being transferred abroad.

This takes us to a flashback to Jung’s childhood, where he was at a party with Mom and Dad. He’d made a little girl cry by pushing her, and Dad scolded him for retaliating and making a public scene. Jung was told to smile in front of people no matter what, and go play with the girl.

So Jung smiled and offered to play with her like she wanted, but when they got outside, he knowingly passed her a cup of juice that he saw another kid spike with wine.

Jung’s dad had consulted a professor about Jung, worried that he might’ve passed on his anger issues to his son. The professor said that Jung didn’t display any anger, but that worried him more—Jung was expressing his anger in his own quiet way, and if that continued, he would have a hard time making any sincere connections to people. His recommendation was to give Jung siblings. Well that explains why Dad was so eager to adopt In-ho and In-ha.

Back in the present, Jung calls In-ha, temper flaring. He says he’s already let things slide once before, but In-ha says she interpreted that as him letting her continue. He says he’s out of patience with her, but she retorts that she’s long been out of patience too, and says she’ll see him at the launch party. Later that night, Jung calls a coworker to add some names to the party invitation list.

Seol sees her brother Joon just lying around in bed looking depressed and wondering what to do with his life. She tells him to think about what he wants to do after college instead of what he wants to study, and reminds him that he’s smart and talented, and needs to find his dream instead of just following Dad’s dreams.

Joon heads to campus looking for Ah-young, and when he sees her with a few art sunbaes, he introduces himself as her boyfriend. It doesn’t really help his self-esteem when she’s busy working on an exhibition, and he’s just killing time doing nothing. He can’t even bring himself to ask her to the movies and shoves the tickets back in his pocket.

In-ha gets all dressed up for the launch party and balks when Nerdy picks her up in a small domestic car, muttering to herself that she thought he was richer than this. He asks how she knows Jung, and she tells him they grew up together and the chairman thinks of her as his daughter.

When she walks into the party, Jung is surprisingly pleasant. In-ha sighs happily and says this is where they belong. She figures that Jung got into a lot of trouble with Dad and offers to smooth things over, saying that the chairman will melt with one word from her.

One of In-ha’s exes walks up to her and wonders how she got into such an exclusive party, asking what sucker she’s lured this time. She scoffs that he’s too high up for the son of a middling company like him to touch, and that’s when another ex walks up. The two guys know each other, and Second Ex says he played with her for a while because she was pretty, but she didn’t know her place. First Ex asks how many men she’s seduced for money, and In-ha throws her drink in his face.

They each grab her by an arm and demand an apology, creating a huge scene. She shouts, “Do you know who I am? I’m Taerang Group Chairman Yoo’s daughter! You’re the ones that don’t know your place!”

But as she’s saying it, Chairman Yoo orders the security team to escort her out, and doesn’t even glance her way as she’s dragged out of the party screaming, “Ajusshi! Ajusshi!” Jung just sits back at his table and watches with a satisfied look on his face, and In-ha gasps when she sees her two exes walk up and thank Jung for the unexpected invite.

In-ho is shocked when he comes home to find In-ha sprawled out on the floor, looking like something out of a Tim Burton movie. She looks like she’s not all there, and all she can mutter is that she’s going to kill Jung.

Jung leaves the party to take Seol home from school, and they’re both giddy with excitement over their trip tomorrow, after her last exam. Seol says she told her parents she’d be with Bora, and Jung laughs and asks what they would’ve done without Bora. They adorably hold hands and Jung gives her hand a little kiss.

In-ha tells In-ho about the party, and still can’t fathom why Chairman Yoo was so cold to her and didn’t say a word. She decides that there must be some sort of explanation and that she’ll go over there to ask him. In-ho stops her and says that they’re just pets to that family, there to play a role and nothing more.

She doesn’t believe him, insisting that Chairman Yoo wouldn’t do that to them. He begs her to snap out of it, finally screaming, “Noona! Please, get it together. I’m begging you. If you’re like this, what am I supposed to do?”

In-ho goes looking for Jung outside his building and demands that he get out of the car. He asks if Jung did this to In-ha because he wouldn’t leave Seol, and offers to get lost like Jung asked, begging him to leave them alone. But Jung asks them to leave him alone, and says that if In-ha mouths off about Seol one more time, he doesn’t know what he’ll do.

In-ho has no response to that, and wonders what his sister did to Seol. In-ha wakes up the next morning to find medicine on her nightstand, and she pauses to look at herself in the mirror. There’s an eerie beat where she starts fixing her hair as she says aloud, “I can’t lose, not like this. Not after what I’ve done to protect it.”

She cleans up and goes to see Chairman Yoo, acting cheery and insisting that this was all a misunderstanding. But he’s firm with her and asks if she didn’t think it would come out eventually if she’s been dating the sons of families they all know. She asks if Jung said that about her, and says defensively, “Don’t trust Jung’s words. You know he’s strange.”

Chairman Yoo flares up at that and asks if that’s how she’s seen Jung all this time, and wonders if she hasn’t been saying these things elsewhere. He calls it a mistake to have brought her and In-ho into this house in the first place, and In-ha is genuinely shocked, having believed all this time that they were considered family.

Chairman Yoo says that’s when he thought they might be of help to Jung, but he doesn’t see why he would take them in when they’re causing more harm than good now. He tells her that it would be best to end their relationship here, and tells her not to call or come by anymore. She leaves the house in a daze, muttering, “I’m going to kill that bastard Yoo Jung.”

Seol finishes her last exam and happily heads off to meet Jung for their overnight trip, and he packs his bag too. But In-ha shows up at his door, pounding at it so hard that she’s probably going to break it down. She eventually does, and stomps in to slap Jung across the face.

He asks how low she plans to go, but she says she’s got nothing else to lose and asks if he really doesn’t know why she’s doing all this. She says he’s acting this way now because of Seol, but In-ha insists that no one knows him like she does, and no one will understand him like she does. Jung: “So what if you understand me—does that mean I have to love you?”

Since when is this even a question? Whatever. He suggests that they not see each other again because that’s best for both of them. At that, she starts trashing his place in a hysterical tantrum, beginning with the picture of Jung and Seol. She screams that he can’t throw her away like this, not after everything she’s done for him.

He literally has her dragged out of his apartment kicking and screaming, and even after being thrown out of the building by security, she throws herself against the door, screaming at the top of her lungs.

Oh noes, Seol chooses that time of all times to come meet Jung at his place, and texts him that she’s on her way as she crosses the street towards his building. In-ha spots her and eerily declares, “I can’t be the only one to lose everything. Yoo Jung, you have to lose too for it to be fair, no?”

In-ha storms over to Seol and pushes her to the ground, saying, “Die. If it weren’t for you… If it weren’t for you!” They struggle, and In-ha pushes Seol so hard that she lands in the street this time.

Thankfully there aren’t any cars nearby, and Seol stands up without too much trouble. But suddenly a car turns onto the street at high speed and rams right into her, and Seol rolls onto the hood and windshield before tumbling back into the street. Aaaaaagh.

Jung gets Seol’s text as he’s about to head out, but then he gets a sinking feeling as the sound of sirens comes closer and closer. He runs out, and down in the street below, blood begins to pool around Seol.

 
COMMENTS

Really, a car accident? Why do we need a car accident? Did we step into a whole new drama in the last ten minutes? I know we’ve had stalkers and copycats and thieves, and I know that In-ha has a screw loose (or three), but I feel like this is a rather hackneyed turn that feels disappointing for Cheese in the Trap. Not that we can’t mine some romantic development and drama out of Seol being hurt; I just think there’s already plenty of conflict that could have existed in Jung and Seol’s relationship without In-ha having to play such a major role in mucking things up for them.

But as the thorn in everyone’s side, I guess we do have to deal with In-ha before wrapping things up, and at least she’s finally being cut off for good and forced to fend for herself. I actually found her as pitiable as she is hateful—at least up until she went completely off her rocker and started pushing people into traffic—because in that moment when Chairman Yoo cut her off and showed his true intentions, she seemed genuinely surprised because she believed she meant more to Jung and his father. In-ho was disillusioned early on, but for all of her nasty behavior, In-ha clearly still believed deep down that she was part of their family. It’s sad, really, not that it justifies any of her insane antics. Mostly I hate Jung’s father more than anyone for creating their messed up relationships in the first place, and for taking away Jung’s ability to trust in people’s intentions. It’s no wonder Jung manipulates every situation to his liking—it’s what his father does and has always done his whole life. And rather than give his son the benefit of the doubt, Dad had decided early on that something was wrong with him and began trusting In-ha’s word over Jung’s. Talk about your warped perspectives.

As much as I dislike Dad, he informs Jung’s character and his motivations, so I’m glad to get the insight into his character, late as it is. There was something so sad about the moment when Sang-chul told Jung that sometimes, the people who approach him genuinely want to be friends. His pattern may have broken with Seol, but Jung probably could’ve had lots of real friends before her if he’d only risked trusting people once in a blue moon. I don’t blame him for being guarded though, since Dad singlehandedly managed to take away his trust in human beings when he planted In-ho and In-ha in his life, made him think they were best friends (which ironically, they were), and then pulled the rug out from under them. I suppose In-ho and Jung are better off for having found out early on, whereas In-ha was fed a delusion for years. (To be clear, she’s still plenty crazy all on her own.)

I just hope there’s a chance of salvaging the bromance between Jung and In-ho that was once very real, even if it means going their separate ways on amicable terms. A renewed friendship would be even better, but I don’t think there’s time for that kind of mending at this point. Besides that relationship needing closure, Jung’s father is the only thing left standing in the way of our couple’s happy ending (which we ARE going to get, so don’t tell me otherwise LALALALALALA). Okay, other than Seol living, of course, but who’s worried about that with one episode left to go? Ultimately I’m disappointed that a couple that had such rich, dynamic conflict early on became so settled and conflict-free for the latter half of the drama, and it’s truly regrettable to see the show rely on clichéd plot turns at the last minute when it began as something so fresh and interesting. I’ll take my happy ending with a side of fries to go, please.

 
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No one in this story is perfect and in fact, some are downright dislikeable at times. But they're characters that evoke a genuine empathy even if they're not the "heros" of the story. Sang-Chul. In-Ha. Except the chairman. His fear of what he didn't want his child to become messed up three kids and scarred them for life. He gets no sympathy from me. I have hope all three of the them will get back up from this. Baek In-Ho and In-Ha especially. Jung is on his way, or at least he was with Seol. I'm worried he'll regress because of Seol's accident. Though based on the themes of the show and his overall journey so far I'm cautiously optimistic he won't. Please don't be a fail, episode 16! *crosses fingers nervously* Lastly, I really hope In Ho and Jung repair their friendship. Deep deep, *DEEP* down they seem to still care for each other. Or at least their mutual care for Seol and subsequent physical proximity to each other again made them look at one another and their past ties again. Hopefully they clear the air fully this time. And my sweet Seol I hope she's ok in the end (I mean she probably will, she's the lead lol) but outside of the physical danger she's in, I hope the show ends with hope for her. Hope for her studies, career path and her relationship with Jung. She's had so many doubts all throughout and even though life is never that easy (heck I STILL don't have everything figured out and I'm almost graduating) I hope she can find some semblance of clarity and satisfaction in regards to her personal dreams.

#teamseolandhappiness #teaminhoandjungmendyourbrokenrelationshipandforgiveeachotherplease
#teaminhastaywithyourpeanutandbecomeanartistagain
#teampleasesaveinhofromthegangsersanddontlethimbedraggeddownthepathofhopelessnessagain
#teamboraandeuntaekforever
#teamhopeseolslittlebrofindshisdream
#teampleasenoonedieorleavepermanently
#exceptjungsdadhecango
Ta! lol

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Agreed. I feel so bad for all 3 children who are no longer children...Inho, Inha and Jung.

We may only be in February but I am Nominating Chairman Yoo for "The Worst Kdrama Dad of the Year 2016."

I was so angry when I saw the things he did this episode. From leaping to conclusions and marginalizing ppl's feelings and repressing Jung...and the cruel way he had Inha thrown out of the banquet and then out of their lives.

And he tells Jung to end it with that girl and is sending him into exile in Europe. Wow. Step out of line in that family and you get sent to exile.

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I would totally vote him as "The Worst KDrama Dad of The Year" even if its a pay vote. ?

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..yeah, i totally agree!

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Yeah, Inha's lot was downright tragic in this episode. Tbh midway through I didn't care much about Seol or Jung because her bad treatment actually eclipsed their story. (Which also is another fault of this drama - Seol's growth isn't all that interesting anymore, maybe because it's not well done anymore.)

But yeah, Jung was absolutely an ass, understandably but an ass nonetheless. His exchange with Inho was probably the meanest. I feel like we forget that Jung actively let years of their friendship crumble over one line on Inho's part - and that level of sensitivity is totally a problem. It's not that he's bad at all, but he's never actually in the right, and I hope the drama doesn't go on forgetting that.

As for the Inho & Inha, I felt for both pretty strongly after each encounter with the chairman/dad who seems way too callous and immature to be a good parent. He was pretty terrible a couple episodes back, but this time was several levels worse...super cold.

And as for the car scene - I dunno. CITT has become enough of a run of the mill drama that it's not super out of place but it's definitely not satisfying. I like it to one extent - it seems like they're making it out like it's Jung's manipulation coming back to bite him. But that doesn't totally hold because it's still really Inha's fault for doing something so insanely unhinged and bad. I suppose we'll see in the next episode!

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really? Jung is the bad guy between all 3 "siblings"?

In-Ho has some seeeerious temper issues ! He never seems to care about having 2 sides to a story, throws his fists (and legs) at everything that moves in a way he doesn't like and is constantly blaming Jung for absolutely everything wrong !!

I mean, who ASKED for the fist fight? In-Ho! and NOW his hand hurts and guess what? I'm almost sure he's gonna blame Jung for that in the last episode. If Jung is unable to open his mouth to properly express himself and explain situations (which is extremely frustrating, if you ask me), well In-Ho is the opposite: verbal diarrhea, with not an ounce of patience to ask anyone else for their true opinion.

yes, In-Ho is cute and all, but oh, he doesn't deserve to be blameless. Jung is messed up for being manipulative but at least he's self-aware and doesn't childishly spend his time blaming others.

karma, folks. karma.

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No, they all have their flaws - but Inho's flaws are more personable. Someone losing their temper or being hotheaded is a flaw sure, but it's not inherently alienating like Jung's flaws are, and that has much more serious implications. It's not that one is cuter than another, it's that one has weightier flaws.

Jung needs something tiny to provoke him - and in that way he's as hotheaded as Inho and more, just much more quietly. (And if we're talking about awareness, Inho's flaws are broadcasted by him, whereas Jung makes his life about covering his flaws up. Between those two, the former is much preferable in almost every way.)

But honestly I'm not pro-Inho anti-Jung or anything - yeah Inho's much more likable and more personable by design, but that doesn't make Jung a worse guy by contrast or make him any less compelling or interesting.

It's just that his 'flaw' is the worst one for me, because it's so damning. It shuts down a relationship in a really cold way - it shows signs of his father in the worst way.

I don't mean Jung is the worst guy, but I think he has one of the most harmful flaws. Inha is a brat of massive proportions too though, and is probably his biggest competition.

But Jung's actions have massive consequences. The way he acts makes him hard to trust, and worse, it makes it like nearly impossible for him to sustain any relationship.

We see it with him and Inho, who (presumably) genuinely cared for him as a friend and has been a good friend for years, and was abruptly cast aside following one bad line on Inho's part. Obviously Inho said something hurtful, but Jung's reaction of shutting down is disproportionate and shuts down their relationship. TBF, it's not just what Inho said, it's that coupled with him overhearing his dad and then recasting Inho as a watcher rather than a friend. But still, that's years of his life he just compartmentalized and put away. Distancing yourself that cleanly isn't a good thing.

It's not about who started a fist fight, but about who intentionally had the biggest hand in fracturing a relationship. Following Jung's dad, Jung is definitely next up, and that's definitely a serious flaw.

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But why is losing temper all the time and being scary violent like In Ho, considered 'better' than Jung's coldness? In Ho raises his fists against everything and everyone and because he is cute and makes puppy eyes people just forgive him because 'he can't help it and is not responsible for his actions in a temper'.

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But think about the consequences - Inho raising his fists will start a fight if anything, but he's not crazy enough to do real damage to anybody. Jung's returns are quieter but a lot more dangerous in impact. Like what he did to Sang-Chul - he could've really hugely negatively impacted his life by sabotaging his job lineup and then humiliating him within his own company. Messing with livelihood has a pretty severe impact on someone's life, way more than a fistfight.

Again, I don't wanna compare the two like that, because I don't think Jung's problems lessen Inho's or the other way around. But if we are comparing, Jung does do more serious harm to others than Inho. Like I'd way rather someone start a fight with me (assuming it won't go beyond bruises and some blood) than mess with my life. Plus, Inho is more sympathetic despite his flaws I think because you know and see that he always feels the consequences of his actions. Like when he hits someone, he also gets in trouble. Jung doesn't, and doesn't see his wrongs, and so it's less forgivable.

But that aside, I didn't mean earlier that Jung's worse because of what he does to others - I meant his flaws are worse for how they affect his friends. Inho does stupid shit, but he doesn't let go of his family or friends in a heartbeat. Jung does, and I think that's a more serious flaw in how it affects those closest to him and also himself.

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I feel Jung's father's to be very out of character this episode. Since when does not even try to know more about Seol and act like a typical kdrama dad? And the whole thing with In Ha too feels unnatural.

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He always believe Inha's word, especially regarding Jung, before. Its just recently Jung's Dad try to hear Jung side, but he is back to didn't talk with Jung today.

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Oh no, this is absolutely in character for him.

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If he solely wanted to send Jung away or solely kicked In Ha out then maybe, but both actions are contradicting.

First, he usually is afraid for people from Jung, so if he knows that Jung has developed a connection, wouldn't he want to know who that is?

Then if he trusts In Ha so much, how can he turn his back on her in such a disgusting manner? Nop it doesn't make sense at all. I mean yea he's more messed up than Jung would ever be, but that's definitely out of character for him. Well that's I see it. This whole drama just stopped making sense to me.

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YES. I would be okay with Seol ending up alone because she's independent and can find happiness no matter what... Except for the fact that that means Jung will be alone, and I can't handle that. T.T

I don't know why I did this to myself but I re-watched the preview several times and I just feel like crying looking at Jung breaking down by her bedside. WHAT WILL JUNG DO WITHOUT SEOL.

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anybody heard about the extended epidode after the final? is it confirmed?

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I believe it's just a compilation of scenes they cut and some favorite scenes or something.

If you're talking about the one they said would be a "special relaxing time." ?

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Yup, our special relaxing time, a special gift from tvn to viewers who love CITT from 1-16 eps..
lmao... I still cant deal with them calling it that

And I read that there are only 2 piano scenes!!!

I still too scared to watch

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The "special relaxing time" part cracks me up. It shows how traumatized we've become.

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Does anyone know where to find this special relaxing time?

I am not at all relaxed after ep 16 raw. I understand Korean and I am agitated.

Will Dramafever be adding it too, do you think?

At this point, not sure what they can add to make this better and I bet that special will just be an attempt at covering their asses. Ugh! So glad this is over. Left a bad taste in my mouth for sure.

*caught in the trap and got squooshed* I am a human, not a mouse, thank you.

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http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2016/02/cheese-in-trap-resolves-to-air-extended.html?m=1

Not sure if I'm allowed to post this from netizen.
Soompi had news on it too.

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Did the PD and team hit their heads or took idiotic pill? They butchered the material, cut PHJ scenes, put tons of disjointed, unnecessary scenes and storylines (rammed In Ho that we can puke!) and now they want to put a special episode to put things back together again? What's this, Humpty Dumpty?

What disrespect to the original author and to PHJ. And yes, to KGE - she seems so much capable and deserve more meaty scenes (vs. forced romance! frankly, that scene with the hug and hands on shoulder felt creepy, uncomfortable and cringe worthy).

I sincerely hope this special doesn't end up with more of woe-is-me-with-duck-lips looking at my hand or playing piano!

To be clear, it's really about the story telling. CITT was a great webtoon material. It did not deserve to be butchered.

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i'm always happy to get more scenes of jung ... but man was the whole episode so disjointed. There was no cohesive narrative flow. After ignoring characters and story for 5 episodes they sort of crammed everything in one. I became too vested in the show - i'm just glad that it is over

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De-lurking to second your comment...that's exactly how I feel. I was happy to get a bunch of Jung scenes, but I thought episode 15 was a near-disaster. Some dialogues shot as shot/reverse shot were missing matching reverse shots, certain scenes felt close to practice takes...sometimes I found myself thinking, is anyone directing the actors? I don't know what to make of the sloppy editing. Did they not get all the footage they needed? So even without getting to the story, there were problems. And oh boy, the story...

I got SO invested in this show and now in a way I'm just glad to have its hold over me released. But man, what a way to go :-/ This episode was maybe no worse than a lot of penultimate drama episodes, but for me it collapsed under the weight of expectations created by the early part of the series.

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What annoys me about this "special relaxing time" is their claim that it's not due to the recent events. um...So I guess they will continue to feign innocence? So now, this "special relaxing time" comes across as their way of being able to say, "But we did air those scenes. We were always planning on doing it this way". Even if that's true, your method of storytelling is backwards.

What should have happened was the other way around. If the drama had continued down the path it had started on, I would've been fine if the entire hour of "planned" "special relaxing time" had been for In-ho. That way, we get what we want, you get give In-ho his moment, and everyone is happy.

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oh I'm with you on this one. soooo many awkwardly edited scenes put together in a very disjointed way ! ggggrrrr !!

as for Jung's Dad: wtf?? I mean, WHOOOOO changes their mind so damn fast?? In the span of 24hrs, he want from "Jung, you bad bad son! In-Ha is right!" to "In-Ha! You bad bad daught-... wait ! You're not my adopted daughter anymore ! I childishly renounce you ! There!"

like... WHAT?

I don't even read the manwha but, given the # of complaints, I am clearly convinced that this is not what this show was meant to serve us. it started out soooooooo well......

(unto Episode 16 for the coup de grace...)

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Feel like I'm living in a limbo right now. Should I continue watching or just stop completely.
But I love PHJ acting here and Jung's character. I want, REALLY WANT, to see Jung's scenes.
Or whatever left of it -___-

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If the childhood scene aired in this episode is an indication of what to come in the extended episode then we don't need it. It's like the PD went "y'all are complaining that there's no Jung back story huh? Well, how d'you like them apples?" That childhood scene was incomplete. Those who have read the webtoon will know what really went down in that scene. Ugh, this makes me so mad. I haven't gotten that far yet but I've heard that the scene between In-ha and the chairman was supposed to be between In-ho and the chairman. Till the end, this PD is going to be like this?! I can't even anymore with this show. The first and second half are like two different dramas. Just why?

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Hopefully they have the complete story in the last episode, because now, I really want to know.

I think it shows us once again to never make judgments before getting the full story (I still wouldn't after but yea...). That's the message I got early on, which is why I get surprised when I still see people already hating him (again).

Well, if they don't cover it, I'll be searching DB comments for an explanation. Although I do want to read it, I can't say when or if I'll get to the webtoon.

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At first I was all "yay! I remember this scene from the webtoon!", but then they didn't really translate it very well in the drama. They don't show how Jung is shy, introverted, and doesn't like being in crowds or loud noises. And they completely miss out the part where Ju Yong tells Jung, "If anyone there gets upset at everything like you do, he'll be an outcast until the day he graduates. I'm going to give you a piece of advice: Smile! Smile whenever you're around people! It's for your own good!" etc, etc. I feel like if they'd added it in, it would've added more depth to the scene. Also, in the webtoon, I got this sense that part of Jung's motivation for the wine thing was his severe discomfort at the party (not saying it excuses his behaviour but he IS a kid.) and he wanted to make it so he could leave (not in the drama).

They made me feel like Jung was just vengeful even as a child (I was a little frightened tbh), rather than that Jung has this strong sense of righteousness and if you've done something wrong, you deserve something in return for it (at least, that's what I feel). I mean, Jung never harms people who don't deserve it, and he cares deeply about people he loves and is very gentle with them. But he's never been socialised to know how to express his anger appropriately :/

If you want to read just that scene, you can jump to episode 42 of Season 1!

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Thank you so much. I'll look it up.

Also, I love how you explained Jung. It makes me feel worse for him, especially with how he was demonized it this drama. ahh... It makes me want to read the webtoon more. I will make the time. For now at least, I will read that scene.

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Wah...daebak, Park Hae Jin protest has been affected to this episode :

1. Yo Jung screen time is back to normal, even there is still a few minutes piano scene, but I'm just fast forward it haha
2. Father and Son (Jung) conversation is appeared
3. Jung Childhood story (even not much as we hope) is appeared (It should be appearing on episode 13)
4. Jung-Seol love development is enggaging again

This is the lesson for the director and the production team, that people power is on Park Hae Jin side, it can make a big wave for those who want to ruin the story.
So proud that Park Hae Jin take a risk to blow up this bullshit (sory about my leanguage)

For the last, I'm just hope Jung-Seol will end up together even from the preview it is could be sad ending :(

I hope my prediction is Totally Wrong.

Jung-Seol Fighting

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The rhythm of the show is totally off now, though. Agh.

This episode was complete whiplash. It was tonally completely different from the previous few - and yes, I know people didn't like the previous ones because of the In Ho focus, but by wrenching the plot around this way it's off-kilter completely. Completely uneven.

These scenes should have been peppered throughout the 16 episodes, and I'm not sure it's an improvement to chuck them all in in episode 15. In fact, I'm pretty sure it just torpedoed any internal logic (not necessarily fan-driven external logic).

My god, HOW could this have happened with a pre-produced show?! HOW?

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Yeah, but it shouldn't have - there should have been plenty of time to cut together not just this episode, but the entire arc of them. Someone should have been able to step back and go "Hm. We're losing balance in eps 10 through 14, we need to shoot a Jung/Dad scene to move this flashback up".

There are just too many weird hitches in this entire process: a webtoon author objection midway, an In Ho focus, a reorientation based on fan complains, very evident pacing issues... The entire point of pre-production is being able to pace this stuff out.

Maybe that's part of the problem? Maybe it's like certain methods of software development: you have to go all-in for the new approach, or it's going to fail and you'll backslide. Maybe this PD is one who is too attached to the live-shoot system to take advantage of the benefits of pre-production properly?

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Yup, this defeats the purpose of pre-production.

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< Maybe this PD is one who is too attached to the live-shoot system to take advantage of the benefits of pre-production properly?

I was just thinking the same. It's like they are making a pre-pre-produced show but approaching it like it's a live-shoot – which totally defeats the purpose.

Japanese shows are generally reproduced and there are plenty that you can get sense of that "rounded whole" that preproduction allows for and that could have made CITT a masterpiece. I don't think I've ever come across a J-drama that feels like they are suddenly doing last-minute editing for whatever reason (bending to fans/sponsors/whatever is behind CITT's mess) – I mean, there're crappy pre-produced Japanese dramas too but with a whiplash like you're seeing here.

It's sad, because I see some people reacting with "Pre-produced is no good" but I have seen amazing pre-produced dramas, so I know what's possible. Such a lost opportunity....

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Pre produced dramas...in other countries...work. Korea though has been working too long in live shoot mode I think. It's like they didn't even know what to do with CITT towards the later end because they had so much time (to edit...and I think they mistook that as they had more time to tell everyone's story in 16 episodes, which they didn't).

Also agreed re: Japanese dramas and even Chinese dramas (hallo you awesome Nirvana in Fire you) who have been amazing pre-produced. The ones that aren't awesome just have issues with writing or directing, but that's not a fault of the live shoot system which can create other kinds of pressures or mistakes.

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Yeah, whiplash is right.

I think this show is clearly a bad example for pre-production when the director deviated from the script so much that a finished script was pretty much meaningless and there's been last minute cutting and editing.
And then more last, LAST minute cutting and splicing to make up for the previous (sh*tty) editorial changes.

I'm going to just go with DOTS being the pre-production example.

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Yep. I think if you're going to do pre-production, you have to set down some solid ground rules about arcs and how flexible the components within those arcs are.

This feels like the production team though that pre-production was shorthand for "we just do everything earlier" rather than an entirely new way to approach drama-making. So they were still thinking about it on an episode-to-episode basis - the webtoon author should NEVER have found out about the ending while they were filming episode 6! For a 16-episode series, that should have been broken out before scripts were assigned!

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Webtoon writer Soonkki didn't find out about the ending until right before they filmed ep 14, wasn't it?

I think she was saying she is not culpable for the 4 Inho-centric eps because they didn't tell her anything after ep 6 even when she asked them to forward her the following eps (said something about confidentiality...seriously? Confidentiality from the webtoon creator? Who is she going to leak it to?)

Then their not so heartfelt apology strategically released right before this episode's release.

Too little, too late is right.

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@Petra, I got the sense Soonkki was objecting closer to episode 6. Though she didn't get 14 until they'd started filming it either. But given the tonal change after episode 9, I'm wondering if they wrote the arcs, the webtoon writer objected and they changed course in a way that became notable after ep 9, and then had to do it again after ep 14 (this time with added PHJ). Which would fit the pattern of weird narrative.

That's not saying that it's Soonkki's fault. I actually think this is a toxic blend of a PD who thrives in the live-shoot system, source material that is incomplete, and a webtoon author's request that it "not end like the webtoon" being a very ambiguous thing that could have been interpreted differently by both parties. For instance, if I take Cinderella and promise to diverge from the ending, and instead of having her try on a shoe I make her try on a ring she dropped, then I might think I've altered it enough while the author says "no, I meant you need to seriously change it, like have the prince initially marry a stepsister and then realize just before the wedding that it was Cinderella and he pulls her out of the crowd".

Overall I just find it insane that with all the advantages of pre-production, the drama team really only did pre-prod by name. They still operated like a live shoot, including allowing themselves to be wrenched around by fan feedback.

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The way I understood the webtoon author didn't want it to be a straight comic to drama adaption and certainly not have the same ending as she was not even finished with the comic; however, they didn't listen to her. I think she later might have reconsidered and contacted them; however, they were ignoring her completely until two episodes were left and they wanted her permission to use the comic ending. That is no way to treat someone especially if you want something from them. Then again they are self-centered and do whatever they feel like.

Beside the whole point of pre producing is to not make big changes, if they were going to do that, what was the point in pre-producing?

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I read she got up to episode 6 and then nothing. She kept asking for more eps but they wouldn't give them to her and had cut off contact.

And at ep 14, she was shown the final where the sequence of events leading to the end was too similar to her own (which she had shared in early meets). That might explain all these last minute makjang elements.

The Inho arc wasn't due to the author wanting it different.

Also of interest is that she told them some of the endless villains of CITT should be reduced in the drama version to retain the slice of life feel...but they kept them all in (despite having to squish them into a mere 16 eps vs 4 seasons if the webtoon.

I felt there were
way too many loonies sprouting up left and right.

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I never thought this production is completely pre-produced like DotS. Because CitT only finishes shooting in the end of January, then they doing the directing at the same time as airing. Whereas DotS have finished all the production process before start airing it.

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That's true. I think I heard they had the script up to ep 14 (not that they followed it) when it started playing and then a little more than half of it filmed, right?

While DOTS wrapped up long before it started playing.

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Wait, something is wrong with my timeline. Lol. Disregard.
Just finished the show and reeling from the pool of blood under Seol ???

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@Petra, that's why you should never carry industrial-sized bags of raspberry syrup in your bag, even if you are a part-time barista: when you get thrown in front of a car by your spooky boyfriend's quasi-sister, people will momentarily think it's blood.

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@Petra
Your timeline seem right, though. I remember seeing that kind of article when it starts airing. Then article about them completing shooting when they aired several episode.
Me think the PD really want to take our focus by that blood. ?

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Lol! I'll have to remember that.

I did think the scene of Jung getting the text from Seol and then hearing the sirens worked though.

I wouldn't be surprised if that is a webtoon scene (which we have yet to see in webtoon).

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I agree that this mess probably does have to do with this last minute author complaints- but honestly - who needs advice from SC who has used everybody shamelessly while blaming everyone else. Maybe InHa meltdown is the deviation. Bc she lost everything in her greed to have it all. She could have just done s little bit- and then insisting to have jung- she is truly insane.

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I think you've really hit on what I was trying to put my finger on re this episode feeling like whiplash-- thinking about it, there's been so little continuity/internal plot logic/consistency in the past few episodes that right now the characters are just doing/saying things, but there's no sense of how and why. Like PHJ said, they're there to show up and say whatever the plot demands of them in a way that feels engineered/forced 'just because', and at this point it's become rather obvious that the editing/writing team has really dropped the ball and is just scrambling to put this thing out of its misery.

Oh, Cheese. Could have ended with a bang as a genuinely good/different drama but went out with a whimper bogged down in all the production issues + actual writing/directing/editing issues.

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Even In Ha, who was clearly unstable from the start, should've had a better ramp-up into crazy than this. The pattern from the beginning of intertwining stories needed to continue.

Given the amount of agency he's having in the plot right now, it's insane that it's taken this long to get a good idea of how much puppeteering Dad has done in Jung, In Ha and In Ho's lives. A more layered sense that he was the negligent man behind the curtain would have gone a long way.

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I am really sad for In ha. I had a hope few episodes back that they wilm developed her character too. We even see a little different nuance from her before the pd decided to up the amp with In ho angle everything begins to crack. No more room for development of other characters and in ha is thrown under the bus as totally mental. While they are trying to 'save' Jung’s psycho brand with this patchwork editing.

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Same sentiments about Inha; in the webtoon, I distinctly remember her beginning to attend the art school with Ahyoung, and I was so looking forward to seeing more Inha development and healing, but the drama just totally trashed her as a psychotic mentally-unstable side character that had little to offer to the overall story except as a thorn in the side -.-

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Someone in a different forum here describes it as "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" and I thought that was perfect.

They had a winner on their hands and then somehow managed to turn a sure victory into a defeat.

Now they are scrambling to salvage what they can, whiplash to viewers or not ?.

Ugh! And the introduction of all these cliches...

Manipulative, jealous female
Interfering parent
Car accident
Forced time apart

No amnesia, please. Unless it's for us, thank you.

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"No amnesia, please. Unless it's for us" LOL! Commenters on DB are so hilarious!

And totally agree with you! They had a winner and I think that's where it went wrong. They changed focus simply because they were sure of the ratings (Cheese had reached crack status to so many that they knew no one was giving it up, whatever crap they throw at us), so they turned the entire thing into one big PPL for that piano.

If you notice, the change happened after episode 8 and that's when they would have had time to film extra piano scenes.

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I can only imagine I want that amnesia on a plate for me too, please. So, I can forget this whole mess. And no, I don't think ep. 15 is satisfying.

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But my gosh, nothing can get worse than the last episode of "Surplus Princess." It started off so great, and I loved the overall feel of the drama, but the drama was cut short and they seriously just SHOVED A HUGE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS INTO THE LAST EPISODE. Then the ending made absolutely ZERO sense.

I'm getting the same feeling of sinking disappointment with "Cheese" and it makes me very, very sad -_-

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Actually prior to watching this episode, last night I even have dream about how this episode will play. And in my dream its more crazy than this episode. Now I'm thankful for that dream. Because of that, I still can appreciate this episode. There's only one thing that is worse than my dream though, Seol's blood.

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This is like literally watching Titanic hit glacier and go down.

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Yup, given is the time when I thought they would break double digits and set new highs for a Monday/Tuesday show :(

Which they totally could have done if only they had kept focus.

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At this point it would actually have been more natural to have the drama be about In Ho overcoming his past to play the piano again. It would've made the entire series much less than stellar (as Seol being the focus was the way this show could have achieved greatness), and it would have pissed everyone off spectacularly and with good reason-- but at least it would have derived from things that came before it, at least it would have made some narratorial sense. This episode shot through everything that had been so good about CIIT, that quiet, contemplative, thoughtful air (which lbr is much more conducive to piano-playing than car accidents and explosions of blood) which had defined it before. And I do so agree in that I too think it's really a stretch to suggest that this is somehow an improvement over the previous few episodes and the only problem is that came too late, as the external logic seems to be advocating.

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YES. If they'd gone far enough down that In Ho path, just keep going. This episode came off as a blend of fan pandering and... well, panic.

And you're exactly right about the contemplative air being missing. I was even pissed off at the song at the end (and I LOVE this OST) because it was so heavy-handed "Seol got hit by a car and that is sad and worrying!" If you're relying on your score to not just subtly emphasize emotion but to flat-out cue the audience ("Blood! Sad!") then you're missing the mark.

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It's the production's fault from not communicating with the Web toon author to Inho centric storyline and lastly this pandering to fan. If they know where they are going from the beginning this wouldn't happened. It is embarrassing. No the plot is just too cheesy.

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I've been saying that since the article about PHJ interview come out. That regardless of what the PD do in this eps, it will make viewer complaining. There's no sure ways of solving this madness.

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It is too little, too late.

But I'm glad we got the scene of Jung's backstory as it explains a lot about him (don't show anger!) even if it doesn't excuse him. I just wish it had come earlier to feel more organic.

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Jesus, what a mess. Things were off kilter from the start when the episode seemingly began in mid-conversation between Seol and Jung. I found the episode lacked cohesiveness with scenes slapdash together, something I imagine will worsen in the final episode now that it's been extended to 2 hours.

With the stakes getting higher and characters reaching a breaking point, CITT has gotten quite meta with the show mirroring the behind the scenes drama that has escalated to a point of catharsis.

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Agreed. And In-Ha - whose character was slowly and surely becoming redeemable in many ways - used unceremoniously as a pre-conclusion spanner in the works. What in the world.

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That's because they exhausted all the bad guys i.e Younggon, SangChul, Minsoo to manipulate so the obvious choice is Baek Inha.
They cant use Baek Inho since we just had Inho Cantabile last 2 eps~

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Yeah, the ending of 14 pissed me off so bad.

I'm glad javabeans and some commenters here called it right that Seol WILL confront Jung, good for her!

But it's how they cut the story right at that hug...after spending how many minutes of Inho? ?

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@Zoe You know you're probably right it would have made more sense to commit to the In Ho recovery story-line, but my god would that have been the worst thing that ever happened in the history of kdrama productions. The thought of it enrages me (ha ha ha!). I'm so glad Soonkki and PHJ spoke out. Because if I'd missed this episode for 'In Ho's Ode to the Piano' I think I would've cried.

Do I have whiplash? Yes! Do characters completely change in the blink of an eye? Yes!

Sang Chul honestly has the gall to go to Jung, who just got him his job, the biggest user at their University, and say 'people genuinely wanted to be friends with you'. That may have been true but that person wasn't you, Sang Chul! So now you can be insightful? Completely shameless to the end!

Then there's Jung's Dad. First he's listening to Jung, then In Ha, then turns on In Ha when she calls Jung strange. Dude who are you? That's your whole refrain!

In Ha completely cracking it in the span of 15 seconds? Sure, why not? I'll go with it.

Because at the end of the day, even if it makes no sense, even if scenes are shoehorned in, it's still fun! It's still exciting. I still can't wipe the smile off my face for Jung/Seol scenes. I loved the In Ho/Jung scenes. Could it have been done better? Absolutely.

But if they'd gone with In Ho's Rehab that would have bored me into a coma.

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"Sang Chul honestly has the gall to go to Jung, who just got him his job, the biggest user at their University, and say ‘people genuinely wanted to be friends with you’. That may have been true but that person wasn’t you, Sang Chul! So now you can be insightful? Completely shameless to the end!"

Thank you! I was totally WTF??? Who are you to say that to anybody really???

"I still can’t wipe the smile off my face for Jung/Seol scenes. I loved the In Ho/Jung scenes. " me too, it's the only reason I keep on watching this whole mess.

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HAHAHA completely agree with you, especially the part on Sang Chul. It made me sad to know that Jung could have built so many more good relationships with people in the past, if not for the way he was brought up plus the hurt he went through in the past, what with feeling betrayed by people he thought were his best friends. Just... Poor Jung.

But Sang Chul? The way he says that line to Jung, as if he'd been genuine in being friends with him? Does he really lack such awareness of how he's bullied and made use of people so that he can make his own life easier? Okay, bro...

Yes, it would have made for more continuity to go with more In Ho scenes and overcoming his struggles and all that jazz, but if they did that I think I'd probably just fast forward out of annoyance. So even though we get whiplash, we get to see JungxSeol being all adorable. I say, I'LL TAKE IT.

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I was actually waiting for Yoojung to drag Sangchul stupid as$ all over school for daring to talk to him like that. Get off that high horse! Too bad we already in ep15

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@Lola, I had fun this episode too, so much better than the last episode! But it was over-the-top melodramatic, one-upping sort-of fun, which is great, but kind of made it any ordinary drama fun where a bunch of things are happening and it's interesting to watch for that sake alone. My expectations of CIIT were so high, and it was such a beautifully written show, that no matter how I look at it now I'm disappointed. I would have taken In Ho's rehab over Seol's hospitalization (and bleeding out the Nile) though, I find the whole noble idiot set-up and this way of making Jung realize the error of his ways, really boring. I'd take today's zaniness and Jung v. In Ha in a battle of wits over that.

Haha, I thought it was hilarious that Sang Chul was the one to say that line too, but in my opinion that line really needed to be said to make it clear that Jung is as unreliable a narrator as anyone else on the show, and that his word isn't necessarily "more true" because it's colored by his worldview and opinions (while I've often seen it be taken as the objective truth), so I would take it from whatever source it came for the sake of Jung's characterization.

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I agree with you here. I understand what Zoe is saying because it is too late to save the storyline but at least we can save the characterization of Jung (not sure it's working but they're trying...it's just laughable the methods with which they're trying).

Basically, with that story arc, it made more sense to make Inho endgame.

However, that would totally change the story.
An adaptation can change a lot of things but it should stick to keeping the characters of the main players as they were created.

Example: In Pride and Prejudice, Wickham is a superficially charming character who was raised as a gentleman far beyond his family's ability with Darcy's family's help. He than bad mouths Darcy to Elizabeth even though the actual circumstances of his downfall were of his own creation. Elizabeth falls for it at first but then realizes there was more to the story.
If an adaptation were to make Elizabeth end up with Wickham, it's not an adaptation anymore. It is a whole 'nother story.
Austen fans would yell foul. And probably flip.

The webtoon author can still make InHo endgame but that would take a longer and better trajectory than piano playing scenes and rosy cheeks because it belies Seol's character at this point.

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The whole Sang Chul moralising speech was just ridiculous. I actually found myself talking back aloud at him, line for line. Seriously, dude, just go away.

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I'm with you on this one. complete whiplash. you ppl make an interesting point- maybe the team had no idea about how to handle a pre-produced show

There should have been balance - when you just force all the scenes in together, they lose their impact. you just don't feel for the characters bec wayyyy too much was happening. its like the show suddenly realised that there were more characters to deal with than the piano and crammed everything in

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'So many useless scenes of Baek Inho. Baek Inho staring at Yoo Jung and Seol's couple scenes, Baek Inho doing push ups at home alone, Baek Inho getting a loan consultation at the bank when he doesn't even have a job, Baek Inho walking around Hongdae, Baek Inho doing the dishes, Baek Inho going out to throw the trash, a day in the life of Baek Inho... you could cut out half these scenes and still make room for the Yoo Jung scenes she deleted'.

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How true!! The pointless Ep 13 & 14!!! There could have been so much more character developments in Jung, Seol and their relationship. It's just a wasted 2 episodes except for the meagre scenes of Jungseol.

We didn't sign up for InHo in a Trap! Perhaps the drama should be renamed "Where's My Cheese". I'm so mad cos it could have been a fantastic adaptation of the webtoon. They did everything right from Episodes 1-8.

Sigh!! I'm sure there'll be another scene of InHo and his piano! Jeezzz, I'm allergic to pianos now.

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Where's my cheese- ha!

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Honestly, I felt like we got more Yoo Jung than we have all of the second half combined. I'm sure some Knetz will clock the time. Haha.

I'm glad PHJ spoke up on behalf of a quality product.

But just to make sure ppl aren't confused...the fire started long before PHJ said anything. I think both Soonkki and he were pushed into a corner where they had to say something. Accusations were flying like mad on the Knetz and I heard, Chinese forums.

You can look at our own forum after ep 13 to get an idea of how irritated people were with the inorganic storyline. Though there were more and more confusion since episode 9.

All's well that ends well and I hope that the last will wrap it up well whether Seol be with Jung or Inho or no one.

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I heard somewhere that lee PD apologized to soonki personally and tvn apologized for cast inconvenience.. Yay! If its true
1. Soel is still love blind and sung chul did her job which is sad on plus kim go eun's ost is awesome
2. soe kang jun acts much better with live person than piano... " Noona "my heart sunk
3. Inha is totally crazy
4. That dad he doesn't want him to display anger publicly and when he takes out behind scene you think he is weired.. He is more weired than jung
5. A troubled child with a father like that is just pitiful..when jung was talking to inho.. I felt like even jung is tiered of manipulation and just want some peace .. spoilers! I heard there is a time skip which is the only way out sadly i don't want him to change overnight... But what's the change i don't want him to manipulate or be a pushover or handle with fist like inho... I think even a piano runaway couldn't give an escape from this problem.
May be jung should take healer's tip buy an island and live with soel happily ever after... ?

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It's true. TvN write their apology in their official website. And there they also said the PD personally apologized to Soonkki.

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1. Yup. Apology was given to Sonnkki & to 'the participating actors'.
4. Worst Dad is weirder than Jung. Worst dad knew prof Baek because young Worst Dad had (still have?) anger issue and prof Baek treated him. I guess Worst Dad didnt finished his treatment or prof Baek actually a quack.

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+10000 for your point 4. I've always found it ironic that Dad got out of his anger treatment only to become quietly judgemental and incapable of dealing with children.

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Was relieved that Yoo Jung's back. I don't care about the time jump tomorrow in the finale, as long as we get a satisfying ending. I also want that special episode for the other deleted scenes.

This is still my favorite show despite the controversy. I love it to bits, faults and all.

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I am granting the producer wish to watch this episode without prejudice. The good thing is, I can't decide if this episode flow is originally like the director plan before the chaos, get edited majorly because of that, or just getting small shift to appease viewer's anger.

Its good seeing Seol confronting Jung after Sangchul incident. Following the hug in last episode, she continued to impress me by saying that small part of her also want to do the same to Sangchul. Then said her wish for Jung to not continue this kind of act, even give him reason. It seems that she already done her homework before confronting Jung this time.

I'm surprised at how Sangchul handle Jung's intervention again in his career. I never thought that it will be Sangchul talking sense to Jung, he also seem to get new perspective from what Sangchul said to him. After Jung's manipulation, Sangchul seem to really thought about his behaviour. And I hope he'll continue to change toward the better.

Jung's Dad! Wow! Where should I start? By today episode he officially getting first place of K-Drama Worst Dad. Didn't he tell Inha that he will hear from Jung directly just last episode? And then he totally didn't hear Jung out and make decision only based on what Inha told him. I think Prof. Baek haven't completed his counseling with Jung's Dad. Sure he didn't have anger management issue anymore, but he still have other problem.

Jung & Inho. ? How I wish to chain them in a chair face to face so that they can talk all of their problem without hitting each other. Both of them seem hurt to think bad of each other. When actually its all still a big misunderstanding. I still have hope for their relationship. But maybe not in this drama.

I also want to give prop to Lee Sung Kyung. She really scare me when Inho found her like that. And she sell Inha's hurt and desperation so perfectly. Inha is not right, but I still pity her after Jung's dad coldly remove her from the party. She repeatedly abandoned, but she really thought Jung's dad sees her as his own daughter.

And Seol's scenes is still small. Even her blood is winning compared to her screen time in this episode.

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It felt like a major shift to me. It's very possible there was already a shift happening to shift focus to In Ha, but... This felt incredibly uneven.

If they had the footage, then these scenes should have been woven in ages ago. PHJ is completely right that Jung was basically abandoned, but it's especially obvious now that it's all being packed in in one hour. It's really confusing, trying to understand what the director was trying to do - and the abrupt dropping of the In Ho storyline feels very much rooted in fan objection.

For those saying Seol's the central character, I would argue today's episode pulled the focus off even more. I don't think today was an improvement, and it felt rushed.

You know, I could have accepted a car accident in this story, but in this episode it just didn't feel earned. When you've got "Signal" on another channel earning every single scare and emotional beat, it's hard not to view this as a show losing its way.

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Signal is on the same channel though. ?

Well even when they make us watch Inho story so much before, I always believe I will get more Jung in the last week. Maybe thats why I still can believe if this is what they plan to air.

And I don't know if they decided to drop Inho's story because his piano scene is still too long. I think its better to show Inho in different scene.

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Oh my god, that's worse! "Signal" is RIGHT THERE being awesome, and Cheese is trying to convince me to feel bad for Seol with a pool of raspberry syrup and a heavy-handed music cue! (I know it's sad when people get hit by cars, Cheese, thank you.)

I always thought we'd get more Jung, but this was crazy. In Ho vanished, and we got EVERYTHING about Jung. I don't object to the content at all, but I certainly object to the crazy pacing. Incredibly unsubtle.

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Rasberry syrup! lol!

Yeah, the pacing gave me whiplash.

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They can't fix their crazy pacing when its been like that since Inho keep appearing in our screen. Whatever happen in these 2 last episode they will still have that pacing problem. With or without Inho.

And now they're successed to make us talk about something else beside Inho's piano!

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@Vini, the pacing actually wouldn't be off IF they were legitimately switching focus from Jung to In Ho. And I actually do think that was the plan: have some sort of centre pivot on In Ho and his gangster/piano difficulties. He's the most solid thread connecting everyone else, so I could see a scenario where concern for him prompts Seol to intervene, creating empathy in Jung and possibly rebooting In Ha to some extent.

I strongly suspect this was Plan #2. I think Plan #1 was to stick so close to the webtoon ending that the author objected, and so they had to do a mid-show switch. And now we're onto Plan #3: frantically recut the last two episodes to counter fan complaints, even if that means everyone in the drama seems crazy.

Oh, and then hit Seol with a car. (Like the gangster threat wasn't enough?!)

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I like what you say here about being "forced to feel bad for Seol". Perhaps because we'd seen the preview, I felt pretty much nothing in the scene for Seol. Weirdly enough, I felt inordinately sorry for unloved Inha. She's a horrible person in every way but the dad in particular has to take responsibility for her. Moreover, just because of the shitty family dynamics they don't get to play the my way or the highway game. They told her she was family. That means you can't abandon the person.

I also didn't like the "slut card" that was played in this episode. I wish Jung had chosen another manipulation game. I realize all he did was call up two of her exes to come, then sit back to watch her dig her own grave. But there was something unsavory about the whole thing.

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Actually I completely agree with you. Thats also what I believe. Though for me this ending actually part of Plan 2.
But regardless, when they shift to Plan 2 from Plan 1, they already have pacing problem. If there are no pacing problem then maybe there won't be so many complain.

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Signal being on the same chanel just makes me more regretfu that the Misaeng director (who's doing Signal) had done CITT. He directed Sungkyungkwan, which was adapted from a novel, and Misaeng, another webtoon. He also elevates Signal's writer 's work - I've always felt like that writer is good, but her last few dramas were shoddily directed. The director can really make or break a drama, beyond what the writer can do.

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But before, I feel like his piano scene would've been MUCH longer.

I suspected they had done last minute splicing when I saw the news of their apology and request for the audience to watch 15 and 16. Too assured after such a late apology. And then there was the drama insider who said Jung's role was small in the last two eps. That he would just be a scene stealer.

Small? This was more Yoo Jung than we have seen in all of the second half combined and more character exposition than in the entire show.

I figured they had done what they think is "fixing" it, even if it gave the viewer's whiplash.

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Yes they probably think it is fixing the problem. Maybe they think combining minus with minus will make it plus.

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This is as if tvn telling us, you want Jung, I'll give you Jung, not understanding that we want Jung's story throughout the whole drama course, not thrown in like this and gives us whiplash.
Or maybe they understand it but its too late and this is tvn way try to appease the angry viewers/webtoon fans/sonnkki/oversea distributors.
But whatever, I'll take Jung whenever I can get Jung, but I'm still angry~

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It was uncomfortable about In-Ha but I do think there's a small but important point of distinction. In-Ha wasn't in trouble because she loved or was intimate with lots of guys. She was in trouble with them because she didn't give a hoot about them and used them for their money, and then mocked them to their faces. So I don't think she was slut-shamed necessarily, though to those in the banquet, they might have just assumed so, but the guys didn't like being made fools.

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The party scene was really difficult to watch. Two guys manhandling InHa (even though she did start it first, it's still two against one) and no one stops them?

Jung just watches as she's thrown to the floor?

I hated him a little bit for that. But then I guess he's done worse. #StillTeamJung

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Well Jung is the one that planned that so of course he will just watches. If he help Inha it will not go with his plan.

But maybe that also show how people nowadays behave. People often chose to just watch something like that, just like they watch something from TV, without doing anything. ?

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But instead of getting her professional help, that image conscious jerk of a father, kicks her out oh so politely.

Hate that father. And to think I thought him cute and kind in the first few episodes.

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He won't realize that those child have several problems. Because he have problem himself. If only there's a normal functioning adult in that house, maybe Jung, Inha and Inho won't be like them today.

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I think if there's a normal adult in the house, there won't be baek siblings there. Because dad would have tried to help Jung by giving him help with professional if he really need it and not throwing two siblings to take his responsibility of raising his own son.

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Now where's Jung's mother? I think his Dad talked to her that Jung have a problem. So how could she still leave Jung in his father care? When her child is having some mental issues?

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I was super angry at Jung's Dad for that. I couldn't believe he has her tossed out instead of those horrible guys.

But hey, they're the sons of business associates ?. Urrrrr! ?

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For Jung's dad his reputation is always above all else. Even above his kids well being. ?

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Yup, Worst Father of the Year.

I, too, wonder where Jung's mother is. Maybe she was exiled to Europe too after daring to show anger?

You see the way he shushed her when she said to leave Jung be? I assume that was her but maybe not?

Why is she such a nonentity in this drama? We don't even know here how much Jung loved the watch he gave her and how he didn't want to give up the frame from her, etc.

If I was his mom, I'd have had a chat with the little crying girl's parents for letting the child sob like that in front of everyone instead of taking her out and comforting her ?.

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Jung mother is non-existent even in webtoon, reader know that Jung's mom is still alive in Q&A with Sonnkki. What we know is Mom doesnt agree with how Worst Dad/prof Baek view on Jung.
So, I dont think they will give Jung a mom in drama.

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So she didn't agree with their view of Jung but still leave him under their care? Both his parents really care about their job and reputation, it seems. No wonder he became like that.

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Yes, that's true and introducing Drama mom would be too much but because mention of her was too scarce even there, the times when she was should have been retained. iMo.

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I think that scene w/ Jung & his father really spoke volumes, sadly. The father doesn't even listen to what Jung has to say, doesn't even ask his own son for his version or his side of the story, doesn't ask him questions, really - doesn't TALK WITH him. He just talks AT him, tells him that he KNOWS everything, believes everything In Ha tells him, and basically blames his son for everything (like everyone else), then tells him he's shipping him off to Europe so people can't see him. Gee - wonder why they don't have a better relationship...? Hmm... What kind of pathetic father is that???!!!

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He prevented his son having anger management issues like himself, but making his son having bigger psychological issue instead. Then he continue it by having 3 child in his bad care. The people in that house really damaging each other more.

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Can I just say that Kim Go Eun's voice is so soothing. Even though I don't know what she's saying, I am still drawn to the music. She is so talented.

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Did she sing the OST here? Or do you mean when she's talking?

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I meant the singing. I saw the mv, as well.

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It's funny you should say that b/c I didn't know she sang this song (I had to scroll up to check), but while watching this episode and listening to her speak, I was thinking how she should be singing.

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I LOVE HER SINGING! IT'S BEEN ON REPEAT FOR ME SINCE IT CAME OUT. THE OSTS IN GENERAL IS GREAT ISN'T IT

pardon the capslock, in case my passion doesn't come across .

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Good to have you back gf! Thanks a lot for the recap.

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I LOVED Jung in this episode, because finally all the things that were making me hold off were addressed, like him facing consequences for his action re: Sang Chul and Sang Chul openly telling him that his paranoia is misplaced on occasion and that he’s not always right in his assessment, and that there WERE people who wanted to be genuine friends with him, which also he lost because he was so convinced everyone was out to use him. Park Hae Jin was just so adorable (and beautiful!) in all the JungSeol scenes and I loved when Seol gave him the ring and he just looked at it and his expression was just everything and he so easily slid from the romantic scenes to the rather makjang onces (#JusticeForParkHaeJin tbh). Watching everyone around him reacting to the reveal, I felt suffocated. PHJ really played that well. Also, his dad is THE WORST. Like, ugh, he is so awful, he just ruined everyone he came in contact with in this show. Even when In Ha has her moment of realization, that she was just as expendable as anyone else to him, I felt really bad for her, despite everything she’d done.

That said, I just still can’t come around to the point-of-view that In Ho and Jung are on the same level of mental instability or massive issues in any regard. In Ho spent the episode being reasonable and handling himself by himself. I love that he didn’t push Seol and it was clear that last episode he’d gotten worked up because thought they couldn’t even be friends, but this episode, he just stayed away. He got worked up about his sister’s state (and she looked terrifyingly hurt and vulnerable—the sudden “noona” scene was great) like a normal person and then calmed down and backed off like a normal person on hearing the other side from Jung. (On which count I found Jung’s condescending, “I know you did things to look good to my dad, and made me the weird one, but that’s all past. I just want you to go away now.” lacking in any sort of self-awareness. Not least because we haven’t seen In Ho do anything of the sort and lbr, Jung IS wierd. They didn’t make him seem the weird one, esp not In Ho, it’s because his dad thought that he was weird that he brought the Baek siblings in the first place.) His being reasonable may not be the most interesting or mysterious character trait, but in between the rest of the characters in this drama, I was extremely thankful for In Ho. And I like that his characteristics aren’t limited to the girl he likes. He got Seol coffee, but also got In Ha medicine, both in the same, quiet way.

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I was most disappointed in Seol’s arc today—or the very visible lack thereof. Today's episode was the first where I felt that Seol had no POV whatsoever. She spent the entire episode being cute and giddy, and it was low-key nice to watch, and that's about it. I felt like I was watching Seol from the outside. Not that cute-and-giddy in general is a bad thing, but not in the finale week and especially when there is all that is, with no other depth of characterization. In Ho’s numerous scenes and focus got a lot of flack (and rightly so, if all the drama surrounding the drama is any indication), and how Seol was no longer the primary POV, but never once did I feel that Seol was so reduced as she was today, because she always had internal conflicts and other concerns, both re: Jung, and other aspects of her life, which made her seem fully realized. Today her only concern was Jung, and all her scenes centred round him, and thinking of him. I don’t deny the realism of that re: a person in their first relationship, but it felt like she was in a different drama entirely, while the rest of the cast carried on without her. I thought the very first scene where she admitted how she was beginning to feel that as long as Jung didn’t target her, it was okay, was so powerful, and interesting, and I wanted more of that, but after that she was basically reduced to an extra and the entire relationship was magazine cover glossy.

I don’t know what the consensus on In Ha is and I’m guessing people may dislike her, but that performance was so powerful. She terrified me. In Ha and Jung felt like the leads of today’s episode and their confrontations were excellent. Each scene was so well-crafted, In Ha’s machinations and Jung’s subtle moves and her breakdown. Lee Sung Kyung killed it for me today. I really think she’s a good actress, and the whole over-the-top initial deal was just a character interpretation. She does both vulnerability and psychosis extremely well.

(Also, WHAT WAS THAT SCENE WITH THE BLOOD? I’VE BEEN LAUGHING SINCE YEARS. The whole thing was so bizarre and threw me off completely.) And can’t deny, next episode looks really boring. I'd rather have more piano than hospital scenes and angst about how Jung should leave Seol because he's a chaebol heir. Oh why couldn’t you be better, Cheese, when you were on your way to greatness. When I think of drunk!Seol laughing in the background while the boys fight and then basically hitting them to make them listen to her and telling them to not bother her and play nice, I could cry.

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Love your comments as always! I'm particularly glad you brought up Seol and her seemingly weak agency and force in this episode. My interpretation for part of that (not all of it) is based on the retrospective doll scene from Jung's childhood.

Interesting how dolls and stuffies seem to get violated in this drama!

I'd call part of this episode - Revenge of the Drunk Little Girl, wherein Inha plays the role of young Jung, Jung is the little girl, and Seol is the doll that gets its arm ripped off.

I don't want to demonize Jung here, but it seems to me that Inha does understand some of his darker impulses quite well, and over the years has unfortunately learned from them. Both of them seem to be inordinately protective of material things, because I think possessions substitute somehow for love to them. It's an easy transference, and really obvious in Inha, less so in Jung in the drama but the webtoon makes it fairly clear.

In the case of the past scene and this one, the motivation is eerily similar. For little Jung, it was "you broke my toy so I'm going to break yours". For Inha, it's "you're taking away my toys so I'm going to break your favorite one (Seol)". It's all about transactions.

There's some artistry going on here but it got lost in too many details, I think. You can tie this scene into the lion doll too, and even the "measly" test notes.

It was when Jung noticed the lion doll on Min Soo's purse that he seemed to get scary, and when Min Soo steps on it later, that's when he makes the definite decision to call Joon to meet him at the school.

I also found it interesting that when he confronts Sang Chul he doesn't mention Seol, but he does mention his notes as the reason for revenge.

In each case, it really is Seol he cares about but he transfers his anger about damage to her onto theft or damage to material things instead. I find it really interesting but with the drama ending, it seems a little too late to expand on all this. Oh what could have been! These psychological underpinnings are lost to us now.

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I don't think Inha had to learn that from Jung. Haha.

Hubs is going to have something evil done to him for suggesting Inha reminded him a little of me ?. (Kidding).

I like your doll analogies.

Seol really reminded me of that lion doll when she was in the car telling Jung ppl don't usually tell the truth to their parents about going away. KGE expressions and such reminded me of that lion. So cute!

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Yup. That's where I could sense the inorganic storyline again because Seol gets pushed off so much.

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I'm confused about why we are saying Seol POV was nonexistent.

We saw what she thinks of Jung's machinations in opening scene. We saw her confront him on it. We saw how she felt about the asskissers at school (test scene and pulling Jung away scene). We saw her be genuinely happy for her friends (cementing her sweet image). We saw how she felt about going away with Jung on a trip (car scene). We saw her POV on Inho and she had sympathy for how uncomfortable he was feeling (hit Inho scene). We see her interact with Joon and get his gears going.

Was there less of Seol? Yes. And that's problematic but it's going too far to say we don't get her POV,IMO.

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Urm, I don't frame it as who is more mentally unstable or damaged?

I just think everyone in the show is damaged and how do they go on from there.

I'm hoping that they will at least start on that journey. I thought the preview for tmr looked promising as far as the path to healing is concerned.

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I know, but every time I hear In Ho is SO MUCH WORSE than Jung and is the real crazy one, I always get a little ???? In Ho may not be as interesting as Jung, but he's proved himself a reasonably decent guy in many ways and in many relationships, and even in this episode wasn't off the hook even on hearing of his hand and blamed no one but himself for the fight that led to his injury. There's a lot of "In Ho is just SO AWFUL" and I don't feel like it at all, especially in this drama populated by all the craziness. Well, to each his own, I guess.

I agree re: the path to healing (In Ha being the extreme, that looks like a psych ward :s), but it still all looks very stretched out and boring to me lol. Like they have to wrap it up somehow, and set everyone on the ~right path since it's the finale, but I'd rather have watched something matching the tone of the previous episodes, rather than the whole dramatics and histrionics of noble idiocy and hospital visits and them trying to figure out how to tie everything in a new bow. Well, I guess we'll just have to take what we can get at this point. It's the wasted potential which is the saddest of all. This drama was a revelation in the first few episodes.

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I agree about Inho. His teacher was right when he told him it was his heart that needed fixing not his hand, and we all saw it happen for him through Seol. His heart has almost healed with just an issue or two left over. Jung took a few baby steps himself just by letting Seol in, but it's only this last episode that he seems to be starting the process of self-understanding. That should have started immediately after episode 12, I think. Wasted potential indeed.

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