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Remember—Son’s War: Episode 16

Good things happen to our heroes and bad things happen to Gyu-man? Somebody pinch me because I must be dreaming. Of course, with every ray of sunshine, there’s a bittersweet thundercloud just lurking around the corner. But it’s enough to know we can actually hope there will be a situation that Il-ho Group won’t be able to buy their way out of, and Gyu-man might not be pulling as many puppet strings as he thinks. That karma Dong-ho keeps talking about seems to finally be kicking in.

EPISODE 16 RECAP

As Gyu-man is taken away in handcuffs (finally!), Dong-ho visits Chairman Nam to hand over the tape recording of the chairman orderings ordering the Seo-kwang Group explosion. It’s useless to him now that the witness has been swayed by the Nam power. But he’s also there to gloat: he hopes that raising Gyu-man like he has will now pay off.

That’s a confusing statement for the chairman until Attorney Hong tells him that Gyu-man has just been arrested. Hah! Of course, he’s using all his power to stop all media coverage, promising that he’ll get Gyu-man released.

Meanwhile, Jin-woo and his team are trying to figure out their next step. They’ve already realized that Nam money is stopping the arrest being publicized, but Jin-woo knows that if they can get someone to report on the case and make it a sensation, then there’s no way Il-ho Group can continue to bury it.

Gyu-man lounges in jail, but there’s no dreary cell for this chaebol since he’s sequestered in a fancy meeting room. He starts to whine about the quality of his surroundings to Attorney Hong until he sees his father enter, then he suddenly stands at attention. Chairman Nam is furious as he warns his contrite son that he’s single-handedly about to bring down the company, so he better watch his step. Papa Nam might not be so forgiving next time.

Jin-woo and Dong-ho working together again? Yes, please! But Jin-woo warns Dong-ho not to assume he’s started trusting him again — he can change his mind just as easily as Dong-ho. Oh, burn. But Dong-ho just smiles, telling him that if, by chance, Jin-woo will ever forgive him, he’ll spend the rest of his life making amends.

He slaps the old 50,000 won contract on the table, showing Jin-woo that he hasn’t forgotten about it. But Jin-woo has, bewildered that this bank note is apparently a contract. That lapse in memory both surprises and worries Dong-ho.

Per Chairman Nam’s instructions, Attorney Hong visits Prosecutor Chae to subtly threaten her to shut down the case, just like she did previously for Jin-woo’s father’s appeal. But she points out that if she were just going to let Gyu-man off, she wouldn’t have started prosecuting him in the first place. Besides, she’s no longer choosing a side — this time she’s following her own convictions.

At the jail medical center, Gyu-man lounges on the hospital bed, ordering the doctor to get him some supplements. The doctor just rolls his eyes as he asks “the inmate” what the hell he thinks he’s doing. As he orders “this punk” to get out, Gyu-man gives him the “don’t you know who I am?” But Doc is having none of it. No special privileges here!

Dong-ho visits In-ah to ask her about Jin-woo’s memory problem, wondering if it could be Alzheimer’s, but she stubbornly insists that Jin-woo is just overworking himself. He has no memory disorder. Nope. No sirree.

But if Dong-ho can vividly remember the day they signed the 50,000 won contract, then Jin-woo should, too, and he asks Sang-ho to investigate if Jin-woo has been to any doctors. When In-ah tells Jin-woo about Dong-ho’s visit, he’s adamant that she not tell anyone about his failing memory until the trial is over.

As they stake out Kim Chan’s agency building, Jin-woo finds out from Chul-soo’s drug dealer that Kim Chan’s entertainment agency is really a front for chaebols to have fun with pretty young things. Believing it’s a real agency, the girls sign on and get a huge bonus upfront — that they then have to pay off, usually by attending the parties where they provide sexual favors which are sometimes are even filmed. Jin-woo realizes that means there could be video evidence of Ha-young’s rape.

The DNA tests from the real corkscrew used to kill Jung-ah reveal that Gyu-man’s finger prints were on it, proving that the one originally submitted in court was indeed a fake. Seok-gyu visits Gyu-man in jail to inform him that he knows Gyu-man killed Jung-ah, and he encourages Gyu-man to turn himself in, knowing it’s probably been eating him up inside.

Instead, Gyu-man is incredulous. What point is there in mentioning that old case — it’s not like it’ll bring Jung-ah back from the dead. Shocked, Seok-gyu tells him that he came here as a friend to support Gyu-man, but apparently he was too naive. Now that he knows the truth, he’ll see this case through.

As if Gyu-man’s walls weren’t cracking enough, Attorney Hong tells Chairman Nam that it won’t be easy getting Gyu-man released from jail. But Chairman Nam isn’t done trying yet. Of course not.

They gather some high court judges, as well as Prosecutor Tak, for a little private conversation regarding Gyu-man. Chairman Nam explains the stress of his son being put in jail just to satisfy the selfish whims of the prosecution who simply want to ruin his image for some money. Pfft, whatever.

But even Prosecutor Tak agrees, asking the judges to consider carefully when Gyu-man goes up before the prisoner review board. As in, hint-hint, get him out of jail. Attorney Hong isn’t completely sold on Prosecutor Tak’s sudden support for Il-ho Group, although it could be just jealousy since Prosecutor Tak is now more important to Chairman Nam.

At the review board, it’s Attorney Hong versus Seok-gyu. Attorney Hong insists that Gyu-man is imprisoned unfairly, since there’s no sufficient evidence to back up the claim of sexual assault against Ha-young. But Seok-gyu’s gone through the files very carefully so he’s aware of some evidence that was omitted, and because he thinks that evidence was destroyed, they should keep Gyu-man in jail.

But the review board judge is in Chairman Nam’s pocket and doesn’t think that Gyu-man is a flight risk. So he’s free until the final results of the trial.

Out of his prisoner jumpsuit and back in his fancy duds, Gyu-man swaggers down the jail hallway. He encounters the doctor and forces him to bow a full ninety-degrees, just as one should bow before a superior. Doc does it, but the look on his face as he watches Gyu-man leave makes me really hope that he’ll get to order that snot-nosed punk of an inmate around again.

Now a free man, Gyu-man wonders why Assistant Ahn didn’t come visit him in jail more often. Assistant Ahn excuses it by saying he was busier than ever while Gyu-man was in jail. He’s going to get even busier, as Gyu-man orders him to clean up Kim Chan’s mess. But first, there’s an important stop he needs to make: Jin-woo’s office.

He’s clearly there to brag that they couldn’t keep him in jail, but Jin-woo doesn’t seem surprised — he expected as much, knowing Chairman Nam’s clout. Instead, he pleasantly warns Gyu-man that he should enjoy as much fresh air as he can right now, because after the trial, he won’t be getting as much of it (’cause he’ll be in jail, y’know). He’ll make sure that Gyu-man loses everything, but the unfazed Gyu-man says that he’ll do the same for Jin-woo.

Except that Jin-woo has nothing to lose, and his face hardens as he takes a step forward, promising that he’ll make sure Gyu-man’s life is over. Nonchalantly, Gyu-man agrees — at any rate, one of them ought to die, and then this whole thing will be finally over.

Ha-young arrives at her apartment complex, but as she’s waiting for the elevator, Kim Chan suddenly appears. He creepily warns her that there’s no point in going through with the trial, and she should have stayed quiet like he told her to. Besides, if the truth is revealed at the trial, then her lifelong dream to become an actress will be destroyed. Don’t forget — he has a sex tape of her, and if she testifies, he’ll make it go viral.

Terrified and near tears, Ha-young collapses as Kim Chan walks away. Outside, another figure watches as she sits distraught on the floor of the lobby.

Chairman Nam hands over a fancy box to Joo-il as a “congrats on getting out of jail” gift. But inside the box isn’t just an expensive bottle of whiskey — there’s also an envelope with a sizable amount of money. By taking it, Joo-il is firmly siding with Chairman Nam and his promises to increase Joo-il’s wealth and power, which means actively going against Dong-ho.

Sitting alone in Dong-ho’s office, Joo-il studies the picture of teenage Dong-ho with his father. He wonders what he should do, since Chairman Nam is out to kill Dong-ho. Apologizing to Dong-ho’s father, Joo-il wonders if it wouldn’t be best for him to do it instead of one of Chairman Nam’s goons. Noooooooo!

Dong-ho arrives just then, not at all pleased to find Joo-il in his seat. Joo-il pleads with him to give up the trial, but Dong-ho interrupts him, ordering him to stop referring to him so casually by his name. They’ve cut all ties from each other, remember?

But Joo-il has a confession: the reason he had Dong-ho join Il-ho Group four years ago was because he was afraid he’d lose Dong-ho, just like he lost Dong-ho’s father. Angry, Dong-ho yells at him to get out of his office.

Ha-young is on the run as she orders a taxi to take her to the bus terminal. Attorney Song pops out of his hiding place to flag down a taxi so he can follow her.

Prosecutor Chae is working her connections to make sure the higher ups don’t feel the urge to suddenly be swayed by Il-ho Group’s power when she runs into Prosecutor Tak. Hmmm, he seems pleasantly supportive.

At Jin-woo’s office, In-ah is busy working in the secret room when she hears someone break in. It’s Joo-il and his men who ransack the place, looking for anything related to Il-ho Group and Gyu-man. Just when it seems Joo-il might discover the hidden door, one of his men tells him that there’s nothing of interest here. Whew. In-ah still hides in the corner, worried about the intruders as she waits for Jin-woo to hurry back.

Attorney Ahn meets with Seok-gyu, wondering what he’ll do with the bottle opener. Seok-gyu is fully aware that Chairman Nam is capable of getting it dismissed as evidence, so they’ll have to make sure it gets into the right hands.

Thanks to In-ah’s eavesdropping as Joo-il and his men destroyed Jin-woo’s office, they’re able to warn Kim Chan that he’s next on the list of things to be destroyed. He finds it hard to believe that his buddy Gyu-man would get rid of him like that, but Jin-woo’s warning is enough to have him hide out in his car while he watches Joo-il and his men swarm the building.

Gyu-man is meditating to help with his anger issues when Prosecutor Tak arrives. He asks the prosecutor if he can replace Prosecutor Chae for his trial, but that’s not something Prosecutor Tak can do. Besides, he’s confident in Attorney Hong’s abilities. Gyu-man asks if he’ll betray them like Dong-ho did, and Prosecutor Tak just smiles, promising he’s putting his life on the line for this trial.

Gyu-man dismisses the prosecutor, and then complains to Assistant Ahn that this prosecutor doesn’t look like he has enough authority to make changes. If only Gyu-man could destroy the whole legal system so it would better suit his purposes. Ah, yes, poor little rich boy.

As payback for Jin-woo essentially saving his life, Kim Chan hands over the video of Ha-young’s rape. It’s not the only video on the USB drive, actually, and Jin-woo calls Gyu-man to tell him that he has a copy of all the videos of Gyu-man raping the young women at the so-called entertainment agency. Ugh. He warns Gyu-man that it won’t be long before those videos are revealed.

Just as Gyu-man is about to make his own little snarky comment, Jin-woo hangs up, much to Gyu-man’s surprise. Who dares to hang up on the almighty Gyu-man? Furious, he picks up a glass to throw it, and Assistant Ahn automatically cowers and covers his face, assuming it’s aimed at him. But instead Gyu-man chucks it against the wall, causing the glass to shatter as he laughs at his assistant’s fear.

It’s the morning of the trial, and In-ah is worried because she can’t get in contact with Ha-young. Attorney Song just smiles, amazed at Jin-woo’s foresight. Apparently Jin-woo knew days ago they’d have to keep a close eye on her, which is why he ordered Attorney Song to follow Ha-young. That means they can go and pick her up at her hiding place to get her ready to testify in court.

At the courthouse, it’s a stand-off between the plaintiff and defense as they arrive prior to the trial. Both sides are full of confidence that they will win, and Gyu-man smiles as he warns Dong-ho that an “interesting event” will happen soon.

In-ah finds Ha-young, who says that she’s going to drop the case. She shouldn’t have started it in the first place. Ha-young is terrified about her sex tape being released as evidence and played for everyone to see.

Such a video will follow her the rest of her life, ruining her chances of becoming a real actress. But In-ah gently asks her to trust her — they’ll make sure it doesn’t get released to the public, and they’ll make Gyu-man and Kim Chan pay.

Gyu-man is awfully happy as he sits in the defense seat — the same seat where Jin-woo’s father once sat. Jin-woo inwardly promises to use this trial as the starting point to vindicate his father.

The trial begins, and In-ah arrives with Ha-young. Gyu-man actually looks a little uncomfortable, but poor Ha-young still looks terrified. Prosecutor Chae calls her to the witness stand, and Ha-young details how Kim Chan introduced her to Gyu-man. She only had a couple of drinks that night, but even so she couldn’t stay awake. When she woke up, she was in a secret room at the entertainment agency. Prosecutor Chae then turns to the judge to submit evidence that an unconscious Ha-young was moved to the hidden room by Gyu-man and Kim Chan. Oooh, actual evidence?

Yep, it turns out that Jin-woo and Attorney Song spotted a few CCTVs outside of Kim Chan’s building, and they combed through hours of footage until they were able to get the video proof that Kim Chan carried the unconscious Ha-young into the building — with Gyu-man by his side.

She also submits Ha-young’s medical report as proof of rape, but Attorney Hong springs up, explaining that it was a consensual relationship, and they had to piggy-back Ha-young because she was too drunk. But thanks to Jin-woo and In-ah’s preparation and information earlier, she retorts that it’s suspicious that two men piggy-backed a drunk unconscious woman to an empty building at that hour.

It’s also suspicious how much money Gyu-man has been pumping into a failing agency, and she hands over documents showing that after Ha-young’s rape, Il-ho Group wired Kim Chan’s company a hefty amount of money. She declares that Kim Chan’s company was just a front for providing women to use a sexual favors for rich chaebols like Gyu-man.

Attorney Song still insists that Prosecutor Chae has no real evidence, but she reveals that they’ve done a search-and-seizure of the company just this morning and found proof of the secret room. She also has definitive evidence that she can’t divulge to the public.

The judge asks her and Attorney Hong to approach the bench, and she reveals the USB stick with the sex videos. Attorney Hong insists that it can’t be submitted as evidence since it’s not verified, but In-ah and Jin-woo were expecting that, and told Prosecutor Chae to tell the judge it was taken during this morning’s search-and-seizure so they couldn’t give prior notice.

The judge accepts it as evidence, and Prosecutor Chae smirks as the judge ends the trial for the day so he can review the evidence in private. If looks could kill, Gyu-man would have another murder on his hands. But if ever there was a time for Jin-woo to look smug, it’s definitely now.

Aw, as Ha-young silently thanks In-ah, it feels like a real victory has been achieved — not just for her, but for our entire little team that has been fighting so hard and for so long against the Il-ho Group.

Later that evening, as they continue to prepare for the trial, Jin-woo looks up to see that In-ah has fallen asleep on the sofa. He gently covers her with a blanket and smiles, internally telling her that she did a great job. He then goes to his secret room, sets up a tablet, and hits record as he begins to leave her a video message. Oh no. This can’t be good.

That night, Joo-il sits in his car as he waits for Dong-ho. He studies a large chef’s knife, remembering Chairman Nam’s directive to get rid of Dong-ho. But when Dong-ho arrives at the car, he hurriedly hides it in his jacket. He’s there to warn Dong-ho to watch himself, because Chairman Nam is more evil than you’d think.

Dong-ho is pretty much “No kidding — did you just now figure that out?” but Joo-il insists that he’s going to stop being the chairman’s dog to be ordered around. He then quickly switches the subject, wondering if Dong-ho is dating anyone — he should get married, have kids, and live happily ever after. Joo-il wants to sit in the father’s spot at the wedding, and he asks Dong-ho to call him “hyung-nim” just once more.

Grumbling, Dong-ho refuses, and gets out of the car. But the icy wall that was once between them has finally thawed as Dong-ho pauses a moment to glance back, smiling. Joo-il smiles, too, as he watches Dong-ho walk away.

Just then a masked figure in black slips into the car and grabs the knife that Joo-il had set down on the console, using it to stab him in the chest. Now it’s Dong-ho’s turn to run through the long hallways of the hospital, rushing to his father-figure’s bed side.

With tears in his eyes, he apologizes, and aw, he calls Joo-il “hyung-nim.” As he stares down at Joo-il hooked up to life-support, he remembers when he was a teenager and Joo-il told him the strongest fist is the one who handles the law. Steeling himself, he tells Sang-ho that now he’s out for blood.

In the morning, Jin-woo is waiting for Dong-ho at his office. He knows that Joo-il’s attack was ordered by Chairman Nam, but Dong-ho tells him to stay out of it. Just then a group of men led by Officer Bae arrive with a warrant — Dong-ho is under arrest for the attempted murder of Joo-il. Officer Bae slap the cuffs on Dong-ho, who gruffly orders them to be removed.

COMMENTS

I want to be sad about Joo-il, but he felt like a lost cause — plus I’m wayyyyyy more excited about the fact our little team is finally one-upping the Il-ho Group. Not only do I want see Gyu-man taken down, but I want the pleasure of watching him stew in jail where people don’t care about who he is. Don’t save that for the very last minute, show! Let me revel in the sweet justice of Gyu-man finally getting the karma he deserves for at least one entire episode.

I’ve given up trying to understand the legality of just about anything on this show, so I’m not at all bothered by the courtroom dramatics because it’s about damn time. Of course, the flip-flop of Prosecutor Tak and Prosecutor Chae’s devotions is still mildly confusing, but I’m not giving up on Prosecutor Tak. He was too passionate about what it means to be a worthy prosecutor to suddenly support the evil Il-ho Group like he’s been doing. Just like Attorney Hong, I sense there’s more to his loyalty than him deciding to selfishly side with the powerful Chairman Nam. Which is why I’m hoping he’s trying to play the long game and get intel to make the company implode. It’s one thing to get rid of Gyu-man, but we all know that Chairman Nam is the true evil at the center of Il-ho Group. (He’s just not as entertaining to watch.)

There’s no doubt more that I could pick through in this episode, such as Dong-ho discovering Jin-woo’s memory problems and imagining what kind of video message Jin-woo left for In-ah and wondering why the show gives Jung Hye-sung fifth billing when her character Yeo-kyung only gets thirty seconds of screen-time each week (none of those seconds were in this episode, btw — I guess she didn’t bother visiting her brother in jail), but I’m just satisfied that we’re actually moving forward. I’m not even bothered by Dong-ho being arrested. After everything our little team of heroes have gone through so far, it’s just another lawsuit on top of the rest of the things they have to deal with.

Sure, it will hinder them in as much as they’ve lost another ally to help them through their trial, but Jin-woo and In-ah seem to be doing just fine gathering evidence on their own and anticipating Attorney Hong’s actions. Not to mention I would love to see what would happen if Dong-ho and Gyu-man met in jail as fellow inmates. Daddy’s protection can only extend so far — when you’re face-to-face with all the people you’ve thrown under the bus all your life, there’s not much you can do to save yourself.

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yeahhhh, I,m first...

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am just imagining how dong ho can get out of this, can't wait for episode 17

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@odienlantte, million kisses to you, thanks for the recaps, you gingered my spirit this time because the recaps come very early, lol, keep it up dear..

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@opy don't worry the episode 17 will air tomorrow, can't wait..

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gyu man,s ass need to be slayed, what a bitch...

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Good things happen to our heroes and bad things happen to Gyu-man? Somebody pinch me because I must be dreaming. Of course, with every ray of sunshine,

lol, honestly no one saw that coming, I was very surprised wen they arrested him, the director really surprised us in that path...

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I suspect Joo-il’s attack was ordered by Chairman Nam with Joo-il explicit consent, otherwise why would he carry a knife like that on his person and put it in a place where it could be easily reached by a third party? When I saw the knife, I at first thought Joo il planned to stab Dong ho with it, but apparently not. His calling Dong ho to the car to reminisce was so out of character/timing that I suspected it was a trick to capture Dong ho.

But I'd be the first to admit, I did not see Dong-ho's arrest for attempted murder, coming by a long mile. On reflection, it makes sense. Joo-il was reluctant to kill Dong ho and still wants to protect him for Chairman Nam, so he cooks up a scheme where Dong ho will not be physically harmed but would be out of the way to cause further harm or damage to the Nam family. Joo-il took one for the team, so to speak.

Further episodes will show whether my conjecture is right or not.

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I'm never going to hear "Clair de Lune" again without thinking about Gyu Man meditating on his anger management issues. Awesome scene...

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The irony of Gyu Man meditating ...

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I can't describe how happy I am that Dong ho picked up on Jinwoo's memory issue and I'm glad he didn't fall for In ha's lie about it. I feel like his memory issue is something that Dong ho should know about as soon as possible, and not later.

It was absolutely hilarious watching that one scene where the doc gave no special privileges to Gyu Man in prison lmao. Honestly thot the doc was bought too but I guess not haha

Also, I feel like Jinwoo is slowly returning his sympathy to Dong ho. Like the last scene, where he got arrested? Jinwoo looked genuinely concerned. hehe the boy still cares ^^

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Ah Gyu-man, how short the days are and they are numbered. You remember short days, they are what comes right before the long dark nights! I wonder, when he returns to the big house, do they do cavity searches in Korean jails??? Maybe the doctor can order a few, on those long coooolllllddd dddaaaarrrrkkk nights?

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Bwahahahahaha! Aigoo!

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'odilettante-ahhhhh' (called in Dongho's accent)
nowsaday, thanks for churning in the recap before the ep 17 arrive tonight. thank God, it fill 'completed' to move on the ep17, after reading your thoughts.
"But Dong-ho just smiles, telling him that if, by chance, Jin-woo will ever forgive him, he’ll spend the rest of his life making amends." you said, that is exactly what i have a hunch may just happened. Jinwoo stroke hard at my heartstrings since ep 1 till now, became my fav Screen character, Inah won me over becoming my Fav Actress in real person for both her Chae Youngshin and InAh.
but Dongho did moves me in quiet ways, his life was about complete ruined when he realised his dad indirectly killed JW's mom and bro, and he (aid in killing, because in jail there are no proper treatment to slow down or treat Alz even, and the stomach pain matter) JW's dad, his family destroyed a whole family, and now he has found he 'killed' JW twice. in JW's own words, he died when dad was jailed the first time. Dongho will need redemption as much as Jinwoo. and Dongho may be the one, helping Inah take care of Jinwoo when ep 20 ends, that is the perfect happy ending i expected.

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JW told DH: “don’t flatter yourself by thinking that you’ve gained my trust, I may betray you right at the last min like you did before.”…. JW stared dagger at DH and turned away in disguised …..awww… what a toothless bite, a punchless threat, punch in air…... who will believe this Lamb turned Lion may actually 'betray someone' like a friend still? at this, DH smiled warmly. Yes, JW has mellowed down from his true scary glare at Dongho of late, he might spit angry words, but not threatening, and DH knew just that, and its enough for him.
loved that subtle brotherhood shown here, between DH and the father-brother figure of Joo-il, loved the chingu brotherhood between Ahn and Judge, loved whatever devotion between Lawyer Song and JW.... even more loved the 'Love-Hate' relationship between JW and DH.

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DH: “if you ever decide to forgive me, I’ll live the rest of my life in atonement.” you said; "Jin-woo is waiting for Dong-ho at his office. He knows that Joo-il’s attack was ordered by Chairman Nam, but Dong-ho tells him to stay out of it. "
Right at the last scene, JW himself appeared to show concern to DH, knowing how he felt. i don't think his appearing there is part of JW's scheme to appear friendly to win hearts, or lure DH or JL to be more devoted to his cause. i believed he did completely worried for DH. and i am glad he witnessed himself DH was cuffed by Bae. it does matter once a while to reveal to JW that some people are loyal forever from beginning, but some people do repent genuinely, and will really care for him after all, and this hyung is such someone that will stand together with him, even if taking the chance to be cuff and throw into prison.
like what odilettante said, i need DH and IA to know together of JW's sickness, more genuine people to watch over JW's blind Side, the more the better.

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Aww...that would be such a lovely ending! :)

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Don't forget that tiny moment when Joo-il directs *someone* to send that CD to Dong-ho if anything happened to him. Since Dong-ho didn't listen to me shouting at him to make a copy...

P.S. I am so happy to have discovered this blog and thank you so much for your work and, maybe most especially, for writing that is such a pleasure to read.

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I think Prosecutor Tak is cooking something for the benefit of what's good. I'll be shouting for him if my hunch turns out right.

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Yayyy! Gyu Man in cuffs and prison garb was such a joy to behold! Gyu Man is gonna get buried in his own hole and I'm in my happy place right now!

Oh Dong Ho! I definitely did not see that coming! Bring on ep. 17 puhlleeeeesssse!

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Thanks Libert!

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I forgot to say... Gyuman finally had his hands in cuffs in this ep and Jin Woo FINALLY had a perfectly gloating moment! That time when he had his hands on the videos from Kim Chan... Lol!

I just loved how he told him " Gyu Man, I have enough videos of you now to start a Nam Gyu Man Collection..."

Priceless... Ha-ha!

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oof, episode 17 is so heartbreaking..

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time to face the real evil, the real victor that never lost a war, the Evil that is worst than the Nams, namely, Alzheimer’s. One chief question we ask: does Alzheimer affect Young people in their prime years?

http://www.alzheimers.net/3-16-15-alzheimers-signs-found-in-young-adults/
"A new study lead by Changiz Geula, a research professor at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago, found evidence of Alzheimer’s disease in the brains of deceased adults as young as 20 years old."
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https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?documentID=164
"Even if dementia services accept younger users, the type of care they provide may not be appropriate. The needs of younger people with dementia and their friends and family are not just related to age. Younger people may have different concerns and interests to older people. A service set up for people of a different generation, where activities are planned for older people who are less physically active, is unlikely to meet the needs of younger people. Younger people with dementia require specialist services, able to meet their complex needs. Specialist services should strive to help people maintain their day-to-day skills, friendships, hobbies and interests, and support people to continue to live an active life as a member of the local community."
(ltalic mine: which means young people definitely needs their family and best friends around them.)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2975071/Early-signs-Alzheimer-s-disease-patients-young-20-Unprecedented-findings-say-disease-eats-away-cells-50-years-symptoms-develop.html
"Crucially, it isn’t known how many people who have the early signs of Alzheimer’s in their brains in their 20s will go on to develop the disease. 
Alzheimer’s and other forms of dementia affect more than 800,000 Britons and, worldwide, the number of sufferers is predicted to treble to 44million by 2050 as the population ages.
With no cure for dementia and existing drugs of limited use, the Prime Minister David Cameron has described dementia as ‘the key health challenge of this generation’."

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for weeks beside the many adorations from true fans, there are those who rant about the "lesser" entertainment values we get from Remember, and the many plot-holes we angst, and the minor murmurs like YSH cried too much, or PMY looks like ahjumma to YSH and not matching... but worst are even some very insensitive, indifferent and injuring comments about adding Romance is unnecessary, saying Jinwoo need not have loveline with Inah, can just be friends, or even ask for tragedy ending to make given something more to the story to make them excited and not boring... These comments are more cruel than NGM’s fury, when they are sounding ‘convincing’ and did convinced people.
does people really know how much support Alz patients and caretakers needs, even those ranters has family member or relative died of old age, and they get thru well, doesn't given the rant the right to demand sad ending. when i read some comments, it just ruined me.
think its high time to be slower to run our fingers thru this keyboard to rant, but to pause and ponder....
there are fans watching this having such patients suffering from Alzheimer's in their family, there might even be fans who have just find out they are starting to have this sickness, or even fans just mourned the passing of a beloved friend taken by Alzheimer's, though i have witnessed quite a handful in my church or relatives, but i have never personally seen a very young Alz patient as young as JW's 23 yrs old. That's said, its still call for our respect to handle such a 'taboo' topic, as solemn of This Alzheimer's. We may plea with the Crew or Casts to handle the character strickened with Alz with respect, so just not to provoke real people behind the LCD watching Jinwoo, we may warn writernim the seriousness of touching such a sensitive sickness, even more aching than Cancer. But voiced with sense, and sensitivities. Before we rant that JW's 23 yrs old Alz sound impossible, go google first, and read real life stories.

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Yoo Seungho has earned my respect, (and i believed not just mine, but many others also), for taking on this behemoth role, feeling and crying and living and loving in it for 3 good months. i believed by end of ep20, he will become more mature, and will take on new look at life and death and sickness, whenever he see an Alzheimer's fan. Even as he take on other roles in future, he will remember this Seo Jinwoo and the many patients like seo jinwoo in the world.  He doesn't just remember Seo Jinwoo in his mind, he will be grateful that he just live 'them', those real Seo Jinwoo in the world, and experienced the many Seo Jinwoos for 3 solid months.

Yoo Seungho, i salute you.
Seo Jinwoo, i will remember with respect those many Seo Jinwoos (real people like you), more.

real story of 30 yrs old Alz patient:
http://www.everydayhealth.com/columns/my-health-story/alzheimers-at-age-30-an-old-persons-disease-hits-a-young-family/

sister odilettante, please allow me to share some thoughts with chingus here to feel that Remember is not just an ordinary Thriller only, its of another league when you touch rare taboo topic that may break or make lives of viewers, or inspire people to be more sympathetic towards such people around.
thanks a lot.

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nice one, maryofbethany you,ve said it all, I always like youi posts..

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Warrior cruel... (this is how we call each other at another site soompi, while dramabeans is always my 'childhood' KD home where i lurk and don't share, only climb out of my turtle shell by changwook and minyoung's Healer, to share)
then i 'grewup' and find other house, but will always come back here for Beanies recappers thoughts.
my thoughts always stir some controversies and invited some 'wars', nothing like what Kyu-man can rampage, but good enough to stir contention, so i always shy off when a crossfire started because of me.
i always find refuge back here. was hoping recapers can go on to ep 17, 18..then i can talked about the transforming events in 17.18 without causing spoiler.
nevermind, recapers have their stress in their real live outside this escape-world of beanies, cannot rush them.
thanks for your very kind words.

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What's somewhat frustrating to me about this drama, is that Jin Woo isn't as street smart as I hoped he would be. It sucks that he has memory problems too. It all seems so pointless if he's going to end up losing his memories like his father. I do think yoo seung ho is a good actor, but he's a bit rusty from not acting for so long while in military service.

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@maryofbethany, you are welcome dear...

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@crystal, I don't think anything is wrong with seung ho, s acting in this drama, I agree that for the first few episodes, his acting was kinda boring, but he up his acting since episode 6, infact he deserves best actor for this year, I think he's smart though, no one knew about what he planned with prosecutor tak, we were surprised to find out that, that was his plan..

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