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Beans of Wisdom: VVar of the VVigs

This week in Beans of Wisdom…

franbergh has a question about chaebol population distribution in comment #8 of “News bites: June 18, 2016”:

i’m seriously begin to wonder.. is there a lot, like a very lots of single ‘chaebol’ in south korea? maybe i’ll try to go there and find one.
what i learn from kdrama, its like theyre scattered around..


To which mk suggests this simple test:

Throw a rock into a crowd, hit a chaebol, fight with him, get married.

While anugp61 warns us about extra requirements:

Oh but to snag a “chaebol”, you have to be a plucky, sweet, hard working candy girl-from a middle(or poor) class family (or from an orphanage) . Preferably with a birth secret.Oh and also a bit of childhood trauma would also increase your chances of snagging up the aforementioned chaebol

And cherkell talks real estate:

Don’t forget renting a Rooftop Apartment as well; the more steps to get up there, the better. Preferably with a spectacular view of the Hangang and a fab greenhouse thrown in for good measure, so the chaebol can visit in order to get away from all his chaebol troubles.

Eventually you’ll come down with an incurable disease from living in such cold and drafty squalor… but on your deathbed, tell the world that you were a rich heiress all along and leave your fortune to help other Candy Girls obtain their own Rooftop Apartments.

YY tells us to have some patience:

Down a dozen bottles of soju, and position yourself carefully in an elegant sprawl across the steps . It may take a long, long time, but the Good Lord will surely reward you for your patience, and one day, that beloved chaebol face will loom over you, at which point you will sway to your feet unsteadily, slur drunkenly, “O-p-pa! F-i-n-a-l-l-y!”, and attempt to clamber on his back for the piggyback you’ve been waiting a decade for.

While zappy warns of the dangers of dating chaebols:

but you have to fight with evil chaebol mom, evil fiancee/exgf and the worst of all, you’ll get amnesia hehehe

 

In “Mirror of the Witch: Episode 11,” Marina answers some questions on why everyone finds Yeon-hee’s transformation scary when it’s just a white wig and blue eyes. In comment #6.1.1, she writes:

You guys have to remember that this drama is set centuries ago. Even today, people still stare at someone young with natural (even dyed) white hair. Also, Malawi’s albinos (usually white hair, light eyes) are at risk of extinction because their body parts are believed to bring wealth and good luck, so they are being killed and their organs sold.

I think it’s very believable that someone so young with white hair and blue eyes would be considered a monster centuries ago when people were even more superstitious.

Come to think of it, I used to find colored lenses and unnatural hair dye creepy until I saw kdramas and then kpop. Now it’s all “art” to me. See?

Art.

In comment #12, Miranda shows some love for our favorite villain, Hong-joo.

Hong Joo is well-written, but the character could have been any other drama villain with another actress cast in the role. This actress is terrifyingly compelling, she is doing an incredible job.

I love the look of wonder that frequently crosses her face when something unexpected happens – whether that’s someone’s reaction or a mystical happening. Too many evil shamans are totally in control and self-assured, but somehow this actress makes it seem like Hong Joo is right on the edge of a whole lot of things. She makes it seem like she’s very skilled in black magic but that the magic is unpredictable and requires quick instincts and thinking to stay in control, and that flows over to the political scenes too.

At the beginning I thought she was scenery-chewing and she still does hit those notes sometimes, but more often the microexpressions on her face are holding my interest. At the end of this episode, for instance, her entire ninja crew are levelled and yet she herself looks like fascination is more present than fear. Yeon Hui’s clearly about to go nuclear and Hong Joo can’t resist excitement that she’s witnessing this crazy new power.

Hong Joo legitimately seems like someone who’s fallen so far into black magic that her other end became completely untethered and she doesn’t see people as people, more as noisy chess pieces.

 

In “Dear My Friends: Episode 11” comment #9, WM paints the tragedy of Gu halbae’s character, Suk-gyun.

What you have to remember is Jung-Ah and Suk-Gyun are a different generation. They were raised in world where a wife took care of her husband, and the husband took care of the family (financially, not necessarily emotionally). Suk-Gyun truly didn’t see what he’d done wrong because, in his world, he’d done everything expected of a man from his generation. While the rest of the aunties and uncles grew and changed with the times, he simply didn’t, perhaps couldn’t, change. Jung-Ah, being the dutiful wife, didn’t change until confronted with the fact that she was becoming her mother, trapped in a situation that enslaved her not just to Suk-Gyun, but to her daughters, as well, and it was slowly killing her. The fact that Jung-Ah needs to sleep so much to catch up on the sleep she was lacking speaks volumes. Did they both make big mistakes? Yes, but I think that’s true for most relationships (not just marriages, but friendships, too). Now that Jung-Ah has taken a stand and is determined to change her life, Suk-Gyun is going to have to get on the train or be left at the station.

 

Over in “Beautiful Gong Shim: Episode 11,” the main trio are so cute together that they’re effectively killing all shipping wars. This means our beanies are free to discuss more Important Matters such as Gong-shim’s wig. Adal says in comment #8.1:

With the wig on, she’s Gong Shim and not Minah, but when she takes the wig off, then we see more of the idol in her.

Maybe that’s why the PD doesn’t let her take the wig off anymore, even when she sleeps? Kind of unrealistic, like sleeping with your make up on and must be damned uncomfortable too.

Jenn has a more decisive opinion:

It makes me crazy and I want the wig off or at least make it realistic, so she doesn’t sleep with and wake up without perfectly straight!!!

But really I want her to accept her stress and bald spot and I don’t feel like there can be any character growth without that wig coming off!!! She’s hiding behind it and the symbolic reference to it is obvious…wig off ASAP please show!!!

While blnmom makes the debate official:

I guess if we’re not going to have a shipping war, we can have a wig on/wig off war.

In “Beautiful Gong Shim: Episode 12,” comment #1.4, JesO lays out some good points for Team Wig Off.

I really think the wig is a metaphor for GS insecurities, and hair is just another part of herself that she feels she needs to be ashamed about. It’s a comfort mechanism, why else would anyone in their right mind wear a wig while sleeping ( ichy and uncomfortable to the 10000 degree).

I don’t like the wig because I feel like it’s not who she is or who she wants to be. We’ve gotten used to it because it was introduced to us at the beginning of the drama, but It’s artificial. It’s not truly her. It’s something she’s hiding behind.

Thirdly, she truly doesn’t want to have to wear the wig; hence the dream sequence of being able to take it off with DT.

Lastly, when she feels that she is accomplishing her goals and feels that she’s found her place in life, her hair will grow back, and that’s something to celebrate.

Off with her wig!

What a dangerous time to be a wig…

Speaking of dangerous, BC shared this brilliantly edited video in comment #9.4.1 of “Oh Hae-young Again: Episode 16”

there is this video from soompi which killed it! I would love to see this kind of drama for once…
so if Oh Hae Young again would be a thriller:

 

W’s two parallel universes have nothing on cali‘s spaghetti story as she comes back to connect every drama in the sun. See if you can guess all the dramas she references in comment #1 of “Lucky Romance: Episode 9”.

AND YOU GUYS THOUGHT I WOULDN’T RECAP THIS

in tonight’s episode of reply: she was a pretty vampire idol who walked in the night into a ramyun shop, mukadil has started playing tennis to ease his homicidal urges and inexplicably moves to canada (idk to be closer to all the american vampires that live in washington?) yang eun bi funds his passion by using her ramyun chops and her husband’s sleazy miss korea investment funds from the 90’s.

because he LITERALLY lost the girl to half of the tomorrow cantabile supporting cast, jung hwan turns to the one thing that has remained cool since the 80’s, computers.

kim hye-jin lost ji sung joon because he kept drinking water from the flower vases and he got e.coli and died in 2 seconds (k drama logic, totally happened just like i said). she decides that dating a slightly smarter, less assy nerd might be a better life choice. something something tigers, something something why didn’t you just pick siwon the first time around.

somewhere in all of this, song jae rim would make it all better. he should cameo and then maybe i’ll watch it regularly.

 

pogo has been having keyboard problems this week which started in comment #1.1.2 of “Teddy bears and high school uniforms for Uncontrollably Fond.”

if you vant to see Kim Voo Bin as a puppy you should vatch Vampire Idol, he vas such a dork there and his love line vith Lee Yubi vas beyond adorable, even when she vas vearing a giant rabbit head. And it vas totally reciprocated!

(sorry for the veird spelling, my keyboard is broken and von’t let me type the letter after v in the alphabet and I never realised before it is in SO MANY VORDS)

But she didn’t let a broken keyboard stop her. In the same post:

He should learn to do the cute/sveet thing better if that is vhat this drama requires, it really does not vork vhen he tries to play some nice college boy, he just ends up coming off like a dinosaur vearing a Totoro costume. And not even in a cute vay, just a bit…. defanged.

We asked Voo Bin for comment, and he seems to agree about being a cute dinosaur.

Purple Owl replied in #29.2

I’m sorry about your keyboard, pogo. But I hope there’s comfort in knowing it has made me smile, multiple times, in a really difficult 30 hours!

Yes, vve heart you, pogo! Hope your keyboard gets fixed soon.

 

(This is the Dramabeans Commenting Policy. Read and pass to five friends or you will get bad drama luck. A friend read the comment policy and shared it to five people. The next day, a geeky tiger started texting her with emojis. One beanie didn’t read it and her Oppa went to the army in secret after his last show got 0.2% ratings. Please don’t ignore. This is true.)

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If I share it to 10 friends, do I get the very geeky and dorky tiger to *spend* a night with me? Obviously, the very innocent type of one night...

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Our Innocent Nights promo is sold out, but if you share within the next 15 minutes, we'll ship Amy to Canada. Tax-free!

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NO! If Amy goes, then Gary goes, and I really like his voice. yes, just his voice. I promise.

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Hmm... since An is sending it to 15 people, then you can send it to 16 to counter her wishes :P And if you send it to 20, we'll throw in Gary's lucky red underwear. 25 with free ironing.

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Lmao! That annoying Facebook-type ending

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The chaebol comments and cali are the best. Especially the e.coli death displaying flawless kdrama logic XD.

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Lee Soo Hyuk will forever be Mukadil. Methinks he is more effective as a vampire idol or as an evil vampire named Gwi, cold hearted and cruel. And if he is in human form, he would be best as a cold and cruel bastard chaebol. If he smiles, he gives me the creeps, like he is trying to be charming but we all know he just wants to my sweet blood for him to immortal forever.

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Long live Mukadil/Gvi!

(and cali is an evil genius, her comments making an aU version of dramas are alvays more memorable than the dramas they're about - see: Scholar VVho Valks The Night)

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it was a verrrrry good week in Beans of Visdom, thank you all *insert widest Su Ho smile here*

esp Mary for rounding them up!

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Love this week's selection. Video link and art on won bin. I know to be true that it perfectly became acceptable for me to see fair dyed hair on Asian men and eyeliners,too. In my mid-50s, love how g-dragon and TOP looks. What Kdrama has done to humdrum lives! DB rocks!

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Not WON bin, VOO bin. :-)

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vhoops.

See, novv that last gif is a version of Kim Voo-bin I can totally get behind, he is adorable. A lot like his Vampire Idol self, actually.

Didn't vatch more than a couple episodes of Beautiful Gong-shim but that discussion about her vig is amazing and I vish I vas caught up on the drama just so I could join in!

(also didn't catch up on this veek's OHYA either, I feel like I 'm missing out on discussions)

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also that dinosaur 'costume' in the gif makes me think it's a good match to coordinate vith his girlfriend's rabbit head in VI. :)

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Pogo, are you the famous count von count on ontd? The vs tipped me off.

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????

I googled, and the only result for 'count von count and ontd is something about fanart of him punching out Edvard from Tvlight.

(also I didn't even knovv vvho count von count vas before this veek - I didn't grovv up vith Sesame Street)

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Does DB staff mean tat anyone from DB maybe writing this? But this i so mary ?

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That*
Yeah that!

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VVe <3 you, mary!

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Alongside mary i love your VV pogo

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I wonder why weren't the comments in the article related to SJR posted. According to me they were by far the most hilarious comments in DB.

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The one about Dracula the kdrama fan vas my personal favourite, I'm still [email protected] image.

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I loved them but was cautious about appearing biased. Hahaha

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That thread was quite long though. Could have a second edition just for that conversation. Title - "Beanies Search for Mrs. SJR"

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yay! thanks for the shoutout DB!

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"One beanie didn’t read it and her Oppa went to the army in secret after his last show got 0.2% ratings."

This threat is so not working on me, my oppa is already in the army.

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*uses puppy eyes instead*

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Can't help but wonder 0.2% in ratings...
Do tell, please...please...who was the Oppa and what drama was it?

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Lee Jong-hyuk or Lee Chun-hee? >_<

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I was told by Koreans from Korea that the way Chaebeol is used on dramabeans is incorrect... ^^;; Chaebeol refers to a conglomerate, not a person. A person isn't a Chaebeol...... like a person isn't a conglomerate, though in the US conglomerates are apparently people.

Just pointing it out...

BTW, revised would be Jaebeol.

I'm going to trust the native Korean speakers on this. (Along with the pronunciation of ssi having NO h whatsoever. And Yoon Je Yoon... being Yoon Je Yoon...)

I don't know what Seoullites think anyway, since they laugh every time I slip into Saturi by accident.

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Eh, transcription of Korean into Latin letters always seemed a bit murky and complicated to me (like the Busan/Pusan conundrum and many more like it with the voiced-voiceless consonant pairs).
The -shi in ajusshi and the like seems like an adaptation so its easier to read/see the sch/sh sound (like in SHout, for example).

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Oh, Korean romanization is awful. There are, like, three different ways to transliterate everything. I got so sick of finding out I was mispronouncing things because of strange romanizations that yesterday I finally hunkered down and learned hangul. I'm going to keep practicing until it is second nature, but it's quite fun. Each syllable block is like a puzzle right now, hehe.

I've always hoped that some romanization system would become standard for Korean like it has for Japanese. When I see a romanized Japanese word I know exactly how to pronounce it without sounding TOO silly (although I also now know hiragana and katakana). I get that Japanese has fewer sounds and is by and large easier to pronounce, but I still want the same to be done with Korean.

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Also, did everyone else have that moment when they found out that "Lee" has no "L" sound in it and "Park" has no "R" sound in it?

I was almost mad! Lol. Whose stupid idea was it to transliterate those names like that?!

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I do not speak Korean, but you have to understand that when it comes to the transliteration of languages into other languages that the interpretation of sounds is different in both languages. Those sounds are in fact not the same, but the brain of the listener interprets the sound into their own lexicon, and matches to the closest equivalent. Thus the Korean "ssi" sounds like the English "shi" to a native speaker of English. It's the same reason Rs and Ls seem interchangeable in Japanese, they only have the R sound in the language, which happens to encompass the English L. Sorry this was an unnecessarily long explanation more simply answered by PBY.

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Oops this was meant to be in reply to Kim Yoonmi. I fail at the Internet.

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~Shinri,

you have absolutely right! It took me a long time to realize the big problem with the letters L and R in some Asian languages. Pronunciation and phonology are so different from Latin-origin languages. I watched a documentary on how Japanese can be taught to pronounce those letters by using acoustics and the result was that it's kind of "mission impossible".

I usually use English words (or sometimes words from my mother language) that sound a bit similar in order to remember names or titles. For example, "shi" for "ssi", "won" (win-won) for "Won" Bin, gin for "jin", or my all-time favorite "I love Lee Tae-ri" ("I love Italy").

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Hello everyone!
I've been stopping by once in a while to download songs and read a bit. This beans of wisdom episode was funny!

I would love to know which oppa was punished by a beanie that didn't share. Please joom alyojo!

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We don't know if it's true. Those chain letters are tricky... >:D

(Also thanks for dropping by!)

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I'm in a Beans of Wisdom ? And it's the "v" version. Oh, happy day!

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Who are you? Where's Purple Ovvl? :O

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I'm very tempted to change it but I doubt I'll remember the variation 100% of the time. Idk if pogo vvants the reminder of "keyboard incident" forever, lol

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I laughed quite hard when I first read the "chaebol" thread as well as the "vvigs" thorough analysis.

I was pretty sure they would end up on "Beans of Wisdom" post. Some beanies were so inspired this week and for that they deserve an award. They entertained me through some very difficult days. RL can be a bi**h but my fellow beanies from all over the world are always amusing -even when I don't agree with the majority.

Keep it up, guys!!
THNX!! ;-)

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(This is the Dramabeans Commenting Policy. Read and pass to five friends or you will get bad drama luck. A friend read the comment policy and shared it to five people. The next day, a geeky tiger started texting her with emojis. One beanie didn’t read it and her Oppa went to the army in secret after his last show got 0.2% ratings. Please don’t ignore. This is true.)

now this after note was priceless, like damn what i would do to get a cute geeky tiger to text me emojis :3

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Oh my gosh, you beanies keep me giggling for days.

I have my very own nerdy tiger, but alas, he can't send me geeky emojis since he's deployed with the military- so I wonder what happens if I send this to 15 people?

On that note, thanks everyone for being my drama beanie buddies and helping to make pregnancy, grad school and deployment go by a little bit faster with a little more laughter.

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Holy moly, are you going through pregnancy, grad school and deployment all at once right now?

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Haha, yesss, but it's not too aweful. I only have two classes this summer! The worst part is missing my favorite person but thankfully he gets back a few weeks before the baby is born. ???

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Hope everything goes well!

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Your so kind. Thank you!

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I am very honoured to be included on bean of wisdom this week..
thank you ;)

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About snagging that Chaebol... Make sure to check your once childhood friends. Fate through childhood connections might be the ticket also.

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omg, the re-edited OHYA was great. I took a course in college and they showed these videos where students were required to take movie trailers and re-edit the trailers to make a totally different one. One was the Shining and was re-edited into a family comedy and was brilliant. This OHYA one was also brilliant!

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