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Uncontrollably Fond: Episode 7

Looks like I’m in this one for the long haul after all, and I’m glad because for a show that’s light on plot, Uncontrollably Fond still has me captivated with its sweet, melancholy storytelling style. Everyone’s emotions are becoming more confusing and entangled, causing some to become blunt and others to run away. But Joon-young is quickly running out of time, and he’s going to have to step outside of his comfort zone if he’s to get what he wants while he still can.

 
EPISODE 7 RECAP

As Joon-young hides alone on the island, he thinks back on the night before, when he’d watched over Eul as she slept. As it turns out, he’d brought her here to take her to that island, but he decided to go alone instead. “If I take you, I’ll want to hide you there so that you won’t be able to go to anyone else. So don’t ever appear before me. If I ever see you again, I’ll take you away.”

When Eul had shown up on the island and started yelling at him, Joon-young hadn’t been arrogantly dismissing her — he’d been so overcome to see her there he hadn’t been able to move. He’d stood and tried to walk away, thinking to himself, “One.” But Eul had stopped him again, telling him it’s not a dream, and he’d thought, “Two.”

She’d waved her hand in his face when he hadn’t responded… “Three.” Then he’d told her to go, and never show her face to him again. He’d left her there, wondering what she did so wrong, swearing she’ll never drink like that again.

But Joon-young hadn’t gone far, and Eul joins him again and offers him a yogurt drink. Heh, she’s so nervous she accidentally pokes him in the mouth with the straw. She apologizes for the night before, telling Joon-young that she can’t remember what she did, and he thinks, “Four.” Eul whines that she really wants to apologize but she has no clue what to apologize for, and Joon-young gets to “Five.”

Eul picks up when Ji-tae calls, and Joon-young’s expression grows wary even though he doesn’t move a muscle. Eul lies that she’s not with Joon-young, then immediately admits that she is. She tells Ji-tae that she made a huge mistake she has to make right, just as Joon-young sees the ferry and heads down to meet it.

Ji-tae is calling from work, so he shakes off his disappointment (with effort). But his assistant hands him some photos of himself with Eul and Joon-young after the concert, and the assistant says that he’s sure Jung-eun saw the photos. It’s a problem, especially since Ji-tae lied to Jung-eun about being at the concert, and because the assistant adds that it looks like she’s ordered a background check on Eul.

Joon-young is still ignoring Eul on the ferry, while she keeps complaining that she can’t remember anything about the night before. He thinks, “Six,” and walks away from her again.

Before he gets to his car, Eul jumps in front of Joon-young and admits that okay, so she does remember getting drunk and throwing a fit. She berates him for holding a grudge, but Joon-young holds his tongue, and thinks, “Seven.” Eul braces herself and invites him to hit her, anything to make him talk to her, but he just pokes her in the face. “Eight.”

Joon-young just rolls his eyes when he finds Gook-young sleeping in his car, and Eul jumps in quickly before he can lock the door. At his glare, Eul says it’s his fault she got drunk in the first place, and straps herself in stubbornly when Joon-young mutters for her to get out. “Nine.”

So Joon-young gets out of the car instead, prepared to take a taxi back to the city. Eul follows and says that she really really doesn’t remember much, and she has no idea what she did to make him this angry. As she lists the things she does remember, Joon-young counts, “Nine and a half. Nine and three quarters. Nine and a half and a quarter and an eighth.” Eul admits that she even remembers him helping her change clothes, but Joon-young manages to hail a taxi and drive away.

Eul wakes Gook-young and the two drive back to Seoul. Gook-young asks Eul what in the world she did to Joon-young, but she’s still wondering that herself. It must have been terrible, but she really doesn’t know, and Gook-young bops her in the head to help jog her memory.

In his taxi, Joon-young only now remembers that he threw his phone in the ocean to prevent Eul calling Ji-tae again. He lowers his scarf to ask to borrow the driver’s phone, and the driver recognizes him.

Ajusshi catches Joon-young’s mom stress-eating and takes the food away, knowing she has a sensitive stomach. Despite herself, she’s visibly relieved when Joon-young calls her from the cab driver’s phone, though she yells that he has the wrong number and hangs up.

Mom lies that it wasn’t Joon-young, so Ajusshi calls the number back to check. Awww, Joon-young’s wide happy smile, thinking his mother is calling him back, falls painfully when he hears Ajusshi’s voice instead. Ajusshi fusses at Joon-young for worrying his mother, and in the background Mom yells that she wasn’t worried at all.

But Joon-young smiles, and says that he knows his mom is worried about him. Ajusshi asks how he got tangled up with a gold-digger (what everyone in the press is calling Eul), reminding him how Gook-young got hooked in by a gold-digger, lost everything, and went to jail. That’s when Joon-young bailed his friend out with his front money from the agency.

Joon-young says Eul isn’t a gold-digger, and Mom snatches the phone back, asking how he could have such bad taste in women. Joon-young smiles beatifically and tells his mom that he likes that girl, that he recently realized that he loves her.

Mom is stunned silent, and Joon-young continues that that’s why he’s running away. He didn’t know what he’d do if he kept seeing her, so he’s running away from her.

Gook-young tells Eul that from what he’s seen, Joon-young sincerely cares for Eul — he wasn’t joking when he confessed. Eul has a hard time processing this, thinking Joon-young must be insane to like her. Ha, Gook-young is all, I know, right??

Gook-young wonders if Joon-young is sick, having noticed that he doesn’t look well lately, and Eul tells him that’s enough: “I’m sitting right here!” She wonders, if Joon-young wasn’t joking and really does like her, what she should do about it.

Joon-young has the cab driver take him home by the back door, since his house is swarming with reporters. He checks in with Pororo, then suddenly his head starts to ring and his vision blurs. He makes it inside as the pain intensifies, and he collapses on the floor smacking his head, trying not to pass out.

Ji-tae’s mother learns from a hospital contact that Joon-young is very ill, possibly dying — it’s a brain stem glioma, a cancer known to be very aggressive and highly deadly. Ji-tae’s mother asks if Joon-young’s mother knows about it, and she’s told that he’s keeping it secret for now.

Ji-tae’s father is in a meeting, arguing that it’s time to let one of their political partners go, since he’s been caught for embezzlement and tax evasion, among other things. Assemblyman Yoon, Jung-eun’s father, counters that they’ve all made mistakes and that politics is about helping each other. Ji-tae’s father disagrees, but Yoon just laughs in his face.

Haru is upset about the negative articles discussing Joon-young, and she tells her maid again that she plans to marry Joon-young (someone please tell this girl he’s her half-brother). The maid just tells her to get out of the bathtub and stop fussing, but Haru can still smell garbage on her skin and refuses to get out.

Jik goes looking for Ji-tae where he claims to have lived for the past two years, but the building owner has no idea who he’s talking about. Ji-tae calls and has to think fast when Jik says where he is — he says he moved, and offers to meet Jik at his workplace.

He shows up dressed in his Hyun-woo clothes, and Jik sits down to explain what he wants. He tells Ji-tae that Eul used to have a crush on Joon-young back in school (he knows because he read her diary — bratty little brothers…), but she gave up on him because he was dating her friend. So Jik is worried now that Eul will fall for Joon-young again if he shows interest in her.

Ji-tae is unsettled, but he brightly says that it might be a good thing if a star like Joon-young liked Eul. Jik says that they live in different worlds now, and he wants his sister to meet someone closer to her own level. Specifically, he wants Ji-tae/Hyun-woo to date Eul.

Joon-young wakes from his episode covered in sweat, exhausted and disoriented. He takes some painkillers, and goes to the living room to find Eul in his kitchen cooking dinner. She burns her finger, and without a word he grabs her hand and runs cold water over it, and they both seem unsettled to be so close.

Eul tells Joon-young that Gook-young let her into the house, and he thinks to himself, “Nine and a half and a quarter and an eighth and a sixteenth.” Heh. He drops Eul’s hand and walks out, leaving her grumbling that she’ll just eat all the food herself. She wonders why Joon-young is so determined to avoid her, and he comes back into the room and shuts all the blinds and turns off the lights.

His agent tells his reporter contact that Joon-young isn’t home, and that the lights turning off and on are just an assistant there to feed Pororo. He says that Joon-young is with his manager, reflecting on how he did wrong by confessing to a girl in front of his fans, and definitely not with Eul.

He even lies that Joon-young already has a girlfriend, his recent drama costar Yuna (the actress whose party he sang at a little while back). He claims — while throwing things at the objecting Gook-young — that this whole thing with Eul is really just a ploy to draw attention from Joon-young’s real relationship.

Jung-eun primps for a date with Ji-tae, and tears up the photo she has of him with Eul at Joon-young’s concert. She accepts roses from him and asks for a kiss, uncaring that they’re in a public place. Ji-tae doesn’t object, but when Jung-eun leans close, he says that he knows she saw the picture of him.

He rattles off everything he knows about Eul in this emotionless voice, saying that now Jung-eun doesn’t need to do a background check. Jung-eun angrily asks what his relationship is with Eul, but that’s the one question he won’t answer. “If I answer that question, I won’t be able to keep my promise to you.”

Jung-eun asks if he likes Eul, raising her voice, and he confirms that he does. Jung-eun throws her glass of wine in his face, and spits that the meaning of the Christmas roses he gave her is that he has nothing to give her. Ji-tae agrees, and Jung-eun warns that she’ll make him regret this moment.

After she leaves, Ji-tae sits with wine still all over his face, and finishes off the glass. He pours himself another glass, filling the goblet to overflowing.

In his dark house, Joon-young tells Eul that the reporters are still outside. If the lights are on, they’ll think he’s home. He figures they’ll be gone in a couple of hours, and Eul can leave then. She tells him a spooky story, trying to scare him, but Joon-young just calmly says there’s a ghost right behind her.

Eul looks and screams — it’s just his manikin, but she hides her face in the couch cushions. “Nine and a half and a quarter and an eighth and a sixteenth and a thirty-second.” Joon-young smiles a little, and sits next to Eul after turning the lights back on now that the curtains are down.

He says in this deadpan voice that he did that because he wanted to make fun of her, and Eul pushes him over and straddles him to shake him. But Joon-young’s mood changes… “Ten.” He says that he tried to run away, counting to ten to help steady himself, and he suddenly sits up, making Eul rear back.

He says again that he tried his best to run away, but “You’re the one who decided to stay.” He reaches up to tenderly brush the flour off Eul’s nose, and there’s a long charged moment (in which I notice Eul doesn’t even try to get off his lap), but then he brightens. “I’m hungry. Let’s eat.”

Dinner is pretty fancy, with wine and candles, and Eul asks why Joon-young’s attitude changed so quickly. He pretends he has no idea what she means, and eats her food with relish even though Eul knows it’s too salty. He checks her burned finger and hops up to get some medicine for her blister. While he’s gone, she tastes the food, and it’s so salty she has to spit it out.

Awww, Joon-young is really rushing to the bathroom to throw up (I guess those acting skills just came in pretty handy), but he manages to keep the food down. He laughs to himself over how terrible it tastes, and heads back to the table to choke down even more. That’s so sweet.

It’s interesting how Joon-young is back to his old charming self, but he seems to have lost the sharp edge that his expressions and tone of voice used to have. Now his teasing just seems playful instead of slightly malicious, and Eul is understandably suspicious of his sudden change in attitude.

She says that someone who changes so quickly is usually about to die soon — she means it as a joke, but it hits close to home. Joon-young only falters for a second, then he shakes it off.

Ji-tae meets with Eul’s roommate Na-ri, and it’s cute how she’s gotten all gussied up in case there were reporters waiting for Eul outside their place. She tells Ji-tae that Eul isn’t home, and her phone battery is dead as well.

He makes an educated guess and goes to Joon-young’s home, and sees the reporters packing it up for the night. His father calls to invite him out for a drink, promising he won’t get drunk this time. For once Ji-tae declines, and he tells his father to go home and spend time with Mom. But Dad takes out the card from Madam Song, and goes to see her instead.

Apparently this is a regular thing — he goes to see her, and just looks at her while she sits quietly. He doesn’t talk to her or even touch her, but just drinks. Madam Song knows that he’s here because she looks like an old love of his, and asks about her.

Looking haunted, Assemblyman Choi admits that he loved her a lot, and that he did her wrong in a lot of ways. Madam Song is impressed, and asks Assmeblyman Choi’s permission to like him, but he doesn’t give it. He refuses to let any more women in his life.

Ji-tae’s mother waits at home for her husband, and her assistant calls to report on Assemblyman Choi’s whereabouts. Over at her restaurant, Joon-young’s mother is lost in thought, and at Joon-young’s house, Ji-tae rings the doorbell.

While Joon-young stares at Ji-tae on the security camera, Eul tosses Pororo a sausage, apologizing for making him stay out in the cold. She promises him that she’ll take medicine next time, which, awww. She wonders if she’ll be able to continue filming Joon-young’s documentary, now that all his fans are out to get her.

When Joon-young doesn’t answer the door, Ji-tae just talks to the camera instead. He says that the reporters are gone so he can let Eul go now, growing angry, and Joon-young quickly turns off the screen when Eul comes inside.

Joon-young quickly says, “Rock paper scissors!” and Eul reflexively throws out paper, losing to Joon-young’s scissors and getting stuck with the dishes. Na-ri calls her now that her phone is charged and asks if she’s seen the news, yammering that Joon-young must be crazy.

Joon-young goes outside to talk to Ji-tae, who is now banging on the wall to try to get Eul’s attention. Joon-young says, through the wall, that he’s not letting Eul go, that he plans to keep her. Ji-tae says that Eul isn’t a thing, but Joon-young continues that Ji-tae let go of her hand, so he needs to stop regretting his choice and stay away from her.

Ji-tae agrees that he doesn’t deserve her, but Joon-young is even worse than he is. Thinking about what Joon-young did to Eul, how can he even look her in the eye and say he likes her? He’s referring to Joon-young causing Eul’s accident and nearly killing her, and Joon-young knows it.

Eul comes outside and calls to Joon-young, unable to see Ji-tae on the other side of the wall. Ji-tae listens while Joon-young lies that he reporters are still here, but Eul wants to talk about Joon-young’s supposedly dating Yuna.

This is the first he’s heard of this, and Eul tells him that the story came straight from his agent and that she’s supposedly just a tool to deflect attention from his real girlfriend. Joon-young denies it, but Eul believes the story, thinking there’s no way he would really like her.

She doesn’t listen to Joon-young’s continued denials, and reverts to her old tricks, demanding money for her emotional trauma. She starts to storm off and Joon-young stops her, telling her to listen to him and not anyone else. He stops her from walking away again, and looks her right in the eye: “I love you. I love you, Eul-ah.”

But she still doesn’t believe him, blaming his acting skills for his ability to say such a ridiculous thing. With tears in his eyes and voice, Joon-young repeats himself, but though Eul looks as though she badly wants to believe him, she remembers that Jik warned her to be careful around him.

Crying, she repeats her brother’s words that they live in different worlds now, and that she shouldn’t get confused by his attention. She yanks her arm from Joon-young’s grasp, and yells that she’s the crazy one.

Unable to hold back anymore, Joon-young grabs Eul’s face and kisses her.

COMMENTS

Wow, I was expecting that, and yet I wasn’t. I didn’t think Eul was ready for that, and I fully expect her to make Joon-young pay for that kiss. I find it interesting though, that as glib as Joon-young is normally, once he was faced with something that truly mattered he spent the whole episode not speaking, almost as if he was afraid of what he might say. That more than anything convinces me that what he feels for Eul is real, because she’s the only person that render his speechless with fear that he might push her away.

While I agree that Joon-young’s actions in trying to make Eul fall for him are supremely selfish, given that he’ll be dying soon and will leave her grieving, somehow I can’t really blame him. It’s like he’s being the opposite of the Noble Idiot — he’s grasping at any chance of happiness he can before he dies, wanting to experience love just once while he can, even if it hurts Eul to fall for him then lose him. At least we did see him try to shake her off, and give her a chance to run away, but in Joon-young’s defense Eul did keep coming back to him.

In the same vein, I can’t exactly condone Joon-young’s mother’s treatment of her son, but I can also sort of understand why she’s so upset. As a single mother, she’s faced years of ridicule and social exclusion because of her son, and all she wanted was for him to become a prosecutor and give back to society. That way, she could say to herself and others that it was worth raising her son alone, without a father. In Korean society, being an actor isn’t exactly a prestigious career despite the fame and money, especially when Mom has no idea why Joon-young suddenly gave up a good education to go be an actor. It’s obvious she loves her son, but she can’t help feeling that if she disapproves loud enough and long enough, he’ll comply with her wishes. We all know that nothing she does will either cause him to change his choices or stop loving her and trying to gain her acceptance, but she’s from an older generation, and she can only do what she thinks is the right thing.

I wonder if she knows how Joon-young’s father feels about her, that he truly loved her back then and he still loves her now. I’m so conflicted about him, because Assemblyman Choi really does seem like a good person — he’s loyal to his wife, he’s a good attentive father to his children, and he seems to have integrity in his political dealings. At first I thought he was a bad person, the way he manipulated the truth about Eul’s father’s death and ignored her attempts to talk to him about it, and there’s no doubt that what he did back then was despicable and unforgivable. But now that we know more about him, I tend to think that wasn’t an indication of who he is in general, but a one-time mistake that he’s probably still regretting. I’m not making apologies for him, but I definitely think he’s not some big evil politician out for only himself. That role seems to be filled by Assemblyman Yoon, who was the one who talked Choi into lying about his daughter’s involvement in Eul’s father’s death in the first place.

That’s what I really love about all of the characters in this show, in fact — they are all very real, flawed people. Joon-young is a grade-A asshole, and Eul is a liar and shamelessly uses people when she needs something from them. Ji-tae also lies about who he is entirely, and all of the parents do wrong to their children in multiple ways. Yet none of them are bad people, they’re just very human, who do their best but make mistakes and screw up royally sometimes. Sometimes we can understand why, and sometimes we’re mystified as to why they would behave that way to each other. But I sort of love them all for that, because it makes them relatable.

 
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Thanks for the fast recap LollyPip

This show is really every cliché rolled into one. That wine splashing incident? I saw it almost as soon as he started pouring wine in her glass! That wrist grab, that forced kiss, that lead with fatal illness, that rude and hard- to- read male lead - all of these tropes have been done to death in kdramas. The only thing different in the show is that the second lead is as mysterious to the girl as the first lead, which I guess is not a very path- breaking change.

So why is that despite all these age- old clichés, do I love each and every episode? Is it the fact that this is exactly the kind of shows which first got me started on kdramas, and even though I have graduated on to shows with more complex story-lines, there is nostalgia (funny word that,as I started watching kdaramas only a little more than 1 year back) attached with the plain old melodramatic romantic stories? Or is it Kim Woo Bin? It could actually be both. And I guess the show is smart in giving maximum screen time to our lead couple so that little moments spent on other characters or random backstory not involving the leads doesn’t let us get bored easily. The show knows its plus points and is utilising them well.

On the constant comparisons between W and UF, and the weird need for people to see W’s ratings soar just so UF’s ratings go down is beyond my level of comprehension. Both these shows belong to completely different genres and have a different set of target audience. Why does one need to put one down just to praise the other one? I love both the shows and hope they both succeed.

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I really like this show. I watch it and I'm like yes, this is how cheese should be done. It just has a very warm and fuzzy vibe, which is probably just the soft focus. UF is basically all ambience and feelings, but the romance works so well for me! I think it's like my DoTS or Doctors; a cheesy show which feels oh so right for some people and completely dismissed by others.

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My sentiments exactly! I love both W and UF and I'm so happy that I get so many good shows to watch.

We're in no position to 'prove' which is better - heck we're not even directly involved in the making of these dramas. The thing with fandom is that one party will always try to prove that he/she has better the taste or choice over things in life.

Why not just settle our differences and enjoy the fact that we have two dramas that are good in their own ways no matter the flaw?

I usually stay away from dramas full of Kdrama tropes. But I think Woo Bin has stolen my heart right from the beginning with his portrayal of JY that I can see past the hand-grabbing, wine-splashing scenes. I guess I am THAT easy to please but this show is heartwarming in its own way.

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"So why is that despite all these age- old clichés, do I love each and every episode? Is it the fact that this is exactly the kind of shows which first got me started on kdramas, and even though I have graduated on to shows with more complex story-lines, there is nostalgia (funny word that,as I started watching kdaramas only a little more than 1 year back) attached with the plain old melodramatic romantic stories?"

i've been wondering the exact same thing, except my kdrama watching began way back during those peak of melodramas - Autumn Tale, Winter Sonata, Love Letter, and the likes. watching UF brings me back to those times, i guess? especially when it comes to beautiful landscape cinematography.

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It is like those old K-dramas yes. Strangely everyone except the leads fits into the universe. The two seem rather miscast.

Goes to show I guess that it takes a particular kind of actor to carry a melo.

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"it takes a particular kind of actor to carry a melo."

Exactly. I love Woobin and his acting is usually better than this but not like even a young So Ji Sub, Rain, Song Joong Ki and other LKH leads. The character sounds perfect for him because top star and all but somehow it's not? But I still think he did really well in the scene with his mother's phone call, it was heartbreaking.

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I'm puzzling over the Woobin problem... I think he does "son angst", "violent teenager angst", and "gangster angst" well. But he's not very good at "lovelorn puppy angst". That's why when he's being melo with his mom and melo about his disease, you hurt for him. But the parts where he's just pining for his love don't have the same impact?

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Hmm maybe?

But in Heirs where he was pining over a girl as the second lead, he was still good! Even though I didn't like the girl at all and he wa a big bully, there was still chemistry between them and it was even a bit sexy? Even in scenes with Kim Ji Won, he wasn't pining but it was still sexy.

But his best scenes in that drama were also the ones with his mother so I agree he was better at playing a 'son' and 'friend' than 'pining lover'.

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@mary, @pigsnout I haven't seen KWB in any part before this (or Suzy) so can't compare.

The actors playing JY's parents are veterans at this so I think those scenes are good. Even the second leads, lil bro, Gook, Eul's friend, those are all typical melo parts and played just fine. But the leads....I don't find them intolerable, far from it, I think they are pleasant actors and trying to do their best. But something is missing, some vital melo X factor:) Right now 2nd lead is doing the usual mysterious, tortured, besotted much better?

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@pigsnout he didn't really pine much for Cha Eun-sang in Heirs. His pining was still tinged with the Bad Boy flavor. XD And his chemistry with Ji-won was the "We might be step-siblings soon but hot damn we're both sexy and evil". In UF, he's more the droopy kind of lover, right?

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Yeah he didn't pine much but there was still that scene where he found her at the village and the one where he told her they couldn't be friends because he would always see her as his first love. Not angsty but still with feeling.

He and Jiwon had the sexy personalitities-clashing kind of chemistry, it's true. But basically it's not like he can't look truly attracted to a girl, that is not his problem at all. But here I just don't really understand his character or feel it.

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Oh wow, pigsnout! You are well-versed in Heirs (or at least, Major in Woobinology?)

I bow down to your more detailed examples and just agree that there's something missing here in UF. It's not unwatchable (special note in case I'm marked as a hater), but we're aware these actors can do better.

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Wow mary totally agree on the nailing 'the angst-strenuous relationship with mother part',he really looks that part but lacks on the lover boy-angst image..and @pigsnout you're right, young do and his pining over his best friend's gf was what I looked forward to amidst the whole wreck of the drama heirs.
Somehow I find KWB doesn't have one ounce of chemistry with Suzy,on the contrary he had amazing chemistry with park shin hye and I also feel he would have been good with the guest actress too...lee yu bi.I have this odd knack of matching up actors as per personality,so IMO woo bin always needs someone who's quite his opposite,like someone more plain or less popular...like in case of heirs,heroine was more ordinary looking..so that's why his arc with PSH clicked more than the main pair of LMH-PSH,for me at least.

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@pigsnout In reply to your last post,yes,and also I totally fell for that scene when cha eun sung [sorry if I messed up the spelling] is eating ramen/falling asleep next moment,and young do is watching her sleep ..Err I honestly thought they were the main OTP..I do imagine though how heirs would have turned up if Young do 'was' the lead sigh.But KWB-PSH would be one stunning couple,that's for sure.
UF has got not a bad script,but something is missing,I wonder if casting teams do screen test for actors to see if they do really do justice to their onscreen attraction factor,like sometimes we have something in mind,but it just does not come off as perfectly.For me I think No Eul should have been someone else.Again, I say this just from my pov,not to bash the drama or any actor though.

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@mary lol yeah I really studied him, it was more fun to do than hating the story. That first love scene was really good though. It's funny I really hated PSH back then but now I can see she was a good scene partner for him.

The something missing is ok if you don't know his acting from before but for those who do its hard to not notice.

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@sky yeah the scene where he eats ramen outside and sees her, his gaze was really perfect there. Strange to say it about a high school drama but the way he looked at PSH and flirted with KJW was really sexy.

I also wonder if the story would seem less boring and Woobin more alive with a different leading lady, if I could actually like them. Kim Ji Won maybe? Or anyone.

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Maybe thts why im shipping PSH with young do over kim tan. He just to hot too handle and the way he tackle Eunsang md every women's heart hysteria.. (or myb pSH alwys mde his costar shining thn her?)

But UF not tht bad. I will watch it when this drama completed. Im watching ep 1-2 but drop it for a moment (currntly want to focus on doctors, cz i feel the ending is promising, im quite afraid with UF n W ending). Rating is not that importnt, many drama hs good storyline but got poor rating thought.

I am so lucky cz i have 3 interesting drama to watch for.

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about W/UF, I don't know. I still kept watching this drama and not W so obviously there something in it even if I just keep it in the background during meals now (that something is probably KWB)

But I feel like the negative feeling towards UF is because KBS hyped this drama so much that even we ifans couldn't avoid it. I feel like after all we expected from a star writer and two popular stars, it's lacking in both story and acting. And people are all 'see this is what happens when you hype names without looking at their acting or cliched script' unlike W which has a more original concept.

I mean, even as a fan of Woobin I feel like his acting is lacking compared to Heirs or School 2013, so when W is the competing drama people will naturally compare. Maybe it's harsh but I understand it a bit.

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Also the drama is constantly displaying woo bin's own image for show,like exhibiting the abs..was that really necessary? Do we need to know what aftershave superstars take after shower? :S Those shots are so cheesyyy, I felt embarrassed for KWB myself lol.I wish dramas stop doing these scenes.We are not at madame Tussauds museum,are we? :S
I say this because,dramas can either be meaningful,have this tone of melancholy and longing,or they can be cheery and bright,like gong shim.I thought UF was going for the former tone.But then they go back and show us no eul's over cheesy lines or those filler scenes of the supporting characters [ ex: Joon Young's mom's friend and his sons]..

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This drama (and the others airing) I just read recaps for now. I don't know how his acting is in this one, but maybe the thing is about his image and the character?

To me is kinda hard picturing him as sweet/oh poor little-big guy dying and in love, with his strong-muscular looks. And adding to that mix his previous work in School 2013 and Heirs, well is hard.

I think he's good as bully/strong guy but maybe he just doesn't want to be labeled as only being able to play those guys.

He can try to be a big fluffy teddy bear too :D ^-^

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I think he’s good as bully/strong guy but maybe he just doesn’t want to be labeled as only being able to play those guys.
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He could just try to stay in those genres too right? Sure there would be much variations in that area ..after all k-dramas are famous for the arrogant,rude,vicious but charming chaebols/doctors/salary man/director you name it.Basically woo bin could keep doing those roles and I won't get bored at all.

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Yes, he absolutly must try other roles apart from the bully. I want to watch him in this one to see him in a different character, because he was so good in Heirs (one of the few things that, at least for me, were good in that drama x_x) and School; he layed the bad guy but they were kinda o deeper, specially en School. His crying scenes OMG. I was hoping he and LJS's character coul just kiss to Break the tension. Cutest bromance ever.

As I said, he can be also a big-muscular sugar coated teddy bear too, I won't be mad ^,^ :D

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@sky @pigsnout I so agree with you guys!

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you're seriously underestimating KWB, if you think, that his acting in UF is worse, than in The Heirs or School 2013. Especially S2013. That show was a good start to him, but he was underused and underdeveloped. Writer was clearly more into Nam Soon and left Heung Soo in the corner. His crying, shouting, line delivery, emotional range in eyes in UF shows incredible grow of him as an actor from both his last drama projects. Same with The Heirs. Young Do was just more flashy, but Joon Young is his true brilliancy. He used so much nuanced acting, that it's kinda shame, that you don't see it.

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Oh this show is so nostalgically beautiful. They made the old cliche so beautifully and uniquely that the one hour episode flies like 5 min. Extremely love this show. ?
Despite all kdrama cliche I think all charachters are so unique and and flawed in a good way!

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Wowwww... exactly my feeling !! You have written it so very well. And I too love both the dramas. They are lovely in their own way!

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UF is for people that like Melos and cliches! Like you said, I've missed the old dramas that made me fall in love for Korean dramas!

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As if this show wasn't riddled with enough early 2000s cliches, they had to end it with a forced kiss. ?

I've been fine with the pace thus far, but getting through this episode felt like a burden. I'll give tomorrow's episode a chance, but if it doesn't impress me I think I'm out.

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And it all went down hill after this episode. The biggest troubling factor in getting through UF was SUZY!!. I can't stress enough how much Kdrama casting has to do better. I found myself fast forwarding through most of the scenes because they were either riddled with bad cliches or bad acting. Please lets have more then just a pretty face as our female lead criteria.

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I honestly thought her acting was fine here! Her crying scene in the end was really believable and her chemistry with Kim Woo Bin is off the charts. And if you're going to fast forward through most of the scenes then why even watch this drama at all and bring negativity to it.

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so true! i honestly dont think suzy's acting is that bad. i feel like shes getting a lot of heat and criticism for nothing when honestly theres been other dramas with much worst actresses but they dont get any beef for it...

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I stopped watching this drama a just because of the main leads' acting but still reading the recap. Because I like this writer's past works. Opps, maybe I should not say I like her plot, but I like how she was writing the leads in all her dramas and how those actors portraying their characters.

I have said this before, this writer story is cliche and just ordinary plot for melodrama. What is the focus would be the excellent acting from the main leads , not so much can be expected from the second leads due to the limitation esp the second female lead.

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I wis we got to see more of the second female lead, the character just seems to be written as a jealous bitch but the actress is good.

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Im Jo Eun deserves better role than jealous bitch. Hope she has better luck in the future.

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? I hope so too. But female second leads usually get crappy characters anyway, I can't hope here.

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Jealous bitch one thing, a very limited screen time even bigger issue. If she is able to be like Yoo In Young i will be happier. I mean YIY also did a lot of second leads but her presence can be felt.

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Suzy's voice is really unbearable (to me, only my opinion...), and now she does not even look pretty to me anymore... strange strange... I think I must have had enough of her... just her, others are still ok. KWB's mom is especially pretty with makeup on!

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I'm finding Suzy's voice pitchy and shrill when her character is angry or frustrated. Occasionally, the effort she is putting into her acting is clearly visible. That aside UF is fun and I keep coming back for more.

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I love this drama, I don't understand the ratings nor the hate, but to each it's own.

Thanks for the recap, looking forward to the next episode.

PS. I like W too, but UF takes the cake for me.

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yeah! i like both too :)

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what is the title of the song in 10:28?? in episode 7

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I think it's "A Little Beaver's by New Empire.

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*braver. Autocorrect. Oops. ?

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This episode makes me realise the power of "fan" love. Because i swear if it was not for KWB, this would be the point i finally drop the show.

But i can't because i know it will probably be another year or two before i see him in drama again. So i can't quit even though woobie himself has been patchy in places. But I think his scenes with his mom are excellent. Even the phone call.

He was my first Kdrama crush and hence i will continue to trudge along this show

Not that the main couple story is compelling, but everything else - the other couple (JE & JT), dad and madam song etc i pretty much fast forwarded bec it was so so boring.

what a letdown UF has been

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Same, I only keep watching this drama because of Woobin even though it's boring.

I hope he picks a better drama next time.

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I watched some of clips, and KWB is doing a decent job. Even though his bad boy image from School 2013 and Heirs stole my heart, but he is improving here.

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What I feel about this show is it's so cliché yet still has enough nee grounds to be both nostalgic and shocking at the same time. Like the hero almost killing his leady lady or the fact that the 2nd male lead is so involved in everything.

I feel like JiTae is a volcano, he hides his anger his emotions for so long that he is going to errupt and errupt in a big way. He has someone watching JE moves already. I was kind of sad for him to marry a woman he doesn't love or like for family obligations but now I am afraid for her because is one cold calculating man. He only shows warmth to his family and NE and NL.

JY, NE and JE I can guess where they are going but JT scares me with his hidden capacity.

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Joonyoung smile when his mother answered the phone paints all his love for her. And the pain when it wasnt her who called back. oomph. Kim Woo bin's acting in this scene is so real. It broke my heart. Im staying in this show so that I can see how they mend their relationship, especially with his death just around the corner, more than how the love story of the main leads develop.

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that scene was brilliant. i wanted to reach across and give him a hug.

someone here said that maybe he is one of those actors that needs good actors to bounce off from. maybe the thought has some merit bec All his scenes with mom are really heart breaking.

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And how cute was it that he sounded like a giddy five-year old kid when he finally got to talk to his mom!

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I really hope we do not have to wait until the last episode for all these secrets to be sorted out. And there are a lot of them. I hope they do all do not drag out too much longer, but given how things are going I am expecting to be disappointed.

Suzy isn't the greatest actress, but I am actually not to bothered by her performance in this. The one thing that amuses me is that she is supposed to be super poor, but somehow manages to have a cellphone and pretty expensive looking clothes. But I guess you can't have an idol superstar like Suzy wearing raggedy clothes.

And writing that makes me applaud Minah's performance in Beautiful Gong Shim, she totally changed herself for that role by hiding herself under that wig. I miss the quirkiness and fun of Gong Shim.

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In every kdrama they always have their resident poor girl have nice clothes and expensive phones. Boys Over Flowers, Heirs, etc. they all have the latest smartphones and I'm pretty sure it's because of product placement. If you notice, all the characters will have the same phones in a drama and that's probably because that phone company is sponsoring the drama.

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"The one thing that amuses me is that she is supposed to be super poor, but somehow manages to have a cellphone and pretty expensive looking clothes"

About the cloths part.I think this is one drama where i can say that the clothes the poor heroine wears completely matches the character (so far). Its not like BOF,where Geum Jandi is very poor but her clothes are totally cute and fashionable. The clothes Suzy wears in this drama are so plain to the extent that i can almost call some of them fugly. The oversized jackets she wears looks like she bought it in some fleece market. The jeans she wears looks raggedly and worn out,her shoes are also normal simple converse. The plaid shirt she wears while filming his concert too is pretty common and ordinary,which you can get in any street stores around Seoul. The sweatshirt she wears also seems like the ones college kids wear. In the house scene too,she is just wearing a plain black tutrleneck and pants. None of these looks like brand name expensive fashionable clothes though.

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I love how vulnerable Kim Woobin plays Shin Joonyoung. Especially the desperation with which he reaches out to Noeul in the ending part of today's episode.

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Thank you Ninja! I know some think this was a cliched plot move, but I saw it as an act of desperation by a man in love. He thought he would lose her in that moment and did the first thing that would prove how he truly felt.

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Love love today's episode and i agree with everything u said in the comment. They're all flawed but yet I still like their character. I hope there'll be more sweet scenes from our couple.

Don't know how to say this nicely but it's really disheartening when u want to enjoy a drama and then there's comment that really unpleasant to read. It's episode 7 already and if by now u don't like how certain actors played their character, the script, the direction then this drama is not for u. There's plenty other dramas that u can choose that are trendy and more un-cliché. Constructive criticism is very much welcome but the way i see now it's not that at all. People are now nitpicking over every little details that it's become so annoying. Acting is subjective. This drama hits all the feels for me. I can't pinpoint what that makes me stay every week but i did and I don't regret it to follow this drama. Sad that's not the same case for others.

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I totally agree with you on this, it's already ep 7 so if you don't like it, why stick around, right?! Some people seems to be watching the show just to bash it which is like counter productive in my opinion. This drama hits all the feels for me as well to the point that I subsribed Viu so that I can watch it immediately with sub ?

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Me too, I don't get why the same people keep coming back to Uncontrollably Fond recaps episode after episode to rant and whine about the same old thing.

I'm quite amazed at their doggedness at following this drama, despite hating it as much as they claim.

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tbh people can watch and still criticizing the acting of one character because that's not the only thing the drama has.

At least someone get an idea how the show become unbearable for them or how one cast bugged their system.

I think mentioning the not improving acting in actor is fine, it means they watched and they care.

Don't be too sensitive, just like how you really like it, people can watch that and disappointed by your reaction when don't get it. So as you said, remember it's subjective, unfortunately the majority of commenter may have the same subjective opinion.

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I get what Danni meant, and the critics people have been pouring here. I read the similar comments on each recap from different commenters. I complained too last week, but I kinda forget them all now because i've drawn into the story lol. It's kinda frustrating at times to read the (almost) same things every week, and kinda difficult to skip reading them because when trying to skim the comments section to find a discussion about the drama, one can't help but see all the ''critical' part and get bored(?).

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Agree.

I enjoy UF despite its many flaws as well as W because of its brilliance. To have people express so many negativity on UF is really disheartening - I mean, don't be such a party pooper.

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everyone should be able to express an opinion. You can always counter it or ignore it. Some time back, commentators (Doctors) were asking the recapper to quit they found the recap not fawning enough. Now that was rude. This is not a fan club.

Why someone is watching a show despite largely not liking it is completely their decision. I have watched bad shows sometimes simply because i had some free time in hand. the reasons can be varied. And this website is a platform for all as long as we keep it civil.

And still if anyone has a problem, by now they must have identified the people who "criticise too much" . Just don't read their posts and scroll forward.

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@bips99, precisely. This is a place to talk about the show - whether you love it or loathe it. Not unconditional support.

Some people will continue watching because they have the time or because they're hoping it will improve. Then they'll comment. If others don't like those comments, then don't read or respond to them. Pretty straightforward. If the critical comments are enraging to fans, then imagine how bewildering the fannish comments are to critics.

And I'll admit, I'm watching because I'm completely fascinated by the casting of Suzy. I want to see the scene or potential that convinced the director to cast her. And if that scene doesn't exist, I want to think more about what they thought they'd gain from gambling on a 20-episode show and burning through KWB.

I also experienced the same strange side-effect that someone else did in an earlier comment: at some point during the last episode, I found myself looking at Suzy and thinking "is she even that pretty?" Like the constant exposure is doing the opposite of what happens when a slightly unusual-looking actor has tons of charisma. Like Yoon Kyun Sang, who starts off every show looking meh in stills and then somehow has everyone loving him by episode 5. Somehow Suzy is impacting me in the opposite way: the more I see of her, and the thinner and weaker I find her acting, the less I think of her looks.

It's kind of startling.

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I agree with the comments on Suzy, in CF's and pictorials, she looks gorgeous but it doesn't seem to translate to the drama, the more I see of her, the less pretty she she seems to me. No offense meant to her fans!

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I think its the same principle as dating. You ask someone out because you like how they look. But the more time you spend with them, the less important those looks become

With actors, at the risk of sounding shallow, you want to watch good looking people. Its part fantasy, part aspirational. But after the initial attraction with looks passes, you want them to tug at your heartstrings.

Whats interesting is the length of this "look phase". For most actors, its a small time and then they need to prove that they are good actors.

But for some, it seems to continue for a long time. They build their whole career around it. Every film industry has gorgeous actors who have all the expressions of a wooden plank and you wonder how are they so successful? Eg: robert pattison.

Thats what makes me wonder - is it luck, fortunate timings, mediaplay, some unfathomable X-factor - what exactly is it?

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' is it luck, fortunate timings, mediaplay, some unfathomable X-factor – what exactly is it?'
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^^ bips99.,.Excellent point made,yeah to me at least 'that time of proving the worth being an actor' stands out more,like if some one like kim go eun would have been No Eul,I think I would be looking at her faces a lot, cause though her face is plain looking [ compared to suzy], there would be facial changes of expressions,we'd connect more to her state of mind,unlike suzy here.
After signal may be we got to know how good actors can really bring a difference to level of excellence in a drama...So just because of our crave for a heart beating,emotionally investing quality drama,we keep complaining girls.Sorry for being this way.

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I feel the same. The more I watch her, the more unattractive she seems. To me now, she is just plain.
Guess the styling , the makeup , the photographer and concept can do a lot to upgrade an image.
It is interesting how a person's skill can make them more attractive. One example is Jo Jin-Woong from Signal. Since watching his amazing acting in Signal, I found him more attractive.

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Well in terms of her looks I guess this really is her worst dressed/styled character. Not even tons of make-up in her face and they make her wear oversized clothes.

As for the attraction, it's opposite for me. I am used to seeing her so glammed up that when I watch her here, "dressed down", I've learned to appreciate her beauty more. She looks so simple and plain but she has this magnetic charisma that even if she's not front and center in that scene, I would take a second look at her. Also, for some reason, I'm into her exhausted/pitiful look. Like when she has puffy eyes from crying and red nose and looks exhausted. I like her in her quiet moments when the direcotr won't make cry cry out loud. I kind of want to give her a pat in the back everytime she looks exhausted and when she has that puffy eyes.

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If I may offer my two cents? I love looking at the recaps because the recappers provide their comments and analysis in a really mature (and enjoyable!) way, so I agree that the person who commented that they shouldn't was being very rude.

But, while I'm all for freedom of speech, I have encountered some comments that were also as rude as that one. In one of the reviews I looked at there was this comment that went like "I wonder if the Korean people who like this drama are stupid or prepubescent children because it sucks!" And another one that went like "Anyone with half a mind would agree that this drama is so much worse than the other one." I think at least one of them was even under a recap of a different drama. Those displayed such terrible behavior that I was worried about this community a bit.

I agree that stating your opinion and discussing about the show are perfectly fine to do, be it positive or negative. But there is a difference between an opinion and trashing things. If they result to insulting people for what they prefer, then that's taking it too far. It goes for both sides.

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I enjoy UF and I definitely am becoming a fast fan of Kim Woo Bin. I also do like Suzy but for some reason it seems like her acting isn't matching the level of intensity that Kim Woo Bin is. Especially during the intense emotional scenes. She not horrible but I'm not wowed. At first she seemed to be doing well but these last couple of episodes where she had to cry or express any intense emotions it was kind of like, "Oh... OK. That's it?" Hopefully it gets better because you can tell she seems a bit awkward during those scenes with Woo Bin so I'm sure it it change if she started to get more comfortable. At least I hope so.

And yes Lollypip, I agree! I need someone to tell Haru right NOW that Joon Young is her brother because ew! Every time she fawns over him, I'm like come on man. Her mom and brother know and they still let this girl act like this. Crazy.

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+1 for all your comment.

The thing is through all watching this episode, I keep thinking if another actress would be better than Suzy. Her face is blank in most of sence. Her acting is not as strong as Woo Bin. I'm now a new fan for him after this episode.

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Thanks lollypip for the recap, loved your comments at the end with regards to the characters being real, flawed people. No one is perfect as we are all human beings who makes mistakes as we go through life. On another note, everyone seems to be complaining about Suzy's acting but for me, her potrayal of No Eul is spot on. I have never been a fan of her acting but I am now. Same goes for Woo Bin, loved him in School 2013, and definitely head over heels here. Looking forward for this drama to unfold, it's not about the final destination, it's about the journey ?

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I can't understand why Suzy feels the need to raise her voice to shouty levels when she is trying to express frustration for her character. She does it everywhere. She is supposedly a working member of the media. If she wants to remain unobserved, why does she shout so much? Director's or actor's choice? Only know its a lousy choice because that's not acting. Pulls me right out of the scene--I have to mute that section.
When she's not shouting, she is actually doing a decent job portraying No Eul.

Reminds me of an SNL skit (US) where Will Ferrel played a guy who was unable to modulate the volume of his voice so he was always shout conversing with his co-workers.
Funny but incredibly annoying.

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In my opinion, the reason for the raised voice is she needs to hear herself at that point. She's not really shouting at JY, but more at herself. She's trying to convince herself that JY is the bad guy in all of this. She's mad at JY, as she thinks he's just toying with her, but more so, she's mad at herself for letting him get to her. I am guilty of this sometimes so I understand the feeling ?

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The first deep observation i've seen about NE. I agree with you. While watching that last scene all the negative comments about her raised voice in ep6 crossed my mind but even then it didn't bugg me. I could feel her, how else would one convey the sort of emotion you just poited out.
Suzy's acting is off at times yes, Like when NE pulled JY up and they were eye to eye and he touched her face, I would've preferred to see something change in her face or some body language, but she just continued with a blank stare. but Generally i find her portrayal of NE well enough and in no way as annoying as it is to some.

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I think the shouting is intentional. Noh Eul is sometimes stubborn like a kid. And sometimes, she keeps her misery on her own, quietly, just so she can protect her "Number One Treasure".

For example, she acts more protective and more mature around Jik. She's not acting immature or shouting or getting drunk when she's around family. She is this mature big sister around Jik. When their dad died, she just cried silently. When she got frustrated with her being jobless and no home, she just cried quietly. She would only nag at her brother when she thinks Jik is not eating meat or not sleeping well.
On the contrary, when she's left to deal with her own misery especially when it comes to her lovelife, this is when she becomes this girl who does things that are sometimes unthinkable (drown herself in Soju, drunk dial Ahjussi and beg for his love). All of a sudden she's like an annoying teenage girl who doesn't know how to deal with the boys around her. Eul cries so loud, gets drunk, shouts a lot, becomes stubborn, does stupid things (that super loud disguise). This is when the writing and editing turns cute and funny. Turning her into this "annoyingly in love/confused teenage girl" - since we skipped that part in the flashback. She had to grow up before she can even act stupid over boys, or for this matter over Joon Young. It's a melo overall, so injecting this side of Eul when she's still dealing with 2 boys in her life is a way for the writer, editor and director to turn things a little lighter.

So yes, I believe that the acting is intentional. And I don't take it against Suzy. In fact, I love that sometimes these characters are pitiful. Sometimes they're charming, funny, and can be really annoying and unbelievable. They're just like normal people. There will always be things that you would hate or nitpick about them, even your besets friend in the whole world. Just like what is pointed out in the end of the recap - these characters are like real people and I, too, love that about this drama. It's a veeeerrry common story, lots of cliche - but it's a breath of fresh air in a way that it's not flashy, the hero doesn't enter in slow mo as he is removing his sunglasses, the heroine isn't glammed up and is no way a goody good girl, they're cute and annoying at the same time. The cinematography is great too. Like one comment, I love that it is all about the feels and ambience. Some find these things boring but to me they are what makes me stick to this drama.

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honestly most of the time I wonder if I am just not a sophisticated enough kdrama viewer to notice if someone is bad at acting or not..unless they are really really really bad. I'd try to think of an example, but that would still be relative. Whenever I do think someone sucks I never can tell if it is them, the directing, the writing..or what.. although I must say I usually think to blame the actor/actress first because they are the visible ones.. :/ In any case I just want to say I am enjoying Suzy here as No Eul...it just works for me..idk why but it does and I love it. :)

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I think ifans get caught up in reading subtitles sometimes that they can't really catch how the actor is actually acting...maybe that's the case with you, it happens to me sometimes and I go back to actually get a sense of how the actor played a scene.

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If you want to be able to see if the actors can act or not, try watch without subs first.

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Exactly! Too many clichés + bad acting + bad plot

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Suzy is so pretty. She looks like a painting in all the screenshots.

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Kim Woo Bin is showing a lot of potential as a young actor through this drama. There's a certain "rawness" in his acting and I think he's the type who somehow "feeds off" of another person's acting intensity. He is able to throw dialogues and act scenes realistically if the actor with him demonstrates a certain intensity. That being said, I think Suzy is a bit lacking in that aspect. In the scenes where they are together, Kim Woo Bin outshines her even though I think his acting at that particular scene is definitely not his best.

I think I'm going to drop this drama. To be honest, Suzy's acting is just throwing me off. I'm sorry.

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It's time for LKH to retire her decade old plot devices, this episode was practically unwatchable.

You can skip through half the episodes for UF and still know exactly what is happening and there is zero character progression.

I'm not even going to bother addressing the After School Special level of acting from these leads, and yes I mean all four of them. The male leads have one facial expression the entire time aka perma-concerned, and the female leads have yet to learn how to enunciate in the language they grew up speaking smh.

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I never made it to the end of ep7, just kind of zoned out. It seemed like 90% of ep6 and ep7 consisted of Suzy screaming and whining, and complaining about what a bad drunk she is (hint - if you are a lousy drunk and get blackouts, perhaps it is time to cut back a bit).

Sorry writer, I am just not seeing much to go with here.

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this show is so bad,both lead actors are bad they should feel bad for those who watch it

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If you stop watching the show, there'd be one less person to feel bad about. Win-win situation, I'd say.

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I really curious how people benchmark 'good acting', and to be frank, the constant bashing of Suzy in UF is quite uncalled for....and I'm not even a fan.

I thought Woobin really shined in this episode, it reminded me of why he captured my heart in Heirs. His Joon Young in the phone call scene with mom, and his profession of love for No Eul was heartbreaking. His voice was so tender you could feel Joon Young's heart breaking inside.

I usually won't watch a show just for a particular actor, but I would sit through 20 episodes of UF for Woobin.

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I'd benchmark "good acting" as creating a character who's believable (internal logic), making that character relatable (whether hero or villain, the audience needs to partially empathize), and allowing the audience to suspend their disbelief.

That last one's important. Audiences make a deal with a show that they're going to dedicate attention and cede some of reality, and the show promises to hold their attention and tap into emotion. But if an actor is constantly making the audience think "why the shouting? What are you doing? Why do you feel like you're pretending?" then it breaks the deal, because the audience is now actively thinking about mechanics like acting and direction and casting.

If I turn in a bad work product, I should expect to be criticized for it. If I give someone a task that I know they can't complete well or if give it to them knowing their contribution is going to be passable at best, then that's on me when the end product has visible weaknesses. I shouldn't be surprised when others point out the weakness, no matter how friendly those others may be to me and my project.

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"...Why do you feel like you’re pretending?” For better or worse, I get this feeling about most of the show. I simply don't feel much empathy for any of the characters - it just seems all so contrived.

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Good acting for me is when you make a character relatable, when you make a connection to your audience, and when you do it consistently the moment the director says "action" until he calls "cut".

There are moments when Suzy looks awkward so obviously she is not consistent. But over-all, I personally think that she is not that bad as others are too quick to say. I see Suzy in CFs and shoots and as a singer. Always looking pretty and smiling and fun. When I watch her as No Eul, I don't see Suzy the superstar. I get where Eul is coming from. People are annoyed at her drinking session. I'm not. People get drunk when they are miserable at love. Especially young people. I get Eul because I look at it in the context of the character's struggle. They hate her shouting. I'm fine with that. She's drunk. She's acting stupid. Let her be stupid. That's what makes us human. When she was younger, she never had the chance to act silly. She never had the chance to act stupid over boys. She was forced to stand up and get her sh*t together so she could raise her little brother. I know some won't agree but I can relate to her and she's definitely made a connection to me. She's a totally flawed character and I can embrace that. In fact, that's what I like about this show. The leads aren't totally lovable. They can be so annoying and stupid sometimes. They're like actual normal people. Also, I appreciate what she did in her flashback scenes. She made it a point to walk and talk and act more giddy and youthful so she could differentiate it from her present self. Like that scene when she threw her arms at her friend's shoulder and ran off to rescue a friend/classmate who's being bullied. She acted like a kid there, and I like that she made that kind of effort. Sorry to compare but I would've wanted the same for Woo Bin. Sure, he's still a jerk as a kid but he still acted and moved like an adult Joon Young. Like they just dressed him with a high school uniform. I'd appreciate it more if he made a few mannerisms that would totally make him more youthful.

Back to Suzy, she's not a great actress though. Still lots to improve. Sometimes it seems like she doesn't know what to do next so she just stay still. Sometimes, she doesn't change her expression. There is always a room for improvement. What I appreciate about Suzy as an actress is how she is visibly trying to get better at acting. I know some people would disagree but I can see in some scenes that she's really put in hard work to really get a good one. I’m glad that she’s making an effort to learn. And she’s been vocal also about how she’s learned from her co-actors. When she is humble enough to acknowledge such thing, at least we get the sense that she respects these actors’ work and this line of work-acting. So we at least know that she’s not just in there to get paid. There's a desire & an effort to produce a good work.

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Is Suzy's acting really dah bad?? uh-oh I'm beginning to have second thoughts on watching this drama

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I suggest trying it out before making up your mind. I went into this with 0% expectations for either leads-- the last time I saw Suzy was in Dream High and she was Not Good there lol-- but that drama is one of my favorites. Opposite case with KWB in the Heirs, but I thought he was getting typecasted so I didn't give him much credit for his acting skills.
They've both grown as actors, and are clearly still growing, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. If nothing else, it means they have the capacity/potential to get better. I'm usually very very observant of actors 'acting' in a scene, and I'm generally unbothered by what's going on here. Maybe it's because I went in with no faith, but I'm content enough with the acting to let the writing and cinematography take me away. It's lowkey one of my favorite shows on right now.

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Watch if first. Don't be swayed negative comments because when I read them, I get the sense that a lot of them don't even watch the show. Just jumping into the bandwagon of trashing a famous star because her acting got singled out.

Personally, she's okay. There are awkward scenes but there are moments when she's spot on. I've seen her in DH, Architecture 101, and a bit of GFB. She has definitely improved, but still lots to improve. I'm not really bothered by her acting here because I like Noh Eul's character. In my case, I try to look at the context of why a character is acting such way and thecircumstances presented to the character first, before I think of, "or is it the actor's acting?". I like to judge the character first before I think of the actor.

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I liked watching Woobie on screen, though the plot is cliche, there's something very appealing and heartwarming about his acting in this drama, and he and Suzy have chemistry in spades. The actor playing Ji Tae is killing his role, he's so versatile, he does enigmatic and 'chameleon like' really well.

The pieces of the puzzle are coming together as I expected, so no surprise there. My one complaint, is that the cinematography is so dark, even in the daylight scenes, it looks somehow muted, and that doesn't translate very well on my tv screen. I prefer the brightness of W, where everything looks crisp and clean even though you know it's unreal.

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I just so confused why do they have to bring negativity? It's already ep.7 so some neutral viewers who doesn't like should just drop it on earlier episodes. While reading some comments in some sites, I do feel that it's more on "hate" than "criticism". Do some of the "critics" really watched it?

The UF's genre is different to others and ratings is still doing good (above 5%), so why compare?... Especially I-fans, we can watch other dramas at the same time without hassle.

Angry with mediaplays? Duh, it's a pre-produced but KBS only promoted it a month before the premiere. They don't even have magazine pictorials, TV guestings, V-apps, etc. unlike ongoing dramas nowadays.

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You can't really have it both ways, saying people should drop the show if they don't like it and then doubting the validity of criticisms by casting doubt on whether the critic watched it at all.

They watch the show, they note flaws in the show, they post about the flaws they've seen in the show. It's the exact same process and just as valid as someone who watched the show, saw something that delighted them, and posted about the delight.

Why would you stay silent about something you dislike, particularly if people might conclude that your silence is agreement? Personally, I like dramas cast with strong actors. If UF came about as the result of a marketing/business play that overrode the director's choice, then I want to call out that it didn't work. Because it's not working, at least for me. UF is making me look unfavorably on certain actors and decision-makers. There's a real cost to taking a gamble like this, and it doesn't help to be silent about your unhappiness because it only ensures that the people who made the gamble think it worked and try to cast Suzy as a lead again. Whatever advertising/business advantage Suzy brings with her, it's not worth dragging down an entire production.

And yes, I know I sound harsh about Suzy, but she's the glaring flaw in my enjoyment of this show. I don't want to see her cast as another kdrama lead until she's proven she can convincingly carry smaller parts. I like dramas, and she is not currently a good ingredient in a drama, and it's not fair to the audience (or to Suzy!) to "season" her by throwing her into lead roles that are too complex for her current skills.

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@Miranda hear hear.

I completely understand when you say you need the justification for her being lead of another potential drama,somehow she brings in lots of business/success/profit making credibility with her,donno may be it's the beauty,but it's purely sad that a successful writer like lee kyoung hee is taking actors based on the look factor,after the trajectory she had so far.Yes her past dramas have not been short of cliches,but still they worked cause the actors made it work,a love to kill,thank you,nice guy,watch the dramas for the performances,not the story.Some times the actors can completely change your experience of enjoying the drama, to think that the still under-developed actors are getting works while the hardworking ones are sitting idle,is really unfair.

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UF fan trying to shut down people who think otherwise? When one is sold a certain product and it does not perform to expectation, one cannot comment about it? What happens to freedom of expression? Why can't we compare? Otherwise why bother with ratings?

There's always media plays in the entertainment world. Excessive ones can back fire as seen now. That is from knetizens who are actually exposed to it in Korea. We, I netizens only see a bit of it, only some translated ones.

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I think woobin shoud tell suzy the truth about him dying in three months.they are both attracted to one another.woobin is trying not to be a noble idiot but he is one.jitae should also tell her that he is a chabeol son.im inclined to believe that she would forgive woobin quickly if he tells her about his health.as for jitae,once she finds out that he is rich,she would feel like he has been playing her

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My guess is he doesn't want her to be with him out of pity for a dying man but a genuine love/attraction for each other...then he can tell her but in drama-like fashion she'll probably find out by accident and not tell him she knows!

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Love love love woobin in this episode. My favourite scene this episode got to be the one where he admitted to his mom in the taxi that he loves Eul. And that smile when he thought his mom was calling back just tugged at my heartstrings.

I dont know what the others think about woobin as an actor, but I love that woobin doesnt overact. I really love his low-key emoting and of course the little quirks that he does when he is playing his badboy thing. Of course he is not perfect but for his age he is pretty good actor and has tonnes of potential IMO. Hopefully he gets even better as he age.

Despite all the criticisms for this drama, I would still gladly watch 20eps of UF just for woobin.

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that is my favorite scene too!

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This drama hurts so good with its feels, it has me questioning why Kim Woo Bin hasn't done similar romantic melodramas before now! Other than School 2013 of course! ;)

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While everyone's fighting discussing about the acting etc. I'm sitting here and scratching my head why Noh Eul threw Pororo a WRAPPED sausage...I mean seriously gurl?! :-P

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Lol. Poor dog doesn't even look hungry. Expression be like "Blah, not interested with some sausage that's not even open. Want to pick a fight with me?"?

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LOL yes! I was so confused I had to pause and go back. Like, girl is that a WRAPPED sausage???? How??

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IKR that was so silly hahaha.

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I was wondering if Pororo was a superdog who can remove wrapping from sausages lol.

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Haha that bothered me too. It's like hey I will try to get over my allergy by killing you ?

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Oeps that was supposed to be a reply to the above comment.

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I'm annoyed that the president told the reporter on the phone that Eul is a distraction from the real girlfriend... Logically if she was, you just gave the game away!! Why can't reporters see through that... Ugh!!

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The show got slow
but I still love it

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If anything this show proves that pre-producing a drama has its risks. Many of the things people dislike about this drama could have been partially adjusted if it was still in production now. I mean, they were fighting back and forth for 7 episodes without much progress, until the end of ep 7 when he finally confessed in a vulnerable way. Plus Suzy's character is whiny and loud at times, something the director and writer could have changed. However, with 13 episodes to go it seems that a lot of crap is going to hit the fan soon, so I'm still curious to see what happens next.

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Yes, we are beginning to see the pluses and minuses of pre-production. It has it's good points but there are negatives, one of which you just mentioned.

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I am hoping that the relationship between Joon Young and Ji Tae develops more complexity. Right now it is focused on the fact that they are rivals for No Eul's affections. However, they are also half brothers and Ji Tae knows it. Moreover, both Joon Young and Ji Tae seem to have arrogant, unapproachable personalities on the surface (Joon Young as an actor and Ji Tae as a Chaebol), but sweet, caring, and honorable personalities underneath. I would enjoy seeing Ji Tae come to genuinely like and care for his brother as he gets to know him better. It would be a twist if the second lead recognized that the lead was a good match for the girl. It would also heighten the emotion when Joon Young's illness can no longer be hidden. A "bromance" between the real brothers would be cute and deeply emotional.

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AnyDrama, I also want to see a brother relationship between them. I never really thought of it before Ji Tae called Joon Young his little brother when telling dad the "friend" story. After that, I thought how nice it would be for Joon Young to know his family when he has been so isolated.

Also, I would really appreciate someone telling his sister to stop dreaming about marrying her half brother. Its creepy.

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I agree! It is totally creepy that her celebrity crush is her half brother. I assume that she will meet him in person at some point and I hope that her crush is crushed!

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I only watched Hairs out of KWB dramas, but was bored with the drama so couldn't give him much attention there. but I'm loving him here, as someone mentioned above, his low-key emoting and how he doesn't overact. can't wait to see how he does in the upcoming more emotionally complicated scenes. i had tears in my eyes when saw him lying on the bed weakly and pale. Pls don't die JY :(
Also loving JT in every way
I'd really love to find out if he unconsciously has any brotherly feelings towards JY.
Tho Suzy's acting isn't perfect, NE isn't bothering me at all. If i wanna name one that actually bothered me in a kdrama i'd say jandi from BOF.
and yeah, all the characters are gray, neither black nor white just like in real life. hence relatable.
I'm loving the drama so far and definitely sticking around 'til the end.

ps, agree to the comments above about being disheartened reading negative comments. nobody's forced to watch, and after 7 episodes.

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What I like about this drama is that they reveal some plot that will make a good plot twist already. Like JY's illness. It makes me wonder what they store for us when the drama is at its climax.

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no offense here, but this thing often happens in db. And I feel like if there's a hyped drama which doesn't satisfy the ''experienced viewers'' here, when there's someone says 'we got that. please change the topic to the story in the drama itself rather than commenting negatively on the same thing over and over again' there will be bunch of people replying with 'Just don’t read their posts and scroll forward...etc etc'. It's just, well, you (who can't enjoy the show wholeheartedly) can ignore these 'sensitive' comments too if you want. I know every one has right to voice out their opinion ( i have it too), but could you imagine if you are told the same news over and over again all the time, wouldn't you feel annoyed too?

FYI, i'm not the actors stan, i just can't hold my 2cent any longer, cause I came here to read pleasant discussion about Joon Young & Eul's story (Idc about the dad/mom/crazy fans lol), but I got none.

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You're not wrong, but I think there's a difference in tone. When you read something saying "why are you even commenting anymore?" that sounds like a question looking for a reply. The sequencing's a bit odd too - it balances out as the comments go on, but sometimes the comment thread starts out with a lot of "I don't understand the critics, why watch?" when there are only a couple of posts. Since DB recaps go up a day after the show, it sometimes feels like people have read non-DB criticisms of the episode and gotten an idea of what MIGHT be coming, so rush in to try to head criticism off at the open, preemptively.

I like talking about dramas, but I also like talking about the production of the drama. What I don't like is talking about commenters, but that's where some of the "if you don't like it, don't comment" stuff comes into play. I think people confuse talking about the production elements as being out of bounds and try to police it, but that motivation is more personal-commenter related.

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I was disappointed by last week's episodes, which I felt wasted a lot of time. Within and without the drama, time is something that is in short supply. Within the drama, we have less than 3 months until our lead's inevitable end. They are Not saving him lol. Outside of the drama, we only have 20 episodes to do this, and it was preproduced! Why are we doing a Where's Waldo puzzle instead of progressing the plot?!
All that to say, my disappointment's mellowed I actually welcomed this episode. No Eul is made explicitly aware of Joon Young's love for her. In their previous connections she could shrug it off as him messing with her, or her reading too much into things, but now it's for realsies and she knows it. JY, on his end, finally made a decision about how he's going to act towards NE that he's planning to stick with. You don't know how much I was booing and hissing at the screen when he started micro-mini counting. I called him every kind of coward in the book. But when NE clambered on top of him and he said TEN, I whooped in delight. I wish he would explain himself to her, but hopefully we get there, and soon!
I think I like this drama so much because it's what I was looking for without even realizing it. I wanted a sad, melancholy, beautifully shot drama in the vein of the classics, but with modern sensibilities. I find it hard to watch dramas from before 2009 because they can just be so jarring. The world is terrible right now but I can really let my feelings out when I cry over a sad drama, so I'm fully prepared for UF to completely ruin me lol.
*A note on the acting: I get critiquing a drama, and actually think the comments section is better for it. This drama is no exception. But I think we should critique scenes or moments that didn't work, because it's unfair to act like the drama isn't working as a whole. That's giving far less credit than it deserves. I think passing out blanket statements about how terrible the acting is all the way in episode 7 is harping. For example, someone pointed out how they would have liked Suzy to have more of a reaction when KWB touched her face, and I snapped my fingers like, aha! That's definitely what was missing! But to say 'Suzy's acting is bad' is to ignore that she and KWB do have good chemistry, and that she does fine for the most part. She's clearly not equipped for heavy lifting, and this will become more apparent as the plot progresses and the angst builds (even! more! angst! can't wait!!), but for now it's not all bad. There's even some good. Like the part where she's following KWB around all day trying to apologize. It reminded me of a little kid trying to apologize to her mom after doing something naughty lol. I thought it was cute and well done on her part. She has her strengths. KWB does seem to do better around stronger actors, and sucks the attention when it's just them two in a scene together. To be fair, though, I don't know if it's him or his broad...

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... shoulders. Lol. Got cut off. Gotta mention the shoulders because hot diggety!

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Thank goodness you finished your comment, or my brain will be forced to supply what broad ____ you mean. Woobin's everything just seems massive to me. Big Bad (Hot) Wolf.

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soooo since we're on the topic of melodramas, i actually really am a fan of UF, but does anyone else have any recommendations for melodramas while i wait for these episodes to come out? :D

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Marriage Contract was surprisingly amazing.

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Ditto on MC.

Another one to watch is The Spring Day of My Life, a 2014 show with Kam Woo Sung and Sooyoung as leads. Gawd, that was good!

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See Lee Kyung Hee's earlier dramas, they all got similar story points. I'm sorry I love you is a good one, also Kill Me Heal Me, (not LKH drama), That Winter the Wind Blows, Secret.

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For heartwrenching melo, I enjoyed:

Secret (aka Secret Love) with Ji Sung and Hwang Jung Eum
Crazy for You with Yoon Kye Song
Mask with Soo Ae and Joo Ji Hoon

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"...she’s faced years of ridicule and social exclusion because of her son.." is one of the themes, but it makes no sense at all. In fact it sounds downright stupid.

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Can you explain that thought a bit more? I don't really understand what you mean by that. I thought it made sense because in Korean society single motherhood is generally a thing that is looked down upon and shamed. Especially if the baby was born out of wedlock? Unless you're saying another aspect of that theme is stupid?

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Her "shame" was not from being single, but from him not being a prosecutor.

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Ah, true. I was only thinking about before he became an actor. Yeah her actions now make absolutely no sense lol

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I really don't understand this. I come from a conservative country too but any parent behaving like this to a grownup and successful child will be called crazy.

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I just want to cry and to laugh at the same time... It is so lovely that he likes her, but I am sad that he has a decease... At the beginning of the 7 episode is a song I really want to know but it is not in the OST.. Can someone please tell me the song name??

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Boring drama. Suzy and Within are so overrated...Doctors is 10x better than this drama in terms of emotional punch, characterisation, AND acting!

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*Woobin

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Ep 7's ending made me feel things and I was happy, then I came here. I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it's such a kill-joy with so much negativity. I personally feel that this is a very beautiful and special drama. Despite its flaws, it has many gentle moments that tug the heartstrings and I love the characters. And its ambiance and cinematography. And the music. And so many other nice things to focus on. I like to lie back, have my tea, while let it slowly lead me. I enjoy it a lot.

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Well, for my two cents, I think Kim WooBin is doing a great job! I am really looking forward to seeing his acting as his disease progresses. Lots of potential there. Suzy isn't the greatest actress, but I must say she seems to have improved somewhat from when i watched her in Gu Family Book. She
truly distracted from the story every time she was on screen :) Now, I seem to actually see moments where I can believe she is truly feeling whatever emotion she is trying to portray. Truthfully, I really only started watching because of WooBin after I read the first two DB recaps!

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Hi Beanies

Can someone kindly explain to me ... How JY caused Eul accident ?!
I thought that he was only a witness

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JY stole No Eul's bag (which contained evidence she was going to use to incriminate his dad; he was trying to protect his dad). No Eul then runs across the street to try to catch him and gets hit by a car. If JY hadn't stolen her bag, she wouldn't have run across the street and been hit by the car.

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To me, I welcome all comments. If one wants to say in this thread "Suzy sucks at acting", then go ahead. Freedom of speech. I respect all opinions. I think it makes sense to follow up with reasons but the main point is made. It's clear this show has a lot of flaws and problems and people just plain don't like it for a variety of reasons. If they want to criticize, I think it's fine. I want to criticize too cause I see things even if I still like the show overall. Everyone will read the comments differently and react differently. But to me, I don't necessarily disagree with them but it's just that I still end up liking the show so far, whereas for them, it's an absolute no - they can't like or watch the show or the characters. So it all just depends. Sometimes I think it might just be the way in which people present their critiscms that other people disagree with. It's like, for example, sure there's freedom of speech and a bully can say what they want and make fun of people. But there is a very mean spirited way of saying something and there are nicer ways to say stuff. I think we can all agree there are limits on what we should say. In summary, I welcome all comments as long as they are not a bullying way.

Like I said, I was in the HJM threads and there was definitely a lot of criticism for that drama so I doubt anything said here could phase me. Lol Namely the drama sucks and over hyped by getting a big name and the lead actress took a very severe beating. All in all, despite all the flaws and cliches and nonsensical crap plot, I still found something to like it in and stuck to it faithfully. Trust me, live shoot and being able to change things does absolutely nothing to change people's mind. So even if UF was live shoot instead of preproduced, there little that can be done at this point.

So I feel like UF will also provide me with something that I can relate to and therefore stick with the drama. I really don't know much about KWB'a acting before this having not seen either heirs or school 2013 beyond an episode in heirs. I do feel like he lacks somewhere but overall, it's not distracting to me. I like JY and think he's overall doing a decent job. Could he be doing a much better job? sure but those small moments when he shines, he really shines. I see his flaws and I feel for him. JY may be considered super selfish in his pursuit of Ne after getting sick but I don't feel as if he's that super selfish. He wasn't living a great life beforehand anyways despite having fame and money. On the inside, he was still the same - longing for love and not really receiving it from those he wanted - mom, dad... And NE to an extent. If they do embark on a relationship, it's not going to be take take take from JY to NE. NE will gain a lot too and she needs that emotionally as well. However, I do agree he is going to have to divulge his illness soon as well as the other secrets. No regrets JY - fighting!

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Also want to comment on Suzy - I don't know anything about Kpop so I know little about her and I didn't see DH or the other drama w LSG - is that with him? So basically no idea on her acting skills. I did read that she is a crappy idol actress. And I know she's super pretty and popular. Well - that's plus one for her - she's really popular so she must do something right to be that popular. Anyhow - I personally find her serviceable in her role even if there could be so much more she could do w NE. NE is just kinda gray and immature like that. I think Suzy plays that part ok. I read some criticism of her voice and I don't understand Korean so I respect their opinion on that. I definitely have heard similar issues in Chinese and it's distracting. But without understanding the language, it's harder to pick up on that for me whereas it's super distracting for them.

I like JY and NE and am rooting for them to live life to the fullest and be happy together for even 3 months and have no regrets and grow as a result. I am in it for their journey.

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I think suzy still never figured what her character is ! Sometimes shes gloomy ,sometimes shes hyper,sometimes she shouts and others she cry ...I mean they should have worked on her personality first ..so we can understand why shes acting this way and not in other way in each scene..so thats how I feel that I cant really know whats going on inside her head ?
Woo bin is also being kind of a mystery ..I mean he keeps silent like 2/3 the episode so how ON HELL we know how he thinks !? And why for god sake hes not telling his mother about his shit !? About his sickness ..since he needs ppl around him wont that be easier if he clinch to the ppl he knows rather than chasing a girl who will be heart broken 3 or 6 months later !??? And he was living his life peacefully till hes sick and accidently pumped to her and now want her to be his girlfriend ....there is NO PLOT AT ALL
WHAT THE HELL ...

Well I love both suzy and woo bin ao dont get the wrong idea , I was expressing how I felt ;)

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I really want to like this show and overall I do. My biggest issue is wth Suzy. She was totally miscast in the role. Not her fault and I know they cast her because she is really popular but the character is supposed to be 28 and has had a really tough life but Suzy's acting and just overall image makes it seem like Eul is a teenager.

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