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W–Two Worlds: Episode 5

I feel like there are no rules in this drama, which is terrifying and thrilling all at once. Is this the story of a hero, or a monster? Is this drama about creating your own happy ending, or is it about discovering that real life has no such thing as neat narrative arcs, or meaning, or purpose? Really, depending on which side of the bed you woke up on today, it could feel like either extreme. Maybe happily-ever-after is just what you make of it… or maybe happy endings are a construct that never existed in the first place.

 

 
EPISODE 5 RECAP

Kang Chul’s entire world literally comes to a grinding halt the second he becomes aware that he’s a manhwa character. After stepping through the mysterious webtoon frame connecting the manhwa world to the real one, Chul comes out on the other side and walks down the street in the pouring rain, still in a haze over the earth-shattering events he just witnessed.

Across the street, something catches his attention: It’s an ad for W the webtoon, with a giant image of Kang Chul plastered to the side of a bus, asking if he’ll finally catch his family’s killer. Chul is so shocked that he crosses the street in the middle of traffic, not even registering all the honking cars.

He comes face to face with his own… face… and looks stricken to see the proof so plainly, that he is a fictional character. He reaches out a shaky hand to touch the sign, like he’s still not sure that it’s real.

And because he’s smart, Chul goes straight to the nearest bookstore to track down his own manhwa. What he encounters is more shocking than he anticipated though—an entire display filled with volumes, all featuring him on the cover.

It takes him a moment to work up to it, but he rips open the first volume and sees character introductions for him, and the people closest to him. The story opens the way we opened the drama, in the Olympics shooting match where he won his gold medal. As Chul reads the part about his family’s brutal murder, he wells up with angry tears.

He rips open volume after volume, and we get clever exposition on Chul’s intervening years this way: Prosecutor Han got elected to the National Assembly, and though his public face was charismatic, behind closed doors he continued to hunt Kang Chul ferociously.

Chul sought out top fighter Do-yoon for martial arts lessons, saying that he had the feeling that he’d be gaining more enemies soon and wanted to protect himself. Chul only wanted training from the best, and the boys developed a natural friendship as they trained.

Chul went after the city’s biggest criminals himself, fighting crime lords and their henchmen with Do-yoon by his side. That’s how he regained the public’s favor—by using his crime investigation show W to clean up the streets.

The more Chul’s popularity grew, the more people turned on Assemblyman Han, accusing him of orchestrating a witch-hunt on Kang Chul all those years ago. But still to this day, Assemblyman Han believed that Chul killed his own family and deserved to rot in jail.

By that point in his own story, Kang Chul has caught up with all thirty-three volumes of the manhwa, and he throws the last one down onto the pile with a thud. He sits there numbly on the floor of the bookstore for a long time, until the employees finally ask him to leave because they’re closing.

He asks dispassionately if this manhwa is popular, and the employees say it’s been a bestseller for over five years. He scoffs at that, calling it funny. I have no idea how he has the presence of mind to find humor in the irony. He gets up to leave, and when the clerk offers to bag the books for him, he says, “I don’t need them. It’s a story I already know.”

At the hospital, Yeon-joo stares at the webtoon image of Kang Chul on his plane, saying to himself that he might be shaken if she said she loved him one more time. (I love that she gets to see these private moments after the fact!) She relives their kiss as she thinks of him.

Su-bong calls and says that the technicians checked all the equipment at Dad’s workshop, but everything is in working order and the server is fine too, so they don’t know what caused the sudden freeze-out. Su-bong is so freaked out that he couldn’t stay in the workshop alone, and tells Yeon-joo that he’ll return when her dad shows up.

When she’s called in for a surgery, Yeon-joo scrubs up as her friend Seok-bum comes by, asking randomly if she has a fiancé that she never told him about. He says that someone is here looking for her saying that he’s engaged to her, and Yeon-joo says he must be mistaken since she has no guy in her life to be engaged to.

She’s about to go into surgery when it dawns on her that there IS someone who goes around saying that he’s her fiancé…

She comes out to the lobby where Seok-bum is talking to a man in black, and when she arrives, the man turns around. It’s Kang Chul, of course, and Yeon-joo gasps, her jaw practically hitting the floor. Chul winks at her, ha.

Seok-bum asks if they really know each other, and Chul answers yes before confidently marching up to Yeon-joo and leading her away by the hand. She’s so stunned that she just watches everything he’s doing like she must be imagining this, and when she finally finds her voice, she asks if she’s been sucked back into his world. She stammers that no, this is her hospital with her friend Seok-bum, and Chul says, “I came here, to your world.”

He tells her that his world stopped—everything but him. He doesn’t know why he’s the only one not frozen in time, and wonders if it’s a perk of being the lead character. He says he left it all and came here, and spent all the cash he had in his pocket to read all thirty-three volumes of his manhwa.

He understands now how Yeon-joo knew him so well, and guesses that she was a devoted reader who’s followed him for seven years. “Do you know how much I regret it now? I should’ve listened to your warning then,” he says without bitterness. He thinks back to her warning in prison that he’d be unhappy if she told him the truth, and says he never could have imagined that the truth would be this.

But he adds, “I know now, how much you were thinking of me with your silence then.” He says that’s why he came, to say goodbye one last time. She gives him a quizzical look, and he smiles faintly and thanks her for being so considerate to the end. He says that she’s a really good person, and is qualified to become a really good doctor.

Yeon-joo searches his face, not knowing what to make of any of this, when she’s interrupted by a phone call asking her to come down to surgery. She asks Chul to wait here for her and not go anywhere or do anything, and to just think of her as his guardian.

He laughs and asks if she’s mimicking him, and she points out that here he has no money, no ID, and no house, which is a predicament she understands well. She says she’s not rich like him, but she’s a real doctor here, with money and a home. Aw, he looks genuinely touched by her words.

She pleads with him to just stay right here and wait for her, and he manages a faint smile to reassure her that he will. Why does it look like his eyes are crying though? Satisfied, she turns to go.

But at the last second Chul pulls her back towards him and leans down to kiss her, this time slow and soft and lingering. Humona.

When he finally steps back, Yeon-joo still has her eyes closed like she doesn’t want to wake up from this moment. It’s incredibly endearing.

She does eventually open her eyes again, and then she starts to panic, wondering why he’s suddenly being like this. Chul says that after reading the manhwa, his unhappiness increased about ninety-nine-fold, but there was one good thing that came out of it. He says that he felt like he was always the one at a disadvantage, but then he got to see Yeon-joo’s true intentions too: “So it’s probably best not to act coy.” Embarrassing!

Yeon-joo gets the second call from the nurse and has to go, but urges Chul to wait for her, and to seek out her friend Seok-bum if anything happens while she’s in surgery. Chul says that Seok-bum acted prickly when he said he was her fiancé, and makes sure that he isn’t her boyfriend. Yeon-joo reminds him that she already told him she didn’t have a boyfriend.

I don’t like the way Chul’s face falls when Yeon-joo leaves…

Yeon-joo is on edge all throughout her surgery, and Professor Crazy Dog is doubly annoyed at her tardiness because her name is Oh Yeon-joo, and he’s currently mad at all Oh Yeon-joos of the world because his favorite manhwa is being ruined by one.

Kang Chul doesn’t stay and wait for her, of course, and seeks out Dad’s workshop instead. When no one answers the doorbell, he breaks in. Despite knowing that he’s about to enter his creator’s workshop, it’s overwhelming when he sees his face pinned up on every wall. There are conceptual drawings of every detail of his life, from his car, to this penthouse suite, to his best friends.

What haunts him the most is a sketchpad on Dad’s desk, with early conceptual sketches of Kang Chul’s face, as he worked out the facial features—more proof that he was made, not born. Chul catches his own reflection in the window and snarls at what he sees, and it sends him into a rage. He throws the sketchpad and starts tearing apart Dad’s office in a fury, until he sees something that makes him still.

He walks over to the wall where Dad has hung a series of pictures of him with his daughter, as a child, a young girl, a teen, and then a doctor—where she is clearly recognizable as Yeon-joo.

He’s stunned and thinks back to how Yeon-joo saved him over and over, how she was invincible in his world, and that she said she was a fan who wanted him to get a happy ending. He looks at that photo like it’s a cruel joke, and storms out.

Meanwhile, Yeon-joo’s surgery finally ends, and she fails to sneak out before Crazy Dog chews her out for being insubordinate lately, which he traces to the moment he told her he was her dad’s fan. As usual, Crazy Dog ends up ranting about W instead, angry at her father for suddenly turning his thriller manhwa into a romance. Hilariously, Yeon-joo argues back that a hero can sometimes fall in love because he can’t be working all the time: “He’s a person too!”

Crazy Dog is appalled that she’s arguing with him about this, and huffs that it’s not love—it’s just a passing fancy. It’s Yeon-joo’s turn to get huffy, and she asks why it couldn’t be love between Chul and Yeon-joo. Crazy Dog keeps asking for proof, and she just touches her lips and says she can’t tell them.

The staff assumes she knows some spoilers, and Crazy Dog goes extra crazy at the thought that Kang Chul might end up with Yeon-joo when he’s supposed to marry So-hee, who’s stuck by his side for ten years. I seriously love that they’re having a shouting fanwar about this—it feels like my life.

Yeon-joo gets riled up as she argues that there’s been no indication that Kang Chul sees So-hee as anything more than a friend, while Crazy Dog calls it ludicrous to assume that the story would veer from the formula. Yeon-joo: “How can you say there’s a formula for people’s feelings?! Why are you interpreting Kang Chul however you want when you don’t even know? Kang Chul likes ME!” Pwahahahaha.

Everyone in the room turns to look at her like she’s crazy, and Yeon-joo hangs her head when she catches her slip. Crazy Dog says that Yeon-joo seems about the maturity level of his tween daughter who’s currently going through her fangirl stage, and offers to introduce them so they can be friends.

Yeon-joo is so impatient to get out of there that she asks to get yelled at even more later, and just runs out with Crazy Dog screaming after her. Kang Chul is nowhere to be found, of course, and she wonders what he meant by “final goodbye.” She tries calling Dad, but his phone is still turned off.

Dad finally turns up at his workshop, and trudges inside to pour himself a drink. He checks his phone to find panicked texts from Su-bong saying that Yeon-joo has gotten sucked into the manhwa world again, and then when he reads Yeon-joo’s text looking for him, he calls her back.

Yeon-joo answers in a hurry, but before Dad can say anything to her, Kang Chul walks out from his office. Aaaah! Dad drops his glass of scotch, understandably terrified. Yeon-joo can hear Kang Chul’s voice on the other end, and realizes that he’s found her father.

Chul says that they’ve met a few times before, and that they have a lot to talk about. At last Dad stammers, “How…?” Chul says that’s really a question for him: “They say you made me.”

Chul pulls out a chair for Dad and wants to talk, not really giving him much of a choice in the matter. Dad shuffles over warily, eyeing the box-cutter on the desk as he nears. He looks pretty shifty, but he manages to grab the box-cutter and swing at Chul.

Chul dodges quickly and disarms Dad, slamming his head down onto the desk. Yeon-joo gasps as she hears their struggle on the phone, but can’t do anything to stop them. Dad continues to attack, so finally Chul bonks Dad on the head with the butt of his pistol, sending him to the ground.

He picks Dad up and throws him into the chair before lowering his gun right in Dad’s face. Chul: “Be grateful to your daughter. I’m treating you gently for her sake. While you were anxious to kill me, your daughter worked hard to save me.”

With her cell phone still on the call with Dad, Yeon-joo grabs her desk phone and calls Su-bong to hurry up and get to the workshop, because Kang Chul is here and confronting Dad right this minute. She has to say it twice for Su-bong to comprehend, and he stands up in the middle of a PC-bang shouting, “KANG CHUL IS HERE?!”

Yeon-joo urges him to get there fast, and to tell Chul that she’s on her way and has something to tell him. She hangs up and runs out of the hospital, and Su-bong sits there having a mini-freakout before grabbing his snacks (do you have time for that?) and rushing out.

Thankfully Chul really does want to talk, and withdraws his gun. He looks down at his hand that Dad scratched up in their scuffle, and muses with interest, “I bleed.” He notes that Dad isn’t invincible in this world: “Just an average person, who hurts and bleeds. That’s normal. That’s fair. It was always me dying and bleeding—unfairly.”

We flash back to the night that Dad drew him getting stabbed on the rooftop. After finishing the bloody drawing, Dad had reached for his scotch with a satisfied look, when suddenly a hand came reaching out of his monitor and grabbed him by the collar. It wasn’t Yeon-joo that he pulled in there?!

Chul remembers now that it was Dad that he pulled in the first time, and we see Dad standing on the roof looking horrified, while Kang Chul pleaded with him to call emergency. Not only did he not make the phone call, but he turned around to go pick up the killer’s knife.

Kneeling over Chul’s body, Dad had said in a shaky voice, “Let’s end this,” and stabbed him right in the gut. Ack!

Even after getting stabbed, Chul forced the bloody knife out of his gut and turned it on Dad, shoving it into his chest. Dad fell back in terror, but they were both shocked to see that he was unharmed—it was then that Chul saw he was invincible.

In the present, Chul says that Dad was the one to deliver the deadly blow, and no one seemed to know that there were two separate killers on the roof that night. He’d had a hunch that the second killer was the one who kept trying to kill him without reason, not that he knew then what Dad was to him.

Chul supposes that Dad got everything he wanted out of him like fame and fortune, and when he had no use for the character anymore, he thought to kill him off heartlessly. Chul finds it amusing how famous Dad is, because he found out a lot with a quick internet search, like how he was always an alcoholic and an unsuccessful husband and father who spent many years as a talentless no-name artist.

In flashback, we see Little Yeon-joo sitting in the corner drawing while her parents argued over Dad’s drinking for the millionth time. OMO—she’s drawing a boy holding a gun, and though it doesn’t look like Kang Chul (because it’s a kid’s cartoon drawing), it’s got to be him.

Chul doesn’t know that detail though, and says that Dad created a character who was the exact opposite of himself in every way—strong-willed, young, famous, successful—a strong man. He laughs to recount an article that said he was named Kang Chul (meaning “steel”) for that reason, and he surmises that Dad was living vicariously through him.

Chul continues narrating that it didn’t last long though, because Mom and Yeon-joo eventually left him, and Dad was such a weak person that he fell apart instantly. And because Dad didn’t have the strength to kill himself, he had Kang Chul commit suicide on that bridge in his place: “Because the only thing you can control in this world is me.” Dayum.

Chul says he’s had nightmares every night since that he was drowning in the Han River, and it’s only now that he knows—he really did die that day, until Dad changed his mind and rewrote the story.

Dad finally speaks up to argue that point, because he didn’t change his mind at all. He says that he killed Chul on that bridge, but Chul was the one who held on, like he was begging to live. And because Dad had affection for the character, he softened and chose to let him live. He says now that that was his critical error, because after that, Kang Chul became a monster.

Yeon-joo is heartbroken as she hears Dad scream that he gave Kang Chul everything—all the characteristics he wished he could have. Dad says that Chul is trying to understand the world with the brain that HE gave him: “Does that make sense? You’re nothing but a drawing!”

Dad says he thought he was going mad at first, and went to a therapist, and told his friends. But no one believed him. He even thought of running away because he was so scared, but then he couldn’t because of Yeon-joo.

He admits that he didn’t do anything for his daughter while she was growing up, but he was doing well and the manhwa was successful and making money, so he told himself to hang on a little longer. Dad decided to continue the manhwa until he made enough so that Yeon-joo could live comfortably for the rest of her life, and on the phone Yeon-joo sighs to hear this from her dad.

Dad argues that Chul isn’t the only one having nightmares, because he dreamt nightmares every night too, but held on with the belief that he could end it soon. But every attempt to kill Kang Chul has been thwarted, and then Chul even went so far as to pull Yeon-joo into his world.

That’s why Dad stabbed him, in the hopes that this curse would end. He rants, “You are an illusion. You’re not anything! You’re just a character I created! So why are you showing up in front of me and pretending to be a person? Why are you pulling my daughter into this and continuing the story however you please? You’re just a character, do you hear me?! A predetermined setting that I created!”

Dad actually eggs Kang Chul on to try and shoot him, insisting that he won’t be able to because Dad created him to be a just, righteous character who can’t murder anyone. Dad looks almost triumphant as he declares Chul a law-abiding hero with a conscience whom everyone loves, because he made it so.

Ohmygah, DAD! STOP IT. You can actually see the defiance spark in Kang Chul’s eyes, as Dad full-on gloats that even Chul being here now isn’t of his own free will—it’s because Dad created him to be strong-willed and relentless. Dad says his mistake was in making Chul so strong-willed that he kept fighting his own death, but he says even that is his own doing as Chul’s creator.

Dad: “You have never once stepped outside of my settings for you!” Dad grabs Chul’s gun and sticks it in his own chest, urging him to go ahead and shoot. Yeon-joo pleads with Dad to stop, even though he can’t hear her.

Chul struggles with the pistol in his hand, but in the end Dad was right about him—he can’t shoot, and the realization brings tears to his eyes. Aw buddy. I’ve never been sadder for someone to learn he’s not a cold-blooded killer.

He wipes away his tears quietly and then switches to Plan B: He holds the gun up to Dad and orders him to draw the ending of the manhwa that he originally intended, before making him commit suicide on the bridge. Chul guesses that his desire to catch his family’s killer was so strong that it brought him all the way here, and orders Dad to draw the killer’s face so that he can go back to his world and finish the story in a way that makes sense. Chul says his friends are still stuck back there, neither dead nor alive, and he can’t just leave them there.

Dad says there’s nothing he can do now, because a storyline has to make sense to Kang Chul for it to play out in the manhwa. Chul says the ending he wants is simple: catch the killer, bring him to justice, and live a normal life. He holds Dad up at gunpoint and orders him to draw.

Dad picks up his pen… but then he puts it down and admits that he doesn’t know, because there is no culprit—it was just a story point that he added in order to make the hero strong. Just a tragedy in a hero’s backstory, like a go-to trope.

Chul’s eyes fill with tears and he asks how that’s possible. But Dad says the crime has to be unsolved to make him a hero; solving the case would mean the end of the story. Dad argues that if Kang Chul were happy, no one would buy his story, and he doesn’t have clues because there never was a culprit in the first place.

Chul looks broken at his words, and asks angrily how there could be no culprit when Dad killed his entire family and framed him for the crime. It dawns on him that he was trying to kill him because the story can’t have a happy ending. Chul supposes that if none of this had happened, Dad would’ve continued drawing and being successful to the end of his days.

Kang Chul’s voice breaks as he cries, “And I never would’ve known the reason, running after a killer who could never be caught, suffering from insomnia every night, getting hurt and broken. Endlessly suffering and repeating it over and over. Do you even know what I’ve been through? Things that you would never be able to endure. You made me go through it all, thinking yourself a god with that tiny finger, without any responsibility, while I remember every single moment of pain.”

Dad just answers quietly, “That’s fiction. That’s a writer’s job.” But Chul argues that he’s not just a writer, because Dad saw him living and breathing and still tried to kill him. He says that’s Dad’s true nature—violent and cruel, just hidden because he holds a pen instead of a knife.

Chul raises his gun again: “Your true nature is a son of a bitch, and it’s as if you have already committed murder.” Dad shuts his eyes, waiting for the shot. Yeon-joo gasps and begs him not to shoot while trying to hurry, and Su-bong arrives outside the gate, panicked.

With the gun cocked, Chul trembles and clenches his jaw, determined to fight his nature and shoot. Tears trickle down his face and he can’t bear to do it. Su-bong cries out for Dad, and Chul lowers his arm and tells Dad to think of a way to fix this before he returns. Yeon-joo breathes a sigh of relief.

As he turns to go, Chul says that Dad was lucky today, but then Dad has to go and stick his foot in his mouth again. He says that Chul can’t shoot him, because that’s how his predetermined settings are. Are you TRYING to push him over the edge??

It works, because Chul snaps, and in one swift motion, he pulls his gun out as he whirls around again. Time slows, and Dad looks up with fear in his eyes as Kang Chul aims his gun with a snarl.

He shoots, and Dad looks down at his bleeding chest in shock. He falls to the floor… Ack, is he dead??

 
COMMENTS

Wait, did he actually kill his creator? He can’t be dead-dead, right? Where do we go from here? Does Kang Chul just write his own story now? I fully expected Yeon-joo and Su-bong to arrive just in time to save the day, like they would’ve in any other drama. But they didn’t, because this drama is crazy. I honestly did think that Dad was asking for it when he kept egging Chul on to shoot him, almost taunting him about not having the free will to act outside of the set characteristics Dad had “programmed” him with. I mean, the guy defied death by developing free will so strong that you can’t even control your own creation, and you’re pushing his buttons and daring him to rebel against you? By the end of the episode, I’m fully convinced that Chul shoots Dad out of rebellion more than revenge—it’s an assertion of his free will to do the one thing that his creator insists he can never do by design. I’m simultaneously impressed that we went that far, sympathetic to Chul, and horrified that he shot Dad point-blank like that.

Thematically, it’s the ultimate reversal to have the monster that Dad created shoot him—a self-fulfilling prophecy, really, because Dad was so convinced that his creation would devour him that he treats Kang Chul with disgust and superiority, rather than pity or love. It’s Dr. Frankenstein through and through, and I’m scared for how dark Kang Chul will go now that he’s faced with the truth that his life and all its attendant tragedies are utterly meaningless. It’s probably not that far off from a normal existential crisis, where people wonder what the point of anything is in life, except it seems so much worse to have a man tell you that he made you suffer your whole life just because it sells books, and that you were destined to never solve the one mystery that was your driving force throughout young adulthood because then he’d run out of ideas for how to continue your story. It feels so… empty.

Frankly, I’m amazed that Kang Chul could hold it together in this episode at all, given the kind of mind-boggling things he learns about his own existence. Despite it being a slower episode on the action front, I was riveted by his first day in the real world, and the slow unraveling of horrifying truths. I wasn’t expecting him to confront his creator right away like this, and I certainly didn’t expect to learn that it was Dad that he pulled into his world the first time. Stabbing a dying man with a knife is very different from drawing a character into deadly situations, and I don’t disagree with Chul when he calls Dad a killer. I’m sympathetic to Dad’s fear that he created a monster, but now he’s no different from a monster himself—he’s turned into one in his obsession to “right” his wrong, and seems willfully blind towards Kang Chul’s feelings. It’s probably the way he justifies his actions—insisting that Chul isn’t real, because if he were, Dad would have to admit to being a killer.

I thought it was so clever of Chul to pick up on his character traits as being the very opposite of his creator’s, and to understand that Dad lived vicariously through Chul at a time when his own life was falling apart. It makes perfect sense that Dad becomes obsessed with controlling this one thing (though I guess you could argue that in a normal webtoon, you often aren’t worried about your characters going rogue on you), and it was heartbreaking when Chul cried that he had to endure all the things that Dad as a real person could never endure himself—to him those are real scars and memories, and it’s ironic that Dad put him through so much knowing that he was strong enough to handle it, when he himself broke down and gave up so easily in his own life.

And then of course there’s the big twist—that Kang Chul’s true creator might be Yeon-joo, not Dad—bringing a whole new dynamic into play. It hasn’t been confirmed, but if it’s true (both Dad and Yeon-joo being able to travel to Chul’s world and change the story seems to support this), this might explain the difference between Kang Chul and the other characters in his world. Everyone else was created by Dad, but maybe Chul belongs to Yeon-joo. Maybe it matters that she created him out of love because she wanted a friend or a hero, or maybe it matters that she wants sincerely for him to get a happy ending. So despite Dad’s wishes, maybe Chul is on a path to happiness because Yeon-joo wants it that way, and what she says goes? In any case it opens up a whole host of interesting ideas, especially for the romance. If there still IS a romance left to salvage, yunno, after he followed up swoony kisses by shooting her father in cold-blooded murder. The sentences this drama makes me type, I swear.

 
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Darn, the ep is out before I've finished watching. I'm gonna miss half the discussion.

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Aigoo, why is my stupid comment the first comment!?

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You can delete it ?

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nope, you can write after finished and I'll be there to replied... have fun watching . . .

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There is so much to discuss even if you have watched just the first 1 mins

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This is my problem exactly. It always comes out in PST time and I'm in the wrong time zone!

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Ahhhhh! This show leaves no room for improvement, while you're watching it, or feels like barely 20mins have passed and then the episodes over. I feel like the viewers are feeling just like Yeon Joo's doctor sunbae right now, 'These days i'm so stressed because of W'.

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Stressed and maybe slowly going insane but it's a good kind of insane! Right?

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Going insane "but in a good way"? The catch phrase at DB?
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More like the best kind of insane!!

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‘These days i’m so stressed because of W’.

+1000000 for me!!!

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Me too! I've been waking up super early to catch the subbed episodes. I've never done this for other dramas. It's insane and I'm so stressed!

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me too! first drama that stressed me out!

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Tell me about it, I'm on the other side of the world and although I manage to watch the episode before going to bed by the time I get up the recap (which is posted in the middle of the night where I am) has over 250 comments already. And after catching up on other DB articles and reading this recap there's 100 more...where's Do Min-joon to freeze the time when I need him?!

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Same boat! Except I don't know when the recap gets posted in my time zone. But I woke up pretty darn early and there were already 400+ comments. (Ermagersh, we should have Do Min-Joon and Kang Chul meet. Just for the heck of it.)

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500 comments by the time I saw the recap.

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Love the idea. I would suggest Kim Boong Do to be added to the mix. I imagine the meeting between them as Do Min Joon sitting and staring at the two of them with arms crossed and a stern look, Kim Boong Do analyzing (or judging everyone), and Kang Chul smiling at everyone like the happy kid he is (well happy kid he WAS...as happy as you can be with your parents murdered in cold blood at least).

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Ohmygawd can you imagine DMJ and KBD together at one table? These two would have the nerdiest talk of all mankind, ranging from Joseon scholars to astrophysics.
Then they'll dissect the rules of W and find out who the killer is all within 10 minutes.

And later both would be totally side-eyeing each other when they find out the other one is dating a ditzy actress, bwahaha. ? (and Yoo In-na is also in MLFAS, playing an actress again, woah, so much meta)

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Not only that--you'd have to get Cheon Song-yi and Choi Hee-jin to sit down too and compare boyfriends. Hah! YJ isn't his girlfriend technically yet--but they can all compare kisses at least.
"Mine isn't even surprised at all when I kiss him!"
"Well mine gets downright ill."

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WOW! A conversation between Kim Bong Do e Do Min Joon would be simply MIND-BLOWING!

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Let tell you... Smart-asses and hyper-educated nerds like KBD e DMJ are smoking hot. Men with brains that can kick into high gear like theirs are terribly sexy!

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WHY, whyyyyyyyyy does he always have to aim for the heart dead centre ?! How is our OTP suppose to have their happy ending now. As if they didn't already have everything else going against them... *cries in a corner*

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He's not an Olympian champion shooter for nothing. ? At least it wasn't a head shot or else YJ's dad will have less chances in winning, I mean living. ?

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Lol, winning/living. Nice one!

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But I've wondered how they'd have a beautiful end at all. They're from different worlds. Will he leave his life, friends, all he's known for her? Will she do that?

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As much as I would love to see that happen, I do not think they will have a happily ever after together. My bet is that they will separate in a beautiful way (maybe Yeon Yoo drawing a happy ending for him?) and we will cry a river... I'm already dreading it and we are only in episode 5 :'(
Fingers crossed that they will surprise us with this too! :D

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Along with Yeon Joo, perhaps the rest of us viewers can cry while knowing that at least Kang Chul will no longer be insidiously tortured in the name of fiction. That he will finally have a resolve and regain a home and a peace of mind to no longer have to live with a gun under his pillow.

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I really hope drawing a happy ending isn't the route we take. I'll be heartbroken for her for weeks.

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OR maybe he aimed just right next to the heart? I have no idea but holding my breath because SOMEHOW this is only ep 5 and I think the romance is still developing and I don't think falling for your dad's murderer will be the trope used here... But God knows what to predict with this drama really.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Kang Chul intentionally shot him without hitting any of the organs. I don't believe that the writer just suddenly turned Kang Chul into a bad character who's capable of murder. This would interesting though.

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@thelady I doubt it. The wound and blood seemed to be from the heart and as pointed out a Olympian shooter wouldn't miss.

Am I the only one who wants to watch this sport in the Rio Olympics now? Is this a real Olympian sport? Sorry for my ignorance.

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Am I the only one who wants to watch this sport in the Rio Olympics now? Is this a real Olympian sport?

Which one? Shooting bad writers?

Where do I sign up?

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@mary I don't think I've ever loved your comments more than this one. Even all the SJR witticisms. I real life LOL'd, like doubled over laughing. The child I take care of was staring at me. I think they may be questioning their parents decision to put them in my care.

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Btw for anyone who is curious, rifle shooting is an Olympian sport *honestly just thought it was a leisure activity. Maybe I should get out more*. It's going down in Rio on the 6th, Saturday. Hmmmm...

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Is he still following his character set-up of being an upright person or not? Did he intentionally fatally wound Dad or not? Interesting things to find out. As a created character, I do think it'll be hard for him to act different from his set-up. Like what Dad said, even KC's desire to live was because of the strong-will that he gave him.

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I wouldn't be surprised if this was the show where the Dad murderer trope was followed through.

Arguably, it was vaguely done in Pinocchio.

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He's an olympic shooter. He aims perfectly.

"It's the setup. You can't escape it."
- Dad's final words, 2016

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I usually don't victim blame but Dad asked for it

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I couldn't believe it.I was like 'whyyy????'..... OTP R.I.P

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tbh i got bored at the episode cus the dad and him kept talking

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Aww, sad. Because that conversation between creator and creation was mind-bendingly awesome. I had chills down my spine. My poor lower lip is still bleeding from biting it so much watching this episode!

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"Boring"? O.o That scene was AMAZING! *_*

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Maybe for the impact? I mean its look like someone shoot u in the heart, but intentionally miss the vital area. U can't help but think that he can end u instantly but he won't.

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Oh my GOD

mind blowing!!!!

IT's only 5th episode and we have gone this farr!!!

This is the only thing that I was thinking when watched Kang Chul met his creator.

omo omoomooooo

How comee how comee

What's next after this??? *still trying to process all scenes and re-watch the swooooonnnnnn *

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Right! Most of us would have expected this to be the climax not a quarter of the way through the show.

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The End. ?

That's it for W - Two Worlds.

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I haven't even watched it yet! I just couldn't stay away from the recap! Now I'm overwhelmed with so many feelings. HOW WILL THEY END UP TOGETHER NOW HOWWWW WHEN I CAN IMAGINE YJ DRAWING A HAPPY ENDING FOR KC FOR HIS SAKE. MAYBE CREATE A FICTIONAL YJ SO HE CAN LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER IN THE MANHWA. IT'S SO SAD FOR ME

*cries*

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If they don't end up together, then it's time to turn to fanfiction. I don't usually like fanfiction, but desperate times call for desperate measures. I'll write it myself if I have to

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Make sure to post the link in OT. If they don't end up together *in ONE dimension* I'll be looking for all the fanfics I can get my hands on (and crying as I read)

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This freaking drama brings the concept of OOC ('out of character', a term often used in fanfiction writing) to a fucking WHOLE NEW LEVEL!!!!!!!!

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Is it possible that the reason that Dad couldn't just killed off Chul is because YJ might be the one who created him in the first place? Like Girlfriday said the other characters might belong to Dad, but Chul belongs to YJ. Does that mean that YJ is the only who could killed him off??? Oh no, I sense more angst and hearts breaking in the coming episodes.

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I also think that YJ is the real creator of KC.
I think the show has given us a clue when KC kept saying that she is the key to his life . Not only she saved him, but she probably created him.

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Yep. That was also my guess since the show started. In this ep, YJ said to dad's assistant to to KC that she has something to tell him. Maybe that something is about her being the original creator.

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I don't think she knows herself that she is his creator.. Not yet, atleast..

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Definitely makes sense that YJ was the one who came up with Kang Chul. Maybe that's why when she realised that dad was going to kill Kang Chul Her will to save her character was so strong that she was pulled into the webtoon.

I don't think she's aware of the fact that she's the creator of Kang Chul which is what makes him stand out from everybody else in the webtoon.

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I really hope that it's a romantic twist and not a depressing one. After I watched this episode, I was like, "well...f***". Don't get me wrong, I loved it, but it was super draining. I want the romance to ramp up in the next couple episodes, but that's just my bias.

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I swear, it's like Shakespeare in that respect. I fully expected Chul to shout out, "I am fortune's fool!"
It wouldn't have been out of place.

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If Yeon Joo really did create Kang Chul, I'm scared. If this is the case...I think this drama might have a sad or bittersweet ending. I don't know if they could have a relationship Kang Chul knowing he was created by sad young Yeon Joo to help her through those times.

I hope she didn't create him, but the father seeing her art was inspired to create Kang Chul after he art (that is if he saw the art).

I also really hope that Kang Chul not dying was not a result of his wil...but that Yeon Joo somehow secretly changed that one scene while her father was asleep, and Kang Chul's strong will from that point on came from Yeon Joo. I mean, she does want him to have his happy ending. I don't know how she could have thought. Ahhhh this show.

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it crossed my mind that YJ was the one who changed the scene in the bridge... why... because while she was sleeptalking that time at KC's bed, she mentioned that she was very sand and really thought he would die and i think it was at that time that she did some changes in those frames. So instead of KC jumping off the bridge, she made changes so that he was hanging by the bridge.

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I'm thinking that she didn't change the bridge scene in person but her desire for him to have a happy ending from the first volume (the bridge incident was volume 4 right? *omo, this is not a real manhwa, Purple!*) and her power as his creator, gave him the will to change it when left alone. If Dad had sent it immediately, it would have been the end. But waiting those 5-10 hours while Dad slept gave YJ's desire time to affect the story.

I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't know about the suicide attempt until reading the webtoon and she meant reading the bridge incident was sad. She didn't know if he would die or not until she scrolled down *not knowing that she was the one who subconsciously changed it*

I didn't even know I had all these thoughts. Thanks for the thread. My love for this show keeps increasing.

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No way, I think it's going to actually be the complete opposite. That little reveal, with YJ drawing Kang Chul, that was probably the only bright side to all of this. And I think that's how Kang Chul would see it too, if that's where the story is going to take us. He would much rather he was created unconsciously through childhood YJ out of love and her need for a friend, and that in essence the reason he's self aware and the character that he is, is because that's what YJ needed in him. And he would much rather he have been created out of love, than for for OSM greed for success and desperate need for fame. Maybe that will be the turning point in the romance factor, the fact he was made for her, and not out of her dads downward spiral into alcoholism.

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Your theory sounds great! I sure hope so! I've been scorned by one too many dramas, haha.

If this happens as you wrote it...I can just imagine the "confession" moment when Kang Chul tells Yeon Joo those things (how he rather prefer he have been created for her and out of love). *swooon*

I really, really hope this happens! I'm still scared though.. Eep!

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Awww that will be a good thing and rather sweet if KC turned out to really be YJ's creation (I'm like 80% sure now after seeing her drawing).

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Your idea and especially the last line is really sweet. It takes the idea of "soulmate" to a whole other level.

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I hate her dad, for his mean expressions, his demeanor, his hatred of KC, his cold blooded attempt to stab a bleeding dying man, and his unrelenting provocation for KC to shoot him..... I say he Wants to get killed, cos he is alcoholic, weak depressed, and doesn't know what to do with KC.

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@Ides - Yes I so hope its like that!

But that is gonna be 100 times more heartbreaking when the different dimensions will push them apart!

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If it is true that Yeon Joo is the original creator, the fact that she was a child when she did makes the difference as to why Kang Chul is special. Children don't make a firm delineation between the imaginary world and the real world as adults do. The child Yeon Joo may have felt he was real because she wanted and needed to believe in a hero.

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I agree and I hope this is how it unfolds. Because then finally, when KC calls YJ the "key to his life", there is a deeper meaning and not just a cheesy line... And I know that line has a deeper meaning because it is everywhere.

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@Ides I feel the same way about the direction YJ's creator role would go. Slightly happy, at least.

@Moondust
KC: I just wish (voice cracks) I just wish that I was created out of love. I wish that my creator cared for me as much as you do. I wish I could bring happiness to my creator's life.
OYJ: Well I learned something---
KC (in kdrama and fiction fashion interrupts her): I wish you had been my creator. I can't think of anyone who I treasure more. I love you. But instea I'm simply a foil.
OYJ: You what?
KC (wide eyed): Ignore that. I was trying to shake you. You're the main character.
OYJ: No I'm not. *oh the meta* You meant that.
KC: Of course I meant that. You're the best thing to happy to me in all this. I haven't been happy since I won at the Olympics all those years ago. But when I'm with you, it's like I'm 17 and unblemished again.
OYJ (pulls out old drawing that created/inspired dad to create him): I love you too. You were always of the best part of my life.
swoon!
(Ugh, I'm such romance trash)

@Skyofblue that is a new level of soulmate. Can one of my characters come to life too? *this will be the new soulmate trend in fanfic*

@KDaddict?JCW +1000000

@Divyrus *shhhh* maybe if we stop mentioning the 2 dimensions they'll forget *yeah right, this writer won't forget anything*

@inxomnia so true. I never felt it was cheesy *I know it is, I just have a high cheese level kekeke* but it was becoming overused. It's everywhere!
What if it was the last line of the drama?! ???

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I can actually see this happening - Young YJ sketching her imaginary hero amidst all the turmoil at home, and maaaaybe her Dad chancing upon the sketch and getting an inspiration for Kang Chul as a character.

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It would all make sense, if Yeon Joo had created Kang Chul, and it would be a good thing, too.
In all really great relationships, you are re-made, into a better person, by the acting of loving, wanting to be loved, and wanting to be a better person for the person you love.
Kang Chul has been re-made, and while right now everyone thinks it is because of his strong self-will, that isn't the real reason. Will keeps you going, but it is not transformative. Love is.

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That's true. How can you call yourself a writer when you don't even know your own story well? The fact that he was too lazy to even give the killer a name or identity makes Chul's story utterly meaningless.

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To be really blunt, what he did is common as heck. I will use Lost as an example. They had the long running smoke monster element... they didn't have a plan at the start. They just had something unseen in the trees. Then they showed a glimpse of it but it was again just a tease not because they had something in mind. It wasn't until seasons later they finally decided what was going on... everything else on Lost was a complete asspull week to week. I could tell, and bailed early. But if you're good in that lazy/trashy way, you can pull off a long running series with the appearance of a structured plot and actually just make it all up as you go. However, it's possible that your weakness will show and your ending will be a complete mess. See: Battlestar Galactica.

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I TOTALLY agree on Lost and the remake of Battlestar Galactica... :-(

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I understand Dad never writing or even deciding a villian. As a writer, clues may slip through and he wanted Chul to have no clues. There's no villian because there's not supposed to be. It was a springboard not a puzzle. If Dad had mentally created a villian, it would go against his plan for Kang Chul.

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That is definitely possible! Because when YJ called the assistant she was real particular in telling him to intervene with Kang Chul and her father, and to tell Kang Chul she, Yeon Joo, had something to tell him! So not only is Oh Yeon Joo the original creator of Kang Chul, but maybe she is even already aware of this fact from the get go and she wants to let him know that the one at fault or from her perspective the one to start it all wasn't OSM but her.

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Also had the thought that she's had a hand in this from the start. Seeing her drawings seems to further suggest it. Whether she created it or she was just making fan-fiction is yet to be determined. I couldn't tell if he had already started the series during that flashback or not.

--I'm still waiting for them to head back to his world and discover a comic about her world. Standard trippy ending! He just never knew about it because he wasn't a comic fan.

--Or the next issue of the webtoon has him coming into her world ...and then turn him into an idol by having him to fan signings and starring in the new movie W! Fans be like, "wow, it really is like he came to life!" And he gets to be filthy rich again.

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I don't think Dad had started the series yet. She was a child and the comics been running 7 years, famous 5 years.

Omo, that would be so trippy. All of her identification is valid in the comic in the comic in Yeolworld. (That was complicated to write.) What if she wasn't the main character, though? That would be hilarious. I love your reason "He just never knew about it because he wasn't a comic fan" kekeke

That is an amazing idea. He might have plastic surgery rumors but I think he can get over that small detail. Can this happen please?

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I really liked the this is the old AI conundrum in a new costume. There's a huge body of work out there about the tech side of creating systems that are intelligent enough to do what you want, and to increasingly do those things in a manner that humans find natural, in some events making logical next-step decisions that reflect the creator's desire. But then of course what do you do when that creation goes rogue - not quite the Three Rules of Robotics, but close.

That Kang Chul was clearly making autonomous decisions is a huge marker in the right-to-life category, but Dad did have plausible deniability... Right up until dad STABBED HIM in-world. At which point hell no.

I love the show is being so specific and unflinching about exactly when that line was crossed. Agh. This show is INTERESTING.

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I'm not surprised he actually stabbed him. The man love his alcohol and is super scared. AND he wants to kill Chul because to him Chul is a CHARACTER and not a PERSON. Of course it may not seem like a justification but I completely understand him. Just because he saw him with flesh doesn't mean he forgets that Chul is not human.

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It's not that I'm surprised that dad stabbed KC. But there was an indication that they have met even before that encounter at the roof. He knows that KC has a life of his own. If he treats KC as a character, I would understand dad trying different ways to kill him through his drawings but it's a completely different story if he does the act itself. I think that's the writer of this show is trying to establish too.

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He knows that he has a life but to him it is a fake life because he is supposed to be a webtoon character and not a person. OSM wanted to kill Chul through his drawings but he got pulled into the story by Chul himself and I guess he just freaked out or lost it (or both maybe) and wanted to finish Chul off. It looks like a murder because we see Chul breathing and asking for help but he still is not a human being no matter how much he looks like one, especially in the eyes of his creator. Don't get me wrong, I don't approve what OSM did but I try to understand his point of view. He was scared, drunk and kinda lost his sanity. It's not an excuse but well

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and @Kels I think YJ handling it well could tie into her being the original creator. Especially if he was created as a friend/helper for her. It's normal to play with imaginary friends at that age and so while I'd be freaked out, I'd also be really really pleased if they were real.

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I mean, I do still sympathize with Oh Seung Mo for that initial murder attempt because I could see him being so freaked out as to believe he's stuck in some sort of nightmare. Obviously, this is the moment when he crosses the line. While I can no longer excuse someone who crosses the line, I can still sympathize with him.

I get how scared OSM must have been when he actually got dragged physically into Kang-chul's world after trying to end it. He had been scared of his lack of control over him, but this is the first time he realized his character's will was strong enough to reach out and literally grab hold of him. I'm sure it was horrifying enough for him to just want it to end. At that point, his mind had already twisted Kang-chul into that of a monster. Obviously, no amount of understanding can change the fact that he stabbed Kang-chul in the flesh. A character, yes, but a living and breathing one, pleading for help.

What's sad is that if OSM had displayed even a little bit of remorse or understanding towards Kang-chul, he definitely would not have shot him. Hell, it was only after being a jerk in a thousand different ways that Kang-chul broke and shot. OSM's continued murder attempts and harsh, superior behavior towards him this episode are what anger me the most, but it all plays into the continued denial he has to have in order to believe in his own innocence. At this point, though, Kang-chul has proven himself to be more than just a character, whether OSM likes it or not.

I found it tragic when Kang-chul was willing to accept whatever ending, as long as it included catching the criminal, but OSM couldn't even give him that. These are the reasons I now find him hard to sympathize with. When even your webtoon character knows how to display more mercy than you, you should really begin to question what sort of monster you're becoming.

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The writing is so tight, I love it. Just when I think they have plot holes, lo and behold, it was actually a legit storyline.

Like how does Kang Chul knew for sure that YJ cannot be killed in his world, it was because he pulled her dad first and saw first hand how he was invincible there.

Is the drama 16 episodes in total? I wonder what kind of crazy ride we're in if the first 5 episode was already like this.

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IKR. In some dramas, the things they throw at the audience that seem to be clues turn out to be either plot holes or just random stuff. So far the writer showed us that she is in control of the details.

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Yes , I predict all of us would be died by the end !

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Well, whether it's happy ending or tragic ending, as long the quality of the story line is consistent till the last episode, at least we will all die satisfied.

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@cjc and maknaee

Death by drama! Has a nice ring to it! lol!

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@Divyrus

Imagine your death certificate saying

Cause of Death : Complication of having one's mind blown and breathing problem after repeated gasping due to a great drama.

What a way to go ?

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No! We can't die yet. I still want and need to see Lee Jongsuk's project in the future ?

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Amen to that. If they think KC will is strong, they've yet to meet a drama fan who NEEDS to see the end of a show. Or watch the next one. ;)

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That's what I love about this drama! Nothing is randomly shown. Everything has a reason and helps moving forward with the story.

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YES! I loved how W just plants these seeds of doubts and play mind games with the audience. With such a thrilling plot, of course everyone's trying to deconstruct everything and find the clues and loopholes and outsmart the drama yet somehow we end up even more impressed when the story unravels in a completely unexpected way.

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@Cipher

I know right??! Not to be out of topic here, Am just out from licking my massive wound that is 'The cursed child' and I swear this episode was like a balm for it! OOC indeed !

So THANK YOU for your comment!

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Why was it a massive wound? Wasn't it supposed to be really good?

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@BlaBlaBla

Yeah everyone said so and the reviews are overwhelmingly positive which is absolutely baffling !

Majority are just happy to dive into the world again but the OOC(Out Of Character) moments are so horrible, so many were thrown in just for sake of twist and shock that if we were to accept this as canon - it changes the funadamental core of many characters NOT in good way.

I don't want to put spoilers , but for someone who grew up with these characters, the butchery of some major ones lik Harry, Hermione,Cedric - it physically hurts that I had lot of angry tears. :'(

Thorne the writer seems exactly like dad here. Throwing random fanfiction-esque stuff together for sake of shock and twists for no reason and for no gratification!

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I totally agree! Seemed like a weak reflection of what it could have been!!

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Thanks for that non-spoilery review. I'm just gonna stay away from it, then. :)

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I feel you. I regret the day I thought it was a good idea to read that book. it was NOT! :'(
now I'm determined to never read "go set a watchman" from harper lee. atticus is one of my favourite characters and I want him to stay that till the end.

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also @kitkat, I haven't read either yet but I know the stories--and I feel for you. Even knowing she wrote Go Set a Watchman first doesn't fix it--you want them to be the person you read and loved!

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I know there's more reason as to why the comic came to life. It's not just Kang Chul's will. There are other elements in play we still don't know.

I wonder how his father went back from the comic world cause he didn't went back together with Yeon Joo in the real world at the rooftop. Also, I'm curious of his meetings with Kang Chul because he said 'they've met a few times' not just once. And how come his part isn't on the comic. Is it because he's the creator.

I wonder who the culprit will turn out as there isn't one purposely made to be one from the start. The culprit could be a reason the comic came to life.

SPOILER......

I know the culprit can go in and out of both worlds and has a mind and will of it's own as well. I just wonder if its gonna be a new/different character or will turn out to be a character we know.

I really can't guess what's gonna happen next even with a preview. Best drama as of this year!!!!

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SPOILER (?)

Okay I have to get this out there, or it'll drive me crazy thinking about it - BUT the way the dad picked up the pen and hesitated when Kang Chul ordered him at gun point to draw the killers face, but then ultimately went with the 'there's no face because the killer was just a trope to make you a hero' yeah, THAT: did anyone else feel that he was going to say something along the lines as, he Kangchul was the murderer all along? Like that seems the kind of convoluted ending OSM would conjure up on one of his depressive alcoholic binges. And I can't seem to get the idea out of my head that dad planned on making Kang Chul the killer all along, because A) this webtoon is a horror genre and not all horrors have the lead be a hero. And B) the line Kang Chul said in the preview for episode five, and then again in today's preview for episode 6 has two possible meanings:

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I don't know, just something to think about. I mean obviously he isn't the murderer because dad never wrote an ending, but the way he went shifty and weird when asked to draw the killers face pointblank seemed to indicate that he definitely DID have an ending in mind. Or possibly a couple of endings, none of which would have pleased Kang Chul in he least, hence his hesitance.

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W - the expense of being a bad writer

hahaha I like this theory more, the dad is bad at story telling and the webtoon is not popular but when Kang Chul make his own story, the webtoon becomes better,

so the dad also feels threaten on the fact that all of his achievement is not because of him but because of Kang Chul,

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This idea--Dad is a crap writer, and W gets popular only when Kang Chul takes control-- is a step past theory for me. I thought it was fairly explicit that that is what was going on.

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@Amilia. Yeah I agree here! I didnt think of it at first but it makes perfect sense. that the reason W the manhwa is so addictive and popular, is because KC made it so. It makes sense, dad is a lazy writer and a cynic (perhaps borderline nihilist even). but KC's entire character is strong, heroic and most of all hopeful. the hope that justice can be served, and at solace/peace will eventually be found. its clearly what kept KC going all that time. This would also explain why papa Oh hated KC so very much. on top of all the things KC was good at, he was also better at writing a story than him! talk about an existential crisis haha.

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But Sung-moo also said he predetermined Chul to be a forthright hero who could never harm an innocent person or enact revenge outside the law, and Sung-moo seemed to really believe that. Also, Chul clearly doesn't remember the murders so would it be amnesia, or a fugue state? I really hope the drama doesn't go there.

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I had to go and re-watch that scene and yes! it looks like he hesitated for a moment like he knew something but still said that there's no murderer. omg if there is one and the murderer traveled to real world?! I don't know anymore??!!!

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Maybe the killer is the fathers friend ? Maybe that's why daddy oh hesitated and didn't tell chul. He probably didn't want to further hurt chul

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I think he hesitated because he knew how Kang Chul would react when he found out there was no killer. He considered for a second just drawing a random face before giving up and coming clean.

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When OSM hesitated I thought he was going to say that Chul is the murderer because in the webtoon they never found any evidence or any lead for a long time. But a webtoon traveler from the real world?! I would be very surprised if this is the case, now that would be wow.

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@ Amilia that's what I thought for a while too--but it seems like the strong thing to do and I don't know if Dad is strong enough to do it (he's really made some poor life decisions up to this point). Him deliberately not telling could be cruel--or just mistakenly soft-hearted. If he's protecting somebody, is it the murderer or Chul (or are they one and the same, as already speculated?)

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I mean there doesn't even have to be physical proof that it was Kang Chul that murdered his parents, because that's not how OSM wrote KC character, the murdere was the perfect crime because there was no motive or proof. But seeing as how OSM was a failed writer before Kang Chul took control of his own fate, it's not unlikely that the possible ending he was going for was the fact that Kang Chul was the killer all along, and for whatever reason he seems to have subconsciously blocked it out of his memory.

I mean even if this twist played out in the web toon. Kang Chul might just have rejected it like he did all those attempts at having him killed off, or he simply would have believed it and that would have been the end, especially since OSM pretty much confessed that Kang Chul was never meant to have a happy ending.

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That sub conscious thing, even I thought that was the case. After all what better way for dad to get back at Kang Chul? It could also explain why dad was so keen on egging him on to shoot him trying to make Kang Chul shoot him(or at least go far enough to make him feel guilty) so when and if dad writes an ending for Kang Chul where it was him who was the murderer then Kang Chul wouldn't fight it.

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I had that thought as well. "boy is KC going to be pissed if it is his face that gets drawn."

Although I was also suspecting that there was no killer.

At this point they can take it either way.

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Dammit I figured this was true but still.

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from the beginning, i never thought there is a specific someone acting as the killer/culprit. IMO, he/she is just a plot device created by the writer to get the story moving, thus some hooded anonymous figure with a face that can't be shown. there are instances in the comic world that a figure appears out of nowhere, a plot device, with no other purpose but like in W, just to kill KC's family and in later parts, kill him. the sole purpose is to do that. he is never intended to be someone, unless a plot twist is introduce in the later parts where it would be a certain character already existing in the mahwa.

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I agree with this. I saw the hesitation as him thinking if he'll divulge the fact that the killer was nonexistent and was just a trope, or if he'll draw a random face so that Kang Chul would stop pointing that gun at his face.

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