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W–Two Worlds: Episode 7

Have you ever seen a girl so happy to be going to prison? I’ve seen a lot of cute, spunky drama heroines in my day, but this one puts a smile on my face every time I see her. Maybe it’s that her love for the hero is so unabashed, or maybe it’s that she wears all of her emotions on her sleeve, joy or pain. Maybe she just feels like the ultimate fangirl, and I get to watch this show every week feeling like she’s me.

Note: I’m sure we were all on pins and needles waiting for MBC to decide whether or not they’d air W or the Rio Olympics. Lucky for us, Episode 7 was broadcast as normal, but MBC confirmed that Thursday’s Episode 8 will be pre-empted. So sadly, this will be our only dose of W this week. Cruel, cruel drama gods! Some of us have addictions that need feeding, you know! *fistshake*

 

 
EPISODE 7 RECAP

Once Yeon-joo discovers that Kang Chul has been suspended in time for the last two months and can be saved, she enlists Su-bong’s help in trying to continue the manhwa. After a frustrating attempt to draw a rescue scene, Su-bong gives up, and then suddenly remembers something he heard from her father long ago…

Su-bong: “About W… that Noona created it.” Omo. “He said that Kang Chul was a character you created,” Su-bong recalls.

Yeon-joo looks at him quizzically, and Su-bong gets all worked up as he remembers her dad saying that W was based on stories that Yeon-joo had created when she was young.

That finally seems to jog her memory, and we flash back to 2000, when Yeon-joo was a teenager. She and her friends were glued to the TV during the Sydney Olympics, when real-life sports shooter Kang Cho-hyun was competing for the gold medal. She lost in the final round and took home silver, and young Yeon-joo was crushed.

But that gave her an idea for a character, and that night she began to sketch out his characteristics: He was a national sports shooter, in his second year of high school just like her, and she decided he’d be 185cm tall.

When Mom came into her room, Yeon-joo hid the sketch under her schoolbooks, but over the phone she told her friend all about her new ideal man: He’s a tall, muscular, good-looking genius who’s nice, and funny, and also good at sports, and he wins a shooting competition in a last-minute reversal. Lol, this explains Kang Chul SO WELL—he was invented by a teenage girl!

Her friend got excited and asked when she could meet this awesome oppa, and Yeon-joo’s face fell as she said, “You can’t… there’s no way to meet him.” She sighed dreamily, thinking he’d never be real.

As the camera spins past the ’90s idol posters on her wall, we fade back into Yeon-joo’s old room in the present day, where she sits hunched over a tablet screen, trying to draw. Su-bong comes in with coffee and coaxes her to show him what she drew, and he busts out laughing immediately.

She’s attempted to draw Kang Chul, but Su-bong laughs and says she created a new character. Yeon-joo cringes and says this is too hard, and Su-bong points out that her father always said she was talented, and dreamt of becoming a manhwa artist. Yeon-joo sighs that she stopped drawing eons ago and shakes her digital pen in frustration, saying that they didn’t have these back in her day.

But when Su-bong suggests waiting for her father to return, Yeon-joo warns him not to make a peep about this to Dad. “I’m going to save him. I’m going to save Kang Chul,” she says with determination.

She falls asleep at her tablet and wakes with a start, while dreaming of Chul sinking in the river. She struggles to hold back her tears as she gets back to work trying to draw him.

Well something must have worked, because the next thing we know, Kang Chul is rescued by divers as soon as he jumps from the bridge, and Yeon-joo reappears in Kang Chul’s world, back in prison. She grins from ear to ear.

Kang Chul is startled to wake up in bed as if nothing happened, and So-hee asks why on earth he was on that bridge. She assumes that he was pushed off by someone else, but Chul just looks at her like he can’t believe she’s moving and talking again. He asks what day it is and what happened, and is doubly shocked to learn that almost no time has passed since he left this world.

Do-yoon comes rushing in and says that Yeon-joo was found in prison, and Chul immediately grabs a jacket and heads back there to see her. He switches on the radio as he drives, and when he hears that Yeon-joo is being transported tonight, he swings the car around and literally cuts off the prison transport caravan in the middle of the road.

The cops all draw their guns on him, but they pull back when they see that it’s Kang Chul. He asks for five minutes to speak with Yeon-joo, and pretty much bulldozes his way onto the prison bus.

Yeon-joo looks surprised to see him there, but she just smiles and asks him pleasantly if he’s okay. Kang Chul is fraught with emotion and just barely ekes out, “How…?” and Yeon-joo says brightly that there just happened to be a police rescue boat nearby when he jumped, and there just happened to be divers on that boat.

Chul asks hesitantly after her father, and she says that Dad is alive and well, and after two months of recovery, he’s even gone on vacation. Chul wonders if maybe her father brought him back to life, but Yeon-joo says it wasn’t Dad: “I saved you.” She shows him the giant red callus on her finger (oh, so she DID draw him back to life?) and teases that he’s indebted to her for saving his life three times over now.

Chul asks how, but Yeon-joo says she’ll answer his question if he answers hers first. He can tell that she’s mimicking him, but she just continues on and says that if his life goals have changed, he can make new ones instead of jumping in rivers. She lightly mocks him for only having revenge as his sole motivation in life, and gives him a new immediate goal: Get her out of here.

She asks him to get her out through legal channels, not escape like the last time, so that she doesn’t have to be on the run every time she comes here to meet him. Aw, are you planning on coming here often?

Yeon-joo says it’s the least he could do for someone who saved his life, and promises to answer his question once he gets her out of jail. Chul’s eyes are wet with tears, and he argues that it won’t be easy, but she just tells him to work hard at it then, and not think of anything else.

The officer prods Kang Chul to end the conversation so they can get on their way, and Yeon-joo adds that this isn’t Dad’s story anymore: “That ended completely. From now on, think of it as a sequel that we’re creating together. My taste is different from Dad’s. I really dislike murder cases, revenge, gunfights, thrillers, stuff like that. My taste is sweet romance.” Haha, awww yeaaaah.

He turns back to look at her, and she adorably reminds him of his mission by waving her handcuffed arms up in the air. Chul is deep in thought as he drives down the bridge past where he jumped, and when he returns to his penthouse suite, he remembers seeing all the conceptual drawings for this space back in Yeon-joo’s world.

He’s even more thrown when he looks at So-hee, who’s fallen asleep in a chair while waiting up for him, and Do-yoon, who rushes in to ask where he’s been. I can’t even imagine what it feels like to look at your friends and your whole world and know they aren’t real. Chul shakes away what he’s really thinking and just asks for his legal team to be called.

Yeon-joo’s interrogator gets even more vicious the second time around, and she just sits there terrified, shaking and not saying a word. Thankfully Kang Chul comes by to see her first thing in the morning, and the detective is happy to accommodate him with a private visiting room with all the cameras shut off.

Yeon-joo sits down eagerly and is surprised that Chul already found a way to get her out. She chirps brightly, not sensing the dark mood he’s in, so she’s completely startled when he asks angrily, “Who’re you to decide my life as you please? What gives you the right?” Oh.

He says he’s not really that curious about how she saved him, since he can already guess that she drew it. “But you draw me, and you bring me back to life—do you consider that your right? Why did you follow up however you wanted, the death that I chose?” he demands to know.

He asks what gives her the authority, and points out the irony of being driven to death when he was struggling to live, and being brought back to life when he wanted to die. Yeon-joo just stares back in shock as he asks bitterly, “Are you messing with me? Is this thrilling and fun for you people?!”

She’s so taken aback that she doesn’t know how to answer, and he asks if she thought he’d be grateful that she saved him. He scoffs at her calling this a sequel, and argues that this is just a place where Yeon-joo comes when she’s bored, and she gets to return to the real world when she’s done. Ouch. He brings her near tears when he spits out, “Did you bring me back to life to play romance? Do I look like a toy to you?!”

Yeon-joo asks in disbelief how he can interpret her intentions that way, and Chul lets out a sigh, asking how he’s supposed to keep living like this. He tells her where he went this morning, as we see him visit his family’s graves in flashback.

Chul says that she has a mother and a father, but he doesn’t: “Before, they had passed away. But now, they never existed.” He calls himself an orphan, born from the pen of some alcoholic, and he doesn’t even know what he was sad about and missing all these years when his family wasn’t real.

Chul says he isn’t grateful at all that she brought him back to life: “Who would want to live this life again?” Yeon-joo breaks down in tears, crying that she wasted her time doing a stupid thing if she was just going to be resented for it. She sobs loudly, regretting having spent all that anxious concern on him for two whole months all by herself.

He asks why she did it, when she should’ve just been a doctor and gone on dates and lived her life, and not held onto a lousy manhwa and gotten herself imprisoned all over again. “Because I love you!” she shouts. OMO.

Chul is stunned silent, and Yeon-joo admits, “I know it makes no sense. But I’ve fallen in love with you for real.” That’s really the last thing he expected to hear from her, but before he can even react, Yeon-joo vanishes right before his eyes.

She reappears back in her old bedroom, still wearing her prison jumpsuit. The tears come spilling out as she thinks back to the times she’d shouted “I love you” at Kang Chul just to get a reaction out of him, and how the same words meant very different things the third time around.

Kang Chul sits there staring at the empty chair where Yeon-joo was sitting, and a tear trickles down his cheek as he thinks back to when they first met. He smiles wistfully, and finally gets up to leave after lingering for a while.

But just as he’s about to walk out, he senses a change and turns back around. There’s Yeon-joo, rematerialized in her chair and looking up at him. He raises an eyebrow and she avoids his gaze, embarrassed, and calls him out on the fact that he acted so immovable, but he was shaken by her “I love you” after all.

She tells him not to blame her too much either, because it’s not like she wants to come here—she keeps getting pulled in when he thinks of her, like now, and in the river. She asks hesitantly if she’s wrong, and then he finally breaks into a smile and says, “You’re right. I was scared… that I would never see you again.” Oh, swoon.

Then he marches over to her and tilts her face up to meet his in a kiss. They’re so lost in the moment that they don’t even notice that the detective has returned with coffee, and he’s more flustered than they are when he sees them lip-locked.

After the detective scurries out, Yeon-joo asks in her hazy kiss fog if the detective was just here, and Chul says it doesn’t matter. He picks her up and puts her down on the table (rawr), and she throws her handcuffed hands over his head so they can get serious about the making out. My butterflies are having butterflies.

The detective comes out and asks Do-yoon if Kang Chul knows the suspect, and Do-yoon tries to play dumb, but the detective mutters, “I think they know each other. I think they know each other really well.” LOL.

Yeon-joo could not look happier lying in her cold prison cell that night, and she narrates that this was the happiest moment of her entire life—in that instant, she wasn’t thinking about Mom, who was worried that she hadn’t come home yet, or even concerned whether she’d ever be able to go back to work as a doctor. She narrates, “My life suddenly felt unreal, and I even began to believe that here, this moment—that this life was real.”

Yeon-joo beams when she’s called out to meet a visitor, but she’s disappointed when it’s just Do-yoon and the lawyer, without Kang Chul. Do-yoon is here to relay a message, and in flashback we see Chul getting dressed that morning and telling Do-yoon that he looked into what kind of “sweet romance” women like, and there’s no end to the different kinds.

So he told Do-yoon to ask for Yeon-joo’s help in narrowing the field, because he’s got a debt to repay. After copious hours of research, he’d narrowed down the options to: (1) Cinderella at a fancy party; (2) a romantic trip to the countryside; or (3) simple romance in everyday life.

Yeon-joo’s reactions are intercut with Kang Chul’s list, and she looks flabbergasted at the choices presented. Chul decides at the last minute to add another option: “Number four: provocative and shocking 19-and-over concept.” He flings his jacket off his shoulder and makes a kissy face complete with silent rawr (at Do-yoon, lol) for emphasis.

The best part is that Do-yoon seems to be reenacting this for Yeon-joo’s benefit, because she stares back at him with her jaw hanging open. He adds in an embarrassed voice that Chul said his personal preference is for number four. Well of course it is.

Yeon-joo can’t believe she’s being made to choose this in all seriousness, like the romance is some kind of business proposal, but Do-yoon says this is Kang Chul’s style. She says no to four and hesitates on the Cinderella party, but in the end she chooses number three (the simple, everyday romance).

Except she’s holding up four fingers as she says “three,” and Do-yoon points it out. Pff, well that’s a Freudian slip in the most literal sense of the term. Yeon-joo asks what the point of all that is when she’s stuck in jail, but Do-yoon says she’ll be out soon, and that the lawyer will explain that in detail.

Meanwhile, Ajusshi comes to Kang Chul’s office to see him, and the first thing he says is, “You’re getting married?” What?

Yeon-joo hears the same thing from Chul’s lawyer and gasps, and the lawyer says he’s in the middle of creating a paper trail to prove that Chul and Yeon-joo had already registered their marriage in the U.S. last year.

She’s even more shocked that she’s about to be married in the past, not the future, and the lawyer explains drily that their problem is that she can’t verify her identity or explain why she ran away after saving Chul’s life. But if they make her his secret wife, it gives her an identity, and a reason that she attempted to keep herself secret and refused to testify.

Ajusshi worries that registering a marriage, however fake, will be hard for Chul to get out of down the road. But Chul says with a smile that if he gets stuck he’ll just live with her. He brushes aside Ajusshi’s concerns about his money, saying that money holds no meaning for him now.

And then Chul really shocks Ajusshi when he says that he’s going to give up looking for his family’s killer. Ajusshi can tell something has changed, and admits to feeling like there are gaps in his memory. He asks if Chul really went to another dimension like they were talking about before, and Chul says that he did, but can’t tell Ajusshi anything more because it’ll only cause him unbearable pain.

Chul says that all he can say now is that Yeon-joo’s identity has been confirmed, and there’s no problem with her becoming his wife, “Though I do worry whether she’ll always stay by my side.” He adds that there’s no reason to search for his family’s killer anymore, and asks Ajusshi not to ask why.

He’s frustrated, but Ajusshi doesn’t argue and just asks why Chul went to Hangang Bridge that night. Chul admits that he went there to die, and says that despite still feeling that way now, he’s found a small desire to live, and he’s going to start thinking about how he should live his life from now on.

Yeon-joo has no idea if she’s doing the right thing, but she testifies to being Kang Chul’s secret wife who’s been living with him for the past year. Chul testified that she ran away the first time because they were contemplating divorce, and she didn’t want to be outed publicly as his wife. Yeon-joo nods stiffly and affirms his version of the story.

And with that, she’s officially released from police custody, and Do-yoon is ready with a wedding band for her to wear. It’s so strange that Kang Chul is romancing her by proxy. She knows it’s a fake marriage, but the ring still makes her all fluttery anyway.

Do-yoon hands her a pair of sunglasses to wear as they exit, and she finds out why when she’s met with a throng of reporters outside. The bodyguards hustle her inside the car, and Yeon-joo is shocked again when they arrive in the penthouse to an army of servants, all bowing and calling her madam.

She asks Do-yoon if she’s really supposed to share a room with Kang Chul, and he points out that they have to keep up appearances with so many people watching. Oh, how I love contract romances.

He says that Chul will be home later tonight, and once she’s alone in the bedroom, she flops down in the chair and wonders how she ended up married. There’s a stack of newspapers on the table all with giant headlines speculating on Kang Chul’s secret wife, and it finally starts to sink in. She screams, “Did I really get married?”

She feels better after a hot shower, and the ring on her finger gives her pause. She looks around and takes in all the his-and-hers sets of things, from toothbrushes, to bathrobes, to underwear.

She gets a little thrill out of getting to peek at Chul’s underwear drawer, and of course Chul sneaks up behind her while she’s holding up a pair of his boxer briefs. I am so embarrassed for you right now.

He just watches her with a devilish smile and says, “It was number four. Your taste was number four.” She swears that she didn’t know what it was when she picked it up, and he argues that surely they have men’s underwear in her world. She’s mortified that he keeps teasing her, while he can’t stop grinning, saying that he’s happy to see her.

She pouts that he didn’t visit her in prison, but he says he was too busy building their fake dating history for their unplanned wedding. She says that marriage was a bit beyond the sweet romance that she asked for, and he says they can start doing that stuff now.

He says he studied hard too, and remembers a thing he wanted to try. While he goes out to retrieve a book, Yeon-joo clutches her thumping heart, trying not to swoon too hard. Chul returns with a book that he says is supposedly filled with romantic things women want, and he opens it up to an illustration of a man tying a woman’s hair back.

Yeon-joo laughs as he insists on tying her hair, and he explains that he had to study because he doesn’t know any of this romance stuff. Gawd, that is so adorable. Even as he’s tying her hair, he wonders what’s so sweet about this, but she loves it.

He tells her to flip through the book and find other stuff she wants to try since he thinks they can do about ten in a day, though she doesn’t see the need to tick off a to-do list like it’s homework. He absently answers, “We have to do a lot while we can. We don’t know when we’ll see each other again.” No no, why are we talking about heartbreak already?

Yeon-joo stops at his words, and he realizes that he might’ve said the wrong thing. He tells her to stop staring at him like that or else she might vanish again, and wonders if there’s something wrong with his heart because he’s shaken so easily these days. He tells her not to cry or confess anything anymore, if she wants to stay with him a long time.

He manages to tie her hair after a few mangled attempts, and then leads her by the hand into the bedroom. He plops her down on the bed and climbs on top of her, but it’s just to tease her before he plops down next to her and pats his shoulder for her to lean on.

He shows her that even book-reading is a thing in the book, and insists that they have to snuggle this way to read together. Why are you so cute? She’s amazed that he memorized the entire book and all the page numbers, and he asks her about a few of the illustrations, like whether women really find grocery shopping together romantic.

Yeon-joo says it’s totally romantic to have a guy carry your grocery basket and discuss what to eat that night, so he laughs and says they’ll go grocery shopping tonight then. He’s amused that she likes everything in the book, from shoelace-tying to kitchen back-hugs.

At every illustration Yeon-joo sighs happily, “I like it,” and then notices the matching wedding band that Kang Chul is wearing. He asks her about back-hugs but she’s staring at his ring and she sighs, “I really like it.”

She smiles shyly when he points to an illustration of a forehead kiss, and he decides that one is easy and plants a kiss on her forehead. She accuses him of enjoying this rather than doing it to repay his debt to her, and he pretends not to know what she’s talking about, all while leaning over her for a real kiss.

But his bodyguard has the worst timing ever and walks in on them, and all three of them jump and flail in opposite directions. The bodyguard keeps his back turned while Chul and Yeon-joo take turns pretending to be REALLY engrossed in that book, hee.

Chul scolds him for not knocking, and the bodyguard admits to not being used to him having a wife. He says that Do-yoon wants to see him on the roof, and Chul wonders why he didn’t come down here like usual.

He smiles at Yeon-joo’s reaction to being caught in a compromising position and tells her to index the pages that she wants to do tonight. He adds with a wink, “I’ll say it again—I like the 19-and-over stuff.” She hiccups in response, and collapses on the bed clutching her heart again.

Kang Chul takes the elevator up, but as soon as the doors close, his phone rings from an unknown caller and suddenly words appear before him: “Where are you? How did you live?” Aaaaack, is it the No-Face Killer?

Alarmed, Kang Chul rings the security station, but as soon as he does, the caller hangs up and the chyron disappears. Oh no, we didn’t switch genres at all, did we?

Up on the roof, Chul asks Do-yoon to trace the last call he got, but doesn’t tell him more than that. Do-yoon hands him a resignation letter from So-hee, and we see her crying earlier that day in flashback. Do-yoon had told her to talk to Chul directly, but she didn’t want to see his face.

Do-yoon reminded her that Chul’s marriage was fake, but she asked if it really looked fake to him, because it didn’t seem that way to her. Do-yoon said that even if that were true, So-hee should separate work from her personal feelings, but she said through tears that she must not be very professional because she couldn’t imagine doing her job while looking at Yeon-joo every day.

In the present, Chul says they should let So-hee rest a few days, and he’ll go see her after that. Do-yoon has one other thing to say, but he hesitates to bring it up because it’s so strange.

We return to the flashback as So-hee said goodbye to Do-yoon with finality, despite his insistence that she’d be back. She held out her hand for a shake, and when he shook it, her hand started to fritz in and out and disappear. And for a split-second, it morphed into a manhwa drawing of a hand. Whoa.

Do-yoon freaked out and pulled his hand back, but then So-hee’s hand reappeared back to normal, and she didn’t seem to notice anything wrong at all. It makes Do-yoon wonder if he’s crazy, and in the present Chul wonders what it means.

When Chul returns to the suite, Yeon-joo is asleep, and he chuckles to see how many pages of that book she put sticky tabs on. His phone rings from that unknown caller again, and this time he reaches for his gun before answering.

Again the words appear before him as the caller speaks, asking, “Where are you? How did you go back? Who said you could die? I waited for you for so long.” Chul asks who it is, and the voice answers, “Who am I? Don’t you know me? I killed your family ten years ago in your house.”

Chul remembers Dad telling him that there was no killer because it was just a backstory that he invented to make his character strong, but on the phone, No-Face insists that he killed Chul’s family, each with a bullet straight to the head. He brags that he’s a sharp-shooter just like Kang Chul, and says that Chul can’t stop looking for him, and can’t die yet: “The end can only be the end after you and I finish it.”

And then, No-Face says something that makes Chul’s blood run cold: “I see you have a new family? It’s that woman’s turn now. I’ll make a bullet hole in her forehead. Wait for me.”

OH NOOOOOOO.

 
COMMENTS

I knew that romance genre switch was too good to be true! Everybody throw away your cell phones right this instant! Though truthfully, I prefer this—the romance is all the sweeter when there’s death and mayhem constantly clipping at their heels, and every happy moment feels all the more precious because it’s slipping from their grasp even as they’re enjoying it in the present. It struck me that Kang Chul was so hyper-aware from the start of their relationship that it would be fleeting. I know part of that is just their inability to fully control when and how she comes and goes, but then it REALLY crushed me when he said she’d just go back to her real life someday when she got bored. Then I started thinking of Kang Chul as Winnie the Pooh and Yeon-joo as Christopher Robin, and then I wanted to curl into a ball and cry. You can’t leave him there and just grow up, okay?? I can’t handle that!

I still have so many questions about Yeon-joo having created Kang Chul’s character, because we’ve seen her draw two versions of him at two different points in her childhood now. As a teenager, it makes sense that she’d characterize Kang Chul as her ideal man, and I like that she draws inspiration from her real-life sports hero. But in the previous flashback when she was even younger, she was already drawing a boy with a gun, which makes me wonder what happened to make her like guns or even know about them at such a young age. Maybe it’s innocuous… or maybe there’s something really scary in her past that she’s repressed? Why didn’t she remember that she’d created Kang Chul? I want to believe that she created him out of love, wanting a friend or a protector or a soulmate. But I feel like I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop on his true origin story.

As much as I wanted Yeon-joo to take over control of the manhwa from Dad, I was worried about her clashing with Kang Chul over his free will, so I’m glad that he addressed it right away and met her with anger when she saved his life. Because from where he stands, the most infuriating part of his existence is being controlled by some artist’s whim, and I thought he was justified in asking if he was just a toy to her. I’m still worried that this will be a major problem for them, but if it’s really true that Chul can pull her into his world with his will, that puts them on closer footing. We’ve seen him manipulate his own world and break the fourth wall to talk back at Dad, so I fully believe that he’s got a mind of his own and isn’t just acting according to Yeon-joo’s will. But I have a feeling that Yeon-joo having creator-god control over his universe means more angst than she’s anticipating, and that he’s got a better grasp on how fleeting their romance might really be.

I was so saddened by the idea that So-hee was starting to fade away because she was being phased out of Kang Chul’s story. There’s something so sad about the supporting characters not having lives of their own, and not existing for any other reason except to serve the hero’s tale. It made me think that now I want Yeon-joo to save all of the main characters from the manhwa world, even though that seems highly improbable. All of the rules seem to be changing, and I don’t know if that’s because Yeon-joo created the sequel, or because Kang Chul crossed into the real world, but now the other characters are starting to become more sentient, and No-Face Killer has totally gone rogue, which is exciting… in a scary death way.

When No-Face was talking to Chul in the last scene, I wondered if he was just a rampaging killer because Dad had created him with no logical motivation behind his murders, and his sole reason for existing was to kill Kang Chul’s family and be his ultimate enemy. He literally has no other purpose or characteristics—I mean, he doesn’t even have a FACE, for crying out loud—which would explain his single-minded drone-like devotion to killing Chul’s family, without rhyme or reason. It’s a clever consequence of a creator’s lack of detail (how often have we met antagonists who seem poorly motivated?), except in the horror story version, that villain actually becomes the most monstrous version of the few traits Dad bothered to give him. I am officially scared of No-Face, especially since he seems to have developed free will of his own. How? Why? Can’t we put a lid on that? Can we call Dad back from New Zealand?

But for now I’m just basking in the fun of Yeon-joo and Kang Chul’s contract marriage, which is hilarious and delightfully upbeat. Contract romance buys you such great motivation to force two people together (not that these two actually needed prodding in that department, ahem), and I always love the comedic antics when our heroine gets thrown into a new situation she didn’t expect in the manhwa world. Plus, now with feelings out on the table, we’re in for an interesting chapter in the romance where Yeon-joo has become someone Chul wants to protect, giving him a new purpose in life (though it’ll surely come at the cost of much angst for us). It’s all so sweet and romantic and sad at the same time, because they’re both so aware of the fact that they’re defying nature by being together and that time and pretty much all laws of the universe aren’t on their side. But… doesn’t fortune favor the brave in all fairytales? Surely there are loopholes to be exploited!

 
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I was so happy to see that it was out. Two things today:

That voice!
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Now, I'm torn between finishing watching the episode a second time and reading the recap.

The episode can wait. I'll read the recap. Thanks GF!

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+1 You went through the same thought process I did. I'm off to reload it now, though. ^^

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I love the new page option on mobile comments.

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♥ for noticing :)

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Yay! Thanks for pointing it out! Did mary make it happen? Thank you thank you thank you so much! :)
Previously had trouble reading comments beyond first page. With this can read all the comments! Yay! :D

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I did the same thing...and read the recap first as well.

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I smell some noble idiocy on the horizon. But this episode.. *fans self* how the heck are we suppose to wait an entire two weeks for episode 8?!

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idk if idiocy will come or not, even though I love time travel stories but I also believe they don't have to be together because they live in different world.
Just like this story, their togetherness will be solved if they can create a world where they both belong and they both already aware of that difficulty since they keep talking about how yeon joo immerse herself in the webtoon and start to indifferent towards real life while kangchul shows some concern that she'll be gone.
They literally can't be together in normal situation,
except if kangchul is based on real person or magic involved.

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Is it just me that feels like our OTP absolutely HAS to have a happily ever after. It's just to pathetic and sad if they don't otherwise, think about it all things considered nothing is in favor of Kang Chul, his family, friends, success, his very existence is all fabricated and on top of that add to it the fact that he's just expected to fizzle out of existence.. That's to melodramatic for me. Not original at all.

I'm rooting for them to figure out a solution to all of this, maybe they can make the sequel about Do Yoon and So Hee and they're the leads that way they won't cease existing just because Kang Chul's not around anymore, and Kang Chul can himself step into the real world and be with Yeon Joo. He certainly has the smarts to make it.

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The melodramatic points would exceeds the ones in Uncontrollably Fond. This drama even involves two kind of universes. But that I'll still love this drama no matter what. XD

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I am rooting for the writer to figure out a way for the two to be together. I am hoping for something amazing and epic given that they are worlds apart.

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They have to have a good solution. And if it's like MLftS, I will scream. "Just come when you can." No!

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Awww, I hope he does. I really want to believe that this possibility is open, otherwise, it would be too painful to watch. Anyway, my hopes are high since when Kang Chul woke up in W again, he had scratches in his hand :D , from his fight with Dad, so somehow he becomes a real human when he goes to the real world. :D

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Oh, yeah. KC did have scars. Never thought I would be so happy someone was hurt lol

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If Do Min Joon can find his way back to Chun Song Yi, KC, you can do it!

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I don't know how the writer is going to make them have a happy ending, either yeon joo remains in that fake fabricated world with him forever or kang chul comes out . but he isn't even a real person! is he going to age like everyone else in real life.? furthermore he's a nobody in the real world,he cant take his chaebol money into the real world.

Although i hope they remain together. poor kang chul i feel sorry for him cos he is stuck in his matrix like existence. I don't think id be very happy knowing that im leaving a lie ..

I wonder if the rest of the characters can think like him? how bout do yoon who saw so hee turning transparent and that inspector. Will they realise their in this matrix environnent too and then want the BLUE pill to the REAL world ? HAHAH

And when she's in that fake world what happens with the webtoon? does it keep running and the every scene gets printed online?

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and here I believe that I will get a major heartbreak if they don't get together in the end. I better start preparing myself for whatever the ending would be ??

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I have not seen Nine but Queen In Hyun's man had a happy ending. But that could be possible because he was time travelling and he was real.

I have no idea how writer is gonna pull this one off. GF's Winnie the Pooh reference has all my senses on alert because more episodes we get , the more it looks like a story you love and live with but at one point you got to let go, grow up and live!

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I still remember Chilbongie heartbreak and I don't think I am gonna survive kang chul and yeon joo heartbreak easily

I want them to be together but it seems so unreal ,
it's kdrama anyway, they'll make it happy since the show premise is to give kang chul a happy ending

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Based on the preview, I think Yeo-joo is starting to be "human" in Kang Chul's world which will make har mortal to the threats of the Killer. I think it has something to do with what Dad said that she has become the heroine of the webtoon making her part of that world already.

I know Yeo-joo has another life to live and there is no way she can leave all that. I'm thinking of a You Came From The Stars kind of ending for Kang Chul and Yeo-joo just so they can end up together. I don't think I'll be able to handle the heartbreak otherwise.

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@Divyrus same. The Winnie the Pooh reference made me sad. I really hope the message isn't for YJ (and us) to grow past this story. Especially given that it already ended in the Yeolworld.

@Sancheezy chilbongie my love! *wailing*
This is dramaland. I can accept a nonsensical but happy ending before a sensible yet sad one. "Thank you for a challenging drama. I'll pay my check for happiness at the door."
Oh, but I want it to stay logical and original all the way through. My heart is breaking.

@jellybine but what about her family? Her job? Her friends? Wait, does this girl have friends?
Even without the preview, just based on the voice's threat, she is a part of the world now. Maybe she can stay in this dimension. Can they visit her mom at least?
I won't like a MLftS ending, but I guess I'll take what I can get. Just don't kill one of them, okay show?

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I can't remember the ending to Queen In Hyun's man (I didn't watch it entirely, my mother did) but I will always remember the ending to Nine.

[!!SHPOILERZ!!][ish]
It was a happy ending, and completely unexpected (at least for me) because from episode 1 the main character has a tumor (or cancer) which was irreversible and meant that he was 100% sure to die... and yet SOMEHOW this writer fixed that problem, and not in a dumb cringe kind of way, but a way that made perfect sense and had me go, "DAAAAYUM! Respect for you, writer-nim! RESPECT!"

Especially, she held the suspense all the way to the end, and the last twist lifted the ~depressing~ mood throughout the show which occasionally bogged it down (mostly in the beginning).
[!!!end of potential shpoilers!!!]

So, because of Nine, I have at least 85% faith that this writer already has an idea for an ending. A happy one. A planned one. Unlike what Yeon-Joo's moron of a papa did -.-

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I do feel like the writer put in a possible out for KC - in the real world they are making a movie version of the comic, and they'll need a star to fill that role - the writer just needs to find a way to bring KC out to the real world forever. He can clearly get a job as a movie star~in his own movie~

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For there to be a sequel with So Hee and Do Hoon, I think they would have to still figure out a happy ending for Kang Chul one that allows for him to leave the comic world and live with Yeon Joo, cause let's not forget that even when he's in the real world his story is still being written. And that's another thing, I'm starting to wonder if now that Yeon Joo is the writer, is the webtoon still being broadcasted since all the rules seem to be changing and the comic workds developed a mind of ifs own.

Speaking if which, they would need to start by giving the faceless killer an identity because by leaving him an anonymous entity they've actually made him all powerful and all knowing. And let's no forget that Assemblyman Han is still a thing, maybe Yeon Joo can tie up the killer to him somehow because he seems pretty steadfastly standing in the way of Kang Chul's happiness and doesn't seem like he'll be writing himself out of the story anytime soon just because our hero's changed his path.

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Not sure about noble idiocy, but I feel like Kang Chul is the most realistic and less impulsive character in this drama. Even when he decided to indulge YJ's romance demand, he knew that it will end someday because she's real and he's not. The ending is somehow inevitable.

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I like how KC, being the webtoon character, has a more realistic take on life rather than YJ who is real, but much rather prefer to be in the webtoon world. Like what YJ said, she began to lose touch with her real world.

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isn't we tired of this world?
YJ is found a place when all her dream can come true, so she'll likely loved that world, place when she has new life that is way more happy (at least for now)

on the other side, kangchul found a place where his existence doesn't mean anything other than a story or a toy, he begun to see things differently

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Aren't almost all form of entertainment (books, comic, music, movie, etc) a way to escape from reality? And ironically, YJ went inside the webtoon to escape the reality (that Kang Chul is a webtoon character and not a real person) and yet Kang Chul is there to burst her bubble very quickly. First with how he was not exactly happy that when YJ saved him from drowning, once again his life is decided by others. Then when he said that their romance is just not meant to be. Their story has yet to find a way to a 'happy ending' yet.

If at the end they cannot be together, I won't be raging because of how the story was set up. But if the writer managed to get them together (whether in real world or in the webtoon) without compromising the whole storyline or the drama quality, I would be estatic.

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@Celine cjc sancheezy

so true, he is the one who is thinking of reality. I dont know how YJ is so open to all this like she feels this is something that will work, and she would get to live n two worlds when she pleases.

"Aren’t almost all form of entertainment (books, comic, music, movie, etc) a way to escape from reality? And ironically, YJ went inside the webtoon to escape the reality (that Kang Chul is a webtoon character and not a real person) and yet Kang Chul is there to burst her bubble very quickly."

Exactly. Its like all great stories, the more you dive in to escape reality, at one point the fantasy becomes a mirror of real world and smacks on your head for all the things you ignored. I somehow feel that with all fictional characters you love and live this, at one point they all nudge you back to reality.

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Yes, Chul's mention of her disappearing surprised me a bit because I didn't think they would mention it this episode. But it fits KC to be logical about this.

@Sancheezy @Divyrus YJ seems ready to live for however long in webtoon and then be on pins and needles to get back. Which can't be healthy. Is the drama trying to send me a message? "The owner of this cellphone is currently unavailable. To leave a message press..."
I don't know what she was expecting or planning but when KC approached the subject, I understood her body language and reaction to be a dismissal of the topic. She doesn't want to think about it.

@cjc I suppose hoping for a happy ending here is like taking in a Romeo and Juliet adaptation and not expecting them to die. It has the star crossed lovers trope for a reason. Ok and it took a lot for me to say this I can prepare myself for a realistic and artistically sound ending. *maybe*

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I feel a lot of this is Kang Chul humouring Yeon Joo, since she doesn't seem to be grasping entirely the kind of existential dilemma he's going through so he's going with her flow assuming someday she'll snap out of it and get bored and return to her world, and like he said he's sad but has accepted that eventually a time will come when she wont beside him anymore.

There's still 9 episodes left, but why does the end scare me so much already ?! These two just HAVE to be happy and together, that's the inky ending I'll accept!

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Yes! To all of this. After what he said in the prison visit, I wasn't expecting him to fully indulge her. But he has given up on finding meaning to his life and she is the one good thing he has at the moment. So he's doing his all to be with her and be happy. That doesn't mean he won't drop hints about her getting bored or leaving uncontrollably.

P.S. love the name!

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I feel the same way. Kang Chul's smiles didn't reach his eyes and he seemed very depressed (with good reason).

While Yeon Joo seemed ecstatic. Her ignorance of his dilemma felt almost jarring to me. He just found out that his entire life is fabricated, his family never existed and his friends could disappear based on his whim. And all she wants is a sweet romance.

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@aoiaheen I was confused on his family's existence. Did they die immediately in the webtoon? Or are there any moments of them alive between his gold medal and the mass murder?
Not that they can be brought back. But maybe they existed at one time.

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@Purple Owl, his family was alive at least from the Olympics to a couple of years after, when he was taking up Computer Science against his dad's wishes.

He was probably being too simplistic (melodramatic? existential?) about that "my family never existed" bit. He had interactions with them, but it hurts to know that they were just "made" to give him an attachment and be killed off later on.

It's a bit of a mindf*ck. If I found out my life was a book, I'd also go through all the fun times with my family and wonder, "Do they really love me? Are they just required to love me because that's how they're written? If they were real people, would they have loved me?"

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@mary I'd go with existential. So he did have time with them. But he was questioning their attachment. I get that. Thanks.

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@purplecow, mary, I thinking the same too. He came into being when the manhwa started, as an 18 year old. Did the dad give him memories of his childhood? Does KC now realize he doesn't have any memories of his childhood and why that is? His love of his parents were programmed into him, not nurtured over 18 years. The pain of their loss was sadly real to him. But does he think that he doesn't have the right to mourn them?

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@aoiaheen
Yes! Thank you for this. Someone mentioned, in a earlier post, that if he has childhood memories he is real.

If KC realized that his lack of memories can't be dismissed that would be traumatizing. He's never thought about it before because it didn't matter. But now, given the context, it proves he was "born from a stylus". Does he have a right to feel anything for his family members?

On the flip side, what if he does have memories? Ahjussi is his father's friend. Was that from the few years mary mentioned or his memories?
Will the fact that Dad gave him a life help Chul forgive him?
Will his parents and dongsaengs having personality traits make them eligible to enter Yeolworld?

P.S. I'm totally geeking out with this possibility.

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I wonder if the writer intentionally want to sneak a PSA massage in the drama to prevent suicide because Chul's jumping scene from the bridge can be triggering.

If you lose your reason to live, don't just give up. Find a new reason. Look around you, there are people who care about you and they will be sad/devastated if you just give up like that.

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2 weeks ?!?! Really??

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Lalala, I can't hear you.

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The drama of the Olympian got pre-empted by the Olympics. Oh the irony.. ?

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I love the usernames that are being made because of this drama ?

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I've read an article yesterday that it will resume on the 17th.

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Your name!! Eeee, it makes me laugh. I don't know how I'll get through the wait--except that my brother hasn't watched W yet and I told him he'd like this one (he liked Healer, Pinocchio). So we're going to rewatch it all.

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Nice! My sister is catching up now that she's up to date on Doctors and finished Strange Things. She's getting annoyed of me asking her progress and theories but maybe the wait will bring her around to it.

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Why? Why #3? Why can't there be an option #5 - ALL OF THE ABOVE? ?

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ROFL, ikr. I would be like, uhhh, excuse me? Why are you trying to make me choose? I'll take every option!

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Why not change numbers each day of the week?

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Ooh, I like that plan. Parties on monday, day trip to Jeju on Tuesday (can you do that?), cute shopping and everyday moments on Wednesday, close my eyes and give them some privacy on Thursday... we need one more number. Run from killers and hope she doesn't disappear on Friday? Nooo, too sad!

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I have a feeling the next episode will be option 5: run from the killer

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@CC101 @Cozybooks maybe 3 days for Jeju Island, you know travel time. On his private plane ?

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I forgot
@thelady where can I decline option 5?

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Heck, I was wondering why not mix a little 3 and 4?! ?

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So everyday... hot adult romance?

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with Kang chul? where do i sign up??

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I CHOKED! LMAO You mixed 3 and 4 /really/ well! good job!

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I approve of the everyday hot romance option 3/4 combo

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There's no space in my brain to process intellectual stuff about this episode. Just give me all of the choices, Kang Chul! I hope this episode will get me through next week.

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Kang Chul, son, pls get your priorities straight - FIX DA BEDROOM DOOR

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yes if they both want option 4 they need a door that doesn't automatically open

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All this talk about number 4 makes me want to reach for my daughter's drawing tablet. The only thing stopping me is my lousy drawing skills. Not sure I would want to do number 4 with a monster of my own creation.

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Exactly, why choose, KC, you're not just an ordinary rich guy, you have more means than all the chaebols in the world combined and in manhaworld there's endless opportunities, be a little more generous and give her new choices every week, no wait ADD new options to the already existing ones. Lol

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Yes. Why not change it or improve as it goes?

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In hindsight I don't think #3 is that bad when it got her a hubby in the form of KANG CHUL. There will be plenty of opportunities to move on to the next #....

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I'm going to share the only way I know how, in sections.

4 - That's all for this week, folks.

Jk. It was all about the fashion today. What was your favorite Kang Chul outfit?
Me: for the character, that blue suit at the prison. But the checkered suit gives me life, even if ahjussi seemed a bit taken aback by it. For the actor, the orange jumper. LJS hasn't looked that adorable in a minute.

Fashion: I'm in love with the maid uniform!
YJ's skirt to get married was beautiful. But what in the world was that shirt in the end? Did they want her to keep a handcuff look? Those sleeves!

The hair tie scene. It was so cute and reminded me of DotS, which I enjoyed. But it strengthens my love of man buns. If he can do a man bun, he knows how to put up my hair. If he don't, he needs to put down the hair tie. He ain't worthy of it. (As if my hair will ever be that long, 4c struggle)

Omo, how funny was that bodyguard scene?

Serious fluff. What's your number?

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Definitely 4! LOL!

And I was thinking about how Kang Chul rocks the best suits! My favorite was the blue one when he visited Yeon-joo at the police station. The checkered one was nice too.

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I'm 1 all the way. The moment I read Cinderella I was like, nothing else matters. Lol

LJS was bringing no. 4 though. ? my Virgin ears and eyes ??

I loved the 2 white lines on the blue suit. And they looked amazing. This trend of suits with patterns can go wrong but so far, it has gone right.

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@purple cow,
Maybe because LJS just rocks any suits he's putting on. Seriously, this guy can't get wrong in any (checkered) suits. He's got this pose or certain body language that I can't exactly say which, that scream "SEXY" all the time.
LJS and his fancy red car
LJS in denim (with birds on it)
LJS in strange baggy clothes
LJS in blue suits
Blue suits with stripes
LJS in all black...
Lists go on....

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Sorry should read @purple owl.
Biyan!

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Lol, no problem on the name.

Somehow he rocked that denim/bird mess. Though if it was destroyed in the laundry I'd have no complaints. Oh, yes and his killing suit from last week ?

Do Yoon looks good in all black too.

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I don't know about the suits. I mean, I'm not very fashion aware but I generally I have liked (not really noticing=liked) the outfits in this drama. However.....that checkered suit. Ack! It hurt my eyes just to look at it.

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I'm dizzy reading all the comments so I misread yours as "I generally lick the outfits in this drama" and was nodding before I noticed the mistake.

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Lol

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Why, what's stopping you from reading "liked" as "licked", anyway? Tomaytoes, tomahtoes :D

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LOL Mary... that's giving me ideas!

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When the suit came on, my spouse said, "I like that suit!", and he meant it.

There are some pieces (like the blue shirt with that white skirt--augh) that don't work well. The checkered? Two thumbs up in our household.

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So will the checkered suit be entering a real person's closet soon?

I wouldn't pair that shirt with the skirt. But the skirt was a good starting point.

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Yessss! Prince Charming vibes in that blue suit! Swoon

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*cough cough* 4....

Love the blue suit!! Looks ah-my-zing on him. Kinda have mixed feeling on checkered suit tho. Only LJS can pull that thing out.

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I'm with you on 4... ahem...

ANY suit and LJS are daebak in my book. And now to try to get back to work, gonna be difficult for this ahjumma. Dangit!

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What the? I thought when I watched Gang-chul's checkered suit. Per article, Park Ji-young who is in charge of Lee Jong-suk's stylist said "Gang-chul's look reflects two different worlds. In webtoon, Gang-chul's fashion is to maximize the showiness different from typical Chaebul man, to fit Super rich CEO. In real world, He shows low tone style with no color, all black suit, light pink outfits to follow his emotions. LJK did workout before starting the filming, and his shoulder didn't fit, so outfits had to be specially made for him. I think they tried to match completely to cartoon hero Gang-chul who is supposed to make women's heart flutter with his 186cm height."

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Always thankful for your translations, fan!

This makes a lot of sense. Starting with the denim bird outfit, I have been very attentive to his clothing. I don't know which concept I prefer. The showy super Chaebol works for KC and suits the whimsical cartoon vibe. But the muted Yeolworld outfits are great too. I'm glad they put so much thought into differentiating the worlds.

Aw, my bae had to have his clothes created for him. They are one in the worrld, like him. ?

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Decoding Kang Chul's outfits:

Ep 2-3

KC wore a denim shirt with 3 mockingjay birds printed on it. Ironically in both episodes, KC was mocked 3 times - the attempt on his life with the truck incident, he was slapped and kissed by YJ.

Ep 3 & 5

KC wears a black shirt when he shoots YJ, he was also wearing a black shirt when he shoots OSM in the chest.

Ep 3 & 7

KC wears an oversized sweatshirt when he ends up in a scuffle with no face at his penthouse. He was also wearing an oversized sweatshirt when he encounters no face via chyron also back in his penthouse in ep 7. Both incidents had YJ in them, and in both instances she was asleep.

Ep 3 & 7

KC wore a blue suit with 2 striped prints at the cuffs when he kisses YJ in the bathroom of his penthous. He also wore a blue suit with 2 striped prints at the cuffs when he kissed YJ at the detention center in ep 7.

How's that for relevance? Love the attention to detail they give on this show. ^_^

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@yoyo wow I didnt even noticed! That's pretty awesome and clever of the production team :)

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I definitely noticed some of the fashion suits this week, too. I can't really decide between the blue or the blank and white suits (he looks so dang good in both of them), but I do love the feeling the blue suit gave their prison makeout scene. This drama has such a way of creating subtle, gorgeous imagery: her on the rooftop in the first episode, him walking across the street in the fifth, them kissing in a prison without a care in the world... I just love the imagery. Even him flanked in the background by two bodyguards after he returns home.

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Should I be worried that I instantly knew the scenes you were talking about? Probably but I'll think about that later. The opening scene for the fifth episode was breathtaking.

I think I'm going with the blue suit. It is a little easier to pretend he's not a super Chaebol. I never knew I liked patterned suits until this recent trend.

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Psh, no worries. I just means they were memorable scenes, right? I loved the opening scene for the fifth. Everything about it. Well, I love a lot of things about W.

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God, 4, ahem.

I also liked the blue suit because 1) his hair made him look so suave 2) he is so damn model-esque and 3) that kiss. But also, I love seeing LJS in comfy home gear with the baggy sweaters because HIS SHOULDERS kyaaa.

HHJ in the outfit getting out of prison was sooo pretty. She's got damn nice proportions too, love seeing her character dressed up once in a while haha.

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I actually really liked the skirt she changed into after her shower. I liked the "I'm getting married" outfit too--I'm just glad she has sensible clothes, unlike some other dramas. There was a sweater in KMHM that gave me nightmares.

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I'm glad HHJ has clothes that a woman would actual pick out and wear. Practical and heroines rarely go together.

Her "getting married" outfit was nice. I wouldn't have done that shirt but the skirt was modest and bridal. Her skirt after the shower was cute. I was just distracted by the sleeves on the shirt. So huge.

Trying to focus on the skirt is valid reason to finish my rewatch right? ?

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You know how we always say "it could be worse" while not actually thinking there's anything worse?

Well:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Korea-Men-Slim-Casual-Suits-2016-Design-Milk-Cow-Horsehair-Singer-Clothing-Set-Nightclub-Prom-Dress/32623598532.html?s=p

I'm out. If this is fashion, I happily do not understand it.

P.S. why do I feel like LJS could change my mind?

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Omo, I haven't seen these in a while. I need to look though my LJS topics on social media.

Idk why but as a sweater it's cute. The idea of a full suit makes me shudder.

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The cow horsehair image made me snortle at 4am! Lol!
LJS looks hot in the polka dots though, maybe it's his actions.. *hypnotised*

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Wasn't he a model before he started acting? If anyone could make that cow suit tolerable it could be him...

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I felt so much for KC when he was asking about the right YJ had to override his chosen path. Suicide is a deep, twisting knife. Nothing said or done is quite right.

What right does YJ have to disregard that? Will she make up for it by giving him a goal, a purpose in a world he finds worthless?

Because for once the person doesn't find their existence too much. It's not internal, it's external. What external motivations can she come up with? Will she even have time to show him and prove her right to dictate his life?

Or will we be fighting the unknown?

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Me too! I completely understood KC's sentiment about YJ saving him and to what? continue with a sequel? a romance? It's more complicated than that and I was quite annoyed at YJ being all smiley. The good thing about him being alive is now he knows that /there is/ a killer. He gave up believing Dad's words, but now the killer communicated with him so he can continue what he started in uncovering the mystery of his family's death.

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Yes, so he does now have a goal at least. The goal is similar to revenget but not quite the same. While uncovering the mystery, Chul will have to find something he values that had meaning. Otherwise, these feelings will creep back up again.

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Me three! I was also really annoyed at YJ's lighthearted tone here. She should have realised how he was going to take it - she can do whatever she likes with his life - who's going to stand for that, whether man or woman?

I really hope that the writer has figured out how she's going to manage their relationship. It has to be so that neither of them has unfair advantage over the other - although, I guess one could argue that loving someone gives that loved person an advantage already. I mean, if YJ were mean-spirited and chose to use her 'power' as his creator, she could threaten to change KC's words/ life every time he upset her; presently, they have a really badly skewed power dynamic in their relationship.

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To me, YJ's light-hearted tone during the bus scene was 100% all pretense because she was well aware of KC's tormented state of mind (the boy had just tried to kill himself) and was trying to nudge him away from dark thoughts. She was trying to set the tone for a hopeful future where KC would find a new purpose in life and never contemplate suicide again.

Also, I don't agree that KC and YJ's power dynamic is skewed. Sure, YJ can draw him--but only because KC allows it. Remember, KC's fate after he jumped couldn't be changed by Dad, or by Dad's assistant, or by anyone else--only by YJ. Not to mention, even before, KC had proven that he has a will of his own and will only allow story developments that make sense to him and that he accepts. Last but not least, KC can literally pull YJ into his world. So if anything, it could be argued that it's KC who has the most power in that relationship--especially given YJ's tendency to give all of herself when her heart is engaged; she's such a softie. (Personally, I believe that they both have power and that neither can completely control the other.)

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@shl
I think she was prepared for the way he would take it, but not the intensity. If that makes sense.

I agree that love is an advantage. At least it's one that they both have. I think that YJ's ability to control KC will fade as his desire for life increases.

@Adnana
I agree about why she was light-hearted. It just stung a bit in contrast to how Chul was feeling.

Personally, I don't think the best way to talk someone down from suicide is telling them what life they can lead. In my experience, that's already on their mind and deepens the despair. KC is falling in love with her but doesn't know what her motivation is or if it's possible to have a life with her. A life of happiness.

Fair enough about KC allowing her to draw him. I hadn't thought of it that way. I think both parties has power but are considerate of each other so power won't be abuse intentionally *can't blame people for accidents until they become repeated and unapologetic*

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KC was totally justified in his anger at YJ- no matter how you looked at the situation- it did seem like YJ was merely playing his Ken to her Barbie.. and her light-hearted attitude even annoyed me

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Am I the only one who understood her attitude?

His anger was completely justified and its true she did not consider his feelings when she saved him. On whether he wants to be saved.

She is all happy for him to be alive and well. And her relief is etched on her face. I felt it like she was giving him a distraction from the existential crisis she knows he is going through.
Her words on finding new purpose to live. Isnt it true of all suicide attempts?

It was a conflict they needed to have and every word KC said makes sense. But I understand her as well. She did what she felt is best from her love for him.

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I understand both of their reason,
it actually down to kang chul lingering feeling and the no face desire that pull yeon joo back, she already move on and continue her life but he calls her,

YJ wouldn't save him if she didn't saw him freeze in the water so even if YJ at based on her own decision, she can't ignore kang chul either

so yeah, it can be look selfish in YJ decision but she has a valid reason to let him lived after saw him forzen inside the river.

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Excellent way to describe both parties. Nice!

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@Divyrus I understood YJ's behavior and feelings. I was simply saying how much I felt for KC in that scene.

I was relieved to see him alive and it would have been written all over my face (because I don't have a poker face).
I think you pointed out my issue perfectly. Thank you. "a distraction from the existential crisis"
I don't think he needed a distraction (or he did, I'm not the writer). I think confronting it head on was in his best interest. If she had apologized on the bus instead of finishing his question about how he was alive. Or if she told him that she had spent time trying to forget him. She just needed to acknowledge his feelings. I think that is the whole "creator plaything" struggle he is having. Dad didn't allow him to have feelings or an opinion on his life and now neither is Yeon Joo.

On real life suicide attempts, I have the same stand. Address it, don't ignore it. Worry about a new purpose after facing the issue. That's what has helped in my experience. However, it may not work for all people.

Obviously it's a complex topic and doesn't have 1 right answer. The best motivation is what you said about YJ. Doing what one thinks is best out of love.

I love that this show is brining about this discussion. It's real without being personal.

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nah I'm with you Divy, she was obviously playing up the peppiness in an (ill advised lol) attempt to cheer him up. Unforunately he misread her intention in the worst way, at least until she clarified herself. (altho his convo with the ahjusshi friend makes it clear he's still wrestling with suicidal thoughts. but that at least he now wants to TRY to live.)
I dont get how people really assumed she was that clueless but she's not a therapist so yeah her attempts weren't the best, but they were genuine/sincere not born of her being careless of his emotional state.

and yeah she is trying to give him a new purpose, and she's right too, making revenge your SOLE purpose in life is terrible and sad. the problem is KC is left without closure now. trapped in a fake world, and feeling utterly powerless (despite all the power he has in that world, ironically enough). Felt so bad for him, but I think YJ is gonna do everything in her power to help him. She's already saved his life 3 times now! and more importantly, her saving him is also because she sees him as real. She would never be idle if she saw a human try to kill themselves. (she is a doctor afterall!). So its not like if it wasnt KC she'd be like "welp" and do nothing at all. She just happened to go the extra mile for him (cuz of the truly bizarre circumstances of his death). and yeah she loves him. i'd argue she always did on some level, it was just a love that changed in shape and size over time.

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While I agree with you and totally understand KC's anger but in YJ's defense she didn't choose to save him all by herself, two months have passed and she was trying to move on but it was him (or his subconsciousness) who pulled her into the Han river. So maybe he didn't want to really die?

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Yes, that's why I was not fully annoyed at YJ because KC did not seem to really want to die. He probably thought he wanted to, but a part of him did not want to. It was somehow validated when she returned and he said he was afraid of not seeing her again.

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This.
And why does everyone keep forgetting that KC, basically, allowed YJ to draw him? Dad couldn't, and his assistant couldn't, and everyone else (fanfiction) couldn't. Only YJ.
He might not have known it consciously, but KC wanted to be saved--by YJ.

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I want to state clearly. I never had anything against YJ. I was commenting on my KC feels in that moment. I wasn't trying to make it a versus matter. That said:

@angieya thank you for the point about her not choosing to save her by herself. It would have been one thing if she drew him the same week. But it was a long time. And it seems he faked out to her. How can anyone, especially a doctor, not answer?

@Celine I agree that part of him didn't want to die and that it was proven when he said he was afraid of never seeing her again. That's a rather clear thought in the midst of suicidal ideation.

@Adnana I didn't forget that YJ was the only one allowed to draw him. I thought that had more to do with her basic creator position but good point that it could have been KC allowing her to. Did people try fanfiction drawing? Would that have the same affect seeing as the mass public doesn't know he is real? Even if they drew him, it would be for themselves without the power YJ has.

Overall, I agree that it was KC who asked for YJ to save him. He's the one who wouldn't let her forget him for 2 months. It's just he didn't know that at the point where he was upset. And I think it wouldn't have beenstrange if that was the first thing she said to him. I know I'd be relieved but still like "I'm not playing you like my fsthet. I wanted to forget you but something, I don't know if it was you, keeping calling to me. And you were in a strange not dead not alive state."

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even if he really DID want to die, why would she let him? I mean irl, if u see a person trying to kill themselves, would you really be like "i guess that's just their decision~". i mean yeah KC isnt a "real" person but that's the point tho. YJ sees him as real, so she acts accordingly. but ofc she loves him too so she goes the extra mile beyond just being a compassionate human.

but yeah, i think he DID want to die but he also missed her. he admitted as much before he kissed her. he obv was thinking of her, (and she of him) at around the same time she got pulled into the water. almost his subconscious way of saying "save me". (plus remember he thought he'd killed her father when he jumped off the bridge which is ofc not the case!)

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I understood where KC was coming from in that argument, but I still felt more for YJ.

KC being angry was to be expected (I wouldn't have been surprised by it like YJ) and was understandable because of his recent struggle to prove himself and OSM that he had free will; because he's desperate to have freedom over his actions and his life and being denied the death he was seeking was like being told he didn't really have power over his life. It's also understandable because he just didn't know how to keep on living, and the prospect of living in a world created for entertainment was not too good. But I don't think it was justified.

In the real world too, people who want to commit suicide want to die, but it's not because they want to that people who know them are just going to sit and watch. By wanting to have free will, by being human (and no longer just a webtoon character, an artistic creation), he no longer has the leeway of being treated as an object that can just cease to exist whenever; he must be treated like a human being too, one who's life is precious and must be protected. If YJ didn't like him and she had still tried her best to save him, I still would have thought she was more justified.

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thank you for this! I was surprised more people didnt say the same thing as you. I was just writing upthread that, if KC is a real person (as he wants to be) then her just letting him kill himself is in no way the right thing to do. he was so angry (and dealing with so much trauma) he didnt realize that by going through so much effort to save (and find) him, she was doing what he wanted most; treating him as a real living breathing human. she def sees him as such, but he no longer is able to see himself as such. its obv done a number on him, and he's not completely over it (hence why he told ahjusshi friend that he still feels like dying) but having someone love him so sincerely as YJ, is clearly helping at least. unfortunately in real life too, having free will doesnt mean it will always be respected. (even tho she def did the humane thing here)

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I agree that he's having an emotional existential crisis, and I'm glad he got angry/talked it out with her--but I still agree with what YJ did, webtoon or no. The way I see it the rest of the world read a webtoon and a character died--but she watched as her friend/crush committed suicide. She realizes he's not dead and that she has the power to stop him. What person wouldn't pull a friend away from that ledge?

She didn't draw him with the intent to take away free will, but I don't think she considered it too much either. So I'm glad she understands his position a bit more now. Overall I'm just happy with the way the scene played out. She did the right thing (in my eyes) by saving him, still obtained the growth she needed, and KC worked through his "I'm a webtoon" crisis a bit more. And we got a few smokin' kisses out of it to boot.

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Yes! You don't just let a real person commit suicide if u can stop them. esp if its someone u care about! He was obviously angry and traumatized af, so it makes sense he's not thinking about taht when he confronts her. he's reading her actions in the most cynical way. and after what her own dad told him, who can blame him really? But YJ did absolutely nothing wrong. I'm glad he accepted that fairly quickly. Even if he's definitely not over his trauma (and suicidal thoughts).

I hope he finds out at some point that she's cared about him for a long time. and that she is his true creator (and not some alcoholic old guy as KC said lol) ofc he might not be thrilled with that revelation either but its gotta be better than the alternative!

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Definitely. It's understandably hard on his part to be saved in that way, but there's nothing wrong with the saving itself. And I think they did a great job of showing that he really isn't over it completely yet (he's found a "small" reason for living, and he's worried she'll leave him). But he's definitely growing, taking the chance and trying out a relationship anyway.

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me 4!! i rewatched the scene just to feel it again... the pain Kang chul felt... huhu...

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I thought it was an oversight that she doesn't tell him that she was pulled into his world again first - that she was in the river with him and not by her choice. I actually kind of would have liked to see that happen to her a couple more times before she managed to get it right and get back into his world.

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I love the fact that this topic is being discussed so openly and intellectually. I just want to state clearly there was again YJ in my original comment. I was simply feeling for KC.

As someone who has suffered from suicidal ideation since age 3 (most likely before but that's the first complete plan I remember) and someone who has had family members (yes more than one) attempt suicide, thankfully not succeeding, I appreciate the fact that they are showing both sides.

I took this episode and the others that mentioned his previous attempt as welcomed PSAs. I understood YJ's reaction. I know she's just an average human. She didn't know how badly he would take it. (I wasn't surprised he took it that bad but I wouldn't have been bothered if his reaction was lighter.) I still believe that the simple fact of 2 months having passed would have helped (did KC know that without her saying?)

The thing about growing up with suicidal ideation and the potential for myself or my family to succeed, is I'm sensitive to the topic. I think it was well handled in episode, though that's not how I would handle it in real life. I've appreciated the discussion thus far. I just wanted to clear up any misunderstanding about how I felt about YJ or suicide attempts in real life.

I'm not trying to cop out or play the sympathy card. I wanted to provide some background for my comment. I'm sorry I didn't include it all before. I'm not shy about my mental health issues. I just hadn't thought out how it could come across. I forgot that people wouldn't read with the context of it wasn't provided. And I was tured, lol.

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Boo. The bold was supposed to be on the word, clearly. Sorry, admins! Thank you.

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*Tired

Wow

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I was at this point (bodyguard visiting prison) in my second watch and I just read it in the recap.

Manhworld - is it possible it is becoming more real to YJ because she is fall into Manhworld more? She is a part of the story.

Previously, her life fast-forwarded when she was waiting for KC. Her watch and everything, we remember. But now, she can "get acquainted with KC" and then live life and then go to sleep and then see bodyguard. Is that because everthing applies to KC somehow?

But then why does the time seem to pass normally while she's not with him or anone related to him? Why does she need a full night's sleep? What are the other characters lives like if KC isn't in a hour/day/week/month?

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What episode did she narrate that she'd already become the heroine? Was it before or after the bit where time jumped and three months passed all at once? Because I think if she's the heroine her scenes are just as important as Chul's. You get that a lot in webtoons, where it'll follow another important character for a while.

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