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W–Two Worlds: Episode 9

Maybe up is down, and down is up. And I could’ve sworn that yesterday happened already, but now I’m not so sure. I didn’t used to think those rules of the universe were arbitrary, but who’s to say anymore? I guess if this were any other drama, I might say there were new twists in every episode, except when you create a world (or two) where literally anything can happen, do you even call them twists anymore? Crazy things happen, and that’s just a day that ends in “Y” around here.

 

 
EPISODE 9 RECAP

We already saw this, but in case you wanted to relive that stabbing pain in your heart: Kang Chul makes Yeon-joo promise to go back to her world and draw him waking up from a dream, having forgotten everything that’s happened since he met her, effectively resetting the manhwa world. He jumps off the roof in order to send her back.

Meanwhile, No-Face Killer tracks Dad all the way to his flight to New Zealand, first appearing in voice and words only, before suddenly materializing in the restroom with his hands over Dad’s mouth to cover his screams.

No-Face has teleported here to confront his creator about who he is, and knocks Dad around in the tiny stall until he has him in a stranglehold. He growls, “You betrayed me. Why don’t you keep your promises? You said you’d find me. Who am I? Who am I? Give me my face!” It’s somehow deadly serious and hilariously comical at the same time.

The flight attendant knocks repeatedly when she hears the scuffle, and then finally the noises subside and the door clicks open… Oh, there’s Dad! He’s alone, but he looks badly shaken up.

Yeon-joo reappears in her world and hurriedly draws Kang Chul waking up from his dream, and she breaks down in tears once it’s done. Kang Chul’s timeline resets to him waking up in the hospital after his stabbing incident, and he stirs awake with tears in his eyes.

Yeon-joo narrates that resetting the manhwa worked—No-Face disappeared from her world, though he left three victims in his wake. Police officers clean up the murder scenes, of the two bicyclists on the bridge and the assistant at Dad’s publishing house.

Su-bong flails and pleads for Yeon-joo’s mom to drive them away from Dad’s workshop, but Mom refuses to go anywhere without finding Yeon-joo first, and runs off to look for her. Su-bong starts out trying to call out politely, “Mother! Mother!” and eventually just starts screaming “MOM!” like she’s his mom. It’s the cutest thing. He’s shocked when Mom finds Yeon-joo drenched in sweat and passed out in the passenger seat of his car.

In the manhwa world, Kang Chul is drenched in sweat too, and So-hee sits by his bedside all night. Yeon-joo narrates that all the main characters in Chul’s world were saved from disappearing.

Dad flies straight back to Korea and reads the latest issue of the webtoon with a dark expression, especially when he sees the frame of Yeon-joo with a bullet hole in her forehead.

Dad shows up at Mom’s place unannounced to see Yeon-joo, who’s just been brought home from the emergency room and is sleeping in her bed. Mom says she doesn’t understand what Yeon-joo was doing drawing in Su-bong’s car for hours until she passed out.

That seems to break Dad’s heart even more, and he touches Yeon-joo’s forehead tenderly and holds her hand. He isn’t happy when he notices the wedding ring on her finger, though it does remind him of Kang Chul and the frame he saw in the webtoon of Chul asking her to pass a flash drive along to her father.

Dad finds the flash drive in Yeon-joo’s pocket and pops it into his phone, where he finds a letter addressed to him. We see Kang Chul write it back when Yeon-joo was crying after seeing So-hee almost vanish.

Chul writes that he heard Dad was alive, but he has no plans to apologize for shooting him: “Because I don’t have the right to be forgiven, but you don’t have the right to forgive me either.” Dad smirks and calls him arrogant.

Chul says he’s writing because they have work left to do: “I’m going to accept the wretched fate you gave me, so you must do your work as well. Stop running away. Not for me, but for your daughter—you will be able to do it this time. W’s happy ending…” Dad gazes over at Yeon-joo, deep in thought over Chul’s proposal.

Hours later, Yeon-joo stirs awake and finds Mom sleeping on the floor. Mom says that Dad came home and stopped by to see her, and Yeon-joo goes out to the living room to call him, but then thinks better of it because it’s five in the morning.

Suddenly her living room turns into Kang Chul’s hospital room, and Yeon-joo is standing just a few feet away from Chul while he sleeps. What the…? Is this real? Is she back in the manhwa world?

She can hardly believe it and approaches his bed slowly, lifting a trembling hand to touch his face. But before she can make contact, she’s back in her living room, back to muted colors in the blink of an eye, like nothing ever happened. Huh? Is he still pulling her into his world by thinking of her? But he doesn’t know her! What is happening?

As tears trickle down her face, Yeon-joo narrates in voiceover that for a while, she must’ve lingered in Chul’s subconscious dreams, because she was able to see him a few more times, but just for brief moments.

Another time, she disappears from her car and appears back in Chul’s hospital, just long enough to catch a glimpse of him from the hallway as a nurse enters his room. He glances in her direction for a second, but then the door closes and she’s back in her world, crying. Oh this is just MEAN is what this is. Poor Yeon-joo!

She’s so distracted at work that Professor Crazy Dog has to remind her to put a cap on before surgery and take her ring off. Seok-bum teases her for getting married while they weren’t looking, and Crazy Dog says all it took was one blind date with his friend for him to know that Yeon-joo would die old and alone with cats.

As she pries her wedding ring off, Yeon-joo narrates that the third time she saw Kang Chul, it was one week later for her, and two months later in his world. She drops her ring and chases it along the ground, not realizing that she’s been transported to the manhwa world until the ring quite literally leads her straight into Kang Chul.

The ring rolls into Chul’s shoe and Yeon-joo rams right into him head-first. He smiles pleasantly and apologizes, while she looks at him like she’s seen a ghost. He picks up the ring and says it’s pretty as he puts it in her hand, and she strains not to cry. Ugh, this is too painful.

Chul gets a call and nods goodbye, and Do-yoon greets him by the door. They look happy and carefree, and Do-yoon spots Yeon-joo looking at Chul with such an ardent look in her eyes that he asks if she isn’t a broken-hearted ex-girlfriend. Chul says he’s never seen her before, and glances at her curiously one last time before leaving.

Once he’s gone, Yeon-joo closes her fingers around her ring and says in voiceover, “Just as I drew it, Kang Chul forgot everything.” She finally bursts into loud, wailing sobs and returns to her world, and Seok-bum and Crazy Dog run out when they hear her crying.

Yeon-joo narrates that as Kang Chul recovered and became busy again, he stopped dreaming altogether, “And he forgot me forever. The Kang Chul who felt endlessly hopeless, lost his way, and tried to find his will to live in love… was gone.”

In the manhwa world, Chul goes right back to chasing down criminals on his way out of the hospital, and Yeon-joo narrates that he went back to the Kang Chul everyone knew before: “Always strong, never discouraged—our hero.”

Apparently Su-bong spent the intervening time becoming a mountain man, because he stands outside Dad’s gate with a scruffy beard, holding his drawing case and pacing back and forth nervously. He looks like he’s about to run away, but in the end he rings the doorbell.

Dad is back to drinking and drawing, and Su-bong fidgets in his presence, saying that the rest of the team will be here in a few days because Dad called them back to work so suddenly. Dad says he can finish W with just Su-bong, but Su-bong says he was actually on his way to his hometown, having decided to quit drawing because he’s not sure why manhwa work should require that he put his life in danger. He says he’s tried church and temple, and even put a talisman on his computer, heh.

Dad ignores Su-bong’s entire speech and says they’re going to finish W by giving it a happy ending, one where Kang Chul catches the killer and punishes him, thereby ridding them of No-Face for good. Su-bong asks if they’re really going to kill the killer, and Dad has zero qualms about killing a man who murdered three people in the real world and tried to kill Yeon-joo. “Even if he’s a murderer, I gave birth to him, so I have to take care of him by my hand,” Dad says.

Dad thinks back to Kang Chul’s letter, where he’d outlined the ways to get rid of No-Face once and for all: Chul instructed Dad to give No-Face an identity, so that he’d stop being a phantom and become a flesh-and-blood person that Chul could catch. He included on the flash drive all of the case files from his crime show W, and said that Dad had to find the killer’s identity outside of the suspects in these files, so that Chul could accept it logically.

In the present, Dad plops the stack of case files on Su-bong’s desk and tells him to read every page, because they have to be meticulous about framing their killer in order to avoid raising Kang Chul’s suspicion that this is being retconned. Dad: “If Kang Chul suspects, it starts again… that damned curse.”

Su-bong asks how they’re supposed to trap a killer when they’ve created his crimes to be perfect, without creating plot holes in the process. This is so funny, this meta discussion. Dad says that plot holes are inevitable, which is why they have to give the killer an identity that Kang Chul will accept despite any logic flaws.

Dad says he’s decided on the killer’s face, and throws his sketchbook on the desk. He says that this is the only person that Kang Chul would accept as the culprit, and Su-bong’s jaw drops when he opens the book.

In the manhwa world, Chul gets an excited call from Ajusshi, who says they’ve finally caught a lead on the killer, who showed up on the black-box camera of a delivery truck that happened to be parked at the hotel as the killer was leaving.

As Chul rushes to the station, we cut to the killer’s dumpy apartment, where he’s got his black hooded assassin outfit hanging up, and an old wedding photo on the wall. He’s in the shower, but we can’t see his face because of the foggy mirror.

Chul waits on pins and needles as Ajusshi cues up the black-box footage, and then he stops the video as a man in a hoodie skulks outside the hotel lobby. OMO, it’s Dad!!

Cut to: The killer’s apartment, where he slowly and creepily wipes his hand across the bathroom mirror, revealing his face. It’s really really Dad.

Back in the real world, Su-bong stammers incoherently, while Dad confirms that he gave the killer his own face, because it’s the only one that Kang Chul wouldn’t question. He thinks back to the moment he stabbed Chul on the roof, and says that he’s the only suspect Chul has laid eyes on.

Chul confirms that this is the man who stabbed him on the roof, though he wonders how the killer avoided all the other CCTV cameras and happened to be caught here. Do-yoon says they should just be grateful they found this camera, and Ajusshi says they should broadcast the killer’s face on TV tonight.

In Yeon-joo’s world, Crazy Dog skips down the hall and bursts into her office to declare the return of Oh Sung-moo the Great. He says that W is back to its original glory, ever since the end of that ridiculous, childish, stupid loveline with Oh Yeon-joo. HA.

Crazy Dog gets all choked up as he talks about how it broke his heart to see W fall apart in recent months, but he says that Yeon-joo’s father has finally seen the light and made everything right again by turning it into a dream.

He pumps his fists wildly in the air and says that Kang Chul can catch the killer and get together with So-hee, and Yeon-joo just smiles weakly. To rub salt in the wound, Crazy Dog does a little cheer on his way out: “Kang Chul likes Yoon So-hee and hates Oh Yeon-joo!”

He turns back to ask why the killer looks like Yeon-joo’s dad, which is news to her. Crazy Dog decides that it’s probably her father’s Hitchcockian stamp to put himself in the manhwa, and nearly pees his pants having a fanboy squee about it, complete with W-shaped hand-sign.

Yeon-joo goes straight to her computer to read the webtoon, and calls Su-bong to ask about Dad. Su-bong tells her that Dad is planning to give W a happy ending over the course of four episodes, and the plan is to have the killer caught using Chul’s crime show.

We see it play out as Su-bong describes how it’ll go, with Killer-Dad’s face broadcast on TV in Chul’s world, and caught by the police soon after. They’ve decided that the killer’s name is Han Sang-hoon, and he was Chul’s father’s teammate back in their sports shooting days. He has a complex about Chul’s father and a lot of psychological issues, and the police find mountains of evidence in his apartment, from guns, to knives, to bloody clothes. Isn’t this too easy? This isn’t going to sit well with Kang Chul.

The detective lets Chul speak to the killer in person, and Killer-Dad says that he only intended to murder Chul’s father, but he ended up killing the whole family just because they were there. He says he expected to be caught right away, and was so tired of waiting for Kang Chul to find him that he called him to the roof that night to stab him.

Chul’s face twitches in rage, and he charges at Killer-Dad and throws him on the ground, punching him him over and over until Do-yoon runs in to stop them.

Su-bong says that isn’t the end though, because Dad said that the killer would have to be killed inside the manhwa world to be gone for good. He knew that Kang Chul couldn’t kill him, since revenge-murder isn’t a happy ending, so Dad had decided that evil should kill evil.

Back in the manhwa world, Assemblyman Han has a conniption over the killer being caught, because he was so sure that Kang Chul was guilty all this time. Assemblyman Han was being groomed to become the next president, but because of losing against Kang Chul over this case, he’s told to step down from the race and just accept defeat.

He won’t, of course, and devises a plan to kill Killer-Dad by pushing him out of a police station window to make it look like a suicide. Killer-Dad meets his bloody end that way, and the detectives find a planted suicide note in his hand, claiming to have made a false confession under Kang Chul’s coercion.

But all that scheming backfires on Assemblyman Han, because his henchman is caught by Chul’s crime show crew, and he’s named on national television as the mastermind. He’s arrested and thrown in jail, giving everyone the ending they wanted.

Su-bong asks what Yeon-joo thinks of it, and she says that people will be happy. She hesitates and then asks how the very last scene will go, and Su-bong says gingerly that the loveline will have to be resolved. Yeon-joo asks if Chul is going to marry So-hee, and Su-bong says no, it won’t go that far.

The planned ending plays out in Chul’s world: With the killer dead and Assemblyman Han behind bars, the case is put to rest and Chul finds a letter on his desk from So-hee, congratulating him and telling him how happy she is, as his longtime friend who’s been cheering him on.

Chul calls to find out where So-hee is and runs to her in the street. They meet in the middle of a crosswalk, just like a drama ending, and he reaches over to pet her on the head (noooo, that’s his move for Yeon-joo!). They exchange sweet smiles, and Su-bong says that it’ll end like that, with the general feeling that things will work out for them.

Yeon-joo listens quietly and finally lets out a long sigh, and Su-bong chides her for taking too long to answer because he thought she poofed away again. She admits to feeling empty, because no one in that world remembers her, and no one in her world knows what she went through. She regrets not having taken a single photograph, and tells Su-bong that she did something about it last night.

Yeon-joo flashes back to the night before, when she’d stopped in front of a bookstore window that was plastered with Kang Chul’s face. She bought the issues of W that included her storyline, and at home she cut out all of the big moments in her love story with Chul, from the kisses to the big revelations, to the sweet everyday romance that they shared.

One by one she taped them to her window, and gazed at the only pictures she had to remember him by. Mom came in and nagged her for doing something so childish and told her to replace them with photos of a real boyfriend, and Yeon-joo cried quietly by herself.

Back in the present, she tamps down her emotions and goes to her bunk with a volume of W in hand. She stares at the cover—of Kang Chul bleeding on the rooftop—and talks to Chul as if he’s there.

She asks how he’s doing lately, and admits that she’s not so great. The tears are just about to come when Seok-bum interrupts to ask about dinner, and Yeon-joo covers her face with the book like she wants to sleep, but under the pages, the tears trickle down her chin.

Suddenly the PA system calls all doctors on hand to deal with an emergency, and as Yeon-joo leaves her office, she doesn’t seem to notice that all the signs say Hankook Sungjin Hospital—the one in the manhwa world.

She rides the elevator down with a group of doctors who say there was mass-shooting at a broadcast station, and she’s shocked to see So-hee and Do-yoon running past her. Yeon-joo realizes she’s back in Chul’s world, and she stops in front of a TV, where a reporter says that there was a shooting on the stage of crime show W, and Kang Chul is among the victims. This is not the planned ending!

Yeon-joo runs into the emergency room, which is a madhouse of activity. She walks around in a daze looking for Kang Chul, when someone grabs her arm and whirls her around. It’s Chul! Oh phew, he’s fine.

Chul pulls her over to a woman who’s been shot in the leg, but all Yeon-joo can do is stare at him numbly. He looks at the name on her lab coat and calls her Oh Yeon-joo, finally yelling just to snap her out of it so she’ll treat the bleeding lady.

Yeon-joo checks the bullet wound and says she’ll need surgery but she’ll be okay, and Chul apologizes for yelling at her earlier. She asks if he isn’t hurt, mentioning the news report, and he says they were mistaken.

He looks at the ring that she’s now wearing on a chain around her neck, and says he remembers her. Yeon-joo’s eyes widen at that, but he meant from the other day, when she ran into him while chasing her runaway ring.

She looks at him so longingly that he asks her why she keeps looking at him that way, and Yeon-joo sniffles back tears and says, “Because I don’t know why I’m here.” Chul is pulled away when So-hee runs over to tell him that Ajusshi has gone into surgery.

Su-bong comes back to the workshop with groceries, and knocks on Dad’s door to call him to dinner. Dad is hunched over at his desk and doesn’t respond at all. Crap, he’s not… dead, is he?

Su-bong tries again, but this time a chyron appears above Dad along with a voiceover in No-Face’s voice: “Is that Su-bong…?” Dad lifts his head, and AAACK—HE HAS NO FACE!

OH SHIT. That scared my pants off. Su-bong rubs his eyes thinking he’s hallucinating, but Dad keeps speaking to him via chyron: “Su-bong, it’s me. Su-bong-ah, my face is gone.” Ohmygod, ohmygod. Su-bong falls over, screaming.

Dad’s face looks like his eyes, nose, and mouth have been burned and scarred over, and it’s not really helping that he’s ambling over towards Su-bong like a zombie.

Su-bong screeaaams bloody murder, but it seems like it’s really Dad, because he keeps asking for Su-bong to save him: “He took my face. Where is my face?” But Su-bong actually faints from fear before Dad can get another word in. Holy crap.

Suddenly Dad’s tablet lights up, and this is so twisted—his own voice orders him to sit down at his desk.

Rewind to one hour ago: In the manhwa world, crime show W revealed the killer’s face on national television, just like Dad and Su-bong had planned. But what followed was a deviation…

As soon as the show host described the killer’s physical features, he went down with a gunshot to the forehead. More shots were fired and most of the crew was gunned down, including Ajusshi. Chul and Do-yoon were watching from the editing bay, and they watched in horror as Killer-Dad stepped onto the stage and took a microphone before calling out, “Kang Chul!”

Killer-Dad said he came to show Kang Chul his face, because he’d been waiting a long time and had no way to reveal himself before this. He stretched his arms out wide and said, “This is me! How do you like my face? I’m pleased with it.” He cackled and suggested they meet often and shot the cameras one by one.

And then when he was ready to escape, a webtoon portal just rendered itself in his path, and Killer-Dad stepped right into it and vanished into thin air. Is that how he’s been teleporting?

In the present, Yeon-joo sees her father’s face on the killer laughing maniacally into the camera, and realizes that things are very, very wrong.

 
COMMENTS

Well that’s going to give me nightmares for a week. This is the consequence of giving No-Face a face? He takes it from you? I really think that should’ve been in the fine print, because what in the hell is Dad going to do now, with the killer wearing his face and no means to draw himself out of this? (And it only occurred to me when I saw Dad that No-Face had to speak via chyron before because he had no mouth! And here I was thinking he was just being extra creepy.) Did the killer take Dad’s face as revenge for his ten years of amorphous existence, or was this an inevitable consequence of Dad choosing to draw the killer in his image?

There’s just something so dysfunctional about the creator-god making his creation in his image in order to kill it, only to have the creation steal his identity and take control. Is that Dad’s fault for being a thoughtless writer and creating a monster? Or is it the monster’s fault if he’s become sentient? Also, so much for making him a normal human by giving him a face, because he’s still teleporting and self-aware and rewriting the manhwa! And now we’ve handicapped the only hero who could stop him by re-rewriting the manhwa, because he forgot he had the power to do that! We are all in such deep water right now.

But what this story turn points to is the fact that Kang Chul can’t be the proper hero without his free will. He thought that giving up his self-awareness and falling in line with his predetermined fate was the right way to continue being the hero of his story, but that’s actually impossible if the villain of his world has free will. Because then the bad guy will rewrite the story however he pleases, and Chul will be useless against him if he doesn’t know that he’s a manhwa character who can manipulate his own reality. I don’t know why the killer survived the reset with his self-awareness intact when Kang Chul didn’t, but it certainly worked to make me feel completely defenseless and backed into a corner, I’ll give them that.

On the upside, this is Yeon-joo’s turn to be the hero, because right now she’s the only one who can draw the manhwa differently, or get Chul to break the fourth wall again. Is it too late to undo the reset? Could she maybe give Kang Chul some superpowers to even the score with the teleporting face-thief? Ooh, maybe she’s back to being invincible in the manhwa world if she’s no longer a main character? I doubt it, but that would come in handy right about now.

And I love the angst that we’re getting in their love story, but it’s kind of killing me the way she gets yanked back in by his subconscious thoughts while he has no idea that he’s torturing her with his pleasant-but-impersonal stares. I know, it’s the emotional crux of their separation for her to carry that burden alone, but when I saw her taping up manhwa pages to serve as the only mementos she had of their relationship, I wanted her to go back to the manhwa world and put everything back the way it was, even if meant the total destruction of everything. Maybe we’re just supposed to burn that world to the ground and save your love, huh? Did you ever think of that?

 
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No Face Oh Seong Moo scared the hell out of me! Like my jaw literally dropped! It was scarier than no face culprit. I’d exactly be like Soo Bong if put in his situation. So the culprit’s purpose is still the same except he has a face and identity now. But I guess because the face and identity wasn’t originally made - it was a copy of someone (Mr. Oh), it sucked the identity and face of him to be his literally. The only way for that to be solved is if Yeon Joo will go back to her world and draw. But I wonder can she erased something that’s already made? Can she change the culprit’s identity to save her father? But how? Especially she’s stuck in the comic world with no identity again and not knowing what’s happening to her dad on the real world. I hope Soo Bong can communicate to Yeon Joo through drawing or whatever. So another problem is how she’ll get back. I feel like Kang Chul’s emotions still count as the rule. The interesting thing is how she’s gonna change his emotions related to her. Will she repeat the same moves she did last time? Would it fuel their forgotten love story? Kang Chul completely awakened due to his discovery of Oh Yeon Joo but that wasn’t the case for the culprit. He was a different awakening in which we don’t know the reason. I feel like stealing Mr. Oh’s identity and face completely stole everything he knew about the comic. Now the culprit knows everything like his world is a comic.
Before she’s dragged because Kang Chul keeps thinking of her. Now, it’s because she’s a part of the story. She’s a character in the story since their story was published in the comic, the comic world only didn’t remember her now but it’s still a part of the W comic her world is reading.
I can’t with this drama… tooooo UNPREDICTABLE!!! Like who expected Mr. Oh to draw himself as the criminal and him becoming no face?! Cause I didn’t expect that at all!

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Am I the only one who sees the flaw in resetting the main characters memory, while the villain essentially has the upper hand by still keeping all of his ?! Seriously, this is BAD!!

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when they resetting, they didn't reset the main villain who already at understandings phase of his existence,
like the malware that is not disappear after you restart a computer because it already reach the destination and multiplying itself

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I think the reason why the killer didn't forget anything was because he was outside the manhworld when the reset occurred. And he was only brought back inside the manhworld as a consequence of the force reset.

I mean when YJ was drawing for everything that happened in the webtoon to be only just a dream, everyone inside the webtoon world believed and accepted that fact and everything went back to exactly 2 months before. Except for the killer because he was in YJ's world when YJ was drawing that so he didn't have to accept that fact. He was outside the boundary of the place YJ had creator-powers over so he wasn't affected. So that's why he was able to keep his self-awareness.

And the only reason he was able to go back to manhworld was because he was forcibly sucked back in because at that point in time in the manhworld, he was supposed to be there. Lol. Am I making any sense? I cri.

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I don't think so actually... I agree with you about him not being reset maybe because he wasn't in the manhwa but I think the face stealing evil guy is outside of the rules of both the real and manhwa world.

I mean he can freaking teleport in both realities.... and he can contact people from either side at will (remember him calling KC in the manhwa last episode when he was still in the real world), so I don't think the Manhwa controls him at all.

My simplistic theory is that he hitched a ride in Dad's subconscious on the plane and then silently hid there... and then when Dad wrote the Manhwa he didn't like the ending, so he sucked Dad's face in when he went back in...

How he did that I have no clue. Why does the baddy have such awesome superpowers I also don't know... It's really not fair!

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yup I agree that the reasons are

– he is in the real world when the resetting happen
– he already aware of his situation and didn't get written over new memories, he just transported back to the past in the webtoon world

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You got some point. But my idea, is that I think it has something to do with the time that YJ's father made the reset. Before he got pulled to the manhwa world and stubbed Kang Chul, the original killer had already did his part of stubbing Kang Chul. He should have used that part, to show his face while stubbing Kang Chul instead of the part where he got pulled in to the manhwa world. He should't have used his face because Kang Chul recognized him when he was already stubbed by the original killer.

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I don't think killer had the power to steal dad's face in the beginning. The face switch was probably the consequence of dad giving the killer his face and by extension his dentity.

He should have known no two persons could exist with the same face unless you know, they're twins. Lol. Because when YJ appears in the manhwa, all of her goes inside the manhwa because she doesn't exist in the manhwa. Dad should have realized that rendering his face into the face of another person already existing inside the manhwa will result to the manhwa literally sucking in just his face in order for the killer to have it.

Whichever way dad go about it, the moment he decided to give the killer his face, he didn't know that he was literally giving him his face.

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Okay, I *think* i understand: Sung Moo thought he could just draw in his face as the killer, but he couldn't cause they are already firmly two separate entities. Plus Sung Moo has already existed in the comic as himself. The killer has already established himself as the killer, and his strong desire for Chul to find him is what keeps the story alive. They thought drawing a face and a background for the killer would give them control over who and what he was. They were wrong. Sung Moo can't draw himself in where he has already existed, and the killer can't be replaced. So, when his face was drawn for the killer, the killer had to literally take his face. They ended up helping the killer instead of helping themselves.

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I really appreciated Su Bong for the reaction he gave when he saw OSM without a face. Subongie is us. And i think he's the only one who knew at least till an extent how attached Yeon Joo was to Kang Chul. So he made Chul’s love story ending very subtle so it’s just hinted at the fact that Chul and So Hee might get together. Su Bong could have full blown drawn out a confession or a kiss between Chul and So Hee. But instead, I think he took Yeon Joo’s feelings into consideration. I think that’s very sweet.

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You guys are brilliant! I agree that it was of timing difference when YJ draw the "dream scene". The killer also got OSM's face because he will exist in both worlds.

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@Indigo, nice thought and consider this: the first time Yeon-joo got sucked in (before she had anything to do with the story), she went in through the computer screen.

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I think you're right and the villain is exactly like malware. I don't have all the pieces of the puzzle but I think the killer is somehow tied to/controlled by Dad's computer. Maybe it's a stretch but consider:

1. The computer was used in both the creation and revival of the manwha

2. The computer is the portal between the two worlds...figuratively and literally.

3. As far as we know, the computer has been creating manwha scenes on its own. (?)

4. The computer now seems to be giving orders to Dad. (?)

What if they're 3 creators: Dad, Yeon Joo and Dad's computer? What if, not just Chul and the Killer, but also the computer has gone rogue? Since the manwha characters are digital art, pixels, what if the computer was able to take over the villain because he was left formless and essentially characterless? Remember how the villain's original 'face' had monitor-like qualities? What if the computer is like the Matrix of the manwha world?

Ah, molla, molla! My brain is beginning to hurt. Whatever the connections, I don't think this whole thing will permanently end until Dad's computer is destroyed...again.

But I may be completely wrong. No matter, it's an awesome ride and I'm all-in until the bitter happy end.

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But none of that accounts for anything because we've seen a physical portal appear out of thin air in between both worlds!!! And Yeon Joo travels to and from the two realities without the use of any computers all the time!

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Here's what I think on how things went down...

- no-face was last seen chyron bullying his way with osm on the plane. Technically, he's still in yj's world.
- as yj was drawing out the scenes to reset the manwha and by stroke of luck, just as she finished, this haltered no-face's bathroom confrontation with osm. So yeah, he got himself back to the manwha.
- osm gets his hands on the flash drive, fabricates his alter-self (not ego) as the face of no-face. (Note that this scene/episode was yet to be published)
- remember when su bong was out grocery shopping like it was thanksgiving and he got on that call with yj? You do right? So..on that call he was raving on how they found a way to get that happy ending..putting a face to the killer so kang chul and the rest of the manwha can hunt him down with pitchforks and torches *kidding* Okay, so everyone knows that call happened...

What I think was left out...was the impeccable timing that coincided on that call...

You see while su-bong talked about the perfect plan they had with osm...osm began drawing out those scenes on that very tablet that started this whole shebang...

Now, remember no-face? The guilt free-hellbent-attention seeking-villain with no conscience that happened to be back in the manwha.... That villain with impeccable killer instincts must have in some way seen the changes happening --- technically he pulled a Kang Chul on all of us and intervened.

So, no-face decides, "why stop at changing the storyline, when i can be the very author of it." And through his creative ingenuity, he grabs osm back to the manwha with the pen, literally cutting and pasting (ctrl+c,ctrl+v) osm's face on his.

Such an evil genius. It's reverse frankenstein.

Well at least that's how I think it happened...but really at this point, anything unaimaginable is possible.

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And through his creative ingenuity, he grabs osm back to the manwha with the pen, literally cutting and pasting (ctrl+c,ctrl+v) osm’s face on his.

When Su-Bong enters Dad's office, Dad was hunched over the monitor. Visually, it was as if Dad's face was really pulled into the screen (= into W world) to be literally taken away.

I'm thinking it's more like a CTRL+X then CTRL+V (cut/paste) then a copy/paste... *gag*

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@Yeolie, The drawn portal they walk through is linked to Dad's computer. Check out the following scenes again.

1) YJ was pulled through the computer screen the first time she entered the manwha world and saved Chul. Later when we saw the same scene from Chul's perspective, the portal window appeared next to him out of nowhere and he put his hand through it and pulled, first Dad, then YJ, through the computer. Both times, neither Dad nor YJ drew the portal.

2) When Chul became self-aware and his whole world froze, we saw him step through the large portal window which just appeared out of nowhere. When he stepped out on the rooftop in the real world, behind him we saw Dad's computer (which had been discarded on the roof of what seemed to be the motel he'd stayed in) behind him with the screen looking like the portal window. We saw the same thing happen again when the killer also walked through that portal into the real world.

You're right that YJ can move between the 2 worlds without the computer but she's the only one (not sure about Dad). Neither Chul nor the killer could do it on their own. The killer couldn't find his way back to the manwha and even Chul stayed underwater in the real world after his first suicide. YJ had to redraw the manhwa after Chul's suicides for them both to go back. That's why I think the computer may have "Creator" status since the only way to move between the 2 worlds is to 1) be drawn by Dad, 2) be drawn by Yeon Joo, 3) through the computer screen. I also don't think it was a coincidence that Dad's face was resting on the computer screen when he became faceless.

I suspect, but am not sure, that YJ can move easily between the 2 worlds because of she now belongs to both worlds, due to her ties to the main character and having become a main character herself.

Like I said, I don't have it all figured out and could be totally wrong, but I think the computer is an important clue. JMO.

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The problem with dad giving his face to the killer is that the two worlds aren’t as septerate as you’d think – when they used OYJ’s hospital as a template, the manga hospital became an EXACT replica. When OYJ became a ‘character’ in the manwa, the real OYJ actually physically changed, becoming vulnerable in the manwa world. Also, think about it- OYJ exists as both herself and is a character in the manwa. So dad’s decision to make the killer have his face had unforseen consequences. I think it happened when it did because that’s the moment he ‘became’ the killer. Like Harry Pottet becoming the child of the prophecy because Voldamort saught him out, the killer’s identity was cemented as dad’s doppelganger when he was anounced as the killer on live tv. Because the worlds are connected, this caused him to lose his face when he gave it to the killer.

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Only the culprit and Kang Chul had awakening in their world not everyone. And letting Yeon Joo turn those 2 months into a dream doesn't reset everything, only the 2 months. Who knows the culprit had his awakening before those months when Yeon Joo was dragged in their world and he didn't know what to do for Kang Chul needs his awakening to transport to the real world find Mr. Oh and give him an identity and face.

That's what Kang Chul didn't thought about when he asked Yeon Joo the dream. He thought the villain awakened because of him awakening but it's two different things. He just wanted the villain not to cross worlds so that Yeon Joo won't get killed and the character won't vanished.

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YJ now is the key and will become the heroine of the manhwa. The problem now is, i think she can't go back to the real world anytime soon. She has to deal with the problem as a manhwa character and not as the writer.

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But GUYZZZZZ if Oh Yeon Joo who's from the real world can become a manhwa character, than it's completely possible for it to work the other way around and Kang Chul to become real too!!!!

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Oooh, that's good, @Nara. That's really good. Does Chul just have to make a big difference there (like how YJ made a difference in the webtoon?)

Also, former no-face killed three people there--do you think that would be enough to make him (the killer) real?

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Yup. They are up the river with no paddle, neck deep in quicksand and out of the pan and into the fire.

Talk about increasing the stakes- teleporting sentient killer +10000000000 and amnesiac Kang Chul -10.

I regret agreeing with GF that I like my romances exciting with danger clipping at their heels. I TAKE IT BACK! ?

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HAHAHAHAHA This is not the reality I wanted!! /cries/

This is too much omg! I fear for everyone already and with KC having zero memory about the two worlds... this is bad! very very veryyy baddddd!! And I am liking it! HAHAHA!

No but seriously. How will they defeat such villain??!!! How??

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Teleporting Truck of Doom is the only way to get him. Great, now I'm imagining that on the airplane. I take it back!

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I'd like to see if Writer Song pulls out any more of the lazy tropes she doesn't like to combat it. Or will all of the tropes just make things worse?

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Because what fun would it be if we watched our OTP go throught hell once? Nah, we'll make them re-live the moment twice...thrice...until all you viewers get sick to your stomachs and your brains crack open. -- the subconscious mind of writer nim.

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The villain won't die unless OSM improves his poor writing skills. In a story, there are two main characters, the hero and the villain. In a usual action series, the hero has the privilege to remain alive whenever he's threatened, while the villain has the ability to seek him out up to the point when they have the ultimate showdown, resulting in the eventual arrest or death of the villain. When OSM decides to end the series with a poorly developed plot, the two characters are then bestowed with self-awareness. It's as if they, if not the story itself, are correcting the storyline. The villain now becomes a sasaeng fan going after KC. Notice me, oppa kind of thing. All the side characters have the risk of being written out because that's just how the rule of story writing goes.

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I agree with HaHa. Poor writing must be the key why the killer remained self aware. In KC's case, he forgot because they just had to rewrite like 2 months of manhwa time and 2 weeks of real time so the Manhwa world didnt have to "fill" a lot of time. But for NFK, they rewrote almost all of his existence to fit in flashbacks in just 4 episodes which is not enough time to fully flesh out a believable villain/character. The Manhwa world couldn't keep up with the retcon so NFK's self awareness remained intact. It's like it's easier to rewrite a 700mb cd but if you're gonna reformat a 1T HDD you'll need more time.

***I'm having internal bleeding with all these theorizing.

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True!

The ending they thought of was too easy. You do not end a 30 plus volume series just like that. Also, everything was too neat too fast. There was not enough time for the arc to actually be completed. Such a rushed ending. Maybe everything really is because of dad's poor writing. Lol

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What you wrote sounds so familiar as it applies to most kdrama with a rushed ending!

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@TaeBi LOL agreed! It was way too easy. It's so laughable when OSM surrendered and spouted all he did just like that. Even KC ws confused how they could have missed it. They checked all CCTV and none! Now suddenly there's one?! hahaha! So convenient. This reminds me of some kdramas I've watched when things get easily resolved by the penultimate episode when they spent around 15 episodes trying to solve the problem. And Like what @Sophie said, it applies to a large chunk of kdramas.

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I also think that the seemingly "rule-defying" characteristic of the villain (No-Face) is somehow connected to oh seung moo's poor writing skill. Remember this drama writer have been showing heavy meta on plot loopholes, weak characterization, etc. (almost like social commentary on what frustrates drama viewers like us in real life..lol)..When oh seung moo confessed to Kang Chul that there was really no killer and No-Face was just created as a plot device to forward the story..fading in and out in the storyline when he is "needed" to make chul's life dangerous and in constant vigilance..with no context..then its like saying that No-Face is deux ex machina... Playing god in the W world .. And that my friends is the brilliant meta for this character..

I have to give props to this drama.. Im usually a silent lurker in this site..but everything that has been happening made me read even all the comments after recap (a first since i started watching asian dramas) and made me want to join the fray in the discussion.. :-)

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Seems to be and now that he has OSM's face and could probably be even more powerful in re-writing the story based on what he wants, he could well be the main character of W which is very very bad because then he can easily get rid off those side characters that serve him no purpose.

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Now I finally understand why OSM never got famous before the manhwa writes itself. Because he lacks even the most basic of story-writing skills and knowledge. He must have been happy when KC gained free will and wrote a fantastic story for him and got him famous. Sigh, he even got his last chance to redeem himself by giving the story a proper happy ending but he even screw that up. I guess if I'm a character in his manhwa, I'd too be pissed off enough to rip his f-ing face off.

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For once, it didn't matter that our OTP broke up --- well it still matters a lot but I liked how they side tracked the issue and focused on blind siding us with that face swap bombshell. The entire episode centered on OSM and No-Face which took every bit of my attention. The flashbacks were more than what I have hoped for, but majority of which made sense.
I will take the crosswalk scene of So hee and Kang Chul as a dream sequence. Because I am never buying that.

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Couldn't agree with you more...the No-Face plot-line was gripping! All the while, I was just sitting there, thinking about the film, Face Off/Off (starring Nicholas Cage and John Travolta) lol. But this was waaaaaaay creepier!!! Coz dad was literally left without a face!! Face removal surgery gone wrong, eek!!

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Poor dad, how if he is hungry? How can he eat then? ?

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Omg!!!!!! It never even occurred to me that dad couldn't eat without a face!!!! Seriously that's such a BAD way too go, starved to death because you have no face speak of, to actually eat something. Is he racing against time as we speak, and it just hasn't occurred to any of them ? Like obviously the killer never needed to do trivial things like eat or drink cause he was only ever real as a plot device whenever OSM needed him in the story, but Dad is a *real* human in the real world things like that affect him normally like they don't Yeon Joo!!!

But then again, he's still breathing and he has no nose and mouth. How does that work.. Mmh

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Kim Eui Sung (Dad's actor) posted on facebook that he can't eat jokbal (pig trotters) now that he's without a mouth "how regrettable" i LAUGHED omg.

And this man is mAD TALENTED as an actor, he's been good so far but his acting skills really struck me this ep. not just as no-face, but also the scene when he came back to see Yeon Joo in her room. Just from his facial expressions i was thinking to myself wow he really, really loves his daughter and it touched my heart.

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Well, goodbye alcohol too!!

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@ Yoyo, I loled when I read that (no more alcohol). Also, I agree that I was successfully diverted from the pain of our torn OTP. (except for that scene where she keeps getting pulled back in. That was heartwrenching.)

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Lol!!! I laughed more than I should have at that. That's probably the only GOOD thing to come of this. No alcohol consumption for appa!

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This episode was almost everything that I want in a drama! It started off a little slow but at the end I was at the edge of my seat. I'm still trying to pick my jaw off the floor!! Yes. The no face!!! What a twist!

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I'm also ok with OTP not being central this time, but a lot are complaining about the lack of romance lol (not here in DB). For me, the romance department will feel so much more compelling when we have this twisted situation that affects if they will make it out together or not in the end.

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Same, but I'll admit we've been spoiled (I was wondering how they'd give us a kiss this week). We still got one... but it was a flashback. I can't wait to see how they make it back together (when he remembers. Oooh, it's gonna be so good!)

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Sibling is still there, at this rate he's the only one we can count on to save the day. With Yeon Joo stuck in the manhwa world and Daddy Oh with no face, and Kang Chul with no memory. Jesus, Subongs job is HARD..

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Soo Bong needs many, many bonuses and a fully-paid vacation, and also repairs for his car bumper and windshield. And headrest.

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Don't forget therapy and the meds that go with it.

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Subong* whoops, silly autocorrect. Yes Subongie needs some kind of medal for assignation of the year, Daddy Oh better appreciate the hell out of him when all of this is over.

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I thought No Face was scary. I was wrong. No Face with Dad’s face is terrifying, and Dad with no face is what my nightmares are made out of. When I watched it the first time with raws... I think we were all Subong this episode.

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Yup @Shiver. I jerked away from my computer screen when I saw Dad without a face. And the actor is killing it (oops, unintended pun) as our villain. I always look for that one scene to say "now this is why they chose him to be the actor." Killer's on tv appearance was that scene for me. Absolutely captivating.

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I really love the actor whose playing OSM!!!! I thought him playing alcoholic dad, and vacation dad were a welcome change but then he played the killer and that's when I realized why they must have picked this actor!!! He doesn't even seem like the same person! It was impressive, seriously talented.

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Subongie.. ? our last ray of hope, and possible saviour. I hope Kang Chul regains his memory, but I think that won't happen because he literally doesn't have those memories to remember post time reset. It's sad.. But there's still the comics in Yeon Joos room I suppose

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I wonder if it will happen a bit like in Nine. They remembered alternate timelines there, without changing their current reality. Perhaps something similar could happen? Because I don't want him to never remember!

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honestly I don't see it happening guys. As much as I'd like for him to remember his memories, I don't think he actually will. And it's a bit depressing cause Kang Chul pre memory reset was a changed and evolved character, all that growth for nothing! We're probably going to have to go full circle, and I think that's the direction the story's going to be going. Like 'Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind' where they're just prewired to keep falling in love with each other.

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I think Yeon Joo kept appearing in kcs world when ever he thought of his sad forgotten dream but she was sent back everytime his thoughts train changed untill the time they bumped at the hospital with the ring as soon as they met he noticed her and must have been thinking of her untill he got in to his car and she was out of his sight he stopped thinking about her sending her back because to kc she doesnt hold much of importance thus she is not needed in the story. Then at the emergency room this dream thoughts or the girl with the ring thought must be connected to hospital as soon as he thoght about it that way she appeared in front of him but now she has gotten his attention and thus she needed in the story and cant go back untill the chapter ends.

some people are complaining about having too many flashbacks i would complain about other dramas but W needs them to make the context clear. Some people definately dont pay attention to all the details. And flash backs are seeming too frequent because episode 9 and 8 wasnt suppose to be aired in the same week.

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There's another possibility for the reason why she appeared in the hospital. So far as I know, Yeon-joo has actually been pulled into the comic for two reason
1) when he thinks about her, consciously or subconsciously (I think he was dreaming about her again when she first came back in post-reset)
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2) when she's badly needed. This only happened once, the first time when she saved his life. There's a possible second (when she went to the river) but there's debate about that. I think this is another time when the webtoon just needs her. Plus I don't think she ever lost character status.

As for the flashbacks, I agree with you--W needs them to make sense. But I also love the way they've done it (adding dream sequences, playing out possibilities) because now it feels like a cool stylistic choice as well. It's trippy (in a good way?) when they play out one reality and then yank you back with "jk, that's not what happened."

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I don't even know how dad's face got captured, because he's a real life human right, how can he face just suddenly go missing? It doesn't follow any of the laws of the natural world. Can the webtoon world manipulate reality now as well?

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I think it because kangchul memories ia from the real dad, he is still the centre of his webtoon, he believes that dad stabbed him,

so the webtoon make it real as kangchul memories, the dad's face is taken since the killer already has his physical body in the webtoon world,

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Yeah, I'm assuming that too. Since OSM and the Killer have different name, OSM can't get dragged to W as a whole, so it's just his face...

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I think dad missed a crucial point when he decide to use his own face on killer - the reset would have effectively erased kang chul's memories of ever seeing him /on the rooftop, given how his memories of yj were said to disappear after a few weeks.

*unless* dad and kc's interactions had started even earlier in the game, before the period that turned in a dream. In which case, face-swap on...
O.o

(a bit late to this party- but I am soooo happy to have all episodes laid subbed /recapped in front of me <3)

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Daddy Oh has already existed in the comic as himself. He can't draw himself in where he has already existed, there are rules to the comic book world and the two worlds seem deeply connected for there not to be deep repercussions for what they were trying to do by carrying out their plan!! So, when his face was drawn for the killer, the killer had to literally take his face.

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I think Dad broke the basic rule of existence by trying to exist in 2 worlds at once. It's not possible. I wonder if the Killer will take all of Dad's identity leaving him...oh, don't wanna think about it. Dad's situation is giving me that Dorian Gray vibe. *shudder*

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Rules? There are no rules!

This is just the writer's imagination run wild, throwing out every preconceived notion, theory, formula with a spice of quantum mechanics/theory added to blow our heads off. I can't imagine how she was able to get this out of her head coherently.

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Okay, i'm sorry to say...
I love this drama so so much.

But the ep 8 and 9, moves from Unpredictable to a little bit illogical. Because the drama rules keep on changing.
And its become so difficult to learn.

Like:
a. Chul in YJ world, moves like normal people. How does No-Face can teleport and how does the chyron exist?
b. How come No-Face can transport to the real world through that screen, when everyone except Chul as the Main Character freeze?
c. No Face come to YJ World two months ago (Remember? the same time with Chul). But how come he only seek for YJ or OSM two months later? after YJ drag to W world again. Why?
d. How come YJ can comeback in W world (when the ring drop and the hospital after the shooting) when Chul clearly doesn't remember or miss her?
e. How come OSM face gone?

My brain is stopped working.
I really dont wanna my Cheese in The Trap trauma repeated. Esp with this drama...

Please be good please be good...
And im afraid the next rating will go down, coz it very difficult to follow for crowd audience.

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It’s a dream to Kang Chul but not to the real killer.

If you watched Queen Inhyun’s Man and Nine, you would know this writer of W is the be all and end all to imagination. How many times were there developments that we could not predict? It’s true that this writer is crazy.

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I've watched Queen in hyun mans, but but but... QIHM is still have consistent rules.

"It’s a dream to Kang Chul but not to the real killer."
How come? when time is resetting in W worlds, that means No-Face and the entire person on the W worlds is resetting. He back to the time after he stabbed Chul in the roof top.

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Simple, the killer is self aware so by taking away Kang Chul's memories they only made him powerless as the main character since he forgot everything about being a Manhwa character. And because the killer was stuck in the real world, by resetting time to two months before, all they did was send him back to the manhwa. They didn't rewrite HIS memories. And that probably should have been at the forefront of their plan, but they never knew that the killer became a separate entity outside the comic by going into the real world, instead of just a plot device.

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Or to put it more simply, when she wrote the 'everything is a dream' panel she didn't make one with the Faceless Killer, and he was back in the real world. So he was all "Oh they retconned 2 months into a dream sequence -- whatever, I'm still the ghost in the machine bwahaha".

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Or No-Face indeed lost memories but he was on the brink of self-wareness before the rooftop, which is why he was not frozen in the police station. After the reset, he found his own portal into the real world.

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A) Killer teleports the same way he has no face - it's just the way Dad designed him. Given a lot of the situations Dad designs are only achievable through teleportation of the Killer, that's just how he works. And unfortunately retains those powers in Yeon Joo's world.

B) Self-awareness. Killer probably became self-aware quite early; Kang Chul only started questioning his life when he realized how atypical his experiences were, but Killer has no face and teleports and this clearly bothers him. His entire being is atypical.

C) It looks like it took a while for Killer to restart the manhwa after Chul's suicide. The actual time between Chul entering YJ's world and him leaping from the bridge wasn't long at all. And Killer is kind of emo about his existential crises, and also a planner.

D) Chul's subconscious remembers her - like when you get hypnotized and remember things in much more detail than when you consciously recall. She's buried somewhere in his head that he doesn't know exists, and that part of him is summoning her accidentally.

E) I have absolutely no idea how he stole Dad's face. I was all proud of Dad for thinking logically too! When I saw him slumped I thought Killer had murdered him, some sort of "there can be only one" thing. It's somehow better AND WORSE that he's alive, but with a claymation face.

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Thank you Miranda,
Actually i never think so hard like this when watching a drama... But maybe my brain need to exercise too. Hehe..

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@Miranda, thanks for answering!

As for E) Killer didn't steal Dad's face. I think (some comments above say the same), that Dad already existed in the manhwa. When he drew his face in, it got transported inside. Rather like how Yeon-joo gets transported into the manhwa and cannot be in manhwa and real world at the same time.

I have a question about this face-stealing though:

Will there ever come a time when this face-stealing will bite Killer in the ass? Maybe Dad can fight for control of his face in the manhwa world and mess with Killer's plans?

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When there will come the time, when Chul has to defeat "used to be No-Face, but now he has a face". So the face cannot be harm, otherwise dads face will be harmed too?

Ah ah ah, my brain... my brain...

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Did the killer takeover the father's identity in the airplane toilet? Without a face, could he absorb an identity? The design of the father's face for the killer only occurs after the toilet incident. If so, this gives the killer all sorts of power in controlling the story from both worlds.

This would explain the father losing his face...The killer only needs the face (as he already has a body). Hence, when the killer returns into the manhwa, the face must disappear from the outside world.

My unanswered question is what was the agreement between the father and killer...? This must have been made much earlier in the manhwa story than the rooftop stabbing and has huge implications for all the main characters.

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That' my hope at this point, because otherwise I have not a clue how they're going to get out of this mess. I just hope that if Dad takes control of Killer's body, that doesn't mean killer goes into Dad's.

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I don't think it's that the killer has teleporting power like an x-man as much as Dad always just drew him popping in when needed and leaving when not with no explanation. So now that he's aware it's a manwha he can just blip around; he also seems to be able to cross in and out at will.

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Yes, i agree when he can teleport in W world, because its manhwa. But in the YJ world, how can he teleport? When Chul is also walking around like normal people.

Unless... unless YJ world is not the real world...

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This drama world already has manhwa characters popping out from books so of course it i s a fantasy world.

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Ok, a couple of crazy thoughts about this:

A) Agree, the killer is just staying as he was before. However, the killer "teleporting" himself is the thing that bothers me the most with this setup. I thought once you make him human and explain why he was able to appear in all that places at the right moment, then he would start being a normal human in the webtoon. Did Dad fail to complete the transformation? (see E)

B) How do we know the killer is self aware right now? He is just chasing Kang Chul and happy to be able to show his face, but does he know why he could not do it before? This point is not at all that clear to me. Everything that happened with Yeon Yoo turned out to be a dream and when Chul woke up, in the manwha world it was the next day to the stabbing on the rooftop. The killer only became self aware in Kang Chul's dream. Therefore, the killer should be as Kang Chul, who was also self aware and visited the real world, but suddenly none of this happened.

D) Chul subconciously remembers Yeon Yoo as the dream that he had but forgot...

E) We do not know how advanced was Dad while drawing. All we saw was Soo Bong imagination when he discussed the happy ending with Yeon Yoo. Did Dad got to the point to drawing the killer with his face? It might have happened that you cannot exist in both worlds at the same time and this is why he lost his face the moment he draw the killer. The killer stealing Dad's face sounds a bit too absurd, haha! (if that is possible here). If this is the case, a new "reset" of the story would be the only possible solution. And since Yeon Yoo is inside the manhwa and Dad is out of the question...maybe this time it is Soo Bong's turn to make things happen?

W is so crazy but I love it so much. Who would have said that you can enjoy so much and get immersed in this sort of story game. :D

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I feelt he same way about Soo Bong's huge role in this if Dad doesn't have a face and YJ's stuck in manhwa. He'll have to do the work to help them both. Poor guy though. Will he be able to concentrate with No Face Teacher beside him when he's such a nervous wreck. haha!

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@phoe, maybe these are the possible answers for your questions: (I hope it make sense...)

a. Chul in YJ world, moves like normal people. How does No-Face can teleport and how does the chyron exist?
No-Face, NF can teleport but not Kang Chul, KC because that is how dad wrote his character. Multiple times, the show showed to us that he has the capability to come from nowhere (eg: stab KC at rooftop, fight KC in his penthouse, etc) and then “poof” disappeared after he done his “deed”.
Chyron exist because NF and dad have no mouth to speak.

b. How come No-Face can transport to the real world through that screen, when everyone except Chul as the Main Character freeze?
NF can transport to the real world through the screen because he is the only other character that has this awakening other than KC (due to his strong intention of killing and getting identity). Other characters seems not to have that awakening although the ahjussi W head programme sense that something is not right in their world.

c. No Face come to YJ World two months ago (Remember? the same time with Chul). But how come he only seek for YJ or OSM two months later? after YJ drag to W world again. Why?
Maybe NF did not enter YJ world immediately after KC did. Maybe he came a bit later. As the W world stopped, we do not know the time difference between the TWO worlds. And when NF did enter the YJ world, two months had already passed in YJ world.

d. How come YJ can comeback in W world (when the ring drop and the hospital after the shooting) when Chul clearly doesn’t remember or miss her?
I suspect that YJ can enter the W world when KC is discharged from the hospital (the ring drop) because previously the show showed us that he met YJ right after he got discharged from the hospital.
And also, I suspect that YJ enter the W world again when the killing spree occur because probably YJ has somehow played the role of rescuing KC (in W world) when he is harmed and in danger. And of course YJ can enter the W world when KC thinks of her.

e. How come OSM face gone?
That is beyond my mind. It is mind boggling unless both YJ and KC worlds are not real!!!

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"How come OSM face gone?"

Dad only has one face. He & killer can't both have it. Remember, everything specific & individual is different between the two worlds -- people, hospital name, etc. No duplicates.

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@ Lord Cobol
Your reasoning is logic. But if dad is made of flesh and blood, it could have never happened. In fact, it can never happen to any human being.

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I get the part where No Face had to literally steal Dad's face. But I don't get why Dad had to speak in chyron too after his face is gone?? Dad is an ordinary human being. When he lost his face, he should just became a defective man who couldn't see or talk. Or is it Dad not even real human? Are they all just manhwa characters??

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@wheatmill
I think that's the problem. NFK had no face, eyes, mouth, or nose but could use those senses. OSM doesn't become disabled but his face is gone. He can talk, see and smell like no face.
I think i made sense to me....

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Aw scratch that. OSM is blind for some reason

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I agree. The same magic that allows Dad to travel to the manhwa world is the reason there cannot be "two" of them. Although this is not my preferred way forward since I do not see a problem in having sort of a "doppleganger" which also can happen in real life. I was excited thinking of the possibilities of Dad and the killer looking the same... kind of dissapointed now...

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Wait! Dad already gave his face to the guy who killed KC's family. That makes dad there 3 times! Sucked in self, killer of family, and now Super Killer.

I think there are 3 worlds in the fith dimension with infinity and my lost reasoning ability.

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Opps! I had lost my brain when I thought there were 3 dads.

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Thankyou Wheatmill and Lord Cobol.
Your analysis is logic

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And Chul is left to ride off into the sunset with… This is where Yeon Soo gets really sad. Soo Bong stumbles over himself a little but tells her that he’ll keep the ending vague but still have Chul and Soo Hee “together” at the end.

KMUSE and I both freaked out a bit when they show So Hee and Kang Chul give each other googly eyes. I know she’s supposed to be the heroine but I still just can’t see Chul with her. I’m totally on the BongHee ship. I’d love for So Hee to meet Soo Bong and have an awakening and decide to create her own purpose in life. They would be really cute together and she’d have some much needed fun.

(the above quoting from texts) Worldiz, you must read the text, the writer quite humorous. and most important, she shared our similar sentiments, let's officially root for So Hee and Soo Bong: Bong-Hee Ship. i am so done seeing Bong-hee 'shamelessly' (wink-wink, we would like to do that to our own Paper-doll-LJS) hugging and kissing Giant-Paper-Doll-SoHee..... huh, so there're still such thing call 'paper-doll' at this Gen.?

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a. Because Chul is a normal person in the manhwa while No-Face is predetermined to be this no identification come at Dad's will but disappear into air when not needed.

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I don't know why the "sit down" part sounded like KC's voice... LOL that was weird

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This drama is like a giant "The Road to Hell is Paved With Good Intention" advertisment. No good deed goes unpunished.

You know what, maybe it's the killer who has the power to change the storyline all alone, not Chul. Ah, this drama hurts my brain. I still don't get the rule between real world - webtoon world interaction.

If I was a W webtoon fan though, I would act exactly like the Professor and would prefer to pretend that the YJ's story arc never existed in the first place or that it was written by a different author.

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Ah, forgot to say that the actor who play YJ's father is so good.

Not that he was not good before, but I didn't realized how captivating he is until he played the killer. As the author, he is very believable but the character does not interest me at all, but as a the killer he caught my attention. The eyes are different.

It really proves that a demanding character is important for a good actors to show their craft.

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The actor playing dad/killer is amazing. If I didn't know I'd think it's two different actors, he not only looks completely different when he's the killer but his demeanor, voice everything doesn't resemble dad at all, it's kind of blowing my mind (or whatever that gooey stuff is that's left after this week's episodes).

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Totally agree he was AMAZING! If his face had not been the same I would have thought it was a completely different actor. I was shocked at his transfermation. Both of them.

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He is indeed amazing! I was like whoa!! This guy is totally unlike Dad and very scary!! He just gunned down everyone at the station without blinking and he's egging KC on to find him. *shudders*

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He's Poeun from Six Flying Dragons!

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OH.MY.GOD. thanks for that piece of info!!!! he's an amazing actor

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I did feel like punching Professor though. Lol. I know I was being irrational but he was seriously annoying me by gloating over YJ, even if he didn't mean it. I for one hope YJ and KC get together in the end of the manhwa just so that he has to read it! Ha!

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he feels so happy and overboard with it but at least it gives another view about the webtoon,

I can't hate him because I find him funny when the drama sunk my heart

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Funny how the fans of the manhwa W loves how everything was reset, but me as the fan of drama W cries inside because our OYJ lost her sweet romance.

This episode exceeded last episode's craziness. I demand my sanity back!

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Even though it's sad, I saw it coming, so no tears just yet.

Usually K-drama makes me cried around episode 10-13 ... let's see which episode of W will make me break out my Kleenex box.

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I completely love the Crazy Dog surgeon. He is a massive, terrible nerd and he's wonderful - and in that scene, a stand-in for this show's fan base.

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This. I just couldn't stop laughing while he fanboyed over W. And the hand signal. Oh dear. I'm totally gonna do that to one of my friends now. I love how this show almost feels interactive, with us as conflicting fans sometimes with the W webtoon's.

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Kind of sad that it took So Hee 10 years+ to get a pat on the head while Yeon Joo got like 4 kisses, forehead kisses, and hugs within 2 months of meeting him Lol..

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Ah, but that's the difference between thriller and sweet romantic genre *insert Chul's wink here*

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Not to mention YJ received tons of flirting from KC. I'll never buy that open-ended conclusion Dad planned for Sohee and KC. It's one of those drama endings that I hate. lol

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But that pat on the head is not even real because that is only part of SB's talk to YJ.

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Am I alone in not being puzzled that the "real world" of W does not follow the rules of our real world?

I mean, in their real world, it is possible for real characters to be dragged in a manga, and take things from that back. In fact, it's the entire premise of this drama. So if it's possible for something absurb like that to happen in the "real world," what is the reason that another strange thing like losing one's face, teleporting, etc. deemed not as credible to happen or too bizarre for a "real world" that's based on something impossible to start with. I don't think it's more difficult to believe than the fact that u can travel back and forth into a book.

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Think of it this way: reality is melting and the real world is being degraded by the manwha world. It's like the fantasy world is feeding on the real universe.

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I could not agree more. YJ's world is a fantasy world in the first place because the drama is set to be about comic characters becoming alive which will never happen in our real world.

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it's a k-drama/tv show! It's not supposed to be realistic (like most other tv shows) In Lee Jong Suk's other drama "I Hear Your Voice" he could read people's minds, but that's not realistic either so does that mean his world isn't the real world either then?

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@desiree If you're asking why people are not as puzzled over the face loss as compared to YJ being dragged into the manga, to me it's because they already gave us a 'reason' why people are being dragged in, whereas this face loss thing just doesn't make sense.. Yet.

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I like how they built up the angst gradually. Right from assuring So Hee the marriage is fake and her importance in his life to later reseting the two months in his life. I absolutely love Yeon Joo's reactions in both the situations. She just stands there witnessing the whole thing saying nothing cause she understands the mess they are in. Later in the bit when Chul let's her go she listens to every word of him with her head down, weeping to herself maybe, and there is a silent understanding there. She lets every word sink in, understands the gravity of it, then lifts her head to look at Kang Chul walk away from her and goes back to her world to fix things. So where Kang Chul has decided to embrace his fate as it comes, Yeon Joo has accepted hers as well.

I like it how typical tropes are repackaged and presented with a twist, such that it becomes legitimized in the context of the show. So while i don't buy amnesia in any show, i am looking forward to it here and totally buying it here, cause it is logical when set in this world...context as Chul says. The angst continues every time Yeon Joo finds herself in front of a memory washed Chul - ack it's not even in her hands...the worlds wouldn't let her forget. That ring. Oh stop showing me Yeon Joo holding on to that ring. My heart cannot take it. It cannot take the fact that Chul hands her the ring totally unaware. (He HAS to get the memories back. Come on writers!)

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Re: typical tropes

That's brilliant! We've talked for a few episodes about how Song Jae-Jung seems to be calling out all lazy writers and all poorly written stories--and this kind of ties it all together for me. A major part of the story so far has been context and how it explains things. I feel like she's saying, "Look, it's not that you can't hit your hero and have your amnesia too--just make sure it makes sense. It has a context. It's got to be a natural consequence of the story, not a convenient device like Dad wrote."

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'It cannot take the fact that Chul hands her the ring totally unaware.'

This part hit quite hard too. I mean, the first time around, that ring was put on by YJ herself which is sad in its own way. After the reset, when Chul does not know her, but at least he gave that ring to YJ in person, which is all sorts of ironic in the saddest way.

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Re: acting just like professor, I think I'd be a little bit different (probably because I'm a sucker for a good romance story) and still love the YJ arc. I'd be grateful it was all just a dream, though--then I'd feel like the author wanted to play with his audience a bit and enjoy the webtoon before it ended. Like an inside joke, somehow.

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aww. Why do I feel this scenario must have happened at least once in our real world?

I mean, take Marvel for example, how many reboots have they done?

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This is me scrambling for words that could properly express as to what happened in this roller coaster of an episode...

Episode 9: "The sum of all of fears" as I would like to call it.

Before I even begin to point out all the twists, I'll let myself bask in the glorious sight of Lee Jong Suk in a black robe. Those 16 seconds temporarily made everything right in this world and every other world for that matter. Thank you, Lee Jong Suk in the black robe. May I see more of you soon.

Now for the crazy, did-that-just-happened, oh-no-you-didn't, who-the-, what-the, i-just-can't moments..

1. Bearded Su Bong made a brief appearance. I liked it. I wanna see bearded Su Bong again. He made butterflies flutter.

2. Yeon Joo just made a remake of the movie Jumper. Raise your hand if you counted how many times she popped in and out of the manwha *raises hand*

3. No-Face has a found a new way to torment his victims, chyron bullying and choking.

4. Yeon Joo's acceptable meltdown. I thought her breakdown would eat up half of the episode and I was glad that it was brief and appropriate. Well played. *slow claps*

5. Professor Crazy Dog's victory dance - this comes in second as my favorite part of the episode. That was one epic victory dance, I wanted to be by his side and give him a high five while we do the running man together.

6. When W pulls a Face Off (where is Nicolas Cage?) Daddy Oh gets the deets from Kang Chul via the thumb drive, proceeds to recreate the "happy ending", then manages to make himself the face of No-face. While I had guessed this previously, I never thought they'd actually go with it. Dayum.

7. So the award for the freakiest moment in kdrama history goes to... *drum roll* Will the real OSM please stand up? Gaddamn that moment. When the chyron appeared in front of Su Bong, I was waiting for no-face to pop out or him finding OSM with a bullet hole in his forehead...but Nooooooo...that's too predictable..and W doesn't do predictable! Instead, we get to see OSM with literally his face erased...and that's when my jaw dropped.. The image is still haunting my thoughts, it reminded me of when I first saw Voldemort. Oh such horror. I'm still not over it and I have a million questions that begin with how and why..... Still want to do Face Swap on Snapchat??

8. Su Bong is now the epitome of "screaming to your hearts content." Poor guy was traumatized for sure. Who wouldn't be?!!

9. The real no-face is taking a stand and he is one scary fella. I cannot wait to see the havoc he'll raise. Finally, the manwha's original storyline is happening.

10. Fate is a bitch. Stop playing with our OTP.

I completely forgot that we were watching two worlds...this episode felt like it was one world, the manwha. It's like they merged both worlds in this episode, good job writers and the production team! When the writer just killed all our drama tropes in 1 episode, Respect.

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Episode 9. How could you mess with our heads that way? You shouldn't go 0 to 60 in the last 5 minutes, that's cheating. Episode 9. Gaddamn.

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I think that initially, this was supposed to be a Wednesday episode with a quick Thursday to follow. From what I had read, they did not expect the rescheduling for the Olympics, so it has thrown off the airing of episodes. That means this cliffhanger and the pain of Yeon Joo we see in this episode was only supposed to stay with us for a day or so.

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Well now it's a full week of torment for us...

But since I'm crazy, i'll go off the bat on this one and say that episode 9 had distinct similarities to the series Nine. Just in this very episode. I wanted to see if the magic incense made its way to the manwha, because there were certain scenes reminiscent of Nine.

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Face Swap on Snapchat. Hahah. Well played.

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^Hilarious.
I'll never think of Face Swap the same way again. That last scene drove me crazy!

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LMAO

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LOL. Snapcat Face Swap - Are You Willing To Risk It? :D

(now I'm even paranoid about using emojis)

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