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Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: Episode 10

Our heroine now has two suitors with two completely different approaches vying for her affections, and with restrictions aplenty, hers doesn’t seem the most enviable position to be in. Despite everyone having something to say in the matter, ultimately the choice is up to Su, even if that means she’ll have to find a way to make her voice heard if she hopes to change her present, much less the future.

 
EPISODE 10 RECAP

After his “You are mine” speech, So goes in for the kiss, and Su struggles weakly against him. Then, she goes still as a tear runs down her cheek. Only then does So pull away, his eyes intent on her face, her shaking hands.

He stumbles backward, regret over his actions seeping in. Su continues to cry silently until So grabs her by the wrist and pulls her after him. Next thing we see is fourteenth prince Jung spotting the two leaving the palace on horseback.

Jung reports what he saw to Wook, who’s in disbelief that Su would have left the palace in the first place—and with So, for that matter. He loses his temper at the fact that she, a court lady, left the palace, though Jung says that So wouldn’t have been concerned about breaking that most sacred of rules. If anyone’s going to pay, it’ll be Su.

That’s what Jung is worried about the most, and he won’t accept Wook’s order for him to just stay in the palace. He wants to help Wook look for Su, since he knows what would happen to her if she gets caught. Wook apologizes for still thinking of Jung as a child, and accepts his offer to help.

We find the two escapees looking out at the sunrise on horseback, and their conversation can only be heard in voiceover as Su notes that neither of them will be safe now. “Then should we run away?” So’s voice replies. “If you want to, I will.”

On their feet now, So explains that he had been wanting to bring her here. She looks up at him as he offers a small smile in return, but her gaze returns to the rolling waves. He asks her if she still wants him to leave the palace, claiming that he’s never brought misfortune or used his sword without caring for the costs.

Only now does Su try to convince herself that the visions she saw of So as King Gwangjong must have been a hallucination, and even if they weren’t, she should still try to stop him. When she speaks, she gives him platitudes about living life with a smile (and without spilling blood) no matter where he ends up living.

So says she needs to just say the word and he’ll run away with her, but Su insists that as a court lady, she can’t leave the palace. But the real reason is much more complicated: “I have feelings for another.” So: “Baek-ah?” Hah. Okay, he really is clueless.

When she says it isn’t, So says it’s fine as long as it’s not Baek-ah. Because he’d have to kill whoever it is she does have feelings for, and he likes Baek-ah. “You already belonged to me the day Yeonhwa was beating you and I called you mine,” he adds. “You saw me for who I was. There was no need for explanations or excuses.”

As far as her being afraid of him, he says he doesn’t believe it. “You are the only one on my side. Therefore, I am not sorry for anything. Not for kissing you, or for bringing you out here.” He adds that he won’t be sorry even if he makes threats against her for having feelings for another man, and hands her a hairpin.

Su shakes her head as she looks down at the gift, insisting that she’d only meant to help him, and that she never intended for him to have feelings for her. “Try running away from me then,” he says with a smile. Putting the hairpin in her hands, he tells her she can throw it away if she so chooses.

Wook and Jung see them on the road and promptly dismount, with Su worrying that her absence from the palace has already been noted. Wook looks positively livid as So makes it so that Jung can’t escort Su off the horse. He’ll be the one to return her to the palace.

At least Wook has enough sense to tell him that people will start to talk if they return to the palace together, but So counters that the king already gave Su to him. “Gave her to you?” Wook repeats the words, clearly not liking the taste of them in his mouth.

But then Su inexplicably says that she’ll go back to the palace with So, leaving Wook and Jung with no other options. I wonder if it’s because So would have to take the responsibility of removing her from the palace rather than the two other princes, but it’s hard to be sure.

Wook makes So promise that nothing will happen to Su on his watch before he lets them set off. “This is the last time I’ll send her away like this,” Wook tells Jung, a dangerous look in his eyes.

So brings Su back to a waiting Court Lady Oh, and immediately takes the blame for removing Su from the palace. Once he leaves, Court Lady Oh blames Su’s small act of kindness as the reason why So’s feelings have gotten out of control, and the only advice she has is for Su to wait for So’s feelings to subside.

Third prince Yo imparts some tips on archery to Wook, who keeps missing the mark. Yo claims that he always imagines a person as the target, and in this case, he’s clearly imagining So as he hits the target time and again. While Wook claims to take the higher road, he keeps missing, and Yo tsks at what he perceives as weakness.

Yo knows that the king is sending him away from the palace to die, but he’s resolved that he’ll come back safe and sound. He plants the seed of doubt in Wook’s mind as to who he should be targeting in the meantime—and Wook, seemingly filled with new resolve, draws his bow and fires. It’s a bullseye.

Su and Wook meet again in the not-so-secret cave beneath the baths, where she tries to explain that she only chose to return with So to be sure that Wook wouldn’t get in trouble. “I am not angry,” Wook assures her. “I am just disappointed.” Oof, that’s always worse.

Wook claims that he was always too busy worrying about the consequences of taking her out of Damiwon, yet while he was agonizing, So took the action that he couldn’t. Now, he says that he’ll request the king’s permission to marry her.

Her eyes widen at this, and Wook explains that he almost lost her to the king—he won’t make the mistake of losing her again. Su was the one who brought joy and laughter back into his life, and because of that, he’s willing to leave the palace to live the rest of his days with her, and give her all the love he never gave Lady Hae.

“Therefore, Su… will you be my wife?” Su’s instantly flooded with conflicting thoughts, as she tells herself that he won’t ever change, nor will he ever hurt her. (Is she using So as a point of comparison?) She would be happy with him. But if Gwangjong were to kill him…

Wook doesn’t get to hear any of this inner monologue, so he’s left to wonder if she no longer wants to be with him. Su says that isn’t so, prompting Wook to ask for an answer: “Will you marry me?”

Before she can answer, Court Lady Oh intervenes to take the two to task for their secret meeting. If word were to get out, Su would be killed, and Wook would be stripped of his rank and punished. Why do I get the feeling that she’s pro-So?

Once they’re alone, Court Lady Oh asks Su to leave the palace with her while she recuperates from her illness. In reality, she’s known about Su and Wook, and wants to remove Su from what she sees as a dangerous situation.

Su disagrees, saying that Wook asked her to marry him, and she wants to say yes. Court Lady Oh’s disapproval couldn’t be any more clear as she mentions that it simply wouldn’t work with So in play—the two brothers would be at each other’s throats, and she’d be in danger.

Again, Su disagrees. She trusts Wook, and knows he’s not the type to change. At this, Court Lady Oh loses her cool as she says that the palace has a way of changing people, and it’s a place where promises mean nothing. Only now does she tell her that the man she once gave her heart to is now the king of Goryeo, and though they were once lovers, the throne was more important to him.

And she, wanting to stay by his side, resolved to live as his court lady. But tears form in her eyes as she tells Su that while she once addressed the king as her lover, now she’s in charge of bathing the women who will actually be his lovers.

Regardless, Su says that she knows she can trust Wook—as long as he has no ambition for the throne, they can be happy. Court Lady Oh can only sigh, having failed to convince her.

After a night spent brooding over the hairpin So gave her, Su finds So waiting outside her quarters. He’s done a less than admirable job covering his scar, so Su invites him inside in order to help. In voiceover, she says that she’s not afraid of him, nor does she hate him. She just worries about him.

As she applies the makeup over his scar, Su tries explaining that there are different types of affection. Naturally, someone feels affection for another who helps them through a difficult time, but they’d be more inclined to call that person a friend. What she worries about, she claims, is that So might be confusing friendly affection for love.

So takes her hand as he tells her that he doesn’t differentiate between friendship and love—it’s all the same to him. He knows that she’s trying to push him away, but her tactics won’t work on him. As he says this, he grabs her around the waist, pulls her close, and begins to lean in for a kiss…

But Su quickly covers her mouth with her hand. Amused, he tells her not to worry, since he won’t try kissing her without her permission again. Thank goodness for small favors.

Jung finds Su on the palace grounds and explains that he was worried about Su when she went off with So, but she says they only went to see the sunrise. It was fun, even.

She tells him to try thinking of things from his brother’s perspective, since he was never able to receive their mother’s love. Jung just says that his mother and Yo have changed since So came into the palace, and sighs wistfully for the uncomplicated nature of the past. The days that Su spent her days smiling at Wook were their happiest, he claims, and Su agrees.

Wook meets with his mother and Princess Yeonhwa to announce his plans to request the king’s permission to marry Su. He doesn’t want the throne and wishes to live with Su in the Northern city of Hwangju. He may as well have slapped Yeonhwa in the face with the way she reacts, with her spitting that he’d just be leaving her and their mother without protection.

Surprisingly, Queen Sinjeong intervenes to give Wook her permission to follow his heart, though she warns him to be prepared. Once he leaves, Yeonhwa tears into her mother for not stopping him, even though the queen reasons that she’s tired of vying for the throne, and knows that Wook must be too.

Without Wook’s protection as king, Yeonhwa says, they’ll just be pushed out of the palace, or worse. That’s when Yeonhwa declares that she no longer intends to just live as the sister of a king—she’ll become the wife of one, and rule over him.

Queen Sinjeong is powerless to stop her as she goes straight to Queen Sinmyeongsunseong with a “story” to share. We don’t get to hear what it is, but this alliance is probably the last thing anyone needed.

Baek-ah’s heard a new dancer has arrived at the gibang, and goes to see the new girl for himself… only to recognize Woo-hee, the sword dancer from the forest. She grows suspicious when she recognizes him, though he claims he just comes to the gibang to play accompaniment for the gisaeng there.

She’s content to just shoo him away, but Baek-ah says that they should share names now that they’ve met three times. She claims her name is Bok-soon, but her attempt at secrecy is foiled when one of the other gisaeng immediately calls out, “Woo-hee-ya!” Hah.

Queen Sinmyeongsunseong and ninth prince Won meet with minister Park Young-gyu in order to ask his advice on how to separate the king from So. Minister Park says that they’ll have to make the king believe that So is Crown Prince Mu’s enemy, so all the queen needs to do is act like she supports So—he’ll handle the rest.

Won then claims he stole one of the crown prince’s secret documents and gave it to So, that way the crown prince will think So stole it. The queen believes all their preparations are going swimmingly.

Baek-ah pays a visit to So to ask him if it’s true that he took Su out of the palace—and if so, he wants to know what his half-brother is thinking. Since Su is a court lady, there could be severe ramifications for her if she’s caught, and Baek-ah doesn’t want So making things any harder on her.

So says that wasn’t his intention, and confesses that he’s not all that good at relating with others. But he has no intention of making things difficult for her, and when he says that, Baek-ah realizes that his feelings for Su are real. So claps a hand on Baek-ah’s shoulder as he says that he and Su are the only people he truly cares about.

They’re interrupted by Astronomer Choi bearing bad news for Crown Prince Mu—his mother’s family has been accused of embezzling tax money, so the ministers are calling for him to be deposed. The ministers instead want So to be installed as the new crown prince, since he’s been the nation’s hero after the rain ritual.

Ninth prince Won plays his part in the plot by claiming that all of this happened because he told So about the dealings of Mu’s unscrupulous uncle, making it seem as though So was the one who made that letter public. He acts completely innocent, leaving Crown Prince Mu to suspect So.

Seeking to nip this problem in the bud, King Taejo informs So that he’ll be sent back to Shinju. Despite the king knowing that Queen Sinmyeongsunseong’s machinations are the reason that So’s name has been put in for the crown prince position, the only viable solution the king can think of is to send So away.

Princess Yeonhwa, in disguise, orders a court lady to deliver a vial of what’s probably poison to a very specific court lady. (Su, perhaps?) Though Yeonhwa warns the woman not to speak a word of this to Queen Sinmyeongsunseong, it seems the court lady does just that.

So bursts into his mother’s room then to demand answers, though his mother only demurs, claiming that she was just trying to help him get the throne. Isn’t that what he said he wanted?

He tells her to stop pretending like she does anything for his sake, but his mother just smiles at him as she tells him that the crown prince will die from drinking poisoned tea on the ninth day of the ninth month—she’s already delivered the poison, so he can’t stop it now.

So begs to differ, but his mother practically laughs. Even if he tells someone that she delivered the poison, she’ll just claim she did it to make her son king.

“Try to stop it if you can,” she challenges. “But you’ll only be tightening the noose around your own neck.” She manages to stop him when she mentions how the king is trying to drive him out, but if the crown prince dies from poison, So will take his place. One measly court lady will die, and he’ll have everything he wants.

Understandably, So is wary of trusting her, though not wary enough. She bats her eyes at him and claims that she fully supports him and trusts him not to kill his brothers. Dramatic music tells us he’s considering her proposition. No, So! Don’t trust that witch!

Minister Park Young-gyu is called to the gibang to meet with Woo-hee, who pressures him about a rebellion. As the last princess of Baekje (one of the Three Kingdoms, which King Taejo unified into Goryeo), she wants to kill the king, and she threatens to tell the people of Baekje of his treachery should he fail to help her.

He reveals that he’s her uncle by marriage, and all but dares her to make him bend to her will. What power does she have? Woo-hee threatens him with her silver dagger, but when they spot Baek-ah nearby, she acts like a gisaeng fighting off a suitor trying to have his way with her. Her uncle plays along and stalks off.

Baek-ah seems to recognize the minister, but before he can connect the dots, he rushes over to ask Woo-hee if she’s okay. Bitterly, she says that if he was going to see what was happening and not rush in to save her, then he should’ve stuck with that choice. He says it didn’t look like she needed his help and dangles the norigae ornament she dropped in front of her, teasing that it doesn’t seem like she wants it back.

After Wook pays a visit to his late wife’s grave to ask her to watch over him and Su, he joins the royal family in an afternoon of games and general merriment (which so happens to take place on the ninth day of the ninth month). So focuses intently on the crown prince every time he seems about to drink.

The family plays a drinking game based around who can recite stanzas from a famous poem by Zhong Hui, and they motion to the next person who must drink and recite the next part of the poem. But when it’s Jung’s turn, he can’t remember it. Hah.

Queen Sinmyeongsunseong notices that Crown Prince Mu is reluctant to take a drink, which opens an opportunity for the poisoned tea to be delivered instead. The one part of the plan So wasn’t let in on, though, was that Su was to be the doomed court lady delivering the poisoned tea.

Tenth prince Eun and his new wife Soon-deok are late to the party, and end up running into Su as she’s on her way to deliver the tea. Eun’s a bit icy to Su, claiming that he doesn’t want to see her face if he can avoid it. After he storms off, Soon-deok asks Su why she didn’t just take her offer to become Eun’s second wife.

Su admires Soon-deok’s consideration for her husband, and bids her to take care of her husband. Soon-deok gets a little offended at Su’s specific advice, claiming that Eun is her responsibility now.

The tea Su brings to the crown prince is first tested for poison by a silver spoon, but before it arrives, So loses his nerve and prepares to tell the crown prince everything. But once he sees Su and realizes the predicament she’s in, he goes silent.

When he speaks again, he covers smoothly by saying that he’d like for his brother to pour three drinks for him. Princess Yeonhwa looks nervous as the clueless Su takes the tea to So, who then drops the cup. He claims he was just being clumsy, so Su is asked to pour him another, this time in a fresh (and hopefully poison-free) cup.

So drinks the first cup without incident, though he begins to falter before he can drink the second. He covers again, continuing his toast to the prince as he downs the second cup. As Su pours him a third, So sends a look to his decidedly unapologetic mother as he thinks, “It wasn’t the cup, but the tea you poisoned.”

She practically shrugs, leaving So to bear his pain in silence as he takes the third cup from Su and realizes that he’s drinking poison she poured for him. His hand shakes as he takes it, but his toast doesn’t falter. He looks at Su as he brings the cup to his lips, while Princess Yeonhwa looks ready to jump out of her seat.

Because of So’s toasts, the crown prince requests that the king not send him away to Shinju as planned. Su, still clueless, goes to prepare more tea, while So looks after her longingly and tries to control his shaking.

So excuses himself gracefully, but the world around him begins to blur as he starts walking away. All he can do is try to control the symptoms long enough to get out of sight, even as blood trickles from his clenched lips.

 
COMMENTS

Now that’s a noble sacrifice. I admit to being pretty disappointed in So for going along with his mother’s plan on any level, because he should know better by now than to trust her. And for a while there, it seemed like he really did know better, so the only reason I can think of for him to have let himself be fooled was that he truly does desire the throne.

What confuses me is how openly awful Queen Sinmyeongsunseong gets to be without any repercussions whatsoever. I’m honestly surprised that there’s a soul in the palace who isn’t aware of her machinations, which she may as well be announcing from the top of the palace roof, for all the subtlety involved. And yet, even with her explanations, her true motivations aren’t clear—specifically, with what she hoped to accomplish by letting So know about the poisoning. It was clear to us that she was manipulating him yet again, but to what end? I wouldn’t buy that she counted on So drinking the poison himself, but then again, I don’t buy a whole lot when it comes to her.

It’s at least worth noting that So might’ve stopped the poisoning himself by implicating his mother, though he had no choice but to switch tactics when Su arrived. He’s not entirely free of guilt since he tacitly agreed to the poisoning at first, but seeing the way he literally poisoned himself to save the woman he now loves helped erase any lingering feelings of doubt. The fact that he realized the irony in drinking the poison she poured him was doubly sad, because his sacrifice was twofold—and neither party he was saving had any idea that they were even being saved.

Maybe it’s just me being morbid at heart, but So’s sacrifice on Su’s behalf seemed a much more romantic gesture than his unapologetic steamrolling over her feelings from the start of the episode. Even though I do get the steamrolling to a degree, and understand that he’s just not adept at expressing his feelings. He wants so badly to have Su all to himself that he’s missing the essential aspects of actually wooing her, and thinks that if he can possess her, then the only person who’s ever shown him any real affection will stay by his side and continue to support him.

He has a certain amount of self-awareness to know that he’s not the best at being social, but that self-awareness only gets him so far. Although it was funny how clueless he was when Su told him that she liked someone else—enough to think that it was Baek-ah—it’s not so funny when he follows that question up with a threat to kill whoever it is that she likes. And, as he added, to deliberately not be sorry about saying that.

Su’s reactions would be in keeping with a woman who was actually from that time period, but this episode more than ever had me wondering where all of Su’s modern sensibilities went. Even if we take into account that she’s been living in Goryeo for a while and has grown accustomed to life there, her being a time traveler had absolutely zero impact on her actions this episode. It’s not even that I’d like her being from the future to play a bigger role, but it’d be helpful if she spoke up for herself once in a while. Telling So that she liked someone else was a step in the right direction, but then saying nothing to his threats to kill said person felt like we took three steps back. If she’s not afraid of him anymore, what’s preventing her from speaking in her own defense? Or from speaking much at all? I feel like we actually still know just as much about Su as we did starting out, which isn’t that much at all. Here’s hoping that our modern girl will find her voice sooner rather than later.

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That scene between Prince So and his mom was riveting. His micro expressions and her bada** attitude were everything.

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This drama is so much more interesting when it's going into So's mommy issues and set them up as the most twisted adversaries ever.

Forget Wook, Queen Mommy Dearest is the real deal when it comes to epic fights for So. Especially since it has to be entirely done by outmanoeuvring her and can't be settled with a physical fight.

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plus he can't bring himself to actually harm his mother or his brothers (while HS is afraid that he is going to mercilessly slaughter them, oh! the irony)

she on the other hand wouldn't mind if he was dead and out of her plans.

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She is such a nasty woman! I want to see her die the most painful death!

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I didn't think he was convinced (semi or otherwise) to go along with his mother's plan - I thought he felt like she had tied him up so tightly he couldn't make a different move.

Her threat to say she did it for him would mean that she and all her clan would die, so he would probably die, too, even though he would be the person who exposed the plot. 'Going along' would buy him time to think, but even if that wasn't it, I can't hold it against him to be worried about his own neck.

Then, his inner sense of rightousness and duty led him to make a confession knowing full well what would happen, but Su came in and he saw that his exposure of the plot would also condemn HER to death, and that he could not accept.

He thought quickly and broke the cup, believing that would take care of it - which would have been the better first choice, but sometimes in the heat of the moment we are inspired to genius. It didn't occur to me before that.

The only flaw in his quick reaction was that the poison was in the tea, and he understood that pretty quickly, but kept going. To do otherwise would condemn Su.

For me, noble and honorable behavior all the way around.

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ha! It didn't occur to HIM before that.

Well, me either.

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For a moment I thought he was going to break all three cups..

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Same, I couldn't figure it out. I thought he was going to break all the cups, but that might be too dramatic. Then I thought maybe he was trying to make a total of 4 cups instead of 3, as the pot might hold a total of 4 cups-worth and he wanted to finish the tea than risk Moo having even one. And, of course, that he didn't realize it wasn't the cup that was poisoned, but the tea.

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Forget dropping the cups, he should've yelled something along the lines of "ERMAGHERD SPIDER!" and tacked Su right to the ground. Which would hopefully break everything except Su's bones.

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Hahaha. This made me laugh out loud. Someone as silly as I am.

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HA HA HA died laughing at your comment!! Best comment lol!

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That would have been thoroughly delightful! I snort-laughed a little when I read your comment.

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Ha ha ha!!!!! I like that. I actually fell on my chair laughing.

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I thought the palace guard already tested the tea with a silver rod, why was there poison in the tea still?

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Maybe he was in it too.

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Exactly. Why the silver spoon color didn't change when it's dipped to that tea?

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there 2 options
a) the poison is the kind that doesn't have reaction with silver
b) the tester is bribed by the queen or the princess to pass the test

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Another option - the spoon wasn't silver.

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Or we're in the Matrix. There is no spoon.

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Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.

Ok, got it, Maxtrix or not, there really was no spoon, as it looked more like a screwdriver to me. lol

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There is no escaping for Soo...wether its So that is poisoned or the crown prince...poor girl. Poor wangjanim 4th..

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Yes, I also saw it as him being forced to go along until he could find a way to prevent it that didn't result in him and his family dead - because it wouldn't just be mom that would get the axe.. And it doesn't really matter that EVERYONE knows who is the real culprit. It only matters what can be proved. So if the Queen said, no, he did it and changed his mind - then they would probably have to accept that as the truth.

I was actually crying during his speech as he drank the poison, because I really do think it was heartfelt. It was a testament that he was willing to die for both/either his brother and Soo, that he would protect them.

Poor So. He wants to protect everyone.

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Felt the same way. I love the scenes of So vs. Queen SeenmySanitylately, and I love them more when So comes out the winner from them.

As much as I hate Evil Queen Mommy though, her entire attitude, aura, pose in that scene just screamed out BAMF to me. Lol...she knows she's got the upper hand and she was loving it. I don't enjoy her being so one note ("Yo must be King! So sucks! Jung's my baby!") but I get a sort of satisfaction in seeing her luxuriate in all her schemes and plots because it will make her eventual downfall so much sweeter.

I want her to fall even harder now, given what she did to Lady Oh..she probably poisoned her to get her to miscarry and Lady Oh is still suffering to this day. Then she used that to drive Queen Hwangbo and her children from the palace. Kills two birds with one stone, why so clever evil queen?

Of her sons, I think So actually takes after her the most which is definitely both good and bad. Don't go to the Dark Side, So!!

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"Queen SeenmySanitylately" hahahahahhahah

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love that "Queen Seenmysanitylately", now I can easily remember what her name is.. ha!

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Me 3! Her name is so mouthful, your change is thumbs up x 100 :D

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Now it is easy for me to remember her name!! LOL!!! Thanks for that nickname.

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This is turning out to be a great show. I'm loving it.

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I am loving just about everything in this show, too, except for one thing: IU's acting is so appallingly bad. I am so, so tired of her blank, round-eyed stares, her completely immobile face, the lack of any inflection in her voice...what do these guys see in her? She has not only lost her modern sensibilities, she also seems to have lost her humor and what little wits she had.

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thank you! I thought it was just me (or perhaps just IU) but I really am struggling to like So. I believe she's using most, if not all, of the princes and is fully aware of how Su, Wook and Eun feel about her and playing with them. It irritating the crap out of me with each episode.

Regarding IU's acting ability - or lack thereof - the all too often close ups don't help in any way either. It just goes to illuminate the same face, same stare, same dead expression she uses all throughout the show.

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Hi Headsno2 ! Thanks for the fast recap ! Just want to clarify that the pin So gave to Soo is not the same pin he was about to give to his mother :D .

The omma pin was buried along the pile of praying stones (shown in the preview but not in the actual broadcast ).

Notice the previous pin is more of a butterfly design. What Soo gave to So is more of a floral design. ^^

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I noticed that too but wasn't quick enough to comment haha

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Whoopsies. Fixed now. Nobody's perfect!

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It's okay ! I enjoyed your recaps ! \^0^/

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Anyone know what kinda flower it is? Magnolia?? Haha *wishful thinking*

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Seeing those hairpins made me regret not buying the when i was in korea. I planned on buying them,but was turned off on how pricey they were. Haha.

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Next time buy them!!!! They are beautiful...
Hae Soo - Wang So! i ღ you???

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Damn, I'm only on episode 5 and there's so much discussion from the last few episodes! How can I keep up? Time for a marathon!

Anyways, unpopular opinion here but am I the only one who actually likes Eun? I can see why he might be annoying to some, but I actually like how his personality is rather bright compared to the other princes. This is my first saeguk, so I don't know what makes one, but I prefer having a balance of lighthearted and heavy moments in my drama and he brings plenty of it along with Jung. Just my two cents!

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i didn't mind him initially too ... but keep watching and by the time you are on episode 10, everytime he is on screen all you will scream is - stop stealing time from LJK!

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@Bips99

Don't worry. According to Haesoo's premonition, our Wang So will slay him, too bad not with the flyswatter.

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Can a fly swatter time travel? we could send one

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Yes. I don't even know what's the purpose of Eun's arc in the main story.

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I kind of feel like Eun has more screentime than other worthy characters like Jung and Baek Ah. He is just annoying, I wish they would omit out all of his scenes.

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I was literally flying high watching episode 10. Could it be, an episode without Eun and his annoying whines? But alas, he had to pop up at about 3/4ths of the episode. To be honest though, I was pretty vicious toward the other princes too, stop stealing airtime from Wang So!!! But I have to say that I can tolerate Baek-Ah's Wang So-less scenes now, since Wang So likes him the best.

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I love Eun and his scenes in both this episode and the last were stellar. I really enjoyed the Eun/Su angst, because it was such a contrast to their relationship before, and I think these scenes in particular were written and acted well. This episode was especially great in showing us how deeply Eun was affected by Su, that he seemed completely unlike himself and you could see his expression changing from happiness to longing to heartbreak when he saw her and remembered again that he could no longer be with her and that she'd never loved him. I like them in general, but IU and Baekhyun have surprisingly great chemistry. Now that they're not so campy, and there's so much unsaid, I'm really looking forward to their scenes.

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Here here @Zoe. I know we're in the minority, but I haven't minded Eun for the last few episodes either. Its a mix of his screen time being down to manageable levels, and also the fact that to my untrained eyes, Baekhyun's actually improving in his acting?

I too could see the emotions flickering through his eyes when he saw Hae Su and how sad he was when she didn't react to him as she always did..when he told her to turn away and never show her face to him again, and she simply and dutifully complied I must admit I wanted to hug them both a little bit because their friendship really was cute and light and a perfect representation of most of the the first part of Su's life in Goryeo.

The only one she still acts the same with with now..as far as we've seen..is Jung. I want more Su-Baek Ah scenes..I need to know that friendship hasn't gone topsy turvy too!

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I agree with everything y'all said. And I do agree that Baekhyun's acting has been improving ever so slightly with approximately each ep--approximately since they didn't exactly film the episodes in chronological order so Baekhyun's acting flunctuates a bit but does move in a positive direction a little if you look at the overall result.

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Thanks HeadsNo2!!

The kiss scene... I liked So's response to Su's displeasure.. he stopped and didn't get angry, but running away to the beach... felt weird, but I guess that is how out of sorts So felt. The conversation they had was truthful and right. I wished more emotion from So though. The close ups on So and Su were just too much this episode. Finally too much.

The beach and return to the palace scenes squashed the wishful scenario of So and Su coming together sooner rather than later. I had hoped by now the affection would have been less one sided, but obviously not. I still feel the amazing chemistry between Wook and Su. The emotions on Kang Haneul's face.. keep blowing me away. His promise to not let Su go again.. wowzers!

Just when the story gets going, pivot to the 10th Prince and his wife and me yelling at my TV screen, WHY WHY WHY WHY???!! Needless, useless, boring waste of screen time. Please move past Baekhyun already. Pls I beg..

Wook and Hae Soo's conversation.. Wook is sincere in his feelings and intentions, which just endears him even more. I don't want to see Wook turn. He really likes Hae Soo and she is comfortable with him and trusts him. They may just like who they are and how they feel when in each other's company. Not really love but infatuation. Still the heat from both cannot be denied.

I was proud of Wook for letting his Mother know his plans, but stupid to let his greedy sister know as well.

Su trying to explain to So that what he was feeling isn't love but friendship was as So pointed out, Su pushing him away. So displays again how keenly he understands Su.. except for her love for Wook. He still doesn't know?

So getting hurt again. By his Father and dear Brother. The people he has shown nothing but loyalty to.. ready to discard him like trash.. his mother's words do ring a little true now. I liked that So stood up to his father stating even against his feelings the king would send him back? The king only concerned with the crown Prince's happiness and future. So is to be exiled again through no fault of his own.

The drinking scenes were my favorite part of this episode. I loved LJK's acting, breaking my heart over and over again. Watching So struggle and drink the poison knowing his mother in the end was willing to let him die while he tried to save the Crown Prince and Su. He told his truth while essentially dying in front of his family. Everyone except for Baek ah who think badly of him and in front of the girl he loves and may never get to see again. The looks he gives Su while drinking the poison. hurt.. really hurt to watch. Can you blame a guy for maybe going crazy after all this?

I hope episode 11 moves fast and has more action. Less wasted time like the 10th Prince scenes.

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i'm with you. i replayed that scene over and over, with and without subtitle (has more impact when i don't even understand what he's saying, it's all in the eyes.)

wang so and his mother turn out to be the best enemies in this drama so far. everyone else pales in comparison.

but i could kick soo and crown prince's respective butts! couldn't they see what was going on in front of them? it's not like wang so and his mother were eyeing each other subtly! stop the man drinking his poison quietly, dammit. have you no hearts?!

ah, this show...

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Soo cannot do anything, she's a court lady. She would be whipped (not that it's not going to happen anyway). Crown Prince's scared, because he was in the verge of losing his position. I mean look at the way he reacted to a lot of the scene that had been happening, like when Eun ask for So's unmasked face. Mu just stay silent and then blasted Eun and Yo after. If he is a stronger character he would blasted Eun that time and then. So it is predictable for him not to do anything. Plus he's probably engrossed in paying attention to the king's reaction on So's toast. So is the only worthy ally in the palace for him so for the king to be impressed by So was a big deal for him (egotistically).

I have a respond on Soo being the modern girl. In the first episode it's was clear that Soo is an unconfrontional girl when it comes to relationship. She is very outspoken when it wasn't anything related to love, but when that variable got injected, she was suddenly a deer in the headlight. In a way, her reaction although irksome it is also predictable.

Wook, oh Wook. Karma boy, karma. Sorry, eventhough Wook had been a gentleman through and through, he was "cheating" on her wife, and to always talk about Soo in front of Lady Hae. What assurance can he give if a younger more cheerful girl come when Hae Soo is in Lady Hae's shoe? From the little scene we had of Lady Hae's youth, she was similar to Hae Soo. Wook was also always one step behind. In a world of political cutthroat, he didn't claim his way faster enough. For a lack of better word, he's too safe. If I were him and my eye candy was surrounded by a bunch of other qualified prince and older too, I'll swoop her up asap without telling my own sister. Duh, he should know how ambitious YueHwa is.

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Ah, I got cut off. So I agree with Puni about Wook and YeoHwa.

HeadsNo2 I agree with you. Prince So, you need to brush up on your wooing skills. Your action made us weak on our knees but your words, dude. Sheesh louise, such a contradiction. You were so good with talking to other guys yet to the girl of your dream you were a mess (ha! he is a mess). I'm laughing cuz he's playing that toddler game, "If he pull your hair, he likes you." or in this case if he threatened you he loves you. PFFT!! NOT WORKING DUDE!

There's a good reason why the king wants to toss him out, and Yo too. it's because of their mom. Can't blame the king for that. Blame mommy dearest who was amused on the possible death of her own son. Hey, lady, do you know what intentional parenting is?

And yes Shelly, they both so far had the best acting in the drama. BRAVO!

I have a theory, maybe the reason why So didn't even count the rest of the prince to be his competition except Baek ah is because Baek Ah is the only one he consider worthy due to their own relationship. And remember, YeonHwa and him might have a young romance once upon a time, so for Wook to say his sister and Hae Soo's off limits, So might misinterpret it as "Oh hell no you are not touching any of mine every again, you reject."

What do you guys think?

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if anyone (wook included) tells so he can't have something (girls included), he'd be all "challenge accepted!"
actually he already is. once he's not obsessing over his scar, he's a go-getter. considering how people (still) treat him as if he was the expendable one, i don't wonder why he'd turn into a kill-now-talk-later emperor. so far he thinks he loves soo (who showed him kindness when he was all alone) and he's friends with baek-ah (who seems to hero-worship him for some reason, not that i blame him), and those are the only people he's actually civil to and are civil to him back (except for when soo is hysterically calling him a killer for something still in the future).

upon the 20est or so replay of the drinking poison scene, i'm seeing mu's expression differently, it's almost like he knows there's poison somewhere, and he knows what so is about, but he's still bitter about the perceived thread from so and he's actually pushing him on to drink up. he's changing on the fly so fast, that mu. i guess his position is unenviable and his skin condition might be giving him the fear he won't be considered suitable, plus he was never popular (so became everyone's darling after the rain ritual.) maybe mu is jealous and ready to believe everything bad about so.

if that's the case, well dude, you fail hard at being a good CP and brother, letting your little brother take the fall when he's always been supportive so far. and btw, mu's star is wavering, i guess he's going to go soon anyway.

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So's mom is the worst mother ever, even in kdramaland!

So only cares about Baek Ah. If BA is the one Su is in love with, So would have backed off coz he doesn't want to cause any harm to BA. At this point, BA is the only one he considers his brother and friend. If it's any one of his brothers, So wouldn't care and is ready to kill them for Su's affections. That's what I understood.

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"What assurance can he give if a younger more cheerful girl come when Hae Soo is in Lady Hae’s shoe? From the little scene we had of Lady Hae’s youth, she was similar to Hae Soo. "

Well put.
Just recently I read some article about the end of a relationship which started by cheating, so this comment just kind of strikes me inside. Though sincerely I was hoping that the circle will stop.

But KHN, good job, cutie.

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"...It's all in the eyes"

I second this. His eyes say everything.

One of the reason I don't really like extreme close-up shots is because it makes it's hard to read subtitle while observing the actors' expression especially on the eyes part.

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out of curiosity tho..why is Yeon Hwa aiming for a queen's role (wife of the future king) when the princes are all his brothers. Particularly So, she's interested in him. Yo seems interested in Yeon Hwa too. (I have watched only a few historical Kdramas, so I don't understand this type of conflicts)

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*HER brothers.

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Because the different prince's clans are vying with each other to put their own crown prince on the throne. Yeon-hwa is probably the most practical character here. She said in a previous ep that she has two ways to survive: put her brother Wook on the throne or marry the future King (that's why she's playing both Yo and So).

Any other option (being sister to a non-crown prince, being married to a random prince) will lead to a weakening of her family's power. She'll become a lamb for slaughter once things get messy in the grab for the throne.

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Her father once said that she would make a great king if she was born a man. She's got what it takes and the closest she would ever get to the throne is to become the (first) wife and future queen.
That'd ensure her protection and her family.

I wouldn't frown upon a girl who wants to survive in this brutal world ruled by men.

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she's very fast in action too.. just say only and start her plans against crown prince and working with the evil queen..

i dont get the part where she tell the maid to keep it a secret from queen.. but of course the maid blabber everything to the queen after.. was it the part on the maid to serve the tea being HS?

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yes, it's okay in this period

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Yeah,we minght not understand with our modern mindset but it was something normal at that time and in royal families,that was what made the royal familes stronger as the throne remained between them yet weak in the same way(the ilness that killed the kids etc)

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The development of Soo&So's relationship is just taking so long here..I mean I love watching LJK's progression, but there is like nothing on the romantic front from Soo.. I thought the feelings wouldn't be so one sided by now, as well.. Also hoping the next ep gives them a boost.

The close ups finally got to me this eps too and don't even get me started on that bgm for the beach scene on the DF version..the rapping..good god.

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I was alone and I still covered my ears in embarrassment at the rapping. And I like rap! I then watched the raw SBS version despite my weak Korean language skills and the edited version of that scene was beautiful. Short but beautiful.

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I cried when i Su was drinking the poison and said SOO was pouring poison for him. It's like two fold, will Soo be the reason he kills everyone?

The two Moons made me so sad.

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Wang So / Hae Soo ??

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"They [Wook and Soo] may just like who they are and how they feel when in each other’s company. Not really love but infatuation. Still the heat from both cannot be denied."

I keep reading statements like this and find them baffling. Not sure what I'm missing but, seriously, why is it so hard for people to accept that Wook and Soo genuinely love each other? It's not infatuation. It's not depicted that way. I really don't get the denial. In the same way, So genuinely, innocently, yet obsessively loves Soo. It's simple and it takes nothing away from either ship, whichever you're on. In fact, I think it will make the coming 'turn of fate' between these three that much more hard-hitting.

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I agree with you. So and Soo are the main leads here and these two falling in love with each other was already expected even before this drama started. Even I couldn't believe myself that I learned to appreciate and love the relationship development between Wook and Soo though I knew they'll never end up together.

And now I'm ready to see and appreciate the development between So and Soo. Others might think I'm crazy. Maybe I am. But who can blame me if I just wanted to see "Love" in two different ways. No need to say So loves Soo more than Wook does or vice versa. We just need to be open-minded and try to understand their own ways of loving and the situations happening around them that lead them to certain actions and decisions.

Let's not hate Wook if we're #SoSoo shippers or hate So if we're #WookSoo shippers.

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To be honest, i don't see much of a difference between WookSoo and SoSoo. From what i observed, Wook started taking interest in her when she kept assuring him not to worry because she can take care of herself. Wook has a lot of pressure on himself to keep his family safe. In fact he married Lady Hae to elevate their status and now that she's gone, they have little to no insurance. Hae Soo is probably the first person not coming to him with her problems so its like a relief for him. Its like he finally has someone to lean on. Which just seems similar to So falling for Hae Soo because she showed him kindness. Not to take away from their romance or anything because the chemistry is still there but the way he fell in love doesn't seem all that different.

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I just wanted to say real quick that its was not the same hair pin, the hair pin for his mom was a butterfly with a dangling pink bead. The hair pin he gives sure is red and white. I noticed in the recap you called it the same pin but its a different one.

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So it was not a sacrifice. It was a mistake that Wang So drank that poison. I wonder though if Queen Yoo purposely misinformed So.

Speculations are Lady Oh will take the fall and die to save HaeSoo. Although i have a strong feeling that it is possible. . I just hope and pray that it won't. It's heartbreaking and i don't think i can bear to watch it.

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Oooppps Sorry. This should be fresh comment.

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It's a 70% possibility that Lady Oh will take the fall. One she already very protective of Hae Soo as a stern older sister. Second, she's sick, most probably was poisoned once upon a time by Evil Queen. Sigh. From the preview, it looks like Hae Soo will be begging in rain for Lady Oh's life and shielded from it by Wang So, mirroring the original drama by 4th Prince.

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Three cheers for Lady Oh if this is how she spends her last few scenes. I really like her and her and Su as a unit. She's such a steadfast presence for Su, more so than Wook. Their mentor-student relationship seems to be one of the more healthy and communicative relationships flying around the palace. Alas, if she goes, who will be our voice of reason? Who will speak some sense into Su for us? Don't we, the viewers, deserve a champion who will shake Su's shoulders for us?

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I agree that Lady Oh is such a good mentor for Su and cares for her a great deal. She is strict but that is to teach Su to become better. I will be sorry to see her go. It seems like she is going to take the fall for Su.

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human relations were / are / will be important for all eras. our goals are not only determined by logical reasons, emotions play an important role too. she is able to change those feelings that are in contact with her- therefore she will be important.

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Because Soo is one thing that they all want.

Wook : Someone that is true to herself.

Lady Hae : best friend that she would never had.

CP : A person that truly wants to help without any agenda.

Baek Ah : A friend that understand the loss of love.

Jung : a family that protected and respect him, not just for convenience.

Ji mong : A vehicle to keep the motor going (I'm sorry but he is jaded no matter how nice he is)

Lady Oh : A daughter she would never had that coincidentally experience what she did.

So : Well, you know that kid in school that always get bullied, and you stand up for them and they become obsessed in you. Yeah that's him.

She's just doing the right (or wrong considering the era) move to be the fave.

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i think its still down to her modern personality and mindset, her selfless, caring and no scheme.. she is being true to everyone with no ulterior motive

they have been living in the palace or fighting to live all these time.. cant even fully able to trust anyone to watch on their backs, or even let their guard down.. not even their own closest.. they'd probably turn a blind eye if its anyone else..

and here come Su someone who just so extraordinary n different.. thats why she worth saving haha

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I had a different take on the poisoning scene, he was not going along with his mothers plan. He literally jumped every time the crown prince raised his cup, he was trying to figure out how to stop it and thought he had when he destroyed the cup that he thought was poisoned. His mother was correct when she said he couldn't just jump up and say my mom did it, if he did his whole family would be punished, his mom, jung and him. His mom played him because she knows he wouldn't want to hurt anyone. The king also knows of her plots, he just doesn't call her on it. He's already said I know Yo wants the throne and his mom tries to kill the prince. I'm sure for political reasons he doesn't punish her since her plans usually fail. I also don't think the queen was totally unaffected by So drinking the poison, her facial expressions are constantly changing during that scene, at first she is shocked, you can see a twinge of regret, I think she honestly didn't think he would drink it, but after each cup she knew his fate was sealed. I think thats a scene that must be watched and not read both Jun Ki and the actress who plays his mom was brilliant in conveying different emotions with just the face.

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i think the queen's family is very important, or at least more important than the crown prince's family. so the king wouldn't want to stir them against the CP when there are already all those complaints of how he's not fit to be a CP (yo keeps insulting him at every chance.)

i don't think the queen was particularly affected by so taking the poison. more like counting the odds he'd fall in front of them and reveal he'd been poisoned with something that should've been taken by the CP. but on the long run, she doesn't need/want wang so anyway, and my bet is, by now she's counted her chickens and accepted that the CP escaped, but wang so will be soon gone, so it's a win-win anyway.

but the king, oh the king... no wonder wang so can't trust anyone. taejo gave so a finger and now he's pulling it back already, all because of appearances. does no one really love him? (except baek-ah, who seems to genuinely like him, til proven otherwise.)

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I also want to add to that comment, the queen's family might be important because the king was appointed by several military general (or someone high in military rank), so most probably he climb up to the throne by marrying one of his ally's daughter. Getting rid of her would spell disaster for him.

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Oh and Baek Ah, if the Korean version follow the novel and the Chinese version, Baek Ah will stay and become Wang So's trusted advisor/confidante until the end.

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Taejo's queens are like switched around in this drama, it's kind of hard to remember who did what.
Taejo was already a highly respected commander and in a position of great power (king's right hand man) before he married his future queens.

Politics as usual. Political marriages benefit both parties. He gets their help and their loyalty and vice versa.
If he wasn't already powerful, I don't think Chungju's Chieftain, Lord Yoo would've given him his daughter or put their lives on the line to help him with his expedition.

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I definitely think that So's mother belongs to a powerful clan as well. It's honestly the best and most logical reason as to why she's never been thoroughly punished for her misdeeds and plotting and why she can keep her position as the king's head wife. The details aren't obviously stated, but there's enough evidence to strongly suggest it.

After all, there's no way she could even legitimately fight to have one of her sons to be on the throne if she didn't belong to a strong clan. The way Yo publicly shamed Baek Ah clearly shows that his clan is in the position to look down upon others, and to add to that, we can see how Baek Ah is in no position to be considered for the throne because his mother belongs to a fallen kingdom. A king without the loyalty of a powerful clan is obviously in a poor position, which is why, illness aside, the Crown Prince is in such a precarious spot.

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she got her eyes and people everywhere.. her power is probably second to the king..

look at the number of supporters she had in court.. all the officers except for a few are on her side and support whatever motion she's behind..

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I agree! I never thought So went along with his mother's plan. It's just that her logic pretty much covered all the bases. We saw in the ep where the king finds out about the temple massacre that So just does not have a knack for politics (yet). Sometimes his thinking is very simple, and it broke my heart went his father said that being relentlessly abused in the palace will chip away his sincerity. In the poison tea scene, I think he was just trying to find a way to spoil the plan, and when Soo appeared with the tea, he went with his heart.
The director's gratuitous use of VERY CLOSE SHOTS can be awful, but it certainly highlights the acting. There are times when I don't catch certain details until the third or fourth watch (or if someone else mentions it first). In this case, I appreciate LJK and KH so so much more because of this. The little Korean that I pick up from watching dramas only get me so far. I watched this ep raw, and started tearing up when So paused before taking the second cup. I KNEW he was detecting the poison.

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I love what you said "when Soo appeared with the tea... He went with his heart" ... how interesting that a character judged by the other characters in this drama as "beastly" and "killer" can do a most noble act of dying for one's beloved... it speaks so much of how love can really show the true character of a person or more like finally reveal them...

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I thought that when So proposed the drinking game it was his attempt to save the Crown Prince. I also think he had a faint hope that his mother would do something to stop him from drinking the poisoned tea. I also think he was wondering a bit if Su was in on the poisoning since he kept looking at her, though maybe that was more about wondering if it was the last time he was going to see her.

I am confused why some of you are saying that by drinking the poisoned tea So was trying to save Su. A prince is a prince. Why would it matter if the tea poisons the Crown Prince or Prince So? Either way the serving girl is going to be executed for the crime.

I loved watching the close-ups of Lee Junki all through this episode. His face is so expressive. I love him in this role.

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Yes, Lee Junki deserves all the close ups.

As for So drinking the tea to save Su, he was hoping to get out of there without anyone noticing him being poisoned, thus saving Su from censure. So as Heads pointed out, it was a double sacrifice on his part; protecting the crown prince and saving the woman he loved.

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This confused me too but I think it was as follows:

So was about to tell Mu about the poison.

But Su came in with the tea and he knew she would die if he told - she would be implicated in the plot.

Instead, he acted quickly by dropping the cup on the ground. This is because the Queen had said it was in the cup. Now the cup was destroyed, he thought, so neither Mu or Su were in danger.

He had already proposed the three toasts, however, so he went through with them. By the second cup, he knew the poison was in the teapot, not the cup, as it started to take effect.

Once he realized what was happening, the only thing he might be able to do to save Su was to finish the toasts and walk out of there before the poison began working and try some kind of cover-up before dying.

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That's exactly what happened.

By continuing to drink that tea, he demonstrated his love for Soo and his loyalty to the Crown Prince. That moment was So at his best. It was so sad that neither Soo nor the Crown Prince truly understood his heart in that moment. It was heartbreaking to watch.

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Evil queen never said it's in the cup. She merely said CP will drink the poison and a measly court lady will die.

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Based on the translation in the version I watched she said the cup was poisoned.

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Ugh my heart.

DAMNNNN.

And do I need to add that his acting was out of this world in this scene? This scene was undoubtedly Lee Jun Ki’s and Lee Jun Ki’s alone.

Also, special mention to how they filmed it in one long take and the skillful use of focus; it increased the impact of the scene and also made the audience feel a bit like Wang So, who was beginning to become slightly disoriented from the poison. The suspenseful bgm that always appears with the epic Wang So moments helped greatly to create the atmosphere too.

This scene is just so disconcerting in many ways. When the episode ends, one has to go and take a breather because the heaviness weighs greatly on the heart.

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I re-watched that scene and drew similar conclusion as you, though the queen's expressions were a bit confusing to me at times. I looked at her and I thought I saw guilt, but then I wasn't quite sure if it was truly guilt or just her being taken aback that So decided to drink the poison himself. But then, she didn't seem particularly happy for the rest of the scene, aside from when So looked at her and she smiled.
I don't know... I think, during that particular moment, she merely acted the way she usually was to So to cover up that she was really concerned. I don't know just how much that concern was, but the sight of her son (no matter how much she dislikes him) consciously drinking three cups of poisoned tea which he thought put inside by her, ready to die, must've pulled at her heartstrings a little.

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I noticed that too! Also the pins are way shorter than the butterfly one. Though I think this one is a lot prettier than the butterfly one. xD

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WHAT IS GOING ON?! First So makes me mad with his heavy handed, completely bulldozer-y, anger inducing attempts at wooing Soo. Then he makes me feel this severe pity. Gah! (I love you Lee Jun-ki <3)

Where is the antidote.. I am assuming there is an antidote handy, cause the lead cant die in Ep 10...

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maybe jimong can help. also, wang so didn't drink all the tea so maybe the dose wasn't enough... maybe lady oh can help, she's known for it, isn't she?

i hope this doesn't mean very little LJK in the next few eps, while he recuperates!

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I honestly think that his heavy handedness is in line with the times the show is set in ... Its goryeo and he is a prince ...

i don't really think much of the death threats because he seems to be uttering them all the time to everyone and doesn't actually do anything ... If he wants to kill, that will be the time he won't threaten and just do it

And i did like that it got through his brain that she was not receptive of being kissed ... like all of us were up in arms about the forced kiss .. but he realised that she was being forced after he saw her crying and clenching her fists. before that i think he was too desperate/shocked to notice her reluctance

But the last scene ... like you said - Gah!!!! .. the look he gave her when she was leaving, like its the last time he was ever going to see her and he just wanted to watch her ... gah! gah! gah!

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Gah! Gah! Gah! >. <

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The last scenes of this episode were so (I don't have a word to say; so) Gah!!! I loved how he was looking at her when he drank the last cup. And also when she was leaving. It's like he was fixating her face in his mind before dying. She was the last person he wanted to remember.

LJK acted amazingly to portray the effects of the poison. I don't know how he made the veins on his neck show.

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Hahaha you might be right about the death threats that it has lost it's power to scare us coz ever since he met Soo he is always threatening her and he even smiled after saying this one... maybe Soo thought that the threat doesn't even warrant a reply due to always hearing them hehe....

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"i don’t really think much of the death threats because he seems to be uttering them all the time to everyone and doesn’t actually do anything … If he wants to kill, that will be the time he won’t threaten and just do it"

^^^ I agree. It's just his way of expressing his opinion plus he's really socially inept due to lack of experience. (given that type of environment he was thrown into, I wouldn't blame him)

That one time he killed, he didn't even make any death threats. Just "Who did this!" and slaughter ensued. Even when he stabbed the monk, he just told the monk that since he lived for the queen, he would die for the queen. Not exactly a death threat per se.

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Hmm, at the risk of making this more of a mystery than it really is, is an antidote even needed? Some of this just doesn't make sense to me from the point of view of Queen Yoo.

There are at least three, possibly four plots here:

One is Queen Yoo asking Park whathis name and Won to separate So from Mu and for So to lose the king's trust, sending him back to Shinju. That plot worked very successfully.

The second is Yeon Hwa's meeting with Queen Yoo and some kind of plan there. She was probably proposing she marry So, and that So would gain the support of her own (wook's) family in a claim on the throne. This seems the most plausible, and I could see Queen Yoo agreeing to it outwardly, but would she really do it unless all hope of Yo succeeding were lost?

The third plot is also Yeon Hwa's. Now that she has Queen Yoo's ostensible support for a marriage to So and assistance to make him king, it's time to poison the Crown Prince. She wants no one to know about this, including the Queen, because asking for support and the marriage is one thing, a plan to murder the CP is another.

The fourth plot, I think, if there is one, is Queen Yoo's, and it is predicated on my belief that So is only a last resort for her for king. The last thing she would want, therefore, is for the Crown Prince to die while Yo is out of the capital and So is being favored by the ministers.

That means that she might have switched out the poison for something weaker, something that would not show up on the poison test spoon, and that would make So sick but explains why he doesn't in fact die while gulping down three cups of the stuff.

It also explains why she told So what she did, as a test, but also if he does in fact tell, the blame doesn't fall on her but on the person who did in fact instigate the plot, Yeon Hwa, her rival's daughter, and Hae Soo and Damiwon, who she's already said she hates. She can always say he's lying and in cahoots with Yeon Hwa, and Yeon Hwa will corroborate with a bit of torture, and the maidservants, etc., can corroborate too.

Moreover, right in this episode, we've been told she's already done something like this before - had all the blame attach to Yeon Hwa's mother when a court lady miscarried because of poison ten years ago.

It also explains her expressions throughout the poisoning scene. She doesn't look too worried when So looks like he's going to confess. She doesn't even look too worried when So drops the cup.

But when he starts to drink the poisoned tea, a look of strain crosses her face. I don't think she's worried about him - there's not enough to actually kill him anyway if I've guessed right - but because he's drinking the poison the king and Mu will trust him again and therefore her already successful plot one above has just been destroyed.

Conjecture, but plausible I think.

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Wow. All I can say is if you can follow all those conflicting plans and juggle everyone's twisted motivations successfully then you were probably Queen Sinmyeongsunseong in your past life. (Minus the evility, of course.)

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Woah, thanks for explaining all this, Barbrey! I appreciate it. Your explanation makes good sense to me.

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Nice!

I like theory #4. It makes sense if Mean Princess was acting on the poison plot on her own, but somehow Queen SMS got to know about it through her network of loyal palace maids and then decided to ride on Mean Princess' actions for her own purposes. It would explain the scene where Yeon Hwa told the palace maid not to divulge the poison plot to Queen SMS.

That said, I wonder if we're giving the writers too much credit. They haven't developed the palace intrigues and politics with much finesse or subtlety. Much of what's transpired has been signposted with fairly large degree of predictability, sadly.

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Ha! I agree. I love this theory, because I'm a mystery writer myself so I think in terms like these ones, but I often do give kdrama writers too much credit, and the politics haven't developed much yet. It just makes sense to me based on everything we saw, but that doesn't mean it will pan out. We will see!

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Oh I thought Queen Yoo and Yeon-hwa were both in the tea poisoning plot since the queen wants CP to be dead since the beginning and Yeon-hwa just told the palace maid to have Su delivering the tea (basically killing two birds with one stone) and not tell Queen Yoo about it.

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That's interesting and would blot out the whole 4th plot conjecture. For me, my understanding was that Yeon Hwa didn't tell the queen about the poisoning at all.

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I think they conspire on the poison, but Yeon Hwa made sure that Hae Soo is the one that serve it without telling the Evil queen, but the court lady betrayed Yeon Hwa and tell the Evil queen so mommy dearest challenge So to save Mu, without telling who is the "measly" court lady. It's a failproof behind a failproof.

1st failproof is for So to sacrifice the whole clan "See if you do it, Son."

2nd failproof is if the court lady got caught, it's Yeon Hwa's fault, not hers.

BAM! Most probably Yeon Hwa is going to copy most of Evil queen's move when she ascend to become queen.

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Mad applause!

I really do think her telling So abt the plot has a deeper meaning. Since distrust has been stirred between Mu and So, if So comes out and reveals the plot, suspicion would fall on him solely since no one would believe that the Queen SMSS would truly collab with him given how she's been treating him. That would paint So as the sole perpetrator and also conveniently get rid of both So (who will be punished for assassination) and Mu (who will get poisoned) at once. But if he doesn't, Mu will die and suspicion will still fall on So since the ministers under Yoo have been stirring the pot and pretending to favour So.

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The poisoning scene was so endlessly sad. Lee Jun Ki melted my frozen heart with his little smiles. Geez.

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I'm a little bit frustrated by the fact that the best scenes in the drama always have Lee Jun Ki (not really), except that I still have to watch Soo being incredibly frustrating. I'm at the point where this whole series would be more interesting without her (and definitely without Wook).

I just feel so frustrated, like 'what is the point of you, Soo?' Argh. Why can't I like you more? She's just there. Let her be more interesting, savvy, intelligent or at least show that she understands more about the politics of the court. She's basically just waiting for Wook to take her away.

Just give me everyone (including Queen SMS and YH) but no Soo (pinin over Wook) and no Wook pining over Soo. Wook is just all talk no action. I practically scoff whenever he comforts Soo with talk of them being together.

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Just to be clear I love LJK, and would like every scene to have him in it. Because he is magnetic. The tea scene was so, so good.

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agree with you on everything! Soo is all inaction. Wook is an okay character except I know his ship with Soo ends up nowhere and I ready for it to go down and for the story to move on. That tea scene... Had epic acting from LJK I feel the need to rewatch it again.

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It was phenomenal acting!

Anyway, I was waiting for the whole episode just to see Lee Junki spit blood. BUT it didnt't happen. Not yet.

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The way the veins in his neck bulged as he grimaces and his mouth twists while he attempts to make a graceful exit...it doesn't help that Yeonhwa is looking on in horror and half of the party attenders are in on the plot/counterplot and NO ONE is saying anything. All for their own benefit, but that's the tragedy of this whole drama, isn't it?

But man, So just willingly sacrificed himself…he has such a big heart and the world did not hesitate to trample upon it.

Lee Jun Ki sells the tragedy of this character. He is so good that he even sells the tragedy of the dysfunctionality of the royal family and the shallowness of society.

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Lola, would you prefer Wang So and Wang Wook pining over each other?? :D It would be good for the wounded beast to be taken care by the gentle loving soul. (Have you seen their bromance of screen?)

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Pwah! I'd rather more brotherly bonding moments between So/Baek Ah and So/Mu.

Wook, well he just seems so powerless and ineffectual. Even in his own home his sister is the boss.

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Well, apparently the official weibo account for Moon Lovers released a vid edited to look like some BrOTP story between So and Wook...

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Because of the similar setup I can't help but compare this drama to Faith.

Faith has it's own flaws but at least the female lead seemed more like her own person, she wasn't there just for the male characters to emote at and have feelings for.

Soo is very close to failing the Sexy Lamp test.

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The beach scene would have been nice but the background music threw me off. Couldn't another track been used. Why is the 10th prince getting so much scenes?

Lee Jun Ki slayed this episode though. Makes me wonder why I never gave his other dramas post My girl a try. He seems to be like one of those few actors that can do sageuks really well.

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IKR! should have use instrumental all the way for the beach scene, I just couldn't handle the rapping when I was expecting so soft, sad melody or something, had to mute that part

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Oh god yes, the music in that scene. Seriously is there some kind of PPL-like 'must be used X times an episode' clause when it comes to the music too? It's distractingly modern, and not in a way that enhances anything about the story or style.

I mean, this drama has some perfectly lovely instrumental scores, would it have killed the editors to use more of those instead of distracting us with random third voices in the middle of a scene that should be only about So and Su?

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thank god YG never do promotion that they provide the OST for the drama..if not, there will be more additional bashing adding to his endless criticism LOL

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Maybe they recorded the songs thinking, "oh! These will do great on the music charts!" But then forgot they had to pair it with the drama? I imagine the sound editing process was a drinking game that included a russian roulette of songs, except no one won. Also, they STILL haven't credited that one song they used for Lady Hae's death and funeral which irks me to no end.

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I think they heard your complaint. I found the song used for Lady Hae's death on youtube, just published today.
Just search for Sun Hae Im-Will Be Back.

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REJOICE *cries bloody tears of joy.

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THAT SONG OF DEATH.

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Yep, he can really act and can do Sageuk very, very well. That pretty face is a plus. ? Try watching his other shows, you won't be disappointed if your watching only for him. In my opinion, he carried SWWTN all by himself.

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LJK never let me down. But I pity him because he has been burdened with the task of carrying the shows consecutively. It's like the task may be even specified in his contract. SWWTN was only worth watching because of him.

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I think Mukadil and So-eun deserve some love for Scholar too. :D

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Re. Background music.

For the first time ever in my 10-year Kdrama watching experience, I was intrigued enough to follow an episode live.

So at 9 pm last night, I got comfortable on my couch and switched on my telly (my country was showing the international version).

Five minutes into the episode, the beach scene happened, and the rapping came on. I love Epik High and adore Tablo, but no way was I going to stand for rapping in such an emotional scene. Switched off the telly and waited 12 hours for the subbed SBS version.

Needless to say, I've learnt my lesson and will be doing that from here on out.

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"The beach scene would have been nice...." Huh?

Aside from how jarring and out of place it was from a directing and music viewpoint, am I the only one who found the beach scene chilling?!

Even more than when he killed the monks and burned them in the temple, this scene quietly showed me that So is an obsessive, deeply dangerous man. It's a part of his broken, damaged soul. It's in his character, just waiting for a trigger.

So many are brushing off his threat to kill whoever Soo likes as just words but does So ever say anything he doesn't mean?

As he himself pointed out, when she was being beaten and he told her she belonged to him, he meant every word. He also reminded her that he meant it when he warned her to prepare herself because he was going to make her his...he took action by asking the king for her. And he means it when he says he'll kill whoever has her affection. I want to believe he wouldn't actually kill, but there's no doubt that he's capable, and that such a person would become his sworn enemy.

Soo knows his threat is real and I believe that's why she agreed to go back to the palace with him instead of with Wook and Jung. It seemed like she didn't want So to catch on that Wook was her love interest. She was trying to protect Wook.

So wants to be good, he's trying hard, especially because of Soo, but he has a darkness in him that he has to fight and overcome.

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Lee Hi and Epik High made a great song. But it shouldn't have been used in the drama. Even if they use it, it should only be at the end edits. Modern pop and saeguk just don't mix. I only feel bad for the artists since kdrama fans only cared about it ruining the immersion factor for them.

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I guess the real question one must ask of this show after every episode is "are there any scenes we missed?" It is very irksome that the international viewers are getting a totally different version...sigh.

From the previews I am almost feel like So and Su die. I know they can't die, but they definitely edited it well to keep is on the hook for the next episode. But what if they did die, but she wakes up again in Su's body in the past and then tries to change the future, thus preventing So's death - Nine: Nine Time Travels: Ryeo. Hehe

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Or they die-not-really-die Romeo and Juliet-ish. Their love screams tragedy but I can't help but root for the So-Su couple (though it's hard to differentiate their names- oh they're really meant to be)

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Yeah I was wondering if there are different scenes in this episode between the one from dramafire and the SBS version. I've been watching the two versions since 2 episodes earlier zzz<