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Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: Episode 8

Now it feels like we’ve finally dispensed with the setup to get to the actual meat of the character interactions, which is a definite plus in my book. Even if everything in this hour revolves around a newly introduced (and swiftly resolved) problem, it at least gives our heroine more opportunities to form new alliances, or to strengthen the ones she already has. One thing’s for sure—her makeup brings all the boys to the yard.

 
EPISODE 8 RECAP

Continuing straight from where we left off last week, So demands that Su look at his scarred face properly. He tells her how he hates that look she gave him, and adds that he doesn’t ever want to see it from her again.

Confused, Su asks him what look he’s talking about. Growing angrier, So claims that it’s a look of pity, and he doesn’t need her, of all people, to feel sorry for him. As he slowly loosens his grip on her wrist, he leaves her with a warning: “Stay out of my sight. Next time… I don’t know what I’ll do to you.”

Su is left to lean against the same column for support after he leaves, looking more than a little dazed and concerned by their encounter.

That night, So is back to wearing his mask as he lies under the stars in Astronomer Choi’s tower. Thirteenth prince Baek-ah finds his older brother in much more agreeable spirits as he apologizes for not putting a stop to the unmasking earlier. For the record, he also adds that errant tenth prince Eun regrets what he did.

So mentions that Baek-ah didn’t look at him when he unmasked himself, and Baek-ah replies that he was worried it would upset So if he did. So sighs that feelings are so fickle—he can be mad at one person for looking, and one person for not looking. Yeah, tell us about it.

At least Baek-ah stands up for Su, who he says was just manipulated by the much-eyeliner’d third prince Yo. So cuts him off, not wanting to hear any more about Su.

Along with Court Lady Oh, Su attends to the king’s morning routine, which includes a light smattering of cosmetics. He backhandedly reminds Su of her place when it comes to the princes, who she admits she hasn’t seen much of lately, before Court Lady Oh coifs the king’s hair into a topknot.

Queen Sinmyeongsunseong intervenes in this process, demanding that the court lady allow her to do the tending. She’s offended by the simple wooden pin Court Lady Oh was to use to secure the topknot, until King Taejo informs the queen that he’s dressing simply to reflect the drought their nation is suffering.

In keeping with that theme, all the princes enjoy the personalized tea Su serves them—well, all except for So, who admonishes her for serving tea when there’s such a drought going on.

Su takes Baek-ah aside afterward to make sure he didn’t make a mistake in telling her all of So’s favorite things to eat and drink. It’s funny when Baek-ah comments that he had to give her everyone’s favorites so it would be less obvious that she was catering specifically to So, which is why it upsets her that So rejected her offer.

She’s frustrated that So seems to only be angry with her, which even Baek-ah confirms—he forgave Eun right away, so why is he still so sore at Su? Baek-ah has a suspicion, but Su tries to bow out before the other court ladies see them.

Unfortunately, Baek-ah intentionally doesn’t let her go, which only makes things look worse. Su is punished by the other girls and by Court Lady Oh, who warns her to stay away from the princes and out of trouble.

Soon-deok, Grand General park’s daughter, finally works up the courage to face tenth prince Eun directly. Her stuttering problem prevents her from getting her thoughts out properly, and Eun is doubly unhelpful, his only concern being that the drought has left him with nothing to do.

But she has a solution to his boredom, and takes him to a spot where she’s set a trap. Eun is too impatient to wait, but Soon-deok pulls him down when she sees a bird approach the trap. The fact that she gets to hold Eun’s hand, however inadvertently, makes her break out into a wide grin.

They wait for the right opportunity to spring the trap, and Eun couldn’t be more excited that they’ll get to eat it… at least until Soon-deok breaks the bird’s neck. Disgusted, he calls her a murderer and leaves, and poor, clueless Soon-deok is left to wonder if he was upset because he wanted to eat the bird alive. Hah.

Her father watches the display and tsks from a distance, eventually sitting down with his daughter to cook the bite-sized bird. It’s adorable how he tries to attack Eun’s lack of manliness to make his daughter feel better: “What kind of man can’t even catch a bird?” Soon-deok: “I can catch them.” Grand General Park: “Then… how can he protect his wife and children!” Soon-deok: “I can protect us.”

It’s both funny and sad that Soon-deok has accounted for all these possibilities in her mind, though we’re not let in on the whole story between her and Eun. It seems like her father knows that she’s leaning toward Eun, and has given up on dissuading her.

Eighth prince Wook heads over to Damiwon, presumably to see Su, but he finds the doors barred with a note that since the palace will be holding a ritual to bring rain, all outside access will be blocked. Later that night, Su finds a note near her bedside, and is just barely able to make out the Hanja characters to realize that Wook wants to meet her in the secret entrance to the baths.

She grins from ear to ear when she finds him there, and he admits that Chae-ryung told him of the location when he expressed his frustration at being unable to see Su. Aw.

Sitting in the dark cave, Wook remarks on how easy it would be for her to use the tunnel to escape the palace. Su knows this well, but tells him how So told her that there would be no way for her to truly escape the king. Since Damiwon suits her well, she says she’d rather wait until she can leave the palace with the king’s blessing.

“Until then… could you… not forget me?” she asks hesitantly. By way of reply, Wook tells her that if the upcoming rain ritual produces rain, the king will be apt to grant favors accordingly. He’ll request that the king free her from her service, which causes Su’s face to light up from within at the thought of being able to return to his house.

Wook smiles broadly as he says that when she does return, he’ll buy everything she’ll need to make soap, and fill the house with all her favorite supplies. Su jokes that Princess Yeonhwa would hate that, but adds quietly, “I desperately hope it will rain. It has to.” Wook agrees.

She closes her eyes as she rests her head on his shoulder, and Wook can only smile as he holds her hand and leans in closer.

Su helps treat Crown Prince Mu’s condition before he heads off to quell a rebellion caused by the ongoing drought. The crown prince, appreciative of her help and discretion, says that he’s left her a necklace back at Damiwon.

So pops in to tell the crown prince that everything’s ready, looking visibly unhappy to find Su there as well. Once the two are left alone, So seems suspicious of the basket of supplies she’s carrying out of the tent, and sees her being apprehended by Queen Sinmyeongsunseong’s court ladies outside.

Su is brought before the queen and third prince Yo, and is asked to account for her absence. Yo calls her out for being with the crown prince and demands to know what she was up to. The basket she carried is used as evidence against her, and the herbs inside cause the queen to ask Su if the crown prince is ill.

When Su claims to know nothing, the queen grabs her by the hair. So sees this but doesn’t interfere—thankfully, Court Lady Oh does, with a working alibi for Su’s whereabouts.

Though Queen Sinmyeongsunseong questions Court Lady Oh’s claim that she sent Su to tend to the king, the court lady is sharp, and asks if the queen would have preferred that she tend to him herself. After a stare-down, the queen leaves.

So approaches his mother afterward, though as usual, she’s less than thrilled to see him. He’s not as concerned about her demeanor toward him as he is about the way she treats others—most notably Court Lady Oh and Su. No matter how much contempt she has, he cautions her, she should also maintain her dignity. Now the queen can’t help but wonder if this is all because of Su.

Court Lady Oh looks to be having some stomach trouble again, and is in no mood for Su’s gratitude. She turns around and slaps the girl across the face for going against her orders to stay away from the crown prince. Court Lady Oh says she regrets ever taking her in.

This finally seems to break Su, who asks what she’s done so wrong in treating the crown prince. Why shouldn’t she, if she knows how? When Court Lady Oh says she knows nothing of the palace, Su agrees, but then asks why Oh hasn’t bothered to teach her. Why, out of all the other court ladies, does Oh treat her so hatefully?

With a hand over her stomach and sweat on her brow, Court Lady Oh finally says that she gets so upset with Su because she reminds her of herself when she was younger—she’s too trustful and too good. “A girl like you could easily die here,” she says. She adds that she’s worried… but before she can say more, she doubles over in pain.

She wakes in her bed with Su tending to her, though her attempts to be gruff enough to make the girl leave don’t work—now that Su knows she was just being hard on her because she cared about her, she’s not scared of her anymore. Court Lady Oh’s demeanor changes, and soon both she and Su are smiling at each other over the terrible porridge Su made.

King Taejo performs the rain ritual to plead for the heavens to end the drought by kneeling repeatedly in supplication. It’s a strain on his knees and his stamina, so Astronomer Choi suggests that one of the princes take over for him.

In order to make the selection fair, all the princes put their names in a pot to be drawn at random. Yo scares the rest of his brothers by claiming that the people will call for their blood should the ritual fail to bring rain, at least until So aptly points out that the ritual isn’t held to make it rain, it’s held until there’s rain.

“A person cannot move the heavens. We just have to make it look as though they can,” So adds. Lo and behold, his name is chosen by the king to take over the ritual, and So has no choice but to accept.

He doesn’t get to just bow at the temple like his father did—he has to first walk through the capital as part of the ceremony, which subjects him to the ridicule of the people for being more monster than man. Believing that a masked prince won’t help their cause any, they throw stones at him, and sling what might very well be feces on him. (It also looks like mud, but they’re in a drought, so.)

So still does his best to go through with the ritual, offering no verbal complaint. By the time he actually makes it to the palace covered in muck, Queen Sinmyeongsunseong actually smiles to see him so, as does Yo.

Poor So looks frightened from the ordeal, only to shake with anger when he sees even Su looking at first away from him, then right at him. Defeated, he drops the ceremonial jug and runs away.

Queen Sinmyeongsunseong, pleased with this recent turn of events, has something even worse up her sleeve—she and Yo have conspired to have the crown prince attacked by thieves on his way back to the palace. Yo comments on how he had been the one who hoped to be in charge of the rain ritual, yet So was chosen instead.

The queen believes that it was King Taejo and Astronomer Choi who conspired to make sure So was chosen, having no belief that it was by some divine chance. Even so, she still sees this as an opportunity for Yo to gain more of a foothold to the throne, though we’re not told exactly how.

Su goes looking for So, who she finds napping in a boat (the boat’s stuck in mud due to the drought). She almost falls over, but either Su was faking sleep or his reflexes are so quick that he’s able to pull her to safety.

Of course, that means pulling her down with him, and the two share a moment as they find themselves in such close proximity. Su finally scrambles up to tell him that it’s time for him to come out of hiding now. He shouldn’t take what happened too hard, she adds—the people are just desperate and angry.

So snaps that he doesn’t want her pity, then asks if she knows why she was born. She admits that she’s thought about it, but there’s no answer. She can only determine how she’ll live, and she doesn’t want to live a life controlled by others. “No one in this world has an easy life,” she adds sagely.

He at least pays attention while she talks, but pretends as though he’s above it as he resumes fake-napping. At her advice that he return to the rain ritual and forget what happened, he calls her out for pretending to know everything about the world when she’s still so young.

That night, Su thinks over So’s question about why she thinks she was born and, unable to sleep, she attempts to concoct her own BB cream and succeeds.

It’s the day of the rain ritual, and Crown Prince Mu has yet to show up. Worried that something must have happened to him, Astronomer Choi volunteers to go find the crown prince himself. But since that would mean leaving So to appease the people on his own, So declines.

Astronomer Choi gets on his case about being too obsessed with the scar on his face, and advises him to get over it if he hopes to be able to help the crown prince and resolve his mommy issues. That’s when So realizes that Choi made it so that his name was picked.

The astronomer doesn’t deny it, but adds that he just wanted to help him build his confidence. So sees it as a lowly appointment in and of itself, thinking that Astronomer Choi just needed a slave to perform the ritual until it rained.

“If it rains because of that slave,” the astronomer says, throwing So’s words back at him, “then that slave will become a king!” Ah, so now the plan comes out—he’d only wanted to help So’s standing with his own family and the people, in order to make sure So stood in solidarity with the crown prince. But, he adds, he can only set the table. It’s up to So to take charge of his own destiny.

Resolved, So grabs a new set of ceremonial robes to perform the ritual, only to be stopped by Su, who claims to have found a way to rid him of his mask. Sitting him down before her table of makeup, she takes off his mask. They both look into each other’s eyes for a long, charged moment, until Su brushes his bangs aside to reveal the full extent of the scar.

He grows nervous when she reaches up to touch it, tracing her finger down the long, crooked line. Suddenly, he grabs her by the wrist and asks if she’s not afraid of his face. “Do you feel sorry for me?” She answers back that she can’t feel sorry for someone who’s always threatening her—and besides, the man behind the scar matters more.

She only finds it unfair that he’s had to suffer all his life because of a scar no bigger than the palm of her hand, causing him to search her face as he asks if he can really trust her. Su says that because she’s been betrayed so much in her own life, she will make it so that he can trust her by not changing who she is. If he trusts her, she adds, she won’t betray that trust.

“As long as it’s you… I can put myself in your hands,” So says quietly. “Do as you wish. I am now yours.” (He uses the same language as he did when he said she was “his” earlier on, only now, it’s reversed.)

Su sets to her work in covering his scar as we cut to the king and family waiting for the ritual to resume. The ministers suggest that the king appoint Yo to head the ritual since the crown prince has yet to show.

Feeling sure of himself, Yo tells Astonomer Choi that he should stop expecting the crown prince—he won’t be showing up anytime soon. Subtlety, Yo. Heard of it?

We find Su applying makeup to So’s scar, and once it’s done, she holds up a reflective surface for him to see for himself. He then grabs her by the shoulders when she rises and turns her to face him in all his unscarred beauty.

“Do you remember? I told you that you were mine,” So says. “Then and now, and the moment you touched my face… I decided that you would be mine. So prepare your heart from this point forward. I… will never let you go.”

He leans in as if to kiss her, causing Su to go still with shock. Seeming to sense her reluctance, So doesn’t push things further, and gently loosens his grasp on her shoulders. He leaves, and Su’s hand goes to her wrist, where Wook’s bracelet still rests.

Before Yo can make it to the ceremonial palanquin, So stops him, though he’s back to wearing his mask. He claims that only he and the crown prince have the right to be in the palanquin, and in his anger, Yo punches the mask off his face.

But when So rises from picking it up, Yo can’t believe his eyes. So takes his place in the palanquin and departs, ending up in the same place as before on his march to the palace. The people are ready to start throwing stones again, until they notice that his scar is gone.

Thinking it some sort of divine sign, the people all begin to bow to So as he walks among them, all of them praying for rain. Astronomer Choi looks pleased as he walks behind the prince, but Yo, looking from afar, looks positively murderous.

The royal family is surprised to see So walk back into the palace with the people supporting him rather than throwing stones, which makes the evil queen very, very angry. That, and she expected the son she actually loves to head the ritual.

All the princes react with restrained surprise to see So’s unblemished face, but it’s Wook who seems to figure out how such a thing could’ve happened. He looks over to Su, who’s only got eyes for So. Is that… is that jealousy? Please say yes.

Queen Sinmyeongsunseong is at a loss when she sees So’s face, but is unable to say anything as So heads up the steps toward the ceremonial altar. He turns to look at all gathered, his eyes resting specifically on Su. He smiles, she smiles back…

But suddenly the scene in front of her changes. She sees the unmarred So in a king’s garb atop the steps, his smile gone. Just as quickly, the scene returns to normal, but Su is still shaken.

Then, what starts as a few droplets turns into a torrential downpour. There’s surprise and jubilation among the royal family, though Queen Sinmyeongsunseong couldn’t look any more unhappy with all these developments if she tried.

Astronomer Choi just smiles, his plan having worked. Su, however, looks more frightened now than ever as So turns back to look at her. She can’t help from wondering if So will become King Gwangjong, the fourth king of Goryeo.

So turns back toward the altar and smiles a dangerous smile, as the rain washes the makeup away to reveal his scar once more.

 
COMMENTS

That last shot was great, not just because it gave us a frightening glimpse into that side of So we know to be lurking there, but because it’s an actual appropriate use of the close-up. I’ve been deliberately not commenting on PD Kim Kyu-tae’s work in this drama, preferring to wait to see the whole of it before weighing in, though it’s no secret that I’ve found his style and approach problematic over the years. And while he chronically overuses close-ups to the point where they lose their meaning, sometimes, the style yields positive results. In this case, getting close-ups of So’s face sans scar worked very well—getting endless close-ups of Su staring, not so much. But I’ll take what I can get, even if it means relying on luck and an actor’s ability to make some of the more questionable shot choices mean something.

Seeing So look so calculated near the end raises some concerns, the least of which being: How well do we actually know him? Like Astronomer Choi noted, he’s completely capable of killing people, yet completely powerless when it comes to his scar and his own insecurity. I wonder if, by helping to disguise the deformity that’s held So back all this time, Su’s actually created the monster she seems to think King Gwangjong is. That seems to be the reason she suddenly saw a flash of the future (or imagined it), of So as king with a scarless face. Which also brings up a whole host of questions about how Su is or isn’t impacting history with her presence in the past. It’s not an issue the show seemed to want to touch with a ten foot pole until now, and even then, I don’t know if they were making the direct correlation that Su just opened the door for So to become King Gwangjong. Or maybe they were, who knows.

I wish So had gotten more of a moment with the mirror before he turned all his attention to Su, if only because it would’ve been nice to see more of a meaningful reaction from him after he saw the one thing that’s held him back his entire life just disappear before his eyes. It seems like such a missed opportunity to not showcase the range of emotions we can only imagine he had at seeing himself as normal. But at least we got a glimpse of it in his thankfulness toward Su, despite there being more to their moment than just gratitude.

But one did get the feeling that all So’s ever wanted is someone he could trust and depend on, and maybe even love—it’s difficult to separate his need to be accepted and wanted by his mother with the solace he’s now found in Su. All that acceptance he could never get from Mommy Dearest, he suddenly has from Su. All that compassion he wanted, he now has. So it’s not so out of line to believe that all he needed from Su was her permission to trust her in order to fall for her completely, enough to where he’d declare himself to be hers. Granted, he also declared her to be his, but at least this time was an even trade, an “I am yours, and you are mine,” sort of scenario. It would’ve been nice to get Su’s input on this, but there’s plenty of time.

At least she grasped enough of the situation with So to think of Wook’s bracelet, which symbolizes the promise she made with him. What’s extra interesting about them is how the show even reinforced their relationship this episode—while it was left to Wook to tell her to wait for him last episode, it was Su who more or less asked the same of him this round. I’ve come to love those two together so much that I’m worried about all the conflict that last sequence of scenes promised (in the best way possible), with Wook looking at Su, and Su looking at So. Don’t break his smolder, Moon Lovers. Pretty please?

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YES!!! Thanks Heads!!! Off to read...

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Oh my gosh! I'm first... should I go buy a lotto ticket? It's my lucky day.

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Good episode very good...wow

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Can I ask/suggest something?

Is there any way at all the comments to be set (arranged / setting ) according to "latest comment" to appear first?

so that the first comment, is not the first that we see, and thus people will stop fighting for it.

The fight to be the "first commenter" is unnerving.

Tch.

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How dare those stupid people to just throw anything on the 4th Prince when he is still a prince in spite of that mask. Good thing, IU is from the time of BB creams. I wonder if it's waterproof tho, haha! well, it started to rain, 'am guessing not.
But for what it's worth, it was so satisfying to see their stunned faces. "Yes, Bitches, 'tis me - prettier than thou!"

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“Do you remember? I told you that you were mine,” So says. “Then and now, and the moment you touched my face… I decided that you would be mine. So prepare your heart from this point forward. I… will never let you go.”

if I were HS my answer would be, "Well ok then, if you insist. Who am I to resist?" ?

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I'm so upset that scene wasn't in the version on dramafever

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I agree. I rewatched that scene and imagined those lines. It makes a real difference to the whole rest of the episode.

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OMG. THIS is why I was wondering how on earth I could possibly have missed the scene! THIS! AAARRRGH!!!!

I didn't miss it! It was cut! WHY would anyone cut that?!?! WHYYYYYYYYYY?

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Try to watch the raw version in one of the drama websites. The raw version gets uploaded 2-3 hours after the episode airs in Korea.

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The scene is subbed here for anyone who wants it!

https://twitter.com/4seasonswithIU/status/777902224093487104?s=07

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Ohmigosh. That scene was so good! Thank you so much for posting it, @paramount!

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Totally agree with you! This cut scene makes this episode! I'm soooo upset now that I know drama fever uses international versions....wondering what other important scenes have been cut from this and other drama series.

Thank you dramabeans for keeping us up to date on this drama! ?

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Thanks @paramount! That scene is really beautiful. I really loved how carefully he was watching to see if she accepted him and backed off the possible kiss when he saw she wasn't ready for that (not afraid or turned off, just not into it).

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Waah, thank you for the link Paramount!

I can't believe they cut such an important scene in the edited version!!!

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hahahah...

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OMG I think the best part is his facial expression when he saw that she was not ready and then let go of her. I have shiver!!

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OMG yes I loved seeing his face change, his face spelled patience and understanding. It was hot.

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200% agreed! It is so refreshing that we see respect from the male lead in how he's treating her instead of the "I'm going to force you and jerk you around physically" scenes that are common. He tried to make a move, realized she wasn't comfortable, AND HE BACKED OFF. I think that made the scene (and their relationship) several times better for me.

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Check dramanice.eu episode 8. The scene was there.

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Damn you Dramafever!!!!! Is this all we get after paying for premium service? ;( ... i want (part) of my money back :(

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@paramount, you are so generous.
thank u so much for the link.?
that scene...so intense!!
how can you not tremble on that kind of gaze?
loving so much that part.?

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Dramafever has the official licensed International version so you really cannot blame them. I'd be pissed if I was Dramafever and would ask for the SBS version. With that in mind, WTF whoever edited this! They had plenty of time to get this right since it's the preproduced version without last minute edits. The story continuity really sucks. I was wondering what the point was of having So see Mom & Yo go after Su. The abrupt shift from Su doing So's makeup to him going to the palanquin was jarring.

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"The story continuity really sucks. I was wondering what the point was of having So see Mom & Yo go after Su."

Are you serious?

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I saw another web version of the makeup scene where Hae Soo passed So a letter halfway through the makeup and this scene wasn't even shown in SBS broadcast.

Wonder how many versions we need to catch up for the story to look blended? (-_-;)

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so many versions??

i thought only international or sbs version? how do they even get their hands on another version o.o

this show is great, but all these versions is not leaving a good feeling for me

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Why dont you try to watch at myasiantv or dramayou..

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Now that Lee Jun Ki's mask is off, I actually care about this show.
I have such a headache chasing down the right version, raw, Chinese sub, Eng sub. KD watching has never been this stressful!
First, myasiantv had a version in which the subs were like 2 mins behind the scenes they were meant for; then they uploaded a new vid that was the shortened version w/o the critical scenes!
Haven't checked it out on dramayou yet.

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Dramayou is now showing the subbed vid from Dramacool, and it is the short version too! ?

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myasiantv also cut this scene T.T

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They really take out the best scenes! asdfgghhjjlk;dfl;gjhjd

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They cut out the best scenes; they cover up their biggest asset, i.e LJK's eye and face. You get the feeling that they are either totally incompetent or they've been bought off by the competition to make sure this show fails in the ratings.

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I love that you specified LJK's eye - as in, eye, singular. That one visible eye really was Scarlet Heat's biggest asset - well, now it's been joined by its twin <3

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oops, I meant Scarlet HEART.

Though with His Royal Hotness Lee Jun-ki around, 'Scarlet Heat' fits equally perfectly.

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seriously! who in their right mind decided to cut it from the first release anyway?? what are they thinking?? that scene is gold, and adds so much to their loveline!

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From what I've read, it appears that they (SBS) haven't cut anything. After circulating the episodes as the final version to sites like DF, they've actually re-edited the episodes which has resulted in the final episodes being different in quite a few ways. The background music is different at times, lending a different vibe for certain scenes altogether. And of course, addition of these scenes, though I can't fathom why that scene from yesterday's episode had not made it to the original episode anyway.

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I watched it on Dramafever just now and that scene was included. Don't know how but I'm glad it's there. Why have they been editing so many important scenes out?! I wonder how many hours of unedited footage they have and how much of it we're actually seeing. Wish they would just release everything, even if 20 eps turn into 40 eps, I'm willing to watch.

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"Wish they would just release everything, even if 20 eps turn into 40 eps, I’m willing to watch."

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Thanks for the recap, HeadsNo2!

This show is getting intense.

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Totally agree. ..Was telling my sis that I wish it were at least 50 with more WS and HS moments

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I went to look after reading your comment, and So says, "I am yours" but I didn't see her hold up the mirror. I didn't see the "almost" kiss. I only saw her putting concealer on his face and them having a conversation. The scene paramount shared (on twitter) at comment #2.1.1.1.2 is still not on DramaFever.

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Oh my mistake, I mixed up the websites. I watched it on DramaFire, not DramaFever.

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There's more than just the missing almost kiss scene.

I've just watched the two versions of the make up scene - domestic and international - and the domestic version (i.e. Korean version) includes more dialogue between So and Su and totally flows better. You can see the moment when So closes his eyes and puts his faith in Su.

And from there, the transition to the almost kiss scene builds up more naturally.

What a waste. And so frustrating for us international viewers

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where did you watch the domestic version?

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Thank you so much for the episode summary, HeadsNo2. This is why I love dramabeans and take time for a daily visit! This scene changes the ending so much. If I hadn't read the recap I never would have known it existed. And I agree. How could DramaFever leave it out???)

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I confess that till now i was quite confused when i started reading here about the missing scenes because i had no idea and i was so confused as if i watch the "complete" version without any missing scenes as everyone was talking about what is missing and not but i see it's for those who see the Dramafever version...till now i always download the korean version posted after some hours on sites,so i guess i see the SBS released version uploaded by fans...Even so,that is a very lousy job and even more confusing for the viewer in terms of plot and how the story works,also how can they cut LJK scenes,even more one such as that...And more than sure,many who went into this story was for him

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I thought I was nuts for a sec while reading the recap. That seems like a pretty engaging scene, and to have that cut out is a crying shame. A crying shame, I tell you!

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I really can't believe that scene isn't in the international version. I feel like that context is important (with Hae Soo clutching Wook's bracelet) to imply that Soo is more shaken by So than even she realized before then.

I'm with you tho. Swoon worthy moment *__*

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Hahahahaha, i wont either , how can I resist So's charm ????

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But actually Wang so is Gwangjong... ???

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In the version I saw, the So to Su "You are mine" was missing. But I though that lingering moment when she slowly removed his mask was so intimate. And then he told her "I am yours".. Ohh LJK!!

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Aarghh those schenes didnt showed in One version.

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Can anyone tell me which site is airing the uncut episode? Is any site airing the uncut episode? I wish it was.

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I think all the websites that upload a raw versions are using the SBS version but as soon as there's a sub they put the DF version since it's the only version that has a subtitle.

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Try to watch at myasiantv or in dramayou

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Dramayou will still have the SBS raws as well as sub of the international version, you can watch both there.

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One of the most important moments in this drama and I had to read it instead of seeing it!! “Do you remember? I told you that you were mine,” So says. “Then and now, and the moment you touched my face… I decided that you would be mine. So prepare your heart from this point forward. I… will never let you go.”

Getting more and more confused as to the reasoning behind the editing of the international version. Again, needless Baekhyun scenes (Do the editors think only EXO fans watch this? before anyone gets upset I'm an EXO fan but this is too much).. capturing a bird to kill or not kill... to cook, but to not eat..useless to storyline... So seeing his scarless face for the first time, declaring himself Su's, the trust and potential future relationship is cut. What the %$#&!! Also, the scene of So standing up to his mother, cut!

Seriously running out of patience. I love this drama, but getting to despise the editors. Someone give me a good explanation as to why we are being fed a less comprehensive storyline? It has a feeling of sabotage....is this all so people will stop watching and NBC Universal won't do well and invest again? I can't think of a logical reason as to why those scenes were excluded. Bummed out.. bubble bursting..

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I think the international version is the intended version but the korean viewers weren't satisfied with it so they started re-editing the drama, but they already sold the unedited version to the international websites.
The problem is we the international viewers are more interested on the SBS version more than the unedited one which is being uploaded to dramafever with subtitles. Now we are stuck with a bunch of very important yet unsubtitled scenes.

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Exactly, this is the problem. SBS didn't do their editing properly.

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Hmm.. I wonder..

Since there will be simulcast with oversease territories:
After post production (where editing etc are done), this (director's cut, basically) will be submitted to the distributor.

Everything will be handed to the international distributor.
(There might be re edits here, taking into consideration local censor boards, etc)

Distributor will sell/hand to international companies. (???)

SBS is listed as the distributor for MLSHR (but how reliable is wikipedia). However, for the SBS Kdramas broadcasted locally in my country: in the end credits- for distribution, SBS is listed as distributor, then followed by the acquisition department staff of the local broadcasting station, local station dubbing staff, local station promo staff, etc.

Our local broadcasting station I mentioned above also sells their dramas overseas. And I have read in the official YouTube uploads of clips from their shows some comments from say, Africa-based fans why when their drama aired on Africa there one arc is missing, or if there are 2 seasons, only one season is aired. We can argue though that maybe the station in Africa only has purchased the rights for 1 season only.

But in the case of SHR, based on the comments, almost episodes distributed and aired over at Dramafever and One Asia (or Youku and Dramafever) are the same. So the sold/ distributed material is the same. Even the first 3 episodes on the pilot week on SBS is the same. (Until the "re-edit")

But supposing all materials are with SBS since they are presumably the distributor, they really can "re-edit" what they will air, independent of what was sold on the other broadcast companies.

What if the final cut or edit/ director's cut is the real, coherent version of the series? (Who knows whether that the 1-3 Director's Cut episodes aired on the pilot week's Saturday are the real final cuts? How easily "re-edited", readily available they are when the reception was bad on the pilot week...)

What if things only got weird when that cut was subject/examined/ re-edited for International Distribution?

Well, whatever happened there inside the cutting room...
Can SBS please just release the best version there is...
What shall we call it?
Uncut version?

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Poor Hae Soo's heart. Nothing can prepares her heart for Wang So

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"One of the most important moments in this drama and I had to read it instead of seeing it!!" - @ Puni - I wholeheartedly agree. So frustrating! And I saw the missed bit elsewhere and I am like if I had seen this as a part of the whole (without losing the continuity), I'd have had even more feels. PD nim, editor-nim - why didn't you get your act together BEFORE the whole thing started airing? :(

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Seriously, one has to ask why was that scene even cut in the first place. At first, I thought the conspiracy theorists were being too much. But now it's clear that many scenes were shot, but cut in post-editing. WHY? Did they think Lee Jun Ki was no longer a big enough star, so they decided to boost the screen time of people they thought would appeal to international viewers?

I was sympathetic in the beginning, and was okay with even the early missteps, but I just can't fathom, why the almost kiss scene would be cut. Not because of Lee Jun Ki, but more for Su's reaction afterwards. Her grabbing the bracelet from Wook, to stop herself, to remind herself about Wook, shows that she realized that there was something there with So. It was the first time, that Su acknowledged more than friendship, more that pity, more than help for So. And what did the editors do? They removed the scene, so we could have more filler scenes of sparrow hunting.

Why does 10th Prince still have these many scenes at this point in the drama (*fans, please note this is not EXO bashing*), in the original that had almost 40 episodes to flesh things out, his arc was already done before the 8th episode, but here we are, almost at the half way point, and we see that the next episode will be dealing with his marriage issues as well. Perhaps, it is not outright sabotage, more like politicking, and its effect on ruining what could have been a good drama. I mean we still have a missing princess, who still has to make an appearance, and surprise, surprise she is also an idol, from a popular group.

The writer did an excellent job of translating the story to a Korean time period, they actually shot the scenes. But the editors went back afterwards to cut scenes, move early scenes to later episodes, create nonsensical scene changes, bone headed music matching, etc. But, let's not forget that the director, given a larger budget than most, with bigger sets and varied location shots than most Korean Sageuks; my gosh they even had more than one horse in a scene! LOL. And what does the director do? He turns what should have been an epic showcase, into close up, face shots, neglecting all the details put in by the set and costume designers to showcase historical Korea. *Slow Clap* WELL DONE, Director (sarcasm)

I am irritated, because this drama could have been GREAT. I am not a fan of the other airing sageuk, its cuteness doesn't appeal to me, though I can understand those who enjoy it. I just can't seem to get into it, though I was a fan of the similar youth oriented, Sungkyunkwan Scandal. If Moon Lovers wasn't shooting itself in the foot and self-sabotaging, I wonder in what direction it could have gone. But then, the team behind it, forgot to actually promote to the Korean audience. Mistaking international acclaim and attention, for home-grown support. So maybe, even if everything was perfect, the drama would still have failed in...

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I agree wholeheartedly. Feeling so bummed out.. why cant they make it 20 eps still but maybe with longer hours.. they are doing so many extra editing for the version aired in Korea, why not prolong it more? So the "newer" version can include both the scenes in the international version and the new-edited version. That way, at least i would feel that I'm not missing much, and i just need to see the newer version (SBS) and wait for anyone kind enough to do the engsub.

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Gooddrama has the uncut but that scene isn't subtitled. Had to read the recap and thanks for the Twitter link. That was awesome!

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anyone knows what is the song that was playing during this scene?

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Epik High feat. Lee Hi - Can you Heart my Heart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjRQM9wioSY

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Thank you so much.
I knew it, I was thinking this sounds like lee hi's voice but couldn't get what was the song! such a nice voice.

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The song is nice especially the intro with Lee Hi's voice but then, I was turned off when I heard the full version. I mean, what's with the hip-hop rapping? It totally ruins the entire song for me.

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No wonder I love this song so much: 'cuz it's Epik High's awesome ballads and with Lee Hi!!

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It's not too strange if any rap, this is fusion drama, Hee Soo came from the present time anyway. Loco and Epic high just too good not to listen to..

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That preview made my soul run out of my physical body. I was in blank because of that. There's no way I will let episode 9 pass by tonight unwatched.

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Wow !! What a fantastic way of saying it !! I felt the same way too

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I just went through the raw, but decided to stop and wait for the subs, just hoping there are no cut scenes.

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I just compared the raw and the international version of ep 9. Again, I'm disappointed that they cut out some scenes (1 with LJK and IU.. Damn!). Do make sure you are watching raw with eng sub.

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Ok, that begs the question: where should I go to get the uncut versions? I'm used to get my dramas on doramaX264, but now I'm wondering if they got the unedited episodes. And the other question is: what else did I miss? In a way, I feel cheated by Scarlet heart. I was thinking that the editing was problematic, but now I know they've cut so many scenes for the international release , I'm almost angry. So much waste ...

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I can't help but start to think they tried to portray So to be more villainous and ruthless during post production since they left out so many significant scenes that proved the opposite as we've seen in the SBS version. It's as if they wanted/manipulated the viewers to root for Wook although now we know it wasn't the writer's intention.
Because while watching the episode without this scene and then seeing the preview I was totally like no WTH, why So, why?! But with this scene included it changes one's perception. Oh boy this seriously gives me CIIT flashbacks.

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This scene proves that IU just isn't that great an actress. I admit, she does all her crying scenes splendidly. She sobs. She bawls. She weeps. She does all kinds of tear-shedding. But when it comes to the more nuanced moments, in which a blend of micro-expressions signifies layers and layers of feeling--shock, awkwardness, attraction, hesitation, curiosity, and longing--she can't pull it off. He grabs her. She looks stunned. He pulls away. In her face, there is zero gradation of feeling. I'm sorely disappointed in her. This could've been such an iconic scene but she ruined it with her inexperience.

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I totally agree with you. How they could cast this chick next to Lee Joon Gi and Kang Ha Neul is baffling. She only has four expressions.

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CC cream, created in the 21st century, perfected in Goryeo.

CC cream: covers scars, blemishes, evens out skin tone, creates a flawless look, inhibits jealousy, spoils vengeful plots, instantly turns a crowd into crazy fan mode, make jaws drop, conjures rain and leave everyone including the king of Goryeo, speechless.

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LJK is just killing it in the scene where he performed the rain ceremony but was stoned/had mud thrown at him and entered the courtyard where all eyes (royals, nobles etc) were turned on his mud-spattered form? Such vulnerability portrayed by him – I really felt for him.

Also how dare those people throw stones/mud at him? He’s a prince after all – the king’s son.

But I thought his walk through the crowds sprinkling water around was funny though. He looked so solemn and pompous, his arm stretched out – green palm in hand. Something about it really made me laugh.

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Oops - sorry this was meant to be a fresh comment. Accidentally posted as a reply. Apologies.

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Explain this to me.

WHY are people so turned off by the scars?? I don't get the big deal AT ALL.

He's supposed to be a soldier, soldiers go to war, sometimes they get scars. And for a soldier prince to be reviled for something so (IMHO) minor is super weird.

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Goryeo days weren't as accepting of people with deformities or scars...especially if you're royalty. It wasn't his choice to be a soldier, it was because of that scar that he got sent off and the family that raised him weren't really qualified as model parents. He was treated unjustly and indifferently because of the scar he bears.

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Not sure about Goryeo in particular... but in my country, back in the era of royalties, scars/deformities were treated the same. And that's for a few reasons.

Generally, marks/deformities on the bodies may be indication of contagious disease. Even if it's a scar from an injury, it could become infected and later become contagious skin conditions (Remember, there's no antibiotics). And that might result in disease outbreaks... so people generally shunned those with visible deformities.

And as for the royalties, their hold on the people is predicated on the fact that they have the "right" to rule... which generally means they are "favoured" by the heavens, or in my culture, of good Karma. So they are held to a standard of perfection; birth defects/deformities/bad scars are generally seen as indication that they are not favoured to rule.

I know many things might seem silly to us modern people, but in the past, without medical knowledge that we have now, people had to made due with their own understanding of how the world/our bodies work. And there's logic behind their actions, no matter how illogical it seems to be to us.

I hope this kinda answers your question.

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Really liked this response, it makes a lot of sense!

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This is just a drama not real history. Goryeo was built from the sweat and blood of war heroes who fought for many years before the entire Korean peninsula was united.
In reality they had scars.

Goryeo's history was written thousands of years later from 2nd, 3rd hand sources during the reign of King Sejong (Joseon era).

I think this writer making a big deal out of it more than it was back then.

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Chillax, it took a creative element out of certain historical figures and events… it is based on BBJX for a reason.

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@ Vanessa

Did you think no one here knows that? That's exactly what I was trying to explain. I know what's based on history and what's based on the novel and what's being exaggerated by the writer.

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Ooops not thousands of years later. Centuries later.

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I forget from where did I hear or read this, but I heard that a scar was considered as a bad omen... just like twin babies... in Queen Seon Deok, Deok Man was thrown away because she was born as a twin... I

I wonder though whether these superstitions were also applied for commoners or only for Royal Family.

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That was made up by the QSD writers. Twin babies was not a bad omen back then and Deok-man was raised in the palace all her life.

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I am more curious how people could SEE the scar though. The crowd was too small for a rain ritual but still, how could people REALISTICALLY SEE the scar from such distance?

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but they don't see the scar: wang so wear his mask. he has a bad reputation and the mask is a part of this: he wears a mask so he have to hide something horrible

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it's not easy to representing sympathetic magic :)

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Why do i get the feeling that some villagers were staged to throw things at wangso? Seeing queen and wangyo's reactions made me feel like they told a few villagers to throw at a scarred prince.. Then when unscarred wangso appeared, these few villagers seemed to be saying 'oh i thought hes supposed to be scarred but wheres the scar? do we throw or not..?' But before they had finished deciding, the other normal villagers were already starting to bow to wangso....

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That makes sense, of course they don't want his ritual to go well.

With mother and brother being like that, who needs enemies?

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It was the same guy that fueled the rage. He was stopped the second time because thankfully people have eyes. I'm just glad that was mud and not something else...LOL

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Hahahahahahahhahahahahaha all cosmetics company should really use those descriptions to sell their products..it will be a hit!

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I was more worried about if the concealer would run or would it be rainproof. They did not show. What a cliffhanger!

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I thought it would fall off in the rain too.

That's kind of what I thought the final shot might be alluding to...

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In the final scene, when they zoomed in on So's face, you could actually see a portion of the scar coming through.

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Yeah..I was bummed that it was not waterproof.

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They shouldve had haesoo in the R&D instead of sales assistant :p

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They have to conjure up rain first before the product is tested.

Wasting water during a Goryeo drought in efforts to create a waterproof cc cream might not be tolerated..unless your queen sms and you need full coverage on a hot drought-y goryeo day!

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they could've had a real product placement moment there. :P

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what an awesome tagline !!
hahaha...
I re-run the scene and burst laughing
your comment makes my day

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this episode should already be a CF.

I kept expecting a chyron of some sort flash at the bottom of the screen that says:

Goryeo Moon Make-up Power - Because YOU can move the Heavens.

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Goryeo Moon Make-up - approved by the gods :P

Goryeo Moon Concealer - even the heavens cant hide it

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Goryeo Moon makeup power sounds like some kind of Korean Sailor Moon incantation lmao

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LOL that's exactly what I thought and it cracked me up to think of my beloved oppa saying something like " SCARLET MOON MAKE UP TRANSFORM!" each time he wants to go out of the palace... mwuahahaha. it was a disturbing yet interesting mental image. :P

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I would give inordinate amounts of money to see Lee Jun Ki play a Sailor Scout

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"Scarlet moon makeup transform!" Complete with magical scepter, V hand sign and angelic choir with bubbles and rainbow clouds!!

....that's one epic makeover!

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@Yoyo, thinking about it the PD's already giving us the ML version of "Scarlet moon makeup transform"
magical scepter = So's sword
V hand sign = \^o^/
angelic choir with bubbles and rainbow clouds = OST English rap with extreme close up shots
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Lol!!! I wanna move the heavens! Gimme me somma that goryeo cream!

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As the line goes maybe [he's] born with it, maybe it's Maybelline.

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lol

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i want that cc cream .

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Since that Goryeo CC cream has that many extraordinary uses as listed out by @Yoyo, maybe Su should go and have it patented and give it a new name. We already have BB cream, CC cream and DD cream, probably it can be called :

GG cream - Goryeo Ggorgeous cream
MM cream - Moon Magic cream
SS cream - So-Su Super cream or more appropriately, So-Su Sealant cream, as this special concocted cream helped seal the fate of Su-So when So said : "Then and now, and the moment you touched my face (ahem, to apply that SS cream)… , I decided that you would be mine". lol.

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SS cream FTW!

Let's make a cream for Queen SMS:

FF cream - Forever Foolish
EE cream - Extraordinarily Evil

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?????

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:'D :'D :'D
omg I am DYING

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GG cream - Be Gorgeous. Be Goryeo.

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GorYOU - Because I'm Worth It

Soo-Phora - The Beauty Authority

Moon-belline - Maybe he's born with it, Maybe it's Moon-belline

--Im so sorry, I watched it again, and all I could think of was commercials. *bows down*

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Moon-belline :-D

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AAA cream

The only Anti-Aging Abs cream.

Slap on AAA NOW. For abs that never age. Abs that stay young forever. In this lifetime or the next.

Only in Goryeo.

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Loving all your jokes about the cc cream :D I was supposed to sleep but couldn't due to uncontrollable laughing over the witty wordplay, but just wondering though, how does a cosmetics salesperson like Hae Soon know how to conjure cc cream out of base ingredients? I would assume that her job would only just entail selling cosmetics and ensuring her application of makeup skills would be excellent... Forgive my ignorance...

While on the topic of makeup, I also propose names for the other types of makeup!
For 3rd's eyeliner, it'll be Egotistically Evil Eyeliner, but on Lee Joon Ki, it'll be Electrifying Edgy Eyeliner :D
For queen sms, her lipstick could be called Loathesomely Luscious Lipstick.

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hahahahaha..you guys seriously kill me with all the comments!

Now i have a mental image of So applying the cream everytime he needs to go out :)))))

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LOL this is priceless hahahaa

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Your comments is life.???????

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Bahahahaha!

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This cracks me up even more considering there really was a cream named "Beauty of Joseon Dynasty Cream" not too long ago on the market which was hyped up quite a bit on Asian beauty blogs but I think has been discontinued now for whatever reasons.
Ok, now I'm waiting for a Goryeo cream after this drama. ?

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I HEART your comment Yoyo <3 <3 <3

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I've been watching this one just because I needed something fun and ridiculous at the beginning of the week. Then this episode happened and I'm having to fan myself down. I do like LJK, but didn't consider myself a serious fan. I may have to join the fangirl (fan ahjumma) party! He is making Wang So absolutely fascinating.

(By the way, Terry Pratchett fans, did anyone else suddenly see him as a young Vetinari?)

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He is too emotional in general to be Vetinari - only in that scene where he explained the rain ritual he somewhat came closer.

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Yeah, oppa is not quite a Vetinari. That's not quite his style, not yet.

On the other hand, I could see him in a more playful, cheeky mode as Moist von Lipwig - except for the part where Moist is completely unmemorable to look at. That would knock LJK out of the running for that role almost instantly.

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Totally different universe, but I got more Fire Lord Ozai feels from him. Obviously there is the Zuko connection there which I get too. What with the scar and the angst (so much angst! But I do love it) and the parent issues and the flashes of cute dorkiness. But then at the end of the rain ritual with the calculating smile and the visions of him as poised, cruel ruler, all I saw was Ozai. Maybe that will be something explored in future episodes; whether So will go down the Ozai path or the Zuko path. Yeah, historically he's more like Ozai, what with the purges and all, but I'm sure dramaland can explain that away to make him more like Zuko if they want to.

And! Sorry for turning this into an Airbender essay when it was based on a Pratchett thread, but I am writing by the seat of my pants here and the connections are just coming to me as I type. Haha. But Yeonhwa also comes across to me as a more caged Azula. We all know Yeonhwa would be out there burning villages and attacking sky bison if she had the opportunity, but is unfortunately restricted by her gender and position. And (sorry to make it squicky here) but in a couple of ATLA episodes I definitely got some incestuous vibes from Azula. I'm pretty sure they weren't intentional, but that's how the scenes played out. And Yeonhwa hasn't exactly hidden the fact that she's keen to marry in the family.

Anyway. That's pretty much all I've got for now. Flameo.

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I read this comment this morning, and I was all, "No way, Jose." Then, as it's been stewing around in my brain all day, I suddenly realized I will NEVER be able to read about Vetinari without picturing LJK. So, basically, my love for Terry Pratchett and Kdramas have collided in that one perfect eye-liner'd moment of menacing LJK.

There are worse things to happen, and this ensures I will never forget this drama or that moment, so thanks for that comment!

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so good to see ljk's glorious face. <3

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