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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

Hello party people, it’s time for another team check-in! This week, new dramas rolled in, which I was eager to check out, while older dramas stepped it up and got more interesting, so overall I was left with a pretty happy feeling in my little corner of dramaland. Of course, some shows gave higher highs than others, but I find that the good thing about dramaland is that goodwill from one show can often spill over and make me feel happier about the others — or at least, dull the negatives. I hope your week was equally cheer-inducing… but if not, that’s okay, tea and sympathy is what we’re good for. –javabeans

 

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Currently recapping: Moonlight Drawn By Clouds

Fantastic: I’m eager for the cancer secret to be out so the couple can start enjoying some quality time together while they can, because while petty jealous is funny, I like that they bring out the best in each other when they’re on the same side. And as much as I hate Park Shi-yeon’s in-laws, I actually think this is the best way to do drama villains: They’re suuuper easy to hate, and you know she’s going to get her comeuppance eventually so there’s a grim satisfaction in watching them abuse her now with the anticipation of their eventual downfall. (It had better be epic.) It sounds like everyone’s committed to Ji-soo keeping his ultimate storyline intact, and I couldn’t be gladder, since I’m dying for Park Shi-yeon’s comeback arc and his place in it.

Cinderella and the Four Knights: I’d found it really hard (I mean, really hard) to keep going with this show for weeks, but I finally got past the hump (Episode 6) and it felt like it turned a corner; I proceeded to binge-watch the rest and am actively looking forward to new episodes. The show is silly, no doubt, but it’s not without its light-hearted charms, and at some point the relationships finally started grabbing my interest. Probably about the time Jung Il-woo got over his sulking and started smiling.

Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: This show can at times be so exciting and compelling that it’s jarring when it abruptly shifts gears and loses its focus with all those other characters I don’t care about, who take up so much time. I don’t know why, when the Su and So show is so frequently electric — although I will admit that my opinion on IU (as generally fine) did take a hit when I saw this come along to show us what-if. I’m wistful over what could have been if this drama had a director who had a better handle on its material and tone. And knew to take a goddamned master shot every once in a while.

Drinking Solo: I love Park Ha-sun; she’s adorable and shameless and unembarrassable, which sure comes in handy when you’re a rom-com heroine. I’m already feeling pangs for Gong Myung’s noona-crush, but am determined to at least enjoy his cheerful puppyness while it lasts. And the two gosiwon fools are turning into a scene-stealing Odd Couple to remember, which is always good for at least one laugh that pops up out of nowhere.

Shopping King Louis: I spent the first half of the show wondering, “What the heck?” But it helps to recalibrate expectations from “standard contemporary rom-com” to “absurdist fantasy comedy that takes place in a parallel world where people react differently to everything.” It reminds me of Modern Farmer (with way less toilet humor), in that it does require a full buy-in of the world and its unrealistic tone, but can be quirky and fun once you accept it.

On the Way to the Airport: I thought the premiere was well-done, and I like that the tone is thoughtful without being overly melodramatic. I was on the fence about watching the show because the premise alone didn’t grab me, but the show was executed well enough to keep me going for now. I do find it odd that the director keeps insisting it’s not an adultery drama, though — ‘cause technically speaking, married people falling in love with people who aren’t their spouses is the textbook definition of adultery. I mean, I want Kim Haneul and Lee Sang-yoon to leave their weirdly terrible spouses and be happy together too, but let’s not ignore the meaning of words here.

 

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Cinderella and the Four Knights: I’m still not sure I believe the “why” behind anything in this drama, but there’s a sweet underdog charm to this show, plus now I’m at the cute part, and I’d be stupid to quit when I’ve finally gotten to the cute part!

Drinking Solo: Sometimes the heroine frustrates me when she doesn’t stand up for herself, but she’s just so endearing, and the show always manages to put a smile on my face with its relatable, everyday comedy. I can’t wait until Ha Suk-jin is stewing in jealousy at the puppy romance. But most importantly, I want a Gong Myung for me.

Moonlight Drawn By Clouds: I feel an angsty turn coming ‘round the bend, so I’m going to bask in the swoon for as long as humanly possible, and then wait until javabeans tells me it’s safe before I watch the next episode.

Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: It took four weeks, but I’m finally interested in something—the heroine having visions of Wang So’s future as King Gwangjong, and being conflicted about it. I just wish she’d do something smart with her limited knowledge of history instead of flailing all the time.

Jealousy Incarnate: I love Jo Jung-seok in love. It makes my insides all gooey. He’s still a petty fool, but now he’s a petty fool in love, and he’s totally won me over. True to its promise, Jealousy Incarnate is doing jealousy in every incarnation possible—petty, embarrassing, funny, angsty—and now in the moving way that tugs at all the right heartstrings.

On the Way to the Airport: I checked out the first two episodes, mostly because of my stubbornly unending crush on Lee Sang-yoon post-Liar Game. It’s a beautiful show that piques my curiosity (namely, why is Jang Hee-jin such a terrible mom?), and lingers on the emotional beats in a good way. It’s a solid contemporary melodrama, though I can’t promise I’ll still be here if it ever turns into a tearfest.

Shopping King Louis: I almost wish I’d seen the ever-so-slightly-saner second episode first, without seeing the first one. This show starts out really crazy and weird, but by the second episode the leads meet and there’s a cheery, easygoing dynamic there that I want to come back for. It’s still a show I find hard to take seriously, but Seo In-gook is awfully adorable as a lost puppy, even one that seems a few marbles shy of a full set.

 

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Currently recapping: Cinderella and the Four Knights

Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: This was the week I learned about the two different cuts floating around…and urgh! I was not pleased to say the least. However, I still look forward to this show every week, and after I finish both episodes, I scramble to YouTube to watch any and all behind the scenes footage. I love me some bloopers!

 
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What was that video, JB? What was that video, and why were we not given that drama?

Don't get me wrong, I love SH:R. Love it way too much. Well, love a a few people way too much. One person. Fine. I love one person. I love him awful, Ma.

If we had THAT drama, though...maybe I couldn't handle it. I think I couldn't. I would die trying, though.

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@Javabean, @JoAnne

Thank you for the link to that video. I wish whoever made that video did the editing or better still, directing for scarlet heart: ryeo.

This video is a gem.... @JoAnne, I feel you, why weren't we given this show instead?

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Can someone translate please??? I watched it but, alas... At least it SEEMED pretty good!

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Seriously I feel like crying now after that video. Didn't understand one word but understood every single emotion SYJ conveyed in those two minutes. ???

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I know right? That's REAL acting. It's sad that IU needs lines to act while SYJ didn't even...I mean, I didn't understand a single narration in the YT video but the emotion's there!

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That video is AWESOME!!! Thank you for the link @Javabeans

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HOMYGOD. I'd watch this SH:R. ???

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Oh. Snap.

That was good.

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THAT VIDEO!!

I seriously often imagined how SHY would act if she were to act as Soo.

It was fantastic, and i probably could take soo more seriously and understand her more. Sorry, but IU, i didn't buy your soo.

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OMG I do like IU but last episode indeed made me think of the what-if! And coincidentally I thought of Seo Hyun Jin too. The video you post is daekbak jb!

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what exactly is good? I dont get it. the editing?

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The female lead's acting and emotions conveyed by her facial expression and voice alone. :)

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The lead actress, the editing, the music (and the plot, they even changed BA's girl as well). Everything!! Why am I not watching drama ;(

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Moonlight has been amazing and blissful lately, so I'm also worried they're about to take it all away from us! hahaha.

Cinderella and the Four Knights finally has a plot that is moving forward so I am excited to see where it goes from here! Ji Woon and Ha Won fighting!

Haven't started Shopping King Louis or On the Way to the Airport, but I'm really excited to! Unfortunately school has required more of my time and therefore less dramas :( lol

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Oh, forgot to mention Jealousy Incarnate. I'm glad that the jealousy is getting more involved in the show. It'll be interesting to see how everything gets resolved in this love triangle we have. Haha.

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Moonlight ep 11 preview is finally up yesterday and urgh I sense the angst coming.

So far the PD hasn't given us any heavy makjang-y angst episode though so I am still hoping they would not be so cruel to us (like Oh Hae Young).

As I paraphrase from Crown Prince, you should not be mean to puppies!

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I think I saw an interview somewhere in the depths of YouTube where Bo Gum said that he wanted to do the drama because of its fun, lighthearted story...and another interview where he said Moonlight was a sad story.

So. Okay.

Will I be fine for the rest of this drama???

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Moon Lovers - while everyone is still talking about that kiss, I'm still thinking about Su's CC cream.

Moonlight - more swoon, more fun. Also, that cliffhanger.

Jealousy Incarnate - if anyone deserves the credit, its Jo Jung Seok! The guy is amazing! Also, that whistling yee- hee song/sound is hilarious.

Cinderella - the debate on Ji-woon's sweater: is it pink or is it not pink?

Shopping King Louis - newset fluff on the block

Re-watching

- beautiful gong shim
- oh hae young
- fated to love you

I have time to spare so yay for kdramas!!

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Close to dirty pink I'd say.

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I'm surprised how much I'm liking Shopping King Louis. The title makes it sound like a show for teenagers, juvenile and silly. But it's actually hilarious and fun, and turns the "damsel in distress" cliche upside down. The two leads are great.

I love that both Shopping King Louis and Cinderella & 4 Knights are allowing two great young actresses Park So Dam and Nam Ji Hyun to shine. These shows are pretty silly, but they are really proving they have what it takes to carry a show. I had been sad for a while that there weren't any 20s actresses I was willing to watch a drama for, but now I think I have found two!

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Shopping King Louis had me the 1st 2 episodes so i'm really on board with this. It's so fun and light. The female lead is endearing and of course SIG! Another series that caught me this week is The K2!!!! Explosive Ep1! Nice to see a very manly JCW.

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Moon Lovers is Rivetting
MDBC is cute

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The lost Puppy is precioussssssssss.

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Love reading reading this section every week :)

Shopping King Louis: Grandma's "My Precious" was just so unexpected and hilarious. I love how she and Louis truly love each other, even if it means Grandma makes some misguided decisions on his behalf. Also love, love, love that while Louis is a chaebol, he's most definitely not your typical chaebol. He's kind, sweet, only possessive of things not people, nice to his staff, silly, cute and just such a softie. While I'm still not 100% hooked on the story I'll definitely watch to the end for Louis and SIG alone if nothing else. Nam Ji Hyun is doing a good, if not that memorable job so far. Yoon Sang Hyun - I love ya, but wtf is going on?

Moonlight Drawn by Clouds: Behind a week yet again. If only I was a PBG fan, I might not be behind. At first I thought it was simply due to the SIG-effect that I wasn't as taken with him after IRY as everyone else, but after watching R88 and now this, it seems that while I don't fault his acting, I never really connect with him either. The female lead (haven't seen her before, so forget her name, sorry) isn't really wowing me either yet. I like all the other characters though, expect for Jinyoung's grandpa, so will probably catch up at one point.

Healer: Finally, finally, finally finished watching this. Had to start over. Reached the end and wished I'd never watched it. First half had me completely uninterested and the potential the second half showed to engage me and have some heartbreaking moments, like YJT asking JCW if he even had any friends, was completely wasted. Ultimately dissatisfying. Cinematography, editing, acting, writing all felt lacking, even YJT despite my love for his great acting in TGW. And the soundtrack was just plain awful and often misplaced. All in all - this was all show-off and no substance.

Me Too, Flower!: When will the misery enddd???? Once someone became the villain it all went down the drain. Also don't feel the romance. And... I love YSY, but... his angry scenes make me laugh. So, so, very much. And also his sad scenes which look almost the same as his angry ones. And Jia's laugh is just cringeworthily fake. But only five episodes to go, wish me luck!

No currently airing dramas other than the two above are really catching my interest, so I'm waiting for new ones to come along. Not that optimistic about The K2 though, as JCW and Yoonah doesn't do anything for me and the teasers made me go "meh".

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For Kim Yoo-jung (the female lead in Moonlight), I recommend the KBS drama special The Dirge Singer. She was excellent in that.

Jinyoung reminds me of Park Shi-hoo. I can't get behind his character.

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Thanks for the rec, I'll put it on my list :)

Park Shi Hoo? How so?

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I think it's because they look alike, at least in sageuk garb. Someone pointed it out and now I can't get the image out of my head. Not the actor's fault, but it's just a bit eugh.

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The only thing I've seen him in was Neighborhood Hero, where he doesn't look anything like Jinyoung and most definitely isn't wearing sageuk clothing :P

I also tend not to pay much attention to what actors do and don't do off screen and as I obviously wasn't privy to any of the stuff that went on with Park Shi Hoo and his scandal, I don't make judgements on what kind of person he is and so it doesn't bother me to watch him act, let alone having another actor look like him (not that I don't get why others don't feel the same way). For me an actor as a person and an actor as an actor are two seperate things.

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I think that's a great approach to have, I wish I could be as impartial but I haven't reached that zen level yet. His scandal aside, I just don't really like PSH as an actor and he tends to give me the creeps.

As for Jinyoung, I think he's doing fine in Moonlight, but I don't really like his character much, it's kind of meh.

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I wasn't too fond of him in NH, he didn't annoy me, but he wasn't that great either. But the whole show was one big mess, so I don't know if it was him or the director/writer/etc at fault for not leaving a lasting impression.

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Thanks for bringing The Dirge Singer again. I had it on my list for later, and it got buried. About to watch it now.

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It's lovely. I hope you enjoy it :)

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Some actors or actresses just don't do it for you, like how Lee Jun-ki never appeal to me, I tried watching some of his dramas, but never gotten into him, not even Moon Lovers.

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He doesn't do it for me either.

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Me too. I've not been able to finish any of his dramas. Maybe because he picks duds? Dropping his current one too. I tuned-in in hopes that the re-make might transcend the original but ....the less said, the better.

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Coincidentally, I recently realized that I was never a fan/don't deserve to call myself a fan of LJK. I liked him since King and the Clown and I think he's absolutely mesmerizing in sageuk, but I don't religiously follow his filmography. Time commitment was an issue for me, but my liking was definitely never strong enough to pull me through SWWTN or Moon Lovers. If I were a true fan, I wouldn't have dropped Moon Lovers. But LJK is not keeping me from leaving and nothing else is.

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yep, finally someone who agrees with me about Healer. I just couldn't get into the show, it seemed a) predictable b) shallow with a plot that was far too simplistic for the theme, and c) the acting bordered on annoying. I just don't get why everyone here found it so amazing, unless it's because it was full of a lot of pretty (and ji chang wook) but if that was the reason i'd say just watch Empress Ki and give Healer a miss.

I like Moonlight drawn by Clouds because its sweet, but haven't been hooked by it yet and can't say I like much else on offer right now either. I wonder if it's because my tastes are evolving or dramas are playing it safer or I've watched too many to find them new or exciting...

shopping king louis seems fun but has the typical signs of a drama that may soon run out of steam or into cliches or both...

scarlet heart - i'm sorry I just couldn't. Even the fan translated novel is better, maybe I'll just wait to learn Mandarin.

jealousy incarnate - funny but also painful and often cringe-inducing. The same goes for Drinking Solo except its painful moments are dealt with better. Dropped Jealousy Incarnate but still watch Solo if I have food in hand because I like its characters.

I've actually switched back to American shows and Japanese anime to find something fun to watch again. Currently watching Mr. Robot, One Piece, Futurama, Ore Monogatari and Rick and Morty (it's for kids but it's weird enough for adults and quite fun)

I was enjoying a mainland chinese drama LoveO2O based on a novel by the same author as BBJX (Scarlet Heart Ryeo) but abandoned it mid way (even abandoned its movie adaptation midway - it's called 'Just one smile is very alluring') so maybe I'm just in that sort of mood, but if you've anything different, original or exciting to recommend (in k,j,t,c, or even thai drama) please do.... I'm sick of not being able to stick to anything ;_;

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wait wait hold on, in WHAT WAY is Rick & Morty for children???? it is incredibly grotesque, vulgar, creepy and i mean need i even go on omg? I genuinely like the show but I wouldnt let a child anywhere near it omg....

is Gu Man really the same writer for BBJX? o_o wow its such a diff genre that's p amazing if so. I saw all of Love020. its cute but not like Must See tv. and i suspect the novel would be more fun to read, if only cuz i assume it meanders/drags on less. (also the dialogue is very witty)

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BBJX author is by Tong Hua.
Just One Smile is Very Alluring is by Gu Man. Just a correction, nothing more.

I recommend Come Eat Shan Shan (same author: Gu Man) if that's what you like.

In terms of action or darker tone dramas, I would say Disguiser or Nirvana in Fire (some actors play in both dramas). There's also Three Kingdoms, but that drama is detailed in that it's based on Warring States period where they employ strategies (and so it's historical) and might require more attention when watching.

Qin Empire 3 and Storms of the Prophecy would be similar dramas... if they had an air date lol.

For quirky and somewhat perverted drama, Go Princess Go works because my goodness, there were some weird (like just flat out random) and steamy scenes (not too steamy lol).

If you want to venture into Hong Kong,

A Fist Within Four Walls (martial arts drama)

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ahh sorry about that, something I'd read led me to believe the authors were the same, my mistake... I've heard of Come and eat Shan Shan, the premise sounds sweet and funny I'll try it. I must say I find mainland Chinese dramas have much better actors than Taiwanese dramas... the last Tdrama I tried - Bromance, couldn't stomach the cringe-worthy ham acting or forced conversations.

and thanks bananachocolate for all your recommendations! I've been meaning to watch Nirvana in Fire after hearing a lot about it, guess I have to give it a go now :] Go princess go sounds hilarious as well, will check it out.

As for Hong Kong martial arts my favs are from the comedy genre - Shaolin Soccer and Kung Fu Hustle, so let me know if you've a martial arts comedy to recommend. Not much into people beating each other without getting a laugh out of it :P

Also, I had never tried Chihayafuru the anime, but recently a movie based on it has come out (japanese) and it's really great, so thinking of picking up the anime too now. I'd also recommend it :] It's like Hikaru no Go but with a love triangle and without a heartbreaking end (hopefully)

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Contrarian, You want a Kung Fu comedy? How about the parody "Kung Pow! Enter the Fist" It is one of my top 10 favorites. My kids watched it so much they would perform the dialogue during our long car rides. Kept me in stitches!

From Wiki: Kung Pow! Enter the Fist is a 2002 American martial arts comedy film that parodies Hong Kong action cinema. Written, directed by and starring Steve Oedekerk, it uses footage from the 1976 Hong Kong martial arts movie Tiger and Crane Fist (also called Savage Killers), along with new footage shot by Oedekerk, to create an original, unrelated plot.

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Oooo - Thanks for the recommendations. My fav is Shan Shan Comes to eat. Lately, I have been addicted to Chinese and Tawainese dramas, but trying to find a super solid one is a bit of a roll of the dice. I wish Dramabeans reviewed them (I know they are too busy - just wishful thinking).

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Honestly I was surprised to see Healer was (and still) loved with majority of beanies here. That show I was simply left after few episodes because nothing captivated me.
But yes everyone has different taste and preference.I still think it is because of Ji Chang Wook that it got really popular.

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I'm pretty surprised too, especially with all the ranting about how undeserved its low ratings were. To me the ratings for once make perfect sense.

Not really feeling the JCW effect, so that makes me wonder as well. Guess this show just didn't really have anything to draw me in, though on paper it has all the right elements.

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Why do we have same views regarding most of dramas? are we bro/sis from another mother? Healer's Music actually created good interest in me and shallow action scenes were hilarious.

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I was there for Park Min Young honestly O,O

And the plot about kind superhero O,O

I don't get the hate Healer got too so...

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"[predictable and] ... shallow with a plot that was far too simplistic for the theme..."

Exactly how I felt about the plot. The plot never made me wonder what really happened or how they were all connected. I felt like it wanted to be intricate and enigmatic, but failed compeltely.

Glad it's not just me being weird in not liking it!

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For me, the plot was entertaining and the show was shot beautifully, but the music and fight scenes seemed at odds. They chose some down best songs that made the fights seem a bit slower somehow. I couldn't help but compare it to City Hunter's first pumping actions sequences that got the adreline rushing. That said, I think because if that off-beat style it seemed to hit a nerve with lots of other people, and I am glad they found their happy place with it.

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Oops - Down-beat songs

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Most trolls on this website are shallow and stupid. They have no clue what a good drama should look like. :P

I just come here for laughs....:)

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well, I didnt like Healer and said so when it aired but that was treated like a crime by fans of the show during the time it was airing.
and I never cared enough to explain myself. I am bored just listing the reasons.

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Healer - 5 months have passed and i'm still stuck at episode 17. I enjoyed many moments of the show but overall it is just not meant to be a action, hidden things drama. Same goes for City Hunter. I think 20 episodes were just too much.

Me Too, Flower - Stuck at episode 6 for past many months. I just don't get this slow,dragged and absurdly edited show. Acting is pretty bad in many of the scenes.
Emotional scenes have no impact at all.

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Agree, Healer could have been much shorter, maybe even 16 episodes, without suffering.

Same on MTF. It's such a terrible drama. The beginning was okay, but after the first two episodes it just got worse and worse. I hope YSY has been better in past roles, because this is just making me cringe. He was alright at first when the show didn't demand much emotion from him, but he really don't do passionate scenes well. I heard he was good in Mirror of the Witch though.

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Waah! I want that third version and not just a what-if!!! Please someone tell me that there's a third version of the entire drama that the director isn't aware of! Haha. Salute to the editor.

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Moon Lovers: A third version with a different director and editor! Yes! Pretty please with cherry on top! I think my bewilderment with the acting of IU/every actor but LJK and KH if there weren't so many close-up shots or fuzzy shots that make me go "what am I supposed to be looking for?" (While I loved watching the alternate MV, for some reason she seems too old to be acting in the drama as Soo.)

Airport: JB, You killed me with this-"I do find it odd that the director keeps insisting it’s not an adultery drama, though — ‘cause technically speaking, married people falling in love with people who aren’t their spouses is the textbook definition of adultery. I mean, I want Kim Haneul and Lee Sang-yoon to leave their weirdly terrible spouses and be happy together too, but let’s not ignore the meaning of words here." This exactly! I watched for the cast but I can't get over the storyline.

I am still trying to find a good drama. Maybe K2 will fill my dramahole...

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Glad I am not the only one who feels this way about airport. I like the actors a whole lot, and I like the emotion, the way the drama is filmed, and the underlying relationship mysteries so far, but I really don't get into adultery dramas. I'm hoping this is a case of they make a connection/friendship/share non-romantic moments but no romance until after they leave their respective spouses for good reason.

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Airport doesn't look like an ordinary Korean adultery drama. I hate those myself. So far, I only see two lonely, wounded human souls and hearts connecting, reaching for some warmth the don't get in their spouses. A good thing to remember, while we owe our loyalty and support to our spouses (if they do the same for us) we weren't born to be their serfs, nor nannies. A government or church sponsored relationship in which a person (female or male) is simply used for sex, rearing children, money, or other conveniences while being unloved (or not loved enough) is nothing less to a serf-beholden-to-a-lord contract. Human beings shouldn't tolerate serfdom. If someone finds their soulmate or freedom later in live, they should not let that chance vanish.

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Reminded me of Yong-sama and Son Ye-jin in movie April Snow.

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I don't necessary mind these kinds of stories as long as it's not 16 episodes long. Just finished the J drama Seisei Suruhodo which also has an 'adultery' theme but even 45-min 10 episodes of this thing was wayyyy tooo long for me. For currently airing K dramas, I learned to read all the recaps first before deciding if I should watch them or not. Don't want to waste too much time if the plot went downhill in the end. Of course if the show has one of my ultimate favorites (Seo In Guk), I'll watch it no matter what! :)

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I watch bits of Jealousy Incarnate if I so happen to catch it on tv, and the main love triangle is pretty compelling even though I don't suffer from SLS. Jo Jung-seok is very watchable as Hwa-shin and I'm liking his portrayal. I also like Seo Ji-hye even though her character is kinda meh.

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Ruh-roh, did you just diss Healer in a DB thread? Hike up your skirt and run! (I never got past the first episode myself.)

I'm liking Yoon Sanghyun's clothing, I enjoy when fashion crosses over into the ridiculous. Like the pajama trend that's happening now, haha.

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Whoops, comment fail. Meant to reply to @Kaybee.

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I know. I must like to live dangerously. I always make unpopular comments on popular shows. I decided not to wear skirts long ago so that I can run from the wrath of Beanies when I make these kind of comments.
But....
Is it bad that I kind of enjoy when I get to be contrary? :P

The first time I didn't get past ep 3. I should've just left it at that...

YSH's clothing isn't bad I think, it's pretty fun, but his character is making go "huh?". I just don't feel like he's a person, more like a function there to act out plot machinations.

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grrrrr @you. double dose :P

myself, i'm watching ML:SH:R - i'm assuming the what if drama on YT has cecilia liu in it instead of IU?

aaaand the K2 (JCW is finally back!!)

obviously once i've watched it (raw) and then treated myself with two hours of cat shenanigans on YT, suddenly there's a sub. what can i do, it's fate. i'll have to watch it all over again "le sigh"

the premiere was a huge surprise for me - i don't think i watched a cable drama before, except OCN's bad guys. the style is COMPLETELY different than what i'm used to. i like it a lot. characters seem to have substance.

and also, the first ep was 80% action. i could swear JCW is trained to the gills in martial arts. did i read somewhere he's black belt or something? i really like those moves. i wonder if they're real - do people actually use them or are they just for show?
on the fence about the female younger lead. she didn't have a lot to do here, let's hope she does next time.

and that's it. no more time to invest in dramas...

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no wait, that's LJK with a black belt in taekwondo...

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Lee Jong Suk too.. if I'm not mistaken.

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After w I cannot believe ljs has a black belt in tying his shoes.

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I can testify how tired he looks these days.. Poor guy is working hard with drama, CFs, pictorials, etc. And in 2016 alone he already has 2 dramas back to back with many martial arts/action scenes. That's why I can understand if he wants to step back from action dramas for a while.
In ep 1 alone, The K2 consists of 80% of action.

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Ji Chang Wook even got higher than Queen of Cannes so I think it must be because a lot of action scenes.

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i actually thought the action was too much in this case. only first ep, and he's already been in like, 4? 5? life and death fights with different teams.. and the liberal use of 360 camera angles actually made me feel nauseous. they've taken 'action drama' too literally methinks

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I just love the relentless of the action sequences. It simply refuses to let up. I've never seen anything like this anywhere! :P

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you have not watched cable dramas except bad guys and the k2?? Im genuinely curious (and slightly shocked) but is there a particular reason for it? Cable has really established themselves in recent years (esp TVN) and their quality is superb.

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there was nothing to catch my eye and keep my attention, despite the raving reviews. there were cruel city and misaeng, but CC despite starting really well was sooooo dark in a period when i didn't need any extra darkness cause i had my own, and misaeng is just not my cup of tea.

i did read the recaps, lol. it seems enough for me. but i haven't watched most of them, and now the k2's dealings with filming seem fresh :D which i seriously appreciate a lot.

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He's not black belter but he went to action school for two months in preparation for this drama. I must say all his effort is not wasted cuz his fight scenes came out really good. No doubles...I hope people acknowledge him for that.

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Scarlet Heart is flawed, but I still eagerly wait for the next episode. However, I don't know how they're going to make Soo fall for So when now she's like totally repulsed by him, and still completely in love with Wook. I'm made to believe that Wook-Soo is end-game while So is the pining, obsessive second lead, which is so weird because well, Lee Jun-ki.

I like SH more than Moonlight, to be honest. With the intense battle for the thrones looming in SH, I find that the conflicts in Moonlight seem very juvenile and don't quite hold my interest (the last few episodes, I've only let it play in the background while I do other things, which is definitely not a good sign).

As for Jealousy Incarnate, I finally know why SBS and KBS were fighting tooth and nail to have it. It has a good script, and with great performances from the actors all around, it makes for a very enjoyable rom-com watch.

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I agree about your sentiments for moon lovers and moonlight. For some reason moon lovers is like crack to me, while for moonlight l have already gone to rehab (I'm not as crazy about it anymore). I find myself somewhat bored with moonlight, while with moon lovers l'm eager and don't want it to end.

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@nana - exactly my feelings.. You put it so well. mDBC is much better edited and all that but I can live without it.Moonlight is like crack. Even though I don't like a lot of things about it , I'm addicted to it. And now that we get to see more LJK, I suppose my addiction is only going to go up. Ah wel.. Bye bye normal life

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I also thought Moonlight would be my crack until I started watching Scarlet Heart. We have KBS World so I watched Moonlight on TV, by episode 5 (I think) my tv was tuned in to MDBC but my full attention was at the live recap at Soompi forums for MLSHR. I have never looked back since then.

Now I watch MLSHR SBS raw at midnight, the wrongly subbed SBS / international version by noontime, then the adjusted SBS subbed version in the late afternoon. Threafter I go here, Soompi, Naver and Youtube for further discussions and videos.

I have never been so addicted ^_^

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Crack indeed!! Moon Lovers is flawed but amazing! The anticipation for each episode is killing me. I rewatch episodes and youtube every day for any new uncut scenes or to just get my fix. Moonlight is cute with two adorable actors. I don't need it and easily can wait to days to watch it. The storyline is too simple. Moon Lovers main storyline is so compelling and the lead actors are all very good. Loving LJK, Kang Haneul, IU ans Nam Joo Hyuk! The drama should have been extended and re-edited to include all important uncut scenes.

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feel precisely the same for all three dramas,

and i think i am going with new def of a infalliable good drama = cast gong hyo jin :P

every other actor seems to have atleast one weird drama to their name

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It's different for me. I like Moonlight moore than Scarlet Heart. Moonlight is perfect drama, there's not any flawless so far and at every ending of each episode giving so much climax from that episode story line that make audience curious about the next episodes will be. However, as you said, Scarlet Heart is flawed except for LJK and KHN act, began from the others actor act, camera directing, music directing, until the producing of the drama. I just watch the video that Javabeans share and really love it from the first time watching it, it's so good and began to wondering what-if there's Scarlet Heart that have all thing like that it'll become a perfect drama too with no flawless.

For now I always waiting for mon-tues to watch Moonlight Drawn By Clouds to know the next story and then go to dramabeans for it's comments that always make me nod along when read it. As for Moon Lovers : Scarlet Heart, I like to read the recap to follow it's story without watching it and go to the comment section to read some complaint, excuse, and explanation from beanies here.

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*there's not any flaw so far (flawless)

*it’ll become a perfect drama too with no flaw.

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Mee too! I'm hooked to one moon now that is Moon Lovers. I couldn't get to the 2nd eps of Moonlight. Despite all the flaws, I always have myself coming back for recaps, YT vids, stills, predictions, assumptions. I religiously lurk in DB&soompi too. Bubye real life! :((

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Totally hooked on Airport! Can't wait for new eps!

My drama-watching game has been super weak lately. I thought for sure with school out of the way = more time for dramas, but now work's taking up all my time and I'm so lazy to get into new shows...

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Javabeans. Oh that's mean. Now I want to weep. I marathoned ep 1 to 7 Moon lovers last week. And still can't get over the close ups and jarring music. Then have been keeping mum over IU because her wide eyed looks was so blank. I even went back to BBJX and the sequel to cry my eyes out. Then someone replied to me that IU was chosen precisely because she has to give that expressionless look at the ep 7 cliffhanger.

I knew it. I knew it. I knew that she was supposed to emote and I tried so hard to ignore her all 9 episodes. And focus on the storyline instead. But the video haa made me cry in my heart. I don't follow ML BTS because the storyline will get darker. But it's just heartbreaking to see that video. J didn't know about it. But it's just heartbreaking for me as a fan to watch it. I am actually going back there to watch it. Again. To get the feels of the scenes I didn't get. Who is this genius and talented fan?

Sometimes, ok most of the time, I wish casting was done on merit instead of financial success consideration. It's not as if the Korean drama industry is short of talent.

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Darn the editing is good. I watched it once without audio and the emotions are all there in their eyes and facial expressions. Plus the scene transitions editing so smooth. Thanks for putting it under this post. Makes me feel better that it could be better. Will watch out for more fan videos. Then the storyline and the stupid music choices might suit the mood.

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I want to know whoever the hell the Scarlet Heart actual editor is. And just what they were imbibing when they did those scene cuts/music choices.

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The real tragedy of IU's casting is that she CAN emote, and did it to excellent effect in Producer just last year. But the PD is going for these weird OTT expressions from everyone except Lee Jun-ki and Kang Haneul, and it really does a massive disservice to the younger actors.

And it's not just IU- if I hadn't seen Ji-soo in Angry Mom and Sassy Go Go last year, I'd be under the impression that he couldn't act at all.

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Maybe...she doesnt have wide rage for acting? She was and idol groomed since she was a fetus, its not difficult pulling Cindy character since she can relate so much with her.

Not sure about Jisoo but if I hadnt seen Page Turner, I'll also think he is one trick pony when it comes to acting. And dont get me started on Exos, except DO, the rest of them are cringey to watch.

Both LJK and KHN are killing it in the drama so I chalked up those terrible acting for lack of experience. Maybe because its their first saeguk?

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Cindy wasn't defined by being "an idol" - what she was was a complex, nuanced character who basically carried the storyline for the latter half of the show, and did it so well that no one cried Cheese on her. And as people have pointed out, more often than not her state of mind was expressed only though her facial expressions and body language - and IU pulled that off perfectly.

There's no other explanation for why the very thing she was so good at in her last drama is the aspect that becomes the problem with her performance here, other than the PD's instructions.

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The only explanation: it's the start of the zombie epidermic - everyone's turning...

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Idol, singer, entertainer or whatever 'term' you'd like to call it. They all are performers with different skills and they will experience similar ups and down in the industry.

Just because someone is an idol (real life or fictional character wise) doesn't mean they can't be complex or nuanced people.

Her previous stellar performance was the result of her ability to relate the character with her own self/struggle as an entertainer whereas her lackluster acting on ML is the result of her lack in experience in my opinion.

If PD's to blame here then all of everyone perfomance should be lacking as well. But that doesn't explain why veteran like LJK or KHN still deliver their acting, does it?

Rather than blaming others, IU fans should just admit there is something is amiss in her acting so she can improves in the future.

From what I've seen, no matter what are their original debut professions (idol or not), the public will always gives credit when it's due. Im Shi Wan, Hwang Jeng Eum, DO, and many other idols who get compliment for their acting are just some of the examples.

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YES. THIS.

It's not that IU can't act, she can. I just don't understand how in the world a girl who did so well in her past roles can't 'be scared' or 'be sad' enough to not look awkward. I just feel so indignant for her and some of the cast because it's so obvious that their director and editor are the ones pulling them down.

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That's what frustrates me - IU can be pitch perfect with the microexpressions but Kim Kyu-tae is actively going for a huge downgrade on that. I mean, the girl isn't perfect but she's no Suzy, emotion was never her problem before.

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I have watched 3 dramas with IU and didn't complain about her. But the freaking wide eyed ( till her whole pupil is visible ) is terribly distracting. I want to feel for Hae Soo. I want her to be frightened or in love. Or conflicted. Or terrified. Or amused. Or bewildered.

Unfortunately in this drama the expressions are all look the SAME. By the way I do not like any of the actors here. Like as in fan girling. So I am here purely to see the Korean version so that I can have nice drama to watch. But it's a bit hard to rewatch anything when you suddenly get close ups at inappropriate moments. Or rap music in the middle of a scene. Then with the director's love of close ups. Plus IU's really big eyes. It really takes me out of the moment if the actor can't emote and it's even more glaring when its THERE close up.

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I think Cindy is close to idol nature but I agree she has a short range by other drama she is in,

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This girl can act. From the first time I saw her acting in My Name is Lee Soon Shin I knew she can act she just need to polish her acting skill.

I want to believe that it is a poor directing, and she probably is too nervous for her first sageuk..I get some actors probably not comfortable to do sageuk,.and as a result the performance is just so-so.

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Moon Drawn: I just love this show that i experience anxiety attacks, but lets call a spade, Kdrama's tend to self destruct. It will start going very good and they will just do something to ruin it. I am currently in love with PGB.

Moon Lovers: I have a hate/love this show. I am a die hard LJK fan, the first few episodes nearly nearly made me drop the drama, and when i finally start seeing my Prince SO being happy, they had to show SU the future...urgghhhhh

Jealousy Incarnate: Hands down it is one of the perfect dramas that you actually hate anyone except the SBC staff (weather). JJS is he crazy. How can he act so perfectly. The Bromance, the bickering, the pettiness, jealousy,...i just LOVEEEEE this drama.

Louis: Epi 1 was bad or weird. Epi 2 made up for it.

On the Way to the Airport: Interesting, can't wait to find out the story behind everyone.

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i am currently out of dramas to watch...

currently watching moonlight, moon lovers, k2, way to airport, jealousy, shopping king Louise.

finally watched healer, stopped at ep 17 and jumped to ep 20.

Pinocchio, was wondering why i didn't watch it in the first place. watched doctors.

any suggestions beanies?

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Beanies,
May i suggest watching Love o2o... It has amazing swoon worthy moments. The storyline is fresh and modern. The OTP is like a dream couple.. Its gonna set new levels of relationship goals (OTPs like these are the reason I am still single) Also you may want to ignore the usual Chinese dramas flaws; but if you can overcome that then this drama is a sweet delight.
The entire series is released, so its a great binge watch for a weekend.
Watching the drama is one kind of pleasure, and discussing it with you all here is another additional fun. And I sooo want to gossip about this drama <3

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Tia, I know what you mean. After watching it I still revisit episodes everyday. And I mean everyday.

I actually just watched the movie version two days ago. It wasn't bad, there were some funny bits in it but the series is definitely better. The way the actors portrayed their characters in the series were better for me. Plus the story was more developed since it was so much longer.

Interesting fact about the main leads of the chinese drama Love Weaves Through A Millennium. She plays Bei Wei Wei in the TV series version and he plays Xiao Nai in the movie version of Love 020. How freaky.

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I heard a lot about the drama but... aren't the actor pretty bad?

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No but the acting is understated maybe, for wont of a better word. Its hard to say. Their characters are reserved and quiet.

But they are so good together, I haven't smiled so much in a long time. And the friends of both of them are fun to watch, especially the guys.

And its nice that there isn't any real angst that goes on. The good guys are smart enough to come out on top no matter what happens.

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Is this an on-going series? How many episodes are out already?

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It's fully completed at 30 episodes and 44 minutes each. But if you don't count the intro and exit it's 41 minutes.

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And if you don't count all the annoying nonsensical scenes it's 15-20 ;)

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dropped Moonlight Drawn by Clouds because the angst just doesn't work on me. Shopping King Louis is the only thing that's saving me right now.

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I also dropped this drama this week. This week I was just fast-forwarding both episode as I found there was nothing interesting to see. I lost interest because every episode seems so flat and repetitive. Anyways, Scarlet Heart has my whole heart right now. It got so freaking good and Im now devoted to it. That show is making my Mondays and Tuesday such a bliss '3

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Thinking of dropping MDBC this week too. Have you tried Jealousy incarnate? It's also a rom-com

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captivated by Airport. the rest are just ordinary

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Really hope someone on DB would recap this show.

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Hopefully!

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Oh, Moon Lovers. I enjoy it - a lot. It's my new crack drama, and I haven't had one of those since the Korean remake of Fated to Love You. (Maybe it's a remake thing?) But yeah... I've made my peace with Kim Kyu-tae's limitations at this point, but I'll always wonder what the drama would have been like with a different director. Some comments on Soompi give me the impression ML was almost a vanity project for him - like, ooh, I want to do something even more fusion with my fusion sageuk, because I'm so cool and edgy! And he talked about wanting to give the newer actors a ride on the Hallyu wave, which is probably why the international/original cut has more of them and less of the plot-important stuff. I am incredibly, incredibly curious to find out what his working relationship with SBS is like currently, and what it's going to like in the future, because the drama execs must be livid.

That said, I really enjoy IU as Hae Soo. I don't think she's the problem. I think KKT's direction exposes her limitations, as well, but I like her overall. I wonder what a version with a heroine who was more like the original's in terms of historical knowledge would have been like, though. I could see Park Eun-bin or Baek Jin-hee being a good fit. I sound like I'm way less satisfied with this show than I am, but I really love it, flaws and all. It's just one of those dramas that makes me wonder what COULD have been, and given all the time and $$$ that went into it, it shouldn't be. I wanted it to be (a) a shining example of pre-production done right and (b) a ratings hit, so we wouldn't have actors visibly exhausted halfway through the run of a drama. And it's not. Them's the breaks, I guess.

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I am enjoying Moon Lovers as well! Call me unrefined or whatever but I like Moon Lovers as it is. I haven't watch the Chinese version so I don't really have any point of comparison. But as an actress, IU is selling Hae Soo to me. I like her quirks and mannerisms. Of course there will be needs for improvement, especially when she's on closeup, because that director likes to do it so much. But those tight shots are very effective when it's on Lee Jun Ki. Like I have a gif of that bath scene sans mask, saved everywhere because it's so poignant and that one eye of Wang So evokes so much emotion from me, it gives me the energy to survive gruelling working days. I really love those tight shots. And the scenic shots are so picturesque. The OST wormed it's way to me, too. To be honest though, I hate the fact that Wang So has to share screen time with his brothers but I'm kindof warming up to Baek Ah. Hahahaha. Anyhoo, I'm really thankful for Moon Lovers, because it's been a while since I felt this way about a drama. You know, crack dramas who makes you marathon all the available episodes in anticipation for the next one. Crack dramas that makes you sleepwalk through the rest of your week after watching the episodes. And crack dramas that actually makes you look forward to Mondays. I love it too! Flaws and all!!!

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I also think IU is not the problem, and the problem is not only about directing but writing as well - or actually the writing is the main problem for me. I feel Hae-soo as a character is like a damsel in distress who tries a bit too hard to be interesting, but it's not convincing enough. The what-if for me is Hae-soo is written as wonderfully as in the original novel. Ruoxi in the novel is strong, smart, brave, understanding of others. She's calculative as well and knows how to deal with difficulties when no one is there to help, and at the same time she doesn't become unlikable. She doesn't easily become scared and show it to other people either. I also wished they could have done something about the bromance, because in the novel I could definitely feel their warmth and good-feeling toward each other before things turn around, but in Moon Lovers their bond even in the beginning seems kind of bland. Whoops but this is another topic. All in all, what I want to say is it would be nice if people could separate an actor's ability to act from the directing and writing etc to have better judgement of it.

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the thing with SKL (not South Korean Lover, but Shopping King Louie) is that you need to pay attention how they are playing. details like holding onto her sleeve and sitting outside a convenience store like an actual abandoned doggy... some lines said with such weight...

I really hope it continues the same way. Being cute, but also honest about the human struggle and sense of loneliness. They are so similar, these two.

I actually discovered Louie did one thing I do constantly in the museum... sniff other peoples´ coffee (for a while, I couldnt drink coffee bc of my stomach, so I satisfied with sniffing the smell. I ... well... I wonder if my colleagues wanted to jump and scream too, but held back OH MY DOG! did they see me like that? .... I usually comb my hair though...

anyway I am glad you can see through the pink filter - literally. lets cross our fingers...

with moon Lovers yes, less unimportant stuff that just feels like pointless flailing around.

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I'm curious since I can't drink coffee either - what was it about your stomach? I have acid reflux and an overactive gall bladder that cause me much distress!

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I also had acid reflux and it would have damaged the walls of my intestines at that point. I can drink acorn and lupin coffee though. instant kind.

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Gee, thanks a lot JB for that video ! Now I'm going to hope for someone to get those two in a drama together untill it happens. *side eye* lol

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JavaBeans, watching this What if video of Moon Lovers makes me wish that this is what the drama was. If it had been this I wouldn't have dropped it at Episode 5. Also I want more of these videos, I had no idea what they were saying but it gave me FEELS!!!!

P.S.~ How does a fan video on YouTube have better editing than Moon Lovers.

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I hope whoever was in the editor's chair for Scarlet Heart is never, ever allowed near another drama again. They're so unfit for the job, even fans can do better.

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The feels while watching that video were intense and it makes me truly sad that I got none of that in Moon Lovers.

As much as I love LJK, I dropped it as well around EP 5. IU is okay in my book. I think this is a case of bad directing. And because she acts opposite someone so good like LJK, the disparity in their acting abilities gets emphasized making it look like she's not good in acting when in fact she's okay. And then all other wrong decisions in the directing and editing make it even worse.

I read that article of blaming IU for the drama's failure which got ridiculously high upvotes (35k+) and I feel that it is so unfair for her to get all the blame. If we got a different actress, it may have been a lot better in the acting. However, if the editing and directing are still the same, then we'd still end up with a bad product.

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I initially thought IU was bad and then I went back and watched her Cindy. IU feels like those actors who need a good director to extract the stellar factor out in her. She isn't bad here just pales in comparison to the actors around her. Her chemistry is spot on with both but I wish, I wish somebody else was directing her. Having said that, I think she should do more dramas weekend or whatever comes her way before doing the heavy lifting again, because as it is magnifies her inexperience just like it happened with Beautiful Mind and Park So-Dam. She is definitely good but can't match the footstep of veterans and we can't expect her to.
Having said that, Why did I watch that fan edit. It will now forever be in my mind every time I watch the show now.

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Count me in those who have got so much feels watching javabean's posted video. That one was hell of a summary. The actors' and actresses' emotions click together like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. AOHY turned me off somewhere mid-drama but I didn't know SHY could blow me away with just a two-minute fan-made sageuk video! Gotta check out her other dramas soon.
Sageuk is a difficult genre and I don't blame IU, nor I think that she deserves all that hate. The girl can act but she does need more polishing in sageuk experience to carry her portrayal to a more artful level. Anyway I'd put even more blame on the PD and the writer for writing HS's character the way she has been written for the past 9 episodes. Somehow the character SHY was playing in the video appeals to me more than HS (and even RX). I've got a soft spot for shy but introspective, soft-nature but thoughtful, mature & self-contained girls. If HS was written that way it wouldn't even matter if a youthful looking actress or a seasoned actress plays the role to me tbh. I don't care that much about look (LSS didn't look like a 13-year-old girl either at the beginning of C-BBJX, and none of the lead princes looked like they were in their early twenties as depicted in the novel); what I care more is about characterisation and compelling & convincing portrayal. I agree with some previous comment that if the show had chosen to be artful instead of commercial, I'd be all down for it, with my complete body and soul.

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If you are looking for sageuks with Seo Hyun-jin then I'd recommend "The Duo" and "King's Daughter."

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@Kiara: Thanks for your recommendations. I'll definitely check them out :D

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I really really love Jealousy Incarnate, that show is just special. Jo Jung-seok is just so so good. ?❤ This love triangle is ridiculously compelling, no wonder the ratings went up! I can forsee them staying that way unless the storyline quality drops (which I highly doubt). I get so giddy and excited to watch it I actually delay watching it and watch other dramas to get ready for it lol. ?

Moon Lovers: Now that we've finally gotten to the Gwangjong storyline the show instantly became better. The show wasted too much time on setup and focusing so much on the minor characters. As long as the focus stays on Lee Jun-ki and the love triangle I'm happy.

Shopping King Louie: I really liked it! The first episode was so wacky but was also really charming and had me laughing out loud quite a bit throughout. The second ep, while more toned down, was still funny and sweet. I'll definitely keep watching this one as long as the storyline doesn't go awry.

Fantastic: Still watching, still liking it although it's not a fave. However I must admit I sometimes skip to just Park Si-yeon's scenes. ?? I like Jisoo's character but I hope his agency doesn't push too early to come back to set. He needs to focus on his health first. PSY will still get an awesome storyline no doubt. Sul's a badass!

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Excited to watch The K2. Hope it's good!

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Shopping King Louie reminds me of Wes Anderson's films. It's definitely charming w/ an offbeat humor.

SIG is the cutest beggar ever! I kept laughing when he switched to English; they're so unexpected and random. Now that's the proper way to use English in a Kdrama.

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Oh no, I'm sad the Butler's curly light brown hairstyle is gone in the second epsiode!

But wasn't SIG's hairstyle in episode one like a sculptural piece of artwork?

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I loved his hairstyle! Not one hair out of place. ?

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I love the offbeat humor! SIG is absolutely adorable here. And you're right about the use of random English, it's well done and not cringey at all.

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Oh my God! XD

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I love it when he speak French and English, sound so sexy to me lol......the funniest one is when he said she's crazy and closed his eyes with his hand.

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The random bits of English kind of reminds one of The Great Cheon Song Yi, doesn't it?

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I am actually reminded of Amelie.

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@V - I'm a bit late to the Jealousy Incarnate party, but ho boy, BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. I can't believe I nearly missed this well scripted/directed/well-acted/edited drama with AMAAAAZING OST.
Have you SEEN the kiss in Ep 14? Dunno when/how I will get over that.

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Cinderella : haven't watched the latest episode but somehow I loose interest in the drama as secretary got less screen time.

Gabsoon : Zzzz. Saw it coming when they were playing in the rain.. and the revelation was as expected. No surprise here.

Wolgyesu : what if Samdo and Sunnyeo adopt? I really want to see them as parents. Call me crazy but I feeeel like Taeyang has more chemistry with joyounhee character than lee dong jin..but I think he would end up with the sister in law.

Drinking Solo : Key is doing great. Can't wait for the romance to begin and totally knew how wife looks like hehe.

Jealousy : should I laugh or cry at Hwasin misery? Drama gods please please don't break our bromance. It's my OTP

Airport : the affair hasn't started yet. It's okay to watch for now. Can Sung Rok ever be less creepy? Haha.. Lee Sang yoon as a dad is super charming.

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Just watched the 1st episode of Shopping.

Gonna give it a miss. I don't hate it.. just not my kind of drama. Will 2nd episode change my feeling? Maybe.

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what if Samdo and Sunnyeo adopt? I really want to see them as parents. - Me too. For now I'm staying mostly for these two!

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Long time reader, first time commenter!

I'm an on and off kdrama watcher, who about once a year gets dragged back in and will watch/marathon for a few months before I snap out of my haze.

Jealousy Incarnate: Requisite watch due to my love for GHJ! Unlike a lot of viewers, I don't have SLS at all. It's been light and easy to watch, and I'm loving JJS in this (I loved him in K2H too...ahhh just thinking back to him as the most earnest soldier ever built...ahh).

Healer: Got through 9 episodes this week after being told that I *had* to get to this by my cousin. I'm pretty hooked...JCW is gorgeous and may just be my new kdrama boyfriend. I think so far it's better than City Hunter, so hopefully this ends well. This isn't a genre I normally gravitate towards in kdramas, so I'm surprised at how much I'm liking this (and also really liking the OTP).

Stairway to Heaven: I still have memories of my parents watching this when I was in high school (subbed in Chinese in the pre-dramafever/viki days haha) and telling my mom that she was being way too loud with her audible wailing. I asked her to recap what the hell was going on, since I couldn't read any of the subs, and she just kicked me out of the room haha. Cue to 12 years later, and here I am watching that opening with the carousel and ready to cry my eyes out.

The K2: Will definitely try this at least. *Quietvoice*I actually like Yoona (probably residual love from my days of listening to SNSD). She was totally fine in PM&I...that drama was just ruined by turning it makjang.

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Noooooo. You just reminded me of the most painful character death I've ever had to experience - you have no idea how hard I bawled when Eun Shi-kyung died. That was so hard to bare. Took me two weeks to get over it. And I'm still not 100% over it. I don't think I will ever recover, actually.

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No. Not that. That was heartbreaking. Fell in love with JJS there and it killed me when they killed him.

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I agree with the commenter above who said IU isn't the problem (after Cindy, I can believe that). Before they scrubbed her Wook storyline of anything resembling desire and before they shot Su's friendship with So to pieces by giving her visions, I was enjoying her with both.

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Agreed! I really like her chemistry with both. I don't think she's the problem either. It's the directing, writing and editing, sadly pretty much everything else. Sigh. We could've really had something with this show. It had all the makings of it anyway. I mean it's not a truly bad show, it has its good moments and Lee Jun-ki is definitely the draw but it could have been done so much better, it's definitely quite frustrating!

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I agree! There is a lovable aspect that IU gives to the character that I don't think any other actress could have done. Sadly, the writing and directing isn't using her full potential.

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Good to hear to find likeminded kdrama lover. Lol I am really little obsessed over this drama. I am saying I dislike Go Hye Jin's journey back to the Goryeo, but I am more enchanted over the life of Wang So. Lee Joon Gi's interpretation of the character is just phenomenal.

I have been reading a lot about this drama from thousands of comments on different, reading about the Goryeo history and even it's market performance.

a. I am glad to know that Moon Lovers tops the CPI rating over all other dramas currently broadcasted in Korea. This also means this drama is well-loved in the domestic market. If you count the bottomline which is the reason why rating is monitored, ML is still the most successful in Korea as CPI rating does not only counts tv viewership but all other forms of media as well. CPI covers wider audience.
b. I am glad that this has surpassed 1 billion views in China. TV rating measurement only use 2000 households as sample but wow oh wow 1 billion views, nothing can beat that.

c. It is dominating in Singapore and Malaysia with more than 70% viewership share.

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@rosepetal My apology. My reply is somewhat lost. It supposedly for you other comment.

Btw, don't worry about those called critic. Hater always going to hate. The more love an actor or a drama is receiving the more hate flows. If not many people is commenting against an actor or drama, it means not than many people are paying attention to him/her/it.

If I read some hate comments, I always ask in mind as to what credibility this writer has to have able to say those not so good things about acting performance, camera direction, editing, etc. They write as if their experts in the field. I find it funny though as I know no geniune film experts or prof writers would show such utter disrespect against their peers just because they have different creative style.

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I don't mean those who write in a constructive manner. I read some comments who give opinion about acting, direction and editing as to why the dislike someting and presents as to what could have been better for a particular scene. For me, that is ok and sensible.

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No worries! And I get what you mean because I always hear so many criticisms about kdramas that have no substance. Rather, they are trying to tear down a drama or actor than critiquing it with actual thought. I tend to skip those comments and read the ones that actually seem to be written by level headed people.

Honestly, I think it all comes down to preference. There are so many shows that have a special place in my heart but aren't well-liked by others and it goes the other way too. I don't like some shows that are really popular. As long as people stay respectful and thoughtful in their criticisms, I'm willing to take it for the shows I love. I think this is why I love beanies so much because here, the comment section are filled respectful people ?.

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I believe you have read from the chinese newspapers in Singapore. It is not fair to compare it that way. ML was broadcast on 3 channels on the cable tv (starhub). Ch 124 (Malay subtitles), Ch 820 (English subtitles) & Ch 823 (Chinese subtitles). Which means they cater to all the 3 types of viewers. MDBC was broadcast only on KBS World with english subtitles. Even if the newspapers are being told to promote for this drama, they should be fair in their reporting. Recently they even mentioned about beating DOTS (KBS drama again with english subtitles only) in rating for Singapore/Malaysia viewers. If they want to compare, they should compare with their own tv station (One TV Asia) dramas.

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Don't know why you are trying to shade the Chinese newspapers in Singapore but this news was also reported in the English newspapers. As Singapore is an English-dominant language country and the majority of the population are effectively bilingual, the viewers watching in Malay/Chinese/English subtitles are not mutually exclusive i.e. someone who watches with Chinese/Malay subtitles can also watch with English subtitles & vice versa. In Malaysia, ML is broadcast on only one channel whereas MDBC is broadcast on 2 KBS World channels. And they did compare with their own TV station dramas because there are also reports that SH has doubled their timeslot ratings.

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I'm constantly hearing about the international and online success this drama is getting, and I feel that it's in part the promotions that were done for the show. I mean, after years of watching kdramas, this is the first one that I have seen being so heavily promoted not only domestically but also internationally. I'm always happy when I see shows that I like being successful ?. Thank you for for filling me in on the ratings and such for this show! Made me very happy to hear it being well received despite its apparent flaws.

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CPI doesn't meal well loved... It means it is trending ...
Rating matters the most
Not a fan of any drama right now. Just want to point it out. It's not the 1st time lowest rating drama got highest CPI especially with the cast like this and all the controversies

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Wow.. me too.

I wait for javabeans' recap. Read the first paragraph then skip to the javabeans' commentary then watch episode...

I need javabean's to tell me if its okay to watch!

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