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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

We’ve made it to the weekend! We hope there’s some well-deserved rest and relaxation on your calendars, with plenty of time for catching up on dramas, of course. I didn’t intend to watch as many dramas as I’m currently watching, but there were new shows, and I have yet to drop anything, so I guess I’m just that crazy person watching eleventy million dramas at the moment. At least I’m in good company? –girlfriday

 

javabeans

Currently recapping: Moonlight Drawn By Clouds

The K2: Definitely stylish and cool, and the right amount of intrigue. It’s like Jason Bourne meets Yong-pal, with action that is, if excessive, then at least diverse and exciting. Yes, the director is back with his undying love for faux sacred chorales and still doesn’t understand the meaning of the word gratuitous, but on the whole it’s a well-put-together show with a suspenseful pull. Everyone’s pretty solid so far, but it’s Song Yoon-ah who’s killing it. I’m hooked.

Fantastic: Phew, there was some necessary angst that went down, but I was grateful that it didn’t linger too long. I was nervous that Ji-soo’s hiatus would mean a slowdown for the show’s lighthearted comic side, but the drama managed around his absence and focused on building up the main relationship in a satisfying way. Now that they’re (more or less) on the same page, I just want everyone to join forces to take down that she-devil agency president. Preferably painfully, and publicly.

Cinderella and the Four Knights: I’ve just got the finale left to watch, and barring any last-minute twists, I expect the show to wrap up things with a neat, happy bow, maybe even double-knotted with hearts. I don’t think it has the complexity for anything other than that, but you know, I’ve grown fond of these characters and their simple concerns, and the feel-good, if thin-as-air, stories.

Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: The show picked up this week, because it finally learned how to make one episode focus on one story, rather than a scattershot approach with a half-dozen threads. And we finally had the multiple characters involved in the same storyline, instead of random disparate ones, which did a lot to hold the episode together. Why was that so hard? Why did that take eleven episodes for the show to manage this? Can we dare to hope that the rest of the episodes will follow suit, or am I (hur hur) shooting for the moon?

Drinking Solo: Quite unexpectedly, this show has become one of the bright spots of my week. The show has done a skilled job at taking the various sets of characters and making them all feel part of the same world, even when they are separated into different pockets of the show that don’t often intermix. I loooove Ha Suk-jin’s stubborn denial of his attraction for Park Ha-sun, and how his excuses for helping her just get more and more convoluted. Oh, I’d love to see her get through his iron wall of pride someday.

Shopping King Louis: I was unsure I’d continue watching this show initially, but it has a goofy, simple charm that can be attributed pretty much entirely to Seo In-gook and Nam Ji-hyun. I often find myself exclaiming out loud over how stupid their characters are (they’re very nearly the literal example of “too stupid to live”), and yet, these actors make them seem earnest and lovable, rather than aggravating. It’s an oddly endearing show.

 

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Moonlight Drawn By Clouds and Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: So… in a nutshell, here were the confessions I heard back to back from two princes this week: If you tell me you love another man, I’ll murder him. And: I will make you a new country where a woman can live as a woman. Guess which one made me swoon. But confessions aside, Moon Lovers FINALLY stepped up its game in Episode 11 and made me feel things, so I’m hoping against hope that things stay dialed up like this for the rest of its run.

The K2: I’m excited to have some thrilling action back on my roster, though I do think The K2 could do with a little less fighting, to be honest. I’m pretty sure I’d be plenty impressed with one big action sequence per hour, but the incessant fight-fight-fight starts to make each separate fight less interesting. But hey, it’s slick, it’s fast, and it’s got blockbuster moves courtesy of badass Ji Chang-wook. I’m sold.

Cinderella and the Four Knights: Couldn’t we have let the happy couple be happy for longer than a minute before raining on their love parade? The only upside is that the conflicts on this show are so elementary that all it’ll take is for someone to clear up a few misunderstandings, and we can all be happy again. Please hurry! If you take away the frolicking puppies, there’s nothing left to like about this show!

Jealousy Incarnate: I knew it would be satisfying to watch Jo Jung-seok get his comeuppance and fall hard for Gong Hyo-jin, but it’s even better than I expected to see him stew in his own regret. He takes sad-funny to a whole new level with this character, and it’s a delight.

Shopping King Louis: What girl in her right mind would give a shopaholic access to her bank account? And what chaebol family wouldn’t have done a DNA test or autopsy if the sole heir to their fortune died in a freak accident? Why is there one mall and one company in all of Seoul? There are so, so many things that defy logic in this drama… and yet, watching Seo In-gook be ridiculously adorable is just enough to keep me hanging in there.

On the Way to the Airport: This drama’s story isn’t really in my wheelhouse, but there’s an interesting pull to its contemplative tone and the beautiful mood that it evokes. It’s surprisingly easy to watch, maybe because it’s so pretty to look at, or maybe because there’s hardly any plot to follow. In any case, whoever said this wasn’t an adultery drama was smoking crack.

Drinking Solo: I never expected this show to become one of the highlights of my drama-watching week, but it puts me in such a good mood every time I watch it. The world is realistic, and there’s humor to be found in the everyday foibles of these characters who are all just struggling to live. It hits the spot after a long day of work, just like an ice cold glass of beer.

 

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Currently recapping: Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo

W—Two Worlds: By some feat of magic, I’ve been able to avoid all spoilers for this show’s ending, since I’d been behind a couple of weeks. I took it upon myself to catch up this week, and as of this writing, have finished Episode 15. I still don’t know how it ends, but as it stands, I still find the show wonderfully inventive and deeply romantic. The rules have gotten really muddied (do they still exist?), but points for creativity. We’ll see how that changes once I finally get to that much anticipated final episode.

Woman With a Suitcase: If I were to recommend this show to anyone, I’d tell them to skip the first episode and start with the second. Everything you need to know is explained in recap form at the beginning of Episode 2, and that’s when the real story seems to start. I was kind of disappointed that the heroine’s punishment wasn’t given more weight—she’s back at it after a year away from the world, and I’m not quite feeling her struggle yet. But Lee Joon is absolutely adorable as an inexperienced, somewhat derpy lawyer.

On the Way to the Airport: I find myself more and more intrigued with each passing episode. I’d been so ready to dismiss this drama as an extended Air Asia commercial, but it’s got a really deft directing hand and some great moments. Sure, vilifying the spouses is the easy route to take, but when the main couple is simmering with tension, it’s somewhat easier to swallow. Somewhat.

Cinderella and the Four Knights: It’s endearing in its own (special) way, but it’s almost like no one even tried to make this show anything more than what it is. It’s fine for juvenile fare, but the characters collectively don’t make a whole lot of sense, and the heroine is too easily fooled by external forces. It was fun for that middle bit, but now that we’ve hit the angsty section, it’s kind of a slog. Here’s hoping the ending makes up for it.

The K2: I’ve got way more dramas on my plate than I think I can handle (I’m still leaving out Flower in Prison and Our Gap-soon), but I couldn’t help myself from seeing Ji Chang-wook’s newest action offering. Okay, that, and I was curious if we’d see a return to form from PD Kwak Jung-hwan, who’s made some baaaaad choices over the years. Right now the drama is reminiscent of both his Chuno and Runaway: Plan B days, and it’s got plenty of potential. But man, does this writer (Yong-pal) love trapped, waif-like heroines in nightgowns. I feel like it’s becoming a problem.

Moonlight Drawn By Clouds: ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

 

LollyPip

Currently recapping: Drinking Solo, Shopping King Louis

Cinderella and the Four Knights: I took a break from the show after episode 6, since it felt like it was just spinning its wheels. But then I finally pushed forward again this week, and WOW, Jung Il-woo actually smiling makes all the difference. They boys seem to be paired off well, though at the point where I’m watching feelings are still flying loose all over the place, and I’m eagerly anticipating lots of cuteness to come.

Jealousy Incarnate: I’ve gotten behind on this one too, but I love seeing Hwa-shin’s jealousy over Na-ri kick in, and I suspect a lot of his jealousy is about having his best friend’s attention divided, as well. I’m impressed with Na-ri’s poise as the two friends fight over her attention, and her determination to keep a slight distance as she “tastes” whether either of these men is the right one for her. I do so love Gong Hyo-jin’s ability to choose smart, strong female characters, and Na-ri is no exception.

Moonlight Drawn By Clouds: The prince and his eunuch have me collapsed in a pile of goo, and I’m loving every minute of it. And for once, I don’t even mind the political machinations, since they seem to enhance the love story yet never overshadow it. This show keeps a perfect balance that never falters.

Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: I’m way behind on this one too (Okay, I’m behind on everything!) but this show somehow keeps me fascinated despite its flaws. I don’t envy Su her choice between princes one tiny bit — if I had Kang Haneul and Lee Jun-ki both looking at me like that, I’d be seriously considering the possibility of polygamy.

 

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Currently recapping: Cinderella and the Four Knights

Shopping King Louis: Ah! Trop mignon! Ça me fait toujours rire!

On the Way to the Airport: Only saw the pilot so far, and was so impressed by the beautiful cinematography! Kim Haneul is doing just enough for her role, but I’ve always felt that her range was limited. Not so limited that I’m bothered by her performance, but just never blown away or moved. I worried Lee Sang-yoon would look a little too young to be playing a father, but I was pleasantly surprised by his believable and moving portrayal of a grieving parent.

Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: I’m relieved that Wook’s reason for not saving Su was legitimate (gee thanks lil sis) because it made his conflicted feelings and inability to protect his love that much more heartbreaking. Lucky Su and her win-win suitors though, Hot and Hotter. I can’t decide who’s who, both men are simply hot.

 

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Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: I know this is tanking in the ratings, but if you can get past the super-closeup shots, the plot is pretty interesting. I wish I could understand why the queen mother hates her second son So so much though. Is it only me who’s kind of freaked out by the princess’ incestuous one-sided crush on So, who is her half-brother by blood? I realize that it’s an actual marriage that happened in history, but the show normalized that relationship to the point where it seems like it’s completely okay.

Shopping King Louis: Squee! Squee! Seo In-gook does innocent chaebol man-child so well. After seeing the most recent episodes though, I miss the cute Louis-butler interactions pre-crash. The mystery is getting intense too. Were the teeth found in the crash Bok-nam’s? Are Louis’s relatives trying to kill him off? What about the rich granny’s curse — are they ever going to expound on it further?

Laurel Tree Tailors: Gah. So much talent, only half-utilized. Cha In-pyo and Ra Mi-ran are hilarious together. Who knew they’d make such a great couple. However, Choi Won-young, I want to ask, what is going on with that floppy hair? You were so good in Heirs and Kill Me, Heal Me as sleek secretary man. Why you gotta kill my fantasies like that?

 

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Moonlight Drawn By Clouds: Real life has been kind of rough the last couple of weeks, as I’ve been both super busy and very sick, so this is the only show I’ve had a chance to watch. I must say though, there were days when our Ra-on and her swoony crown prince were the only things that brought a smile to my face (other than my 11-month-old nephew). I’m amazed that this show is consistently cuter than babies even after six weeks, while still employing storytelling with so much depth and heart that I feel a full range of emotions over the hour. Things are starting to get more serious for our adorable pair, but I have faith that the feels will stay real and satisfying until the end. (Fingers crossed!)

 
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The love for Moonlight Drawn By Clouds is real! <3

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Indeed it is! And am so very glad for the show and for the entire production team behind it - actors/ actresses, PD, scriptwriters, editors, costume and make-up artists, etc.

All of them deserve a huge round of applause for giving us such a heart-warming, charming and sweet drama thus far!

Really hope all the love and support they are receiving at home in Korea will help them to keep up the energy and the good work so that it wraps up well!

Moonlight Drawn By Clouds - FIGHTING! ^^

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Moonlight Drawn By Clouds: ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

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you mean Love in The Moonlight ???
lol ^^

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Omo, I'd forgotten that was the alternate title. And I even used it for several weeks before the drama began lol

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I prefer Moonlight Drawn by Clouds, it's the direct translation of the Korean title and more meaningful. And also because of Anh's explanation:

"Raon represents the commoners, the poor people that always need help from the higher up, from those that have power. That why she is the cloud in “moonlight drawn by clouds”.

Yeong is moon, the one that has power, the one that look over everyone else and take care of them."

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Moonlight Drawn by Clouds sounds far more poetic than Love in the Moonlight, which, IMO, is a rather generic title.

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moonlight drawn by clouds does sound better, I just want to make a pun with the love for for Moonlight with their alternate title,

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i loved MDBC by its 4th episode but surprisingly (for me), my interest waned by ep 6.. idk i still like it very much but it kinda failed to grip me after the romance kicked off? maybe i just wasn't in the right mood for it but i miss the whole eunuch-ly and bromance-ly shenanigans no matter how sweet the romance is. this show's in the backburner for now, i'll probably pick this up again after it's finished, hopefully i can recapture the magic then

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All my love goes out to the staffers of Moonlight Drawn by Clouds. They're probably exhausted by the live shoot, yet still manage to make everything tip top amazing. And thank you to all the fans on Moonlight recap, you guys are as amazing as the show itself, I love ALL of the talks in the recap's comment section. Love you guys! We only have 3 weeks left, I'm already dreading the goodbyes.

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And may the love get the cast and crew through the live shoots in the next three weeks. The quality of the show despite the live-shoot is still great. Everyone's motivated by the wonderful response they're getting. I hope that after this they all get to take a long much-needed rest.

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I know right?! I love the main couple (obviously) but I also love the princess and her clumsy young master haha

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"Woman With a Suitcase: If I were to recommend this show to anyone, I’d tell them to skip the first episode and start with the second"
HeadsNo2, oh no... I loved the first episode. It had so much humor in it.
Watching (in addition to Woman with a Suitcase): Scarlet Heart Ryeo, Moonlight Drawn by Clouds, Cinderella 4K, Fantastic, K2, Blow Breeze, The Flower in Prison.

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I found out that one of my friends is a massive Ah Jae Hyun fan (through Blood, surprisingly!), so I recommended Cinderella and the Four Knights to her. We might watch it together when we see each other in person!

Also, I just found out that my roommate caught up to Moon Lovers in one night. Slow down there, I still need to watch episode 7!

Also you're not the only one creeped out at the incestual vibes, tineybeanie. Yeon-hwa's relationship with both Yo and So is just...no. Stop. I don't care if it's history. Stop.

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Oddly I also liked ahn jae hyun on blood lol, donno may be if ku hye sun was not there I would have actually watched the drama from start to end. But there was no chemistry between these two imo. AJH started with such a good note in the beginning episodes on cinderella but then his character kind of fizzles out, which is typical problem of being a kdrama second lead. I do hope his career picks up since he does seem like a rom com kinda guy.

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"But there was no chemistry between these two imo"

And yet now they're married LOL

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upon knowing they are married,
I re-watched the Blood drama episode in Happy Together 2,
I remember AJH talks about his girlfriend or dating experience there and I just want to see GHS reaction,

I giggle a lot because it's not obvious when I watched it the 1st time and how it passes in front of everyone, we just didn't know

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My jaws literally dropped when I hear they were dating. Funny that doesn't translate to chemistry on screen, or maybe the fluttering feelings made them awkward with one another. Surprisinly, I did enjoy watching blood. I didn't finish, but I still have fond memories of it.

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I remember an episode from F.R.I.E.N.D.S. where Joey advised Chandler that he should not fret when his girlfriend has chemistry with her male lead because that means that they only mean business, and that if they do have chemistry that's when he should panic.

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Watching Moonlight, Shopping King Louie, K2 and Laurel Tree Tailor.
Enjoying these different genres dramas for each has its own charms, and thank goodness they are on different days so I don't need to choose favourites!

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Moonlight Drawn By Clouds:
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(p.s: Leeyeong's "Is that you, Byeongyeonnie?" crushed me into pieces I'm goodbye)

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It crushed me as well!

Somebody needs to protect the bromance between these two at all cost.

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you know the sound they make in the variety show, more often by Yoo Jae-suk when they impress by something,
sound like "aargggh"

that's my reaction to that scene,
"I am impressed, I knew your pain"

and kwak dong yeon is really attractive, it kinda amaze me that we have like 3 (or 4 with master jung) male in moonlight, and everyone is a different kind of attractive,
lee young is indeed attractive but when the camera roll over to yoon sung and god-Byung yeon, I just nodded that they also in the same level of attractiveness, just depend on your own taste,

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Let's not forget the swoony eyes crown prince was shooting at Yoon-sung for saving his life. Or is it just me?

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The pain that cost me was more real than Yeong's stab wounds. Imagine if Kim Hyung was not there. Yeong would be nursing both physical and emotional pain and he already looked dead when he was recuperating. Poor guy!

Kim Hyung, do not be late ever again!

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I'm just watching one drama this week and it's a c-drama entitled Ode to Joy . I'm surprised that it has a similarity with Age of Youth but I'm loving the c-drama more than the other one. I heard that it will have a second season next year so I'm definitely looking forward to it!!!

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Ode to Joy was also from the director of Nirvana in Fire.

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My email is automatically show on my iPhone 6 Plus. ? I am not used to new iOS. I have been wondering what to watch after Love 020. Thank you An for recommend of Ode to Joy. However, I am watching A Better Man right now. Dang, lots of OCD peeps. ?? Therefore, I will watch it afterward ormaybe after watching Love 020 for third time.?❤️? After Better Man.

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You called me?

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How is A Better Man i'm missing Cdramas i'm now rewatching Bu Bu Jing Xin since Moon lover isn't as amazing as I wanted it to be. Aay other good Cdramas you know, I have watched a lot but i need more.

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Ode to Joy is such a gem, I can't wait for Ode to Joy 2 because it. would. be. airing. SOON. Rejoice!

Nirvana in Fire is also a precious gem (really) and Nirvana in Fire 2 will also be airing soon (my gosh). Unfortunately, based on what I've read, this "sequel" would focus on Prince Yu's son so there's no guarantee that we'll be seeing Hu Ge (boo)

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I like that NiF 2 will be about different character and even if it's sad that there's no hu ge or wang kai, I welcome the new face,

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Kyaaaah! Ode to Joy because is a story of five women with different personalities, social backgrounds and their journey as they all live in the same floor of the apartment building. It's a drama for the ladies and it shows many sisterhood moments between the working girls. It doesn't only focus on the character's romances and you'll surely have your favorite character(s) among the five of them.

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Now, I really have to check this one out!

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I LOVED Nirvana in Fire, so should I check out Ode to Joy?? Where do you watch it and is it subbed in English? I can't wait for NIF 2!

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Toto Nee-chan, Laurel Tree Tailors and Drinking Solo complete my week. Slice of life and funny, heart warming moments.

SK Louie is just too stupid right now, I mean, everyone is loving Louie but he's a slacker w/o consideration from others (and the only reason he does something nice is because his fear of losing her or because he knew he did wrong). He may be cute, but he's selfish and a leech.

Cinderella, well, back in ep 6 I kinda undestand why it had so much trouble finding a time slot, I feel like this one was a miss more than a hit for TvN.

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How is Toto nee-chan? I keep meaning to start it but I haven't had the time.

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I agree, I'm really starting to get annoyed by Louie. He better get his memory back VERY soon because his current self drives me nuts. I love Seo In Guk's portrayal…I just hate the character development going on.

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Same, Cafe and Kay!! I thought I was the only one getting annoyed by how selfish and Louie was becoming. It was cute the first few times but he's not learning anything and it's frustrating ?

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people, Louie is a character! You dont have to take it this seriously! no one is actually suffering any money casualties because of him. but go ahead, be annoyed. but you sound like old ladies complaining on a park bench.

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I don't comment nearly enough for how much I am on this site, but I wanted to let ya'll know this is one of my favorite segments! I always look forward to the weekly check-ins. I hope you continue with it (:

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I was watching drinking solo attentively,but then they started this weird pairing to form up, gong myong and chae yeon, which just screams wrong to me. I really liked the chemistry and bickering going on between ki bum and chae yeon, but seems like show is ultimately taking the usual cliche route, I do hope I'm wrong and that ki bum at least gets someone by his side, if not his grandma. The guy needs to have some reason to pass the civil service exams after all.

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Lol

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On the Way to The Airport is the perfect drama for Autumn (well, a personal opinion).
Who's responsible for the background music? It's so breathtakingly beautiful ❤❤❤

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It is!

OTWTTA is the only drama I am watching now. So different and beautifully done so far. Still has the movie feel in the way it is made.

Never seen the lead actor before, he is so good.

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Wow, so many of DB team watch Cinderella. But why hang on to that show? Drop it.

-- I was not planning to watch Episode 3 this morning, but I saw a topless picture of JCW online. And that would not stop me from watching it. But that was a massive fail. There were no such scenes in that episode. I guess I have to wait for the next episode despite the ludicrousness of this drama. All the security guards are so inept with their job.

-- I will echo HeadsNo2. Just full of hearts this show is.

-- That was muddy brilliant. Heartbreaking yet very, very funny, that scene. How come I've never heard of this director before? How come I've never seen the writer's previous dramas?

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Damn it! I was trying to bold the title of the dramas. But I guess that did not work.

The K2

Moonlight Drawn by Clouds

Jealousy Incarnate

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The writer has worked on Pasta and Miss korea and the director I guess is of Hyde, Jekyll and me- that is why HJM had a cameo appearance.

They are amazing though. If they team up for another drama I would definitely watch. I'm already watching this show (because of them and the actors ofcourse)which is 24 episodes long when my limit is 20 and don't want it to end anytime soon.

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I've heard a few good things about Miss Korea, so I might try that one day.

If the PD directed Hyde,Jekyll, and Me, then JI is definitely an improvement. I have only heard bad things about HJM. I did not see it.

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you can try in http : / / www . w3schools . com /
(remove the space) to try the HTML code before posting,

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Oh, Thank You, Sancheezy. . Found the link.

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"Wow, so many of DB team watch Cinderella. But why hang on to that show? Drop it."

What LollyPip said, Jung Ilwoo being all smiley keeps us hanging on. What kept us there the first 6 eps was Ahn Jaehyun being funny. Perhaps we'll get both in this last episode. Going to watch it now, fingers crossed ~~~

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Because Cinderella is an easy watch Predictable show whose outcome was clear from the 1st week Broadcast.

I just watched episode 16 and as expected everything went the way it should have been for a Cliche show.

Too much cheese and yet it was satisfying for a good Outcome. Enjoyable episode except the unnecessary tears and crying and angst.

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"Moonlight Drawn by Clouds- — I will echo HeadsNo2. Just full of hearts this show is."

My browser decided to be slow today so while I was reading and finally got to Heads' comments I saw the MDBC title but nothing else. LOL I thought it was a mistake and then boom hearts appeared! Nothing but hearts for Moonlight indeed.

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@Gelai:

The K2: Think this is already covered in the comments below, but if you watch Ep 4, I think you'll find what you're looking for!! It's an eyeful, no doubt about it, and more than anyone was prepared for! :D

Jealousy Incarnate: we’re getting some epic bromance fight scenes this year (think PU38 playground fight), and the Muddy Squid Fight is no exception!

Other honourable mentions/misc category: Yeong and Yoong Sung fighting the palace attackers in MDBC; Gong-myung and Ki-bum (and Dong-young and Ki-bum) fighting in Drinking Solo; Hae-sung and Joon-ki wrestling in Fantastic ... I'll even chuck in the JCW Shower Fight in The K2!

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One thing I like about live watching and DB is the chance to interact with the community as the show airs where they can influence, enhance or correct your opinion on a certain thing in a drama. All in a good sense though.

For e.g. considering JI's recent recap, I've always thought that JW was not angelic as he was shown to be and maybe whatever he did to HS by the end of ep 11 wasn't right. But then you get to read the comments and get an insight of all the possible situations a character might be facing that you happen to think the other way around. Though I've always liked marathoning dramas because I enjoy them more that way but live watching opens my mind by looking in different possible aspects of a story and its characters- that too always through the recaps and comments.

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Me too! I probably wouldn't live watch at all if not for dramabeans. The interaction in comments section is even more interesting for shows like w because people come up with all sorts of theories and things you couldn't understand are always explained If you ask for it and others would have observed things which you would have failed to notice.

Even for shows like Cinderella which I don't watch, the comments section seems so much fun because they always make me laugh when they appear in beans of wisdom.

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I didn't watch Moon Lovers this week. Instead, I've been picking up on The Good Wife, which is awesome. K2 has been good too, so I'm satisfied overall.

Need something light on days when I'm too tired to watch intense and exciting dramas though. Hm...

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Need something light to heal the stressed? Have you watched Moonlight? It's my happy pills ♡

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I haven't, and I'm seriously considering that :D Thank you for recommending! ^_^

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Moonlight and Drinking Solo ?

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Shopping King Louis is light and fluffy. lol

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Watching - K2 , Cinderella , FantastiC , Women with a Suitcase

Weekly - The unusual Family and That Sun in the Sky.

Movies - Penny Pinchers ---> Wild kiss and even Breast Grab. wow. Baby & Me.

Pending List - That's How it is , Dear My Friends

Added to list - Drinking Solo , Blow Breeze and Laurel Tailors

Put on Hold - Pinocchio , Healer , City Hunter , My Daughter Seo Young

Watchlist October - Yoona's Street , Potato Star ---> Both at episode 25.

Dropped - Shopaholic Louie. I don't want to waste time on another Cinderella Crap.

This all Autumn Talk reminds me of Autumn Blues. There is funny episode about Autumn Blues in Potato Star 2013 QR 3.

K2 - I found K2 more exciting and entertaining than W - Two Worlds. Show is Intense and I want all 16 episodes to have Action scenes.

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O.O Can I borrow some time from you? I haven't been able to watch more than one show for weeks now. Real Life is too time-consuming.

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It's easy 1-2 hours for kdrama every day. weekends 3 hours for kdrama. So following 5 shows a week is quite busy.
I waste 2-2 hours cooking food and watch kdramas from 1am to 4 am.Because of these shows my whole life time table has become a big mess but overall my work hasn't suffered much.
I can clearly understand you because there are days when i wish for a Day of 35+hours instead of 24hours. Why human life is so short.

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aww. dont say "crap" at least say "poop". that´s more in the vibe of Louie. Poop is good. No poop, no loop. I dont kn ow what that means I just made it up.

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seems like Louie is much more into poop jokes.

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Javabeans's and girlfriday's positive comments about drinking solo makes me feel that I should watch it. But, I just can't afford to watch another drama right now. So, maybe after it gets over.

The k2's previous week's episodes were intriguing and i originally checked them out for ji chang wook, of course ( and i think the casting director's a genius because action dramas tend to pull male audiences more easily but ji chang wook will make girls who are not generally into action to tune into it) the third episode is just awesome. For someone who normally doesn't watch action dramas, I want to watch this one and I am in it for the full ride. Hope it stays like this throughout its run.

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Yes finally! Someone else noticed how weird it is that Yeon-Hwa's flirting with her brothers Wang Yo and Wang So. I was so surprised by it that I had to go and search up wikipedia where I realized it actually happened in history and I was like, "Noooo! That's impossible!" Lol. Sometimes I just try to pretend in my mind that she's not their sister but some noble daughter whose parents died and the king adopted, lol. It's not working that well but I'm trying.

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Who knows how many royals were keeping it in the family, we wouldn't have otherwise known if it wasn't stated in the history. I don't like it, but I understand why they go that route, it's keeping consistent with the history, and with its time and setting, I can't say it surprises me.

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Very true. I was just used to the Joseon historical Kdrama, so I got thrown off by the Goryeo world where incest is totally okay. But yeah, history wise I'm not surprised. I remember learning about Cleopatra and the half brothers she married. Or Tutankhamen, the son of married siblings and then married his half sister. ;)

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Love Head's comment about MDBC!

Currently:

Punch: Kim Rae won, why so charismatic? Wae, wae, wae WAE?
I'm supposed to concentrate and not think dirty thoughts every time you show up on screen... even with a hospital head band that got discarded too quickly so that I can keep fantasizing about running my hands through you stubborn hair!

Coffee House: still enjoying and rooting for the assistant. He is soooo gonna miss her if she ever or when she eventually leaves. Park Shi UlYeon is gorgeous... and Kang Ji Hwan is kooky!

Last: noooo chairman ahjussi, don't black out now! No 2 and Mi Joo *swoon* May the caper commence gloriously!!

FINISHED:

God's Gift:
My CD started cracking and I didn't get the ending, yet to read the recap. Lee No Young was everything!! Reckless, desperate, brave, loving, caring, badass, thoughtful, intelligent, calm, hysterical and even/just a little bit crazy! My first time watching her, loved her and her sharp jawline!! And don't even get me started on Captain Awesome. *love*

Master's Sun:
I loved loved loved the ending,so perfect! I loved that the obligatory separation was not the 'for your own good' nonsense but was a journey for self-discovery. Loved his pinning, poor CEO. And the amnesia was at least believable.
That flamming hot frying pan commercial was EPIC, God I laughed solo hard!
Seo In Gook, loyal and steadfast, plus I saw him in jeans for the first time *snug*. Loved his slow burn romance with the second lead and how it was also a journey for him to.
And lastly, The last shot and how the camera panned from above. It portrayed perfectly how natural their skinship was. I just love how comfortable they are around each other. I also love how honest they are with each other. That love confession was hilarious " I love you so deal with it, as for me, I've told you my own". lol. And he said it in that matter-of-fact way of his. I love that his character didn't just dramatically change. Even till the end, he still cared about money lol.
I loved Gong Hyo Jin's character. She was so kind, and lovely. it continuously touched me to how much she wished to be normal but could not ignore the ghost seeing side of her, it was just part of who she was. The drama really left me with warm feelings and is definitely a certified candidate for a rewatch. Cheers!

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I'm jealous of you since this is your first time watching master's sun. I love love that drama and till now it remains my favorite show. So Ji Sub and GHJ should totally act in some other projects together again, they had some cracking chemistry on screen.

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hi flightey gazelles, hi sky!

also just finished watching TMS recently and absolutely loved it - SJS even more after this and started appreciating GHJ then. yes, their chemistry was sizzling! almost missed out this drama due to the ghosts, and glad that persisted on to watch their "tensions" :)

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I'm watching 7 dramas right now.

Moonlight drawn by clouds: I'm in love with this show, my favorite at the moment.

Jealousy incarnate: it's hilarious + serious case of SLS!

Moon lovers: scarlet heart ryeo: first Lee Jun Ki drama after My girl, he still is very beautiful.

Fantastic: love it and hoping that they'll take "marriage contract" approach for the ending.

Shopping king Louis: Seo In Guk, enough said!

Second to last love: I enjoy it, gives me food for thought!

Cinderella and four knights: I don't know why I'm still watching this!

Still contemplating whether to start the K2 now or marathon it when it's done.

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Girlfriday:
"Moonlight Drawn By Clouds and Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: So… in a nutshell, here were the confessions I heard back to back from two princes this week: If you tell me you love another man, I’ll murder him. And: I will make you a new country where a woman can live as a woman. Guess which one made me swoon."

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So should travel to the future and get some better pick up lines from Yeong

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LOL, Wang So could certainly learn a thing or two on how to romance a girl from Yeong.

I read the "If you tell me you love another man, I'll murder him" as a threat, and frankly would be freaked out if someone said that to me. Swooning for the wrong reasons!

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I just like to pretend that So is trying to be funny and completely missing the mark

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So doesn't need to travel to the future to get some better pick up lines from Yeong. He just needs to consult his brother Wook on how to make swoon-worthy false promises, lol.

"I will make you a new country where a woman can live as a woman." How unrealistic can it get, considering that they are in the Joseon era, and this particular CP is so powerless...

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Well, Yeong has been established to be a man of conviction while Wook (based on his latest actions) isn't. Yeong's words may be a pipe dream and he may not succeed given his limited power, but you can be sure that he's going to try his very best to make it happen.

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Yes, thank you!

I think it is a noble and honourable thing that a Crown Prince has at least the desire and the conviction to want to shape and transform his nation into a better one for the future of his subjects. Whether he is able to do it is another thing, but it is better to have tried and failed, than to never have tried at all!

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How did you know Wook wasn't going to try his very best to make his promises to Soo happen? That he meant his promises at the time at making them? At least, his promise to get her out of the palace is a more attainable goal unlike the Crown Prince who thinks that he can achieve unrealistic goals like change & overthrow the whole Joseon system. Sad to say, he will not succeed, because "Women never had that kind of freedom in Joseon at any time."

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But that's the thing. Yeong is a dreamer. He continually pushes against what society expects of him. He has little influence. He will probably fail - as you keep on insisting - but he will not stop trying. Yeong keeps his word. He wished for Ra-on to meet her mother, and he reunites them in the latest episodes.

Besides, as people below have pointed out, he was relaying his dream to Ra-on. It's not a confession. It's his vision that his people are free to live as who they are. The whole line is (quoting Celine from below) “I will make you a new country where a child can live as a child and a woman can live as a woman." It's broad and rather unrealistic -as you point out - but it's supposed to be. You have to respect someone with the will to keep working towards a rather unrealistic goal despite all odds.

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Well said!

I think it is also worth noting that just because something is unreachable doesn't mean it isn't worth the effort trying.

And I like how this is a call-back on an earlier episode with the Eunuch Ma + Wol Hee arc. Yeong was in the library and was unhappy that Ra On was making so much effort to help Eunuch Ma convey his sincere feelings to Wol Hee, despite knowing that it wouldn't change anything.

Ra On's beautiful response was “One doesn’t not reach out a hand to the sky thinking it will touch it.”

That changed Yeong's perspective on things and gave him the courage to face his feelings and confess them. And how nice is it that it has now spurred Yeong to dare to dream big even with it comes to other things.

I guess that is one of the things I love about Moonlight. Not only is the romance a sweet, warm and charming one, but there are other underlying themes in the narrative that are inspiring to the soul and encouraging to the heart.

Daring to dream, despite the odds, is one of them! <3

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I couldn't agree with you more.

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That country was Goryeo.
Women never had that kind of freedom in Joseon at any time.

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@Livi
I am with you 1000%.
So much with words and not enough action. I take the realistic guy anytime.

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That's the thing with comparing 2 different princes who lived in two different era. Why can't we just let them be lol.

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@Livi
Totally agree with you.
And Gwangjong in history is very much known to install fear within his realm and he is a realistic man, a formidable and ruthless ruler.
Wang So is a man who walk his talk. I would rather hear harsh words being said that a man giving me empty promises. I don't appreciate the attempt when he knows that he could not achieve such things he said. To me, that still equalized to empty promises. I don't live in a dream to be fooled by pretty flowery words.

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ooh you take this too far....
>>To me, that still equalized to empty promises.. I don’t live in a dream to be fooled by pretty flowery words.<>Later that day, Yeong sits with Ra-on and tells her about the lantern girl and how she’d said the king would know what a good nation would entail. Ra-on asks what kind of nation Yeong wants Joseon to be

He thinks, and says, “I would like for children to live as children, and for women to be able to live happily as women.”<<

so he just said that the ideal world he wanst to achieve is like that and he'll try for that, is it empty promises??
he already did his step to achieving it, released the girl, trying to find his political path and planned to make a better country

Idk how this can get a negative response?
she asked him , he answer her,
he didn't said it to have her or promised it to make her his woman,
he stated his dream,
I suggest watching the episode probably give you a better insigt,

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LOL, you responded! I was actually debating on whether to respond or not myself but then I thought, to some people:

A person's hopes & dreams => unrealistic, empty promises

Which, if you think about it, is kinda sad...

Sad that they fail to see that the reason why there has been so many advancements and improvements to society has been largely a result of people dreaming large, seemingly impossible dreams, but still striving for them with all their might. Some of them are fortunate enough to live to see their dream come true (and so become inspirational tales or icons for us), while some pass on their ideology onto others who carry the torch for them and eventually make those dreams a reality after years and years of hard work.

Noble, honourable dreams of a happier, better society have even produced some of the most inspirational quotes/ speeches.

Look at Martin Luther King Jr's famous "I have a dream" speech!
"And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!"

Where would we be without these people today?

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@suegarbaby: I was in the same two minds whether or not to voice my take on dreamers, and I share your opinions on this.

Men of action have their charms, so do men of dreams/ ambition. It's not like dreamers always dream and not act, and activists only act and never dreams or articulate their dreams to anyone else. Both dreamers' and activists' actions may not result in immediate changes, but one cannot refute the fact that throughout history more often than not it takes both actions and visions to make changes happen, and of course, changes are the result of a concerted effort.

I also think many people have taken CP's articulated vision too literally and have applied the modern sensibilities regarding women's position, rights and equity to that specific era's. Even if the CP dreams of a better place for women and children, it's still the notion of women and children ruled by Confucianism (e.g. living a safe and peaceful life within the confinement of the home, not having to work male or derogatory labour, not having to submit themselves to ridicule or judgement by shredding their true gender identity). If seen in this light, the CP dreams, though outdated by modern standards, are not in anyway too 'unrealistic'. They're only unrealistic because viewers like us bring our 21st century experiences, morals and expectations into our interpretation of his words and label him as 'all-talks'. If fans of ML have fervently argued for Wang So's massacre of the monks and his impending incestuous marriage and his future purge of his political opponents during his reign as era-specific, please also do the courtesy of viewing Yeong's visions the same way.

Anyway, not going to diss either of the two historical figures or their romanticised characters in the two shows. Just wanna suggest that while we're free to like or dislike a certain character of a certain show, it doesn't hurt to be a little more fair with our judgement. Excluding one from while subjecting the other to our modern sensibilities and standards is just masking our biased assessment really.

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I wish Girlfriday would rearrange her wording, because it sounds like Yeong was saying "If you tell me you love another man, I’ll murder him." and Wang so, "I will make you a new country where a woman can live as a woman." It sounds so wrong to me.

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maybe it's a hidden test to know which one we watch. .lol

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"I will make you a new country where a child can live as a child and a woman can live as a woman"

Yep. It will go down as one of the most wonderful things Yeong ever said (and he said TONS). History taught us that Hyomyeong was smart and would have been a great King like his grandfather, but he never did. I really wonder how much liberty the story of MDBC will take in terms of historical events vs fiction. Will Yeong drama version be able to live long enough to do it? He is starting to amass his supporters and will surely gain more power because of the upcoming event that fans are dreading.

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"I'm going to get even more greedy. When you like someone, is it not natural to be greedy for more?" (Why does that sounds like music to my ears? Doesn't sound selfish at all.) - Ep.11

"Until I make that kind of nation for you—can you wait? In the new Joseon that I make, you will be my first person." (I love how he's always asking permission.) - Ep.11

"I don't know what that danger may be, but I don't want to prevent them (from meeting) for my own sake."- Ep.12

"If you're happy, then I'm happy too."- Ep.12

"If it is true that a ten-year-old child has learned to be a spy before learning to read, then the people who deserve stern rebukes are myself and you all."- Ep.11

"You have not forgotten what you wanted to ask the king, have you? Be sure to watch and see if I am making a good nation." - Ep.11

"How impertinent. Without my approval, there will be no one who can steal away your happiness. So, do not cry. Because I will not ever let go of this hand." - Ep.12

"All that time that I could not call your name, I will make up for abundantly now." - Ep.10

"But I have never thought of you lightly. At first I was shocked, and then I was joyful. When I sat comfortably in a palanquin, you walked, and when I walked, you had to carry an umbrella. While I sat on silk and you sat on a dirt-stained seat, how could I say that I treasured you as a woman? That is not is something a man should do to his beloved. I'll block the wind, and cover you from the sun, and cherish you. May I do that?" (Did I say I love how he's always asking permission? And he did block the rain and the sun for her in Ep.12) - Ep.9

"Don't get hurt. That's an order. And in front of other people, hold back your laughs. That's an order too. *kiss* That's your punishment." (Sweetest command I ever heard) - Ep.10

"Why are you pretending that you’re fine? I don’t like the story you've told me. I will change that story. Those two lived happily together for a long, long time. Like us." - Ep.10

"These are my feelings that I tried to cover up, so that no one would ever know them. In order to keep you by my side, I thought I could not let them be revealed. At your words, I will find the courage. Though I could be put in danger, or lose you with this confession." (Swoon) - Ep.8

"Words that are declared should not be taken back. One should take responsibility." - Ep.8

"That’s when I realized that to protect loved ones, I had to become strong." - Ep.8

"From now on, I will treat you as the most beautiful woman in the world. May I do that?" - Ep.8

"Do not tell me that my heart is wrong. How can you declare a heart right or wrong for feeling the way it does. I mean to give it a try, that bad love." - Ep.7

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<3 <3 <3!!

Thank you for compiling them and sharing them with us! Seriously swooning all over again when recalling the scenes where those lines were said.

Re: Yeong always asking for permission
Yes! I also thought it was really gentlemanly and honourable of him to do that. It shows that he respects Ra On as a person and sees her as someone who is of equal value.

His love is not one who insists on getting their way regardless of what the other party thinks, and is a love built on mutual warmth, respect and consent.

Wish more k-dramas had these sort of heros.

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Yup, he sees her as his equal, his partner and his person, with extreme respect and gentleness at the same time. I wish such guy exists in real life.

I compiled these while checking back on previous recap. Didn't realize someone already did the same on comment below, I didn't scroll down, lol. But I only compiled on Yeong's. Ra-on said some memorable lines too.

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CONSENT. It's all about consent, especially since they lived in a time when nobles, not to mention royals, had very little respect or use for the concept. Honestly, if Yeong hadn't waited for Ra On to give her silent permission for his kiss, I would have lost a great, great deal of my love for this show, but he did, and he kept on asking after. It's one of the reasons why I rarely watch K-dramas, or Asian dramas, in general, because somehow they've mixed up what good romance really means (not that a lot of western shows know the difference too). I like a bit of dub-con isn't now and then if, and only IF, the relationship is meant to be unhealthy and obsessive in the first place, but when they're paraded as the ideal for women and men to follow in real life? Nah, count me out!

ANYWAY. Yes, Moonlight and Yeong = loooooooooove.

I actually find his promise to make children be children more beautiful and meaningful than the woman bit, because the show has a very deep connection to children already, and its poignant to think that Yeong was imagining himself, his two musketeers, and Ra On as children hurt and abandoned by the people and the world that should treasure them, along with the more obvious example of poor children caught up in corrupt governments and harsh rebellions. Happy, loved children are happy, loved adults - or at least, they should be.

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Yeah, I absolutely love the part where he lingered and waited for her consent before kissing her. If he dived in for the kiss, I wouldn't have liked it one bit, it would have been a forced kiss no matter how you look at it. And to quote Kiara above, "Women never had that kind of freedom in Joseon at any time," Yeong has been consistently respectful and gentlemanly to every woman (well, minus his evil stepmother) right from the start, even to Ha-yeon whom he had gently rejected a couple of times, it goes to show why he's so worth rooting for.

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This Prince Hyomyeong (Yeong) is being romanticised to the max because this is a fantasy rom.com story. It's not going to tell us who/what the actual Prince Hyomyeong was really like.
The only character that I see that's a bit consistence with the history is King Sunjo.

It's meant to be a light hearted dress-up sageuk and that's why there is "a Lot" of changes in the history.

If Yeong lives longer in this drama, it would be for Ra-on. This isn't about politics, this is about a forbidden love story.

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In all fairness, the real Hyomyeong had a reputation as a reformist and a genius, and he asserted the King's control over the court during his regency. Drama!Yeong is a very romantic person, but the way the show portrays his political aspirations may not be that far off the mark.

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The real Hyomyeong was from the Andong Kim clan. He was able to do something because he had his mother's clan behind him and their support. They had him rule as regent and forced his father off the throne.

If Yi-san or Sunjo had that kind of support, Joseon would have been a much better place for the less fortunate and lower class. Maybe even close to King Sejong's time.

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Fair point. Although I'm not sure the Andong Kims supported his marriage to a Poongyang Jo. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the two clans detested each other.

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The real Hyomyeong seems to have it all, especially with the Andong Kim clan having his back, except he was probably as Elle said, a reformist and a genius, and his aspirations may be true because he did try to control his maternal clan by having the influence of his wife's family clan in the court, but that backfired on him because rumor has it that the Andong Kim clan poisoned him and had his son replace him.

Yeong is still very much the romanticized version of Hyomyeong because that's the whole point of the drama, but I believe his political aspiration is still true. As much as I hate to see them derail from history, I'd love to see Yeong becoming a wise king that truly knows what his people need and how to achieve that.

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Yeong being poison is someone's speculation based on the show. It is possible but it doesn't make much sense from what's written in the history. Those Kims were calculated but not stupid.

Fact is Yeong died young and all his siblings did too. The one who lived the longest was his sister Princess Myeongon who died 2yrs later at age 22. His cute little half sister Princess Yeongon who is part of the show didn't make it pass age 12.

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With this drama, I wish they'd pulled a TMEtS and made the Crown Prince completely fictional. At least then we'd have a happily ever after without the caveat of completely departing from history (not that the drama has not already done that, but still).

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@Kiara I was basing that from what I read in Korean wikipedia. That when he was made regent, he tried to contain Andong Kim clan political power to strengthen his kingship by bring in more Pungyang Jo clan into the court. I don't know how much of Yeong's character resembles the one in the web novel, but the web novel writer did mention that she does her research before writing, so some of the things about Crown Prince Hyomyeong could still be true. If the crown prince is stated to be such a reformist (according to history), I believe even with the Andong Kim clan backing him up, he'd have wanted to rule with his own ideals and he wouldn't want to be their puppet, and thus his wife's clan is the best way to control Andong Kim clan.

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I thought The Moon Embracing the Sun was completely fictional? They didn't based them on real people from the history. When I first read Crown Prince Hyomyeong's profile, I thought he only lived till 20, turns out he lived till 22, so as of right now, we still have 4 years before his death in the drama.

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It's what I said. I wish MDBC had followed TMEtS's footsteps and made completely fictional royals instead of pulling from history, just so we can have a perfect happy ending.

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Ah, I misunderstood you. But I like the fact that they based it on Crown Prince Hyomyeong, who is a real figure, but not much is known about him so the writers have the liberty to be creative with his character. And the history part is just an extra bonus of conflict for us viewers.

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My mistake then. I thought you said it was someone's speculation from another website.
It doesn't make much sense since he was only ruling as prince regent for only a few years and he was still a teen imo.

I think his marriage to the Pungyang Jo clan was expected. The Andong Kims were not the only powerful nobles in Joseon who provided queens for the kings. There were around 10 clans and most if not all were originated from Goryeo and some existed since the 3 kingdom era. (Hwangryeo Min clan, Papyeung Yoon clan, Cheongpung Kim clan, etc).
Monopolizing power for an extended period of time would not sit well with the other clans.
Some historians are blaming the Min clan for the downfall of Joseon.

I read about her research but haven't read her novel. I'm only commenting on the drama since it the one we are watching and what I learnt from the history.

TMEtS was popular on it's own without being linked to the real history.
Even though Moonlight is far from being authentic. People are curious enough to look up the actual history.

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I don't doubt there were other clans vying for the same political power as the Andong Kim clan, but Pungyang Jo clan was stated to be the only true rival of the Andong Kim clan in Korean politics, and they did manage to take over the political power from Andong Kim clan when King Cheoljong died without a male heir, and Queen Sinjeong (Crown Prince Hyomyeong's wife) took regency.

I think it makes perfect sense why Andong Kim clan would be the one killing off Crown Prince Hyomyeong. They probably thought it'd be easy to manipulate the young prince as they did with his father, even if his in-laws family was their greatest threat. But when the prince started shift things around and try to contain them, they made the first move and killed him off, plus the prince had a son whom they could control, and with Queen Sunwon (Andong Kim clan) on their side, they were basically unstoppable. I also think that it was the work of Andong Kim clan that most of the House of Yi heirs died young, they wanted the power to stay within their clan by all means, and they only want people they can control, so Crown Prince Hyomeyong was out of the question.

Actually, I haven't read the novel myself. And I'm not going to compare both version of Yeong. But I believe since this is an adaptation, his character couldn't be far off from what was written in the novel.

I don't have much interest in all those political wars and whatnot, though it's interesting to learn about their history while watching the drama, and I love that aspect about Moonlight, it draws you to understand the history behind it more. And because of this drama, I've been doing a lot of reading on their history as well, and it's been fun. ^^

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Oh God, I didn't realised how much shows I am watching until I started to list them out in my head.

2D1N - it's unfortunate that JJY had to leave the show (they're not sure if he's gonna come back, I think they're still waiting for the verdict) cos I really love the dynamic energy he brings and who's gonna be the lucky guy in the show now? ☹️️

Running Man - I don't know why that I always pity Kwang Soo and always wants him to win every single time, but he never would.

Moonlight - bring on the bromance! But I bet next week will have more heartbreaks than bromance.

Drinking Solo - oh pooor puppy Gong-myung! But I love his brother equally too.

Woman with a suitcase - love the 2nd episode more than the 1st. Love it when Joon plays a bright character!

Jealousy Incarnate - Oh Hwashin, what do we do with you? It hurts to watch him, but you can't help but laugh at how pitiful he looks.

Shopping King Louie - Seo Inguk is such a gem. I will never want him to leave dramaland ever. Will be dreading the year he has to leave for the army. I will probably break down and cry at the thought of it.

On the way to the Airport - me: "please don't" everytime Seo Duhwoo asks Soo Ah to meet him. but this drama is so beautiful and I have never been this conflicted over a drama before. I want them together but you know, not like that. Why does it have to be so hard?

Cinderella - things are finally getting more interesting! And less Hyeji "moping around" scenes! Yay?

Fantastic - I cannot wait for Seol to leave that awful family! I want her to join her friends and be happy and free again! I honestly don't know how she could stand all those treatments from them.

K2 - have yet to start thisssss but dunno if I should. Contemplating about it cos I have exams in less than 2 months! Eeeppp!!

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<I want them together but you know, not like that.

Yeah.... I was thinking I just want a time jump – them recognising they are feeling something, then distancing themselves from each other and a leap forward in time (1-2 years?). To when they have already divorced from their current spouses and are in a situation where they are vulnerable from they have recently gone through but at least available. I think there is enough in the aftermath of their situations for a story about their challenge of getting together without having the adultery element – lots of baggage to work through after separating from a controlling husband that makes all the choices and lets you pick up all the pieces while he plays the Sydney gentleman (I'd be livid if someone "moved" me to another house) and separating from a woman who obviously has serious mental issues and that the guy seems to have married not for love out of pity? the child? (I just don't see any love in that marriage, not even love that there once was).

Because, at the moment, I can only look at them and think, Why? Why do you want walk into a mess of a situation like that?

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I blame u for starting watching yet another drama. I really wanted to see Jun Ki and decided to watch Moon Lovers because it was around 11pm and I had only time for one episode and you were not swooning over it so I thought it will be ok..... I'm on 11ep.... ( still don't know whats with these closeups. are they trying to hide something in the background?)

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LOL this should be the bean-spilling of the week. You marathoned 11 episodes from 11pm until the next day's afternoon?

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Watching 10 currently airing shows (basically every weekday prime time show on the big 3 plus all cable dramas)...this. is. insane. ?

Woman w/ Suitcase: Only watched Ep.1 which felt disjointed and confusing but good to hear Ep.2 is a lot better. I'm probably one of the last people here who's never watched CJW in anything before.

MDBC: Who started this stupid trend to have songs with some English lines in sageuks? And as if it's not enough "Love is over"? Gimme grand ballads a la Lyn's "Back in Time", dammit.
Btw KYJ deserves an award for self-control. The way she manages to not have a face as red as a beet during her scenes with PBG is a bigger mystery to me than how the W world works. I'm way older than them but damn the way Crown Prince gazes at Ra-on makes ME blush like mad and squeal like a teenager. ☺️

Moon Lovers: Finally! Show, where have you been the first 10 episodes? Now this is the drama I was expecting from the beginning.
And can't we just screw history and have Yeon-hwa become the next Queen Regnant? I see a Wu Zetian in the making lol. Girl has more ambition and drive than all her brothers together.

Drinking Solo: Jung-suk ah, why so cute? I could watch him all day coming up with excuses that whatever nice thing he's doing is for the joint class. But show, don't hurt Ki-bum, you hear me.

On The Way To The Airport: This show is shot so beautifully it's insane. It's great to have a quiet but by no means boring, mature and so thought-provoking show amongst all the cute, fun or tense dramas.

Shopping King Louis: Louis really is a human puppy, he'll make you want to pull your hair in frustration but then he's so damn cute again that you just can't stay mad at him. And they're always making me hungry with all the eating but I can't eat while watching this because I burst out laughing all the time, man, this is just mean. ?

Jealousy Incarnate: On paper Hwa-shin is a jerk, a man-child and a backstabber, yet I've been rooting for him ever since Ep.1... all the credit goes to JJS. ❤️

C4K: Step, step, where do we go now? to Paris, Ms. Wooden...to Paris, chebal. One episode left, himnae chingus, we can get through it.

The K2: I don't know, after Ep.3 I'm becoming more and more wary of the plot and directing. Maybe I just had the wrong expectations? Right now I'm struggling to take this drama serious but I love the cast of veteran actors. Eottoke. Ep.4 better be good. And I've come to the conclusion that I just don't like the camera work.

Fantastic: Oh, another man-child, that makes it three in a week for me. And all of them are great in their own way.
I'm glad dongsaeng-ssi is well but hope they make his character bedridden or something.

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Wow! That is awesome, angeiya. I am currently watching four shows (JI, MDBC, k2, fantastic) and I feel like I can't watch more shows because I don't intend to drop any of these shows. And I also rewatch parts I like in each episode and the number of times I do that is proportional to how much I liked it. Then when the recaps is up in dramabeans, I read it, comment on it, read other people's comments, reply to some of it and read new comments as well!(but only till it reaches 300 in case of MDBC after that I start feeling guilty for neglecting actual work) ;)

So, I feel like I do too much work for dramas and that I should put this energy to do something else and become rich or something! :D

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yes, SKL will make you suffocate on food when you suddenly laugh. dont eat. just put a towel on the keyboard to catch the drool.

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I want to watch On the way to the airport as soon as I got time cause I watched A good wife, a TW drama about affair's theme and broken marriage but so touching cause you see everyone perspective and how it just doesn't work and now I am not that sensitive to that kind of story line since I already has one story that fulfils the theme,

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aah my grammar sucked above ,

I want to watch On the way to the airport as soon as I got time cause I watched A good wife, a TW drama about affair’s theme and broken marriage.
AGW is touching cause you see everyone perspective and how it just doesn’t work,
now I am not that sensitive to that kind of story line since I already has one story that fulfils the theme,

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I agree that the TW drama, "A Good Wife", was good. That ending was so touching!

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"And can’t we just screw history and have Yeon-hwa become the next Queen Regnant"

It's too bad she had so many brothers. Queen Seon Deok and the other 2 queens of Shilla had no brothers so they were able to rule.

I like the fact that she is ambitious. Just because she is a woman doesn't mean that she has no desire for power or to be treated equally as her brothers.
Only in Goryeo and the 3 kingdom era can we see women rule the country, go to war (General Park's daughter) etc.
They are often overlooked and under praised like the majority of actresses in this forum lol.

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Have to agree that the Goryeo women in MLSHR are quite awesome ~ Lady Hae, Queen Yoo, Jeon Hwa, Seon Duk etc. They get to marry the men they want, manipulate the men in their lives, and are probably the true power behind the men & the throne.

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"I’m way older than them but damn the way Crown Prince gazes at Ra-on makes ME blush like mad and squeal like a teenager."

Me too! I absolutely love how Yeong lovingly gazes upon Ra-on, and how her face lights up everytime he sneaks up on her and calls her Ra-on ah. Mmm...I just love it when these two are together. It reminds me of a song from Dream High 2, "Together".

The lyrics go:
Living day by day, clashing in this world – when these things get hard
When you feel like you’re just one single person out of the countless people
When I see your eyes, looking at me lovingly, I feel special
When you hold me in your warm embrace, all my scars on my body heal

When we’re together when we’re together
Everything becomes alright, painful memories disappear
When we’re together when we’re together
I get happy again, without knowing, I put on a smile

When bitterness washes over me, when I suddenly feel like I’m alone
At the moment when everything feels strange and I suddenly have no confidence

Your voice that believes in me and gives me courage allows me to go out in the world again
The fact that you are a step behind me, always watching over me, is so precious to me

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All these similarly named shows seem ideal for combining into one story:
Woman with a suitcase, on her way to the airport... ends up drinking solo, while Cinderella and four knights... experience love in the moonlight, hoping to avoid jealousy incarnate that rules over moon lovers?
Does anybody have a better combo of titles?

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Damn. That's fantastic!

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Wow! :D How did you come up with this?

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Or: Cinderella and the four knights who serve Shopping King Louie incarnate jealousy for a woman with a suitcase full of moon lovers. You oK2 with this Law of the jungle in the moonlight?

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I seem to be in the minority in that I would rather they explore the Yeon Hwa/So angle than just sort of erase it from history. Mostly because I'm up for shows trying new things and it would be very interesting to see a meta modern perspective and dilemmas surrounding a now-taboo subject such as incest. I felt the same about the Wook/Su relationship while Lady Hae was alive, and LOVE how the show had Baek Ah call them out on their flirting and how we then got a perspective re: a relationship such as theirs, presented as a moral dilemma even in an age where it may not necessarily have been one. I wish more shows explored history as it was (and more people were up for it) instead of trying to whitewash it to fit modern sensibilities, but had a modern perspective through other means; writing, direction, framing, etc.

Despite all its flaws, I personally think this show is brave and I like that about it. Even the forced kiss wasn't romanticized, but it highlighted how our identification with So was as equally problematic as his banishment from the family circle-- because he always has that potential for violence, and the show has never shied away from it. I don't think that the confession was supposed to make us swoon anyway, quite the opposite (while the Moonlight confession obviously WAS supposed to make us swoon, and did.) Which is what I like about this show though, it takes its characters to dark places and then leaves it to us as to what we feel about their actions, without trying to exonerate them. Just as we'd begun to feel awful for So and his outsider status, the show gave us scenes which made us rethink how completely we tended to identify with him.

This is an incredible time for dramaland, I am drowning in great shows, what a terribleamazing situation to be in.

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I love how you can be perfectly sober and clear-headed. When Wang So said that I was a bit taken aback as well (like many viewers and girlfriday I guess) but your comment now helps me to reflect and understand why I felt that way. Someone mentioned their aversion to incest (between the princes and princess) in one of the above comments too. But, that was what happened in history. The royal family back then was not really a "family" in my opinion. Half-siblings were far from brothers and sisters; they were suitors for marriages because the princes and princesses were not supposed (or even allowed) to marry anyone else outside of the bloodline anyway. They probably did not grow up together either (So was away from Yeon Hwa for maybe 15 years?) and therefore did not develop any emotional & moral barrier to sexual relationships. That they could marry each other was actually not that offputting if we take into account how things were *back then*. So yes, I also totally applaud the show for not "whitewash it to fit modern sensibilities".
By the way, (I dont speak Korean and I am not sure but) the translation of what Wang So said was not "If you tell me you love another man, I’ll murder him" in the version that I watched. It seems that he said "I dont know; I might kill that man". So was a warrior, he killed many people and - as Wook explained to Su - it was not like he wanted to kill but he might need to kill I guess. In any case, it is repugnant when we think about how it is in our time but it is not ill-fitted given the historical context.

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+1 I agree on the royal bloodline theme. I feel like if that is a historical truth, then it can and should be presented as such. Especially considering that keeping the bloodline pure was such a concern of the early kingdoms. And I do remember reading about the Westermarck effect in psychology, where it was basically implied that the reason that most siblings do not develop a sexual attraction to each other is not because of their genes, but because of their domestic proximity. Were the siblings to be separated for a majority of their childhood and lives and to meet at a later stage, they'd be MORE likely to develop feelings towards each other because of their strong genetic attraction. The theory of reverse sexual imprinting may or may not be true, but it supports what you said about how So and Yeon Hwa did not grow up together.

As for So's statement about murdering the man she liked, I kind of found that frightening. It reminded me again that this man has the capacity to be dangerous. It's true, it's no big deal in the historical context-- especially since we also know that it's presumed that whoever is king will probably kill their siblings to maintain the throne, and casually talking about killing siblings seems even more of an issue than killing the man the woman you're obsessing over loves-- but it's still frightening, lol.

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How would you like them to explore that? If So seems only interested for political reasons and only vaguely, there is not much room to explore that story. I am not against it, I really like that they are brave enough to show she has a crush on him and he does not even seem to dislike the idea of marrying her, at least not in the early episodes.

I also loved when Baek Ah called them up on their flirting but I thought maybe that was a bit too modern? Would a prince really think that much about some flirting when they could have several wives?

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Hmm, I'm not actually sure, I'm just hoping they don't do away with it entirely, especially since they have set adequate base for it. Like I never felt So was interested in Yeon Hwa for political reasons, he did seem to be attracted to her in that one (strange) scene we had of him talking about how she's grown up. I feel like because I'm not really shipping anything in this show-- or at least not to the point where I would put the ship over the story-- I wouldn't mind even if they go wholesale on the issue; show both So/Soo and So/Yeon Hwa. Which I doubt is going to happen because kdramas are usually so fixated on the idea of One True Love that it's difficult to have the hero be interested in two women and for the audience to find it palatable. I, on the other hand, would love it, lol, I think it makes for a good story.

I think what was great about Baek Ah's scene-- and what saved it from being modern, while simultaneously being a meta-modern commentary-- was that he had an agenda for it. It wasn't that Baek Ah was averse on principle to the idea of multiple wives or would universally condemn some flirting outside of marriage, it's that the person getting shunned in question was the woman that he loved; Lady Hae. Which is why it was very smart of the show to use Baek Ah to call them out. Any other prince and it would have been unnatural for the prince to be so concerned about this-- especially, as you mentioned, having multiple wives was common practice. But because it was Baek Ah, it was more about Lady Hae the individual, than the general practice. And because Su has a modern perspective on it, while Wook has a tendency to be conscientious, it hit them both hard, and thus the show itself commented on how it WAS a moral dilemma for all involved, and they'd been ignoring it while living in their fantasy world, and thus we got a modern perspective on something that could easily have been seen as inherent to the times.

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Yes, there was that comment from him. I'm not sure if he was a bit interested in her of if he felt someone so desirable like her could never be interested in him and that alone was enough reason to want to know if she would consider him an option. Later he had some conversation with her and Yoo that pretty much said as much or that was what I got from him on that scene.

I think if the show had 35 eps I would like the to explore more this political marriage, though it is not romantic it could be interesting. Since it has only 20 and for me already feels rushed, I'm ok with them ignoring it. I'm already glad they dared to show as much as they have about this.

Yes, I agree that Baek-Ah having feelings for Lade Hae does explain how he could say all that. I wish we had more from the other princes like that scene, they don't have enough story. When I finally find a sageuk to love, even a crazy one like this, it is just too short.

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Most of the older conventional sageuks are not sugarcoated for our liking. This is the era of fusion fantasy fairytale sageuks.
I wish there was at least a good balance between the old and new or more sageuk specials like "The Dirge Singer." So true to the time period and culture. The chemistry between Kim Yoo-jung and Seo Jun-young was fantastic. Not your usual lovey dovey kind of chemistry.

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OMG, finally someone mentioning that, when I watched that I remember Kim Yoo-jung was only 15 and she was bringing raw emotions about being the daughter of a dirge singer, I cried watching that. I absolutely love their chemistry too, but I think he's a little too old for her.

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It was perfect because it wasn't about age or romance. I cried like a little baby when she cried.

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No, but I tend to romanticize everything in my head, and he felt so wrong for me, but I still like that one very much. I didn't even know dirge singer existed before that.

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That's the beauty of it. We can interpret it however we want for our enjoyment.

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If you haven't seen "The Story of Hyang Dan" you might want to check it out. It's a light hearted rom.com based on a popular folktale during the Joseon era and there is only 2 episodes.

http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/09/hyang-dan-jeon-the-story-of-hyang-dan/

I think Joseon does the light-hearted rom.com well despite being a strict patriachal society.
There is something about going against all odds like Moonlight.

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Yeah, I'll definitely check that out when I have the time. After reading about The Dirge Singer last night, I ended up watching KBS Drama Special on youtube. I love most of their drama special.

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Ah, really? That's good to know! Maybe then it's a difference of audience? Like maybe the audience that watches the older conventional sageuks are already inured to all that that the newer audience of the fusion sageuks wants changed to fit the modern times. Because I am surprised by how many times I see the point about Yeon Hwa and So come up, although historically, she was his wife. I can imagine that the show may-- as it says at the beginning of every episode-- take creative license with dramatizing events or even changing them, but I wouldn't expect there to be such a demand for changing history itself.

I looked up The Dirge Singer, it looks v. interesting, I shall check that out!

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Yes, our generation are not into stuffy sageuks but it's still popular among the older folks and sageuk/history fans.

Dawn of the Empire (2002-94 eps) would be the closest one to the actual history.
The Iron Empress (2009-78 eps).
Then it goes fusion with Shine or go Crazy (2004 - 24 eps) and it's based on a novel by Hyun Go-woon.

Here is an article on the history of sageuks in Korea by MrX.
http://www.yesasia.com/us/yumcha/sageuk-koreas-80-year-long-love-for-history/0-0-0-arid.125-en/featured-article.html

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The Dirge Singer only has one episode but powerful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6FCzlOh3mA

I wish KBS would do more.

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Yeon Hwa/So angle would have made a better story. Unfortunately, this director had a simple minded agenda = BOF+BATMAN?? :(

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I thought it was just me but it's the case with everyone. No matter what you say about moon lovers, it's close ups, it's acting, it's very very obvious flaws, it's still somehow a show I'll come back to no matter what.

I tell myself that I'm better than this and MDBC is enough to satisfy me and keep me perfectly happy on Mondays and Tuesdays and yet I'll click on Moonlovers no matter what.

I tell myself I'm not doing it again but still I'll come back. *Sighs*

Oh god, this just proves that I'm in a relationship with Kdramas.

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same lol I keep finding so many things wrong with it, and yet.... and yet

it's like Moonlovers is my on-off boyfriend I'm telling myself "ok we're never hooking up again" and then it calls me, looking all sexy, taking off its mask to show off its new bb cream covered face and I'm just staring at it with this vague expression that for some reason gets interpreted as pity when no, I just feel uncomfortable when the camera is all up in my face why does this keep happening

where am I going with this

*whispers* Moonlovers, I don't know what to do with you.

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Love it haha

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Goryeo BB cream ingredient list
Uncomfortable closeups, little bit of incest, worst mother ever lived, baby baby baby boy, sexy scar, caffeine, heroin, nicotine, cocaine
Strangely irresistible, cannot stop 'say yes say yes' every week.

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Moonlight drawn by clouds: i have 1st, 2nd, and 3rd lead syndrome. Plus a bit of ra on-ah syndrome, and Teacher syndrome. Love them all. Except that damn king.

Moon lovers: Lee Jun Ki/Wang So. That is all.

K2: wasn't going to go there, I was massively disappointed in the first two episodes, but I trust in the Four Episode Rule. Now I'm staying for Song Yoona. She's wonderful.

Rewatching Healer: because of the romance and Ahjumma.

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