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Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: Episode 20 (Final)

We must not have wished hard enough for an ending that would magically solve the issues endemic to this production, since I can think of no other reason why this happened. It could’ve been worse (they all can be worse), but it’s certainly not what we would’ve hoped to see at the end of this sometimes rewarding, sometimes grueling journey through a modern girl’s integration into a time far from her own. Which leaves us to wonder, was it all about love? Altering history? Fate working in very mysterious ways? Who knows.

…No, really, does anyone know?

 
FINAL EPISODE RECAP

Su arrives at Jung’s secondary home, and finds herself thinking of So when Jung outstretches his hand to help her out of her palanquin. But since they’ve been forbidden from marrying by the king, Jung’s prepared a more secret ceremony, though he tells her not to worry—even married, he’ll just consider them as friends.

He explains how she’ll be set up nicely in this house, and that he’ll come to visit her often. She’s all smiles until he gives her back the hairpin she’d given him as a symbol of her desire to leave the palace, which carries with it the memories of So, who had given it to her.

The small box of belongings she brought with her contain the multiple copies of the poem she had So write, and she looks at them with tears in her eyes. We then cut to her married life with Jung, as Su etches a likeness of So on a stone, and Jung practices his swordsmanship.

But Jung gets the eerie feeling that they’re being watched, and suddenly leans forward as though to receive a kiss from his wife. She just smiles and dabs his sweaty forehead instead, which is when Jung gently takes her hand and tells her that he’s arranged for the recently retired royal doctor to pay her a visit.

It’s clear that Jung’s putting on a husbandly show for whoever it is that’s spying on them, but we can’t see who. Inside, the doctor feels her pulse to check on the baby in her womb—apparently this is something Su’s known about, but when the doctor first checked her, it was too early for him to tell.

However, he warns that her already shaky health will be tested with the baby, but Su is adamant that she’ll do whatever it takes to ensure the health of the child. Jung is taken by surprise with the news, and orders that the doctor stay with them for a time, since they can’t risk this secret getting out.

So receives an account of events from his spy, detailing how affectionate Jung and Su are. He’s livid since Baek-ah said the marriage would only be a formality, but this report claims anything but.

While completing her rock drawing of So, Su is suddenly overtaken by heart trouble, and So gets there in time to see Jung fret over her and carry her inside.

Adorably, Jung sleeps in a separate bed only feet away so that he can at least look at his wife. “Do you remember when we first met?” he asks. She wonders whether it was when she ran into the forest to save him, and the two reminisce over fond memories.

So can hear the two of them laughing from outside, and returns to his throne in a daze as he tells Astronomer Choi that he never wants to hear a single word spoken about Jung or Su ever again.

Meanwhile, Su imagines sitting across a table from So, both of them smiling at each other. “We have finally left the palace, and are alone together. You and I… we are the only ones left. We can forget the truths, lies, misunderstandings, and jealousy… the restless bickering over the throne and the many deaths. It is a time meant only for us, and I can love you to my heart’s content.”

Six months later.

Jung paces nervously outside the birthing room, the sounds of a crying baby coming from inside. The midwife comes out with a perfectly healthy baby girl, though Jung instructs the midwife to claim that the baby was stillborn to anyone who asks.

He goes in to find Su in a sorry state, though he reassures her that the baby’s in good hands—now all she needs to do is worry about herself. A tear snakes down Su’s cheek as she weakly hands him a letter to be delivered to So, though it’s not news of the baby. “I… want to see him,” she explains, and Jung readily agrees (though he changes the calligraphy on the front, claiming that his wife’s writing is too identical to the king’s).

Su holds her infant daughter in her arms, but is suddenly stricken by an illness that has her swaying on her feet. We don’t hear what the doctor has to say, and Su doesn’t seem to notice the letter she wrote to the king sitting on the table nearby. Or is it another letter? I can’t tell.

After discussing matters of state with Astronomer Choi regarding a plan to cut off supplies to the most powerful clans to silence their voice, So is given another letter from Su.

But since the envelope is in Jung’s handwriting, he believes it to be from his half-brother and throws it into a pile of other unread letters, all of them from Su.

Looking sicker than ever, Su wonders why So hasn’t come yet, considering how she’s sent him so many messages: “Does he hate me that much?” Jung stops himself from saying that he’s already sent messengers, instead claiming that he forgot while promising to get on that immediately. Aww. Just live happily ever after, you two.

In an effort to cheer her, he brings her outside, where he’s gathered musicians from the capital to sing for her. Su is too weak to speak, so Jung ushers the singer to sing anything she wants, and the singer opts for a song that a court lady sang which made the king fall in love with her.

Su’s eyes open a little wider at that, and the singer commences with her song. Su recognizes it as the song she did, in fact, sing at Eun’s birthday. So had overheard from a distance.

This sparks more memories to come flooding forth as Su murmurs, “Long ago, you promised that you would treat my life as if it were your own. Do you remember that?” Then she turns to Jung as she weakly tells him to protect her daughter in her stead, and to never let her go to the palace.

Jung looks like he’s trying to hold it together, but Su’s given up all hope on So ever coming to see her before she leaves this world. He pulls her in so her head rests on his shoulder, saying, “Su-ya, in your next life, you will remember me, won’t you?”

Instead, Su whispers, “I’m going to forget you. I will forget everything. Even in my dreams… I will forget all of you.” She dies in his arms, and Jung can only cry as he holds her to him.

So receives news of her death in utter shock, only now coming to realize that all those letters he ignored were from Su. He tears them open one by one and reads them, and in them, she explains that she loved him completely. She knew that she left him with hate rather than love, and wondered if he resented her for it.

He clutches the letter in his hands and sobs, only now realizing the depth of Su’s feelings for him. And too late, at that. We flash back to her writing more letters of her love for him, recognizing each time he was there for her, and each time he was there to save her.

The voiceover continues as So spurs his horse to Jung’s house as fast as he can:

“I still love you. In the rain, when you tossed everything aside and stood at my side, when you threw yourself in the path of a flying arrow for me, I became unable to forget you for the rest of my life. The opposite of ‘to love’ isn’t ‘to hate’ — it’s to throw away. That I threw you away, and that you threw me away… I’m afraid [we’ll] think that. I miss you, but I cannot be close to you. Hoping we will meet again inside a winding fence, I wait for you every day.”

Baek-ah finds Jung in mourning clothes, caressing Su’s urn. He hands him a letter, which Baek-ah begins to read with tears in his eyes. They’re interrupted by a frantic So, who comes in crying for Su to show herself.

But when his eyes come to rest on the urn, devastation hits. Jung blames him for waiting too long, but So blames him for writing his own name on the letters—he had no idea they were from Su. Jung says he did it only because her handwriting was so similar to his (again, what and why?), but he can’t believe that So wouldn’t have known Su was dying when he knows So was tracking them with spies.

Baek-ah is the one to tell Jung that So stopped receiving reports once he learned that they were getting on so well, leaving that realization to hit as So grasps Su’s urn and sobs his heart out. “Su-ya, let’s go,” he says, clutching it. “Let’s go.” Ouch.

Jung refuses to let him pass, reminding So that she was his wife. “Su may be dead, but she is still mine,” So cries, and it’s only with Baek-ah’s intervention that Jung allows So to take the urn. Baek-ah laments that Su spent her life caught between all of them, and urges Jung not to make it any harder on her, even now.

But poor Jung can only take out the hairpin he originally took from Su as he cries pitifully. Only then does Baek-ah realize that Jung actually loved Su, and embraces his half-brother in solidarity. Aww.

So takes Su’s ashes to the spot where she’d once stacked her prayer stones, thinking back to his memories of her, and how she promised she wouldn’t leave.

After what Won only describes as “a long time” has passed, he’s given a ceremonial cup of poison with which to kill himself. But before he does, Baek-ah hands him the letter Chae-ryung wrote in blood to Su, which Su had wanted delivered to Won.

While the soundtrack transports us to The Lord of the Rings, Won reads Chae-ryung’s letter and thinks back to their few scenes together. He feels a shred of remorse as the chyron tells us that he was put to death for treason. (He’s not worth the screencap, guys.)

Baek-ah finds himself shadowed by a small girl, who he recognizes as Wook’s daughter. He tells her that he’s her uncle, and is momentarily off-put by her name being Bok-soon, since that’s name Woo-hee tried to give him once (before she was promptly outed for lying). Even stranger, he recognizes the ornament that Woo-hee favored on the little girl, who claims to not know where it came from.

But in the time it takes him to flash back to his memories with Woo-hee, the little girl disappears.

An older, bearded, and seemingly ill Wook takes a walk with Baek-ah, mentioning the changes So has made since becoming king. Rather than have any aspirations for the throne himself, Wook only says that he wants to see the kind of king So becomes. “I wonder if perhaps Goryeo has its most powerful king in history,” Wook adds thoughtfully.

Baek-ah asks if he still misses Su, prompting a rueful smile from Wook. “I don’t know,” he answers. “I was always giving my heart, but I was always making mistakes. I’ve only come to realize that now.” He coughs, and you know what that means—it’s time for Wook’s obligatory flashback to the past, though he surprisingly thinks of his first wife, Lady Hae.

Yeonhwa tears into her husband for not going to see his firstborn son, Wang Ju (future King Gyeongjong), even on his birthday. She thinks he only sees his son as competition, reminding So of the royal nephews he’s killed in order to keep his reign secure. The least he can do is trust his own son.

But So basically says that he doesn’t trust Ju because he doesn’t trust Yeonhwa, and he knows the two of them will turn against him one day. Yeonhwa blames his thinking on Su, since she was the only person who ever said that all people should be treated as equals. That’s why she believes So passed a law emancipating slaves (this was a reform Gwangjong was well known for).

Claiming that she now understands why Su left, Yeonhwa is all too happy to bring that up just to hurt So. He says nothing, and goes instead to the spot where Su once set up her prayer stones.

A little girl bumps into him and makes a big fuss about it, which reminds So of how Su once did the same thing. And lo and behold, the little girl runs to the man she calls “Father.” It’s Jung, of course—and oh God, his sideburns have only gotten bigger.

Jung apologizes for breaking his exile to come to the palace, claiming that it was only because today is the anniversary of Su’s death. When So asks if the child is his, Jung says yes, though So notes that the child is too old to be from his recent marriage.

Taking this as his cue to leave, Jung turns with the girl in his arms, which is when So notices that she’s wearing the same hairpin he’d once given to Su. He orders Jung to leave the girl with him, and Jung drops to his knees to give his firmest “No.”

He confirms So’s suspicions when he says that Su never wanted her daughter to live in the palace, leaving the poor little girl clueless as to what the adults are talking about. She looks over to her real father as So looks to Jung, officially releasing him from his exile. In fact, he wants him to come visit the palace as often as he wants. Aw, that’s going to be the only way he’ll ever see his daughter, isn’t it?

Astronomer Choi decides to retire from his position, but doesn’t leave without telling So to forget Su, who was never of this world anyway. Now it’s time—wait for it—for Astronomer Choi to get his own flashback to happier times. Has anyone not gotten a flashback yet? No?

The sky darkens suddenly with an eclipse, and So looks to the sky as the light disappears. A rider rides against the darkening horizon as we get a flashback montage of Su falling into the water and ending up in Goryeo under an eclipsing sky…

…And then, Su wakes in her own bed, in her own time, with tears running down her cheeks over the mysterious man haunting her dreams. Oh no. No no no no. You are not pulling the Dream Card on us. Anything but that!

While working at her cosmetics job, Su tells her coworker that she’s been having dreams about a man dressed in ye olde clothes with a scar on his face for nearly a year. Her coworker says it’s because she almost died from drowning, spent a year in a coma, and then woke up. Thanks, Exposition Fairy.

Su overhears snippets of a presentation being given on cosmetics in the Goryeo era (which she may have had a hand in helping along?), and is approached by the presenter afterward. It’s Astronomer Choi, although, not him, and he gives her an enigmatic smile as he reads her name tag.

Seeing her name as “Go Ha-jin,” he tells her that in the Goryeo era, “Go” was known as “Hae.” She notes that it’s a funny coincidence since she’s selling makeup inspired by the era, to which Choi says, “There is no such thing as coincidence. Things only return to their rightful place.”

But when she introduces the line of makeup to him, she remembers Baek-ah’s voice mentioning Bulgarian rose oil to her—though she’s confused as to where she remembers hearing that. Choi seems to study her knowingly, though Su does her best to shake it off and introduce some BB cream, which she claims was invented in Goryeo as well.

Saying that prompts her to think of So and his scar, leaving her severely shaken and confused. She leaves work early, but finds herself drawn to an exhibit of Goryeo paintings, each reminding her of scenes she doesn’t know how she remembers.

The paintings show the rain ritual, which she remembers in vivid detail, and King Gwangjong. “It wasn’t a dream,” she thinks, as some honestly random images are put forth in paint form—scenes that literally no one would have thought to paint, like her bowing deeply to the king on their first meeting, her saving Jung in the forest, etc. But we’ll just have to go with it.

Su looks around the gallery with tears in her eyes, seeing herself in every painting. Only then does she stop at a portrait of King Gwangjong, remembering So in detail. The biography accompanying the portrait tells of his legacy as a good king, which makes Su think of the day she’d been sure that So wouldn’t go down in history as a tyrant.

“I’m sorry,” she cries. “I’m sorry for leaving you alone.”

As she cries, the painting before her slowly comes into focus as we return to Goryeo during the eclipse. So looks up as though he’s heard her voice, which is when Baek-ah tells him that Wook has died, and he’ll be leaving the palace as well.

Standing alone like he was in the painting, So looks back over his shoulder, as though expecting someone. But he’s alone, and comments, “Life is fleeting.” It was the same thing his father said before he died.

He’d related what his father said to Su once, and had worried over her lost facial expression. He’d wondered what she was hiding, but Su only said that she felt anxious every day she was there.

“If we had met in another world, and in another time, I can’t help but think how great that would have been,” she said. “If only that were so, I wouldn’t fear anything. I could freely, truly, love you all I wanted.” The flashback fades, and So is left in the present (of the past) to rub the makeup off the scarred side of his face with a shaking hand.

“If you and I are not of the same world,” he thinks, “then I will find you, my Su-ya.”

Cut to: The two of them walking together in flashback, with So offering to carry Su on his back due to her hurting knees. Together and laughing, they run forward.

 
COMMENTS

Really, Moon Lovers? Not one hint that Su would find her present day So? Not even after that line? You chose to show a piece of flashback footage instead? That’s how you wanted to end this, by having So look to the future, but think of the past instead? That’s your big message?

I admit it would’ve been a cheap fix to have So appear in the present day, but I was willing to take anything. It’s not as if the show established any kind of rules when it came to Su’s time-traveling, but this ending gave me horrible Dr. Jin vibes, in that both were adaptations of much more successful foreign dramas, both protagonists woke up in the present day remembering the past, and no questions were ever answered. Ever.

While we can point to failures on many levels, it was really the execution that bogged this show down, and that was never more apparent than in the episodes leading up to this finale. Su gradually lost any sense of self she may have possessed, and we lost our eyes and ears into the strange world she’d entered into. Nothing solidified that more than when we found out she was pregnant this episode, which was something she already knew. There’s a cardinal rule for protagonists in TV, especially those whose point of view we’re seeing the show through: You can keep secrets from everybody else, but you can’t keep them from the audience.

Because at that point, we’ve lost our point of entry into the events happening on screen. At the point where Su had her own agenda that we weren’t privy to, why keep trying? Who were we following? Why did it matter? I hate how bad finales bring up existential questions, but I sat for a good five minutes after this show ended just trying to think of the why of it all. What were the resonant themes? Where was the dramatic clarity, or tension? How did Su hope to solve anything by leaving?

If her main reason was her pregnancy, then we were really cheated when it came to her realization happening off-screen. The reason why it sucks to have protagonists keep secrets is because we can’t follow them, and it would’ve been a great help for us to know whether Su was playing the noble idiot and leaving the palace because of the baby. But instead it felt like she left because she just had to, but she missed So every day because she left. So why? Why anything?

By the time we reached the end, I realized that what was missing was a central conflict. I still don’t know what we were supposed to want for this show and its characters, because I couldn’t buy into the love story between Su and So despite desperately wanting to. Unfortunately for So, he was virtually nonexistent for much too long, and we only knew he would be important later on by virtue of him being played by Lee Jun-ki. But were he a total unknown, and were this not an adaptation, we would’ve been sorely misled in the beginning with the Su/Wook loveline, the development of which seemed to outweigh the thought put in to the development of the Su/So pairing.

Which isn’t to say that they made a mistake in focusing on that loveline first, but they did make one in not laying down a better foundation for us to jump to the So ship later. It’s entirely possible that these two lovelines worked out great in the much longer original version, but there’s really no excuse for this show’s inability to tell the story it wanted to tell in the time allotted to it—and with it being pre-produced, it’s even worse. It’s not like that twentieth episode just snuck up on the writer, or that the writer didn’t have time to plan out how to adapt a longer drama into a shorter format. That’s the whole point of pre-production!

Going back to the episode, and bypassing all the WTF-ery surrounding Su’s return to the present, her year in a coma, presumably another year having dreams about the past, Astronomer Choi being back in the future (but not as a homeless man), the eclipse that somehow blurred the lines between both worlds, the paintings of scenes no one else would’ve seen or thought to paint, the fact that Su spent years in the past while only a year or so passed in the present, the fact that Su physically died in the past and all the questions that raises about whatever happened to the girl who used to inhabit Su’s body, what were we left with?

We’re left with Lee Jun-ki putting on a one-man show. And, okay, Ji-soo got his moment to shine this week, which made me desperately wish we’d focused on his love for Su rather than the tenth prince’s crush. But that’s neither here nor there at this juncture. I guess it’s the same as with any show that limps its way to its finale: I wish it had been better, because there was a good drama underneath all the nonsensicality and noise. But we can’t win ’em all.

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I’ll confess without any shame that I cried more than once during this final episode and the music especially “Will Be Back” didn’t help at all…I really cried when all three were at Jung house after Soo died,the utter pain of Soo and Jung as well was too much,also I found myself crying as well at the end when Hae Soo/Ha Jin saw his portret and read about him ending with the portet of him all alone,that felt soo sad and lonely…I was expecting the sad ending as i knew the concusion of the original one but damn it hit it really hard,at least there the 13th Prince stayed by the Emperior side till his death while Soo was all alone,everyone he cared for left him...I felt so much sadness for Wang So,in the end being all alone,my heart cried when he saw and realized that the little gir [Read more]

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Lee Jun Ki announced in a fan meeting of his that there was more to the end than that and there are pictures of him shooting scenes in present day.

I guess we'll never know.

Although I was disappointed the emotional quotient was really high in this I agree I bawled so much. I think I started when that singer announced that she was going to sing a song that made the king fall in love with a court lady.

I knew what was going to happen and I was like... Oh hell no. And there started the waterworks.

And when So 's daughter bumped into him just like Su did.... Shit. If nothing this show manages its parallels perfectly.

And that last shot of them laughing I don't know why but it hurt so much as if they could be happy but they never had the chance.

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In the original she actually sees him at the exposition yet she chooses to take her glasses off and only sees him blury as she knows the man isin't the one she loved yet the scene is there...Don't see why make him film all this scenes and even more for the final if they don't show them...The SBS edited only one scene from the original version and that is were Queen Mom tells Wook she wants to ake his son to the palace and make him king

All in all nwo i wish LJG doesn't take another year to return,too long!!!

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Agreed. I'm contemplating whether I'm desperate enough to watch the Chinese Scarlet heart season two just to get some closure. But then no LJK so I'm pretty sure ill last about two minutes before giving up.

And that queen mother scene made me go like, stop already.

*Sighs* I really don't know what to do about this drama

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I heard the sequel to Scarlet Heart 2 c-version is really bad and will ruin everything amazing about Scarlet Heart 1 c-version so I left it at that and was just happy to hear Nicky Wu and Cecilia Liu got married - they had their happy ending in real life!

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@KayIs the Chinese version of Scarlet heart better?

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Sadly, I watched the drama Scarlett Heart 2 before 1. It was long and good until halfway when it went makjang crazy and had a few gotchas and a very unsatisfactory ending. It was depressing to invest that much time into a show without getting any satisfying closure, so I wouldn't watch it.

After that, I started Scarlett Heart 1, and it was so magnificent and compelling, but when the angst started halfway, I had to stop watching. I just couldn't watch the sad after the long tragic sequel that sort of ended happy...****SPOILER ALERT******are they blind? Are they dead? Was that just a fake out? Are they really going to be friends with the guy who tried to kill them? END OF SPOILER.

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Scarlet Heart 2 was a mess, because after they were done filming, the Chinese Censor Board, banned time-travel as a drama theme/plot. So they had to cut and paste the drama in post-editing to remove the time-travel bit, and ended up with a nonsensical mess.

The good thing was the leads fell in love while filming and got married shortly after :)

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the conversation between Wook and his mother can be made as a sequel. how wook's son avenge his father and in the process reaveling the truth about Yeon Hwa.

i want to see Yeon Hwa got punished (in anyway). she is the first trouble maker, if she didn't set up Soo as the culprit when So is poisened, Soo will never get sick like that.

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Please stay away from Scarlet Heart 2. It's bloody awful not only as a sequel to Scarlet Heart, but as a general series. That thing was a cash grab and got screwed over even further by the censorship. It added nothing to Scarlet Heart and was only tangibly link to the original ( in the dumbest, wackiest ways).

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Don't. If anything that is worse than ML. I have now followed BBJX 1 and 2. And watched most of ML.

I never want to go near this series again. I kept hoping the ending would make more sense. All 3 freaking dramas didn't. I am so angry with myself for watching all 3.

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What a makjang ending! No LJK in modern times. That's weird. Hopefully they will have an additional or alternative ending in the DVD or online version just to pacify the viewers.

For a pre production drama this is a pretty bad finale. I hope LJK picks up a better drama in the future coz he deserves better than this messy plot and melodramatic end.

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I was quite mentally prepared that I can't get a satisfying ending with the things I went through in Moon Lovers just to get to this point. And yet, I am still as speechless as to how this ended. I'm on the 70% mark that I'll be watching the Chinese version because I need my closure.

I'm already laughing when HeadsNo2 mentioned the "obligatory flashback." Whoo. Can't believed I made it up to this point. I just love the cast too much.

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Definitely worth watching the original C-drama. The plot was better and because it was much longer than 20 episodes you get full character development without so many 'huh' moments.

The reason why Jung replaced the envelop which Su wrote was because it was considered 'treason' to have the 'same' handwriting as the king.... then again if it came from Su, So would have read it and it won't be an issue. The missing bit here was that the letters would be vetted before being passed to the King and in this case, you get the impression that letters are passed to So directly so Jung's action didn't make sense.

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I started to watch the S2 C version just to see what the setup was and RUN RUN FAR DO NOT GO THERE it is so bad. Five minutes and I was out.

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@DramaQueen But the letter wasn't passed directly from Jung to So if you meant physically passing from one to the other. It was Jung --> messenger --> eunuch --> So at the very least. And if that eunuch was the head eunuch, there were probably more "layers" of people involved to go from one level to the next...

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@aversive I highly recommend the C-series season 1!! The characters are flushed out and you get to see how Ruoxi developed such a deep bond with the various princes. Don't wanna give too much away, but it is a worthwhile watch in my opinion. Season 2 was something that seemed forced just so there can be a sequel. The plot and character development are flimsy though I do like the cast--they kept the two leads plus some side characters, but switched up some other characters. There's also a lot more PPL since it's modern day. =P

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Don't watch the Chinese one. It is fucking stupid. Don't worry, this one is sad, but the next one will end up happy.

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No. I couldn't finish it. end it with C - Scarlet Heart season 1 and be happy. The second season started out okay but it quickly devolved into nonsense.

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AND the original has a 2nd series set in the present...which HAD to have been the plan here, right?

All that has probably gone off the rails because of the low ratings, but I bet that the original expectation was for:

a) BIG rating$
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b) a follow up series

And if you think of it like that, all the shortcomings and problems we've seen become almost inevitable.

This wasn't a tightly crafted telling of a self-contained story; this was 20 episodes of prologue, meant to set up the next 20 modern day episodes.

Of course there's not going to be a full story with some sort of actual conclusion, because then what would everyone do when the action moves to 2017?

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OMG you've explained the entire drama! I did love the entire show as a beautifully told prologue. And the last episode was definitely setting itself up as a sequel premise:

-LJG saying he'll find her
-IU finally remembering the past
-Wook focusing on Lady Hae (they prolly want his s2 loveline to focus more on that)
-Won finally feeling some remorse towards guiltless CR (altho i dont buy it one bit that fucker)

Ugh damnit @production team. Stop the greed. This drama couldve been so much more

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Agree with u 100 percent!
An ending must suffer because of the production team is planning on thr next sequel

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I felt like that too. They could have edited the SBS version though because They have shot scenes with LJK in the present but I suppose since theyd already edited the international version they couldn't make such a high difference in the end.

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If this is true, then I am aggravated as all get out.

I've watched a lot of dramas now where it's obvious they thought they'd have an extension, and when they don't get it, the end always feels ridiculously rushed. Then you get the flip side where dramas get an extension, and then it's just whatever mess too. *sighs*

So if the Chinese Censors banned time travel, does that mean if there is to be a ML2, they will refuse money from China investors so as to not have a similar mess, or we are all going to be ready to burn SBS down?

*ponders*

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Not at all. The book only lasted till the present day after she woke up, and the drama is adapted from the book so it's not meant to be a set up for another series. The only reason why a second series spawned was because the first was a mega mega hit and they wanted to milk it. And the sequel was always going to be shit, disregarding the censorship issues.

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I'm sure that's what they were expecting. But I don't think that's what messed it up. From my viewpoint it started with the show's concept and the problems flowed from there.

By trying for a youth sageuk they incorporated actors that needed special handling. Which made the show disconnected. To suit that concept they oriented the soundtrack toward the youth market; but it ended up disrupting the mood of the scenes. (Who in their right mind would think rap is a good theme for scenes of budding romance?).

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Paroles I don't remember her waking up in the book.... from what I remember she died in the past and that was it... did I read it wrong?
Yes in SC1 Chinese version she does wake up in the present but that doesn't happen in the novel.

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@paroles From what I recall, the book never had the present day. Ruoxi died and that was it. The C-drama changed the ending to make it more hopeful for viewers with the added present day portion plus museum reunion. That, in turn, paved the way for the sequel, which ended up being bad since it wasn't penned by the original author and they just wanted to milk the series as you said. XD

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@NutellaFitzgerald Totally agree! This open ending is obvious that there would be plans for a sequel. Just that this show ended up being a domestic flop in terms of ratings, so now I don't know if they will or can proceed with a season 2. It did receive a lot of love in other countries though... But the thing is, the source and the C-series are so rich in content that you can never condense that into 20 ep's. It would naturually mean that you begin cutting out so many things that the original intent became lost and distorted. That's why there was no fluidity with the storytelling; not to mention, having to watch 3 versions of the same show is just a headache.

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I think this is exactly right. The way they spent so much time after Soo-Hee's death, giving updates on all the brothers (even awful Won).... that was totally a set-up for a season 2 that was intended, but probably won't happen.

I wondered why Baek Ah met the girl with the name Bok-soon and the familiar jewelry. Would that have been the name, or a clue, to season 2? Otherwise, why emphasize it?

Wook had to start "loving" his first wife more in his flashback, because he can't be a contender in a season 2. This way he'll be in the future atoning for the way he treated his first wife, not manipulating to get Hae Soo.

Thinking back through the final episode, and the whole series, this makes so much sense.

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This drama was such a mess but I LOVED IT SO MUCHHHHHHHH.

They loved each other but it couldn't work ;___;

Why am I still crying

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I don't think I've been addicted to any other Kdrama as much as this one...

The second that Baekhyun song started playing I was shouting at the screen, oh hell no don't you dare stop here not without giving us some closure.

In hindsight though as sad as the ending was I suppose in a way it was far more powerful than the trope of them meeting in the future.

That flashback piggy back scene... I suppose I finally understood why Su kept on going back and forth with So it's because she never loved him that much even though she knew how much he loved her. And I suppose it was some sort of redemption for her character to say that if I get a second chance at this on my home turf I will make sure to love you with my whole heart.

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Ugh I'm so confused.

In hindsight I don't think any ending would have made me happy unless So magically transported to 21st century Korea.

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@aversive: "In hindsight though as sad as the ending was I suppose in a way it was far more powerful than the trope of them meeting in the future. Thanks Su, we watched twenty episodes just for you to promise that you’d love him completley only if you meet in the future. Which you didn’t."

I'm strangely ok with not seeing them meet up in the future. I was sure they would meet, but I kind of like ending it this way...sad, but good.

Not saying I wouldn't watch a season 2, though.

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I'm in good company. :)

I can see all that is wrong with the editing and production choices, yet of everything airing, this is what I looked forward to all these weeks.

I thought the ending was as good as they might have done, linking history through art and the present day without too much bubblegum. I was even okay if she honestly, as she said she would, forgot everything., but then I like 'spiritual' open ended endings... just not open endings without that element.

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I think she do love him very much... those 2 years waiting... but when he decide to choose to be a king .... she just like lady Oh... cannot ask all Wang so's (body and soul) for herself. Afraid to dream to give him a child since he become so untouchable for her. I think chae ryong thing is already being forgiven since she see the faults of her friend, but it is sad nevertheless of loosing a best friend in such tragic way and Wang so being so distant when he act as a King... they always have different opinion and she cannot even talk with him anymore. She's tired and afraid of the palace... and she doesn't want to give burden to Wang so. For me, that is why she choose to leave and love him from afar... scarlet heart ryeo... daebak... thanks for the good chemistries and filled these 2 month [Read more]

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@jamie me too! I'm okay with them not meeting in the future. I know a lot of fans wanted to have at least a hopefull ending where Wang So meets Go Ha Jin in the future, come on we stuck 20 eps (not to mention the research, watching all the versions, discussing with everyone just to set straight the confusing story) with it might as well get a happy ending since this is kdrama but them not meeting in the future is also a satisfying one. Go Ha Jin waking up in the the present after a year in a coma presumably with her memories of the past haunting her should be her punishment for leaving So alone. Your past lover lived alone for so long, longing for you yet she dare to pull a "dream card" on all of those people who loved her. All they ever wanted is to be remembered by her and so now she wil [Read more]

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@Jamie I'm with you on this one. The ending is kind of perfect for the lot they've been (we've been too) through. The promise So made to find her even though they don't share the same world (century) is good enough (for me) to conclude their love story. It is sad....but good and beautiful.

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yes it's quite a mess 😅 found many plotholes, some unnecessary secene and thepace is too fast in some episodes. and yet i still love this drama, hasn't move on from the finale cause it really break my heart 😢

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I agree with you totally - the editing was bad and the story and characters did not make sense - the characters appeared to be schizophrenic at times even but I enjoyed watching every episode and couldn't wait for new episodes each week. Gonna be sad now that it has ended.

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Despite the hot mess this drama was overall, I still adored it.

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I'm not sure if I missed it but all those portraits she drew of So on the rocks, did So see them? I thought he might find them in their garden. Or she might see them in present day but didn't. Also, a few episodes back So was firm that he wanted a "real looking" portrait of himself.

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I think the portrait in the modern gallery is the photo being drawn of him when Jung entered unceremoniously on the king's chamber because if not, then what's the point of planting that scene? But then this drama is notorious in planting plot points and not having a pay-off in the end or somehow there is but they lost it in the editing room.

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@aversive

I personally LOVED the c-version. Some will say it had it's flaws as well, however the story, production, writing and direction was handled with so much thought and organization. Also, with more episodes (35 I believe) - we were given a lot more background with each story arc and side stories. I would highly recommend it!

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When Jimong told Ha the name Go meant Hae in Goryeo i was for a moment thinking,don't tell me they hint a major twist and that she is the descendent of her child

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Does that make Su her own great-great-great-great (however many greats) grandmother?!

Damn, and I thought the incestuous marriages were hard to untangle in the family tree lol.

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this concept you were presenting is a lot like "kamisama hajimemashita" (anime) where the hero (fox demon who lived for 500 years) waited for the same girl. The girl goes back in time, help her ancestor survived, thus solidify her existence in the future. And girl meets fox demon in the future; both gaining the memories they have of each other.

Now, this one works coz the guy is a Fox Demon who has eons of lifespan.
Gwangjong, on the other hand... argh i cannot brain, head hurts.

she'd be romancing someone else completely (similar face, coz genetics), since gwangjong is a history.

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Does that make Su her own great-great-great-great (however many greats) grandmother?!

@pogo This will finally answer the question Which came first, the chicken or the egg? - it was the egg! :-D

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@Miky, I think that that is exactly what they are implying....

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I personally LOVE the cversion (season 1) that is. It was long but there was character development and the production was beautiful. I feel really cheated watching this one as I had high expectation with LJK rocked as the 4th prince. IU was good too but then from episode 12 on, it lost its focus. Everything was so rushed and the ending suck! It suck not because they didn't meet each other in the future.. it suck because I was really looking forward to the letter reading scene as that was an amazing scene with Nicky Wu but we didn't get that with from LJK as that part was cut short.. I feel cheated and I have no closure. I was not allowed to grieved with the 4th prince when he found out she died. In cversion after 4th prince took the urn, he had his time himself to go over their relationshi [Read more]

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Me too!!! I loved loved loved e Chinese version (no. 1)

The story is nice the progression and even all the why's.
I find that there's n villain in the Chinese Versini as each have their own ambitions and friends and therefore it is inevitable that there are clashes between the prince

Lastly the love story between main girl and prince no. 4 is so epic and true. And despite the angst and heartache it gives me. I still ask ppl to go n watch it. Hahaha

I cried for 3 days after the ending. Every time I think of their unfortunate love story I'm a mess!

I can't recommend it enough. Go n watch it ppl!

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@Yukie : The CVersion was worth all the headache as at the end of the day, you can say it was just a very sad love story! But this one.. sigh.. I can't even say what's wrong with it except HS doesn't deserve WS love. Just very disappointed. It could have been so good but it ended very flat and it's all the damn director/write fault! What were they thinking!!!!

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Same here. I feel totally cheated! I was expecting to cry buckets at the epic death scene when Rouxi/Su explained why she wants to be cremated and not buried... where she doesn't want her flesh to rot and earthworms to eat her up! And the emotions and anger displayed when 4th couldn't even say goodbye to her body. Instead they gave us a 10 second scene of IU just asking Jung to protect her daughter!
The only part i like about the entire K script is Su having a daughter and not a miscarriage.

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I also felt disappointed with the ending. :(
I found this online though. It's a game that helps us choose our own Moon Lovers Ending:
http://www.joysofasia.com/game-choose-your-own-ending-quiz-for-moon-lovers-scarlet-heart-ryeo-while-waiting-for-part-2-special-episodes/

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@happybi; to add to your very valid comment, "Her reason to leave could have been validated if we know she left due to the fact she was pregnant ..."

Lady Oh forewarned Soo not to suffer as she did, for her love of Taejo. I believe that Lady Oh told Soo about her miscarriage, and she named the culprit. Soo knew that she was pregnant, and became afraid that Yeonhwa would murder her fetus. Soo had to leave the palace before anyone could discover the pregnancy. Jung stepped in, with the escape clause. In the end, Jung told So, that Soo did not want the child to live in the palace. Why? Yeonhwa would kill the child. So also realized that, so he did not enforce his imperial parental rights.

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yes, it hurts sooo much seeing that piggyback scene. i did cry. seeing how happy they were 😢😢

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@aversive, here,here..

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So, it's not the finale... there will be two more epidodes airing Monday and Tuesday. Drama fever has announced it that there will be two more I believe so hope is not yet lost! :)

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I actually loved the tragic ending. True love stories had always a tragic end in history and that is what makes them eternal and impactful...yes I cried for WS but the moment he decide to sleep with YH their love turned to be doomed

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I agree. I feel like yeonhwa isn't given enough credit. She presumably got pregnant after so slept with her once.

It was only once right?

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No not even once..
They called the shaman from Mirror of the Witch.. well her ancestors!

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When was it? I mean him sleeping with yeonhwa?? I totally missed that scene :3

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@Annie
I think it was episode 19. Yeonhwa reminds him that one of her duties as a Queen is to give him an heir.
Later,i think it was after Baek-ah leaves and Su says she wants to leave the palace and they have an argument he goes to YH's room. He says he is willing to give her what she wants and the camera pans behind the sexy red curtains with them looking intensely at each other. Safe to say,they slept then.

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Historically they had 5 kids together. So they definitely slept more than once. lol.

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maybe other than the BB cream, HS also introduced WS to the wonders of IVF :D

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Ah. I had thought that scene was confirmation that Yeonhwa was okay with his brother being punished. May be that was the payback for an heir. :3
I also missed when did ever So and Soo slept together? I mean, Soo had herself said they were not even married when So talked about kids.
Soo was so selfish at times. :3 I can't get over this drama.

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@annie - it's strongly implied that they first slept together on the night she left the Damiwon to go after him when he was injured after he took the arrow in her place.

Also they visit each other's beds in the palace once he becomes the king, it's a regular thing. I assume their daughter was conceived during that time. (though yes, a little less ambiguity about the fact that they were sleeping together, would have been nice)

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I think the ending is appropriate too. They went for a poetic and poignant finish. I think what So meant when he said "I will find you in another life" or something along those lines were in reference to him leaving the painting for her (recall episode 19 before Jung tells So he got permission from Yo to marry Su.

I'm a guy and I totally get most of Su's choices. I wouldn't say she acted out of character. Maybe all the time hops worked against creating an empathy link with what seems to be the majority of audience. Su's character has always been anti-bloodshed. Her humanitarian views and innocent naivety is what garnered the affections of the princes. I find it ironic that commenters, most of whom are female (I can tell from all the drooling over LJK) are upset when she chose to leave [Read more]

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YES. Finally someone else understands. I completely understand Hae Soo's choices as well. I feel like most viewers forget that she is from the 21st century. We have very different values than societies did in the past and ultimately her present day mindset was what caused her so much suffering. But honestly I would have made many of the same decisions she did if I were thrown into the past like that.

I find it interesting that people think she shouldn't be upset about Chae Ryung, of course she betrayed Soo, but she was also her closest friend for years. I would be extremely upset if my best friend was killed by someone else that I loved, even if she turned out to have ulterior motives. In the end Soo chose to not compromise on her values and that's commendable in my opinion.

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Just to be absolutely clear - what pissed people off about Su in the Chae-ryung situation was NOT that she was upset about it, it was that she (to all appearances, and going by her own words) chose to believe that an unrepentant traitor who'd been lying to her, working to undermine her and ruin her life since practically the first day they met and admitted to it, was 'genuine' in her friendship and that therefore the punishment meted out to her for regicide was too harsh - not because So was cruel, but because Chae-ryung was her friend.

(a "friendship" that isn't even developed as much as Mu and Ji-mong, btw, and has zero basis other than Su suddenly declaring her to be like a younger sister)

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I was wondering about all the poem calligraphy, too.

All we end up knowing was that Su loved his writing (how pretty it was), and that in the end Su's writing was almost identical to So's. Did she copy it so many times so her calligraphy would be like his? Why? What does it mean? Why did he need to make more copies? Why did she take them with her?

So many questions.

Maybe something they intended to explain in a season 2? They sure emphasized it enough.

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Yes.... one should love themself before loving someone/anybody else ... and not losing her/him self in the process. Totally agree with you, if its become torture when you're loving someone its really unhealthy relationship, perhaps the right choice is took another path of life even if u still love her/him

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It was definitely good that Hae Soo left the palace, whether she was dying or not, whether she was pregnant or not, whether she was in love with So or not. Knowing she was pregnant, though, it would have been insane to stay, if she valued the life of her child at all.

"One question I have is what was Su planning to do with the phrase (when a river runs dry..bla..bla..)she made So rewrite a dozen or so times?"

I expected this to have a bigger payoff than for her calligraphy to end up looking exactly like his, too. So did ask her why she wanted it, when she was copying it out for her again, and I think she said something like "It's a secret, you'll have to wait." (My memory is a little hazy here.) Maybe it was supposed to play out in the sequel? Or maybe her intent [Read more]

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Yeah. But even in the modern days, if one is found guilty of murdering someone or plotting a murder, then they too are punished..be it jail or execution.
Her excuse for saving wook,chae (I agree, she should not have been such harsh punishment. Should have been banished instead.) was ridiculous.
So was the king. His elder and younger brothers were killed by those people and Soo wanted to save them just because she was friends with them once. She could have been just upset because of So's decision, not leave him. He was doing his job as the King like any other Prosecutor/President would do in today's world.
Soo understood everyone's actions but So's

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' After Wang So said that he will find her i would have made a transition somehow to the modern time were the present one would have found Ha Jin while crying and handled her a handkerchief and on the note said something like i found you,giving the couple and us a sense of hope…I usually hate reincarnation troupes because the person is not the same but i think in this case it would have worked and would end it better than it did…'

I have the exact same thought. At least, it gives us some solid closure. It is so frustrating - all the 20 hours watching time (not to mention the countless hours of waiting time) and this is the best they can do? Argggghhhhh tuwa chuseyo...

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i completely agree with you! That would have been great!

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soooo agree with you. i am a mother and i can not imagine how does it feels remembering the child that you gave birth but loosing her. those memory surely will effect her

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Ep. 20 left me with the distinct impression that a 2nd series should follow...one that doesn't waste the first half.

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I was actually pretty much done since two episodes ago. Just want to say thank you to Headsno2 for the recap and just to add something.

You were wondering why Jung covered Soo's handwriting because it is resemble the king, at that time to imitate the king is not a highest form of flattery but it is considered mockery thus treason (like anything in this drama and that period seemed to be) so that is the reason for Jung to cover Soo's letters.

And there are speculating rumors that the director was the one that butchered the series and the writers hate Hae Soo's character, which bring me to this, SUCK IT UP and make it better, whiner.

I'm out.

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If an actor acts badly, and when audience has paid to watch their project.. they have all the right to comment, show contempt of the work if it is nto at pat... BECAUSE its an actor's job to deliver his character well.. if he cant do it..he may as well quit acting..he needs to show sincerity and a progressive graph

If a cook can't make half decent food that universally doesn't suit anybody's tastebuds... then he is no cook and deserves the verbal thrashing..

Similarly, if a director can't do his job well he is responsible..

More than whiner, those arguments align to blind fanatism

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@Blargh,

You were wondering why Jung covered Soo’s handwriting because it is resemble the king, at that time to imitate the king is not a highest form of flattery but it is considered mockery thus treason...

Thanks for explaining that. It makes sense to me. Jung didn't want Hae-Su busted for forgery.

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So Hae Soo practically had the same writing as Wang So because she re wrote his poems for years? That's it? That's the whole point of it all? Why is there a scene of Hae Soo making Wang So re write it for her over and over? I thought the letters would have a big pay off later. Like, Wang So will find it years later or it would find its way to the gallery where Go Ha Jin is.

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I think Hae Soo just loves watching So writing them. Remember the first time Soo read So's letter and how happy she was seeing that nice, beautiful writing? I wouldn't take it too far, thinking there are hidden meanings. I would just take it as Soo's love towards So and that she was so happy just by looking at So's writing. Maybe Soo feels closer to Wang So by having the same writing and probably her love grows even more everytime she sees all the poems written by him.

I'm just saying. Who knows better other than the director tho? 😂

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Miky if you cry this much then you should watch the original chinese version. The scene when 14th asked Su to go see the flowers? Then the next scene it show the two small vase of blooms makes me laugh so hard. Sorry! But in the original version, it was a beautiful scene with lots of magnolia flowers bloom and as she watched and reminiscing her past with 4th then pass away. All the scene after that makes me cried my eyes out and I had watch the Chinese version for the 6th times and I still cried. The original was better because it has more episodes so each of the character had more time to developed. The ending was even more sad. I like this version but I love the original. I don't normally watch Chinese drama but I'd recommend this one.

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I really admire that you got the strength to watch the drama for the 6th time. I couldn't bring myself to rewatch it at all! It has such a tragic and sad ending that I remember myself taking weeks to get over. I still feel the pain every time I think of the drama. I love it to death but obviously couldn't handle the heartbreak ;(

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"...I for one would have totally changed the ending scene with another one…After Wang So said that he will find her i would have made a transition somehow to the modern time were the present one would have found Ha Jin while crying and handled her a handkerchief and on the note said something like i found you,giving the couple and us a sense of hope…"

Now THAT would have been a satisfying enough ending for me. Even if there wasn't a sequel, that would have given me hope and been enough for me to happily imagine what happens after that.

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I was so excited for this drama...watching episode 1 was like X'mas morning for me only to realized I got punked.

And went downhill from there, straight to the black hole.

Thanks DB for the recaps and all the fun comments of this community.

Until next time.

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And then from the black hole,

You time travel!

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spent 20hours and more for this end.... now, i know why this show was suck. bc it was a dream! a dream always ridiculous, that's why!

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I think it wasn't a dream. She only remembered by piecing together her dreams and the museum photos, and the suggestions of the future Jimong.

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At first, Su thought that it was all a dream after a year coma. But after future Jimong hinted her and after seeing the paintings, and knew the history of Wang So changed from a bloody monarchy to a wise king. She is convinced that it wasn't a dream but a reality, then that's why she said sorry to So for leaving him alone.

Imma cry again now. T.T

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that are call dejavu, ladies...

It was a dream. the only logic explanation for baaaaaad, ridiculous, and crazy plot.

if otherwise, just give me taco roll with writernim inside.. that's will up rise my mood..

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Couldn't agree more! The best thing about this drama were the recaps and hilarious comments thereafter.

Seriously, 20 eps of WTF-ery to end up with this hot mess.

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Even if he chooses oen with better editing , I am good!

Just anything but this..

** its unfair.. i desperately want public apology from the director and the editing team for this immense goof up!!!.. Owe up to your mistakes damn it!**

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"Don’t know about u guys but I don’t regret Lee Joon Gi taking this role because no one else could be as amazing as his Wang So,amazing performance"

The Wang So withdrawal started and it hit me hard... The problem is that it was not just that I fell in love with Lee Jun Ki (which I also did) but I also fell the hardest in love with the character Wang So. I wanted so badly for him just to have one person left beside him. But even Baek Ah left in the end. It hurts immensely to see him like that.
Before seeing episode 20 I had already resigned to the idea that Su and So would have a tragic ending and this show is a hot mess through and through. I thought I would just move on and watch another drama of Lee Jun Ki and I would be fine. But, because Wang So is forever lonely and hurt, I [Read more]

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Agreed. Wang So characters on this Korea version is too good... despite his jealousy to jung and wook, he still loyal to hae soo by not kill wook and let her and jung in peace

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I think the director really done a really good job on every dramatic scene... especially on the last Episode, when Wang So scraped the concealer and reveal his scar, when he said "my... soo-ya"..... what a face and good take!!!!!!! Omg I still goose bump. I'Lloyd have to re-watched. So many touching, heart warming, and funny scenes. The one with "Pegasus stars" ... and another scene of watching the stars when hae soo forbid Wang so to kiss her if she did not give him the permission... wkwkkwkwk WHT a childish face of wang so when he said " I won't.... " ....

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The PD and the writers are not ruthless, they are dunderheads. Scarlet Heart is one huge steaming pile of cow dung with one large flawless diamond on top: Lee Jun Ki's amazing performance.

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Can someone explain if little Bak Soon is Beak-Ah's daughter with Woon Hee? I didn't understand that scene.

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No Bak Soon is Wook daughter. People think she may be a reincarnation of WH. In Korean history, BH actually have an affair with Wook daughter who is Bak Soon! Yes, there's a huge age gap!

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Very disappointed with this drama. TT What could have been! I loved the Chinese series and was so looking forward to an awesome k-drama spin! I think had the series been longer, then they would have had more time to do development of the characters... and perhaps in the hands of a more experienced adaptations writer, it would have been better(?)

In other news, if you guys are interested in getting more closure, watch the Chinese version =)

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Unfortunately, this show has been horribly botched, but, I still want to see that show about Yeon-hwa (Queen Daemok).

I don't believe there has been a show based on her life, but I do hope some smart writer in Korea will do justice to her life's story.

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@Sojuboy
Me too. I would like to see a drama about Yeonhwa(Queen Daemok). Unfortunately in Moon Lovers Scarlet Heart Ryeo Yeonhwa(Queen Daemok) was wasted and basically a typical jealous female.
No there has not been a drama based on her. I have seen three dramas with her either mentioned or a secondary character in them. The dramas are Iron Empress/Empress Cheonchu, Shine or Go Crazy, and Moon Lovers Scarlet Heart Ryeo.

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Would you recommend Shine or Go Crazy? I'm curious about that one. I liked Jang Hyuk in Gaekju and Beautiful Mind.

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I need to see a shrink. I think I'll be scarred for life. :'(

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The plot might have big plot-holes worthy of digging a well but still Wang So is such a character which would move us to tears. Lee Joon Gi once again played his part with perfection. I'll remember this drama singly for him.

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i think it's safe to say that the application of mustaches is the true kiss of death of everyone in the show. within a couple episodes of donning the 소 stache any character is inflicted with madness and bull-shittery until they die in a weak sauce way (or, if you're extra pathetic like wook, you die off screen).

moon lovers should really be called DEATH NOTE: mustache edition.
victims:
dick king dad
mu
dick king yariru
wook

the only men who survive are clean shaven. moral of the story? DON'T GROW A MUSTACHE. EVEN IF IT'S FOR CHARITY FOR NOVEMBER. YOU WILL BECOME KING OF GORYEO, GO CRAZY, AND DIE.

ok. that's what i got out of this series. any further remarks?

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ETA: I TOLD Y'ALL THIS WAS SOME SORT OF BAD MIX OF DR JIN AND BLADE AND PETAL

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HAHAHAHA, yes! So much yes!

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"i think it’s safe to say that the application of mustaches is the true kiss of death of everyone in the show"
LOL I couldn't help but laugh with your comment xD

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And stay away from any girl who time travel to your era. She may look cute and kind, but her stupidity will be the downfall of your lot. She's a harbinger of doom. Stay away!

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This is why Jung only grew sideburns as he became older.

Sure he looks weird but hey, he's alive.

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HE saw the pattern of events and said no way, man. Good!

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I felt like Jung's concession prize was Su's daughter.So got her "love" which consisted of abandoning, not trusting, etc and was left all alone while Jung got a mini Su as a souvenirr

I think Jung is the only one who got a happy ending.

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The power of the ugly sideburns is real.

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I'm really happy that Jung got Mini Su as consolation--the one person who can protect her from entering the palace.

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Pwahahahaha!!! Jung has amazing intuition!!

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You say clean shaven but we have Eun...

But then againim still confused. Was he a man? Or was he a boy?
Or was he somewhere in the middle like a boy-man.

Damn. That's probably the worst superhero name ever.

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baekhyun man, baekhyun man,
does whatever an exo can.
kills a bird
folds a cloth
then gets stabbed
his mouth froths

LOOK OUT
it's baekhyun man

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Just sanng this out loud to the tune of spider pig from the Simpsons.

I'm still laughing

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when your super power is you getting stabbed because you don't know how to fight and your wife does all the bad assery for you and dies in the process....
WHY did this prince get the time of day over jung again? why was this royal pain in the ass given so much screen time?

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@cali
Baekhyun who plays Eun is a big deal back in Korea. He's probably the most famous exo member and a lot of the advertising solely revolved around his star power. A lot of people around the world who don't usually watch Kdrama's but are kpop fans tuned in to watch him.

That's probably why.

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@cali if he could only act as well as he could sing...

I mean the Moonlovers song he sang with the other 2 exo members is ridiculously catchy.

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Well they had to be sure and fulfil the recipe for a bad drama:
Idol who cant act - check
Idol who can sortof act but not well enough - check
Illogical, unexplained behavior - check and mate
Cringeworthy OST - yup
Editing by gang of drunken monkeys - definitely yes
Direction by Magic 8 ball - check
Just Plain Bad Writing - oh yes
Ending courtesy of WTF - bingo

A much shorter list would be, 'What did they get right?'

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@cali Completely agree! I couldn't for the life of me understand how Eun got more screen time than Jung, knowing that the source and C-drama had 14th prince as end game, so to speak. The 10th prince didn't have much importance to the original plot, unlike 14th. So, I was excited when Jisoo got cast as Jung. Then, reality hit and Eun had twice as much screen time, sacrificing the Su-Jung friendship development in the process. Not to mention, Jung scenes in international version were the first ones to end up on the cutting room floor in the edited SBS version, which frustrated me to no end.

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OMG lol

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He was so awkward and unnecessary at the beginning, glad at least his death was memorable. His acting was actually decent there. Also helps that Z Hera's character is cute enough to make his screen time tolerable.

Seohyun's death scene on the other hand...well I bursted out laughing for doing the same face she made throughout the show, like someone farted in front of her or something.

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