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The Lonely Shining Goblin: Episode 6

I miss the comic hijinks we had yesterday, but the melancholy tone is lovely too, and it’s a big episode for our gloomy goblin, who has to make some pretty big decisions about life, death, and the consequences for those around him. He seemed pretty dead set (hur) on the dying, but the problem seems to be that the closer he gets to death, the more he begins to want to live. Isn’t that always the way?

 
EPISODE 6 RECAP

As Shin and Eun-tak return to their favorite restaurant in Quebec, Shin is suddenly struck with a vision of Eun-tak’s future at 29: She proudly tells Sunny over the phone that she’s traveling well and hardly getting lost, and waits for someone to join her, and Shin realizes that he isn’t there with Eun-tak in her future.

He thinks, “You and your life after my disappearance have forgotten me and come to perfect completion. I must disappear. For the sake of you, who smiles prettily. The choice I must make is ending this life.”

He imagines deleting himself from all of their memories and says out loud, “In the end I made that choice,” and wells up with tears. 19-year-old Eun-tak hears those last words and wonders why he’s looking at her so sadly.

Reaper and Deok-hwa are all dressed up, and we see why when Sunny brings a friend out for a double date. It’s all part of Sunny’s plan—she says that you can figure out a man’s true nature when he’s around his friends.

Her friend looks out the window at Reaper and Deok-hwa arriving and sighs wistfully that whoever gets to date those men must be happy. Sunny agrees with a big smile.

The mood back at home is melancholy, and when Eun-tak braves a knock on Shin’s bedroom door, he ignores it. He seems to come to a decision and belatedly comes out to the living room. Without warning he says, “Pull out the sword, now. I’m asking you.”

She doesn’t know how to respond, but he insists, saying, “I want to stop… thinking the thought that I could choose.” But… isn’t this choosing? She asks if this has anything to do with that choice he mentioned at the restaurant earlier, and looks nervous as she asks what he’s choosing to do exactly.

He says he only wants an answer from her, not questions, so she says it isn’t time yet because she hasn’t completed her research. She admits to looking him up on the internet but says there was almost no information, as if someone had gone and deleted it.

Eun-tak remembers what he’d told her initially about being the goblin’s bride—that if she discovered something about him, she’d come to resent him. She knows now that the “something” is the sword, but she doesn’t know yet why she’d come to resent him, so she knows there’s something else he isn’t telling her.

She asks, “Did you maybe do something bad, and that’s why you were erased from history?” She says that if he’s being punished for doing something bad, she’s not sure if she should pull out the sword. “Did you… commit treason or anything like that?” she asks. Ouuuuuch, of all the things, why’d you have to say that?

He instantly flashes back to the Goryeo battlefront, and then to the moment his king betrayed him. We flash for a moment to Reaper and Sunny, and then return to Shin.

He looks stricken as he says, “Yes, you’re right. It was a time where survival itself was a struggle. It was a time unrecorded in history. I used all of my strength, but I could not make my death honorable. Going forth to the king would not have made things better. But I came forward, and with every step I took, innocents lost their lives. My sin was not forgiven, and I am being punished. This sword is my punishment.”

Eun-tak listens with tears in her eyes, and Shin asks, “But even if that is my punishment, if I’ve received it for nine hundred years, isn’t that a long time?”

She says tenderly, “No… it can’t be a punishment. There is no way that god would have given you that power if you were truly a bad person. If you were a bad person, only goblins would exist, and there would be no goblin’s bride to pull out the sword.”

Her words hit him hard, and a tear trickles down his face. With a gentle smile, she reaches out a hand to wipe his tears, tears streaming down her own face as she does so.

“I don’t know what kind of existence it was, but you are being loved now, truly,” she tells him, making him cry all over again. She clarifies that by “bad things,” she meant like stealing the king’s woman or something, and apologizes for bringing up treason.

He asks if she won’t make him pretty now, which is still what Eun-tak believes will happen when she pulls out the sword. She says “Yes” and he sighs in relief until she clarifies, “Yes, I won’t.”

The tone suddenly shifts to comedic as he wonders where the conversation went awry, and Eun-tak asks if he’s thought this way for nine hundred years and cries that she feels so sorry for him. He asks if she can’t try and be a little more consistent with her actions and words, ha.

Ignoring him, she says that she’s crying because she’s sad, but that he really should shape up and put in a little effort instead of feeling sorry for himself: “Don’t you think you’re not trying hard enough to become prettier?” Lolwut. She advises him that pity won’t get him very far, so he needs to take action if he wants her to pull out the sword.

She’s still crying, amazed that his life is actually more pitiful than hers, and mutters through her tears, “I’m going to punish them all!” She suddenly cuts the conversation short to go to work, and tells him to think carefully about what she wants from him.

Flustered and not following a thing she’s saying, he asks if she wants money and jewels and a house, and Eun-tak just turns to him dramatically and says, “Is that really what I’m asking for?” “Is it that—the thing I said I could do if needed?” he asks hesitantly. “What, love?” she asks. He nods, and she counters, “Why can’t you think to buy a house with money, and fill it with jewels and love?”

He shouts at her to go to work, and she reminds him that she’s already told him the answer before, but maybe he can’t remember because warriors have bad memories. He huffs at that.

Once he’s alone, Shin wonders how she can cry in empathy for his pain but not pull out the sword, and how her thoughts could lead to what he’s going to do for her in exchange. He remembers 29-year-old Eun-tak greeting her lunch date with a smile in his vision and suddenly throws a jealous tantrum that he died and she met someone new. Ha.

Sunny and Reaper’s double date begins with introductions, and Deok-hwa tells them that his occupation is “third generation chaebol heir,” which the girls don’t take seriously at all.

Reaper hems and haws and says he works in the service industry, and that he can’t give further details. Sunny asks if he has a name today, and Reaper beams proudly before announcing, “Yes. Kim Woo-bin.” Hahahaha. *cringing in embarrassment so hard*

Sunny’s friend guesses that with a name like that and a service job, he must be a waiter at a nightclub (club servers often take on celebrity pseudonyms). She asks Reaper for his business card, and he deflates, realizing that he is yet again without a thing he’s supposed to have.

But then the girls’ attention is diverted to Deok-hwa when a quick internet search proves that he really is a chaebol. Sunny is suddenly very complimentary and attentive to Deok-hwa, much to Reaper’s ire. He grows so angry that the room starts to go dark and black smoke swirls around him in a haze, and Deok-hwa looks over at him in warning.

Reaper blurts, “I’m going to leave early,” and Deok-hwa doesn’t mind being left with the women at all. But Reaper means for Deok-hwa to say it, and commands him with his reaper-mind-control powers. Hee! Deok-hwa immediately gets up and leaves, and he does the same to Sunny’s friend, and then makes Sunny forget what he just did.

Once they’re alone, Reaper gives Sunny the jade ring. She accepts it happily and asks for Deok-hwa’s number in exchange, which makes him frown, but she says that if Deok-hwa really is who he says he is, he’s her lord. Reaper balks, and Sunny clarifies, “He’s my building landlord.”

She says she has a lot to say to her landlord, so Reaper reluctantly takes out his phone to search for Deok-hwa’s number. He fumbles with the smartphone so Sunny offers to help, and Reaper jumps back when she reaches for his hand. She thinks he threw the phone at her rudely, but he covers it up with profuse gratitude.

Sunny asks for his passcode and when Reaper says he doesn’t have one, she muses that he sure doesn’t have a lot of things. Aw. She opens up his phone contacts, which consist of: Deok-hwa, Goblin, Goblin’s Bride, and Sunny Not Sun-hee. She laughs, assuming that Goblin is the name of a store, because she knows a rice cake shop named Goblin.

Reaper comes home to find Shin popping pills dejectedly, and asks if human medicine does anything for him. Shin says he’s choosing between pills and liquor, and Reaper chooses liquor, sighing over the fact that Sunny called him a strange person because he didn’t have a business card to give her.

Shin says unsympathetically, “You fooled her well. You’re not even a person.” Reaper scowls and asks if he’s manic or depressed today, and Shin just says he’s in pain. Thinking of all the mean things he’s said to Eun-tak, he says that all the words he’s spit out are returning to him, and that it must be the consequence of interfering in human life.

Shin sighs that he grew up badly and Reaper dryly pours salt in the wound: “All you did was grow tall.” Ignoring him, Shin says he ought to know better at his age than to say things he can’t take back, wondering if he deserves to die.

Reaper surprises him by saying that no one deserves to die. Shin looks over at him with hopeful eyes, and then Reaper adds, “Except for you.” Shin glares pitifully, and Reaper feels a little bad, saying that it was a joke.

Reaper asks if something happened with Eun-tak, calling her “Missing Person,” and Shin rambles that she cried and he cried and she felt sorry for him, but won’t pull out the sword and he doesn’t know why. Reaper: “Did you cry? In front of Missing Person?” He says it’s over now, insisting that women like prickly, indifferent men, not criers. Shin: “Is that why you cried when you first met [your girl]?” LOL. Reaper looks like someone kicked his puppy and Shin tells him to drink.

Reaper tells him to stick to either looking good or showing his weaknesses in front of Eun-tak, musing that he’s not Hamlet. Shin grows nostalgic and says, “Shakespeare, that guy. All I did was say, ‘To be or not to be,’ and he wrote that masterpiece.” Reaper literally spits out his drink.

When Reaper asks if he wants to go to the hospital to get checked out, Shin asks if it would do any good when the sword has begun to hurt him. Yikes. Reaper remembers Shin wondering the other night if god hadn’t overestimated what he could handle, and suddenly opens his arms wide. Figuring it’s an emergency, Reaper asks, “Would you like a hug?” Hahahaha. Yes, please!

Shin responds by summoning his goblin sword and wielding it menacingly. Reaper retreats instantly, and Shin swings his sword around like an overgrown child.

Sunny admires her jade ring and feels that it must really belong to her. Eun-tak is happy for her when she hears that the strange and handsome man gave her a ring, and Sunny says he’s still strange, but she forgets that every time she sees his face.

Eun-tak thinks the ring must be very old, and behind them, a ghost pops up from under a table to say that her boyfriend gave her a ring once. The three remaining ghosts in Eun-tak’s ghost-girl foursome show up to beg for her help, after hearing that she helped their gosiwon friend with her request.

Eun-tak tries to ignore them, but the ajumma ghost asks if she can’t get the winning lottery numbers from the goblin so they can split the winnings, and Eun-tak seems to like that idea.

She runs home and Shin rushes to sit down and act natural. Eun-tak pours on the sweet sugary act and compliments him, calling him an example just by being him. Once he’s buttered up, she asks for the winning lottery numbers, which he says he doesn’t know. But the second she says that lottery numbers would put her in a sword-pulling mood, he rattles them off to her.

Eun-tak shares the numbers with the ajumma ghost the next day, and Shin catches her in the act. She swears that this ajumma lived a good life and deserves this, and that she plans to tell the numbers to her son in a dream.

She runs off saying that she has to study, but beelines for a convenience store instead and tries to buy a lottery ticket. The cashier says that minors can’t buy lottery tickets, so Eun-tak returns in a change of clothes and makes a second and third attempt, to no avail. Um, why not go to a different convenience store?? She tries to convince the cashier that these are the winning numbers and offers to go halfsies if he buys the ticket for her, but he kicks her out.

Shin is there to catch her yet again, and she grumbles that he seems to know everything. He says that the ajumma ghost didn’t get a chance to tell her son the numbers either, and Eun-tak says he should’ve made it possible, because he’s a struggling farmer who had a bad year because it only rained in Seoul. She glares accusingly.

Shin says defensively that he’s not in charge of ALL the rain, and that there will be no lottery winner this week, which means the pot will double next week. He says that the farmers are hardworking, good people, and that they’ll dream a strange dream from a guardian god.

Eun-tak suddenly thinks he seems very cool. He wonders why she’s happy when she can’t buy a ticket next week anyway, and she points out that she’ll be twenty in two months and there’s a new lottery every week. She points finger guns at the goblin, who tells her not to act like they know each other in public.

Eun-tak turns around to see that he was right about the winning numbers, and in the store, the cashier sees that Eun-tak was right and falls out of his chair.

The ajumma ghost thanks Eun-tak when she hears the good news, and Eun-tak asks why the gosiwon ghost isn’t around anymore. The ajumma ghost says she moved on, pointing to the sky, and they both realize that the ajumma will be moving on too. She tells Eun-tak to live well with the goblin, and they smile warmly at each other.

At home, Eun-tak sits lost in thought for a while and asks Reaper if she’ll meet god if she dies. She says she plans to pick a fight: “Goblin-sshi is such a lonely guardian god. People don’t know that at the moment they’re becoming distant with the world, that someone is pushing them back towards it. But I know. So I’m going to pull out the sword. So that he’ll be prettier, and become a shining guardian god.”

Reaper is alarmed at that (aw, you DO care!) and he’s in such a hurry that he accidentally calls her Eun-tak, then corrects himself and calls her Missing Person. He argues that she could lose her usefulness and get kicked out, but she says that none of this is hers to begin with: “Life is just borrowing for a short while and staying for a short while. Hell isn’t just in hell,” she muses.

Eun-tak thinks of all the abuse she endured from Aunt and her family, and says that she’s been so happy every day that she’s spent in this house. She says with a huge smile that she wants to repay that kindness, which is why she’s going to pull out the sword.

She doesn’t know what it means exactly for the goblin to become prettier, but she figures that if Reaper Ajusshi is cheering her on to do it, it must be a good thing. Oh noes! Take it back! Tell herrrrrrr. Reaper just cringes, feeling a pang of guilt.

Reaper heads to work, where he watches a blind man crossing the street. He doesn’t notice (or cant’ see?) Samshin Granny passing behind him. She heads to the hospital where a little girl seems to see her true face, and she gives the little girl a wink.

Granny visits a little boy who’s suffering in pain, and she puts her hand on the boy’s forehead and says he’s suffered enough, so it’s time to stop hurting now. Hm, are you saving him, or is he going to die?

Reaper goes through a particularly grueling day of work, where one woman asks to be reborn as Kim Tae-hee in the next life (to which he hands her a ticket saying that she’s 92,414,945th in line, ha), and one couple gets into a fight because the man doesn’t want to be with his partner again in the next life.

The blind man just calmly goes toward the door to the afterlife as instructed, but he lights up when he hears a familiar bark at the door. His old seeing-eye dog Happy is there, and Reaper says that Happy has been waiting all day and will lead the way. Awww.

Reaper passes his usual pedestrian bridge on the way home and picks up a discarded business card on the ground. It’s an advertisement for a loan shark, but he notes the person’s title jealously.

He’s caught off-guard when Sunny approaches, and he’s so panicked that he throws his hat on and makes himself invisible. Sunny naturally thinks of him when she’s on the bridge, and complains out loud that the jerk isn’t answering his phone, and wonders what his deal is.

Reaper just watches her with a stricken expression and thinks, “I’m a grim reaper.” He thinks sadly that grim reapers must act on command, but Sunny interrupts his thoughts by suddenly announcing that she’s going to kill him because her pride has been wounded. She calls him right then and there, but ack, his phone rings out loud and she can hear it.

He doesn’t even notice at first because he’s so transfixed by the ring on her finger, and scrambles to shut his phone off. Sunny gets scared and looks around, accidentally slipping on an icy patch. Just as she’s about to fall, she stops, suspended in mid-air.

Cut to: Reaper crouching below her, holding her up on his back. Well that’s awkward. It terrifies her and Sunny goes running, leaving Reaper to watch her go with a long sigh.

Sunny runs into work and asks Eun-tak between heaving breaths if she believes in ghosts, and Eun-tak glances nervously at the two ghosts standing near the counter before saying that that would be absurd.

Sunny brushes off her strange encounter and remembers to tell Eun-tak not to come to work for the next few weeks, to focus on her college entrance exam. Best boss ever.

Shin sits at home contemplating what Eun-tak wants from him, and then recalls her saying that she’d like him to be happy while she was living there. He wonders if that’s what she wants, thinking it a tricky thing to do.

He waits outside the bookstore for her to pass by, and as she walks toward him with her head buried in notes, he thinks to himself, “Life walks to me. Death walks to me. As life, as death, you do not grow weary as you walk to me. Then all I have to say is this: I am not sad. It is done if I say this. It is done…”

She sees him and is a little touched that he watched her approaching for so long. She asks if he sees anything different in her now, remembering that he said he couldn’t see her twenties and thirties before. Shin lies that he still can’t.

He says that usually he can see a person’s fortune and misfortune, but with her he can’t. She figures that it’s because she’s a missing person, and prefers to think of it positively, that she gets to determine her own future.

She stills wishes she could know how she’ll be when she’s twenty and thirty, and Shin says, “You’ll grow up just like this—prettily.” She jokes that she can’t be pretty every day and probably has an ugly day or two. He counters that it could be an ugly month or two.

As they walk, she asks if he has particular rules for the people he becomes a guardian to, and he says no—he just chooses based on his mood day by day, and tends to help children more than adults. He explains that when he was at his most distant from the world, a child was the first person to reach out a hand to him. He flashes back to the moment the little boy who looked just like Deok-hwa asked to serve him back in Goryeo.

Eun-tak asks why he saved her mother when she was an adult, and he says that he was weak-hearted then because he’d had a drink, plus, the person her mother was asking him to save wasn’t herself.

Eun-tak is suddenly overcome with tears and says, “That you were the one who answered her cry to be saved—it just seems like such a miracle.” She cries happy, grateful tears and he stares at her for a long moment before raising a hand to pet her on the head.

She smiles and then says he’s not supposed to press her head like that, but caress the hair softly. She shows him by reaching up and petting him on the head, and he’s just lost in the moment for a while, looking into her eyes.

He comes out of the reverie and pulls away brusquely, saying that today must be one of her ugly days. Sigh. And you were doing so well!

She runs after him in a huff, but her mood lifts when they get home and she discovers that Shin put up a Christmas tree for her. She tells him that she was being selfish before because she thought he’d kick her out if she pulled out the sword, plus she thought maybe he’d become prettier and meet a prettier girl.

She stops to ask, “Aren’t you going to say you’re not?” Shin: “Do I have to?” Ha. She announces with a smile that she’ll make him pretty, because if he’s making the request, it can’t lead to a bad result. She asks where they should do it and he panics.

“Today? Right now?” he asks. She rolls up her sleeves right then and there, and Shin hurriedly pretends to answer a call while running out of the house.

He goes straight to Reaper’s tea room and asks for liquor before sharing the big news. Reaper asks if Eun-tak knows what pulling out the sword means, and Shin says no, adding that he’s worried because she likes him a lot.

Reaper doesn’t buy it, and Shin argues that Eun-tak asked him to marry her as soon as they met and said, “I love you,” putting him in a really awkward position. “She has no reason not to like me,” Shin points out.

Reaper counters that there are plenty of reasons, like their enormous age gap, and says the second she goes to college she’ll meet a gazillion young, good-looking boys. Shin: “What, that 900 years? So what?” Pfft.

Reaper tells him to stop shortening his age, saying that he’s 939, but Shin says he’s actually got an early birthday, so he’s really technically a year younger. HA. Both boys actually start laughing at that.

Shin says this is better than liquor and then says wistfully, “She’s the only one who can make me die, but she keeps making me live. It’s funny, isn’t it?” Reaper reminds him that he lived well before meeting her too, but Shin thinks it’s strange that he can’t seem to remember that.

He lies in bed that night remembering every time Eun-tak ran up to him calling him Ajusshi, and he says aloud, “Stop calling me. Stop calling me, Ji Eun-tak. Let me go.” She calls him for real outside his bedroom door, but he doesn’t answer.

She lingers in the hallway, and Shin leans against the door from inside his room.

Eun-tak gets a visit from Aunt’s loan shark gangsters after school, and though they start to harass her about Aunt’s debt, they don’t get very far before picking a fight with each other. Ha, because Reaper Jedi-mind-tricked them to fight till they die?

Grandpa’s secretary comes up and asks Eun-tak if she knows those loan sharks, and says offhandedly that he used to be one. He offers her a ride home and calls the police to report the loan sharks, who still bicker even at the police station and admit that they don’t know why they keep fighting.

On the drive home, Eun-tak launches into an awkward speech about how nice Deok-hwa oppa is and how responsible and frugal he is for a chaebol. Secretary Kim asks for an example, and she actually can’t come up with anything, and just apologizes. Secretary Kim is unruffled, though he cracks a little smile at her humming to fill the awkward silence.

Eun-tak is annoyed when Shin ignores her as she comes home and then again all throughout dinner, and asks Reaper about Shin’s mood as they sit and peel garlic. Reaper says Shin can’t remember the past, but says he doesn’t know anything beyond that. She doesn’t believe him, and he just threatens to call her name three times and she stops pestering him.

Reaper says these days, the dead follow when you say their name only once, and Eun-tak says it must be difficult work. He points out that missing persons are what make his job truly difficult, and Eun-tak sweetly offers to peel all the garlic herself. Reaper offers up, “The Goblin has an early birthday, so he’s actually a year younger than his age. That’s all I can tell you. Do well.” Pwahaha.

Eun-tak asks why Reaper found her at age 9 and then again at 19, and he offers up a little grim reaper secret, that people are most at risk at the time just before completion (meaning at ages ending in 9).

He stares at her intently and thinks to himself in voiceover, “At 29 you will also meet a grim reaper, even if it isn’t me. That is the fate of a missing person. There must be order in this life, and 9 is the closest incomplete number to 10, the complete number of the gods. With this too, do well.” To her, he just lies that he had a good dream the night before he found her. Gack, is she not going to live past 29?

Eun-tak finally corners Shin and asks why it seems like he’s mad at her. He says he isn’t mad but answers acerbically, “What are you? What are you, to call me so loudly? Why do you keep bewildering me? Why do you keep confusing me? You should have pulled out the sword when I asked. That is your worth.” Ouch.

Hurt and confused, Eun-tak says she agreed to pull out the sword, and he’s the one ignoring her. She says that she doesn’t have all the time in the world like an immortal, and that they should just get it over with today.

But he says, “Tomorrow, not today. The weather is too nice today. I’m going to go on a walk with you.” Tomorrow comes, and again he changes his mind and says tomorrow, not today, this time because the weather is too bad. The day after that he says, “Not today, tomorrow. Just one more day.”

Grandpa is heartbroken when Shin tells him his plans, and Shin thinks of his right-hand man in Goryeo who had served him faithfully and plunged the sword into his heart while crying, and of the queen who had died because of him.

He hands Grandpa the old scroll painting of the queen and asks him to burn it, saying how much he regrets not being able to find those he is still indebted to. Shin asks him to look after his young bride and make sure she will always eat well and learn well without him, and says this is his final request of Grandpa.

With tears in his eyes, Grandpa says respectfully that he will accept the command, and Shin takes both of Grandpa’s hands in his warmly. Augh, stop saying goodbye!

Next, Deok-hwa stares at his new credit card in disbelief, and Shin tells him to live freely, and that this is the prize he’s giving him. Deok-hwa says he didn’t do anything to deserve a prize.

Shin pets him on the head and says he grew up well, and Deok-hwa blurts, “I love you.” Ha. That makes Shin smile, and Deok-hwa just beams at his card, unaware of what it all means.

Then Shin tells someone in a grave tone that he left the deed to the house. He says that once he’s gone, the mark on Eun-tak’s neck will disappear. “Erase her memories, so that she doesn’t hate herself,” he asks.

Suddenly Reaper answers in a fuzzy voice over the phone, “What? Speak louder, I can’t hear you!” LOL. They’re on a video call, and Shin tries to get Reaper to put his headset on, but Reaper shouts, “It’s away from my ear now! I see your face!” Shin just hangs up on him.

Eun-tak contemplates Shin’s behavior the last few days and the things he’d said: “I like walking with you,” and “I like coming to get you.” Even now he sneaks up on her and says, “I like looking at you.”

She asks why he’s being so nice to her all of a sudden, and then asks for his hand. He holds it out to her, and she traces a hanja into his palm and asks what it means. He tells her it’s the character for “listen,” and she thanks him and says goodnight.

He stands there with his hand still outstretched, more affected by the moment than she realizes.

Eun-tak just runs to her room and writes down the meaning of the final hanja, ready to decipher what she has written down in her notebook. Oh, is this from Shin’s journal? Please say it is. She doesn’t get very far in translating it though, to her frustration.

Shin sits in his room for a long time just staring at the hand that Eun-tak held, and then brings gifts to her room. She opens them excitedly, and he tells her that it’s the 5 million she wished for, and things that she’ll need once she’s twenty and going out with her college boyfriend.

She asks why he’s giving her these things, and he just answers, “Today. The sword.” She agrees to pull the sword and then asks, “Is there love anywhere in these?” indicating his presents.

It takes him a while to answer, but he says “No,” and she says she was just asking.

They go through a door and end up in his buckwheat garden, and Eun-tak runs around and asks if the flowers he gave her were from here. She says she remembers their meaning, and he says again, “Lovers.”

She asks if this is a special place, and he calls it “My beginning and end.” He asks her to pull out the sword now, and Eun-tak pulls out a notebook first to say that she wrote a few things down that she wants him to agree to first. It’s a contract (we don’t get to see the whole thing), and at the very end it asks him to listen to her summons on the first day of snow each year, because she’ll be waiting.

Shin thinks back to a conversation he had with Reaper, when he said he was planning to die before the first day of snow. When Reaper asked why, he said, “Because I don’t want to ruin her first snow.”

Shin signs Eun-tak’s contract readily, and the moment he does, it begins to snow. Eun-tak looks around in amazement at the earliest first snow she’s ever seen, and realizes that he’s causing it. He says he’s sorry that it’s selfish, adding, “But I wanted to have a memory like this.” She says they should hurry up and make him pretty, and he agrees that it’s time.

Eun-tak asks for his final words, and Shin says, “The time that I spent with you was blindingly bright. Because the day was good, because the day was bad, because the day was just so. All the days were good. And whatever happens, it’s not your fault.”

She asks worriedly if he might actually turn into a broom, but he laughs and says that won’t happen. Reassured, she says she’ll pull it out now, and reaches for the sword, which materializes before her.

Shin closes his eyes…

But when she tries to close her hands around the sword, it vaporizes and she can’t grab it. She tries again and again, but it just keeps ghosting on her.

Shin asks if she’s using all her strength, but Eun-tak says she can see it… but she can’t touch it. His eyes go wide and he starts to say that she’s not the goblin’s bride, but she cuts him off to say that she’s more thrown than he is right now.

He demands to have the contract back so he can burn it, when she suddenly says, “I know what it is. It’s that, I know it. The prince in the fairytale, the prince with the curse! That!” “What?!” he asks. She grabs him by the collar and yanks him toward her. “A kiss,” she says, as she gets on her tiptoes and plants a kiss on his lips.

Shin’s eyes grow wide, and all the snow starts to fly up to the sky in reverse.

 
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Huh, is she not the bride? I’m still operating under the assumption that she’s being honest about seeing the sword, but it’s definitely curious that she can’t seem to touch it. At this point it would be worse if she weren’t the goblin’s bride—it would negate all the she-is-life-she-is-death angst, so she has to be. There must just be some other rule in play that they don’t know about. Maybe she’s onto something with the kiss, not the kiss itself, but the idea that true love is a factor. I’m hoping it’s something else though, because Shin mentioned regret about not repaying his debts before dying. The ghosts linger in this life because of their unresolved grudges, so I would think that the goblin is no different. Maybe seeking out the innocents who were brought to death because of him, or even taking revenge on the king will resolve the century-old grudge lodged in his heart. Maybe he has to make the sword materialize before the bride can take it out?

This episode felt really long today, mostly because Shin and Eun-tak kept changing their minds about the sword-pulling, and I’m a little weary of the back and forth on that. I mean, I obviously don’t want the goblin to die! I just don’t know why that conversation had to happen about a hundred times over the last four episodes, because if it repeats enough times, you have us wondering why he doesn’t just live or die already.

I think Goblin’s reason for wanting to live is actually clearer at this point than his reason for dying, so I felt like the back and forth actually made it seem obvious that he wanted to live and made his subsequent decision to die a little like just giving up. I thought there should’ve been a bigger change in him when Eun-tak made him cry with the big emotional declaration today, that he couldn’t be that bad a person because her existence alone is proof that this life is no punishment. It made me cry, it was so beautiful, and I finally felt like I got an emotional connection between them that wasn’t just based on a pretty moment on a pretty day. In this conversation she becomes his hope and a sign that even he deserves life—because why give him a bride if he deserves eternal suffering? I just found it sad and frustrating that he reverted to choosing death anyway when there’s her way of interpreting the whole goblin-bride relationship.

Now that we know a little something about Eun-tak being more vulnerable to reapers in her plus-nine years, I wonder what it has to do with Shin’s first vision of her future at 29. We don’t know yet why he got to see a glimpse of her in that moment, but based on what we learned from Reaper today, I don’t think the reason is a happy one. I’m sure that Reaper has his rules about not sharing his trade secrets or interfering in matters of life and death, but in any case, it’s sweet that he wishes her well even at 29. I find his growing friendship with Eun-tak adorable, since they’re the normal ones who have to deal with he moody goblin roommate and have bonded over it. Reaper is just adorable with everyone, really, and I hope for the comedy’s sake that he stays as bumbling in his romance with Sunny as he has been.

At least we got the big sword-pulling question out of the way for now, seeing as how she can’t, and they can stop arguing about whether she will. I just don’t even want to hear about that anymore until she’s better informed and understands the consequences of sword-pulling, because it seems unfair to put something like life and death in her hands and not tell her about it. We did get some good character stuff as Shin was wrapping up his affairs, even though we obviously knew he wasn’t really going to die—he can’t, with ten episodes left to go—but I enjoyed his goodbyes to everyone. Plus, we even got to see Reaper start to grow fond of Goblin and be sad that he’s going to die! I was pretty touched at that, though I wished he’d go the extra step and tell Eun-tak the truth about the sword. I mean, you’ll never get your Reaper-Goblin hug if Shin climbs those eternal stairs!

 
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Been waiting for the recap. Thanks, girlfriday! *now off to read*

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Best scene today is when Shin and Eun-tak patted each other's head. I love it. And when the reaper saved Sunny from falling? It's hilarious. LOL.

I think the rule is for Shin and Eun-tak to be truly in love with each other first, before she can pull out the sword. Maybe it's part of the punishment for Goblin, to end his eternal life by separating from his one true love? Shin is totally falling for her now, he's conflicted choosing between life or death. But Eun-tak is still far from loving him. That's why she couldn't grab the sword. She still hasn't really become the Goblin's Bride.

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I think that first dokkaebi should experience life with her and so they fall in love and when that happens, that would probably the time that Eun-Tak would be able to draw the sword out :O

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Eun Tak can't touch Goblin's sword yet because she's still a minor. Forgive me Lord.

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Lesson learned. Don't read comments at 3am. You might find ones like this. ??.

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It should be after 12 am. Cause I read it at 1.18 am n I know how it felt. Totally, lesson learned....

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Based on your name. I have a nagging feeling that you're from the Philippines. Lol.

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GAHAHA them innuendos. Ye Gods will not allow an immoral love happen.

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Does "sword" in korean mean the same thing as in english? I'm curious if it was on purpose, or a freudian slip.. or if it's just english speakers thinking it? LOL

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Only KES herself can answer that.

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Omagash!!!! I'm crying with this comment! Best.One.Ever.

I'll just roll around laughing for a few more hours....pwahaha..!

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I'm slow, forgive me lord. Please tell me girls what's the joke.

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I’m slow, forgive me lord. Please tell me girls what’s the joke.

"Sword" can be a sly reference to a penis. So, no touching the adult man's sword, miss high schooler!

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a very pointed comment haha!

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I think she needs to actually MARRY him to be the true bride...just my two cents!

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bwahahahahahahahahahaha
that was awesome

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or is it because of her age? I don't know much but being twenty is a big thing in Korean culture, right?

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It's the time one becomes an adult and that's why Shin gave her the perfume,mostly one gives perfume to young women who become 20...She becomes now a women,feminine...

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That's what I've been thinking too. However, I wish that the plot would involve something deeper and unexpected? KES already did something similar in Secret Garden with the whole true love and committing a great sacrifice, in order to make everything right again.

Though the Goblin and his bride is the main plotline, I find myself more interested and curious with the huge price that the Grim Reaper and Sunny have to pay in connection with the ring. Is it just a rehashing of the angst of their doomed past love? Or will it involve the Grim Reaper remembering his past sins, which leads to him sacrificing himself to allow Eun Tak to live as he feels that he has to do that to atone for unjustly killing Kim Shin's family/friends back then.

Watching this drama reminded me of Arang and the Magistrate with the whole grim reaper, missing soul running away from him, reincarnations, past connections that run deeper than what we know. I completely forgot what happened in the end though and I'm so gonna rewatch it while waiting for new Goblin episodes. In the delusional hopes that it'll shed some light on how Goblin may end. HAH.

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I guess we were right from the beginning. That just seeing the sword is one thing but having to pull it requires another (love maybe).

I think they both have to give something for it to happen. The sword seems to represent all the burden that he has been carrying for years. His resentments, grudges, hatred and sought for revenge.
Obviously it's very much related to his past life and that's why the people around him are reincarnations from his past. He is being given another chance to make things right (forgive and be forgiven) before he can be at peace.

I hope there is more to Eun-tak's part than just loving him unconditionally. Her existence was the answer to his prayer (thank you granny).
(Don't troll me here Kim Eun-sook, give me more).

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@Kiara - "Her existence was the answer to his prayer."

And he was the answer to her mom's prayer for her. She asked if someone would save her baby and goblin did. Nice poetic symmetry between them.

And he is living when he should be dead, and so is she.

And him saving her life is a reversal of how he got cursed, i.e. taking life.

Love this story.

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That is so true. He saved her and in return she will save him.

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I think you're right about both of them having to truly love each other in order for her to pull out the sword, which is oh so cruel. ???

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I have been thinking that ever since Sunny touched the jade ring that perhaps she is the goblin's bride; especially when the granny said they both would pay a heavy price for it in the end. I also think the grim reaper was someone from the goblin's past, perhaps the king. There has to be an antagonist which makes me think it's the magical granny. Has anyone figured out who she may be and what is her purpose?

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I think Magical Granny is a Fate. she always wears red, she is manipulating some things. I think that the red scarf is important too, as Eun-Tak is always wearing it. She controls Goblin- she is his fate.

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Also, Eun-Tak's mom told her to wear her scarf to go see Magical Granny.

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Good catch Jen! I think you're right about the scarf. She has had it for a long time. Why would her mother remind her about the scarf? Hmmm. you got me thinking :-)

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I thought of another theory. You know how Eun Tak inexplicably can see and interact with ghosts? How she thinks it's connected with being the Goblin's bride?

I think it is because she is the Goblin's bride. And now we see progressions in this part of Eun Tak's character and what makes her so special. It seems that she's also a vessel for those wandering souls who cannot move on because they haven't resolved their deepest sorrow yet (words from the ajhumma ghost). And once she helped them, they were able to to meet the reaper and move on.

So what if the reason why she can't pull out Goblin's sword yet is because Kim Shin haven't resolved his deepest sorrow yet? Which explains his strange relationship and destiny to meet Grim Reaper if the theories about GR being the adult king that Goblin never saw.

So in essence, his bride is not only created to pull out the sword. His bride is created to be his salvation. To resolve all his unfinished business and end his millennia of bitterness and sadness.

That is why she is life and she is death.

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Oooo I like this theory.

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Oh, I agree with this theory

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Double ooooo - I like this, too!

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I like this theory as well. I think your right! Thanks for sharing the connection you made between her being a bridge for ghosts to move forward. I was beginning to think she wasn't the goblins bride. Now I'm wondering if the people he needs to settle his debt with are already with him; meaning the grim reaper and Sunny. Is it possible their the reincarnated king and the woman he loved. I can't wait for the next episode to see what they come up with about why she can't pull the sword out.

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Group hug everyone!
Friday can't come any faster for us. Hahaha

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Hahaha btw tomorrow is Friday..

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I thought because she ( the goblin bride ) isn't wearing a ring from the lady who is death in 1st episode.

I don't know, but my sense is tingling to the ring. it's the thing that goblin bride need, to pull out the sword from his chest.

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I shared a similar theory too. Nice to know other people are also suspicious about that ring. I can't quite wipe off the images of that ring.... Hmmm.... Why is that??

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She's definitely the Bride. Because she can see the blade. My guesses are

1) She should know the whole story and be "willing to do it". A sort of sacrifice. It's not an easy task. You're killing somebody. So she has to know.

2) That she should be an actual bride. They should be in love to each other. But that's painful. I know.

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Well, I think that's the rule too. That's why ET keep trying to understand the chinese worlds. She has to know the impact first before deciding to pull out the sword.

And the actual punishment for goblin is: they need to love each other first. And he has to end his life in the middle of happiest moment of his life.. Sad..

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Now that's truly a punishment. Having finally found someone worth living for and finding the beauty and purpose in living and appreciating life only to be taken away at that moment.

The moment that Shin and Euntak shared when both got teary is wonderful. It was a spot on delivery both from GY and KGE. And when it turned to a comedic moment I was like "dammit KES!" lol

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Ditto!!!
Im also real scared that I'm so attached with the characters already omg! Haha. We better have to get through all of this! Hahaha. Thanks for the recap!!

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But like he said isn't 900 years punishment enough ... I legit cried when he said those lines ... And then they turned it into comedy .... Loved it . best scene of the episode .

Though I wish tvn would decide on one length of the show .. Sometimes is 1 hr, 1.30, 1.20 etc ... All of varying times .. What is happening ????

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And don't forget that scene when Shin was saying goodbye to Grim Reaper...

Grim Reaper really ruined the mood there. LOL.

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Me too! I also don't like the varying running time. And I do think an hour is enough for each episode.

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I'm in the 1h 30min camp! I love watching al the characters so much that I wouldn't really mind if they just put a lot of fluff into each episode haha. By that, I mean cohabiting hijinks. Just not the "Will she?" or "Will she not?" flip-flopping about the sword-pulling and goblin bride.

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I could watch 1:30 of this show per episode. Fill extra time with the goblin and reaper coming to grips with the 21st century! I love that!

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Me three. I don't mind 1.30, I can watch it all the day.

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the "meandering" pace is the reason why I love the drama actually. I love that I don't have to feel rushed, and can just relax while watching the drama, and still feel. I love the feeling of having time to savor the feeling of the moment, be it beautiful scenery, laughter, pain, shock. Personally, it's relaxing but with strong emotions. I love it.

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I'm bearing a 'more the merrier' wish regarding goblin.

Tbh I think I can even enjoy a one hour long episode featuring nothing but Gong Yoo's visuals and perfectly pronounced English at this point. Nothing will go unappreciated ?

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I can't agree more about ET not able to pull the sword yet, but at the same time I wonder if he will need the forgiveness from the Queen (Sunny) forgive the King (Reaper) and the love from ET.

[SPOILERS REMOVED]

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The queen was the one who told him to defy the king's order. I don't think he did anything wrong to her that needs her forgiveness.

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Agree on this one! As he was just waiting to end his life it does not really seem like a punishment...ok, he witnessed friends passing while he immortal but I think that is a punishment he could handle. This is more difficult...he needs to love his life with her, be happy, wish to have a future with her...only then it would turn into a real punishment, having to loose it all.

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I don't know about what Kim Shin can endure, but I can tell you about my personal experience. I lost my young stepbrother when he was 13 due to a rare illness (affected his development). It was one of the most painful thing I've endured. I've also cracked two ribs and my left femur during a ski trip, and I can say with absolute certainty I'd rather crack my legs and ribs every week rather than experience that kind of emotional pain once more. I've become much more subdued due to the experience. I used to go out a lot more than I do now.
I'm sometimes relieved from the memories, but the pain never goes away. You don't forget it, you can just be distracted by it. One of the reason I watch dramas. It's been almost 4 years now, but when the memories come back, the pain still feels fresh.
When my parents divorced, I felt so lonely and was ready to go into myself. My life with my step-family was as I expected it to be. More lonely. One thing that was unexpected was... I didn't expect to love my step-brother but I couldn't help it, you know? He was the one who made me feel less lonely, even more so than my mother. We had 6 years difference in age, but we connected. I could relate a bit to the story in Legend because I knew what Lee Minho felt. I was a bit less neglected than his character, and had a good brother, but I still felt so lonely. His death, even though I knew was coming months in advance, still hurt me so much. So much.

Given my experience, I don't think Goblin could ever get used to death. Especially since he spent much more time with the Yoo's than I ever did with my brother. I only saw him for a few years.

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thank you for sharing your story. it shouldn't have been easy.

I lost an uncle a couple years ago. I wasn't close to him, but it was still a bit traumatizing. It made me realize for the first time that I would have to experience this again, one day in the future, but with my parents, and perhaps even my siblings. I never had that morbid thought before. Now, that I know, it makes me dread it so much. I almost wish I didn't have to, but that means I would die before them, and my poor father would definitely literally let himself die of grief if that happened. Sigh. Deep sigh.

Experiencing death of someone you love definitely changes your whole perspective. It's cheesy to say this, but my uncle's death changed me too.

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*hugs* thanks for sharing Nana.

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Especially since he spent much more time with the Yoo’s

U've struck the crucial point. As we've seen with Deokhwa, the chaebol family's purpose seems less about serving, and more about giving companionship. Kim Shin probably views like a hybrid children and brothers, or at least friends. He saw Deokhwa grow up, and Deokhwa is constantly hanging around him, with his home-shopping (lmao), and everything. They're the only humans he has interacted in a meaningful way for a sustained amount of time for 900 years. Probably why his social skills need some serious polish. Pffft.

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*Hugs* Fighting Nana!

Love how the show deals with life and death with humor. As much as I want to treat it as just another drama something kind of hit home and relatable.

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Thanks for sharing and sorry for your loss.
I did not want to downplay that part of his punishment. It is for sure hard to see family and friends leave this life and leave you behind. What I wanted to say in my previous post is that Shin comes from a time and place where death was something people were facing daily as he was a warrior. He probably saw countless of his soldiers fall in battle...that is why I think that is a punishment he can somehow handle better as it was something he was already used to, somehow.

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Sorry about your step-brother Nana.

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@Nana : thank you for sharing your story and sorry for you loss.

@tesshan : I know Shin was a warrior back in Goryeo, death is something he constantly had to face when he's in battlefield. But the real part of his punishment over those 900 years is the memory part. He is unable to forget one single death. Just keeping every memories to walk the earth for eternity, I couldn't think of a punishment harder than this. It's like living in the 18th level of hell (based on Chinese mytholog)

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They should be in love to each other. But that's painful. I know.

That's why it's called as punishment, right? Because it's painful. ?

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Yeah... there's a reason why it's called Goblin's Bride... not "The Sword Puller" or "Goblin's Killer" or something like that, right?

They have to fall in love first to make it more painful for Goblin.

Gah... Their God sure is really cruel.

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Good point, that's why it's called "Bride" instead "Killer" or something. Lol.

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Or maybe it's Shin's regrets and newfound longing to live that makes the sword ghost out on her?

While I enjoyed where we got to eventually with the sword pulling, it felt pretty meandering and the progression of events didn't make much logical sense now that I'm thinking about it. As much as I like this show, I've started noticing loopholes and watered down arcs, and I hope the story tightens up because we're still only at the beginning.

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This: the first line of your comment. It's what I believe is the case. The sword-as-immortal-life became a punishment because Shin was tired of living so uneventfully. But now that he no longer wants to leave, really, the sword is re-turning as a reward. His decision to leave is no different than any other decision--some of them are made and carried out accompanied by profound regrets. So if his heart tells us he's not ready to go, the sword better not make his departure possible! (I guess we'll find out if our speculations are correct should the sword cause him pain in the coming weeks. *praying to ALL the gods*)

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I think so too and like girlfriday I think that Goblin has things that remain unresolved before leaving or be allowed to live a human life, which are taking the forms of the Grim Reaper and Sunny. I do not think that the Grim Reaper appared at the same time as the Goblin's bride for not.

ANd I think there is also something about the Goblin loving enough to sacrifice ( not his life, since it is supposed to be a reward) in the modern time to redeem for his selfish and prideful actions that sealed the life of people who loved him.

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"I think so too and like girlfriday I think that Goblin has things that remain unresolved before leaving or be allowed to live a human life, which are taking the forms of the Grim Reaper and Sunny."

That's one of my theory too. That maybe he needs to straighten things out with the reincarnations of King and Queen.

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Perhaps he needs to forgive and be at peace with himself before he can be released from immortality. I foresee angst coming up against Reaper. My heart won't be able to take it.

I think grandma is the Almighty.

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Juliesean, I agree with you!

I, too, am thinking the removal of the sword is actually in his hands. His bride is there to lead him to forgive himself and lose the self pity. Once he sees the sword as a blessing rather than a curse, his immortality will be ended.

I also think Grandma is God.

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I agree with you. My theory is that Goblin's sword is a figure of speech which symbolizes the anger, remorse, revenge and what-not that he feels from the time he was betrayed by his king. His bride will help him remove his "sword" and thereby free him from the curse of immortality full of sadness and will let him live a mortal life.

I fervently hope that I am right because I desperately want Goblin to have a happy life. He deserves it after being betrayed and living 939 years in misery.

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I have no idea why Shin thinks she can pull the sword out just because ghosts call her the bride. She's not a bride, in any sense of the word, and particularly not in a 900-year-old sense of the word (not that I'm expecting them to have to have sex before she can pull the sword, but context!).

If they get married on paper or in the more old-school sense, then she might be able to do something about the sword. She's ahead of the curve in at least thinking that there could be a conditional element like a kiss.

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Shin doesn't think ET can pull the sword because ghosts call her the bride. Shin thinks that whoever can see the sword is his bride and can pull it because she can see it. I believe even the Grim Reaper can't see the sword stuck on his chest. Only the Goblin and his bride can see it.

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She can also summon him, and follow him through doors. Nobody else could.

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Yes, it begs the question, "What makes a bride a bride?"

Is it love?
Is it sex?
Is it a marriage certificate?
Is it fate? Destiny?
All of the above?

Hmmm...lots to ponder.

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That's true too. I thought that it's unfair for her to undo a curse that she doesn't fully understand the outcome. It has to be something that she is fully aware of and wants to do with her heart and all.

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Maybe she has to be the bride...meaning they have to get married...the dress, the ceremony, all that and then...the sword!

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I think she should be an actual bride. And that she should fully know what she is doing by pulling that thing out.

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This was my thought, too. The truest act of love would be for Eun-tak to pull out the sword fully understanding the actual repercussions of it, giving the goblin she loves the death he wants--or doesn't want (not sure which direction the show is taking). I think Shin himself is undecided too.

Right now, Eun-tak is under the impression that pulling out the sword is for some sort of aesthetic purpose, and I highly doubt the high deity or deities would allow that to slide. Cheating is not allowed in the universe ;D

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This episode was sad. It was SUPOSSED to be sad and I was ready to be sad.... My heart aches for you dear goblin... I almost cried when you were saying your goodbyes but then someone had the nerve to ruin the moment by forgetting to bring his earphones to video cam.

How dare you made me laugh when I was ready to bawl my eyes out, you Kim Woo Bin impostor! Also Mr. Goblin, why are you asking love advice from the Grim Reaper of all people?? He's more pathetic than you!

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That's the thing about Kim Eun-sook writernim. She doesn't like letting her viewers wallowing in angst for too long.

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I laughed so hard when he burst out Kim woo bin ??
And then he goes and gives love advice LOL

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I'd love to know KWB's reaction to sharing a name with the Grim Reaper! This show is a great mix of melancholy, and crazy funny. :)

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I can imagine how embarassing it will be for him when he comes back alivee after all those goodbyes! ? Goodluck trying to get the house deed back from Reaper. Haha

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Lol... U're right. I can't wait next episode.

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Which was a good thing the Reaper didn't actually hear about the house deed being bequeathed to him. lol.

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But Shin also put the house deed in Reaper desk, so now, I doubt that Reaper would give it back LoL

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OMG! you're right !they are gonna have a big fight about house deed!

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IKR!

I'll have to say I was pleasantly surprised by the humour cutting through several of the really emotional scenes. It kinda left my heart both breaking and re-healing :P

Can only imagine it wouldn't be easy to pull off as writer or actor.

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It like they send me to a roller-coaster of emotions, right?

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Among Eun-Tak's suggestion of 3 Bins (Hyun Bin, Won Bin, Kim Woo-Bin), reaper chose Kim Woo-Bin because he wants to be in the same kin with Kim Shin?

or it is just simply the kim woo-bin promotion from KES because he is one of her former casts?

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For me, it didn't matter which Bin the reaper choose because it will still be funny no matter which name.

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"He instantly flashes back to the Goryeo battlefront, and then to the moment his king betrayed him. We flash for a moment to Reaper and Sunny, and then return to Shin."

What is the reason behind the flashback of reaper and sunny????

TeamDB! You are all awesome!

Mzpakipot

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I think that's an error in editing? I can't see the connection. lol.

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No way, the deliberation the goes into this drama would never allow that. My guess is that everyone's theories have been right and the Reaper and Sunny are actually the reincarnations of the king and queen.

You have to have committed a grave sin in order to become a reaper right? The king's sins in cutting down Shin and killing Shin's family (Shin's sister, his own wife, included), would definitely qualify. Plus that Jade ring. And the weird supernatural Grandma's ominous words about how they'd pay for the rings later on.

It all adds up to impending sadness and gloom when the truth comes to light. I would even go so far as to say that that split-second edit confirmed this theory but we won't know until it's confirmed.

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I agree that Grim and Sunny is reincarnation of King and Queen. But the flow of that sequence is a bit off to me. I even replayed those scenes but it looked like an editing mistake to me.

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Yeah... that editing (particularly the extra focus on the king's face and then Sunny's face) almost made it seem like Sunny was the king. But that can't be right... can it?

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Definitely a weird editing choice. Or (an ironic indirect) fourth wall break in the odd choice to confirm viewer suspicions. But their hints so far with Reaper/Sunny, ala King/Queen, were pretty heavy-handed. So it's rather unnecessary.

On a separate style point, I do think the show is pretty poor at dialogue and pacing. The OTP at least showed some though not great chemistry in E6. Honestly I get why KES gets some flak. Though she plays the ratings game well, she tries really hard for her characters to come off a certain way in the story, making the story ring odd and false at times. Instead of having really strong characterizations that drive the narrative.

I'm likely going to fall in the camp of either dropping or fast-forwarding my watch. I've become LDW's fan and he's pulling GR in such a nuanced yet fun way. They really need to up the ante soon with his storyline - the secondary leads are really getting sidelined.

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@anya same here. I'm about to fastforward all main couple moments, they're making overall story so typical and poor. I never was fan of Lee Dong Wook, but he manages to steal the show and catches attention even when he's silent third wheel in main couple's scenes. I do like all leaders, but they should do something with secondary leads screen time. Even Deok Hwa is more entertaining to watch and to find out about him then endless same scenes of leading couple. As well I want to see Grandma story.

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Mentioned this in last week episodes: when the reaper saw the ring he started crying. When queen died she shed tears.
The reapers personality fits more in line with the queen . Sunny is strong and forward more like the king.
This is my guess the show keeps throwing out these hints in each episode. The writer has used gender swap before.

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I noticed the flashback too! I agree that the scene made me more determined that Reaper & Sunny are reincarnations of the King & Queen.

But... I noticed some time in one of the earlier eps, someone mentioned that the Reaper was 300+ years old (am I right about this?).

If so, wouldn't that put him waaaay off the timeline from the Goblin, who is 900 yo... I mean 939, no, 938 yo XD

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The Reaper didn't say he's only been a Reaper for 300 years. He said he's been collecting the families funeral offerings for 300 years. Maybe prior to 300 years ago, offerings didn't involve money and were only food and incense.

As for who was the King and who was the Queen, we keep getting mixed signals. When the Reaper was doing his administrative paperwork, he signed his name "Reaper Kim." Kim is Shin's family name (hence, his sister, the Queen, would have been a Kim as well). But the promotional materials/cast descriptions identify the Reaper as "Wang Yeo." Wang is the Korean word for King.

Naming conventions aside, I still think the clues dropped so far point more definitely to Sunny being the reincarnation of the King and Reap being the reincarnation of the Queen.

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but then YeoWang means queen. lol. it could go either scenario...

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@Leenie: it hink reaper signed as Reaper Kim because Kim is a very common name in Korea, like John Doe.

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I agree that Reaper and Sunny appear to be reincarnations of the King and Queen. Sunny is an interesting character. When we first see her, she's just a girl who is bored with life. But the depth of her ennui goes far beyond simple boredom. It could believably be the result of waiting lifetimes for some resolution or justification of her unfair death. I want to see where her character arc goes.

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My take is Sunny is the queen. In the press conference, Yoo Inna did talk a bit more about her character, and described Sunny as having a direct/straightforward and strong personality. Plus the various clues (Sunny feeling like the jade ring belonged to her) and character name of "Kim Sun".

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nah, not an error, they meant to do that, it was just weird and random and thus, felt extremely out of place. we all know what they were getting at, but it was so random it felt forced and pushy. haha, cue eun tak's catchphrase to shin: "y'know what i mean, right?" like the show's nudging and winking at us abt one of the main theories in the show.

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I think so too. If I correctly remember, in the beginning of one of the episodes there was a character/actor introduction where an image of the dying queen preceeded Sunny's image. That may be a clue that Sunny is the queen.

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The king and queen are definitely sunny and the reaper. Only thing is after the goblins flash back they go from the kings eyes to sunny face ALSO she exudes the kings tendancies "my pride is hurt,should I kill him?" The kings pride was hurt too and we know how that ended...just saying.

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I also wondered about that. Is it because they are the reincarnations of the king and the queen and Shin knows somehow?

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"What is the reason behind the flashback of reaper and sunny????"

Oh... I'm pretty sure, NONE of us has any idea...

LOL

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Was wondering the same. I mean it is obvious those 2 are the reincarnations of the king and the queen...maybe the scene was there for all the people that did not catch that yet...

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I'm also guessing Sunny is the king. The expression on Sunny's face and the king's face was the same.. But Grim Reaper ?? I'm not conviced that he is the queen

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someone ever says that maybe the king is sunny and the grim reaper is the eunuch.. so that's way the granny told us that both of them will pay the heavy price.. confusing it's true.
we just have to wait more episodes to know the truth

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But what's with the ring though. Plus the Grim Reaper said he's memorised by Sunny's smile... Did the Eunuch love the King and was jealous of the Queen? Hence he plotted to destroy the Queen and anyone associated with her which leads us to this present day drama angst. Though if that were the case, it'd be a really juicy plot. I'd watch that.

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The reaper's name is Wang Yeo. Only the kings of Goryeo carries the Wang name. I don't see why the writer would make it more complicated than that.

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I meant that the Wang clan ruled Goryeo from beginning to end.

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Ah, the Goryeo Wangs and their massively inbred lineage. Gotta love 'em!

Though if we're going by historical timeline, Munjong was ruling when Shin died in 1082 and he himself died at the age of 64 in 1083. So not exactly the flower boy teenager we saw in the Goryeo snippets heh, which is why I'm glad they're going with a fictional king for this one haha. They get to play around with their version of history with so much more leeway and not end up like the weirdness that MLSHR was sigh.

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I am so glad too that they are going fictional with the Goryeo part of the story especially when it's not a full sageuk.

Did you notice the Goguryeo flag at the entrance to the king's palace? I wonder why they were not using the Goryeo flag instead.
Maybe they borrowed the wrong flag from KBS? lol

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No I didn't! But hey at least they made the scenes epic enough, which is more than enough to me. No storming of the palace with fifty men is good enough in my book hahaha.

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Yes it was pretty epic! I almost entertain the thought of Gong Yoo in a sageuk.

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I mentioned this a little earlier, but the comment fits better here, so forgive me for repeating myself...

The promotional material identifies the Reaper as Wang Yeo, however when he was doing his Reaper accounting paperwork he signed the forms as "Reaper Kim" (Kim being Shin's family name, and therefore his sister's family name as well).

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There is more questions when it comes to the reaper as reincarnation of the queen than answers.

The reaper said before that he doesn't know his real name. He obviously does not remember. He is also wearing a crown brooch on his black jacket.
Why would the queen become a reaper? What did she do to deserve such a punishment?

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IIRC, in a previous episode it was stated that a lot of/all reapers just use reaper Kim, as like a common name to sign off with. they don't use their real names. hope that helps (:

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Here's my issue with the theory, You become a grim reaper if you've sinned a lot. What possible sin did the Queen commit that she is being punished so severely??

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Sunny is not a reaper. She is reincarnated as a human because she wasn't evil.

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That's my take. Doesn't mean I'm right.

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What I meant is, Sunny can't be the king. Because the king has committed more sins compared to the queen. He ordered his general to kill his enemies and later killed is general and his wife out of his own jealousy. So, it makes sense if he is punished as a Grim Reaper in his after life.
It also makes sense that Sunny is the queen as her name is if I am right Kim Sunny, right?? What if she is descendant way down the line of the Kim family and an incarnation of the Queen.

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There is always a possibility but I'm with you here.

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If Sunny is the king, then what is it that she's waiting for? I mean she mentioned it a few times in some episodes that it seems like she's been waiting for something all through her life but she really can't figure out what it is she's been waiting for.

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I don't think Sunny is the king. Apart from reasons cited by other beanies, I believe the drama/PD/writer would not dare to present us with a gender-changed reincarnation. That would add a whole new level of complexity. MOst importantly, the idea might not be well received by the audiences, especially in an Asian country like South Korea.

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I can't believe a 1-minute side story of a long-dead dog waiting for his blind human in the afterlife made me cry more than the whole episode of Goblin dealing with his impending death. Had to compose myself for a minute there, Happy. Good dog.

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same omg, i burst into tears at the dog side story, but completely tuned out when goblin was saying his last words to eun-tak.

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That dog scene had me ugly cry up a tornado

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same here.

similar to how I felt with Scarlet Heart, I want to massively edit some of the screenwriting for Goblin, though with SH I wish I was in the production editing room. lol

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Tear for dog galore

-and I'm not a crier
-nor am I a animal person in particular.

-It's kind of interesting than that the man's blindness remained after he crossed over. I'm use to the idea of infirmities disappearing in the afterlife.

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Yes, I thought that was interesting too. I was surprised by it, but I liked it for some reason. Happy was the happiness he needed, more than sight! <3 <3 <3

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Me too. That scene and the one where one of the ghost's mum visited her room for one las time and opened the fridge. It's quite funny how we are able to connect with the extremely short scenes with characters we haven't even gotten enough time to form an attachment with. Given the emotions and circumstances are realistic and relatable. I'm trying but I just can't connect with the Goblin and his bride's angst. I understand the reasoning behind their angst, loneliness and longing but I just can't feel or connect with those characters and their feelings.

I wanted to be into the Goblin's last words to Eun Tak but I was just screaming at my screen for Eun Tak to just finally. pull. the. freaking. sword. out.

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I think it depends on your experience, definitely. I have less memories of my mother taking care of me, so I watched the fridge scene with sympathy, but also with envy. And I couldn't empathize with it much. However, I know the feeling of loneliness very very well. Too well. It makes me relate with Euntak as I have with no other characters (and to a lesser degree, but still a great one). In some scenes, I don't even need the next line, or to see her expression to know exactly how she feels, and why she reacts in the scene the way she does. It's uncanny.