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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

How was everyone’s week in dramaland? I fully intended to watch more of the new shows this week, but real life got in the way, darn it all. Tell us how the new dramas stacked up against the rest, and what I should add to my watchlist that can’t be missed! –girlfriday

 

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Strong Woman Do Bong-soon: Going into this drama, I thought Ji-soo was great casting because of his history of playing the backup dude you feel for, but I only have eyes for Park Hyung-shik in this one. Things are getting swoony, and I love it.

Father, I’ll Take Care of You: I like that the brothers’ storyline has taken center stage, and that it’s an uphill battle for them to figure out what their relationships should be. Also, it gives us less time with the screechy Mom/grandma/sister characters; I was so aggravated when they berated Hyun-woo for daring to yell at an elder when that elder was responsible for his father’s death. I’m telling myself it’ll be extra satisfying when they finally get the whole story, but until now I’m doing my best to tune them out.

Father Is Strange: So far this tone is really working for me: This show isn’t without its annoying characters, but for the most part everyone in the main cast is sympathetic and interesting, and their interactions are good-natured. I’m assuming Lee Joon’s birth secret has to be a misunderstanding, but for now I’m curious to see how he fits into the bustling clan. GIven how lonely he seems, it can only be good for him, right?

Three Color Fantasy: Queen of the Ring: I feel like this drama was trying to be progressive and open-minded about beauty standards, but it made such a point of saying that he thought Kim Seul-gi seemed pretty to him because he liked her, and not that she was actually beautiful in her own way. This show treated beauty like a hard-and-fast rule, as though Kim Seul-gi would never be seen as attractive by anyone but the two guys who fell for her personality, and that they were special for seeing past her ugly shell while the rest of the world still thought her ugly. It didn’t set well with me all throughout the show, and when it ended on that note, it soured the rest of the experience for me.

 

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Defendant: Overall a very satisfying and addictive ride, but I was disappointed by how easy it all seemed in the end, for Ji Sung to just suddenly catch all of the breaks and make all of the right moves to finally defeat Eom Ki-joon. Obviously I would’ve been even more upset if he hadn’t gotten justice, but I thought a few twists would have served the story well in the final quarter. It wasn’t a very complex story, but it sure was fun to watch.

Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People: The romance kind of happened too quickly, but it was so cute that I found myself not caring that it was suddenly dropped into our laps. When Chae Soo-bin thought she couldn’t be loved because she was just a plain Jane, my heart went out to her, and now I won’t be satisfied until they get married and have a whole gaggle of freakishly strong children.

Strong Woman Do Bong-soon: Be still my fluttering heart.

Tomorrow With You: It took me a really long time to get through last weekend’s episodes, because it seemed really dumb of Lee Je-hoon not to suspect worse of his evil ex-employee, and then also dumb of Shin Mina not to share that she might suspect him of murder! It was just a very frustrating week for the good guys.

Youn’s Kitchen: I thought it sounded a little nuts of Na PD to just drop actors off on a tropical island and make them run a restaurant for the first time in their lives, but apparently this is possible. The show mostly rides on Yoon Yeo-jung’s sassy charm, while Jung Yumi is adorable and Seo-jinnie is his usual self. Mostly though, I’m watching it thinking that a tropical vacation would be really nice right about now.

 

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Radiant Office: This is a bit of a weird watch for me, since there are things about the show that I genuinely do like, and while there aren’t parts of it I don’t like, I’m surprised to feel this ambivalent in only the second week. I can kind of see what we’re building up to with Woo-jin and Ho-won’s relationship, but maybe this is all just stemming from my disappointment in seeing Ha Suk-jin play the same character again. Or maybe I’m just unfairly comparing this office drama to Chief Kim, which delivers on the gags a little less awkwardly. Whatever the case, I’m not tuning out anytime soon.

Chief Kim: It’d be easy to dismiss Chief Kim for being too wacky to deliver on its more serious beats, except that it actually manages to handle both sides of the emotional spectrum surprisingly well week after week. I can think of so many shows where the wacky, offbeat humor felt like something just thrown in to break the melodrama up (especially when weird musical cues are thrown in to tell us that This Is A Hilarious Moment), but the humor is such a part of Chief Kim’s identity that it’s impossible to think of it without all of the gags. And while it’s easy to throw jokes at us, the best thing about these jokes is that they land every time, and manage to even be relatable despite the oddity of the situations going on. This production knows exactly what it is, which is why I’ll be sad to see this one go. Also: PUPPY YUL IS BACK!

The Liar and His Lover: I’m trying so very hard to see Lee Hyun-woo as an adult who’s capable of living in his own house, but he still looks like he belongs in high school. However, I’m excited to see him in a role with a little bit of meat on it, since I still remember his stunning performance in Equator Man. I tend to shy away from cold, douchey male leads, especially when the heroine is the equivalent of a bundle of puppies, but I can see how the dynamic is going to work for the dramatic angle later. The editing’s a little all over the place, but otherwise, this seems like it’ll be a winning addition to the youth drama genre.

Defendant: I’ll admit to being the teensiest bit disappointed with the way Min-ho’s story wrapped up, since it felt like they kept him in the game long past his expiration date only to take him out with a newfound sense of sentimentality that we hadn’t really seen from him before. I would’ve preferred it if Jung-woo had actually managed to break him mentally, even if he kind of did, though he used a character that seems to have been written in just for the purpose. But that’s all small stuff compared to how the show managed to keep us on the edge of our seats week after week, and not without a little bit of irony—how funny was it that they used a toy Truck of Doom to torture the guy who’s been using a Truck of Doom to kill people with impunity all series long?

Perfect Wife: What is this show? The revenge scheme, or whatever it is, got much too complicated as of the fourth episode, and they just keep piling weird absurdities on top of weird absurdities. So Eun-hee not only married the heroine’s first love for revenge, but she hired a girl to break up the heroine’s marriage because she’s been in love with her awful, awful husband all along? So she invited the couple to stay in her house and also maybe wants to purloin their kid because…? That the show keeps managing to one-up itself on the twists isn’t necessarily something we should be lauding, because if that’s all it took, then M. Night Shyamalan would still be considered a hit filmmaker.

 

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Radiant Office: Only two episodes in, but I am hooked! Finally a 2017 k-drama that grabbed my attention from the pilot. Not sure why Ha Suk-jin was cast to play the same iteration of the grouchy boss (see: Drinking Solo), but I’m here for Go Ah-sung who is doing an excellent job of tugging at my heartstrings, much like Im Shi-wan did in Misaeng. I get Misaeng vibes from this, which are certainly very good vibes to have, and Hoya and Lee Dong-hwi perfectly complete the temp trio who just can’t catch a break.

 

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Currently recapping: Rebel: Thief Who Stole the People

Strong Woman Do Bong-soon: Kyahh~ yes! The romance between Park Hyung-shik and Park Bo-young is finally heating up. To be honest, I could completely do without the Bridestealer bit, or even Ji-soo’s character (I know it’s a shock to me too because I thought I could love him in everything). But the heart of this drama is really Bong-soon, her tight-knit family, her growth with Min-hyuk’s support, and the juxtaposition between her and Min-hyuk’s own background. Of course their family is not perfect, but whose is? The warmth and loving relationships, that’s shown right along with the flaws and emotional hurdles, are what’s really driving me to check into this show every week.

 
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Defendant: Overall a very satisfying and addictive ride, but I was disappointed by how easy it all seemed in the end, for Ji Sung to just suddenly catch all of the breaks and make all of the right moves to finally defeat Eom Ki-joon. Obviously I would’ve been even more upset if he hadn’t gotten justice, but I thought a few twists would have served the story well in the final quarter. It wasn’t a very complex story, but it sure was fun to watch.
Okay GF thanks for the summary, I was feeling like starting to watch it, now I might not..heheh.

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Defendant is still an entertaining watch. The first 5 ep took me ages to finish. Then from episode 6, I caught up in a week! Quite entertaining popcorn show :)

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Agree with you.

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You should watch it, its really a good drama and impressive performance from both male leads.

I like the first 6 episodes the most because what happened was like a mystery and you keep jump into theories and analysisa amd you keep thinking what's going on.

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Thank you all for the review! I will take a look after all!

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I dropped the show at finale. It wasn't like it was a big disappointment, I just didn't. I don't regret watching it though. I really liked the beginning. The mystery surrounding the crime was I think the cleverest thing the writer had for the show. Ji Sung was awesome and the prison mates absolute delight.

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It's amazing, honestly. I can see why people could find the ending too easy, but that's only because Jungwoo managed to corner him at every end and knew just what his weaknesses were. It's such a brilliant ride!

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Tomorrow ep 14 ending got me super super frustrated. Wanted to bang my head and throw hp.
You don't need super powers to thwart fate. You just need more brains and common sense. Why did so joon repeat the same mistake of leaving his loved one alone if the person in question is going to be in danger? Why??????

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Tomorrow With You

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Ep 15 is frustrating too T_T

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Agreed! More ridiculously bad choices... it makes me get mad at the writer.

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but i will miss seeing the adorably cute couple and their wonderful winter coats...

c'mon, without all the predictable turn of events it wouldn't be an authentic Kdrama... tho it does get tiresome, so knock it off, you writers!

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I just caught up with Tomorrow with you - after a day of binge-watching episodes 7 to 15. (man...its been three months since I last did this, my head is spinning)

Its such a good show minus exactly these kinds of lapses - "Just communicate dammit!!!" are words I was yelling at the screen the whole time. I really do mean it, a little communication would go a long way in avoiding most of the tragedy that befalls them all.

Now looking forward to Tunnel and am currently watching Rebel: Thief who stole the people and Strong Woman Do Bong Soon and perhaps Chief Kim (though I haven't watched this week's episodes).

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I haven't watch epi 15 of TWY, because I want to wait for epi 16, to know the ending first.

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Yes yes! They really need to just bare all the truths and talk instead of keep hiding. Its even more frustrating for us viewers because we get to see the whole thing happen twice!! Once when so joon was travelling and another time when it has happened. My.. so so frustrating. Marin's dad must be the biggest culprit why they keep repeating the same fate T_T

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me too!

I love TWY, but I do think that at episode 13-14 out of 16 episodes, it's not time to be super mysterious and spinning your wheels. I really hope episode 16 will be able to deliver a satisfying conclusion. Can't wait to watch episode 15 and 16 tomorrow (waiting for subs and also wanting to watch it without the sounds of college students partying next door annoying me)

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OMO! Are you me? Seriously. I actually just finished watching ep 16 without ever watching 14 and 15. Now I think it's one of the most romantic dramas I've ever seen!

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@Sera and nomad, June Lim, ar - hahahaha it certainly would seem like nothing but romance if you skip episodes 14 and 15. I actually really enjoyed them - the time-travel questions were answered. But, well...the ending felt a bit flat. More on this on the actual recap page for ep 16.

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They have been going around in circles sigh. Also they made the gf's husband KDJ was it, the big baddy, so I felt like that could have been better managed? Also there should have been two more episodes. Everything seems rushed to be resolved within ep 16.

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Agreed on frustrating eps. btw I felt so nervous watching final episode, but Happy (and sad) and satisfied with the ending.

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@tineybeanie: Totally agree with you about the uselessness of the bridestealer subplot. When I'm watching this with my husband I zip through those scenes. I am counting on the recaps to let me know if I'm missing anything pertinent to the development of the rest of the show.
I do however like the police team and the leader who gets all his idea from the old TV show. I just wish they had a more exciting/relevant/better/funnier,even/ case to be working on.

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I totally agree, to me the bride stealing subplot feels like an entirely different drama.

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Earth Hour, guys! A world-wide event celebrating watching dramas in hte dark doing nothing. Z and typing bollshut

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My reaction after watching SWDBS raw drama for episode 10 be like:
Ahn Min-Hyuk youuu gott my heart!!!!!
Give us episode 11 already now!!!!!
Sorry for a lot of acclamation mark ?
Park-park couple made me so inpatient for Friday-Saturday.

Park Hyung-shik be ready for next project and please choose carefully cause we want you got another great project.
Same goes for Park Bo-young, it's time for her to cast in major tv's
Mmm...for Ji Soo, please get leading role or second lead that-not-so-heartache to watch ?

As for Radiant Office:
Regardless Ha Suk-jin playing same role, I'm in for Go Ah-sung.
So far i like Ha Suk-jin typical role. It's only episode 4 and still far away for judging. Maybe it will got better and developing something new next week.

Seat back and got my popcorn ?

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I think my favourite part may have been when Secretary Gong and Kim Won hae's other character has their bonding moment over Do Bong Soon's strength. Kim Won hae's such a hoot in all of his characters!

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I liked that moment for Secretary Gong and the Kim Won Hae character, but I really hated everything else about KWH's character. I usually really like that actor! But the bitchy fey character just feels so dated and cheap, you know? I think that's the script and directing though.

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But, Beanies - have we ever ever EVER not seen a heroine get her first love????? Everyone is going down the PHS road (and so am I) But I am ever mindfully aware that her true love is Ji Soo...and he's in the process of redeeming himself as the real hero of this drama. Are we about to watch one of two possible switcheroos: 1) The Heroine does NOT get her first love, and/or 2) our lovely, beloved Park Hyung-ski loses out to Ji Soo?
This really has me intrigued as I can sense a revolt surging up in drama-land.

What does everyone think? - because all of it is possible!!

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We've seen plenty of heroes not get their first loves. So if we're doing the whole reverse gender tropes thing, I think we can safely assume the Bong Soon and Min Hyuk will be the end game. BS and MH also have the most screentime together. Usually, lots of screentime together+bickering = OTP.

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I'm now waiting for the 1st kiss. Kdrama rule, right? The one who's the 1st kiss gets dip!

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Yup. I'm pretty certain its Min Hyuk as well.

To be honest, I came for Ji Soo, but now I can only see Park Hyung Sik. Is it the writing, the screen time, the character? Or the actor himself?

Also with Hwarang (which I dropped around episode 10), Park Hyung Sik completely won me away from Park Seo Joon, though originally I started the drama for Park Seo Joon, and didn't actually like Ji Dwi's forceful ways.

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Lol Heads, I'm with you on enjoying the wonderful balance of wacky humour and emotional beats in Chief Kim. I giggled myself to sleep thinking of the Goblin parody walk through the fog and the return of PUPPY YUL playing baseball. The TQ Psycho+Gluttonous Sociopath team is all I ever wanted. I will be so sad to see this show end next week, and will definitely grab my mom to rewatch it with her. Amen!

I'm still enjoying Rebel and felt this week's episodes laid the groundwork for some serious upcoming conflict. Bring on Evil Eyeliner Mori vs. Mighty Child! I almost felt these last episodes have been too tame for such a bloodthirsty reign (I may regret saying this later on, it is probably the calm before the storm, but lots of us just want the storm to come already lol).

I watched Queen of the Ring because I wanted something short and light. I didn't dislike it but thought it could have made a stronger statement about what real beauty is. And pff, who can really say Kim Seul Gi isn't pretty?

Liar and His Lover: watched the pilot episode. It has a classic look and I like Joy's wide smile. I hope we get a heartfelt story about the joys and challenges of being musicians, because that's something I can really relate to.

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I hope we get a heartfelt story about the joys and challenges of being musicians,

You speak my heart. I didn't even know that's what I wanted out of the drama until you spelled it out for me. I like the romance and Sorim, that's true, but I decided to stick with this drama because I liked the way they gave each of the musicians an internal struggle related to music I want to see them overcome. That aspect appeals to me as much as the first-love youth romance part.

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LOL @ 'lots of us want the storm to come already.'

I feel conflicted now. On one hand I really really want to get to the meat of the story, but on the other hand I'm not sure if I'm ready for the angst that is to come. Monday scares me now.

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Yeah, whenever I think of the prick that is Scholar Song, I feel almost too frustrated to watch. I was also wondering why Gil Dong left Prince Chongwongoon alone in exile. Did he assume the man would just curl up and die? Actually, I was surprised that Gil Dong did. I supposed exile conditions during those times were terrible and the Prince was exiled in bad physical condition. But surely it wouldn't kill to ensure your enemy doesn't make a comeback?

I know all these people will have their victories over Gil Dong and gang now before the tables turned.

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The return of puppy yul & his bowl hair lol.
I also will rewatch this drama for sure, especially when I am in drama slump ngee. Have you watched the latest interview? They did it during Nam's birthday. The bromance between Nam and Junho is also real in real life?

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I haven't seen that interview yet. Sounds like something to watch when the show is over and I'm missing the bromance. I can't believe it's almost the end! *sob*

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On Perfect Wife : I like the mystery about Eun Hee and what she wants actually. Also most of the characters esp Jae Bok are very interesting. I love trio ahjumma too (Jae Bok and her friends).

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Good for you. Anyway, please join us at the recap for next episode so we can talk about the drama together. We need more beanies in Perfect Wife camp? You have 4 more epi to catch up hehe.

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re: Perfect Wife: It would be interesting to see the couple proceed into a divorced situation with kids. It's something we don't see much in the dramas. I've seen it in Unstoppable High Kick but it involved the guy moving in with his parents and his mom doing a lot of the work.

Oh, and my parents also didn't ask for my input before we moved (over and over and over again) either.

The actress who plays Eun Hee deserves an award. She does crazy eyes with a sweet yet somehow scary smile really well.

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I get the feeling that the drama is trying to make the cheating husband sympathetic, so I'm pretty sure that Jae Bok and Bong Guu won't end up being the endgame and that there will be a reconciliation of sorts (even though they filed divorce, there is a waiting period for them to cancel it before it actually goes through). Other than that, I'm totally enjoy the heck out of this drama.

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I get that feeling too though I really wish it wasn't leaning that way. The husband isn't sympathetic to me at all, he just seems immature and selfish. I know the consensus in the recap comments is that he's a good dad but I just don't agree. So, like you, other than that I'm enjoying it too.

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Re: Mi Joo from Queen of the Ring

I completely agree with you, her last scene where she gets along with the her childhood friends again? Wow she's a total bitch and I don't know how do they stay friends. I also can't never like this actress for some reason, back from MND and Let's Eat, she always ends up being the annoying but pretty side girl.

I skipped episode 2 of this series because the preview made me cringe and glad I did, because episode 3 is angst-free and it's always satisfying to see douchy male lead being jealous to understand his true feeling. I still feel that the childhood friend should be the one who gets the girl because it delivers better message, but I knew from the start that it isn't what the writer intend.

Overall it's not a bad watch, but it ain't Splish Splash Love (this show is perfect!) but it's always a pleasure to see Kim Seul Gi back on screen. Hoping this would open more doors for her in the future.

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Liar and His Lover really has that classic look like you said. It gives off the feeling from japanese movies about first love, a bit dreamy. Or the old-school korean dramas from the 2000s, but with better resolution and modern lively color palette. Bok Ju and Shopping King were like that too, a mix of nostalgic feeling without being boring. Ah, wished I studied cinematography and describe what I mean better. ^___^"""

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how funny was it that they used a toy Truck of Doom to torture the guy who’s been using a Truck of Doom to kill people with impunity all series long

Ha! That does sound funny... and satisfying. I chuckled this week when Chief Kim yelled an encouraging "Fighting!"... just as they were about to start fighting.

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Chief Kim: Couldn't wait for the two Avengers (read: quirky chief kim and gluttonous yul) to bring down everyone who's going on their way! The last 2eps will be very satisfying

Radiant Office: I got mad at Hoya's character for trying to save himself but I guess that's work for you. Even if you think he's your best friend you'll never know when he's backstabbed yoi

Strong Woman Do Bong Soon: I don't know how I'm still alive after watching eps9-10 because, well, Minhyuk's swoony eyes almost killed me on the spot. I wonder how Park Bo Young could survive that eyes attack and not go limp everytime he stared at her like that

Father I'll Take Care of You: Started this because javabeans recommended it. It started good and I really love Donghee and Sungjoon's story and I wish the drama could focus on them. I dislike the whole Han family because they're so histerical it's silly and they're basically destructing themselves without the helping hand of Kim Jae Won

Father is Strange: I hope Lee Joon's birth secret is just a misunderstanding because I love him with Jung So Min already. Please please please let them be together. Lee yuri and Ryu so young are killing it, their chemistry is so amazing

Tomorrow With You: My eternal love for Lee Jee Hoon couldn't make me love this drama no matter how hard I tried. I wish we just focus on their cute marriage story where So Joon is being swoony and my heart almost stop beating because of it

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(Cont)
Queen of the Ring: I love Kim Seul Gi but I think that the story is not so good and I have to keep reminding myself not to get mad when he choose Mijoo over Nanhee. Sure they got together in the end but it didn't cover my angry heart when he abandoned Nanhee for someone pretty

Liar and His Lover: I like the drama. It's different from the Japanese one (Sato Takeru is love but Lee Hyun Woo also did a great job in playing Han Gyul). I don't understand the criticism because I think it's doing fine with the acting. Joy is green, of course, but everyone need to have a starting point, right? Who knows it could be the right one for her

Gah. I watched so many dramas D:

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But.. But... Aki is Takeru Sato.. T^T
I just couldn't see it another way..

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but takeru sato's version is different from the original. I think lhw's version is closer to the original, but also different, which I don't mind.

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i have to agree. takeru fit the role of Aki to a tee....

and actually, the girl was less excessively bubble and ignorant (using his music???) in the Jdrama... that didn't happen, right?

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They changed a lot in the j-movie (can't be helped with short time) and one of the result is that Riko in the j-movie come off less naive and clumsy than in the drama. In my opinion from the first and part of the second episode, Solim resembles manga Riko more. But even Solim feels less naive and awkward but again, can't be helped.

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@lunaticandra
I love Sato Takeru's Aki but I'm seeing it positively since it's kdrama, so lee hyun woo's portrayal fits the kdrma trope better. Just my opinion though :)

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On Strong Woman, so true! PHS' looks were so intimate, even more so than kiss scenes! This is the first time a drama has me sqeeing this hard since MDBC @.@

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That stare! OMG! I felt like I'm melting everytime I see him staring at Bong Soon with such swoony eyes. If I'm Bong Soon, I would throw myself at him without second thought lol

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LOL I know right!

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On father is strange, the chemistry between lee yuri and ryu soo hyoung is really off the chart. They really match well

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I don't understand the big deal with Park Hyung Shik. He does absolutely nothing for me and I find Strong Woman Do Bong Soon to be an offensive drama. It is sexist, volatile, has had some homophobic comments, and the last straw for me was the domestic violence that was done by Bong Soon's mother to the father. I want to be happy for Park Bo Young with the ratings this show is getting but the drama doesn't deserve the ratings in my honest opinion.

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Why so serious? It's just a comedy. :)

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This kind of comedy that people watch without much thinking is what actually shapes people mindset unconsciously. I really agree with all Dana says about the drama except for Park Hyung Sik since I think he did a great job haha. It's too bad that the writing includes (kinda) offensive homophobic jokes and continue shaping gender stereotypes despite their strong woman premise

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People always have different taste so no need to force yourself to watch the drama or like Park Hyun Sik just because it got high ratings. I usually just ignore ratings because I like things that's different from K netizens. I always stay away from drama that smells trouble to me. It's better rather than forcing yourself to watch it just because others are watching and ended up dissing it :)

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I often don't understand why some shows do well in Korea. Occasionally, I don't understand why some shows do well internationally when they don't do well in Korea. Quite often I don't know why some shows go hallyu and others that I think are better don't. It just is what it is, and I'm just so happy to enjoy the dramas I do. With regard to Strong Woman, I think the lead actors are carrying this drama, and honestly I think a lot of it is the actress. PHS is imo doing great here, but I think it is just as much the genre which works for a Friday night and the actress who is very popular. Oh, and it lucked out by starting after Goblin had ended....always good to have good timing.

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agree with your comment.

because liking a drama is a matter of preference just like i cannot force myself to watch goblin even if almost everyone are going crazy about it.

so if you don't like something or someone better just ignore them less stress on your part lols.

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Yes life is too short to spend for the drama that you dislike from beginning. I did it, dropped this drama after epi 3/4. I am sorry Park Bo Young, I will watch your drama next time hopefully.

Park Hyun Sik also is not my taste, I do think he is cute but that's it. He is one of rising actors. He is not the first, I felt the same way too for Kim So Hyun when everyone go ga ga for him after YFAS, I only started to open up with him after Producer.-others Lee Jong Suk, Ji Chang Wook etc. But it is a matter of preference, and i will let those who love them to love them and not bothering with it.

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Yes i could understand coz there might be an actor or actress that you like but i dont ?? as for Park Hyung Sik i do really love him since about six years ago ??? and im just so proud of him now to get atleast some recognitions that i think he deserve but im not going to force someone to like him the way i do so no argument there.

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Yes we have our own favourites, and we dont have to force everyone to feel the same with us. ?

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We have similar taste Sera. I recognize the talent of PHS, KSH, LJS but I don't go gaga over him. But hey isn't that the fun of dramaland, we have so many hot dudes to choose from so we can fight less over them ?

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Yes I prefer the less known actors so I dont have to share with so many people lol kidding?

Yep too many hot dudes though. Just choose whoever we want.

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I don't think this show is outright sexist, but it sure is suggesting that without superhuman strength, that females who don't have it are lumped as "weak" and to hear it come from Do Bong Soon herself irritates me. So I understand why Dana felt the show was doing that way.
In addition, no one is bothered much as Gook Do's behavior (i'm referring to people in the show) and I felt that DBS should just flat out say that he shouldn't go underestimating her.
I felt that this show is trying to show that you can't underestimate females, but it keeps on reiterating back that DBS is some kind of freak or inhuman. It's like denying that female can go that far in strength.

Also I wanted to point out when it comes to screentime for Hee Ji, a lot of the commenters were calling her very horrible names and so forth. I felt that was such a detrimental thing to witness that one gender(s?) putting down someone with "gender-specific" namecalling >.> I felt the writing could have been better for Hee Ji character even if she is a side character. Instead, they could have made it so that she told people she broke up with Gook Do or that we see a scene where she confessed she doesn't love him anymore before his confession on liking someone else. Like give more care for other female characters too. To me, characters without superhuman strength should be encourage to develop and blossom and that is a better statement/impression on breaking down gender stereotypes.

I agree with everyone to drop DBS if Dana feels uncomfortable because that's what I did and so did my friend. Although I think my main issue is with the homophobic vibe jokes. :\

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Btw I want to clarify the commenters were on Viki not on dramabeans.

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SWDBS has problems. I am not going to deny that. If it's to the point where you can't enjoy it, then I suggest stop watching it. But everyone's tastes and opinions differ.

There is nothing wrong with liking something that is problematic--EVERYTHING is problematic in some way and to some extent. As long as you can acknowledge its issues without trying to make excuses, I think it's fine. We all have our guilty pleasures, for example. Sometimes you just like what you like with no rational reasoning behind it. Sometimes you can recognize the good and the bad but the good ends up outweighing the bad. And all this depends on your upbringing, experiences, personality, values, etc. Your criticisms of the show make sense, but so do other people's praises.

Personally, I'm fairly neutral about the show. Although I do keep coming back every week so I suppose that says something.

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I agree with your point about liking something problematic. ++++

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Well, for me, I like Hyungsik bcuz i've seen his acting from back then n maybe i'm just biased for his group anyway, lol. But even as a ZE:A fan...i can't be bothered to watch this drama even for him, i don't see the appeal and find it overrated n overhyped. Especially after seeing Voice(which has its flaws but the powerful n bold message and also strong acting from all the casts certainly outweigh the flaws for me and not to mention, i love calm, strong-not necessarily physical- and matured female lead). No surprise as for how popular the drama is, for me, most of the dramas that blow up the biggest are really the not-that-good or bad ones like bof etc...but that's personal taste. nothing i can do if ppl like those kind of stuffs i can't even see the appeal, other than go n watch the cool stuffs i can appreciate and ignore the buzzing hype around me.

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I'm still hanging on the futile hope that zea will have a comeback together as 9 one day. I can't deny that it doesn't seem likely now but I haven't given up yet.

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I too seem to like calm and mature female leads and I couldn't handle DBS for the exact reason that the FL's character is too loud. I left it after 2 episodes and I don't regret it. I'm slowly learning how to let go off a show, left goblin just after 4 episodes and these few episodes which I resisted also felt tough to watch. Yes, life is too short and there're many shows of individual's taste to watch, so no need to force oneself.

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I like calm and collected characters too, but I don't mind the FL in the drama. She isn't that loud. I can think of louder ones, and OMG, are they loud. She just likes to bicker with MH because she can't see eye to eye on what he does. So I have no problem with that.

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If you don't like the drama, just drop it. Life is too short to be wasted on dramas you don't like. And why bother understanding why others like the drama? There are so many people in this world, and so many reasons why, it is not our concern why they like it the way they do.

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Ji Soo is good but damn his flaws are glaring when a better cast is around him or his role isn't particularly well written.
I don't care even a little Guk Doo. He is annoying, stoic and the one job he had as a police officer, he screwed it up by his anger management issues. His character is fast making its way into worst second lead ever for me.
I agree that the message of Queen of the Ring was shallow ath the very core.

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THIS! I felt so frustrated when he juts punched the man. I mean, you're a police officer not a thug. And I almost strangle him when gook doo yelled at min hyuk saying that bong soon is his. What a comment!

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He is holding women hostage and God Knows, what shit he is pulling on them. I thought given the gravity of the situation, the way Guk Doo handled it was just atrocious. You're a police officer possibly dealing with a serial murderer/kidnapper, when do you keep calm while confronting the prime suspect if not in this scenario. For me, I don't care about his Bong Soon angle anymore no matter what he does or will do, that train passed years ago and its really too late now. What angers me is how do you blow up the one job you are supposed to be good at and you consider your pride, How.

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I don't like the way GD confronts the bride-napper because he is so convinced that he is the one. Surely, there are other better ways to go about doing it. For instance, keep tabs on him and see when he slips up or stuff like that. Blatantly confronting him, hitting him, getting caught on surveillance and later losing his badge over that... Aaargh!

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The scene at episodes 9 when he said to MH "Bong Soon is mine to protect" that was the worst scene he's acted, his tone and facial expressions were terrible. I can say that this role is the worst role for JS, he can act the puppy second lead well but when it comes to serious and more complex roles he's bad.

I think if this role was his first role we would dislike him, it's good that we've seen him in roles that suited him first.

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That's just it, Ji Soo's character in Strong Woman Do Bong Soon isn't complex the scriptwriter has written the character to be one note/dimensional and has not given JS anything to sink into as an actor. Has GD shared a scene with his mother who the audience has seen to have these two or three line conversation(s) with BS's father but no scenes with her son. Also GD and BS have known each other since childhood but their relationship/dynamic doesn't show it.

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Now that you mentioned his mother, I wonder if we will have a scene with her and we've never learned anything about his family matters. Or his relationship with them, did they mention his dad? I totally forgot about that.

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I didn't get why he had to shout his line. He is doing a lot of shouting in this show. Is that necessary? He reminds me of Oscar in The Odd Couple. He is always shouting in that sitcom too, and I wonder if it's because the microphone is not powerful enough to capture his normal voice.

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yay, Heads is watching The Liar & His Lover! I don't think Hankyul is supposed to be that mature in terms of characterization. We don't get told his age but I'm assuming it's similar to real-life korean dols. I haven't read the manga so I could be wrong but korean idols with about 4-7 years after debut, some live alone or with the members, and are in their early 20s. They're not necessarily "men" yet, just boys working on music. Watching idol variety shows, sometimes I wonder if men ever grow up. :') Watching I live alone, I'm seriously worried for some of them.
Also, I must have some fate with gamers because all my bias spend their off-time playing video games, I even had to watch hours of video game shows of games I don't understand at all just because they're playing in it. Crazy things fangirling makes me do.

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Pat pat. I know your pain. I've sit through a handful episodes of Overwatch, and live streaming of LoL and WoW and found it entertaining in a bizarre "I have no idea what's going on" way.

About men being childish. I don't mind too much. Seeing them be youthful and have fun makes me smile too, you know?

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I don't know much about Korean idols although my brother is 25 and working as an engineer so he is technically a professional responsible adult. However, I don't know if it's because he'll always be my baby brother to me, but I can't see him as a "grown-up." I mean, I go to his apartment and have to clean up after him. Sometimes, when I see him have fun and get excited on childish stuff or laugh like a kid, I wonder how he's even at work and worry. He shows up late at work almost everyday (but works late hours) too. But he's gotten promoted twice in 3 years so I guess he must be doing something right. *scratches head*

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My ex is 34 this year and when we dated last year, at times, I felt like I was dating a college boy. lol. We didn't break up because of that btw, we got into a silly argument because of our parents and when we separated, we realized we didn't love each other. Now we're just friends. At times when I dated him, the kid-mentality got a bit on my nerve, but 80% of the time, I liked it because it made me feel young, laughing and being silly with him. What I want to say in a convoluted way is: a bit of immaturity and childishness in men isn't a bad thing.

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Hm. I agree about the characterization. It's probably done on purpose so that he matches the girl's age more. I like that he still has moments where he's playful and clumsy rather, like his banters with his friends, or getting drunk on half a can and playing the keyboard LOL, or playing with the drone. It's like we get the beta-male who is just a young boy Hangyul with daddy issues AND the alpha-male only when he's in producer mode.

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Gaming is real, people, and it's with a lot of very mature 30+ year olds too. In fact, did you know that Lee Min Ho is a like a level 2 diamond level player in League of Legends, one of the most popular games these days? I think he must spend ALL of his spare time playing! I know several successful "adults (25-35) who are totally into games, plus I live in a house where the 16 year old is designing his own game and putting it on Kickstarter! It's part of reality and, as long as the player isn't hiding in his parents' basement, is jobless and consuming candy bars and bags of Cheetos all day, it's quite possible he/she is out there being successful in "real-life".

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i totally know lots of people who do well in their day jobs and socialize and still game a lot in their spare time! It's a hobby - like reading, watching movies, or scrapbooking. And it's a hobby that doesn't have to be isolating either. I have friends who have LAN parties - where they all gather together with their laptops or consoles and play a multiplayer game all in the same room.

They're introducing gaming into schools since games do involve a lot of problem solving since many games involve puzzles to move from one level to another. Unlike the games I used to play at the laundromat where I'm just roundhouse kicking some character into oblivion.

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I think the reason people have a prejudice against gaming is because there are not many activities where you see people get so focused they forget everything else and forget time and can be on it for hours, and get so angry about. Maybe gambling. Some of the most intelligent people I know are gamers, genius-level really. They really like the strategy part of it so I don't have that prejudice.

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I love this thread.

Games are ♥

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I can only play candy crush :)

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smtown superstar. I can't stop.

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I play smtown too :D

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I'm not that good. I gave up on tae's timeless mission this week. Just focusing on harping RPs for the league missions next week.

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LMAO I watch "I Live Alone" too. It's fun but it made me realize the Korean men in dramas with their clean house and disciplined routines are stuff of fantasy. Almost no korean celebrity men on the show seem to know what housework is. Tony An, Henry, Dujun, Sleepy, etc. Their house is barely hygienic, they have nothing in the fridge except for expired food, or in some case, just no food at all, can't cook, the whole place is covered in stuff and clothes and toys. Their laundry is all over the place.

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I am watching right now:
JANG BORI IS HERE: I love it Kim ji hoon is so silly, oh yunsoo is so dumb but cute and lee Yuri can be so good as a villain, and I really want min Jung (lee Yuri) to end up with up with her ex, is it weird to cheer on the villain of the story? Cause I totally love lee Yuri here ^^
STRONG WAMAN DBS: I still need to ep 7 and 8, I have it downloaded but since I have started jang bori I didn't have time to watch SWDB this week.
THE QUEEN OF THE RING was absolutely a nice ride, I do agree with javabeans on the fact that nanhee still think of herself as ugly and didn't like herself the way she is at the end...but I was really happy when SE-GEUN accepted her the way she looks at the end ( BTW I do think nanhee is much prettier than miju she is so cute )
I have downloaded THE LAIR AND HIS LOVER but still didn't start watching it every time I want to click on it I get afraid that it might turn out a boring drama even though it was well recommended in many sites but ever since SCARLET HEART I learned to never trust rating of a drama starting kpop idols.
I think after what chickachunga said I am gonna start watching radiant office (if I could finish jang bori this week)

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Have you started Father Is Weird? Because Lee Yuri is awesome in this drama too.

Jang Bo Ri is Here is pretty good makjang drama, Lee Yuri was too good as a villain, she really famous for her portrayal in this drama. Ahjumma hate and love her at the same because of this drama. I started to become her fan after this drama, and she is also very good in revenge drama as well. My favourites are Yellow Boots and Heaven's Promise. I dont know if she suit sageuk, but hopefully one day I get to see her playing evil queen in sageuk lol.

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I am at ep 4 of Father Is Weird/Strange.

I fear that Lee Yuri's character changed now that she has the one night stand with her ex. She was such a b**** but very funny. If she is going to be the typical clingy female, I won't continue.

I also hate to admit that I am bothered by Ryu Soo Young's hair, LOL. Not feeling him in this role.

Besides Yuri, the other actor I like in this is Lee Joon. I'm quite bad at remembering actors' names. I checked and can't believe he's the guy who played GAS's husband in Heard It Through The Grapevine. Back then, I thought he's good. Didn't know he's an idol actor. Is he considered as one? I see that he has quite a few dramas under his belt.

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re: Ryu Soo Young's hair. I wonder if the messy perm now is in. I saw it on Jae Hee in You Are Too Much and Bong Goo in Perfect Wife.

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Yikes! At first I thought it was poodle like but now, I keep seeing Medusa :P

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I thought the messy perm is always in. I have seen it so many times on different actors and actresses in the dramas that I wonder if that's the default hairstyle of normal Koreans on the streets.

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The stylist of Ryu Soo Young is not showing him in a good light at all! The hair, clothes and make-up are turning him into a frumpy ajusshi. Its too much of a contrast with Lee Yuri who is so beautiful and so well styled. She is perfection IMHO. The result for me is a mismatched couple.

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Yes, I am surprised Lee Yuri's character seems a bit clingy after the one night stand. I prefer the bitch she was before. She had so much style then. I don't like this clingy version, when will he call? why is he not calling me? etc.

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She still has that bitchy side in current epi lol. It is just I think she feels insecure, because she got another competition for Jong Hwan - his hoobae at work who is younger.

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Lee Yuri is one of my biases, so whatever her character will be I will still love her lol. But I wished they get back together after few more episodes because I want to see them fighting more.

Lee Joon was the one in Heard It Through The Grapevine. Yes he was an idol (if I am mistaken he already left his group). He always a good actor imo, has the potential to grow, just need more chances.

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I'd happily give actors like him a chance.

Not all idol actors deserve to be lumped under 'untalented' lot.

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I am watching most of current drama except Liar and His Lover, Strong Woman Do Bong Soon and Saimdang (this one I put on hold, until it ended and then binge watch it).

My current favourite shows : Chief Kim, Radiant Office, Super Family 2017, Father Is Weird

So I started Rider : Catch Tomorrow because of Kim Dong Wook that I just found charming in Radiant Office, so far I am loving it. The casts are eye candies, and it is just short 12 epi only. The plot is my cup of tea, about the young ppl and their struggles in life - to find what they want to do. The main story is about 3 best friends, 2 are from wealthy family, one is orphan ; one quits working in big company because tired of being overworked and with the obssessed mother, the second guy has been working part time since graduated, has a good qualification but always failed at job interview, the third guy is living free lifestyle and playboy type. These three then started a rickshaw business. I think the plot is nice and relatable. I am at epi 6 now. There is romance too. hee.

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I caught the first episode of Super Family 2017 based off your recommendation on another thread. It was pretty good :D Have put it on my to-watch list for when I have a spare half an hour.

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Great! This drama is not kind of drama that you will get super excited for next episode, but it is perfect for you to end the day, or when you in the mood to watch something light but won't make you annoyed with the nonsense characters and plot.

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I watch this whenever a new ep is subbed. I get that there isn't any huge anticipating but it consistently makes me laugh out loud.

Is it just me or does this drama look like those old sitcoms? Don't mind it though.

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I also like this drama and remind me of cabel sitcom like potato star

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This drama indeed a sitcom. I didn't watch much of sitcoms before, so I don't know if every sitcom is like this.

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Wow! You really like Kim Dong Wook :D

Never heard of the Rider show though.

It's not just his looks but this actor is good at working his charisma. I mean he has such short screen time but he has already won people over to his camp, hehehe.

If WJ continues to shout and Doctor continues to smile, it's definitely tilting in Dr's favor.

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Started the drama for him, but like the plot so far. If it another boring love triangle drama, I may stopped watching already ?

I also haven't heard this drama before, maybe because it is from the not popular cable. 2015/2016 drama. If you have time go check it.

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Na pd shows are pretty much the same, just the settings are different.

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Perfect Wife: Probably my favorite drama at this moment....and what a cliffhanger. Kind of has a Desperate Housewives vibe.

Radiant Office: The foundation is now in place, and I'm invested in the three amigos.

Strong Woman: Finally at episode 9 I feel the drama flowed a lot better. I actually liked the "timing" comments in the drama. I've found this very true when it comes to relationships. Still I'm totally in it for the leads; with another set of actors, I probably would have moved on.

On Hold: Father, I'll Take Care of You. Really stalled story wise and got stale. Even the fun stuff went flat so I'm taking a break.

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Better drop it I recommend. If you're not too deep enough into the story, just drop it. It's not even fun anymore in the latter half of the story where everyone keeps yelling and I get frustrated over the little thing

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-Strong Woman Do Bong-soon: Love is blooming in the air and I just can't stop smiling. Ahn Min-hyuk will certainly become the swooniest lead male this year.

-What's with This Family (53/53): What a heartwarming and satisfying family drama. The writer did a good job building its narrative from everyday moments and conflicts. Even when it explored a potentially makjang plot, it was dealt with in an ordinary, true-to-life way. It was also full of very humane, flawed characters that we couldn't help but root for. And that, coupled with long eps resulted in multi-ways organic relationships, no matter how unusual and convoluted it actually sounded on paper. Now that it ends, I feel like parting way with a big, warm, unforgettable family. There is longing, but there are also many fond memories to look back to.

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I still remember my experience watching What Happens With My Family when it aired back then in 2015. It was such a heartwarming drama and I love it so much back then, and now when I rewatch it with my Mom, I still love it. The family is quite crazy but it's fun to watch them bond together as family. Still having a bad experience with Yun Park's character (Kang Jae) because he didn't seem to fit with the family, but Kang Shim and Dal Bong always make the day for me. Glad you finish the drama and love it!

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I haven't watched The Liar and his Lover yet (will get to it after I finish watching Strong Woman BS episode 10) so I don't know how it is in the drama. Just curious, isn't Lee Hyunwoo like 24? Shouldn't he live alone by now? I wonder the reason behind the fact that he can't act convincingly as someone living independently. Maybe Korean culture is different and he still lives with his parents? Anyone who is his fans know? Is his character a lot older than he is so he can't pull it off?

Anyway...

I'm watching Strong Woman (which incidentally, also has Minhyuk in a live-by-yourself situation) and I love the cuteness. The slapstick can feel a bit too much occasionally, but I still love it.

I'm going to be sad Chief Kim is in its last leg.

I was annoyed with the female lead in Radiant Office throughout Episode 3, but Episode 4 got better so I'll watch it next week again.

Defendant finished well, but I can't help wondering if it would have been better had it been shorter.

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About Lee Hyun Woo's character, I think it depends on the background of the viewer. I'm in college right now so watching Hangyul doesn't feel off to me since I'm surrounded by guys his age and many of them are still youthful. I have a friend in pharmacy school and at first, I thought he skipped several grades because he was shorter than I was and cute-looking. Turns out, he's an oppa. Hahaha.

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Hyunwoo could totally pass as a high school student if he wanted to, but he looks his age as well. It's just that loads of boys his age can pass as high school students, especially asian boys.

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Many Korean young adults live at home. Yes, Min Hyuk lives on his own, but this could be because he doesn't get along with his family. And the gal's brother, the doctor, still lives at home as well. It actually took me a while to get used to this when I first started watching dramas.

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Right now I'm just following (via recaps) The Liar and His Lover because of, of course, Lee Hyun-woo. Since I'm not actively watching this, I can't say anything about Joy's acting, but she has a bright smile that really bleeds out of the screen caps. Plus, I like Red Velvet and she's a member. I'm waiting for Tunnel this weekend and then Man to Man later in April. Can't wait for that last one!

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If last years cute couple award was for Bok Joo and Joon Young, this year's HAS to be Min Hyuk and Bong Soon. So adorable that they make you smile like an idiot

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Watching:

Voice - Finished it and hoping for a second season! It's too gore and violent for me, but so good I gritted through the violent scenes.

Defendant - Phew. Happy Ending. That's all I asked for. Ji Sung is on a role (Entertainer, imma ignore your existence)

Strong Woman Bong Sooni: My happy pill. I get where the criticisms come from, I do. But it just makes me smile whenever MH x BS are together I don't care anymore. I go into a poodle of happiness.

Liar & Lover: My new happy pill. The editing is jarring, and we're not in an acting master class for sure. It's just fluff, romantic fluff, which happens to be my ultimate guilty pleasure. Add music to that and I'm a happy gal. The bad boy, innocent girl dynamic and the whole atmosphere with the boys and "the other girl" is what I wanted Cinderella and the Four knights to be but couldn't buy. I totally buy it him so I'm praying to Drama gods it doesn't implode on itself and stay like this until the end.

Rebel: the kissssssssss. I feel less involved, but it's still good so I'm not complaining.

Radiant Office: I don't know what is it with me and Office dramas this year. I was never into them (Misaeng being the exception). This year, I really feel them.

Chief Kim: I knew the bromance between Ck and Yul would be good. I didn't know I would be grinning like a fool throughout. If Bong Sooni is my squee happy pill, and Liar & Lover my awwww sunshine happy pill, this is my cackling in laughter happy pill.

Tomorrow with you: the writing is problematic, but I am still rooting for them. I'll have to wait until it all ends to decide whether I loved this or just liked it.

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Isn't Cinderella and her Four Knights also another tvN drama? I didn't watch it so I can't comment on the comparison. However, I agree that the dynamics was sketched out well but it's too early to tell if the sketch will turn into a complete drawing or just remain a sketch.

Liar/Lover has a straightforward simple plot so its strength lies in its simple but layered characters. Most of them we can root for (exception being the Female CEO) and get behind in some capacity. The relationships between all the characters add to the layering. I hope they make good use of that and their music theme.

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Dropped most of the shows. planning to leave the kdrama world.Waiting for Age of Youth and Drinking Solo Season 2.

It started with Krystal and Jong Seok's High Kick 3 Bor-sis fight videos and I ended up watching all 123 episodes of High Kick 3 in 3 weeks. The moved on to School 2013.

Watched School 2013 2 weeks ago. Show was alright. Overhyped.
Dream High - Su Ji looks cute and dropped at 1st episode.

Liar - bad editing, bad narration, bad scriptwriting.

Chief Kim - Became better. Seo yul and Chief Kim combi is the Goat.

Father I'll Take care of you - dropped at 28. Only watching Previews and random scenes of Dong Hui. This is one c grade drama. All the revenge crap and too much of Noise pollution.

Father is Strange - Meh. Another poorly writtern show and that brother from Ojakkyo Brothers didn't learn anything and got into one more night stand. The onlyLikable character is that Karate-temp-intern sister.

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I've watched the first episode of School 2013 few days ago because many viewers were praising the show, i wasn't thrilled to watch the next, it was an ordinary school bullying drama and predictable I thought there's a mystery like School 2015, I loved School 2015 maybe because of Kim So Hyun i was sold in the first few minutes.

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I don't want to spoil you, but since you dropped after episode 1 thinking it's a simple bullying case... there is a mystery. More shocking and heart-wrenching to me than School2015's.

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And the best abt school 2013 is there is no romance. It survives entirely on bromance and teachers' love and the mystery.

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Haha me too, started dropping dramas which I never did even for the crappiest... I guess I lost interest in K-drama world after around 4 long years, I'm going back to my own country's (India) dramas and also a bit into Turkish ones right now.

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Confidential Assignment: what is a great movie! Hyun Bin was spectacular with his action skills! I hope to see him in action drama in near future! he is always doing romance comedy so he was different in this movie from the actor that I knew. About the movie itself, the story is good and the co-actor is funny guy.

Punch: I'm in eposiode 6. I really like the show. the story well written until now with great acting. This is rare these days.

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I am planning to start on Punch, but i felt like watching Hana Yori Dango the Japanese drama first.

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Punch is great!

If you mute it, it looks like one of the most boring shows ever. People in suits talking. Sitting and smirking and talking.

But OMG the dialogue is the best. Watching them fire zingers and spill tea (not literal) on each other was so exciting. And the fact that the hero is an anti-hero means he gives as good as he gets.

If I raise a score card for every clapback while watching this show, my arms will be tired putting up 9s and 10s. LOL

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This is the power of Park Kyung Soo's drama, also the powerful casts.

I hope in next Park Kyung Soo's drama, Han Suk Kyu will be casted.

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I wonder why javabeans and girlfriday don't recap anymore?

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Listen to their latest podcast and you'll know why.
There's a lot going on behind the scenes for them in the past several months. They are the bosses and they are taking care of business....and we love them for it!

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I'm still looking for a replacement show after finishing the phenomenal Nigeru wa Haji da ga Yaku ni Tatsu. Radiant Office seemed like good candidate at first glance, but I fear that the office politics won't hold my interest for too long as it is simply not the stuff I usually prefer.

I've stopped watching SWDBS after reading about the domestic violence. While I have no way of knowing if that scene would have bothered me, I simply have no wish to find out right now. Maybe I'll come back to this show once I feel differently because there were several things to love about it.

Ugh. I hate being in a drama slump. I just really want to fall in love again. :/

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Haha, when Lee Hyun Woo in the car I was thinking to myself: is he old enough to drive? His face is just too young to be mean and serious.

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REBEL: I love Hong Gil Dong's adaptations and this one is no exception. I think what I love the most about it is how it feels like it's telling a new story, while at the same time retaining familiar elements of the tale.

CHIEF KIM: This is heartfelt comedy at its pinnacle. Jealousy Incarnate had more in-your-face laughed-out-loud moments while Chief Kim's brand of comedy is more "cute" but as satisfying because it's at the expense of bad guys. I knew I liked Nam Gong min in comedy. Yul and Myeongsuk are cute puppies.

THE LIAR AND HIS LOVER: Watched this on a whim while I was bored, having no notion of what it was about. Took a bit of time to come to term that it was a music-themed drama. I like it. I'm questioning the editing choice for transition between scenes, and there are clumsy dialogue delivery here and there. Nevertheless, I love the main female character and her squad with her awesome grandmother, 2 awesome best friends and indulgent teacher. It gives off the shojo off the page onto the screen feeling, so learning that it's based on a japanese manga is no surprise. First time watching both the female and male lead. Or any of the other actors except for the evil CEO brother in K2 and the announcer mom in Jealousy Incarnate. The cast feels fresh and that girl playing the female lead is carrying the drama. I wonder if it's her real voice singing the songs, because I love it. I want to find out who sings the songs. Cute light fluff.

BONG SOON and MINHYUK: They are my everything right now. I can't get enough of them. I think I'm becoming obsessed to a dangerous level, obsessing about when the confession will come, when the kisses and goodness will come, and basically think about this couple all week. I love Park Bo young and Re-discovering Park Hyungsik again after that Hotel drama. Individually they're great, together, it's magic.

TOMORROW WITH YOU: I'm behind this. I was too stressed out from that cliffhanger with Director Kim coming up to Shin Min ah when he left her to return in a taxi alone. I think I will marathon it once its finished because my heart can't take the stress.

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I actually find the circumstance is quite makes sense given So Joon character has written from beginning. What I hate is too much PPL and unnecesary scene.. This drama could have been so much better if they reduce otp fluffy moment much more. The build up to Kim Yong Jin case seems less important compare to OTP, it makes less punch. And I hate the ending.... I just pretend this drama end in episode 12.

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Hello Jinni! The lead actress Joy is really the one singing the songs and OSTs. She's a member of Red Velvet and has a reputation for having a honey voice. She actually has a couple of duets under her belt, with her ex-WgM husband Sungjae, Lim Seulong and Do young. I'm really looking forward to the next OST as LHW will be featured as a rapper!

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I'm in a drama slump. Not watching much.

Strong woman Do Bongsoon: If I didn't read the comments, I wouldn't have noticed much that was problematic except for that domestic violence scene (which almost turned me off but didn't). Nothing deep here, but I like it that way. This is all about chemistry between PBY & PHS anyway, so I don't mind. Can't go wrong with good old silly bickering fluff.

Chief Kim: Some deep stuff mixed with silliness. I'm not addicted to it but I makes me feel good every week so I come back faithfully.

His Liar and Lover: I almost turned off watching it but finished the first episode somehow. Then watched the second and once again, another feel-good fluff. Haven't read the recaps for it yet so I'm curious what DB and Beanies have to say on it. Imo, it's imperfect, awkward at times, but cute enough it could become good. I might grow to love it, if I get past the abrupt change of scenes. The music is cute. The main character has a winning smile.

Following Rebel & TWY through recaps.

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I noticed there was a good balance of female versus male leads lately in my drama routine.

For male leads, we've got YKS in Rebel, NGM + Junho in Chief Kim.
Females, I love Go Ah Sung in RO, and I'm liking that girl in The liar + his lover, and Chae Soobiiiiiiiiin in rebel.

And then we've got Boyoung and Hyungsik being cute puppies together. <333333333

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Oh, and Shin Minah in TWY. When I first started the drama, I would never have predicted that I would be the least annoyed with her character.

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Strong Woman Do Bong Soon
finally, a place to rant.
I'll start off by saying that I look forward to Friday and Saturday SOLELY to watch the cuteness and bickering and swoony eyes and blooming love of Bong Soon and Min Huyk. JUST THEM. I aaaadooooore their interaction. they give me life. lol <3<3<3

but the pacing ...

folks, let's be honest: it's been one too many episodes of nothing REALLY happening, plot-wise and even character-wise. Bong Soo is still oddly petulant to the CEO of the company she's being DYING to work for. Gook-doo is still just as stoic and dislikable as in the beginning and the effin kidnapper (whom I have the least interest in) is till on the loose and is holding up waaaaaay more camera time in this drama than I'd like. I mean, come on! get on with it, Show Writers !

after watching a fantastic Episode 7 & 8, and based on the previews, I have SUCH GREAT EXPECTATIONS !!!! :-(
So imagine my disappointment when I watched 9 & 10... 2 episodes which really, plot-wise, could easily have been condensed into a single one. THAT's how much ACTUALLY happened here. NOTHING. I mean, isn't the show more than half-way through now? Shouldn't we get more of:
Bong Soon's heroics
Actual genuine progress between the leads
hilarious family time for both leads ?

2 FULL episodes and it's at the very LAST SECOND that we get what we've all been waiting to hear/see? naaaaah! that's not a cliffhanger: that's poor pacing and writing. I'm not opposed to a slow-growing attraction between the leads but by the half-way point, I'd like things to move a little bit more efficiently. Let's go back to the hilarious fights. to the bickering. to the swoon fest but let's also make visible progress and stop with the previews that always seem to highlight the last 3mins of a WHOLE TWO EPISODES !

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goddamn... it's off my chest now... I'm just so disappointed... Not dropping the show (because how could I?? I love the main couple too much!) but yeah, I won't be running home and refreshing the page for updates on the English Sub for the next episode...

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Same here. The only thing I cared about in SWDBS is MH and BS. Watching ep 9 and 10 live was absolute torture to me as I was constantly checking the clock just to realize we wouldn't get much time left for this couple. And then we got maybe 3 minutes of them in the very end of the episode as a cliffhanger. I also didn't like the office fight between BS and the manager of the development team. I found it ridiculous. While it is impossible for me to drop this drama I will just wait for recaps first next time and then decide which part I will need to skip.

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The fight between BS and the doppelganger is unnecessary and quite drawn-out. Although I must applaud Kim Won Hee (is that his name) on his different distinct portrayals of the characters, Writer-nim, is it still necessary? It's a waste of screen time to get the laughs.

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I didn't mean to have everything in bold !! SOOOOO SORRY !!! (I'm not THAT pissed off. lol)

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Don't forget the closing slash </b>

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I've only started one new drama this week, the liar and his lover. It's the typical high school drama cliche. Or should I say youth drama, with a musical touch to it. Sassy gogo crossed with Weightlifting crossed with Dream high and you get the gist. Acting is green in some parts, editing is a mess, but there is enough nice cute things in it it feels refreshing. I needed a stress-free drama that was easy to watch and this fits the bill.

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I again surprised myself... enjoyed the first episode of Liar much more than the Office...

Also watched first three episodes of Taiwanese drama "The Perfect Match" (cooking lessons by chef Chris Wu!!! ;--) ) and quite liked it.

... and want more Lee Yu Ri in Father... she is soooo greaaaat!!

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Office gets better episode 2, gets a bit worse episode 3, then gets better again episode 4.

Liar gets better episode 2 I think, episode 3 & 4 (??????) We'll see how it goes.

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Yay more of Lee Yuri ! I love her character so much !

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Hahahaha, HeadsNo2's "the heroine is the equivalent of a bundle of puppies" is the perfect description for Sorim in TLAHL.

I mistook connecting with Sorim as relating with her, but I'm really nothing like her. For one, I could never confess first that I like someone, not even to my friends, let alone to the man himself, I just keep quiet. She did both. So it's more like I connect to her the way I connect with puppies. Hahaha. Perfect description indeed.

I really like that she's honest about her feelings, her thoughts, her beliefs, and keeps to her word. I would have been tempted to save his voice file or at the very least, her cover of his song. It looked like she didn't even hesitate to delete his song. Another point where we're completely different.

As for Bong Soon and Min Hyuk, I used to think them cute puppies to with Gukdoo but after seeing how the temperature went up a notch this week, I might have to find a new label for them. Meow. or even Rawr. Hahaha.

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SWBS: Squeeing over PHS and PBY, they certainly turn up the heat in a hospital room, of all places.

Lover and Liar: Lee Hyun Woo certainly carries the role well, although I do feel he does look a bit young, he makes it up with an intense performance. Joy is an infectious bundle of joy, a raw green performance yet. Very promosing drama, I forsee coming episodes will really tug our heartstrings.

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The directing The Liar And his lover is just so good. It's so much more watchable despite so so acting from the new young cast.

Kim Jin Min straight again.!

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I don't know about the directing precisely but reading the recaps convinced me to watch it because of all the pretty pictures. I liked the color and visuals.

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everything is just seems alive. every shot has a purpose. It's so breezy and youthful

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"alive" So THAT was the word I was looking for. Thank you. I think the director has a good eye for drawing out the most beautiful angles. Some of the shots feels like they're straight out of a commercial or movie, especially the close-ups. Which leaves me confused because how can you be so good at directing and be so bad at editing. Unless he's not involved in the editing process of course.

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but maybe this is all just stemming from my disappointment in seeing Ha Suk-jin play the same character again.

I feel a need to defend Ha Suk Jin :D

Yes, Woo Jin like Premium Trash likes to bark at people. They are both also very capable by their own merits. I see no similarities beyond these.

I enjoyed HSJ's Premium Trash because he was funny. HSJ has a knack of making the most unlikable jerk funny and in a way, you know you just can't take the character seriously unlike the male jerks that kdramas like to gloss over. However, I agree very little with how Premium Trash was treating his colleagues, looking down on people he deemed of lower 'quality' than himself. In short, he was quite abominable. Things for Premium Trash turned around when he fell in love. HSJ's has a knack of playing a fool in love and when he fell for Park Ha Sun's character, that was where the fun began.

Woo Jin is a different animal. I actually agree with his expectations of his subordinates and the quality of work they are to deliver. WJ's biggest flaw is his tongue and lack of sensitivity when criticizing people. It gets worse when he is exasperated. Seen from Ho Won's perspective, it is of course very hurting but I can't really blame him because he doesn't know her background nor her condition(supposedly terminal). TBH, if I were her boss, I'd give her a piece of my mind and send her packing too.

I also think HSJ is doing a admirable job playing seemingly similar characters but with a difference. In DS, he was funny because he was overbearingly arrogant and his stupid tagline "High Quality". Here, he's funny when he is going up against his corrupt bosses.

Didn't mean to write so much, LOL. Anyway, HSJ's character hasn't much to do in the first two episodes. I enjoyed his antics trying to win against his colleague and boss last week. The real star of the show currently is Go Ah Sung. She is awesome! I'm not familiar with her works except for Grapevine(which I didn't complete for reasons I can't remember) and Snowpiercer. I don't think being a chungmoro star necessarily translates to good in dramas. But she's everything I expected and more. She is definitely great for comedies.

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Saimdang
Chief Kim
Defendant

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Perfect Wife: This drama blows my mind every single week. That reveal at the end of episode 8 - how the heck was it pulled off?! And Jae Bok is just so awesome. I watch this show partly to see how she doesn't react like a typical kdrama heroine. Partly to see Sung Joon in a likable role. Partly because of the twists. And partly, because Jo Yeo Jung is killing it with her acting.

You Are Too Much: Really dug all the HaeDang and Kyung Soo interactions and the HaeDang and Hyun-Joon scenes too. But really I can't really stand the other characters (including Hyun Joon when he's not with HaeDang). I think GHS leaving gives me a good excuse to just drop it even though I really like Jang Hee Jin (just weird to see an actress change for a character).

Strong Woman Do Bong Soon: Sadly, I seem to only like the Bong Soon+Ahn Min Hyuk scenes. And the BS using her powers scenes. Everything else sort of bugs me. I may wait for a few more episodes and just FF to just those scenes.

Father is Strange: I love most of the characters here. I even found snooty Jung Hwan's mom funny because she hasn't been allowed to be the all powerful oppressor yet.

Tomorrow with You: I agree with girlfriday that it has been a frustrating week last week. I think now that we're moving closer and closer to murdery thriller (which I'm more familiar with) category than supernatural mystery, the plotting is showing its weakness. Luckily, this week is the last week (haven't watched ep 15), so I'm sure things will be resolved soon. And unluckily, I'll have to say goodbye to the swoonworthy So Joon and Marin couple.

Chief Kim: I can't believe episode 18 had me falling more in love with this drama. Usually at the 18 out of 20 part, that love has already been fading. I love how there is a new challenge every week and I love seeing how the characters overcome it with verve and a great sense of fun. Like HeadsNo2 mentions, Chief Kim is very adept at handling both the wacky and the serious, emotional beats. I'm going to miss its "ending-the-week-on-an-optimistic/fun-note". Wish more dramas would do that.

Radiant Office: Episode 3 faltered for me, but episode 4 went back on track on being awesome, especially in giving Ho Won some personal and professional growth. I really hope they don't try to make the romance too big a part of this drama. I also hope they go for a more Misaeng vibe than your average office rom-com vibe.

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I also hope they go for a more Misaeng vibe than your average office rom-com vibe.

I don't mind the romance taking a back seat although I think romance is the crack factor for many.

Radiant Office is like a less depressing Misaeng with comedy injected. If Ho Won was in Misaeng type of office, she wouldn't have lasted a day. In fact, she wouldn't even have survived the jump off the bridge. Manger Cho would also have faced worst sexual discrimination.

I like that Radiant Office tackles these real office issues but has fantasy elements and comedy.

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I have to politely disagree with the comments about Queen of the Ring. Maybe I'm just comming from a place that most people couldn't understand but I don't agree with the whole "everyone is beautiful in their own way" bullshit. That is something you tell someone when you don't think are good looking but, you thik maybe someone else will find them good looking. The fact is that there are people that most people will find good looking. Even babies as old as two weeks stare at people they consider good looking (and they happen to be people regular randos on the street would find good looking). It has been studied that psychologically we all love looking at things (people, art, colors, paintings, etc.) that we consider pretty. It is at some degree innate to find thing pretty. So I think there is nothing wrong about a drama that tells you that, sure you may not be pretty, and maybe some will consider you ugly, but that shouldn't be the end of it. There is more to people than outside beauty, but saying "no I think everyone is pretty in their own way!" even when you still don't think they are pretty is just plain lying. And about the comment of "only the guys that like her consider her pretty" it has also been studied that having feelings for someone generally makes you feel more attracted to them, and as a result something about them is pretty to you. I think this drama nails it in saying, how can someone else see you as someone pretty, or confident, or cool, or smart, if from the beggining you are telling people otherwise. Let them come to their own decision, but if they don't like it then so be it, eff them and you do you. In the end she understood that she may not be pretty but that she wasn't going to hate herself, or care, anymore. And he understood there is more to love and relationships than just finding someone you like to stare at. Just my two cents that I know people might get angry at or dismiss, but this is a discussion, so here it is.

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Agree with your comment. I think the drama was able to show people's perception of beauty and it's true that she did become pretty in his eyes because he liked her. This is the truth, she's still not beautiful to the world but she is to him. And I don't even dispute how she wanted to look beautiful for him in the end by wearing the ring again, I didn't take it to mean that she was unable to accept herself but rather she wanted to look pretty for her BF, the person she liked. who doesn't want that?

But after saying these, I think the drama was just too short to have delved into this concept deeper, if the episodes were longer I think it would have made a better explanation of how she accepted herself just as she is and maybe explained as well how the guy came to like her despite her looks.

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I've been rewatching (again) reply 1988..
This drama reminds me of the good old times when i was still teenagers and twenties.. that was when every single things were considered big, and every little decisions felt like could change the world..
There's this thing about this drama that tug my heart right there.. that after the 4th times watching it, bora and her dad can still make me cry like a baby..
Aaahhh.. good old youth.. miss you sooo much.. ???

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liar and his lover
only to compare to the jmovie version

do yourselves a favor and just watch the japanese version. the female actress was also a newbie but she is 10x better in acting than the korean female actress plus the visuals are so much more matching to the manga especially the male character - he actually looks 25 and not 17!!!

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Wow, it's fascinating how much you dislike the korean drama with a passion to be leaving multiple comments repeating the same thing in the recap and now here. I loved the japanese version but find that the korean adaptation has its own charm. So far, I find I connect with it more than I did with the manga.

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i left maybe ~4 comments in total and that's "dislike with a passion"
lmao ok

i already had my doubts about the drama bc of the tragic casting but the first 2 episodes solidified it , it's so fkn cheesy
too bad tvn was not able to learn their lesson w/ introverted boss in time for liar&lover, casting an inexperienced actress ruins drama and ratings .. tho the male lead is not any better

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I feel like I'm the only one who has no problem believing Lee Hyun Woo is in his 20s. I mean, for one, it's not like he has to change himself, he IS in his 20s. 24 to be exact.

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Nah. I too don't find a problem. It's possible that my eyesight is skewed because I watch idols frequently though. We've got a ton of guys who barely age. Sungmin of Suju stayed the same throughout his 20s for one. It helps me get better at estimating Asians' age now. I used to think everyone looked young. XD Lee Hyun Woo probably looks young if you compare him to normal Korean guys (don't quote me on that, I've never been to Korea) but he looks his age if you compare him to idols, maybe even older. I know several idols older than he is (26, 27) looking younger than he does.

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big problem is when you see him, do you see a great composer/producer? a sound creator? an ex-member of a popular band?
no no no
you see a kid, in high school trying to play grown-up. esp when he was sitting w/ his gf.. he looked like the woman's son!!

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since when does being a great composer/producer means having a specific look? lol

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Javabeans! I started watching Father I'll take care of you weeks ago because you seemed to be enjoying and today, TODAY I need to vent because now its too late and I have committed too much of life to it to stop now, okay. I have mostly enjoyed it, but in the more recent episodes all I can think about is how much satisfaction I would get by punching about 70% of the characters in the face. Why are they so....scream-y? And inconsistent in character? How can a lawyer and a journalist, who would have both dealt with their fair share of con-artists as part of their respective jobs, be so naive and dense? How did they even have a job before Hyun-Woo arrived?? Can Jung-Eun do something other than wondering the streets in over-sized clothing and acting self-righteous infront of Hyun-woo (How dare she, honestly?). Find out, in the next episode of the DRAGOON BAALL ZZZZ. Can dad get over his woe-be-me-I-have-been-such-a-good-father-to-you-Sung-Joon sickness. You are a shitty guilt ridden man, okay! Dude, please somebody give mum a hand-ful of chill pills. Lady is cray-cray. Actually totally cray-cray. She hates her kids. How can you ask your daughter to stay with a cheating husband? Speaking of daughter....okay I will stop otherwise I will be here all night. I mean if there was a weekly review of the episodes, I could vent in a timely manner....okay, no okay, I am okay. THIS IS YOUR FAULT, JAVABEANS. No, sorry its not. I clicked on "Watch Next Episode" voluntarily. I SHOULD HAVE NEVER LISTENED TO YOU! Sorry, okay, bye love you... That got weird.

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*laughing* Sorry, but that's what always happen for most weekend /daily drama.

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Hahaha i love your comment ?
Cab you cone and vent every Saturday :)

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*can you come*

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Not a bad idea. I may just have to do that otherwise I might pop a blood vessel from all that internalised anger. STAY TUNED! For the NEXT episode of the "ANGRY AUDIENCE LADY".

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same here tineybeanie?...i have a huge crush with jisoo since Angry Mom but i pray that bongsoon can fall in love really hard with minhyuk and gookdo can gets all the wrong timing confession for the typical secong male lead #sorrygookdo #nexttimejisoo

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Who let Heads change her profile pic?!

It's toooooo cute!

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She did. It's so cute. I have avatar envy. ;___;

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I didn't watch Defendant or Voice yet...Does anyone think it's worth the time to go back and watch them?

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Yes, they are good drama, in upper tier of current dramas.

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I love Voice, despite some minor flaws here and there. You should watch it. Not sure about Defendant. I haven't caught that yet.

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Yessss! Both dramas are solid. If you like thrills and crime shows, then I definitely recommend both.

I enjoyed Voice more than Defendant, but I will warn you that it was much more violent and bloody than typical kdramas. It even had 19+ ratings for a couple of its episodes.

Both shows are probably good for binge-watching due to their cliffhangers too~ LOL

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