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The Liar and His Lover: Episode 10

So-rim and her Liar finally get a chance to freely experience the breathless happiness of opening themselves up to love. Han-gyul has decided to put aside his doubts and to stop making So-rim wait for him. With all his heart, he’s determined to change so that he can make So-rim happy. Amidst the heart-tugging sweetness of held hands and stolen glances, our two lovers realize how hard it would be to date while the world is watching. But what is worth having, is worth fighting for.

 
EPISODE 10 RECAP

Han-gyul tells So-rim not to hate him. With his heart in his eyes, he confesses that he likes her. So-rim runs into his arms, and they hold each other tightly.

Yoo-na listens to the recording of her song, which came out really well, and asks where Han-gyul might have gone. Her manager guesses that he might have gone to Mush & Co.’s showcase. Yoo-na laughs to herself.

Han-gyul and So-rim walk back, hand in hand. This makes So-rim giddy with happiness, and she refuses to let go, even when she gets a phone call. It’s Soo-yeon, and she wants to know where So-rim is. Han-gyul takes the phone from her and tells his sunbae that he wanted to meet So-rim to congratulate her.

Outside the restaurant, where the Sole team is having a party for Mush & Co., Han-gyul tells her that he better not go in since Jin-hyuk will be there. So-rim is uncomfortable hiding their relationship from everyone, but Han-gyul promises to try hard for her.

Soo-yeon comes out to find them holding hands and grinning at each other. She takes So-rim in and covers for her by telling everyone that So-rim had stepped out to talk to her grandmother. Jin-hyuk and Chan-young seem to both sense that it was a lie.

That night, Mush & Co. travel back in style in Crude Play’s van. They wonder if they’ll have time to eat from now on, and Soo-yeon pointedly says that they may not even have the time to meet people they want to. So-rim smiles awkwardly at her.

But turns out, Soo-yeon wasn’t wrong. In the subsequent days, the three friends are kept very busy by a tight schedule of promoting their album, holding mini-concerts throughout the city, practicing for their recording, and just trying to get through their day without collapsing from exhaustion.

So, Han-gyul ends up waiting for So-rim’s call this time, perking up any time his phone rings and deflating when it’s not her. Oh, how the tables have turned!

Then finally, when So-rim has a chance to look at her phone, it’s 3:00 a.m. in the morning, and she groans because it’s too late to call him back. She sends him a text instead: “I miss you, so much!”

Han-gyul sees the text and bounces on his bed in joy. Ha. Then a while later, So-rim gets a call from him telling her to look out of her window. She laughs to see him outside, and they flirt sweetly until So-rim remembers that she has some free time on Thursday. Han-gyul readily agrees to hang out then, and So-rim can barely wait for their “first date!”

On Thursday, Soo-yeon asks the trio how they intend to spend their off day, and Gyu-sun says that he’ll get an account for his new phone. (Oh dear, so Se-jung still has access to their chats.) Soo-yeon asks So-rim if she has any special plans, and So-rim just says that she’s meeting a friend.

So-rim goes home and tries out different dresses. She inexpertly puts on some lipstick and attempts to purr seductively at the mirror. Hahaha. Thankfully, she gives up the idea. Meanwhile, Han-gyul puts on his usual hoodie and jeans, but then remembers how happy So-rim was about their first date. He changes into a dress shirt, then agonizes over his hairdo. How are these two so adorable?

They meet under a jumbotron playing Mush & Co.’s promotional clips. Their happiness at seeing each other is cut short by Han-gyul pulling out a cap, a face-covering mask, and a hoodie for So-rim so that she won’t be recognized. Then starts the most ridiculous date, as Han-gyul keeps several feet of distance between them. He doesn’t hold her hand, doesn’t share his food, and doesn’t even sit next to her at the movies.

Finally, So-rim huffs that this is not a date and walks away, fully wanting him to stop her. But Han-gyul just looks helplessly after her, afraid of causing a scene that could draw attention to them. Aww, poor guy.

Alone, he leans against a vending machine and thinks back to the call he got from Soo-yeon earlier. She asked if he was meeting So-rim and had told him about the picture of them that got uploaded a while back. She warned him to be careful, and now he sits alone, with his date in shambles.

He sighs and calls So-rim, who’s on a bus back home. She seems to consider not picking up, but then she returns to the movie theater. Han-gyul’s booked out an entire hall. He takes off her cap and mask and apologizes for fixating on protecting her image instead of complimenting her on how pretty she looks today.

Anger forgotten, So-rim sits down, and Han-gyul hands her a box of shoes. He shows her that he got the same pair in his size so they can feel like they’re walking together, even when they’re apart. Pfft. The cheese, it’s too much! They laugh with each other over his renting out the whole hall and hold hands as the movie begins. So-rim finally gets her perfect date.

Se-jung tries logging into Gyu-sun’s account, but sees that she’s locked out. Worried that he’s found out about her hacking, she calls him out on a date. When they meet, she asks if he’s changed his number. He admits that he has but wonders how she knew. She says that he told her, then laughs that he has a bad memory.

Se-jung points out some food on his face, and Gyu-sun excuses himself to go wash his face. While he’s away, she snatches his phone and puts it in her bag. On his return, she says that something’s come up, so she has to go. But instead of responding, Gyu-sun politely asks for his phone back.

She tries to feign innocence, but Gyu-sun tells her that he saw her putting it in her bag. She pulls it out, claiming that it was a mistake. Gyu-sun smiles and agrees, but I don’t think he believes her anymore.

CEO Yoo has a meeting with Jin-hyuk, Chan-young, and their team about Mush & Co.’s performance on the charts. They had started at twelfth place but sunk almost to the thirties by the third week. CEO Yoo points out that they’re underperforming, and with major idols and bands set to release within another week, Mush & Co. won’t have any chance to regroup.

She notices Chan-young’s disheartened face and reassures him that it’s not the song, but the production that is important for a new band. After she dismisses them, her secretary tells her that Yoo-seok has been trying to get ahold of her. Apparently, he’s still miffed with In-woo and wants to sue him for breach of contract.

Chan-young and Jin-hyuk arrive back at Sole, and Chan-young offers to go up on stage with Mush & Co. to boost their reputation, but Jin-hyuk won’t allow it. Instead, he decides that they’ll release another song next week. Before he leaves, Chan-young promises to write a better song next time. He clearly feels responsible for Mush & Co.’s waning popularity.

CEO Yoo meets Yoo-seok at a bar and butters him up until In-woo arrives. She makes them sit down together and tells them to hash out their differences over drinks. Neither men are in a mood to make up, though. Yoo-seok gripes that In-woo thinks too highly of himself, and In-woo tells him that he’s dull and doesn’t have a voice anymore.

Yoo-seok freely admits to stealing In-woo’s music years ago, but he thinks that he was justified because In-woo’s ethics were keeping their band poor. He hits In-woo and yells that you can’t love music unless you can sell it.

After that, CEO Yoo and In-woo end up at the bar alone, and she apologizes for not foreseeing that outburst. She talks about how flexible In-woo was about handing over his music years ago, but In-woo tells her that the music belonged to the entire band. Yoo isn’t fooled and says that they were clearly written by him.

In-woo smiles and says that he’s only saying what he thought she wanted to hear. She reminds him that she promised to be on his side. He shakes his head and says that she wanted to pull him to her side, then use her dad’s money to control his music. CEO Yoo asks if that would have been so hard, and In-woo says dismissively that he must have been wrong.

Hurt, CEO Yoo gets up and begins to walk away, when suddenly, her heel breaks. In-woo helps her to a seat and picks up her shoe. He takes out a tool box and begins to fix the heel as he reminisces about how she would walk into their band sessions wearing loud heals and would refuse to take them off. Then, seven years later, she walked in again as a CEO of a music company.

CEO Yoo adds that by then, he’d married another woman. He doesn’t look up as he says that his wife was a good woman. CEO Yoo huffs that he’s wasting his time with the show — her driver is waiting outside, and she always has an extra pair anyway.

In-woo puts the fixed shoe before her, saying that sometimes you miss the shoe that you’ve grown comfortable in. She looks at him for a long time, then asks if he wants to release an album with them.

Jin-hyuk and Yoo-na wait in his office as the day’s top songs are updated on the charts. Their anxiety is rewarded when they see that her song is sitting on No. 1. Han-gyul checks the charts too and calls So-rim up to ask her to listen to his song. Her reluctance is obvious, and she explains that she’s jealous that he wrote a song for Yoo-na.

Han-gyul protests that he’s jealous of her working with Chan-young too, but they should keep their work and personal lives separate. So-rim argues that their situations are not comparable, since Yoo-na is his ex, while Chan-young is just her partner at work.

Her words seem to stay with Han-gyul, because when Yoo-na calls to invite him to a celebratory dinner, he tells her that he can’t be alone with her. Heh. Good man. He doesn’t explain why, but Yoo-na can guess.

When So-rim returns to Sole Music from a photoshoot, Yoo-na stops her in the hallway and asks if she’s heard her new song. Chan-young spots them together and ducks behind a wall to listen. So-rim admits that she hasn’t, and Yoo-na tut-tuts that she must be jealous because her own song isn’t doing too well.

Chan-young’s face falls at this, but So-rim speaks up. She tells Yoo-na that she’s jealous because Yoo-na had once spent time with Han-gyul, and she can’t do anything about that. She makes it clear that she loves her own song, and Yoo-na shouldn’t speak harshly about it. Chan-young’s face get this odd look of both hope and heartbreak.

When he gets to the music room, the band is practicing his song. He watches them for a while before entering the room. The three greet him cheerfully before taking a lunch break. Chan-young promises to work hard and says that they’re in the same boat for the next three years. The three friends are touched, and they start chanting his name until he begs them to stop.

Jin-woo mentions how much he wants to see the sea and that he’s looking forward to the end of promotions so he can get away. Chan-young asks if they want to do it together — a getaway disguised as a team-building excursion. They cheer loudly.

Jin-hyuk meets with CEO Yoo to tell her that Mush & Co. will appear on a special episode of a show called Music Sketchbook. The producers only want Crude Play to close the episode in exchange. CEO Yoo likes the idea, but then she asks for So-rim after their promotions are over.

Her idea is to pair So-rim with another band to make the best use of her voice. Jin-hyuk points out that taking the vocalist out of a newbie band would spell death for Mush & Co. CEO Yoo seems unperturbed by the idea, pointing out that Jin-hyuk just cares about So-rim too.

At his reluctance, she says: “I don’t understand you. Sometimes you are a musician, and sometimes you are a businessman.” (You stole my words!) She adds that this waffling is the reason he can’t succeed. She reminds him that Crude Play is a time bomb and tells him to just focus on them. When Jin-hyuk gets in his car at the end of the meeting, his face contorts and he yells out his frustration.

Then he gets a call from a drunk Yoo-seok and goes to placate him at a bar. He whines about In-woo before complaining about CEO Yoo’s attitude. Jin-hyuk listens with interest as he tells him about CEO Yoo releasing In-woo’s album.

In-woo texts with So-rim while sitting at his own bar with Han-gyul. His son is amazed that they are such good friends and wants to see the texts, but In-woo hides them from him. He tells Han-gyul that friendships are unpredictable and that you never know how they might pan out. Han-gyul seems to hear more than his father says, and asks if he’s seeing someone.

Mush & Co. and the Crude Play boys sit together, whispering fiercely. When Chan-young comes in, So-rim instantly starts crying, while Shi-hyun, Yoon, and In-ho rake him over for taking the kids out on a holiday when he’s never suggested one to them. Chan-young tries to soothe egos, when Yoon suddenly declares that they decided to go on the same trip. Everyone yells in glee while Chan-young collapses on a beanbag, realizing that he’s been had.

The boys wonder if Han-gyul would like to come, but they figure that he’ll refuse in favor of working on the band’s music. They call him, and predictably, he scolds them for wanting to play instead of working hard. But as soon as In-ho mentions Mush & Co., he does a complete flip and pronounces his utter readiness to take a holiday. So-rim grins at the news, and Chan-young observes her happiness.

The two bands and their managers end up at the beach. The boys gang up on Han-gyul and dunk him in the water. It’s a long day of carefree fun, and everyone takes full advantage of their time away from work.

Yoo-na and Jin-hyuk have lunch with CEO Yoo, who congratulates Yoo-na on her success. She tells her that she’ll talk to Musical Sketchbook and make a place for Yoo-na on their show as well. Jin-hyuk’s mouth thins at this meddling, but it gets worse when CEO Yoo tells Yoo-na to come to Who Entertainment.

Yoo-na notices his expression and tells CEO Yoo that Sole Music suits her brand of music. CEO Yoo asks if it’s because of Han-gyul and assures her that Jin-hyuk will let him produce her music no matter which label she’s under.

The gang at the beach decide to play dodge ball, and the losers will be forced to cook and clean. Since there are just two girls, they decide to play ladders to see who gets paired with them. Soo-yeon says she’s fine with anyone except Shi-hyun. But when Shi-hyun gets paired with her, he’s clearly beyond pleased.

When the game starts, she tells Shi-hyun to lose quickly, but Shi-hyun wraps her arms tightly around his waist and says: “I can’t let a lady get hit with a ball.” Even Soo-yeon has to smile at that.

Chan-young and Han-gyul get paired together, and Chan-young makes it clear that he’s trying to get Han-gyul hit so that they can end the forced closeness. But Han-gyul changes the rules by saying that if a team member gets hit, then both are out. Everyone agrees, and Han-gyul pulls Chan-young into a bromantic backhug. Hahaha.

The two get competitive then, wanting the other to get hit. At one point, the two keep pushing each other in front and fall on the group in a heap. So-rim — revved up from the game — hits their heads with her ball and yells in glee that she got both of them.

The two end up on kitchen duty, but we see that Han-gyul’s the one doing the cooking. Finding him alone, So-rim walks up and tells him that she missed him. He asks if she wants to go to the beach at night and light firecrackers. She agrees, and they make plans to sneak out after everyone goes to bed. Chan-young walks in, and Han-gyul smoothly pretends that he’s teaching So-rim to cut vegetables.

But Chan-young clearly senses their plans, because after dinner, when So-rim and Han-gyul try to leave their table, Chan-young stops him and gives a lecture about band unity. So, he’s stuck sitting at the table while So-rim makes sad faces at him from the other end.

She texts to ask if he remembers their plans, and he texts back that he’ll stay “alive.” Unfortunately, Shi-hyun initiates a drinking game, and Han-gyul is out like a light after the first drink. So-rim groans to see him carried into the resort like a sack of potatoes.

Back at the table, they start the “real” drinking, and the next one to lose the game is Soo-yeon. Shi-hyun offers to be her black knight and take the drink for her, but she grabs the glass and glugs down the drink. The boys watch, stunned, as she pours herself another glass and finishes that off too.

So-rim sits alone with a sparkler and grumbles about Han-gyul’s incomparable stupidity under her breath. Chan-young finds her among the hedges and tells her not to wander out to empty pathways. “I don’t want you to,” he says with clear possessiveness, which takes her aback. He asks for a sparkler of his own to light. Then, as the fireworks crackle, he notices her closed eyes and guesses that she’s making a wish.

She admits that she couldn’t think of one this time, since her last wish came true. Chan-young asks glumly what that wish was, even though he seems to remember well enough that she’s wanted “to be liked.” So-rim just smiles, until she singes her hand on the sparkler.

Jin-hyuk visits In-woo at his bar as he practices with some musicians. He asks In-woo if he knows why CEO Yoo offered to release his album. In-woo says he doesn’t, and Jin-hyuk speculates that she might be trying to compensate him for helping Yoo-seok steal his songs. He calls her shameless and offers to help In-woo get his songs back.

In-woo says it’s all in the past, but Jin-hyuk argues that Han-gyul is still traumatized by that past and is extremely sensitive about his music. He claims to feel duty-bound to help In-woo, who is his senior and father to his best producer.

So-rim wakes up early next morning to a text from Han-gyul. He asks her if she wants to see the morning sea. She runs out to see that Han-gyul is waiting with a bike for her.

Jin-hyuk calls Chan-young, who’s up and about despite his hangover, to tell him about Mush & Co.’s scheduled appearance on Musical Sketchbook. Chan-young is thrilled, until he sees Han-gyul cycling down the beach path with So-rim.

So-rim has her head pressed against Han-gyul’s back and a happy grin pasted on her face. She asks him to sing, and Han-gyul remembers how she described the experience of listening to her mother sing with her ear to her back. He starts singing, but after a few lines, So-rim stops him by saying that it’s too fast.

Han-gyul claims that that’s impossible since he’s a walking metronome, but So-rim tells him that it’s his heartbeat that’s too fast. Han-gyul falls silent, then admits that of course it is — he’s with the girl he likes.

Han-gyul says that So-rim has changed him, and adds that he can no longer hide his feelings. So-rim says that she’s liked him from the very beginning, and likes him even more so now. Han-gyul stops the bike at this and turns to look at her. Her smile falls away as he closes the distance, and their lips touch in a kiss.

 
COMMENTS

I’m not one to gloat, but I’m totally gloating here. You may have gotten the episode with the cute confessions, SailorJumun, but I got the one with the hilarious first date and the kiss! Our “shiny boy” here is sure making all the right moves in this relationship. It’s like Han-gyul said — when he fixates on something, everything else falls away. And right now, he’s focused completely on how to be the best boyfriend to So-rim. It’s perhaps the first time he’s channeling his inner obsessiveness to further his own happiness, and it’s wonderful to see how it makes him smile.

Chan-young, meanwhile, is quickly losing my sympathy. As much as I empathize with his need to belong, I can’t help but dislike his possessive behavior towards So-rim. He’s gone from sulking to deliberately creating impediments in So-rim and Han-gyul’s relationship. Of all people, he would know how hard it is for people to date in his industry, but he thinks nothing of So-rim’s happiness. It was the same with his music. As their producer, he should have wanted Mush & Co. to have the best song for their debut, but it was more important for him to further his own ends. I might feel conflicted about Jin-hyuk, but at least with him, a person knows to be wary. Chan-young’s pettiness hurts more because he makes people want to trust and befriend him.

I’m glad CEO Yoo voiced what I’d been wondering for weeks: Why does Jin-hyuk oscillate between his good guy and bad guy personas so frequently? Commit to your evil, man. Or choose the halo. Between his manipulations, he goes and does something that makes me think that he’s still got a shred of decency left. While his conflicted, ruthless character appeals to me, I want him to finally become the mentor he clearly has the potential to be.

Every time he’s chosen to do good, it’s been the right decision. But the competitiveness that drives him to shoot himself in the foot is beginning to slowly unravel him, along with the band he spent five years propping up. He clearly wants to one-up CEO Yoo in a bid to prove his worth, but that’s a self-destructive path. CEO Yoo has the support of her father and is much more savvy in the industry than he is. Jin-hyuk has to let it go and figure out how to do what’s best for the artists under his protection.

The two other romances in the story finally got some development in this episode. In-woo and CEO Yoo’s story turned out to be more angst-filled than I had expected, but I think Han-gyul is right in thinking that In-woo is sticking around just for her. Whatever kept him away, he seems to finally be ready to give their relationship a go. I find that I really like CEO Yoo when she’s with In-woo, and I’m rooting for them. I also badly want some flashbacks to Shi-hyun’s high school crush on Soo-yeon, because they are utterly adorable together. There’s also a solidity about them that makes me feel that no matter how Shi-hyun’s career as a musician goes, Soo-yeon will always be a pillar of strength for him. The only sad thing is that we don’t get nearly enough of the two on screen.

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*writhes with jealousy* I so wanted the one with the kiss!

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lol, I had my first kiss 15 years ago. I'm not sure I want to relive that.

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I wished I closed my mouth for my first kiss. I had no idea what I was doing, it was a tragic affair.

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lol. I want to forget mine too. It was on a bus. For a bet. yikes.

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Haha, for me I went in for a sweet first kiss and my girlfriend jumped me and I banged my head on the doorframe of her front door.

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Ooh poor you. Haha. At least it means your girlfriend was into you?

My first kiss was decades ago, and it was very much like Sorim's. He leaned slowly in because he knew it was my first kiss, I was quite nervous and tensed and just closed my eyes and the rest is sort of a blur. I just remember opening them feeling dizzy. It was a very gentlemanly kiss, so nothing much, barely more than a peck, but I still felt dizzy. Ah~~ nostalgia.

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@mrchuckles girlfriend? does that mean you're a man? I know your name makes it obvious, but I just had to ask anyway. I'm curious about what makes you like this drama. I love it but I thought it wouldn't be something males would like and they would watch something like Rebel or Tunnel. I want to hear what's the appeal of this drama from a man's perspective if you don't mind.

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Are we sharing first kisses stories?

@Greenlamb Mine was also the gentlemanly kind. It was so short, I barely had time to register that he was kissing me.

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@gokovi - yep, I am a man. I never gave it much thought, but I suppose it is uncommon for guys to like this kind of romantic musical drama. I have always been a sucker for these kinds of dramas. Rom-coms are my favorite. Toss in a great OST (like this one) and I am a lost cause.

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@gokovi

I'm a man, and an old one at that. I'm also enjoying Liar and Lover. It's not my usual type of drama, but I don't mind a good romance when it's good. I've made exceptions to my usual dramas before, like with Weightlifting Fairy or the Reply series. On this one specifically, I like the music-theme, and how cohesive it all seems. The innocent love is also something I don't mind watching, and find it easier to follow, despite its cheesiness, to more dramatic and "makjang" romances in other dramas. I'm also interested in the politics going on in the company.

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Aww @mrchuckles but I bet you went home jumping up in the air like Han-gyeol. Lol.

Since we're sharing first kisses, mine was on a bus, post-confession, and it was the most awkward kiss-peck ever. Lol!

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First kiss when I was 12. I did it in secret or my parents would have killed me. It was just meh, definitely nothing like the dramas' first kisses.

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@gokovi I watch drama for entertainment, so as long as they're entertaining, it doesn't matter which genre, I'll watch. I admit to having a partiality for music, and this drama uses music very well, not just as soundtrack, but also as story. It's rare to see dramas make use of the theme of music so well, which I why I'm enjoying it. And just to be clear, I'm also a man. I don't comment often but I enjoy the drama and recaps.

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another guy reporting here. I don't often watch romance dramas but I like the ones where it's character-focused (as opposed to just romance tropes), and well-written and planned out. Or entertaining. Like Splish splash Love I enjoyed. This one fits both bill. Entertaining and well-written with interesting characters.

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@krahgi That's right. Dramas (or a Walk to Remember) make it seem as if first kisses always feel perfect. They don't. My friends and I shared our first kiss stories and most of the girls said it was awkward. Haha

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@Aedee dramas... giving girls false expectations. My first kiss was pretty okay. He knew what he was doing, and I asked him to do his best. lol.

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also a dude here. I'm not in love with this show, but I enjoy it. The girls are hot, and the story is interesting, especially the band. The music is nice too.

My first kiss was on my gf's bed. I pretended to know what I was doing. I never asked her how it was. We didn't break up on the spot so I assume I did ok.

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I thought I was the only dude watching this. Seems like it's not the case. Maybe we should form a club.

About the appeal of this show. I gave this a chance because of Joy. I like the SM girls. But I've dropped plenty of dramas within the first week even with the girls in it because of how bad the acting/dramas was. This one, I stuck until episode 10 so it must be doing something right. Simply put, it's fun to watch.

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You made me choke on my candy.

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Mine wasn't anything to brag about either. I just stood there doing nothing like a statue. Super awkward ??

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Mine was light years away. I was also a statue at first. Then he coaxed me slowly and I starting learning as I was doing it. No french kissing, thankfully, but I remember liking the lip feeling too much.

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haha, practice makes perfect! ;)

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Aww...we're sharing 1st kisses? Mine was a good 20 or more years ago, I was really surprised cause I wasn't ready. All I knew was he leaned, I was shocked, and I literally ran away. Hahahahahaha! The irony is, the guy was still the best kisser I've ever had since. I was just really not ready for it.

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this would make for a good drama scene <3

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Aww that's really cute! And as @jazmin89 mentioned it makes for a cute drama scene! ?

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Pitiful First Kiss Story #811: Eighth grade, friend's party, in a closet (we were playing the stupid Seven Minutes in Heaven game - never have 7 minutes lasted so long...) I'm just glad it was dark, otherwise I would've died from embarrassment!!!

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Ah... the classic closet story. Mine was the spinning bottle, so not much better.

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Ahahaha! Have always scene those scenes in dramas/movies and I always thought that setting is perfect for a kiss. I guess it can go wrong too ?

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I had mine when I was 7 years old...
It was French....

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The drama gods only favour the worthy!

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Haha you guys are so funny! Thank you both for recapping this wonderful Show! ?

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Wow, festerfaster commented! I wished we could see the recappers' comment be highlighted. I almost missed this one if not for your comment.

And yes, thank you!

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I nearly missed it too. I usually just read the comments, not the name, I totally did not realize goddess-minion-sailorjumun did the first comment. Hahaha. @festerfaster, be careful, if you gloat to much, karma might go back and bite you. Who knows, @SailorJumun could be getting something even better down the line. We have 6 more episodes...

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@verania, according to @beodimel in comment 27, it's very very possible we'll get a deeper kiss in the future. If @festerfaster is not careful, the drama gods will turn on her and @SailorJumun will get the better kiss. Haha

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@Sandi Potter I don't think so, the dramagods in this case have favored @festerfaster by giving her the even episodes. The cliffhangers for even episodes will always be better, because they need to keep the anticipation for a week versus for a day. That means poor @SailorJumun will have to pray really hard to dramagods get that reversed. Time to whip out a candle app.

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@Satinder what if SailorJumun uses the candle app to pray, and GongYoo shows up... hahaha.

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Thank you for you wonderful recaps for this wonderful litltle show @festerfaster and @SailorJumun! You guys are the best! <3

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Hear, hear!

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I love seeing your comments in the thread @SailorJumun and @festerfaster -- thank you very much for your amazing recaps! That and the comments here (plus the BTS and the OSTs and rewatching the episodes) help me get through the looooong wait to Monday! I actually started rewatching MDBC just for Bogummy's uncanny resemblance to Lee Hyun Woo and Joy looking like the adult version of Kim Yoo Jung. ???

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Yes, SUCH a looooooooong wait!! :O

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unnies and oppas! am totally in awe here that first kiss is also a great discussion here in DB. hahaha haven't experienced yet this kind of talk with my friends.. am having a good LOL here while having butterflies.. is that how should i feel? hahahaa..

it's amazing that there are males watching and enjoying this drama. WOW..

DB is indeed a diverse community of KDrama Lovers!! Mansae!

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Yep.. And I just had to spread love, errr, few thumbs up to all the boys of DB!

Yeah ????

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Oh my god it's finally here!!!

This is my favorite episode ever, and I loved the last one.

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We can finally, FINALLY, talk about the kiss and the dates and everything "Oh my god" indeed.

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Let's talk it out! Let's talk about eveeeerythiiing... *shaking in excitement

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YES THE KISS! THE SWEETEST, INNOCENT, MOST ADORABLE KISS IN RECENT DRAMA-LAND! <3

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Yes i havent seen this beautiful first kiss recently that remember of.

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*crashes party* – better late than never, eh?!
I marathoned this in two days, people, two days! And I have two words: friggin’ awesome!

I honestly wasn’t expecting to love it so much, but to my surprise, it turned out to be quite a treat. There may be a few things which dampens the quality of the drama, but on the whole, it’s such a comfortable watch, which is something I’ve been missing from dramaland for quite some time now - that urge to watch the next episode!

At first, I thought it would be your typical rom-com, you know, the fluffy kind with awful character development, but I’m so glad to have been proven wrong. I love that beneath it all, and on the surface, the drama focusses on the crude (heh) reality of the music industry, and yet, still manages to make the central romance equally important and emotionally gratifying.

To be honest, I wasn’t sold on Joy to begin with (I know, I was being pathetically biased), but she’s seriously won me over. The girl is adorable! And I love that she has chemistry with whoever’s on screen with her. She does cry an awful lot, but I appreciate that I’m with her every step of the way when she does – her character makes me believe that she has every reason to cry. (*sigh* if only all high schoolers were as grounded as her in dramaland).

It’s good to be reminded that even though people start out young in the entertainment business, doesn’t mean they’ve become adults. Their early rise to fame forces them to shoulder responsibilities/pressures which one shouldn’t have to at that age.

And Lee Hyun-woo as K fits the bill perfectly. He has me believe he’s a talented music producer with a wealth of experience to boot, but not yet quite mature enough to contend with the manipulative and coercive nature of the entertainment biz. He’s still young, and is clearly learning how to cope. So far, it’s been great to see him grapple with the dog eat dog world, as a “noble idiot” no less, but now that he’s starting to grow emotionally, perhaps we’ll see him take on the system in a way which will not be as emotionally self-destructive. And I have a feeling his own pops will be a guiding factor!! Choi Min-soo is pure <3<3<3 in this!

Having said that, I love that Show isn’t just about camping people into clearly marked territories – every character has their flaws, and rather than making it about the industry as a whole, I appreciate that all the characters come with their own personal struggles. Nicely done! Let’s hope it continues to be this satisfying right till the very end!
P.s. Re ep10 - had no idea that such an innocent lip lock could prove so satisfying! They’re one adorable pairing! Ooh while we’re at it, can we also get Shi-hyun together with his Sunbae? That would be all kinds of adorable!

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Sorry for the long rant, people! Turns out I had a lot to say after watching 10 eps in one, err two sittings!

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We welcome long rants on DB, especially ones which make people smile when they read it. ;) Welcome to Liar and Lover.

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Long rants are welcome! Adorkable ranting is better! ^__^

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*throws you a welcoming party*

Crash it all you want, the more the merrier.

And awesome awesome awesome comment. I wished I could add something to it, but it's all been awesomely worded already. Awesome.

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Lol, why thank you, @newsbff & @sixfoxes. Glad to see this drama being so well received on Dramabeans - it certainly brings out the happy in people!

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It makes so happy that it's well received on Dramabeans, because when I go on kpop blogs and others sites like the comments on Asianwiki, it makes me want to cry. The criticism is savage. They call it boring, awkward, Joy can't act, bad drama, etc.
Going on dramabeans after all that feels like such a breath of fresh air.

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The solution is just to camp here. That way, you don't need to see those hateful comments.

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Seems like those people were not on board with the storytelling. They care more what they want the drama would be instead. And it's sad that they can't see past that coz it's sooo much more. I love every comment on every episode recap coz we see things differently but we agree that this drama is worth the love it's receiving here in DB.

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This is so weird to me. I thought that the show would be particularly popular on sites like that, given the kind of drama it is.

I didn't even notice the popularity on dramabeans until recently, but I'm glad I did because I definitely trust beanies more than the rest of the drama-watching population.

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@Chandler Joy has many people who loves her, which means there are also many people who HATES her, like deep seated hate. Also quite a lot of fans of other girl group hate Red Velvet (the group she's in) so I wouldn't be surprised if they started the negative spreading, and people believe them and sheep mentality and all that.

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I just camp here or soompi forums. That way i know real drama watchers come here not jealous anti-fans and we actually have rational minds.

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this is why i've formed the habit of keeping quiet about my love for tlahl. i just lurk. Because people around me keep talking bad about if when they stopped watching it in the early episodes.

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Where's the champagne?

I want to get drunk and have a party with Crude Play. *delusional*

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tsk tsk you can't get drunk already, the party just started (well, if 90 comments is just starting...)

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I loooooove your comment. Glad you joined the Liar and Lover's lovers club.

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Haha! I've been infinitely happier in dramaland ever since crashing this party last week. I had caught up with 8 episodes in one night, lol! This drama is truly the surprise of the year for me.

It's impressed me so much in certain moments that I went back to rewatch from the beginning and noticed so many details that hinted at the complexity of the characters and their relationships. I don't know why, but I didn't really sit up and take notice of the surprising amount of thought put into the drama until towards the end of episode 2.

Love what you said about Lee Hyun-woo as K. Some may find him too baby-faced to be very convincing as an adult, but I think that's kind of the point. He IS young because he entered the industry without getting the chance to grow up normally and I think it very fitting that he still feels a bit like a kid thrown into an adult world. Especially because, in the Korean entertainment industry especially, it often feels like those who want to be successful have to sacrifice essential aspects of their youth. I think he was very well-cast for this role.

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I agree, rewatching this drama while waiting for the next episode allowed to see many details I've missed before. hints about future character development.

Yes, I don't see a problem with HG looking and being young. It might be different from the manga, but it fits the story and korean setting well.

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This episode was simply so very sweet. So worth the angst to get here. Sweet rewards. I'm as giddy as these two. How does every episode just get better and better? Keep em coming show.?

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So true!! Early on, I wasn't sure if I was going to stick around for the rest of the series. But I'm so glad I did! This week had to be the best week yet!

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Okay, you know what? Everyone in this drama has character depth except for that damned Lee Sejeong. Can she just...disappear...somewhere really far away?...

AND KYUSUN, CHILD...
YOU ? HAVE ? TO ? STOP ? LEAVING ? YOUR ? PHONE ? AROUND

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How much did I love it that he called her out on stealing his phone? His love blindness is going away....

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If only she was dumped right then and there, I would love it even more. But sadly she has to be there for the greater bad. -___-

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I didn't heed another Beanies' advice and read the comments while I was out in public. And then I saw yours and guffawed.

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I agree. I don't know why we need to waste screen time on Sujeong.
Gyusun has woken up..i think. I would like to see him be a double agent and take down Sujeong on her spying. Girl need to be taught a lesson.

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EXACTLY. Every time Kyusun left his phone on the table I internally screamed at him. Or maybe it's because my phone is literally an extension of my arm and it never leaves my side, LOL!

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Haha!!!

To be fair, this time it felt like he was testing her and I enjoyed how firm he was about catching her in the act. I still hope he'll be able to process eventually and put a stop to this.

Personally, I feel really bad for the guy. I'm less upset over whatever she's trying to do with the band than I am over her using him.

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Gyusun is such a good man/boy. He was very nice and minimized her embarrassment, but still was quite firm about it.

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Gyusun leaves his phone lying around like everyone in Whisper leaves their security code cards. Smh...

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It's been proven that Crude Play gets along as long as there's alcohol in their systems, so they really should just be drinking all the time. "Now that Kang Han Gyul is gone, shall we begin the real drinking?" Drunk Crude Play is so much fun! And Soo Yeon being able to hold her liquor is very attractive. I appreciate how this story connects. In Episode 7, we learned Shi Hyun, Yoon, and In Ho are lightweights, and today as we can see, only Han Gyul and Chan Young are not hungover.

So much for Han Gyul's "Let's not tell anyone for the time being." That lasted all of twenty seconds. I do believe it's Soo Yeon's job to tell Jin Hyuk, though, so their company can be prepared for a potential scandal. It was precious how So Rim tripped at the top of the stairs when she hurried to meet Han Gyul (which was probably an NG they decided to leave in there).

Crude Play's prank on Chan Young in order to invite themselves to Mush & Co.'s MT was gold. So Rim looked adorable when she quickly buried her face back in her hands to continue fake-crying as soon as Chan Young turned back around to look at her. Excited Han Gyul falling down when his headphones got caught was priceless. I loved dodgeball and personally was glad So Rim was paired up with Gyu Sun. Thank goodness Soo Yeon came! "Except for Shi Hyun-ssi." "Let's just lose quickly." "Whatever you say." /flailing Just date already, you two! Aww at Shi Hyun volunteering to be Soo Yeon's black knight. It was such a nice touch to see their wet clothes hanging up on the gazebo to dry.

Yes, Gyu Sun finally found out about conniving Se Jung stealing his phone! Break up with that fox right this instance! Did the drama omit the part from the manga where the only reason Han Gyul plays the bass is because his father accidentally bought him a bass thinking it was a guitar? Otherwise, why would In Woo have made that mistake when he is a session musician himself? I'm not at all invested in In Woo and Han Yoo Seok's feud. But imagine CEO Yoo as Han Gyul's stepmother. ?

K undeniably has the Midas touch. I love the swing rhythm of Counting Stars. I'm so happy for Yoo Na and Han Gyul for charting at #1. On the other hand, I feel sorry for Mush & Co. and Chan Young's falling off the charts. Chan Young walking around like a kicked puppy was depressing. His promise to Mush & Co. to work harder and write better songs for the next three years sounded so apologetic and sincere. He really is only happy with Mush & Co.

Our list of still unreleased tracks:
1) Crude Play "In Your Eyes"
2) Mush & Co. "Waiting For You"
3) Chae Yoo Na "Counting Stars"
I'm annoyed that Shiny Boy was attributed to Joy and not Mush & Co.

Thanks a bunch for the recap, @festerfaster!

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True that! I also loved when Gyulie totally tripped when he ran for it with his headphones still on! yes the swing rhythm of Yuna's song is SUPER catchy! I want that song RIGHT NOWWW!!! :D

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HG was soooo adorable in this ep! But seriously, who are they kidding? Everyone knows about them. EVERYONE.

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Yes, I love seeing Crude Play drunk together and would want to see that all the time but Han Gyul might die.

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Or drinking regularly would help increase Han Gyul's alcohol tolerance.

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I'm betting So Rim has better alcohol tolerance. He can just cook the hangover food.

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Him having Gender Equality on his shirt in the kitchen scene, totally cracked me up. Who is he kidding? He is gonna end up cooking all the time. ?

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This is my story too. I always stand up to go somewhere, and get jerked back because of my headphones.

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You're right! He really provides quite a bit of comedy for the show when given the chance. Especially this episode! The headphones scene was priceless. Not to mention, adorable. He was so eager, hehe.

I remember he had another funny scene with the Crude Play boys in the beginning...oh! When he was looking for her school uniform! The delivery in that scene was great.

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Physical comedy is not something everyone can do, but he does it well.

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I'd love to have Lee Hyun Woo's version of "waiting for you" as well. He's not the best singer material in the drama, but I feel there's more raw emotions if Han Gyul is the one singing the song. They probably can release 2 versions like "i'm okay". That'd be perfect!

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He's an actor, and according to King of Masked singers, actors sings with great emotions. ;_)

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At one point in episode 9, the ost in the background was him singing "I'm Okay" and I really loved how it sounded with the snapping and acoustic guitar. I kind of wish they would release that version too...

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I really love Soo Yeon (what a supportive sunbae) and was so happy to see her and Shin Hyun have the chance to be all flirty at the retreat. (Props to SH by the way for salvaging the first date; I totally think SH and SY talk about it in secret).

And some thoughts on the first kiss. The almost kiss in the telephone booth was hotter and filled with more tension, but to be fair, they're on a bike and it's SR's first kiss. But it also convinced me that it might be HG's maybe second kiss ever (he flails around like a muppet too often when he doesn't know how to deal with SR).

I saw those previews, Show, and Grandma better not die of a heart attack after her adorable date with SR.

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Same, I love Soo-yeon so much. When she gave So-rim her phone so she could take Han-gyul's call I was so happy. I want her to be happy with Si-hyun, they looked so cute during the dodgeball game. And I agree, show better not kill of Grams because I don't want this show to go there.
Damn, also, I would like to slap Chan-young into freaking next week if he keeps butting in where he doesn't belong. Keep your angst within Crude Play and away from my OTP.

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I was afraid that Soo-yeon's character will go the way of her manga counterpart, who (while nice) was jealous of So-rim's relationship with Han-gyul. But yay for good unnis! And now they have to give us a proper kiss with her and Shi-hyun. Phew, so hot.

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Yes to this?! I so want the kiss scene between SY and SH to happen. Even their interactions are so hot, how can their kiss scene not be!

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Yes, just please. Can we get one? They are both very much adults and we got one between Yoona and Jin-hyuk. Ahhh, I just need this to happen!

Maybe SailorJumun will get that one? :P

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This is where low ratings could help. They need kiss scenes to boost ratings.

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^an important correction here!

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Oh yes and thank you for the recap @festerfaster!

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Hmm. I might have to amend that statement about that being HG's second kiss. His fingers were way too nimble untying that hoodie. He's just such a lovable dork though!

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That scene made me feel some type of way, and I was already squeeing as it is. It reminded me of the scene in Heirs where Tan unties Eun-sang's apron and lets her hair out of the ribbon she was wearing.

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Absolutely not his second. He is not that novice. He dated a lot in the past. He even with yoona for a good mount of time.

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I'd like to think he went easy out of consideration for her. He probably made a resolve to not go too much, but she was so cute he couldn't resist and turned around to kiss her. That, or I'm writing a fanfic.

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Lol @ fanfic. I want to write a fan fic too with the other two Crude Play in their own rom-com because, aww, they still have to find their own So-rims and Soo-yeons.

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Or...erm...maybe he's aware she's still a minor in high school and he's an adult man? Sad to see this behavior seems to have become normalized in kdramalamd. A couple of years ago it was considered to be highly concerning. That's progress in the wrong direction.

Never in my viewing years have I wanted a short time jump like I wanted for this drama. Or they could have given us so many placeholder kisses with other characters, while we waited for her to come of age.

Unless they show it was part of a dream or imagination, I sadly don't think I can see the show with the same amount of blind love that I've had up 'til now. ?

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I know there was the kiss and all, but my favorite part was actually when YN went to rub her #1 song in SR's face with CY listening in. And she totally held her ground and lifted CY's sinking ship. I loved all the parts where Mush & Co were supporting their producer.

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Yes I love that she did that even when she didn't know he was there. And I just want to see Mush&Co and Crude Play hang out all the time cause Chan Young totally loves it!

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Her loyalty and self-assuredness are some of the things I love about So-rim other than the fact that my love for her and by extension, Joy grows exponentially with every passing scene. I also love how she says what is on her mind and her innocent devotion to Han-gyul brings me so much joy. It could have devolved into a cringe-fest but it doesn't. How does she do that?

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I love your name. =D

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YES! I love how Sorim-i is upfront about everything! And that was mean of Yoona. And I'm so glad that Chan Young is getting flak for that song!

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I love when Chan Young thought Crude Play was bullying Mush & Co. (pfft), he first pulled Jin Woo and Gyu Sun up to leave. See, he doesn't only care about So Rim! He cares about all three of the Mush & Cos.! Their tense group lunch yesterday when every Mush & Co. member offered their producer food was cute, too.

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I want CY to notice that his band mates were jealous and totally wanted to go on a retreat with him. They love you too you fool!

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Yeah, but sometimes, years and years of ignorance can get in the way. :( I just want all of them to have a looooong chat about what really happened all those years ago... :(

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This is true. But he really enjoyed himself at the retreat. Even going on about "really drinking" with the Crude Play boys even though HG was already two sheets to the wind and unable to go on moonlit walks on the beach.

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And did you see how the way they said "Our magnae has grown" in such a proud way when Chanyoung talked about being a team of 5? He's their magnae after all, he must get doting privilege.

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YES. I wanted to set aside some time to really write about this moment because I was just so impressed with her character in that scene.

So-rim is not afraid to be seen at a disadvantage or admit her weaknesses because she is astute enough to know why she feels the way she does and brave enough to admit it. She recognizes that it's okay to experience emotions like jealousy as long as you don't let it dictate your actions.

So she simply told Yoona exactly why her personal feelings kept her from listening to the song and completely shot down the notion that she was jealous of her song's success. Because how could she be when their song is plenty to be proud of :)

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So-rim is not afraid to be seen at a disadvantage or admit her weaknesses because she is astute enough to know why she feels the way she does and brave enough to admit it. She recognizes that it's okay to experience emotions like jealousy as long as you don't let it dictate your actions.

So perfectly put I had to quote it again. Haha.

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Is it weird that I love how he has his eyes still open and their lips are juuuust this close?

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I'm actually more focused on the fact that he's leaning on her and she's clenching her fist.
It's such a heart-fluttering moment.

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Uh, all I saw was where his arm was rested. *hides*

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@naomi you pervy tsk tsk. Where is your head headed....

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@Satinder look where their body touches.

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Lol. And at least in this, there was no eyes-wide-lips-tightly-closed kiss (hello, Park Shin-hye). Thank you PD-nim!

PS. What I do notice in this picture is how awkwardly Han-gyeol's hips are tilted to one side so he can finally get that first kiss. Tee-hee!

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Yes Park Shin Hye kisses. I always forgive becoz she is such a good actress that i love. I love her basement kiss with Lee Min Ho thought. That girl tasted what true kiss tastes and feels like. Look her red face and she was ready to fall if she wasnt hugging Lee Min Ho at that moment.

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It's not weird. I always love how the man give a tiny measured look before going in for the kills. Not sure why, but it's hot.

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It's an amazing pic! I love their matching outfits and I love the green background! Awesome shot of an awesome couple! <3

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I didn't even notice this before, but their clothes are MATCHING!!!!

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I noticed it as soon as she showed up in that pink dress. i was like hey, pink top for both!

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Ahahaha YES, they're matching! They always do this pink/blue matchy-matchy thing with Hangyul's and Sorim's clothes once in a while :D I love it!

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I want it!!!

You don't mind if I also use it as my background do you?

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