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The Liar and His Lover: Episode 11

Though our two lovebirds have comfortably fallen into their new romance, tensions are still running high as Mush & Co. try to secure their own place in show biz. Unfortunately, they weren’t entirely prepared for what would happen after stepping into the spotlight. It’s a cutthroat business out there and, as they’ll learn from their sunbaes, you just have to find a way to trudge through it all. But what happens when it becomes far too much to handle?

 
EPISODE 11 RECAP

After Han-gyul admits how much he likes her, So-rim smiles against his back, saying that she liked him from the start and likes him even more now. That makes Han-gyul stop the bike as he gently takes her hand and turns around to face her. And then, ah, that kiss. Not gonna lie – I squealed louder than I should have.

So-rim quietly enters the house and tiptoes her way to her room, but she jumps to see Jin-woo waiting in the living room. He narrows his eyes and questions why she was out so early when everyone else peeks their heads from their rooms. (Whoa, hold up – did Shi-hyun just come out of Soo-yeon’s room?)

So-rim insists that she was taking a walk by herself just as Han-gyul comes waltzing in, and the others smile suspiciously. And then Chan-young waltzes in, which just confuses everybody. The three lie that they all took separate walks.

Crude Play and Mush & Co. pack their things and head to the cars to return home. Before Han-gyul can lead So-rim to his van, Chan-young glares at the smiling couple and grabs So-rim’s hand.

He pulls her away from Han-gyul and says that he has to talk to his band on the way back. So Han-gyul and So-rim reluctantly go separate ways.

It only takes about a minute in the van for the boys to start accusing Han-gyul of being with So-rim that morning, which he fervently denies. Instead, he turns it around to Shi-hyun and Soo-yeon, questioning how close they’ve been acting lately. Shi-hyun denies that just as hard, heh.

At the same time, Jin-woo is accusing So-rim of walking with Han-gyul. So-rim clams up, so Chan-young jumps in and says he saw So-rim actually walking alone. That pleases Jin-woo, though So-rim stares at Chan-young, surprised by his save.

Jin-hyuk and Yoo-na attend a meeting to discuss the Music Sketchbook lineup, though Jin-hyuk is hardly listening. He thinks back to his conversation with In-woo, who had rejected his offer of publicizing his stolen songs: “Because someone will get hurt.”

After the meeting, Yoo-na asks if Jin-hyuk is spacing out because of what CEO Yoo proposed. She reassures him that she would never leave Sole since she feels so at home here. He wonders if that’s thanks to Han-gyul, and she answers that it’s thanks to Jin-hyuk for recruiting Han-gyul in the first place. Jin-hyuk mutters, almost to himself, that he’s no longer sure if he brought Han-gyul in or if Han-gyul tumbled in on his own.

CEO Yoo meets with In-woo to see if he’s thought about putting out an album with her. He doesn’t think his music will sell, but Yoo tells him to let her worry about that. She’s sure she can make it happen since she also likes In-woo’s music. With a smile, he gives her the okay.

Jin-woo and Gyu-sun scurry home, but So-rim hangs back to ask Chan-young if he saw her Han-gyul this morning. He cuts her off and says they should hang out for a while longer. He leads her over to a railing to admire the view, sighing that he doesn’t get much leisure time like this.

He says that in exchange for achieving a position people work so hard for, they have to give up the simpler things normal people get to have. “People always want what they can’t have,” he concludes as he looks at her.

With a strained smile, Chan-young asks if she’s dating Han-gyul. She gives a shy little nod and apologizes – she couldn’t heed Jin-hyuk’s orders because she liked Han-gyul too much. His voice now hard, he asks why she had to like Han-gyul of all people. She apologizes again, thinking he’s upset that she lied, but he just waves it off.

He assures her (or himself, really) that it’s okay since her relationship with Han-gyul doesn’t change the fact that Mush & Co. is his band. He reminds her of their three-year promise and shows some relief when she nods.

Once So-rim gets home, she gets a call from Han-gyul (who’d been saving pictures of her from the trip while waiting, hee). She says that she got home late since she was talking to Chan-young, though she doesn’t divulge about what since he’d asked her not to tell Han-gyul that he knew about them.

To her surprise, Han-gyul doesn’t pry her for more answers. He sweetly says that he’ll only listen to her and trust what she says. Then he goes on to say that he’s totally getting his driver’s license so that she doesn’t have to ride with Chan-young anymore. Ha! He may be trusting, but his jealousy is still strong.

Gyu-sun excitedly tells Se-jung about his trip, handing over his phone to show her pictures. But when he bends down to tie his shoe, he doesn’t see her quickly find the code to hack into his new phone.

She returns to her computer to access the rest of his photos, and she’s thrown off to see Han-gyul included in them. She recalls him being the boy So-rim seemed so close with and wonders if he’s the band’s manager.

Se-jung travels over to Sole the next day, just in time to catch Han-gyul buying snacks for the Mush & Co. trio. Gyu-sun waves her over, though as he talks to her, she strains her neck to get a better look at So-rim’s mystery boy. Gyu-sun calls out Chan-young’s name as he arrives, snapping Se-jung back into focus.

As they all head back inside, Se-jung can’t help but notice Chan-young doting on So-rim, making her mouth form an irritated frown. She at least hangs back while the rest of them go to the practice room. Han-gyul tries to follow them in, but Chan-young quickly shuts the door and urges him to go on his merry way.

Chan-young knows Han-gyul just wants to hear So-rim sing, and he suggests that Han-gyul stop being so greedy. He heads inside, making sure to wave Han-gyul off through the window.

Han-gyul almost goes in after him, but seeing Chan-young’s smile as he overlooks the band performing stops him. Han-gyul turns on his heel, cursing under his breath.

So-rim comes into school the next day to discover that photos of her and Chan-young have surfaced online, along with rumors of them dating. Se-jung angrily confronts So-rim about this, demanding to know why she’s messing around when she already has a boyfriend. So-rim rightfully says it has nothing to do with her and hurries off to meet with Soo-yeon.

Se-jung watches her go and then pulls out her phone to log into her Twitter account. Ah, crap.

Soo-yeon assembles the trio to settle the matter, and though So-rim is afraid she’s just ruined their image, Soo-yeon assures her that the company will take care of it. But when So-rim goes off alone to read the online comments, she’s shaken to see all the angry remarks from Chan-young’s fans.

A hand shoots out and grabs her phone, and she looks up to see Han-gyul. He half-jokes that she should be looking at him instead of her phone, but she just asks if he’s mad about the rumor. He takes her hand and reminds her that he only trusts in what she says. However, he does warn her that these kind of incidents will happen again and that she’ll most likely get hurt.

“So just trust in my words and listen to me,” he says. “You’ll do that, right?” So-rim nods with a smile. From afar, Yoo-na watches this exchange with a dejected look.

Jin-hyuk calls Chan-young in to inform him that they’ve handled the rumor. Just to make sure, he asks if he and So-rim really have no special relationship. Chan-young confirms that they don’t. “Not with me,” he mutters, which Jin-hyuk notes.

Soon after, there’s another rumor quickly spreading online. Se-jung had posted all of Gyu-sun’s photos from the trip, claiming that Han-gyul is So-rim’s real boyfriend. And now everyone thinks So-rim is a two-timer.

Jin-hyuk and his team can’t figure out how all those personal photos got leaked (Se-jung posted with a private account), but they immediately take action, changing their passwords and making sure to protect Han-gyul’s identity. But there’s one more problem: among the photos, there was a video of In-ho playing the drums.

Gyu-sun admits to Soo-yeon that he did take the video as well as all the photos, but he never showed it to anyone outside of Mush & Co.’s chatroom. Assuming his phone must’ve gotten hacked, they check to see the PC that it’s connected to. Gyu-sun laughs dryly, clearly recognizing the username. Gyu-sun tries to rush out on his own, but So-rim and Jin-woo insist that this concerns all of them.

They call Se-jung out to the school that night and confront her about the account. Se-jung tries to play dumb, but So-rim tells her not to lie anymore. She understands that Se-jung hates her but thinks that hurting their band just to hurt her is wrong. When Se-jung still won’t fess up, Gyu-sun steps forward and reveals that he knows she likes Chan-young. “That’s why you hate us, right?” he says.

Se-jung completely breaks and yells that they’re all so annoying – why do they get to have it all when they don’t even study or work hard? Why do they get to be close to Chan-young? “So what is it that you want?” a familiar voice says from behind.

Se-jung recognizes it as Chan-young’s, but she’s too scared to turn around. She tries to escape, but Chan-young demands that she look him in the eye. She slowly turns around, but she can barely look at him before running away.

Gyu-sun goes after her and grabs her arm, but she pushes him away and yells that she never liked him. Gyu-sun says that he knows – but still, he wants to stay with her. So when she bursts into tears, he just takes her in his arms. Oy… He really is too sweet for his own good.

Jin-hyuk rounds up Mush & Co., Han-gyul, and Chan-young, amazed that they’ve all gotten themselves into this mess. He tells Soo-yeon to confiscate the band’s phones and to have them placed in a dorm where they can be watched. He then asks to speak with Han-gyul and Chan-young alone.

He firmly states that the two are no longer allowed to see So-rim. They try to argue, but Jin-hyuk throws back that they handled this all wrong – Chan-young shouldn’t have been so careless in public and Han-gyul shouldn’t have made his relationship with So-rim so obvious.

Grandma is horrified to see So-rim getting so much negative attention on the entertainment news, though she quickly shuts it off when So-rim arrives. So-rim keeps a smile on her face, though she reports sadly that she’ll have to move out for a while.

Since So-rim has to leave tomorrow, she and Grandma get right to packing. A thought strikes her, and So-rim lies her head in Grandma’s lap, suggesting that they go out on a little date before she takes off for the dorms.

At home, Han-gyul listens to So-rim’s track of “I’m Okay,” happily scrolling through her pictures. In-woo sneaks up on him and asks what he’s looking at, making him jump. In-woo wants in on the happy train and asks that he let him listen to the song. Han-gyul hesitates before saying he can only listen if he doesn’t make any comments.

In-woo doesn’t see why not, so Han-gyul explains that it’s because his dad isn’t just anyone. He admits that he’s grateful to his mom for making him so different from In-woo.

But to Han-gyul’s annoyance, when it comes to the most important thing – music – they couldn’t be more alike.

“Gyul-ah, I think differently,” In-woo says, walking over to Han-gyul’s poster of his K persona. “It’s fine if you resemble me in other ways, but I really hope you don’t resemble me when it comes to that important thing.” Once In-woo leaves him alone, Han-gyul finds himself staring at his K poster as well, his eyes heavy with emotion.

Now all packed, So-rim pulls out her beloved Jeje for some comfort. She tells Jeje that it’s tough with everyone criticizing her and then mumbles that she misses her mother. As she rests her head on her pillow, a tear escapes her eye.

The next day, So-rim takes Grandma out to have some fun in town. They have a blast playing games and eating street food, but when So-rim runs off to grab some change for a crane machine, she gets noticed by some students.

The students don’t even try to keep their voices down as they laugh at the supposed singer who’s two-timing Seo Chan-young. Each word is hit after hit for her, and at a certain point, their voices seem to fade. So-rim’s hand shakes as she turns to look back at Grandma, who definitely heard the whole thing.

So-rim immediately pulls Grandma out, but Grandma stops her, saying she left her phone inside. She tells So-rim to stay put and heads back, marching right up to the mean students. She demands to know if their parents raised them to speak so harshly, but they just dismiss her and walk away.

Grandma turns around to find So-rim, who’s mad that she confronted them when she should’ve just let it go. Grandma tries to apologize, but So-rim runs off into the crowd, leaving Grandma behind, struggling for breath. Oh no! Please don’t be sick!

Thinking better of it, So-rim runs right back to Grandma and pulls her into a tight back hug. She cries that she’s sorry and that she was just upset. Grandma turns her around and assures her that it’s okay to cry or get angry in front of her.

Once So-rim is calmed down, Grandma sends her off with Jin-woo and Gyu-sun, watching them run off together like the three dorks they still are. In their new dorm, Gyu-sun nudges Jin-woo, telling him to go for it with So-rim since Han-gyul won’t be around.

Jin-woo is surprised, since he thought Gyu-sun liked Han-gyul. Gyu-sun does, but he says that Jin-woo is his friend, so of course he’d root for him. Jin-woo beams and high-fives him. And then he hilariously leans against the doorway and asks So-rim if she needs any help. Oh boy. This should be fun.

Jin-hyuk visits CEO Yoo to apologize for the recent scandal, though Yoo just finds it amusing. She tells him that she’ll be keeping a close eye on So-rim during the Music Sketchbook performance, making him uneasy. Meanwhile, So-rim’s grandma starts feeling woozy as she works outside and collapses on the street.

Jin-hyuk finds Chan-young next and asks if he has any other songs besides “Shiny Boy.” Chan-young is offended, but Jin-hyuk says that the song has already dropped off the charts and that they need to give Mush & Co. a boost.

Chan-young retorts that he knows what Jin-hyuk is thinking, but he won’t back down. Before Jin-hyuk can answer, Soo-yeon bursts in with news of So-rim’s grandma. So-rim rushes to the hospital, her friends and Chan-young close behind. According to the doctor, Grandma fainted from shock and exhaustion, but thankfully, she’ll be fine after a day of rest.

Soo-yeon sends Jin-woo and Gyu-sun home and then makes sure to text Han-gyul the situation. Chan-young, however, stays with So-rim in the hospital room. He watches her face, telling her it’s okay to cry at a time like this. So-rim looks down at her sleeping grandma and says that strangely, she can’t bring herself to cry. She wonders if it’s because she’s too scared.

Chan-young places a comforting hand over So-rim’s and notes that she feels cold. He goes out to get her a warm drink just as Han-gyul runs into the hospital and locates Grandma’s room.

So-rim is shocked to find Han-gyul suddenly standing in front of her and she barely gets out his name before her face crumples in tears. He doesn’t say a word – he just pulls her into a tight embrace and lets her cry.

Behind them, Chan-young slides the door open, only to slide it closed after seeing the two together.

Han-gyul stays with So-rim all day, holding her hand until she falls asleep by Grandma’s side. He untangles their hands and places a blanket over her before heading out, where he finds Chan-young sitting in the hallway.

Han-gyul tells Chan-young to go on home since he’ll be staying with So-rim, and Chan-young practically rolls his eyes. He wonders why Han-gyul should care if he worries about So-rim, to which Han-gyul responds that he has every right to care: “Tell me. Who are you worried about? Your singer? Or Yoon So-rim?”

He promises not to interfere with Mush & Co., so he wants Chan-young to promise not to interfere with his relationship with So-rim. Chan-young heaves a big sigh and stands up to face Han-gyul, asking why he should do that when Han-gyul has already messed up everything else for him.

 
COMMENTS

Chan-young, I like you – I really do – but you’re making it harder and harder for me to want to defend you and your increasingly unreasonable actions. In fact, I find it ironic that Chan-young is always warning Han-gyul to keep his personal feelings out of business matters when Chan-young is doing the exact same thing. His determination to keep Mush & Co. as his band with only his songs and his guidance hinders the trio’s chances of growing as musicians. It was nice to see him excited to have something apart from Crude Play, but he’s almost acting like a child who refuses to share his toys. And that just bothers me – that he views this group as a shiny new toy that Han-gyul can’t have.

But now that he knows that Han-gyul has officially “stolen” So-rim away from him, he’s only gotten more obsessive and territorial. It’s clear that he does like So-rim as a person (it’s hard not to love her), but I honestly believe that if he liked her on a deeper level – like Han-gyul and her friends do – he would find a way to be fine as long as he could see that she was happy. That’s the one thing I can appreciate about the noble idiocy trope. A noble idiot will step back if they believe the one they love will be happier without them or, in certain circumstances, with someone else. In retrospect, it may be stupid, hence the “idiocy,” but we often tolerate it because it’s still a rather sweet and selfless act.

Thankfully, Han-gyul eventually understood that he made So-rim happy and rightfully took advantage of that. Then we have Chan-young, who, lately, only seems annoyed with her happiness because it doesn’t include him. Or more specifically, because it includes the one person he can’t stand. And that way of thinking is just unfair of him. For one, Han-gyul does have the right to be greedy. He’s So-rim’s boyfriend now, and after spending so much time repressing his feelings, I’d say he’s earned his right to be a little greedy with her.

Chan-young’s one saving grace in this episode was telling Se-jung off. Being a top idol, I’m sure he’s had his fair share of sasaeng ordeals because he really put that girl in her place. The way I see it, there are adoring fans and then there are straight up obsessive fans. Referring back to my point earlier, Se-jung falls into the second category simply because she disregards her idol’s happiness. That possessive quality that sasaengs carry only shows that they’re in love with the concept of their idol, not the actual idol. Let that sink in, Chan-young – I just compared you to Se-jung. I want to hate Chan-young’s character like so much, but like Gyu-sun did for Se-jung, I just get the urge to hug him. He seems to be getting more desperate with every episode, and I fear that if he doesn’t let up, he may truly ruin himself.

But it was So-rim who really needed a hug (and thank goodness she got one). She’d been warned time and time again about the negatives that come with celebrity life, but she couldn’t quite understand what that was like until she was living it. Becoming an entertainer means putting your name and face – your entire life – out there for the world to see. And just as Han-gyul said, it can be brutal. Crude Play has been in the business for years and it still gets to them. Heck, the pressure even gets to be too much for the supposedly suave Jin-hyuk, as we’ve seen when he’s in the presence of CEO Yoo. So I can only imagine how tough it is for a couple of newbies like Mush & Co.

Amidst all the pain and suffering of our favorite puppies, I was surprisingly pleased with how easily Han-gyul stepped into his new role as So-rim’s boyfriend. He’s proving to be a great support system by showing so much trust and in turn, asking her to trust that in the end, everything will be okay. When he says things like that, it’s hard not to believe in them. Just don’t take Grandma away from So-rim, Show. That’s where I draw the line.

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Woohoooo its here! And I am on time to catch it!! Double yay!!

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@sailorjumun Thanks for the recap
Also, this is exactly what I feel too-

I want to hate Chan-young’s character like so much, but like Gyu-sun did for Se-jung, I just get the urge to hug him.

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And you're first too. lol.

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I know! I am so surprised by this! I was literally the last one in ep 10 recap! Lucky for me that the recap was posted right at the moment I opened the DB page! :D

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It's like I can never tell when these recaps are going to drop off. The hours are always different each time.

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Different time and add to that different timezones...my god i refresh it sooo many times only to find that there are 400 comments already!

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@sungjong Thank god we are still in 130s zone for this recap.. Soon, we will be in 400s :P

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@sungjong @obsessedmuch I don't think the comments are going to surpass 300. They'll reach 300 at most. I've been lurking from the beginning, and the usual comment counts for this is usually in the 200 range. People got crazy excited last week because of the kiss and confession. I don't expect the comments to reach those kinds of number again any time soon. I mean, that's like Strong Woman/Moonlight numbers.

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@satinder Understandable... I was just very excited to see so many comments last week! The comment thread which was usually too full was Moonlovers! now 800 comments for each episode was a lil too much! :P

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@sungjong about timezones, at this time most of Asia is asleep, so perhaps there will be a surge of comments when they wake up? I don't know if this drama is popular in other countries. I know a lot of taiwanese friends like it.

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A good way to know when they come is to look at the footer where you can see what the next recap will be. Though I'm one to talk, being 300+ comments late.

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Well, we're already on DB's front page, as the top post in "Most commented" section. So not shabby at all for an underdog drama.

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@obsessedmuch My limit is usually 600 comments. By then, I give up on reading.

@Satinder If you compare the number of comments here to SWDBS, we might actually be similar. A bit surprising but it makes me happy.

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We should do a "first to comment" meme! lol

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Someone already did it! I don't remember who!

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Went back and checked who did it- it was @ally-le

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First one! I got lateee! :(

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Hehehe... It's alright... if I know you, you would still be here till the last comment so it doesn't matter that you were late :D

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I'm nothing if not doggedly persistent! :D

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Good for you ;)

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I love how we're both lurking :D

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I know! Can't seem to go away from this thread and sleep! :P
And I am literally not doing anything else... just refreshing the page for new comments!

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Yay! Thank you for the recap! I've been waiting all week, hehe. This show grows on me more every week.

Random points: Mush&Co's friendship gives me cute butterflies. The 2 guys helping her carry her luggages, and then KS egging JW to take his chances with SR in the dorm because he thinks JW is the best? Their friendship is adorable and precious. Also, SY's such a gem - she genuinely cares for them, and she also calls HG at the hospital because she knows he has a right to know. Two thumbs up for SY!

On Chanyoung: "Why HG of all people?" - this irks me because it just seems that CY views SR/Mush&Co as a trophy that he's competing with HG to win. It could be anybody that SR liked (Eg. JW), so long as it's not Hangyul. I've practically lost all empathy for CY. I still understand his motivations. But I think there's a fine line between understanding and empathizing, and justifying everything he does just because I understand how he feels. So nope, CY's out of my good books for now. He doesn't like her so much as he likes the idea of using her to show that he won HG in something.

He asks why he can't stand in HG's way when HG's always stood in his way (don't play the victim card anymore, CY, when you're all victims in this industry) - it tells me that he's doing all this to get back at HG. I mean, yes, he does have the right to step in between HG and SR, but do you want to be that guy, CY? The one who steps between 2 people who are perfectly happy together and tries to tear them apart, just because?

Honestly, I always say in my comments on other recaps (like M2M and SWDBS) that we shouldn't give characters so much flak because they're human too and not expected to be perfect, so I wonder if I'm being too harsh on CY just because I don't like him as much as I liked characters in those other shows. Am I being biased? I've been understanding of CY and justifying his actions but this episode seemed to cross a line for me.

On SR/Grandma: I think it's horrible that they have to face the harsh reality of being a celebrity so early on, and especially more so because of SJ. That makes me so mad. Those high schoolers who said "she's a celebrity, get used to it or quit"? It just makes me sad that that's how the reality is. Audience think that it's ok to trash a celebrity just because they put themselves on the public stage to be seen, with the view that "they should be expecting it", but they forget that celebrities are all human too. Whenever I see people leaving nasty comments about how they hate the actor/actress... I wonder if it gives them some sort of vindictive pleasure to put the celebrity down. I can imagine how painful it must have been for Grandma, who lived her life thinking of SR as the best.

On Han Gyul: For all his acclaim as a composing genius, I find that HG is still the insecure little boy who looked up to his father's music - which is why he...

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I am so with you on the lovely friendship between the trio of Mush & Co. They are all lovely together!

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Even the Crude Play members...they are lovely together....The drummer (In Ho?) especially...They are constantly trying to placate both Chan Young and Hang Gyul and so hardworking...oKay Sunbae and Shin, you need to be together

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True! This show is seriously #friendshipgoals <3

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yes, yes, and yes!

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Yes, I totally love that they do that! InHo is great and I wish ChanYoung would give his hyungs at least a fair chance... :(

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Yes! I love how JinWoo's entire face just totally LIT UP when KyuSun told him how he supported him! Just <3.

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Yeah, but brother has to know he has no chance. It is painful to watch Jin Woo flail about.

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But in other dramas, it's usually the best friend who gets the girl in the end. The girl likes some other cooler guy, and in the end, she realizes he's wrong for her, and it's the best friend who is right for her. Haha.

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Is it wrong that this noona loves his flailing? :3

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I suspect Soo Yeon is secretly enjoying it too.

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Ahhh my novel of a comment got cut off again.
On Han Gyul: For all his acclaim as a composing genius, I find that HG is still the insecure little boy who looked up to his father's music - which is why he finds it difficult to accept any comments Dad might have regarding his composition. He's afraid that Dad will think it sub-par. I find it heart-wrenching that Dad said "I hope you don't take after me in music" while looking at the poster of the masked K on the wall, because he doesn't want HG to be hurt like him. I'm sure Dad has been hurt before in the past while commercializing his music, and now that he sees HG going down the same path, he will most definitely not want HG to face the same things he did.

on Kyusun: What sorcery possessed him to meet with SJ even after he caught her pocketing his phone? (Ok fine - that sorcery is called puppy love.) Poor thing, having to find out that your girlfriend's the cause of the scandal, and still caring for her to want to stay by her side. I'm glad SJ got a wake up call though because she should realize that her petty little ratty actions wouldn't have made CY like her more.

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I don't think it's sorcery so much as compassion. At that moment, he could see how much pain she was under. Granted, the pain was by her own fault, but it was still real. And he wanted someone to be with her at that moment to comfort her.

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Eeks I meant the time he met her, after he caught her pocketing the phone the first time, not after she got scolded by CY! I get that moment, and I think KS is sweet for it, but if I'd seen someone stealing my phone... it would be the end of that person, lol! So I can only assume it was pure puppy love that made him continue to "believe" in SJ and meet her again.

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Ah I love the small Dad/HanGyul moments! They're heart-wrenching and so honest and raw!! Its so obvious how much Dad loves his Gyulie and how much HanGyul has internalized his hurt. I just...love them so much!

Yes, I was mad at KyuSun for going after SeJung too. :( But that just shows how sweet he really is.

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I <3 pops!

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Hangyul and his dad really move me but I have to say all of the credit goes to hangyul for that. Hangyul thoughts about his dad really tugs at my heartstrings because we know the kind pain it's caused and also the way it's shaped him - especially in his music career. I can't say that dad creates the same feels for me. It's not that I don't like dad so much as he's still in this super wise/mysterious level that I don't find to be accessible. Like why did he ultimately let the other guy take all his songs? Does he have a soft spot for the CEO that's romantic? He goes back and forth from being someone who's riddled with guilt towards hangyul and being someone who's so wise that he can reprimand hangyul for his life decisions. I think it makes sense that he can feel both ways- I think I'd like to see a little more vulnerability on dads part where he really shows he cares about hangyul beyond him just saying that he does? Maybe someone can elaborate and shed more light on this.

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What the dad said, that it was okay that HG took after him for everything except his music shows that the dad, too, feels pain about how his life has turned out. Maybe not bitterness, but definitely pain.

As for why he let the others take his music, I believe he said he was kicked out? He's probably the type to run away from a fight rather than confront it. Always wanting peace and conceding, even if that means losing. It's something HG hates.

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Maybe it's because I've watched E12, but I think Dad is hurting in his own, silent way. HG just finds it easier to voice it out loudly that he feels that Dad was used, and that justice should be served. But Dad... I don't see it as him backing off from a fight, I see it as him knowing that it's pointless. What would he stand to gain from letting the truth be known and hurting everyone around him? Would some people praise him for doing so? Sure, maybe there would be people who would praise his songs, and flame those who had stolen it away from him - but to Dad, this small gain doesn't justify the hurt that a lot more people will feel. And in that sense, I think that Dad is being more mature than HG. He just can't be the Dad that HG wants him to be, because he and HG see so differently on this aspect. I'll probably write another novel for this in my comment on the next recap, hah!

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To me, when CY said a little sadly, but accepting, that Mush and Co is his, I felt for him. I even understood when he accused HG of being greedy for stepping into the producing (the same way HG accused him of being greedy for stepping into the relationship). And I even understood why he felt threatened since Jinhyuk was just about to tell him to use HG's song. I even felt sad for him when he saw HG hug SR, because it's only human to feel jealous. But I don't like it that he's always so competitive.

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I try to feel for him, and I do understand that it's a nasty feeling to always feel like you're just a replacement and not good enough. I think CY's just struggling to find his place in this industry, along with bearing the burden that he was just a replacement for HG in Crude Play. And for that, I've been understanding of everything he does.

But I disagree completely with his actions. It's one thing to struggle with your inner emotions, and it's another thing to hurt others while doing it. He's not the only victim in this vicious industry; HG's been equally hurt by JH. I dislike that he only sees his own hurt and expects everyone to understand, when everyone else (including JH) have been burnt before. I bet a stake is driven deeper into Crude Play's hearts every time JH tells them that they're not good enough to play live.

But, I guess everyone is fighting their own battles. It's like I want to comfort CY and tell him that things are going to be ok, but at the same time, I can't like him anymore, argh!

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I guess the reason why he can't see others' hurt is because in his eyes, they're at a "better place" than him, especially Hangyul since he's doing what Chanyoung wants to do, and owning his own music. The grass is always greener on the other side.

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Lezah, well said. Everyone is struggling at some degree. But they arent taking it out on others like CY.

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I don't like how he keeps comparing what he has with Sorim against what Sorim has with HanGyul. It's totally incomparable. Instead of making the best of his own situation he's pining for the kind of relationship that Sorim can never truly give him. I think that's irrational and very petulant of him.

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I complete agree. No one's going to say that Chanyoung deserves Sorim or what he's doing is right. In fact, he's made jealous decisions, been a jerk, etc., but he is by far the most complex and interesting character in the drama. He's close with his bandmates, but once Hangyul comes into the picture, he becomes dissapointed and sad. Also, he genuinely likes and cares for Sorim and Mush&Co, but he feels everyone else wants Hangyul to take over, and that's actually true. It's really sad that he feels like he doesn't have a place or doesn't belong. Its not that im rooting for Chanyoung and Sorim, but rather that I want to see scenes where he does confess and she does agonize over it, but shes the one who truly brings him back. People jts dont understand sometimes

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Oooh. I love your comment. Very well summarized. I don't ship Chanyoung and Sorim either, but I like his character as a well-written and complex character. I want to say more, but that would be spoiling episode 12. But basically yes, he keeps being torn between what he wants (crude play and mush and co) and what he feels like people are taking away from him. So he's never able to fully enjoy any moments. It's sad if you think about it.

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Thank you. Someone underatands. I don't like it when they make him out to be some bad guy thats a pervert (trust me, I've seen stupid comments like that) and cares only for himself. Like ep 12 shows, he genuinely loves his band mates and loves mush and Co and wishes the best for them. It's just that everyone that he's close to seems to like hangyul a lot more in his eyes so he further gets upset. He really likes sorim, I can tell, but why are people so upset over that? Get over her bc she has a bf? Is it really that easy to get over someone you like and appreciate? Especially in this case, where sorim is the only one who truly appreciates his music and who he is when no one else does. I understand where he's coming from.

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I understand where he's coming from too. I get that people dislike his immature way of dealing with hurt feelings, but he definitely has reasons to feel hurt. And I don't expect him to be the most mature one either, he's the youngest of Crude Play, let's not forget that. Of course, i would want him to mature up by the end of the drama, but I don't like it either when viewers reduce his complex character as just pure evil, or dismiss his sincerity. It's people dismissing his sincerity which brought on his inferiority complex to begin with.

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"why are people so upset over that? Get over her bc she has a bf?"
I'm not upset because he likes her, and I'm not saying he should get over her because she already has a BF (I know how painful a one sided crush can be). I see your point, but what people are upset about isn't the fact that he likes her - it's the fact that he does manipulative little actions on purpose to try to break up her relationship with HG. It's one thing to admire her from the side, and it's another to try to snatch her away from the person she likes.

I think CY has a huge inferiority complex when it comes to HG, and I don't blame him. It's probably been built up over these 5 years. People seem to prefer HG over him. This may sound harsh, but to give CY some tough love, he needs to reflect and think about why exactly people always seem to prefer HG over him. Is it because they honestly do, or is it his inferiority speaking? If it is the former, then perhaps he needs to think about why and make some changes. If it is the latter, then I do feel bad for him, but he needs to get over it and give the others a chance. They genuinely care for him and you can see it through their interactions. It's just that the moment HG steps in/CY gets dealt another blow, he goes off onto another spiel of "everybody hates me, everyone loves HG, urgh HG".

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I do agree with what you're saying. It's just that the comments and hate towards Chanyoung is really unwarranted. Yes, he's been a jerk sometimes and his inferiority complex, while saddening, hasn't made improvements. However, to go as far as saying that you hate him and that he's a total idiot for liking Sorim is way too much. It's people like those who don't really know what's going on. You can tell by his actions and eyes that he really likes Sorim and wants the best for Mush&Co. To some blind people, it may seem that he only likes them bc its his band, and that may be partly true. However, you can tell throughout the drama that he has come to really care for them and wants the best. Also, you're right. He is close with the other bandmates; there's no denying that, but what's saddening is that once Hangyul comes in the picture, he feels small again and feels like he's not wanted. It's false, but I can see why he thinks that way. There's two scenes in the next ep that really shows his sadness and his grief over this. I won't list them, but damn, after those scenes, I could really feel for him. In the end, he might be my favorite character in the series (after Sorim of course) simply because he is the most complex character in the series and with the most potential for character growth.

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Why should she agonize over him? She is in love with another dude, and always has. She has no doubts about where her heart is, and has made it perfectly clear to everybody.

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"Chan-young’s one saving grace in this episode was telling Se-jung off. "

Really agree with you on this! CY's lost all his good graces with me, unfortunately, but I'm glad that he really reminded SJ that her actions were selfish and childish, and would do nothing to make him like her better. The fact that those words came from CY's own mouth to a sasaeng fan like her would have had much greater impact. At least it tells me that CY does care about Mush&Co to a certain extent, even if I don't like his other actions.

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He was scary when he was telling SJ off. Though I was glad he did, I kept telling to myself that I wouldn't want to be on his bad side

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Yes! He exuded his idol presence in telling SJ off.

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He was TOTALLY cool there! For a moment I actually went- this is the second lead we want. So cool and calm and suave!

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But that's the thing! It doesn't shoowww! He says that he cares but his actions speak therwise! He's letting his own personal agenda with HanGyul get in the way of the betterment of his band.
And yes, agree. I loved when he told Se Jung off.

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Hold up, why are they redeeming Snake Se Jung? I was popping champagne when Chan Young mercilessly owned her (Producer of the Year), but not even two seconds go by before Gyu Sun is consoling her and assuring her they're not broken up. I dgaf if she cries. Somebody please slap some sense into that boy. I had reached the point where I wished Se Jung would hurry up and drop the bomb because I couldn't stand to watch Gyu Sun get the wool pulled over his eyes anymore. At least he was keenly aware of Se Jung's delusional crush on Chan Young, since her study room desk is plastered with Chan Young posters. As if we needed more proof that Se Jung never listens to Gyu Sun, he clearly said "our manager NOONA," yet she still inferred Han Gyul was Mush & Co.'s manager. I freaked out at Gyu Sun's leaked video of In Ho playing the drums. I am in a constant state of fear that Crude Play will be caught.

I normally hate Jin Hyuk, but I was completely on his side today. So Rim was absolutely at fault. Jin Hyuk clearly warned her not to date, yet she gets herself a boyfriend the day her band debuts. It annoyed me when So Rim was distractedly looking for Han Gyul instead of focusing during practice. The vicious online comments against So Rim due to her dating rumors with Chan Young were very realistic (though I was amused at Chan Young having so many fanboys). Jin Hyuk had previously reminded Chan Young that his fans were unhappy at their idol being "used" to promote his hoobaes. Then almost as soon as their CEO gets done talking about So Rim and Gyu Sun's love lives endangering their band, Gyu Sun and Jin Woo conspire to hit on So Rim while she is away from Han Gyul in their dorm. These kids never learn. Mush & Co. is so screwed. Soo Yeon deserves to get reprimanded, too. She and Chan Young had an obligation to tell Jin Hyuk about So Rim and Han Gyul's relationship. It's not about ratting them out, it's about giving Sole Music a preemptive strike. Jin Hyuk was blindsided. At least CEO Yoo is all "no publicity is bad publicity."

"Why can't I get involved between you and So Rim?" Because she doesn't like you back. I love how Han Gyul sees right through him. Such a perceptive hyung. I also love how Han Gyul says everything with a smile on his face, which probably pisses Chan Young off even more. How was Chan Young even allowed to wait for So Rim by himself all night in the hospital after being admonished for brazenly going to the Han River with her?

Forget what So Rim, Jin Woo, Han Gyul, and Chan Young were doing up so early, what were Shi Hyun and Soo Yeon doing in a room together!? We're going back to that, right? They can't leave us hanging like that. Many thanks for the recap, @SailorJumun!

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"Why can't I get involved between you and So Rim?" Because she doesn't like you back.

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Yes, exactly! Is there any reason, CY, that could be more convincing than that? Why would you waste time and effort into trying to break up a happy relationship?

I agree with you that Mush&Co tend not to follow the rules that the company sets but I'll attribute that to a lot of naivete. I don't think JW or KS have any realistic expectations of what it is to be an idol, besides the "cool" factor they get from being "celebrities". If they were any more realistic about it, KS wouldn't have continued hanging out with SJ, not when she'd pocketed his phone the first time. They're just... so innocently... young.

But speaking of which, clearly CY doesn't seem to care about the company's rules either, since as you pointed out, he somehow waited at the hospital for ages even though he had just been reprimanded for hanging out with SR. I don't know what possessed him to go out with her in broad daylight either. For an idol with such a large fanbase, CY sure moves around in public easily. He has his own car that he takes off in all the time; I don't see any of the other Crude Play boys doing that.

And squeeee yes I wish we had more of SY-SH scenes.

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I don't mind that we're giving a chance for Sejung to change. She's just a young girl after all. Plenty of people have done worse things than her and changed for the better.

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Yes, I agree. SJ does deserve a second chance. But, I wanted her to suffer more. Not because I'm sadistic (Lol), but because she should learn her lessons well before the redemption comes in. Sometimes, when we shelter our loved ones, it does not help them grow.

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I think the shock of CY hating her can count as suffering at her age. She probably only knows how to study, and CY was her only escape from that. It must have been crushing, and hopefully, a wake-up call.

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I wonder if that is the end of Se Jung's shenanigans.

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Ah, I get your point about Sorim dating Gyulie but honestly I don't really care at all. What they have is a beautiful, innocent, amazing relationship - it gave Sorim wings (granted a lot of hurt in the process, but even flying takes a few tries). I love how they constantly push each other up, instead of pulling down. I love the trust! And I love how Sorim sang Shiny Boy for HanGyul that day. So I'm not really bothered with the business aspect, but I figured Jin Hyuk is savvy enough that he *knows* what's happening between them at that single confunded glance back when Gyulie burst into the debut hall. If he didn't personally do anything about it, then I suppose he saw no harm? Not sure, tho.

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"Forget what So Rim, Jin Woo, Han Gyul, and Chan Young were doing up so early, what were Shi Hyun and Soo Yeon doing in a room together!? We're going back to that, right? They can't leave us hanging like that. "

-I swear we better get a flashback to that scene if something really happened between them that night. They have little enough screentime as it is. We don't need important relationship development like that happening off-screen, Show!

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Well, I'm more interested in how Yoon and Inho were cozzying it up close to each other in the morning. Did you see how they were wrapped around each other? lol.

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Haha! I definitely need more of them too!

Since they kind of seem like a pair (whereas SH/HG seem closer), I'd love to see more moments with just the two of them. We only seem to get them in the group setting, except for some rare occurrences.

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Probably something along the lines of SY texting SH with "Quick! SR thinks I'm asleep and snuck out with HG, come visit!" The rest I'll leave to a better fan fic writer than me. :)

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I hear "Crude Play hyung-deulie-rang, uri manager noona-rang, uri set ireoke man." Where does Gyu Sun say "manager hyung"?

Who is Mush & Co.'s manager hyung? Unless he was referring to Crude Play's manager Jun Seok, who is adorable by the way. He's younger than Crude Play, calling all the Crude Play boys "hyung."

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Looking forward to Jin Woo's attempts to capture So Rim's heart haha.

Gyu sun why are you so nice to her. Broke my heart when he found out that she was using him and he still stood by her. It was kind of satisfying for Chan Young to see Se Jeong when she was showing her true colours but at the same time I did feel a little bit of pity for her. She just needed that to snap her back to reality and how it affects the people around her.

I felt sympathy for Chan Young at the beginning because he just seemed a little lost to me. He was just wanting the acceptance that Han Gyul gained so easily but the way he seems to keep competing with Han Gyul is pissing me off. What do you want??? Why do you try to take Han Gyul's place but then want be completely different to him at the same time

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I am sure Jin Woo's attempts are gonna be hilarious! I do hope they don't just become a scene- filler though. I would love to see his story move a little forward, even though that might include hurting the little puppy when he realizes that So Rim won't love him back.

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He looked so hurt when he thought Sorim and Hangyul were together in the morning, and looked so happy when Chanyoung said they weren't.

Is it just me, or did it look like Sorim was just about to tell him the truth in the car before Chanyoung interrupted?

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I think she was. Sorim can't lie to save her life, that precious girl. <3

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Yes, I was annoyed with Chanyoung when he did that. It put Sorim in the position of lying to one of her besties and doesn't allow Jinwoo to move on...yet.

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Agree with this! I felt like the Crude Play boys did get more individual moments and lines this week, but it made me realize that I'd like a lot more of it. I think the writer has done a pretty good job of balancing screen-time between characters, but now that Se-jung's wreaked her havoc, I hope we can focus even more on the ones we care about.

I would honestly love if this could even be a little more like Shut up! Flower Boy Band, in that we get lots of one-on-one moments between the different band-mates, instead of just focusing on the Han-gyul/Chan-young dilemma.

But I know that this show is juggling a lot more story-lines, what with MUSH&CO's debut, the romance etc., so I know that really would be too much to ask! I just love Crude Play, hehe.

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I love Crude Play too, but I'm glad that we also got time to focus on the adults like HG's father with HG, CEO Yoo with HG's father, CEO Yoo with Jinhyuk and Yoona's relationship with Jinhyuk. The relationship between all characters are intricate, which i appreciate. Normally in youth dramas like this, adults are just an after-thought, so I like it that they're in the story as well. It makes it different from other dramas.

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There's only 5 more episodes to go as well:( I'll be happy if they show just one more story line just for the crude play boys <3

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@mollyswari You forgot the Jinhyuk-Crude Play boys dynamic. I find it interesting how he acts both like their guardian, parents, scolding them, taking care of them, but also like all parents, he also constrains them without realizing it.

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@Ezekiel Parents usually brings misery to their children by imposing on their children their own ideas about what's the best for their future. In their pursuit for what is best for the future, they forget the happiness of the present and how important that is for their children.

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@mollyswari your comment illustrates how this drama gives dimensions to their characters. CEO Yoo is not just CEO, but also a woman. HG's father is not just HG's father, but an artist, a friend, and a man. Same with JH, he's not just a rival to CEO Yoo, but also a mentor, a boyfriend, etc. I love it.

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Shut up! is one of my favorite shows too (and the songs were so good too); they really did develop the friendship between the member. Hoping we'll get more of that in the last (booo!) 4 episodes.

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Thank you for the recap!

--So...Soo-Yeon is the MVP again. And while everyone was grilling So Rim and Jin Woo and Han Gyul, did no one really notice that SY and Shin Hyun were standing in the doorway of the same room?! Really nosy viewers want to know!

--Ugh Chan Young, way to coerce SR into lying to her friends. Just when I think I understand him and admire him for moments like defending his group against Se Jung, he pulls some gross manipulative moves at Grandma's hospital bed. Now is not the time to measure how much further than HG you can pee in the snow. But at least I don't have to worry about second lead syndrome.

--While the SJ storyline allowed us to see Mush&Co act as a team, I'm just plain annoyed at how irresponsible Gyu Sun is with his phone around her. You saw her steal your phone once and she's been gaslighting you about your memory! SJ is a hateful, spiteful little brat and I hope hugging her was purely an act of kindness and not reconciliation.

--Here's hoping the angst isn't ramped up from now until the last 15 minutes of episode 16.

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Btw, I just love the look he gets in his eyes whenever he thinks the others aren't looking. He'll always gets this giddy, mischievous look and what's better is that he always tries to catch Soo-yeon's eyes so that she can share it with him. It's adorable.

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Yeah, especially in this episode! She seemed so pleased with herself :)

I honestly find both actors for SH and SY to be so charming. I'd love to see more of both of them. Part of the reason why I need more of their characters in this show is because I know how unlikely it is that two newbies like this will ever get to work together again & they just have such great chemistry. Hopefully they both have successful careers ahead of them :)

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WHAT. How did I miss this?! I love them. And I missed this?! I feel like I've failed myself somehow.

Well, goodbye, commenting on recap. I'll be back later. I have very important things to attend to...so I can, you know, comment on this episode properly ;)

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KS's much more kind than I'll ever be. If I find out that someone has been hacking into my phone and trying to mess with my memory... well. I can safely say that a hug will be the last thing on my mind. I would have been much more satisfied with him just breaking it off with her, because obviously her feelings for him have never been genuine. (And she said it so clearly to him, too, to make him go away).

Sigh. Guess it shows how sweet and naive KS really is.

CY's been manipulative the whole show long, so I'm not even surprised by his moves any more, but I can't justify them any more.

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Me too! Me too! I love how Sorim-i just totally turned around and ran like the hounds of hell were at her heels and backhugged grandma because I LOVE HER EVEN MORE NOW! <3

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This show totally made my day. Had a busy day overnight at work and got piled with more stuff to do. Finally got back home to these adorable people and from the first 5 min I already had a big grin on my face.

Chan Young, I feel for you, when you are all puppy dog cute and earnest in front of So Rim, but you have no one to blame but yourself for getting caught by the paparazzi, and since it's clear So Rim isn't interested, shouldn't you be a man and back off? Plus, why aren't you working hard to try to write another song? If you wanna be a songwriter, you got to, well, write songs!

Han Gyul really surprised me by being the steadfast one this episode. He didn't let So Rim's interaction with CY faze him at all, and he took the ultimatum to stay away from So Rim pretty well, he just decided to be cute and stare at her picture at listen to her voice and smile like a loon. Adorable to the max! I think he really meant it when he said he wouldn't interfere with Mush & co, he always seems so sincere nowadays. but sigh, I wish CY wouldn't disregard So Rim's feelings and insist on fighting for her. Not gentlemanly mister!

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If there is one thing Chan Young does right, is that when he's with Sorim, he's always gentle and kind.

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Yes and no. I'm not sure if he picks up on all the signs that she finds skinship with him awkward, but certainly they are there. And I'm not sure if coming between Han Gyul and So Rim's relationship is necessarily kind to So Rim either, simply because I don't think he would be a better choice over Han Gyul. but yeah he can be cute when he is smiling and sweet to her.

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I think what boraflok means is that he always listens to her with understanding and kindness when he's with her. He's never mean or harsh in demeanor.

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He is very, very nice to her, but I think he tries to insert himself into her relationship with HG too much, and she's too nice to ask him to stop. Like when he's touching her hand/wanting to talk to her alone and all... SR looks awkward and a little unwilling. But I think she chooses to believe that CY is just being a nice, caring producer oppa.

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But he's becoming pushy! he totally grabbed her hand in order to prevent her from going with HG..and well the next episode ending scene.

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in this episode, he was ok though. The grabbing hand was not over the top imo. It's better than grabbing the arm or wrist.

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I didn't realize Chan Young drove Mush & Co. to their MT. I assumed all of Crude Play rode in their own van. Chan Young was probably fuming the entire drive in. I'm surprised he didn't exit the freeway early.

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I saw him close the van door for Sorim and I admit I'm weak for those gentlemanly stuff. I still don't like him for her tho.

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He looks kind on the surface, but in reality he is just pushing his own selfish agenda. So Rim's feelings and desires are not his priority. He has been withholding information and tricking her into promising to be with him musically, by not revealing that her crush is K. And, since that day, he has been manipulating to get her away from the man she loves, forcing skinship to the point of making her uncomfortable, and holding on to her when he knows that for her career, singing a K song would be the best.
Sorry but that's not kindness, and it's surely not love.

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Yes, I'm loving the absolute trust! Gyulie is awesome!

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I want a gyulie plushie which is very squishy ! ^_^

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Petition for a K's plushie, as well as Mush and Co plushies

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Lol, would the plushie be scary with a mask like "Silence of the Lambs"?

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@dramaninja I want me a squishy cutie gyulie plushie plus a fandom of teeny beanie plushies ?

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Tell me now, where do I need to sign up?

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@dramaninja DB should make 'em! Isn't DB going to open up an online store soon? Or was I just imagining that info? ?

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Gosh, that scene of him listening to her voice while staring at pictures of her.... Word of advice, don't watch this couple while exercising.

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getting caught by the dad was the best.

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