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Tunnel: Episode 9

What’s really satisfying about Tunnel is that it has much more substance to it beyond its mysteries, and this hour draws our quartet much closer together. But real camaraderie is best when it’s seasoned with tough love, and right now, no one needs it more than Kwang-ho—and no one can administer it better than Sun-jae, even if he’ll never admit that there’s any love involved. We see right through you, you grumpy teddybear.

 
EPISODE 9 RECAP

1992. Yeon-sook leaves work for the night and asks her taxi driver to hurry home because her daughter’s waiting, and he replies that that’s all the more reason for him to drive safely. But only moments later, a drunk driver comes straight at them.

A bloodied Yeon-sook drags herself from the overturned car. Kwang-ho, do you see me? I was left alone after you were gone. I don’t want to make our Yeon-ho like that too, she thinks before passing out.

Clutching the photo of her in the present, Kwang-ho shakes with choked sobs as night passes into day. He ignores his ringing phone, and back at the station, Sun-jae sighs in frustration. In private, he asks Sung-shik if it’s to do with “the person called Yeon-sook,” and finds out that she was Kwang-ho’s wife.

Sun-jae thinks on Sung-shik’s words en route to Kwang-ho’s house. He had related Kwang-ho’s desperate search for her, only to discover that she’d died over twenty years ago. Furthermore, she had left a child—his child—but nobody knew what became of her.

He finds Kwang-ho’s door unlocked again, with Kwang-ho slumped on the floor inside. “Get up,” Sun-jae tells him, not unkindly. He says there’s a new Jung Ho-young murder, but Kwang-ho just tells him to go away.

“If you do this, will a dead person come back?” Sun-jae asks. That finally sparks a reaction, and Kwang-ho asks bitterly what it will change if they catch Jung Ho-young. “Yeon-sook is dead, so what good does it do?” he shouts.

“Hey. That’s not something you can say to me right now,” Sun-jae replies. He points out that Jung might even have killed his mother. “When you apologized for not capturing the culprit, was that a lie?” he asks. And, he asks, is Kwang-ho planning to let the culprit get away again like he did thirty years ago?

“What about your child? Aren’t you curious about what happened to your child?” Sun-jae asks. He asks Kwang-ho how he thinks a motherless six-year-old left alone would have lived. Stricken, Kwang-ho shouts at him, asking what he’s meant to do.

“Find your daughter, solve the case, and go back, you fool! Go back and prevent it. Go back… and save Yeon-sook,” Sun-jae yells back. He reminds him that if he was brought to this timeline to solve the case, then wouldn’t he be able to go back once he had? “Let’s catch that bastard together,” he urges.

“If I were there, Yeon-sook wouldn’t have gotten in that taxi,” Kwang-ho says. “I’ll catch the culprit, and I’ll go back,” he vows. In a rundown apartment elsewhere, Jung Ho-young dons a courier uniform and heads out.

Kwang-ho strides into the police station, filled with new resolve. With everyone now here, Sung-shik calls a meeting. They identify that the victim, Lee Seo-yeon, went missing between her home and the bus stop, but once again, the murderer left no trace.

They do have one eyewitness, though: A delivery guy on a motorcycle saw her ahead of an unusually slow car. But since it was dark, all he could tell them was that it was a black sedan. Sun-jae notes that Jung was was in a white sedan the only other time he was caught on camera and surmises that it could be the same car repainted. Sung-shik dispatches the team with orders to track it down.

On their way out, Kwang-ho asks Sun-jae how to go about finding a child. Sun-jae tells him he’s already put someone onto looking for Yeon-ho, guessing that she either went into an orphanage or was adopted. “Since it was a long time ago, it won’t be easy, but let’s wait and see. We’ll hear something,” Sun-jae reassures him.

Though painfully forlorn, Kwang-ho thanks him. “Let’s catch the culprit quickly, since it looks like you and I are looking for the same guy,” Sun-jae replies, his tone gentle. Of course, he then goes and tells him to unfurrow his ugly brow, haha.

Jae-yi reads the news about the latest murder and thinks back to what she said to Sun-jae about how he might have been the trigger. She’s about to call him, but changes her mind. As she makes her way to class, she passes some girls skipping rope, and it triggers a memory of her own younger self.

Dr. Mok tells our two detectives that Lee Seo-yeon’s cause of death was also asphyxiation (with tights), and her death would have been drawn-out and painful. Kwang-ho berates Sun-jae for losing him two years ago, and Sun-jae has to stop himself mid-retort about catching him thirty years ago.

Turning back to Dr. Mok, Sun-jae asks him about the reason for the increasing frequency of the murders. “Do murderers have reasons?” Kwang-ho asks. He searches the victim’s ankles for dots but finds nothing.

He tells Sun-jae so in private and asks about the Haein River victim, Yoon Da-young (the one out of their jurisdiction). Sun-jae says there’s no mention of dots in the autopsy report, and Kwang-ho thinks it could mean a different killer. But Sun-jae says it’s not uncommon for serial killers to change their methods completely.

Sung-shik orders the pair to the crime scene, where he plans to join them. On his way out, he’s met by the victim’s brother, here to collect her effects. He cries over them, regretting that he hadn’t driven her himself, and Sung-shik tells him that it isn’t his fault. Meanwhile, an officer brings in a special delivery for Sun-jae and leaves the box on his desk.

At the end of Jae-yi’s class, her A-grade student asks if the murderer she mentioned last time was Jung Ho-young, and another student says he heard that the latest victim was a student at their university. Jae-yi asks a student to spatter a bottle of red nail varnish on her and tells them about a case some years ago where a man used to throw red-colored liquid on women before running away.

When asked if she would report such a thing, the student replies that she probably wouldn’t, since it doesn’t seem serious enough for that. But they gasp when Jae-yi tells them that some months later, that same man stabbed a woman—to see the red color. “And that’s how he evolved into a murderer,” she finishes.

Relating it back to Jung Ho-young, she says that he must have had a starting point too. By examining his crimes, they might be able to understand his choice of victims, his method, and so on. As the class files out, she wonders to herself why Jung is fixated on women in skirts.

Kwang-ho and Sun-jae are out near the scene. A sign pointing to a military base catches Kwang-ho’s eye, and he stares at it in shock. They reach a field close to the base, and deeply disturbed, Kwang-ho tells Sun-jae that this is where his mother’s body was found thirty years ago. Wuuuut. Sun-jae is equally shocked.

Spotting a lone camera nearby, they obtain the footage, reasoning that since the victim was found there, Jung Ho-young should be on it. And they do see him on it, tailing the victim. They return to the field and find a truck nearby with a blackbox camera. Its footage shows a man getting into a black sedan and driving past. This time, they get the license number.

The team regroups at the station, and Kwang-ho puzzles over why Jung returned to the same place as thirty years ago. Tae-hee overhears, but his probing is cut short when Sung-shik rushes in and tells them that the car was found.

On the road, a patrol car orders Jung’s car to stop, but he weaves away.

As the detectives prepare to leave, a phone rings… but it doesn’t belong to any of them. Kwang-ho discovers that the sound is coming from the box on Sun-jae’s desk, which the latter then tears open.

“It’s been a while, Detective,” says Jung Ho-young from a pay phone on the other side. “I have something to tell you. Haein River… that wasn’t me. It’s true that I killed Lee Seo-yeon, but that one wasn’t me,” he repeats, before hanging up. Furious, Sun-jae instructs Min-ha to track the number.

Meanwhile, the patrol car finally catches its quarry and drags the driver out… but it’s not Jung Ho-young. When the police check his license plates, they find a fake fastened over the real one.

The news vexes our detective team. Meanwhile, Min-ha pinpoints the location of the call. Sun-jae and Kwang-ho head there and find that it’s a public pay phone, out of range of any CCTV—again, Kwang-ho notes. He tells Sun-jae that young Kwang-ho was also called from a pay phone.

The next day breaks with news reports of the police’s failure to catch Jung Ho-young. The chief superintendent makes an appearance at the police station, but Kwang-ho’s missing from the lineup. Sung-shik grimaces when he marches in late, complaining about higher-ups.

The superintendent orders them to review the entire Jung Ho-young investigation from the start. Sun-jae speaks up to say that there were six victims, not five, adding the Haein River murder to the list. The superintendent recognizes Sun-jae as the one who lost Jung Ho-young last time.

Sun-jae points out that it’s strange for Jung to admit something now when he denied everything back then. The superintendent studies him with interest and tells him to bring him results. He also advises Sung-shik to make sure to consult with the professor he recommended—Jae-yi—which surprises Sun-jae.

Once he’s gone, they all breathe in relief. Sun-jae calls Jae-yi to come in, and then calls Dr. Mok. He tells him how Jung had said the Haein River murder wasn’t him and asks the doc to re-examine the six autopsy reports again. After they hang up, Dr. Mok looks at his chessboard and says, “Will you be able to catch the king?” Creepy and cryptic.

The police station is abuzz with activity when Jae-yi arrives, and Sun-jae lights up to see her. With her arrival, Sun-jae begins the briefing. He says Jung’s first victim is thought to be his wife, Kim Ji-eun, in 2009.

At the time, Jung had said that she had run away with another man, but her body turned up eight months later with tights wrapped around her neck. Jung had been under suspicion, but there was no evidence to tie him to her death.

There were two more similar murders after that, but still nothing connected Jung—until he was caught on CCTV with the fourth woman, a nurse. Sun-jae was in charge of the investigation at the time and had arrested him. Thinking the nurse’s murder was too practiced to be his first time, he combed through cold cases bearing similar traits until he found the others. As for the two recent cases, he blames himself for losing Jung two years ago.

Summing up, Sun-jae says that with the exception of his wife, Jung targeted women in their twenties, asphyxiating them with tights. He lets Jae-yi take over, and she tells them that all the victims were wearing skirts, causing some of the officers to titter. She silences them by asking if it would be okay to murder the women if they weren’t plain. “You must think there are women who deserve to be killed,” Jae-yi says. That shuts them up.

She tells Sung-shik that if they could figure out why Jung Ho-young targets skirt-wearing women, they might discover what motivates him. Finally, she shows them the microfilm articles of the murders from thirty years ago, explaining that they bear the same characteristics as the current cases.

Kwang-ho tells her that there were actually six murders back then, and Jung Ho-young had been brought in only to be released because he produced an alibi. “Though now I think of it, his parents could have been lying,” he adds. Sung-shik is shocked to realize that the high school kid was Jung Ho-young.

Sun-jae tells them that the family then moved to Seoul, and Jung was placed in a mental hospital soon after where he remained for eight years, though he didn’t have any specific diagnosis. After he was discharged, he married his wife, and they all know what followed. Sung-shik also tells them about the dots.

In private afterwards, Sun-jae admits he knew about Jung Ho-young’s multiple murders since the nurse case two years ago, adding that it would have been good if he’d known that Sung-shik had been at Hwayang then. At that, Sung-shik explodes at him for never coming to any after-work dinners: Everybody knew that except him, he yells. Hahaha, yes, tell him!

Kwang-ho and Sun-jae head out together. “In the end, there was a reason for us to meet like this after all,” Sung-shik says, watching them go.

The detectives pay Kim Ji-eun’s family a visit. Her mother is lost in a world of her own, poring over old photos of her dead daughter. They hang their heads when her older sister reproves them for not listening back then, and Sun-jae asks what caused her to suspect Jung.

She tells them a difficult story Ji-eun had told her—that her husband used to strangle her with tights while she was sleeping, and one time she really nearly died. The sister regrets that they were beguiled by his family’s money and that they had counseled Ji-eun to be good to her husband. They later learned that he had been at a mental hospital, but never found out why.

Jae-yi visits his old hospital to answer that question. His psychiatrist remembers him as her first patient and hints that he was forcefully hospitalized by his parents. His mother had pleaded with them never to release him: “He’s not human.”

The doctor understood why she’d said that when she talked to him. In an interview, he had told her that killing dogs became boring: “I became curious about what it would feel like to kill a person. My little sister liked it too. When I strangled her, she wasn’t grimacing, but smiling.” The doctor says he didn’t say much else after that interview, and Jae-yi asks for the recording.

Sun-jae’s phone from Jung Ho-young starts to ring, and he quickly tells Kwang-ho to get the number tracked. Jung asks him how he’s doing with his homework, and laughing, he gives them to the count of three to find him.

The detectives arrive at the location, another pay phone, and the Murder Phone rings again. Jung tells Sun-jae not to mess with him and to do his homework properly. Kwang-ho growls in frustration.

The next day, Jae-yi listens to the tape. Young Jung Ho-young sings a few lines: When I see your smiling face, it warms my heart. “She really was smiling,” he said. Jae-yi stops the tape. It looks like she’s onto something.

Sung-shik maps the locations of the victims’ bodies against Jung’s calls. Eyes twinkling, Kwang-ho says that one more point would make it the Big Dipper, and Sung-shik snorts, remembering how he had said that to Kwang-ho thirty years ago. The joke is, of course, lost on everyone else. Aww.

They all jump at the sound of a phone ringing, but it’s just Dr. Mok on Sun-jae’s normal phone. He and Kwang-ho head over, and Dr. Mok tells them that unlike Lee Seo-yeon, who had died extremely slowly, the Haein River victim, Yoon Da-young, was killed at once. He thinks that it’s either because she was killed in in a fit of fury, or it’s two different killers.

Sun-jae shows him the 1986 reports, but Dr. Mok says that using tights doesn’t mean it’s the same killer. Kwang-ho mutters that the 1986 murderer he killed without reason too. “How would you know that?” the doc asks with an unsettling smile.

Kwang-ho tells Sun-jae later that one of the 1986 victims was also found at Haein River. They question Yoon Da-young’s roomie, but she’s never heard Jung Ho-young’s name. Sun-jae gets a call just then from Kim Ji-eun’s sister, who gives him the address of a place Ji-eun wanted to move to.

They find the area ramshackle and deserted due to redevelopment. Sun-jae doesn’t think he’s there, but Kwang-ho begins a search anyway. In one house, they come across a box identical to the one Jung Ho-young used to send Sun-jae the Murder Phone as well as a copy of today’s paper, meaning that it’s his current hideout.

They call in the cavalry, and the detectives lie in wait for Jung’s return. While they wait, Sun-jae hears from his missing persons contact, who says that without even a photo to go on for Yeon-ho, he could only narrow down the list to seventy people.

Sun-jae asks Kwang-ho what he plans to say to his daughter first. “I have to apologize first,” Kwang-ho replies. Just then, Jung appears, and the men crouch out of sight. But Jung sees their reflection in a shard of mirror and flees. The detectives give chase but ultimately lose him, and Kwang-ho roars in frustration.

Jung calls Sun-jae on the Murder Phone. Angry that they came after him, he threatens to go after “the woman you cherish.” Sun-jae immediately dials Jae-yi, but he can’t reach her. He tears off, leaving Kwang-ho behind.

He gets Jae-yi’s address from Dean Hong, but is confused when he pulls up in front of Kwang-ho’s house. Oh, this should be fun! Kwang-ho arrives home himself by then, and is in the middle of denying Jae-yi lives there when she pops out.

Sun-jae yells at her for not answering her phone, “Do you know how worried I was?” She explains that she was busy listening to the tapes so she didn’t hear, and invites them in for coffee.

Sun-jae shuffles awkwardly around her apartment and asks if they’re living together. Echoing Jae-yi’s words to him before, Kwang-ho reels off that it’s not together: He’s upstairs, she’s downstairs.

Jae-yi asks Sun-jae what the urgent thing he had to say was. Caught, he steals a glance at Kwang-ho (whose expression is just priceless) and stiltingly asks why Jung Ho-young said the Haein River case wasn’t him. She says he’s playing a game with the phone calls, but what he said is odd. At least one part of his confession is true, but which part?

Kwang-ho finds their reasoning confusing and decides to leave them to it. HA, Sun-jae clutches at his trouser leg to stop him, but in the end, he’s left alone with Jae-yi, and so he takes a nervous swig of coffee. But he smiles to see his handkerchief in her bag, and asks her to be careful.

Kwang-ho’s pretty pleased with himself outside. “These are the good times,” he says, grinning. But the grin soon gives way to a sigh.

At the NFS, Dr. Mok tells the officer that the police suspect Jung Ho-young for murders committed thirty years ago, but he learns that they don’t have autopsy reports from that far back. Looking over the current cases, the officer thinks that they’re all Jung’s work. “You think so, too?” Dr. Mok asks.

In a children’s playground, a woman struggles as a dark figure strangles her with a pair of tights. “I… am not a person who kills someone without a reason. I’m different than that bastard Jung Ho-young!” he rasps. As her struggles cease, her killer raises his face. It’s Dr. Mok.

 
COMMENTS

Nope, not surprised—pretty much all of us called it way back. But even with Dr. Mok finally unveiled as the original 1986 killer (and therefore also the guy in the church confessional in Episode 4), there’s still a lot we don’t know. What provoked him to start killing again? Was it the appearance of Kwang-ho? Did he recognize him? From the way he looks at him and his cryptic comments, I’m certain he does. What are his oh-so-hallowed reasons for his murders? I’m also pretty certain he killed young Kwang-ho (who still remains nearly a total mystery).

Age-wise, I’d put Mok at fifty or so, so thirty years ago, he’d have been around the same age as Jung Ho-young. Both kids are in Hwayang, one killing dogs and the other killing women… how are they connected to each other? It’s clear that Jung witnessed at least one of Mok’s murders, since he killed Lee Seo-yeon at exactly the place Sun-jae’s mom was murdered and experienced a flashback to it. It would be interesting to see where and how his path crossed with Mok’s. His seeming inability to distinguish the rictus of pain from a smile of pleasure is as fascinating as it is disturbing. Both killers are sick, but in different ways. Were they friends? Are they in communication in the present? Does Jung know who Mok is in the present?

But the reveal raises the potentially more important question of who Mok was in 1986. If Kwang-ho’s sojourn to the future is an act of fate, we have to assume (for the time being) that the endgame for the show is to return him to his original timeline so he can catch the killer there. It doesn’t seem likely that Mok would be living under his real name in the present, so it can’t be as simple as looking up “Mok Jin-woo,” can it?

Reveals aside, I really like how the character interplays are building up. The team came together in a really cohesive way this episode, and I’m enjoying all the partnerships so much. What’s growing between Kwang-ho and Sun-jae is better than friendship, and it feels so earned. Jae-yi is delightfully straitlaced with no sense of subtext. All of them are changing in small but important ways, and it feels really rewarding to watch. Even Sung-shik’s little explosion at Sun-jae showed growing closeness—though they’d been working together for some time, it’s clear that Sun-jae was very closed off. On that note, did Mok attach himself to Sun-jae on purpose, knowing who he was?

I really like how our central quartet all borrow each other’s words, passing them around between them and repeating them back to each other. It’s not a new device, but between these characters, it’s a charmingly organic way of showing how they affect each other, how much they listen, what their opinions of each other are, and it gives them a note of unity—that for all their thorns, reticence, and brusque demeanors, they’re on the same page. But more than that, they care about each other.

Between the four of them, only the Kwang-ho/Sung-shik connection is old (and rock solid, bless them), but every other combination between them is a new relationship finding its ground. I like how Kwang-ho’s direct, uncomplicated nature makes him such a good catalyst for all this, especially when that candor reverses and comes back to him. I found it so touching when Sun-jae dragged him out of his grief-stricken stupor, all harsh words and saying what needed to be said, but there was never any doubt that it came from a place of real concern.

I actually have a vision for how I want the show to play out: A full arc for the present, where both killers are caught and our main characters live awkwardly ever after, followed by a handful of episodes where Kwang-ho goes back to catch Mok in his own timeline, which would reset the entire trajectory of the future. And then a flash-forward to the new 2016 timeline, where a happier, less broken Jae-yi meets a happier, less broken Sun-jae, who has to win the approval of her stern (verrrry stern!) father. So basically yes, I want to have my cake and eat it too. Happy endings for everyone!

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Am I the only one who think that the Big Dipper comment between Kwang-ho and Sung-sik could turn out to be something important to the case? I know it's silly at the moment, but them suddenly remembering it again in the middle of serious discussion kept niggling at my mind.

I also need to organize my thought more on the whole Dr. Mok and Jung Ho-young case. I think while Jae-yi might be true about Ho-young playing a game with Sun-jae, she could be very wrong to deduce that those murders started because of Sun-jae's comment. Ho-young could be still in hiding at that time and the latest 3 murders were done by other culprit which is Dr. Mok. He could be purposefully using different methods for each case to disturb the course of investigation. If that's true, Jae-yi's 2 possible conclusions about why Ho-young called Sun-jae would make more sense. Because Ho-young isn't the one responsible for both murders.

But what about the murders from 30 years ago? Are those also committed by Ho-young? He seemed really enjoyed strangling someone from his admission in the psychiatric ward. But he never really said anything about women in skirts or his desire to kill them. Could it be that Dr. Mok was the one who did that killing? After all, he is almost the same age as Ho-young, right? Could he be someone Kwang-ho overlooked back then?

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I agree. I had the same thought as you when they mentioned the Big Dipper again. Surely it can't be played just for laughs! Maybe the final dot is where the next killing/murder will occur?

And yea I'm confused with that too.
So it's Dr Mok who marks his victims with the dots. But I thought he was also obsessed with killing women with skirts and stockings.
Now they're saying it's Ho-young who murders women wearing skirts...I'm so confused!
As for the dots: so there are 8 victims with the dots so far? Does that mean all 8 victims were murdered by Dr Mok?

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If so, how many did Ho-young kill?

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They might have mentioned the number of women he killed, but I wasn't paying attention. Suffice to say, he started killing since 2009, his first victim being his wife.

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I think they're both obsessed with women in short skirts, they share the same methods of killing but have different reasons! We will know Jung Ho-young's reason in episode 10 but I guess we'll have to wait for dr. Mok's!

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Ohh ok makes sense. So Ho-young may be copying Dr Mok's style of killing? Except he probably doesn't know about the dots.

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Yup, exactly! I think he has a connection with dr. Mok, maybe they know each other!

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8 victims= 6 original ones, 1 the one found on the river recently, and 1 this episode at the playground. The trigger is people started thinking he and ho young are the same killer

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Ok cool! Thanks:)

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Yes, given the dots on their heels - his signature, it's highly possible that all 8 victims are killed by Dr Mok. He is very particular about his killings. He refuses to be associated with other killers, and thinks he is doing the world a great good by eliminating those women.

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I never think that the Big Dipper is something important to the case, but like you said, it could be one of the possibilities

Do you remember the guy that Kwang-ho take note of in the early beginning of the series? The worker in the printer shop. We never got his name, right?

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2 different killers by episode 10 everything will be clear. As for dr. Mok's victims. It is the original 6 and then recently the one found near the river, and this episode at the playground. The reason he started kiiling qgain is because people are thinking henand hoyoung are the same. As for hoyoung, he isnt a copycat he has different reasons which will be revealed by ep 10.

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Frankly, I think he was triggered into a second killing spree because of his discovery of the escape of the fifth victim he supposedly killed. It reminded of the old days when he went on the first killing spree, and incited the urge of his to kill again.

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I knew it! Dr. Mok is our killer 30 years ago, while Jung Ho-young is his copycat only. That's why there's no dot on the heels anymore. What triggered his instict to kill again? Maybe because of Jung Ho-young? Because he didn't want Jung Ho-young to take credit of his killing?

While I'm cheering for Kwang-ho to go back home to his family in 1986, I begin to wonder what would happen to Jae-yi and Sun-jae in the future? Would they even meet, if both Jae-yi and Sun-jae live a much happier life in the old days? Because it might be possible that Jae-yi wouldn't be a teacher and Sun-jae wouldn't be a police officer

About Jung Ho-young's comment regarding his sister, I'm highly suspicious that the girl in Jae-yi's class is actually Jung Ho-young's little sister. Or maybe that's just me being overly cautious

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- good point. But Sun jae may study medicine or something and they could meet in university or something ...
- do u mean the student in her class? I think she might be a lot older than Jae Yi as she was born nearly 30 years ago. Ho young's sister could be easily 15 or 20 years older than her.

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Yes, she is too young to be Jung Ho-young's sister!

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... But not too old to be Ms. Dean ;) . Just an hypothesis.

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I think she is too old to be his sister! His sister is supposed to be younger than him but the dean is definitely older!

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KwangHo.

KwangHo must have influenced him/ his environment somehow since he stopped killing when KwangHo disappeared and restarted when KwangHo appeared again.

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You might be on to something here. I wonder if Dr Mok recognizes KH from 30 years ago. But the tunnel is so dark. I don't think he would be able to see KH clearly right?

It's possible the appearance of the supposedly dead fifth victim is the trigger.

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And it's also possible that he was triggered when people started claiming that Ho-young did all of those murderous acts. I guess maybe he wanted credit for it?

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>> We are really right that Dr. Mok is the killer 30 years ago and he did the killing again maybe becoz of Jung Ho Young.
What made Jung Ho Young to be a copycat? I think becoz he was accused for being the killer 30 years ago or maybe he witnessed Dr. Mok. He's not stable thus may he think also he can do (kill) that also.

I have a strong feeling Jae-Yi and Sun Jae will meet in the future if the past is reversed. They can even be close since childhood knowing Kwang Ho (JaeYi and Sun Jae Ultimate Shipper ??). <<

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Jung might have witnessed Dr Mok murdering one of his victims, and it brought out his darker desires. He already had a tendency for murder since he was into killing dogs for pleasure 30 years ago. He might have grown out of killing dogs at one point and wondered if strangling a woman to death was more exciting after he witnessed the murder, that's why he tried it on his sister. I don't think being accused of murdering those women 30 years ago had any devastating effect on Jung.

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I agree in that being acussed of murder didn't have a devastating effect on him. In fact, since mommy and daddy rushed to cover him up, it probably just gave him a sense of omnipotence. He was left off the hook wayyy too easy.

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I think it's because everyone started believing that there is one killer and that is Jung Ho-young, and because dr. Mok is convinced that he has a reason for those murders, he doesn't want to be compared to Jung!

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Dr Mok feels compelled to continue the second murder spree because Jung has become the more prolific serial murderer such that he is even suspected of the murders 30 years ago. Correct me if I am wrong, I don't think anyone made the connection of the Haein River murder to the murders 30 years ago at that time, so I believe Jung taking the fall for his murders is not the trigger.

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Seeing how in the past Kwang-ho used to meet baby Sun-jae and his father because of the murder case, I think it's highly possible that Sun-jae and Jae-yi will know each other as a child and become closer from a much younger age. And since Kwang-ho is their biggest shipper in the present timeline, maybe he will still become their cupid if he go back to '86.

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Then again, if Kwang Ho did solve the murder cases all those years ago there would be no reason for him and Sung Jae to continue meeting. SJ was just a toddler then and if his mother's murderer had been caught there would have been no reason for SJ's dad to keep popping up at the police station. The only reason dad frequented the police station was to press for the continuing hunt for his wife's murderer.

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I believe Dr. Mok is killing again to ensure Ho-young does not take credit for his kills. He needs to make sure his 'legacy' is not tarnished by Ho-young.

Dr. Mok seems to have some sort of moral reasoning behind his kills. I wonder if the trigger is something as simple and delusional as "she's in a skirt, therefore she's a whore" or something much deeper. Interestingly he spared Jae-yi's life by informing the cops of her intentions. So, he seems to be more of a 'righteous' killer, killing only those that have 'sinned', than a complete psycho willing to see everyone 'burn'.

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I don't think the girl in JY's class is Jung's sister. She is too young. Even if his sister was less than 10 years old when he tried to strangle her, she should be at least 35 (?) after 30 years.

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your first para, the (partial?) answer is in ep 10. He did said something. Lets continue in ep 10 recap later cause I have a lot to say about it~

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I need moreeeee Sun Jae & Kwangho interactions! The scene where Sun Jae was trying to hold Kwang Ho is GOLD ???

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Yes Mee tooo :)

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My heart fluttered when he touched his knee ??? Bromance for life

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I can imagine how inwardly nervous SJ is because he is in JY's apartment for the first time, and it also feels more intimate because it is the living quarters of someone he likes. Therefore, he needs KH's presence in the house, but he refuses to give it to him because he wants to play Cupid. Haha. I burst out laughing at that little scene.

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Me too and I replayed that scene for so many times already. Sun-jae was so desperate in making Kwang-ho stayed with them but Kwang-ho has his own reason for leaving him alone there ahahaha I can't with these two ♥

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Oh shoot! How did I miss that scene?! Lol I need to go back and replay that part! But yea their bromance is soo sweet and adorable! <3

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Am I the only one who will be sad if Kwang Ho goes back in time and Sun Jae will forget all these moments? :(

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Oh no, I will be sad too! :(

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Sun Jae tugging the pants of Kwang Ho was the most hilarious.... Sun Jae is so cute at times like this.... Kwang Ho playing cupid to his own daughter.... Wonder what his reaction would be when he knows...
Also the scene where Kwang Ho asks Sun Jae what to do to find a child and Sun Jae has already done what has to be done was sooo beautiful..... He is such a sweet guy... I am wondering why he is still talking banmal to KwangHo knowing he is older(waiting to see how this turns out when he realises he is JaeYi's father).....

Dr. Mok's reveal was expected and didnt have much an impact on me.... But i too wonder what the relationship between Dr.Mok and Jung Ho Young is.... Very Curious..... :)

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They could have been classmates or lived in the same neighbourhood

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The whole awkward coffee scene was hilarious, I love seeing Kwang-ho, Sun-jae and Jae-yi together, can't wait to see what happens when they discover she's the daughter they're looking for!

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Sun Jae was definitely way more cuteee ?

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At first they talked in banmal as a form of aggression. Kwang-ho thought he deserved to use it since he is older, while Sun-jae thought he deserved to use banmal because he is the superior detective. But when they started become real partner, I think the banmal signifies their closeness. To revert back from that would be a bit awkward. And also, while Sun-jae knew that Kwang-ho is technically older, he didn't remember him from the past timeline. I guess it's only natural for a relationship that started in banmal to continue in the same manner.
Though I foresee that the whole potential-father-in-law aspect would dramatically change that.

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I wasn't expecting Dr Mok to be one of the murderers, although I have read a lot of comments that suspected him of one. However, for some unknown reason, the dramatic impact of the reveal wasn't there.

And yes, I love how SJ has already put in a call to find KH's missing child. It's so sweet of him. It goes to show how much their relationship has improved from their first frosty meeting. I can still remember that episode when they were still trading blows with each other. Ah!

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Heh, that trouser leg tugging is so cute, Sunjae didn't want to be left alone with Jaeyi awkwardly. I am gonna remember that hand on KH's leg forever :')

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They already told us that Yeon-sook died but I wasn't expecting them to show us how, at least not so soon, I cried, and seeing Kwang-ho sitting in that room sobbing so painfully didn't help. I love Sun-jae for snapping at him and getting him out of that, yes, it's sad but he has a daughter to look for and a killer to catch, well, two killers to catch. I snort-laughed when Kwang-ho made that joke, aww, he's got his laughter back!

I wasn't surprised to see dr. Mok as the killer since the show's been hinting at that for a while now but I want to know why he thinks he is any different than Jung Ho-young, what gives him the right to kill all of thses women, what reason he has that he thinks justifies those murders?! And I agree with Saya, it looks like Jung Ho-young knows him, and has seen him killing someone before (Sun-jae's mother?) and that's why he uses the same method, he just doesn't leave dots like him!

Thank you Saya for the recap.

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I can't help but like Dr Mok. He seemed like such a benevolent and decent guy. Always supportive to Sun Jae...
It's going to be heartbreaking for Sun Jae when he finds out that the man he is so close is a murderer.
Hmm I am wondering why Dr Mok doesn't seem to recognise Park Kwong Ho... is it because it was very dark when the incident in the tunnel occurred? Or was he chasing Jung?
Then Jung would be startled to see Park Kwang Ho one day...

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On contrary, I always thought that Dr. Mok knew something important about Kwang-ho. He always smiles mysteriously like he is enjoying some certain inside jokes whenever Kwang-ho refers to his past life.

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Even if Dr Mok did recognise him, it's been 30 years. He didn't go to the future like Kwang-Ho so it's highly likely that he my have forgotten that incident. Maybe seeing him now made him remember the past and therefore he may have tried to remember if he had seen Kwango-Ho before.

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Are we sure he didn't go into the future like Kwang-Ho. We don't know anything about him other than that he is a murderer. I think it is entirely possible he has been going to the future and past often, maybe its how he escaped police detection for so long.

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I don't think he could have jumped into the future and somehow have current medical/forensic skills and a good enough resume to land his current job. Even if he was a forensic specialist 30 years ago his skill might have been pretty primitive after he jumped forward.

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Very very interesting.... many theories. May I add:

1. Probably Dr Mok couldn't see KH coz of the dark tunnel.

2. And Dr Mok didn't know his identity since he vanished

3. Moreover, the police records ended up in the fire. Maybe it was Dr Mok who caused the fire to happen.

4. He could have taken a respite from his killings as he went to university and started playing with corpses.

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2. KH could have been pursuing Jung, hence, Dr Mok isn't aware of KH's existence.

So who killed the 1988 PKH? Jung or Dr Mok?

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My vision for the end is kind of conceptual, but hear me out. I hope that after they catch the killer, Kwang-ho gets to go back to 1986 but we stay with the unchanged present with the characters we've grown to love. This solves the inevitable time paradox too - the splinter universe of the show's present continues on. The tragic pasts of our main characters have made them who they are today and for me simply seeing them in a changed timeline is effectively a character death. They wouldn't be the same people at all! The ending would be bittersweet; Sung-jae and Jae-yi watch Kwang-ho disappear into the tunnel, knowing that in the timeline he's returning to there will be justice for 'them' as well.

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I'm actually hoping that Kwang-ho will stay in the present time, "skip" the past 30 years and not go back go 1986. He's developed Sun Jae and the rest of his detective team, and will hopefully reunite with his daughter soon. He's getting used to living in the present. I don't get the point in returning to the past, would he try to fix everything and catch the culprit so that the future events wouldn't have repeated? Does he have to return through the tunnel back to 1986 after the case is over?

On a side note, I'm still looking forward the explanation to N's role as young Kwang-ho. How was he involved with the time-travelling or incident, and why did he die?

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"I'm actually hoping that Kwang-ho will stay in the present time, "skip" the past 30 years and not go back go 1986."

He is a good camaraderie with the present-day characters, but at the en d of the day, his wife died and his daughter was orphaned. That is enough motivation for him to go back in 1986 and try to spend time with them. I believe in fate that maybe even if he returns, his wife might still die in a car accident in the 90s, but still he'll have few years with her wife and be able to take care of his daughter.

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I am so curious to know why Dr. Mok killed Sun-jae's mom....

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i want the same kind of ending too @saya...i badly need that scene with happier sun jae and happier jae-yi asking for permission to marry from old grumpy kwang ho..it's gonna be a very funny scene. haha
i wasnt surprised that Dr Mok was the killer but the fact that he's killing again in order to show that he is different from jung ho young is very interesting. it's funny how Dr Mok thinks jung ho young is trying to steal his thunder and he wants to show them that he is better killer who kills for a reason. haha..I am loving the competition..it's a pity that more girls in skirts have to die in order to determine the winner. *side note* if i lived in hwayang..i will be wearing pants for a long long time till am sure the killer is caught*
sun-jae and kwang ho make an awesome team and sun-jae was so cute and flustered in that scene at jae-yi's house. haha..i have a feeling kwang ho will be more careful playing cupid after he discovers jae-yi is his daughter. from his character..he might get super protective and begin to seriously look to see if sun-jae has the good qualifications of a son-in law..i'm patiently waiting for the recap of ep 10 coz it was lit af.

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Dr Mok doesn't think Jung is trying to steal his thunder. It's the police who makes the connection between the present serial murders to the one committed 30 years ago. Furthermore, KH insults him by saying the past serial murderer has killed without reason, as if belittling him and likening him to the likes of Jung. Dr Mok has this superiority complex, who thinks he is much more than a mere murderer, and thinks his reason is justification enough for what he has done.

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Dr Mok kills with a reason.
The girls must have had something in common that the police had missed out.

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So if we have our Kwang-Ho go back to his wife and catch Dr Mok 30 years ago, wouldn't that mean that all of the events happening now that will lead to Kwang-Ho's return will change? Because its highly likely Sun-jae will not be a cop since the murderer is caught and Jae-yi will grow up with a complete family.

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Dear Mr. (Ms.?) Umbrella, please remember not to spoil.

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Dude, so sorry! I removed it. The problem when you write your thoughts on both episodes and cut and paste the wrong one. I apologize.

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I just love that scene where Kwang-Ho lounges comfortably on a cushion in Jae-Yi's apartment as if he is in his own house and Sun-Jae awkwardly moves about here and there! Now, Kwang-Ho is helping Sun-Jae in his romance but I am looking forward to the day when he realises he was setting up his own daughter with him :D

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Yeah, and I loved that he used her words, they don't live together, she's downstairs, he's upstairs! Haha!

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And I extra love the fact that Jae-yi now is really comfortable with Kwang-ho spending some time in her house. That just makes the contrast with Sun-jae's awkwardness even more visible.

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I think Jae-Yi see Kwang-Ho as a well-intentioned pest, but a pest at the end of the day. On the other hand, for someone that has been left to her own devices again and again, she is probably starting to feel the warmth feeling of someone genuinely taking care of her.

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Yes! This! I love the contrasting behavior, but for some reason, I just love how comfortable KH is in JY's house. He has come a long way since he first met her.

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I know right. It felt like Sunjae was brought home to be introduced as future son-in-law xDD

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Thanks Saya for a great recap and review!

I absolutely agree with the ending you wish to see. I want lots of cake and to eat it all as well! ?

The thought that came to my mind when that box was delivered was that it could have been a bomb and that the police were very careless in merely shaking it and then ripping it open. I expected an explosion all the time!

While I do like reveals, I'd have preferred if it had happened as the result of the hardwork and smarts of our heroes and heroine, rather than a direct revelation by the show. I felt it deflated the suspense and reduced interest in the show, since this particular big mystery got canceled out, so to speak.

I'm glad that there are other as yet unsolved mysteries to buoy us up, the biggest being whether and how Kwang Ho can go back to his own time and stop all the future killings. I look forward to more partner-bromance and the discovery of his daughter by Kwang Ho. ?

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I agree on the bomb part, especially at a time where terror threats are very real. But of all phones Jung could have sent SJ, he sends a freaking expensive phone? He really has a lot of money.

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Ms. S93, please remember that Dramas are but a muddled mirror of the societies they come from. As far as I know, in the frequency of the themes you can see what worries a particular society at a particular moment. I have seen many K-Dramas dealing with serial killers but very few (if any) concerning a terrorist attack. Probably terrorism is mostly a western democracy concern (as far as number of attacks and therefore presence in the collective conciousness is concerned). In other words, as a Western dweller your imagination is adding a particular layer a Korean citizen probably is not aware of ;) . See you around!!!

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It is a well known fact in dramaland that everyone from poor heroines working multiple part-time jobs to serial killers on the run will have the latest smartphone regardless of whether they can afford it. ?

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though the drama is pretty much about serial murder but like its comic stances very much :)

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Even though I was a bit disappointed about Dr. Mok being the main killer at first, I’m glad the drama didn’t try to drag this fact out any longer. Now that he is confirmed to be the killer, I really despise seeing him on my screen. There is still a lot of mystery left in this show.

Gah, I didn’t notice Sun Jae grabbing Sun Jae’s leg! I need to replay that part. LOL <3

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I mean Sun Jae grabbing Kwang Ho*'s leg. XD

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Yes, because it was relatively obvious he was the bad guy, it would have been terrible if they revealed it at the end as a big surprise. Would not have been surprising and would have just dragged out the plot.

Now I am hoping for some cat and mouse games. He controls the evidence so he can manipulate the cops.

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You should also notice how relaxed and comfortable KH is sitting in JY's apartment. He looks like he belongs there.

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When Kwang-Ho was interviewing Ho-Young in 1986 it seemed possible that he (Ho-Young) had witnessed at least one of the murders because he said something like 'is it ok to kill people?'. When he started killing women himself he used the same method but didn't know about the dots. This wasn't revealed by the police at the time. I wondered if Dr Mok had anything to do with the fire that destroyed the police records.

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I don't think Dr Mok has anything to do with the fire. Firstly, the trail has gone cold. Nobody has any leads as to who the murderer is. He has also stopped killing, so there is no reason for any police officer to pick up the cold case again.

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ohhhhh Dr. Mok I knew it was that man, I lovvveee this Drama and that Dr. is creepy... can't wait for the father-daughter reunion
.... next recap pleaseeee...

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I cant wait for them to explain the other kwang ho. Why he died, who he is, why the same name and how is he connected to the case... Was it dr. Mok or ho young who chased and killed him...

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I don't think it's Jung Ho-young who killed him! Young Kwang-ho knew about the serial killer of the past, he was looking for him, so I think it's dr. Mok who did it!

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The revelation of Dr Mok as the killer disappointed me. I didn't want to see it coming, I wanted us viewers to be completely blinded.

I can't help feeling there is more to it being just Dr Mok and Jung Ho Young.

Did the young Dr Mok appeared in the past? I mean besides him appearing in the hoodie as a killer. What happened to the old forensic doctor? The annoying reporter from the past and his lookalike detective wannabe have just disappeared from the story. Not sure if they are just unimportant characters.

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I am surprised they are revealing Dr Mok as the serial murderer so early in the show. Well, not that early, but still... The suspense as to the identity of the serial murderer 30 years ago has disappeared now. I wonder how they are going to keep up the momentum of the show.

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We know but they didnt...just yet so probably they will focus on chasing him and we still have young Kwangho's mystery on the back burner; how he knew about 1986 murders and his relation to Dad Kwangho.

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Exactly! The show did reveal a lot but at the same time we have so much mystery surrounding the young Kwang-ho's death, who was he and how did he know about the murders of 1986? Does he have anything to do with our Kwang-ho's time-travel?

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Everyone expects Kwang-ho to get back to the past, and Jae-yi's parentage to be revealed, because That's How Things Are Done In Kdramaland. Everything must be revealed and resolved. How about they mix it up a bit and maybe NOT leave Kwang-ho in the present and never let him find his daughter? Just find the murderers and end it.

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I keep having this vision of Kwang-ho getting back to the past, trying desperately to save his wife, and eventually driving in front of the drunk and sacrificing himself to save her. Gee, where did I get that idea from? :)

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Oh God, please no! Let's not make it that tragic!

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Why is KH's door always unlocked? I know he doesn't have any valuables lying around for burglars, but still...

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Old habits die hard. We didn't lock our doors in the 80s either.

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I don't know if anyone has commented on the constant presence of the chessboard in this drama. I understand the symbolic importance to the plot but I do wonder how Dr. Mok manages to constantly play chess in his office. I should put a chessboard on my desk and see how long I get away with it.

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What i love about the show is its characters and their relationship with eachother(fav-sungshik and kwang ho).
I think the last time i was this invested in any show is I remember you.Though the story is not new but still i love every min of the show.Its not better than signal but i still like it more??

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I read that red paint incident in chinese novel "memory lost" though with slight difference..

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@saya, thank you for the recap! I love your hypothetical trajectory for this drama, and now I also want that. This is the show I wait for every week, but I miss being able to binge watch shows. I may have to do that with this one once it ends!

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How did Jung Ho-young get out of the mental ward, have enough money to buy a place in Gangnam and convinced someone to marry him if everything about him when he was young was so disturbing. The doctor treated him seemed disturbed by him too so what happened that change everything to make him a normal citizen again?

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Dunno how he got out but didnt he had a wealthy family? Probably that how he got money for everything.

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Ohhh.. I liking this week episodes so much, especially ep 10 but lets focus in ep 9 first. The opening tho, when she crawled out from the car...that was sad.

No surprise about Dr Mok being the 1986 serial killers but now that we know there are 2 serial killers, I really need to make a timeline who did what and when. I know that the first 5 and a survivor in 1985-1986 was Dr. Mok's but I'm not sure when JHY started. His wife probably was the first victim but I kinda missed the part when she was killed/missing. She went missing for 2 years before they found her body right? I need to rewatch past eps for that. And JHY also had been killing people in current years, that is how he is on Sunjae radar. Dr started again and killed Haein river and playground victim totaling his victim to 7. JHY killed the student but I didnt know his total. ermmm.....

I also interested how JHY and Dr's life cross path in the path since their method of killing is the same. The way Dr reacted in the last scene doesnt indicate that he knows JHY personally though, he just pissed with Sunjae's remark and JHY is taking all the credit.

Honestly, I keep on thinking whether should PKH continue living in current time or return to his time. Returning means catching the criminal and potentially saving more women, saving his wife & child. And Sunjae & Jaeyi's future probably will be different. However, we didnt get any indication of how things works yet.

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That was sad, especially her voiceover, when she said that she didn't want leave her daughter like he left her, just waiting, that was heartbreaking!

And about Jung Ho-young, his first victim was his wife in 2009, she disappeared for 8 months before they discovered her dead, he killed someone again after 2 years and again after another 2 years, I guess that's how Sun-jae was explaining it!

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Looking forward Jae Couple (Sun-jae & Jae-yi) with a blessing from grumpy Daddy Kwang-ho TT

Still can't accept the fact that Dr. Mok is the series killer. I mean yepppp he's the killer but my heart tells that he's not suppose to be the killer. It's so predictable which is not fun anymore. There's something about him which is not right to be portrait as series killer.

Sung-shik is really cute dongsaeng. When he was young he's clumsy cute and when he already old he still cute. His affection toward Kwang-ho is no joke. In the 1st episode it crossed in my mind that it would be damn fun if he's the series killer HAHAHAHA *foolme

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So I was right when I thought this is like Gap Dong with the original killer and the copycat. And because of that similarity with Gap Dong, I don't think Jung Ho-young is as old as Dr Mok, like maybe Dr Mok is a few years older.. I assumed Jung Ho-young saw Dr Mok killed his victim (perhaps Sun-jae's mom) and then got inspired and tried it to his little sister.

There's still the mystery about the 88liner Kwang-ho. What was his connection with this case and that handphone that was abandoned near his grandmom's house.

Oh Sun-jae you big grumpy teddybear.. I'm so gonna miss him arguing with Kwang-ho if Kwang-ho ends up being sent back to the past. Where else could you find a son-in-law-to-be as rude as him to Kwang-ho :D But honestly, their relationship is becoming so much sweeter lately. If Kwang-ho is sent back to the past after he finishes his business in the present, then what will happen to my precious bromance? T^T Other than that, maybe Kwang-ho really belongs to the past.

Oh the dillemma. On one hand I want him to go back to the past and change all of the sad things happened but at what cost? I'll be really happy if we can eat all of those cakes but isn't time-travel type of drama usually has consequences if the hero is able to change the past?

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My theory is that Dr Mok is the guy from the print shop where the girl from the coffee shop used to go. When Park Kwang Ho went to investigate, they guy that the owner said the girl liked was acting a little strange. And the woman serial killer did say the the girl (who's happened to be her friend) was a pants girl until a guy told her she would look cute with a skirt. And when they found her dead, she was wearing a skirt. Usually women don't change their style unless they get complimented by the guy one likes.
I'm sorry I used the term "coffee girl" but i just couldn't remember her name!

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