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Open Thread #504

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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all right, hi again, I am back from my not so long, but a very loooooooong trip. Route was Tallinn > Stockholm > Denmark (THE bridge and two ferries, short trip to Lolland had best coffee ever, do ride that ferry!) > then Germany on another ferry (lots of seafaring) > Lübeck (boats and marzipan!) > Hamburg (boat ride through the docks, very interesting, Elbe Filharmonie and bought steampunk shoes!) > Magdeburg (Hundertwasser and too many roses) > Wittenberg (why do the germans close all public toilets at 5pm? new form of torture?) > boat ride on the Elbe and Saxonian Switzerland rock formations (they dragged me there though I protested and I just ran over the bridges with my eyes closed, they inst´isted it was fun! excuse me????)> Dresden (sunset and sunrise views over the river are so pretty, and stumbled upon a street picnic, got a free meal) > Meissen (jeebus, I nearly froze in the shop part when a tiny trinket cost 560 euros and larger things over 12 000 euros I am so gladd I didnt drop anything, I was so terrified! The porcelain swan was 65 000 euros. I mean, jeebus. I never saw anything this expensive in my life. even a 2 cm pink-butted baboon cost 1000). Then Moritzburg castle, but very little time to explore and now for two days just riding a bus... to arrive home for a fully subbed Suspicious Partner.

I started counting during my trip how many drama-like moments I had. Running after a bus and breaking a heel - check. Sitting in a coffee shop and arguing - check. I also got water, err, beer thrown on me, but that was because the ferry started turning so damn suddenly. Someone walking in on my showering - they wanted to borrow foot oil. the glass was dimmed in the middle showing my shoulders and feet probably. I considered brooding after that, but our schedule was too tight. Getting hand-made chocolate for someone (a friend in another town) - check. Texting under the blanket - check. Elevator skinship- check.
I´ll have to try to remember the rest. I´m gonna have a sandwitch, havent had time to eat, only been washing the travel clothes all day.

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sounds like an epic trip so far!! hope you get the chance to brood in the shower soon :)

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okay, so more drama moments from the trip:
passing each other while leaving and entering elevators (but estonian eyes are wayyyyy too sharp to really miss out)
women carrying a whole truckload of heavy bags by themselves and men carrying single pot plants (shoul I say that one is a permanent condition for estonians?)
constantly watching out for possible perverts while wearing a mini dress (not that I am afraid of perverts but I am always up for a good fight. I´d like any excuse to smack them).

more to come. remembering bit by bit (I might have temporary selective amnesia?)

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sounds amazing, what was your fav part of the trip?

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we had lots of fun with a waier on a ferry, he was so funny and he was serving 3 decks, running up and down and yelling at his mates for being slow and not doing anything. and he tried to speak to us in russian then when that didn´t work he tried chinese for some reason. he also attempted latte art, but he did it with a fork. LOL. observing some local work culture is always such an adventure.

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lol, that is an amazing experience, i hope you could relax and enjoy during the vacation!

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That sounds like one hell of a trip!

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more drama moments from the trip:

I washed someones´ sneakers and put them to dry on a little chair. I only remembered afterwords it is what lots of characters do.
there were lots of runners by the river (but no ghosts nor murderers.)
hands touching accidentally
and just something I regularly do - scare people half to death with uncombed hair, but it seems to be becoming a trend these days, so...
setting a wide spread at breakfast
stomach growling near a handsome person.
having someone pick up the oranges that dropped from a shopping bag. well, actually grapefruits. I guess drama characters are more careful with grapefruits, they only ever drop oranges.
truck of doom appeared too, but in the shape of some dumb f*** who cut in line in a traffic jam and we had to wait for a chance to turn off the highway for another 35 minutes. The road was actually full of trucks of doom. they were all trucks of doom, cause they all seemed to be in front of us and none behind.

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Quite the interesting trip!

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okay i'm just so mad at suspicious partner right now so be warned. senseless ranting and spoilers. 😡😡😡 everyone is being very reasonable in the comments on the recap and a lot of people are saying things that find helpful, thoughtful, and quite smart. but i'm just SO MAD AND I WANT TO RANT. why did it gave to be bang? why did a psychic predict he'd die? without the psychic i'd think he was injured. even then—why why why?!?! doesbtvthe writer know not to let me get TOO attached to a character who doesn't make it? literally my only hope right now is @sicarius comment about this ep clearly being filler. maybe a main char won't die in filler?!? omg i'm so mad y'all and ready to quit this show.

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maybe he really IS injured. maybe they wanna show us how the psychic is really not a psychic. although, i hope that they dont save him and kill eun hyuk later :( I hope they save Bang and everyone lives. Chief Bang is so kind!! I was so happy when he was 'poached' to join Ji Wook's company haha

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that's my hope. it's just an injury. i hope i hope i hope.

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Maybe the second one will the serial killer himself...

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Expecting logic from a c grade show. even fillers of a Taiwanese dramas have more logic than forced romance porn.

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I think you need a car ride with a handsome second lead to scream your heart out

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this is by far the best reply i've ever received 😂😁🏆

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If you are referring to Eun-Hyuk, count me in!

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And I guess I'm the only one who is very satisfied with what just happened.

A killing of a major secondary character in a romcom. Hell yeah!!!

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lol i'm so mad but your enthusiasm cracked me up.

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This type of event rarely happens, so I try to celebrate when that time comes. And yesterday was that time. Hihihi!

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Honestly I have a different hope... The psychic said that two had a POSSIBILITY of dying... So he can have survived - just barely. And Ji Wook can ignore his heartbeat while desperate, right?
TT.TT

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aww yeah. you should be in the car with me and second lead. that's a great point. thanks, girl!

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let's hope everything will be okay as the psychic had predicted. After all, he told JW not to cry too much! *sniff sniff*

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Wait what? Chief Bang died? I haven't caught up with this week's episodes. What a disheartening piece of news. I like his character so much. Let's just hope that he was only severely injured and that he would be saved just in time.

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No he didn't die...yet...but he is injured...we have to wait next week to now for sure.
Fingers crossed that he's not dead!

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I don't really understand where the psychic storyline came from.

I admit the last few minutes of the show, I was ready to pull my hair out. But this element of fantasy/ supernatural abilities just seems so out of place.

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you and me both, spidey. you. and. me. both.

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Hope chief bang will survive. Like Man to Man's Lee Dong Hyun. He will. He has to!!

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I just think it's all around odd (and clever on the part of the writer) for this psychic to show up in 1 1/2 episodes and make such a big difference in the lives of the law firm team. Now the psychic is gone, and they are left with bits of fortelling the future which is extremely unsettling. And Bang, and the "do't cry too hard" comment, wow, it is a shake up for sure. I am so worried about Bong Hee, too. I want to believe taht her little scrape is over, but...I have a bad feeling. Why oh why do murderers stick around all the time and not flee?

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but psyshic said not the cry too much as things will be fine.. so he should survive

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I find the psychic story unnecessary too but I tried watching it with a positive mind. Doesn't it also happens in real life that sometimes in our life we are influence by superstitions, believer or not? I remember my cousins laughing at me for re-posting scary but actually no sense stuffs in social media and if I don't do that someone will die. I don't really believe in such things but I still do re post it for precaution purposes, I mean there is no harm in being careful. I think the psychic factor in the last 2 episode serves the same meaning. JW doesn't believe in such things, he firmly believes in logic and things that actually make sense. But out of precautions, he can't just pass by it without considering its possibilities. It shows that even a logical person fails to be logical if the risk of losing someone you love is high. The loose murderer influenced JW a lot to actually believe on the foreseers prediction because its dangerous after all.

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hi guys. i have a question. i know someone who is really stressed cos of work and i dont know how to help. it's easy when it's face-2-face cos i can just listen and be encouraging while sitting in silence.

but over text msges, i just dont know what to do. i say things like 'keep going' or 'you can do it' but after a while, saying such things just sounds lame and it might not really be very helpful. but not replying might make the person feel more alone. there are some things we just dont have control over but asking the person to just stop thinking about doesnt seem very validating because the worries/anxiety/fears are real. does anyone have any advice? thank you!!

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people just need to get stuff out of their system so dont say anything and leave it be. or ask them: why are they dissatisfied? is there something that they can do to stop being dissatisfied? what is the reason they havent done it if it can be done, and can you help with some part of it? dont offer to solve their problems but just assistence.

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thanks for your advice! :)

i think this person is upset because he is being impacted by what other ppl do. (He cant really control their actions but knowing that makes him feel worse). I agree with you though. leaving it be is best. sometimes i wish we have these convos on the phone instead of text. it's so hard to convey an encouraging silence over text. haha. thanks for your advice, though :) i appreciate it.

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I'm so sorry your friend is going through such emotions. Do you think you can call this person and talk over the phone, or use Skype? Earlier this year I had issues with work too and ended up with serious anxiety problems, and I found talking to friends/ relatives over Skype helped a lot. Or maybe just ask him/her more about the nature/ causes of the problems. Perhaps encouraging them to talk it all out would help a little bit. Generally I would ask my friends what specifically caused the problems they were facing, and focus a little bit more on details I've myself gone through where I can relate to them, to make them feel like there's also someone been there and that they're not completely alone. If it's something you can offer some advice on, the better, but I think just knowing that someone is there to share their difficult time would give them some comfort.

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thank you so much!!

im meeting up with my friend tmr so im hoping that wld help and it would give him the space to unwind and talk about it more freely :)

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I had a friend going through hell a few years back. I was out of state and felt so bad because we're as close as sisters. What I learned to do is just ask, is this a conversation where you need to vent or do you want my advice? She would then tell me and sometimes it was vent and sometimes it was honest advice. She got through it but, honestly, it was rough. I've learned as I've gotten older though, we can't fix the problems of the world.

Also, and it may sound quaint but when I was going through a tough time, this same friend sent me a card. Yes, an old fashioned card through snail mail. Having something besides junk or a bill show up put a smile on my face. Sometimes it is the small things that makes a person not feel alone.

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Also, I agree w/HyeMi...really hard via text because tone of voice means a lot in these situations.

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Seconding this! Check if your friend needs to be walked through her feelings and thoughts (i.e. just being given a listening ear) or needs actual suggestions and advice (a course of action).

In addition, it will be good for you to take a step back and keep tabs on how talking your friend through his problems is affecting your own mood and thoughts. It seems like his stress is going to continue for a while, because he can't radically change how he feels about the actions of other people that are causing him stress. So make sure that you're taking good care of your own mood and health, and that you're not becoming overwhelmed by his stress such that you may eventually be too tired out to help him as well.

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thank you sorrynotsorry and PurpleTeapot for your advice!

@sorrynotsorry the card idea is great! i shall try it. and i think asking to clarifying is great too. i always assume that im supposed to say things to make the person feel better but this is a much better alternative. i've also been in a position where sometimes i just need to rant without any actual input from others.

@purpleteapot thanks for adding in the bit about self-care! i will be sure to keep that in mind :)

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If I were you, I would first of all take care of my own feelings. If he is stressed, I would definitely not be stressed. I have to take good care of myself, body and soul. Only then can I really take care of others.

As a person who had suffered from overthinking myself for a long long time,I remembered that the thing I want most from someone close to me is to be on my side no matter what. So I'm thinking that by texting 'I'm always on your side no matter what. You can talk to me whenever you want. If you don't, it's still ok and remember that I'm on your side.' would it help?

I'm not so sure about this but the art of relieving one's own stress and tendency to overthink is a gift or a lesson which should be learned. That's why many religious teachings focus on 'mindfulness' or living the moment.

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Most of my friends live in different parts of the world so I totally get what you are saying. I find listening to them just rant their problems out helps a lot. Even if there is no solution to the problem just asking them questions, showing you are interested and not bored after listening to the same rant over and over, and just letting them talk about the problem helps to alleviate some of the stress. Try calling or skyping if you think they really need to talk. Through texts I let them text and make sure to text something encouraging to let them know you are still reading. Hope this helps!

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Sending silly jokes or cat photos can help - but I'd say that being available to listen is the best thing.

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Happy Friday everyone!
I've been enjoying reading the "Get to Know..." articles and the question about experiencing Kdrama moments in real life made me think about if I've had any Kdrama moments and I remembered that I (kind of?) had:
One time I was studying with a friend who liked me and all of a sudden, he got the hiccups completely out of the blue. I didn't think much of it until a few months later when I was watching "Good Doctor" and Joo Won's character started getting the hiccups around the girl he likes. Then I even saw it in other dramas too like Sungkyunkwan Scandal. Now every time I see this in a drama it reminds me of my friend and makes me smile.

Have you ever had a "Kdrama moment" in real life?

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I am just listing the drama moments from my trip above! I tried to keep track but had too much touristing to do

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Haha. I noticed that right after I posted my comment. Your trip sounds really fun!

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The hicupping is too cute! 😆

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Aww! That's so cute!
I've had a few, but one that comes to mind right now is that one time I was walking in the rain, completely drenched, and some random stranger tapped my shoulder, gave me his umbrella, and ran away haha. I was so shocked!

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Did he look like Lee Hyun Woo? 😝
#Liarandhislover

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Hahahaha!! Sadly, we'll never know *sigh*

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I tend to have more awful melo Kdrama events happen to me. I'll go ahead and share because it's been so long ago, but I was dating a guy for about 6 months. It was long distance for his job. We always face timed whenever I wanted, and he never seemed like he was hiding something or being sketchy about anything. He even visited me once very month and kept saying how he wanted me to come visit him as soon as I could get off of work. Imagine my surprise when I randomly get a text from his phone of, "who are you? This is his wife." Yes, the guy was married. And I felt like such a fool.

Another one would be when my high school sweetheart randomly called me after a year of not talking, wanting to meet up as he had something important to say. He ends up telling me that he broke up with his girlfriend because he kept having vivid dreams of me and him at our wedding. haha I have more but I think those are the most "drama" moments.

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Do the unfortunate Kdrama moments count? I really feel the lead when she's dead tired after work falling asleep at the bus stop to only wake up as her bus goes by. I know, I was only closing my eyes for a second too.

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I saw killing - major character(which I like because it shows how brave the writer is) - i haven't watched it yet so i can't go any further lol but i think that's cool ooo.
Im waiting for the day a kdrama would go 'game of thrones' and kill the main male or female lead in the middle of the show. That'll be a sight to behold though greatly sorrowful

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Yes! Yes! Yes!

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We don't know yet for sure of the character is dead. So, don't get your hopes up.

Let's wait next week if our wish comes true.

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Ugh, just wait until you care about said character. It isn't so easy!!!

But, yes, I kind of admire the show's guts. People can say all they want about this being a rom-com...but a killer's been on the loose since episode 1! This show just isn't messing around.

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Happy Friday everyone! It's my first time on Open Thread *shy wave* I figured from earlier OTs that it's a bit like a "What I'm Watching" so... giving this a (spoiler-free) shot!

Fight My Way: I watched half of Ep7 but I read ahead for the recap so I saw what went down with Moobin. I love the main characters but I wish the writer did something better with the side characters, instead of making them so easy to hate and then toss aside. Maybe it's because I just came out of watching TLAHL and Bubblegum, where there were deeply flawed characters but no evil, jerkface ones, but there seems to be a giant split down the middle of FMW in which the good characters are lovely and complex, but the antagonists all flat and evil. Not a fan of that.

Weightlifting Fairy: Yes, I am so late to this! I'm a Ep6 and enjoying how Joonhyung and Bokjoo's relationship is developing slowly. The show isn't really keeping me on my toes, but it's more on me than the show, I have an uncanny ability to not binge-watch dramas. And all these side characters from tVn dramas I've watched keep popping up, it's amusing.

Reply 1988: Yes, I am late to this too. I can tell the Who's the Daddy is going to have a total cop-out ending because of the charms of a certain puppy-eyed actor, but I like the focus on family relationships and the friendship between the mums. I'm watching this with my mum actually, and it's the second drama I'm watching with her. The first was Goong/ Princess Hours, which happened to be our first Kdrama of all time.

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Hero worship is strong in Fight for My Way. Hero side is from heaven and everyone else is dancing to the tunes of Desires. Rather than exploring Ae Ra's character, Writer takes another shortcut/easy step and makes moo-bin the villain. He was a scapegoat and thrown out of the bus. Only if Characters could sue their creators. I don't think even main characters have much to provide. At best all of them are cardboard cut characters with a shinny tag of being unemployed.

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I only just finished watching WFKBJ lately, and really loved it. Planning on reading the recaps soon, to relive it a bit!

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What drama is that? Does it have happy ending?:))

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Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Ju

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WFKBJ is so ridiculously sweet, I loved it! I also didn't binge watch it, but it's just such a nice, feel-good drama that I was OK with not knowing what was going to happen right away...I just enjoyed the budding relationship between those two <3

I didn't watch Reply 1988...I think it was enough for me with the 97 and 94 ones!

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I haven't watched 1994, but one key difference between 1997 and 1988 is that 97 focused more on the "Who's the Daddy"/ the love story, but 1988 wove together the stories of the different generations, and each episode so far has been family-themed. I can't give a solid recommendation yet, but so far I'm really liking the sense of community that 1988 is bringing out (:

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Welcome to your first OT!
For FMW, I keep waiting for HR to get fleshed out and will be really disappointed if we never learn her back story. Moo Bin was sufficiently complex for me since our story is concentrating on the plight of Korean youth who are fighting for success every step of the way. We saw his background since high school and had exposure to his thinking, friends etc. Hye Ran is still completely flat and without motivation as you say. Everyone seems content hating her but I'd still like to get her story.

Reply 1988 for me was about the neighborhood and the families. I think letting it become about one romance pretty much wastes the best parts of the show, so you and your Mom are on the right track in my book 😁 Isn't it delightful and heartwarming?

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watching Reply 1988 I watched with more dedication and skipped less and found all of the parents truly charming people. at first watch Jung Hwans´ dad seemed like a really annoying guy but the second time his worn tank top and earnest nature really affected me.

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The parents' stories are the best part of Reply 1988 and I truly enjoyed them :).

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I laughed and cringed at the same time whenever he appeared with his gags, but even if I couldn't take him seriously, it was clear that his love for his family is real and he never stops doing things to express that. The melted ice cream scene broke my heart, but Junghwan playing along with his President Kim gag (with supreme awkwardness) pieced it back together :')

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Welcome, Purple Teapot,
Those are three really fun kdramas to be watching at the same time! Isn't it nice to have a place to share comments and read up on, well, whatever OT threaders want to discuss! I haven't gone back and re-watched Weightlifting Fairy, but I am tempted! Oh, have you seen Strong Woman Do Bong Soon or Beautiful Gong Shim? I think they both fall in the category of kdramas that you've listed here - good through and through with plenty of what makes kdramas so lovable.

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Ah thank you for the recs! SWDBS wasn't my cup of tea (I suffered through the whole thing because I chose to review it for the Kpop site I write for), but I will give Beautiful Gongshim a go (: I do love cute, funny and sweet dramas, I have Shopping King Louie on my to-watch list too.

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<I love the main characters but I wish the writer did something better with the side characters, instead of making them so easy to hate and then toss aside

This is sort of why I dropped Fight My Way (or rather, I just didn't feel the urge to watch new episodes, so it just sort of fell of my watch list).

The lead characters are great, but the lack of creativity of the writers just bores me... as if they could come up with nothing other than love rivals for our leads to face their feelings. And of course the love rivals have to be hateful and pretty one-note. It's like there's nothing else in kdramaland the lead to catharsis.

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Yeah, I'm feeling quite unmotivated to catch up FMW too, I might keep up with Lollypip's recaps to see how the rest of the show goes before deciding whether to finish it.

The disparity between the leads and the love rivals had me wondering whether it could be a timeline problem. The promotional material didn't start dropping until really near the start date, and they pushed back the premiere, so it feels like the live-shoot/ production is cutting it very close. Maybe if the writer had more time, he or she wouldn't be falling back on character cliches for the rival figures.

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Welcome to OT, PurpleTeapot!

Glad you could join us!

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Thank you! OTs are fun, I'll try to come by more often ^^

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I always want to talk about a lot of shows, I keep it in mind until OT, and then my brain reduced it & remain me only 10% of the memory when OT comes, like today. Anyone else like me?

1. I finished 38 Force Unit. A-MAZING.
I'm glad I watch this racing it crazy, 2days no sleep no food. This drama beats so fast, u think it will slow down near final? Nope, they race faster & faster, killin' it! I love SIG sexy sleeky con, but why my heart want to squish Papa Bear? He was so cute the whole show :^^

2. GAG CONCERT Boom Entertainment. I regret rewatchg this, I keep saying "Janna janna, channa.. the whole day haha.. Seogija KJunho is cutiepie.

3. BIG HITS
I fall harder than I thought....for Kim Min Jae. lol. His rap & dance are smokin hot. How old is he again? He is like YJG twins and his deep voice is similar with Song JoongKi

4. Anyone watched Awl? I want similar drama like Signal Tunnel, 38PU, Bad Guys. Anything else beanies can recommend?

5. is kimsohyun also enlisting? He only does one recent movie

6. I know Ruler is a mess, but I really want to pick this.. but.. I'm scared will wasting my time investing/rooting the wrong charc....
Sighed

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I have the same problem, not only on OT. Or I am late to the party or I have no idea what to say, so I keep it to lurking.
I make up for it by posting my thoughts on my fan wall (because it stays empty otherwise) once in a while. It does not matter if I am late there, it is all mine ;)

6.) I am skimming through ruler (because of a lack of time, not interest), and I enjoy it, but I am aware many have problems with it. We all have our guilty pleasures, I guess ;)

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yes at this point I don't hope for OTP anymore, I just love watching my charming YSH's face lol

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I am glad you liked 38 Police Unit aka Task Force 38 aka the show with 38 different title versions. no other show has been so unpredictable.

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I'm watching drama to keep me stay sane living in my dramatics life but somehow I feel like I turned insane because some drama twisted plots lol

Lately some of K-Drama is only taste delicious and yummy until episode 8 to 10 and then the story lost in mountain and the main character suddenly because octopus and bring the cancer to viewers. *sigh*

Okay, that's all my rant. Thank you for reading it and have a nice weekend, peeps~

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"Lately some of K-Drama is only taste delicious and yummy until episode 8 to 10 and then the story lost in mountain and the main character suddenly because octopus and bring the cancer to viewers. *sigh*"

I have been observing this for years.. Some shows even started to go downhill after around 4-6 epi. 😲 That's why lately I am trying to be patient if drama doesn't off to good start and watch at least 4 epi before decide to con't or drop it.

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Dropped sooo many dramas this year it's ridiculous!

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You're right! And, when the writer lost an idea, he/she just copy-paste from other on-going drama.. So we might see same plot from 3 different dramas lol

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Oh yes that's also how I feel. I am on drama slump right now, because of how many dramas has failed me.
Now I prefer to watch dramas when they finished airing just so I can drop them without having to waste weeks in vain.

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I think alot of them lose their steam around episode 8 and can't figure out what to do with the second half of the show

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Most K dramas could benefit from a smaller number of episodes, 10-12 could would shoud give a tighter drama.

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Finally I have time to finish both epi of Forest of Secrets and now I can't wait for next epi! I think I may have to watch each epi twice, first to feed my fangirl thirst with Jo Seung Woo's face 😜 and second time to understand the plot 😬

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You amaze me! Now you have ventured into the forest?

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Yess. LOL. JSW keeps calling me and I can't resist 😜 My drama schedule on Wed-Thu is quite empty (haven't catch up on latest epi of Ruler yet, this show is not in my priority so... have more time for other important drama lol).

Now I'm so confused either to re-pick Circle which I left after epi 2 (initially I thought to marathon when it finished later) or to start on Duel. sigh. 😳

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You haven't started on Duel? Please do, I am at ep 2. Then we can fangirl together!

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I'm going to start this weekend!

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Pali Pali! Yang Se Jong is waiting for you 😍😍😍

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😍😍😍

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Count me in! Yang Se-Jong stole my soul. I'm under spell of those freaking hot Mutant babies lol

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Guys please what's the song that played in ep 22 of SP when they were both prepping for their meeting for her to reveal if she'll accept ji wook or not?

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CT2017 - My Kiwis are out of tournament. Supported England and they lost too.

Circle is a 12 episode drama but it already feels like dragging the plot. You get the entertainment you want but story doesn't moves forward as much as it tries to portray. 2nd part is quite weak compared to 1st one.
Fight For My Way - Fairy Godmother. Bought apartment block + gym area + reprimanded the mall owner + paid hospital fees + acting like cupid. sigh. Cliche scenes galore.

Watched Kissing Cousin movie 2 weeks ago - A boring movie which pokes your heart in a few moments.
Planning to watch Thirst movie of Kim Ok-Bin and its trailer
surprised me with those explicit scenes.

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School's been less hectic these days so time to catch up with kdrama!

Suspicious Partners - Is it weird that I always feel super excited whenever waiting for the next ep, but find myself skip scenes and fast-forward it when I actually watch it? Also, still find it hard to believe that it's from I Remember You's writer.

Secret Forest - FINALLY!! Sub is available and I legit scream in excitement once Bae Donna appears in my screen. I like how it went so far, all character seem intriguing especiall Jo Seung Woo. Gosh that charisma and screen presence <3

I think I'll be waiting for Lookout and Circle to end then marathon them though. And I kinda want to see Best Hit just for watching Donggu in 90s outfit.

In music - Anyone is fan of Jung Joon Young? He will be touring all over Europe in September!!! This is such an amazing news, especially since he even picks cities that usually are invisible for korean showcase. I long accept the fact that Amsterdam is probably invisible forever for him, but at least there is Paris. Oh well. Anyone?

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I don´t skip scenes in Suspicious Partner but I am not as invested with neck and skin as I was with IRY. the latter really had a psychotic and eerie feel and the brokenness of the characters felt more raw and bleeding. the chemistry of the cast worked more in the direction of suspense but in SP it is more of a comedic chemistry. but I do love SP especially the office squad and I am so not ok with removing one from the equasion. it will never work the same way if they let him die.

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Just finished Man to Man and overall liked it. I know this is from the co-writer of DOTS and I think he/she did a good job fleshing out the characters and providing an overall fun spy caper with an understated romance......but, let's face it, I wanted more more more of our three leads together in the 2nd half. Don't give me Do Ha, Oppa and Brother and then not put them together. Oh well. I had an overall fun time with it, it is just I never felt any urgency with the results of the spy stuff...the world wasn't coming to an end. Basically generic Korean corruption blah blah blah seen it before. But a writer who can create such characters is one to watch for. One of my favorite scenes was the one where Do Ha was losing confidence and is told to turn around (I'll leave it there). I loved that.

Do Ha seemed so wacky in the early episodes but ended up being a grounded character, and I like that she wasn't a woebegone martyr to family issues but had a more resigned love for her father which I saw as more realistic and less makjang as normally seen. I also like that she wasn't over-the-top sassy/spunky as some dramas tend to do. Not a show for anyone more focused on romance but a solid watch. Sorry to leave it all here but missed all the conversations because I came so late to the party.

Lastly, I don't know how Park Hae Jin can move one facial muscle and still get everything across perfectly. He's never been a bias of mine, but I've always realized he was a good actor and realize here he can also do comedy quite well.

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Your last paragraph is also similar to what I think about Park Hae Jin. I am currently on episode 4 and his funny emoting and Oppa's silly antics are what keep me going.

Romance is quite meh though, I can't sense any chemistry between the female lead with any of the men. Kim Min Jung is not a bad actress but for some reason she irritates me so much that I consider dropping the show.

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Happy friday everyone! Does anyone know what drama the screencap is from? Hehe

I am so excited for the next Best Hit episode to come out tonight! Which means by the time I wake up tomorrow morning, there should be a subbed version available hehe. Despite my lack of Korean entertainment industry knowledge, I am digging this drama. Everyone is super funny to watch xD but I have a soft spot for the interactions between Hyun-jae and Woo-seung. I wonder if that bank check is still valid 20 years later?? Hahahah. Also looking forward to more rapping from Ji-hoon. A cheesy two thumbs up for this drama!

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I love TBH. I get my dose of laughter/ giggle from MSG at the beginning of the week, then TBH at the weekend. Can't wait to see what the show's got in store for us this week XD.

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I think the screen cap is from Blade Man.

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I'm on a sudden drama hiatus. Reason? Super Junior. I'm a 39 year old currently fangirling over SuJu. I can't believe I've only discovered them now. There was a time when I said kpop is weird, I'm not into that at all. Boy, am I eating my words now. I'm now busy catching up with 12 years worth of music, concerts, awards and bromance. Any ELFs here?

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Suju was the first boy group that introduced me to k-pop, I still remember when I was fangirling over Kyu and Sung Min's bromance. I was an ELF and a Sparkyu until about 3-4 years ago, I think it was when the members were starting their military service. I lost interest in k-pop because it's quite tiring to keep up with latest boy/girl group, in my eyes they are all just the same now..

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I was never an ELF, but I've been a Kpop fan for a decade and I pretty much listen to everything I come across. My favourite Suju album is their Sorry Sorry one from 2009. I wasn't extremely fond of Sorry Sorry, but it did catapult them to greater heights, and the side Bs off that album were great. Welcome to the rabbit hole of Kpop, but don't fall too deep! It comes with a lot of drama and messiness.

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I wouldn't call myself a kpop fan as yet. I just find SuJu fascinating and love their personalities. Their interactions are often hilarious though I'm not sure if it's real or just fan service. I think the Mamacita album was great and shows how their music has evolved over the years.

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You are not alone, I was also a fan of SJ (and Heechul) until a few years ago. I got very ill and when I got better again recently, I just never went back to my days of fangirling.

What are your favourite recent (2014-2017) songs of them? You make me curious to check them out.

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Hope you're doing better now. Heechul is my favourite too! He's just hilarious and definitely deserves his King of Variety title.
Check out the whole Mamacita album or watch their Super Show 6. I personally like This is Love and Evanesce, plus the other more upbeat ones like Let's Dance and Shirt.

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Happy OT!

I never thought I would enjoy Wonder Woman. Half of the time, I was in awe of her body. I kept thinking "I want that body! I want those legs! The face too! Everything!" Pity they had to use so many CGIs that were subpar.

I have a question concerning uploading of gifs on fan wall. Does DB accept gifs from giphy only? Also, why is it that I can upload some YT on giphy and not others? I don't think it's the size. Other than youtube, it seems like giphy doesn't accept other urls, does it? I have also been unable to upload SBS and KBS channel drama short clips to UT. The only one I can is MBC's.

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Ditto about WW!! When I watched the trailer, I was like 'meh', but I went to watch it last week and OMG...those first 20 minutes were beyond amazing (and I also found myself wanting those legs/bodies/strenght/badassery) I think that's my only gripe with it, I wished we'd spent more time on the island, less time on war (I never watch war-related movies, I hate it) but overall, I was happily surprised!

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I just wanna say how much I'm enjoying all the Getting To Know [enter DB staff member name] posts, and all the Dramaland Catnip posts.. Love it that there's so much to read everyday! And, it's so great that the DB community are such good sports, always so eager to participate. : )

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Hi Everyone! ....... I hope you are all doing well today!

Quick question: Is anyone here watching Thief-nom, Thief-nim? ..... I'm not watching this but I'm curious if anyone else is and what they think of it because I haven't heard or read a single thing about it. ..... Then again, the fact that I haven't heard a single thing should perhaps tell me something. ...... Anyway, just wondering.

Watched this week:

Whisper - One more episode left to watch!

Fight My Way - Ae-ra's remark that often a life full of experiences is not reflected on one's resume, was oh so true. 

Suspicious Partner - That a cheater ex-girlfriend can approach her ex-boyfriend and think that they can pick up where they left off, is astounding. 

Seven Day Queen - We know it's headed towards tragedy, but one can't look away from this show.  Certainly exceeding expectations.

That's all for now. ....... Everyone take care and have a great Friday!

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Thief Nom Thief Nim - it's a makjang and slow drama. I checked one epi, while the main casts are intriguing (well except the female lead)., I don't think I want to invest my 50 hours for such drama.

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Oh ok. Somehow, I'm not surprised about the makjang label.

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I rather watch Unni Is Alive (another makjang), at least it has some funny moments and not so serious all the time 😆

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Happy Friday Beanies!

Real life has been... insane. It's interfering with my drama life and I can feel myself getting crabby- it's like hangry but drama related. Drangry?

Between my grandma falling down and breaking her ankle (she is fine now, had surgery, but grumpy like mad) plus school holidays (the Boy being around and wanting Mommy Mommy Mommy!) and the Husband really busy at work... my drama watching has dwindled to pathetic levels. Barely managed to squeeze in 2 episodes of Circle.

I want to watch Seven Day Queen and finish Secret Love Affair but at this rate I'm never going to get the chance. Maybe I'm better off watching a k movie. Less investment!

Oh yes and Father's Day is this Sunday. I haven't the foggiest what I'm going to do yet. Oh dear. Suggestions anyone? Lol. I think I'll just cook something...

Hope everyone is having a better drama week than me.

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Looooving 'drangry', didn't know I needed it 👍🏼

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Drangry should be a word, yes!! It's happened to me as well haha
I'm glad your grandma is OK now, hopefully she'll have a nice, uneventful recovery.
As for Father's Day, I think you can never go wrong with some nice dessert ^^

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Sadly my husband prefers savoury over sweet but I'm not great at cooking non desserts. Lol. But it probably how he keeps slim- doesn't eat my desserts!

I'm sure I'll come up with something... 😝

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Ahh! I keep forgetting people who don't like sweets actually exist, lol
Seeing as you have a son, maybe something simple like a cute picture of you two? Good luck!

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LOL drangry! Good word. I need to use that.

I want to start 7DQ too~! The promo posters were *so* pretty and the raves I've been hearing about it makes me want to give it a try. *o*

Secret Love Affair is on my long to-watch list too, argh. I want to see more of YAI's work.

Glad your grandma is okay! I have no idea about cooking for Father's Day. Maybe a dessert that your husband likes?

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He actually isn't a dessert person. Lol. Hence my problem. I love cooking desserts but he doesn't like to eat them. So I bring my desserts to work. Haha. But still my problem for Father's Day.

I'm sure I'll figure out something before Sunday! 😝

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Reverse-Mothers Day breakfast (or picnic dinner) in bed? Coupons for his favorite Not-Desserts to be redeemed at will?

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Sadly he is working this weekend so he'll be up at the crack of dawn. And I really love lazing in bed. Maybe even more than I love him. 😋(Joking! Joking!) we also have a wedding dinner to attend that night... it's a crazy weekend!

But I'm thinking I might make tea instead... he loves Asian carrot cake so either I'll try to make it or I'll run out and surprise him by buying it from his favourite stall. And if all fails I'll tie a bow around my son and get him to give Daddy a big kiss. 😝

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Aw I see. The Asian carrot cake + tea sounds like a great combo btw! ^^

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Oh, LOVING the Boy in the 🎀 idea!!!

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Also, secret love affair is HOT

YAI alternates between being puppy cute (his dimpled grins!) and scorchingly swoony (the gazes and kissing scenes!)

I'm halfway but have hit the angsty part which I was hoping to plough through but Real Life had other plans.

But if you are craving YAI it will not disappoint.

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Funny story, I started SLA and stopped around 3-4 because YAI looked so sweaty (it was the height of the "dewy" skin craze, too) that I felt he was ill and couldn't watch any more! I remember several shows around that time where people looked like they were in the throes of influenza because they were so shiny ☺️

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He did? 🤔 I must have been too distracted by the dimples. 😆

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LOL YAI is clearly too hot for me to handle, even with just my eyeballs 😆

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I needed that word "Drangry" in my life as well. Going to use it from now on! I hope next week is better than this one. Great that you saw Circle, though! Spend as much time as you can with that boy, one day he'll be 10 and not want to do anything with you! LOL!

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"Drangry" .... Love it!

May the upcoming weeks be better drama-viewing weeks for you!

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What a busy week I had. The new school semester started this week and I've been away from home for a week and I ended up with many shows to catch up with. I still have to finish Suspicious Partner and Father is Strange. I can't wait to watch ep 23-24 because of all the beanies have posted about on fan wall. I CAN DO THIS!
Have a happy weekend!

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On a housekeeping note, I'm having to log in again after each time I exit the site. Are others having this issue? It had been working for several weeks with no problem.

On a viewing note, loving Fight My Way, MSG and Seven Day Queen. I've never liked Joo Won before (ouch! stop throwing things!) and find him to be an absolute ball of hot in MSG. And everything tells me that Yeonsangun is a maniac who needs to be deposed posthaste but Lee Dong Gun is so compelling in SDQ that I want him to stick around and, I guess, keep making Korea suffer 🙄

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Is Joo Won hot in MSG? I prefer him when he's not smiling, hahaha. I'd even sacrifice the dimples for his serious gaze.

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I never really fangirl Joo Won before, but I guess seeing him in hanbok made him look hotter. I even analysed his hand and realised he has pretty hand. lol.

And I think in this drama, he looks healthy (and no sign of lack of sleep like he always got before)
so he looks good. The benefit of pre-produced drama and maybe it is a sign of a man in love. 😛

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Huh? How and why do you analyze hands?

I have a fetish for squarish manly nails and big hands - you can say it's somewhat like a catnip for height difference 😄

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I also don't know when did I started to focus on his hand.
I think it was all started when he ate the chicken feet.haha

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I dunno what it is, I think JB commented on it early on in the show too (and I didn't believe her) but even in basically, dresses, JW is so manly to me suddenly in MSG. Maybe it's that he's being funny - ? And he has beautiful hands with super long fingers.

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Lol. "keep making Korea suffer"
Writer must be doing a good job as well!

Bah. I really want to watch Seven DAY Queen even more now. 😕
Time turner anyone? PLEase?

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"And everything tells me that Yeonsangun is a maniac who needs to be deposed posthaste but Lee Dong Gun is so compelling in SDQ that I want him to stick around and, I guess, keep making Korea suffer."

Heh! Right? ....... I had never seen any of his dramas, but Lee Dong-gun is fantastic in this.

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this is the first time I've liked LDG in pretty much anything! (and have seen lots). Seriously, I swooned at him in a big hat with a veil swept to one side, for god's sake 🙄

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It's the same for me. I actually dislike men in hanboks and topknots but LDG is looking so fine in saeguk that I am awed. He has a certain charisma that makes him very swoonworthy.

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There are so many things to extol about Suspicious Partner and Fight My Way that I'm losing track. On the other hand, not too sure I'll be missing Man to Man that much.

Suspicious Partner first. Whoever is in charge of wardrobe for this show is awesome. The lead cast looks so well put together most of the time, especially the guys. I want some of those suits and shirts! Fashion aside, JCW continues to impress. If he keeps this up, I'll be counting down the days till he gets done with his military service. The writing is pretty solid and the actors deliver the material well. If I had one complaint at this time it would be that the editing seems a bit off at times when they go from scene to scene. By that I mean, some scenes don't transition as well to each other so it can feel a bit jarring and incongruous.

Ah, Fight My Way. You're really giving Suspicious Partner a run for their money. I think the use of the childhood flashbacks are apropos to the current day storyline. Understanding our OTP's history helps make the relationship more believable. I also appreciate how the show is able to blindside you with one or two things--like ep 8's ending--especially when you have decent hunches about other things--like Moo-bin, although admittedly not to the extent I thought. BTW, Park Seo-joon is super fit. 😍

Man to Man, argh. Just argh. I mean, this show ebbed and flowed so much that I'm surprised I didn't get tired of it. I think the love story was the weakest link, and that brought down everything. I think if they hard foregone that storyline, or made it more Bond-esque, they could have focused on making the baddies and espionage better. I loved Park Hae-jin in this though, and Park Sung-Woong. Looking forward to what they do in the future.

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wardrobe of Suspicious Partner - some really expensive brands as it turns out but my guess about fair trade ecological and natural was mostly correct. Still like the texture of the fabrics Ji Wooks shirts and suits are made of, have you noticed how they have kind of a coarse structure and look almost hand-woven? Some of Bong Hee´s dresses are the same.

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The wardrobe choices for Suspicious Partner have been interesting.

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I kind of want to buy those collarless shirts for my hubby (actually, give me the suits too) and those specs for me (but I'm sure it'll make me look 20 years older instead of cute).

Watching these 2 dramas made me realise that suits set with shorts is okay for working women in Korea and doesn't consider casual - that's so nice for summer days!

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I really, really, REALLY want that framed print of the feather/quill/what-the-heck-ever that is hanging on the wall. I have spent countless hours (like 2 guys. Seriously!) searching for this print. Can it show up at my doorstep as graduation present? With the librarian action figure? And the Pride and Prejudice board game and I seem to have run face first into a tangent. Seriously. I need that print.

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That's s o funny, because I really dislike that print. I don't think I consciously pay attention to stuff like that, but I disliked it immediately. Another prop I really disliked was a giant shell-shaped vase in Blood. So, maybe I do notice that kind of thing more than I thought. Art - it's so subjective ~

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Currently watching 7 Day Queen . Squee, PMY . I enjoyed the youth actors, the adult actors hit the ground running.

Wife is watching a C drama,Return of Phoenix, I catch parts of it.

Returned to a J drama, Sunshine.

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Oh I was waiting for this the whole day. I just want to let you know that because of recaps and comments in DB I got 9.0 band score for IELTS reading test. XD I told myself that these passages are just like my fav Korean dramas' recaps and I read much faster and all those strange passages looked much more interesting and easy to read. xox

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Brilliant strategy, and congratulations!

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Hehe thanks @bbstl (I always see your comments but am too shy to greet you every time), I feel a bit embarrassed here but I really do want other beanies to know about this strategy and that it worked.

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Hi mmmmm! JB, gf and the team must be so proud to hear this!

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This is great news.

Reading recaps = study aid

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You gave a brilliant idea. I've been asked to help some nurses pass their IELTS writing and it was so bad because they did not have time to do their exercises. Yet I know they unwind thru dramas. Now, reading and writing practice thru DB is wonderful idea.

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Glad that my comment could be of some help :) I found that improving English reading skill depends a lot on the material I use. If the material is good authentic English, and the subject interests me, then it'll be much more fun to read and ofc to learn. :)

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Happy Friday, Beanies! Hwang Chi Yeul released his mini album "Be Ordinary" on 13 June (his first mini album after his debut album way back in 2007). He acted in the MV for the title track "A Daily Song". Many of his fans reckon the MV is like a mini K-drama, and we (being biased naturally) feel that HCY could, if he so wishes, try his hand at acting in a K-drama one day (in a supporting role, of course) Here's the MV (9 minute long! song starts from 03:37) - clicking on it will be much appreciated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSQmYh-kpHY&t=294s

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We often consider body language as universal, but body language in Dramaland at times seems to be culturally specific Dramaland.

Does your anger translate into fist-clenching? Has anyone’s hiccups been induced by embarrassment or heart-fluttery?

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Haha, someone on db commented that they had a friend who liked them and suddenly started hiccuping.

I've honestly only seen angry-hand-clenching as irl advice for little kids (so they dont hit sm1 i guess)

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Hahaha, good advice for little kids, together with "use your words" to verbalize you anger. Now think of it, when one is displeased (real or not) in Dramaland, one often raises one's hand in the air for the threat of physical punishment. Boy, irl this will not end well.

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omg, True Confessions: I raise my hand like that all the time to mock like I'm going to hit someone (who has done something silly - I swear that's the only time!) I just did it to a complete stranger today. Time to cut back on the dramas??? Help meeeee 🙀

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