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The King Loves: Episodes 15-16

As San’s two identities converge, she secretly struggles to protect those she cares about from any of the fallout. But she’s not the only one who’s burdened with safeguarding their family and friends — Won and Rin are just as challenged in their attempts to assist those close to them, and the repercussions of their actions come to threaten their precious bonds of friendship.

 
EPISODE 15 RECAP

Rin enters Won’s chambers and asks him to stop Jeon, who plans to deliver a proposal letter to Minister Eun’s daughter that day. Won readily agrees to the request and asks Eunuch Kim to provide him with more guards so that he will look every inch the crown prince.

Won’s request is ignored, and Jang Eui explains that because the king approved the marriage, Won’s interference will be considered open disobedience. Won knows that all too well and points out that Rin does too, which is why he spent the last six days trying to stop it himself. Won looks at his exhausted friend and promises, “I will take care of this.”

Back in the present, San finally learns that Won is the crown prince when he makes his appearance at her house. Minister Eun asks the prince if he has an order, and Won halts the proposal.

Won confronts Wang Young about Minister Eun’s considerable wealth, only to be reminded that the king already granted permission for the marriage. Eunuch Kim hands Won a list of Minister Eun’s assets, which was compiled by Rin. He also provided Won with a list of the assets that Jeon would receive as a wedding gift. Won reads out the generous list and asks Minister Eun, “Were you threatened?”

Won turns to Jeon and guesses that he needs the money to support his extra soldiers (the insinuation being that he’d need them for a rebellion). San lowers her head when Won approaches her to explain why the marriage must be stopped, “If your father’s properties go to him, it could cause problems for me. You can resent me if you want. But I advise you to stay away from a man like him.” With that, Won departs, and San looks up at his retreating figure.

Dressed in her normal garb of pants and a tunic, San walks down a street in a daze and thinks of Won and Rin. In voiceover, we hear her say:

“I wanted to stay like this. One more day. Just for today. I was happy and in pain. The person who was always smiling at me had a sad smile, and it made my heart ache. And the person next to him would avoid looking at me. When I looked at him, he would always be looking somewhere else. It made my heart ache. Which one of them made my heart ache more?”

San finds herself in front of the inn but turns to walk away and sees Rin, who explains that he followed her from her house because he was worried that she might bump around or fall. San admits that she would like to know how Rin would react if she tripped. (You’re not the only one.)

San asks if he revealed her true identity to Won, but Rin admits that he couldn’t tell him yet. Since Won didn’t notice her, San knows that he stopped the marriage only because Rin asked him to.

San wants to know Rin’s real identity, and when he confesses that he’s the son of the high-ranking minister, Wang Young, it takes a few seconds for her to digest the news. San apologizes for her rude behavior towards Rin, but Rin apologizes as well, since he and Won deceived her.

San walks away but turns to ask why Rin spoke to her politely from the beginning, even though he thought she was a servant. Rin struggles with his feelings as he admits, “Because you were the woman my master loved. He loved you from the start.”

Won walks with his eunuchs and nervously asks if he can just visit his father tomorrow, trying to cut and run. Eunuch Kim explains that he was ordered to come immediately, so Won musters up his courage and reminds himself that he did nothing wrong.

Won enters the king’s quarters to the sound of breaking pottery. The king angrily confronts Princess Wonsung about the torture of one of his friends as she calmly drops cups onto the floor, where they shatter. He fumes over her selecting the man’s daughter as a tribute, adding further insult to injury.

The king asks Won if he was aware that his mother had the man and his daughter tortured, their assets seized, and exile ordered. King Chungryeol suggests that she was behind his interference in the wedding as well, but Won asks for a chance to explain what happened.

When the king challenges Won’s treatment of Rin, Princess Wonsung laughs and asks, “Since when did you care about the crown prince’s friend?” Incensed, the king throws down a scroll and storms out.

Won’s mother explains that she used Dan to send Wang Young a warning, adding that she was surprised that he fought back with a marriage. She’s thankful that Won put a stop to the marriage and helped her, causing Won to worriedly pick up the thrown scroll. In it, he sees that Dan’s name has been included on the list of tributes.

Princess Wonsung reminds her son that the upcoming wedding between Jeon and San would have released Dan from the obligation, which means he’s doomed Dan to become a tribute. Won becomes angry, but his mother sternly clarifies that Wang Young disobeyed her and forced her hand.

At the same time, Jeon strikes Rin, who insists that Won knew nothing about Dan’s selection as a tribute. Jeon ignores him and wonders if Won demanded Dan as proof of Rin’s loyalty.

Their father walks in with news that a royal official just confirmed that Dan is on the list of tributes. Jeon pounds a table in anguish, while Rin insists that there must be some way out. His father yells, “The only way out was for your brother to marry. They cannot demand a tribute from a family with an upcoming marriage!”

Won paces in his chambers and then calls for his bodyguards, surprised to see a substitute in Jin Gwan’s place. Jang Eui explains that his partner wasn’t well and confirms that he’s upset about Dan.

Won orders them to bring Rin to him but then decides he will go to him. Won asks about So-hwa, since he still doesn’t know San’s true identity, only to learn that she hasn’t been seen in days.

Won hesitates, suddenly unsure about his friends, “What shall I say? What am I to them? They come and go with ease. They all say it is best for me. They deceive me for me, and leave me for me.”

Rin sits at his sister’s bedside and treats her fever with a wet cloth. Dan awakens and tearfully confides to her brother that she’s afraid. She worries that she’ll never see her father or brothers again once she goes to Yuan, and Rin has to look away as he confirms Dan’s fears.

Dan’s voice breaks when she admits that she doesn’t want to go, so Rin consoles her, “You do not have to go. I will make that happen.” When Dan asks for details, Rin tells her with a reassuring smile that it’s a secret. Aww, no. What is he planning?

A knock on Minister Eun’s gate announces a late night visitor — it’s Song In, who informs Minister Eun that he’s there to escort San. Minister Eun protests at the late hour, but Song In explains that the king himself sent a carriage for San, who is the only one from the household who was summoned.

As the carriage speeds towards the palace, San recalls her father’s warning, “No matter what happens, do not take off your veil. If anyone finds out that you do not have a scar on your face, I am not sure how much more you will be punished for this.”

Bi-yeon had offered to take San’s place, but Minister Eun had dismissed the idea because of Song In’s presence. Just before San departed, Minister Eun was prepared to tell her what to do if the king ordered her to remove the veil. San had interrupted to ask what would happen to the crown prince if her hidden identity was revealed, along with the fact that she and the crown prince were acquainted.

Minister Eun, Bi-yeon, and Goo-hyung were all taken aback when San had confirmed that she knew the crown prince. Minister Eun had carefully replied, “He will also be punished for breaking the law. For hiding you.” San’s thoughts return to the present as her carriage arrives at the palace.

Won looks bored as he waits for Rin and jumps anxiously when he hears a noise. He mutters, “That idiot. Why did he not come earlier? He knew I would be waiting.”

Rin’s outside, and he asks Jin Gwan not to report his whereabouts to Won. The bodyguard confesses that he must make the report, so Rin instructs him not to report anything else. Jin Gwan asks what Rin’s thoughts are, but he answers, “I prefer that you do not know what is on my mind.” Rin then opens a door, and is greeted by Princess Wonsung’s attendants.

Eunuch Kim escorts Won to the king’s chambers where Jeon, San, and Minister Song are already assembled. Boo-young sits by the king’s side as King Chungryeol explains that he wants Won to apologize for the rude interruption of Jeon’s marriage.

But first, the king orders Won to pour tea for the guests in apology (a purposefully demeaning act) and has them sit down. Won takes a deep breath to collect himself before he offers a cheerful face and promises to pour cups all night long if necessary. Aw.

San keeps her head down as Won fills Jeon’s cup. The king demands to know if Princess Wonsung asked Won to stop the wedding, but he insists that she knew nothing about it. When pressed for an explanation, Won offers that since he’s single, he was jealous and perhaps a bit hung over from the party the night before.

The king asks Minister Song to renegotiate the marriage, but the minister notes that the news is sure make its way back to Yuan with the envoys. Minister Song worries how the great Yuan emperor, Won’s grandfather, will feel about the situation.

San stares at Won as he stands before the king. Won explains that he couldn’t bear to send a young lady with a scar to someone with Jeon’s personality, certain that he would be angered every time he looked at her.

Boo-young tells Won that he has nothing to worry about. She pretends to be alarmed that she spoke up without permission, but King Chungryeol’s curiosity is piqued and he asks for an explanation.

This is the opportunity Boo-young was looking for, so she shares that she heard that a good doctor miraculously erased San’s scar.

 
EPISODE 16 RECAP

San kneels before the king as he urges her to remove her veil, but she can’t bring herself to take it off.

Outside, Eunuch Choi risks a meeting with Song In to report that Rin is with Princess Wonsung. Song In wants to know what was discussed, but Eunuch Choi explains that everyone was sent away.

Inside, Rin begs Princess Wonsung to remove his sister from the tribute list, which she considers as a rebellious act against the Yuan Dynasty. Princess Wonsung laughs when Rin offers to take his sister’s place as a non-service hostage instead, something that sons of noblemen could do.

Rin adds earnestly, “I will go wherever you tell me to. I can go to the front line, or I can even go to build a rampart or dig stone. I will go wherever you tell me to for as long as you want me there. Until you tell me to return, I will not come back.”

Princess Wonsung asks Rin what he will tell Won, but he doesn’t want the prince to know about the arrangement. She examines Rin closely before she admits, “If you became crown prince, then the king, you would have been a great king. You would love your people and be loved by them.” And because of that, Princess Wonsung admits that it would be best if Rin left and asks him not to tell Won anything.

Back in the king’s quarters, Chungryeol asks San to show her face, and Boo-young offers to “help” as Won eyes her suspiciously. She kneels before San and reaches for the veil when Won suddenly orders, “Let go of her.”

Boo-young coyly insists that she only wants to help and reaches for San’s veil again, but Won throws her aside, and she pulls the bracelet from his wrist as she falls. Boo-young calmly picks it up as Minister Song protests Won’s violence.

Won loses his temper and asks his father, “Do you really not know, or are you only pretending? Why do you let these wicked men surround you?” He adds that Jeon’s marriage was designed to expand his influence and wealth, but the king just ignores him to inquire after Boo-young instead.

The king motions for Boo-young to return to his side and takes the bracelet from her hand. They inspect it while the king explains that it came from a young girl who was interrogated. San learns of Won’s efforts on her behalf when the king shares how Won begged him to let the girl go free. The king even snickers as he adds that his son admitted that she was the first woman that he ever cared for.

The king orders Won to kneel and tosses the bracelet at him when he does so. King Chungryeol points to Boo-young and explains, “This girl belongs to me. You hurt your father’s woman. An apology is not enough.” He approaches Won with a cup of tea, and San’s eyes widen when the king pours it on his son.

To add insult to injury, Boo-young refills the cup as the king chastises Won for humiliating him with the cancellation of the wedding. He empties the second cup onto Won’s head as Jeon and Minister Song look on smugly. San can’t hold back her tears as Won continues to kneel stoically, taking the abuse.

The king crouches in front of Won as he warns that there’s a limit to what he’ll put up with. Won looks his father in the eye as he’s cautioned to remember this lesson.

Inside her chambers, Princess Wonsung appears intoxicated by the incense, music, and wine. She asks Furatai about where Boo-young was in the room when Won knelt before the king. He admits that she was behind the king, and when Princess Wonsung realizes that Won knelt before her too, she utters, “My poor son.”

Furatai offers to kill Boo-young, but Princess Wonsung reasons that her peace would be short-lived, since the king would just find a replacement. Furatai steadies the dizzy princess as she slurs that because of her, Won is abused and alone, and she’s certain that Won would be better off without her.

Princess Wonsung grabs Furatai’s hand to ask if Won would care for her a little more if she sent him the girl that he likes. Princess Wonsung asks Furatai to find her as she laments, “My son is so lonely.”

Won arrives at the inn, and the attendant reports that she hasn’t seen Rin in seven days. She reports that Jin Gwan was there the night before, but when Won asks about the girl who followed him around, the attendant doesn’t answer.

The cart pullers try to practice alongside the guards in the courtyard when Won suddenly appears and orders them to follow him. Inside, Won hires the two cart pullers to find someone, a task they claim they’re actually good at.

A plate is set in front of Won as he asks them to find the girl that spent time with him. The cart pullers look puzzled as they gaze out the window at a retreating figure, the one who presumably delivered the plate. While they try to negotiate their compensation, the meeting is cut short when Won spits out a mouthful of overly salty food.

The cart puller in pigtails reminds his partner that he suspected that the girl had never cooked before. Realizing what that means, Won jumps up to find the inn’s attendant and is directed to the kitchen.

Won opens the doors and finds San inside, surprised that she didn’t return to the mountains. When she tries to explain why she stayed behind, Won notices that she’s speaking to him differently. San suddenly remembers that she must speak to Won informally, just as she did in the past, in order to hide the fact that she knows his true identity.

Won tries to wipe away some soot on San’s face as he wonders why anyone would hire her when she can’t seem to light a fire properly, but she swats him away and insists that she’s fine.

They walk together across a bridge while Won complains that he hasn’t seen Rin in days and that friends should communicate when they’re in need. San is unusually calm and agreeable, which catches Won’s attention. He comments on her strange behavior and wonders if she did something wrong.

San ignores the question and asks for a job at the secret training site, but Won balks at the thought of her around so many men. San promises to stay in the kitchen to cook, which Won declares is even worse, ha.

San finally has an honest moment when she admits that she’s keeping something from Won. He admits that he’s keeping something from her as well, but San asks him not to tell her what it is.

Won promises to reveal his secret one day, and San asks if she can stay by his side until then. San explains that she wants to be there for him if he needs to vent or lean on someone, which, aww.

Won studies San carefully and then moves very close to her face, even more convinced that something is strange, because she’d usually kick him if he got too close to her. Won checks to see if San is sick and finds that her pulse is normal. When he places his hands on her face to check for a fever, San can’t hold herself back and twists his arm to create some distance.

After he recovers from the assault, Won turns San toward him and instructs, “Remember what I am about to say. You are my first. Once you find out my secret and see what I did and will do, you will probably end up disliking me. You are my first. Never forget that.”

Meanwhile, Jang Eui and the substitute bodyguard watch the scene from afar until a movement catches Jang Eui’s eye. He runs after a man in black with a black hat, but loses him when the man hides along a street. When he emerges, a tilt of the hat reveals that the mysterious man is Furatai.

Dan enters her garden to meet with a waiting Won. They take a stroll together, and Won shares that he heard that she was sick. Dan wonders if Won asked about her, but he confesses that he hasn’t seen Rin, and Dan admits that she only saw her brother briefly when she woke up.

Won apologizes that he learned too late that Dan’s name was on the tribute list. Tears betray her as Dan tries to assure Won that she’ll be fine. She tells him that she’s grateful that she had the chance to say goodbye before she leaves for Yuan in five days.

Won informs Dan that his mother is hosting a tea party in two days with a few young ladies and invites her to join them. He confides that he’s to choose one of the guests and drops a bombshell when he asks Dan if she would accept him if he were to ask for her hand.

Before Dan can answer his question, Won explains that if they marry, it could never be a real marriage because she’s like a little sister to him. She understands that his intent is to remove her from the tribute list, and even though she knows that Won will never love her, Dan can’t hide her relief and happiness.

Eunuch Choi beams as he announces each guest’s arrival at the tea party, but looks unsettled when Dan appears, accompanied by Jin Gwan. Court Lady Jo presents Dan to Princess Wonsung, who notes that the girl has lost weight. Once all of the girls are assembled, Won is called in—he’s clearly ill at ease, but he manages to nod encouragingly at Dan.

Princess Wonsung rises to greet her guests and confirms that Won will choose one of them as his bride. He is encouraged to look at the girls closely, and they giggle when he admits he would prefer to steal glances at them later.

Princess Wonsung notes that she sent five invitations. She knows Won invited Dan, but then she adds that she invited one additional young lady. She asks the final guest to step forward… and introduces Minister Eun’s only daughter, San.

Won’s mother explains that the girl was scarred in an attack, but treatment from a great doctor removed it. She confronts San, “Does this mean there was never a scar on your face?”

Won approaches his mother and whispers that she’s the girl who almost married Jeon, but she ignores him and orders San to reveal her face. San glances at Dan before she slowly reaches back to untie her veil.

As the veil lowers, Won looks up at San, and his eyes widen in disbelief as he gazes upon the face of the woman he loves.

 
COMMENTS

Won’s potential marriage to Dan developed more quickly than I expected. Now Won has a difficult choice to make — marry the woman that he loves, or marry Dan and save Rin from being sent to Yuan as tribute, something he’s not even aware of yet. Because as Dan’s brother, Rin would be excused from going to Yuan as tribute due to an upcoming wedding in his family.

As far as San is concerned, marrying Won would protect her from Jeon and eliminate her worries about how her deception could harm those close to her. But since she she hasn’t sorted out her feelings for the two men who make her heart ache, San’s probably not ready for marriage just yet. Won has no idea that she has feelings for both him and Rin, and he just discovered her secret, so he doesn’t know about the risk attached to their association. Gah! If only everyone could sit down to talk honestly. Their inability to confide in each other has complicated matters to an impossible degree.

Rin has been in the most difficult position as he tries to protect the prince, San, and Dan all at once. It was hard to watch him offer himself as a tribute in Dan’s place, willing to accept hard labor or dying on the front line. Rin already hurt Won when he asked him to stop Jeon’s marriage, and he knows he can’t risk damaging his friend even further now that he knows Song In wants to drive a wedge between the king and the prince. At any rate, it was a fine, noble moment for Rin as he stoically accepted his fate in order to atone for his interference in Jeon’s marriage, which ultimately imperiled his sister.

King Chungryeol’s jealousy, prejudices, and emotional decisions prove why the plot to depose Won is so politically important: It’s much easier to manipulate and control the pureblooded king of Goryeo than a king who has the power of the Yuan Dynasty behind him. In a way, it’s a shame that the king is so hateful towards Princess Wonsung, who’s such a fascinating character. She’s lonely, isolated, intelligent, shrewd, and brutally realistic. She lashes out like a hurt animal, but what she longs for is acceptance and love. Her confession to Rin, that he would make a good king and therefore poses a threat to Won, was breathtakingly raw. It’s her acceptance of reality that sets up Won’s impossible choice: Dan or San? Since she knows that Won is about to lose his friend, Rin, Princess Wonsung wants her son to have what she didn’t: a loving partner.

When I compare Princess Wonsung to the weak King Chungryeol, I can’t help but wonder how different life in the palace would be if they could get along. Unfortunately, Won’s mother is beginning to show some strain from her years of turmoil, and as strong as her personality may be, she can only fight alone for so long. No matter how difficult she makes Won’s life, his mother cares about her son, but the same can’t be said about his father, who is quickly becoming the prince’s worst enemy.

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Who does San love? I like that the show keeps us guessing as to San's true motivations. It's not often that a kdrama does that. I wonder if a kdrama is risqué enough to make a heroine fall in love with both men ? Hmmmm

Right now I'm firmly in the second lead male's camp as he's more compatible with our heroine and something about Hong Jonghyun's quiet portrayal of a devoted friend and loyal subject, just gets my heartstrings. I want him to be happy. At the same time, I'd like Won to be happy as well. Where does that leave me, I wonder?

The complexity of the motivations of this dramas characters is what makes this drama so darned interesting and they keep layering them with each passing episode. It was something Hwarang failed to do in its writing and plot. Hopefully the ratings will go higher as more and more people come to appreciate the drama.

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yes I hope the ratings will go higher at least hit 10%
some knetz comment
[+562, -21] This is really very interesting, do not be mindful of the ratings you must know that there are a lot audience who love this drama
[+513, -21] Ah seriously why are the people in this world not watching ‘The King In Love’ ㅠㅠ Watch twice or thriceㅠㅠ You will fall in love with WonSanDanRin.. ㅠㅠㅠ
[+500, -25] Viewers! While saying you all like this drama, please also let the rating rise to 30%. It’s a pity if people are not aware of this drama

butttt their positive comments didn't help much T.T
source :
http://mystarmyangel.tumblr.com/post/163981394946/trans-netizens-comments-170808-yoona-the-king

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I love how San is confused and unsure. Who wouldn't be?

All the lead characters are consistently relatable and intriguing so far. None of them are foolish, they know their responsibilities and they conflicts happen because they do care about each other. I like how Won said that San will always be the first in his heart, and she should remember that. He knows that as a CP he cant marry a servant like Sohwa. But now that Sohwa is San, the girl whose hand in marriage could either vastly threaten or strengthen his position as CP... I wonder what he'll do.

I'm rooting for WonSanRinDan to be happy.

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what makes it so realistic is how unsure San feeling is. Just like reality, no one can't get confuse with their feeling if there are two men who care for (her) at the same time.
aah.. Won's problem just get more complex, I miss the happier time now

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I couldn't agree more about san's feeling..
yess they deserved happy ending, but I am not sure if they follow novel, only rin and san will have happy ending. T.T

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Damn, what kind of situation is this? Leaving me hanging like this, you are so cruel, show! Btw, I was seriously amazed by Siwan in that very last scene. When he saw San, his face muscles almost didn't move (only his eyes widened slightly), but his expression somehow changed completely, his eyes were saying so much. I was watching that moment few times, I was that fascinated by it. Serious props to Siwan for that scene.

Rin is giving me some serious feels with his gentle, caring and brave self, he's just so good. SLS will hit me hard, now I'm sure of it.

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their acting are so good.. well done

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This is my favorite show right now. I can't wait to see how Won will deal with this--I'm afraid whatever he decides will make things worse.

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"Which one of them made my heart ache more?" Damn, the writer is so good making us viewers figure it out ourselves by San's eyes, words and body languages from all the time she was with the guys.

I think it's always been Rin for the man she secretly in love with. To me, if San doesn't love toward Rin, why would her heart hurt just because Rin always turns his back on her? It's the kind of feeling that you get when you've a crush on someone. You need that person's attention and you do all sort of things to make that person look at you. As for Won, it's out of pity, she likes him as friends and she doesn't want to hurt him even more.

The scene of San and Rin after her voiceover convinced me even more that San wants Rin's attention and concern which is why she said she should have tripped just to know what'd Rin do. But Rin's answer makes her hurt even more, plus with Rin's remark of her being his master's lover. She knows that it'd be hard for Rin to betray Won and be with her instead. It's time to let go of her feelings and move on.

As a woman, if the man you love keep on pushing you away, and there's another man you learn who sincerely love you, you might eventually give in and give another man a chance. That's how I take if San ends up with Won and we could see it already that San slowly accepts Won's love.

I'm actually quite surprised by Won's decision on marrying Dan to save her and I'm so proud of him taking that action. But the last scene changes it all, I wonder what Won's decision would be? He already promised Dan that he'd marry her. Dan also knows who's in Won's heart, so I don't know if Dan will actually give up and let Won be with the love of his life, or her desperation on not leaving to Yuan would make her selfish and won't let Won choose San. Even if it's the latter, I'd actually understand Dan's desperation and motivation and won't hate her because of that.

I've been rooting for Rin for all the time since the beginning, but I'd say that Rin just surpassed Jung Pal in Reply 1988 for being the noble idiot. Rin had so many chances to actually be with San but he blew it all away for the sake of his loyalty towards Won. Boy, I'm disappointed in you. As much as I want Rin-San to end up together, but I'd accept if San end up with Won because Rin never tried to pursue San. It's his loss.

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I just said the same thing about Rin's Noble idiocy before I read yours! But on the side of the bromance.

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yes agree, that why I like won more in this episodes (God, I liked Rin more before but writte nim makes me hard to hate won).. won more honest with his feeling, he decided to marry his bestfriend's sister to save Dan (when he had fallen in love with another woman), he kneeled down for grubby bracelet (in front of his enemies), even saved lady san (he still didn't know her true identitiy), and don't forget that he stopped the wedding to help his bestfriend not because his own agenda...
won supposed to be a anti-hero, but I have more sympathetic towards him, or maybe because won played by im siwan? tbh I can't wait to won's devil side to appear more and please makes me love rin more than won T.T

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But don't forget that Won is a prince and Rin is dutybound to serve him. It's programmed into him that he should always put Won first. (But...please get with San, dude. I need it lmao)

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He couldn't be with her, he's not a noble idiot. Won is the Crown Prince and Rin is in effect his servant. The consequences of Rin taking away San will be dire (which is what I'm expecting).

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I agree. As the future King Won can have any woman he wants and it is basically treason to take the King's woman.

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I think there is this thing that I wish won changes too,
I can't phrase it better, it's the attitude of Won that never told Rin his plan and never come to him if Rin didn't come, he always waits for Rin even when he knew things and knows Rin can't do much more within his capability.

This is the unbalance relationship, he always waits for Rin to ask him and spy on him while having the upper hand while Rin is programmed to not being a burden to Won and all the problem is actually coming from Rin's side.

That's why Rin can't say anything cause he is the problem, is he is not friends with Won, none of this would be hard choices but Won never told Rin too about the meeting his father and Dan's decision.

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Sharing the same thought over the love triangle. From the beginning of their meeting as adult, her comfort was always lean towards Rin. And she loves goofs around with Won. Then everything happened, the romantic nuance is stronger in Rin'a way. Its always the subtle, silent longing from San, or hidden meaning behind her words, but it all implies that she has romantic feelings towards him.

Won actively pursues her and lay his feelings on the table for her, so its natural that she has to respond to his advance. And that respond was feeling bad for him for not reciprocating his feeling (imo) so far, even before she knows he is the crown prince. He is a precious friend to her and she doesnt want to hurt him more.

As for Rin, sometimes San acts around him is confusing, such as when she confided to him after the dance. However, her monologue, as well as questions after that kinda confirming to me. Because Rin always help her but make it kinda clear to push her away, so there should be no misunderstanding on her part that he confuses her feeling. However, she still wants to see his reaction if she trips, or how her heart ache when he is always looking at other direction whenever she turns to him, or her last question regarding his polite attitude to her from the beginning. To me, its all to confirm his feelings for her. And Rin wont confirm.

That doesnt mean Rin is the end game, since his constant rejection and denial to his feelings, while on the other hand Won's active and grand gesture of love and care, could sway San's feelings towards the CP. Plus she has witnessed his suffering life inside the palace.

Rin could also change the favor if only he actively does something regarding his feelings. Lets see if he can do it.

And the queen is just fascinating and smart, compared to the inferiority complex of a king they have. A bad king. A bad father. A bad husband. Poor Goryeo to hv him.

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I think so too, San always leans towards Rin. She looked so disappointed hearing Rin's answer of why he talks politely to her since the get go. But then she also found out how Won had sacrificed a lot for her, even let himself get humiliated like that. She must have feel some kind of pity and gratefulness to Won as well.

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I agree about everything except Noble idiotic part. Won is the king but he is also Rin's friend. The thing is Won doesn't have any more friends, he would be against the whole world if Rin and San get together. It's not simply about hurting Won's feelings, it is about leaving him all alone because of his(Rin's) own desires. Poor Goryeo also doesn't deserve another lonely/sad king.
Plus, politically speaking Won needs allies, Jeon is strong as it is so losing Rin might be the end for Crown Prince.

I also think it is logical for Rin to push Sun away. He is Noble and that's what made Sun like him in first place

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I think what I took the most from this episode is that Won's mother is so very lonely, in part of her own machinations to protect her own position and her son being the very thing that distances Won from her. And because the King is an easily manipulated tool with an inferiority complex a mile wide he's also made her life miserable. And she's trying to give him a partner he loves but it has to be through underhanded means, she probably threatened San to be there, she probably knew exactly why Dan was there and tries to circumvent it and keep her plans intact by using Won's love and San. She's a very interesting character and I love watching how her love for her son manifests.

I finally enjoyed getting insight into what San feels. Now we know she cares for them both, but I wouldn't call it love either way, I don't think. Pity and a longing to be noticed when you're ignored. I'm sure both can lead to real love down the line but right now I actually wouldn't say she loves either of them yet. She cares about them and is concerned but that's it. There's been too little time, too many secrets, for love at this point.

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I like your take on San's feelings toward both guys not being love yet. And yes, I agree that both can lead to real love. The question is, which one? I do think that, while it seems now that San feels just pity and concern toward Won as a friend, it can develop into something more if given the chance. Especially so if Rin will continue to just be on the sidelines. San might learn to accept Won's feelings and might even return them.

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Om-goodness!!! Omo, and any other phrase of shock and surprise! How is it that Won was not able to find San sooner? She was literally right below the shadow guards' noses the entire time! He kept asking where she was and no one around him knew? Aside from this, o think this episode may have been the best one yet. I love Princess Wonsung. She's not a terrible mother, she's just protecting her son and she's trying to make amends for her sins but bringing him his first love. Too bad he's essentially promised Dan that he would marry her. Dun, dun, dun!!! Or rather Dan, Dan, Dan!

And King Chungryeol, what a piece of doggy poop. His rule was no chump change but I'm wondering how??? Upon looking up my own family's roots, he ruled Goryeo for 34 years, while his son only ruled for 5. There's something missing in the drama about this. I'm no historian, but would like someone to fill in the blanks here.

Rin is such a sacrificial lamb. How he lays down his life for his friend and sister was heart-wrenching! Ahh, I can't even...he's basically the (literal) "noble" idiot, breaking up his bromance and leaving as tribute and not telling his best-friend why. And leaving San too. Let's not forget that ?.

San also has no idea the ramifications of her carelessness and care free independence that she embraced several episodes ago. If she wasn't so torn, I would dislike her character. But she is, and that's what makes her interesting and relatable.

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I gotta agree that Princess Wonsung is not a terrible mother and she loves her son so much and she wants to protect him from all the people who challenge him from being the rightful heir to the throne. My heart hurts for her when she said my poor son is lonely and when she pitied him for actualy knelt before Boo Young (Gosh, I hate this King's sneaky bitch) too. I don't hate her as a mother. The only moment that I hate her is when she wants to send Dan as a tribute to Yuan as an act of warning or payback to Chancellor's family especially to Wang Jeon for challenging his son for the throne. But I can't really blame her entirely for that decision. Dan is a sweet and innoncence girl, so I hate that she becomes the victim between Wang Jeon and Princess Wonsung's scheme.

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I love how complex this story is. How everyone is a living piece of the puzzle and no one plays a trivial part. Dan is not your normal second lead. She's integral in why Won does what he does, which is going to be marrying her, which is why he had to make clear to San that she was his first. But what happened to snake-màn? What's he been doing thus whole time? I hope we see more of him next week!

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sompi user :packmule3 share interesting opinion about won... based on her post, he defended won and didn't like rin's dishonesty towards won, guys you can check it out before bashing wang won ^.^
https://forums.soompi.com/en/topic/391434-current-drama-2017-the-king-loves-%EC%99%95%EC%9D%80-%EC%82%AC%EB%9E%91%ED%95%9C%EB%8B%A4-mondays-and-tuesdays-2200-kst/?page=50
and next page (p51)

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@ frenchvanilla August 11, 2017 at 5:24 PM

Thanks for the pointer to :packmule3's post at soompi. I enjoyed reading a bunch of the responses and discussion on Rin's dishonesty. ;-)

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I only read the recaps but I gotta say the king is an asshole. Who treats their own son like that? I mean Won is still a prince. But I guess because he's half Chinese everyone sees fit to treat him like crap. Poor thing.

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My heart ached for Won in this episode. How he was humiliated by the King in front of those hypocrite,manipulative Minister Song, Jeon and Boo-Young. I saw and could totally feel San's reactions during that scene. She learned about what Won has done for her, that she didn't know before. That might be one thing that can make her fall in love with him. This is one of the things that confused me about San's feelings ><

As for the king, I was very upset with him. Won even pointed out that he was surrounded with these manipulative people, yet all he cares about is that Won hurt his "girl". Smh do you hate your son that much?

Won also showed that he's a great friend too. He did go and stop the wedding, despite knowing that he was openly disobeying the king's orders. he also understood that Rin was trying to find a way to stop it without hurting Won. Rin ah.. sometimes you can't do something all alone. If you need help, you need to say it. So I'm glad that he finally asked for Won's help. But he still asked to be sent for tribute T.T Rin :'(

Poor Won, I wonder how he's going to make the choice. Though that last scene where San revealed her face was beautifully shot and their acting was on point to. Good job!! Really loving this drama <3

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"Their inability to confide in each other has complicated matters to an impossible degree."
- Yaaas I can't agree more. Miscommunication or the lack of it among allies happens in like, every drama! If only they were honest with each other, the problems they now face would've been lesser. If San told Won about being invited in the gathering of possible wives, Won will be able to make a better and prepared action to take. Now, I just feel so so bad for Dan. But I guess the "inability to confide in each other" complicates things and makes for a dramatic story.

I really teared up during Dan and Won's conversation especially when she said that she's alright. Dan is the nicest and is so pure so it's heartbreaking to see her in this position. Dan is not even doing anything but she's the one suffering. It makes me mad at Rin for some reason. Rin deserved that punch from Jeon for not knowing what's happening in his household first before making decisions.

I'm still on the SanRin ship but WTH I think they're really pushing and hinting on WonSan? ?? Or are eps 15-16 just exploring WonSan?

San's confusion is understandable especially because she's young and is possibly feeling this way for the first time. Plus, who wouldn't be confused when you are surrounded and cared for by 2 charming men?

Rin should stop pushing San away. San's feelings could've blossomed more towards him if he's not always looking away and acting nonchalantly, it only confuses San which leads her to pay more attention to Won's affections. I know Rin's loyal and all but sometimes it lools like he's treating himself so lowly. He's a Wang for goodness sake!

Last two eps, I sympathizeed with Song In and Joen, now, its the queen I feel bad for. No one's really just plainly evil in this drama. But just when I'm about to fully sympathize with her, she goes on sending precious Dan as tribute and makes Won pick between Dan and San. She's smart and she knows what Won wants but this is what she does? She keeps on hurting him.

Does the king think he's cool and vicious cause hes not. He's annoying. Or maybe it's because I still don't get him. All the other characters' plight are unfolding, but the king's? Idk!

Also, I gotta admit, sometimes I think I like Yoona's acting when she's wearing a veil more than when she's not.

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I still think San prefers Rin. However, she is very much moved by the sacrifices that Won, as a Crown Prince, has so far made for her. I can't wait for the conflict to arise between Rin and Won over San. Add to that the political maneuvering and the simmering rebellion. I am loving this show so much.

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Yes, I think, since San's crush on Rin is still in its early stages, it can be molded and changed more easily than if it had been established; if so, she would be like a true dramaland heroine and choose The One no matter who the other option is. However, because it is still early, for her to see him constantly reject her and make it clear how much Won loves her, and then see for herself what Won does for her and people he loves, it is possible and realistic if her crush changes, since it has not blossomed into something steady yet.

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True, her crush is still in the early stages. The constant reminders that Rin gave saying that San is his master's girl, she can see that as rejection. Besides, I totally understand if she would be moved and touched with Won's heroic act to save her, as told by the king. I want Rin to speak up but I know that the consequences are not good if he does that :( Each of the characters' struggles feels so real

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@Pensola August 12, 2017 at 2:04 AM

It has been apparent to me from the very beginning that Rin knows his place, and will always defer to Won because the latter is crown prince first, and friend second.

Once Won expressed interest in San, Rin friendzoned himself. It would take an act of Congress for Rin to admit his feelings for San, let alone reciprocate them, if he thought for even one nanosecond that Won was interested in her.

I agree that San's budding feelings for the two swains could shift in favor of Won simply by default. Rin will keep retreating from San in deference to Won. It takes two to tango, and Rin won't set foot on the dance floor. It will take something truly drastic for Rin to quit trying to act like Switzerland towards San (i.e., maintaining strict romantic neutrality).

As I watch the situation unfold between the three of them, I'm reminded of peacocks. Won struts around in his princely fashion and lets his feelings towards San be known. Rin, who rates as a peacock himself, practically rolls over and plays dead in utter deference to his higher-born buddy. San's own tentative feelings towards the other two are almost an afterthought.

Although I think San has the capacity to develop agency in establishing and pursuing romantic relationships, I realize that women were essentially pawns in those days. The higher one's social status, the less personal agency one had in the days of arranged political marriages. Thus I get the feeling that females might have fangirled a bit over potential mates, but were basically passive. However, San is her father's only heir, and has been sent to study with Master Lee -- when she could have been concealed in some other remote location. Her father has given her an education that few women of her time would have received. To what end?

As a businessman, Finance Minister Eun says he wants to avoid becoming embroiled in politics, so I don't think he educated San so she could become a helpful wife to the Crown Prince.

I think it's useful to contrast San to Princess Wonsung, who is very definite about her feelings and desires. She's also the daughter of Kublai Khan, so she can afford to express herself -- not that it did her any good with the king.

In contrast, San has had to keep a low profile ever since the attack that killed her mother. Of necessity, she's been living under an alias for so long that she might not know how she feels romantically towards Won and Rin. I suspect that she's most comfortable in the romance-free "hail fellow well met" pseudo-bromance she'd been enjoying with the two guys -- until she unknowingly caught Won's eye.

Now they all have to grow up and deal with the increasingly dangerous politics of the court and kingdom as well as affairs of the heart.

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YoonA can't i called you - ACTRESS YOONA !!! ;)

Anyway i think Eun San love both Won and Rin as BestFriends ... See next week episode please faster ...

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I wish Won will choose Dan, for her safety and Rin's.

Sigh. Anyway, I find the king appalling. In the beginning, I thought that he'd be a complex character - someone who loves and worries for his son but is unable to show this love. However, there seems to be no love for Won, just pure jealousy for his power. :(

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I think he's a complex character, but not to the extend that we'd actually pity and understand his actions. I think he does care for Won as his son (we could see this in the beginning of episode when he said Won could've died if he's not clever enough), but at the same time, he hates him for being half-blood. Maybe the King regrets the decision he made when he decided to marry Yuan's princess just to make peace between Goryeo and Yuan. Now, he's stuck in Yuan's influence and he just hate that he can't do anything about it. The only thing he can do is hurting Princess Wonsung as apart of his hate toward Yuan. He's also afraid that if Won becomes King, Yuan's influence in Goryeo would be even bigger, and he's insecure and jealous of his son for having so much more than him when he's the King (y'know, King should have everything). The writer seems to explore each characters' motivations and reasonings in the last few episodes, so I hope that in the next episode, we could actually see the reasons behind King's behavior.

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Apparently that the comment about if Won was less smart, he could have died is a mistranslation. From here: bodashiri.tumblr.com/post/163616145191/

"King Chungnyeol : If you were less smarter, if you were a little bit duller, it would be mutually beneficial for you and me.

The English subtitle is wrong. What he really means is, the king is already aware of his son pretending to be a drunken idiot. The king wants to love his son, but he can’t because his mixed-blood son is the biggest threat to his throne (due to the Mongol empire behind Won and his mother).

So, he is unconsciously lamenting that if Won were a really dull idiot unworthy of the throne, their father-son relationship would be more amiable without any political feud."

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Thank you for this. At least now I know that the King is a complete asshole to his son. He's just full of hate and jealousy.

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Wow thanks for this! "Translations are sacred." -Okja Indeed indeed!
Now the king makes sense to me. I have always been confused of him because I was always taking into consideration that exact scene.

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Honestly, since Won already once chose San over Rin, I think it would be fitting if he now chose Rin over San. She would understand it as well, I think. At least, she should expect a lot of complicated anger to arise now that the secret is out.

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Me too, I don't feel for San much (even though I like Yoonah) her tomboish character just can't compete with Dan. As for Won I want to see his KK blood coming to the fore. First in line to suffer is that guard and then Son-In and Joen, finally Boo Young.

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I think san will be the one who ask won to choose dan after she knows the truth T.T poor san, after wang jeon killed her mother, now she have to saved rin and dan ..why her life was so tragic

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I read an old article where the PD said this drama explores what it means to sacrifice for love. Well done. The emotions are so complex, just like real people. San likes both men, but one she pities and the other she has a deeper connection (plus he's so attractive...). I've watched every episode twice and am trying to restrain myself from a 3rd go, so I decided to rewatch Scarlet Heart just to see Jong hyun. But came to discover the writing in Scarlet now seems rather cheesy compared to this drama which is ever so much deeper and well written, complex characters.

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I tried to upvote this twice--just thought you'd want to know!

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Off to re-watch Scarlet Heart to meet 3rd prince?

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Yeah! I agree that this is more complex and made Scarlet Heart seem cheesy. I guess what moved me most about SH was its scoring/ost.
TKL is complicated in a way that different things could happen if a character chooses an action/path but it would still make a great story. There's so many what ifs that are justifiable plus the characters are deep too.

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I thought SH was darker where there was drama. Only dowager queen's torture scene has been a dark moment here.

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Yes, but you can sense the darkness coming. It's been gradual but there have been plenty of hints of Won's darkness, his moments of rage, of jealousy and paranoia.

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I don't think SH story seems too cheesy, if we compare it with TKL, it is just because the writer of SH can't get the execution right while TKL can (plus they re supported with actor and actress who can act too)
beside of that, SH has complex problem too

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This drama make me angry to The King , The Queen , Song In , Wang Jeon . I wanna slap them so hard bcoz make my Trio have tragic situation !!! I want my trio have spend time together and happy .

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don't forget to slap that white ghost bhaha XD

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I really agree with knet comment
[+426, -3] If Won selected his beloved San, Dan will be in the list of tribute to the Yuan and his friend Rin will have to go to Yuan too. If he picked Dan, San who avoid from being in the tribute list will be brought to light… No matter what decision he makes, Won will be miserable..ㅜ

source:http://mystarmyangel.tumblr.com/post/163981394946/trans-netizens-comments-170808-yoona-the-king

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If Won can't recognize the woman he loves when she's wearing that little mask -- dude needs glasses.

Meanwhile, the combo that makes sense is Won + Dan, Rin + San. Everybody gets their first or 2nd choice, which is better than 10th choice or a one-way ticket to Yuan.

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Or, Wikipedia says Won already had 3 wives (all from powerful noble families) before he married his Mongol wife....
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.... except for the bit where it offends modern sensibilities, he could just marry San & Dan and one of the 5 his mother invited.

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Who cares about modern sensibilities? I don't. He can at least have San and Dan both and be with San Monday till Friday and visit Dan on the weekends. Then Rin will be his brother in law and won't have to leave and everything will be just fine. Except that's never gonna happen...

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"be with San Monday till Friday and visit Dan on the weekends" bhaha you made my day LOL XD

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Yeah come on I know he will probably not touch Dan and even if he did it would be hard to say what's more bitter for poor Dan. Still he COULD, they are not living in an monogamous society AT ALL.

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bhaha so hilarious, won won't even looking for dan at all XD

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Har! to Sanday.

On the other hand, since he's already said that Dan is like his little sister, give her the Sunday slot. With a tip of the hat to NEVER ON SUNDAY. ;-)

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"the combo that makes sense is Won + Dan, Rin + San. Everybody gets their first or 2nd choice"
Actually for Won, Dan is not even the 10th choice. He sees her as a little sister. So in your ideal pairing, he will get the short end of the stick.

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Dan and Rin moment is my favorite scene from this episode. It's so touching watching the two sibling affection to each other. Dan cries on the thought she won't be able to see Rin and father anymore then Rin encourages her not to go?. I like Dan she doesn't actively beg to her brothers or father or Won to save her from being sent to Yuan. She's afraid but kind of accepts her fate coz nothing she could do about it.
Rin always breaks my heart each episode. His answer to San's question about him speaking politely to her from the start. Gahhh Rin-ahhhh when will the day come you tell the truth about your feeling for San. At least somebody has to know. Does Dan know? Won seems to suspect something but he pretends not to see it. And San's ambiguity for who makes her heart ache more. Indeed this love triangle is not easy.

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I think the hierarchy is really apparent in this drama and they all started with the title, only San is not behaving in that because she just knows them as her friends.

There is two side of this,
Rin sacrificed himself for Won.
Won did a big favour for Rin as his best friend, even take the humiliation.

The difference is that Rin can't sacrifice his own family. Whenever he lies and hold it to Won, it's related to his family [especially his 2nd brother's plan]. In his view, he knew they will never be equal and he thought that the wrongdoing if his brother/family is also on his shoulder to pay.
The betrayal of his brother is paid by his loyalty.

Then we have Won who knows this clearly but he never told Rin who now going places just to stop his brother and save his sister.

If he told that it's San that his brother wants to marry, Won will take the matter to his heart and it will damage Rin's family.
I think we underestimate how Rin cares about his family including Jeon, treason lasts for 3 generation [at least that's what I remember] and even if they are friends, the law is above that and Rin can't bet that. No one is protecting Rin's family, not even Won [imo] if Won knew it was Rin's brother that hurts San and if he knew Rin had a feeling to San.

Won on the other hand is always the one with not much to lose,
he is the only crown prince with the yuan's family. He has power and he has money, no matter people want to dethrone him, his backup is strong enough with his mother for now.

So in Rin's case, he has too much at stake, his own life, his family, his sister, Won, San and he can't pick the priority.
While in Won's case, it's about San, Rin and himself but he never really thought that they have a family too, they have their own responsibility too.

It's not that I am defending Rin or making Won looked bad but this different perspective from them is what makes them an ill-fated friend. Won likes to be the centre of attention and will give it all to people that care about him while Rin is someone that lived with a responsibility to avoid being a burden.

Rin will do not implicate Won in more problem cause the more Won is included because of Rin, the more the royal family will be hard on Rin's family while in Won's care, his family will not harm him [yeah the humiliation is really bad but when Won knew the whole story of Rin's family and San, he also will lose them and Rin and San family can't be saved from the royal family]

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Yes, I was thinking the same. This is really a lose, lose situation for all three. And you have seen beyond the superficial boy loves girl to the greater implications of the plot. The characters are really well drawn.

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now that I think about it, confess to San can be seen as betrayal from Rin to Won.

I probably read it too much but isn't this kind of bro code?
that if I told you I like her then you need to give me chance before you pursuing her because we're a friend.
The "I asked you to bring my woman" is something that really serious imo.
Then you add the royal background and it's a mess.

It can be solved if Won confess and San rejected or accepted him so the rule can be neutralised or San confessed to the one she likes the most [but she still get confused].

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I don't think it's up to her. She might think it is but Won has all the power and he's beginning to be jealous and suspicious anyway. He seems to consider San and Rin as his property to do with as he pleases. He's already unhappy that they seem to disappear from him. He really is acting like the future king. There are so many different ways this drama could unfold.

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I agree that Won seems to love in a possesive way. He feels like he can't live without them, so he will do whatever it takes to keep them close. Maybe I'm just influenced by the spoilers of the novel I had the misfortune to read.

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Sitting here analyzing and realized this is a true triangle - with equal sides. Of friendship and love. The 3 are friends, but each loves the other two in different ways. What makes the triangle unravel and become unequal is the fact that Won is the Crown Prince and has the power over both Rin and San. This drama isn't necessarily about "who gets the girl". For all we know, she could die, or not end up with either. Or Rin could die. Or Rin and San could end up together, etc. But we do know Won ends up the lonely king. He says as much.

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Oops, not quite equal - Won did already choose San over Rin when his father said choose one. Other than that...

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Yeah but I keep wondering about the meaning of it. At first I was quite suprised and not positively when he did that, and I thought Rin would be bitter. However it became clear soon after that Rin and San would have had completely different lives in prison. While San stayed in the commoner's prison which was full of other prisoners and looked quite dirty, Rin had his own very clean looking cell, even the king was only mad at him for a short time and did not really want him punished or anything, and Won equipped him with layers and layers of warm blankets, a stove to keep warm and the prison guard was more like the personal servant of Rin. That's why I think that it was rather sensible of Won to get San out first because he couldn't have improved her life at prison greatly and as a "commoner" and having made the king angry she could have been tortured or even killed at any time.

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" it was rather sensible of Won to get San out first because having made the king angry she could have been tortured or even killed at any time."
Not only that. A member of the royal family cannot be imprisoned or killed unless it's proven that he is a traitor. And... remember all the ministers petitioning the king for Rin's release, speaking of his status, his character etc.? How could anyone convince them to do the same for a nameless commoner girl.

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Yes! I love this triangle so much. The production team said it's not merely about romance. It's about many kinds of love and sacrifices that come along with it. That has become more prevalent and I enjoy it so much.

While CP hold more power above Rin and San, but politically they have their own upper hand too. Rin is the rebels' (and citizens'?) favorite to take the throne, and San's immense wealth is the deciding factor of the game.

It's interesting how even the "evil" mother queen wants the heroine for Won, that's rare in kdrama haha.

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You're right - I had thought Won holds all the power but you're correct in that the other two families have a lot of power too.

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Yes, man, so much this! This drama doesn't have to be about who gets the girl, the love and friendship the three of them share is just so much more than that!

I'm hoping that Won won't end up like in the novel though (as far as I have been spoiled), because the actors of Rin and San said that at the end of the drama your heart will feel at peace. And I'm counting on that! Please T T

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Hong Jong Hyun said that eun san's father really rich... 1/4 of goryeo land belongs to him... he is the richest man in goryeo after the king..
marry won to san will be more benefit for the queen...but If won end up with san, this drama won't be interesting because it'll be another typical saeguk drama, I still hope for rin san, because I really looking forward tragic ending..Sad ending sometime more beautiful than happy ending as long as they have good script ^.^

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*marry won off to san
sorry for my bad english

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Wah ... So great and interesting this drama !!! Yeah faster monday please coming ....

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#WonSan or #RinSan - Well i'm 100% #TeamConfuse ..

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Am I the only one who stars to ship dan and won's bodyguard? Won only considered Dan as a little sister T.T
If won played by lee min ho,Kim soo hyun or yoo seong ho, I really sure their ratings will hit 20% .

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Im Siwan perfect as won, but his popularity isn't enough T.T

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*I'm really sure

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Ugh, I love the character studies in this drama. I would just be repeating myself again, but how this drama portrays people is just so damn realistic and moving. These are messed up people, and just because they're in a sageuk setting wearing fancy clothes does not make them any less messed up. These characters are all heartbreakingly real (yes, even the wimpy King who acts like he has all the power in the world but is actually kinda powerless so he asserts himself through small, petty gestures).

My fave scenes are Rin and the Queen's conversation and when Won snaps at his father asking him why he doesn't see the farce of a tea ceremony for what it is. Rin and Queen Wonsung are the two most loyal people to Won, but they are on opposite ends of the politico-social spectrum which means they can't be allies. But they recognize that each one is loyal to Won which means they have at least respect for each other despite their antagonistic relationship. Again, this isn't explained but shown through how the characters interact and through their convos. LOVE A DRAMA THAT CAN DO THAT.

Won continues to be smart but you can also see that he continues to be young when he tries, but in the end fails, to go along with the tea ceremony. He needs to be slicker than that to be king, and you see that he has the makings of it, but it's still raw at this point, because they can still get to him. How much longer till he grows, however?

As for the romance, I saw that many were confused as to who San really likes after this ep, but it remained clear to me: She wants Rin's attention (that tea scene at Geumwajon (?) gave total pay-off today! when Rin would look at San but avert his eyes when she turned to him), but feels pity for Won because she sees through Won's mask of cheerfulness, perhaps recognizing in him a kindred soul (she herself masks a deep pain through her outwardly brash personality). She recognizes Won's pain and therefore wants to help him alleviate that pain. Whether she would grow tired of Rin's apparent wishy-washiness (though we as viewers know that is not the case) and falls for Won's actions (she is already moved by them), remains to be seen. I cannot wait for Monday.

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And I can't upvote you multiple times, which is a pity.

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Friends such a twisted knot my heart just aches aish plz untie it in such a manner that it leads happiness to all.
Dan San Rin won I wish a happy ever after for u.

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It has been quite a long time since I last cried watching a drama and it finally happened in this episode. It was unexpected. I was surprised by my own reaction, but the tears did not stop.

I was already emotional at the beginning of the drama and throughout the hour I was in an emotional rollercoaster because of what the four leads are going through. I have many favorite emotional scenes from this episode, but my tear floodgates opened when Won "proposed" to Dan. It was poignant yet sweet because Won showed that he cares for Dan even if only as a sister.

I realized that the Queen may seem strong and evil, but she is in fact filled with loneliness and pain and probably more fragile than what she makes it appear to others especially to the King.

What's going to happen next? Who will Won choose. I was glad that when all ladies were introduced, Won looked at Dan with something like a reassuring smile because they had a plan. But then San showed up and omgg. What now?

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won's eyes a little bit sad when he saw dan, maybe he felt guilty towards her, I really want to ship won with dan, but when won said that Dan won't be his first (after he had told san than she was his first), I felt hurt with Dan, I can't imagine their happy marriage life at all, won won't love her, her life will lonely, she won't be happy for sure...T.T

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That ending was just a great (and killer) twist.

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hmm.. what day today? Oh it's still Saturday 11.52 pm... haha at least 46 hours again I can see what happens with San-won-Rin hahahaha
thank you writer-nim for such amazing hanging end plus new dramatic OST for Won TT

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If Won changes his mind and not choose Dan, will she still be sent to Yuan as a tribute? But Rin and the queen already had a deal, right? Or will they both go? It was also mentioned, ones the list is sent to Yuan, there is no taking it back. Was it sent already? It says the tributes to Yuan are going in five days, so could it be that the list was there? Can the queen cancel whenever and whoever is in that list? She's the queen after all.

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While the princess wonsang 'is' lonely and all that, but I absolutely hated today how everyone in the palace would kind of do things for their own benefits.
1. princess wonsang: She cries and feels so much for her son, quite valid. I credit her for not neglecting the prince, but but but, evil people love their kin too. I was hoping we would take sides of people who are righteous, and kind, the princess loving her son but then trying to forcefully use dan to insult Rin or saying on his face that he should leave, since he's a thread to the CP, was absolutely horrendous imo. Good deeds will ultimately win I believe, so while she thinks that by getting rid of the strong and righteous Rin would be good for Won, it is gonna backfire on her at some point in the future honestly. In their thirst for power and blind affection for their children and lovers, the king and queen both are losing the trustworthy people they could have. Afterall money is not the most important asset in life, it's love, trust and the bond of friends and family.
2. That brings me to my next topic: Won. While I 'LOVE' him and love how Im Siwan is portraying the CP, I live for his micro-expressions, and the discoveries in the depth of his character, so that's why both of his negative and positive attitudes is a joy to watch. For example, when he said to Rin, 'bring my woman', it was all kind of problematic for me. Think about how we would react, if this was the modern time and someone said that to his friend or subordinate, while power gives Won the privilege to act as he wants, but still if he 'has' considered Rin as his friend and (One and only at that), then he was not supposed to treat him like that. Since he knows very well that Rin likes San too. Even if he's a crown prince, and would be a king in future, and because we have seen that he is quite honest and trustworthy in other aspects, but just because of how dominating and rude he is at times towards Rin, I can't certify him as a man of good character. So though he calls Rin friend, I think he doesn't see him in that regard when the love of his life is in question. Like that time in the jail when he tells to Rin directly, I would be saving San, and not you. And though Rin says jokingly, I thought I was of more value to you than that, I felt in inside he was a bit hurt may be? So that made me think, did Won actually love Rin that much as a friend, or trust him fully? If he had more high regard for his friend, he wouldn't just say, bring me my woman, rather I would expect, 'so I kind of like San, but I have this inkling that you like her too, so why don't we leave it to her to see which one of us actually makes her react/confused?' But the dominating and regal tone he used with Rin, every time San was involved, was quite uneasy for me to watch. A man of good attributes won't act that way, I felt. While all that time, Rin just listened to him and said nothing, and even when San asked him, 'why did he...

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*since he's a threat to the CP.

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act so respectfully towards her,' he was forced to say 'because my master loved you.' So that kind of explains that, though Won tells him to address him by his name and not as a master, when it has something to do with Won's preferences like the person he loves, Won would always act differently, or as he wishes, towards Rin. That division between them was always apparently there, so their friendship turning bitter, is bound to happen.

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Won was definitely treating San as his property when he told Rin to bring my woman.

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Wanted to add, loved your review Teriyaki! I think I kind of am curious like you, about whom San really likes or who makes her heart move. I would be kind of disappointed if the drama writer takes a different course than the original writer, since this could affect the quality of the script or the message/impression the original writer intended to give. So here's to hoping that we get a satisfying ending.

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Your'e delusional if you think any royal would treat a subject (friend or not) as their equal that's an oxymoron.

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Well I hope you're not trying to say there is some kind of rule that Kings 'can't' or shouldn't treat someone as their equal. There were good ones and bad ones, and historically speaking there have been some good ones that I've read about , so I dare to say that I'm not being delusional ?.
Also by declaring that royals don't regard anyone as their equal, I hope we don't justify their wrong doings. It's like saying, it is a given that the killer can't be caught, since the whole police department is corrupted. Lol.

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ah from your experience ?
or maybe you have been a royal in the past?

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I want to add how I found it hilarious and cute (amidst the rather tense atmosphere) when Won entered and awkwardly greeted the ladies. Siwan is such a cute awkward. Reminds me of awkward Jang Geurae.

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yeah, siwas was so cute and adorable in misaeng bhahaha XD

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*siwan

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Thanks for your recap, TeriYaki!

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