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The King Loves: Episodes 25-26

After seven years of silence, Rin must once again decide if he will remain complicit in his brother’s evil deeds. Won becomes virtually inscrutable on the topic, and it seems that no matter how much Rin tries to do the right thing, it never goes his way. Thus, he finds himself trapped between the truth and a lie, as the rock in his heart grows heavier and heavier.

 
EPISODE 25 RECAP

We open at a temple in the mountains, where Won seeks Teacher Lee’s counsel on what he should do with the power of an acting king. San walks over with a tray of hwajeon (fried rice cakes decorated with edible flowers), but is stopped by Rin.

She grumbles that the rice cakes will grow cold if they aren’t eaten quickly, so Rin takes a bite to appease her. But he immediately looks confused once he chews once or twice, then asks if she’s tasted them.

San guesses that he must mean the rice cakes are delicious, since she’s always received many compliments on her cooking, but Rin just smiles.

Teacher Lee hands Won a book he’s been writing, urging Won to read it. Won contests that he doesn’t have time to read until he’s able to navigate out of his political quagmire, but Teacher Lee just quotes a line from his book where Won should begin.

The line speaks of “Dangun,” the founder of the first Korean kingdom, Gojoseon, and how Goryeo is a “single-race nation.” The phrase stings Won, and so Teacher Lee explains that he believes that everyone carries a “rock” in their hearts.

Won’s rock is his mixed blood, Teacher Lee says. He then looks up at San chatting happily with Rin nearby, and explains that San has a particularly large rock inside her heart.

Her smile conceals her pain, and Teacher Lee describes how in their first meeting, he had seen that the overwhelming weight of her rock had buried young San’s emotions, adding that when she told him that she was responsible for her mother’s death, she did not shed a single tear.

Moreover, she refused to eat and, after offering San some rice cakes, Teacher Lee realized that San felt guilty for enjoying delicious food, and had lost her sense of taste.

Teacher Lee adds wisely, “It is hard to breathe when a rock is lying in your heart, but that was the only way she could breathe.”

Teacher Lee points out that Won too had difficulty “breathing,” which was he why he had sought out Teacher Lee before and told the story of the wolfdog. Teacher Lee then recounts how he managed to get San to eat again, by assigning her to cook for the entire school.

It required some compassionate acting by the other students, but in seeing others eat her food heartily, San was able to come out of her depression. Teacher Lee explains, “There are two types of people: those who wish to be happy and those who are happy when others are.”

Teacher Lee hopes that Won can be like San and become a king that is happy only when his people are happy. He encourages Won to read the book and learn from the mistakes and virtues of his royal predecessors.

Teacher Lee corrects himself and says that there is one thing San is able to taste…

Won grows pensive, then confesses to Teacher Lee that San wasn’t the one responsible for her mother’s death. Won thinks back to seven years ago when he had ignored Rin’s suggestion to alert the authorities about the planned bandit attack.

We cut to San eagerly taking a whiff of a special wine with Won and Rin at a table. She impatiently adheres to the new hierarchy (letting Won drink first) before downing her cup. Won tells his friends that Teacher Lee has chosen not to return with them to the palace, and so, San must come with them in his place.

San is preoccupied with the wine, but manages to refuse Won between gulps. She tells Won that she plans to travel to another land with her father and find a doctor to help with his illness.

Won tries to override San’s plans by dispatching some men to retrieve a renowned doctor from the area she plans to travel to, but San begs him to let her go because she wishes to spend time with her father, since they lived so many years apart.

Won still forbids it since he fears he may never see her again, so San breezily threatens to leave secretly. Without other options, Won uses his final card, and tells San what he has hidden from her for seven years. He describes another warrior group working alongside with the bandits, who massacred everyone there.

San isn’t surprised, and instead asks if Won was also the crown prince at the time (which Won confirms), and if so, she wonders why he stood by and did nothing. She adds that had he acted then, those behind the atrocity would have been caught and already brought to justice.

Won stills, then explains that back then, he was selfish and did not want to get involved, but now he does and wants to help her seek vengeance.

Minister Eun appears and tells Won that he and San have given up on revenge, since he imagines that Madam Eun would not have wanted it. Therefore, he hopes that Won can let them both go freely. But Won can’t bring himself to grant the request, and begs San not to go.

We return to the palace and see Won and Rin greet Princess Wonsung on her way to the king’s chambers, but Won is taken aback when she ignores him. Rin hands Furatai a large pile of scrolls, which he takes inside.

Princess Wonsung urges the king to give Won a title in order to learn how to govern in an official capacity. She’s prepared several documents (the scrolls from Rin) with some titles for the king to approve.

The king is astonished but is forced to authorize the title transfers given the deadlock between his men and Won’s armies. However, since he cannot exercise any power against his political foes (and family), the king pulls the pettiest move ever and names Boo-yong his queen. Dang, you cold.

The king provokingly baits Princess Wonsung for a reaction, which she does not give beyond the hurt look on her face.

Outside, Won and Rin wait for Princess Wonsung to emerge, and Won tells Rin about his plan to start giving provisions to his armies. But Rin is distracted, so Won offers a penny for his thoughts, which leads Rin to ask if he truly means to find the mastermind behind Madam Eun’s murder.

Won confesses that he made that pledge to get San to stay, but he’ll proceed with the investigation to make good on his word, since he should have acted once he found out So-hwa and San were one in the same. (But not for justice, Won?)

Their conversation is cut short when Princess Wonsung exits, but again, she ignores Won.

Rin goes home to try and convince his father of Jeon’s treasonous acts again, but his father still doesn’t want to believe it. His father also dismisses the testimony of the witnesses Rin had brought as untrustworthy due to their lowly statuses.

Rin tells his father that he intends to reveal everything to Won because it is the right thing to do, adding that he has been complicit with Jeon’s crimes with his silence for far too long.

Suddenly Dan speaks up (after eavesdropping from the doorway) and asks what will happen to her if Jeon’s crimes are revealed—will she still be able to marry Won or punished for Jeon’s treason? She says with a resolute and somewhat worrying look on her face that for her, it’s Won or no one else.

At the temple, San packs for her journey with Bi-yeon, who gushes about the crown prince gallantly investigating Madam Eun’s murder (not-so-)mystery.

San packs a knife in her bag, and Bi-yeon gasps, snatching it from her. She’s urges San to act like a lady now and perhaps even pursue that man she keeps talking about.

San leaves Bi-yeon to discuss their journey with her father. The plan is to travel by boat, and San points out that it will take a while to prepare everything, so she requests ten days before their departure to taste all the great wines in the capital.

Minister Eun’s heart starts acting up, and after it calms, he asks San seriously why she decided to give up on her revenge. He knows that she’s been relentlessly searching for Moo-suk, but now that she’s discovered who is behind everything (Song In), he wonders if she stopped because Rin’s older brother is involved and doesn’t want to hurt their family.

Caught, San admits that both Rin and Dan are good people (she adds that Jeon is horrible, but doesn’t seem to think he would be behind her mother’s murder), and so she will give up her revenge and leave Goryeo, but her eyes are shifty when she answers.

Her father also knows that San has been practicing martial arts in secret, specifically how to ambush someone and kill them on the spot, and he demands to know what she’s up to.

She doesn’t answer, but later we see her practicing with her dagger in the forest. Teacher Lee approaches from behind and tells her that she will need to make a choice. Either she lives the life of a murderer, or “draw your love while staring at the sky.” (Not following this logic, Teach.)

She tells him that the man with the snake tattoo is loyal to Song In, and so Teacher Lee asks if she intends to kill them. He adds that her mother died long ago and asks if it’s impossible for her to give up on her revenge.

San asks Teacher Lee what would happen if her mother and all those who died weren’t at peace yet. She says she sees them in her dreams, wandering around in the afterlife.

He seems to understand her, and gives his consent under the condition that she acts as his proxy and serves as Won’s counsel during the day, and pursue her revenge at night.

The next morning, Rin waits for Won outside of his quarters. He tries to tell Won the truth about Jeon, but Won brushes him off and insists that he cannot be late to his first meeting with his generals.

At the meeting, Won praises the generals for their performance in overtaking the king’s men, but the air is strained after Won learns that the warehouses he planned to use to feed his men have been cleared in the night.

We cut to the king, as Song In reports the relocation of the supplies. He reasons that the armies will turn on Won after they realize he cannot feed them, since that was the reason they joined Won’s cause.

The king nervously looks at the soldiers stationed at his door and asks Song In if they can be trusted. Song In assures the king that they can, but the king cannot be persuaded and fidgets in fear. Boo-yong tries to soothe him, and suggests that they go hunting to relax.

He’s elated by the idea, then remembers to follow-up on making her his royal concubine, but to do that he needs a special hairpin, which can only be given by Princess Wonsung. The king orders Minister Song to retrieve it, then proudly calls Boo-yong “Queen Mu,” but she looks uncomfortable and her eyes drift to Song In.

Elsewhere, Won orders his men to search for the missing supplies, but Rin points out that they won’t be able to search the Royal Treasury without the king permission, so Won decides to go to his mother for help.

Rin tries to broach the topic of Jeon’s treason again, but Won keeps cutting him off, so Rin shouts at Won to stop avoiding him. Won finally stops, and Rin discloses that he thinks Jeon was involved in Madam Eun’s incident, and had suspected him seven years ago but hid it in order to protect his family.

…Which makes him an accomplice in Jeon’s crimes.

 
EPISODE 26 RECAP

In Princess Wonsung’s residence, Won and his mother sip tea as Eunuch Choi reports the king’s departure on his hunt. Princess Wonsung asks for the key to the royal treasury, but is informed that the king took the key with him (but it’s actually in Minister Song’s possession).

Won assures his mother that he will find another way to secure provisions for his men, so Princess Wonsung hands Won a folded up paper she found on San when she had imprisoned her after the tea party.

It’s an itemized list of Minister Eun’s finances, and she supposes San hoped to bargain with the wealth as a last resort.

Won intends to borrow some supplies, when suddenly Princess Wonsung tells him that his bride will need final approval from her and above all, must be someone whom can provide Won with the most support as king.

Won looks confused as his mother says that she will not ruin his reputation, but they will need to find a tiny flaw. Oh no!

Outside, Won looks as if he wants to tell Rin something, but he changes his mind at the last minute and walks ahead. At the same time, San arrives at the palace and so the boys hurry to greet her. She smiles when she sees them, and Won’s eyes widen in wonder.

Inside his residence, San hands Won a scroll containing names of Teacher Lee’s students who, despite their intelligence, were unable to advance in their careers because they lacked connections. She also relays Teacher Lee’s advice for Won to station men outside his warehouses, but Won replies that it’s too late for that.

San is prepared for that outcome, and hands Won an envelope which will give him a large quantity of rice and silver. Won refuses, until Rin urges Won to accept the generous donation, because they need to.

In exchange, San wishes that Won will drop the investigation into her mother’s murder.

Won is surprised, but not more than Rin, who can’t seem to believe his ears. He presses San for a reason, and so San explains that it is her father’s wish (but doesn’t look at him). Won agrees to it (watching Rin curiously), even as Rin continues to look on incredulous.

At night, San follows Jeon as he leaves his house. He heads to Song In’s teahouse, where he waits for Moo-suk before going inside. San starts after them, but is pulled out of Moo-suk’s sight just in time by Rin.

She’s shocked to see that he’s followed her, but he tells her that he has someone he wants her to meet. They leave, and we see that they have not escaped Moo-suk’s notice.

He takes her to Geumgajeong to meet with the cart pullers Gae-won Yeom Bok, then orders them to tell San what they witnessed during Madam Eun’s murder.

Yeom Bok refuses to talk about it since he claims to be afflicted with bad dreams (where he sees those who were murdered) whenever he does. Thus, San questions Gae-won, and he describes how they were part of the bandit group.

He says the man in black killed many people, and hurt one of the two girls. Then Jeon arrived and was alarmed to see that the girl was injured and ran over. Gae-won realizes that San was one of the girls, but no one corrects him on the specifics.

Rin points out that Gae-won’s retelling left something crucial out, namely that Jeon and Moo-suk exchanged glances of recognition. Gae-won plays dumb, even as Rin angrily insists that he’s lying.

Gae-won reasons that he probably lied under duress, since Rin was acting so crazy that day and blurted it out without thinking.

We switch over to Won and Jang Eui, as the bodyguard tells Won that the cart pullers have successfully fooled Rin as he instructed.

They’ve also handled the the salt merchant, since Won guesses that Rin will go to him next because he knows that Rin will do his due diligence. Jang Eui asks why Won is trying to obscure the truth from Rin, but Won doesn’t have an answer for him because he hasn’t quite worked out the reason yet.

For what it’s worth, Won is right about Rin, because he takes San to the salt merchant after failing to get the truth from Gae-won. Rin explains to San that the salt merchant is now working as their double agent.

Now that Rin has decided to reveal the truth, he gets caught up in all the adrenaline, and then is confused when San asks what he’s doing.

She explains that she’s investigating her mother’s death, and refused Won’s help because she doesn’t want Rin to be implicated through his connection to Jeon.

Rin is stunned that San is concerned for him, and San answers that their enemies are cunning enough to fool the king. Rin worries that San intends to take her foes on alone, but she promises that she has a plan.

He asks to know her plan, but she’s cagey about the details and intent on working alone. She begins to leave, but he grabs her arm to stop her. She says that she needs to “end it” because only then can she free herself from the guilt she feels, and enjoy good food at last.

After following Rin and San around all night, Moo-suk reports back to Song In and you can practically see the gears turning in Song In’s head as he seems to finally understand what is occurring between our main trio.

He tells Moo-suk that he’s discovered Won’s weakness, then zeroes in on Rin, and contemplates driving a wedge between the boys, remarking how fun it will be.

He says that he’s never considered driving them apart since they’re so loyal to one another, but now, he may have found a way through San.

Moo-suk asks what Song In intends to do about Jeon, who spends his days getting drunk and pestering Song In for a new plan for his enthronement. Song In wonders aloud if he should abandon the older brother for the younger one, deciding that he must make a situation where Rin has no choice but to seek him out for help.

Speaking of the devil, Jeon drinks himself into oblivion, and doesn’t even notice as a gisaeng steals the golden butterfly norigae hanging from his belt.

Under Princess Wonsung’s orders to find a “small flaw” in Wang Young’s family in order to disqualify Dan as Won’s wife, Eunuch Choi reports back with some damning evidence. But we don’t hear what he’s discovered just yet.

In his chambers, Won and San are hard at work organizing their finances, and San is impressed with Won’s great memory. But he doesn’t indulge in the flattery, and warns her of the ink dripping from her quill and onto their important documents.

She jumps up suddenly, making a mess. She swears that she’s usually more composed, and Won allows her to maintain her fiction with a smile. Since night has fallen, she heads toward the door, but doesn’t tell Won where she’s going when he asks.

Rin enters and offers to escort her, but she refuses him as well, and they bicker back and forth, until Won interrupts, calling Rin over. Instead, Rin decides to squeal on San about what she did last night, but Won backs her up and allows her to leave unescorted.

Rin isn’t done nagging though, and continues complaining to Won once San is gone as he tells him about her visit to Song In’s and her near-miss with Moo-suk. He’s frantic over the possibility of San confronting him, especially given her temper.

Won remains calm as he observes Rin’s outburst, then tells Rin firmly that he sent a bodyguard to trail her as he declares, “I will protect her.” Rin catches himself, replying that he overstepped his boundaries.

Then, Court Lady Jo enters to retrieve Rin—alone.

San sees Court Lady Jo leading Rin out, and asks a member of her entourage where they are headed. The answer she receives is alarming: the interrogation hall.

Rin arrives and is immediately surrounded by guards as Princess Wonsung enters the area. A man is brought out, and we see in a flashback that he was the head of the bandits from the first episode.

He tells the group how someone hired them to rob Minister Eun, but they were tricked, and all his men were killed instead. On top of that, the incident was blamed on him.

Princess Wonsung asks if the man saw the person who ordered the job, and the bandit confirms it, so Princess Wonsung holds up Jeon’s golden butterfly norigae and asks if it belongs to that person. The bandit says that Jeon promised to pay them for the job afterward, and gave him the norigae as a deposit.

Princess Wonsung hands the norigae to Rin and asks if Rin recognizes it as his family crest. Rin verifies it, his voice shaking, knowing fully what the admission means. He looks across the hall and sees San watching him, horrified.

He tries to go to her, but is restrained by guards, and can do nothing but watch her run away.

Jin Gwan tells Won that Rin was taken to the interrogation hall, and that Princess Wonsung is sending soldiers to Wang Young’s house because of the incident seven years ago. Won’s mind goes straight to San, and he’s troubled to hear that she followed after Rin.

San goes right to Wang Young’s and locks her eyes on Jeon lounging around his house. She unsheathes her dagger, steels herself, and approaches Jeon as her eyes fill with tears. She raises her dagger right before she charges, but a hand suddenly reaches out and pulls her back.

Won drags her away and restrains her as she struggles against him. He tries to calm her, but her eyes are unwavering. Her voice becomes pleading as she fights Won until he finally pulls her into his arms and begs her not to go through with her vengeance, since it will hurt her as well.

She relents, and tears follow as the truth reverberates through her.

 
COMMENTS

I consistently find myself having an issue with understanding who knows what whenever I watch this show. It felt particularly glaring in these episodes since the entire climax was based on San not knowing that Jeon was involved in her mother’s murder. I know the issue on the table right now for San is Rin’s betrayal, and the fact that he hid everything from her, but for some reason I thought she knew or made the connection already, because realistically, it isn’t much of a stretch since Jeon is the worst. I’m hoping we get some more color on San’s strong reaction to Rin, because right now it feels to me like something was off.

Her reaction does seem like an indication of her strong feelings for Rin, because she certainly wasn’t that mad when Won admitted his role in her mother’s murder. But also, his brother didn’t conspire to kill her mother, so there’s that.

I had a similar problem during the whole (not so) mysterious identity arc, since I couldn’t always sort out who knew what immediately. I had to really think about it, or was told after the fact during a really emotional moment, which makes me feel out of step with the characters and what they’re feeling. I want to be sad and happy with them instead of retroactively! I’ve frequently thought to myself: “Ah, I see what you did there,” when I should be more emotionally invested in a scene. I think it’s important to feel the conflict building as the stakes rise and our characters grow closer to the truth, but I didn’t feel that so much in these episodes, and that’s disappointing.

Moving on to Won, you can really see that Won got his mother’s single-mindedness. He’s pretty preoccupied with San, and it’s sad to see him only care about justice when it’s relevant to him, but it’s also very telling. It’s just like his mother, who is only incidentally on the main trio’s side if it serves her ultimate aim of making Won into the perfect king. They really are becoming more and more alike, and I’m not sure what it means. I think it’s tragic that Princess Wonsung desperately doesn’t want Won to end up in a marriage like hers, so she’s pushing for a marriage where Won becomes her in the relationship (Won and San), rather than his father (Won and Dan), and there doesn’t seem to be a winning solution here.

I think it’s really interesting that Won thinks his inaction before was because of selfishness, and his actions now are less so. He may be a bit more considerate, but he relentlessly pursues his desires and it really weirds me out to see how Won manipulates San, or maybe it’s just that Won is so honest and open with Rin that he’s willing to admit even his least noble thoughts. I’m not really sure how to feel when Won confesses that he didn’t really care to find the people behind the murder until it mattered to San/So-hwa.

Overall, Won is being all weird again about the topic of Jeon’s treason, which makes me think that he probably has something in the works, but can’t risk letting Rin in on the plan because maybe the matter is too personal. That scene at the end of episode twenty-five had no real follow-up, so I hope we haven’t seen everything yet. I truly think Won is doing everything he can to protect Rin as well, so I really hope he comes through for us, because things aren’t looking good for Rin right now.

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Why Princess Wonsung why? Just when I'd started to like her because of her care towards her son, this episode breaks my favor on her. Anyone who is against my RinSan ship is out! Haha. I guess it's true what Teacher Lee said to her, she likes to complicate things.

Anyway, can the King die already? He clearly has one layer character: stupid King. Whatever comes from his mouth is either rubbish or disaster. Wth I feel like punching his face when he keeps on calling that Boo Yong b*tch, Queen Mu.

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Boo Yong is def poisoning him slowly and I think (though don't know how) Princess Wonsung too. She (PW) identifies Rin's familly as a threat to Won (because of Royal familly connection) and knowing Won loves San, she is even content to sacrifice the lovely dan in ruthless efficiency. Won has not suspected this of her, just as he cannot believe the King cares so little for his people. Given he cares little for Won, that's either nieve or idealistic.

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I totally understand Princess Wonsung's intention. But I just can't help it when it involves separating RinSan. Haha I was being irrational.

About the King, I agree with you as we could see the King has become even more and more delusional and scared of his own shadow.

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"Anyone who is against my RinSan ship is out!" Hah to me Princess Wonsung doesn't just want to separate Rin from San. From the start she clearly sees Rin as potential contender to the throne therefore a threat to Won's position. As you I was started to like her better especially when she had that conversation with San and eventually asked Rin to escort San. But what she's doing to Rin now totally cruel. I'm against anyone who harm Rin in any way!!?

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Yes, I've been Rin supporter since the first episode, so yeah like you, I'm against anyone who harm Rin in any way. I just hope Won won't fall into that category, because as much as I love Rin, I don't want to hate Won for doing any harm to Rin.

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Won already made me mad at him because he constantly prioritizes San over Rin his first and best friend ever so loyal to him.

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Rin is not so loyal, he edits the truth: that is not loyal nor trustworthy, regardless of reason.

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Princess W. has obviously long thought Rin has the potential to be a better ruler than her own child, so instead of wasting her time trying to separate the two why didn't she use that time to try to instill in Won those qualities. It's probably that reason more then his royal position that his kept him from being the friend to Rin that he could have, should have been. Your mom may love you but if she finds you lacking you're going to know it even if she isn't a douche like your father

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Are you sure? Seems to me it's more Won to San. But I've been having trouble with the OSTs figuring out who is talking about who. And why are the love song lyrics always when Rin/San are together and not Won?

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but it doesn't guaranteed either that San will end up with Rin because it seems too complicated now.

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I'm with you regarding San's reaction to learning Rin knew all along and she felt deceived by him. And I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused. You were right it might be because she cares for him so much. But we can see things from an outsider's pov, so sometimes it's difficult to see what they're actually seeing w/o all our inside info. But what really concerns me is Won's setting it up to destroy San's faith in Rin. That was so weird, and it was kind of glossed over. He may say he doesn't know why he did it, but at least subconsciously he very well knows. And will the guard who knows ever tell the truth to San? Not for a very long time anyway. The truth may come out eventually. And I don't get why I'm skeptical of Won's supposed guilt over thinking it was his fault those years ago. I was only disappointed that this turn of events is a standard cliche in kdrama.
Either this is going to end with SanRin, SanWon, or nobody gets the girl and they all end up friends again after being apart. But I hope it isn't three friends only because that's never gonna happen in real life. A girl simply can't just be friends with guys.
My biggest fear right now is the possible strike and the last 3 weeks won't be aired. Please say it ain't so!

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Let's pray that this drama won't be affected by the strike. I really wanna watch this drama til the end with peace.

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I think those platforms who have the license for this show already have the completed show since it's pre-produced. Should be no problem to air it.

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It's completely pre-produced, so I think we've dodged a bullet with this one.

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I thought I heard that Siwan has enlisted so it must be completed. At least part of it had to have been done months ago, sometimes you can see their breath when they're outside.

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Yes they already wrapped-up filming in mid June and had their after party from Yoon-ah and HJG ig posts.

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> He may say he doesn't know why he did it, but at least subconsciously he very well knows

I think he started to aware that Rin can be his rival. All this time, Rin is his friend but never a rival in anything. Rin presence is a comfort because he'll never challenge Won and always guarding him. Now Rin comes and confront Won about the problem, actively seeking the answer and confess even when Rin knows that Won still doesn't have the solution [the prove about Song In].

Perhaps he feels threated by Rin active pursue since all this time, Won is the one that always gives the final information and acts as the lead to San. Perhaps he is guarding Rin and perhaps he just really doesn't know.

Still, I can't shake off the feeling that he is meddling too much in this. Also he didn't say anything when he knows the queen is looking about Wang Young's family flaw even after hearing the info from Rin about Jeon.

It's the queen, she got what she wants and it seems like something is holding Won's back [like his awareness and jealousy] or he doesn't know if it matters much.

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San asked Won not to produce the witnes so he sent an order making sure they 'forgot' the ir memory. He didn't intend to implicate Rin. And of course it was Song In who crafted the plan and details. He specificly told Jeon noone must be left as witness to who was responsible. Song Ins' henchman Moo Suk did the killing and would have killed San but (because of the reversed clothing between her and her maid she didn't suffer a scratch. It's Princess Wonsung who's cooked up this to kill Won's rivals (alternatives to Yuan).

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I think up to that point, she had though Jeon was probably involved somehow, but not necessarily the mastermind/direct cause? That's my guess anyway.

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I think so too. There's a (slight?) difference between being involved and being a mastermind like the bandit witness was implicating

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I think Won didn't mean to destroy San's faith in Rin. From what I understand Won wanted to cover this up to protect Rin and he knew Rin, as an upright person, would try to tell San the truth. So Won made sure the witnesses wouldn't tell the truth when confronted by Rin and San.
I hope the possible strike won't affect the show, too. RinSan, WonSan, or whatever, I really don't want to wait any longer for the ending.

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Only six episodes left aaah don't want this show to end.

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Huh. I hadn't thought of it as Won undermining Sans faith in Rin I just thought of it as him trying to cover Rins familys connection to her mothers death

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Okay, I can kind of understand San's reaction because knowing that someone is complicit in a murder and suspecting that some one is capable of murder are two very different things.

Up until the interrogation, San only suspected at Jeon's role in her mother's murder. She knew he was complicit in the murder, but she really didn't know to what degree Jeon was responsible since she surmised,(and rightly so) that SongIn and the Snake tattoo guy were equally or even more responsible. However, listening to the accuser, who painted a damning picture of Jeon and tried to shift ALL the blame on Jeon, temporarily made her lose her sense of judgment. And the realization that Rin had known all along of his brother's involvement but only recently tried to tell her, after they became close and because the Crown Prince was going to investigate, added to her sense of betrayal. Rin could have revealed all of this to her sooner, but chose not to until it was pretty late.

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But Won's interference to influence the witnesses put all the blame on Jeon to the effect that it was Jeon who did the actual killing and everything was his idea,( which is really dumb because Jeon is too stupid to think of such a plan), which is why she felt deceived by Rin. The real deception is from Won.

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I agree. Jeon is too stupid to think of a plan, and I think when San calms down, she'd realize it too.

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I agree. It is why she felt betrayed. While this episode was a bit confusing, it helped set up beautifully what happened in the next episode.

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Yes, everyone is being too generous to Rin because you all have the hots for him but actually his flaw is the worst!

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I was actually thrilled to see Won manipulating the witnesses so that Rin will not get them to confess in front of San even though Rin was practically confessing the whole time. To me it's a sign that Won still cares about Rin enough that he'll lie and scheme to prevent him being involved in something that might ruin him, namely the actions of Jeon being made public. Of course the backhanded way is kind of Won's way to handle things, it's like Rin is always upright and Won is the one who orders the dirty work, while Rin is doing it to give San and her late mother justice, Won is doing it to protect Rin.

It's a gaping plothole though that San should not have realized that Jeon was the culprit and that Rin was trying to tell her desperately and prove it too her.

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I agree! I liked that Won went out of his way to protect Rin, even though he knew what San wanted was the real culprit.

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The subtle power of the love story between San and Rin is truly awesome!

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after watching the 27-28 Ep, I just aware that the broadcast has some changes, did anyone know what changes?
I saw people type but I forget where, it's about the Inn-maid that compliment Won acting to hold the information because Won wants to preserve Rin and San relationship, she even says that Rin and San looked good together. Won looked confused by her assessment while the guard tries to make the nanny left in case she offends Won. Perhaps it gives better clues.

As far as I understand, San thinking that Song In is the ultimate bad guy, the one who makes the plan, the conspirator, that's why she is going after Song In 1st. She thought that Jeon is just related to the case cause he is there rather than the one who planned to murder her mum or know that they are about to murder her mum. That's why she is shocked when the survivor witness told them that Jeon paid them since that means Jeon is the head of the plan or know the plan beforehand.

I think the showdown when Rin is confronted in front of San is well played. The sequence after it with Rin trying to run also conveyed a very emotional feeling.
I like the San resolution about this case that she wants to do it alone, from her to the perpetrator without involving Rin because she knew the law. It considerate despite how impulsive she regarding her mother's case, even when she almost reach Jeon, she is hesitating.

I feel bad for Rin when what he did doesn't reach San this ep. He tried, he says it all to Won, to her father and to San but it seems like none is going for him. At least we know that his father stopped him 8 years ago too.

Throughout this drama, Won is really holding the character together since Rin and San always want to leave. Even if imo he did it out of his selfish desire, the outcome of that can benefit them.

The editing looked choppy but the scenes shot really well. The way it shot still looked good but the editing missed a beat.

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Oh, I wondered what happened to that scene. It was on a site I watched yesterday but can't even connect to the site today. This morning I watched Viki and the scene wasn't there. It was a great scene too. What happened?

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I remember the post about the scene after Jang Ui asked won why he did it [the manipulated witness] ,
won said he doesn't know and the Inn Maid said happily that deep down won want to match made Rin and San, she keeps going about how Rin and San looked good together but jang ui guide her to the door.

That's all I remember, will try to find the clips somewhere but I am not aware of any other clips.

I was looking for BTS clip, found someone Instagram account and stumble to the video, it seems like the post had been removed but it was like from TV,

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This is the one I saw. Wish I could find it again. Do you remember which episode it's in?

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it's on this ep, 25-26
I find it but it's muted, it;s good that I don't open instagram much [hahaha]
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYXqSKhBEXC/?taken-by=rosen_kruez

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now that I watch that clip, it still an ambiguous clue but it make Won aware on what he hasn't see

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Not only that, but the maid also said that the couple (Rin and San) look so good together and the girl (San) must be happy coz the guy (Rin) looks like he really love her.
THAT is what make Won's expression get hard. They cut this scene out... I wonder why..

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Unless it's ep 14 . I watched back to back so I don't remember

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I watched the episode yesterday (8/31) on Viki and I saw it. I remember it because I loved how she gushed about what a great couple San and Rin made

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It's really weird why there are differences in the Korean and International versions. In the i-version, it has become blatantly obvious that San likes Rin quite a lot. The k-version wants to put more doubt in this regard, probably to appease the fans, who are currently split as to the ships.

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More and more this drama is painting Dan as a selfish jade, a spoilt princess with only one goal in life, which is to marry the Crown Prince and become the Crown Princess. She didn't even stop to think that the Queen, who will be her mother in law dislikes her and is threatened by her family. All she can see is her own ambition. Her brother is accused of murder and if tried the entire family would be decimated. She expressed neither shock for her brother's perfidy or concern for her family. Only "I want Won I must have him". She's beginning to look more like Won and the Queen in her single minded pursuit of her goal.

About Won's inaction, I really can't blame him. He has just learned a lesson in the last episode not to act too quickly or rashly because he could fall into a trap or create more trouble. He's becoming a mature and savvy politician and not just an errant prince. He knows if he takes a wrong step and causes the Queen to lose face; it might lead to the death of Rin and his family and so he has to tread carefully. Besides, his mother is his number one support and backing in the palace. Openly defying her would not be in his best interest. And also, he's afraid that San would find out the part he played in her mother's murder all those years ago by not calling the authorities and getting help, and he would lose all chances of her falling in love with him.

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It's too easy to get this mixed up with the next two episodes!! Totally understand. Won surprises me because just when I think he's going to go dark he supports Rin. But I'm wondering if his motives for doing that are delusional (he doesn't really think Rin will follow up on his love for San, plus he thinks Rin will always be loyal no matter what), or trying to manipulate Rin (he strongly hinted in one episode that Rin had better watch himself around San).

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I think that's it exactly - he doesn't think Rin will do anything about his feelings towards San, so to him they don't really matter. Same with San, in his mind of course she will eventually love him.

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We can all be really sweet when things are going our way and we think we're getting what we want. It's interesting to see how she reacts when she's afraid she won't get her way. Poor child, she's still immature.

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I think Dan is a sweet girl who's never had to struggle in life, especially with powerful brothers to protect her - and now that difficulties are coming up she's starting to realize that she has the potential to think and do ugly things to keep what she wants. She doesn't care about being princess, the drama's made it very clear that she's always had a crush on Won and she was fine with it being unreciprocated in theory. Now that he actually has someone he likes, she's learning the bitterness of a lonely love.

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She is just nice, self centered, but then find any rich girl who has it easy who isn't. Both she and San could be real bitches but they aren't. In fact in the real world circa this historic period they would both be dead lond ago because they have no ruthless streak.

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Before Won asked her to be crown princess Dan was not this determined to have Won. She fell hard for him but knew that it's entirely up to Won who he'd choose to be with. Won's promise to marry her really was like heaven to Dan and now she won't let it go whatever the cost. Poor girl.

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I don't believe Dan cares about the title, just as long as she has Won. But they are making it look like she'd be willing to do about anything to get him which in one way is good, since her best bet is to work on matching up Rin and San but leaves her open to manipulation by people who will tell her anything to get her to act in their interests. Which will leave Rin vulnerable since his sister, San and Won are his achilles

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I think maybe she knew Jeon was in on it. I think her reaction to Rin's admission was more about "I was trying to wrap this up on my own" and now she's distraught that he's getting caught up in it. I think her determination to kill Jeon then was to end things cleanly before Rin gets hurt.

I don't know anything anymore. But clearly I'm aboard the RinSan ship <3

Also the costumes in this show are so damn nice.

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I totally agree with you. That's my take when I watched San's reaction when the Queen confronted Rin. I see it as San's mad at Jeon and wanted him dead, so that she could finish her own revenge without hurting Rin and Dan. Even in this episode we could see that San didn't want Won to be involved in finding the murderer of her mom and people because she somehow knew Jeon's involved with the scheme, but she doesn't want to hurt Rin and Dan along.

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Has anyone else noticed how little bloodshed there has been in the drama since the first episode? I find that weird considering this is sageuk. Won said he wasn't afraid of a bloodbath, so I kept expecting one.

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*raises hand*. I have. Last one I watched was Jackpot which had blood in very episode, if I remember. At least someone seemed to die every episode.

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I was thinking the same while watching the next two episodes was like "How come no one died yet?" then realized it happened in the very first episode but that doesn't count since it was in the flashback.

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Yes! Considering also the political games that all the characters are playing.

On Song-in, how I wish he was more of a rebel fighting a noble cause instead of a corrupt and greedy one. The stakes would have been higher and the conflict greater if they asked Rin to join their cause, as many see him, including both the King and the Queen, as a capable ruler.

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These episodes were really interesting to me and felt like set-up episodes for major relationship shifts between our main trio (as did the next 2 - I'm trying really hard not to comment on them!).

I have been kind of slow to warm up to Won, but he is becoming more and more interesting. I think he knew Rin had something to confess that would rattle him, and didn't want to hear it - which is a bit immature and totally in character. Then when he found out that Rin suspected Jeon, I think he is going to try to protect Rin in his own way. He knows the queen is no fan of Rin, but I don't think he will betray him. He still wants to stay beside him, with Rin as the ever the obedient, silent, and supportive companion. So even though he seems to be increasingly aware of San and Rin's mutual attraction, he is ignoring it. At this point, he wants them both by his side and doesn't quite consider their feelings as totally relevant. So there's no way he's going to throw the Wang family to the wolves.

I am liking San more and more. She is trying to keep Rin out of her revenge scheme because she at least suspects that Jeon is a participant somehow in the incident. So I get her being upset when told he's the mastermind, and that Rin was partially aware. Either way - it was a great scene!

Rin - oh Rin, my love - is just a wonderful, perfect character. It should make him less interesting but it doesn't. He's loyal to Won, but eventually his rising love with San is going to overflow and he's going to have to put himself first. Won is going to see this as a betrayal, and since Won has made it clear that his only interest in being king is to protect Rin and San and keep them with him, we are in for major heartache! I really want Won to actually care about the people, which is what every other character wants for him except for Princess Wonsung.

Sorry for the novel! Clearly I have a lot of feelings about this show.

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You have excellent feelings about this show! Rin, the wonderful perfect character - you're so right that it should make him less interesting but it doesn't. Amazing writing and acting.

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Thank you! So glad this site exists, because otherwise I would have no one to discuss and spazz with :)

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Partly it's because of Hong Jong-hyun. He clearly stole most TKL beanies heart.

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HJH and his soothing quiet warm voice.... And his long fingers and his slender body. Dammit... Now I sound like a pervert. ??

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OMO yes to all. Glad that you mention his long fingers they are arts.

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True. Surprisingly since he was so despised in Moon Lovers.

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HJH is so magnetic as Rin that I sometimes forget to read the subtitles when he is onscreen and have to replay parts. My eyes are glued to his face.

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I also had this problem. When San was looking at Rin in shock from hearing the accusation, I thought "Didn't she find out already? Did I miss something?" and the scene that was supposed to have a strong impact came off a little flat.

Btw, can the king go f himself? Princess Wonsung is not the best of people (don't hurt Rin!), but he is such a lowlife and so pathetic I can't even look at him.

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I'm wondering if Song wants Rin to be CP not only because he's pure blood, but also thinks Rin can be easily manipulated since Rin is used to being subordinate. Won, Rin and San are all still very young so easily manipulated by older more experienced people who are used to court intrigue.

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I am super confused after this episode. First, I don't get it why Princess Wonsung would like to get rid of Rin or Dan. I knew she thought their family was a big threat to Won but I thought she already changed her mind about sending Rin away because her last attempt to send Rin or Dan to Yuan had made everything much more complicated and they just worked together to clean up the mess. Why start the whole thing over again? Especially she got the butterfly norigae from Eunuch Choi, whom she already knew was untrustworthy.
Second, I am also confused about San's reaction when she heard Jeon was involved in the murder. Even if she hadn't made a connection yet, it was quite obvious that Rin has been trying to prove to her that his brother was behind the murder. Why did San look so shocked as she was betrayed in the end?
Third, Song In needs someone from the royal family to be his puppet and he believes that Rin would turn to him for help if he has nowhere to go. He certainly is overconfident in that. Plus, if Rin's family is accused of treason, they will be at least exiled and erased from the royal family tree. Therefore, even if Rin betrays Won as he predicted, Rin still can't be his puppet King-to-be.

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> First, I don't get it why Princess Wonsung would like to get rid of Rin or Dan

Like she said, she wants Won's bride to be a strength so there no need to be flawed. If you remember the 1st ep when Won get punished by the king for being missing, The queen slapped in front of people and say that she wishes Rin to die.

It obvious that the reason the queen help them earlier is that Rin promised to leave and it awakens Won's ambition. She acknowledges Rin but she also doesn't believe him and believe that he is an obstacle, even as a pawn for Won's kingdom. She always wants to make Rin disappeared from ep 1.

> Why did San look so shocked as she was betrayed in the end?

I think it's a shocked and panicked reaction cause she doesn't think Jeon is the mastermind and Rin witness isn't telling the truth. She is like "I finally get the prove who is behind the whole things and I need to kill him" before remembering what had happened.

but she is gonna thinking about it later

> He certainly is overconfident in that. Plus, if Rin's family is accused of treason, if Rin's family is accused of treason, they will be at least exiled and erased from the royal family tree

I think his confidence comes from the Kings, even if Wang family accused of treason, they can be rebels and if they succeed , it's not a treason, it's the new royal family. Rin is extremely devoted to his family so far and song in must want to used them. Like if the CP wants to kill Rin's family, Rin's will stand up for his family.

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Rin was always standing up for Won, even before his family. That's why Won is so confident in Rin. I think he treats Rin like a pet dog who is faithful and loyal. Who was it that Rin said they could do whatever to his brother? I can't remember if he said that to Won or San.

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yeah I know that Rin also placed Won high on his list,

I wrote the comment based on Song In view of Rin.
That no matter how righteous someone is, if their family in danger, it can be Jeon, the dad or Dan or 3 of them, there's always possibility for Rin to stand up without Won [in the meaning of rebellion against the Queen since throwing the queen down will also damage Won]

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I think Rin would choose Won over his brother, Jeon, but when it comes to people hurting his sister, he won't stand still and do nothing. I definitely could see Rin putting his family first if it's involving his whole family being framed of something they didn't do. I think by then, he'd go against Won if he needs to.

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Me too, honestly what does he have going for him? Rin/Lin is the only (male) member of that familly who is 'nice' - I cannot accept the father either because in the book he is not only the richest man in Goreyo after the King but a revolutionary. In my book, anyone who sides with Song In and the King is evil. Song In is actually the fundamental strategist he needs a lingering and painful end to realise his despicable nature. I don't think Rin would save even his sister Dan, whom he clearly loves and is very close to, if it came to the ultimate test .Though not a Rin San shipper (they are both nice and I love them to bits) neither of them hears/believes the fundamental message coming from Won... I would rather not be CP than loose either of you... but in the end, I will be alone if I have to (be), because to be parted from either of you is unthinkable. He cares for Dan but doesn't love her, he would never-the-less prefer to save and protect her. What is really so captivating about this drama is that, at it's heart is the dilemma which affects each and everyone of us: we all love, but the reason why is unique to the given individual. We do not necessarilly even choose to love, or not and many times it is the wrong person, for they cannot (despite themselves) love us back. I happen to think the one thing this writer has done in this drama is throw away the "immage" of Won which history has bequethed us. He really is not perfect, but he is not evil either, far from it. Except for his friendship with Rin he has always been alone and never known unconditional love. San cannot give him that, for several reasons. She knows she is damaged and only exacting revenge for her mother's death will allow her to move on and embrace the future. Rin knows his familly is caught up in a revolution but doesent choose to acknowlede it (in a similar way to Won: who would never choose San/Ri Rin/San). The real tragedy is that while everyone pretends to support Won, whatever he does, no one loves him for his simple self. He loves the whole nation, but not himself nor his destiny.

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If Princess Wonsung didn't try to send Dan or Rin away in the first place, Won didn't really have to marry Dan. I thought she already learned the lesson...Well, she didnt. She got the evidence from Eunuch Choi (it was implied that way), who she knew was a rat. For me, she just fell into the trap too easily.

As for San's reaction, I have watched the next episode to be honest, which didn't help at all...

I guess you are right, if Rin becomes the King it doesn't matter if his family committed treason or not. However, I just got the impression that Song In's plan is to defame Won and make him unfit for the CP title so that they can have someone else with pure blood as the new CP with some good reason. If they go down the rebellion route, I don't think they are strong enough to fight with Won's grandfather, which was why the King married Princess Wonsung in the first place.

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I think Rin being Crown Prince would be the last thing he would ever want. Unless the writer changes his character suddenly.

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> I thought she already learned the lesson...Well, she didnt

no, since the start of the drama, she always aware of how troublesome Rin family existence for Won if they are against Won.
She wants to gain the family but exiled Rin. It showed in ep 1 iirc.
She isn't fell into a trap for throwing Jeon into the murder but Song In is assisting the Queen to destroy Rin family,

Song In hoped that the Queen will chase Rin that the Queen will actively try to kill Rin and Rin's family so Rin will be desperate to stay alive no matter what. That's when Rin will ask help from Song In.

The miscalculation is Rin is ready to give it up [about Jeon], that's why the elevated it to San.

It's not making Rin the actual rebel but giving the aid to the queen plan to kill Rin and then save Rin.

Yeah the queen didn't see song in big plan because she thought she can kill Rin but Song In does that cause he believes he can save Rin from the queen and gain him.

I know it sounds complicated but what I want to say is the queen has a short term plan, entirely motivated by her, song in help make that happen [providing the info and poison] but plan to save Rin later.

What I mean by San shocked face as she never thought that Jeon is the main conspirator then she suddenly got the prove by the queen, she acts on impulse, stopped by Won, later she remembers what Rin does and changes her mind. She didn't feel betrayed by Rin at the end.

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Highlights of this episode:
1. I love Rin's clothes... His blue clothes with flower decoration on the sleeves. So pretty!!
2. Rin's smile... OMG. This is the 2nd time, I saw his smile. So swoony..
3. I love HJh's acting when he was captured and the way he looked at San. He didn't say anything just breathing hard and his eyes told how much he was suffering, guilt and how much he wanted to tell San everything. The background music was also perfect, it perfectly described how Rin felt. I was so sad when I saw that scene, I can feel his sadness and sorrow and how much he really love San.

Damn... HJH! I don't know he is capable on making me feel this way. To think that I really hate him in Scarlet Heart. You got me... I think now I am obsessed with him (and Rin). LOL..

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To be fair the actors are all doing us proud, even the (hated) idols are breaking ground and that means the PD should be congratulated. I love Yoona but I have never seen her pull off such nuanced performance before. (I think she must have a private life afterall. For one cannot act what one has not experienced.) Kim So-Hyun in 'Ruler' discovered this, she also had extreemly unsympathetic treatment from the PD and a terrible writer. His Achilles heel is that he sits on the fence, one cannot be faithful to multiple masters, his loyalty is either to his family, San, or Won. Actually, I believe Won, though he is desperate for San would not be satisfied to choose between them. I think he is unique in that.

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But he has chosen, when Rin and San were imprisoned he chose to get San released. A girl he knew a short time over his lifelong friend

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I agree he's doing a great job! And he has the best outfits :) He shows all of Ron's emotions so well, usually by saying very little. And so swoony too!

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I feel the same way! i thought he looked scary before lol but with this gentle role as Rin i'm falling for him more and more~ and kind of random but i think his height difference with San and Won is super cute lol. he's literally the gentle giant haha

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His Wang Yo indeed made him look scary but he nailed the role too. Yo brought tension and seriousness to SH. I can safely say HJH is a versatile actor!

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Anw.. Back to my pessimistic me...
1. I was wondering why the show heavily promotes Won and San as their main couple. The posters and teasers suggested that way. Do they intend to change the story from the novel? I think this is what make WonSan shippers go gaga in sosmed. They said they were cheated by the teasers and posters... Which result in them spamming hate and threathening to not watching the dramas in MBC's personal IG and even in HJH's IG.
2. The drama starts to cut some scenes (the most obvious is on next episode where they cut few important scenes, imo). Why is that?
3. My gut feeling tells me that the show won't ever show Won's dark side. I feel that they reluctant to do this? Maybe because they were selling Im-Im's couple from the start and worry they will get backlash if they show Won as a low key villain?
4. Even if the other characters keep saying that San has feeling for Rin, somehow I don't buy it. Imo, the show obviously starts to switching gear to Won (next epi somehow convinces me about this)... Or maybe this is just me being over-suspicious? ???

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I heard about people getting super upset. I can't believe they'd leave hate comments on HJH's instagram, that is ridiculous.
The only point I can give the crazies is that the posters featured very little of Rin, and maybe they should have had one of Yoona and HJH together. But seriously - it's a great drama and Won is a great character. Its not like Siwan was forced to play him. And even the posters are super awkward between Won and San, which is a very accurate representation of their relationship. Ugh, people!! I hope they don't screw up the editting to try and pacify everyone. Thank goodness it's already filmed. But really do they even watch the show? San has shown no real romantic interest in Won, they just want them together because he's billed as the "lead" and because he's a prince character, and usually they get the girl.

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Re Rin, and Won switching gears in the next episodes, isn't that usually what happens to the real love interest, the episodes for the true loves are very angsty the last few episodes and when things look darkest, the last episode or two they come together again.

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I don't see how people can't like Rin and San together :) It doesn't mean Won is in the background. I agree with you, it is a story of how he loves (and hopefully grows as a person from that). Hopefully they can't change the editing too much! I hope the Korean audience as a whole is enjoying the story, especially since the romantic parts have been pretty straightforward - and interesting! But I'm surprised Won hasn't gone dark yet. Maybe losing Rin will push him that way?

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My concerns as well... They should really have a poster showing only Yoona and HJH. But what is done is done.
Now I am worry that they may change the ending. Can they do that? I know this is a pre-produced drama.. But them cutting scenes really makes me worry..

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Cutting scenes worries me too! And since they seem to only cut scenes that push the RinSan pairing, I'd be a lot more worried if filming wasn't done. But hopefully they won't leave out a lot of good scenes!

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This is what HJH said in an interview: "Our drama has kind of a twist until the end, like "What's this? What's this?" And when it ends, when we think about our final scene (he smiles) there's something that chokes us up. Really." You can take that either way, so I'm kinda worried. However, I still can't forget the Won voice over where he says when did it go wrong and he says it was at the masked thing. When his best friend began to betray him and when his love and he began to be separated by an impassable chasm or impenetrable river or something to that effect.

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It all depends on where you watch. I normally download all episodes to dtorage, even RAWs but I stopped it with this one bcause I am running low on space and I can always rewatch any episode online. This really is an amazing drama as it can stand rewatchin multiple times. It actualy has very few plot holes, because of excellent writin but also, how we understand this drama is so dependant on how we perceive it, and that is different for each of us: hence the amazing value of the bennie comminity, because we dare exchange our views (and thank goodness, there is no hate on this site!)

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thinking about it, i remember when we first got a lot of those promo posters and a lot of people were commenting on how awkward yoona and siwan looked together. at the time, people seemed to chalk it up to yoona's acting or lack of chemistry with siwan, which unfortunately led to many of them not bothering to check out this gem of a drama :( now i see that the posters most likely looked that way because their relationship, when he tries to push it towards the romantic end, is very uncomfortable.

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1) I thought the promotional poster is tricky cause Yoona isn't facing Siwan and they promise a love triangle. The things I would be complaint if the development is illogical but it's not.

2) I see the cut too but only happen in the streaming

3) It's pre-produced and Im Siwan already in the military. Idk how they'll cut the scene more to change the story tbh

4) I think San has a feeling for Rin, suggested by many other instances but it get to neutral ground this week,
It clear that he has more interest to Rin than Won but it doesn't always mean that she'll choose with Rin until the end considering the emotional baggage related to her mother

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So agree with point no 4. I'm afraid for now it is too complicated for RinSan to be together.

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The Wonsan posters are confusing but in both, she never looked at him. They should have just left it with the threesome poster.

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Seriously? The novel is different in so many ways!

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I think MBC is scared of backlash from conservative/traditional viewers maybe? They are kind of toning it down. The novel was pretty epic. In that sense, the drama is disappointing me a bit.

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"The drama starts to cut some scenes (the most obvious is on next episode where they cut few important scenes, imo). Why is that?" -> How do you guys find out those cut scenes? Do you watch two versions? I knew our recapper has said in first epi but I only watch the one in cable One which exclusively airs the show.

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One channel has the full scenes. The cut version is the one aired in Korea. I realized this coz someone in IG posts the cut scenes saying she didn't see that scenes when she watched them in korean tv.

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The cut version is aired in Korea? Weird. Do you know what's behind it?

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This episode was the first time I really despised Won. He knows full well San's guilt and trauma over her mother's death yet he used it so easily to try and manipulate her into staying, for what? It was such an ugly thing to do and I'm still pissed about it, especially because San's father might be dying and he's stealing the time she could be spending with him (after nearly a decade of having to deny their relationship!). Screw Won, I'm so mad at him.

Rin, on the other hand, is a different kind of idiot and I love him so much :( :( :( This is not going to end well for me lmao

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Won was very selfish to do that! He still thinks about himself first.

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At least half of us are going to be devastated at the end, or all of us if neither of them end together. My happy ending would be RinSan are together but go back to Won who is alone, just like the returning falcon to the master.

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We were promised this to be epic love triangle but it's totally lacking in the romance department.

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I hated that part too. For the first time, I truly hated Won. Now, San's father is gonna die. :(

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You are completely wrong, he is the only person who comes close to undertanding San!

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I don't agree Jeon didn't conspire, he was 1 present and 2 gave clear orders to leave no person as a witness.
Ha, So they do indeed both share the guilt complex (how adorable the young San is)…
Why is the Assistant Royal Secretary played so camp?

So the father says they gave up seeking revenge a long time ago - well San still wants revenge only now she knows its at the expense of hurting Rin and Dan because Rin’s second brother was behind the killings. Rin finally decides he should tell Won the truth, Wang Jeon is responsible for killing the Minister of Finances wife, eight years earlier at Sangjukjae? …Poor Won, even now has too good an opinion of his father. His father doesen’t give a damn for his people…Why does San suddenly look so bitter at Rin? She surly knows Jeon is Rin’s family?…Oooooh Won “my hero”!

Now we know what binds them is unique.

This is sick how can Moo Suk snake tatoo, venim of Son In, feel for Bi Yeon when he slashed her face.

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Why is the Assistant Royal Secretary played so camp?

exactly... I guess he is the comic relief now since other supporting characters (Won'e eunuch or the 2 stooges) get lesser screen time lately.

funny that he is the same actor who played the twisted King / evil professor in Saimdang

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Wait, I just realized that the twisted King and evil professor in Saimdang is the same actor?! Whaaattt?! How did I not notice this when I watched this? Maybe I'm too immersed with both leads, and of course Yang Se-jong as well. Oh well...

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Hahah..but you did realize Yang Se-jong was both young Lee Gyeom and the young lecturer right?

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I did realize that, no worries.??I also realized Crown Prince and the website person are the same actor as well. Just not the King and evil prof. ?

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So, I'm very much in the same boat as our recapper here about who knows what and when they know it. I feel that everyone already knows that Song In is the mastermind (except maybe Mr. Oblivious King), Jeon is the puppet, and Rin is guilty by association and omission. Even now, at the conclusion of these episodes, San's shock is not due to the fact that Rin is implicated; no, it's because she sees that the Princess has found him out and he will likely be killed or, at the very least, tortured for his family's treason. Those are tears of love! But also of revenge, because, in her mind, Jeon is the epitome of evil, even if he is a puppet. Song In is too strong for her and loved by Mr. Oblivious, so she can't touch him. And she is young and reckless, from which she still hasn't matured, which is why she is still set on revenge.

Won definitely has a plan, but isn't sharing it!!! Again, the right hand never knows what the left is doing. No wonder everyone is so distrustful in Goryeo.

And so glad Rin finally tells the truth, but not so glad there was no climax in his revelation.

This episode just seemed weak in my feeble mind. Going to watch the next two now. I hope they're better.

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Oh! Yeah that's a plausible reason for why she's shocked! But she's always being so reckless. Besides, I honestly don't think she'd kill Jeon even if she had a chance.

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Yesh she is reckless but she has liitle choice, because her sincerity and morality demands she achieive her mother's revenge to expiate her own guilt. Won is the only one who understands this, Rin/lin is good but also conflicted. He thinks he can protect his familly and his love. That is wrong. Ther is only ever one ultra.

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I agree. I can't wait for DB to post the recap for the next episode so that we can all discuss it already!

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Thanks for the recap!

This was a confusing and messy episode. I don't get why San was surprised to hear Rin's confession, didn't she already knew that Jeon was involved that's why she wanted to give up on revenge in order to protect Rin from getting entangled in the crime?

The recap didn't focus on it, but I loved the scene when Won and San were doing some paper work and San stood up to leave, Won asked San where she was going and San said a lady must not be asked where she's going (or something like that). But when Rin arrived and asked her where she was going, she answered that she's going outside t get some fresh air because her head (I think) hurts. lol
I know that he's actually just worried that she'll do something reckless again but c'mon #RinSan haha

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Well, I've been awake for almost 24 hrs because I'm reinstalling OS and apps on a willfully naughty smartphone, so I am reading recaps and rewatching episodes (TKL) ...it's got to be right because I'm leaving the country in just over a day ... but my biggest problem will be walking around Rome wondering what Rin Won and San are doing and if Dan will be saved. Come on Won, it's all down to you!

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Rome! Lots of us beanies seem to be going there recently! Have fun!

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Yes love that RinSan parts but dislike Won's bossy telling Rin he's had San guard to protect her.

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I do to. Won knows what San is up to because he has her followed night and day. Rin knows what San plans to do because he pays attention to her, and how she thinks.

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I waited for this drama to air, and while waiting I read the novel's summary. I thought the writer will make and arrange the events, topics and characters sensibly, that the viewers will anticipate each episode -- since it will tackle politics, love and friendship. The politics plot is a mess actually, a King with no thoughts of his own, Minister Song and Song In the obvious mastermind of treason and the likes, a Queen -- a powerful Queen -- that can identify and manipulate a lot of things in/out of the palace EXCEPT for Song In's puppets and plans. The love plot, I dont buy the ambiguous thingy about whos who in San's heart -- Won? Rin? don't get me wrong, I love RinSan development but both teams have no concrete or strong event which will support how San fell in love with one of them. Stop with the BGM forcing us to view it as a sweet and heart fluttering scene, and enough with other characters in the drama saying who is who in San's heart. The writer/s should better have a prepared scene that will make us go "ah, yeah, he is really the one in San's heart". And for the friendship plot, Rin is loyal, protective and considerate to Won because Won is his Crown Prince -- Rin will always be in his line. Won is caring and doing things for Rin because Rin is his most loyal and trustworthy subject -- his flagpole. I can view their relationship as friendship if and only they will sacrifice or do something for one another without regarding their royal position. How will they prove their friendship. I hope the characters and events will have consistency on who knows who, who knows why, who knows everything and who knows nothing. The only thing that keeps me watching this drama is to find out how much the writer differ it from the novel (as of now its 180°, lol) which means I need to watch till the end and ofcourse, Yoona :-)

Anyway, I just wish this drama will make people view it as it is -- what shown on screen, and not dissecting too much on each characters eyes (even the pupil movement! LOL), hands, body movement, words, BGM lyrics and inner ambiguous thoughts just to explain the real deal. Because at 10pm of a busy day - Monday, I prefer to have a nice evening and watch a good drama that will somehow ease my chaotic-over-work- load mind -- not to give me another puzzle to solve.

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I'm still enjoying the pretty over here too. Although, I would love some more wide angle shots with water and nature. I missed those in these episodes.

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"I love RinSan development but both teams have no concrete or strong event which will support how San fell in love with one of them"

To me how San develops feelings for Rin is clear from the start. At first she seemed to have a soft spot for him because his calm and cold blooded manner, she can trust Rin as when she decided they could join her to go collecting wine. Then she must see that Rin is a reliable and loyal person always stands for his best friend Won. And the next series of events were Rin was always be there to catch her, rescue her, etc. I believe from all those events San has grown feelings for Rin and the big moment was the rooftop scene where she realized it was always Rin that comes saving her.

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It's so funny.. When I read comments in dramabeans' TKL recaps, almost all are RinSan shippers and are very optimistic that the otp is RinSan. But when I read comments in youtube and IG, my heart sinks with the way wonsan shippers are so convince that WonSan is the endgame. Especially bcoz Siwan is the mainlead, the promo posters and teasers, as well as some ambiguous scenes that can be interpreted differently. Some also hope TKL will be like Scarlet Heart, where the girl falls in love with second lead first then falls in love with the main lead...

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No, the end is a tragedy for everyone.

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I didn't use IG but I think the viewer here tend to guess based on the development and story rather than the promotional poster, not to say that they are wrong but I think the premise of the drama is about won Journey rather than just who he end up with.

I understand wanting the lead to be the otp but that means we need to undermine what actually happen in the drama, love changes and that doesn't mean that the 1st love is false.

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Some comments are pretty hilarious, though. I read one RinSan shipper post that said the title is The King Loves and not The King Is Loved. But I agree that the online fighting has been toxic. I try to ignore them now and just read the recaps and comments on DB. It helps me to further enjoy my drama viewing.

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*cool headed OMOO cold blooded what was that?

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"Anyway, I just wish this drama will make people view it as it is -- what shown on screen, and not dissecting too much on each characters eyes (even the pupil movement! LOL), hands, body movement, words, BGM lyrics and inner ambiguous thoughts just to explain the real deal. Because at 10pm of a busy day - Monday, I prefer to have a nice evening and watch a good drama that will somehow ease my chaotic-over-work- load mind -- not to give me another puzzle to solve."

-- TBH, if you want an easy watch, then this drama may not be the one for you. I don't think this drama was meant for easy watching, and while some people have taken analyzing it to a whole different level (usually to push for ships), I think the story is layered and nuanced, requiring careful watching.

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Thank you so much for that. But the beauty of this writer's work is that it does work from whatever point of view . There is going to be a very late revalation to the ultimate secrets and I am pissed that I shall not be able to see further episodes for a whole week. Really, whichever side one takes this is an icredibly good drama. The productin values and acting standards are outstanding. It is just a sad thing that in Korea it isn't valued very hghly. We are all being played with, by the writer, we should be thankful.

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They have such a scene in the next episode, highlighting how much she cares for ...

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I'm not sure what's San thinking during Rin confession but I'm so disappointed in her reaction and Won as well upon hearing that Rin's being taken to the interrogation court. I was expecting San to run to Rin defending him, telling the Queen that he has nothing to do with it. I'm so heartbroken seeing Rin's expression T.T
And Won, he heard about Rin but the one crosses his mind only San and go after her uuugh. If it's Won or San, Rin will surely dash to the rescue.

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Exactly!! Rin is always there to help and rescue Won or San. But when he is the one who is in trouble, they both left him... T_T #mypoorRin

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#mypoorRin T.T

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When you just learn who killed your mother, what is likely to be going through your mind? Especially, if you have been dying to take revenge for 7 years.

Also, Rin was being asked to prove his brother's wrong doing not his crime. He wasn't been charged for any crime at that scene.

But as a family member, he would be implicated no matter how.

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Nooo Rin's admission during that scene does not indicate at all that Jeon is the one who killed San's mother and truthfully he wasn't it was Moo-suk. Plus San already learned that Jeon was involved. So to me her reaction doesn't make sense.

That's why Rin only implicated since he's Jeon's brother I wanted San to ask the Queen to release him because he has nothing to do with the crime.

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Correct, but wouldn't you be more enraged after finding out the murderer than worry about Rin who really was not in any danger at that point. He was not being tortured or imprisoned.

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To answer those who have asked: San knew that Jeon was involved but it was only during the interrogation bureau scene that she knew (wrongfully) the extent of Jeon's involvement in her mother's death--specifically, that he was actively behind it. W/c is why she went batshit. I think she's known for a while that Jeon was somehow involved, but in her mind, he was more of a lanky than an active conspirator/instigator.

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*lacky

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I really like this drama but, when I can watch the kiss scene?

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Lets pray there will be at least one kiss eventually between our leads because the way I see it now it just too complicated for proper romance for whichever pairs.

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Yeah lets pray.... my ship is sailing I am hope Won get the first kiss from San. I don't care with who San will end up.

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Though I saw some consistent praise about princess wonsung here, I was never her fan. Her manipulation and using people for her own gain was too much to overlook and I kind of guessed that it's not after all about her son's happiness what matters for her, it's 'what she wants for her son is what matters'. I had enough of her tricks and conniving attitude and she's getting on my nerves. And what if eun san doesn't like the prince, as a mother shouldn't she tell her son to not forcefully try to win a girl? She herself has been wronged by the king yes, but seeing her treatment with other people, I can't feel sorry for her anymore. People need to know who are their true friends and power isn't everything. And Rin has stayed by Won's side for all these years, so I'm sure he will gladly be his right hand when Won becomes king too.
Another weak and selfish character that's starting to look wearisome is Dan, but I'll keep my rant for ep 27-28 lol.

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I don't think you ever considered her background fairly. She was taken as a trophy wife, always treated as an inferior (like Won because of his mixed race) - although of course they have highbrid vigour and are a very real asset to the society which accepts them. What she does have in spades, whether you like it or no, is political gravitas. She also knows the pain of not being loved, but humiliated is sharper than the keenest sward. Dan is not pathetic, she just does not have a nasty side to her even in her darkest moments. She is also a victim in this drama, but her outward appearance of being privaledged hides this, particularly from female viewers who are always the least sympathetic of femal characters unless they are proxies for themselves.

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re;particularly from female viewers who are always the least sympathetic of femal characters unless they are proxies for themselves.

Sadly, it is true, true.

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for real :( and the more people deny that it is the case, the harder it is to even talk about it. as a girl who has defended so many female characters from people who expect them to be sassy, smart, badass, etc etc etc instead of "worthless damsels in distress", i gotta say it gets really tiring and i've pretty much stopped getting into those debates at all. not saying it wouldn't be nice to have more variety in female leads (because it would be great!), putting down certain qualities so harshly and deeming characters worthless for having them seems pretty reductive.

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Well considering San's reaction towards Rin's admission about his family's involvement in the killing of her mother I believe that the script and writer wanted her reaction to be a mix of shock, sadness and confusion. She is shocked and sad that Rin would give up his family for her. Yet at the same time the confirmation that Jeon really had something to do with it brings up the hidden rage and anger. It confuses her because she's realizing at that moment that she's getting close to the revenge she wanted so much but that it also means Rin's death. The mix of those emotions explains her intense reaction to the point of crying. But Yoona can't go that far as an actress so her crying looked like San being shocked and angry about the betrayal instead the deep layered conflict San was supposed to have at that moment.

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I think you do her a huge disservice. She has really increased her stature as a serious actress (commercially that is recognised as she is big money) and I have never seen her deliver such a klidascope of emotions or personalities before. Though I like her a lot she is not my dream girl, but the decision to cast her as San was fantastic.

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Never been a fan of her. But, yoona did well with the expression. She got me with tears at that scene. I see the resentment of her towards wang jeon after learning the truth. That angry/hatred face of her is not directed at Rin but, at what spoken by the Queen. After this drama, I start to see her in new light. She work hard.

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