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Because This Life Is Our First: Episode 12

Love can make one foolish and irrational. It can also be all-consuming and fervent, as our heroine learns as she falls in love for the first time. Sneaking glances and holding hands, our couple is now free to express their feelings, but like the beginning of most relationships, they tread carefully, making sure to keep their emotions in check. Our couple reaches new heights of adorableness this episode, and I can’t stop smiling!

 
Episode 12: “Because this is my first time with desire”

Se-hee tells Ji-ho that the kiss at the bus stop wasn’t a real kiss, and leaning in closer, he says that this is how you do it. He kisses Ji-ho, much to her surprise, but when he asks if they need to do it again, she says yes.

They kiss once more, embracing each other, but a phone rings, interrupting them. Ji-ho doesn’t hear the phone, completely immersed in the kiss, so it takes a while for Se-hee to grab her attention. Heh. It’s Mom calling, asking where they are, and Ji-ho hastily tells her that they’re just watching the ocean.

They decide to head back to the house, and Se-hee wonders if she acted too angry with her mother. Ji-ho explains how her dialect makes her sound mad because her voice naturally gets louder, and Se-hee readily agrees since he already analyzed the dialect while making kimchi.

He starts to list off the different pronunciations of words he heard, one of them being “pretty,” and Ji-ho wonders if the ajummas joked about him being pretty. He explains that they asked him if he thought Ji-ho was pretty, and though Ji-ho looks up at him with expectant eyes, wanting to hear how he responded, Se-hee merely smiles and says that they should go.

It’s nighttime, and Ji-ho and Se-hee say their final goodbyes at the door. However, an ajusshi from before stops Se-hee, forcing him one last drink before he leaves. Ji-ho intervenes, grabbing the bowl, and drinks it in one gulp in his stead. Glaring at the husband, she drops to informal speech, and threatens to dunk his son-in-law in a liquor jar if he bothers her husband again. Se-hee steps behind Ji-ho with a triumphant smile plastered on his face.

As Ji-ho’s brother Ji-seok and his wife drive them to the bus station, Ji-seok recalls the last time Ji-ho threatened that same ajusshi when he stole the stray dog Ji-ho was taking care of, saying he’d eat it. In retaliation, she stole his cultivator and threatened to sink it in the ocean if he didn’t return the dog. Looking back at Se-hee, Ji-seok says that once Ji-ho gives her heart to something, it lasts forever, but Se-hee stares out the window with a sad look on his face.

Once they arrive at the station, Ji-ho and Se-hee turn to go, but a bicyclist rides dangerously close to them. Se-hee pulls her in, saving her from a collision, and the two exchange a look before separating. Perceptively, Eun-sol notes how “fresh” they look, almost as if they’re in the beginning stages of dating rather than married.

On the bus, Ji-ho wonders if they should ask to switch seats to sit next to one another, but Se-hee tells her not to, because it would inconvenience the other passenger. Sitting in the front, Ji-ho thinks to herself that all her childhood dramas and movies ended with kisses, and now she realizes why: The real story happens afterwards, but people don’t want to watch the truth since it can be painful and dark.

Remembering their kiss, Ji-ho grows hot, and narrates, “The drama between that man and me has only just begun. And my desires have also of only just begun. All of the romantic cells inside of me have woken up.”

They arrive at the apartment in the early morning, and after petting Cat together, they stand awkwardly in the hallway, neither making the first move to leave. After Se-hee says that he had fun making kimchi and adventuring at the beach, they playfully argue over who should go in first.

Ji-ho relents, but before closing her door, she pokes her head out and adorably waves goodnight to Se-hee. He returns the sentiment, waving back. They’re so CUTE!

Ji-ho scrolls through pictures of Se-hee saved on her phone, and realizes that they don’t have a proper picture together. In his own room, Se-hee does the exact same thing, and looks at pictures of Ji-ho on his phone.

He suddenly gets a text from Ji-ho, while in her room, she kicks her blanket in embarrassment for asking about his response to whether he thought she was pretty. Se-hee texts her back, telling her that he said she was pretty, and Ji-ho lights up.

As Se-hee turns out the lights, he stares once more at a photo of Ji-ho and smiles. SO. MUCH. CUTENESS.

Meanwhile, Ji-ho tosses and turns in her bed, unable to fall asleep. She sighs over the fact that they aren’t sleeping together in the same bed, but then bolts up, disgusted by her own thoughts. Heh.

Won-seok wakes up to an empty bed and finds breakfast already made for him. Ho-rang left early for work, and at the bus stop, she longingly watches the mothers send their kindergartners off to school. Ho-rang hesitates before answering Won-seok’s call, and they make plans for their date later today. He says, “I love you,” and after a pause, she says it, too—though both sound drained rather than happy.

Su-ji tries on the bras Sang-gu bought for her, but all of them are uncomfortable and ugly. She decides to order a custom one, and finds a local craftsperson who specializes in custom undergarments. Su-ji is impressed by her knowledge and amount of data, and mentions organizing it all and creating an online database for future transactions.

The woman thanks her for the advice, but she’s only doing this as a part-time job since she’s married. Su-ji apologizes for overstepping, and asks for the cost (250,000 won), which causes her jaw to hit the floor.

Won-seok arrives at work, and jumps back in fright at the sight of Se-hee sleeping in the massage chair. Se-hee came in despite it being the weekend to use the chair (since the kimchi-making made him sore) and wonders if Won-seok came for the same reason. But Won-seok is only stopping by before his date later.

He suddenly asks Se-hee if he loves Ji-ho, but takes back his question after Se-hee gives him an odd look. Thinking for a moment, Se-hee invites Won-seok for some coffee, and the two relocate outside to talk.

Won-seok confesses his recent worries about marriage, relationships, and love. He tells Se-hee that he no longer fights with Ho-rang even though they’re both aware that they’re thinking differently, and Se-hee understands, since an argument might lead to something irreversible.

Se-hee also confesses that he and Ji-ho didn’t marry out of love, but rather because their needs matched and neither felt uncomfortable with each other. But as Se-hee found peace with himself through their marriage, feelings for Ji-ho grew in his heart.

He advises Won-seok to be honest with Ho-rang since humans are naturally selfish, and explains how marriage is one of those instances where selfish desires show most clearly. Won-seok argues that he has no desires, since he only wants to make Ho-rang happy and can’t live without her.

Se-hee repeats Won-seok’s statements, and points out that the subject in each one is Won-seok, never Ho-rang. Having imparted his wisdom, Se-hee gets up to leave, but turns around to ask Won-seok a question: “What do people do on a date these days?”

Thoughts about the kiss consume Ji-ho as she furiously wipes the table at work. Su-ji stops by to ask to “borrow” Ji-ho’s chest, so they move to the backroom where Su-ji collects her measurements. She excitedly tells Ji-ho about gathering data and enabling people to custom-order bras, widening the customer base. Noticing the twinkle in Su-ji’s eye, Ji-ho says that she should just start her own business.

Su-ji says that can’t leave her high-paying job since this life isn’t hers, and Ji-ho apologizes. Su-ji changes the subject to Ji-ho, and asks if she’s struggling with lust since the man she likes lives in the next room. Ji-ho denies it emphatically, and Su-ji finds that odd, wondering if it’s because she’s never dated anyone before.

Ji-ho sits at the bus stop, remembering Su-ji’s advice: Don’t get physically close if she isn’t going to sleep with Se-hee because it’s like opening Pandora’s box. Nearby, a group of high school girls talk about how their friend is good at something because she’s a fearless first-timer and that newbies are more hardcore. Ji-ho audibly agrees with their statement. Heh.

She hangs her head in shame, and right then, Se-hee shows up to sit down next to her. He came by hoping that he might see her here after work, and asks if she wants to do anything. Ji-ho can only stare at his lips, imagining him seductively make kissing faces and licking his lips, and loudly protests that she doesn’t want to do anything.

So Se-hee asks if she wants to do what he wants, then, and holds out his hand for her to take.

Walking down the street, he leads her to a crowd gathered around some musicians busking (cameo by MeloMance, who sing an OST for the show), and much to her disappointment, he lets go of her hand to applaud. Afterwards, Se-hee explains why he likes cats, but Ji-ho is preoccupied with trying to hold his hand again. She’s such a precious cinnamon roll!

When asked about her favorite animal, Ji-ho says that she likes snails because they take their home with them, and her interpretation impresses Se-hee. Off in the distance, he sees a game stand, and suggests playing. Ji-ho is unenthusiastic at first, but perks up as soon as Se-hee grabs her hand to lead her to their next stop.

Ho-rang and Won-seok head off for their date, and notice a man spectacularly failing at popping balloons at a game stand. As they get closer, they realize it’s Se-hee, who puts on a serious expression every time he throws the dart, only to miss miserably. Hehehe.

Ho-rang asks Ji-ho what’s wrong with Se-hee, but Won-seok clues them in about how Se-hee asked him about his date course. Realizing the reason behind Se-hee’s action, Ji-ho steps up when he buys another round of darts, and impressively pops every balloon with each throw. The crowd around them cheers, and Se-hee proudly watches Ji-ho.

As Se-hee carries the doll that Ji-ho won, she asks why he wanted to win it so badly. He explains that it’s hers, and that he wanted it because it’s a snail (whose shell is a house), and hands it to her. He also hands her a small box to carry since that’s hers, too, and hurries on ahead—though he looks back to make sure she’s still following him. Heh.

At home, Su-ji organizes the data about custom bras, and then get enraptured in designing new bras, which makes her miss calls from Sang-gu.

So Su-ji arrives at the hotel room late for their date, and appeases Sang-gu with a back-hug. He asks if she’s braless again, but Su-ji tells him that she’s underwear-less this time, teasing him to check for himself.

After some sexy fun-times, Su-ji and Sang-gu freshen up together, but when Su-ji brings out her own hair dryer, he comments on how much easier it would be for them to just meet at home. She ignores his complaints, and Sang-gu drops the topic, instead offering to dry her hair for her.

At a cafe, Ji-ho opens the box, which contains earrings. Se-hee explains how he always wanted to gift her something like everyone else, and Ji-ho says that he must have also wanted to go on a date like everyone else, too.

She mentions their age gap, highlighting the different milestones they had at the same time, and Se-hee mildly objects to being treated as so old, ha. Ji-ho asked Sang-gu for advice on dating someone older and had been told about this cafe, which Se-hee used to frequent, and Se-hee looks around, momentarily lost in thought.

Ji-ho shyly excuses herself to go to the bathroom to try on the earrings, and comments to herself on how adorable Se-hee is. As she puts in the earrings, she drops an earring back, and another occupant (Lee Chung-ah) picks it up.

Noticing Ji-ho struggle, the woman offers to help, and in a rather intimate moment, she puts the earring in for Ji-ho. They meet again in the cafe, as Ji-ho finds the woman sitting at her table. She apologizes, citing this spot as having the best view, and gets up to leave. She exits the cafe moments before Se-hee rejoins Ji-ho at the table.

Ho-rang and Won-seok eat dinner, talking about this and that, when Won-seok remembers Se-hee’s advice about being honest. He brings up their marriage, and asks Ho-rang if she can wait five more years. Ho-rang is stunned, asking if he means to just date for twelve years.

Arriving at the theater, Ho-rang notices that he got the wrong play (mistakenly getting tickets to a knockoff), and he offers to fix the mistake and see the right one. Frustrated, Ho-rang tells him they can’t get tickets now so they should just watch this one.

During the play, the actors’ lines reflect Ho-rang and Won-seok’s situation about continuously missing one another, and they both recall their past discussions about marriage. Their eyes turn red, and Won-seok loosens his tie while Ho-rang turns away as tears fall down her face.

As soon as Ji-ho and Se-hee arrive home, they pet Cat together, and Se-hee unintentionally flusters Ji-ho when he tells her to shower first (which she hears as a prelude to sleeping together). He then unknowingly makes her swoon when he mentions how she looks the same with or without makeup, and Ji-ho playfully hits him in the arm before scurrying away to her room.

Ji-ho silently wonders how long she has to keep feeling fluttered and berates Se-hee for keeping their love platonic. As she takes off her earrings, Ji-ho remembers the lady from the cafe bathroom, and scoffs at herself for even being charmed by a woman.

Su-ji drives to her apartment with Sang-gu riding along, since he wants to see her home. He asks if she has any desire to get married, but she firmly says no. He, on the other hand, isn’t totally opposed to the idea, thinking that there’s some merit to sharing lives with someone.

Su-ji disagrees since she only sees marriage as tomb for her sexual life. He mentions how everyone else does it, but she doesn’t want to live like everyone else. She knows her place in life and doesn’t intend on ruining someone else’s life through marriage.

Ji-ho reads an article online and concludes that she’s experiencing sexual frustrations. Noticing the poetry book still by her bed, Ji-ho decides to return it, and steps into Se-hee’s room since he’s still showering. Placing the book back in the closet, Ji-ho apologizes for borrowing it without knowing that it contained memories.

Su-ji parks her car and when she steps outside, Sang-gu notices a text message from “my love” pop up on her phone. He’s bothered by the text, and asks Su-ji if she’s having any friends come over. She says no, thinking he’s angling for an invitation to her place, and tells him that she’s going to rest.

She waves goodbye, but as soon as the elevator doors close, Sang-gu bolts up the stairs, thinking of Su-ji’s conditions to dating: how they were to only meet outside of their homes, and not interfere in each other’s private lives. He reaches her floor as soon as she does, and hears Su-ji warmly greet someone.

Returning from his shower, Se-hee spots the poetry book in his closet and takes it out to read the Post-it note telling him not to love again.

Sang-gu watches Su-ji walk to her apartment, and it’s her mother who greets her outside. They talk about having dinner together, revealing a loving relationship, and Su-ji supports her mother as she limps. Sang-gu hangs his head in shame, realizing the truth.

As Se-hee narrates the poem from the book about how tremendous a thing it is for someone’s heart to come to you, Ho-rang washes away her tears in the bathroom, and finds Won-seok sitting alone in the empty theater. Avoiding eye contact, Won-seok tells Ho-rang that they should break up.

Flashing back to Se-hee’s past, he sits at the same cafe from his date today, and sitting across from him is the woman Ji-ho met in the bathroom, Jung-min. She’d slid him the poetry book, telling him that she already moved her things out, and stopped Se-hee from apologizing and explaining about his father’s phone call. She told him to not talk about his family to her, to not say “us,” and to never be happy.

In the present, Se-hee reads that note again and think how he had done as Jung-min said: “I wasn’t happy. As you told me, I didn’t love anyone.”

He walks out to the living room and sees Ji-ho laughing at the television, and thinks, “But today, briefly, I was happy. Briefly, I forgot about everything.”

Ji-ho brightens up to see him standing there and invites him to join her. With a smile, Se-hee joins her on the couch, but he watches her rather than the television and thinks, “I find this woman to be pretty. Her heart is cute.”

A bit later, as they linger in the hallway that separates their rooms, Ji-ho says goodnight. Se-hee continues his narration: “However, at the same time, I’m afraid of myself. I’m scared that I’ll hurt someone again.”

As Ji-ho closes her door, Se-hee grabs it with his hand, and steps inside her room. He thinks, “But now, I…”

He asks her, “Do you want to sleep with me tonight?” To himself, he adds, “I want to be happy too.”

 
COMMENTS

The show is spoiling me with two absolutely adorable endings this week! While we usually hear Ji-ho’s inner monologues, this time it was Se-hee’s turn to end the episode as we got to learn more about him and his feelings towards Ji-ho. It’s interesting that the more I watch the show, the less I think Se-hee has changed, and instead, it’s simply that we’re learning more about him. Ji-ho isn’t making him more caring or emotional, it’s just that she’s bringing out these emotions again after he spent years subduing them out of fear. He clearly recognizes his feelings, which makes me ponder his past actions and see them in a new light. It adds something special to those earlier scenes where Se-hee betrayed his feelings, like the one with Ji-ho’s mom or the Bok-nam incident. All this time, as the viewer, I thought Ji-ho was in a one-sided relationship where Se-hee would slowly open up his shell, but in fact, it may never have been one-sided at all.

Watching these two oddballs date each other while married and living under the same roof is a riot, and all the sweetness is probably going to give me cavities. They are so adorable, and it’s lovely how they, themselves, recognize how cute the other acts around them. Also, Ji-ho’s continued fantasies (which seem pretty tame, but maybe we’re only getting the TV-friendly versions) are precious, and I love how she just wants to do everything with him but is partially afraid of scaring him away since she thinks he doesn’t quite feel the same way she does. When she tried to hold his hand during their walk, it killed me. In addition, I adore Se-hee’s attempt at a date, and all the little moments that reveal just how much he loves Ji-ho like the way he smiles at her when she isn’t looking or how he peeks behind his shoulder to make sure she’s still there. However, it’s really the moments where Se-hee isn’t trying and just being his (sexy) honest self that really make Ji-ho’s heart flutter (and mine as well). They are just so perfect, and I want them to walk down a flower path for the rest of their lives!

I’m not usually a fan of first loves coming back because they usually cause unnecessary angst and misunderstandings between the main couple, but in this case, I’m actually interested to see how the creators will handle this seemingly clichéd situation and surprise me. At this point in the show, the creators have proven again and again that they know what they’re doing, with pieces of the story always having a purpose and never haphazardly thrown in without deliberation. Thus, I have no doubt that the introduction of Jung-min will be dealt with in a sensitive manner. I thought it was an interesting touch to have that intimate moment between Ji-ho and Jung-min, since it secretly made me think what the show would be like if they twisted this overused trope and created a super unconventional “second lead” vying for the female’s love. At the very least, I hope they don’t make her character mean even though her breakup scene with Se-hee was heart-wrenchingly ruthless. His teary eyes made me want to reach in and give him a hug.

The other big development this episode was between Ho-rang and Won-seok, who have finally decided to end things. This “end” seemed inevitable as they continued to let their emotions fester and you could see that it was suffocating both of them. I loved how their breakup was done without much histrionics and, overall, was quite a mellow affair. You could feel how tired both of them became after fighting to keep their relationship going for seven years, and I think it was actually this quiet weariness of everything that made their feelings even more relatable and heartbreaking. Though they might love each other, they realize that their ideas of the future misalign, and even if severing ties with someone you’ve given your heart to for so long is probably hard and scary, I think this breakup was necessary for both of them whether or not they come back together later on.

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And I love the fact that their characters stay the same in the core, so essentially it's about accepting your partner the way they are, and loving them more as you know them better (or learning that you are no longer compatible and let go, like Won-seok and Ho-rang..)

And now off to rewatch -again- and pretend that I don't have to work.. haha

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Thanks Ji-ho. This '80 baby who had her birthday last week feels extra old now.

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Thank you lovepark and all Beanies for your insightful comments and reviews. I find, from reading all these, my perception and understanding for this show and its characters widens so nicely, and it's so satisfactory!!! 😋 😃

When we consider that love means to be in full appreciation of the other, to be self-sacrificing in putting others first, to treat others with respect and consideration, it's obvious that Se Hee has always loved Ji Ho. When it took on the romantic aspect as well, is hard to pin-point, but I like how he is totally aware that they got together because they matched so well, and that realising he'd fallen for her, he did not beat himself up, but went for it.

I'm so happy that what I feared at the beginning of the show, has not come to pass and instead gone the opposite way. I thought at Ep 2, that because Se Hee was so adamant about their relationship not being romantic before they became house-mates, and how they confirmed they were not each other's ideal types at all, that Ji Ho would have to keep her feelings under wraps so as not to lose her home and husband. I thought that she (and I) feared that he'd run away or put up walls, once he found out that she had 'broken' the contract.

I would never have guessed that the show would take us this other way, where both Ji Ho and Se Hee are mature and self-aware, and not likely to remain naive about how the other party feels. The best part is that both check with each other about what they want and what each action means, and that they respond to their questions and actions honestly. That's the way to get what you want, people! 😂 😃

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Yep, to be trite: Honesty is always the best policy, and even better if it leads to a mutual understanding of the other, based on respect and admiration.

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Agree! Just like you said, better when it leads to more understanding but even when it leads to break up (because your honesty reveals that you two are not exactly two pods in a pea) it's still the best course..

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Was it in episode 2 where she walk to his house in the night. I feel like from that point on ward he wanted to protect her and provide her with safety and security.

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Agree with you. As I wrote before, his proposal was for her, not for himself. It fits his sensitive and considerate trait too.

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I thought at Ep 2, that because Se Hee was so adamant about their relationship not being romantic before they became house-mates, and how they confirmed they were not each other's ideal types at all, that Ji Ho would have to keep her feelings under wraps so as not to lose her home and husband. I thought that she (and I) feared that he'd run away or put up walls, once he found out that she had 'broken' the contract.

@growingbeautifully omg I really thought so too !!! I remember when he asked her at the bus station (when he offered the marriage contract) if she liked him, I rooolled my eyes, thinking, "Damn! now she has to bottle it up for weeks on end" and
NOPE!

it's fantastic that you pointed this out!

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On the other hand, even though now we know he knew the whole time, the thing is, she never told. She hasn't confessed she likes him at all. It is obvious but she hasn't said it. So, she broke the contract yes, but not on purpose. And she hasn't said out loud, so.. she is safe.
And then, the fact that gee algal recognizes he likes her, and he kissed her and he took her on a date and now he even asked her to sleep with him. Who broke what? In the open?? LOL

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@javinne, .... yes... and if they're smart they're just going to slide into 'romantic' married life kind of as a matter of course, without saying a word to break the contract. This, with probably some of the little arguments as well, but it will be so great to see if they can circumvent actual fights and showdowns, with their continued honesty. 😄

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Thanks @kethysk
Isn't it so great that when 'A' happens to give us bad expectations and fears (of plot and romance stagnation) , suddenly turns out to be something that moves the plot along and the romance as well???

💗 That's why I love this show!!! 💗

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Min Jung meets Ji Ho in the bar where Min Jung and Se hee broke up. There's an organic reason to be there and for Min Jung and Ji Ho to meet... it wasn't just coincidence. They had basically recreated the same sitting positions, so you could tell that was Se Hee and Min Jung' s booth. After the intimate moment between Min Jung and Ji Ho... Min Jung is sitting in Se Hee's seat, almost as if the writer is implying that Min Jung is in the same place as Se Hee (in life and relationships). And also I felt like, it was being suggested that Min Jung would be the 'second lead rival for Ji Ho, because the moment in the bathroom floored me (in a good way). I think the rivalry is going to be more Ji Ho's career than anything else... but both Min Jung and Ji Ho were together in a vulnerable moment for each.

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This was suppossed to start with: I like how tight the writing is on this show.

Min Jung being actively introduced was done organically instead of just *drumroll here comes the RIVAL*. It made sense for her to be there now... yes, it adds drama but it wasn't thrown in, especially when Se Hee doesn't see Ji Ho and Min Jung talking which would have happened in so many other dramas.

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Now this episode was all kinds of awesome. To be honest, I wasn't really all that in a hurry to watch this episode at first, even given how great the show had been up until ep 11. But this episode seemed to be an embarrassment of riches kinda deal in that there were so many good scenes.

While I love Ji-ho, most times, I adore Se-hee. As @lovepark pointed out, it awesome that we're getting to see all these sides of Se-hee. Who would have thought that he would be so experienced in the love department!? Not to mention his conversation with Won-seok about relationships. The man is astute and sagacious. Not only that, he is comfortable with himself to be able to step outside the traditional 'I am a man this is what I do stuff' and let Ji-ho be the strong assertive type or assist when need be. I'm seeing Lee Min-ki in a totally different light here, granted the only other work of his that I've seen is Dal-ja's Spring. Min-ki does nuance really well and he gives Se-hee that much needed depth for you to actually care about him. Don't even get me started on his being cute moments.

Lastly, while things suck for Ho-rang and Won-seok--they so remind me of Seol-hee and Joo-man from Fight My Way--I'm still loving Su-ji and Sang-gu. Su-ji might be falling much harder than she knows. I also love how business savvy she is.

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yes, seol-hee and joo-man. although, BTIOFL more realistic as the catalyst is within themselves rather than introducing some external (Joo man and that rich girl). but on the other hand, the purpose between two shows are different. FMY tried to empowering women (seol hee) by showing that sometime you need to find yourself more than just as a partner of somebody. you need to have your own achievement, found yourselves outside your relationship. in BTIOLF is simply about two persons, a couple who have different paths in the relationship. both the couples struggle seems similar, but the intentions are very much different.

love FMY, btw, one of the well written and finest drama of the year imo, along with 7days queen. recommended to watch.

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I'm so glad i picked up this drama. But it worries me that I might get a heart attack because of this drama lol! I mean too much feels too handle.

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I cannot believe no one has mentioned the total awesomeness of the ajusshis! Seriously, people? "Careful of war! If war breaks out, Seoul is the first target!" That scene was a wonder to behold. Love, love, LOVE the mom, too. You want that mom in your corner, no question.

I also would like to mention the music. It's just so different from the usual, isn't it? Jazzy, light, refreshing, not a echo of kpop. I like it very much!

I love how Su-Ji's is so caught up in her new business idea. She's just so smart and driven. I am rooting for her success in this area of her life just as much as I am rooting for her romance. And I am totally rooting for Sang-Wu.

As for the night of romance ahead for our main couple, forget it. Not going to happen. My prediction: Ho-Rang is on her way over, in desperate need of a friend.

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"My prediction: Ho-Rang is on her way over, in desperate need of a friend."

Oooooh. I'd actually love that. I thought she would go to Su-ji after the break-up, but I'd love for it to be Ji-ho instead.

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Hmm, but wouldn't it be awesome if the writers didn't go for the usual intimacy-interruptus trope and went a new way? Not telling them what to do...I've been so pleased with their work so far, that I feel secure in trusting them to know what's best.

But, please, more mom and dad! :)

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Oh, yeah, I forgot about the Be Careful About Everything scene! I laughed pretty hard for that one. That's a very weird drinking habit Jiho's dad has. I wonder if the writer made that up or if she knows someone that does that when they're drunk.

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The scene with Ji Ho's dad talking about war breaking out - I was totally nodding. Of course the enemies would attack the densely populated cities first. The countryside would be much safer.

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Yes, the music is awesome since early episodes. I keep replaying the OSTs these past few weeks. Like you said, it's unusual. For me, BTLIOF already won best music for drama of 2017.

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For me it also shows how he care and constantly think about his child who live far. It can be funny and silly but that warning came from his heart because he is in a drunken state.

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AHHHHHHHHHHH
BECAUSE THIS IS MY FIRST COMMENT.

too many thoughts. AHHH. I had wondered about how they would end the kiss scene (like if they would play it out or just cut/fade into new scene), and the show does not disappoint. Whoever’s idea it was to end it like that *clapclapclapclapclapclap* (Can’t wait for that OST to come out. MoonMoon’s Marriage has been on the repeat x 1000000000.)

Does the writer’s heart ever flutter when she sees the characters come alive on screen? xD The conversations/communication between Ji-ho and Se-hee makes me think of when Lee Hyori said “I think I married you to talk to you”, (to her husband on “Hyori's Home Stay”), simple but sweet.

Ho-rang and Won-seok remind me of the couple in the KBS Drama Special ‘Dancing the Waltz Alone”. Having dated for so long, fought so many times, they both look so suffocated. (On a different side of my brain: what if Ho-rang got pregnant from the usage of two condoms? O_O I mean the writer did name “Let’s use condo(m)s” as one of the episodes in Ho-gu’s love…)

Su-ji is definitely reaching her breaking point soon. .__.

ALSO. THE. SNAIL. PLUSHIE. I. NEED. IT. WHERE. IT. AT. ❤_❤

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+1 for snail plushie

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Thanks for the recap! This episode had me literally shrieking in laughter, from Se-hee attempting to talk to Ji-ho *while they’re still kissing* to Ji-ho’s reactions to everything post-kiss. And I could totally watch an entire show consisting only of Se-hee trying to navigate life with his in-laws.

On a more serious note, I liked that they addressed the fact that a kiss doesn’t equal happily ever after, and that reality still must be dealt with. I also really liked that Jung-min resurfacing (or in Se-hee’s case, just her memory) didn’t slow down our couple’s progress. Instead, Se-hee remembered and still was hurting, but actively chose happiness instead of letting the past weigh him down. I looooved that, cause I am still very iffy about Jung-min coming back. Here’s to hoping they subvert that trope in some way! I trust this show a lot more than some, though, so I’m optimistic.

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ROFLMAO over Se-hee's futile attempts to extricate himself from Ji-ho's liplock. Just thinking about his expressions cracks me up. ;-)

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I was SOOOO not looking forward to the return of Jung Min until I realized that Sehee needs closure that he'll never get on his own. I'd almost guarantee that she's not being brought back as an obstacle (though she may serve as one for a bit), but instead as the salve for the piece of his heart that is still in tatters.

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OH MY GOD this show is my crack! I drop other drama I watched because I just want to rewatch this in my spare time ahahaha..

There's so many things going on in my mind about this ep. But first and foremost, I really adore the writer. As a psychologist, I find the character to be very well written, with subtle information written here and there that make us able to place the pices of puzzle together and understand each of them..

As much as I love the kiss scene in ep 11, I love the dialogs in this ep even more.. We know now how important a house is for Ji-ho, she even like snails because it carries his home with him so he never be homeless. We know now how significant the "uri" word is for Se-hee because it reminds him of his past, so the way he said lets go to "our home" to Ji-ho feels allllll the way more significant. The word also very important for Ji-ho who wants to belong somewhere. I think the title "Because This Life is OUR First" is far more meaningful than the "official" title that is "Because This is My First Life". The "our" word captures the essence of this show so well :)

I also love love love Se-hee's conversation with Won-seok. It's the exact thing Won-seok needs to hear and reflect my view on marriage. I totally agree that we should be able to communicate honestly with our spouse. As someone who is married, I can say that marriage is not a walk in the park and bad communication will make things so much worse. I've been against Ho-rang and Won-seok's marriage but it still broke my heart when Won-seok asked Ho-rang to break up. My heart bleed for them but I think it's necessary for the to grow :)

That conversation also showed how much care Se-hee has for Ji-ho. When he talked to Sang-gu about the reason he marry Ji-Jo, his reason is not himself. He wanted to give Ji-ho the room she needs. And in his conversation with Won-seok he said that "we" are comfortable with each other. So for Se-hee, their marriage is about Ji-ho and them, more than about himself. I'm sorry if I can't make myself understood here, my heart burst so much I seem to be unable to form coherent sentences :)))))

My heart skipped a beat watching the preview, knowing that Ji-ho will interact more with Jung Min. But I've learned that I can fully trust the writer, so be it.. I'll just enjoy the ride heheh..

Whew what a lengthy comment this is.. Sorry, can't contain my excitement ;p And I'm especially excited about that ending scene <3 <3 <3 Due to the different grammatical structure, I find listening to "Oneul.. gat-i.. jaljayo?" makes my heart beat faster than reading the translation. Can't wait to see how it goes in ep 13!

Lastly, I hope the sound effect staff gets an award! He/She is brilliant!!

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I didn't notice his use of "we" until you said that. It is even more interesting because in the same conversation, Se hee commented on Won Soek's excessive use of "I". It just shows how different their relationships are.

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Can we just give the sound designer(s?) a round of applause, a raise, and an award? The squeaky sound effect matching the change on Se-hee’s face when Ji-ho popped a balloon with her first dart had me in stitches. I replayed that clip so many times, that if it was a VHS, the tape would have broken.

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Can we get Sound/OST into the End of Year Beanie awards.

For too long this has been a glaring hole in the pantheon of Beanie recognition.

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I like that idea! The soundtrack can make or break a drama in my mind! The use of jazz in this drama adds depth in such a subtle way.

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I hope TVN will hold another award ceremony again cause I want to see BTIMFL get all the awards and ofc seeing LMK, JSM, and other actors reunite again :')

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totally agree!

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What a great idea! Awards all round for the production team of this show and with a special award category for the sound effects and OSTs. 😄

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This show made me set-up a beannie account just so I can join in the comments and say-

YES! That's how I feel about the show too! :)

Dramas generally make you partially turn of your brain but with this one I feel like I'm getting a counseling session! All those insightful and relatable lines. Did we just stumble on a really good subber? Did Korean Dramas always make this much sense but were just poorly translated?! Either way, by far, all-time favorite.

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Me too!! after just being a reader here, i decided to actively participate in the spazzing and fangirling with the community that loves this show. hehe

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Omg, me too!!! I just had so many feelings about this show that I have to make an account to fangirl and hopefully process what this show has done to me.

Actually I havent seen a kdrama with couples that have amazing conversations that speaks to you and makes you contemplate life! It's such a blessing to have watched this while it is airing!

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Welcome new beanies!!!!!
yay for mutual fangirling!

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Or fanboying, if that’s the case!

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Or that yes... fan-people-ing.

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welcome, @cherry777 !
isn't it greeeeeaaaat to catch the comment section "live" with an ongoing AWESOME show!??!

#BeanieCommunity

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Thanks for your recap and comments, @lovepark!

Two great episodes back to back. At last we got a peek at Se-hee's "Everything." From the little bit we saw of their parting at the cafe, his dad must have done something truly egregious. Given the acrimony of Jung-min's anti-benediction, I now understand Se-hee's fear and loathing of possibly hurting another lover. It's a testimonial to Ji-ho's inspiring partnership that he made that cliffhanger proposal so quickly after their first "real" smooches down in Namhae.

ROFLMAO at Se-hee's non-existent dart-throwing skills. I'll give him a pass and chalk it up to his throwing arm being wiped out from kimchijang. ;-)

And now we know why Su-ji has all those clauses in her dating contract. Her secret is not what I expected. I have mixed feelings about Sang-gu's reconnaissance because it is an invasion of her privacy. Perhaps she's been burned in the past by boyfriends who took issue with her family situation. I hate to say "Curiosity killed the cat," but Sang-gu may be getting his walking papers for breach of contract.

As for Ho-rang and Won-seok, the shoe has finally dropped, and I have to say it is all for the best. One of the most painful experiences I have had in a relationship was the realization that we were on different enough wavelengths that the long-term prospects were not good. I ended up being the one to finally pull the plug after five years. I'd tried to end things years earlier, but I couldn't stand to see a kind and decent grown man cry. Putting it off only prolonged the agony for both of us.

Don McLean: "Oh My What a Shame"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuTDTne54hg

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In my opinion, Se-hee wanted to look good in front of Ji-ho/win the snail so badly that he got nervous, and ended up not being as good at darts as he hoped. From the puzzle cube, I got the impression that he is pretty good at games, or at least has confidence in his own skills, so nervousness makes more sense to me.

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Rubik's cube is a mind game, while darts would be a hand-eye coordination game. He's probably just not good at those kinds of games/sports.

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True, but it left the impression he was confident in himself.

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In a way, he's very good. It's really hard to miss ALL those balloons. He got 100% in that.

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LOL. Very true!

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Because of Se Hee, I was inspired to buy a Rubik's cube.. and now I'm mastering how to solve it.. hahahaha.. this show's effective use of PPL.. 😂

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"It's a testimonial to Ji-ho's inspiring partnership that he made that cliffhanger proposal so quickly after their first "real" smooches down in Namhae." >> yass!

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My only worry is that SH promised mum not to get in the way of her future and career, I think he will allow himself to be hurt and put his feelings last if the friendship between JH and Jung- min means she finds a good job and returns to writing.

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On the other hand, if he gets her pregnant... I don´t know how that could help her career??? UPppss!!! LOL!!!!!

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Maybe a baby won't help her career, but he'll do everything he can so that it doesn't end it. They'll split diaper duty and household tasks 50/50 and she'll write while the kid naps or something.

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" Ji-ho isn’t making him more caring or emotional, it’s just that she’s bringing out these emotions again after he spent years subduing them out of fear. He clearly recognizes his feelings, which makes me ponder his past actions and see them in a new light. It adds something special to those earlier scenes where Se-hee betrayed his feelings, like the one with Ji-ho’s mom or the Bok-nam incident. All this time, as the viewer, I thought Ji-ho was in a one-sided relationship where Se-hee would slowly open up his shell, but in fact, it may never have been one-sided at all."

this is making my day....thank you so much for the recap!

and always, the comments....daebak as always..

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On the three Relationships:

Soo Ji and CEO Ma's relationship is so cute. I wonder if they're going to change each other's belief with marriage and dating.

Ji Ho ans See He: nothing but heart eyes here. I just love their relationship especially how they communicate with each other. Goals.

Won Seok and Ho Rang's relationship is so heartbreaking to see. They set out in a relationship with the same goal, then fell apart along the way. i remember my cousin who was in a very long term relationship with her ex (11 years) and even have plans on getting married and buying a house together. and their falling apart was painful, not only to the both of them but both of the families and friends that witnessed their relationship.

and i'll echo everyone's sentiment here: I CANT WAIT FOR MONDAY!!

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Wow! What an episode!!

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I ❤ SeHee!

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I continue to like this drama, even though I feel it is slow. Here is how I feel about the couples, so far:
1. Sae Hee and Ji Ho: cute and sweet couple, I hope that they will become more relaxed around each other, because even when he asked her if she wanted to sleep with him I still felt like the way they talk to each other is slow/stiff and not comfortable. I hope they open up to each other soon.

2. Won Suk and Ho Rang: At first I used to feel sorry for both of them, but now I only feel sorry for Ho Rang. I mean after she found out that WS was not putting in his fair share into their savings account as they had both agreed, I felt really pissed off at WS. How long has he been leading her on? Then he is the one to break up with her?! I hope that HR will forget about him. I hope she ends up with Bok Nam. She deserves a good man who will appreciate her and treat her right.

3. Suji and San Gu: This couple seems to be the most carefree and the funniest with their weird dating contract, etc lol. But there is more underneath, that scene with Suji and her crippled mother (is that her mother?) was very sad.

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The pace is perfect for me. One of my complain of so many dramas is the instant love of the main couple, make it unbelievable. Here, the romance progressed slowly, yet steady. Btw, SH and JH couple is the most honest and the most open of the three. Shy yes, but not uncomfortable.

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Agree. And although formal, they communicate perfectly wether they like something or not, whether they felt uncomfortable or not, whether they were hurt or not. And that is what it makes me believe it will be ok, even with ex coming...
There are rare cases in the real life of people like them, but i know there are... And usually, those are the relationships that last longer.

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@lovepark is also fangirling throughout the episode recaps.

same, same. i never thought i'd be giggling like a stupid lovestruck teenager for a whole episode.

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Obviously she's not alone. Even me read lovepark as lovespark, heheh..

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I can't remember when last I giggled this much .... Am not a very emotional person , so I usually watch dramas to gEt myself to feel more and this drama did what many others haven't done in a while ...

This has to be one of my best dramas ( says the girl who only started kdramas this year , only watches live ones and has dropped more than half of them , am sorry I can only concentrate for so long and it has to be a very very good reason )

Se hee and ji ho own my heart again was shocked that a kdrama had a kissing scene that made me blush ... That scene was pure gold , I loved it and se hee guide manual needs to be in the market , demonstrator included ...

Am so pleasantly surprise that it feels so natural that this is how se hee should act , the taking her out on the date , the gift and how matter of fact he STILL is ... I don't feel as if its another person or that he is OOC ...

The hand holding , the game and how se hee nodded in approval at ji ho as he clapped when she hit the balloon Lol ... I love that scene so much ...

Saying this as a person , who just shrugged at the fault in our stars , felt bad in my sisters keeper and was all " okay so am the only one who didn't cry " for go back couple , I almost teared up with ho rang at the play trust me almost tearing up is A LOT in my standard ... Their relationship gives me such a dreadful feeling , mainly because while I feel for both couples , I know someone in ho rangs shoes , she pushed him to go to school supported him through school ( she was the only one working , she never really believed in herself so , instead decided that the "intelligent" one should go to school) and then eight years later in his final projects and presentation they are at a stage where loving each other isn't enough ...

Watching ho rang was like watching that person and for once I understood ...these are so many years of your life gone into doing something think of "US" but then in one day it can all go , and there's nothing you can do , its not just the love but the investments... Even if WS didn't see it but , staying together for those many years should have been something else to land on , even if he didn't want to ge married in future , what was his plan B apart from the app that was 7YEARS in progress ...

And the gorgeous lady , it was love at first sight for me ... Am not sure about anyone else but she was beautiful and mesmerising ( I blame the cinematography ) , I couldn't blame ji ho for thinking she (JH) was a pervert the lady had one of those auras that match with the statement " I want to be so hot I make people question their sexuality " because through out that bathroom scene I was all "se hee WHO?? :s ". She just joined the list of people I would be shallow enough to marry on the dot if they asked. Screw my homophobic country ( funny enough everyone else in my live ). ... What's her name ?? I haven't watched enough to think I might have seen her...

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The actress is Lee Chung-ah! She was the lead in Flower Boy Ramyun Shop, one of this writer's previous works.

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Cont>>>before, but because of my amazing ability --of being unable to match a face to a name or a face in one drama to that of another drama-- I have seen her before ...

Again on HR and WS

This time am more on HOUR side because she is the biggest loser at the end of this relationship ...

WS , stopped an app that was a failure , started a job he doesn't seem to hate and is working on what he went to school for , he gets the chance to pull out of this relationship before it gets worse , giving up after seven years to me wasn't the biggest mistake ever as he gets to learn from SG now , and has a better chance at winning next time ... Giving up the app was for both their sake not just HR ....

HR has supported him for 7yrs , to me that savings account meant some thing even if not marriage and WS had given up long ago and said nothing , her hopes get dashed after thinking she was getting married , she can't go back in time to regain her 7yrs while WS gets to stop the marriage before it happens ...

Am sorry for ranting about the same thing its just since the bank account , it occured to me that WS had given up on planning for the future and didn't inform HR who also has a lot of faults...

I understand suji soo much ... Like her I always start with high hopes but by brunch I start complaining about how uncomfortable bars are and by mid day I just want it gone ...

My friends always complain but am happy am not the only one uncomfortable with bras ... I wish I could get a custom made one too ... :(

1st please forgive the errors

2nd I haven't never written more than a few lines to thank the writer, in the few times I comment here so forgive the essay am writing this drama calls for it ...

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ha! the time she appears my reaction is " waaa, 완전 카리스마!!!"(wanjeon charisma)

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It's hard to believe we only have 2 more weeks left of this drama. That said, I'm all for anything that gets Ji-Ho back to writing. I don't want her to give up on dream. So, even if that means introducing Se Hee's ex-wife as motivation, I'm with that. Mainly, because I feel pretty confident, that unless something seriously major happens, Ji-Ho will dig her heels in more to save her relationship with Se-Hee. Along with that, I can tell the writer is beginning to conclude the series by how the characters are all experiencing various revelations.

Is it wrong for me to be this happy that Won Seok and Ho-Rang broke up? I wanted them to break up so bad because I want them to find people that want what they want. (No, Bo-Mi is off limits.) Neither of them are wrong and both deserve to get what they want. But neither should have to place their life on hold in hopes that the other will eventually reach the same place.

I commend the director for pairing every scene with WS/HR alongside a scene with JH/SH. The juxtaposition between a budding relationship and an diminishing relationship was stark and telling. I also loved all the details. In the last scene, the back of Se-Hee's shirt said, "Just Alone" but he's asking Ji-Ho to sleep together. There's so many little small details that give huge impact to the story in this show.

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ah yes i also noticed se-hee's shirt. love the details of the show!

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why is little fiesty Bo-Mi off-limits? LOL

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@kethysk
I don't want Bo-Mi to be the rebound or just another obstacle. She deserves better than that.

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Given that it took 11 episodes to work up to that kiss, Se Hee's offer at the end of this episode was such a surprise! They moved forward at warp speed! After that offer, I couldn't help wondering if the last episode is going to be, "Because This Is Our First Baby...."

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i would love to see that happened!!!

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I have to mention that LOL at one of the internet articles Ji Ho was reading about how not having sex is putting your health in danger!

And I appreciate how thoughtful Se Hee was about not asking someone to change seats just because you want to sit next to each other. I also feel burdened when asked to switch . Like see each other at home! Can't you bear a few hours apart?! or you should have booked seats next to each other!

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lol oh come on @asianromance ! you wouldn't switch seats?
I confess that when I'm asked, I might internally roll my eyes a little, but hey, I understand.
Also, I checked google map and it's a 3 - 4hr bus ride from Namhae to Seoul... yeah, SWITCHING SEATS!

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Normally I wouldn't ask to switch but when you put it this way, I'm also switching seats.

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I would switch seats, but I would be a little irritated about it. For buses, I prefer window seats so I can lean against the window (and not too close to the bathroom in the back), so i would be pretty irritated to switch with someone who had an aisle seat. If the switcher-asker were to arrange a switch where I can get a window seat in a part of the bus I like, I would be happy.

I'm usually not territorial, but I get really territorial on buses.

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well, i am in love. so, yeah i am switching my seat. lol.

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What I got from this episode and the last is that Won seok is the selfish one.Let's forget the fact that Hong rang has been stylishly pressuring him to propose and got married and she is bad at communicating her wants but it takes two tango.Why didn't won seok also make his intentions know that he is not going to get married until he becomes a CEO?Bt he decided to keep mute and say nothing,I don't believe won seok does not know abt hong rang's dreams but he just decided to act naive.His saying that "I want to make Hong rang happy " blah blah is just like him trying to justify his shortcomings.
They promised to contribute money 2gether,he stopped and still did not tell her,why? Even though he loves Hong rang, I don't think he is committed enough cos if he is, he would
have done everything possible to give her what she wnts and not make her waste 7 good years of her life. This is how guys nowadays waste women's time, telling them to wait for them till they achieve their drms bt I blve if one's drm is not working out, you can always go for another.I am not saying Hong rang too is not at fault but we are nt giving her enough credit,all we do is blame her for stylishly pressuring won seok to forgo his drm.
I don't even knw if I am making sense bt I am jst so sad for Hong rang cos I hve some friends dt this happened too, after waiting for yrs for the guy to find his footing,they still get left behind,wished she brkup is from her tho. Love our cat couple♥♥♥Espcially on the date.

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Exactly, guys can be so manipulating sometimes! I dont hate Won Seok but he seriously took a good chunk of Ho Rongs life. Im pretty sure hell regret it tho.

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I am kinda surprised by many comments regarding HR/WS relationship especially one's that say that WS deliberately misled HR.

The reality of professional life in S Korea for today's youth versus their parents is starkly different. In the 80's to early 90's, guys (yeah, males) especially graduates of prestigious universities were nearly guaranteed a job at the big chaebols. These were jobs for life essentially - once you got in, you had pretty good financial security for life. HR/WS were brought up by parents who lived in that time.

Today, by contrast, many young people struggle with part time jobs, the gig economy and nearly no job/financial security. They could be struggling through well into their early 30's. This is what HR/WS are experiencing.

Unfortunately HR's expectations appear to be built more on her parent's experience than the reality of society today. The whole bankbook scene brings home that point to her finally. Until that point, I don't think she truly understood how much WS had been struggling to meet her, self declared and mostly undiscussed, expectations.

She stopped arguing and looks passive in the face of WS's "lets break up" because she is feeling GUILT. (I am not saying she should feel that way, but that is my guess)

I am not giving WS a free pass on this either. He pursued a riskier path (not accepting SG's job offer much earlier) without explaining the possible (financial) consequences to HR. He was a bit naive but the biggest "sin" was not sharing his thought with his life partner.

I believe both HR and WS are sincere with each other and want to be life partners. They have to adjust their expectations to their combined reality. Neither is solely nor predominantly responsible for their bad state right now. If they break up, to me, it will be for the WRONG reasons.

People do grow apart, have different beliefs, have fundamentally different life goals, find things about each other that they cannot tolerate. That's life. And if that is the situation, breaking up is the right thing.

In the case of HR/WS, this doesn't appear to be true. They're letting the situational crisis blind them to their strong fundamental compatibility.

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Ah but if you date a broke developer for 7 years, I don't think your partner is at fault for anything. Everyone knows he's broke and is still trying to work on his dream, Ho Rang is the one who decided to stick with him. What I don't get is that how come she didn't realise their financial situation earlier? How much does she think WS makes? Had she done that, she could be a little bit more realistic about her hopes.

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I tried to find out whether Lee Min Ki is just talk like Se-Hee or not. turns out, His character on movie "very ordinary couple" is 180 degree from Se Hee and I like Se-Hee more even thou he's a lil bit weird and nerd.
and I really love how the resolution of each episode turns out. like on every episode we can learn new sides of things. and I like the philosophies the show brings, like the moment they saw the beach connected to how people's every new relationship is different from the last. "just because we live yesterday doesn't mean we know more about today".

kinda curious on Se Hee last realtionship and the cause of their mess breakup

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and yes!! i love how in this one, we got to know the aftermath of kiss scene and not just cut to other scenes like other drama. like the awkwardness plus how ji ho can'r hear the phone ringing and Se Hee who can't just push Ji Ho while still kissing.
and just like Ji Ho, I can not stop thinking about the kiss. what the hell Lee Min Ki did that I turn out like this.

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yes, i found him for the first time in "very ordinary couple" and i thought he's very natural in acting. it's bittersweet movie about relationship, btw. recommended to watch.

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This episode really was climax for Won Seok and Ho Rang's relationship. Their break- up was indeed heartbreaking to watch because you could see they both still loved each other but had to part because both had different plans for the future. You could really feel the strain in their relationship when Ho Rong was crying in the washroom instead of being her usual self and arguing with Won Seok. They were so cute together visually but they had a serious lack of communication. I mean if it had always been Ho Rong’s desire to get married why hadn’t she spoken to Won Seok about it from the beginning. Why did she have to suddenly, after seven years, drop this on him... like its been seven years what have these two been doing if not discussing and planning their future? Also am I the only one wondering why planning a wedding is so difficult for them when Ji Ho and See Hee were able to plan one in less then a month’s time?

On a brighter note, See Here was so adorably cute on his date with Ji Ho, you could really see how he was opening up to her and omg it was hilarious how he kept missing in popping the balloons but he kept going on just to win that snail. Ji Ho’s character is so relatable like her googling her symptoms LOL. Soo Ji taking care of her mom warmed my heart but it still doesn’t explain the condom that fell from her purse the first time she met Sang-gu? What have you been up-to girl? Lol

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Ho Rang & Won Seok relationship is one of my favorite story in this drama. It feels so real watching them arguing about marriage. I can definitely relate to their situation since many of my friends in my age are going through this situation as well. Sometimes love is not the only deciding factor that lead us to marriage. The problem with Ho Rang is that she's never being outspoken to Won Seok about what she wants, about her desire to get married, instead she's just giving him clues that he doesn't understand either. The incident with the pink sofa really show us how desperate Won Seok to try understand his girlfriend. Girls should really start to communicate well with their man and be real instead of just hoping the man would understand the clues if they want the relationship keeps going.

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This show is just so perfect! The way it deals with little to bigger problems surrounding the couples got me hooked up and now obsessed! I was busy with WYWS until my friend recommended this drama to me and I totally LOVE this show more! Can't wait for the next episode with the EX girlfriend/wife appearance only to see how Sae-hee's reaction would be!

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"It’s interesting that the more I watch the show, the less I think Se-hee has changed, and instead, it’s simply that we’re learning more about him."

I was actually feeling frustrated (not really but kind of) that when we feel like Se Hee is getting there, he just walks ten steps behind. That he's either just oblivious or set in his ways and algorithms, putting up walls and not letting their relationship go to the next step.

But I've been rewatching some episodes like an addict (hahaha. I just can't help it), and it felt like seeing Se Hee in a different light. From the looks of it, I think he cared for Ji Ho for a while now - him agreeing to the marriage in the first place, his thoughtful words during and after the wedding, him being worried about Ji Ho during the Bok Nam incident. After these two sets of episodes though, we find that he was just protecting himself and Ji Ho, and he's really been taking strides - we just didn't know it because we've been following Ji Ho all this time.

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After some thinking and rewatching the preview for episode 13 I think I have an Idea what might have occurred between SH and JM. I think what happened is that both did live together without being married and this is what the father didn't agree with. As SH pointed out before, the family's reputation is very important to his father. However JM being a well educated and career a career oriented woman, was maybe scared of marriage. There is a reference in the preview to Doris Lessing’s story “To room nineteen.”the story is about marriage the pressures it puts on women and their role in the household and eventual loss of identity and purpose beyond the institution. I think this book reflects JM's thoughts and feelings on marriage. And I think SH's parents pressure especially the dad's was too much for her to handle. I think that's why she also said to JH in the preview "I almost did this thing called marriage". At that time she just wasn't ready for mariage, I mean the institution called marriage she loved him dearly but the constant pressure I guess was too much.

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wow, great observation and theory! it makes sense because jung min exudes the persona of a very driven and career oriented person.

oh and she's beautiful, no wonder even ji-ho was charmed..

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Yeah and I think is after breaking up, he went back to his parent's house. However he probably resented his father in a kind of way for breaking up his relationship. Thus his father probably was like if you can't understand that I did it for your own good the get out of my house!

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This is a really good theory. It’s also mad me realise this show does a lot in depicting women and their work, the difficulty of society views and managing family. It’s not just Korea experiencing this, but a universal issue every woman will experience in their life.

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Oh my, here I go again. 😍... Sqeeeeeling so much about how realistic this show is. Jiho wanting more, she didn't even listen to the phone, ok...who would???
It is so real! In other dramas after the kiss, the couple shy away because they are afraid or whatever, but here: if you are with the person you like and he kisses you, hello, you don't want to end it so soon, let alone pretend that it didn't happen. SH and JH are so good actors, they kissed for real and made it look so beautiful!!!

I must confess this is the first time I ship so much a couple and agree on them having sex, because hello... they are married!!! No committing any sin if they decide to, you know, be together... I am sure she will say yes. Of course!!! And I am actually very happy for them.
Now I also have to say, the end of this episode took me by surprise.
Not that I don't understand, but that... It was kind of soon... yet, they are mature and it will be ok.
And i liked the date. I got very sad with HR and SW. And even SJ coming home to her mama made me cry inside. I have always though she is a little bit less moral, smoking and all that, but she has a person to call "my love", a mother... That is beautiful.

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I loved every moment in this episode. I'm very grateful to the writer for moving me like this and making me think about all the complex matters in relationships.

Sehee and Jiho: Like many others have mentioned, I was really happy to hear Sehee's perspective on his burgeoning relationship with Jiho. The insights to his first love helped us understand his past actions at a deeper level, that he is a lot more emotionally intelligent than he appears to be. This reminds me of the quote: "Things aren't always what they seem." In life, we often unconsciously make snap judgements about people based on our impressions, life experiences, stereotypes and so forth; just like how we are analyzing and evaluating every character in this drama in our comments. Making judgements is very humane and even necessary for our growth, however, we always have to keep in mind that things aren't always the way they seem. We could very well be totally wrong. People often have reasons behind their actions, and because we don't know their story, we should not judge them lightly. Everyone's POV is important. To truly understand a person, we need to understand their inner thoughts and why they do the things they do. Tying back to the drama again, I feel that it was important to hear Sehee's monologue to help us connect with Sehee as viewers, and this was perfectly timed to match his step towards Jiho's heart. Applause to the writer.

Horang and Wonseok: While I've never experienced anything like their relationship, I felt a deep sadness for their inevitable breakup. Some commenters talked about how they're not meant to be and I initially was nodding in agreement. But on second thoughts, I find myself wondering: who knows if they are meant to be or not? It's true that they've both lost their way and are on very different paths, and that the breakup was necessary. But who knows if they're meant to be. Maybe they will eventually find their way back in each other's arms, maybe they will eventually find themselves contented in different places. Who knows? Either way, I'm rooting for them as individuals (well actually I root for everyone), and I hope to witness them fulfilling their dreams at the end of this drama.

Suji and Mr. Ma: I was surprised when Sehee talked about how he found Suji and Mr. Ma incompatible, because I thought the couple was on common ground; both are from business backgrounds and could understand each other with regards to their work. I thought that scene was played more for comedic effect. In this episode, I find out Sehee was right all along. Sang-goo is romantic, soft-hearted, sweet and understanding. In this relationship, he prioritizes romance over sex, as seen by his attempts to go on normal dates with Suji. But Suji has quite the opposite ideas of him about relationships and seems to be using sex as an outlet to escape her troubles in life. We don't know Suji's full story, but we can tell that sex is important to her even...

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I just love this drama. I am trying to convince everyone around me to watch this. I sure hope I did not over hype them though lmao I just kept saying good things about this drama, but I always find myself praising Lee Min-ki's eyes HAHAHAHAHA fml they draw me in

ahhhhhh this drama is so perfect, and I trust this writer so much to the point wherein I am willing to get my heart broken!!!!

(CAN WE PLS TALK ABOUT HIS EYES I AM F A L L I N G)

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If this show continues like this, It will dethrone Goblin as my favorite drama of all time.
This week's episodes were amazing. From the kiss to the poem to HR and WS breakup to SJ confronting her boss and colleagues, it was perfection.
P. S. Thirsty Jiho is hilarious.
P. P. S. Am I the only one who was also charmed by Jungmin?
I LOVE THIS DRAMA SO MUCH!

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thought im the only one, hahahaha,,,
she's really charming!

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I've already dethroned Worlds Within and bring this BTIOFL on the first spot.

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I have been waiting for this recap and all the following comments, and as usual it's lovely to see so much insight and feels all around! I probably can't add much insight after all that's been discussed, but I can't help mulling over some scenes of this week episodes.
First of all, I loved how Jiho is portraited as a woman having all these sexual desires (it's not new in the show, but now even Jiho is affected by hormones! hah) and I feel it makes sense to show we are all different, like Suji has an active sexual life and Horang too (one with many partners in the past years, the other with Wonseok), and now it's finally Jiho's turn. I think it can happen to not have such desires before you find a person you like, and people on the net would call that demisexuality, but aside from the sexuality spectrum, i just Loved to see her so bothered!! She is without experience, but she's still a woman and women have sexual desires too.
I loved everything related to bothered Jiho to the point I ended up imagining her sexual awakening with Sehee (LOL) mostly because it would be so much fun to see a scene with Jiho going from abashed to finding out the pleasures of sex, from being embarrassed to ask for it to demanding some more (without going into detail, just imagine a comical skit of Sehee being tired out by his newlywed life ... "Jiho-ssi is... unstoppable", or another canon possibility would be Sehee with a straight face starting to strip just to solve Jiho-ssi's "problem".. lmao that would be fun).
I hope they'll explore her desire maybe at the end of the drama, since it's her first life after all... haha
Comical skits aside, my favourite thing was (the date)... seeing Suji finding a good idea for business! Finding her passion again! She's not fully aware of it, I think, but Jiho - as observant as she is - pointed out how she was happy talking about her idea, and I can't wait to see her pick that route, even if it looks difficult with her personal life. But still, she was really Shining! It's so beautiful to see people being so passionated about it, and for a reason or another (things going awry at work, or her deciding to be a CEO for good), I'm sure she will follow that path one day.
Another thing I liked, even if it hurt, was the fact there were two different dates going on in this episode. THe first date for someone just starting a relationship based on communication and a peculiar beginning, and then the last date of a tired old couple... the more I think about it, the more I think the writer is a genius haha they wrote both dates so differently, even when they were happening at the same time, because the two couples are at the two ends of a spectrum. It was so hard to see Horang and Wonseok strolling around, feeling the doom behind them, and I think the theatre show was the last string they needed - the built up was there in the past episodes, and I loved how Sehee himself noticed (starting from language) how Wonseok...

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and I loved how Sehee himself noticed (starting from language) how Wonseok was always focusing on his own desires, as well as I liked how Wonseok said "now we don't fight anymore". Both are signs of something impossible to save, even if he and Horang try to mantain the appearance of a normal couple... they're tired even without arguing, and there is no need to talk when he comes to the conclusion of breaking up. It's all been there, anyways.

One last more thing that's more related to the whole series than just this episode is how similar Sehee and Jiho are in fighting all their way when they really care for something. I think it's been obvious all along, Jiho fought for her integrity when she wrote her first drama, when she was almost raped etc, as well as Sehee fought to have his own freedom, his own "home" etc to the point of looking weird to people who don't know him well ... they are keepers, when they truly care, they'll take the extra mile.
This whole date thing is way more normal to what they had, but it's also a beginning for their life as a couple, and I can't stress enough how different Sehee is from episode one. Like the recap says, it's not that he's different, it's that we see him for what he is - true, but also he has now changed his algorithm entirely, for Jiho and Jiho only. But also, I think he had changed it a long time ago, because he's always been extra considerate and kind to her since day1... yet now that his feelings are out in the open and jiho's too, he's just showing how passionate he can be, without restrains... I feel I can relate to both characters so much, being similar to them I need time to open up etc, but once you're my friend or special person, I am devoted 100% - and so are they.
He's literally taking the extra step from going to be kind to her quietly to finally being with her - like he says in the end, the whole difference of how he acts is going from being scared of hurting her to wanting to be happy. And then he's proactive like never before, even if he had all of that inside him, and as he opens up we can finally see how loving he can be.
So basically kudos because even if we could catch glimpses of his love in many actions in the past episodes, I am so so glad to see him pursuing his happiness, and all the same Jiho finally having the love of her life!!

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Ji Ho not having sexual experience till she was 30 does not mean she never had sexual desires, it is just that she never had a person she loved and trusted enough to have those intimate moments with, imo.

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I would agree on this in theory, but it was also stated how it was her first time having such desire... Whether she did or not, it's for sure the first time she can go from fantasy to reality so i hope the drama will explore it.. But that's my own wish, it could also just be glossed on (although. The writer never put stuff and forgets about it, but always gets back to it, so there is a tiny hope)

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Agree. She had a "crush" (more or less) in the &%$§" who tried to rape her, but since there was nothing and he flirted but never showed real interest, and there was never a kiss, then she only could have had fantasy, but not real desire. With See he, even when she already knew she liked him, it was after they kissed (a real kiss) that she started to feel desire. Makes total sense. Because having the man you like kissing you and holding you tight tells your body yes, this is possible, and then you have the expectation. You know it could perfectly happen, and that is why now you want it...
Again, even in this, the show is very realistic, and I love it!!!

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I am a bit disappointed that this drama still used first love as the reason for Se Hee being so reserved, but seems he always was kinda robotic, but he was never a cold person. Also, first love is so georgous, even made my heart flutter a bit.
Also, when in the morning Ji Ho left after beaing cold and Se Hee like " I think she is angry with me" to Kitty, wow, idk it made my heart flutter, I was happy he actually understood her feelings, but turns out he understood them all along. Se Hee looks good with his new haircut.

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Okay.. I've been contemplating on writing this. As much as I love everything se hee & ji ho, this episode broke my heart so bad because of HR & WS. I was exactly in that position a few years ago with my now husband. We've know each other for 20 years, since middle school. He has the biggest crush on me, and was constantly asking for a date, even though we were only 14 years old back then. We finally started dating 12 years ago, and we got married after 8 years of an on-off relationship.

Going on our 4th year of marriage (and a total of 12 years in relationship), we are happy now, but we struggled the exact same struggle as HR & WS. The money problem, the family problem, the fighting problem, etc. We are still struggling now, especially with our dream of having a baby. I found their feelings equally mirrored mine. I wanted to be married for the sake of being married. My wants, my dreams. I wasn't well aware enough of his struggle, he wasn't with mine. But then I can relate so much when WS said that they avoid fighting now because they're afraid of the outcome. People would say, how can you not know him enough after being in a relationship so long? Just watch how HR & WS is, that's the answer.

Maybe that's the reason why HR is my least favorite character, because i was her, and she reminded me of how bad it was back then with us. Being married now doesn't guaranteed our happiness. We still have a long way to go, more struggles. Sometimes i even feel that if our marriage a mistake? But hopefully, being faced with the demon of our past in a form of such a cute drama, can make me a better person, a better woman, a better wife, and hopefully someday a good mother.

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I was deeply touched when I read your sharing, thanks a lot for sharing your story. I guess I can relate to you at some points. I was waiting for having my baby quite a while (might not as long as you, but knowing the feeling, and you who wait longer, I could totally tell how it feels), struggle with expectation from family, and financial as well, it's totally related. Sometimes I found myself like WS and HR, avoid fighting just to dodge from the outcome that might come up. But the thing is, as time goes by I learn how to live my life happily as today. As this drama tells, this is our first life, live it like it. I often remind myself, whenever I get stressed, it doesn't change anything and it damages myself and also my relationship. But when I decide to be happy regardless of what my situation is, well, it doesn't change anything either but at least it changes myself. It hurts when we witness others might have what we don't have, to the point we don't appreciate what we have right now. Everything lies on the right timing, and we as human just have to give our best in everything. if WS focuses on what he wants, maybe SH just reminded him how to consider what others want. We are selfish as human being, but the more we let our selfishness take control over ourselves, the more pain that we let ourselves and others into. Selfless seems to be a lot harder to do, but especially when we are married, we are no longer two but one. It takes heart and courage to communicate and to compromise, not that we are giving up on our dreams, but we'll build even bigger dreams with our partner. As a fellow woman and wife, just know you are not struggling alone, those who married for many years also face the same things as ours. Marriage is not about a happy ending, but it's all about a new beginning, whether it's good or bad, it's worth our sacrifice together with our own spouse.

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Thank you to both KaniaDJ and mrswilson

Such touching, inspiring and wise words. We make our own happiness and it is a decision. So too is love. It's a decision and a commitment and a choice. May all your choices of today(s) bring light to your tomorrows, whether or not they are happy or challenging. 😃

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Thank you mrswilson & growingbeautifully for your kind words and encouragement :)

Marriage is hard, it's not always pretty as rainbows and roses, because to have rainbows you have to get through rains, and roses have torns. I wish could give slaps to HR & WS so that they can both wake up from their dreaming. But I've been in their shoes, young and eager to fit into society.

Aah.. I love how this drama felt so real. It can evoke your deepest feeling, gives advice to you somehow, yet without being judgy.

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Thanks so much for sharing your experience. You actually made me cry. I am sorry, i cried and also smiled, because it feels kind of happy at the end, like you guys have overcome so much... And you still have to keep on trying.

Not any relationship in the world is perfect, not even between loving parents and their children. Because we humans are all imperfect! Yet, we won´t be forever like that.

There is this wonderful hope written in the Bible (at least for me it is valid, because I am a christian) that says that in the future God will satisfy all the desire of our hearts.
But meanwhile, we are what we are and it is hard. In a Cute drama we always get a happy end and we love it as a catharsis for what we don´t have in the real life, but interestingly for those having hope, that "happy" end.. that "happy ever after" is what makes us endure, because again, according with the Bible, that is what we all will have at the end, and even here on Earth. Of course, going into a kind of religious topic would be complicated in this setting we are, but I wanted to share it with you, in order to give you some consolation, that we are not perfect now... but apparently we will be, and everthing wil be awesome.
Meanwhile, keep on trying!! And send our greetings to your husband.

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@kaniadj Thank you for your sincerity and vulnerability. Those of us who have lived through life a bit certainly have a different view, don’t we? Thank you for sharing yours and I wish you the best in your marriage and in building your family.

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AND can we also talk about how AMAZING MeloMance's cameo was?? His song "gift'' really describes JH and SH's relationship and his OST is also really narrative!! I'm so happy he added a nicer atmosphere to the date not just with a background music BUT by being personally present to sing it!! I don't know why but it makes me soooo happy!!! Sorry, I'm just sooo obsseesed with MeloMance's songs these days, it's actually serious lol! (Off topic but his other OST for the drama 20th Century Boy and Girl GOD!! That one is LIFE!! and it actually is kinda convincing me to start watching the drama!! sorry for the long off topic lol!)
Other than that, this drama... I have no words!! I literally squeal over every things SH and JH do and say to each other!! I have no other things to add since all beanies here have said it well all!

All I want to say is: Who knew using formal way of speech in a relationship would be this sexy?

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I'm super late for this post... It was a busy day for me in the office, and I only open DB site just now.. I can't keep up with the comments.. 😂
But I'm pretty sure everyone's been going wild on the ending of this episode.. and I can't wait for Episode 13.. Tuesday (show with subs is out) please come fast!!! 🏃🏃🏃

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dear @gijoona
the recap was only posted yesterday evening (my time) and yet! this morning, I woke to 355 comments... lol
I'm at work, literally "starting from the bottom" in terms of reading comments, which is how I ended up 1st on yours and I'm here to say:

"you're not LATE! it's just that the show is TOO good!"
HA HA HA HA HA~

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I got taken aback when Se Hee was talking informally to Jung MIn in the flashback scene. What really happend to actually make Se Hee suffer like this ? Why did the girl do such a thing to softhearted guy like him? He deserves to be happy. He needs to live and smile often. He needs all the love from the people around him.

I would love to see an informal cute conversation between Se hee and Ji Ho at the end of the drama. It would be a nice way to see how far they have come together.

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After this episode, the question is more like 'what did SH do to warrant such an abrupt breakup from the ex?' Along wit uptight Dad.

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Awww drama I love thee. It's the only one that's so understated but at the same time give you explosive cliffhangers and extend that to lovely opening scenes.
I'm still disappointed and can't for the life of me understand why Ji Ho seems to be giving up on her other dream of being a writer. But alas, different people, different strokes.

CEO Ma is slowly giving me the heebie jeebies. Soo-Ji is experiencing harassment for what she chooses to wear or not to wear and his reaction is to be jealous and buy her said garment that she clearly said to hate. UGH dude, it's not about you, and you have an agreement.

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Agh same! I can't root for him no matter what. And he's slowly slowly invading more of her privacy. He doesn't even trust that she isn't cheating on him and had to verify for himself. Dude just because she's hot and likes dating guys doesn't mean she has no morals. Honestly, I don't like how he keeps interfering in her life and making it all about him: no one should insult his gf, no one should see his gf's boobs, etc. I wish she would just ditch him and go be a total boss and make her own company!

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Well, IMHO, I don't think he's making it all about him at all.

"No one should insult his gf" - before he became Soo Ji's bf, he was already protective of her, not because he's selfish or what, but because he's far from those wretched CEOs or employees who harass women. Come on, take a look at how they treat Bo Mi at their office. Compare that to how Soo Ji looks every time she's harassed. I don't think that at all is called interfering. It's just being humane.

"no one should see his gf's boobs"
For this, my two cents are, first of all, he's very conservative, but he also knows that if he speaks out his mind about conservative thinking to Soo Ji, they will just get into an argument because of how Soo Ji thinks. Please do note that this is Korea. Even in our country, walking around with no bra on is a shocking sight. You'd mostly only see those in those women who are married with a lot of kids who don't take care of themselves. So I am thinking he was trying to find words that would fit into Soo Ji's space in order not to upset her. That's all. Soo Ji said she's uncomfortable, so that's why he helped her to the best that he can. And it's such a sweet gesture, which Soo Ji, as a matter of fact, appreciated.

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There's a fine line between protective and controlling and judging from Ma's behaviour so far he has definitely crossed it to the latter.
Excuse me but it's insulting to those women to say they don't wear bras because they don't take care of themselves. Seems to me they stopped caring about what society thinks of how much they cover their buddies. Bras are for most an unnecessary societal construct.
And lastly Soo Ji was uncomfortable by the comments made about her, in fact she took off her bra as soon as she got off work just like she took off the stockings and high heals. She felt completely comfortable in her own skin without the under garment. And now she had to pay her hard earned money to get one fitted.

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Thank you. I completely agree with this sentiment. What is it with the need to force women into wearing a bra? Her body, her clothes, her choice. I find it disconcerting to see just how much 'conformity'/'normal' Ma is pushing onto Soo Ji and may be in the minority when I say that I'm not sure I support this pair. Soo Ji, I love. Ma, I do not. But so long as she happy...?

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Same. He knew from the get-go that Soo-Ji is very libral heck she even made him sign a contract. He's too oversensitive and close minded for her. She said specifically not to interfere in her personal life but the next thing he does is not taking her word for what she's answered, instead he followed her to her doorstep. And it pisses me off that he didn't think of supporting her through the harassment she's enduring by her sexist coworkers, instead he finds ways to victim blame her.

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Awe, poor CEO Ma, getting so much hate because of his upbringing. He’s conservative, not sexist. He believes in modesty because he was raised by a mother who told him to stay away from “bad girls,” remember? Who do you think she was referring? We, the no-bras, the game changers, the immodest. But these are not what are valued in a patriachial society. But conformity is, being non-confrontational is, modesty is. That’s ultimately what this show is about. Disguised as a rom-com, it’s a pill that’s easier to swallow.

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I agree. I’m not Korean, but I’m Asian so I kinda relate to that. Asian cultural values are complex matters. What some view as being offensive may not mean so much to other culture, and vice versa. Modesty is very subjective as well. Complex Asian culture puts politeness and modesty in a higher hierarchical structure, and it takes pride on the way you should speak to elders, the way you dress and the way you carry yourself. Family values are put to the highest rank because it’s a society that values thight-knitted family. Which is why anything that goes against the stated family values would threatens their stance in the society. Not referring to the elders using the correct terms (in this case, like noona, oppa, ajusshi etc) is considered rude. Clothes that reveals your private parts are offensive. So not wearing a bra in public is still considered as impolite and inmodest and against the traditional upbringing that highly values politeness and modesty. Hence, CEO Ma’s slightly conservative way contradict so much with Su Ji’s liberal ways, and it will be bound to create conflicts later on since they both have different way of thinking. I believe that’s what the show is trying to highlight for both of them.

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I don't think he's all that conservative...he's quite different from the corporate a-holes she works with, for one thing, and even took a large financial hit to call those jerks out for their behavior.

This is a learning experience for him, but he has proven that he is quite willing to change, little by little. The shame on his face when he realized SJ was protecting her mother--was palpable.

He obviously finds her smart and capable and fun...he has never seen her, I don't believe, as just a good body and a pretty face.

He obviously wrestled with the no-bra thing, but it isn't so "conservative" that he doesn't like those jerks ogling the woman he loves. And he tried to find a work-around, which she accepted, quite gracefully, I might add.

The best part of the whole bra/no-bra controversy, however, is that it is leading her to a new, more fulfilling, empowering career and she can be free of the those corporate sexist pigs once and for all. At least that is my profound hope.

And he's going to be supportive. Will he falter? Of course! Baby steps and all that. But his eyes are being opened in a very real way, and this is a very good thing.

He's a work in progress, but then, so is SJ, no?

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Those jerks are in no way conservative. They are just jerks.

But I agree with you, CEO Ma is not a total conservative, he’s a modern man, but he still values what is culturally acceptable in the society (I’d like to call him slightly conservative in his way of thinking though hee). And yes, both him and Su Ji are still work in progress. I hope they’d be able to find that the middle ground to understand each other better.

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I think it's funny that he was raised to stay away from "bad girsl" but he persuaded one knowing well enough that she has different values. He seems intelligent enough to think that far to see that maybe he's the one who should distance himself from his conservative upbringing as apposed to persisting his gf is the one at fault.

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Thanks for the recap.Se hee was so clumsy when he gave those earrings to Jiho & Jiho's reaction was so cute after Se hee told her that she looks the same with or without makeup.I had a huge grin on my face through out the ep bcs of their overloaded cuteness.These two are just the perfect relationship goals😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

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Just a few thoughts from me... I really loved the episode, but the amount of PPL thrown in my face was very much annoying. I also felt like Sehee buying the earrings for Jiho was a little bit inconsistent with his character - he always says how tight his budget is and is very careful about spending money on unnecessary things, I remember him saying in the first episodes how dating is just a waste of money. I know that it might have been just a wall and now that he is so into Jiho he just doesn't care anymore, but I still didn't really like it. I'm sure Jiho would love the date anyway and they could introduce the ex gf character in the exact same way if Jiho was just wearing her own earrings. But they just had to throw this PPL in our faces...

Nevertheless I love the episode and all of the stories. They were so human. Despite the fact that I am angry at Sanggu for following Suji and being obsessive about her, it feels just so human - they are very fresh in their relationship and while they have to trust each other to build a relationship, I don't fully blame him for jumping to wrong conclusion, since the way Sanggu saw Suji until now wasn't very innocent. I'm really curious how the writer will go with their story.

As for Wonseok and Horang - it slipped my mind that while Wonseok suggested to break up we can't be sure that they indeed broke up. We haven't seen Horang's answer after all. She did change her behaviour after seeing the bank book and she seems to mature a bit through the episodes. I kinda understand her need of getting married, wanting to "fit" etc, not only as her dream, but also as a part of expectations of Korean society. While I'm not Korean myself, but I live here for several years and got some insights, moreso as I speak Korean as well. I have a close friend who is kind of in similar situation to Horang and Wonseok - she wants to create her family and he keeps saying he loves her, but he isn't ready yet, as he doesn't have enough financial stability. But she is constantly pressurred by her mother, who, in turn, is being pressured by the rest of the family, friends and neighbours. It's not just a drama thing - those situation do exist in real life. We saw how Horang's mother was putting pressure on Wonseok, I wouldn't be surprised if she is "responsible" for making Horang think that she is worthy only as a housewife and mother, if you hear this kind of things since childhood no wonder it gets deep into you. While on one hand I think it might be a good thing for Horang and Wonseok to break up and rest from each other, on the other hand I want them to fight for this love, not give up and communicate with each other more and with honesty. I have been in 5 years long relationship myself, thinking about marriage and stuff, but we just let go of each other at some point, without fighting and I hope this won't happen to HR & WS.

On a side note - I watched this episode with my bf who is just so not romantic...

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Continuation:

On a side note - I watched this episode with my bf who is just so not romantic and Sehee reminds me of him sometimes with his plainspoken comments - Sehee and Jiho's date, walking next to those beautiful trees - I started to say out loud "I wonder where..." (as to "I wonder where is it, I'd love to go there, since it's soooo preeettyyyyy") and then he cut me "Don't you know how these gingko trees smell? Don't even think about going there" :D

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I actually like the PPL. I think it's integrated pretty well and when it's not it seems purposeful to show how ridiculous PPL can be (Se-hee using the massage chair v. Bo-mi using it). With the necklace, I think Se-hee is trying really hard to be a "normal" boyfriend/husband and feels like he has a lot to catch up on. This is shown by asking Won-seok about what people do on dates and stating that he's never given her a gift. I think he'll realize, if he hasn't already, that Ji-ho quite literally just wants to hold his hand (well and more) and he can just be his normal, weird, sometimes obnoxious self. With spending money, it proves how much he values Ji-ho. He won't buy cakes for his co-workers but he's willing to spend $20 just to get a snail for her. It's his opportunity to learn that saving money isn't everything and sometimes it's okay to treat yourself and those you love.

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How is it that everybody sees the PPL and I don't? I suppose I am so inmense in the story that I am not able to see it...

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Thats because the PPL in this show is so well integrated and they do not shove into your face to make it really obvious that it's PPL. This is one thing on why I enjoyed this show.

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I don't like the ppl either but at least this is fairly clever. The earrings are from Swarovsky which is another sponsor.

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It's hard to not notice it was Swarovsky :D That's what I mean by saying that they just smash it in our faces. The products are pretty well integrated in the story (not like the PPL Jiho used to insert in her scripts :D ), but it just turns me off... I understand why they use them though, it can't be helped.

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At least I haven’t seen any sandwich even remotely resembling Subway!

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LOL! I was thinking the same thing. I remember in Big Man when Jung So min was playing the younger daughter and I really liked her character, but they reduced her to nothing but a ppl for Subway in the 2nd half. I refuse to buy Subway because of that.

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The PPL is bad. Is it love that made him make such a big change in how he thinks about money? The balloon game alone was too expensive, it was 10 dollars for a set of darts. Someone behind him in the crowd made a comment that SH must be a chaebol for spending so much money there.

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I often wonder if prices are mistranslated by our awesome subbers. Everything seems so expensive in South Korea. 😢 Why not just stick to the price in won as actually said in the dialouge? Then i'd know how much to carry when I finally travel to Korea one day. 😁

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The subs have the prices in won too. I believe 10 dollars was roughly calculated from 1000 won. Not sure about the accuracy though, I have to admit I don't list very well to the lines as much as I should.

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10000 is roughly 9 USD, so the translation to $10 really isn't that off. I don't mind whether the subs give the prices in USD or won because I find it very easy to convert in my head as the exchange rate is so convenient. I can understand wanting it in won, though, because not everyone watching English subs is American!

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Thank you, that extra 0 is important!

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Korea is indeed pretty expensive country. And it's true that one game of throwing darts at balloons costs usually around 10,000 won, I've played it myself too :)

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I took it to mean how much he wanted that snail for Ji ho and therefore quite romantic, esp given his monetary worries.

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The only time I was bothered by the PPL in this show, was with Soo-ji's laptop. That was totally in-your-face, it might as well have been a commercial.
Otherwise, I feel that it's always seamlessly integrated into the plot and the characters' nature.

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Agree that PPL is abundant in the episode.

It does seem a bit out of character for Se Hee not to be as calculative as he used to be when he splurge his hard-earned money like that. Especially when he’s being very calculative on his expenses before. When he mentioned to Ji Ho that he wants to provide a “normal” date for her, I see it as not just him wanting to give her the “normal” date, but also as if he’s trying to correct himself of whatever he’s done wrong before and not wanting to make the wrong move when he’s in a new relationship. He’s tip-toeing into this new relationship, and he’s being very careful so he’s not hurting anyone else anymore, so I think he’s willing to let go of the monetary calculation to fulfill the wants of his new partner in the new relationship. Of course Ji Ho never requested it and she seems surprised herself with Se Hee.

Again, it’s just my point of view. I might be proven wrong later in next eps.

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SH is very consistent in his behavior. He spends his time and money on what he values. Before, it was about the house and the cat. I knew early on that SH valued JH, when he gave the discount on the rent. Only to be followed up by the visits to the bus stop. His money and time was shifting to her. Now, he’s doing even more. Remember that Kitty got to take a cab, and no expenses spared at the vet. Now, JH is benefitting from SH’s focus.

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He also spent money buying everyone cake to distract them and give Sang-gu and Su-ji their privacy. ^^ You're right, he spends money on what he values.

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And I didn't even mind the PPL earrings since they were stars. So they called back on Ji-ho's comments about the stars being out or not depending on how annoyed she is with Se-hee. He wanted the stars to be out!

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I like this delicate show. The characters are not two-dimension, which allows realistic portrayal. So far, Lee Min-ki's stoic and Jung So-min's naivete isn't very off-putting. However, I find myself at times wish that the pace is a bit faster. The poem, the play, and the main characters' narratives are nice touches.
This show reminds me so much of Dear My Friends, which I wish I watched with more patient.

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A slow paced show is very hard to pull off successfully. This drama is a masterwork and the pace is perfect, imo.

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I feel so sad for Ho Rang who has dedicated her life and youth to Won Seok. But the separation is really something which they needed most. Their relationship is no longer healthy. It's just that Ho Rang should have broken up with Won Seok right after she found out that they have different views on marriage. I wish during their separation, Won Seok comes to realize what he really wants for his future. If he and Ho Rang won't get back together, I wish Ho Rang to be successful in whatever endeavor she would take or find happiness to other which she never get from Won Seok.

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So I'm watching the movie "Very Ordinary Couple" with Lee Min ki and guess who's also in it - Sang gu. So they've known each other since at least 2014 in real life.

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Very Ordinary Couple AND For The Emperor? Are you making your way through his whole filmography? Heheeee.

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Oops - caught!! Er, yeah, I've watched I Really, Really Like You too. Haven't had the guts to watch all of Monster yet. This is cutting into my house cleaning time. Dalja is on the list and whatever else I can find.

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And how could I forget Spellbound when I've watched it twice!

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