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Bound by tragedy, healing through love in JTBC’s Just Between Lovers

Oh I love the unexpected cute that will, hopefully, counteract some of the heavier melo elements in Just Between Lovers. JTBC’s new melodrama has about three weeks left until its premiere, and the station has released four new teasers to give us a closer look at our leads, played by Junho (Chief Kim) and rookie Won Jin-ah, as well as our first brief glimpses of Lee Ki-woo (Woman of Dignity), Kang Hanna (Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo), and Na Mun-hee (Dear My Friends).

Junho and Won Jin-ah’s characters are bound together through tragedy, both having miraculously survived a horrible accident that claimed the lives of their family members, and to an extent, their futures. Kang-doo, played by Junho, lives a rough life in the back streets after losing his father and his dream of becoming a soccer athlete. He seems a bit hot-headed, getting into fights regularly, even when the odds aren’t in his favor. It’s after one such brawl that he first meets Moon-soo, played by Won Jin-ah, as she warily enters the alley where he’s lying bloody and barely conscious. He narrates, “That wind changed everything.”

Moon-soo narrates the same line offscreen in the next short teaser, as the two sit together on a bench. The female lead holds a similar pain to Kang-doo, having lost her younger sister to what looks like a major accident, but Moon-soo doesn’t wear her scars on her sleeve. It’ll be interesting to see how two people who’ve dealt with their pain so differently come together to heal each other. They certainly look adorable together, when Kang-doo approaches her in the rain to “repay my debt in the alley before,” and he pulls her into a hug.

I thought that Kang Hanna and Lee Ki-woo’s characters were just colleagues at the architecture firm where Moon-soo works, but it look like they also have a shared history, perhaps a relationship that ended badly. She asks whether he would’ve acted differently, to which he replies, “I would’ve stayed, despite everything.” Out of them all, though, Kang-doo sounds the most jaded, asking who will compensate for the suffering of those who have lived miserable lives, and that you have to be crazy to live in this world. Maybe he got it from Yoon Se-ah (Forest of Secrets), who has become his only family after the accident, and though we don’t get to see her in the teasers, we can hear her say that it’s the “weak ones that will get all excited over the trivial things.”

I’m just holding out hope that the romance between Kang-doo and Moon-soo is as cute as the last teaser makes it look, because him getting thrown off kilter by her wordless, motherly actions—like tidying up his hair and buckling his seatbelt—are the cutest thing. Take in the stray, slightly feral puppy and shower him with love, Moon-soo! And I completely agree with the offscreen remarks made about how Kang-doo looks at Moon-soo “the way a man looks at a woman.” The show hasn’t even started and I’m already rooting for these two to be adorable constantly.

Just Between Lovers will air on Mondays and Tuesdays on JTBC, starting on December 11.

Via iMBC (1), iMBC (2), Herald Pop, eNews 24

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everything about this show has me hyped the plot, actors, the beautiful scenery and posters. now all i can hope the drama does it justice because my expectation for this drama is sky high

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The female rookie's face reminds me of someone, but who? I can't really tell.. It seems like her face is mixed of some actresses' face

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In my opinion, she look like Soo Ae a bit

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Yea she reminded me of Soo Ae too :)

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yes, definitely Soo Ae..

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Yes totally Soo Ae, I had the same thought from day 1.

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She kinda reminds me of Kim Ji-won

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to me she looks like jung hye sung during her pride and prejudice days.

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She reminds me of Mina from AOA who also played a nurse in Hospital Ship.

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She reminds me of the actress who played IU's, er, assistant (?) in "Scarlet Heart." She was also in "Twenty Again."

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She reminds me of soo ae

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She reminds me of Rhythmic Gymnast Son Yeon Jae;)

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To me, she looks like soo ae and jang hee-jin combined. Both of them have this cool and cold auras around them that I also got from the female lead's stills.

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Seeing these teasers made me so excited for this show, how am I supposed to wait until December?! As if I wasn't already waiting like an idiot (*cough* Junho *cough*). Fingers crossed it will be good!

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After Chief Kim ended NGM said he wanted to do a romance drama. So guess who gets a romance drama instead ? Junho 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Can't wait to see how this drama will go 😊

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I was excited about this before but the teasers have gotten me even more hyped for the drama.
Junho pulls off the "a disheveled puppy in need of love" look so well!

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Is it only me or that the title font is quite similar to While You Were Sleeping’s?

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It's not big deal though. This font is more sharpen / bold than WYWS.

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They use the same calligrapher (Jun Eunsun). Apparently, various TV stations use her services for drama titles. If you're interested, you could check out her IG: daruum_calligraphy

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Yay! Junho! 😍😍😍 *dances for joy*
So is this a 12 or 16-episode drama?

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December seems perfect for some melodrama and the casts - from Junho, Kang Hanna to Lee Ki-woo, all are great.. Won Jin-ah looks so lovely too, and I'm looking forward to see her performance. Whoever decided on the castings did a good job because both couple match well and tbh I'm soo looking forward for another good role for Kang Han-na who has always been good in her performances so far. I trust the combination of this PD Kim Jin-won who helmed The Package, Nice Guy, Wonderful Days and drama special Just An Ordinary Love and writer Yoo Boo-ra, who penned on Secret Love as second writer and a list of very good drama specials such as Snowy Road (babies Kim Hyang-gi & Kim Sae-ron ❤❤❤), Youth (Seo Young-joo- lead guy in Girl's Generation), Yeon-woo's Summer (Han Ye-ri ❤) and others, to give us a good melodrama with slice of life elements.

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Sera, have you seen Junho and/or Won Jin-ah in anything? I'll try this just for Kim Jin-won (even the trailers are looking good to me <3) and Kang Han-na, but I don't know anything about either of the leads and it's a little nerve wracking haha.

Thanks for the detailed write up on Yoo Bo-ra! I feel reassured looking at the drama specials she's done and the actresses she's worked with (assuming she had any power over casting haha).

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Junho was very, VERY good in Chief Kim. VERY good. I am not worried at all about him.

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Ok, thanks for the reassurance :)

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Won jinah was in Scarlet Heart as a supporting role. She played a maid and a love interest of one of the princes. She was also in a webdrama Wednesday 3.30 pm with Hongbin (Vixx). In my opinion she was okay ;)

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Okay, cool! I think if her performance in Scarlet Heart had annoyed me I'd probably have remembered it, so that's a good sign lol. Thanks for the reply :)

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That was another girl- Jin Ki-joo. 😊

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Junho was good in Chief Kim, I wasn't really cared about him as an actor - watched him in Memories of Sword, imo he did well but not something memorable, Twenty and Memory. But he was good in this drama although I'm not 100% convinced yet about his acting range - because I have a feeling I liked his role more than his acting,
so I'm not too sure. lol. Wong Jin-ah as far as I know, only appeared as minor roles in some movies and this is going to be her first drama. But since she is selected based on audition,so maybe we can trust on the production on this?

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Yeah, I have that problem, too--if I really like a role, then I have a hard time separating the character and the performance, which has led to some painful reality checks when I go on to see them in something else lol. And then sometimes even consistently good actors seem to be born for one role, which is how I'm starting to feel about Jung Kyung-ho and Cruel City. He's done a respectable job in everything I've seen him in, but he's never *been* any of his other character the way he was the Doctor's Son.

Yeah, I agree, the fact that she auditioned is a positive sign. The other reassuring thing is that they're both in the hands of a good director, who should be able to minimize whatever limitations they have. idk, kind of excited to see how this show turns out!

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aside from chief kim, his performance in the movie Twenty with haneul and woo bin was, i can say, in league or at par with the two.

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I have to say the only reason I was interested in this drama initially was because Junho's starring in it. But after watching all the teasers, I'm really starting to get hyped about the story too. It's too early to really tell, but I'm loving the chemistry between the leads so far, so I really hope it's going to do well both plot and ratings wise.

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Yessssss finally! 🙌🏼🙌🏼

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Whether it's because Junho is like Rain's little brother in terms of looks or because of the tone of the drama itself but everything reminds me of A Love To Kill. And that's probably enough for me to give it a shot no matter what.

I'm really happy Junho is finally getting to be a lead. He's a good actor amongst the sea of terrible idol actors and he deserves to headline his own show. I hope it's great, I really want to love it.

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To be honest, I never get the man patting woman's hair thing in dramas. When I see it, I interpret it as a sign of the guy being superior over the girl. But I'm getting the swoon feels when Won Jin-ah is doing to Yunho ☺

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And the fastening of the seat belt! 😃

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Please tone down the cute and add more DRAMA. Hehehhe...
I can't wait to watch this. I'm in the mood of melodrama right now.

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The soft, melancholy vibe of these teasers is getting to me. I'm kind of interested in seeing how both these lovelines pan out. There is hidden angst and shared histories. But more than anything, the thing I'm here for is puppy! Junho. His adoring eyes are just too much to deal with.

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Watching the teaser, it feels like a japanese drama 😆

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Couldnt agree more. I am into Japanese dramas and movies and that's why i get hyped about the atmosphere of this drama

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i've got Mars (taiwan series, 2004) vibe from the preview. worth a try ?

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Won Jinah has been acting in movies prior to this which makes me very optimistic about her acting.
Anywayyyyy this drama is already hitting the right strings, I hope it gets picked up bij Viki! 🙏

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It has been picked by viki but just under a different name. 🤗🤗

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Oh boy,this looks sooo good!!!Pretty please be as good as u market it!!!

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JUNHO LOOKING EXTRA FINE HERE , love his puppy look and hair!

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#yetanotherrooftopsanctuary

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A melodrama is only as good as its cast, and this one has definitely caught my attention. I can already feel how palpable the tension is going to be from these little teasers. Junho's open-wound puppy look is really working for me right now lol, as are the little glimpses to Won Jina's more subdued character. Praying for off the charts chemistry and the birth of a new OTP.

Since its pre-produced, I hope the storyline won't fall through in the middle like so many other melos. I can't believe we still have 3 more weeks to wait for this!

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This looks, and sounds, so beautiful - like a healing drama. I want to be put through pain and heal with the protagonists <3

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I totally agree with you! Please put me through the pain and heal me with them xD

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I love tonally soft healing dramas like these... Crossing my fingers that it delivers ~!! Also, Kang Hanna unni in another drama <3

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These teasers are so beautiful. Waiting for December couldn't be any slower

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Besides loving the posters ...
and the music …
and the whole feel …
Junho as the main lead????
Yay!!! I'm so excited!!!!
He stole my heart in Chief Kim 💕

*Balloons exploding, colors turning*

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Yesss!!! bring on the melo! Melo has been sadly (hur) missing this year. I'm all exhausted from thrillers and rom-coms and now really want to dive in some good old fashioned melodrama! And this looks really good.

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I really love the premise, and I love how they decided to cast both Junho and Jinah since I've never seen them before (well I love Junho as a singer but I've never really seen any of his dramas/movies yet). The teasers are lovely so I hope this will be cute and deep at the same time, that's like my favorite combination ever.

P.S. Jinah reminds me of both Soo Ae and Chun Woohee

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Preparing my poor heart for another melodrama. Junho got my attention in Chief Kim so I'll definitely check this out. (Hopefully, he'll bring some of his entertaining quirks from Chief Kim)

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The posters and teasers look really promising! I love how they used neutral colors and kept it simple. I've been waiting for a pure, youth melodrama since forever.
The actress reminds me a bit of Kim Go Eun!
Junho looks so soft ><

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Looks amazing, can't wait!!! I love when batches of new dramas come in, so much excitement.

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Junho!!!!!!!!!!

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looks great!!! can't wait to see their growth <3

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Is it just me or does the sight of 'rookie actress and not 'idol rookie actress' seem soo pretty?😊😊

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waahhh daebak! this show is really heartwarming! i was looking a light drama to take a break from school but this drama really catch my attention! though this drama was a melo, but i really love the flow of the story, the casts, staffs, cinematography, director and the writer!!! can't wait for the next episode!! waahhh!! Junho and Won Jin-A waahhh both of you are soo cuutteeee!! also Kim Gang-Hyun and also granny Na Moon-Hee!! all of youuu!! <3

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Who is Kim GangHyun??? :D

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@giegie0384 Isn't that the actor who plays his friend Sang-Man? He does a wonderful job, doesn't he?

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Oh yay, you tagged the right me. :D

I don’t know the actor but yeah, he’s doing a great job portraying Sang-man. I’m currently watching Chief Kim and he’s there too.

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Die-hard fans of Just between Lovers unite!! Lets use this post as a gathering place for discussions, comments, squares, and rants about the drama..

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Sigh, autocorrect, it's squeeeeee

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What is KILLING me about JBL is that all the same drivers are there again in spite of the massive tragedy. Ten years and 49 deaths later.....history is repeating; no one character is purposefully evil, but that they all have different (competing) goals to meet.

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That kills me too, but sadly, is realistic on small and large scales.

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@miss h I wonder if that's why the drama resonates as much as it does.

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Thanks for setting this up!

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Oh, ok. I thought you meant her wall. I get you now. This could be good especially since we get notifications here now. Let's do this!

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@hades yay!! And sorry for the confusion....

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Paraphrasing my friend, this is a perfect winter drama. Nothing but love for it. ❤️

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oh damn!.. why did i not know about this.. and i have been watchign the drama since day 1 :(

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No worries! We just started!

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Same here I just found this. Thanks! I've been watching each episode raw then with subs because I just can't wait. Such a beautiful, sweet, heartbreaking but delightful love story.
yeah now I can read what others think too!

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Gah, it's late but your writeup has me so hyped about starting this show. ♥

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Please join! @mary the more, the merrier!!

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Has anyone else catch the ghost boy in any of the other episodes? There's the barest of flashes in episode 1 where Gang-do is having a panic attack at the construction site and then he's a blurred figure in one of the ice cream shop scenes. Even Gang-do's focus on the guy's shoes is shown in episode 2 though the eyeline match isn't made until a later episode.

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the gost boy was that text message Moon Soo's boyfriend

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Yes @crysta and it shocked the hell outta me when it happened...I was not expecting it. One of the other beanies had mentioned survivors guilt, which makes sense. There definitely are hints of something horrible happening during their time trapped under the rubble.

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The scene of him telling Kang Doo to put away the block of concrete of his leg was so real - people who lost their body parts don't realize that straight. Also that part when Kang Do is telling Moon Soo that in life danger a person is caring just for himself is applying to both of them - Moon Soo was saved first, but didn't tell anybody there were others in the same spot, Kang Doo let go the grubbing clutching hand of the "Milky Boy" (he plays in Jugglers as well) and let him in there.

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It’s not that Moon-soo did not tell them that someone was still trapped. In the flashback she was trying to point her finger as if telling the rescuer there were still people inside the collapsed building but she was so weak she could barely lift her hand, and she lost conciousness. What she’s feeling guilty about was that she feels like both her sister and boyfriend died because of her. She asked her boyfriend to meet up with her in that mall.

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That's so true. :-) But Kang Do doesn't know it. There are different sides of a story all the time, but when you don't know the truth, you think your truth is the right one.

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And yet he treats her nicely and doesn’t hold what he assumes she did/didn’t do against her, which I love. He must have fallen for her the first time he saw her. ^__^

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@giegie0384 I was surprised by that too. I thought it was the first turn of angst.

I love that Gang-do refuses to get in the middle of other people's lives and yet he gets in the middle of everyone's lives. He can't help himself in helping others although it comes out all gruffy. He's the most begrudging life guru ever.

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@Giegie when she was putting the lipgloss on her lips ;-)

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@BC
That’s not the first time he saw her. He saw Moon-soo and her sister outside of the mall, but you’re right, he must have fallen for her when she’s applying lipgloss on her lips.

@crysta He’s a good person but he doesn’t want to admit it. :D

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I agree, Moon-soo is feeling responsible/guilty about her boyfriend and her sisters deaths, but she doesn't seem to have the same horror-show memory of their time buried as Kang doo does.
Wasn't there mention early on in the hospital that Moon-soo had amnesia from a blow to the head? (and she couldn't recall the song with Kang doo?)

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The brain does this great thing = supressing memories which doesn't want to keep. Her bestie mentioned that the song was her favorite while in hospital so it must have comein the partialy healing proces.

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i am actually wondering who the new entry is.. the man they met regarding the new memorial design.. and who seemed to recognize GD..

again a survivor? look of similar age.. he did lose his father in there..

step brother of someone?

Q: How can you get rid of survivor's guilt? by facing the situation again adn saving someone who is about to die?

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maybe hypnose might work...

I know there're plenty of possibilities - we know Kang Do and his sister didn't get any compensation money for their father and it was mentioned that just the direct bond people got it so where's Kang Do's mum?

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sshe died of cancer or sthg

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He’s the son of one of the victims. I wonder what he meant when he told Kang-doo “they” really look similar. Who did he mean Kang-doo looks similar to?

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@giegie0384 Did they say the banker lost his father? I was wondering if he's related to Moon-soo's boyfriend.

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Yes. Moon-soo met with him (per Kang-doo’s suggestion to meet with the victims’ families rather than just building a memorial statue) to get his signature/approval to build the said statue. IIRC.

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So as somebody mentioned it is based on the collapse of Sampoong Deparment Store in 1995. It must be terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQXTSR9koCg

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black was also based on the same

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Thank you for sharing this. The opening credits of JBL with the referential photos of 'wrecks does seem to imply that they're based on real-life incidents, like the ferry accident.

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I think the writer wrote this like a homage to all those people - survivors or the deciesed ones.

there's a documentary about the mall and you can see all of this in this drama as well - corruption and greed changing the direction of humans

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Therein lies the tragedy; capitalism will NEVER put mankind before the almighty dollar, or yen, or pound. I am living in a society where all value is being leached out of our systems in order to support insatiable demands for more profit.....it is heartwrenching.

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I saw the movie Karl Marx not long time ago. But I've grown up in a comunist - socialist country and the greed and corruption were so very present, that after the revolution nothing really changed, even the same people are still in the government or behind it. People are greedy by nature, that's why it's an "insult" to be in the same familly with animals. There're even budhist monks which are calling for killing (Myanmar). If there would be the KM idealistic state without human greed for power and money somewhere there, I would like to experience it.

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I know I'm late but Reply 1994 had an episode covering this too! Such a sad tragedy :(

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It is so nice to see Moon-Soo and Kang-Doo start to open up to each other about their past as they were sitting in the bus, now they know that have two less homes to visit. These scene was bitter-sweet.

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Yes it was. I appreciated the way how they show that he naturally opens up in response to something her learns about Moon-soo, be it what she has told him directly or what he learned from others. That is what made the ending of episode 7 make sense.

That ending though. It's like he's asking, how is it possible that they've both gone through the same incident and she's 'relatively unscathed' as compared to himself. That in and of itself has two meanings: 1. Is she really ok? He asking this out or care and concern given his mental trauma. 2. Why just me and not you too? I think it's hard to get away from even considering this question as a human being. Even if you don't want to think it, it might just be there. Of course I know it's the former that the show will push, but it interesting that the double meaning exists. Lastly, it highlights the difference in the length of time they were both trapped underground for, especially since Kang-doo was the last one out.

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My heart just breaks for him. I agree with you on the layered meanings of 'are you ok', especially with how he delivered the same question, but with different inflections. Btw, shout out to the leads- they are phenomenal in their respective roles. As for Kang doo, I think he is a stellar character, in spite of the rough edges.

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Episode 7 Highlights

+It's funny when you have an amazing view from your apartment and you either grow tired of seeing it or in this case you never paid it any mind.
+I would like to say that halmeoni runs an apothecary/clinic, but she comes off as a drug pusher sometimes. That scene when she was giving Joo-won medication.
+When they went to each other's place and poor Kang-doo was trying to play it cool. When she told him that she had eaten already, how could he not think that she was trying to find an excuse to spend time with him?!
+I love how gradually and naturally Kang-doo and Moon-soo's relationship is progressing.
+I feel somewhat badly for both Joo-won and Yoo-taek. No matter how old you are, when their are changes to your family, it's often not easy to take or let go of. I appreciate that while they've made Yoo-taek look like a total ass with this, they show Joo-won dissatisfaction which in turn humanizes both characters.
+When Mar-ri gave Yoo-taek a cover/alias business card. So clever this business woman is.
+Yoo-taek's wife. Would it be messed up of me to say, so wonder he's cheating?
+They really need to start working on redeeming Yoo-taek as a character/person. He really is passing the point of no return for me.
+You would think that Joo-won would have been smarter than that on a job site to not do what he did when he was feeling unwell. Ditto for Kang-doo. I can't wait until Kang-doo falls (figuratively) for Moon-soo hard that he'll hopefully stop doing such idiotic things and take care of himself.
+Is it me or are some of the wounds on Kang-doo's face somewhat inconsistent. At the beginning of the episode he had a cut on his lip that miraculously went away by the time he took the dive.
+When Moon-soo was having the tug-of-war with stalker boy and in the aftermath Wan-jin tells him to get her phone and Kang-doo barks to get water. What!? 😂
+Halmeoni's brain tumour diagnosis. I don't think Kang-doo will be able to handle that at all. He might become a total and utter mess.

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Halmeoni's brain tumor... My cousin died from it when she reached 19 years old... A sister of law of a friend died from it just after succesfully recovering from brest's cancer this fall. I hope that they'll portray it with not just unsuportable headache. It's growing is pressing all this different buttons in your brain and you seem like crazy to the others...

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LOL at KD barking to get water. I thought he was going to tell Boknam (I don’t remember his name in the drama) to call for an ambulance because that’s what Wan-jin told him but he instead yelled “water”. 😂 Funny scene.

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I thought he told ice, that it was mistranslated. I think he is so loyal to his halmoni, that he won't call the ambulance no matter what ;-) Just joking. The expenses of emergency in SK is no joke.

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I was talking about the scene in Wan-jin’s house when Moon-soo hit her head to the ground and lost conciousness for a few seconds. He and Wan-jin were so worried and she told him to call for help but instead of “ambulance”, he said “water” to stalker guy. Lol

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It wasn't anything serious, he just wanted to wake her up ;-) It was funny :))

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I don't know if it is medically correct or not. I always see people using water to wake up unconscious patients since I was young. They drizzle the water on or use it to wash the patient's face. Or maybe to let the patient drink the water after he wakes up. I think this is what he was trying to do with the water.

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I’m not sure if he’s really asking for water or if he’s so worried he said water instead of ambulance. I found it funny because I expected him to say ambulance or help, not water. :D

People here do that, too. They use either water or oil with strong minty/menthol smell to wake up unconcious patients.

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@hikarinmh @giegie about the water, makes sense.

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I guess that since he isn't keen to go to the hospital even after numerous injuries, a hospital or ambulance isn't the first in his mind at the time.

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@giegie0384 @kerouregan

Now that I rewatch the Making of the scene, Kang Doo did ask for ambulance first. He said "119. Call the ambulance." Then, he yelled for the water.

The Making is subbed now on YT.
Link: https://youtu.be/QT-BOufI9Xw

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..."That's why chil memories are so important"... "The good times in childhood. I don't remember. I only remember all the sucky things." "Gang Doo, it's been over 40 years since my husband died. I lived waiting to forget everything hoping things would get better. And do you know what I realized? Such a day won't come. What you can't force, just let it be. Don't try too hard. Being sad and painful... Those thinks are always with us. We have to accept that. What else we can do?" "It's not fair." "But instead you can meet someone better and live a fun life. You can do that. Don't worry."

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I hope things are better with you now. :)

Problem is Kang-doo has no one to constantly remind him that things will get better. He’s practically alone after his father died in the accident. His relationship with his only family is not like that of a siblings’. He has been living with his pain for so long that he’s having a difficult time opening up to anyone. So it’s nice to see him starting to trust and open up to Moon-soo, coz we know she is that someone for him, the one he needs.

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That's why I fell partly for my living partner. He can be a real jerk sometimes but in the difficult times he's consoling me. It's very hard to open to somebody about your personal deep wounds. Even the closest ones don't know that you're hurting that much.

Oh, I was hurting with Kang-doo when Moon-soo didn't embrace him completely when he told her he's hurting so badly.

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I am glad your partner supports you and sees when you need to be consoled.

Here we are non-denominational extreme huggers, so I agree with you, full body hugs should be allowed in kdramas!

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I wanted to punch the drunk trio so bad for ruining their moment! And Moon-soo should have been more decisive in returning the hug, but I would have been shocked too. Plus, it's not like he was level with her so that could have made it more awkward for her and stalled her reaction.

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I agree it was awkward. I also think that (theoretically) he's known her for a lot longer than she has, so she's still in the early stages of affection, where he seems to have slid all the way into full-blown love😀.

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@beantown oh, definitely. He's so far gone. I think she's slightly aware of her feelings, but still believes she's not worthy to have such happiness.

It's interesting how their self-hatred manifested in different ways. Gang-do has hallucinations that tell him he sucks anytime he dares to be happy, while Moon-soo just acts like it's natural to not deserve happiness after what she did. Moon-soo has been surrounded by people who have supported that idea (her parents - her mother actively, her father passively), while Gang-do is surrounded by people who would contradict him except he can't escape his own demons that say otherwise. That's why Moon-soo is so valuable to Gang-do. If she can say he has value, a person who has gone through the same tragedy and has regrets herself, then maybe, just maybe, it's true.

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@crysta Yes!! Great analysis! I also think they are the only ones that fill those roles for each other, because they suffered through that time together; they're essentially imprinted on each other. Joo won is a victim as well, is very supportive and complimentary to Moon soo, but it is clear he cannot change her view of self, or take Kang doo's place.

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Those are Halmeoni's sentences,not @ BC's :-)

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I commented before watching the subbed episode. My bad. :)

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I am enjoying the side relationships almost as much as i enjoy our leads. I love that Kang doo has created a family for himself, in spite of his grinchey exterior! When he broke in to check on haemoni?! And then snuggled in?❤❤❤

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I looooved that scene. "Its too tight." "Then lose some weight." Hehe that's something I totally would say to my mom

I'm enjoying the side characters as well. They are all broken one way or another but they are dealing with it in very different ways. While Gang-do and Moon-soo feel as if they are failing at surviving, they really are doing much better than everyone else. Their innate nature to be kind and thoughtful never was completely destroyed unlike the CEO or even Ji-won, who seems to be spiraling further and further down into darkness.

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So this is where all the fun discussion was going on! I didn't know. I've been raving about JBL randomly on the fanwall.

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Glad you're here! Have you seen this week's episodes? I am still swooning over the handholding at the bus stop, just a brilliant (and almost speechless) interlude.

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That’s my favorite scene in the episode 8. They just don’t want to part ways yet and end up getting on the bus together. ^____^

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It definitely was the spoonful of sugar to prepare us for the awful taste of the reveal about Kang Doo's father. I had to pause it halfway, its so painful.

Though there seemed to be many causative factors; solely blaming Kang doo's father seems a little excessive.

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I wasn't expecting the reveal about Gang Doo's dad, but I should have suspected something. In hindsight, YJ's reaction was too much for GD's dad to simply be a worker who died and whose family didn't receive compensation.

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Regardless of whether it’s true or not Kang-doo should not be blamed for what his father did. I got a little mad with Moon-soo in that scene because she listened to that banker but refused to hear Kang-doo’s explanation.

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YES!!! the hand-holding at the bus was SPOT ON. such a perfect moment for these two characters. The almost-speechlessness, the mutual timidity and vulnerability, but all so very believable for these two people. i love that bit so much. i keep going back to it. (ALSO I AM SO GLAD I FOUND THIS THREAD I WAS DYING NOT HAVING A PLACE TO READ/CHAT ABOUT THIS GEM OF A SHOW <3 <3 <3)

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Hello, @anothernicole 🤗🤗🤗 we feel lucky to have found each other, too! It was a perfect scene, beautifully-written and brilliantly acted

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I just found this place too. This show keeps me coming back. It's so heavy but I keep coming back.

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I know right!! i was wondering why no one was talking about this great drama!

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Episode 8 Highlights

Pros:
+One of the highlights of this show and this episode has been how naturally Kang-doo and Moon-soo's relationship has progressed. That bus scene was really quite good. When he said she looked cuter the next day was too good.
+Halmeoni's conversations are so awesome!
+I want halmeoni to die before the show ends. I doubt it would happen unless there are timeskips etc, but it would be interesting to see Kang-doo work though that loss seeing how we've seen how much she means to him and this episode and others.
+I appreciate the way we're getting to see Wan-jin's relationship play out. Sure, we're not getting too much detail or anything, but her interactions with stalker boi--we really need to get his name if we haven't already--are quite telling. I would appreciate a little more insight as to his motives as well as her's to tie everything together.

Cons: I might sound very argumentative/bitter etc. here and I might be.
-At least one of Moon-soo parents could be rooting for Kang-doo. Seriously.
-I knew the beginning of the fallouts between Moon-soo and Kang-doo were going to happen eventually, but I didn't expect it in the same episode that they just started to understand just what they mean to each other. The fallout is annoying on multiple levels though. Firstly, Kang-doo's deceased father arguably had some part in the incident. However, that had nothing to do with Kang-doo himself. I was so hoping that this show was going to break the mold. I was hoping that the episode would end with her going to his place and saying that, ok, let me hear you out. Let's work this out. But no.
-I don't know why the drama gods feel the need to have a love triangle/unrequited love in 90% of romance stories. Some people have it difficult to get one partner in their lifetime, let alone being hounded by other interested parties. Seriously drama land!
-Going off of the above, when you use the love triangle in conjunction with a fallout that has nothing to do with the love triangle, this plot device just serves to create misunderstandings and frustrates people like me! I so hope they resolve at least this love triangle thing quickly.

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I love Halmeoni.

I also think the love triangle is unnecessary, especially since Joo-Won now knows that Moon-soo and Kang-doo like each other. I'm also super annoyed that neither Joo-Won or Yoo-Jin defended Kang-doo in the office after the fight. They keep saying they want to work with Kang-doo, but do they really. What are their intentions?

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Before I comment on your post, I need to clarify a crucial bit of information. What did Kang Doo's father do? The subs were weird at that point (something about reinforcing bars) Can someone help a beanie out?

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I believe that apparently, his dad was selling bars from the construction site on the side, which is why the building was not sturdy and collapsed. So the guy was being a jerk to Kang Doo and blaming his dad for the accident.

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Thanks, though I'm still confused about the ending - I guess these things are meant to be mysterious but I'm still curious about:
1) Who is this banker dude who knows so much about the construction and Kang Doo's father.
2) Did Kang Kang know about his dad's role in the accident? What was he 'going to explain' to Moon Soo?
3) More importantly, did architect Seo know about this from the beginning, and tried to 'share the guilt' by involving Kang Doo in building the memorial?

Love triangle is totally unnecessary by the way. I hope it finishes quickly, though it's a bit tricky because he is their boss.

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1) The banker dude sounds like someone who followed all the news reports after the accident and losing his father. Needing someone to blame, he bought the whole story of Gang-do's father being the sole problem instead of seeing it as a way for the company to avoid blame.
2) He knew because of his comment to Ji-won at the sauna - that although selling rebar wasn't the real reason the building collapsed, his father wasn't a good person.
3) Ji-won knew (his non-reaction noted by his sister) but I think it was his way of trying to let Gang-doo's future actions speak for themselves and not blame him for his father's sins or even his destroying of the monument.

And, yeah I'm not a fan of the love triangle, although I think the cliffhanger is just messing with us and she'll be straightforward with him (so I hope at least). I don't really blame her at this point because she hasn't really crossed any line. It was her mom/aunt that were being ridiculous. If she doesn't say anything now, then I'll be throwing my computer across the room...

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@crysta thanks!
I think I need to rewatch ep. 8. I watched it with my sister and had to do a lot of explaining. I'm sure I missed important details...
On the plus side, she's always bored stiff by dramas, but somehow she tolerated 3 hours of JBL today (eps 6-8). That says something right? :D

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Further to @C.Lo and @crysta The Banker dude is a loans officer. Moon-soo first met him in ep 5 ~00:47:30. He didn't like the idea of the memorial and he feels guilt towards his father's death because it allowed him to have the job he does today. Interestingly enough, Kang-doo should have met him that day as well, but he got side-tracked going after the loan sharks who were bugging his sister.

Rebar is short for reinforcing bar. It's laid as a frame before concrete is poured to strengthen the concrete and the structure as a whole. Not so funny enough, I'm pretty sure it's the thing that went through Kang-doo's leg and resulted in his injury--as if he needed a life long reminder of his father's actions.

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Thanks for the info on the rebar. Yes it was the type of bar that impaled Gang Do's leg. Can't imagine how resilient he was to have survived 8 days of that, no food (I thought he might have died of thirst in that time actually), in the dark and not to mention the horror of knowing that the other guy had lost a leg or was dead nearby.

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@C.Lo @wishfultoki @crysta @hades If JBL is based on the 1995 Sampoong department store collapse ( thank you BC, for finding that!) then it was a aggregation of many factors-inc. poor building construction and design, but rebar failure is not listed as the primary cause.

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Also, in the earlier episodes I thought they implied Joo Wons father was blamed for the building collapse, and then committed suicide? (....😭😭😭realizes I am recap-dependent)

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I'm recap dependent as well espc since my memory sucks and I sometimes misinterpret things. Will have to go back and check who exactly got most of the blame. BTW, I would guess that the rebar issue would fall under poor building construction. It should be noted though that someone selling off building material is not uncommon in construction. It is also not uncommon to have a surplus of material.

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@hades Thanks for explaining, I didn't have subs during the "The Banker dude's" cafe scene so was I totally confused.

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Me too! I am too impatient to wait for 100% subs, so I am sure to miss vital info in my race to gobble up new episodes!

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The engineer was initially blamed but my theory is that since he was too close to the corporation, the company deferred blame to Gang-do's father. Therefore, they were able to decline full responsibility (and keep their jobs) and probably got out of some compensation to the families as well. The engineer/Ji-won's father still felt guilty though and killed himself.

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as @hades mentioned is very common from this kind of huge site's construction to have some material to be trafficked ( our new rich neighbour bought this abandoned expensive farm and got to rebuild it and it's like at the end of the world, like 10 people all together knew about this place, one morning the workers came and there was nada, all the things wiped out, blame the aliens) that's why it cost more to build it, but then other material will be bought and the construction continues. It's so unfair to blame KD father for the collapse.

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Thanks @beantown @hades @lcaro13 and @crysta. I'm so recap-dependent for things like this. I am not super interested in the corporation antics, but I need to understand the basics because it's affecting my ability to follow what goes on with the OTP.

Also, somewhat to my shame, watching JBL with my sister brought my attention back to the realism of this drama - it's not a fluffy romance... She sat down and immediately asked if the opening shot is of the 2014 Sewol Ship disaster.

We also remembered a similar tragedy in our hometown: a supermarket caught fire, and the doors were closed trapping about a hundred people inside. Nobody ever took responsibility for it (the supermarket went bankrupt) and the families were never properly compensated. It's still there, a scorched shell of a building. It hurts.

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@wishfultoki With the coming episodes I think that is the most important thing to remember - that this isn't a fluffy romance. These characters are so much more scarred from their tragedy than your typical mommy/daddy issues, abandonment issues, etc. It's not going to take a passionate embrace or kiss to resolve their issues, especially Gang-do who is having auditory and visual hallucinations.

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@wishfultoki similar tragedies here in the UK too - as of recent, Grenfell tower comes to mind; the entire building caught alight, and many families lost their loved ones. The death toll increased as months went by, but to this day, there's still no charge of accountability, which is an outright disgrace considering the scale of it.

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I feel slightly bad for doing this seeing that this beanie dropped the drama, but, @hailaft is an architect and might better be able to help with the more technical questions like the rebar one maybe? 🤐

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@hades Excellent! There is also a National Geographic special on YouTube that rehashes and analyzes the disaster. Obvi not the same as JNL, though the collapsed building looks eerily similar. https://youtu.be/y8Yw9hill1k

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I gathered from what Joo Won said later, that he knew about the rebars being stolen, but that the collapse was not due to this. The impression I got was that what Gang Do's father took was too little to have made that great a collapse.

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@hades I feel really silly for misunderstanding your post and assuming you were 'this beanie' dropping the drama, instead of hailaft. I was so confused to see you still posting about it on the fanwall 😂
I should just change my username to DistractedToki.

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@wishfultoki Haha! No worries. I've survived dramas like Temperature of Love--and a few C-Dramas which have really good starts and then something(s) goes terribly wrong in the middle. I haven't been hit with the terrible middle yet, but even if it does come, I should be able to weather the storm.

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I've just caught up with this drama too (happy days!), so I'm happy to see beanies have found a place to camp out! I'm enjoying reading all the comments, guys. Many thanks!

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Welcome!

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I’m glad this thread exists as I’ve been literally dying to discuss this drama with fellow Beanies. So great job everyone! I followed all the comments in this thread.

Episodes 7 and 8 floored me in the best of ways. I watched them raw, then half subbed, then fully subbed. Again and again until I was convinced that I was obsessed. I haven’t squeeeed about an otp like this since Healer, but there’s something very elemental and organic about Moon Soo and Gang Doo that doesn’t feel at all contrived like most kdrama pairings. And makes even their tiniest interactions unbearably precious. They are fellow survivors and kindred spirits.

Some scenes made me laugh and cry simultaneously:

1) At the amusement park; Gang Doo and Moon Soo both turned away from the roller coaster because after being in a near death experience they couldn’t conceive of how anyone would flirt with danger in the name of fun;

2) Neither one of them liked the smoke from the barbecue. Kang Doo in particular. I wondered if this was another sign of his trauma like his dislike for lightning and the dark.

Although Joo Won was also a victim of the shopping mall collapse, he was never trapped underground like Moon Soo or Kang Doo. So there’s no way he can fully relate or empathize with their experience.

What’s the rule in S. Korea about step siblings? Are they allowed to date? Yoo Jin’s dad married Joo Won’s mother. So they are technically step siblings. Them having an attraction to each other feels vaguely incestuous. I’m surprised everyone in the drama seems okay with it though. Like it’s commonplace.

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I'm not bothered at all about Joo-won and Yoo-jin's attraction. They were dating before their parents got together at all, so it's not like their parents married when they were young and he grew up with the expectation that he should think of her as a sister. I think there is a law though about step siblings getting married because I remember it also being an issue in Sassy Go Go. The loophole for that one was that the guy could be moved to his mother's family registry (his parents were both alive, just divorced), but obviously that wouldn't work for either of them in JBL.

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Yes @Jig is right. JW and YJ had planned to get married but the collapse took place and maybe because YJ's family got JW's dad to take the blame, and he killed himself, YJ's father took responsibility for JW (I'm guessing) by marrying his mum.

This put the spoke in the wheel for JW and YJ so they cannot now be together legally. I feel kind of bad for them too, JW's uncertain motives notwithstanding. 😉

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I feel bad for them, although I think there's still more to their story. There were very vague hints of a betrayal by YJ or what at least felt like a betrayal to JW. The credibility of the narrators is very interesting because their history defines them and their current actions so thoroughly yet we aren't privy to all that history.

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