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Mysterious Il-seung: Episodes 3-4

These episodes are rich with backstory. We learn early on what connection our two leads have, what brought our hero to prison, and what tragedy led him down the path in the first place. It’s a lot of knowledge, and some of it overwrought, but I suspect that there are still a lot of twists and turns up ahead. And by the end of these episodes, we may even finally meet our show’s mysterious Il-seung.

 
EPISODE 3 RECAP

Escaped death-row inmate Jong-sam sits anxiously in the stolen car, stopped by the police for running a red light. The officer notes the damaged trunk—the one with the dead body in it—and moves to check it out.

Meanwhile, detective Jin-young is back at the police station requesting prints off the gun used by Jong-sam (while he was posing as detective Oh Il-seung). The gun is still wet, so it’s loaded into a dryer first before the prints can be taken.

Back on the road, the officer motions for Jong-sam to pop the dented trunk, and Jong-sam contemplates driving away as he watches the clock strike 9 P.M. There’s no need though, as the Men in Black arrive and smash into the police car with their own. They stop briefly to motion for Jong-sam to follow them, and then they speed away with the officer in pursuit.

Roll call officially starts at the prison, and there’s no signal from Jong-sam. He’s still trying to make it back, and he drives toward his secret entrance while the Men in Black lure the cops away.

To buy Jong-sam some time, his buddy Ddakji plugs the toilet so that it overflows into their cell. He struggles to keep the bathroom door shut while his cellmates and the guards try to tear him away.

The Men in Black have lost the cop and now search for Jong-sam near the hidden prison entrance, but he is unsurprisingly not there waiting for them. Instead, he’s further in the field, and he slams down a grate in the ground before making a run for the prison. Could he be hiding the body? Why?

Jin-young can’t shake the feeling that it’s Jong-sam she saw earlier, so she calls the prison to confirm that he’s still locked up.

The guards drag Ddakji over to solitary cell 2 and then head over to check in on Jong-sam in cell 1. When there’s no response, the guards open it up and find it empty. Their radio buzzes, the guard at the front desk asking them to confirm Jong-sam’s presence. They stammer, and then a drop of water falls on the radio. They look up, where they find Jong-sam wedged up near the ceiling. Whew, he made it.

The guards don’t appreciate Jong-sam’s Mission Impossible impersonation and keep him locked in solitary for another night.

With Jong-sam’s imprisonment confirmed, Jin-young moves on to her research on murderer-rapist Gil-choon. Detective Park arrives then to berate her for taking the case from the local police. The rest of the team barrel in for the meeting Jin-young has called, and she gets guff from Detective Park for that too.

She shares her thorough research with the team, and by tracking down every Song Gil-choon in the right age range, they find their suspect. They wonder how Gil-choon even managed to grab Eun-bi from a police station, and Jin-young’s tracked that info down too—in the pandemonium, the police assumed he was the detective sent to escort her into protective custody. Wow. These guys need to start checking badges.

Even with all her efforts, Jin-young hasn’t figured out Gil-choon’s connection to Eun-bi yet. Jin-young’s ears perk up when she hears Gil-choon was just discharged from Musan Penitentiary, the same one that currently holds Jong-sam.

Back in prison, Ddakji is relieved to hear that Jong-sam was able to intercede and save his sister Eun-bi. But he does wonder why Jong-sam didn’t just stay on the outside. Jong-sam knows how this game goes though, and says he had to return so that Ddakji wouldn’t take the blame. So Ddakji tells him to escape after tomorrow, when he’s released.

Jong-sam thinks back to his final moments of freedom, but even as he considered escape, he also saw how futile it would be with nowhere to go and no money. And so he returned.

Ddak-ji won’t let go of the idea of getting Jong-sam out somehow, so Jong-sam pivots and tells him about how hard it will be for Ddak-ji to adjust to all the changes in the world. Jong-sam mentions the pretty women he saw, especially the “crazy woman” he got the chance to talk to.

With time to kill in solitary, Jong-sam’s thoughts flee to 12 years ago, when he was just a teenager. This duo was still together even then causing trouble, as Jong-sam scaled the pipes of an upscale building to reach a balcony for a watermelon charm. Ddakji remained on the ground as lookout, his arm in a cast.

Jong-sam recovers the charm, but he’s surprised to find someone home. It’s Jin-young, and she’s on the phone, claiming that she left school because she was sick, an obvious lie that Jong-sam comments on under his breath.

“Can’t Take My Eyes Off of You” starts to play as Jin-young flings the balcony door open and looks out. Jong-sam remains hidden until Jin-young’s water bottle cap falls and rolls over to his feet. Their eyes lock for a moment, and then he tries to come forward, only to be struck by a full water bottle.

Jin-young calls the police, and when Jong-sam tries to leave again, she throws a potted plant at him, which shatters at her feet. Jong-sam’s eyes catch on the water and dirt that saturates Jin-young’s socks, and this teenage Jong-sam takes us back to an even earlier flashback, when child Jong-sam cried over his mother’s body in the rain.

Jong-sam advances again, but then just warns Jin-young not to hurt her feet on the broken glass, before he heads over the balcony the way he came. Jin-young refuses to let him escape and pulls him back by the hair, ha. So Jong-sam tells Ddakji to flee first.

The music resumes as Jong-sam unleashes the ultimate threat—if she doesn’t let go, he’ll kiss her. Jin-young releases him to cover her mouth and he scrambles down. Jong-sam notices he’s lost his bracelet just as Jin-young spots it caught on the balcony bars, and she taunts him with it. There’s no time to squabble though, because the police have arrived.

A lot of cops arrive, and they corner Jong-sam in an alley. He briefly considers scaling the walls out, but instead he gives himself up.

They take him to the station, where a cheeky veteran cop, Detective Kang, grills him. Jong-sam refuses to talk, so the detective sits back and falls asleep. The station empties out until just the two remain. When Detective Kang finally wakes up, Jong-sam pushes his legs off the desk to help his foot cramp, while also swiping the keys to his handcuffs.

But Detective Kang is sharp and asks for both the key and the handcuffs back, and he marvels at Jong-sam’s ability to unlock the cuffs. He then asks why Jong-sam didn’t run today, and recounts the elaborate parkour path Jong-sam could have taken. But Jong-sam points out that the nearby school would have let out, putting the school kids at risk for injury in the middle of the pursuit.

Detective Kang can’t argue with such kindhearted justification, so he lets Jong-sam go without punishment.

Jong-sam reunites with Ddakji to turn over the watermelon charm—Eun-bi’s last gift to her brother before being adopted. The boys do their celebration handshake (it seems it’s a long-standing tradition) and Ddakji points out that he’s heard Detective Kang is a super strict cop.

The boys linger in the neighborhood until night, because Jong-sam is still waiting for the “crazy girl” so he can reclaim his bracelet. Jin-young finally walks down the street, headphones blaring their theme song.

Jong-sam yanks her headphones off and demands his bracelet back, but Jin-young doesn’t cooperate until Jong-sam admits that it’s from his mother. On cue, rain starts to fall. Jin-young scoffs at that and admonishes him for behaving the way he does while wearing a gift from his mom. She does return the bracelet though, and leaves him standing in the rain.

The rain brings Jong-sam back again to the night his mother died. Caught in a rain shower, she rushed across the street to get an umbrella for her son and was struck by a car. He raced to her side, the water filling up her socks. And on her wrist is the bracelet that teen Jong-sam wears.

The next morning, Detective Kang finds Jong-sam sleeping at a playground and takes him for jajangmyun. He has an offer for him—Jong-sam can either go to jail, or work for him as an informant.

Jong-sam thinks being an informant is a dishonorable job, but when the detective asks him if he’s going to continue down his current path, he can’t help but think of Jin-young’s same accusation. Jong-sam calls for more food and tells Detective Kang to take it out of his first paycheck, making the agreement official. But first, job training.

 
EPISODE 4 RECAP

The night is long in solitary, so there’s still more backstory to recall. Teenage Jong-sam gets started on his informant training right away. Detective Kang coaches him on the art of rifling through papers, trailing people, and leaving no trace. Soon, Jong-sam’s observation skills surpass his teacher’s.

Two years later, Jong-sam is still swiping information for Detective Kang. But Detective Kang also encourages Jong-sam to study for the police academy exam so that he can have a legitimate job. Of course, informing comes first, and the detective drops Jong-sam at his next spy job at a restaurant that serves as a front for a gambling house.

Jong-sam pouts about another job, but Detective Kang promises it’ll be the last. So Jong-sam gathers intel on guests at the restaurant while working as a server, and also finds time to take his exam at the police academy.

Ddakji finds his friend at the end of a shift and gleefully presents him with the results from the police exam—Jong-sam is in the list of successful candidates. Ddakji suggests a celebration, but Jong-sam stops short when he realizes he forgot his informant phone on the sink at the restaurant.

He’s about to turn back, but fate sends him another surprise—his “crazy girl” Jin-young walks down the opposite side of the street. He hands over his keys and asks Ddakji to grab the phone while he chases after Jin-young.

Jin-young heads into the Jinsung Group building, and Jong-sam wonders if she’s got a job (oh, naïve boy). He’s almost hit by a car trying to chase after her, and the delay means he doesn’t reach her before the gate closes.

By the time he catches up to Ddakji at the restaurant, the backdoor is ajar and the lights don’t seem to work. Something seems off, and suspicions are confirmed when Jong-sam finds Ddakji cowering on the floor. Someone bashed the kid in the head and then ran off. The police knock at the front door just then, and Ddakji says he didn’t call them.

Jong-sam slips in something on the floor, and finds that something to be a pool of blood, two bodies, and a bloody knife not too far away. He urges Ddakji to run, but the police have already opened the doors and come upon Jong-sam, his hands covered in blood.

The news announces the murder victims to be a prosecutor and the restaurant owner, who had called the police right before she died. At the police station, Jong-sam tries to ask for his detective friend before he’s hauled off to the prosecutor’s office. But on cue, a younger Detective Park runs in to share that Detective Kang has gone missing.

And where is Detective Kang? He flees to his car, a packed bag in hand. Before he can get away, though, a hand stops his car door.

In the prosecutor’s office, the interrogation technique is brutal, as the prosecutor’s men kick Jong-sam over and over. The prosecutor calls for them to stop, and leans in to demand Jong-sam’s confession.

Jong-sam denies everything, until the prosecutor says that Ddakji has already confessed. The prosecutor calls for his men to turn on the lights, and Ddakji is revealed on the other side of the two-way glass. He’s beaten as well, but he says over and over that he is the killer, and just asks them not to hurt Jong-sam.

Wanting to protect his friend, Jong-sam confesses to being the sole killer. Guys, this is the worst brand of noble idiocy! Jong-sam flies into a rage and attacks the prosecutor before he’s dragged away.

At the police academy, Jong-sam’s unclaimed uniform sits at his empty desk, representing the life that could have been, if things had gone differently.

Because this is the first murder of a prosecutor, the penalties are severe. For Ddakji as the accomplice, he is sentenced to 10 years, while confessed killer Jong-sam receives the death penalty. Oh, wow.

And thus, we finally return to the present on Ddakji and Jong-sam’s long night in solitary, the night before Ddakji will be released.

The next morning, Ddakji exits the prison, but he stops first to deposit his entire earnings from the last 10 years into Jong-sam’s commissary, save money for the bus.

While Jong-sam spent the night reminiscing, Jin-young’s squad pulled an all-nighter looking for signs of Gil-choon’s trail. It’s been a long night, but the team’s maknae, Dae-woong, finally spots Gil-choon on surveillance footage. More interestingly, Jong-sam (as Il-seung) is also in the footage, and they wonder if he was an accomplice. Detective Min-pyo deems him their best lead, and Jin-young promises the results of the fingerprint test as soon as she gets them.

Their flurry is interrupted briefly by Chief Jang, who is there just long enough to reprimand the team for scooping this case from the local police and warn them not to make him look bad.

Meanwhile, the Men in Black have been busy recovering their stolen car from the lake. A few crowbars later, they are disappointed to find the trunk empty. The older man makes a call to the same chairwoman he contacted previously for guidance. She calls him in from the field so they can form a plan.

The chairwoman slips away to a secret meeting with a mysterious man, joining him in his car to discuss the Il-seung situation. It seems that Il-seung was a cop that he thought was in his pocket but ended up betraying him, and now his attempt at “fixing” the situation has been bungled by Jong-sam.

He tells the chairwoman to kill Jong-sam, and as he says it, he moves from the shadows, revealing himself as DIRECTOR LEE, head of the Future Economics Institute mentioned in the news earlier.

Ddakji makes a stop at a payphone to fulfill the one request Jong-sam asked of him before he left, to call the police and tell Lieutenant Jin Jin-young where Oh Il-seung’s body is.

And speaking of Jin-young, she’s still in pursuit of Il-seung. She goes through several police profiles with no luck, but then finds a profile without a photo that indicates that this Il-seung is dispatched somewhere.

Ddakji’s phone call interrupts her research, and she heads out with her tip.

In prison, Jong-sam is on the move for one last field trip through his escape hatch. He scales the walls and pushes through a trapdoor in the ceiling that leads to a series of vent tunnels. As he lumbers through, he falls through the floor to a different set of tunnels, these with “emergency exit” signs on the walls.

He emerges on the outside, and then hightails it back to that hatch where he did indeed hide the real Il-seung’s body. He drags the body out to the lake where he told Ddakji to tip the police, nearly rolling it into the water, ha. He apologizes to the body before he runs back to his solitary confinement cell.

But Baek Kyung is waiting at the cell door when Jong-sam drops down, to ask how he figured out the escape. Jong-sam jokes about the easy clues he left behind, but Baek Kyung is all seriousness. He asks Jong-sam, “What did you do out there? You made such a mess.”

At that moment, an assailant drops from the ceiling of the cell and knocks Jong-sam out. The masked attacker looks at Baek Kyung with recognition.

Jin-young’s unit arrives at the lake and spots the body where Jong-sam left it. They declare him dead and pull out his badge. Just as Jin-young is about to look at the ID photo, she receives a call from her fingerprint guy. And just as he’s about to reveal his information, the body on the ground coughs and rolls. Not so dead after all, and he lifts his face to reveal… Jong-sam, dressed in the dead Il-seung’s clothes.

Jin-young flips the ID, and there is Jong-sam’s face, with the name Oh Il-seung. To further confirm, the fingerprints are confirmed to match this Detective Il-seung. Jin-young and Jong-sam (now officially Il-seung) gape at one another in disbelief.

 
COMMENTS

Through quite a bit of elaborate maneuvering, Jong-sam has officially assumed his new life as a detective. But who helped swap him out and save him from his early death sentence issued by the Economics Institute director? And what does that person want from Jong-sam in exchange?

Things are a little over the top and campy at times, but it’s not unenjoyable. There are some jumps in logic and some holes in the plot fabric, but they’re not quite disruptive enough to destroy the show’s charm. I spent a lot of time yelling, “Seriously?!” at the screen, but I still want to see how everything plays out for everyone.

I think the show knows that it’s doing it too. I noticed that every gap in logic that I yelled at in the first two episodes was somehow addressed in these episodes. And while some of the explanations are ridiculous (you’re seriously telling me no one checked for a badge when Gil-choon showed up to kidnap Eun-bi?), at least they know where they’re leaving the audience in disbelief and are prepared to at least try to explain it.

These episodes were about 80 percent exposition, with the smallest amount of movement in the actual plot. They’ve set up the reason our two leads know one another, the reasons our lead knows something about police procedure, the reasons our lead was down on his luck in the first place. Most of these reasons are pretty silly, but we’ve got our structure in place. Each element of the backstory just felt a little heavy-handed and cliched. Why does it always have to be a dead mom lurking in a man’s past? I just felt like we don’t know enough about Jong-sam yet to feel any emotional punch here.

I want to say that the idea of these two kids being convicted is ridiculous, but I’ve consumed enough true crime stories to know that it’s not always about the forensic evidence. Though kicking the crap out of a kid is quite the interrogation technique. The unwavering loyalty between Jong-sam and Ddakji seems to just ensure this pair suffers the most, and I have a feeling we haven’t seen the end of it.

The backstory between Jong-sam and Jin-young, on the other hand, worked a little better for me. She’s uptight, rich, and righteous, and he’s all standoffish-yet-huggable street smarts. The two make a good pair even as young kids, so here’s to hoping that chemistry holds over to their adult selves.

I also liked how we couldn’t quite tell what kind of man Jong-sam’s mentor Detective Kang was. Was he really fleeing without offering any help to Jong-sam? Did he ever actually care for the kid, or did he just want to use him for information? It’s probably a little of both, and it makes him one of the most interesting characters so far, because he’s in that truly gray area.

I’m not quite sure about how I feel about getting all this backstory in the first week. While I hate when things drag out, I do enjoy a little mystery, especially when it comes to the motivations of my characters. If we lay everything on the table too early, the following episodes might feel too linear, just about the new cases and nothing about the circumstances that got our characters to this point. I need a good balance of both. On the other hand, I like the idea of it all pouring out of him while he’s stuck in solitary confinement. It’s the perfect time for the mind to wander and replay all of life’s tragedies.

And we’d better get an entire hour dedicated to Jin-young’s backstory as well. I didn’t mind spending the time with our affable male lead, but I really like what I’ve seen so far of our spunky leading lady, and I require equal character development time, please and thank you.

While the whole thing feels pretty silly so far, there’s been some interesting experimentation with the camera that I’ve appreciated. Some action shots have been really interesting to watch and they keep me fully invested, and the scene with the fog rolling through the field when Jong-sam considers not going back to prison was really lovely and haunting. The camera takes itself surprisingly seriously with its bizarre and goofy story, but again, I’d say the mismatch still doesn’t detract from anything yet.

Honestly, my favorite part of the show so far is the strong supporting cast. I spent the whole hour pointing out all of my favorite side characters from other shows. Our two leads are doing well on their own, but they’ll really excel with an amazing cast enhancing every scene.

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Regarding abirdword question of who swap Jong Sam & the dead detective, I think it is the Future Economics Director. When he said 'kill him' he actually meant made it look like he died in the prison and made him the detective.

I like how the writer immediately laid out how Jong Sam became a detective. The backstory blended in perfectly to introduce the main characters. I think there's more. Especially about Detective Kang. I want to believe he is a good mentor and the scene of him 'fleeing' is not really what it is.

Anyway, the young characters really resemble the adults! Good casting! The young Jong Sam's acting is also good.

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I don't like childhood flashbacks especially when it's long but in this case I enjoyed the young JS journey of learning to be a detective, as you said it blended in well.

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I felt that the pilot was much stronger in terms of plot and execution compared to this episode.
I found the backstory to be (mostly) unbelievable and cheesy (especially the Romeo/Juliet balcony scene). I found myself cringing the whole time. I also did not like the fact that Jong-sam's mother died of a car accident. It was cliche and did nothing for me to connect with Jong sam emotionally.

That being said, I do love all the characters (even the ones from the backstory). I especially love Jong-sam and I can't believe he was SO close to becoming a police! He had all the street-smarts, intellect and bravery required (and he still does) so it's sad to see him waste all those talents in prison.

I especially loved that ending scene. I have no idea how he managed to pull that off (without someone's help anyway) and I'm looking forward to finding out next week.

One more point about Ddakji. I love his relationship with Dong-sam. I can't believe how he just gave all the money to Dong-sam before leaving prison. It just shows how close they are and how much he loves his friend. I hope we see more of this later.

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I think their childhood stories weren't strong enough not be forgotten unless if there's more. I'm tired with connection of childhood connection between the leads in kdrama, but if the story is compelling enough I think it is fine.

I just wish at the end of this show -both Jong-sam & Ddakji will survive. I'm refuse to think any possibility about both of them. Please show. 🐱

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Same. I wish there was no childhood connection either. Try taking just that portion out of the whole episode. It's not like we are missing much right? So I do really wonder, what was the point of them having met as children?
Unless there is more to the story like you said. We'll see...

Oh, it's too early to think about them dying. *I also refuse to even consider this as a possibility*

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Yes, it is just a mere crush, it is pointless imo. But I remember Jin-young seems to recognize Jong-sam last epi, so maybe there's more.

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After watching many k-drama i came to believe that Korean writers have a certain template, when writing they do a check list of that template or choose one or two cliche from its cliches, but it must be one of those cliche we all familiar with, that's why almost all dramas became predictable, like we viewers wrote the script.
Even thrillers have those cliches, if you're watching Black it's unpredictable but it has the childhood connection, and all the characters are connected to each other, it's the magic of kdrama.

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No.. I will pray the show won't touch Ddakji and Jong Sam's precious friendship.. For now (and might be for the rest of the series) he's the only person that Jong Sam can consider as a family in the whole world. I don't even want to imagine a broken Jong Sam if something bad happen to Ddak Ji. Jong Sam has felt guilty enough to have Ddak Ji locked in prison for years with him..

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I'm okay with the childhood story because:
1) i'm a sucker for the tied-together-by-fate trope
2) she kinda was the one who finally set him on the right path since he'd been wandering without a purpose out on the streets at the time, and this p much cemented the fact that our Jong-sam is a good guy through and through, but just living in the worst of circumstances
3) I also like how the writer overturned my expectations of Jin-young not knowing for a fact that "Il-seung" isn't really Il-seung

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Oh, hello there @nico8

Nice to see you here in the recap 😃

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of course i'm here hehe 💖 y'all know it;s a good drama when you get the urge to discuss it with other people 👍👍

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I'm also really used to the whole 'They knew each other as kids' thing. It's inevitable for a k-drama. They have to be connected somehow in childhood.

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Thanks for recapping, abirdword! I really liked the teen actors. Like you said, lots of chemistry there. I have a high tolerance for plot holes, so I'm enjoying this.

Just FYI, this page is rendering weirdly on my phone. The very top looks formatted for mobile, the post is in desktop, about 2x too wide.

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Same thing happening with me on my phone... :/

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It happens to all Beanies I guess.

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Teen Jung Hye-sung's character looks so alike with Jung Hye-sung -maybe they are siblings lol 😆

Anddd. My boy Yoon Chan-young 😍❤ I'm not too invested with both leads' childhood connection but I love Jong-sam's backstory-how he was from a thief learnt to be a police officer but it was all ruined in one night 😭

Looking forward to see next epi especially the journey of Jong-sam to clear his name by using fake identity and also seek justice for the real Officer Il-sung.

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Teen JHS really looks so much like her i was impressed, so i made a search on the young actress it appeared that she's the same actress who played young Suzy in WYS.

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Especially their side profile, the nose looks so similar ☺

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One thing I learned about Jong-sam this episode is that he has crazy good memory. Jong-sam is able to recall all the flashbacks he was having when he was a teen! I can barely remember what I had for lunch yesterday.

I am also impressed by the South Korean police. They might not be good at checking badges or confirming identities, but when you report a burglary at least half a dozen detectives would show up to help.

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I know right! Bunch of police came to catch him LOL.
He must be a really really really good teenage thief!

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In the subtitle, detective Kang said this; "Why did you get caught today? You're a professional at running away"

I guess teenage Jong Sam was already a famous little thief with a perfect record in escape attempt. So that's why they brings the whole squad to catch him..

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I remember playing with my baby brother when he was 6 months old and I was two and a half years. I remember the shape and color of his onesie, I could draw the room in detail.

I remember the socks I was wearing when that cute idiot in class talked to me once, and never again (argyle in blue and pink). I was twelve.
I could go on, is more like a curse really......

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Maybe TPTB, like the Economic Council Pres of D00m! had it out for Jong-sam even as a kid and was already scouting him for his nefarious purposes and thus sent out an entire precinct to catch him?

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Show has our hero climbing the walls with one hand & one foot on each side. Back in my freshman year in college we did with with both feet on one wall and both hands on the other. Works great, given a hallway of the right width.

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Caught in a rain shower, she rushed across the street to get an umbrella for her son and was struck by a car.

Apparently most kdrama characters have never seen a kdrama. Look both ways. Then look up & down. Just in case.

Or just carry an umbrella if it looks like the might be a cloud within 500 miles. That's what I used to do in Taiwan. Some of the students said they thought I was English, because they associated English people with umbrellas. Nope, I'm from dry sunny Southern California and Taiwan was too rainy for me.

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Chanting : "I'm working now.. I'm working now.. I'm working now.."

(Can't resist the temptation to read the recap and join in the comment section 😆). Ah, well.. Have to wait until this evening..

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Honestly, although some parts were cliche, I feel like the writer knows what they're doing. I have faith in them for now, seeing that they're still somewhat of an experienced writer with good ratings in past dramas.

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I'm loving the leads so far and I'm glad that we also get a grey character like Detective Kang. We're not sure if he really cares for Jong-sam or if he is trying to mold him into a shady police officer a la The Departed/Infernal Affairs or a mixture of both. I would also like to know more about Jin-young, what caused her family to fall from grace and what motivated her to become a police officer. I'm hooked and this has become my newest crack drama.

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Double thumbs up for a JY backstory - although my guess is that her backstory and resolution is likely to be the main story arc. How her family lost her fortune and who was behind it? And probably some tragedy, as a guess, JY lost her father?

I think action, pace and chemistry is probably going to make or break this drama. Not yet seeing a lot of grey - just good guy vs bad guy. Plot and procedural holes abound (hooray for JY for not focusing on saving the drowning girl! way to go on your priorities!)

Seems unlikely that it was the bad guys who freed JS and changed police records to show he is Il Seung. I suspect it is probably Detective Kang who is working for some shadowy justice organization.

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I know is a bit early, but since City Hunter I haven't been so pumped after two episodes.
We all have been burn in the past, (Yong Pal is still a trigger to this day), but the direcction is confident and I'm liking the script so far.

The trite childhood conection is necessary so there's someone suspecting him all the time.

Also when the romance begins if Jin-young suspects our hero is a death row inmate, but gets to know him and like him for his acctions, it will be meaningful and earned.

And about the two kids convicted for the wrong crime, if this show established that the police database for fingerprints for a death row prisioner and a cop can be altered or switched, that level of access allows to fabricate forensics against the kids.
So happy right now with the show!.

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I enjoyed this show regardless of the plot conveniences because as @abirdword pointed out, the show is set up to be a bit campy/over the top (in good way)
However, your comments about the childhood connection and fingerprints database alteration sheds insights on what I would have dismissed as plot conveniences/typical kdrama trope at first. Thanks for sharing that!

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Lots of heartbreaking moments here (the police uniform, the drenched sock, and those lonely runaway prisoner, I've alredy spilled out my thoughts on my fan wall 😁)

and also the cuteness of the childhood backstory ! (The old background song made the scene multiple times cuter !)

I usually feel a lovey dovey scene between two leads in k-dramas (whether it's the childhood phase or the grown up version) is too cringey, unless it's coming from something that I truly love 😁 Just like this one.. So their childhood scene was just fine for me..

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Omg, I have always messed up the html code ! 😣

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They used the same child version for WWYS right?
Look forward this show, not giving any high expectation, but I love YKS

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This show needs to handle a new research team, stat. According to DB's premiere watch synopsis MC was convicted at the age of 15. I was shocked that South Korea would allow a juvenile to be sentenced with the death penalty.

Turns out they can't be - kids ages 14-20 are tried under juvenile law, where death penalty sentences are commuted to 15 years.

Also, no one has actually been killed since 1997, so the death penalty is a de facto life sentence.

So the stakes aren't really as high as the show portrays - basically the MC would have gotten out of jail in 5 years anyways.

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I think on the show it stated that Jong-sam was an informant for 2 years before he was put in jail, so he would have been around 17 to 18. Plus, I don't think you can be a cop unless you're at least 18. I think the reason why they probably dismissed all the juvenile detention laws is because a prosecutor was killed. They also mentioned that Ddak-ji, an accomplice, got 10 years because of the dead prosecutor. And just because Jong-sam has a de facto life sentence, it doesn't make it any less significant. And indeed, if they were going to give him life sentence, they'd say life sentence, but no, they threw the book at him to show the power of their justice because of the significance of killing a prosecutor.

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Like I said, I didn't get a sense of his exact age from the show, but I do know that Dramabeans said in their premier watch post that he was 15 when he was arrested, and I assume they got that summary from an official source

Also, I was saying it's not as high stakes that he got 15 years (as a juvenile) - not that he got de facto life imprisonment (which is very high stakes - I'm not callous).

I'm not well-versed in South Korean law, but I don't think there's been a case where the Juvenile Act has been set aside, though it has been debated, especially in light of some pretty horrific violent teenage crimes in the past few years.

So you could be right, but the show could have been clearer about the fact that this ruling was an anomaly overturning precedent that stretched back to the 1960s. It would have also made the conviction even more upsetting to the viewer, which I think was the goal of the show.

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I LOOOOOVED Baby Ddang-sae as Baby Jong-sam. He was really great and got Yoon Kyun-sang's mannerisms and cadence of voice down packed. I would really love for a situation where he kinda ends up being the dude who plays young Yoon Kyun-sang, kinda like how Nam Da-reum ended up being Young Lee Jong-suk's actor twice lol. Except Yoon Chang-young actually bares some resemblance to Yoon Kyun-sang. I do have to say that the flashbacks were great and this episode really got me hooked onto the series in a way the first episode didn't. It got me excited and really nailed down the emotional tension and pain of Jong-sam and Ddak-ji.

Otoh, It makes no sense that Eun-bi is still alive. Seriously. What was that? lol.

It's also great to see a lot of you guys back from Rebel viewing lol.

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Will you give us your Random Thoughts too here, @cloveredlioness ? I'd love to read them 😃

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I'll try but I'll probably have to do less because I'll have less time lol...Plus, I think this drama is going to be less writer-ly and literary than Rebel which will make it potentially easier.

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OOHHHH YOON CHAN-YOUNG YES I AGREE
it actually came to the point where i was half-sure that they had YKS dub over the part where YCY was yelling that he killed them while the police were dragging him away? they sounded exactly the same to me haha
YCY is such a great casting for a younger version of YKS huhu (even the same last name??)

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Reminds me of how YKS used to have the "voice" back in Rebel. In that he sounds so much like Amogae in some of the scenes.
And yes, YCY as the young YKS is sucha great choice! :D

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Good to see you too! I miss all of my noisy beanies fam!

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Late to the party, but another Noisy Beanie reporting for duty. ;-)

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What the first four episodes has cemented in my head is my "Gil-dong reincarnation" theory.
A good guy right down to the core? Check.
Dead mom? Check.
Actions are motivated by how much he cares about the people in his life? Check.
Here to fight against an unfair society where the people in power are abusing their position? Check.
Need I say more?

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Also highly attracted to spitfires. ;)

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Ga-ryung: slaps him
Jin-young: chucks on open water bottle and potted plant at him

well, i see he has a type ;) ;) ;)

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*gets out binoculars*

*searches the sky for WWII British fighter planes*

*waves to cloveredlioness and the rest of the Noisy Beanies*

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Plus the momentary super power ! Remember when he kicked down the huge water tank? I think he got a little help from Gil Dong's power 😉

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At this state, I believe Yun Kyun-sang himself got his own supernatural LOL

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I'm pretty sure he already has supernatural strength given the way he can lift a huge cast iron pot full of water and rice all by himself on 3MAD.

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I like your "Gil-dong Reincarnation Theory"!

I just hope we don't have to deal with reincarnated Song Sabu, Choonwongoong, Madam Park (wife of Lord Jo), and Yeonsangun. Oh, right. Who else would be the bosses of the Men in Black? ;-)

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So far, no one seems quite as dastardly as those guys. But we'll see about how Director Lee evolves.

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Speaking of "Gil-dong Reincarnation Theory," this week I encountered the "Madam Park Reincarnation Theory" while binge-watching the 2016 weekender HAPPY HOME. Seo Yi-sook, who so deliciously portrayed Lord Jo's fiendishly vengeful wife, has a gift for projecting imperiously snooty Joseon yangban women. In HAPPY HOME, she plays a highly successful designer of hanbok who's the mother of the male lead. She screws that son up just as much as she did Little Lord Fauntleroy back in Yeonsangun's reign.

I've been having serious REBEL flashbacks vis-à-vis filial piety and Song Sabu's warped take on Confucian values. Speak of the devil! Lookee who pops up around episode 40 but Ahn Nae-sang (Song Sabu) to add to the REBEL pre-reunion. Thank heavens he plays a good guy in this show. ;-)

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Random Thoughts

1. The marijuana grow-op had very CSI Miami colours. The tone and colour of the show seems to change depending on what’s happening…Flashbacks are sepia tones; throwbacky action shots tend to have this sort of mid-2000s Asian drama look to them (before they had production value budgeting lol) with cheap looking lighting; then when shots are more exposition-y and normal, they tend to look very HQ and have mood lighting.

2. The bad cop from Signal is back wearing similar colours of tan and black! Also, the cop from My Love from the Stars is here too…playing a similar-ish role? But perhaps less of a poor cop? Lol.

3. They played “Can’t Take My Eyes off of You” in the flashback and I just can’t help but be reminded of 10 Things I Hate About You. It really suits the characters. Young Jong-sam is adorable and I love his attitude. He’s somehow very suave and mature for his age and made me totally fall in love with Jong-sam. That being said, since jail is like purgatory, Jong-sam hasn’t really had a chance to grow up and mature, so while his lines to Jin-young are swoony and cute as a kid, as a grownup, he seems more childlike with the way he handles everything.

4. Of course his mom dies in a car accident in the rain. Obviously. K-drama trope 101 lol. And look at that, pathetic fallacy rain! The only thing that would have made it better would be a parking garage of some sort.

5. Officer Kang’s MO is interesting. Of course, it’s hard to know if he really was mentoring Jong-sam or just setting him up. That being said, I assume there would/should have been paperwork done regarding Jong-sam as an informant. It seems totally absurd that there wouldn’t have been that…but I assume TPTB got rid of all of that when Kang disappeared.

6. I really like Jong-sam’s backstory because it really adds credence to how an escaped convict can be so clever and one up people so easily. He’s McGuyver, Sherlock and Parkour!Houdini. He’s been on both sides of the law so he can exploit both sides.

7. The scene where both boys confess to save each other is just so sad because it’s their loyalty, youth, inexperience and lack of support that gets them in this mess. Pretty sure it’s super illegal to beat up a suspect until they confess, but a prosecutor’s been killed and there’s no other suspects besides a couple kids who make an easy target, particularly poor kids with no support from the system.

8. What I do love is that after he escapes from jail, Jong-sam gets to be the police officer he wanted to be before his future was stolen from him. He’s impersonating that which he was always meant to be. It’s so meta and interesting. (Whereas it looks like the bad cop on the take, Il-sung, will die a convict a la the previews lol) It’s kinda like the universe setting things right.

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9. I am SOOO on the Ddak-ji/Jong-sam bromance train. It was so touching when Ddak-ji gives Jong-sam all the money. Ddak-ji kinda looks like Gil-hyun aka Shim Hee-sub so they’re already brothers in my mind lol.

10. General Choi Young! The 6FD reunion I never knew I wanted lol. Or Doctors lol.

11. It’s really creepy and interesting how the prison seems to have a secret/closed down layer that’s not used anymore…I wonder if that will come into play later in the season…I mean, what better locale for the baddies to do bad things? You could even secretly introduce innocent people into the prison population and have guards etc none the wiser.

12. On that note, Baek-kyung is sooo the prison informer. Except he doesn’t have to get visits from gang members to broker alliances etc. with other gangs. (I watched Sons of Anarchy for waaay too long lol)

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Oh, and SFD reunion between Moo Hyul, General Choi Young, and big bro Lee Bang Gan ! (I can't believe he's younger than Yoon Kyun Sang 😅)

Compared to Hollywood, K-drama is such a small community where you can easily spot an actor (especially supporting role) acts in several dramas

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OMG! Lee Bang-gan is there too? Whaaaat.

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"McGuyver, Sherlock and Parkour!Houdini" oh yes!!! :D
Your random thoughts are very interesting and thought-provoking, thank you!
Also I really really like this show and hope its gonna keep up its awesomeness!
Its one of the few shows I just cant wait for subs and have to see it raw! ;)

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You said you have less time and it will be easier compared to Rebel but here you came with interesting Random Thoughts that made me think harder about the show 😊 Thanks !

I especially love your point number 6, 7, 8, and 9. Also, I really hope Detective Kang is on the good side, otherwise I'd love to hate him just like I did in Signal 😁

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Lol, no worries.

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Thanks for your recap and comments, abirdword!

I'm all aboard for another touching bromance now that MAD DOG is over. The prisoners' kiddie and teen back stories are fine by me. The child and teen actors turned in great performances. I especially liked how Jong-sam convinced Jin-young to let go of his hair by threatening to kiss her. Pfft! ;-)

Just like in BLACK, we have another macrame bracelet, this time from Mom. The red one in BLACK reminded me of the OST from REBEL. ;-)

Kdrama Special Physics strikes again when it comes to demolishing filled water tanks from the inside with pistol fire. LMAO. We all know it was the Mighty Child kicks that did the trick. ;-)

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The teen actors look good together.

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