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Open Thread #528

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Hello Beanies! Only four Fridays left before it's 2018!

Early this year I had several dramas on my to-watch list, like Misaeng, SUFBB, and Chicago Typewriter. Fast forward to now and they're STILL on my watch list! I'm terrible at this.

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This totally happens. Don't get yourself down about it! It's the same with me. My "To Watch Later" list is waaaaay too long, and forever getting longer, but I can only get to it from time to time.

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my to-watch list only gets longer, never shorter! I can't even remember when was the last time I crossed something off my list. XD

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Ugh, this is me. I have all of these older shows I want to watch on my list, but I keep getting distracted by currently airing shows (it's so much fun to watch and discuss with everyone else watching).

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Wow. 4 Friday's to 2018...thats an interesting way to put it!

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Hehe, I only ticked Misaeng off my to-watch list last Christmas. You won't regret SUFBB or CT either.

Ooh, this reminds me I have to make a to-watch list for these holidays. Sageuk binge time! *happy dance*

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I have several lists. Every time I find one in my mess there is that aaah moment, that the list is even longer then I thought.

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@Astrojoy,

I watched the first two episodes of SHUT UP FLOWER BOY BAND last week to get a gander at Lee Min-ki in guyliner. Omo!

I watched MISAENG about a year or so ago, methinks. Excellent! But kind of bleak, so don't watch it if you're already bummed out. Just my $0.02. ;-)

CHICAGO TYPEWRITER got such good press here at DB that I should add it to my to-watch list. I don't think I'll be able to get to it before the end of the year, but you never know. Yoo Ah-in is hot stuff in my book. ;-)

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Thankfully I learned he's only a cameo in it, so I won't get too shocked after episode two. Whew!

Misaeng I stopped halfway, because yes, it's definitely not the ideal drama to watch when you're in a down mood. I'll save it for when I'm more emotionally prepared to appreciate it <3

I actually loved Chicago Typewriter but had to stop because of internet issues! Gah. I'm most excited to finish this one!

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Hi Beanies! Happy Friday!

Dropping in to say hi and yes I’m still alive 😂 I’m in a total drama slump right now. A deep long one. And it’s probably also because I’m in a bit of a slump in my real life as well. Thanks to some less than stellar news about the Boy.

But what has helped and what I want to share about this OT is this amazing life changing revelatory book that I’ve come across.

The Reason I Jump: the Inner Voice of a Thirteen Year Old Boy with Autism is a book written by this then 13 year old non verbal Autistic boy called Naoki Higashida, and translated into English by David Mitchell (author of Cloud Atlas) and his Japanese wife.

That’s right. He is non verbal. His mother and therapists managed to find a way for him to communicate using a Japanese keyboard. It’s mind blowing that a previously barely vocal boy was able to write a whole book!

It provides amazing insight into the mind of an autistic child and essentially answers questions that people have, and debunks all the myths of autistic children and shows that their minds are just as curious, emotional and complex as you or I.

I can’t say enough good things about this book. Except to recommend it to everyone to read.

To quote Naoki: “You can’t a person by their looks. But once you know the person’s inner self, both of you can be that much closer. From your point of view, the world of autism must look like a deeply mysterious place. So please, spare a little time to listen to what I have to say. And have a nice trip through our world.”

All my thoughts (because there are too many) and some of my favourite pages are in my blog. Even if you don’t have time to check out the book, I hope you will at least pop by and have a quick read.

Have a great Friday everyone 😊

https://mydramalesslife.wordpress.com/2017/12/01/if-you-could-only-read-one-book-this-december-holidays-the-reason-i-jump/

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I was actually thinking about you this morning driving to work. I'm so sorry to hear about your news. I don't talk about it much here, but autism is near to my heart and family as well. I will have to check out your book. I have a couple autism spectrum books on my list to read. I find that words and writing are an amazing outlet for those on the spectrum. There is so much going on in their minds that want desperately to get out. A peds endocrine friend of mine just had an IEP (individualized education plan) for her son, also on the spectrum just last evening, and then had a conference call with me and PICU doc on the way home from it! She's an amazing mother and I suspect you are too. So, for you and her and so many others, "Fighting!"

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Thanks Ally! Do read the book, it isn't long and it's really an eye opener. I loved it. If your friend hasn't read it, please recommend it to her too! I find I am just that little bit more patient with the Boy after reading it, and I appreciate the little things that he does do alot more too. :)

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This is such a wonderful recommendation, michy, thanks!
I read your blog and loved the pages you showed us so I already asked my friend to get it for me ^^
Also, I just want to tell you that one of my friends has mild autism, and she finished her PhD last year (she even won an award!) and is currently working as a scientist.
I must say I did notice something was different when I met her, and it took a while to get used to how we related to each other (since, as Naoki explains it, she sometimes doesn't want to bother others, and I sometimes couldn't understand why she wouldn't talk to me) but with time, we managed to create a nice and understanding relationship. It has been the same with her other friends; it takes some time adjusting, but then everything just comes together...so, even when you're his mom and that's basically a mom's job description, try not to worry about such things in the Boy's future, he'll be OK and will have a nice circle of friends that will understand and support him always!

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Thanks natzillagorilla! :)
Thanks for the encouraging story about your friend. It's so wonderful to know that there are warm and loving people who are willing to be friends with others even though they seem "different" initially.
I won't ever stop worrying I suspect, but I will try to do it a bit less! ;)

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That's part of being a mom - we worry about our children for the rest of our lives, no matter what their situations are! I hope you'll be feeling better soon.

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Aww, sorry to hear you're in a slump. I hope things take a more positive turn soon.

I've heard about the book! I've also heard about Naoki Higashida! It wasn't that long ago that I saw a documentary on the NHK (Japanese) channel called "What You Taught Me About My Son". The documentary is about David Mitchell revisiting Naoki. Apparently this is sequel, but I never watched the first part. It was very, very interesting and eye-opening. ..... I don't know if it's available to stream on NHK's "On-Demand" platform, but it might be. Definitely watch it if you can.

Sending best wishes to you and your son. Have a great Friday also! :)

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Oooh I will look into that. Right now I am cramming for my Korean lesson tomorrow since I've been super distracted by the book. XD

Naoki actually has a follow up book to this one called "Fall down seven times, get up eight" and I am trying to get my hands on it. I can't wait to read it and I will share it here once I have!

Thanks for your well wishes :) Have a great weekend!

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Here's wishing you all the very best. I honestly hope you'll have the patience and strength to look at this in the most positive way possible. I pray your current situation is made easier. Fighting Onnie!

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Thank you! :) It is just that bit easier, thanks to the love and well wishes I get from the Beanies like yourself here. Have a good week ahead nanabot!

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You too, Have a lovely weekend and then a lovely week as well!

If theres anything we can do to help here, I'm sure a lot of us beanies would love to. ^^

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Thanks for your recomendation, @michykdrama, this one sounds great.

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Welcome! 😊 have a good weekend and hope you enjoy reading it as much as I did.

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Aloha, @Michykdrama!

How amazing! My copy of THE REASON I JUMP is sitting right next to me. I don't know why I never thought to mention it to you. I'm so glad you found one of your own. I stumbled across my copy at a bookstore near a Waldorf school a couple of years ago.

Speaking of which, I suspect that Waldorf education's approach to nurturing the whole child might be of benefit to Ryan. There is a movement education modality called "curative Eurythmy" used in Waldorf schools that might be of great benefit to him. "Speech Eurythmy" may also be of value. In recent years, Waldorf schools have opened in the PRC and other parts of East Asia.

I first encountered Waldorf education when studying Biodynamic gardening about 20 years ago. Eurythmy classes were part of our gardening curriculum. They were fascinating, and got us clodhoppers moving with surprising grace. ;-)

The Otto Specht School is located near New York City, and serves students with various developmental disabilities. Their website has some fascinating videos. I fervently hope you find information that is of help to your dear Boy. ;-)
https://www.ottospechtschool.org/

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Thanks pakalanapikake! I’ll check that out and see whether they have anything similar here. 😊

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@Michykdrama,

You might be able to get information on Eurythmy and special education from the Waldorf Steiner Education Association Singapore. If anyone would know about it, it should be them. ;-)

http://www.waldorfsingapore.com/

Cheers!

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I also want to mention one of my heroes: Temple Grandin, PhD. In addition to her first-person writings on autism, she is also a renowned designer of low-stress cattle transport and handling systems. Because she is autistic herself, she sees the world the way cattle do. Hubby and I drove down to the Baltimore Aquarium to hear her speak about 10 years ago. Fascinating speaker. She's written numerous books on autism as well as animal science.

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I read that book. As a special needs teacher at a special school the thing that has always stuck with me is how at playtime if you don't know different ways to play it is not much fun. Our school makes a real effort to teach play skills. It is summer where I live and yesterday we had tubs of water and the fire hose going and communication symbols and the kids were laughing and laughing as they got squirted with water (pressure good) and one boy was realising with growing delight he could request and get.

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Watching Untouchable. Hard to believe Kim Sung-Kyun is the same goofy dad from Reply 1988.

Watching C drama Let’s Shake It. Thank you to the folks at A Virtual Voyage for subbing this and making it available.

Also watching Tribes and Empires. Like it so far. The visuals on this show are stunning.

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How is Untouchable? I've only watched a clip or two so far but I keep reading positive things about it.

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It picked up considerably by the end of episode 2. Gangsters, Cops, crooked cops, scheming gangsters, bro vs bro, dead spouse, who dunnit, revenge or justice, who is out smarting who.

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Whao that seems like quite a bit! Hahaha

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It is more of the political intrigues that sucked me into it. Cops, gangsters and whatnots are pretty standard fare by more of the action / thriller drama but throw in the political intrigues, maaan...that is another layer...

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Kim Sun Kyun was frighteningly deadly in Phantom Detective... he's such a versatile actor!

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Hello beanies.
I posted this on my wall but as I'm very curious I'm posting it here too.

I Bing-watched Go Back Couple this week. I LOVED it but I won’t go into much details because I have read the comments and know that I’m in the minority in WHY I loved the show😁

Anyway, I have a question about the last episode:

At the end of the last episode we see dr Hyun-suk in a restaurant cheating on his wife again. Then he sees Ye-rim.

Now here is my interpretation of that scene. He looked so absolutely dumb-founded and kept staring at her in such a confused way that I thought he somehow kinda remembered the alternate timeline where she was his wife. He was definitely much more surprised than having only met his ex after nearly 20 years.

And Ye-rim too, looked much too smug for someone who has only made a brief eye-contact with his boyfriend of two decades ago.

I LOVED that last slap of karma for the doc soooo much 😁. But then I read the recap and comments and it looks like nobody had that impression except me? Anyone?

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Hi Midnight,
Actually, the thought did sort of pass through my mind about the doc and Ye Rim. This and the fact that even Nam Gil sort of gave Jin Joo an extra meaningful look although only at her back. I did wonder if this was a slight nod to the fact that there was an alternative, and that those characters sensed it. But as it was never made explicit, it's just a guess and what I'd like to imagine those looks or expressions meant.

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Oh my Me too! I recently just binged go back couple and thoroughly enjoyed it! Its funny how it didnt catch my eye while it was airing.

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I unfollowed an EXO fan account on Twitter just because he/she is butthurt over Wanna One's winning Best Male Group. That was the only fan account I followed on my social media. Just another reminder why I am really not into Kpop and the fandom life nowadays. :(

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Hey, I'm also not really into the kpop life nowadays, albeit for different reasons. But your comment reminded me of something I discovered this morning. A fellow-kdrama-watching-friend of mine has a younger sister who doesn't really appreciate kdramas....
And now.....
Due to their popularity....
She has fallen into the abyss of BTS ㅠㅠ

It's funny because she and her sister share a room and so while before she used to be the one to put up with her sister watching kdramas (which she could acty watch once in a while) now her sister has to reeaallyy put up with her watching kpop!

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I love that these forms of entertainment are gateways. K-dramas are what got me into K-pop. I loved Do Kyung Soo in It's OK, That's Love and seeing him do Running Man with Jo Jung Suk endeared the heck out of me. I decided to see what EXO was all about. It's super easy once you have an entry point of one member of the group + tumblr.

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Hello Beanies,
The only thing that I am currently watching is Untouchable.....I am so sold on the complicated God father dynamic we have here at play. This year has hit me with drama slump really bad. So, I am glad to have found the show. Kyung Soo Jin, I knew she was good but man, this drama, she is really owning her character here. Jin Goo and Kim Sung Kyung are such a delight to watch on screen playing with darker character yet they have layers and shades. Although I have been whining about good rom-com, turns out thrillers are attracting me more this year. Anyway, hopefully the show will be recapped here. Still waiting on Wise Prison Playbook and have decided maybe I should binge watch later instead of waiting every week.
Also, yay for Crystal Liu for getting cast as Mulan, I really like her and I think she'll do the role full justice.

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I'm going to start Untoucheable a bit later but yeay for Kyung Su-jin, I wish she stays longer. She wasn't really in my radar but WFKBJ changed my opinion about her a little, and now I really like her in Meloholic. Recently watched her drama special with Choi Woo-shik, My Fantastic Funeral and I love her in this drama. She is an actress that I will keep following for her future works. Hope she will appear in many projects.

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와...안녕하세요 여러분.

In truth I'm adding this as an afterthought after writing my OT post but I wanted to put it in here:

If possible could you take 5 minutes out of your time to sign and share this petition? I dont know how many of you have heard about the current situation in Libya, But this is sad and inhumane and it has to stop. People are literally being sold for around 400 dollars. I cannot even. This petition is to help raise awareness and urge higher authorities to do something about the situation.

Here's the link down here:

https://www.change.org/p/stop-migrants-becoming-slaves-in-libya-close-the-slave-markets?recruiter=838368097&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=share_facebook_responsive&utm_medium=whatsapp

Thank you for your time.

How was your week? 
-Did you eat yummy food?
-Did you write any tests?
-What about exams?
-Did you finally stand up to that person who was pissing you off?
-Were you able to get that important issue off your mind by adressing your roomate about it? (this is me right here hahaha. I was able to!!!)

My week was pretty uneventful. I didn't go to classes for 2 days - my teacher told us not to come. And I missed a lecture because I actually FORGOT about it (I'm amazing aren't I? Sigh...)
Anyway, I've been gaining a lot of weight these days which I don't like so I decided to start cutting the excesses out of my diet. Starting with drinks. Nothing but water - I decided to start a 30-day water challenge on Wednesday.

However, guess what I did yesterday beanies?
I totally forgot and drank coffee.
Sigh...

I had already poured the coffee powder in the cup and everything (it was sachet coffee - just needed to add hot water). I took it because i didn't want to waste it. However, I have continued on this journey. No liquids but water for the next 30 days! Fighting!

What did you guys think of BTIMFL ending?

Ah, on "Are You Human Too?". I was in shock at the production costs! That's a looot of money! Just wow, how is this drama gonna be?
Gong Seung-Yeon though...**cough** I like that girl.

Moving on - so in December: shows being anticipated by me :
- I'm not a robot.
- Just Between Lovers
- Bad Guys

Yup - those so far...Though I don't know which will  hold my attention. Of the recent slew of dramas the only one that held me was BTLIMF. Which is funny because I wasn't even gonna check it out. I was angling more toward Temperature of Love, Witch's Court and Mad Dog...but it was the drama which I just happened to read the recap of that had me hooked so idk.

Ah! If we move over to Japan though -
Has anyone watched the movie "Himizu"?
What did you think?
It was a movie I had to watch in 2 sittings (And in honesty that's me with most movies these days - Idk why I just cant sit to watch them at once and get it over with). And when I finally did...Oh my I shed a few tears at some points. The children's situations were so sad...But the...

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Hi Everyone!

I hope you are all doing well today.

This week:

Temperature of Love - Ok, so I'm at the part where Hyun-soo meets with Jung-sun's mom, even after he asked her not to. I know many of the viewers went after Hyun-soo for that, citing how it was a betrayal on her part. While I can't argue with that fact, what also came to mind was the societal and family hierarchy, and the rules that go with them, which are the parameters Hyun-soo has to navigate in. It doesn't matter whether Jung-sun's mother is narcissistic and emotionally manipulative or not (which she is), Hyun-soo will always be on the losing end of any interaction with his mother that includes any disregard for respect or required attention as defined by the culture. ..... Jung-sun has more flexibility, being his mother's child, to actually establish a distance between him and his mother but even he runs into problems because his personal needs as an emotionally wounded person clash with filial expectations. If he runs into trouble in the attempt to avoid his mother how is Hyun-soo expected to be successful? ..... Could Hyun-soo be more crafty in dealing with his mother? She could try, but she doesn't have that in her. One look at her upbringing, her parents and her dynamic with her family are indication enough. We (along with Jung-sun) all know what we want Hyun-soo to do and what she should do because his mother and people like her are psychologically toxic, but Hyun-soo, as well as Jung-sun are kind of between a rock and a hard place.

Witch's Court - Well, at least we didn't get some last minute reveal that Ma Yi-deum is Jo Gap-soo's daughter!

Mad Dog - I still haven't watched the last two episodes. I'm just hoping nothing fatal happens to our Mad Dog Team!

While You Were Sleeping - Ok, so, I suddenly have questions regarding the dreams .... courtesy of junior cop in the future. By the way, good twist in the story with only 3 episodes left for me to watch!

That's all for now. ...... Take care everyone and have a great Friday!

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You too, take care!

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I finished watching Delightful Girl Chun-hyang two weeks ago. It was my first time watching the drama, a drama from 2005 that I watched in the late 2017. I can't really explain what's so special about DGCH that now, two weeks after I watched the last episodes, I still can't get it out of my mind. I'm still daydreaming about Mong ryong and Chun-hyang and writing their fan fiction. Latest dramas are better in many ways but many of them didnt left much impression like DGCH. Once again I tell you, I first-watched it in 2017. I expected I wouldn't enjoy it much, but here I am.
PS: I dropped BTIMFL few weeks ago and still haven't picked it up. I'm not sure I can enjoy it after watching the balad of chun-hyang and mong-ryong

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That drama is on myt o watch list but i never seem to remember it! Sigh...its really good right?

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I can't explain why it's good, but it works for me.

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I have a couple episodes left of Delightful Girl Chun-hyang . I like it. I enjoyed seeing Han Chae-young as the lead. I had seen some of her later dramas where she was usually the opposition for the OTP. It looks like she has a K movie out for a few months. She had been working on C dramas and movies.

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That's the strange feeling we get from classic drama - we know kdrama nowadays have better quality but somehow these classics gave some unexplainable good feeling. Glad to hear it from someone who watched it for the first time, because I always thought that maybe because I watched these drama at that time, so that's why I regard them as something precious. I could rewatch classic romcoms like My Girl, Delightful Girl, My Name is Sam-soon etc etc without getting bored.

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Hmmm. I have a very different opinion. I also recently watched DGCH and didn't care for it to the point I couldn't finish the last few episodes. I don't understand all the raving about it. I am sure if I watched it when it was new I would have loved it. I thought Han Chae-Young did a very poor job in the drama and by the middle of the drama she was barely emoting, boring and frustrating. Uhm Tae-Woong's character was also creepy and too extreme. The plot was bad. Mong-ryong drinks a whole bottle of wine thinking it is juice. Unless he has absolutely no taste buds who on this planet would ever mix up juice with wine, even if you have never tasted wine before? And then they are forced to get married because they happened to fall asleep in the same bed together. Ridiculous and totally juvenile plot to try and get the characters together. I'm glad you enjoyed it but it personally wasn't a drama for me.

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I realize the show have so many weakness. Why on earth an almost 30 year old business man obsess with a high schooler? Where's chun-hyang's mother when the situation got so bad that she need to hide from the world? And marrying two high-school students just because they accidentally spent the night together? On paper it's so bad and it wont work nowadays. If it's not because I put on hold watching on-air dramas so I can watch them later in one go, I wouldn't go to illegal streaming site and stumbled upon Delightful Girl Chunhyang. Like Ms Sera said above, there's unexplainable good feeling from old romcom dramas, if it works for you.

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I loved that Drama. And I thought the historical parodies at the end of each episode were the BEST PART!

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Those and reference to pop culture. The full house and Romeo+Juliet aquarium' scenes made me fell off my chair 😂

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OT week 43! It’s officially the holiday season here and it’s a gorgeous, sun-shiney, blue-sky day today in my neck of the woods (literally) and I’m in the best mood! (Can you tell?) I hope to rub some of it off here on dramabeans today.

Every year, my husband and I write Christmas letters to our friends and family. It started before the kids were born, and it was the only time of the year I indulged in writing. My husband didn’t really like what I wrote that first year, so wrote his own letter and we’ve been sending both ever since. Mine is factual, didactic, as he would say, while his is humorous and entertaining. I’ve been telling you all that I’m really the serious one, and not very funny, and this annual Christmas letter proves it. Well, this year, he wrote a kdrama summary based on our lives this past year. It’s. HILARIOUS. Unfortunately, only a handful of people will understand it, and I’ll probably put it on an open thread with parts redacted as to be more anonymous as we get closer to Christmas.

Along with the Christmas letter, we take our annual Christmas card picture. And this year it was on the beach in Florida. I know, stereotypical. But there I was, the last day we were there, making everyone wear white shirts and blue pants, meeting on the beach at sunrise for the right lighting, freezing our feet off because sand is freaking cold at 6 am, snapping photos. And they are so pretty, I must say. I need to live on a coast at some point of my life, I’ve decided.

Otherwise, this week was about BTLIOF, and the finale. I really loved this show, almost everything about it. It probably is second to Goblin in my very small list of favorite dramas. I even liked the last two episodes. Ji-Ho reacted very similarly to how I reacted in a previous relationship. Except, unlike the kdrama, my guy didn’t pine for me when I left, at least I don’t think he did, because we never spoke again. I’m not even sure where he is now. For those of us who have been in love or even liked a person that they thought cared for them immensely, maybe more than once, the vulnerability that that causes is inexplicable to those who have not. You have one heart and getting it broken sucks, really sucks. And you’re selfish with that heart and you don’t want it broken, so you leave before you get in too deep sometimes, especially when you are not sure about if the other person is as in love as you are. Sometimes shows will show us more than what the other protagonist knows, and it’s confusing to see why they would act that way, but that’s reality. This show was organic, too realistic at times, and so thought-provoking, but everyone gets their “happy ending.”

Short convo with the hubby while watching Ep 15:

Me: OMG, OMG, OMG, his hand is on the handle. Why doesn’t he *($&# go in???

Hubby: Because he’s scared.

Me: Of what?

Hubby: Of all of it. Letting her in, loving her, having her love him, hurting her, being...

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... vulnerable. Everything that is bound to happen when he opens that door, both figuratively and literally.

Me: Oh… *Just looking at my hubs and in awe of this man that I married who is so much more emotionally with it than I am*

Moral of the Story: BTLIOF is the first slice- of- life drama that I felt was true to my previous real-life.

2nd Moral: I didn’t mention, but I got my Goblin Cds in from the DB shop! Finally! After over a month! But I got it!

3rd Moral: Happy Holidays, you’ll be seeing a more annoying, happier me in the threads because I love this time of year!

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Y'know I dont think I've ever been tired of reading you and your husband's convos on here, they're so cute!

And you do seem really happy! That's nice to hear (or should I say -
read lol)👍

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Ah! Also if you dont mind me asking, are you in the medical field?

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Yes, I am! My Fridays are my "slow" days, only have 1/2 clinic today and start early, mainly just follow up appointments, so it's usually an easier day as well. I'm almost done for the day and I can enjoy the open thread.

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I sometimes think my conversations might get tedious and annoying, so I'm glad you like them! I like sharing them with you!

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Yes. Keep posting them. And points to your hubby for "getting it"

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I saw the post on your wall about your DB Shop package. I'm so glad you finally received your cd's after the long wait!

Have a great holiday season!

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I was beyond excited! And now, it is "saved" on my car's hard drive for me to enjoy, and back in the pretty box. Something cool is that there is a libretto included and a little book with the characters with all their signatures, including Gong Yoo's! I'm almost embarrassed of how long I spent staring at it.

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I love this time of the year as well (Thanksgiving, Christmas, and new year)! I wish you a joyous and blessed season :)

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I think the whole world is a happier place this time of year--not always true, but in my reality it is!

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Haha. So fun to read and "see" you spazzing while in a good mood :) I really need to get off my ass and watch BTLIOF. And take Christmas family pictures! And maybe finally write that Christmas letter I have always wanted to do, but never got round to. LOL.

So happy you got your CDs! I still havent opened mine from Korea, I just take it out once in a while, sigh at the pretty and then pack it back in the bag again. haha.

Happy Holidays Ally!

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That's why I thought of you this morning! I was listening to it in my car and thought, "Wonder if Michy is enjoying her CD's!"

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So I tried the new shows this week, and I am passing on “Doubtful Victory”, it is just too ridiculous, and it looks cheaply produced.

I am on the verge of dropping “Nothing to Lose”, I like the actors and the characters are interesting, but I can’t suspend my disbelief concerning the court proceedings/scenes. If this were a romance/thriller and not a legal drama it would’ve been a lot better.

This week’s surprise was “Two Cops”, I really didn’t think I would like it but checked it out of curiousity, but I ended up enjoying the first 2 eps, especially the romantic moments between the heroine and the switching hero. I am interested to watch more for now.

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Am I the only one who feels that year end is a stressful period? It's the time of the year I go for a longer holiday and all the planning, arrangements, preparation, packing tire me out before the holiday even starts. Work acts up too and throws up stuff that needs to be dealt with before you go away. Then there's Christmas gatherings, food, gifts etc etc.

It's an oxymoron - I have no time but all the more I need a drama! But I am in a drama slump. Not watching anything now that Go Back Spouses, Revenge Club and BTLIOF ended. I've just tried half of the 1st ep of Wise Prison Life and may continue.

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I'm crazy, but I love the decorating, the parties, the shopping (which I only do on-line anymore), the stress, and everything else that comes with this time of the year. I get more done in the 6 weeks between Thanksgiving and New Years than I get done all year and feel a HUGE sense of accomplishment when it's all finished. It's definitely an adrenaline rush for me.

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Hahaha...that's one way to look at it! I'll try it 😉

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Hi all. Happy Friday! I haven't started watching Go Back Couple yet (it's on my ever expanding list!), but I'm so happy Son Ho Jun is doing well. I loved him even more after Youth Over Flowers and am happy every time he pops up. He's part of the reason I'm bingeing Three Meals a Day. Yay!

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Go Back Couple is a must watch! Definitely try to watch it!

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Good morning! Hope this has been a lovely week for everyone. Not much on my plate thankfully. I'm excited for the weekend.

While You Were Sleeping Finished this over the Thanksgiving weekend. It was cute and I actually liked Suzy in this (first drama I could stand her in). But there was something missing from the drama. I'm not even sure what it was. I almost wish the drama spent more time on dreams and the 3 dreaming musketeers trying to stop the events from happening. I loved this writers other works (I Can Hear Your Voice is one of my favorite dramas) but this one was sadly kinda forgettable.

Because This Life Is Our First Finally started this now that the drama has ended and it's sooo cute so far. I'm only 2 episodes in but I am loving these weird and quirky characters and excited to see where they go together. The contract marriage happened very quickly and almost gave me whiplash! I have nothing planned this weekend so I will spend it watching this.

Ho-Gu's Love I have very mixed feeling about this drama. It had cute moments but also some very distressing moments. It distressed me how people reacted to a single mother. Is it a crime in Korea to be a single mother? And horrible how she is considered undateable because she has a child. I also found Ho-Gu's weird stalker tendencies to be creepy when I know they were supposed to come off as cute. Instead of asking Do-Hee for answers he would follow her secretly instead. I was also very unhappy how there was no resolution to the rape and it was barely touched upon and almost turned into a comedic situation at the end. It was however sadly very realistic I just wish the drama gave a good and satisfying resolution. Do-Hee and Ho-Gu were cute with each other though and despite his creepy stalker tendencies, Ho-Gu was a wonderful man for Do-Hee, both loving and supportive. I did watch this whole drama and I'm not exactly sure, because there were a lot of things in the drama that really bothered me. I also don't like babies so the drama focusing so heavily on a baby wasn't that entertaining to me. I think I stuck around because the drama wasn't bad and had some cute moments and the acting was good so it would be a drama people would like.

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On Ho-Gu's Love.

In S Korea, single motherhood (perhaps other than being a widow) and being a celebrity is unheard of. And it is, I believe, more conservative than say Japan, China, Taiwan and Singapore on this issue. (this assertion is debatable)

I think what amazed me, given the cultural context, is that the writer dared to make the resolution of the rape the final climactic moment of the drama. (if I recall correctly) This is already a very touchy subject in general (for a rom-com drama) and to make the real life issues surrounding the crime so central is astonishing.

The drama isn't perfect and probably suffers from being a little bit ambitious in the number of subject it touches without painting it in black and white. But I have yet to see another supposed rom-com k-drama be as daring and human in approaching: single motherhood, abortion, rape, sexual identity, adoption, bullying, career vs motherhood, self worth vs career. Even listing it, you'd think - "how could this be a comedy?" And yet it doesn't turn dark or too angsty. Nor does it play everything off lightly or make things too easy.

And Do-Hee, love or hate her decisions, remained central to the drama. Ho-Gu is the fool with the black and white ideals but Do-Hee is the person that lives the situation. I have actually yet to see another rom-com (maybe BTIOFL - same writer) with that much agency given to the female lead.

This is a must watch just for the reasons I gave. It isn't even a dark-comedy or satire. It is emotionally and situationally grounded.

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Glad to have found someone who likes I Can Hear Your Voice too. The similarity of the premise of WYWS and ICHYV has actually hindered me to watch WYWS. Adding the writer and Jong Suk are both there too. But I tried watching it. Jong Suk's character seems to be funny.

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Heeh. I'm avoiding Kdrama finales (Temperature of Love, Because This Is Our First Life and Witch's Court)

... and binge-watching Cdramas instead. I just finished LOVE O2O and have become truly, madly, crazy, deeply in love with Yang Yang. This man is just too beautiful *A* . How can one look so pretty and manly at the same time? He makes me feel things... beautiful things. I find myself daydreaming about him at work XD LOL I can't seem to skip this phase whenever I find an attractive actor in dramas.

I'm also watching A LOVE SO BEAUTIFUL, which reminds me of IT STARTED WITH A KISS but with a tamer, less jerk of a male lead. Totally hooked in the light high school drama going on. Sigh, I found the reason why I'm skipping Kdrama finales, I'm not in the mood for angst, drama... I am in desperate need for light, cheesy, totally cliché moments now.

That's all for me. Have an awesome weekend, everyone!

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You...you watched love 020...

*inhales

Aaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

Yknow I normally cannot stand C-Dramas. Taiwanese dramas yeah but C-Dramas have always been a big nope for me (even though I enjoy their novels). But I really enjoyed what I watched of love 020 (I tend read if I hv the option and I'd actually started the book of love 020 before realizing there was a drama. So I finished the book instead.)

The adaptation was so true to the source tho!

Have you watched The General and I?

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Yes... yes, I watched LOVE O2O *A*

/breathes/

AAAAAAAHHHHHHH indeed! /<---basically my reaction the whole time Yang Yang was on screen/

As for Cdramas/Tdramas, I have no problem watching them as long as I find the male lead attractive and his character tolerable enough for me to flail over (I'm easy, just give me pretty main leads and I'll watch anything) XD I've heard of the book but I haven't seen a posted English translation online (I need to dig deeper on the web). I've read a few chapters of the manhwa though. It's soooo visually appealing *A*

I just checked General and I. I rarely watch historical dramas though :( I'll try a few eps and see how it is! Thank you for the recommendation <3

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@chakhanseupeu Sorry i just saw your response - aahh seeing as you do watch Taiwanese dramas, do you like Aaron Yan? Did you watch Fall in Love With Me?

And the General and I....it wasn't a recommendation!!! Alas - it was not true to the source material ㅠㅠ

I mean, nice adaptations can be made without sticking to the source b-but...this one - it just went too far left.
The book was the first chinese novel I read and I reaaally enjoyed it so I guess the adaptation reeally disappointed me - i didnt even go far with it.

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So glad to hear there's a fellow bingewatcher of Love 020! I just finished it; t was a perfect antidote for me, a light happy romcom that happens to include a drop dead gorgeous lead....can you recommend others?

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@beantown Oh yessss! /high five/ I enjoyed the light, happy moments, and of course our too good to be true Yang Yang *A* He's seriously good looking. Ugh. He nails every camera angle in the drama. Like hOOOOWWW?!??!

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@chakhanseupeu 😁😁😁😁my reaction the whole way through Love 020....idk how he does it, he is seriously PERFECT I'm diving back in for a rewatch!!

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Yang yang!!!!! I too fell in love with him because of Love O2O.

You can consider watching the movie version of the drama, but it has Jing Boran and Angelababy as the leads instead. Loved Angelababy’s portrayal! Was too biased and in love with Yang Yang tho so... 😝

Also, you can read the English translated version of the Novel the drama was based on.very similar to the drama. Let me know if you can’t find it and I’ll try to dig up the link. 😊

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I find Jing Boran adorable buuuut I think for now, no one can really replace Yang Yang's characterization of Xiao Nai, so I'm gonna delay watching the movie version.

I haven't seen the translated version of the novel when I randomly searched for it. I'll try again and if I didn't find it, I'll come begging for it XD

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I really liked Love 020 for the lightness and warmth but was really irked by the treatment of the female lead.

She was the top student in her Comp Sci class in university but they kept going on and on about her beauty.

Then as the (all guy team - maybe one year her senior in university?) team was working on their game product, she is relegated to visual candy, girlfriend material and secretarial support. Her supposedly being a great student in the same field plus being an ace gamer was completely ignored and downplayed.

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@tummy - Yes, I was a bit disappointed that they didn't make use of her supposedly smart brain in that arc. I kept waiting for her to show off her computer skills and was left hanging and bummed out that she ended up being a glorified secretary for the team :( Talk about wasted talent.

And speaking of something being wasted, I think Yang Yang's kisses were wasted in all those kissing scenes. He clearly knew what he was doing (omg camera angles) but ugh... lack of response from the female lead made the intimate scenes oh~so awkward for me.

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Does anyone officially know why KBS stopped subtitling their TV dramas (and everything else)?

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What do you mean? I still see subs on their latest videos on youtube.

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I'm assuming you mean on YouTube? Not officially but it's probably because of Kocowa.

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Wishing every beanie a happy December! Today I have finished all 10 of my applications for music conservatories! (No more essays and transcripts and video recordings woo!) I’m a violist going on in musical performance. After a crazy November, I’m ready to embrace December and indulge in Christmas season fun.

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Wow, congrats on finishing all your applications! That must have been so much work. Enjoy your stress-free December! Go binge-watch dramas or something ;)

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Congrats on finishing all your applications! Submitting all the required paperwork can certainly be grueling, not to mention stressful.

Best of luck on the conservatory acceptances. Enjoy your December!

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Definitely, you’ve worked hard (to borrow a Goblin line)! I’m so impressed with genuine musicians. I have one cousin that is a professional musician (also plays violin as well as piano). Good luck in your future!

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Liu Yifei has been cast to play [b]Mulan[/b] in the upcoming live action Disney remake!
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-42177082

Now if only Mark Chao could be cast as Li Shang! 🌟

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I know, right? That would be amazing. And my husband and I did a couples’ costume party last year as Mulan and Li Shang. *as everyone rolls their eyes and says “of course you did!”* Lol.

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👍 Awesome!

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So I'm watching Because This Is Our First Life and I'm very confused about Marriage with a big M. I thought I had watched enough k-drama to get that marriages are a big thing in Korea but it seem I still don't get it.

In particular with Ho Rang and Won Seok. They already live together. I understand that having a wedding is a huge expense, but it doesn't seam to be their problem. He says that marriage means having kids but why, you can get married without having kids straight away. Is it that he doesn't want to have kids at all and that getting married and not having kids is not something you can do in Korea? Maybe I'm too used to having the parents meddle in everything that now that we don't see any of their parents, I don't understand the problem? I'm so puzzled, I'm trying really hand to understand the character's struggles but I come up with nothing.

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It is useful to think of marriage (in the Confucian/Korean sense) as an adoption of a daughter into the family.

In a strictly hierarchical sense, the daughter in law becomes the lowest "rank" in the husband's family. And she is considered to have severed ties to her birth family. Her MIL and FIL is considered to have greater authority over her than her birth parents.

In HR/WS case, they are hiding their cohabitation from his and (and presumably) her parents. Once the cohabitation is discovered, it is probably expected that the parent's will "force" them to marry. The issue is that, once they officially marry, the MIL/FIL will typically ask them to start a family. And in a Confucian sense of obligation/hierarchy, MIL/FIL "asking" is akin to "You are ordered to start a family".

The Confucian structure of social order: (in order of priority)
ruler over subject, father over son, husband over wife, senior over junior, friend to friend.

This is why you have these issues in Korean celebrity-dom where a senior (sunbae) celebrity accuses a younger (hoobae) of not showing sufficient respect (regardless if the junior is much more popular or successful than the senior) To a western (more meritocratic) view, it may seem silly but this is seen a violation of an (almost) religious tenet.

I am over-simplifying!!!

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nobody asked but... the interesting thing relationship in these societies (esp Japan, Korea and China) is the teacher/student (master/apprentice) relationship. This is held only slightly lower than a parent/child relationship. So a teacher is held in as high regard as a parent. (if you watch a lot of martial arts drama/movies - a parent transfers parental authority to the master - which is how significant the master/apprentice relationship is)

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Thanks for your answer! I totally missed the fact that they were hiding from their parents but maybe it was implicit in the fact that their parents would never agree. I thought it was odd too.

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It's not implicit - it was shown explicitly in the drama. If you go back and watch the scene where Horang's mom dropped in town for a visit and went to see Wonseok (without letting Horang know) and pay attention to their conversation, you will see that she said something like Rang can't live with Suji forever and they should get married soon. She also expressed her concern and disapproval of his rooftop apartment.

I think for Wonseok, as a Korean guy in Korean society, he is constantly pressured to provide for his family (i.e., buy a house/apartment, provide all the income for Horang and any future children so Horang could just stop working and be a housewife as she has always dreamed of). His finances clearly weren't in a good shape since he'd stopped depositing into their joint saving account for a while now, and this is why he said that he needed 5 more years. It's not just wedding expenses that he has to think of, it's every expense they will incur after they get married , especially since Horang doesn't plan on working at all.

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I finally got to the conclusion that they lack communication. If they didn't want the same thing in life, they should have talked before now, but hey, better sooner rather than later!

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@javabeans I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but I couldn't find any other place for it. I'm wondering if you would still like to have feedback for our new(ish) website. One thing I've noticed is that if I haven't logged in and want to reply to a comment , clicking on the login page will take me to a new page and I then need to go back and look for the specific comment. Could we have a pop-up/floating login window that disappears after we log in so we don't lose track of what we were reading? Or could the site be smart enough to take us back to that specific comment? This is obviously not super important so please feel free to ignore it if you don't have time and/or it's hard to implement. I'm posting this in case you have some sort of periodic IT maintenance/update schedule and something like this can be incorporated easily. Thank you for all your hard work!!

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Wow, this is a late reply..... but that function is in the pipeline! The problem is the pipeline is reaaaaaaaaaaally long, so we can't promise it will be fixed soon. :( But we're taking note of all the tiny things that need to be fixed and chipping away at that to-do list slowly.

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That's perfectly fine - I just wanted to give a suggestion. Thank you so much for the progress update and all the hard work!! <3<3<3

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I'm finally done watching BTIMFL. I love it! Such a great and insightful drama. I love all the monologues. I always make sure I watched those scenes carefully and later be awed at how apt and true the words are.
Been watching Law Of The Jungle old episodes non stop nowadays. Haha. I initially watched the Fiji episodes for Roy Kim but later I was so invested in the series and I searched for all of the other seasons. Sigh. So many episodes to catch up. Maybe I'll just watch those seasons with the cast that I like. I don't even know why but watching celebrities surviving in a jungle was kinda fun. Waiting for Chief Byung Man's triumphant return!

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hi everyone!!! as some of you may know, i’m moving from singapore to christchurch next year, but right now we’re on a trip in nz to settle stuff & just for a holiday!!! We’ve been here for one week and it’s been good so far so yay!! Kiwis are really nice and people are really friendly, but it’s a little hard adjusting especially to their daily mannerisms bc unlike in sg where smiling @ a stranger is highkey weird & creepy, people here are really smiley??? + when you walk into shops the shop owners all try to make small talk and for someone who doesn’t really like interaction irl, it’s quite intimidating?? The weather here is quite a change though, just a few days ago i was half freezing to death, but yesterday was so terribly hot it honestly felt worse than Singapore. We’ll be heading to queenstown next week & i’m quite excited bc that really signals the start of holidaying and not just grocery shopping & getting used to roads and settling things :) I havnt got much jet lag at all, probably due to my lack of sleep so i’m essentially always tired, but I won’t be able to catch open threads early anymore unfortunately, since it’ll be around 3am when they get posted here :((

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Hi/Kia ora a New Zealander here who has just read your comment. South Islanders are really friendly lovely people. You should move up to Auckland my hometown - then in a city of a million people you can have the shop assistants ignoring you as they chat to their mates in the aisle while there is a long queue at the check out in the front. Welcome to NZ babybeast/ harae mai.

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ooh!!! i’m actually at the airport headed for palmerston north right now!! i think we won’t be popping by auckland but will be going to wellington!! maybe the situation there will be similar?

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Shocking and late-breaking news, everyone. I've achieved Rooftop Room Dweller status.

Might I avail myself of Hyun-jae's former abode in THE BEST HIT? That ladder to the rooftop in BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST gives me vertigo just looking at it. ;-)

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Hi everyone,

I am late to this thread but lately I have been following K-pop a lot and I love what they bring to my life. A k-pop song that will make me want to dance will make my day, but I am concerned.

This young idols, work so hard and yet people demand so much form them. All that pressure, can they handle it well?? With more and more news of idols with mental issues and a lot of survival programs, you realize how brutal the k-pop industry is. I want to see these kids do great things for a long long time.

I just wanted to put it out there, I don't have anyone to talk about these stuff near me, so hope you understand.

Thank you

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Well my dear Beanies,

I'll be around tonight but that'll be it for awhile, I think. You're all welcome to laugh at me if I'm wrong. :)
In the morning I am moving from Colorado to Ohio! I'm a bit nervous as my car isn't in the best of condition and I don't know exactly where I'm going once I get to Colorado. But, as y'all may remember I was offered a job. My official start date is in January but I was told I could start early if I want--and I'm eager to get started. But, its over a 20 hour drive to get to where I'm going. The final destination is uncertain, and even then it'll take awhile to get settled in the new place and the new job. Hopefully I'm just being super dramatic and I'll be haunting the boards just as much as I always do. But just in case I don't...I'll miss y'all! Gross mushy!
Unlike when I moved in August--this is a great time for me to move-drama wise. In August when I moved it was straight in the middle of School 2017. I had to watch Tae Swoon get the girl from my phone! Thats why as much as I want to start Jo Jung Seuk's new drama I have resisted and have instead kept on watching this horrible When I See You Again. Honestly. I should be rewarded for my restraint. I plan on downloading Oh Hae Young, Chicago Typewriter and Jealousy Incarnate and Healer to rewatch during my time away from the internet (and dramabeans, sad!). I'm thinking I should download some dramas I've never seen before as well. Maybe I'll finally get around to City Hunter!
Any other recommends, guys? Since I'm moving to a new place for a new job and a fresh start I wouldn't mind something that goes along those lines (with a heavy dose of romance, OF COURSE--an isa can dream)

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Aloha, @isa!

I've probably missed you, but what the heck. I'll wish you bon voyage and godspeed. Here's hoping you have good driving weather.

MAD DOG just wrapped, and it was very good. Solid. If you didn't watch it, I think you'll like it. An old thriller: TWO WEEKS, if you like Lee Joon-gi. MIRROR OF THE WITCH was good if you like sageuks. If there's a way to grab the recaps for it and also OH HAE-YOUNG AGAIN, you might want to -- owing to the Mugyo (Korean shamanism) that crops up in both of them. There were interesting and intense discussions of it in both shows. In OHYA, it manifested as a peculiar sense of time, among other things.

I'll sign off for now. Happy Trails! ;-)

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