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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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Currently recapping: Hwayugi

I’m Not a Robot: These two actors are so amazing at emoting that I find myself completely immersed in their feelings even while knowing, on the logical surface level, that this plot is fantastical and absurd. But they sell the heartache and longing so well! I cried a lot more than I thought I would this week, even though the plot itself was a little over-the-top (I mean, “I’m in love with a robot” is no “I don’t care if you’re an alien” on the angst-realism scale, but I still felt his pain!).

Black Knight: Honestly, I’m not sure what it is about this show that keeps me watching. It’s probably a lot to do with the offerings being miiiighty slim right now. But I do like that even though sometimes it’s mundane and dull, sometimes it does have an unpredictable quality that means that I never know where this show is going (although sometimes that’s just because it’s random), and it occasionally throws out shit so weird and unexplained that you have to admire it for attempting something. I… don’t know what they were actually attempting, but you know what, an attempt was made. Kudos for that.

 

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Currently recapping: Hwayugi

I’m Not a Robot: Yoo Seung-hooooooo, you make me cry so! What a great way to use the amnesia trope, with the reset and separation. The level of melo in this drama is just right for me—it’s emotional in the moment but never frustrating, because I know it’s temporary and there’s a happy upturn just waiting around the bend.

Two Cops: I wish the central mystery would move faster. It’s just so… unmysterious, and I’d really rather spend my time watching Jo Jung-seok play two characters and be confusingly swoony as both cop and con man. More hijinks, please!

Jugglers: I really like the relatively low-angst start to this romance. They’re just realistic people, and super adorable and geeky about basically everything. When he bought her fuzzy bunny slippers to match his fuzzy panther slippers, I just wanted to pinch their cheeks.

 

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Just Between Lovers: This is the only show I’m watching at the moment, and I really do like it. I love the melancholy tone, the beautiful direction, and the moody music. Junho has consistently turned in impressive performances, and he’s unsurprisingly a capable lead in this, playing a guy with a chip on his shoulder who’s still haunted by a tragic accident that upended his life forever. Won Jin-ah may be a rookie actress, but you wouldn’t be able to tell from her subtle, naturalistic acting. I’m already a fan of this talented new face and will definitely keep an eye out for her. This love story of two broken individuals who fit like two puzzle pieces isn’t a reinvention of the wheel, but it’s a sufficiently pleasant and satisfying watch. Also, Na Moon-hee’s in this, and who doesn’t love her sass?

 

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Smart Prison Living: I’m up to Episode 6 and Je-hyuk is the dumbest, purest, most earnest character I’ve seen in a K-drama lately. No wonder everyone is a member of the Je-hyuk Protection Squad. Anyone who tells you otherwise is in denial. Yeah, I’m looking at you, Lt. Paeng!

Just Between Lovers: I’m on Episode 2 and it feels so slow, but only because I’ve been spoilered to death and just want our two damaged puppies to meet properly. Also for someone to tell them it’s okay to move on, be happy with the family you have left, or ask for help if need be. It hurts to watch them do this half-existence thing they’ve been doing for years. Things will be better, right? Right?

 

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Black Knight: I’m usually averse to spoilers, but I’m really glad I started this late and read the backstory behind what ties our main couple and the two immortal ladies together, because I would’ve given up early otherwise. I went into this show not really looking to root for the main couple, since I’ve yet to see Shin Se-kyung in a root-worthy coupling, but I actually think the two leads work well together here. The rest of the side characters I could do without, especially the ridiculous aunt and the thug-boss-baddie. As a whole, I’m not sure what I was expecting with this show, but I certainly wasn’t expecting the comedy, intended or otherwise. It’s a welcome surprise, especially in our largely ineffectual second lead. I mostly find her funny (instead of aggravating) because she’s got no chance in hell of being a serious contender for Kim Rae-won’s affections, but even then, I do feel conflicted about liking her since she was one of the most despicable brats in Joseon I’ve ever seen on screen and she doesn’t seem to feel much remorse for her past actions. That said, I’m kinda starting to wish for her and the fake-prosecutor-turned-trainer ex to have their own little loveline ‘cause they’re hilarious together.

 
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Just Between Lovers
ah 😍😍😍😍😍 even with the angst

I'm Not a Robot
you're bad Tilda and I have luggage sized eye bags after all the crying

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Tilda hate continues. Lol. Can't believe she's done so well with just smiling in the only 5 minutes we've seen her.

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That is one memorable cameo 😂

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I also watch I am not a robot but I cant figure out who tilda is? though I stopped watching about 2 weeks ago?

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She was in this week's episode

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I think i need to check out this Tilda..seems she's getting a lot hate.

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you'd likely hate her too

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I've already ordered a hit on Tilda so I'm not sure you'll find her anymore. 😅

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Seems Beanie had ordered a hit on her,after all the crying

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I genuinely feel I won't be satisfied unless they show her at the end getting arrested and thrown somewhere dark and scary...the punishment rooms from Rescue Me perhaps?

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Maybe the gods will send her an allergy to money (?)

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Now i really have to watch! which episode is she in?
I've only been watching bits of INAR on Insta 😅

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Tilda wins for villainess of the year and she was only a 2 minute extra.

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LOL, I was like, where have I heard that name before, and it took forever for me to jog my memory of who that character was. Aye, she was onscreen for only a few minutes but her evil permeates the entire show.

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I believe her evilness permeates every other show too. S Mall's collapse in JBL? TIlda's fault. Tilda is the driver of every truck of doom in every drama. She IS No Face from W Two Worlds

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And I'd nominate her as Best Memorable Cameo too

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😂 😂 she'd be a shoe in!

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I'll watched this week's episodes of I'm not a robot like 3 times, and the heart pain is still so real.
Tilda must be the most hated cameo in my life now

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Looks like I have to try to watch 'I am not a robot!'

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nice to see Kang Doo and Moon Soo on the header! xD

These days I'm watching 3 on going shows, each with different charms.

Just Between Lovers is the melodrama I'm watching right now. it's subtle and beautiful. and I'm happy to see it being talked about here and there. Thought I have yet to catch up with ep 7 and 8, I'm already scared of what kind of storm next week's ep will bring 😭

Next is Jugglers. This is the romcom drama that got me loving it. Whenever I watch a romcom I tend to drop it midway because of unnecessary dragged angst, so I hope this one doesn't do that! please, I have my faith in you! there are things that I'm less thrilled with in this drama but overall it's cute and Daniel Choi's smile (and Lee Won Geun's) is such a treat.

Wise Prison Life. Oh Shin Won Ho PD, from now on I'll give whatever you make a try. because I love it. I love it. like Mary said, Je Hyuk is the dumbest, purest and most earnest character we've seen in kdrama in a while. I also love other character like Lt. Paeng (!!!) and of course our best friend disguised as a fanatic fan, Lee Joon Ho xD
1.5 hours doesn't feel that long. I love it.

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Agreed on Shin PD. I knew I would watch anything he directed from now on. He just has this magic that make a story (and all the actors working on his project) shine.

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true! he is such a storyteller. A simple thing could be woven into an interesting piece of story that makes people care about the characters as well 💕

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I am watching and enjoying the same shows. I watch them raw and subbed.

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ah, I'm still waiting for the day I'm brave enough to watch shows unsubbed hahaha 😂

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Heh, I watched raw and subbed for Because it's my first life, and I'm not a robot, great need to know what happened once the angst comes

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I don't know why I don't really like to watch things raw 😂 the feeling kind of understanding it but not knowing exactly what it is maybe hahaa and then guessed wildly what is being said haha but also I don't have the time to watch it twice :(
anyway that's great 😆 so we can be rest assured (?) after the angst hahaha

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These are 3 shows i started with but only watching Just between Lovers now. 1 thing i would like to mention is every 2nd comment for past 2 weeks "Watching Posts" Includes the name of Just Between Lovers. Its one heck of performance.
The only that is showing some competition is playbook and Jugglers is distant 3rd.
In my personal view Playbook has Better content. Rest 2 are still pandering to the same old-age requirements of the audience.

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yes, I'm very happy at the attention JBL got. It deserves the attention too. Prison Playbook is also very beautifully shot and written. 1.5 hours didn't feel that long and that's an achievement. It sealed my love for Shin PD :)
Jugglers is more like the drama to wash the tears tbh 😂 I watch it for the cute ahaha

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Are you me? Haha!
These are the only 3 shows I am following too!

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hi5!!! xD

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I am not even into melancholic drama but can I just say Just Between Lovers is a gem. It took over my world right now.

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Mine too! I wait impatiently for Mondays and Tuesdays these days.

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Glad to meet someone like me here! 💗

I was in "kdrama hiatus" since July 2017 and watch only Age of Youth 2 (which I'm crazy all over also, but that's another story) and now THIS DRAMA that is so so good. So I'm back and trying to be an active beanie here.

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I feel the same! Just Between Lovers is the one I really look forward to every week. That golden trifecta of excellent writing, acting, directing is there, plus that something extra that's made it magical and special. I'm a little sad it's not being recapped and doesn't seem to be getting much love from the staff. I have such confidence in the show that even though I know we're moving into some sad territory I know in the end we'll be surprised and moved by the story of our two little puppies! This show so well balances the heartbreaking with the heartwarming, I love the two hours I get to spend with it every week.

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And don't forget the OSTs!

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The OST for Just Between Lovers are nice, but tend to be on the soft side compared to other shows' OSTs though, so quite jarring coz I shuffle songs =p

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I am completely and utterly an ost junkie but I'm not connecting to any particular ost in the drama yet... all the talk on the ost is making me wonder... what am I missing?..
the last drama ost I heared that ripped and sealed in my heart completely you every scene and emotion was Eric nam 's song from mad dog OST

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That one from the Mad Dog OST is so emotional and powerful! It really hit me. Personally from JBL I really like the first part of the OST by Zitten.

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I know.... the staff bit makes me sad because it's such a good show...

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By no means the show can be called excellent. Its good one. It is satisifying the emotional needs of the audience and some things go its way. But objectively it has its own share of issues which noone can ignore or shoo away easily.

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CURRENTLY WATCHING.
+ Money Flower (2017)(14/24) - Champing at the bit for more episodes ... This drama is probably the most compelling thing I’m watching right now.
+ Prison Playbook (2017)(10/16) - Finally all caught up and now I’m waiting for subs to be released again ...
+ Just Between Lovers (2017)(8/16) - The lead couple has so much chemistry. I am loving the slow burn pacing and tone. Everything flows so well. Not to mention Lee Jun Ho is a dreamboat!
+ Hwayugi (2017) (2/16) - With all the production issues, it’s really up in the air whether this show will be suspended ... I’m nervous ... I need my When I Saw You OST first!!!
+ I am not a Robot (2017) (20/32) - That cliffhanger ... Whoa! As a side, I’m LOVING The Velveteen Rabbit references!!!! A childhood favorite of mine!
+ Two Cops (2017) (24/32) - Meh ... just trying to power through ...

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Man, Yoo Seungho and Chae Soobin were sooooo gooooood this week, they made me cried a lot. I thought I'm Not a Robot will be the complimentary fluffy, cute, and feel-good drama to the painful feels I get from Just Between Lovers (which is also an amazing show btw, it hurts so good), but the show really turned up the waterworks this week.

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And Just Between Lovers' Junho and Won Jin-ah are just really ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Gaaaah I LOVE HIM, i love her, i love the show, i love the cute, the pain, the beautiful beautiful shots, and really, I just love Junho so much.

I thought I have outgrown my kpop fangirling phase but Junho's pulling me back into the abyss again. He is my 2pm bias ever since their debut and im so so glad his popularity is on the upturn!

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He got my attention after Cheif Kim his chemistry with Namgongmin and amazing performance were so remarkable I couldn't hate his character, that's why I started JBL but now i am amazed also by WJA she's so good i like her, looking at her beautiful face is relaxing specially when she smiles. Aww..i love the chemistry between those two cuties.

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Watch Memory, he is great in it. Excellent drama

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JUST BETWEEN LOVERS! Im so hooked to it, love JUNHO and JINAH in here, I am so convinced by their characters, and believe them so much that I just wanted them to be together pls. Pretty pleease

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Sorry, I’m too tired to write. So here are my emoji reviews of the programs I’m watching so far.
Just Between Lovers - 😍😘👏🏼
I’m Not a Robot - 😕🙁☹️😣😖😫😭👌
Black Knight - 🤨😳😰😨😱🤯🖕🏻
Jugglers - 😋🤪🙃😘👏🏼

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I love your use of emojis. Especially the birdie for Black Knight. 😂

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Actually, I find it glib and disturbingly symptomatic of some of the more recent contributions to this site. Too bad! I’m losing respect.

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Actually, it has been a long time since I have posted anything on this site. The last few months have been very difficult in my country, and it has taken me a long time to get out of the depressed state I was in. I wanted to write something about the dramas I was watching, but I could not come up with the right words. Today, for the first time in a long in a long time, I was in a happy, playful mood so I decided to write my opinion in emojis. Sorry, it was immature on my part.

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Dear @dramamama Please, a huge part of why my country is in trouble is because of an overwhelming lack of tolerance coupled with an unwillingness to understand anything outside of a personal view. Frankly (and let's be brutally honest) we ALL make mistakes, we all can sound silly, and be even downright ludicrous at times....we are fangirling over dramas, fgs.
I hereby commit to tolerating your emoji rants if you can tolerate mine.

Love, beantown

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@dramamama A lot of us on DB are from all over the country and dealing with many of their own issues. This site is for us to find a common ground such as k-dramas to discuss and squeal about the show or actors, i.e. Please do not feel the need to apologize for the use of emojis as that's what it's for : To express how you feel without having to use words. REALLLY!! I love emojis!!

When I saw the above comment, I chose not to respond as that is one's opinion. I saw your post earlier and see where you are from. The devastation in your country is something I can only imagine. Please continue to post or comment and do not let anything discourage you from doing so. The majority of us are really nice here! I'd send you a hug emoji if I was using my phone!

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First, my sympathy to your current situation. My heart goes out to you and your fellow countrymen and women. My comment was not about the use of emojis. These are fine and a great way to express emotional responses. My criticism was of the comment about the use of ‘birdie’, which I find such a negative response to use without supporting explanation. Of course, we should all be expressing our opinions without fear and accepting others’ with good will but it cuts all ways and has nothing to do with whether we are nice people.

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It was never my intention of making it seem negative. I had only thought it funny that the emoji was used. Thank you for pointing this out.

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I love the emoji! explains a lot xD it's so fun ahhaha

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I laugh and laugh at the emoticons leading to the middle finger emoticon for black knight, so apt, lol

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IMNR left me in awe and crying my eyes out this week. Hurts so good that I don't even care that seeing MK and JA in pain is the equivalent of hitting your heart with a meat hammer. But although I seem to have a huge capacity for self-inflicted pain I could do with more smiles next week. pretty please, Show.

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To me, this show is not a silly plot boosted by amazing acting; instead it something that resonates at a deep level. It started off as a critique of patriarchy, and an interesting take on issues concerning mental health, then went into girl power, the future of AI and what it means to be human, finally settling into a story about loneliness and the miracle of making real contact to another person. But this might be telling you more about me than about the show itself… :-)

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I agree with Javabeans and Girlfriday about I'm Not a Robot. It's my current crack drama.
I'm a bit lost interest in Doubtful Victory and Two Cops. When Ddakji got killed my excitement about DV got killed too. I can't really pin point what I don't like about TC. I still watch both shows tough.
I already have 2 episodes of Hwayugi downloaded but haven't watched it yet. The behind the scene drama decrease my will to watch it.

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I have been continuing to watch Two Cops. I am not thrilled with the story, but I'm a big Hyeri fan so I continue to watch in spite of the story sort of feeling tired. I think it's because the reveals feel too choreographed and it doesn't seem that the main crime should be that difficult to figure out. So basically now it's just mostly about I'm Not A Robot for me :)

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Just Between Lovers: I never knew that a hug and a handholding could be this momentuous. It's crazy how I teared up watching those scenes. It was something so beautiful and precious, something I wouldn't take for granted from them, and somehow it made me even more acutely aware of the fragility of those moments. It felt like anything could snatched it away or shattered it like it's nothing. Never before a hint of noble idiocy hurt me this much.

Jugglers: I had tootache from cuteness overload. (Keep it coming, please.) But it's also a much needed happiness amidst a more tense week for other dramas that I watch at this moment.

Two Cops: To be honest, I've stop  caring for the overarching mystery several eps back, but I'm still stubbornly clinging to it because of Jo Jung-seok. The pace is horribly slow (after a very swift-and-bang premiere), that I couldn't properly enjoy the entertaining parts of the show.

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@gadis

So true about the handholding. I mentioned it briefly in this page where we're chatting about JBL.

http://www.dramabeans.com/2017/11/bound-by-tragedy-healing-through-love-in-jtbcs-just-between-lovers/comment-page-2/#comment-3162368

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JJS is my main reason for watching TWO COPS, too. We're just a bit past the half-way mark, but Soo-chang's only got two weeks to get back into his body in real time. The plot is advancing like molasses flowing uphill in January. ;-)

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Live watching Money Flower and started Ghost (Phantom) with So Ji Sub and Lee Yeon Hee and it's interesting so far! But I'm gonna miss Choi Daniel he had better chemistry with her

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So, javabeans's link to that video reminded me of this video I saw in twitter:

https://twitter.com/KBSWorldTV/status/948177400877105152

Hahaha.. Though I am not watching it, I think this show would be weirdly entertaining.

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What in the what...

Black Knight seems to be an interesting show.

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Haha.. I know, right? I had no idea what was happening in that scene. Maybe, it was a reverse trope to truck of doom, lol. :D

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Man, I thought the clip Javabeans shared was weird, but this, what even is this? She literally threw a freaking bicycle. This feels like something straight out of those Wayans brothers parody movies.

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and a freaking frying pan. It still amazes me how she acted fast or how she got the idea...

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Right?! Also, where in the world did she get a frying pan? It looked like she pulled it out of her purse but who carries a frying pan around in their purse?

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Earlier on, she used the frying pan as part of a presentation at work

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what did she do?

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I love how Kim Rae-won just doesn't react at all.

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I think that what makes Black Knight work is that it 's such an unpredictable show... when you don't expect comedy like that scene it just suprises you 😂

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I... what?

What genre is this show again?

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It's WTF. Only few shows belong to this genre. Nail Shop Paris is another one.

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Does Boys over Flowers qualify? Though maybe the wtfery was a result of it being my first kdrama?!

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Early criticism of this show tried to pan it for being too like earlier series but, in fact, it clearly defies pigeon-holing. For me, it’s a very welcome distraction from the very dull fare on offer at the moment. I notice that a lot of the negative reaction to it is unsubstantiated with other than an unease about genre ambiguity or a dislike of a cast member. It’s a pity if viewers are being put off by this.

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I am sure my neighbours think I'm crazy, I couldn't stop laughing. Who wrote this.

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alright guys, everyone go home, we have a winner of this years' Crosswalk of Death category. competition - obliterated.

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Man, that's the funniest interlude I've seen in a dog's age. First she threw a frying pan. Then a bicycle?!? (Hey, she's not wearing blue tights with a red cape and a big S on her chest. Who is this lady?!)

If there were a third item, she would have reached into her handbag and launched an Acme-brand anvil a la the Roadrunner. ROFLMAO.

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ALSO. Can we please talk about the hand-holding porn Just Between Lovers gave us this week because I have so many feelings about that scene, i cant even

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Reminds me of Healer handholding porn. 😍

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There's nothing else to talk about because words won't be enough.

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It's really unbelievable how well those two fit. When she looked back at him standing alone at the site covered in grit, and his body is kind of caved around the space where she should be but isn't, it was really clear how used I am to seeing them as a natural unit. Same thing when they were looking through shipping containers - there needs to be the two of them there to visually communicate what they're like. She's the outward expression of his more conciliatory side, and he's the outward expression of stubbornness. The big rig is part of that too: she has the license and the will and the hilarious crush on trucks, and he has the ability to get her the keys and sort of bridge the situation with any of the male workers who might have blocked her.

And I do want to call out how seamlessly the core Kang Doo spirit is shared between Junho and the kid playing him at 14. I've always noticed if a younger actor looks like the older actor they're role-sharing, but in this case it's down to microexpressions. They don't necessarily look the same physically, but their facial reactions and the way they express emotions are spookily similar. I've frequently found myself watching Junho in a scene and thinking how plausible it is that the teenager in the collapse grew into this guy, and that's all down to the symmetry in acting.

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That child actor is going places. He was just as amazing in Seven Day Queen (along with the girl too). I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for him.

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The child actor name is Nam Da-reum. Actually, he isn't the one from SDQ. In 2017, he has acted on The King in Love (young Wang Won), Bad Thief Good Thief (young Jang Min-Jae), While You Were Sleeping (young Jung Jae-chan). He debuted as young Ji-ho in Boys Over Flowers. Btw, Junho and he have worked together in Memory (2016) but I don't remember any scene with them together.

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Ooh oops. It's young Moon-soo who was in Seven Day Queen. I have seen him in Pinocchio, but wow he's already accomplished a lot. It'll be interesting to see where he goes from here. They need another School or Reply series lol

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@crysta

I think we've to wait for a couple of years to see him in School or Reply series. He's only 16 and just graduated from middle school a few days ago. But, School 2020 seems plausible. >.<

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Yes! And I also love how this couple kinda subverts the kdrama cliché of couples! Like how in the eyes of the world she is the one "too good for him" and he is "Candy"? I love their reverse roles but also how they portray his PTSD with the sudden flashbacks. Just between lovers is such a gem... there are so many layers to the charackter interaktions that it keeps u hooked the entire episode.

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The picture of Gangdoo and Moonsoo is such a clickbait for me lol. I love Just Between Lovers so much. Most of the time it doesn't even feel like I'm watching melo kdrama, there's such a sophisticated quality to its production. Junho and Won Jinah are both such revelations in this. Junho has the ability to portray Gangdoo's emotions down to the most miniscule expressions, and Won Jinah's Monsoo is adorable but never veers towards candy girl territory. I love them. I can take all the heartbreak they throw my way as long as these two find their peace and happiness in the end.

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same, as long as it's happy in the end I'm willing to be torn apart to be mended back again at its end

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+1 right here! never mind the angst as long as we get happy ending in the end.

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My favorite from this week? Moon Soo aegyoing at a truck, and Kang Doo being so gruffly delighted at her blend of truck-crush, competence and giddiness.

I know the hand-holding was pretty good this week, but what absolutely melted me was when they're taking pictures with the truck and he tells her to smile and when she gives him a broad grin, it's like his heart fills up. He's just so happy to see her so happy, and he likes HER so much, and Junho really does wonderfully showing such a minute but strong change in Kang Doo in reaction to Moon Soo smiling at him.

Won Jinah's really a marvel in this role too. You're dead on, she doesn't come across as a candy at all. She's got a crazy amount of survivor's guilt and has been landed with the care and feeding of the parent most likely to trigger that guilt, and yet she's managed to become a very successful professional who puts real focus and meaning into her work. She's magnetic in that she's both self-sufficient and idealistic, but tempered by realistic expectations.

Honestly, this show is just brilliant. Anyone know why DB isn't recapping it?

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Just Between Lovers: slow-paced, all the tropes are there, but even the tropes are done beautifully. Very moving story of what happens to the young survivors of a tragedy, dealing with PTSD, survivor's guilt and needing help to heal. It just gives me a warm feeling. Love the cast, esp Na Moon hee and Junho - even they have a lovely relationship. The OSTs are beautiful and fit the subdued tone of the show.

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That screencap of Just Between Lovers 😍😍 This is the main show I watch every week. @seralovestteobokki said somewhere that this drama feels like a special, and I then realised why I like it so much: I love specials and always want them to go on for longer. 😄

My sinful pleasure of the week: Radiant Office. I have not slept the last two nights binge-watching this. I have one more episode to go and am sorry to say goodbye. After watching Misaeng, Chief Kim, and now this, I should accept that I like office dramas.

And finally, I watched two specials today (Friday night fun!): The Pianist (thanks @pakalanapikake!) and Slow (which was depressing and interesting in a good way).

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I love SLOW so much! Kwak Dong-yeon has never been better!

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I'm so glad you enjoyed PIANIST, @WishfulToki!

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Just Between Lovers ep 7 & 8

The show twisted my heart in all kind of ways. I just wanna hug Kang-doo tightly and assure him it's okay. I kinda resent Moon-soo a bit for not giving him hugs and kisses and caresses already when he so clearly longs for them. I mean, you saw him in his most vulnerable moment, why did you leave him hanging ? *sigh*

And, please, Lee Ki-woo's character (okay I forget his name), don't be a bad person. We don't want that and I'm sure you don't want to be that person either.

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Oh, and thank you for putting Kang-doo and Moon-soo as the header ! :)

Another thing, I like that even evil CFO Jung had his vulnerable moment. I like his scene with the madam. I think there's genuine feeling growing between them. This show really give us all kinds of human emotions and relations and show us that people are complex.

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Thanks for mentioning CEO Jung and the Madam. I love that he's more complicated too. All the characters, even the minor ones, are written and acted so well.

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I think Jung Yoo-Taek is one of the least developed characters, which is why I disagree. I don't buy his 'woe is me' self pity victimized attitude because I've only ever seen him complain and throw tantrums.

For someone who's a CEO, he sure is incompetent and knows nothing about the business or the issues at the construction site. No wonder no one gives him any respect; he hasn't earned it. He was working at the company when the mall collapsed, but he hasn't learned anything from that tragedy, which killed many people and affected the lives of those who were left behind.

A better example of an awful yet humane character would be Section Chief Park Jong-Sik in Misaeng.

Jung Yoo-Taek is just a whiny spoiled brat who doesn't deserve my compassion.

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I like the CEO because he's a very real character: someone who by chance has landed in a role that is way, way way over his head, but he's been brought up with a sense of entitlement that means his ego really can't allow him to admit any of that. So he ends up trapped and besieged. He's trying to use his received power to force people to respect him, which is of course not how it works, but there are a lot of these men in business.

People like the CEO don't get that there's strength in admitting you don't know everything, and strength in allowing your underlings to take the lead, and also strength in stepping in to defend your underlings and give them cover. He'll have learned quite a bit of his current operational mode from his authoritarian father, judging from the events of the mall collapse. But while his father may be acting that way out of a knowing arrogance ("I'm right, therefore I'm going to browbeat anyone on my team until they fall in line") the CEO doesn't have that same authoritarianism and is just trying to hang on.

I find his character sympathetic, if not likeable. He's a man in a position he should not be holding, and he knows that, and he's paranoid about it coming back to bite him because he knows that it will.

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Yes, which are the all reasons I don't have compassion for his plight. I never said he wasn't real. To me, the director hasn't presented him in a way that makes me care about him, which is why I compared his character/representation to Section Chief Park Jong-Sik in Misaeng.

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Hello to all! I thought I would be brave this year and share a little bit about what I was watching with other people because it can get kind of lonely. It’s been a busy week, but of course I’ve managed to watch a whole lot of things:
*Just Between Lovers: I’m not a melo girl. I love romance, but the lighthearted kind, rom-commy types. When things hit a little close to home, I tend to avoid them, but I picked up this drama from the beginning and I really like it. When the main characters make me have butterflies, I’m all in. I love how they are slowly opening up to each other. I feel like they are opening the story up little by little and it keeps getting sadder, but its so well done that it's addicting. Subs can't come any faster. I am scared for the angst though.
*I’m Not A Robot: Oof, another show that is making me feel things. I was so sad many times during this week’s episodes. Min-kyu is just such a precious person and I just want him to be happy. Ji-ah is a hard working, lovable person and she deserves to be happy too. I just want him to fall for our girl for real to maybe lessen the betrayal. It looks like they are finally going to meet! I’m so excited for next week.
*King 2 Hearts: I read the recaps for this and there were many episodes that got up to 1000 replies/conversations! So even though I knew all the spoilers, I wanted to see a Lee Seung-gi drama and chose this one. I’ve been watching it for the past month and definitely taking my time with it, only watching it when I have nothing else. I have three episodes left so who knows when I’ll finish it, hopefully this week!
*1 Night,2 Days: We finally have a new episode! I'm glad that we finally got some new content, but it's still not what we are used to. Can't complain too much though because who knows if its temporary, hopefully not! Can’t wait to see the guys in Cuba and Kazakhstan.
*Master in the House: So obviously with me watching K2H I would be interested in Lee Seung-gi and since I've only seen him in NJTTW S1, I wanted to see him in a variety show. Why not a new one! I thought the premise was interesting and it was so funny getting to know all the members. I really enjoyed the first episode and will be waiting to see the next episodes as well.

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Hi @Jellybn
Don't be lonely. You're welcome to come and chat. And if you want to chat about Just Between Lovers, you can go to:
http://www.dramabeans.com/2017/11/bound-by-tragedy-healing-through-love-in-jtbcs-just-between-lovers/ where some of us are holed up and waxing lyrical! 😋

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Oh!
I didn't know you guys where chatting about it here, I've been posting "JBL talk" posts on my wall and with all the comments, it feels like a recap minus a recap!

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Thank you @growingbeautifully! I will definitely go check it out:)

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I'm only watching I'm Not A Robot and will start binge-watching Just Between Lovers, Jugglers and Wise Prison Life after this *hell* week ends as a sort of prize-for-self (see how drama watching has become a matter of reward for me lol)

IANAR-
Need to emphasize Yoo Seung Ho and Chae Soo Bin 's plausible chemistry. They invoke formidable connection whether as MinKyu-Jia or Minkyu-Jia as Aji-3, let's add Min Kyu-Aji3 interaction which creates more dynamics into the main lead's relationship. The writer did a good job slicing in those real robot & min kyu moments.
All these elevates the show on a higher level despite the not-that-fantastic plot. I agree to javabeans, I'm so aware of how this "I'm in love with a robot" could be straightout ridiculous but YSH & CSB made me delved deeper into the character's feelings and suddenly, things make sense. Before I knew it, I'm already laughing, sympathising and crying with the characters.

Regarding the supporting characters, I can't really say that they are given char development but I enjoy them. I love how they are all (Santa Maria team + Sun Hye, Yoo Chul and Ri El, Jia's family) there to deliver emotions that traces us back to our two main leads. The're that kind of supporting characters.

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You're not alone. I got through grad school rewarding myself with kdramas. 😄

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Haha I reward myself with kdramas too!

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I'm not a Robot- Chae Soo Bin and Yoo Seung Ho are so good. These past episodes were so sad. I genuinely felt for both of them. It's too bad the ratings aren't as high because they are both doing fantastically in this and frankly I think out of all the dramas I've seen from both of them, this is their best work. Also really Tilda, poor Johnny, he didn't deserve death, what a bizzy.

Just Between Lovers- This is a very sweet drama. It is slow, but a good slow. I want them to actually get to the lovers part. I'm enjoying all the side characters as well except for Seo Joon Won, I find him very passive aggressive. It makes him unlikeable. I even like Jung Yoo Jin because she seems to be at least trying.

Wise Prison Life- Yoo Han Yang is my favorite character. I found him super creepy in the beginning with his high pitched voice (especially since Forest of Secrets), but now I utterly adore him. I'm not sure why I find him so endearing, but I do. I enjoy Jae-Hyuk as well as the lead. Once again the writers make me happy and sad even with movie length episodes.

Black Knight - The romance is just okay. They are not a particularly exciting couple, but they have their cute moments. However Seo Ji-Hye is my new favorite actress. She brings life to Sharon and makes her both likeable and sympathetic, which is difficult for such a god-awful character. I watch it for her and Chang Mi-hee(whom I still love form unkind women).

Jugglers- It is so sweet it actually makes me uncomfortable. Episode 9 was my favorite to date, the awkwardness was wonderful. I skipped most of episode 10, I'm waiting for them to get caught so some sourness can lessen the saccharine. That sounds awful, but the sweetness is too much. Usually I like fluff, but only when it's not between boss and assistant.

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Agreed on JBL's Joo woon. tho I haven't watch ep 7 and 8 there is something that I don't really like with him. maybe like what you said, it's his passive aggressiveness. but the leads are so lovely.
and Han Yang! yes! he grew on me as well 💕💕

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On Just Between Lovers: I'm starting to dislike Joo Won, but I think for me it may be that unlike the other characters, some of his motivations seem mysterious. In ep 7 or 8, he sees the picture of Moon Soo with her sister and later asks her about it, when he already knows who her sister is and that she died. Was he trying to gauge how she feels about the accident, or trying to get her to open up so that they could get closer? Idk, maybe I just don't like the love triangle that's emerging and I've turned on him. All the stuff he's doing just reinforces what a sad character he is, and that he's dealing with baggage like all the other characters are.

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I think none of us really wanted a love triangle and all of us are disappointed in him for that, but you know, when he asked her about his sister, I think he just wanted her to know he could be someone she feels comfortable with, and that he will understand her and will listen to her if she wanted to talk, he doesn't know she's already found herself someone like that in Gang-doo! I'm just hoping he won't force his feelings on her especially when Gang-doo is going to try and distance himself from her in the coming episodes!

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I'm apprehensive of Joo Won, but only because I so clearly want Moon Soo and Kang Doo to connect without interference. But if I look at Joo Won himself... Man, he might be the one who's actually been damaged the most out of all of this.

Moon Soo is dealing with the death of her sister, her mother's decline and her father's quasi-abandonment, but she got a clean break from the collapse itself. But absolutely nothing about the collapse was her fault.

Kang Doo is dealing with the death of his father, it sounds like the ensuing social attacks for his family's rebar resale probably factored in, his mother's death, taking on the family debts, and his injury - oh, and I think I saw he was the last person rescued from the site a week after it collapsed, so I guess he was in a small space with dead bodies that he 100% remembers. But he at least has a strong break between past and present lives.

Joo Won on the other hand is SCREWED. He was onsite, and one would guess feels both a family and professional responsibility for the collapse. His girlfriend sacrificed his father. His father killed himself. His mother married into the family that scapegoated his dad. He's continued working under that family in some bonkers role of being simultaneously hated and trying to prevent future accidents. He is PAINFULLY aware that somehow the family his mother married into has come to believe that the collapse was everyone else's fault, purely because they weren't punished. He has had no break at all, at any time, ever. The family that destroyed his family promptly co-opted him and have been devouring him for a decade.

So I feel a strong sense of sympathy for Joo Won and completely understand why he would make a play for Moon Soo. I truly think he's the most mentally damaged of all of them, because the damage has been ongoing for a decade. He's just putting up a remarkably good front, but in actuality he's kind of trying to work himself to death.

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I think this is a fair assessment of him. However, he also seems to be a bit of an abuser and manipulator of both himself and others. I only say that because of the scene when he was drunk and went to Yoo Jin's house to have angry sex. It was thoughtless and rude. Thankfully Yoo Jin stopped him before he ended up hating himself more and also hating her.

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I think abuser isn't reflective of that scene where he goes to Yoo Jin's. On a basic level, she's the most normal and unchanged thing for him over the last decade, and has made it clear that she is still pursuing him in some way. Is it classy to go on a grief bender and then try to lose yourself in angry sex with your ex? No. But he stopped as soon as he was called on it and didn't cross any lines other than those of politeness.

The manipulation part I find more persuasive. Him asking Moon Soo out to dinner is mild, given that guys will do that if they think their crush is starting a relationship with someone else. The more concerning part of it is when he asks her about her sister. I think that pattern, what he thinks is trying to give her room to speak and she very well might see as entrapment - that's going to be troublesome.

Both his mom and Yoo Jin worry me. I have no idea what's going on with his mom - she seems to be a dogsbody for that entire family and appeared to have married in as some sort of protection for her son, but is now allying with her husband and saying she loves him? As for Yoo Jin... I was so fiercely, delightedly glad that Joo Won stated that her family is not innocent, they've just not been punished. Yoo Jin has some sort of magical thinking going on where there's a clean path through this, and she also seems to see herself as having behaved well this whole time. I'm sure it's not an easy role for her, especially as she's playing mediator between Joo Won and her brother, but she really has no standing to tsk at Kang Doo and Joo Won when it's her family who set the stage for this entire tragedy (and in Kang Doo's case, followed up with impoverishing his family).

It's also pretty scary that he's a workaholic who depends on liquor and Xanax to operate and who clearly would fall apart without work to do. If Yoo Jin's family decide to crush him, what exactly does he have to live for?

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I love picture in header from Just between lovers 😊

Still arguing with my self, wether to binge watching when it finish (to make sure that gang doo has his happy ending), or whatch when it's on air (i've already watch till ep 8) but gang doo's pain (and the pain to wait for another episode to air), is hard to handle. i really want to see gang doo to be happy....

PS. I really love all about this drama, actors, cinematography, ost, etc..and i love to reads beanies comment about JBL.
Unfortunately it doesn't get recaped here so i can't read dramabean's editor hindsight (i really like to read their recap, the words they choose shed more light to the show)

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The wait is torture but I think live-watching it is still better than binge-watching it! It hits you with so many emotions that you need time to gather yourself, I don't think I can handle the binge-watch!

Also, I need Gang-doo to be happy and I need him to be happy with Moon-soo, I just need those two broken souls to fix each other, they will be happy, THEY WILL!

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Thanks for your kind advice, i'll try it. I'll repeat ur words while watching, they'll be happy, they will!
*hufft Be strong my heart*

Ahh i forgot to mention about Liverpool, i like that the show tell us about miracle when Liverpool winning in champions league againts AC milan (liverpool is my favourite football club, and gerrard too, my favourite soccer player) .. so i hope miracle will come to them too (esp gang doo and mon soo)

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Yes, she doesn't remember who told her the story but she remembers it, I love that the story is about hopes and miracles happening, I'm going to trust the show and wait for our Gang-soo's miracle!

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Although we can't get any insights from the db team, some beanies are sharing their thoughts in the comments section of this thread: http://www.dramabeans.com/2017/11/bound-by-tragedy-healing-through-love-in-jtbcs-just-between-lovers/

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Thanks for the info,

i need to backread those thread again then..
something pleasant to do while waiting for new ep :)

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Like you! Liverpool and Steven Gerrard forever! I remember watching this match! All of my friends were for AC Milan and I was the only one to believe in Liverpool come back after the first half...And it did happen!

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@keona
Nice to see liverpudlian chingu here :)

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Just Between Lovers

… the not-my-granny character is unforgettable
… the main leads are salvation, for each other
… the Mon-Tues excitement returned tenfold
… the agony is palpable
… the cinematography shines, ON EVERY STILL
… the music engulfs you
… the story is gold
… an umbrella scene

I'm Not a Robot

… the leads ooze chemistry + feelings
… the male lead crumbled down my walls towards his acting
… the comedy/drama balance is right on
… the color correction, the angles, the light; an A+
… the story, absurd, yet totally believable
… the music, so well cued
… the Wed-Thurs wait is back on!
… an umbrella scene

Jugglers

… the leads are ON FIRE
… the funny moments are hilarious
… the use of glasses, unexpected & welcomed
… the surprise of finding something out of nothing
… the cinematography, splendid
… the music, upbeat
… an umbrella scene

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I sense an umbrella theme here.
Nice way of summing up your week by the way. :)

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LOL! You got it! There's something about umbrellas and Korean dramas ... isn't there?

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I agree - love the umbrellas.
Just give me umbrellas over that damned Truck of Doom okay?

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Umbrella scenes for the win lol. ;D

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It's a great year for Umbrella-nim. Fighting! May you be used in every Kdrama this year to help increase sales!

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Wow javabeans that is some really weird stuff, was the writer/director drunk when he/she made that scene?... maybe I shouldn't have dropped this and continued watching it just for the WTFs, but nah I couldn't make myself watch it beyond the first 4 eps.

I am watching:
Jugglers: I like how light it is, and how cute/sweet and low key the relationship between the H/h is, and it was so cute when he got her the bunny slippers! Now I want to get bunny slippers as cute as the ones in this drama, because I love bunnies!

I'm not a Robot: These two eps were emotional, but I'm still having a hard time suspending my disbelief. I mean how does he not realize that she is human, after she kissed him (even if the kiss was tame and not open mouthed, didn't he still feel her breath?). Same for when he he hugged her before the reset. Anyways I'm glad that the pretense is over now, let's see where it goes.

Just Between Lovers: My fave of the airing show right now, I hope that it can stay good till the end. I also hope that the mystery of what happened underground won't be too predictable, because I hope to be surprised in a good way. I also hope to see more romance between MS/KD, as they heal and move on from the past.

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I am not a robot and why MK did not know she was one: to quote dr Oh 'the mind is a mysterious thing'. It is easy to hold on to a false belief when that belief is what is keeping you alive. When meeting robot Aji3 again he immediately recognized that he feels 'like someone I've never met, no... like a robot'. Also Jia-as-Aji3 was always a person in his mind. Of course he attributes it to wishful thinking rather than facts. So imo subconsciously MK knew the truth and fell in love with Jia all along. The robot memory reset has also reset his belief system in a way, so meeting Jia again he should be able to work out the truth for himself soon enough. Kim Min Kyu 너를 믿을거야...

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He'd have a better chance of telling the difference between a robot and a woman if he had more experience with either.

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Impatiently waiting for Hwayugi episodes!! Saturday can't come fast enough. Also this week's episodes of Jugglers were ❤❤. Haven't had the chance to watch JBL's this week but will be catching up hopefully soon!

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But...but..the theme JBL keeps highlighting is how difficult it IS to move on for some people. And sometimes you never move on from a traumatic or sad experience. You just have to live with it.

Man. This drama really hits home. I've had so much tragedy in my life for the past two years, that although it's not the same circumstances, I can feel the pain in these characters. Watching JBL takes a toll on me every week; like many others I sometimes finish an episode and feel so drained. But I love the show because it puts into words things I've felt. It's real. Such a gem. I'm addicted!!

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aww I totally get what you feel about the drama draining your emotions. it was what I felt for Reply 1988 and now with JBL, though not at the extent of R88 did. It drained you, but as you said, it put words into things you felt and it's an amazing feeling to relate to that!

I hope you'll feel better and find happier days as well /hugs/

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Gahw thanks! I am definitely better and out of the huge depression slump I was in. Like I said, I'm learning how to live with it & finding as much happiness as possible now! ^^

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I can see that the realism of JBL can be draining, but I usually come out of an episode with a sense of hope and new-found strength. Sometimes you feel you can't move on from a traumatic experience, but you don't have to endure all of the pain alone.

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Yeahhh and that's what I want for the characters. I want them to realize they can cope TOGETHER. 😭 It's draining but healing atst <--- that's probably more accurate.

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Just between lovers: I still LOVE this show, Mondays can't come fast enough.
Jugglers: I am still enjoying this show and its humor. Between Jugglers and JBL my Mondays and Tuesdays are swoonier (I don't think this is a word XD, but whatever).
Smart Prison Living: I just started this show yesterday but I am already on episode 4 (episodes are wayyy too long) I am enjoying it so far, this PD will always be a trolololol. Stay like that PD-nim.

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I'm Not a Robot: I came for the fluff but stayed for the feels. Even though I have to turn off my brain for the writing/plot devices (AHEM TILDA), YSH and CSB are really selling it. They emote so well that I buy it all anyway. I feel like in the hands of lesser actors, this drama would have been silly and just that, but the acting makes it feel more grounded in a way that makes me invested. In that respect, the drama reminds me of SWDBS, where I couldn't buy the plot but stayed for the leads and their adorableness!

Just Between Lovers: I luff the grandma. She is the best. Also, the handholding scene at the bus stop = all the feels. That scene felt so realistic and accurate in conveying their feelings for one another while still being understated. 'Nuff said.

Also, anyone else watching Youn's Kitchen (season 2)? I was SO impressed with Park Seo Joon. The scenes showing him studying Spanish! I love his earnestness!

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I'm here just to upvote everyone who watch Just Between Lovers 😄, LOL

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Haha Me too. 😁

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(...busted, but upvotes anyway!!)
I am loving all the love for JBL!

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Hah same! I think most of the JBL beanies do that, we're like an upvote squad that's trying to give the drama as much love as possible.

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Will people up-vote me if I offer to start watching it if I get enough up-votes ??? :)

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I'll do it. (prove on your noti) If only we could give many upvotes to a comment, I'll upvote as much as you want.

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INAR: Even given the far-fetched premise and fauxbot hijinks, they've managed to deliver some great performances and balanced, thinking characters. The characters are drawn with flaws and mistakes but they learn and adjust. The latest coincidental meeting is a bit lazy though, from a writing standpoint. I like it that MK confronted his ex-friend YC and told him basically that he, YC, needed to step outside his father's shadow and be his own person with his own morality. I hope this leads somewhere.

Jugglers: It's doing a good job staying on track for a light rom-com. Even by k-drama standards, this drama is very unsubtle (crude?) and with mostly character caricatures. The makjang-fest of Bo Na and Jung Ae is an example of non-subtlety. JA's husband cannot just be a failure but he needs to be a two timing, con-man, selfish brute. Bo Na cannot just have financial struggles but has to have a deaf, unemployed father who relies on her completely. For this drama, it's got to be +100 or -100...nothing in between. The same goes for the romance, it goes from nothing to full blown and hints of internal conflict are just swept aside (what happened to the "father, teacher and boss are the same" tenet that YY had?) Overall, it feels like an adult version of a children's fairy tale, which is a pity because, unlike INAR, it started from a fairly relatable situation and the writers could have been a lot more nuanced.

Waiting for the new Hwayugi episodes - I guess the next two weeks will show if they managed to get a handle on the story and the delivery. My initial thought was to contrast it with "Master's Sun". Hwayugi seems a bit more "supernatural story with a bit of romance" while Master's Sun kept it the romance more central and the supernatural elements were the device for the characters to learn more about each other. Early days yet.

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@tummy I agree without your Jugglers observations. The world they live in is something of a cartoon but I do enjoy a lot of it. I think my second-hand embarrassment has kept me from watching this week's episodes.

Don't all the connections/missed connections between Ji-a and Min-kyu point to *whispery voice* Faaaaaated Loooove?

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Yeah... we have to accept a certain degree of "faaaated looove" ha ha. And of course, Seoul is a small city - people run into each other all the time. I mean, maybe 10000 people and perhaps 100 restaurants in town - it was bound to happen.

What I like about INAR is that the characters have self realization and accept responsibility and CHANGE their attitudes and behavior. So far, most of the characters demonstrate their own agency.

I don't feel that as much for Jugglers where the female characters, in particular, are sort of shown as helpless victims with very limited agency, things happen TO them, they don't stand up for themselves. Just very grating just because of the symbolism. "Good" female characters have to be humble, be willing to accept injustice heaped on them, defer to others, accept abuse and LO AND BEHOLD, they will be rewarded with a handsome prince that defend them and treat them like princesses and solve all their problems. It's childish and worse, the opposite of empowerment/liberation.

What is even worse (and this is sadly too common in k-drama) they portray the younger women who act decisively and assertively for their own purposes as "witches", "arrogant" or "crazy". It is a troubling stereotype.

I am especially upset when they so easily use the term "charisma" to describe the male behavior and "crazy" when the same behavior is demonstrated by a woman.

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IANAR again:
1) about YC - I think that despite everything MK still cares about YC as well. He went out of the way to tell him that his fight is with his father not himself; also when talking to Jo about failing to get the tape and needing to use plan B he said that that option comes with collateral damage, which I am assuming meant YC. Of course YC finds that upsetting because being hated by someone you care about is still better than being completely ignored. 2) faithful meeting - if they are both going out of town to see the meteor shower then they heard about it roughly at the same time so it's not inconceivable that they booked their tickets at the same time too. To me this is not blind the-universe-decided-to-throw-them-together fate but rather their-longing for each other pushing them in the same direction. In this show we make our own fates. :)

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1) You make sense and I hope it turns out that YC manages to find his way to become his own person and reconnect with MK or at least let go of his antagonism.

2) Fated meeting isn't a major plot buster. It is just a normal (if lazy) writer conceit. KTX express (first class - MK takes this?) is roughly 3x the cost of regular trains? Maybe someone in Korea can explain. The savings could be in the region of USD100 round trip (to Busan) - not a small amount for a poor JJA if she wanted to travel.

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1) I actually want them to be friends again.
2) fair point but that is too much real life for me... I chose to not let facts get in the way of a good story (at least in kdrama-verse). :-P [ In real life the invention with the most market value in the show is the contact lenses that Jia wears as Aji3 but the battle of the contact lenses is not a drama that will be written any time soon.]

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ha ha. yes. of course. I would like to see how that product works. or the multiarticulated robot hands in the shape/size of human ones that would be fantastic for limb replacement.

and the AI plus robot that can play tennis...still impossible in the near term with anything like a human form robot since the balance mechanics of natural human walking are still nearly impossible to replicate. (the wonder of the human brain)

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Smart Prison Living is ridiculously good. The ratin