[Theme of the Month] In defense of…
by javabeans
Happy new year, everyone!
It’s a new month and a new year, and time for a new theme. And this time, we thought we’d give you the floor (so to speak) to defend a drama (or a performance, or a particular story or setup) that you think gets a bad rap.
Defend an unpopular opinion, drama, or actor and tell us why you love them.
Maybe it’s a show that doesn’t get enough credit. Maybe it’s a prevailing opinion that you’ve never agreed with. Or maybe you just want to show some love for a favorite oppa or noona who doesn’t get a lot of love. This is your opportunity to play defense attorney and argue on behalf of these overlooked or underappreciated people/plots/things!
To submit:
- Email your submissions to hello@dramabeans.com. If you have a registered Dramabeans account, include your handle so we can link to it.
- Include at least 1 image, though more is preferred.
- Suggested length: Between 500 and 1,000 words.
- Deadline: We will post these on a rolling basis, so we’re taking submissions now. We will cut off accepting submissions on January 25. If you miss this month, join us for a new theme next month!
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1 RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 1, 2018 at 8:12 PM
If this theme included kpop, I would totally write about The East Light...
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Junie Bug
January 1, 2018 at 8:22 PM
I love their music so much! I got into them because of Woo-jin being a part of Produce 101 and I don't regret listening to them :) If kpop was a part of this, I would write about Nu'est or the Rose (even though they debuted mid- last year)
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RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 1, 2018 at 8:34 PM
At last!!!! I've found another East Light fan! I didn't watch Produce 101 but one day one of their I Got You stages showed up in my recommendations and I clicked on it. I tried to resist because I thought I didn't have time to like another group but... now I'm a huge fan.
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Junie Bug
January 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM
At this point, I have given up on trying to stop groups from taking over my life. Every time I listen to a new group, like you, I try to resist but it never goes well.... Their I Got You stages are the cutest and so are they!!!
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RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 1, 2018 at 9:04 PM
I love the one when they're in the pirate costumes. So adorable!
Have you seen some of Junwook's guitar covers. He's SO GOOD. I could watch/listen to him play guitar all day.
Junie Bug
January 1, 2018 at 9:14 PM
@raonah Me too! I have listened to Junwook's cover of Beautiful over and over again and I can't get enough of it!! ITS AMAZING <3
RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 2, 2018 at 1:56 PM
I just listened to Junwook's cover of Beautiful because I couldn't remember if I had heard it before. It's so good. I also found this one that I'd never heard before that he composed himself: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PB7N1tI277A
Junie Bug
January 2, 2018 at 5:12 PM
@raonah HE COMPOSED THAT??? OMG that guy's phenomenal at the guitar! The fact that he did this when he was fourteen is just mind blowing and it was so beautiful 😍
RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 2, 2018 at 5:53 PM
IKR?!?! And actually, I think he was twelve because he was born '02 and the video is from 2014. How can someone be so talented at TWELVE?!?!?
Junie Bug
January 2, 2018 at 6:02 PM
@raonah welppp I can't count but anyways it's still such a young age to be doing so many great things!! When I first listened to their music, somewhere I saw that he was considered a prodigy and I didn't check it out but now I can fully understand OMG HE'S AWESOME
RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 2, 2018 at 6:20 PM
Sometimes people exaggerate and throw around words like prodigy but I think in his case, it is well-deserved.
RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 2, 2018 at 6:23 PM
Here's another song he composed. In case you haven't seen it yet 🙂
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCDuwQz_0Y
Junie Bug
January 2, 2018 at 7:14 PM
@raonah That song came on right after the other one you suggested and I couldn’t get enough of him so I watched a lot of his compositions LOL He's so good that there’s not enough words in the dictionary to describe his playing
panshel
January 1, 2018 at 9:03 PM
Have you watched The East Light's episode of After School Club? They practically held a mini-concert.
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RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 1, 2018 at 9:05 PM
I haven't. I've seen clips but can't find the whole thing anywhere 😭
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Junie Bug
January 1, 2018 at 9:16 PM
I haven't seen the episode either but I know that if you go to the ASC website, you should be able to see a list of all their previous episodes. Here is the link: http://www.arirang.com/Tv2/TVCommon_NoStaff_Archive.asp?PROG_CODE=TVCR0688&MENU_CODE=101717&Page=1&SearchStr=&Field=
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Junie Bug
January 1, 2018 at 9:18 PM
I haven't seen the episode either but I know that if you go onto ASC's website and into their archive page, you should be able to see a list of all the episodes that they've had. I would copy and paste the link here, but its not letting me :(
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RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 1, 2018 at 9:49 PM
Thanks!!! Going to watch it now 🙂
panshel
January 1, 2018 at 9:30 PM
If YouTube doesn't work, then you can watch it on Arirang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFiMYS3HFTo
http://www.arirang.com/Tv2/TVCommon_NoStaff_Archive.asp?PROG_CODE=TVCR0688&MENU_CODE=101717&view_seq=23858&Page=2&sys_lang=Eng
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RaOnAh loves Jay B 💚
January 1, 2018 at 9:50 PM
Thanks so much!!! It worked! I'm going to start it now 🙂
BC
January 2, 2018 at 3:18 AM
I fell under the spell of GOT7 love them so much and I'm not a kpop or a pop fan in general.
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isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
January 2, 2018 at 6:14 AM
You are in good company. There are a few of us here.
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2 Junie Bug
January 1, 2018 at 8:14 PM
OMG THE PICTURE!! THE ICHYV FLASHBACKS!! I really enjoy reading these "Theme of the Month" entries because they are so much fun! I don't think I'm going to have the time to submit one, but, to whoever does, I wish you all the best and I look forward to reading yours!! And while doing so, add many more to my already long list of dramas....
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3 🍙 kimbap noona
January 1, 2018 at 8:24 PM
Love that the "Theme of the Month" is very on trend of legal dramas. Dramas may take away our social lives, but they'll never take our freedom....to defend our love for this extremely guilty pleasure!
Cannot wait to hear your voice, Beanies!
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Jenmole🍊
January 1, 2018 at 9:07 PM
Haha! I just noticed you changed your name again. How fitting for after the holidays! Happy New Year!
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🍙 kimbap noona
January 1, 2018 at 9:18 PM
Cheers to a happy new drama year @jenmole!!
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NP
January 2, 2018 at 1:21 AM
o_0 How'd you change your username? Please tell!
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🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 4:10 AM
Hi @naelap, click on your profile pic on top of the webpage and go to "account settings" where you can change your "display name". Good luck!
NP
January 2, 2018 at 4:15 AM
@KimbapAte2Much ahh thank you so much! :)
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4 mindy
January 1, 2018 at 8:32 PM
I don’t have an unpopular favorite that I feel strongly enough about (that I can think of) but I’m so looking forward to the entries! I love that the first theme of the year is such a positive one. It would be easy to do a theme about unpopular opinions in general, but that would likely bring so much negativity. And who wants that? Blegh.
Spread the love, Beanies! Convince me to give your underappreciated favorites a try, or make me see a show/actor I view with derision in a new light!
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5 WishfulToki
January 1, 2018 at 8:39 PM
I enjoyed the ending of Cheese In The Trap. There, I said it.
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🍙 kimbap noona
January 1, 2018 at 8:47 PM
😂😂😂 I commend you for finding the courage to let the cheese out of the trap.
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jozie
January 1, 2018 at 9:10 PM
I am thinking about trying to watch this one again now since the ending won't catch me off guard to see if I feel differently about it after a few years.
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HANI
January 3, 2018 at 5:26 PM
I did that. I thought I forgot but it seems that some of the feelings still there. It is not as raw but I did sigh ruefully (a lot) while watching it. And I still asking a lot of 'why'
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JustMe
January 1, 2018 at 9:16 PM
SAME! Im thinking of entering this essay just to talk about it
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parkchuna ❤️🍉
January 1, 2018 at 9:46 PM
i don't mind the ending if the lead-up to it had been done better.
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Sunflowerdiva
January 1, 2018 at 10:12 PM
Exactly. And all the behind the scenes drama just added to our utter disbelief... Maybe going back to rewatch CITT wouldn't be so bad since we won't be surprised this time around. :)
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Kdramahiatus
January 1, 2018 at 10:55 PM
I liked that ending too:) - I don't know what's the fuss about it. I even bought DVD of that show.
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missjb
January 2, 2018 at 12:31 AM
Me too me too. Haha.... It's fitting with the plot development, and because if they end up together with showing their happy ending for me won't be fitting
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Ally
January 2, 2018 at 5:25 AM
Maybe you can convnice me to watch it then. I’ve avoided that and BIG like the plague, in no small part because if the general consensus here.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 2, 2018 at 9:41 AM
Re BIG: Take the confusion, anger and feelings of pointlessness from Black and then magnify it 15000x until your emotions are white hot and you're in danger of destroying your television set, computer, modem and anything else that enabled you to watch it.
Don't watch Big.
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Ally
January 2, 2018 at 10:58 AM
Lol. I guess I shouldn’t be holding my breath for someone to defend BIG? Maybe one of our attorney-beanies would like to do it as an exercise?
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egads aka Dame Maggie
January 2, 2018 at 5:28 PM
That perfectly describes my experience with 2 episodes of BIG. Then I watched the last 10 minutes and I still don't understand what happened even after reading many recaps, posts, wails, and screeds about it.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 2, 2018 at 10:04 PM
NOTHING HAPPENED. The last two episodes were this slow unending realisation that nothing was going to happen - in slow motion.
The whole set up had this fascinating dilemma for the female lead in that the man she was in love with was physically really young and the body she was attracted to had a man she didn't really know. How did they deal with this fascinating moral quandary? They didn't. It was such a letdown.
WishfulToki
January 2, 2018 at 11:03 AM
Hehe, I haven't watched Big so I can't comment. I tried CITT during my teenage drama rebellion, precisely because the consensus was so negative. I think it's a pretty good drama for marathon: Kim Go Eun is amazing, the story is deeper than fluffy rom-com fare, the romance is not overblown, the OST is great. If you go into it warned that the ending is not to everyone's taste it's an enjoyable ride. It would be a shame to skip it.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 3, 2018 at 4:39 PM
I only discovered kdrama a year ago and so I watched CITT without knowing any of the controversy about it. I just love Park Hae Jin and was watching everything he was in.
About 3/4 of the way in I suddenly noticed that Park Hae Jin's character was missing. I thought it was really weird how all these relationship beats were with the second male lead. I wasn't sure what the show was saying, especially since the trap doesn't work as well when you're wondering where the cheese is.
The ending wasn't bad so much as bland and underwhelming. But I can name about two dramas where I thought the ending was really great so I wouldn't let a mediocre one stop me from watching.
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Grapes
January 2, 2018 at 12:38 PM
I liked and enjoyed Big and CITT except for the ending for both, I recommend you give them a try. I am sure you will enjoy Cheese but I don't know about Big because not too many like it here.
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Cocoa, The Fake Poet of February
January 2, 2018 at 5:38 AM
The floor is yours @wishfultoki to make your case for the ending. Your client is an underdog, to say the least, and one that I for one am convinced is irredeemably guilty, of causing tears of frustration and hours of disbelief trying to figure out why it went wrong.
But I will try to be fair and impartial, since this is now a cold case and my emotions should be less involved. ;) :P
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WishfulToki
January 2, 2018 at 11:07 AM
I won't have time to rewatch CITT's ending or write eloquent post, so anyone who wants to take up this case, feel free to do so!
But I think I understand your feelings. I am still bitter over the ending of BTIOFL. After weeks of thinking you know a drama, suddenly, bam! - it turns out you don't know it at all. Tears of rage and betrayal ensue.
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Cocoa, The Fake Poet of February
January 2, 2018 at 12:34 PM
CITT just felt so right for me in those first few episodes, maybe because it somehow tapped into my own feelings in that moment in time that I was watching it. So it hurt so much when it became, for me, angsty and typical.
Poor CITT, hopefully it gets a good public defender at least :)
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bogummyshipda
January 2, 2018 at 7:03 AM
I was expecting someone will talk about Cheese in the Trap 😂
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Flightey Gazelles
January 2, 2018 at 11:38 AM
I knew, just KNEW that CITT was gonna be mentioned here!
I've said it often that CITT is my The-One-Got-Away, the what-ifs are so strong, it used to make me clutch my chest at its appearance anywhere. Now, after over a year, I just sigh wistfully at its memory.
If you weren't very emotionally invested in CITT, then you can go, don't get the fuss...*shrugs*... or u can be perfectly okay with it, just another ending.
But CITT was such a sensitive show that even the littlest shift in direction was felt deeply. It was such a show that got you falling very, very deeply as if you were in a relationship that the heartbreak was epic, it wasn't smash-your-tv-and-laptop rage, but just sadness, confusion, anger, denial, bargain and then, heartbreak.
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Cocoa, The Fake Poet of February
January 2, 2018 at 12:35 PM
Same...
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HANI
January 3, 2018 at 5:19 PM
you sum it up perfectly~
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HANI
January 3, 2018 at 5:17 PM
Now that years has passed and I'm not so bitter seeing my fave webtoon get butchered and a hostile makeover shoved into it, I probably can join the discussion with....less feeling...? teehee
As a borderline anti-fan of that drama ( I super love the first half and it OSTs gives me warm fuzzy feeling), that ending is not that bad but the whole mess leading to that ending (in the drama) makes me wanna kimchi slap someone.
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rowanharper
January 3, 2018 at 11:39 PM
Right - I didn't have a problem with the ending because the 7 episodes leading up to it didn't leave much other choice. Really, it became a completely different story - with a different charecter arch starting at the half way point. The harder I fell for the first half, the deeper the disappoint I felt for the second half of the show.
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6 celine
January 1, 2018 at 8:42 PM
Oohhh excited to read the entries of beanies. This could open my eyes to dramas or noonas/oppas that just flew by my radar.
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jozie
January 1, 2018 at 9:11 PM
Ditto!
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7 Le__Ssy
January 1, 2018 at 9:38 PM
Interesting theme! I don't really have a drama that I strongly liked but was super unpopular. But I look forward to discovering underrated dramas from the articles! ^_^
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8 Del
January 1, 2018 at 9:42 PM
Interesting theme. I expect to see "Moon Lovers" since this drama is so polarizing, receiving a lot of criticism but garnering avid fans at the same time.
Perhaps, I may see Suzy somewhere as well. LOL.
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Kdramahiatus
January 1, 2018 at 10:22 PM
Moon Lovers was the only time in my 10 year lurking history (since Coffee Prince) were I disagreed with the Dramabeans year-end review in regards to the miscasting of IU as Hae Soo. Yes, I was so pissed off with the editors of this site (still haven't forgiven them until now!). However, I gladly respected the opinions of my fellow Beanies even it was different from my own viewing experience. As an international fan, I loved IU because of Moon Lovers. I was never a fan of K pop so I didn't know about her music before watching the show. I enjoyed her portrayal of Hae Soo so much and she achingly broke my heart when the show ended. It was not her fault that the plot was a mess and the director was obsessed with zooming in the camera up to her eye balls o_o and pores.
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BC
January 2, 2018 at 3:29 AM
I found IU great and natural. And she doesn't have any botox yet so it's a pleasure to watch her on screen.
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yjgclone
January 1, 2018 at 11:37 PM
The ending of Moon Lovers is fine as it is.
They don't need Wang So's reincarnation giving a handkerchief to Haesoo. It is fine with that.
The best thing they can do is to adapt the ending of the Chinese drama where the reincarnation of Hae Soo sees Wang So's but did not approach him because SHE KNOWS HE IS A DIFFERENT PERSON.
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Del
January 2, 2018 at 12:36 AM
Tbh, I have no complaint over the ending. In fact, I am glad that they were separated judging at how toxic their relationship were. Actually, I don't understand the angst what's with so many expecting a happy ending for both of them.
The reason I mentioned "Moon Lovers" is because how this drama widely panned for being such a hot mess with the chaotic writing and editing and yet still so addictive and stayed within you for a long long time. So I believe, for those who actually loved this show, it's a good chance to actually spell out those defense qualities because I do think ML deserves one.
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Orl
January 2, 2018 at 2:14 AM
Moon Lovers may look polarising because it was very criticized by some people here but this drama was still hugely popular, even on Dramabeans. Actually it was one of the most commented drama ever. I mean some episodes had 1000+ comments. I think this drama was flawed but had that special thing which makes everything super addictive despite all the flaws. I think in a way Goblin was more polarising.
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mikgoo
January 2, 2018 at 4:40 AM
I want to defend Suzy but it might not make the 500 words cut since all I can think of is, "it's not her fault for being pretty and popular and that she gets paired with all the hot and popular actors. To her credit, those actors managed to showcase their acting calibre while Suzy gets bashed for being not even at par. Despite that, well, she remains pretty and popular." LIFE.
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Del
January 2, 2018 at 5:42 AM
I have nothing against Suzy but I would rather for her to take on minor or supporting roles cause she is still far from ready to lead a drama. She should be humble enough to realize that she is not leading lady material just yet. Doing minor roles while learning to improve her acting until she is ready, I am sure many will be accepting to her actually headlining a drama.
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librarynerd
January 2, 2018 at 7:11 AM
Doing smaller roles would be a good way to get more respect and experience, however if I was in her place I don't think I could do that.
As a celebrity you could lose your popularity over night so I'm sure you would want to earn as much money as possible while you are popular.
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yjgclone
January 2, 2018 at 8:17 AM
There is no small roles though, only small actors/actresses. lol.
In defense with Suzy though, I think it was just her management that is bad on choosing projects. She can rather pick non-pivotal but crucial roles or pivotal role but with a lot of back-up ensemble drama.
mikgoo
January 4, 2018 at 6:14 AM
The "There is no small roles though, only small actors/actresses" is so true! Was it Judy Dench who won as Oscar for a movie she appeared in for like 5 mins or so?
DoubleFault
January 3, 2018 at 8:34 AM
I know this thread is about IU and Suzy but Taecyeon is much worse. I find him super handsome but I can't finish any drama that he's in because of his cringey acting. (For the record, I actually like IU. I think she's one of the better idol actors around. I absolutely adored her in The Producers.)
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mikgoo
January 4, 2018 at 6:07 AM
I loved IU in DH but when I saw her again in The Producers and in that first episode of hers, it felt draggy. I know she's acting like a primadonna but I felt like I'm suffering just from watching her act. Seriously, I felt tired during her scenes.
DoubleFault
January 4, 2018 at 10:30 AM
@mikgoo IU got a lot better in The Producers in the succeeding episodes. She was particularly stellar during the second half.
mindy
January 4, 2018 at 10:46 AM
Cindy was my favorite part of The Producers by the end! The scene with her crying in her bed when the 1N2D crew came to her house got me right in the heart!
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 2, 2018 at 9:45 AM
Would I have had so much of a problem with Suzy's performance in While You Were Sleeping if she wasn't playing against LJS?
She goes down in history for me as the only actor who doesn't have chemistry with a man I thought had chemistry with everything including passing motorists and inanimate objects.
It turns out LJS can convince me he's in love with a phone booth but not Suzy. I do blame Suzy.
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Alaskan
January 4, 2018 at 6:06 PM
But have you suffered through Doctor Stranger? I agree that Suzy had little to no chemistry with LJS. That lack of chemistry was one reason why I dropped While You Were Sleeping. (An overly predictable and repetitive story didn't help.) But I think that Jin Se Yun in Doctor Stranger takes the prize. It was worse than no chemistry; she had NEGATIVE chemistry with LJS, which I'm pretty sure that LJS would not have with a phone booth. The only reason I kept watching Doctor Stranger for as long as I did was because I kept hoping that LJS would ditch Jin Se Yun for the second lead, Kang So Ra. Alas, it was not to be and there are 10 hours of my life that I will never get back.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 4, 2018 at 6:29 PM
I have seen Doctor Stranger. I still remember the feeling of sitting through my first round of competitive surgery and wondering WTF I was watching. By the time they announced another round, I was just watching out of some sort of masochism.
I got to the end and the bad guys monologued "THIS IS MY PLAN" and I went, "That makes no sense".
LJS and PHJ were amazing but I also couldn't understand why he ended up with the woman he did when they spent so much time establishing his relationship with the ?second? female lead (I mean, she was the real female lead, right?).
When it comes to a kdrama childhood fantasy romance and a real adult woman, they'll opt for the childhood fantasy every single time.
I thought the person LJS had the most chemistry with in that was PHJ and was blithely writing a crack threesome fan fiction in my head the entire time. That show would have been terrible but way more fun.
Flightey Gazelles
January 2, 2018 at 11:44 AM
lol, this is such a hilarious defense and I can totally picture Lee Bo Young's character from IHYV above to say it in that lazy, sighing voice of hers, like its such a bother.
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9 lavanderlapin
January 1, 2018 at 10:07 PM
In the spirit of the theme of the month, I have a confession to make... I loved Warm and Cozy! I thought it was, well, warm and cozy. Maybe it's because it's the only Hong sisters' drama I've actually been able to watch all the way through, but I really truly enjoyed it!
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Ally
January 2, 2018 at 5:28 AM
I’ve always wanted to see this because of YYS. Maybe I will someday...
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Grapes
January 2, 2018 at 12:41 PM
Another confession I loved Big and Dr.Jin.
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10 fishnchips
January 1, 2018 at 10:07 PM
Dear days, I can practically hear the cackles ringing in the air as beanies near and far crack their knuckles and lean over their keyboards with a manic gleam in their eyes...
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Flightey Gazelles
January 2, 2018 at 11:46 AM
LMAO!!
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11 greenfields
January 1, 2018 at 10:20 PM
Err.. Is this the best theme for me to show off my legal skills? A brief in defense of... okay, time to get cracking on that keyboard! ^^
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WishfulToki
January 2, 2018 at 9:26 AM
Please do it! Time to show off all that legal jargon.
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greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 10:19 AM
Err... I got super excited, and sent a submission immediately, but not in legal jargon.
And then I realised it might not fit the theme. I went with 'drama that doesn't get enough credit' but it isn't particularly disliked either. Dunno if I can/should send another one. :p
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WishfulToki
January 2, 2018 at 10:55 AM
Cool, I hope it's gets published. :D
Also, I think you should send that rehabilitation essay on Truck of Doom with @cloggie and @kimbapnoona : 'Trucks Over Flowers.' 'Truck in the Trap'. 'The Lonely Shining Truck'. Goblin didn't help improve his image.
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greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 11:08 AM
More options: 'Are You a Truck too?', 'Mr. Trucktire', 'The Great Truck' and of course, 'Radio Truckmance'. I hear the last one is causing quite a furore owing to the large age gap - could this be the precursor to @redfox story on Mrs. Truck below? It doesn't seem to be helping Truck's image either.
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 11:10 AM
ROTFL at all the titles.....I am seeing a field of trampled flowers driven over by uri ToD🤣🤣🤣
How about ToD Stayed Out All Night or Remember -ToD's War?
Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 11:15 AM
I laughed so much at those titles, I'm literally crying.
In all seriousness, if we want to incorporate @redfox story, it will have to be a 50 episode drama. Maybe 'What Happens to my Truck?', 'All About My Truck' or 'Truck is Strange' would work. Just a thought.
redfox
January 2, 2018 at 11:25 AM
@cloggie: great historical figures always have multiple interpretations of their story.
Like "Shut up! Flower boy truck. - story of a cute killer who has a passion for elevator music." or "Six Flying Trucks".
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 11:38 AM
The 'Truck Social Revenge Club' or 'TruckOut' could be the name of the Villanous Organisation out to seek revenge on the Truck - he is a serial killer after all. But this is a story of Truck's redemption, and will surely end on a positive note for both - Truck and the Truck Social Revenge Club.
redfox
January 2, 2018 at 11:42 AM
another version could be a bit sinister.... you all know those tearjerker films of autistic geniuses who are misunderstood and isolated? but there is one teacher or doctor or honest policeman who believes in them? well potentially genius autistic killer truck and his supporter the gangster. at first it seems he´ll never hit anything but lamp posts. "You can do it! Run [over], truck, run [over]!" in the end he runs over everything on his way from Seattle to Boston and becomes famous. In the university of killer trucks, there is a memorial room...
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 11:48 AM
@redfox
So would a beloved character in Shut Up! Flower Boy Truck be killed by another ToD (maybe his evil twin) by the end of the 2nd episode?
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 11:55 AM
@greenfields
Truck Revenge Social Club? I like the idea of a trio of ahjumma trucks with a cutie patootie teenager truck puppy. It is not too late after all to make this drama a black comedy as you suggested earlier.
WishfulToki
January 2, 2018 at 11:59 AM
I think I will dream about flying trucks and trampled truck dreams tonight.
Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 12:55 PM
@greenfields and @kimbapnoona, It could be Revenge Social Truck about three Ahjummas and a Truck. All the revenge is quite petty but involves ToD as their method. Not killing anybody but driving into fences and into gardens. Bumping people into rivers. It could be the first non-violent project for ToD.
deadlybaby
January 2, 2018 at 5:47 PM
this entire truck thread is so confusing i feel like this is some kind of inside joke
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 5:55 PM
@babybeast Haha it is not an inside joke but the exchanges do look confusing. The discussion started in thread 20 and later in the day carried into thread 11.
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 6:22 PM
@kimbapnoona and @cloggie - oh! Three Ahjummas and a Truck is good. That would be the ending, I suppose? A reformed Truck? From running over people to working at Subway, and having found friends like family. A Black comedy -
thriller!
Cloggie
January 4, 2018 at 11:07 AM
I started writing Truck of Doom defense but the screencapping has left me mildly traumatised!
greenfields
January 4, 2018 at 5:49 PM
@cloggie - oh yay!! I'm so excited to read it, I can only tell you to persist regardless. 😁
Alaskan
January 4, 2018 at 6:12 PM
Don't forget Truck of Doom's close relative: Stupidly standing in the middle of the street with your mouth agape while Truck of Doom bears down on you.
Cloggie
January 4, 2018 at 10:35 PM
@greenfields, post is written and emailed to the Gods (should that be Goddesses?) of Dramabeans. Fingers crossed.
greenfields
January 4, 2018 at 10:38 PM
@cloggie - you amazing being, you! Can't wait to read it.
*bows in prayer to the dramagoddesses*
12 Kdramahiatus
January 1, 2018 at 10:31 PM
Now since this new thread topic will become the meeting of "DB Addicts Anonymous" I am the minority that didn't like Goblin and was really disgusted by the high school girl and ajusshi plot.
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Del
January 1, 2018 at 11:01 PM
I don't like Goblin either. Never get the hype surrounding this drama. I could not get passed 4 episodes. Kim Go Eun's portrayal made the female character even worse.
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Kdramahiatus
January 1, 2018 at 11:10 PM
I couldn't get passed episode 5.. Once Kim Go Eun uttering "saranghae ajusshi" my skin starts to crawl
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 2, 2018 at 9:34 AM
The hair on my arms just stood up thinking about it. So gross.
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missjb
January 2, 2018 at 12:36 AM
I think it's more about what you love but gets little recognition than something you hate but everyone else loving itkind of defense.
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diruri
January 2, 2018 at 2:44 AM
that's better, I don't want it to become a defense against the bad drama review either , that you just don't understand this drama so you think it's bad when drama has standard of what good and bad.
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hjw
January 2, 2018 at 5:52 AM
Just curious: how is a 900-year old fantasy creature an "ajusshi"? I never watched the show but my understanding is Gong Yoo played a goblin, not a human man.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 2, 2018 at 9:33 AM
Yes I'm more likely to have a widely popular drama that I hated than an unpopular one that I loved. All the dramas I love that didn't rate well tend to have a small loyal fanbase or be critically-acclaimed. And while I do have dramas I liked that were panned, I usually agree with the bad reviews. Sometimes you just like fast food even though you know it's bad for you.
Also, the borderline-paedophilia in Goblin was totally gross.
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Ally
January 2, 2018 at 9:36 AM
I’m sorry you felt that way. I thought of it more as two old souls finding each other, and I may also be transferring some real life love stories into this one. My best friend (who is my age) started dating her husband at 18 years old and he’s 12 years her senior. They’ve been married for almost 20 years. She’s the “mature” one in the relationship! Lol.
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Ally
January 2, 2018 at 9:43 AM
I just remembered, they actually went with me to Canada on our Goblin tour!
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mikgoo
March 23, 2018 at 6:17 AM
The story was good but the chemistry is not.
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13 giocare 🌻💛
January 1, 2018 at 10:53 PM
After binge-watching Money Flower, I take back all my prejudices against makjang dramas.
Also most of the dramas I tend to dislike are the really popular ones
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14 ObsessedMuch
January 1, 2018 at 10:59 PM
Ha! I am so looking forward to all the posts about- Cheese in the trap, Moonlovers, particular idol-actors, oooh Boys over Flowers obviously, Heirs, To the Beautiful You! What else? I swear I could write some on ones I mentioned! (plus Uncontrollably Fond and Missing 9 and what not)
Could probably write sth for shows/actors who are hugely popular but who I never loved as well... But I am a serial procrastinator and the last theme of the month is still sitting unfinished on my desktop screen. So I will probably just be reading the entries!
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15 Del
January 1, 2018 at 11:02 PM
If only I could write, I am thinking of "In defense of Lee Jun Ki's bad drama choices." Sigh. I feel bad for him. Hoping for his end of bad luck and getting good drama offers this year.
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isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
January 2, 2018 at 6:20 AM
Write it! This is not school and you won't be judged for you skill level. Beanieland is a safe place over all!
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deadlybaby
January 2, 2018 at 5:49 PM
^^^ yeah and you’ll have good content marks!!! i’m really looking forward, please do write your article!!
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persianrose❤️战哥
January 3, 2018 at 7:50 PM
English is not my 1st language but I can help you to write this because I recently rewatch all Lee Joon-gi dramas, so I have a fresh memory 😄the key thing wheathet he picked a good or bad drama he always did an excellent job and his characters are unforgetable, I mean who can forget Wang So?!
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Del
January 3, 2018 at 11:07 PM
He is my favourite. It upset me everytime that the dramas let him down and it's been so long since Two Weeks that his dramas did justice to his talent and effort.
You guys, please don't hang too much hope for me to write even when I wanted to 😅. Now I am scared 😳
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Orl
January 5, 2018 at 12:31 AM
I totally agree. His acting as Wang So was totally amazing and probably his best role so far. He was so invested in it that his charisma was exploding at every move.
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persianrose❤️战哥
January 8, 2018 at 10:29 AM
OMG his charisma! No prince/king can top that charisma ever
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16 hanbin
January 2, 2018 at 12:41 AM
BTLIOF ending. I will fight anyone who says bad things about my poor little kitten Jiho.
LOL.
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17 Peppy
January 2, 2018 at 1:40 AM
I will be among the minority that loves "heirs". It was not the best but I kinda enjoyed it, it was the drama that made me discover dramabeans. Hope someone will write in defense of it. 😀😀😀
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 9, 2018 at 4:49 PM
Heirs is always on my list of guilty pleasures. It had its faults, unquestionably, but it gave me all the right feels, and some of its characters were incredibly well drawn.
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18 keiru
January 2, 2018 at 2:07 AM
Ooh.. The theme seems to be in line with my personal experience as someone who was once (and I guess is still 😝) in the minority, but I'm not persuasive enough to describe my feelings and make others agree with me 😣. I'll try to write it, but I guess it will take a long time and it might end up in my privacy folder on my PC 😆
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19 diruri
January 2, 2018 at 2:40 AM
I hope this doesn't go to "essay to invalidate criticism since my favorite drama get bad review" when the drama is bad.
You can like a bad drama but don't posed it as objectively good, like saying the director of Moon Lovers did great since they make us see how flawless the actor pores.
Also how this drama is good, people just don't understand it.
I hope to find an underdog drama that never get the spotlight because it's isn't maintsream like what happen in sangcheori or bording house number 24.
I also hope that this can be appreciation post that also admitting the drama quality if they are bad, like bad storyline, illogical conclusions and miscast.
Unpopular opinion is unpopular because people don't agree but standard exist.
Loving heroin is unpopular but not something to defend.
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missjb
January 2, 2018 at 2:44 AM
Haha. If they make valid point why the drama is worth it, why not? But i agree, standard exist.
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Kdramahiatus
January 2, 2018 at 3:09 AM
I think the whole point is to defend relatively unpopular and prevailing opinions (postive or negative) about any shows, actors performance, and production. Dramabeans is opening the discussion to the stuff the readers of the site can comment on. So I guess everything goes? especially if the argument has validity.
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20 Orl
January 2, 2018 at 2:58 AM
I'm wondering if this theme was chosen because in Year-End review there was some threads about unpopular opinions unwelcomed in Dramabeans...
About this theme, can we also defend some tropes (example : in defense of second female lead) ?
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greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 3:31 AM
Yup. It seems to be a positive theme. Not diss something that is well loved, but defend something that is underrated or disliked or otherwise generally elicits groans. Like the Truck of Doom. I'm hoping someone will do a defense of Truck.
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Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 4:02 AM
I so want to read a defense of Truck of Doom, and his younger siblings:Car of Doom and Motorcycle of Doom, who I've recently seen getting more and more parts in dramas.
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alasecond
January 2, 2018 at 9:39 AM
the moment i read the theme of the month..i so knew someone was going to bring up the truck of doom
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🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 4:04 AM
It would be difficult to defend the Truck of Doom which is usually the harbinger of death (or amnesia), but I could more easily defend all the reckless cyclists or bikers who force the heroines into the arms of the heroes.
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Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 4:13 AM
Unfortunately ToD now constantly gets typecast as the baddy. He could extend his range and take some of those roles that the cyclists get.
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🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 4:25 AM
Come to think of it, ToD gets unfair share of the blame. Equal fault goes to the often non-reaction of pedestrians who stubbornly refuse to slightly step out of the way. Thank you @cloggie for altering the long-held view that is clearly an unjustified misconception.
How should we help the ToD to move out of the villain role? Maybe paint some pretty pink flowers on the body. Or maybe a working brake.
Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 4:34 AM
@kimbapnoona, I think he's really trying. That's why he took a bit-part in INAR and delivered Jia to MK's front door - without anybody dying! I think he could also do a good job with comedy. He always makes me laugh, even if that's not the intention.
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 5:26 AM
@cloggie I can never blame anyone who is giving his best! D for effort for ToD.
Let's help him first by rebranding.....how about Truck of Cute (or Truck of KeeeyOh rather)? Or maybe he can be one of MK's Pretties, uri Pretty maknae?
Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 5:53 AM
@kimbapAte2Much He should become one of MK's loved appliances, especially once MK realises the crucial role that ToD played in this romance. How about uri Pretty Truck?
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January 2, 2018 at 11:41 AM
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greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 6:07 AM
@kimbapnoona and @cloggie - Thank you for raising these very important points. If you may add, I am now firmly of the opinion that Truck deserves his own drama - his story told, his struggles as minor and often ridiculed character.
Truck, fighting!
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🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 6:35 AM
@greenfields and @cloggie -I suspect that he was bullied as a kid, now as an post-adolescent lashing out by roaming aimlessly (correction: roaming with perfect aim 😅).
Who is his first therefore fated love? Who will be holding an umbrella over his head when it rains? Who will he go to for ointment and bandages when getting scratches and dents? I want to know!!
Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 6:39 AM
@kimbapnoona - Or maybe he got damaged when a road collapsed under him as he was on his first delivery job and the dents have never been properly fixed. That's what drove him to this Life of Doom.
KdramaAhjumma
January 2, 2018 at 6:52 AM
@kimbapnoona, @greenfields and @cloggie, the three of you are ridiculous.....ly funny 🤣🤣
if I can upvote 10,000x, I would but alas... 😞
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 7:02 AM
@cloggie Road collapse? Do you mean that his life was ruined due to corruption, bribes from the construction company to government officials to turn a blind eye during inspection?
All along I thought this was a melodrama but it turned out to be a legal thriller! We need Shi-mok and Yeo-jin of Forest of Secrets to help.
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 8:05 AM
@kimbapnoona and @cloggie - surely it is a thriller, maybe even a noir. Think about it, Truck is essentially a serial killer. A drama from Truck's pov can only be a noir, or perhaps a Black comedy, but I think many of dramaland ' s characters would protest.
tsutsuloo
January 2, 2018 at 8:42 AM
@kimbapnoona, @greenfields and @cloggie—laughed so hard my abs hurt. First workout of the year. Fighting!
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 9:25 AM
@greenfields
Of course! How could I not recognize it before! ToD is a serial killer who dispose all of his victims' dead bodies, in, it, self. GENIUS!!
LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 2, 2018 at 9:37 AM
There is a rather disturbing Indie film called 'Rubber' I think you should watch.
Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 9:39 AM
@greenfields and @kimbapnoona, The brilliance of ToD as a serial killer is that he makes it look like an accident! Every single time. But clearly you must see that it's not really his fault. Someone else is always driving him to it.
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 10:14 AM
@cloggie and @kimbapnoona - OMG. Manipulation, mind control, eating dead bodies - how did Truck come to this? When did things go so horribly wrong in your life, Truck?!!! *cries*
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 10:16 AM
@cloggie LOL at "driven"
ToD is indeed a brilliant serial killer who has made appearances in countless sequels in dramas all over the world!
I understand that he has his reasons to kill and with a shattered past (as it becomes clearer and clearer today) he is perhaps easily manipulated by others. However I hope that he gets a growth arch and becomes a hero who would own up to his mistakes, you know, to murder (or manslaughter if you prefer.)
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 10:30 AM
@leetennant
OMG the trailer for Rubber is sheer awesomeness. A sentient tire named Robert serial murdering people by explosion using its mind? Count me in, especially when LA Weekly describes it as "batshit crazy".
Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 10:37 AM
@kimbapnoona and @leetennant, I just watched the trailer for 'Rubber' and the tire even has the obligatory shower scene! This is genius. Or I have gone insane.
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 10:44 AM
@cloggie - are you saying that Truck is not one being, but many? The tire has the obligatory shower scene? Without the rest of Truck? O_O Plot twist!!
OR does Truck have multiple personalities. If so, I know a pair of siblings and a chaebol who could help.
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 10:56 AM
@cloggie and @greenfields
Clearly we have gone insane, or maybe, just maybe, we three could make it as assistant writers in Dramaland.
With shower scene out of the way, uur next task would be to write the Subway PPL into the show.
redfox
January 2, 2018 at 10:56 AM
I would actually tell the story from Mrs. Trucks´ point of view, who wants to take her children the night food stands and leave her violent husband, who sniffs it out and locks her up in mad cars asylum, where her tires deflate. before she is dismantled she leaves a clue for the children where to find a secretly taken blackbox footage. The children get separated and one of them ends up on a street in a slum and the other in front of a bank building in Gangnam. the poor food stand tries to gather clues from the cars of people who stop to eat.
what happens next? Is the kids mother really dismantled or reborn with a changed look and new identity! Find out ... when MBC decides to air dramas again!
egads aka Dame Maggie
January 2, 2018 at 11:08 AM
What about truck who wants to break free from the ToD mafia by using his brakes and swerving to miss the idiot in the crosswalk, but is typecast and society won't let him? Will the love of a self-driving car show him how to live a life free of hit and runs?
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 11:14 AM
@kimbapnoona - Clearly we cannot have Truck driving into Subway. That would destroy the point of a ppl (unless Subway wants to play the villian. This is Truck's tale, he's the hero; so if he's driving into a Subway outlet, Suway is the villian)
Perhaps we can hint at character growth by having Truck kill and eat a Subway sandwich instead of the human/drama character walking out of Subway. The sandwich looked so tempting, Truck could not resist. And the taste of the Subway sandwich brought a new meaning to Truck's life! A revelation - that serial killing was perhaps not the right path for him.
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 11:16 AM
@egads Brilliant idea to incorporate the love line with a self-driving car! We can sell this pitch in a second given that this is a fantastic permutation of the recent robot trend,
Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 11:26 AM
@greenfields we can do the Subway PPL by having ToD become a Subway delivery vehicle as his first step on the road to rehabilitation. Or his favourite parking spot can be in front of the closest Subway, where he's always next to the self-driving vehicle. This will totally work.
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 11:27 AM
@kimbapnoona @cloggie @egads @redfox @wishfultoki (have I got everyone?) - I think we have a masterpiece on our hands. The Truck's Story, finally revealed unto the world. The Foreign Film Oscar will fall into our laps.
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 11:29 AM
@cloggie - that Subway PPL is brilliant! Truck's first legit efforts - a part-time delivery Truck at Subway. You're brilliant. This WILL totally work.
🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 11:35 AM
@cloggie and @greenfields
You two definitely would make it in Dramaland. You have already displayed Ji-ho level of panache for PPL writing as she did with Doo-joon in BTLIOF!
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 11:42 AM
@kimbapnoona - and where would we be without the essential reminder for a Subway PPL? You'd be a star writer.
(accidentally posted above)
greenfields
January 2, 2018 at 6:08 AM
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Safeenah
January 3, 2018 at 12:15 AM
or recently makes the heroine throw frying pans and bicycles...
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mary
January 2, 2018 at 3:45 AM
Sure! It'd be great if you can defend 2nd female leads! They don't get enough ♥
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🍙 kimbap noona
January 2, 2018 at 6:09 AM
One may argue that the reason SFLs refuse to leave triangle-shaped relationships because they didn’t get enough ❤️ as children.
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21 BC
January 2, 2018 at 3:31 AM
I would like to talk about this thing: There're lots of good actresses and actors there, but because of using botox ( which is not anymore considered as plastic surgery procedure, they were doing it in royal courts for ages when they discovered the effects of snake poison, it was very popular back then as well) they can act just with a glance of their eyes and no mimicking. It's like watching Nicole Kidman which I loved from Bangkok Hilton tv series. She lost her expressions and had to compensate it with something else. And I have this feeling about most of the lead actors and actresses in South Korea as well. What about you? Do you find it disturbing?
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Jig
January 3, 2018 at 11:09 AM
I don't think that has to do with botox. I think that's just a cultural difference in acting and emoting. Part of why I feel in love with kdramas was how so much could be said with the eyes that I never noticed in American media. For example, an American actor's would dramatically scrunch up their face and drastically turn down their lips to cry, but to me the Korean actor's far off look with the single tear running down his/her cheek is much more emotionally impactful. Of course if you've seen it enough times sometimes it can just get cheesy/cliche, but there are still times where it's done well that it just hits you in the gut. Neither way is "wrong". It's just a matter of which one speaks to you.
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BC
January 3, 2018 at 2:02 PM
Crying sceens were somehow cringy in the past in kdramas. I remember when some of the portrayed women were crying, they were making this cringy voice, like children who are not having things their way. I watched it mute, because I'm watching kdramas in the night time. I can't disturbe anybody, so I didn't notice this tantrum noise until I started to use earphones. I'm quite surprised, so happy that it changed now and one tear falling can speak for everything and the sadness expressed in the eyes as well. For me it is an acting standard and always was. That's why I prefer indie movies to blockbusters - that's how I came to love some great actors who I would originaly refuse, thinking about them, that they're just these sweet Dorians Grays for fungirling.
I don't mind little cosmetic retouches, just when it is overdone and people look like a plastic doll I would say "what a waste". I understand that to keep young complextion is something must in the society in which when you turn 30 you're considered old. But why all those scripts are using so young people to do the job of somebody in their 30's or 40's - I think most of the Koreans finish their university degree in their midtwenties of korean age and they have this age based rank system as well so how can anybody in their early twenties be a top manager, great judge or attorney or... But that's another story.
To come back to my question was that it's such a pity that all those negative characters seems to be the same - they make the same gestures, same hate glances, there's something missing behind this masks. I would love to see some Messerschmidt faces sometimes.
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22 alasecond
January 2, 2018 at 5:33 AM
lol LBY .. perfect for this theme.. who can convince me that she is a good actress?
whisper was BAD in caps.. and IHYV also over rated
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 3, 2018 at 4:50 PM
IHYV is the prefect example of how an OTP can save even the silliest drama. Like, would we all secretly love Do Bong Soon without the glory that is Ah Min Hyuk? No. No, we would not.
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alasecond
January 3, 2018 at 4:56 PM
hm.. i didnt like swdbs :( but gud acting can be appreciated.. and leads were good.. but i never finished that drama..
however, the two series where i have seen LBY.. for me she is epic fail and the other drama is over rated because of not so awesome plot and LBY
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23 isa: I'm not a serial killer I'm just really passionate about things
January 2, 2018 at 6:11 AM
This theme just seems dangerous.
Maybe that's because my first thought were the dramas that got so much love and were overrated and overhyped. In my opinion, of course.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 3, 2018 at 4:53 PM
I'm trying not to just write a rebuttal to the "Fix the Ending' theme from last time. I think W Two Worlds was amazing but I don't just want to counter the last thing someone wrote about it.
You can love something and also agree with its bad reviews. Like Highschool King of Savvy, which I've watched about three times even though it's ridiculous. I know it's ridiculous. I still can't stop watching it.
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24 SW unnie
January 2, 2018 at 6:35 AM
For me this would be Temperature of Love
I know many dropped this drama in the middle but I love the whole drama to bits! Especially their dialogues were always meaningful to me. Even when the characters were frustrating, for me their faults and sometimes stupid decisions made them more human and relateable.
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25 mary
January 2, 2018 at 6:40 AM
I'm still thinking about my topic! But since there's so much confusion in this thread, I made a list of things I'm hoping to see from beanies:
- How DOTS and Goblin's high ratings, even if they're "overrated", can influence the move towards pre-production
- How second-lead actresses deserve love because it's hard to get a big break because they're always so poorly written, unlike 2nd lead guys who catapult to fame because they're usually swoony
- How late subs can force you to study Hangul or learn patience or finish chores and homework
- How you loved some unpopular endings (CIIT, Moon Lovers, God's Gift, etc) because they meant something different to you
- How makjang or fluff or wtf comedy, which isn't taken seriously by some, is useful to you (an escape, a distraction...)
You can totally deviate from this, of course. Feel free to defend a k-drama-related issue you feel strongly about.
Let's not do preemptive negation of possible cases people want to present. :( This month is a chance for us to listen to each other and understand the other side of the coin. Even if we end up still disagreeing with them, let's disagree in a civil way.
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January 2, 2018 at 9:01 AM
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librarynerd
January 2, 2018 at 9:07 AM
I would love if someone wrote about how different make and female second leads are (often) constructed.
*deleted my previous comment because how non-eloquent it was*
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Orl
January 5, 2018 at 12:34 AM
I'm going to write about second female leads (female characters crushing on the male lead in general). It's a topic I wanted to write about for a long time!
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26 moo
January 2, 2018 at 7:26 AM
It is off topic. Sorry. Did girlfriday and javabeans say they will not do the award shows anymore? I always love reading those.
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blessingwind
January 4, 2018 at 12:12 AM
i was about to ask that question too. I love when JB and GF do award shows. Those posts are so entertaining.
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kanzcech
January 5, 2018 at 3:15 PM
Me too. I've been waiting to read award shows posts T.T
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27 poliwag
January 2, 2018 at 8:31 AM
I love this song, this was made for me
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28 missjb
January 2, 2018 at 11:42 AM
I would love to read someone defend noble idiocy. Everytime NI got used as a plot. They always got mocked,poor them!
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mary
January 2, 2018 at 1:09 PM
Oooooh good one!
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lotus
January 3, 2018 at 10:18 AM
I'd love to read this post.
I am in need of convincing that this routine is indeed noble and not some plain idiotic route the leads seem to be taking when things go south.
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29 redfox
January 2, 2018 at 1:44 PM
I think I would defend the clichés based on the example of Jugglers . clichés need to be there to be turned around, given double meaning, used in an unexpected situation, camouflaging an important thing a writer has to say, hiding lines that would otherwise get cut, clichés are a disguise to actually be sneaky. this is what Jugglers is doing. it is using the tropes, but like our acting teacher said in Seaplane Harbour (yes, we have one): you can tell the story of a little red riding hood a hundred times, the effect depends on how you build it up , where you start and when you end. so using a familiar set-up if done right can still be brilliant and novel. or if you mess it up, it can feel like more of a disaster than a cliché being a cliché (Revolutionary Love)
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 3, 2018 at 4:58 PM
I think you're seeing something in Jugglers that I am not. I made it to episode 6 and that was two episodes too many. I was actively rooting for the main couple to NOT get together. I didn't believe in their romance but I also felt there was something disturbing about it.
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30 Jiji
January 2, 2018 at 4:40 PM
Does Faith count as an unpopular drama? Because I can unleash an epic Ode to the Woodalchi if I need to.
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Flightey Gazelles
January 4, 2018 at 12:20 AM
Oh I totally lived Faith and Kim Hee Sun was so hilarious in it, I fell in love with her Eun Soo. Its my sister's and kid sister's favourite drama. Kid sister has a crush on Woodalchi Choi Young.
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Alaskan
January 4, 2018 at 6:16 PM
Ha. The first drama that came to mind when I read the topic was Faith. I see lots of things wrong with it but I loved it and rewatch it anyways. Please write an Epic Ode!
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Alaskan
January 5, 2018 at 2:48 AM
Okay, I wrote an Ode to Faith for fun but it is far from epic. It is pretty bad, in fact, and I don't know whether I have the courage to submit it.
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Jiji
January 5, 2018 at 4:48 AM
I might take a crack at it this weekend -- just to have an excuse to watch the highlights again. But you should definitely submit it!
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Flightey Gazelles
January 5, 2018 at 9:31 AM
Please, please do! I will read( and LOVE) any defence of Faith.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
January 9, 2018 at 4:53 PM
OMG yes please submit it!! Faith was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this topic, too. And now I'm so excited to see a few like-minded beanies :D It has its problems, like you say, but I love it so so much -- and it's definitely one of my most favorites to rewatch.
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yayabean
January 10, 2018 at 12:16 PM
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31 Wordless
January 2, 2018 at 5:23 PM
Spoilers for She Was Pretty. Second Lead Syndrome.
I don’t know if this is necessarily an unpopular opinion but here goes. I absolutely loved She Was Pretty, it was funny and cute and didn’t take itself too seriously. However I hated the pairing in it. Kim Hye Jin and Jin Sung Joon were completely mismatched and lacked the chemistry she had with Kim Shin Hyuk. Kim Shin Hyuk (Siwon) lit up the screen every time he appeared and his affection for Kim Hye Jin was so genuine, sure he teased her mercilessly but he didn’t treat her any less like a person due to her looks. I loved his nickname for her Jackson, like every single one of their interactions were adorable. Jin Sung Joon on the other hand was just so bleeh, the character did develop and at the end I liked how he became a nicer person but the way he treated Kim Hye Jin at the start was unfair, and the fact he was worse to her because she shared a name with his childhood crush (spoiler - she is her just not pretty anymore) totally childish. And honestly I hate how dramas always tend to choose childhood lives over real life affection and chemistry. Sure you like someone when you’re a kid but how many people actually follow through with that. And when you have an option like Kim Shin Hyuk (okay he was a slob but oh so charming and in the end not what he appeared to be), he’s a lot like Kim Hye Jin not so pretty outlook but a heart of gold.
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32 Wordless
January 2, 2018 at 5:37 PM
Second Unpopular opinion
I hated Black. I got to episode 7 and had to quit. I just read recaps of each episode to find out what happened and apparently the ending is pretty unsatisfactory. I think the drama had so much promise but Go Ara was sooooo annoying. For example in the early episodes when she finds out Han Moo Gang after the accident is her childhood love Joon, she constantly calls him Joonie Oppa even when he says clearly that’s not him. His ID says he’s Han Moo Gang and he’s suffering from a gun shot wound so it’s actually probably detrimental to him to be a constant annoyance like that. Honestly Go Ara’s character was so pathetic, you’d think going through so many years by herself would make her more independent and give her a better survival instinct. I’m actually surprised she didn’t get herself killed before meeting Black.
The story itself while interesting was way too convoluted to be believable. I know it’s a supernatural drama but like the amount of crap that went down in this small town and how hey all tie together so neatly is just ridiculous.
There was honestly no need to make this a drama anyway. It would have worked so much better without the forced romance element. And considering Joon was meant to be in love with Soo- wan, I’m surprised that didn’t have more of an affect on Black during the course of events.
Like this drama is so bleak anyway. Everybody is evil it seems, and not worthy of saving except the kids.
I wanted to like this. I thought reading the recaps would encourage me to continue but I’m so glad I didn’t waste my time.
Guys if you want a good drama go watch Strangers 비밀의 숲. Yes the plot is ridiculously convoluted too but the execution is amazing. And this is a drama with a female lead who isn’t whiny. Thank god for Bae Doona. The lead male played by Jo Seung Woo is so intriguing. I was on the edge of my seat watching. Plus the ending actually works!!
Okay I’m rambling now but if anybody has any drama recommendations like Strangers please let me know.
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Charlotte
January 2, 2018 at 6:20 PM
At least try Jang Hyuk's latest: Money Flower. If you liked the hero of Secret Forrest, then you'll likely fall for this one...he's calm, cold and brilliant with a silence that yells out that he's wounded. It has the same brisk tone and moody mysteriousness as Secret Forrest plus there is an insight into the crossover between politics and corporate corruption, with very human, layered good and bad guys plus a very precarious love relationship. I'm on episode 13 and still can't guess what's at the end of this twisty revenge tunnel!
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Cloggie
January 2, 2018 at 10:59 PM
Hating Black is not an Unpopular Opinion but Common Wisdom. Be glad you gave up by episode 7. Those of us who stuck around for longer are scarred for life.
That said, I would love to hear from someone who thought that was a great ending or who could even make sense of it. But I will suspect anybody who's willing to defend Black of being the writer's mum.
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Safeenah
January 3, 2018 at 12:20 AM
I don't know what happened but I didn't even finish the first episode..
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kapp70
January 3, 2018 at 6:26 AM
I liked Black despite the ending. I had no idea it was supposed to be hated.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
January 3, 2018 at 5:03 PM
My spurned, destroyed love of Black has scarred me for life. If only the ultimate sacrifice did lead to inexplicable time travel. I'd send Loser Leo back to stop me from watching it.
Trauma wise though it's not as bad as Big. But only because I loved until the last 15 minutes and it took me a full week to realise how much I'd been screwed.
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Cloggie
January 4, 2018 at 12:16 AM
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HANI
January 4, 2018 at 5:59 PM
I'm laughing and crying at the same time.
Wisdom came but I shooed it away. What it says about me huh..?
I hate Black and its few first episodes and I agree Haram is so darn annoying with her Joon Oppa~
But I get sucked into all those absurd conspiracies plot and wanted to see how they end things. Jokes on me, obviously.
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lotus
January 3, 2018 at 10:34 AM
I watched until Episode 3 and then #CommonWisdom (brilliantly put, @cloggie ) saved me from going further.
Go Ara ruined Hwarang for me but I still decided to give Black a chance because "Surely, there's no way she could ruin two consecutive shows... right?"... and then she did. Sigh :/
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33 Mayaa
January 3, 2018 at 12:44 AM
Does anyone else think that living up to your name is underrated because I would love to write about that show
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34 SojuSommelier
January 3, 2018 at 4:47 AM
Can someone write about "The Producers"? I cannot write an elaborate essay to "defend it," but I can enumerate some of the reasons why it's an "underrated overrated" drama. lol
1.Despite its flaws, I think it's actually a good drama that depicted the Korean entertainment industry albeit lacking and overly-simplified.
2. The shipping of fans annoyed the hell out of me. Based on characterization alone, there is no way Baek Seung-chan will end up with Tak Ye-jin despite how the writers want to make it a noona romance.
3. I think Cha Tae-hyun and Gong Hyo-jin are the most natural actors I've ever seen, and they pulled off the role of BFF. CTH wasn't under-utilized despite what other viewers thought.
4. Best role for IU. Period.
5. They should have stick with the mockumentary format, but I think the main plot is still there.
6. I want to know what was the original idea of the writer for the story. CTH mentioned that they used backup scripts depending on how the viewers would respond to the episodes.
I couldn't think of more as of writing, but I feel like people expected the drama to be like "Misaeng" because they promoted it as a workplace drama. But I still love the drama despite its flaws.
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Flightey Gazelles
January 4, 2018 at 12:12 AM
I recently started a rewatch of The Producers, and where I found it boring, couldn't get the meta cause I was new to drama watching, I found it Laugh-Out-Loud funny, the second time since I had become familiar with all the actors this time(whereas the first time, I didn't know anyone except that unreliable boss lol).
And yes, IU was definitely the breakout of the show. That was my introduction to her and from the very first time she appeared , spoke in that sighy, couldn't-be-bothered-with-life deadpan voice, I loved her immediately.
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35 mary
January 3, 2018 at 9:04 AM
Y'all have lots of good ideas in this thread. Just polish up your comments and send them in to hello@dramabeans.com. Don't be shy! :D
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36 matcha
January 7, 2018 at 7:26 PM
Though I'm well aware and completely understand the dislike towards Doctors/Doctor Crush: age gap, teacher-student pairing, lack of a plotline...I can't help stop myself from rewatching that drama
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37 moondane
January 7, 2018 at 8:52 PM
I'm not really good with words (and defending), so I'll just comment here. I liked Big (I KNOW) for some of its moments. I had one of its bgm as my ringtone for years (just realized that I did not transfer it to my current cp (∥ ̄■ ̄∥)) ).
When Gong Yoo's being the high school kid, he IS that high school kid. Which is funnier now because he's literally an old soul in Goblin.
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38 moondane
January 7, 2018 at 9:24 PM
A follow up: Moon Lovers - just Jun-ki though, but everyone's already aware of that!
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39 JustMe
January 9, 2018 at 9:26 PM
Does anyone know if they take all submissions?
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