[One True Pairings] From subordinate to friend to brother to lover
by Guest Beanie
Coffee Prince
By @Ally
My all-time-favorite OTPs all start out as boys attracted to supposed boys. Truthfully, I’m at a loss as to why that is. I’m not homosexual myself, and have never been attracted to the same sex (except for Lee El, but you’re not alive if you don’t think that woman is gorgeous). However, the OTPs that my heart beats for are both gender-benders and played convincingly at that. And since javabeans asked, and since it has been bugging me a bit, I sat down and analyzed just why this was.
I’ve only seen two K-dramas that fit into this category: Coffee Prince and Moonlight Drawn by Clouds. Both were riveting and the OTPs were so convincing that there was no second lead syndrome, even as our second leads both knew the actual gender of the girl-boy and liked them as the correct sex. I think what makes same sex relationships in K-dramas so compelling is the fact that they are forbidden, so our leads have to figure out a way to love each other, first in a socially acceptable way, then just throwing all societal pressures out the window and just love for love’s sake. And, in doing so, their love is actually deeper and more meaningful than it would have been otherwise. Denial sometimes makes the heart grow fonder.
Moonlight Drawn by Clouds
Our cross-dressing heroines both start out on a much lower power level than their clueless-about-their-gender counterparts. They are subordinates in social standing, wealth, education, and even physically smaller. Our heroes are condescending towards them, becoming almost verbally and even physically abusive at times. But just enough for us viewers to say, “Hey, wait, you wouldn’t do that if you knew they were female!” And not enough to actually hurt our strong women, used to being “one of the boys.” However, very cleverly, the hate-hate relationship they have at the beginning of their love stories serve as a purposeful set up to how far they will come to love and respect one another, especially on the part of the heroes, who have the most growth coming.
When we meet Choi Han-gyul in Coffee Prince, he’s a playboy who is pressured to marry, so pretends to be gay to delay the inevitable, which is a suitable power match between prominent families. Coincidentally, he meets someone who is willing to play the lover part, in a girl who is pretending to be male to support her own family, Go Eun-chan. Even after he’s found out to be lying, he has already grown fond of her, and she’s of course already attracted to him (Hello! It’s Gong Yoo!). Both characters go through the complex and convoluted maze that is falling in love from then on. But, for me, it was all about Han-gyul and the inner struggle he has for the rest of the drama.
Coffee Prince
In Moonlight Drawn by Clouds, the set up is similar, but in a very different time and the stakes are even higher, as death besets anyone who is lying (or protecting that liar) to the royal court. That’s where we find Hong Ra-on who has been forced by her mother to be a boy, to protect herself and her family, literally thrown into the role of eunuch to the royal family. And to continue to live, she has to continue to play this part, but catches the eye of a very adorable, very available Crown Prince Yeong in the process. (Hello, it’s Bo-gum!)
Our OTPs then mature into helping each other out navigating life, the palace, or otherwise. And because our heroines are already seen as male, our heroes can be themselves, not the best version of themselves that you would be trying to woo a potential mate. And even as the girls are deceptive, our leading men are honest to a fault, and a true friendship emerges.
Moonlight Drawn by Clouds
Throughout both cases of mistaken identities, our heroines have to act the part, and the more convincingly, the better. Our heroes have no idea what type of feelings they have for them, how much they actually care for them, and because they are sure they are the same sex, they first mistakenly feel that they love them as younger brothers, wanting to protect them as the older brother or as a prince to a favorite servant. However, that change in intimacy also serves as excuse for more skinship.
One of the most poignant scenes for me was the playful scene in Coffee Prince, when both Eun-chan and Han-gyul state that they just need to be with each other in voiceovers, and if it is as brothers, then so be it. They’ve gone from friends to something more, but since Han-gyul is still struggling with loving another male romantically, he settles on brothers. And it works to allow more flirting between the two of them.
It was the lantern scene in Moonlight Drawn by Clouds where Prince Yeong pulls Ra-on next to him, declaring she was “his person,” that we see that he loves her, more than just as a friend or confidant. Both these couples did an amazing job turning up the heat with just standing next to each other, so we all knew that a platonic relationship would never work out. You start giving each other permission to be in that privacy bubble and, well, we know what happens when there are already sparks between you. Let’s just say something is bound to catch fire.
Moonlight Drawn by Clouds
And playing with fire is exactly what our heroes end up doing, both to the point where they declare that society be damned, their powerful positions be damned, men, women, and aliens all be damned, even death be damned! Love is love and that’s all that matters. By this point, our heroes know what these heroines are capable of, how much pain they can and do endure, how hard working and industrious they are, and how much they genuinely care about others and can charm their way into everyone’s hearts around them.
But what makes these loves the most compelling are how organic they feel. The attraction is early, but acting on it is late, so it makes us anticipate every look, every touch, every kiss, and it doesn’t hurt that the actors have talent oozing out of every pore of their being and it’s easy to believe them. What makes me keep rewatching both of these dramas is how much our heroes grow in the process, from boys playing at life, to caring deeply for another human being, no matter the social standing, class, education, family ties, or even gender. Would we all have that kind of unconditional love.
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1 Ally
February 27, 2018 at 8:24 PM
Thank you, again. This piece is the direct antithesis of @greenfields piece, so I was wondering if you all would put them back to back. And you did. Thank you.
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greenfields
February 27, 2018 at 9:57 PM
Great post @ally-le! Just wanted to say I loved Coffee Prince but dropped Moonlight. ^^; The trope itself does nothing for me, but I do enjoy onscreen same-sex romances in much the same way that I enjoy onscreen heterosexual romances.
With Coffee Prince, what I found truly iconic was Han Gyul's reaction when he found out that Eun Chan is in fact, female. He was angry and felt betrayed. 'Ah, that's how much he loved the male Eun Chan, who never existed' is what I thought. It was very beautifully done.
Also, yup: the suborinate-to-lover part is indeed an antithesis to my piece but there isn't always a power imbalance in such relationships (though in the case of these two dramas, there is, and this is where we differ haha ^^)
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Ally
February 27, 2018 at 10:04 PM
When I read yours, I was like, OMG! What is this? You started off with Coffee Prince as well! I really did like your take on power imbalance. And it can be tricky. However, in both these dramas, whatever imbalance is there in the first place gives way to mutual love and respect, which I think is the hallmark of all lasting and healthy relationships.
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allphryne
February 27, 2018 at 10:11 PM
Yes, respect. Love is great, but respect makes it last.
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greenfields
February 27, 2018 at 10:37 PM
True that - and look frankly speaking, there are cultures/people that believe the power imbalance is a necessary part of relationships. I'm referring specifically to mine here - where women were/are expected to stay at home, to not have sexual desires, to be saints and to be dependant on their husbands. So the power imbalance doesn't get in the way of a lasting relationship; but all I'm saying is that I personally don't think a power imbalance is a good thing.
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Ally
February 27, 2018 at 10:59 PM
And I respect that! It can definitely be abused, I get that. Probably more often than not in certain cultures. I’ve seen it too, but women can be empowered to overcome these. We’re getting there, but it is a slow road and I appreciate the examples we are given that give hope to those who feel this imbalance. You can and should expect more respect from your partner, even if he’s more powerful. With that, I’ll get off my soap box now. 😊
greenfields
February 27, 2018 at 11:12 PM
Very, very true! Empowerment + learning by example are things that can and should happen.
*hugs* :D
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KSKalways
March 1, 2018 at 11:31 AM
With Coffee Prince, what I found truly iconic was Han Gyul's reaction when he found out that Eun Chan is in fact, female. He was angry and felt betrayed. 'Ah, that's how much he loved the male Eun Chan, who never existed' is what I thought. It was very beautifully done.
the betrayal was so hurtful !! I still remember it, even after years!
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2 🧛♂️ 💔💔 but 👧💔💔💔💔
February 27, 2018 at 8:25 PM
i loves Coffee Prince for exact same reason as you explained above. Han Gyul love Eun Chan for what she (he) was. He never tried to let go his love for societal pressure. he was strong character all along to fight all odds.
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3 Alyn
February 27, 2018 at 9:12 PM
I love gender-bender romances too. It is one of my favorite tropes. The first Asian drama I watched was the Hana Kimi, the Taiwanese version :) Probably my favorite gender-bender Korean drama is Sungkyunkwan Scandal. It was hilarious watching the main lead try not to fall in love with her!
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Ally
February 27, 2018 at 9:29 PM
If I had a clone, I would totally watch Sungkuymkwan Scandal while my clone did all my work!
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Delurker
February 28, 2018 at 2:35 AM
No excuses :-))) Sungkyunkwan Scandal is priority homework for any beanie worth her salt :-p . My own introduction to both Song Joong-ki and Yoo Ah-in, and I still don't know which one was my favourite... :-)
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Ally
February 28, 2018 at 7:51 AM
🤣 OK! On the terminal list it goes!
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bbstl 🧹
February 28, 2018 at 10:07 PM
Girl. It's a must-watch! 😮 Ballee!!
4 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
February 27, 2018 at 10:03 PM
I really love Coffee Prince. I only watched it because it's considered a classic so I had no expectations. I wasn't expecting it to be so profound, so intelligent and so powerful. It's quiet and subtle and nuanced and that's what I love about it.
I find with a lot of gender bending shows (and I haven't seen Moonlight Drawn by Clouds) the women's gender gets revealed as a kind of 'reward' for the male's fidelity and so he can't be angry at the lies because he's too relieved. I really hate that, and not just because it's offensively heteronormative. It's just one of the reasons I love Coffee Prince.
He was willing to love her even though he thought she was a man but was furious with her when he found out she was a woman.
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Ally
February 27, 2018 at 10:11 PM
Absolutely, I agree. I felt her betrayal as well, and Gong Yoo emotes this with perfection, probably better than I have ever seen anyone do before or since. She was also cavalier about it, which I think was more a maturity issue for her. He had all this growth, and she barely grew at all. I wouldn't say barely, but definitely not as much. And I haven't seen any of the heteronormative dramas where the hero is rewarded for his fidelity, so can't comment much there. Moonlight may have been this way, but there was too much cute between the OTP's for me to really concentrate on the societal cues they were trying to convey!
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Delurker
February 28, 2018 at 2:50 AM
I liked Gong Yoo's portrayal of the whole process, from his moment of existential crisis (as opposed to simple social shame), shut up at home, to his proclaiming "she's a girl!" to random strangers when he managed to forgive her. :-) It was all beautifully done.
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5 allphryne
February 27, 2018 at 10:07 PM
All of the mentioned reasons correspond with mine. I will just add one-that while oblivious to the real sex of the girl, these boys get to a much deeper level of understanding her. Real life serves too many men disrespecting women in some way because their feelings are simply too complicated or they tend to not trust them entitely. But here they see their girl as a friend and human being before the atraction kicks in.
This is so well written, I couldn't articulate it better. Congrats to getting published!
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Ally
February 27, 2018 at 10:15 PM
Thanks! Writing is good for my mind and my soul. It allows me to organize things in my brain, and I really had no idea why I liked these two dramas until I sat down and made myself think about it. I love stories when the couple loves each other from the inside out, which these both did.
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allphryne
February 27, 2018 at 10:21 PM
Ha, from the inside out, nicely put.
I haven't writen anything in years, it might be good to do some organizing on my own.
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6 whoopeeyoo
February 27, 2018 at 10:56 PM
@ally-le, you really do have a way with words. What a great piece! Also, I haven't seen Moonlight Drawn Over the Clouds and I didn't think I could be convinced to do so (tried the first episode and I felt nothing, I guess it didn't help that I'm not attracted to Bo-gum OMG IS THAT BLASPHEMY) but hello, you just made me rethink that decision. Hahaha!
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Ally
February 27, 2018 at 11:15 PM
I took me at least two episodes to truly delight in Moonlight! It wasn’t until the cheeky prince kept doing whatever it took to keep Ra-on passing all her tests to become a eunach did I fall for it. As my nurses tell me, I could convince an Eskimo to buy ice and they’re probably not exaggerating...too much.
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whoopeeyoo
February 27, 2018 at 11:20 PM
Two episodes, okay, I'll give it another chance. Maybe this time around I'll be charmed. My mom loved it and she couldn't understand why I left her room after the first episode (we saw the pilot together).
And this is only through words on a screen, Ally! What if you gave a talk on all the dramas we should be watching. I think we'll queue them right up even though you're still talking. Haha!
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Tizzy
February 28, 2018 at 10:09 AM
You should watch Moonlight! So beautiful, it’s on my Top 10, and I’ve watched more than a hundred dramas.
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7 mano
February 27, 2018 at 10:59 PM
Cross-dressing/gender bender has been my favorite tropes for decades. I think the first one for me was Tootsie though now I kinda have blurred memory about it. about a decade later, I sobbed in the theater watching the tragic story of Brandon Teena in Boys Don't Cry. It remains one of my favorite movies of all time despite it's not really popular among viewers except for Hillary Swank's performance in it. I knew instantly that I will enjoy Coffee Prince when I watched the first episode then it became my top kdrama for a very long time.
I agree with everything Ally said in this piece, but I also have my personal reason why I like these movies and dramas. I believe that everybody can love anybody regardless their gender and sexuality. I also believe sexuality is not cut and dried (I'm not someone from medical or psychological fields so I can be wrong). It's an idealist view of love that I know I will never find anybody in real life (I mean real real life, not online real life) agree with me. So watching drama/movies with this trope make me feel that I'm not that wrong.
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Ally
February 27, 2018 at 11:08 PM
I loved Hillary Swank’s portrayal in Boys Don’t Cry too. It was heartwrenchingly real. We are who we are. I’ve had to change my views several times about homosexuality, but truly believe in the power of love and forgiveness. I have good friends who have lived through “coming out” and I love them even more now that they have done so. It’s not everyone’s view, but it is real, and there are plenty of real people who believe the way you do.
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8 amyam
February 28, 2018 at 12:26 AM
For anyone who's looking for a Taiwanese drama gender-bender, I'd recommend Bromance (2015) hands down. It's my absolute favourite drama that I'll keep coming back to. Added bonus: the OTP has amazing on-screen and behind the scenes chemistry too!
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Ally
February 28, 2018 at 4:52 AM
I’ve seen so many recommendations for this one, and I think it’s even one that I’ve started at some point! Again, a clone that would do all my daily chores so I could just watch dramas is what I desperately need! 😂
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kitmiho
March 3, 2018 at 6:56 PM
I second this recommendation with all my heart - Bromance is also my all-time favorite and most returned to drama.
The development of the main couple's relationship is truly beautiful; the depth and maturity of its evolution is on a level rarely seen in dramas. Plus, as you said, the chemistry is spellbinding.
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9 cherry 🍒
February 28, 2018 at 1:00 AM
Another great post @ally-le! When this theme of the month came up, I was wondering if someone’s going to write about Coffee Prince. I mean, there’s a reason why CF couple still ranks among most favourite OTPs of all time, right?
I first watched CF 10 years ago and was completely smitten with Eun Chan and Han Kyul. But I was too young then to completely understand complicated love lines and why did Eun Chan behaved the way she behaved. It was the second rewatch few weeks ago that made me appreciate this gem of the show even more. To me even after 10 years the show doesn’t feel dated at all.
CF shot both YEH and GY to stardom and it’s well deserved. YEH managed to shed her girly image and completely immersed herself in Eun Chan, she’s the most convincing tomboy character in k-dramaland to date. Javabeans translated the interview with CF writer who said that she wrote Han Kyul with GY in her mind, maybe that’s why his character was so endearing and why nobody could resist his charms. I have yet to find another actor who can emote inner struggles like GY in CF. In 10 years of watching k-dramas no male character came close to my love for Han Kyul. As @girlfriday said I will forever be in love with Choi Han Kyul.
I can’t add anything that hasn’t been said already about this OTP. Someone once said the stars must’ve been aligned when CF was filmed and I think it’s true.
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Ally
February 28, 2018 at 4:45 AM
I just saw this for the first time last year. Being new to the world of K-dramas, I was surprised to see how well it was done. It transcends culture and language. Needless to say, it cemented my decision to keep watching these. It was certainly lightning in a bottle which would be nearly impossible to reconstruct.
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celine
February 28, 2018 at 11:17 PM
Me too. I saw Coffee Prince when it came out in Korea. I was still young then. I did enjoy it a lot, especially the fun parts and the eye candy lol. However, I could not understand the complexity of the relationships back then. I re-watched it years later when I was in college and found more love and appreciation for it. Finally, I could understand the layers of the relationships (and understood the super complicated love of the second pair). Everything that Hangyul went through, from his struggles to finally accepting his feelings all the way to the part when he felt betrayed by Eunchan, felt real. I appreciated the most how both came to have mutual love, care, and respect for each other.
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kitmiho
March 3, 2018 at 7:14 PM
Well said. I also really appreciate that once the truth was revealed to and eventually accepted by Hangyul, the conflicts that the couple faced were really realistic based on their established characters and circumstances, especially since they mostly revolved around money (a very common conflict in the real world.)
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First there was Eunchan's determination to pay him back what she'd borrowed and his hurt because he didn't understand why (from his perspective) his girlfriend was treating him like an impersonal lender especially when he didn't need the money and she did. Then there was her wanting to delay their wedding to achieve financial independence and secure her and her family's future, which he again didn't really understand at first and was therefore hurt by. Normally dramas go out of their way to manufacture conflict once the main couple get together, but these felt very organic and realistic, which was so welcome.
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10 Shahirah
February 28, 2018 at 2:17 AM
I still remember the agony that Choi Han Gyul felt at the beach, as he battled an inner war between wanting to hug Go Eun Chan or not. Gong Yoo played the character so SO well!
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Ally
February 28, 2018 at 4:38 AM
That’s one of those scenes that gets seared into your memory forever. Anyone who has seen it can’t forget it; it’s probably one of the most, if not the most iconic K-drama scenes of all time. The turmoil, angst, and emotionally charged sexual tension resulting from what the viewer knows but the main character doesn’t, everything K-dramas do well, is embodied in this scene.
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celine
February 28, 2018 at 11:26 PM
@ally-le This scene! OMG! One of my favorites and the real definition of "the struggle is real" excellently acted by Gong Yoo. One time I was watching this scene on my tablet and my sister who was doing something else guessed the scene correctly based from the sound of the water and the background music by Azura Ray during the scene. That's how memorable this scene is to us.
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11 AG
February 28, 2018 at 8:19 AM
I know that this is party pooping, but it is kind of :\ to me that we've never had a case where the guy actually has to reckon with an awakened queer sexuality afterwards.
Either that, well, he's discovered bisexuality and will continue being attracted to people of either gender (especially with the question of if the love interest will be okay being with a bisexual guy, which is a real issue in real life!), or that he's actually gay and so stops being attracted to the love interest once he learns that they are a woman. Now THAT would be truly interesting!
Also suspicious is that we haven't seen the opposite gender bend configuration...ever. Gentlemen Prefer Blondes doesn't count.
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mindy
February 28, 2018 at 8:29 AM
Opposite genderbender: Ma Boy.
I haven’t seen it but it’s a short little show that I’ve seen mentioned a lot. It has Kim So-hyun!
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mano
February 28, 2018 at 9:10 AM
It's only 3 episodes!
Thanks Mindy, I'll definitely check it 😄
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AG
February 28, 2018 at 10:51 AM
Thanks for the recommendation!
I was also reminded of the configuration where it's a lady who falls in love with the gender bending woman, like in Painter of the Wind. And yet somehow they never seem to decide to overcome societal restrictions and get together anyways...(the one exception I've ever seen was the Jdrama Mendol)
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mindy
February 28, 2018 at 2:18 PM
HA. I used to be a huge AKB fan so I watched Mendol. Almost forgot about it.
I could not see that happening in a Kdrama at this point in time, sadly.
12 sriracha
February 28, 2018 at 11:59 AM
You had me at "Hello! It’s Gong Yoo! Hello, it’s Bo-gum!" 😛
Kidding aside, thanks for this piece @ally-le ! You nailed it when you pointed out how organic the progression of their love is. It didn't hurt that they had actors and actresses who perfectly conveyed the right emotions and expressions. And they had chemistry too!
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13 jadea
February 28, 2018 at 1:07 PM
I love Coffee Prince and it's definitely the best portrayal of a man falling in love with another "man" in a gender bender. Han gyul's struggle was so painful, yet intriguing. After CP, I'm just impatiently waiting for a real same gender drama to come along to give me the same feelings.
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PakalanaPikake
February 28, 2018 at 2:51 PM
@jadea,
"After CP, I'm just impatiently waiting for a real same gender drama to come along to give me the same feelings."
Then check out LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL. The OTP is memorable, as is the response of one of the families. It's a lengthy weekend drama (63 eps.), but I found it heartwarming and addictive.
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14 PLT
February 28, 2018 at 4:28 PM
I agree with everything said about Coffee Prince & Moonlight, but as I read this I kept asking "what about 'Sungkyunkwan Scandal'?. Readers
comments have confirmed. It has its place among the classics of this genre.
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15 bjharm
February 28, 2018 at 4:29 PM
gender bender, well you could try a few Thai drama, lots of that theme, but then they tend to be rather more open about cross dressing than Korea, but it still so funny to see alpha male types finding themselves doubting their own sexuality by falling for a 'guy'. And of course it a pretty common theme in ancient Chinese drama as well.
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16 RenOIshi
February 28, 2018 at 7:05 PM
Ah! Long time lurker first time poster! As my display name would suggest CP is the heart of my heart and the soul of my soul! I am yet to come by a kdrama that moved me with the heavy emotion that this drama did. What I really appreciated in this drama was that even though EC was hiding her true self from him, she didnt have to pretend to be someone else - she was still the hard working, one of the boys, girl. She didnt have to act pretty and girly to sway him and never did she even expect HG to fall in love with her even when she was falling for her charismatic jerk boss. And like you said HG was able to be his true self from the beginning and to me that is the foundation of a true OTP. Great writing @ally-le :)
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Ally
March 1, 2018 at 1:02 PM
Thank you for commenting! Another Beanie voice emerges! You’re so right! I think that overall, EC didn’t change much at all. She was always a good listener, hard working, industrious, and easy to get along with. She was what HC desperately needed, someone he could be open with, without judgement. This OTP just gave me life!
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RenOIshi
March 1, 2018 at 6:12 PM
Honestly I could write a freaking book about how awesome this OTP is! The raw emotion, the acting! YEH's scene where she locks herself in the bathroom and cries while hugging a pillow. Damn! Gets me everytime.
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RenOIshi
March 1, 2018 at 6:18 PM
And thank you for welcoming me! Not planning to be a lurker anymore :)
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kitmiho
March 3, 2018 at 7:23 PM
Hi! I just wanted to say welcome because I am also a long time lurker who posted for the first time on this article because it did such a great job of putting into words one of the core elements that makes Coffee Prince one of the best dramas ever and one that resonates with so many people! You are not alone! :)
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RenOIshi
March 4, 2018 at 3:03 AM
Yayyy!!! Thank you and I knew I couldn’t be alone! After all great minds think alike :) :) :)
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Ally
March 9, 2018 at 11:02 AM
Welcome as well!
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17 JY299
February 28, 2018 at 7:07 PM
@Ally Thanks for writing this, think something like this is long overdue. Lol because I've always wondered why I've had a soft spot for such dramas. Agree on the confusing factor.
In fact there's another drama based on a similar premise : Hanazakarino Kimitachihe (inspired by Japanese manga). There's of course also the popular Sungkyunkwan Scandal.
Personally I think part of the charm of such OTPs is the innocence and camaraderie, these elements bring us back to that time of youth (frankly, the gender bender confusion cannot extend too far from the teen-young adult range for purely physiological reasons) where things are less clouded by other considerations. It also enhances the bromance thread by adding that vague sense of is he or isn't he? The blurring of the lines is what I'd argue is most intriguing.
Of course, it helps that laughter (at the often clueless male lead) is there to help dispel some of the heavier moments. Even when Han Kyul found out the truth and was angry at Eun Chan, it was the camaraderie and the support of the other Princes (and his cousin) that eventually turned him around.
Bromance to camaraderie to budding love, I think these are the key elements of attraction in these dramas and pairings 😂
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Ally
March 1, 2018 at 1:25 PM
Because I’d not seen Yoon Eun-hye prior to this, I was so impressed how much she looked like a boy. I was biased when my SIL was describing this show to me. How can you not know that a guy is really a girl? I ate my words. I was convinced from the start which is another reason this show works. If we didn’t believe her act, no way would the bromance would have been believable in the first place.
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18 bbstl 🧹
February 28, 2018 at 10:30 PM
Ally, another great essay! Congratulations and thanks!
I remember feeling so surprised/relieved when Han Kyul reacted with anger when he learned the truth, because it was REAL that he would feel deeply betrayed, and not just for a second. Kdrama didn't let me down by glossing over that.
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Ally
March 1, 2018 at 12:30 PM
I think that’s why Coffee Prince resonates so much with the majority. Everyone reacted how you would think, except at the end when she just left, for no good reason; sorry, that wasn’t real.
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19 celine
March 1, 2018 at 12:10 AM
I was thinking if you will write for this month's theme because I know how much you love Gong Yoo in Coffee Prince... and well Gong Yoo in general hahaha. Congrats on getting published @ally-le
Gender-bender is not my favorite trope, but I appreciate it when done well. I have seen a number, but Coffee Prince still stands as the best for me. I've said it before and others have said it too, Gong Yoo's portrayal of Hangyul's struggles, pain, and love for another man was done so well, while Yoon Eunhye is the best, most convincing portrayal of a boy. This pair is one of my fave OTPs of all time. The drama never gets old. It does not feel old too (thanks partly to Gong Yoo for not looking much different compared to himself 10 years ago except that he looks way more fine now).
As for MDBC, I enjoyed it very much and I love the OTP. Yeong's struggles were shown. His reaction to finding out the truth happened in one scene when he showed a progression of feelings through his facial expressions afrom shock and anger to acceptance and relief. He may have been relieved to find out the truth that she is indeed a girl, but he already accepted the fact that she's a boy from the letter he wrote before the reveal. It may not have been as deep and well-developed as what Hangyul went through, but given the period and the grave consequences at the time, how it was handled was okay for me. Also, the pair is just too cute and perfect to ignore.
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RenOIshi
March 1, 2018 at 12:44 AM
Yes yes yes! That ‘facial expression’ of the prince in MDBC was what made me truly appreciate Bo Gum as an actor! That was phenomenal!
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Ally
March 1, 2018 at 11:24 AM
Hi @celine! I haven’t “seen” you on a while. I couldn’t let this one pass without at least trying to write something! And I do love these dramas, and was worried I wouldn’t do them justice. And Bo-gum’s face is a work of art and that boy knows how to use it, which is extraordinary. I was utterly speechless, thoughtless, and dumbfounded every time he came on screen as this was the first thing I had the pleasure of seeing him in. Kim Yoo-Jung and he were a match made in heaven.
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celine
March 1, 2018 at 5:11 PM
@ally-le Yeah. I have not been around DB lately because my kdrama life is still in a sad sad state. Got nothing of interest to me among the current offerings. Hope to see you in a mutually loved drama soon. You did well. You are a good writer and you know I am a fan of your posts, especially the ones in OT (which I now rarely visits haha). I enjoyed your piece as well as the one by @greenfields so congrats again!
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20 MikeyD signed up
March 1, 2018 at 1:38 PM
These two series seems to be postulating the dominance of *pheromones* in the mating ritual. Your eyes say 'guy', your olfactory senses and reptile brain are telling you 'potential mating partner'. Your brain has difficulty interpreting the mixed signals.
About the 'pretending to be gay' trope, don't forget Strong Woman Do Bong-soon. The 'second lead pairing' wasn't so much between the heroine with her cop crush Guk-doo as with drunken Guk-doo and Min-hyuk.
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21 javinne
March 1, 2018 at 1:59 PM
Hi, @Ally. I have wanted to comment here on your post since it was published, but I have not had time. 😖
But I am happy you were published.
Sadly I don't have much to contribute, since this cross gender issue is not exactly my cantnip. But you really made me want to watch the moonlight drawn by clouds, at least out of curiosity. It is just that I am not much into historical dramas😒.
We will see. If I ever watch it, I will let you know.
Coffee Prince was fun for me, sometimes a little bit melo. I was not much invested in the otp relationship,, because it didn't make click for me, but I enjoyed most of the characters and I found the pace and the humor very cool.
I have to go to sleep now. Wish you a good nicht!!! 🏙
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Ally
March 1, 2018 at 7:02 PM
So...guess what I’m doing? My essay was so convincing to me that I’m doing a MDBC rewatch! Aigoo. At least my mom is watching it with me. (And my dad and brother on the side.) I hope you do get a chance to watch it, @javinne. You can FF all the historical hand waving/people killing parts and just watch the OTP together. There’s also a great bromance in it too!
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javinne
March 1, 2018 at 10:45 PM
Fast forward all the historical and killing parts!!!! LOL😂😂😂
Yeah, thats the thing with sageuks... I hate that they always kill at least a quarter of the cast, including some nice handsome second leads you have grown up love for.
But then I may try your method..I also use it to avoid absurd, annoying and stupid second leads like in Full House!!! (Long ago whenI watched it) 😂
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22 ElSol
March 2, 2018 at 8:17 AM
This is an interesting point.
> And even as the girls are deceptive, our leading men are honest to a fault, and a true friendship emerges.
This is very similar to my favorite part of the "A Master's Sun" OTP --> they NEED each other for other reasons, so both believably have a reason to discount that the other is thinking of them a romantic interest interest. This allows them to let down their guard and let the other person in.
I find that this is a very easy way to use a trope without the usual trope flaws --> he's a butt, but because she needs something from him that is not about the romantic pairing then yeah, who gives a crap that he's a butt.
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