Misty: Episodes 9-10 (Open Thread)
by odilettante
mary: Did you hear? The Misty team held a press conference last week, where Kim Nam-joo, who plays Go Hye-ran, mentioned that the final episode’s script is out, and the ending is totally unexpected — which just messes with my mind. Because now I’m gonna expect the unexpected! Like maybe Kevin Lee is alive after all.
odilettante: I’m still so scarred by the ending of Black that I don’t even want to think about what “unexpected” could mean. Maybe it’s all just a drunken dream of Tae-wook’s after he binged two bottles of whiskey in one evening. Or everyone is killed by a meteor and Tae-wook and Hye-ran have to repopulate the world (and we finally get another rated-19 episode, dammit). Or all the Gold Door Club members are secretly aliens!
mary: “Unexpected” endings scare me. I want my suffering to have closure, not end in shock and possible rage. Why did they have to tease us with that description?
odilettante: Well, at least one good thing came out of that press conference — a gorgeous and elegant pantsuit!
EPISODES 9-10 WEECAP
Detective Kang takes Hye-ran into custody. However, she can only be held for 48 hours unless the police can find actual evidence that she’s involved in Kevin Lee’s death. Everyone works overtime to destroy Hye-ran, especially the corporate fat-cats behind Hwanil Steel and the shoddy workmanship of their Kanghae Construction that caused buildings to collapse. Who cares if Hye-ran really killed Kevin or not provided Hwanil Steel can use this situation to seize her research and bury evidence of their corruption? Ji-won and Reporter Kwak work together and manage to hide the files from the prosecutors who barge in and box up all of Hye-ran’s documents, but Director Jang confiscates it from Ji-won anyway.
Prosecutor Byun gets busy interrogating Hye-ran, using his personal knowledge of her estranged marriage to bait her. (He fails.) Meanwhile, Tae-wook wakes up from his drunk, heartbroken state to discover that Hye-ran is in detention. He immediately springs into action, petitioning Kang Yool Law Firm for help. They tell him not to worry, they sent Hye-ran a lawyer and things will quiet down. But the lawyer wastes the consultation time giving Hye-ran useless advice like, “Stop stirring up trouble with your news, just retire to a quiet married life.”
Things play out exactly the way Hye-ran’s friend predicted to Tae-wook: Tonight’s news will be filler stuff with no mention of the Hwanil Steel case. It’s what happened to her when she tried to expose them in 2013. Hye-ran also learns of the news blackout and figures out that Hwanil is behind her arrest. Her baseless arrest suddenly makes sense and she answers the police’s questions with a promise to give them hell once she’s released.
When Eun-joo finds out that her unsubstantiated claims of a Kevin/Hye-ran affair aren’t enough to get an indictment, she decides to release the black box videos, only to discover the files deleted and unrecoverable. She confronts Tae-wook, who insists there was nothing on that chip, nothing happened between their spouses, and he loves Hye-ran very very much. Despite being unaware of Tae-wook’s inner turmoil, when Hye-ran finds him waiting to escort her out of the station, she starts to fully appreciate how steadfast he is in contrast to her lifelong isolation.
Detective Kang gets reprimanded about rushing to arrest Hye-ran and is implicitly told to let the case go, but he starts again by throwing away his Hye-ran prejudice in favor of solid evidence: Ji-won calling Kevin Lee the night he died.
At JBC, Director Jang “demotes” Hye-ran to a back office, giving her more freedom to work on the Hwanil case in secret. She shows Ji-won and Reporter Kwak the files they rescued from the prosecutors. Unfortunately, they can’t use it until they attack Congressman Jung with something that the Gold Door Club can’t cover up. Hye-ran’s friend warns her against fighting Congressman Jung, pointing to herself as the cautionary tale. But Hye-ran regrets not helping her years ago. Now they team up to discredit Congressman Jung using evidence of underage prostitution.
Reporter Kwak fails to get secret footage when the hotel staff delays him and moves the congressman elsewhere, so Hye-ran triggers the fire alarm, forcing the congressman to scurry out of the room he’s hiding in. Ignoring threats from her JBC news-weasel coworker Dae-woong, as well as the head of the prosecutor’s office, Ji-won captures the congressman escaping on live broadcast. Public sentiment turns overwhelmingly against the congressman, so much so that Kang Yool and Hwanil Steel give him up for lost. Ji-won’s elation at her success is short-lived since she’s now Detective Kang’s focus in the murder case.
Tae-wook watches the news and rushes to meet Hye-ran after recognizing her handiwork. Eun-joo also sees the news from the hospital while recovering from a miscarriage brought upon by the stress of Kevin’s death and Hye-ran’s betrayal. She catches the couple about to leave the JBC building and attempts to stab Hye-ran with a fork. (Yes, a fork.) But as Tae-wook pulls Hye-ran to safety, Myung-woo appears and grabs Eun-joo’s hand, asking her to stop.
The next morning, Tae-wook gives Eun-joo a plane ticket, asking her to leave the country or be charged with attempted murder of his wife. She scoffs at his loyalty to a murderess and tells him to look up the Nagwon-dong murder case two decades ago. The suspect is Ha Myung-woo — the same guy he’s been employing to help save Hye-ran.
Elsewhere, Hye-ran and Myung-woo finally meet and greet each other properly.
COMMENTS
mary: Don’t listen to Eun-joo, Tae-wook! She’s just using the truth to hurt you! This is why Hye-ran keeps you blissfully ignorant. And please don’t begrudge Hye-ran her Myung-woo reunion. They deserve some happiness too! Just not the R-19 kind.
odilettante: I don’t know what I’m more curious to find out: why he decided to take the blame for whatever happened at the jewelry store, or why he kept putting off his release from prison until now, or if he learned his ways of stalking by watching Healer.
mary: Heh~ Imagine him taking vigilante how-to notes from Bong-soo while locked up in his cell. Maybe Hye-ran would’ve picked up some tips too, but I’m glad she was released by the end of Episode 9, because I was so angry, most of my notes for that part was in shouty caps with lots of cursing. Remember that smug prosecutor’s face? And the useless Kang Yool lawyer who managed to insult both careerwomen and housewives with his “advice” for Hye-ran? *grabs a dinner fork*
odilettante: Yeah, Hye-ran’s battle isn’t just against a corrupt corporation that literally kills people, but also against the patriarchy. It’s not enough that she hasn’t been promoted or given the recognition that a man with her skills would have had already, but now they want to give her the “just be the good little woman and stay in your happy homemaker lane” speech. Which is why it was so satisfying to see them panic when she took down Congressman Jung.
mary: No one was more satisfied than Reporter Yoon. It was great to find out her backstory. I used to think she’s just Hye-ran’s sycophant because when Hye-ran gave her a brand new car, she immediately assumed her friend is trying to silence her. Plus, she gives evil and effective advice like “use your husband’s connections to grab more power.” But apparently, her ruthlessness and bitterness come from a heavy place. She’s the Ghost of Future Hye-ran — the one who tried and failed to fight Hwanil.
odilettante: It might be a few years too late, but now that Hye-ran has nothing to lose, she’s going to make it right. And within mere hours of her being released from police custody. Have I mentioned what a badass Hye-ran is? Because: badass.
mary: Speaking of badass, Ji-won had a couple of great moments this week. She’s turning out to be a mini-Hye-ran: quick thinker, knows when to hold hands and drop those in power, and has a desire to expose the corruption at the top. *wipes proud tears*
odilettante: I love that these driven, accomplished, intelligent, talented women aren’t holding grudges as they strive to be the best in their field. The show could have dragged out this feud between Ji-won and Hye-ran but instead Hye-ran realized her time as a news anchor was coming to an end, anyway, and Ji-won realized that maybe she still needs to step up her ruthless game of revealing the truth in corruption if she wants to fill Hye-ran’s (gorgeous) shoes.
mary: She just needs more journalistic experience. And maybe a super loyal and principled (and good-looking) mini-Tae-wook of her own. Gee, I wonder where we can find a guy like that? Totally unrelated, but, it’s time to declare our undying love for Reporter Kwak. Isn’t it a bit silly that we’re holding off on liking his cuteness loyalty to Hye-ran just because we’re worried of the teeny-tiny chance he’ll cause trouble? Even if it IS possible the Kevin/Hye-ran footage he took is now in the hands of Hwanil St– err… the prosecutors.
odilettante: I’m not worried because Tae-wook will find a way to destroy that film, anyway.
mary: You mean like how he reformatted the black box chip five times? He’s surprisingly good at doing shady stuff. I’m always shocked at what he’s willing to do for Hye-ran. It’s like you think he’s reached his limit, but then he pushes it some more.
odilettante: Then again, we can’t forget about Jail Oppa, he who lurks in the shadows and only appears at the right moment, like Hye-ran’s personal vigilante superhero. Did you also feel like Eun-joo was shocked to see him when he stopped her from stabbing Hye-ran? She had to have recognized him from high school.
mary: It seemed like he was super important to Eun-joo with the way he said “You should stop now,” like he expected her to listen to him. Do you think they’re siblings?
odilettante: I was actually thinking Eun-joo had a crush on him in high school, but of course he was in love with Hye-ran (because who isn’t). Is it wrong that I’m still not a fan of Eun-joo, even though I realize how crappy her life has been? She’s lost her husband and her unborn child in such a short period of time, it’s no wonder she’s gotten a little stabby.
mary: It’s okay to just acknowledge her pain. Like Tae-wook said, putting someone in jail just because you’re jealous isn’t correct, so it’s no wonder Eun-joo gets sympathy for her plight, but not admiration for her methods. Or maybe we just have very similar tastes with Tae-wook.
odilettante: You mean loving a beautiful, accomplished, talented, driven woman with great taste in fashion, even if it wrecks our souls? Yeah, probably.
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1 ploinkypink
March 6, 2018 at 8:23 PM
i marathoned Misty from ep 1-10 in 2 days, and now i'm going mad waiting for the next ep! i hope the murderer doesn't turn out to be Tae Wook... ?
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_mplo_
March 6, 2018 at 9:50 PM
Me too! The wait is driving me nuts! I had to look for a filler drama to make up for the waiting time and resorted to.....Missing 9!
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mrsdimple
March 7, 2018 at 3:12 AM
My filler drama are Mystery Queen and should we kiss first?. Both are good! I didn't expect to like SWKF as much, but watching a romance between middle aged couple is quite addicting. Mystery Queen is a delight, as expected. But still, Friday, come faster!
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 9:02 AM
i wasnt planning to watch SWKF, but now im intrigued!
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persianrose❤️战哥
March 7, 2018 at 3:42 PM
Watching Misty and SWKF as well!
_mplo_
March 7, 2018 at 4:07 PM
Is SWKF really that good? I tried the first 15 minutes but it just couldnt catch my attention.
salt N pepper
March 7, 2018 at 1:08 AM
Me three! I lost some sleep over those two nights but it was definitely worth it. This is one addicting ride. Weekend, you're too far away!
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PYC
March 7, 2018 at 4:12 AM
Me four! Great to have two superb dramas in Misty and SWKF alternating the week.
Love both for different reasons but so pleased at finally having dramas for mature audience.
Mary and Odilletante, thanks for your most incisive and humorous comments that makes the sharing all the more enjoyable.
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 5:49 AM
I'm suuuuure it's Tae Wook ! lol
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2 mary
March 6, 2018 at 8:29 PM
*sets up table*
Reporter Kwak is the cutest loyalest puppy and deserves to be bought food by all the noonas.
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CHANGE MY MIND
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 6, 2018 at 9:02 PM
Yesssss!!!!
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acacia
March 6, 2018 at 9:16 PM
*puts all that’s delicious on table*
Paying tribute to the puppy. Because oppa deserves good food and he’s a good looking puppy that deserves to be an oppa 😍
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 6:43 AM
while I really like Puppy Kwak, I noticed that when the Prosecutor's Office ramsacked the newsroom, the camera panned veeeery noticeably on an SD card... and SD card that proooooobably has the conversation his snooping a** recorded of Hye Ran and Kevin Lee...
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#badPuppy
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 8:15 PM
We'll punish his snooping as* when the time comes.
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LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
March 13, 2018 at 12:50 AM
I shall bring cupcakes. I have no other young fictional male characters to give them to anymore
#mysteryqueen2 #cries #cupcakesgone
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3 Arawn
March 6, 2018 at 8:39 PM
Oh. My. God.
I just have to come here and say... Poor Tae-wook! It really hurt to watch him see what was in the black box video.
What's so cruelly ironic is that all of it would've been avoided if only Hye-ran had TOLD Tae-wook about everything beforehand. Tae-wook would've done everything to help!
But, yeah, show has very well established why Hye-ran didn't do this. :(
(Also, lady is a massive hypocrite. She goes around constantly complaining how people do not believe her even though she's telling the truth but SHE ISN'T, is she. Of course people do not believe her because she's hiding so much and even a blind person can see it. Ahhhh!)
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 12:00 AM
It's just ironic that she's being persecuted for the one thing she didn't lie about, using all her other lies as the "evidence". That's not how the law works but it's how karmic justice goes, I guess.
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Giegie
March 7, 2018 at 6:02 AM
That’s my problem with this couple, they are not honest with each other specially Hye-ran, it’s really frustrating.
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 6:40 AM
their lack of proper communication is ultimately going to be their doom, if they keep on this way...
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4 another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 6, 2018 at 8:59 PM
I knew it! I KNEW Eun-joo couldn't as pure and holy as she seems. I definitely sympathize with her (her fate is really too tragic!), but I still think she is SHAAAAAADY. I wondered if she and Jail Oppa were siblings, too--but now I'm thinking she must have liked him back in HS, and she's been bitter that he took the fall for HR (But do we know that for a fact? Like do we know that HR was the actual murderer back then?). I feel like what I'm about to say next might be giving EJ too much credit, but it doesn't seem impossible either: In high school, EJ likes Jail Oppa. He likes HR. He takes the fall for HR. EJ is bitter about that, hates HR for it. Later, when Kevin Lee shows up, she sees an opportunity to take something from HR. Whether or not she was plotting revenge beyond that I can't say. But its still TOO COINCIDENTAL to me that she ends up with HR's ex. I know I am using all caps a lot. Im sorry. These episodes were SO EXCITING. I love this show. Everything about it is excellent. Also that preview for Ep 10. I cannot. I am dead. <3
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acacia
March 6, 2018 at 9:50 PM
Telling Taewook about that song was seriously sooooooo nasty. I was liking her as a proper antagonist until she pulled that card.
It seems like this is why Hyeran never reciprocated that they were “best friends”.
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miss h
March 7, 2018 at 7:31 AM
I still wonder how she knew about that song. Maybe they really were close and HR told her about what happened, but I'm skeptical.
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 12:02 AM
I don't know how to feel about the she-seduced-Kevin-Lee idea, though it seems a popular thought. If she did date Kevin to get back at Hye-ran, it'd be funny because Hye-ran didn't look back at Kevin. Having Eun-joo and Kevin date isn't something Hye-ran will care about or regret.
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purplesheesh
March 7, 2018 at 4:11 AM
I'm actually thinking it was the opposite. Kevin became so obsessed with HR that he pursued her best friend to get back at her. Becuase somehow, he knows that the two will meet again.
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 4:41 AM
I feel like Kevin's life was 3 decades ago hahaha so many things happened between episode 3 and now. But you're right. His attitude when he met Hye-ran again was like, "Look at this nondescript woman I turned into a queen. This is what you missed out on, Hye-ran."
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Justamom
March 7, 2018 at 5:33 AM
Yes exactly. Like how he slept with Ji Won to get back at/dig info on Hye Ran. He’s bedding the women around her to get back at her.
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goldenaddiction
March 7, 2018 at 10:30 AM
Good point!!
another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 6:27 AM
@purplesheesh oooohhhhhhh yes. i can see that. i can totally see that. like!
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 6:26 AM
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 8:42 AM
@mary ah yes. this is a good point. i think you’re right.
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5 momosa
March 6, 2018 at 9:07 PM
What could be totally unexpected? Did maknae do it? He was always in the know and accidentally (or maybe not?!) see things from the side.
This show totally nails the pain the other partner has to go through when infidelity happens, kudos to the actors. It also emphasize about loyalty - think Myung Woo, Hye Ran must have meant a lot to him for him to immediately wants to protect her after getting out of jail. And Tae Wook who stays loyal and true to his wife despite his doubts and struggle with her 'infidelity'.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 6, 2018 at 9:31 PM
so true! i didn’t notice it until you mentioned it, but loyalty plays a big role here! who’s loyal to who, why, how long, etc. i’ll be watching with this in mind for sure now
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6 outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
March 6, 2018 at 9:36 PM
I hate "Unexpected" endings. Well, mostly because I seldom see it done right.
Usually, the drama
- thinks it's unexpected but because viewers love to overwork their brains and imagination, the 'Unexpected' became the expected
- tries too hard to have that killer twist in the end which makes little sense. Unsatisfying finish to an otherwise good story.
- runs out of ideas and even when viewers have set their expectations to zero, drama still manages to deliver that "wtf" ending.
Very rarely, a drama will pull the "Unexpected" with finesse and pomp that leaves everyone's mouths agape and yet applaud the wicked brilliance. I sure hope Misty is that one rare drama.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 9:06 AM
this. is. the. truth. seriously yes!! (honestly, i don't like it when the audience is told that the ending will be "unexpected"? i mean, if the point is to have a twist, then shouldn't, you know, the audience not expect it?)
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goldenaddiction
March 7, 2018 at 10:39 AM
Hahaha I know right??! Now its just an added stress level since I'm going to (and fail to) remember that the ending is "unexpected".
I honestly just want to play it safe and hope its option 1: I would love it if its a brilliant ending, but something that smart, dedicated fans have already predicted. I actually love it when that happens :D
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 11:35 AM
yes! i agree :) That's the BEST
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7 samantha1
March 6, 2018 at 9:43 PM
If we're going with UNEXPECTED, then it was Tae Wook who killed Kevin Lee. He is the only one who can grip Kevin Lee's wrist like the way he shattered the glass during Episode 9.
By the way, I just want to share what the producer said about the title of the drama.
"As the title Misty suggests, the drama looks into the truth of life shrouded in uncertainty. Beyond passionate romance, I would like to depict unpretentious love, be it a married couple's love or that of an extramarital affair. This is more than just a gripping story."
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 12:04 AM
Ooooh, the PD said that? Then, with the uncertainty part, maybe they'll never catch the killer. But the audience will see a couple of hints here and there about Tae-wook or Hye-ran and we'll forever be guessing if one of them DID kill Kevin.
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alasecond
March 7, 2018 at 5:02 AM
wouldn't an unexpected ending.. more than kevin being alive, TW killing him, station head killing him, EJ killing him, everybody killing him ala murder on orient express way...
the most unexpected be GHR killing him? although i doubt that would happen
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8 acacia
March 6, 2018 at 9:44 PM
Albeit it was only for one second, but I’m so glad we got to see Taewook genuinely smile...
Their love story is so sad. Taewook just tried to get over the Kevin and HyeRan “affair” and now we have an even bigger hurdle: Jail Oppa! It feels worse now that I (and HyeRan) have a soft spot for him. Layers and layers of HyeRan’s tightly hidden life is slowly being uncovered. I’m scared but excited to see what this week has in store for us.
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 8:17 PM
Maybe once all the secrets are cleared, Tae-wook and Hye-ran can start over in an honest relationship.
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acacia
March 7, 2018 at 10:45 PM
I really hope so.... the unexpected ending still bugs me though! If one of them ends up being the killer that start over may never happen, or worse, may happen after a "ten years later." 😭
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9 _mplo_
March 6, 2018 at 9:58 PM
Don't tell me the unexpected ending is Tae Wook being the murderer and ending up in jail after reconciling with his wife. Please let there be a happy ending....with babies and all.
On the other hand, could the unexpected be that the accident was really just an accident? After all, I still don't see conclusive evidence that a murder took place.
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mary
March 6, 2018 at 10:35 PM
That's possible too. And Detective Kang stirred shit up over nothing. XD
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hannaehh
March 6, 2018 at 11:41 PM
I also get the feeling that it's just an accident and someone wants to frame HR for it. I rewatch the scene when HR met EJ after she kissed Kevin in her car, she still had her brooch with her so I wonder how on Earth the brooch was inside Kevin's car? But I seriously want it to be accident just to see the defeated face of the detective because he gets on my nerves way too much.
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Yuki
March 7, 2018 at 2:38 AM
Agree, my bet is that this was either an accident or was related to the steel company wanting to end their contract with Kevin, maybe they arranged a "drunk accident" in order to make him look bad and things went out of hand?
Tae Wook is somehow too obvious as the least likely to be the killer. But well, I admit that I don't want him to be the killer since I ship him hard with Hye Ran and I want a happy ending for them, having kids and all that. :)
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 2:59 AM
Oh, that would be cool. If Hwanil just wanted a tiny scandal but ended up causing his death. Can you imagine some head honcho going "ohshitohshitohshit" when news of Kevin's death broke?
hannaehh
March 7, 2018 at 4:17 AM
OMG I never thought of Hwanil steel!
another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 8:44 AM
ooooooo. this is good.
miss h
March 7, 2018 at 7:35 AM
I've been on the "It was an accident" bandwagon for a while now so it wouldn't be unexpected for me, but I think it would for the general viewer. They've laid the groundwork for it too so it wouldn't be WTF.
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MikeyD signed up
March 21, 2018 at 10:00 AM
So many accidental murders in K-dramas, usually involving the victim hitting their head on a curb stone after trying to do something dastardly and being pushed away.
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Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
March 7, 2018 at 7:45 AM
I've thought about that too... maybe it wasn't a murder.
But your comment just reminded me of another theory I had... so I'll give my two cents on the "unexpected" ending as well.
I feel like we're still missing something important from that whole incident: The identity of the guy HR killed.
What if this isn't simply about Kevin Lee, but someone who was connected to the deceased killed Kevin to get back at HR for killing whoever that other guy was in the past?
And I've also been thinking about how all this unfolded and WHO among the characters truly believes that Kevin was murdered as opposed to simply wanting to put the blame on HR for their own interests.
As Detective Kang kept on insisting that the accident was a murder, and adamantly wanting to prove that HR did it, I started thinking that surely there's something behind it. It seemed like his suspicions didn't simply arise from the Kevin Lee case. And as we later found out, that's bc he worked on that murder that HR (supposedly) committed.
Now, my question is: why is he still thinking about it 10 years later? Is it simply his guilty conscience for not arresting who he thought was the real murderer or did he know the deceased?
I don't really think Detective Kang might've had a hand in Kevin's death, because wouldn't he at least have made sure to leave concrete "evidence" behind, being a cop and all?
But if he's been holding onto the past for that long... maybe it's not just about justice, but also a personal matter; so he would definitely have the right motivation?
That's the craziest theory I could come up with.
And my insane theory is that maybe Detective Kang was connected to the deceased and that's why he's so intent on arresting HR.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 8:46 AM
i think you're right --- something about that first murder is the key. I also think this is spot-on: And I've also been thinking about how all this unfolded and WHO among the characters truly believes that Kevin was murdered as opposed to simply wanting to put the blame on HR for their own interests." seriously yes. there is so much insistence that SOMEONE (HR!) killed Kevin....but what if...not...
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10 Justamom
March 6, 2018 at 10:25 PM
I’ve been waiting for your weecap! And dying to talk about last weekend’s episodes. Are you going to update every Wednesday?
I’m with O again here. I think Eun Joo had a crush on Myung Woo and her sky fell down when she realized he was in love with HyeRan. And she never understood why he would have sacrificed himself to protect her and as a result has always been jealous of Hye Ran. Only to have the same thing happen all over again with Lee Jae Young!
Myung Woo definitely still has a hold over her—the way he chastised her with a 그만해 and her embarrassed response, made me suspect this was not the first time something like this has happened between the three of them.
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 3:02 AM
I can't say if it's Wed or Tues because of the different timezones :| But the schedule of last week and this week's Misty OT should be it. (The first week was different cos we had to catch up to eps1-6.)
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11 _mplo_
March 6, 2018 at 11:18 PM
Wishing we had recaps instead of weecaps. I can't get enough out of just watching the show.
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12 hannaehh
March 6, 2018 at 11:38 PM
Okay, what's wrong with the detective for being so sure that HR is the killer? Oh God, I'm so annoyed at him because he didn't dig further, but simply just wanna prove that he's right. Didn't he think it's so weird that prosecutor gave the arrest warrant just from a so-called witness from victim's family saying a phone called is made. He didn't even bother to check who's the real caller? Duh. And when Tae Wook called out the law and prosecutors, the detectives in the police station put the blame on prosecutors saying they did such a messy job. HELLO? YOU WERE THE ONE WHO DIDN'T CHECK PROPERLY AND REQUESTED FOR ARREST WARRANT. I'm so mad at how stupid the detective is and he is really dense towards this case. Like can't he read people's face at all?
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 3:05 AM
It's funny cos he keeps catching them acting weird then he arrives at the wrong conclusion anyway. He saw Eun-joo not wearing her wedding ring the night of Kevin's death, Eun-joo and Hye-ran being friendly at the funeral, Tae-wook running after Kang Yool/Hwanil instead of visiting his wife in lock-up.
He has all the pieces but he's forcing it into the picture he has in his mind. Hopefully he'll do better now by starting with facts.
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hannaehh
March 7, 2018 at 4:24 AM
And he never once think out of the box, (I mean out of his box of thinking) because any normal person would somehow get the hint that HR and Kevin had something going on and EJ is just jealous and HR being prosecuted though there's no solid evidence is because she gave out news about Hwanil steel. How can he be so dense.
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 6:38 AM
exactly!! he's FORCING everything to fit into his own theory, rather than truly opening his eyes to what could truly be. and I'm not just saying this from an "all-seeing Viewer's Perspective"; we SEE him noticing things, and yet! he refuses to acknowledge them.
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miss h
March 7, 2018 at 7:42 AM
When he asked what they had missed in Ep 9, I yelled "Everything" at the television lol.
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Giegie
March 7, 2018 at 8:59 AM
Hahahaha Same! He is so dumb you can’t help but want to smack him. All he does is scold his assistant for not doing his job when he’s the detective in charge.
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goldenaddiction
March 7, 2018 at 1:44 PM
I know! Poor junior detective....(even though he is even more dense I think...)
purplesheesh
March 7, 2018 at 4:13 AM
I guess the detective was somehow "following" HR because of the jewelry murder case from years ago in which Myung Woo took the blame for. I guess he's just itching to put HR behind bars.
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 4:39 AM
He's Hye-ran's sasaeng fan lol
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purplesheesh
March 7, 2018 at 6:29 PM
Our queen definitely knows how to rule the (drama)land so sasaeng fans are pouring in!
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MikeyD signed up
March 21, 2018 at 10:05 AM
To be fair, the detective may be barking up the wrong tree(s) but it was the prosecutor who jumped the gun on the arrest warrant. He didn't so much want HR convicted, he wanted her discredited, frightened-off, and the negative news story killed.
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13 hannaehh
March 6, 2018 at 11:48 PM
Regarding Eun Joo, I get that she's in the 5 stages of grief, but her anger towards HR is kinda misleading because she purposely wants to hurt HR for cheating with her husband when her husband was the true player and had been cheating with so many other women out there other than HR. When she lost her baby, again, she blamed HR for it when she's the one who had not been taking care of her baby.
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_mplo_
March 7, 2018 at 12:01 AM
I think her anger towards HR runs a lot deeper than that. She probably sees it as a betrayal from a supposed friend, and there is probably a lot of jealousy brewing also from her student days. She claimed HR was her best friend but HR doesn't seem to agree. She probably idol worshipped HR for being popular and having men falling at her feet. Even now, she has TW and MW protecting her whereas EJ is all alone.
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 2:56 AM
That's sadly a typical reaction to cheating. :( Hating on the "other" girl more than hating the cheating guy.
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 6:04 AM
let's be fair: Hye Ran was her friend. this is not just "hating on the woman your husband had an affair with"; he cheated with her FRIEND! I mean, the Writers have successfully made us love Hye Ran and all her TERRIBLE flaws more and now we have sunglasses that shade our eyes from seeing that what Hye Ran did was reprehensible. she repeatedly kissed (and slept??) with her friend's husband. her friend.
and so who could blame Eun Joo for being vengeful? is it such a crazy idea? what's worse, now the husband is dead and the baby is gone? Oh, I'd morph myself into the Truck of Doom juuuust to take Hye Ran down, if I were her !!!
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Giegie
March 7, 2018 at 6:19 AM
Agreed! What reaction do you expect from someone who thinks they’ve been lied to and cheated on? I’d want to kill if I were her too.
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Yuki
March 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM
I can see your point of view but I cannot fully sympathise with Eun Joo since the situation seems unfair to Hye Ran. What would you do if a former ex-boyfriend who happens to be a stalker appears as your friend's husband? What if the guy tries to force you into having something with him, would you tell the truth to your friend? This is a risky move for a friendship, even if you are saying the truth, your friend might want to put the blame on you and end the friendship because of jealousy. I can understand that Hye Ran tried to keep everything secret, for her friend and also because of her marriage and her job. And I can understand that she kissed him in the car because she felt cornered and wanted to gain some time, it was clear during the scene that she was having a hard time there. The first time Kevin kissed her was totally a sexual assault, and I'm sure she never slept with him, if we believe the clues the drama has given us regarding her feelings.
She is cold and ruthless and has done many things wrong, but I think cheating and betraying Eun Joo is not one of them. Hye Ran was in a difficult position and telling all the truth might have brought more damage than good.
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 12:15 PM
Telling the truth WOULD indeed have been very difficult and I understand why Hye Ran didn't "confess" about:
a) the past relationship she had with Kevin Lee
b) the on-going borderline-sexual-harassment situationship she currently was in with Kevin Lee.
and yet, it's a lose-lose situation where:
- if you don't say anything, your secrets will be your doom
- if you say something, your truth will be your doom.
Hye Ran made her choice and the consequences are rolling in. One uncovered lie at a time. and I love Hye Ran, badass woman that she is. But the one on the sour end of unfair "justice" is definitely Eun Joo, not Hye Ran.
mary
March 7, 2018 at 8:23 PM
I am being fair! I've been defending why Eun-joo would feel so betrayed for weeks now, even if some were calling her overreacting since week 2. :(
I'm just saying that it's true that women usually get mad at the other woman more than the cheating husband. Even while Kevin was alive, she solved his affairs by humiliating the girl without letting Kevin know. And @hannaehh's original comment also makes sense, that Eun-joo is throwing all her anger and frustration at Hye-ran. We can understand why she's doing it but at the same time we can acknowledge that she's not being rational right now.
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Afenie
March 7, 2018 at 5:11 AM
Can someone tell me if there was an actual affair because I want to see the show but couldn't gake it if she did sleep with Kevin and TW had to watch that...please someone I need an answer T_T
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 8:50 AM
we don't actually know for sure! That's part of what's so frustrating (in the good kdrama way) to me. Some people think the black box showed an affair; others (me) think HR didn't go that far. But something happened on that black box to really rattle EJ and TW both...so....very hard to know what to believe.
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purplesheesh
March 7, 2018 at 6:33 PM
I think they just kissed. I hope they just kissed. For the sake of Tae Wook's (and my) sanity I hope they just kissed and that's that. Though kissing other people is also a form of cheating. >_<
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MikeyD signed up
March 21, 2018 at 10:11 AM
My take on the 'affair' is they were in the front seat of a sedan. That kind'a limits their options. Though you can still get up to some pretty nasty stuff in the front seat of a sedan. If they just kissed the series would show it. If the series doesn't show it that means something not-for-prime-time must happened in the car.
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Kurama
March 7, 2018 at 5:32 AM
Technicaly it's normal to be angry against her husband and Hye Ran for the cheating part, except one he's dead... And it's more about the fact that he had feelings for Hye Ran. He didn't have feelings for the other girls.
I don't agree about the part she didn't take care about her baby. Pregnancy doesn't help handling emotions with all the hormones so yes she's not in her normal state but she didn't do anything that could hurt directly her baby.
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hannaehh
March 7, 2018 at 5:38 AM
Well, she did drink few bottles of soju which she didn't think about her baby when she did.
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 8:52 AM
I agree. let's go easy on miscarriage-blaming. I think the most medically-balanced reason would be that she was under so much stress (which, honestly, even if Kevin hadnt been murdered--losing a spouse is enough) that she miscarried. I don't think the show is trying to blame her for it; I think they use it as a tool to increase her tragic status and also to indicate just how much stress she's under. However shady EJ is (and you know by now that I'm steering that boat!), she's genuinely suffering, too.
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 6:45 PM
Thank you for eloquently saying what I was thinking, @anothernicole ! !
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14 Kurama
March 6, 2018 at 11:58 PM
I like Eun Jo. The poor woman sufferd a lot since she came back in Korea, she had the "perfect" marriage with a famous athlete. In Korea, he was so distracted by Hye Ran that he stopped training, he stopped playing the good husband and he died in doubtful circonstances making him a public cheater. And she lost the baby she was expecting for 10 years. She's not fair with Hye Ran, even if she had a part in all her problems and should move on but I think to see the inconditionnal love of Tae Wook is hurting her more. And honestly, I'm very angry against Hye Ran that she always lied to him. He always has to discover the truth by himself. And in the preview, [SPOILERS?]
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 12:09 AM
(We try to avoid direct references to the preview, since they count as spoiler) But I agree with you about Tae-wook finding things out by himself. Even after the fork-stabbing scene, when they got home and Hye-ran just goes to her room to hide, I was shouting at the screen, "SOMEONE TELL TAE-WOOK THE TRUTH SO HE CAN STOP PRETENDING HE DOESN'T KNOW"
I wish he'd just tell her that he knows though. What a twisted relationship. The wife has so many secrets and never talks, the guy always finds out the truth and never confronts...
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Kurama
March 7, 2018 at 2:24 AM
I'm sorry for the spoiler :)
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 2:28 AM
I also have zero impulse control for Misty and I already watched it hehe. Just making sure in case other beanies didn't see yet. :D
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alasecond
March 7, 2018 at 5:13 AM
how do you detect such things at such express speed.. its like you are refreshing DB page every second.. on multiple tabs.. and any new comment is immediately noticed .. lol
or do you mods have a special feature where every comment shows up as notification making your life simpler (tracking wise)?
another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 8:53 AM
oops sorry, i didnt know that, either. (and i talked about he preview too) will refrain from referencing previews from now on.!
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goldenaddiction
March 7, 2018 at 1:53 PM
That's such a good assessment! I really hope one of them breaks this cycle real soon otherwise they are never getting past this limbo.
Though maybe they would get there if they were ever allowed to do anything normal (like have dinner) after their reconciliation of sorts earlier--something always happens! like a fork stabbing...
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15 mrsdimple
March 7, 2018 at 12:08 AM
Oh yeah! I finally binge-watched ep 8-10 this week and the teaser for ep 11 totally kills me. Another 2 days till Friday. I cannot wait to watch my favourite power couple in kdrama in action.
Did anyone else cried watching the post-it support notes from Hye Ran's colleagues? I used to hate Ji Won, but now that she's on Team Hye Ran, she's kinda awesome too. Cutie hoobae is still not disappointing. Go Cutie!!
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 12:14 AM
That post-it moment was so sweet. We don't see a lot of the other officemates apart from Director Jang, Daewoong, Jiwon, Kwak, and that group of guys who always gossip. So I was surprised that there were so many <3 notes for Hye-ran.
(Also mad they didn't let us know or @odilettante and I would've sent our own post-it messages too!)
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mrsdimple
March 7, 2018 at 1:43 AM
They totally should! but then they have to post it on a bigger surface cause I'm sure that small heart-shaped post its wont suffice. Haha. I love that it showed that they respect her as an honest anchor and totally can read the power play that goes behind the scenes. As Hye Ran said, she was caught because of the news she covered. Next week preview seems [SPOILER?] He is a good superior, he supports her and is brave enough to go against his boss.and that shy and small thumbs up for Hye ran is love. 😍
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hannaehh
March 7, 2018 at 4:29 AM
Other than Jiwon and cutie hoobae, I actually adore Hye Ran's relationship with Director Jang! I love how Director Jang always gives in whenever he thinks Hye Ran is on the right side. If Tae Wook could win the best husband of the year award, Director Jang could win the best boss of the year award too.
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MikeyD signed up
March 21, 2018 at 10:18 AM
We've got a new suspect! Not Ji Won (she was always a suspect), but that supervisor who ratted her out to the corporation. Earlier he was pushing for the ouster of Hye Ran and Ji Won becoming anchor. Then came the Ji Won-golfer photo scandal that briefly derailed her chances. He might've clubbed golfer guy over the head to clear Ji Won's path to fame and fortune.
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16 zitaliam
March 7, 2018 at 12:35 AM
Last week's episodes were really cliff-hangers. I was literally gripped my armchairs as the show revealed itself.
Someone mentioned why Detective Kang is so insistent on Hye-ran being the murderer. I believe his belief was tied to the case to which Myung-ha was jailed. Detective Kand had pulled out an old notebook with has Go Hye-ran's name and the amounts. I think it is a little debt book by which Hye-ran was making payments to that person who was killed. The detective probably did not manage to nail Hye-ran in that case eventhough he felt that she has something to do with the case, since probably Myung-ha was found at the scene with the blood on his body and he confessed to the murder. Whether Hye-ran did kill that man is up to debate as of now but I think it is unlikely that she did.
Tae-wook, while he is bleeding hearts for his undying love and loyalty to Hye-ran, I come to think him as being the dark horse here. And unhinged one too. He is the volatile one now. And Eun-joo pressed the right button to derange the man totally. He making himself to believe that there was nothing between Hye-ran and Kevin was done violently to him which is very dangerous move to take. I also think he may betray Hye-ran in the end now that Hye-ran is beginning to open herself to him. One reason why he is still hanging on to Hye-ran despite the abortion that devastated him was that Hye-ran with all her flaws and half-truths is still one unattained woman, an unconquered woman if I may say so. Woman of this statute is either attractive or repulsive to men. For men who find it attractive, it becomes a game to master. That keeps the thrill on. Once Hye-ran become receptive to him and responds to him in the way that has been elusive, Tae-wook may not be able to stomach all those flaws that Hye-ran has. That is when he will buckle beneath his knees and throw Hye-ran to the wolves.
Eun-joo with Myung-ha and Hye-ran has history that goes well back to their school days. As mentioned, they could either be siblings or as odilettante said, Eun-joo was crushing on Myung-ha but Myung-ha and Hye-ran has love for each other. I tend to believe that it was a plan from the start by Eun-joo, not with the intentionally accidental meeting at the airport but when Hye-ran broke up with Kevin 10 years ago.
But I really like the direction the show takes with each episode. You would think it is a simple murder mystery that has the heroine pinned down and the hero rescuing her. But I think there is a bigger picture to it and Kevin’s death or murder is a smokescreen to the real thing – shady deals behind the close doors that are linked to corruption at the highest place. In the end, I think the show will have Hye-ran taking down the whole machinery and system. This is the counterpart of Secrets of Forest – the women version to Hwang Shi-mok’s male! Brilliant, if you ask me!
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 2:42 AM
I remember discussing Kang with another beanie before... it seems like he thinks Hye-ran has a history of getting away with crime. And she's probably the type of person a hardworking cop like him hates: powerful, well-connected, gets away easily from her crimes. In his mind, he's rationalizing his flawed investigation by thinking that he won't be able to pin her without working with the corrupt prosecutor.
Imagine if this were a cop kdrama and we were on Detective Kang's side. They always use that trick, locking up their suspect first and then running around trying to gather evidence while the suspect is tied up. And us getting annoyed because the rich suspect never talks except to sneer at the police's efforts and brag that they won't find evidence of the crime. XD That's probably the kind of show this is from Detective Kang's point of view.
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 6:29 AM
I completely agree with your take on Detective Kang's POV. in his mind, he's not letting her get away with murder twice! My issue with him is that, while I understand his "feelings", there have been signs everywhere that there was more to this murder case than just Hye-Ran.
We saw him notice the missing rign on Eun Joo's finger. We saw him question their strange friendship amidst the affair allegations. Why didn't that good cop light bulb turn on and do proper investigation? Why hasn't he wondered where Tae Wook was that night??? I mean, hasn't he heard the rumours that Hey Ran is estranged from her husband??
why such tunnel vision?
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emmaaa
March 8, 2018 at 6:20 PM
The detective's POV is really interesting cause I never though about the murder from his view. I always thought that he was just going with his first instinct (the brooch! we cannot forget about the brooch!). But now I'm thinking that maybe there is something more. However, I don't completely agree with Detective Kang having his own personal agenda because if he did, he would not have been so respected in the police station as he is, but I am still conflicted about Detective Kang. Although, I was thinking that he would eventually become an ally to HR because he wants the truth and nothing but the truth, nor is he corrupted by power (he refused to be promoted in past - the police chief now is one of his hubaes). But I really dont know...
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 7:05 AM
@zitaliam : I'm just waaaaiting for Tae Wook to break... it's bound to happen...
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emmaaa
March 8, 2018 at 7:16 PM
the big question there is when TW breaks, will HR support or abandon him?
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17 salt N pepper
March 7, 2018 at 1:56 AM
This is my new crack drama! Not your typical murder mystery but a bit of everything and keeps you on your toes week after week. Kim Nam Joo is kicking butt in perfectly fashionable clothes! I loved the news team this week -- from the chief, to puppy assistant, and even Ji Won who is becoming a mini Hye Ran.
I'm honestly scared about that "unexpected" ending. I love this drama too much right now that I'll end up murdering someone myself if we're going to be getting a shitty, wtf end.
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18 Yuki
March 7, 2018 at 2:50 AM
I was biting my nails through episode 10 all the way. I love how thrilling is this drama even in the parts when it is not centered in the main mystery of Kevin's death. The tension on the TV station feels so real and it's so entertaining to watch. The way Hye Ran&team took down the congressman was so satisfying...and I ended up loving Han Ji Won, the girl is much better than it seemed at the beginning and I love that she really has ambitions to get to the top by being a good journalist, rather than just being a pretty face. I also loved that the two women where able to join forces and work as allies, forgetting their previous problems. Hye Ran was totally badass and I enjoyed so much cheering for her.
Now I wonder what will happen between the couple. I'd like that they get together for good and we can focus on taking down the baddies and the mystery of what happened to Kevin. I just can't handle more of Tae Wook crying...and I really want to see them working together as the power couple they are. Looking forward to next week episodes!! :D
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19 Nadia
March 7, 2018 at 3:03 AM
I have never disliked a character as much as Hye-ran, she has too many secrets, she's hard hearted and why would so many men want one woman. I know it's typical of kdrama's but it's tiring. I will come back and watch the last two episodes.
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_mplo_
March 7, 2018 at 4:09 AM
I get where you're coming from but give HR a chance. I dropped this drama after watching ep 1 partially because I found HR too cold and impersonal for my liking. But after reading the rave reviews I decided to give it another go and now I'm hooked! HR has a vulnerable side as you will soon see. She didnt get to where she is now by being the soft, complacent woman that most dramas portray women as. She said as much when she talked about how she still isnt treated the same as her male peers and how even her in-laws shunned her until she became an anchorwoman. HR aside, the side characters are all equally great and the storyline is awesome!
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Kurama
March 8, 2018 at 1:54 AM
For this drama, I don't like or dislike the characters. They all made choices in their life and they are paying the price now. Hye Ran is great journalist and she's a woman who fights for her because she live in a world build for men. But to protect all of that she had to choose and took bad decisions.
Eun Joo is suffering a lot because of the late husband but she knows that her marriage was beautiful in facade and she doesn't want to accept it.
Tae Wook suffers a lot because of Hye Ran but she told him that she didn't love him but needed his connections/family background, so he knew what kind of marriage it would be but yes how much sacrifice is it decent to accept in a marriage ?
The cop is right to be doubtful about Hye Ran, she lied but he seems to forget a lot of other elements..
So I don't think you have to like the characters but the story is great and the cinematography too :)
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20 Irochka
March 7, 2018 at 5:34 AM
Worst case scenario for me right now would be if Reporter Kwak is the one who killed Kevin Lee. I'd honestly rather have Hye-ran or Tae-wook be the guilty ones (though I am feeling pretty certain neither of them committed the murder). I don't think I could take little puppy committing murder to protect his precious sunbae.
Right now here is my ranking of possible suspects:
1) Reporter Kwak - would be similar to the situation with Myung-woo where someone went to extremes to protect her. He also seems to be the most suspicious right now which also makes me think they are trying to throw us off the real killer (which I really hope is the case!).
2) Ji-won - I'm not sure if she has an alibi yet for the time that Kevin Lee was murdered. We also don't know what the phone call with Kevin was about.
3) Eun-joo - I think she was too distraught to go to those lengths. If she had seen the blackbox video I think she could have been angry but it seems like she didn't see that till much later.
4) Tae-wook - I think he practices self-denial too much to have gone to such extremes. He also didn't see the blackbox video until much later and his reaction made it seem like this was the first real confirmation he had about their relationship.
5) Hye-ran - She seems like the kind of character who sees murder as below her - she can make her own way and fight her own battles without committing murder. I think it also would have been hard for her to do after seeing the trauma she still goes through when she thinks of what happened during her childhood.
My money is still on this possibly being an accident. I feel like the autopsy scene showed a bit of foreshadowing. The medical examiner (who is supposed to be unbiased and present only facts, just like the news) told the detective that he couldn't say either way that it was an accident vs. murder but the detective kind of pushed him into saying exactly what he wanted to hear (that he thought it could be murder). Everyone (including the news) is treating Kevin Lee's death like murder even though the medical examiner himself said it could have just been an accident.
Important question for beanies: What would be worse - Puppy Reporter being the killer trying to save Hye Ran's reputation or Puppy Reporter having secret ties to Hwanil Steel/the VIP corruption circle?
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Kafiyah Bello
March 7, 2018 at 6:18 AM
I think puppy reporter being the murderer. That is unexpected, but it actually makes sense. Of all the people who work with her he is closest and worked with her the most. He also caught Kevin seemingly threatening her on video. At the same time he could have sent that video to Tae Wook which led Tae Wook to want to kill Kevin especially after he saw her in the car. I don't know, but I think your theory is sound.
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korfan
March 7, 2018 at 7:27 PM
The possibility exists that it was an accident ..... but with a dead person already in the car. Recalling the autopsy scene you mention, where the Eager Detective is talking with the medical examiner, if we are to believe what was said, Kevin Lee had a blow to the head that couldn't really be explained from the car impact necessarily and he had no inhaled particles from the deployed airbag leading one to believe that he was already dead when he was behind the wheel.
It's all so interesting!
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21 Giegie
March 7, 2018 at 5:45 AM
I don’t know why but Tae-wook’s love for Hye-ran is seriously starting to scare me. Did anyone else notice how his face hardened (after showing HR a fake? smile) when she asked him about his bandaged hand and if he really was okay? He looked really mad and scary! Hye-ran should tell him everything already before it’s too late.
I’m dying to know what really happened in the past and the relationship between EJ, Jail Oppa & Hye-ran.
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 6:32 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one. In as much as my heart hurts every time Tae Wook is burt by yet another painful truth revealed (and it's never his own wife telling him... sigh...), I find his almost unconditional love for her very frightening.
e s p e c i a l l y since he's not telling her he knows!!! THAT's the kind of guy who might go from 0 to 100 real quick!
#PrimeSuspect
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Giegie
March 7, 2018 at 7:58 AM
Right? Ugh! I was shouting at him to tell her he knows about her lies, but no he just stood there and let her be. Sigh. And why is he not questioning her about the brooch? He’s her lawyer after all.
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22 Kafiyah Bello
March 7, 2018 at 6:13 AM
Was I the only onw who noticed the focus on heels? Hye Ran's heels are stilletoes and super sleek and chic. Ji won's are not as fabulous, the heel is a little thicker and her shoes are slightly more worn, Eun Joo's shoes are chunky low heels. It's as if the shoes are a metaphor for their sophistication. There are always shots of the shoes. When Eun Joo is at her lowest she doesn't even wear shoes, she wears platformed sneakers, at her most determined she wears a higher chunky heel. Meanwhile Hye Ran is always in fabulous stilletoes. I love it.
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salt N pepper
March 7, 2018 at 6:27 AM
I didn't even notice that. Props for being so observant! It does make sense and that's actually a good, classy metaphor befitting of Hye Ran's (and the show overall) image.
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hannaehh
March 7, 2018 at 6:53 AM
I didn't realize the analogy, but Hye Ran's heels always catch my attention. They're indeed fabulous.
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goldenaddiction
March 7, 2018 at 4:23 PM
I was actually thinking that myself but more with their entire wardrobe :D
Your analysis of their shoes is spot on! Also, its interesting that EJ clothes are of a softer pallate but still expensive: She's the rich, "goody-two-shoes", housewife. Her wardrobe choice is probably as careful as the facade she wears: its her choice to wear those clothes because that's the image she wants to project ! She probably contrasted herself (in the past) as the classy housewife vs. the "slutty-chic" women that her husband cheats with. But I might be reading too much into this lol
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Kafiyah Bello
March 7, 2018 at 7:47 PM
No, I think you are right. It probably goes back to Hye Ran and her insecurity regarding her husband. Oh Eun Joo, poor woman, but Jeon Hye Jin is playing the heck out of her and is now a must watch for me along with the rest of the cast.
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23 KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 7:00 AM
Hello hello Misty Beanies!
after spending a good 30mins responding to other brilliant observations about ep 9-10, I figured I might as well type my own. LoL.
Director Jang confiscating usb key from Ji-won Not cool. I was so proud of her for her petty ruse and then Director Jang came and spoiled it! While I like how fatherly he is to Hye Ran, I honestly think he’s tied in with Hwanil. I mean, it’s been pointed out that it’s not the 1st time their corruption has been raised and he always seems sooooo reluctant!!! Of course, we know that the President of the newsroom is deep in the corruption scheme, but how involved is Director Jang?
And did anyone notice the SD card the prosecutor’s office threw in the blue box from the newsroom? Our Puppy Reporter Kwak might be getting his beloved Hye Ran in trouble…
Prosecutor Byun’s interrogation made me sooooo angry!! I see where he was going, being all rude and obnoxious but urgh!! As for the old Lawyer guy who berated Hye Ran and all hardworking women, OOH the slap I wanted to land across his face!
Eun Joo… oh, Eun Joo… while I’m not a fan of her, I g e t her. Oh, I get her. She’s a woman who’s willing to endure her husband’s philandering but obviously, cheating with her friend was just the last straw. And said friend is completely unrepentant, refusing to humble herself (in the name of pride) and apologize. Behold, hubby is dead, the baby is gone, and Hye Ran’s surrounded by men who’d kill for her. Yup, I’d want to stab Hye Ran too. I would have gone with the metal chopsticks though, not a fork.
Some call it “jealousy”. I say no. it’s despair at how unfair her life has been and how the very stumbling block of her relationship is seemingly having it all, and going unpunished for her sins. Her many many maaany sins. Dear Eun Joo, I get you.
And yet, I’m rooting for Hye Ran.
Damn… lol
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24 Yuyuu, The Drama Queen
March 7, 2018 at 7:01 AM
I love how varied the women in this show are... and to expand on the point that @odilettante started by praising the show for cutting Hye-ran and Ji-won's rivalry short, I'd also like to give a shout out to reporter Song-yi.
I love that she's simply portrayed as a middle-aged woman, doing her job and... lo and behold: not being defined by a relationship. I ESPECIALLY like that she's also not a mother-figure. And while there's nothing wrong with that, films and many a society would have you believe that at a certain point, that's the only thing you can be as a woman.
So shout out to Misty for its diverse representation of women.
I hope we continue to get more of such non-generic portrayals of women in dramaland.
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KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 7:03 AM
cutting their rivalry short was a superb idea indeed!
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another woodalchi nicole recruit
March 7, 2018 at 8:56 AM
YES!!
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 8:45 PM
Oh I love what you said about Reporter Yoon. :')
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MikeyD signed up
March 21, 2018 at 10:34 AM
The writer is Je In. Not much turned up on a Google search. I don't know if its the same screenwriter as Kim Je-in who wrote the film "Door to the Night" in 2013.
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25 KSKalways
March 7, 2018 at 7:02 AM
also, am I the only one NOT swooning over Jail Oppa?
I mean, I'm looking forward to understanding his motivation for going to jail for Hye Ran but I fear it might not be a very compelling reason enough for me...
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26 Endo
March 7, 2018 at 8:58 AM
Hyeran must've save the world from the past that even tho she's a bish. Everybody wants to protect her, especially Tae Wook.
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 8:46 PM
To be fair, half of people who know her want to protect her fiercely, while the other half is intent on bringing her down.
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27 purplesheesh
March 7, 2018 at 6:47 PM
Hye Ran is a woman of ambition and power. Her passion for delivering FACTUAL (every time they say the word fact, I keep on hearing the f word lol) NEWS is really commendable. The only thing I don't like about her is how she "uses" the people in her favor.
I never thought I'd say this but I love Ji-Won. She obviously looks up to HR and clearly wants her approval and she got it. Reporter Kwang is also adorable but I'm still reluctant to trust him.
I thing Jail Oppa is EJ's first love but he loves HR so she has this hidden anger with her. Said anger is also fueled when Kevin Lee (why do I feel like I have to type and say his full name?) approached her to get back at HR. EJ, who looks rather timid but cold and calculating as well, saw the opportunity and seized it.
Tae Wook has intense blind loyalty that it's becoming scary. Every time he gets hurt, I want to protect him but he's stronger than he looks. I half-hope he snaps and confront HR and they can be honest with each other and live happily ever after.
I don't make sense anymore.
STOP.
Episode 11, please come faster.
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purplesheesh
March 7, 2018 at 6:48 PM
*think
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goldenaddiction
March 7, 2018 at 7:36 PM
I completely agree with you!
I love Hye-ran and I feel like I relate to her (don't know what this says about me...)
My biggest problem with her stem from her lack of full transparency with TaeWook and using people (in her personal life especially).
I'm also hoping for TaeWook to snap in a way that is productive and positive for their relationship...and for Hye-ran to confront how much he's hurt him.
...feeling like a druggie on withdrawal with this one ((cries))...
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28 korfan
March 7, 2018 at 8:10 PM
So here's a thought I'm going to throw out there ..... what if the Golden Door people are using this case (although they could be the ones behind it also) and Go Hye-ran to clean their own house? And when I say Golden Door people, I'm specifically referring to CEO Kang and Hye-ran's father-in-law.
For the last couple of episodes, CEO Kang appears to be playing on a couple of sides. He appears friendly to the Congressman Jung, Hwanil Steel people and others, while telling Tae-wook not to worry about his wife's case. He also visits Hye-ran's father-in-law's home and they seem pretty close, what with father-in-law being a founding member of Golden Door and all. They certainly speak in veiled terms and of course we don't witness the full content of their conversations, but recall the part where father-in-law asks CEO if "he met her" and made reference to her "being daring." If these two men have a plan, like say, out fellow members for corruption, prostitution, bribery, etc. to get rid of them, who better than Hye-ran to do it.
As we've seen throughout this drama, Hye-ran is indeed resourceful, stubborn, doesn't lose her cool and she always finds a way.
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 8:49 PM
That's a very interesting "save" if it's true. But, I think when Kang Yool promised to help Hye-ran, they were just using up the 48 hours to destroy her career with a scandal + seize all research about Hwanil + silence the media.
I would love it if your theory were true though.
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cherkell
March 7, 2018 at 10:19 PM
That Kang Yool ringer attorney! Even though it seemed that maybe he was playing along to run out the 48 hours, he still pissed me off SO FREAKIN' MUCH when he told Hye Ran to go home and be a good little housewife. Unfortunately, my monitor took a direct hit from my coffee cup and may need replacement now. *grrrrrrrrrr*
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mary
March 7, 2018 at 10:35 PM
I hate him so much. Especially cos at the start you can see Hye-ran being polite to him, if a bit puzzled why he's so incompetent. And then he showed his true colors and THERE AREN'T ENOUGH DINNER FORKS IN THE WORLD TO STAB HIM WITH.
(Also hiiiii cherkell! I'm glad you're watching this too!)
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
March 7, 2018 at 10:43 PM
Sorry to hear about your monitor.
By the way, my notebook has protection whenever food and/beverage appears during my drama watching.
There should be some kind of insurance for this.
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29 Betty
March 8, 2018 at 4:23 AM
I LOVE Go Hye Ran and Ha Ji Won working together! TAKE DOWN THE PATRIARCHY MY GIRLS!
Also, we got to see Hye Ran smiling and just... I need more of that! No wonder Tae Wook is ready to go to war and reformat evidence to hell and back for her. Same buddy, tbh!
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30 noor
March 8, 2018 at 4:51 AM
I think Tae Wook's character is unrealistic - nobody is that unconditional towards a cold ambitious inattentive partner (who aborts babies for career). It will be a good end if he turned out to be the man who framed Hye Ran as revenge for all the years that she had her cake, ignored and insulted him.
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outofthisworld 不愧是我 🏍
March 8, 2018 at 4:54 AM
TBH, this idea did cross my mind. Indeed, how could anyone be so selfless, forgiving and sacrificing? But I'll just hang on to my unrealistic Tae Wook for the time being.
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goldenaddiction
March 8, 2018 at 8:15 AM
Well...to throw a monkey wrench into this theory (though you might be totally right!)...TeaWook fell for her "cold ambitious" character. When he was courting her, she was very clear: she hadd never thought about marriage because of her career ambitions and that she would only marry him because of his family background. He knew this and still loved her. At least she was very clear about it. In fact, Hye-ran even says that she married him because he was the only who ever fully accepted her for what she really was. It was TaeWook who misjudged how truly ambitious Hye-ran is and what it would mean for their married life--something he knows and takes responsibility for.
I do think that Hye-Ran has been distant and has hurt him in many ways, but the faults do not only go one way. I also think its actually pretty realistic that TaeWook seriously thinks about divorce and then Hye-Ran does something badass and he remembers again why he fell in with her and then cannot make himself fully separate. This neither here nor there between them is of course causing huge problems and hopefully they will break this communication barrier soon!
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Arawn
March 8, 2018 at 8:57 AM
But... He wasn't always unconditional nor was she always cold and inattentive. Yes, she didn't love him, which he knew, but apparently they did have a well working marriage before she went to have an abortion. Tae-wook was so distraught and angry that he basically shut down and withdraw from the marriage only staying to keep up appearences. This is when Hye-ran became "cold and inattentive" - because she had no choice. And really, it wasn't her who acted so first, it was Tae-wook, he ignored Hye-ran emotionally and physically for FIVE YEARS. Basically, he was punishing Hye-ran for the abortion.
Now, it is perfectly understandable that Tae-wook was mad about the abortion as Hye-ran did it behind his back. But he should've either forgiven her or divorced her. Punishing a person by showing the cold sholder for five years is cruel and wrong. However, Tae-wook realised this himself and he's now making amends. That's the thing here: Tae-wook thinks he has done wrong by Hye-ran (which he has) and he is trying to make it up to her. Nothing suggests Hye-ran was inattentive before the abortion. Sure, she was ambitious, but flashbacks show her being humorous, funny and warm, too.
I'm not saying Tae-wook's love isn't a bit scary. It is. He's also not acting in the best way there is. He's afraid of what he might unearth and also, I think, Hye-ran just running away lest he starts pushing her for truth and so he takes the opposite direction and doesn't even try.
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no register
March 9, 2018 at 6:25 PM
I can understand why you think that way.
but I think KTW has characteristics of female characters that has represented in Korean dramas. It's just a male instead of a female in Misty.
In Korean drama, you can see women have professional careers but they unconditionally love and support men who has ambitions to succeed.
In reality, It's hard to find such a woman tho.
Everytime I watch Korean dramas, I don't like it.
So I feel that the presences of GHR and KTW are so precious because they follow the clichés of Korean dramas but at the same time they don't follow typical gender roles that is treated by the Korean media.
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no register
March 9, 2018 at 7:41 PM
and I know I made grammartical mistakes but I hope you understand. I can't edit it!
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MikeyD signed up
March 21, 2018 at 10:39 AM
You forgot about the divorce papers. He was very nearly out the door. then the crisis hit. His devotion is new-found.
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31 samantha1
March 8, 2018 at 6:41 AM
I just want to share what Kim Nam Joo and Ji Jin Hee said as posted in koreaherald.com
Kim Nam Joo:
"I poured everything into my role as Go Hye-ran that I have no regrets. I think ‘Misty’ will be my last well-made drama of my 40s. It was the drama that caused me pain but also the one I loved the most.
I‘ve always thought, ‘How can I portray this desperate and lonely Go Hye-ran? After the drama, the first thing I want to do is eat rice. After the drama, I think I will get sick both mentally and physically.
At first, I couldn’t understand some of Go’s dramatic behaviors. But as time went on, I could sympathize with the character, as I’ve lived a very rough life too. Not only me but most people, they live fiercely to keep their places in this jungle. I think that’s why the drama has been able to draw so many viewers. Playing Go also gave me courage."
Ji Jin Hee on the other end said this:
"(The ending) will make you think ‘how can this happen?’ Onscreen character Kang will keep struggling to prove Go’s innocence, and many things will happen in between. It won’t be entirely fair for them, but it will be entertaining to watch.“
The true side of humans, true side of love will be revealed. Keep tuning in, and it won’t betray you.“
-written by Hong Dam-young from koreaherald.com
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goldenaddiction
March 8, 2018 at 8:17 AM
Thanks for sharing!!
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32 littlecharmsy
March 8, 2018 at 11:00 PM
I wonder whether Eun-joo was involved in the cover-up that sent Myung-woo to jail for murder when they were in high school. Did she know about the incident first hand or did Hye-ran tell her about it? What was Eun-joo and Hye-ran's relationship really like in the past? Were they really close or just acquaintances? When Tae-woo played “Knocking on Heaven’s Door,” claiming Eun-joo said it was Hye-ra’s favorite, Hye-ra’s reaction, at first, seemed like a PTSD reaction and maybe even worry that Eun-joo was going to spill the beans. But then I thought that it seemed that she was surprised/shocked that Eun-joo even knows what the song’s reference was. Was that incident supposed to be only between Hye-ran and Myung-woo? Am I overthinking it?
And really, both of them are shocked to see Myung-woo free? They basically forgot their friend who was took the fall for murder? Even if both women never contacted Myung-woo again when he’s out of jail, they weren’t curious when he would be free? Ingrates!
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odilettante
March 9, 2018 at 8:25 AM
I'm still really hoping for lots of high school flashbacks! There's history that needs to be explored!
But to be fair, Myung-woo refused to see Hye-ran despite her repeated attempts to visit him over the years (and to even give him a wedding announcement), plus he kept causing problems whenever he was about to be released so that his sentence kept being extended. They probably had no idea that he was released now since there was no reason for them to know, due to Myung-woo's refusal to let them contact him and him finding reasons to stay in jail. Plus I assume Eun-joo's been in America for awhile.
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33 Mistymaiden914
March 11, 2018 at 9:39 AM
I'm guessing that both of them will get a life sentence and live the rest of their lives in jail. Sort of unexpected but quite fun to watch. Till death do they part.
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34 LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi
March 13, 2018 at 12:49 AM
My favourite part of this was when Hye-ran walked back into work like a badass and Han Ji-won got this "I want to be her when I grow up" look on her face. It reminds me of a few episodes ago where Hye-ran told her that if she wants to succeed then do it through journalism and Ji-won has finally got it. That's some serious character growth right there.
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35 MikeyD signed up
March 20, 2018 at 7:23 PM
One thing that disappointed me, the voice-over where Hye-ran said something like "I've been alive for 37 years..." No, you've been alive for 46 years - or at least the actress has. Much of the fun of this series is watching 'grown-ups' acting for a change. You diminish the character of the seasoned reporter by back-dating her age by a decade.
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36 BASDFS
March 21, 2018 at 12:31 AM
Can we talk about how bad and clueless the detective is? Instead of letting the evidence point him in the right direction, he had a conclusion already in his mind, and only looked for clues to confirm his prejudice.
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37 misty
March 25, 2022 at 11:15 AM
"Don’t listen to Eun-joo, Tae-wook! She’s just using the truth to hurt you! This is why Hye-ran keeps you blissfully ignorant."
Probably the most patronizing and revolting thing I ever read (even if tongue in cheek). Maybe (or maybe not) a way to treat a sheep, not a person. She claimed so confidently, almost as if offended, that she did not sleep with him, turns out it was a complete deception, a face a think as the Great Wall of China. He had the right to know and make his own choices (then again, she did terminate the pregnancy, a major life decision, without telling him anything... not that she needed him to approve, but the good courtesy of talking to him beforehand would have been appreciated)
The point here is that what Eun-joo did not tell him the whole truth, which I am not sure she actually knows. The truth is that FL was deceived and was being blackmailed. Eun-joo knows that she was being blackmailed, but maybe she "trusted" her deception (despite FL telling her that she lied when she made it seem she did not love her husband). FL's face in in the care was pretty telling, both should "know" that she was not into it. All in all, I find completely sane the perspective that "truth" and "reality" exist independently from our bs and do matter.
"I’m still not a fan of Eun-joo, even though I realize how crappy her life has been? She’s lost her husband and her unborn child in such a short period of time, it’s no wonder she’s gotten a little stabby."
This does seem mildly sociopathic. Just because the FL is the FL does not mean we have to drink her bs like sheeple. Eun-joo is the victim her, on the other hand she should have divorced her husband a long time ago.
Ji-won has some good points, but I cannot forget how she had an affair with a married man with a kid and was completely shameless with the guy's wife, basically not caring about hurting someone else and destroying a family for her own whim. Of course it's her lover that is the main culprit since she is not the married one here, but still, she hurt someone that never did anything to her for her own selfish whim and did not show any empathy or remorse whatsoever, which seems mildly sociopathic and frankly makes it difficult to believe she is this noble figure fighting for a higher ideal. This is different from FL who had morals and is shown to *not* be the kind of person to behave like this out of her superficial whim -she fights to protect her values, with discutible morality, maybe, but she did not callously hurt people out of a mere whim-. The sociopathic lack of human empathy, lack of regret and frankly shamelessness when interacting with the victim of her affair makes me completely against anything happening with the "mini tae wok": he is indeed a decent person, who deserves much better.
Lastly, I cannot agree with the miscarriage being made the affair's victim's fault due to "her neglect": she is distressed and emotionally impaired,...
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misty
March 25, 2022 at 11:16 AM
...traumatized by her husband's utter betrayal and death. People, Ji-won chief among them, showed complete disregard for her condition (with the exception of Tae won, whom I frankly think objectively she would have been more deserving of and more suitable for). This is victim blaming of the lowest kind.
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38 misty
March 25, 2022 at 11:47 AM
Actually, I wouldn't say that Eun-Joo would have been more "deserving", maybe "could have been happier together" or "more suitable personality wise" (though probably it would have made for a less interesting drama, because of lack of drama, pun intended) for ML. FL was not really selfishly, callously destroying people's life to satisfy a casual whim like Ji-won, which is why despite her lust for power I can also buy her claims about her ideal if we stretch it a little (Ji-won didn't have that ideal in the first place, as FL clearly stated when she put her in her place, though she might grow into it, and certainly in the last episodes she has shown positive/useful sides, but the sociopathic disregard of the hurt she caused someone that never hurt her does make it hard to believe any kind of high minded "noble" spiel she might spout or pretend to spout -seems kind of obvious that basic respect for other people's dignity and the ability to empathize and feel shame at having hurt someone that did not deserve it would preceed the hubris of pretending to know what is good for society and wanting to change the world-).
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matrice
March 25, 2022 at 12:09 PM
- Didn't like the prison guy to imply the mutual exclusivity of pride/dignity and caring for FL. I don't like the bar being set to "don't care about your dignity otherwise it's not true love". If a relationship is giving and taking, he is doing all the giving and none of the taking.
- Kind of liked FL being jealous of widow, would have actually found it interesting for this to have been explored more (ML is not conflicted, but there are interesting parallels with widow being pregnant, and his sense of loss for the kid -her body her choice, but objectively speaking it would have been better to discuss this, particularly as he was clearly over the moon and would never have suspected this was going to happen... don't really like the term, but for lack of a better word "sacrificing" the child for her ambitions and him losing the kid-).
- Not saying ML should be okay with the whole situation, but one thing he was anguished about was FL loving golfer and only "needing" him, so her telling him the truth (about him forcing himself on her and blackmailing her, about her lying to him in order to get him to comply, and her words not being true, but just an act) is clearly a conversation they need to have.
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39 matrice
March 25, 2022 at 12:11 PM
Liked wife being jealous, and generally the fact that despite her actions she is not someone that would have betrayed/hurt her friend/husband on a whim (though how much her choice was "necessary" is arguable, was this just because she cared about her career? Show is ambiguous on this, but it's implied that her husband thinking she only sees him as a ticket into power does not appear to be the truth, though it's left in the air how important he is with respect to her ambitions).
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matrice
March 25, 2022 at 12:17 PM
Would not have been bad to see some hesitation/reflection on FL's part regarding her past choices (recent and older). We see that she did love her husband (waiting on him, while he believed he was the one waiting on her).
Not sure about him "not regretting waiting on her"... what she did did not really change their difference in values and her lack of communication regarding a monumental life decision that affected them both and changed their lives. None of what she did vis a vis the affair (not exactly the right term given its coercitive nature, but for lack of a better word...) ameliorates this, if anything the exact opposite.
By the same token, if we are going to see Ji-won evolve her developing a bit of empathy for someone she hurt when she did not deserve it would have been appreciated. Still no shame/regret as far as humiliating someone that did nothing to her for a whim is concerned. Not sure how I am supposed to believe she is developing lofty, noble ideals while literally being sociopathically uncaring about callously destroying relationships and people, not even feeling shame when directly confronted by her affair's victim, a pregnant wife and a fellow woman. No opinion on her lover being scum, either.
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40 matrice
March 25, 2022 at 3:47 PM
Ji-won is getting better and better, but can't really get past the fact of why she would demean herself with the golfer, endangering her career for scum that would betray his pregnant wife and two time her with her senior. If we are to think that she is intelligent and independent, and wants to win over her competitor, this does not make sense, particularly because she obviously didn't have feelings for the guy. This is on top of the general shamelessness with the wife whose life she ruined, and the lack of remorse. For all the "growth", her sociopathic lack of empathy was left unaddressed. She is supposed to be "intelligent", but shows no empathy, impulse control or shame/remorse even when facing the victim of her actions, not sure how one would find credible her commitment to higher ideals when basic self respect and empathy seem beyond her reach.
Loved the "How much do you need? You entertained my husband, so you should get paid" bit from the spurned wife (she should have kept some, or even most, of her vitriol for her husband, though). Not sure why she later gets so fixated on FL, as the latter really didn't intend to hurt/betray her in person (was forced and later blackmailed), the worst she did was capitalize on Ji-won's own bad choices, but there the cheating husband and the Ji-won did everything themselves, and it's not as if she pushed them into anything. For that matter, she even told the wife eventually (should have done it immediately, to be honest, but she was the one that pointed out her husband cheating).
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matrice
March 25, 2022 at 4:05 PM
One thing I liked was the fact that Ji-won did not get together with the handsome male colleague, the show is trying to present her as in a growth phase and "improve" her image, and the qualities/actions I see, but without reflection on her sociopathic lack of empathy and shamelessness, as well as frankly, stupidity and lack of self respect, I can't really see her as intelligent or animated by noble ideals. The original FL seemed much better, in that she was fundamentally honest -not in the naive sense of not lying, but of having values and, when making her decisions and walking over someone else, at least doing it for something that mattered to her, her career, not for a stupid, superficial whim- and smart.
I would have actually respected Ji-Won more had she had a motivation that was selfish but intelligible, such as using Kevin Lee for her career, etc., rather than getting burned out of following a whim and demonstrating stupidity and incompetence... and repeating the mistake even after getting caught (when she was at the villa and was called by the wife later on).
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41 matrice
March 25, 2022 at 4:15 PM
I cannot really take Ji-won seriously if along with her character growth there is no reflection on the complete lack of dignity, shame and empathy in her actions. Stupidity and lack of self respect, not seeing how the violent scum (throwing bottles in the kitchen) was not worth risking her career over.
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matrice
March 25, 2022 at 4:17 PM
Regarding lying or better self deception, I must say that both FL and ML are guilty of this. ML tries to convince himself that he did not see what he saw, despite the widow's attempt to point out the obvious fact that reality exists independently from his wishes. FL lies with conviction, thinking that if she imagines a more convenient reality this will change the situation (spoiler alert, it does not). She attempts to push her bs on both the old school friend and her husband, when honesty would have been the better option.
One twist I did not like was the ML making himself the only one at fault, in that respect I appreciated FL telling him that they were both at fault, and acknowledging that she never did anything for him, and that basically in a give-and-take balance, she was doing all the taking and him all the giving. Regarding the child, I did not really appreciate him walking back his position, and liked more her acknowledgment that they had different expectations.
To be honest, the problematic part there was not the abortion in and of itself (her body, her choice), but rather the fact that evidently they did not talk about it at all (he was running around happily buying her jewelry for her pregnancy). It was a major life decision with a huge impact on their marriage, and contrary to what he said, it didn't really reach the point of "him pushing his ideas on her", because he was completely blindsided.
It's not about him being right or wrong (she is the one ultimately making the choice), but rather about the fact that they had literally zero communication around such a major life decision. Despite that, it's still not clear to me whether she always loved him like she does now (probably in the beginning, when she waited for him, yes, and even later she was not stupid, she respected herself and did not act stupidly, and she certainly loves now after they became closer together yet again).
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matrice
March 25, 2022 at 4:23 PM
- FL deceives herself by lying and trying to pretend that the lie is reality. She did it in the past, she is doing it now, by acting offended her husband would even suggest she slept with Kevin Lee. ML does the same -denying what he saw with his own eyes-. Honesty would have been the better option. Explaining that the lie was the one she told Kevin Lee.
- Did not like ML at one point putting all the fault on himself, and changing idea on the abortion without any reason. Much better FL saying that they had different expectations, and admitting she never did anything for him (in the give/take he was doing the giving and her the taking). More than whether he was right or not (her body, her choice, after all), the key fact here is that it was a major life decision that they did not talk about at all (contrary to what he claims, he did not even get to "imposting his view", as he was completely blindsided, and was still running around buying jewelry for his pregant wife while she was having an abortion).
- Despite that, it's still not clear to me whether she always loved him like she does now (probably in the beginning, when she waited for him, yes, and even later she was not stupid, she respected herself and did not act stupidly, and she certainly loves now after they became closer together yet again).
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42 matrice
March 25, 2022 at 4:28 PM
I must say that I don't really see the parallel between FL and Ji-won. When she decided to leave Kevin Lee, she had a rational reason that tied in with her goals. Ji-won jeopardized her career for a guy that was willing to cheat on his pregnant wife, had a crush on her senior, and was violent (throwing bottles around). All because he was rich and hot, apparently -she even talked badly of being a reporter, when she could get together with the rich and famous-. Whatever you might think of fl, she was not that.
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matrice
March 25, 2022 at 5:31 PM
Frankly speaking, I fail to understand what the big deal with him deleting the cam footage is. Setting aside the manslaughter, he deleted the photos in haste, so it might not have been a premeditated decision. Besides that, the photos would compromise his wife as well (with repercussions on her job). And most importantly, they were not really necessary to exculpate her. He worked to free her from the accusations (which were moved against here due to the work she was doing, anyway), and it was better for both their reputations if the affair matter did not come to light (or at least proof of it). In any case, had he failed to defend her like he did, he always had the option to confess the murder at any time. Setting aside the murder issue, he was successful in defending her without compromising her public image, so by getting rid of the camera's contennts he got the best of both words, and in any case it's not as if it was a one-way door, he always had the option to confess if it was necessary. He worked actively to keep her out of prison, and wanted to do so while upholding their reputations, which was one of her goals as well. Again, given that at any point he could confess, this was at no real risk for her. In short, I agree with the widow that this was fully understandable behavior (frankly speaking, putting themselves first is not something she has any right to chastise others about), particularly since from the cam footage she appeared to be basically an enemy using him for her own gains. Again, it would have been different if he was *actually* exchanging his pride for her prison time, but he *at the same time* operated to make sure she wouldn't end up in jail *without* the need to divulge sensitive information.
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43 matrice
March 25, 2022 at 4:33 PM
In the beginning Ji-won was of the opinion that studying in a good school was not worth it when she could date the rich and famous. She said "an anchor is an anchor" and was content with being a groupie, essentially. No self respect, and no intelligence (as she jeopardized her work for someone she did not even love, being with him even after she was discovered) or sense of self control. No shame, nor empathy. No second thought about how her actions would impact other people (not sure how she could think that "justice" demands she brings to justice examples of sociopathic indifference perfectly in line with the guiltless short termism that led her to jeopardize her career to follow her whim).
The fact that she grows in her career makes me with she would have also come to regret her actions, her lack of empathy and self respect, and to think she should have put her career before indulging a stupid whim with someone she didn't really feel anything towards and that was not worthy (cheating on his pregnant wife, and exploding in a violent outburst when brought to task).
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matrice
March 25, 2022 at 4:35 PM
By contrast, FL puts her aspirations first, and always takes them seriously, not putting them behind a man.
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44 matrice
March 25, 2022 at 4:36 PM
Actually, turns out that *she* does love him and does do something for him (leaving him, despite wanting to be with him, for his own good).
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matrice
March 25, 2022 at 5:36 PM
In all this, it should be pointed out that he was not trying to frame her, but to defend her while not revealing information that would destroy her reputation, while having the option of making a confession as an extrema ratio. And thanks to his abilities, he was able to save her without the need to. Not sure how premeditated destroying the cam was (objectively speaking, it left her in a better position, because she was able to walk away free and with her reputation "intact" in the sense that nobody had definitive proof, so she could mitigate the downside professionally.
I don't get why FL's friend is convinced that divulging the cam footage when not immediately useful would have been the better choice, since it was not a one way door and he could confess at any time if push came to shove. Similarly for FL's thoughts: he did work to save her from the accusations. He had the choice of coming clean, but if he could protect her while also keeping her reputation safe and avoid prison it would have been a win-win-win for him.
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