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Open Thread #542

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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I'm wondering, why DB never brought up the #metoo chaos in SK ent industry?

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I think Db is more about positive and drama side of things. Not the real, mostly the reel part of it.

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That hasn't always been the case. There used to be a lot more commentary on the "real," and personally I miss it.

There used to be more coverage of industry news, too…it really struck me how much DB has changed when Kim Joo Hyuk died and while it seemed like the whole drama and movie industry in Korea were in mourning, there was not one word about it in any DB post. I was really surprised and disappointed about that…there were articles about him even in mainstream Western media outlets and tributes on drama blogs that are much smaller than Dramabeans, but one of the biggest dedicated drama sites couldn't spare a few words for him?

As for #metoo, I think it's extremely relevant to DB, if only for the impact it's had on drama airing schedules and casting. DB covered it when Go Hyun Jung left Return for what in the grand scheme of things weren't very serious reasons, but not when Jo Jae Hyun or Choi Il Hwa were dropped from dramas over sexual assault allegations? I don't get it. I'd love for JB or GF to at least say why they're not covering these things. It's a really glaring omission to me.

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I'm sorry but it feels like dramabeans was better before they upgraded their website. I really miss the old dramabans now, it somehow had so mutch more back then.

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I think DB tried to do too much with the new website and either lacked the organizational/operational/managerial skill set to execute the relaunch successfully. I'm really hoping this is the issue which can be fixed rather than a funding issue or personal/health issues. Something isn't right and it's a shame. I hope if there is something fans of the site can do, DB will ask for help instead of what they've been doing so far which is really nothing. I would hate for DB fans to leave.

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I'm relatively new to the site and I was looking back at an old recap and it has over 1000 comments. Every popular show was recapped. Clearly this site used to be something much bigger. I don't know if it's resourcing or staff issue.

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I totally agree. I appreciate everything they do. They don't owe us anything but I would really love to hear what is going on. I hope it doesn't sound like complaining but I don't feel like checking dramabeans five times a day anymore. Wanna see them happy. Hope they are doing well.

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I'm sorry but it feels like dramabeans was better before they upgraded their website. I really miss the old dramabans now, it somehow had so mutch more back then.

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I think DB tried to do too much with the new website and either lacked the organizational/operational/managerial skill set to execute the relaunch successfully. I'm really hoping this is the issue which can be fixed rather than a funding issue or personal/health issues. Something isn't right and it's a shame. I hope if there is something fans of the site can do, DB will ask for help instead of what they've been doing so far which is really nothing. I would hate for DB fans to leave.

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I think they are all too busy making money now especially with the new "Shop" feature. There used to be multiple updates a day and I would get all my news here. But nowadays it goes for days without any new updates when other portal have already breaking news. Staples like weekly ratings are also gone and sometimes "What we're watching" are also not constant.

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Maybe they don't want to touch anything remotely political? I don't agree with that sentiment but it's the only thing I can think of. I honestly get the feeling that they're not sure where they stand in general with a lot of things, updates are declining on all platforms, they're not even recapping half as many shows as they used to, their youtube channel is quiet. Maybe they're consumed with their day to day lives? Who knows. Going to have to look into the #metoo thing on my own.

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Is this real? That is terrible. Not that it makes him innocent.

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I have been wondering the same thing. Dramabeans stood out to me when I first started reading years ago because it was never just about dramas; there was news and social and other meta commentary as well…it's honestly been a bit disappointing to see that aspect become less and less part of the site. I know the whole team is working hard and has a ton on their plate, and I'm grateful for the recaps and other features. But I miss the commentary that set this site apart.

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omg, is there a lot of #metoo stuff going on over there too? I've read like one article about how it's affecting everyday women in their workplaces but didn't catch anything about the entertainment industry.

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Three main cast men have been fired for #metoo from three dramas: My Ajusshi, Cross, and Children of a Lesser God. Cross was probably the biggest because it was the father of the main character, he was on the posters and in every episode.

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That Man oh Soo is crap

Tori Girl - 8.5

Teiichi's Country - 8

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How is Kakegurui?

My brother texted me to watch it, he is a fan of Kakegurui and it reminds me of you ^ ^

I read Overlord - Light Novel this week and it such a point of view, not sure if this even the right expression.

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I was just about to tag you and @alua wherever you are

KAKEGURUI - isn't about gambling or gambling is just there to attract attention. Real game is all about Character's crazy personalities and their Expressions. Just 24 minutes episodes. fast tracked and real fun.

Watch Both movies i mentioned above. Initial translation is out and Tori Girl is highly entertaining. Good Banter between Tsuchiya and Mamiya.

Teiichi;s Country - Manga to Live-Adaptation. I was expecting more crazy things aka the norm of Japanese movies and trailer clearly gave that indication but movie is well done.
I usually dislike manga to live-adaptation but Teiichi's Country is really done well.

I wanted to see more Nagano Mei though.

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> KAKEGURUI - isn't about gambling or gambling is just there to attract attention. Real game is all about Character's crazy personalities and their Expressions. Just 24 minutes episodes. fast tracked and real fun.

Mhm, it just reminds me of you when my brother asked me about the drama, he was so enthusiastic and all over me about the drama
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I remember Nagano Mei, she is in ore monogatari and koe koi,

I googled Teiichi;s Country and I know that manga, thanks, will find a way to watch it. 👍

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ahaha, scrolling down, just skimmed comment "blah blah blah is crap" and my subconscious knew just before "I" did - must be CatoCat. No fluff; calls it as he/she sees it

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Happy Friday~!

I don't know how, but I think I forgot about this last Friday. But how what a week this has been with powerful storms causing trees to fall and heavy snowfall. Typical New England, sigh.

The ending for Hwayugi....still leaves me in this weird numb/bittersweet place? I had such high hopes for the drama and was really enjoying it despite a lot of the flaws. Mostly, I'm disappointed in how the female characters were treated especially when there are female writers at helm. I wish there was a better villain that gave both Sun Mi and Oh Gong a run for their money. But I really wished Sun Mi had more agency leading up to her death. Still, I had fun for the first 19 episodes. I guess there's that.

I'm watching That Man, Oh Soo and I'm not sure what to make of it. The pacing seems a little off and the world building/explanation of powers is not enough. Still I find the main couple cute and this is way more light-hearted and better for me after the Hwayugi finale.

I'm also thinking of watching Strong Woman Do Bong Soon and/or Because This Is Our First Love since they seem like just the right thing I need, lol. Do you recommend one drama over the other? I'm mainly just trying to forget about Hwayugi and would prefer more light-hearted than anything.

I'm also watching Master in the House and Youn Yuh-jung's episode is especially hilarious. At least I'll get to see LSG in this show because I heard reviews weren't great for this movie.

Anyways, hope you all have an awesome weekend!

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Oops I meant Because This Is Our First (Life). Ugh typos galore today. Sorry!

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Doesn't matter if you wrote it wrong. I'm so used to seeing the title that I just saw the first two words and just sort of glossed over it . wouldn't even have noticed it if you didn't point it out. Even I would recommend BTLIOF

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Strong Woman Do Bong-soon is basically pure fluff and ridiculous, low-brow comedy with some weird serial killer stuff thrown in. The main couple is cute. If you want something to shut your brain off during, then it’s a good choice. Sometimes it feels like it’s TRYING to make some sort of social commentary but it never really goes there. It stays light throughout... besides the serial killer stuff.

Because This Life is Our First is very funny but also contemplative with some incredibly well-written dialogue. The conversations are important (and engaging) and they don’t shy away from tackling relevant social issues. It’s the much more grounded and “real” of the two, and it subverts many drama tropes. Sometimes it gets so real it hurts.

So it depends on what you’re looking for! They’re very different shows. I’m biased, though, as BTLIOF is one of my favorites... and Nam Se-hee is like, my favorite character ever.

If you want something purely light-hearted that doesn’t make you think too much, though, I would go with SWDBS.

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Ooh interesting, thanks for the breakdown of the two. I think I'll watch Do Bong Soon and then check out BTLIOF. Or I may just end up watching both at the same time. I'm always down for some good writing and subverting drama tropes. Ah, if only I had more time lol.

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SWDBS has really a very cute and funny OTP, but the plot is messy. BTLIOF is wonderful the first 14 episodes, and in my humble opinion, they destroyed the last two, maybe except for the last scene of our OTP together. So... in regard to quality, the second is better, but in regard to satisfaction, somehow SWDBS is better... you will have to find out. 🙋

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I liked SWDBS the first few eps but I couldn’t bring myself to finish it. I recognize that it was a matter of personal taste, though. The comedy was not my cup of tea and, frankly, parts of it offended me and it put me through tonal whiplash every episode with the killer. Those parts made me feel sick and kind of brought my mood down so I couldn’t really appreciate the cute OTP moments to their fullest when they came. If someone made a cut of just the OTP I would definitely watch that, though!

BTLIOF stumbled at the end but the sheer magic of 90% of the show makes it more than worth the watch! There are so many scenes and lines that I will keep coming back to for a long, long time. There are things I would change but many, many more things that were perfect and I would never touch.

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If you just ignore what the drama could have been and concentrate on how awesome the OTP is, you'll enjoy SWDBS. It had so much potential squandered in slapstick, gay shock jokes and pointless minor characters but the OTP is one of the best ever. I found it hugely frustrating to watch the first time around because I thought it was going somewhere and it didn't. But on rewatch, I just concentrate on the adorable.

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Hey - I'd recommend Do Bong Soon over BTLIOF, but I think I'd be in the minority? ^^ I enjoyed Do Bong Soon more.

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Haha Do Bong Soon looks so cute. I think I'll watch it very slowly to enjoy it better and longer.

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Strong Woman's first half was stronger. Watch thru about ep 9 and then feel feel free to drop if the magic fades.

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Me too. I liked the first 10 episodes but then just forgot about it. Have no interest in picking up again. But I just might, if only for the sake of finishing it.

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Funny, I watched Strong Woman EXACTLY because I wanted to forgot the terrible feeling after Hwayugi. It's really happy and cute and shallow, with moments where I coughed up my coffee on my laptop screen from unexpected laughter -- which is exactly what I needed. This show basically kills you with its cuteness and you're almost cringing from it but you still can't help smiling even if you're saying, "OMG, this is so stupid." Definitely what you need after a super heartbreaking ending.

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Oh yay that is so good to hear, lol. I definitely need this after Hwayugi.

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That's exactly what I was thinking! I absolutely adore BLIOF...but Bong Soon is a great pick-me-up. Was actually re watching parts of it recently and it was even more adorable than I remembered it being :D

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Dear my friends lifted me out of my drama slump. I absolutely adore the veteran actressses that are in this slice of life show. Didn't think I would like it as much as I do and sad that I'll be finishing this drama soon.

Nirvana in Fire 2 is not as engaging as the first season. The actors aren't as strong either. Will power through but doesn't quite have the same draw as the first one which I absolutely loved.

on another note, anyone played Telestrations? It's like broken telephone but with drawing. Awesome party game for those looking for a crowd pleaser.

I bought Rollicks (reverse charades game) which we will be playing tomorrow.

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Re : Nirvana in Fire 2, the story has a different focus and I think they try to be different but still can't stand by with Lang Ya Bang.

I read somewhere else that this is a drama when the 2nd lead or sidekick character that becomes main lead as opposed to a traditional hero, weird but bear with the explanation.

Yuanqi is a traditional hero in this sense with a tragic backstory, things to prove himself, an ally that comes suddenly, fate that catch up to him and the from zero to hero story... but our main lead is actually PingJing, who is born with everything, good family but get thrown upside down and chose his path.

I think the main story is actually engaging because they give a totally different hero, who has to mature so quickly after being indifferent about things, rise up in rank and then realised that he is still the same person that didn't have the ambition as people hoped.

We have family values and Kings who actually listen [both of them are open-minded and kindhearted].

The unsatisfaction comes from how the villain/antagonist treated than LYB. In Nif2, they just disappear without getting confronted and realised their wrongdoing. At one point I even think that they win the battle because they died thinking that their plan will succeed. There is a lot of morally grey area that didn't explore to finished their villain, LYB, on the other hand, gives all of the villain time to realise how screwed they are.

The pacing after PZ battle also off and dragged so it lost the steam, should have stick to 35 ep [iirc] as planned.

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That's some interesting take on the villains.

I didn't know it was planned for 35 eps instead of 50. Isn't 50 the norm for C dramas? In any case, I felt the draggiest was the beginning or rather the Puyang Ying plot was disappointing. It wasn't the kind of writing I had expected from the same person who masterfully wrote NIF.

As for the leads, I can't decide if Liu Haoran just had a boring role or he is still green. For sure, the character Yuanqi was more complex and gave room for Wu Haochen to shine. If there had been a more typical good looker as Yuanqi, I think Pingjing will lose even more support, haha.

The characters I enjoyed more were Xiao Tingsheng, Feizhan, the Crown Prince and even Secretary Xun towards the end. As for romance, PZ and wife couple was better than PJ and Lin Xi.

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The drama is a new script, doesn't originate from a novel and they made it so fast, like a year so the loose ends are kind of expected.

50 is usually the norm but there is news that the writer feels that story is only enough for 35 - 40 ep.

Pingjing is a character that starts as unlikeable and unrelatable while yuanqi is a spin-off from the traditional hero, rightful born, king's blood, unfair treatment, no ambition at 1st and sudden help by ally from far away land.

Pingjing for me is the epitome of the rich sidekick who has his life together and downside that we usually don't see in the camera, he just starts his momentum after Pingzhang.

The memorable character is definitely Tingsheng [who also the best dad and make jingyan's proud].

The romance from PZ and Dasao is perfect, heartbreaking, strong but also flawed.

Imo, the series aimed for a different message but NiF 2 is short-sighted in handling their villain/enemy/ grey character, therefore their hero also seen as less heroic, it's mutual development since the villain is the one that moved the plot.

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NIF engaged me because of all the "bromances", the humor, and the witty strategic thinking shown by the protagonists and villains. The tempo was not one-note and the pacing kept me wanting more.

The brotherly love demonstrated by Mei Changsu and Fei Liu; Mei + Prince Jing; Mei + Meng Zhi; Mei + Xiao Jingrui + Ya yujin gave me all types of feels that is missing in NIF2.

NIF2 - I can see what they are going for, as in a young hero who was "born with a silver spoon", but thus far, he is reckless and seems more "lucky" than "clever". Maybe that'll change after he's put in charge. I also prefer Feizhan but I much prefer Meng Zhi as the commander of Imperial Guards in the first one.

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Yes “Dear My Friends” was a pleasant surprise for me too! When I first started this show, I couldn’t really get into it, but by ep 3 I was really into it. The show was funny and sad, and shows the friendship between 5 women who lived in a different era.

This is how the five older ladies rank for me, in terms of who I liked most: I liked Hee Ja the most (the cute little church lady, who sadly starts to suffer from dementia), and her love interest. Followed by Choon Yi (the simple but shrewd business woman, who never got married, and who is getting bled dry by her older/extended family members). After these two I liked “Young Won” (the aging actress who lived a messedup life having several affairs, and fighting cancer), and Jung Ah (the very pitiful woman who lived her life with an awful husband and in-laws, at a time when society didn’t allow her to stand up to the abuse of the in-laws. Her husband starts to change in the end, but after what? A life time of misery?). My least favorite character was the heroine’s mother (I just couldn’t forgive her for what she tried to do to herself and her young daughter, after finding out that her husband was having an affair).

I liked the heroine, but frankly Jo In Sung’s character deserved better. I still loved their love story, and I loved Jo In Sung’s character and wished there was more of him in the show. I think it was very nice of him to agree to appear in this show as a minor character, but he still had a strong impact. I also liked the cameo by Daniel Henney (he too is very handsome). So overall this drama was a pleasant surprise, it was a very good slice-of-life/friendship drama with some romance thrown in.

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My favorite aunties were:
Jung Ah (her character and story line is very similar to my mother's, though my dad is not quite as awful as Jung Ah's husband) > Young Won > Choon Yi + Hee Ja > the little grandma that always play video games.

I agree, the heroine's mother is not as nice, she's too critical, does not allow her daughter to live her own life and thinks she's high and mighty. I did feel sorry that she got cancer though.

I was pleasantly surprised by Jo In Sung and Daniel Henney's cameos. Also loved Lee Kwang Soo as the doting son.

I think I'm a sucker for dramas that focus on friendships now. I can totally see my friends and I having similar experiences as the old ladies when we get to that age, though many of us are happily married and wouldn't put up with crap from anyone.

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Agree. NIF 2 isn't as interesting or as engaging as Season 1. Puyang Ying loses steam as the villain and his role ended in a disappointing manner. The story seemed more to be about Yuanqi rather than about the hero and his family. PZ and his wife, Feizhan were more impressive than Pingjing and Lin Xi. The latter's story as a couple didn't interest me much, I would have been equally okay with them being together or not in the end. Overall, NIF2 didn't create that tension as NIF1 did.

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*previous comment was entirely in Bold. Waeeee?*

Watching That Man Oh Soo. I think I'm finally out of my drama slump! This kind of magical realism is my favorite genre. Combined with a sweet rom-com? ^^ Perfect. It's been so long since I've wanted to watch the next epsiode of a drama.

On the real world front, somehow it feels like a lot has happened this week, and nothing has moved forward at all. I'm stuck in one spot.

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i always look at OT for drama recommendations, might check out that man oh man soo just because i think we have similar tastes in dramas...

also hope you resolve whatever it is you're going through right now. Had that same feeling last year but now things are beginning to be bright for me what with work application looking to be on the positive side :)

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Hahaha - I have to agree. I've noticed that if you like a drama, I'll probably like it too. ^^ On Oh Soo, I've seen better, but it's quite a charming show.

Thank you for the positive wishes! ^^ I just feel like everything is too steady in my life. A routine.
Work applications can be daunting! Glad it's looking positive at your end. :) *fingers crossed*

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Hopefully it stays that way until the end. 🙌 The plot is quite refreshing, together with "some romance" plot. Not a huge fan of fantasy drama, but if it is not so confusing, then I'll be gladly watching.

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Yup - I actually don't know how they intend to cover 16 epsiodes, because right now I think four or eight episodes would be enough to tell the story, but let's wait and see.

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I'm going through something similar greenfields. I'm unapologetically avoiding real life in dramas this weekend. I suspect I'm not going to get a chance for a while. Things are very stressful and there's nothing like a martini and an escape watch. Just finished Fight For My Way and catching up on some ongoing shows.

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I love your unapologetic finger to Real Life for the weekend. Saturday is entirely working for me, including a business dinner in another part of the city. :/ That leaves Sunday, one day. I'll join you in the martini and escape-drama tomorrow.

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hello fellow beannies!! it feels like hundred years ago since i actived in this site. haha. (sorry for no capslock, is broken).

i've been facing real life for 4-5months?? i dont know how many dramas i have been missing out. i am right about to take the dive again, any suggestion for current dramas?? i have lost for good help haha

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checking out *good witch*, feels like something I've seen a thousand times but I watch it just to turn my brain off anyway

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If you haven't watched a drama in 4-5 months, I recommend "Just Between Lovers". So far, it's my favorite drama of 2018.

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Anyone watching mystery queen? I don't think i'm liking the new directing style. I marathoned through the first season before following this season so maybe i'm not to used to it yet.

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It really feels different now. :( Last week, I didn't notice the directorial stuff, and was trying to ignore all the criticism in the comments so I can enjoy S2. But the difference can't be ignored this week, especially since the old side characters weren't there anymore to keep the mood similar. Hopefully it gets better next week. :'(

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But why are their friends and ex-mother-in-law there? Some of them were in first episode and then nothing. I really liked them.

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Yeah, I wish they kept some of the neighborhood gang in S2 because they helped a lot in keeping things familiar. T___T

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Yes, the difference is jarring this week. Let's hope it gets better.

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i am watching it and i wouldn't say i dislike the direction but yeah its significantly different than of first season. as if trying to prove it to be more on serious side (all efforts to make it seriously a detective drama) while first season was so effortlessly being same but i never felt it was so as i was enjoying the light side as much the serious one.

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I agree with what our fellow Beanies have said here, the directorial style is different and quite noticeable from the first season.

We'll see what happens with the upcoming episodes.

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At first I was REALLY upset with the change in the drama's tone from dark comedy to almost slapstick with the fast motion and CG angels/demons on the shoulder schtick. (I like those things but in a genre to which they belong).

This week's episodes upset me as well because I'd talked myself into accepting the lighter tone when BAM! I was in tears with the little girl and her mom after the horrid thing that happened to them. Maybe the director took note (or was told to take note) of the fans take on the change. Or maybe he felt that since not a lot happened in the first two episodes, so he thought he needed the funny to keep the audience until the darker crimes began to happen.

Whatever the case, I hope he picks one tone and sticks with it. I don't like dramas that shift in tone midway and especially not from episode to episode. Just my personal preference. (Although it did work for me in Chicago Typewriter.)

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glad you picked up the tone and explained it well.
i just felt the direction was not wht it was last season but now you mentioned and it made me think too. the light fun tone is missing (if not completely but significantly) this season. again as if drama is trying to prove it to be "Sherlocked version of MQ1" but which is not what we used to watch and loved. we need that same light fun comic tone to make us forget there are heavy and bad things out there.

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I thought episode 3 and 4 were much stronger than episode 1 and 2, which were slapsticky. I also really dislike when a show spends half an hour explaining everything that happened in Offscreensville between season and then the next half dismantling all of that again. Why bother?

I also miss my Cupcake Cop, although I understand that Lee Won-geun probably had bigger projects these days.

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I think differently. I have noticed this new season’s tone is different now that you’ve mentioned it but I’m okay with it. However, the last episode really pissed me off with the way everything was handled. I’m talking about the kid. It was such an interesting premise then they had to kdrama it and be forgiving 🙄. Other than that, I’ve been enjoying it. Oh and I still don’t get why they’re not together yet.

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I tried watching Should We Kiss 1st but even after 8 ep, it just ---

I can't say it's bad
It's not memorable
It's not funny
It's random
It has no real story, people just hanging out
but still isn't drama that you will call bad in any form,
it's bland

I probably drop it if ep 10 still the same,
anyone can give me the counter idea of what is good in this drama,
I totally didn't see any bad things in the drama but I don't see any good things either.

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Hmmm...you are not alone. On those sites which I catch this drama, I'd always come across comments like - "Why is it so slow?" "10 episodes and nothing is happening."

It baffles me because I find it
-very funny
-refreshing even because hardly any dramas centers around a -middle age couple and definitely not their sex life.
-the story is more real than most I've watched.

But it's okay if you don't get it. I don't get many shows which others love so I guess different strokes for different folks.

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I like it as well. I find it funny and not slow paced and there is so many things happening. It looks like Moo Han waited for Soon Jin all this years and there's so many little details I love.

It's a great show. But many people found Just Between Lovers slow and that not lot of happened there as well, but for me it was one of the best I've seen so far and I've seen a lot. I'm not anymore 20 years old, maybe that's why.

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I’m loving everything about it but I won’t deny that I have to raise my eyebrows at somethings that I won’t fly in the real world but then, it’s a kdrama.
I hate, hate Oh Ji ho in this... more than I hate the daughter.

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I finished to the latest episode, I find it okay but definitely not memorable,
the lead is not usual, flower boy but it doesn't really make any different in my viewing experience,
immaturity and struggle happens just like if you shifted the age,
the comedy is in the tip of tongue, I saw what they try to accomplished as funny but it's not funny nor relaxing, just useless banter

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I was ready to dump it until the fart scene - I snorted my coffee!
I struggle with the deceitfulness of her character- I hope it’s a defence she’s developed to cope and that twu wuv will strip it away. On that note, I’d also like to strip away her friend, her ex-husband and his wife 🙄, but keep their daughter, she’s a cutie

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I love this drama but I can understand why some find it 'bland'. It is perhaps an age thing as I am in the much older age bracket, haha.

It has quite a different narrative style, slow burning plot-wise and relationship-wise between the leads.

Here, the character played by Kim Sun Ah is a curious case in kdrama landscape in that there are two versions on display - the real Soo-Jin who is struggling with life on so many fronts barely geeting out her depression self and the seducing Soo-jin half-heartedly trying to find an anchor in life. Of course, none other than KSA can play this better although some may find her seduction cringeworthy but this is a hallmark of her performance because her projects always have this duality that you love and feel embarrassed by her character at the same time, notably Kim Sam Soon and Shin Mirae in City Hall. More real women than most, dare I say.

Then we have the magnetic Kam Woo-Sung, one sexy adjusshi whose subtle change of gesture tells million behind than the many in-your-face performance we are seeing in these days.

I like how they structure each episode that at the beginning of each episode they add/elaborate what's left behind from the last episode and at the end the 'he cherished-but-she-forgot' moments 10, 6, 4 years ago to unfold the story in the present and past parallel. There's always an urge in me to re-watch to capture better the feels and the back stories. It is kind of hard to explain why I love it so much but it is really the "feel" that is winning my heart.

If anything, I can certainly go without the young pairing story which is aplenty in many other 'bickering' romcoms.

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Dear K-Drama Overlords and dear Beanies, how are you?.

What is happening in DramaBeans?, I have seen less Minions and also less Dramas recapped. Is this only a momentary slump?.

I am no friend of everyone overexerting (like recapping 11 shows at a time), but I am alarmed to see so few Dramas on full recap.

I am thankful for this space and I would like to see it flourish again.

Hoping a happy middle is achieved,

FGB

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I feel the same way. What I miss the most now is the updates on upcoming dramas. So many dramas are releasing teasers, posters, and reviews and DB used to write about them all, but now there is ZERO. What I find the most troubling is that no one in the staff is addressing this elephant in the room. In the past they were very open about problems they were facing whether they were technical, personnel, or personal in nature. Mary hinted a couple of weeks ago that many things on the website stopped working, but why can't they just say that?
Is there some kind of a legal issue so no one can talk for now?
What is going on? :(

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Yes, it's very discouraging / frightening over the past several months (more-or-less since JB posted about being in a drama slump).

Besides the dire theory that JB might be (gasp) tired of kdramas, it's easy to design a tentative theory that money is the root of all DB's problems: (take the following with a lot of salt, pepper, msg, etc)

1: New site cost a lot of time/effort/money but didn't generate much new revenue ?
2: Ad revenue is down (??) because of ad-blockers and/or people just not clicking on ads. (This is all my fault - I hate ads and I think I have only clicked on 2 in the last 20 years. Sorry).
3: Shop was supposed to bring in lots of $ but didn't bring enough (?) and was dropped. (Hey, mail order. It's hard to compete with Amazon. But I did my bit).
4: Weekly videos were another un-successful attempt to bring in more $ ?
5: Lack of money means recappers get compensated less means fewer recaps.
6: Web site crashes and is slow largely because they can't throw enough money at their cloud provider ?
7: Financial woes contribute to JB's drama slump ?????

If I'm right and money is a problem (or if the overlords just need more designer handbags) just tell us where to mail the checks. Seriously. If secure credit-card processing is a challenge, go low-tech with a post office box and a DBA.

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I don't know about anything else, but if $$ is the reason for DB also being in a slump, I'd be down to donate to keep my fav site going.

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@lordcobolbol,

Thanks for troubleshooting and offering an elegant solution.

"If secure credit-card processing is a challenge, go low-tech with a post office box and a DBA."

I love it! When all else fails, revert to analog!

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I wonder how much is a funding issue and how much is just mistakes were made and are still being made. The website is a mess because either it's not working properly or is slow. I think if money was a huge problem, posting more rather than posting waaay less would be better tactic since DB made their name by their recaps. I don't know if DB hired professionals for the new website or winged it, but the website isn't running as smoothly as it should months after the relaunch. I'm sad with the direction of the website and lack of recapping and posts. Please DB listen to your fans and don't ruin a good thing.

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something something Kocowa partnership... feel like MBAs with business models took over. Was here 10 years ago because JB was the only one I found writing about Yi Sung Yol's music...never left but not so sure anymore.

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We've two dramas in current recap list. I don't recall such small number of dramas being recapped ever. I won't count Misty or Mother. They don't even update casting, script reading or occasional movie casting news like they used to. The site has become slow. It discourages me to Log In. Something is wrong. I honestly don't care for all the added features. I like the wall and beanies interaction features. But I am willing to give up all that and would love the old Dramabeans back which had actual drama recsps. I don't care for the new video, shop features. I thought those were unnecessary features given youtube is there and other established sites for buying stuff. I have a feeling those aren't generating enough revenue like they hoped either. So, like I said I would gladly take back the old Dramabeans over what we have right now. I am sorry site mods if I come across a bit blunt but I am scared for this site being in serious financial woos. I love this space, would hate to not be able to be here. Hope y'all are listening.

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This, 100%. I missed the articles this site used to churn out on a daily basis, even the silly stuff like "Oh, snap!" Sure I can go to soompi or hancinema to get my drama updates, but there is literally no one out there who could translate and write up a news articles like DB staff can, not to mention the comments that follow. I will give up every single new feature and send in money to get those back, and it saddens me to think that this site may quickly lose readers if things don't improve soon.

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*takes deep breath*

I confess worse thoughts than monetary woes have cross my mind. I fear that a fall out among the staff has taken place behind the scenes. I found it strange that HeadsNo2 and gummimochi just left without a word. Tell me if I had missed something. If there was some announcement or farewell of sorts, I apologize for my error. Otherwise, they have been recapping on DB for a long time and I didn't even know exactly when they left or will they return? I know DB doesn't owe me an explanation or anything but... I also miss girlfriday and javabeans jesting together on podcast, talking about a drama in a written feature and things like that.

I don't want to speculate further. If it's monetary, maybe beanies can pitch in. I don't patronize the shop because k beauty products are easily accessible in where I am. I'd rather contribute directly.

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How do you know HeadsNo2 and gummimochi are officially gone and not on a break? I'm confused because I see them listed (with several others) on the About Us staff section, even though many of those guys haven't been posting lately.

You're not the first one to mention long-term staffers leaving. Is their lack of activity the reason you believe they're gone. I'm really puzzled about the staffing situation. Nothing makes sense, and DB hasn't been forthcoming.

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I don't know and initially I just thought they were busy or on a break like you said. As time passed, I began to wonder.

I didn't know that there have been mention of this before.

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A few months ago, I posted on here about The Rose Elf. I have a new fairytale: Tale of a Mother.

When a woman's sick baby is taken away by Death, she embarks on a journey to find him. Along the way, it becomes clear she is willing to give up anything to find him, since she sacrifices her eyes and beautiful hair to get to Death. She gets there, but how do you think it ends?

(How great would this be as a fantasy drama?)

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would definitely watch that!!! Anyways dramaland could use more strong moms than stories about heartless chaebols we've seen 20000 times before XD

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Then I hope you're watching Mother.

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I am, just a bit behind though...

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Is it bad that I started thinking who will be cast as the Dark and Handsome Death?

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He was an old man in the fairytale, but would no doubt be cast as some hot ajusshi like Lee Seon-kyun if this were a drama!

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That's the intro of God's Gift: 14 Days! (I'm just excited to recognize the story since I'm watching this right now haha)

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Am I the only one whose mind immediately jumped to God's Gift? I think the original fairytale ended in a tragic way (because I remember the character in that drama rewrited the ending to give the mother and her child a happily ever after).

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This one is Andersen, the master of heartbreaking stories. If it could have a happier spin...

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Yep, it is indeed. I actually quite liked it - she chose to stop the death of another child, even though it meant letting her child go.

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this sounds like a European fairytale. They're quite dark...

I'd watch this. I'd read it too if you've completed the story.

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This actually resembles a Hindu mythological story but only in this case, it is a tale of a devoted wife Savitri who used her wits to win back the life and riches of her husband from the hands of Yamraj (god of death). Legend has it that she literally followed Yama to the gates of heaven in order to bring her husband back to life.

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Hey All!

Not really watching any drama right now...eagerly anticipating some upcoming ones...Mystery Queen 2 and Pretty Noona Who Buys Me Food.

The #metoo scandal, the political candidate who quit amongst the many other people who are kinda paying for it and the barage of dating news to try and over it up is ridiculous. I'm just waiting to see what else gets revealed in trying to cover up the movement. It's sick and disgusting to me that these people in power are more interested in protecting themselves rather than getting vindication for the victims. Hope to see more of these cowards revealed. And i want legal punishment for these victims...not just for them to lose their jobs.

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Yea, at first I was skeptical with all these conspiracies theory that the higher ups try to cover up the #metoo with celeb dating news, but for past few weeks, we got all this nonstop dating news, which seems ridiculous to me and then this week bam! Park Shin Hye! Suzy! Which coincidentally at the time when that politician got exposed. Also, for them to out famous celebs dating, they are for sure trying really hard to cover up the scandal. Really sick and disgusting indeed.

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And tomorrow they'll all write, produce, direct and act in a drama about corruption where the rich use the media and their wealth to make sure the rules don't apply to them...

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my life's plate is already full with real life work but still i am in no mood to give up my kdrama love.
watching Mystery Queen2, Good Whitch, Grand Prince, Man Oh Soo.... and still planning to add one to marathon i.e. Cinderella Man.
hope ill manage so much without making my real life suffer.... but yeah anything for kdrama love.

Anyone here watching MQ2 ? how you are finding it so far as compared to first season... not in terms if being good or bad but story, direction and obviously uri main couple ???

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Regarding Mystery Queen 2, I'm hoping for a bit more quirky, especially from Seol-ok because I find that this personality characteristic suits this actress particularly well. This preference, however, may be because I'm spoiled from having seen her personality in Season 1. But that's ok, it's nevertheless great to see Seol-ok and Wan-seung back in action of course! :)

It may also be that often-mentioned by now, directorial style. The time spent on scenes, and on dialogue seems to be cut a little short this season in favor of more, dare I say, abrupt style, moving from one thing to the next more quickly. I'm still looking forward to seeing what happens though!

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Seol-ok and Wan-seung are back in action and there is a lot that these 2 can do to make this drama quirky fun and entertaining.
Well explained abt the directorial style.. this season its very much similar to Sherlock Holmes drama, like transition from one scene to other, then how action get paused and actors do their analysis ( that petrol drop pausing scene) etc.
This season its like " detective drama at center with quirky leads" while last season was "quirky lead's as center of detective drama".

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I am a bit frustrated because I saw all 4 episodes of MQ2 and still do not know what to make of it. But that case of burned mother was well narrated and very touching.

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lol.. i am too yet to decide what to conclude abt it yet but still i am on this ride till the end (may be just to see how they develop the romance between 1 dummy detective n her mystery queen..)
i too liked the way ye na's mother plot line used to give a lesson to parents out there to not to let their kids run away from responsibility (big or small) and how it ended was appreciated....

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I do not have that much time right now but I hope to watch at least until these two get together. Let´s hope the pastry shop owner is not the ex-girlfriend´s spy or worse, herself in disguise (you never know with this show).

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third wheel that typical kdrama second lead... whosoever she is, she is here for some big thing to do. cause how she handed over that amount of money with cake it cant be someone passing by. she will play some major role in keeping lead couple away (deliberately or not.. cant say).
hope you manage and watch till they get together to share some insightful thoughts...

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I was wondering if the Fancy Cake Lady is the one who threw the rock into the classroom window?

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I came here to see if anyone was watching Grand Prince. I've watched the first episode and looking for reasons to continue. It's not that it's bad but when it starts off with so much angst in the first episode I'm always hesitant to continue. What do you think of it so far?

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i started it just as one option among many, and after 2 episodes i dint dislike it. It was nicely started and Elder Bro Lee Kang (only character with so much story to tell ) impressed me with variety of his acting chops... story wise most of the saeguks start that way, so much of back story, blood shedding, consperecies and politics alongwith angst. So its not new here too. at same time i dont find it gripping (so far) that ill be on the edge of my chair,bitting nails to figure out whats next for me (thats how I wait for MQ2 and Good Witch).

So ill watch it any time coming week when ill hv nothing else to watch, and see how its building up the story before deciding to continue or drop it. May be next week ill be in better situation to share what i think abt it.

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Hi Everyone! As always, I hope you are all doing well!

To all the Beanies on the East coast of the U.S. and caught up in the severe weather, please stay safe and warm!

This week:

Radio Romance - Ok, so 4 episodes to go and we still don't really know Jason's real deal. Why??

Misty - The drama I think about all week! Fabulous and fantastic!

Money Flower - Finally finished this one. The ending could've been a bit more dramatic, but that's ok.

Mystery Queen 2 - Definitely not sure about that bakery owner ..... and yeah, the directorial style is definitely different this time around.

That's all for now. ...... Take care everyone and have a great Friday!

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Bakery Owner.. is the most mysterious character out there. and i am really looking forward to how her presence will add more mystery to already mysterious plot line.
and direction is indeed different than before.

you too hv great Friday n happy weekend.

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At this point we have no real details/backstory regarding the bakery owner (although I already have an idea about who she might be). But it's still early in the show so they might try to keep us guessing about her.

Have a great weekend also!

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I'm more than upset with Jason at this point--or rather how the writers are depicting him. I thought he would be the voice of reason in Su-ho's life and now he's just a tattle-tale to CEO mom. I really hate that he's a psychiatrist too.

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Oh I'm pretty sure Jason is out to get him and is not just a little tattle tale. I think he's a brother of the guy who died, or something like that.

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That’s unfortunate, but wouldn’t Su-Ho know this—he was pretty close to Ji-Woo—you’d think he’d know about a brother? Oh well, I’m just going to leave this character, and hope that he’s not a sinister as they want us to believe.

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I hate it when a story makes the therapist a weirdo or worse, a professional abusing his powers. Fgs, there are so many people not willing to visit psychologists because they fear them. Must they add to that?

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+1000, and with all the mental illness that runs rampantly untreated in most of the world, leading to suicides, homicides or worse, and Korea certainly has its fair share, you would think they would be portrayed in a better light.

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Many people I know would profit from talking to a shrink but they feel it makes them stigmatized and instead do nothing. Depression and what not are so hard to fight alone.
To think that I liked Jason at first, gosh.

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@ally Right? It's so sad that for the longest time everyone in Su-ho's orbit has either been hiding something, manipulating him, using him ..... it's amazing he's not more psychologically affected.

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I didn't watch any drama, actually thinking to start My Husband Oh Jak Doo because I haven't seen KKW in anything.

I listen to Kpop this week and I really like Red Velvet Look, Bad Boy and Kingdom Come, it just so good, they sing well and the beat is just perfect. I have this song with several of the mashup [bad boy x heartshaker] in the loop.

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So why can't we get decent endings to k-dramas? Lack of ideas by the writers/directors? The mistaken belief that open or unhappy endings make for better dramas?

I'm mad that the Hong sisters pulled another "Big" on us (but I will say that overall A Korean Odyssey was a much, much better than Big). Like Big, what could have been the best part of the A Korean Odyssey they refused to show us.

I continue to watch "Radio Romance" but only for the H/h as I find everyone else annoying.

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Finally my internet is working again!

had a busy month beanies, and will continue to be busy the next few weeks as well what with upcoming requirements for work.

Only upside is I will no longer have to wait for weeks for a drama I like to be subbed (ahem, Children of A Lesser God, *someone subbed this please*) because probably after my work application is over, I'd be drowning in my dramas to be watch list. :)

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Hi hi beanies!

That Man Oh Soo – the first episode reminded me of the first episode of Personal Taste. I like the slight touch of mystic intrigue – love potion #9 as it were – and the generational effects of it all.

Misty – I’m moved by the depth of anguish and hurt for Hye Ran, Tae Wook, and Eun Joo and the way each person carries it out (revenge, pride, love, protection). I’m unsure of Gyu Seok’s loyalties and the thing I hope for the most is that Hye Ran really sees herself through honest eyes. I pity Eun Joo and although I could see the miscarriage coming, her painful turmoil state of mind is scary.

Radio Romance – sweet show. Mr. Namaste is cute on the outside but he grates me because he’s too suppresseding-ly (not a word!) understanding. I’d hate him as a boyfriend!

Grand Prince – well, watching for Yoon Shi Yoon, of course (I would love him as a boyfriend *see comment above*). So far, after 2 eps, there’s nothing new, so I hope we aren’t dragged through a boring segeuk (cause I’m not much of a sageuk fan in the first place).

Keeping up with weekly k-variety shows: 1N2D, Infinite Challenge, I Can See Your Voice, King of Mask Singer, Society Game S2, Hyori’s B&B, Hello Counselor, Master in the House, Battle Trip, Baek Jong Won’s Ally Restaurants (this is an interesting show about chef Baek working with teeny tiny alley restaurants to keep them viable by helping out with efficiency, the menu, etc.), Law of the Jungle, Entertainment Weekly, and Immortal Songs 2. Radio Star has been fun lately – last episode had Sams – Sam Hammington, Sam Okyere, Sam Kim, and N. By the way, does anyone know if Abnormal Summit is going to return?

I’m off on a spring trip to Chicago next week – hope the weather is good, or at least not winter stomy! Happy Friday! ♥

P.S. I’m pretty excited that http://www.cimiart.wordpress.com reached a million views  !

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Congrats on the million views!!

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Thanks a million, korfan!

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Waiting for some current drama to grab me. So far. . .nothing. So I'm rewatching old shows (that I loved, or forgot that I didn't love, or thought that I loved.)

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Same here, I tried to watch some of the new shows and nothing, ( The Good Witch = a maybe). When Misty and Mother are over, I fear I’ll be adrift in a sea of blah. Time to dust off some older shows or just delve into some Japanese taiga dramas. I wish the main drama channels carried more of them, watching on bootleg sites is a pain. Meanwhile, I am rewatching Yoo-na’s Street , which is like comfort food.

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Hello all! Hope every one well :)

Ive been terribly absent but decided to drop a note to say hi and also that Im busy because I'm off to Sydney for a short trip- and it's nostalgic because Sydney was the place where I first started to obsess over the Dramabeans website! haha. Good times those.... *wipes away a tear*

Hope everyone is well! I'm still 2 episodes behind for Hwayugi but despite my best efforts to avoid spoilers, Ive heard alot of grumbling about the ending... so I shall keep my expectations low and just enjoy the pretty that is Lee Seung Gi! If anything, Hwayugi introduced me to a new Oppa, so yay! haha.

Also, have been trying to come to terms with things in my life, and realise that perhaps sometimes dreams have to take a backseat for a while. It doesnt mean that I have given up on them, but just that for the moment now, other things are fighting for my time. Because an opportunity came up to go to Seoul for an 8 week medical exchange programme FREE OF CHARGE (I only need to pay airfare there and back) but the timing just isn't right just this moment, so I don't think I can sign up even though it seems like a potential dream come true. Ah well. While it's true we only live once, I think sometimes we can't always chase our dreams because real life stuff sometimes are just as, if not more important. Like you know, my husband and kid XD

Have a great weekend everyone! :)

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Here's praying that things work out for you to go to Seoul to do that medical exchange! I know how much this would mean for you! If not this year, but sometime soon. Now, if only they would need an allergist. LOL! But family is more important and should trump anything, so I'm all for that too. Fighting!

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Let me go and re read the fine print later and see if it’s open to people in USA too. Or else you can apply Ally and I can live vivaciously through you! Haha.

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Actually, my clinic/patients would probably revolt if I was gone for 2 months! Maybe 2 weeks!

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Good to see you! Have a good trip to Sydney. ..... The opportunity in Seoul certainly sounds great and I truly hope that something can be worked out. But as you mentioned, real life things do happen and I certainly understand the need to attend to those things also. Wishing you all the best.

Have a great weekend also!

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Sydney started very rocky with the Boy vomiting like a zillion times on the airplane. Lol. But we are here now and all is good thank goodness! Just needing to catch up a bit on sleep..... haha

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Oh no! So sorry to hear you had to go through such an unpleasant experience with your son during the flight! Poor little guy, I know it must of been a very uncomfortable situation for him also. I do hope he is feeling much better! ..... After the much-needed rest, have some fun and enjoy your stay in Sydney! 😊

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Hello there! Enjoy your trip and the last episodes. Since you lowered your expectations you should be fine.
Your decision will definitely be the right one. And who knows, you may get another chance in the future.

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Yup. Hopefully the opportunity will come around again, and this time the stars will all align!

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* waves to @michykdrama *

Have a wonderful visit in Sydney!

When the time is right for you to go to Seoul, you'll go. Maybe you could let them know that the timing doesn't work for you at this time, but to let you know when the next opportunity rolls around. Plant a seed and see what happens. It can't hurt. ;-)

Here's hoping that The Boy is fine and dandy. ;-) Vaya con Dios!

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I am considering doing that but not sure if it will work against me... anyway I have another 5 days to decide. Haha

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Stupid moment of the day: I just found out that actor Lee Won Geun and idol Onew are two complete different people... Whoops ><;

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Heh, they do have similar smiles!

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I am watching Koi wa Ameagari no You ni/After the Rain (anime), still can't find drama to watch, not sure why.

It has a crazy premise, 17 years old girl finds herself inexplicably falling in love with her manager, a divorced 45-year-old man with a young son.

-- hold your comment,
the anime is surprisingly lighthearted but also slipped the real concern.

The girls is the one that chased the guy and he is flabbergasted, he doesn't know how to react or keep refusing, he doesn't make a move on her but she always moves forward,

Rather than a love story, the show for me becomes a show that tells how these people cope with what lost in their life. The girl finds hope in this old guy because of a happenstance, she is full of love hormone, short-sighted, don't think too far to the future but sincere. The guy that sees this sincerity moved because he saw his old self in her, as in energy, confidence and that sincerity but also told her that he can't accept her.

There is also hypocrisy plays in the shadow, she knows it isn't the norm by actively hiding it and also underlying the big issue about how she suddenly lost her passion, he cope with this feeling of fall in love and throw herself at the moment.
The guy knows that it will never work but don't have the heart to give her the cold rejection and also because it's something that feels good, he lacks confidence and doesn't think himself as someone that deserves this much love yet he gets it and like it, even if he has no romantic feeling for her.
They both play with fire but the show is also lighthearted [also there is no sexual innuendo between them here]

I am not sure where the ride goes, some people said the manga ending is half good half bad and they have hope for the anime since the anime adds things from the manga.

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Manga has ended !!? Woah. I'm not reading any manga for past 15 months - except 2 monthly Excellent Manga.
When i saw raws of Koi wa Ameagari - i told my cousin brother this manga gonna be a hit and be ready for anime in future but i was surprised to see it getting a Movie and Heroine is Komatsu Nana. I was also surprised to see KAKEGURUI'S live adaptation and i've checked from 2016 the volume of Manga to Live-adaptation has increased.

There are many other Slive-of-Life + slight love story or romance manga out there waiting for translation and they might get Live-Action adaptations in future.

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ah, I need to apologise,
I searched but they didn't say that the manga ended,
the end of the manga is an info I get from comment section about chapter 82 as the end chapter of the manga, so take the info as a rumour, sorry

Komatsu Nana is exactly like how I think Akita [female lead] is , sharps eyes, slender and pretty.
I don't know they get a movie adaptation, this is a good news.

I just hope people don't jump on the bandwagon of "taboo relationship and exploitation" since the 1st time I find the anime, it's in an article that criticising how low Japanese cinema/anime has become, The article also lacks credibility but the premise can make people go from 0-100.

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This anime is so beautiful, the story, the art, the songs. The ED song especially, Aimer can do no wrong for anime OST.

Totally agree with your comment, this anime is more than just a love story. I love that we can understand their mind, the story definitely sort of challenging on what's the norm and the thin line of morality (and kudos to Manager for never crossing the line so far and just be there to be her support system, I mean Akira is definitely gorgeous) but through it all, it just goes to show that people are never black-and-white, they are complex creature.

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I find the anime from an article that "criticises" anime and shock while watching it cause it's so different than what people are claiming about.

I am sure anime can be bad and pandering with all of their genres but it seems like this anime will make a lot of people comment harshly just based on the premise.

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That's such a shame, they really shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Imagine if they condemn the show without watching it, they will miss a lot of hidden gems.

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I think I got mixed up with My Husband Oh Jak Doo and That Man, Oh Soo. *eyerolls at self*

Which should I start?

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Hmm this is quite a tough question LOL. I watched Oh Jak-doo first since it started first, but I think maybe I loved first two epi of Oh-soo / Evergreen more. Depends on your mood? Maybe if you crave for some light stuffs, then the latter is for you. But if want more serious stuff, then the former is for you.

How I wish the production of this drama decided to use Evergreen only, it's very confusing when a drama has two different titles. And both titles give different kind of feeling as well - That Man Oh-soo made us came to the drama with the expectation to see the main focus to be about the hero and his magical power, but Evergreen seems to be more suitable with the storyline based on the first two epi.

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Happy Friday! I wish there was an open thread for Mystery Queen 2 or at least some more interest on it. I enjoy watching it even though it’s not perfect. I like seeing Wan Seung + Seol Ok’s cute, bickering relationship and want more. MQ2 and Radio Romance are my highlights during the week.

3 episodes behind on Hwayugi. UGH had no time last weekend to catch up. Trying my best to avoid spoilers.

Still need to figure out my drama list. I like to write down upcoming shows in a calendar to kinda, sorta get an idea of what live shows I can juggle.

Been busy trying to be healthier too. Looking up recipes, meal prepping, making smoothies, almost daily exercises. I might actually enjoy smoothies more now than I did years ago. I think because I was lacking protein/fiber before so I often felt hungry like an hour later.

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🙋 for MQ2 open thread.. and i am literally commenting on every post or comment abt it, cause i want to damn badly. i am loving MQ2 beyond words and cant wait to find another way to pour it all (other than my fan wall).
anyone from admin please listen to our plea...

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Really? I couldn't finish the first episode, and I had been counting the days for season 2 to premiere. Ugh. I really dislike the push for a love line between the two leads. It changes their dynamic (and I never saw their chemistry as romantic), and too much time and focus was spent on that aspect rather than the crime solving, which is where their relationship thrives and shines. I'm cool with not having an open thread for this one.

Maybe Dramabeans should do a poll to see how many folks want an open thread. There must be others like you who do want it.

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The first episode was the one that had the most romantic/lovey scenes so far. It was over the top with the wacky humor too. They kinda had the viewers get caught up with the two leads' current status. Will they or won't they? Their relationship will always be a part of the show, but the criminal investigations came back to being a main focus in future episodes.

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So I am currently watching Hwayugi and I can't help but think that if Jin Seon-mi can't bleed she must have some really bad shark weeks (or would it be evil spirit week for her?).

How has she survived 25 years without Son Oh-Gong? She is completely incompetent towards evil spirits and how to deal with them but has somehow survived 25 years with this special blood.

The show is entertaining but I take it with a grain of salt.

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I was in a drama slump for a couple of months, but have been catching up on the good ones since last month. Had to go check the year end beanie ratings to find good ones:
I watched Because This Life is Our First and Just Between Lovers and enjoyed both. Then picked up Hwayugi, didn't bother watching the last episode as I read the recap here and do not wish to spend an hour and ruin my mood over the ending.
Just finished Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms and I wonder do Chinese historicals lean towards tragic endings? I remember being sad on finishing Princess Weiyoung too.
Am watching Mother and wish to get started with Misty, but hate to wait for just two episodes every week, so will marathon it when the show is about to finish. Any idea, how is 'I Have a Lover'?

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Historicals are based on dead people so the chance of a tragic ending is very high :).

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i really liked I Have a Lover! it portrayed a very realistic and sad event and takes the viewer along the ride through a huge range of emotions... it didn't 'take sides' or seem to make judgement.

and of course, Ji Jin Hee was very handsome in that one as well...
; )

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I thought I Have A Lover was totally addictive (after episode 9) and then ... well let's just say I never finished it. I just checked - I got as far as episode 38 out of 50. With no real interest in picking it up again.

Anyway, it's got twins, double amnesia (this is not a spoiler) and yes, a very hot Ji Jin Hee so it just depends on whether that's your thing or not.

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He sure is! :D I watched A Jewel in the Palace and Dong Yi, bo