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Open Thread #558

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Happy OT Beanies!

I feel left out. Half the world is watching World Cup and the other half What's Wrong With Secretary Kim

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lol I laughed a lot thanks x) .
For me Secretary Kim is a schedule filler before Ha Suk Jin comeback drama next week ^^ . I might not drop it before seeing the cameo of Lee Min Ki and Jung So Min, sometimes cameos are funnier than the drama (e.g. Jo Jung Suk cameo in The legend of the blue sea, I dropped the show after the cameo x) ).
What are you watching ?

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Somehow I just didn't go back and pick up WWSK. Going by my record, I don't know if I ever will. I always have the best intentions to continue these dramas but that's about it.

Are you Ha Suk Jin's fan? Yay! Let's fangirl together!

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I enjoyed 1% of something, Drinking Solo and Radiant office, he's an actor I like, I haven't watched his other dramas though, don't know if it's enough to be called "fan".
Btw let's say my life is quite messy right now, so I might need a House Keeper drama as healing drama x)

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We could all do with a Housekeeper like Ha Suk Jin!

I even watched Once Upon a Time in Saengchori. It's quite a fun show, his character was quite the same - in it he was the Insufferable Maths Genius. As in any HSJ shows, his character always gets some humbling so he became a Maths Idiot due to lightning strike. Yeah, I love the karma of it all. I was content to see him struggle with kindergarten maths book.

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I read the synopsis of " Once Upon a Time in Saengchori" , along with your description it seems like a nice funny drama. I'll add it on my to watch list (already too long ^^').
Let's see if the fanwall will go crazy about House Keeper next week *fingers crossed*.

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@kudoran-- Just an FYI that Once Upon a Time in Saengchori is a funny, quirky show but it has a pretty heavy ending. I won't give any spoilers, but I've heard people complain that they felt blindsided by the last episode.

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@risaa thanks for the info ^^

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I loved once upon a time in saenchori. That drama was hilarious! Yes it does get a bit more serious towards the ending but I severely enjoyed every minute of it. 馃槀

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I'm in that second half.

Don't feel left out though! If you are currently watching something, I do sincerely hope you're enjoying it! :)

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Thanks! I am enjoying my shows especially Life on Mars and I'm not continuing "Live" with renewed vigor(was sidetracked for a bit).

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Are you watching Life on Mars? Because I'm fairly certain half the world is also watching LoM. (Overlaps between the other two - it;s a veritable Venn Diagram)

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Yes I am, it's my favorite show now.

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Oi Oi! I was on a vacation and now i am back. Looks like i am in both of the above worlds. Have you dropped CAHM? I am loving Life on Mars as well. ;)

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Sadly, I have not been able to muster the energy to watch CAHM this week. I don't know if I will continue. Maybe.

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I see, happy watching! ;)

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You are even better than me. If fact, I think I am left out as I have not watched all the dramas that have been recapping. I only watch Investigations couple that is it. I think for me it is real life take over and kids are out of school... We are enjoying summer so far...

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I hear you. SUmmer flicks aren't that interesting either.

I have terrible English so I try to read more but I kept falling asleep before I even get to the next chapter.
I seriously need to keep my eyes open with toothpicks lol.

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I'm struggling with TV addiction all my life, and Nirvana in Fire got me relapse again. I lost my self-control when I was watching it. Mei Changsu also has come to my dreams. I think NiF is going to define my taste in TV show in the future, just like The Legend of Condor Heroes back in the 1980s, that was the first time I found my favorite cross-dressing trope.
What are your most memorable tv show/drama, mine are:
1. The Legend of Condor Heroes (1983 TVB Hongkong)
2. The Voyager (US series 1980s, the first time I learn about time travel trope)
3. Doraemon
4. La Picara Sonadora (1990s Mexican telenovela, I hope I can meet beanies who have memory of this telenovela)
5. Band of Brothers
6. Nirvana in Fire (because it's not only about pugilist world, but also real politics)

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And I鈥檓 going to feed your current C-drama addiction because I鈥檓 evil virtual friend like that! :P*
Some of the most memorable tv shows that I can remember:
*Rosalinda
*Meteor Garden
*Naruto & Dragon Ball- Me & my brothers were so addicted to this animes.

I鈥檓 glad you enjoyed NIF! <3

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Meteor Garden, oMo, I used to really like it, until I don't. I tried to watch it again last year and still enjoyed it but it's no longer define my taste in drama. After I entered job market I really can't tolerate rude, childish or socially inept characters no matter how big their hearts. I still fond the memory of Tao Mingse, but I wont watch any drama with similar characters 馃槃
I personally love Maria la del Barrio more than Rosalinda, Marimar or Maria Mercedes. But they're all same characters actually 馃槃. I agree Rosalinda is the best one, she's smart and had a job as florist.

When I started about three weeks ago Ireally wished NiF was the only c-drama I would watch, but that's impossible 馃槃

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I am curious about how they would adapt the new Meteor Garden with more modern sensibilities. It looks mighty pretty, but hopefully it will continue the recent C-drama rom-com evolution.

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I might check the new adaptation just for the sake of memory.
What Tao Mingse did to Sanchai on the stairs was a sexual assault, I cant imagine the PD will replicate that scene.
Imo, Tao mingse's character and attitude should going trough overhaul.

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Just saw the latest teaser and it looks like it鈥檇 be funnier than the the drama鈥檚 previous versions.

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I have not seen the original despite having heard so much about it. Now I think I have missed the time window to watch it...the show perhaps has already passed the expiration date.

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I still love TW Meteor Garden >we dont need police if beg forgiveness can solved problem<< lol

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I didn鈥檛 watch Thalia鈥檚 other works but I watched Rosalinda twice. I really loved it, makjang and all. Lol.

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I didn't realize I was already exposed to makjang thanks to telenovelas before seeing Kpop idols react to them on youtube LOL

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@mango No one can't beat telenovela makjang. Let's take Marimar for instance, an illiterate urchin, who had been deceived and used by her ex-husband and his family, became the owner of the biggest casino in the city in just less than 2 years??

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@manohira Marimar is a classic ! There was a rerun last year and when I watched a few episodes it was so crazy HAHA

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OM... are you guys talking really about Mexican "Telenovelas"??? I remember being a child and watching a little bit of Thalia, but actually that was at a neighbor's house because we didn't have tv. So thank to my poverty, I didn't watch the whole thing 馃槄馃槀馃槀馃槀

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Yes, telenovelas 馃槃 ,they were huge here in 1990s and early 2000s. But they're not always from Mexico, the first one was actually from Brazil, Little Missy.

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Oh my gosh Rosalinda ! My mom basically grew up with Thalia haha. Telenovelas were a big thing in my childhood too. El Diablo, Muneca Brava, Da Cor do Pecado are among my favorite.

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Wow woo woo here there is a big Spanish community and I didn't even realised!!!!!馃榾
Saludos!!!!
I must acknowledge I have watched some episodes (I doubt I have ever watched a whole thing, because these "novelas" are like 150 episodes each馃槀, maybe more)... But I remember I have watched few episodes here and there. Chica Da Silva, by the way and Betty La Fea, because they were funny...
But then again, never watched them all, because of lack of tv.
Now that I have YouTube, I have been able to re-watch some pieces, and even though I am happy to be Latin and i love many things in my culture, I must sadly say I feel embarrassed about the quality of these productions, the themes they develop, the values they portray馃槚馃槓馃槚
And I am not saying Korean dramas are pure moral, or dignity or holiness, there is also lying, corruption and other bad stuffs in kdramas, but the amount of non-values, lies and vanity in Latino Telenovelas is just too much huge for me to bear now that I am an adult who knows right from wrong馃槖.

Amazingly, African girls from my university when I was in the master told me they loved these "Telenovelas", because of the romance and lots of skinship, and they thought we are like that in our culture, and I had to laugh.
Anyway... It is simply interesting what you can find in terms of TV.
Me, I will never ever watch a Spanish or English novela in my life, not even if there is no more kdramas at all. Kdramas have ruined everything else for me, so that's it... 馃檭

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Sorry but I'm not part of the Spanish community haha. I can't even greet someone in Spanish.

I'm actually from a French island :) Betty La Fea was really funny ! Gran Hotel had a really funny male lead. One of my favorite lead along with Angel from El Diablo.

I've also talked to African girls and they had the same opinion about romance in telenovelas. Well, they have a TV channel only dedicated to them.

Since I had access to the Internet, I never watched a telenovela again. Just lurked a bit when my mom or grandma are glued to the tv. I recently watched a few glipsed of La Madonne I think ? But I agree with you, Kdramas also ruined my life.

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Hi! Xica da Silva is one of my favorites "telenovelas". Coraz贸n Salvaje with Eduardo Palomo too.

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Telenovelas were huge in our country before Asian shows took over in the early 2000. I鈥檝e seen 2 of the shows you mentioned and they鈥檙e among my favorites. Tres Marias too, but Rosalinda is really a favorite of mine. Didn鈥檛 watch any Thalia shows after watching that drama.

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I didn't watch Tres Marias but I watched other Thalia's telenovelas like Marimar and Mar铆a la del barrio (even its remake around 2006).

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do you have any website rec for watching meteor garden in good quality?

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Saeguk politics bore me, actually most politics do. Then Nirvana in Fire came and show how it should be done. Politics can be so intriguing when done right.

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I wish Secret Door could be done like NiF. It was a waste of so many good actors.
I enjoyed the first two season of House of Cards US, as well as the original UK version. But I'm not familiar with both US and UK political system so it was like doing homework while watching them. I need to go back and forth reading Wikipedia or watching crash course on YouTube to understand it.
Nirvana in Fire is the best political drama imo even if I'm not familiar with Chinese history.

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"Secret Door" could've been another "Conspiracy in the Court" but based on the actual history.
They had veterans actors who could do sageuks in their sleep.
What a waste :(.

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I've been a Hu Ge fan since his Chinese Paladin days which I mostly watch for the pretty but "Nirvana in Fire" is one of his most memorable dramas to me.
He has grown so much as an actor and I've grown to respect him more for his acting.

I usually skip around to my favorite episodes when I go back and rewatch old favorites but with "Nirvana in Fire" I couldn't skip an episode. That's how much I love this show.

I'm a historical drama/film junkie but the lack of sageuks and period dramas keeps me rewatching old shows and reading the translated novels for "The 3 Kingdoms" and "Nirvana in Fire." It's quite interesting to see the difference between the novel and the drama. Both shows were adapted well imo.

I figured I'd spend my summer reading more historical novels while waiting for BBC's "The Last Kingdom" Season 3.
If Bernard Cornwell's books weren't so expensive I'd read "The Saxon Stories" too.

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NiF was the first time I watched Hu Ge, he's really iconic as Mei Changsu. I could see he's still a very gorgeous young man but he could somehow transformed into a physically weak, but calculating and genious behind-the-scene politician.
Have you watched the latest adaptation of The Three Kingdom. It was on Viki and I'm curious to watch it but the comment doesn't look good.
The Last Kingdom sounds really good. I'm gonna watch it next month when I subscribe Netflix for Mr. Sunshine. Thanks for mentioning it.

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I did but sadly I couldn't take it seriously as the story progressed.
I ended up watching John Woo's "Red Cliff." So epic and makes more sense.

It's hard to beat the original 3 Kingdoms. The history is fascinating and familiar so they'll keep making dramas and films based on that era.

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@kiara I've been looking for the translation of Nirvana in Fire everywhere! Did you find it in a book edition or online? It's one of those books I'd like to own in a beautiful edition, so that I can stroke lovingly when I'm not reading it. (Yes, I'm weird about books).

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Sadly it's not a book edition :(.

Haha I'd do the same! It'd be right next to my "Lord of the Rings" collection :).

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That was exactly where I was thinking of placing it in my library! Right next to my Tolkien collection hehe. Shame... There should totally be a book edition. Do you have a link to the website by any chance?

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Here is the Lang Ya Scribes translation :).
https://langyascribe.wordpress.com/

I want a Chi Yan army t-shirt too :).

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YESSS!! Thank you @kiara! *water buffalo hug*

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and smell it!
(right? I'm not the only one...right?)

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Definitely not. Book smell is the BEST.

New book smell, old book smell, I鈥檓 not picky. 馃挅馃摎

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Smelling books is something I'm guilty of. More than smelling babies' heads.

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Good grief no. Book smell is heaven.

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@wishfultoki Books have the added bonus of not needing to be fed and changed. They are also quiet.

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For affordable The Saxon Stories books, check out https://www.thriftbooks.com/series/the-warrior-chroniclessaxon-stories/37433/. (And shipping is free in the US on orders of $10 or more.)

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Thank you @risaa! If I love it I would want the series in hardcovers.

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I like all the Last Kingdom books. Thought the 2nd series of TV was disappointing.

For REALLY affordable books, check out your local library.... if they have e-books and you have a Kindle you can get them FREE without even getting up out of your chair.

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Lets hope season 3 will be better than the last one.

Thank you! I'll check out the library.

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And worldcat.org is a great tool to use when you want to find out which is the closest library that carries what you're looking for.

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I usually dislike historicals and hardly watch any korean sageuk except for Seven Day Queen. However, I have found C historicals to be more tolerable and from all the praise NIF is getting from the past 2 years maybe it seems like I should watch it soon.

Ironically, my favorite drama is a 139 episoder Turkish historical
1. Muhtesem Yuzyil: I love everything from the acting to the story but yes the main writer died mid show so till half of season 3 its a great watch but not much after that. Still amazing.
2. Misaeng: I have found the show to be applicable to anybody. It relates with almost everybody.
3. Fatmagul- Again a turkish show 80 epsidoes long but all worth it.
4. Maybe prison playbook/My ajhussi/JBL come in this range.

I have over all never been all that interested in US/UK seasons. They bore me but I like how dramas keep their pace till the end.

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I watched season 1 and 2 of "Dirili艧: Ertu臒rul." I would love to finish it but no one is subbing the rest :(.

I'm halfway through season 1 of "Muhtesem Yuzyil." I like it a lot.

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Subs are a huge problem for Turkish shows, the producers even take down recaps if they find them somewhere. It's weird but that's how they have kept their industry going because countries buy the rights then and air it dubbed.

I have seen an episode of Dirilis, couldn't find the rest. Glad that you are liking MY, it is amazing. I thought you may not enjoy it as much as a few things are not historically accurate but i am glad you do. Where are you watching it btw?

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They were both on Netflix with English titles.

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There are some Facebook groups which upload these shows and movies. Check there.

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Good to hear that. Will look for them on Netflix or Facebook.

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Fatmagulun Sucu Ne? is my favorite Turkish drama! Engin Aky眉rek is love. I loved Ask ve Ceza & Magnificent Century (S1 only) too.

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Yes. Even though it was more consistently good than Magnificent Century aka Muhtesem Yuzyil, I like MY a little more. More like how DB rates-what it deserves vs how much we enjoyed. Beren is a favorite too, she is such a good actress. Both of these shows had well done acting. I wonder why you didn't like the rest of Magnificent Century? Ask ve Ceza, I haven't seen that yet. Hope to find that somewhere with subs. Nowadays every other popular Turkish Drama is a remake of a Korean one, I hope they make more original stories because they are good at it.

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How would you characterize the differences between Turkish dramas (like Magnificent Century) and k-dramas? Do you have a recommendation for a starter drama (with subs)? I have enough dramas on my plate, but at some point I'd like to watch a Turkish drama to learn more about Turkish culture.

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It鈥檚 not that I didn鈥檛 like the rest of MY, what I meant above was I only watched S1 and I loved it. And although FGSN is my favorite I think MY is a better drama FGSN. It鈥檚 just that FGSN gave me a memorable experience while watching the show. I first saw Beren Saat in Ask Memnou/Forbidden Love but I disliked her character in that drama. She is indeed a really good actress. I loved her portrayal of Fatmagul. Ask ve Ceza is a romance/revenge drama, no English subs available though. I watched it subbed in Arabic.But I stopped watching Turkish shows two years ago.

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@risaa Turkish dramas usually have a setup that is familiar to that of Kdramas however, they are longer. So when one conflict ends, they might start another one with the main premise or issue essentially being the same. As above mentioned Turkish shows are available on Netflix or some Facebook groups but I don't personally know that because I have watched them dubbed. They are actually well done, well acted shows with good scripts. I would recommend the shows I mentioned above as they are my favorite from the lot, provided you can watch 80 plus episodes with each episode being about 1+hour long. But trust me they'll keep you engaged throughout.

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Thanks for replying, @wapzy. You're enticing me down a whole new rabbit hole!

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NIF is excellent, especially season 1 is worth watching, you can skip Season 2.
Among Korean historicals, I liked Princess Man, Deep Rooted Tree, Three Musketeers and Six Flying Dragons. Most of the Chinese historicals are tragic, so I get a bit choosy depending on the story/actors/characters.
Among Turkish, I liked Baris Arduc and and Elcin Sangu in Kiralik Ask. Turkish shows are too long, usually 30-60 episodes which 120 min episodes, so you need spare time to watch them.

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You are right, Turkish shows are too long. That is why I discontinued watching them too. However, they are actually good, if they make them the right length, they can get to kdramas level, which I think is relatively higher in international reach.
I feel like the historicals you mentioned, I could see them too. I tried Three Musketeers, liked it however, found about LJW scandal midway so just dropped it and didn't feel like continuing it. Seven Day Queen is amazing though, if you haven't tried, you should see it once.

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How did I forget SDQ?! I marathoned it after the show finished airing. That reminds me Queen In hyun's Man was good too, though not in the same level as the other shows I mentioned earlier. I just started watching Magnificent Century reading about it in your comments above. Agree with you, I wish Turkish shows were shorter both in terms of no. of episodes and length of the episode.

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Band of Brothers is a fave of mine (watched it at least 6 times).
I loved Picara back then (1990, really? Time flies), but now it brings only sad memories, considering the early deaths of the leads Levy and Palomo (his interpretation of Juan del Diablo in Coraz贸n Salvaje is the best one to date).

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Here La Picara Sonadora was aired in the second half of 1993, I read it was released in 1990 in Mexico. you watched Corazon Salvaje?? It's my second favorite telenovela after La Picara Sonadora.
Is there any way for me to watch La Picara Sonadora with sub? I miss old telenovela 馃槃

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La Picara So帽adora with subs ... hmm? That would be a feat to find. I've watched it on Galavisi贸n without subs (way to learn a language) after Coraz贸n aired (1993/94).
You'll be really lucky to find it complete if un-subbed.
The 1993 version of Coraz贸n Salvaje was a fairly popular worldwide, and even that one is impossible to find uncut and with decent resolution (the DVD version is somewhat shorter).

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Most of my memorable dramas belong to TVB and The Legend of Condor Heroes (1983) was one of them. At the Threshold of an Era, Healing Hands and Burning Flames to name a few.

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The most popular one was The Return of Condor Heroes, because of the romance... I prefer Guo Jing than Yu Gou. I also love Huang rong, I love cross dressing and gender Bender tropes because of her.

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I have soo many as I grew up watching Chinese dramas and Korean dramas that is memorable to me. Therefore, I am just going to name that keeps popping in my head. Legend of Condor Heroes, Girl with white hair(I know there is a couple of it. I know there is one that I like but I can not name it right now.), Gloria Korean drama, Warrior Bak Dong Soo, etc...

I hope Meteor Garden 2018 is better than Summer Desire 2018.

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Were you part of the viki's Condor team back then @trina?

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I watched the older version. Not the one in Viki.

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"yo soy...la p铆cara so帽adora!" XD XD XD
OMG, can't believe you brought that up...I was like 5 or 6 when I watched it, but I still remember the song and the plot. I was super in love with eduardo palomo!

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Do you remember Alfredo's uncle who fell in love with Lupita's bestfriend? I was more in love with him than Carlos Perez/Alfredo Rotschild XD

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Not sure if anyone can help, but I remember watching Brazilian dramas when I was young. I watched them dubbed in Chinese, so I don鈥檛 remember the titles. Little Missy sounds familiar. One show had a girl who was forced to wear a veil before marriage and a man went through all sorts of hoops just to unveil her and get her into bed. However, when they were making out, he thought of an older sophisticated lady, who could be a baroness or not. He realized he was in love with the older woman.
Does it sound familiar to anyone?

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Is it this telenovela?
https://youtu.be/trL5qgQeM30
I'm familiar with the plot but don't remember which one it was, I don't think it's Little Missy.

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One of my most memorable tv shows was one that I watched with my mum when I was a kid called Sons and Daughters about - if I remember correctly - a couple who fall in love only (shock horror twist) they are actually twins separated at birth.

It was one of those never-ending soaps.

I also still remember my father walking into the room and immediately out again in disgust because we were watching 'that garbage' but my mum and I were both so addicted to it.

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LOL, I don't understand why in the 80s and 90s there were so many crazy plot dramas, and sometimes in the middle of it, they change the actor who play the same character.
TV has developed a lot from that era, thank God.

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REALLY enjoying WWWSK.

Looking forward to Let's Eat 3.

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Hi Everyone! ...... I hope you are all doing well today!

To the Beanies watching the World Cup ..... did your favorite team make it to the next round? I hope so!

This week:

Greasy Melo - I'm half-way through and I just continue to really like these characters! ..... I do hope our favorite gangster gets some sort of happiness in his life.

Lawless Lawyer - Was able to get one episode in this week, so I'm up to ep 6. At this rate, who knows when I'll get caught up!

Are You Human Too? - Oh, grandpa, what will you do next?! ..... Ye-na dear, he's just not that into you!!

What's Wrong With Secretary Kim? - Ok, so as much fun as this is to watch, the older brother is seriously giving off a creepy vibe. Things are just too weird when he's around. ..... Totally enjoying this though and all the laugh out loud moments!

Handsome Guy and Jung-eum (The Undateables) - Suddenly beginning to get a little bored with this one to the point that I'm on the fence about it ..... and I'm only up to episode 7. I don't know what it is. I'm willing to give it a bit more a chance before I make any decision regarding whether to continue with it or not.

That's all for now. ...... Take care everyone and have a great Friday!

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Watching Beautiful Mind and Are You Human Too one after the after, has been really very interesting.

Who says that watching dramas doesn't raise deep and meaningful questions about what it really means to be human?

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Happy Friday beanies!!! Enjoy your weekend.
I have a question for you all Usually in general many of my friends who like korean dramas are females only some of my make friends are into K drama that when I ask them to watch a certain dramas.
My question- Is females more fascinated towards K dramas than males? What are your thoughts about this?
Do you know or aware of any male who likes dramas more than you?
How many male fans are there in DB land?馃槉

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I read somewhere that kdrama audiences (in Korea) are majority female. If audiences were mostly male, there wouldn't be so many shirtless fanservice scenes. Perhaps the men are out drinking with coworkers instead.
Attendees at the Dramabeans party last year were mostly female. And there's all the fangirling over boy bands. So I'd guess that Beanies are at least 70% female.

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Do you have to be female to be a big fan of boy bands?

Also, this was a long, long, time ago in DB's history, but they did once do a survey and Beanies were indeed mostly women.

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I鈥檓 a girl and I fangirl over girl groups more than guy groups 馃憖

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I'm not into KPOP much I do fangirl over actresses too. 馃槏

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Am I the only female who rolls her eyes at gratuitous shirtless scenes? LOL I don't need that kind of fan service.

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Nope, you are not alone. But I am the "give me fellows in knitwear/suits" kind of person, so that might have something to do with my indifference.

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I鈥檓 the same way, Bams! Although some guys look best in just a plain T-shirt~

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This is so me. I, personally, don鈥檛 enjoy seeing anyone I know nude or close to being nude especially when I like the actor. If I鈥檓 watching a drama with friends and a shirtless scene comes on, I make a joke cause, 鈥榚hnn鈥 I鈥檓 also the jester amongst my group of friends. Otherwise, it鈥檚 either I鈥檓 indifferent or irritated.

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And oh, I鈥檓 a 鈥榞uy in a suit鈥 kinda girl.

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Abs/schambs! Dress shirts! Put a guy in a dress shirt and he is just x100 times hotter! 馃槏

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I roll my eye and especially when it comes randomly.
I'll rather prefer fan girling over chivalrous man. 馃槏

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honestly the only boyband I'm a fan of is Day6 cause they're pretty much cringe-free. no hip-thrusts, no open shirts, just lovely guys doing stuff.
but on the other hand I lose my shit when girl groups do anything mildly sexual so I'm a queen of double standards I guess

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In my circle of friends, kdrama lovers are usually females, but my male friends do love kshows (RM, or those witty banter talk shows).

My female friends usually more detailed in liking certain actor/actress. They keep up-to-date with the upcoming works of their bias and sometimes will remember the small details like who dating who and the birthday, even the blood type 馃槀
The male friends sometimes do watch kdrama, particularly romcom, and they are not a fan of melodrama, perhaps they are in fear of shedding tears while watching it. But I know they secretly are glued to tv when watching those makjang family kdramas (like my brother, smh).

As for me, kdrama feels more pure as opposed to western drama. Character in wdrama tends to change lover/ love interest in every season, and sometimes glorify affair/ immoral acts, and I've had enough of all that kind of stuff in real life, so kdrama is like my safe space, my getaway drug, ideal world of romance. 馃槢

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My best friend who is a male also watches those makjang dramas 馃榿 but he's more into mystery and thriller.
My girl friends like your friends remember tiny details too but what makes me happy is my best friend remembers those things too. 馃榿

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Until recently I was trying to get my boyfriend into watching dramas with me. The thing is he got a job in Seoul about two and a half years ago and I started to watch dramas because I wanted to know more about Korea. Now I watch dramas because I enjoy the emotional connection and that's what my boyfriend doesn't need (or at least not as much as I do). Even though most of the dramas aren't always logical, I will watch and enjoy them as long as I feel emotional connected. However, my boyfriend would watch 10 minutes and ask/say things like: 'This doesn't make any sense!', 'Why is this happening now, it has nothing to do with the story?' 'Why are they crying again?' ...
He can't enjoy something, if it doesn't make sense to him and I know a lot of other men who think the same. So I think that's one of the reasons why dramas have more female than male fans. Now I don't even try to watch a drama with my boyfriend (in the few weeks we see each other every year), because I enjoy it a lot more by watching alone.

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Then there are those of us who enjoy making fun of the nonsense.

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I find more pleasure in criticizing these idiotic shows and these heavy makeup so called actors.

You can easily gauge the majority by paying attention to the advertisements.
Audience = potential customers.
And the way romance is forced feed in kdramas gives pretty good indication what those potential customers are.

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LOL!!!! Swunnie, fun.... Even though he is in South Korea!!!
I wish I would be there!!!

But yeah, just let him be. Whenever you are together, you just will do whatever else that makes sense for the two of you.

I think women have also more fantasy and imagination and that makes it easier to relate to fiction in a better way... (although this may be backwards, because men watch movies and they are ok with it 馃槼馃檮馃馃槼).... whatever! Dramas are more like for women, I don't know why but it is like that!!!! 馃槀馃槀馃槀馃槀馃槀

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I'm a guy. I'm a beanie. :)

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Three cheers for all of our guy beanies!

The vast majority of DB visitors are female, but the vast majority are also silent lurkers (male and female)-- I hope more males will become active beanies in the future.

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@tacourtn I'm so happy You're here in the beanie land and I absolutely love your choice of dramas.
Special claps for you. 馃槏

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I can't say they're bigger fans than me, but my dad, grandpa, and close friend several years my senior all like dramas. My grandpa likes the family ones, and my dad and friend are both more into the "interesting concept" ones, but they all really like character-based, slice-of-life stuff.

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My dad likes kdramas as well. Thanks to the magic of Netflix getting all of us addicted to televisions shows from around the globe.

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Hehehe, nice! What genres does he go for?

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My dad looooved sageuks but he wouldn鈥檛 like the fusion ones coming out now. I think OCN is probably what the younger males like these days.

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I do agree that OCN dramas are usually like by younger males these days.

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Hi @mimu1234 Mimu. I was away for the weekend and I am getting caught up and came across your interesting post.
Here's another guy checking in, ahjussi to boot. Like a lot of things I came late to kdramas probably early 2016.
Crime/mystery/police are my main genres but not exclusively.
HEALER was my first kdrama and got me hooked. My next 6 dramas were all crime. I am a big fan of OCN dramas and right now love LIFE ON MARS. I have ventured a bit into Saeguk and I guess you would call romantic drama. I don't think anything I have watched would be considered pure rom/com.
I personally don't know anyone who watches kdramas. When the subject comes up I get a sort of blank look.
Thank you DramaBeans and all you beanies for being here.

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*Mushu voice* I LIIIIVE

Pfew, I forgot how intense school used to be until I was no longer able to keep up with the open threads :o I missed you all, so I had to comment something today ;)
I vaguely remember rejoicing about finally finishing Hwayugi and then mini thesis and exams took over for a while. In a couple of weeks I will know whether I managed to obtain my second degree or not. In the meantime I started watching Secretary Kim, because Beanies. I enjoy how easy it is to watch for someone who cannot multitask or focus on one thing for even 5 minutes, not even Park Seo-Joon's face... oh wait I did.

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Oh Great Stone Dragon, have you awaken?

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Erm...Yea, I just woke up! Erm... I am the Great Stone Dragon! Good Morning! Now I will go forth and fetch Mulan! Did I mention that I was the Great Stone Dragon?

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*I, cricket, grabs the bags*

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@kiara That is AWESOME.

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Who鈥檚 excited for the live action Mulan??? Me, that鈥檚 who! I may be a Disney-phile too.

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I'm educating myself on the wonders of Studio Ghibli, but call me a Disney-phile too. I can recite by memory the whole of Mulan. It's a sort of family game to throw a random quote and someone has to continue the dialogue. "Now, pour the tea..."

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I鈥檓 not that talented鈥擨 can barely remember what happened to me yesterday!

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We re-watched our favourite Disney films hundreds of times. Maybe that's why. So far it hasn't been a very useful talent, but it's fun.

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I admit I cheated *coughyoutubecough* but there is no way I am leaving a Disney quote unanswered!
Did I mention that you are one of my favourite Beanies now?

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I love the Chinese cast!
Jet Li, Gong Li and Donnie Yen who just joined the cast as Mulan's mentor... yasss!

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I know!!!! I鈥檓 so excited!!!!

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My PC is not working properly. The apps on it are not running and windows is flashing an error message. Thankfully Chrome is working. My dad has given up on taking the pc to be fixed. Loved What's Wrong With Secretary Kim is absolutely brilliant and nails comedy like anything. Secretary Yang is soo adorable . Also which one should I buy wireless headphones or ones with wires?

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Do you clean your computer regularly? If nothing helps, I suggest installing ubuntu... a couple of our old computers managed to work again after that OS change...

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Yes before this problem occurred I had done a thorough scan of my computer

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@Mani-chan
I'm told that wireless headphones are more likely to affect the brain ie the receptors of signals are right next to or on your scalp. Possibly more radiation? Something about more brain tumours? But I haven't researched it to know for sure.

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They're not very compatible with things. Specially MP3 players. You need a separate Bluetooth extension to use them

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What error messages?
How old is it?
From the "given up on taking it to be fixed", I guess it has been taken in at least once (??). If so, give up. Otherwise....
For desktops, one easy thing is to unplug it, open case, touch the power supply (to ground yourself), then push on all the connectors to make sure they are firmly seated.
One common cause of errors is malware infections. Try free thorough scanners like Malwarebytes, Trend Micro Housecall, or (for Windows 10) the Windows Defender Offline Scan.

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Something like error 0x00005

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Specific error codes can be googled. Try it on your exact error. Meanwhile, I find various tips on fixing 0x00005 and 0xc0000005. They seem to be software issues, not defective hardware. Suggested fixes include
- use system restore to go back to before the problem happened
- uninstall recent updates
- install all available Windows updates (ok, a bit of contradiction there)
- run Disk Cleanup to remove junk and free disk space
- virus scans
- nuke everything and reinstall Windows (drastic, but most likely to work)

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Sorry to hear your PC is not working properly. Computer issues are never fun.

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Big Bang Andromeda Supernova Sonic.

If I was Secretary Kim I'd have fallen in love right then.

I also somehow yesterday fell down a Leh Ratree rabbit hole. First Lakorn. I was not expecting it to be so cracky. I'm not sure how I feel about it but can't stop watching. Though did ff through some of the later eps.

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yessss on the dog name. Who could picture him loving and being loved back by a dog? My heart hurt.

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I can't help but picture this serious little boy in his sweaters with his caramels and golden retriever. So sure he has given his friend the best name ever.

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Being an Eeyore myself, I pictured him with the dog as his closest friend and how destroyed he would have been when the dog died 馃槶

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When she asked if it could be shorten to Big Bang and he seriously said NO 馃槀

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And with perfect delivery.

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Leh Ratree is one of my favs....Lakorn's can be super addicting!
If you want to check out some more good lakorn's, I recommend Defendent of Love, Game Rai Game Rak, Majurat See Nam Pueng, Botai Gleep Sudtai and most recently the high budget Crown Princess

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