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What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: Episode 2

It’s so much fun watching Young-joon flail around, trying everything he can think of to convince Mi-so not to quit her job. He’s so completely oblivious to what makes other people tick that I almost hope he doesn’t figure it out any time soon, because watching him wander around confused that Mi-so isn’t groveling at his feet in gratitude is just so entertaining. Of course, Mi-so isn’t so amused, because all she wants is a normal life with a normal husband — a spoiled, entitled chaebol doesn’t enter into her future plans for her life.

 
EPISODE 2 RECAP

Young-joon reports to his friend Yoo-shik that he proposed to Mi-so. He says she got very quiet, put her face near his neck and sniffed him, then asked if he’d been drinking, HA. Yoo-shik busts up laughing, but his guffaws turn to whimpers at the look on Young-joon’s face.

Young-joon naturally assumes that Mi-so was just too dumbfounded to accept, and that she wants a fancier proposal. Yoo-shik puts forth the idea that Mi-so simply doesn’t want to marry Young-joon, and this time Young-joon laughs at the absurd suggestion, because who wouldn’t want to marry him?

Mi-so sits at home wondering about Young-joon’s proposal, and she actually seems to consider it for an instant before coming to her senses. Her doorbell rings again, and this time it’s Ji-ran, the woman that Young-joon’s been sort-of dating.

She slams into Mi-so’s apartment demanding to know why Young-joon would visit her so late at night. Mi-so says it’s not what she thinks, and Ji-ran whines, wondering why he hasn’t slept with her yet. Mi-so guesses correctly that Ji-ran assumes he’s sleeping with someone else, and she tells Ji-ran that he’s not sleeping with anyone.

Ji-ran snaps at Mi-so, asking how she knows. With perfect politeness, Mi-so informs the brat that she’s her unni by six years, demanding a little respect. She asks Ji-ran if she’s ever been alone with Young-joon and if he’s ever touched her, and when Ji-ran’s stammers indicate that both answers are no, Mi-so tells her exactly how this works.

She says that Young-joon goes to social parties on Tuesdays and Thursdays after work, to maintain his professional contacts. She informs Ji-ran that she’s Young-joon’s Tuesday girl, and that his former Thursday girl cornered Mi-so with the exact same complaints, which got her the ax. She says that in nine years, Young-joon has never slept with a woman, or even dated one.

She clarifies that he’s not dating Mi-so either, nor is he gay. He’s just incapable of dating anyone because he’s so perfect that no woman can please him. She calls Young-joon the “narcissist of the century, the living embodiment of self-love.”

She thinks back to the night she first met him, when he’d asked if she knew who he was, posing and grinning like he expected her to fall all over herself. His whole demeanor had screamed “chairman’s son,” but Ji-ran moans that that’s his charm. Mi-so argues that she should meet a man who loves her and cares for her.

Young-joon just can’t wrap his head around Yoo-shik’s conviction that Mi-so rejected him. Yoo-shik says that Young-joon can find another secretary as good as Mi-so, but Young-joon rejects that idea, insisting that he needs Mi-so herself.

Yoo-shik asks if Young-joon likes Mi-so romantically, as a man likes a woman, and Young-joon considers. He jumps up and declares that she’s someone he needs, comparing her to a tailor-made suit, and escapes before Yoo-shik can ask him any more questions.

On her way out, Ji-ran asks Mi-so if she’s ever found a man like she describes, one who’s considerate and caring. The question sobers Mi-so, and she goes inside to read the notebook she wrote as a child, dedicated to her oppa.

Driving home, Young-joon thinks about Mi-so’s rejection of his proposal. She’d said she wants to marry a normal man and have a normal family, and he’d called her selfish after nine years of working together. He had nearly gotten emotional asking what he’s supposed to do without her, but he’d backed down and simply said it would be very inconvenient.

In the morning, Mi-so runs into Ji-ah, her replacement, who’s nervous about her first day on the job. She takes Ji-ah upstairs and introduces her around, and the others joke that Ji-ah is also a “Secretary Kim.” The men fawn over the pretty young woman, while Se-ra, who considers herself the office beauty, makes annoyed faces and complains about having to train a new person.

Young-joon stands in his office, glaring at the two Secretary Kims as Mi-so begins Ji-ah’s training. He slumps at his desk, wondering if Mi-so is really rejecting him, and he blames Mi-so for his pain when he burns his tongue on his hot tea.

Mi-so shows Ji-ah the mountain of information she’s expected to learn, like Young-joon’s schedule, records of business trips, and the likes and dislikes of the executives who visit his office. She particularly mentions that he strictly forbids the use of cable ties.

Flipping through documents, Ji-ah finds a photo of Young-joon and Mi-so on their first U.S. business trip nine years ago when Mi-so first started the job as his secretary. She says that she made a lot of mistakes, so she worked hard not to be a bother to Young-joon. She sends Ji-ah on an errand and takes a moment to look at the old photo.

She recalls that Young-joon had yelled at her that day, berating her for ruining an important dinner by violating the dress code. He’d reminded her that she’d promised to work hard at the job despite her lack of education and credentials when he hired her.

She’d yelled back that she barely sleeps, she’s studying English, and she misses her family while she’s in America. Bursting into tears, she’d sobbed that she’s trying her best even though he constantly scolds her. Young-joon had looked chastened, then surprised when she’d asked if he’d never made a mistake. He’d bellowed that he’s perfect, and that if she doesn’t like being scolded, to do her job perfectly.

She had called him a narcissist, and he’d fired back that she has to put up with it, but Mi-so had said she’d quit when they got back to Korea. She’d stormed off to her hotel room, and immediately regretted her threat. She’d cried even harder thinking about her family’s debt and her sisters’ tuition.

But she’d gotten a text from Young-joon that said: “You have guts, to talk back to me. Come to work by 5 a.m. tomorrow.” Mi-so cried even harder, so thankful that she’d even bowed to her phone, awww. She stayed up all night practicing tying a tie, determined to do at least this one thing right.

Mi-so is startled out of her memory by Young-joon, who stands over her desk, scowling. After an extremely awkward exchange about nothing, Mi-so asks if she can leave work early today since Young-joon’s dinner meeting was canceled.

Desperate to keep her from leaving, Young-joon suggests several projects she should be working on, but she’s already handled them all. He falls back on criticizing her for talking back, and when she says she’s just answering his questions, he pouts, “I don’t like it.” Hee, so childish.

He forces Yoo-shik to eat lunch with him, calling it his work duty, and Yoo-shik shoots eye-lasers at him. Young-joon asks what Yoo-shik thinks about Mi-so, who seems serious about quitting, and what he should do about it. Yoo-shik cheekily offers to take care of it if Young-joon begs, but Young-joon’s grip on his steak knife makes him think twice about his joke.

He notes that the look in Young-joon’s eye is the same as he had during a big merger five years ago, so he advises Young-joon to approach Mi-so like he would a merger.

He says that Young-joon should put forth effort and make her happy in order to convince her, but yesterday he just came straight at her without buttering her up first. He says that Young-joon has to follow the proper procedure, step by step, which means he has to date Mi-so first. Young-joon looks unhappy about that, but determined.

Downstairs, Se-ra acts like Ji-ah’s struggle to use the fancy coffeemaker is an unforgivable offense. She impatiently shows Ji-ah how it works, then basks in Ji-ah’s blatant adoration. But when Mi-so calls Ji-ah back upstairs and leaves Se-ra to make the coffee, she’s right back to hating her.

Mi-so announces a department dinner tonight to welcome Ji-ah, since Young-joon’s meeting was canceled. Everyone gets excited thinking about their favorite restaurant, but their boisterous celebration is cut short by Young-joon’s sour face in the hall.

At dinner that evening, the whole coffeemaker scenario between Se-ra and Ji-ah plays out again, only this time over what Se-ra sees as Ji-ah’s incompetence at cutting the meat. Se-ra gets so into her preening that she doesn’t notice when Ji-ah gets a call, leaving Se-ra to serve everyone alone. She lurks in the hallway to confront Ji-ah, accusing Ji-ah of manipulating her into doing all the work and warning that she’s watching her.

Back at the table, one of the guys stands to flag down a server, knocking his drink into Se-ra’s lap. When Mi-so rips her stocking while cleaning up, everyone wonders if the accident is a sign of something ominous. Sure enough, in walks Young-joon, with an entrance worthy of a movie villain.

The entire team bolts to their feet when they see him, looking terrified. He says he heard there was a team dinner and didn’t want to miss it, so they scurry to find him a place to sit, then they all just stare at each other awkwardly.

Young-joon offers to pour each team member a drink for their hard work, but when he asks for some fifty-five year old whiskey and the ajumma barks that all they have is soju, he blinks like he’s never heard of such a thing. He covers his embarrassment by talking shop, but Mi-so saves everyone by requesting that they not talk about work.

Ji-ah suggests a drinking game, and after some confusion they agree to play the compliment game. Ji-ah compliments Mi-so on her teaching style, and Young-joon sneers, “Ah, Secretary Kim is handing her work over to you in a friendly way” like it’s an accusation, then slams a drink.

Another team member compliments Young-joon for his ability to speak five languages, setting off an avalanche of compliments about Young-joon’s looks and fortune. Only Mi-so doesn’t compliment him, so he cuts off the applause to ask what she’d like to praise. She compliments herself for hanging in there so long and being ready to put down the burden now, hee.

Mi-so tells Young-joon that he looks tired and suggests he go home and rest. She’s trying to get rid of him so they can resume their fun, but Ji-ah chirps that they should go to a noraebang and Young-joon invites himself along. But when the place they end up turns out to be pretty seedy, he looks a little ill.

The team sits in a room silently, everyone feeling too tense to start the singing. Young-joon says that he doesn’t want to order anyone around at their get-together, but this doesn’t seem right. He moves the party to a swanky place in Cheongdam-dong, and he looks a lot happier to be watching his team singing karaoke in clean surroundings.

He gets satisfaction out of watching Mi-so having a ball, and he asks if she’s enjoying herself because he’s there. She says yes just to placate his ego, but it encourages him to gallantly hand her a bite of fruit. She eats it, finding his attention strange, and it gets weirder when she chokes and he hands her a drink.

But it’s not water — it’s the fifty-five year old whiskey he mentioned earlier, making Mi-so cough. Ji-ah gets up to perform the next song, and Mi-so tries to get Se-ra to slow down on the drinking before she does something she regrets.

Se-ra slurs that she’s never made a drunken mistake, but the very next minute, she grows jealous of the attention Ji-ah is getting and shoves her aside to take over the microphone. She makes a complete fool of herself by yelling that she wants to be Young-joon’s next secretary.

One of the guys yanks on Se-ra’s arm to stop her, but she pulls away hard, ricochets across the room, and lands right in Young-joon’s lap. The entire team freezes in horror until Young-joon gasps to get her off him.

When the fiasco is finally over, Young-joon gets a driver to take himself and Mi-so home. When he drops her off, he asks, “Wasn’t I very sweet today?” He points out that he came to the team dinner and drove her home even though it was a hassle (she frowns at that, ha) and promises that she can have romantic days like this every day from now on.

Mi-so is confused, so Young-joon says proudly, “I’m telling you that I’m going to date you.” Mi-so says kindly that he’s not her type, and he does this weird, hilarious nervous-sniffling thing. She continues that she prefers men who are caring, considerate, and sweet to others.

Young-joon sniffles again, asking how she can say that after everything he did today. Mi-so says that he wasn’t truly being considerate of her because she didn’t ask him to do any of that, and she wishes him luck in finding a wonderful lady soon.

She goes inside, but Young-joon calls her almost immediately, and a peek out the window shows that he’s still standing outside. He sends a text when she doesn’t answer his call, calling her crazy for saying he’s not her type. He spam-texts her, listing his amazing qualities, while at the same time her sister Pil-nam texts to ask Mi-so to send her a heart emoji for a game she plays.

Mi-so gets honest with Young-joon, texting back that he only thinks of himself. Young-joon responds, asking if she’s venting about how much he’s stressed her out for the past nine years, and she replies that working for him is stressful. She calls him egotistical, selfish, and a perfectionist, and even speculates that he may have OCD.

She complains that he constantly calls her so that she has no time for a personal life, and that after nine years, she’s exhausted. Young-joon says that she never objected to the things he asked of her, and that if she’d said no, he wouldn’t have made her do everything. That gives Mi-so pause, so she suggests they forget everything that’s been said and done.

She repeats that she wants a normal relationship with a normal guy, and that even though Young-joon says he wants to marry her, he’s not cut out for romance because he’s only capable of loving himself. A little dejected, he asks if she really thinks that, and she replies that she does, repeating that he’s inconsiderate.

Pil-nam texts Mi-so again for a heart emoji, so Mi-so quickly jumps over to that text thread to send several. She looks out the window again and sees that Young-joon is gone. She gets one last message from him, saying, “There are two people who should never call me inconsiderate. One is my hyung, and the other is you, Kim Mi-so. Remember that.” Hmmm, I wonder what he means by that.

Mi-so starts to respond, which is when she realizes with horror that she accidentally sent seven heart emojis to Young-joon instead of her sister. She wonders dazedly if she should explain that it was a mistake, but decides to ignore it.

That night, Young-joon has a horrific nightmare. In it, a woman in bright red heels walks down a dark street pulling a suitcase, and Young-joon sees flashes of an old, deserted house. The woman in the red shoes walks into the house and calls out to him in an eerie voice, and Young-joon wakes with a start.

He gets a text from someone named Lee Sung-yeon, that says, “You must be sleeping now… even though I’m suffering like this.”

In the morning, Young-joon takes another broody shower (bless him), still shaken by his nightmare and the midnight text. He ties his own tie, which reminds him of the first time Mi-so tied it for him, back on that trip to the U.S. nine years ago. Her offer had taken him by surprise, and he’d seemed to feel every bit of the closeness such an intimate act can create. In the present, he tosses away his tie and goes without, again.

Mi-so obsesses about Young-joon’s last text, wondering what it means that she’s one of two people who can’t call him inconsiderate. She asks Manager Jung if he’s ever met Young-joon’s brother, and he says o, but that he’s heard he lives overseas. He does think it’s strange that he’s not involved in the business despite being the eldest.

Wen Young-joon arrives at work, he goes straight to his office, purposely ignoring Mi-so. She notices his lack of a tie and brings him one, but he tells her to stop doing things like this anymore. He continues, “You were right. I am selfish and egotistical. That’s why I can understand why you want to quit.”

Feeling bad, Mi-so says that’s not what she meant last night. But Young-joon says that he’s realizing that he can’t have everything he wants, so he’ll let her go if she stays one more month to train her replacement. He dismisses Mi-so and turns his back, so she leaves, looking confused and unhappy.

Young-joon begins to put effort into helping train Ji-ah to do Mi-so’s job, leaving Mi-so to feel left out. When Ji-ah isn’t prepared, Young-joon squarely blames Mi-so for her lack of training. He warns her firmly not to disappoint him, and she’s bewildered at his sudden cold treatment.

When she gets a chance, Mi-so tries to clarify what she meant during their text conversation last night, but Young-joon refuses to discuss personal matters at work. He asks to speak to Ji-ah, and Mi-so narrows her eyes to see him smiling and relaxed while talking to the new secretary. She huffs indignantly when he spots her and closes the blinds, wondering how she’s going to put up with this for another month.

Ji-ah asks Young-joon if she should start helping him with personal matters like tying his tie, but he says that’s not necessary. He tells her that her job is to pretend she’s training for Mi-so’s job for the next month — oooo, I knew he wouldn’t give up that easily. Sneaky boy is sneaky.

Mi-so goes to dinner with her friends, and her last single friend passes out invitations to her upcoming wedding. They ask when Mi-so will get married, and one friend asks if she’s interested in a blind date with one of her fiance’s friends, who saw her photo and expressed interest.

All Mi-so can think about is Young-joon, staring out the window with his back to her after agreeing to let her go. She shakes herself back to reality just as her friend says that her potential blind date is a journalist, and Mi-so asks if he could find out about a past incident.

The waitress comes by with a customer survey, and when Mi-so starts to fill it out, all of the questions ask about things she’d like if she had a boyfriend. She thinks that the writing style seems familiar, and PWAHAHA, it turns out that Young-joon wrote the questions and paid the restaurant to have her table answer them.

Yoo-shik locates Mi-so’s questionnaire, and Young-joon snatches it away. Yoo-shik asks if he plans to use her answers to give her what she wants, and Young-joon’s ”Who, me??” is just a bit too forced.

After dinner, Mi-so arrives home, still preoccupied with the way Young-joon dismissed her all day. She cleans her messy apartment with a vengeance, determined to make a fresh start. When she’s finished, she picks up her childhood journal and vows that now that she has more time, she’ll look for her oppa.

She gets a call from Yoo-shik, who asks her to meet him the following evening. When she arrives at the park where he told her he’d be, the place is dark and empty. Suddenly the entire park lights up, and the fountain erupts dramatically, making the whole place look like a fairyland.

As Mi-so gapes at the colorful display, Young-joon approaches and asks if she’s been waiting long.

 
COMMENTS

Well well well, so the boy does know how to be swoony when it counts. Of course, he had to be dragged to it kicking and screaming, and told exactly what to do, but at least he’s trying. I can’t get over how clueless Young-joon is, thinking that one evening of making an obviously painful effort to be nice was enough to change Mi-so’s nine-year opinion of him as selfish and egotistical. It’s just another symptom of his extreme inability to connect with others, that he can’t figure out for himself that if you want a woman to marry you, you have to be the kind of guy she wants to marry.

What’s interesting about Young-joon, and what makes him different from typical arrogant drama chaebols, is that there’s no malice in his attitude, and he’s not purposely mean. He’s not trying to push people away, nor does he seem to find others inferior beings… how could he when he barely thinks of others at all? He just thinks of himself as an uncommonly superior person. So he doesn’t have to change his personality as much as, say, Chi-soo from Flower Boy Ramyun Shop, who believed he was god’s gift to everyone and had to make a conscious, and very painful, personality overhaul in order to win the lady. Young-joon reminds me a lot more of Joo-won from Secret Garden, who was stuck up simply because of his upbringing (and who just assumed that Ra-im had fallen for him because why wouldn’t she), but who wasn’t ever a nasty person to be around.

But regardless of his reasons, it’s great to see Young-joon making an effort to please Mi-so after so many years of it being her job to please him. Even if he’s doing it for selfish purposes (for now), he does seem to get enjoyment out of doing things that make Mi-so happy. What’s important right now is that he’s putting in the effort to do something for her, because the right motivation will come in time. I do believe that Young-joon has romantic feelings for Mi-so, but they’re all mixed up in his dependence on her as his assistant, so I think that he’s going to be completely gobsmacked when he finally realizes that he’s fallen for her. He may be “perfect” in every other way, but when it comes to love, the boy has a lot to learn.

I’m also happy that Mi-so finally took the gloves off and told Young-joon exactly how difficult he is to work for and why, even if she only had the courage to do it in text form. She’s spent years bottling up her true feelings to the point that she even does it in her personal life, and it’s good that she’s recognizing that it’s not a healthy way to be. I do think that Young-joon had a point, that Mi-so had a hand in what her life has become by catering to his every whim and never saying no — that doesn’t mean he wasn’t selfish for expecting so much of her, but if Mi-so never said no or complained, how was he to know she wasn’t happy to do those things? As much as I’m cheering on Young-joon to learn how to act like a caring, considerate man and win Mi-so over, first I want her to get free for a while, let her hair down, and experience life outside of work. I’m sure that will involve the search for her oppa, who seems to either have disappeared, or is hiding from his family.

It’s clear that Young-joon has some secrets as well, likely traumatic ones that contribute to the way he is now. That nightmare he had was pretty disturbing, and I wonder if the woman in red heels has something to do with his general avoidance of women. And where is his hyung and why isn’t he taking over the company, as the eldest? I’m assuming that the mysterious texter, Sung-yeon, is Young-joon’s missing brother, and by his text it seems likely that whatever is keeping him from the company and his family isn’t pleasant. And last, why did Young-joon text to Mi-so that she and Hyung are the two people who can never accuse him of being inconsiderate? Certainly there’s some sort of history there that Mi-so doesn’t recall. While I don’t care for mysterious past connections between leading characters that are manufactured simply to signal that this couple is Meant To Be, I do like a shared past that relates to and influences the present relationship. Here’s hoping that in this story, we’re dealing with the latter, in which case I’m very eager to find out exactly what’s haunting Young-joon so badly.

 
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Yep :D Sneaky boy is sneaky. That’s why I love him <3

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Takeaway from this ep: Young Joon has never been told by someone that he's not their "type". He looked like Mi So just stomped all over his pride. Denial is the first stage they say. Hee Hee

What I really loved however, was that scene were Mi So confronted the girl-friend who showed up at her door. I really thought it was going to be another stereotypical hair-pulling, angry-shouting, eye-rolling scene that happens in most kdramas. But nope Mi So turned it around by pointing about YJ's flaws and the fact that the gf deserved better. They were unnies by the end of it! Like damn- those social skills are acing!

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I loved that scene! Mi So really came out the winner in that. I love that she's not just a good secretary in the office - those skills transfer to life too, like in dealing with the gf and even when she was grilling meat for her unnis. Like she can't turn it off.

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Yes! I think that's the positive side of her work, in that she can effectively deal with complicated real life situations. However, there's also a negative side towards not being able to "turn off" her secretary mode unfortunately- she's lost her identity. She even refers to herself (eg.at the bank) as Secretary Kim. I love how the drama however, is making her regain her life and work through the complexity of her work-life balance at the moment.

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Can somebody explain, that how come everytime the girlfriend touches Mi So. She immediately removed the hands as if she'll contact a disease?

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She’s just being awfully touchy for someone that hardly knows Mi-so. I would react the same way. 😂

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My crush on Mi So increased after that scene. She is so competent in everything, and used communication skills - which kdrama characters tend to be deficient in- to sort out the Tuesday girlfriend situation.

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I also loved it!!! I laughed out loud at how mi so managed the situation.
I love dramas that turn around typical tropes. This drama is not that original, but it is doing a nice job by either playing some same old tropes with charm or even subverting them.

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Yes! In rom-coms it's all about the chemistry and how tropes are handleded because it's usually the same formula. I'm excited to see how the drama exceeds expectations by turning everything on its head.

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Park Min Young is so pretty. She's owning it. PSJ is okay.

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My favourite person in this has to be the best friend... Watching him gives me joy, maybe because he reminds me of my best friends rolled up in one....

I love how one minute he is trying his best to give reasonable advice that might not work, the next trying to help his friend figure out how he really feels then he just gives up in a fit of laughter. Because at least he tried now he can sit back and watch while reluctantly helping...

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I love this actor in these types of roles as the best friend. I didn't like him so much in INAR but he's hilarious here.

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His facial expressions are hilarious. This is a perfect role for him.

I feel like Young-joon deserves some brownie points for having Yoo-shik as a best friend.

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Yes to facial expressions...

It gives live when he laughs at his friends antics and then belatedly realise he is suppose to be empathising with said friend 😂😂😂...

And the "b*tch crazy" looks he gives YJ 🤣🤣🤣

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I'm so curious about their friendship. Did they ever mention how long they've known each other? And who approached whom first? Did YJ just select one of his employees and just declared him his friend?

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Their friendship reminds me of the one from prison playbook with the two correctional officers who met in primary school with the one friend who always followed the rules...

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I liked him since high school king. He did a good job in WFKBJ, although they made him Dating-like rather pathetic. I feel he would have enjoyed his part in IANR, because it was different, but his looks and facial expressions are better used in comedy. So yes, this role is amazing for him, suits him perfectly and maybe is even similar to his personality? 🙄 Dont know, but I could imagine him being like this in real life, an easy going person that doesn't take even himself so seriously. But a good friend and capable at work. I like him very much and I wouldn't mind him to play a main lead in a rather unconventional story.

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With the level if determination of Mr VP, if I am Sect Kim, I will surely wavered.

But the looks in his eyes that was lost everytime he past Sect Kim’s desk knowing that she will not coming and she have moved on, make me sad for YJ actually.

In K-drama land, it’s rarely that second lead having so much power. Like in YJ case, suddenly I wondered if he really wants the power and wants the position while his older brother were allowed to do what he wants and live freely.

And literally Sect Kim and VP YJ have a long established relationship like old married couple. They bickered and bantered like no one problems. And when they worked as team, everything is possible and they are untouchable.

The long overdue tension in their work relationship and personal life was totally a ticking bomb. And all hell breaks loose.

And let’s start the courting and seducing begin.

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Yes! I have to confess. I've been dying to read your recap, @lollypip. This show is so much fun, I am obsessed.

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same lol i've been refreshing since last week!

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Thanks so much for the recap! This episode just solidified my love for the show. I feel like one of the reasons why I’m so invested this early on is because we’re essentially being thrown into the middle of the typical kdrama romcom. Usually there’s at least a few episodes of setup before we get to the petty jealousy and hilarious pining (aka my favorite part), but with this show we’re already there because of our couple’s pre-existing history together. And from the previews, it looks like we will stay there for a while longer - I’m not complaining at all!

This episode really gave Mi-so some time to shine. I’m really loving how warm of a character she is, and how she seems to genuinely care about others and stands up for herself when she needs to. I’m excited for her path towards self-realization to continue!

I continue to be skeptical of the childhood trauma plotline, but I’m willing to forgive a lot in a drama as long as I get my romantic hijinks and chemistry. I’m excited for this one!

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Yes, the pending childhood trauma seems inevitable. I'll hold my breath and hope it's not too soon, not too long and won't spoil the ending either.

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I felt bad for the new secretary, when YJ said she needs to pretend to be training under MS. She really seems to be a hardworking and nice person...unless she turns evil later. If not, can't he actually try to accept her as his new secretary and date MS without the added secretary- boss relationship? Or find her another position in the company?

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Actually I think the new secretary is a bit if a user - how she got Se Ra to do her work already by fawning over her. hah - this is going to backfire on her and I think there is something brewing in her story.

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IIRC, both times she got a call needing her elsewhere. She seemed genuine but I'm not good at reading people. For now, I'll give her the benefit of doubt.

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Se-ra is the one who strikes me as a manipulator, so I was glad she got her comeuppance. Now that I think of it, Se-ra is a female Young-joon wannabe.

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Se-ra is too open about what she wants to be a manipulator. She is just like a child flouncing her shoulders around and pouting her lips like a little child. I think she too will have some growth in this show (at least I hope so as she is really annoying!).

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You're right -- Se-ra is very up front about what she wants, and is insufferable. Let's hope she grows up quickly. I won't be able to withstand 14 more episodes of such gyrations. Hwang Bo-ra is rapidly entering Jung Da-bin Spoiled Brat territory (SHOULD WE KISS FIRST; MY SASSY [JOSEON] GIRL). Please spare me.

That said, I loved her as mudang Bang-wool in ARANG AND THE MAGISTRATE. ;-)

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She was hired rather quickly too! Her interview mainly involved sparring between the OTP.

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I agree, I was suspicious of her from that scene with Se Ra and the coffee - I just don't think someone who is really as innocent as she acts could so skillfully use Se Ra's narcissism to manipulate her not once but twice.

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Actually, I think the whole joke is that the new secretary genuinely does do everything earnestly and innocently, but Sera becomes convinced that she's some kind of mastermind anyway. Consider how in every situation it's Sera's own narcissism that gets her to do all those things. She's pretty much her own worst enemy and it's hilarious.

I really hope the secretary doesn't turn out to truly be a user, because then this whole situation wouldn't be nearly as funny to me. I'm pretty convinced she isn't because she genuinely doesn't understand certain things, like when she didn't kiss-up to Young-hoon in the company dinner scene like everyone else. Instead she complemented Mi-so because she's clearly beginning to see her as a role model and I thought that was pretty cool.

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I agree with everything you said. I'm hoping new secretary is as earnest to do a good job as she seems. The friendly interactions she has had with Mi so is quite cute and refreshing. I'm so done with kdrama always setting up women to backstab other women over everything. It is nice to see some womance in the workplace.

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im torn between this view and seeing the new secretary as a user. the fact that its this particular actress throws me back to Fight My Way (i know thats not how it works, but its hard to shake). interested to see how this develops.

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I know what you mean as I'm having a hard time separating her from the character in FMW. After the latest episode, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe she really is innocent and not as manipulative as I thought.
nah - I still don't trust her for some reason.

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Well said. I actually think that in addition to the comic effect produced by Sera's misunderstanding, there's a deliberate contrast between the way she's treating Jiah (seeing her as competition, assuming the worst of her) and the way Miso earnestly mentors Jiah and tries to help her transition in. The contrast shows that women don't need to be rivals, they can help and support each other.

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I do hope her role here would not turn out like in Fight My Way.
Really hate pretend-to-be-helpless-goody-two-shoes.

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I’ve been waiting for the second ep recap thanks @lollypip. I’m loving the pettiness too much and his slight manipulation in trying to make her not quit. It doesn’t seem that her feelings aren’t as mutual as Young Joon especially when she wavers when he says something touching. I can’t wait to see more groveling done by Young Joon before he can get her attention 😝

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Aaaand just like that, I have emerged from my kdrama slump thanks to Secretary Kim! Love her!!!!! Love seeing Youngjoon report to Yooshik and flail at his failed attempts to keep Miso! He is so full of himself, but he is not a jerk. His actions are misguided for now and I cannot wait to see him grow to love others, which I think he has already, but has yet to fully realize that. I am so onboard this OTP. They have an overflowing mixture of cute, sweet, romantic, and sexy chemistry!

I am not a fan of what seems to be childhood connection or a somewhat shared trauma. I have never liked that trope. I still like the show a lot so I am staying.

It has been over a year since I last truly got excited to see new kdrama episodes. This feels refreshing! Show, please do not disappoint. Thanks for the recap, @lollypip! You rock!

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Yeah. I too find such trope unnecessary. For me, it is an overkill. Having met each other nine years ago and worked closely together is enough for me in setting up their relationship. In fact, I wish to see more flashbacks in those nine years when they worked together. It will give a lot of insight as to how they grew in their working, as well as that simmering romantic, relationship. They've got way too intense chemistry even in that flashback scene for it to be something that started recently. I also wish to see how Miso grew from timid and unsure young secretary to her now confident, uber efficient self.

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I was actually disappointed to find out their was a childhood connection *groans* It's so unnecessary and frankly unbelievable - really, what are the odds? But, if we are going down this route they better do it well.

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Give me a simple story with a lot of heart and told earnestly than a convoluted one. We are not even surprised anymore at the connection when they are revealed. We smelled it miles away that we snort during the reveal of what was meant to be some earth-shattering revelation. Lol Oh well. It is in the kdrama rule book I guess. One can never truly get away. I sure hope this one is handled at least well enough.

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I recently met another person who watches kdramas like me. yeah. Then she said that she didn't like US shows because they are 'so predictable' - really?
Of course, I called out all the trope in these shows TOD, piggyback ride, drunken nights, chaebol son, evil mother etc.
Then again, it's this predictability that I like!

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I love this drama, but am pretty nervous about it getting slowed down by shared childhood trauma angst. Hopefully, no one gets bogged down by misplaced guilt.

My love for this drama reminds me of my love for the early episodes of Suspicious Partner and that last half got really bogged down.

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Don't jinx it, @asianromance.

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as someone else mentioned in episode 1 comments tho, they seem to be hinting that young joon remembers mi so even if she doesn't remember him (especially based off the "you're not allowed to call me inconsiderate" line).

we're also told that young joon doesn't give second chances, but after talking back to him as an inexperienced, unqualified secretary - he gives her a second chance.

i don't know if her being by his side for 9 years after meeting as children is an unbelievable odd or something young joon intentionally made happen.

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It's based on a webtoon and tragic backstories are generally the norm. The webtoon it's based on is popular in korea so viewers are expecting it anyway.

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I hate the childhood-trauma-connection trope. totally unnecessary. but hey... *sigh* we'll make do with it, if they do it well this time around...

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+3 So she is looking for her brother, and he with an older brother was kidnapped. Are we in for some birth secret, or maybe even a fauxcest plotline? I really sincerely hope not. I really just want this to be all petty jealousy bickering fluff and for it to remain angst lite.

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Well, I don't think she's looking for her "brother". She called him "oppa", which does not necessary means he's an older brother, perhaps he's just a childhood friend who is older?

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I would like that much better! I thought it was friend oppa while watching, and then reading lollypip's recap made me second guees its connotation. Hehe now I am hoping the mystery of who oppa is will not be so kdrama obvious!

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@stberry,

This is the fun part of Kdrama. You never can tell exactly what is meant by "oppa" until you get enough context. I had assumed that Oppa was an older schoolmate or neighbor. The fact that Mi-so is interested in a blind date with a reporter because he's got the experience and connections to do some investigating for her immediately caught my ear. Ditto for the express instruction to the new secretary that cable ties are not to be used in Boss's office.

I don't think Oppa's family moved away. I think Oppa may have ended up with his portrait on a milk carton or its Korean equivalent, and that's what the reporter will turn up. Mi-so will get a gander at the photo, and things will get interesting.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2017/09/04/missing-kids-milk-carton-campaign-outcome/627165001/

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in MS's dream (ep3?) her oppa is telling her that he has to go to his home (he lives elsewhere). Also his family name is Lee although she cannot remember his first name. The only Q is which Lee brother - I'm guessing YJ although in old kdrama tradition she might mistakingly think older bro for a while.

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Charlie, it's actually against Dramabeans policy to mention anything that happens in future episodes, thanks.

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For the description of the show, we know there is a second lead. So I am always thinking this childhood connection is with the second lead and not with PSJ... 🙄

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I generally dislike that overused trope as much as anyone, but the only times I truly find it cringe worthy is when it's sprung out of nowhere at the end of the series. If it's established from the start like this, I give the writers the benefit of the doubt.
And in this case, I believe it could be more believable than usual that they found each other again - remember, she had no qualifications for the job and was no doubt desperately going to countless interviews that she was rejected from but kept going so that she could support her family. So why of all people did a perfectionist like Young Joon hire her to be his secretary? I think he subconsciously recognized her, which is also why she is the only woman he is okay with touching him.
And if that is the explanation then it is infinitely more palatable to me, especially because I already love this drama so much!

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Yes! That is exactly what I thought. And it seems, from the cable ties and his dream that he is the likely candidate for the "oppa". Odds are also good that she was somehow caught up in his kidnapping as she also has trauma. At least they are sowing the seeds in a believable way.

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Yes. This may be what scriptwriter is going at with the shared traumatic childhood experience.
One afraid of cable ties an another of spiders. Guess they were locked up together in a dark scary place. The experience may be so traumatising they chose to bury it but current self can still identify with the other.
Hmm.... that sounds similar to so many other background story and very much like the expected truck of doom when one crosses the street in a kdrama.
But I'm not going to let that spoil my enjoyment of watching. I was having a drama slump and am very happy to have something to look forward to after Suits ended. Chasing after episodes of Wok Of Love, Secretary Kim and Are You Human Too is sweet torture indeed.

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Not my favorite trope either. Butttt.... im letting it slide. because i feel it won't be a drama without this trope. like geez 85% of dramas have this. Im starting to think its a pre-requisite.

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@lollypip, I need her to be free for a while too. I need the drama to give me. I also don't want her to come back and work for him or with him. Healthy distance is important in any relationship.

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Yes! I would love to see growth for Mi-so independent from Young-joon-verse. I really hope that her identify does not start from being his secretary directly to becoming his girlfriend/wife.

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I hope so too. However, I have a feeling she might end up working with him. That's usually the case. She will get a good, high position along with him. She is so talented and probably knows the company so well by now. I do hope she will carve her own path instead of this. If not, I just wish she does not go back to being his secretary when they are already together.

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With the new secretary in training, I was hoping there will an opportunity for them to split the work during the transition time so Mi-so can have more chances for Mi-so time, like take a weekend off to go hiking, sleep in more, garden, go on lots of blind dates, go to a sauna with her sisters, eat hard-broiled eggs on a train ride to Busan, etc. I'd love to see a set of epilogues of Mi-so just doing mundane things with that positive, effervescent spirit of hers.

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The middle of 'Revolutionary Love' was pretty good when the idiot chaebol prince moves past his obsessive infatuation to genuine coworkerly respect for the woman. Then they ruined it all in the final scene where he stalks her to Norway (ugh). It would be refreshing if the rich clueless jerk *didn't* get the girl for once. I want secretary Kim to date, marry, have babies, work a fulfilling job (not in the food service industry) while the narcissist boss reconciles himself to his loss.

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Sometimes I think this drama should be called, What's Wrong with Vice President Lee. Funny enough, the What's Wrong part has different connotations.

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I was just thinking about the translation of the title. The literal meaning is closer to "Why Did Secretary Kim Do That/ Why Is Secretary Kim Being This Way?" It's a lot more neutral, but it would've made for a very clumsy drama name, so I don't think any of us mind. Also, I do like the irony of the title they chose, which you've summed up nicely.

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Hahaha, you have a point.

Lol, I feel like whenever I read the title, I'm always reading it in his voice, hehe. That's why it works, even if it should technically be reversed!

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Can I just say I have super ponytail envy! Her hair is so luxurious looking. Why doesn't my ponytail look like that? lol

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Yes! How is it so silky and bouncy and perfect looking?

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I find myself staring at it mesmerized. Not only is she an absolutely gorgeous woman, but she has the best ponytail ever! Her whole being is mesmerizing. I might be a little in love at this point. 😂😆

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Miso exudes so much charm and positive vibes. When she smiles I melt. Her killer hair and fashion just adds to her already lovely self.

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@umbrellaman you aren't alone in being in love with PMY. She has this incredible aura that's both charismatic, yet relatable and kind. @celine I love it when Miso suddenly gets either confident (eg. when dealing with that manager in ep1) or childlike (with her sisters, sleeping in). She plays both ends of the spectrum with ease and that honestly just brings her even more to life.

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her hair is gooooorgeous ! and so thick, with the perfect colour and sooooo long!! and she's so slim and pretty in her prim & proper work clothes! I liiiike !

(Disclaimer: every body is a good body. #bodyPositive )

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Right?! I am so copying her hairstyle. Haha! I may not get the full luxurious look, but I shall try. Haha!

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I have long hair like hers, but knowing me the weight of it would pull the ponytail down and I would get a headache from wearing it high on my head. Plus, hers is so silky and perfectly curled. I would need to spend forever straightening mine! Can we just hire a hair stylist to come in every morning and make our hair beautiful?

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It has to be extensions, right? It's so long and still bouncy.

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It doesn't look like extensions. Usually you can see the layers, but not here.

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I really think that she has extensions too, @bcampbell1662 (Beverly) ! and ain't nothing wrong with that! It's gorgeous and "she's slaaayin' it"

@umbrellaman extensions done well look like real hair, especially if the extensions are of the same texture/colour as the real hair. Trust me. *wink*

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There was actually a recent Canadian show called Orphan Black which starred one amazing actress as a plethora of clones who grew up in different environments. Almost equally as amazing was the way the hairstylist faked many different kinds of hairstyles for the different clones, including faking dreadlocks for one clone and faking bangs for another. I was fascinated when I saw the behind the scenes because I would not have thought either of those could be done so realistically! Movie magic indeed!

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Do you recommend Orphan Black? That's an intriguing premise.

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Oh, i'm glad someone brought this up. She does have an amazing ponytail! I've been meaning to GIF that for the longest!

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I was trying for the longest to get a good screenshot of it, but a gif would be even better! :)

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please gif this!!

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Her ponytail was the first thing I noticed about her too. How does it stick out of her head horizontally like that then flow down like a waterfall in slow motion to end in a smooth curly queue at the bottom? How?! This is her best ponytail yet.

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It's probably the best ponytail I have ever seen. The only other person I have had hair envy for was Jun Ji-hyun in My Love from Another Star.

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It's a manga ponytail come to life! Also, the real-life version of the original Barbie doll ponytail.

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Barbie Doll!! That's what I was imagining! Add her pencil skirts, her stiletto heels, and her ponytail and she is like Barbie doll perfection.

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I know! My hair has a similar thickness to hers, but the last time I had my hair that long, I couldn't put it up in a pony tail, because it would just be a long droopy ponytail.

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Thanks for the recap! I can't believe how much i'm liking this show!

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Thanks for the recap!

I've dropped a few currently airing dramas and started this because of the trailers I saw on IG.

It'll be fun lurking around the recap section again 😅

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I actually missed some recaps because I got out of the habit of even checking and would go straight to the Beanie wall. Now I must go and check out Life on Mars too. I need to retrain myself. I feel like DB is getting back onits legs again!!!!!

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Agree! Well, Bangtan's promotion just ended and Festa too so as a Beanie Army we're fairly free >.< And seeing the overlords posting *dances in joy*

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thank you, @lollypip!
I watched both episodes back-to-back and was soooo sad that a 3rd, 4th and 5th didn't follow right away! #TheStruggleIsReal
This show was sooo much fun!

and I completely agree with you: Young-joon (or PSJ's perfect portrayal of him) is really not inherently mean. He genuinely seems convinced that he's of a superior breed, like he was raised that way and it's really just part of his dna. He's not "looking down" on anyone; in his head, it just so happens that he's Zeus and you're a mere mortal, like, "there, there. it's not your fault. we're all born different". lol

anyways, I can't wait for subs on ep.3 and 4! (tooooniiiiiight!)

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Their rich history together is what possibly sells their relationship most thoroughly. It makes me curious about how the situation with his Thursday date went down, how he convinced her that a car was a logical gift, and see them when they had to work together on the merger that gave him stress five years ago. We know that they must have been through a lot at this point, and that is what makes their current situation so complicated. As Mi-so tries to prepare to leave and does things for the last time, how many more memories will be brought back? There had to be some times where she was less dissatisfied, or she probably would have looked for a new job much sooner.

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I don't love the childhood trope, but I have a feeling it might be passably ok in this drama? Because I get the sense that maybe the connection informed his opinion of their relationship when they first met, but her lack of memory gave her a different impression. So, they began working together with this between them, but neither knew? I don't know, I just hope it is handled well.

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So you think he knew her from that past experience but she doesn't remember him?
Might explain the comment he made about her and his brother.

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Speculation here, but I think he recognized her from the beginning, but realized she didn't remember him, or the traumatic experience they maybe shared. So, perhaps he has, in his own way, been protective of her for all this time. I would say more, but that is for the episode 3 recap.

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So many little things lead me to think that he hired her back then because he remembered her and because it was important to him to be near her again. She has mentioned several times that she didn't know what she was doing when she started, so she probably wasn't qualified. He may even have sought her out for the job. And now the reason he gives for needing her to stay on is that she is Kim Mi-so. Kim Mi-so who played an important part in his life before she was his secretary.

The remark about the two people who should never call him inconsiderate, the nightmare, the cable ties, her fear of spiders,
and her memories of "oppa" all tie into this. And so do his inability to let her go and his disinterest in romantic relationships. For him, having Mi-so around is about a more fundamental need, not (so far) about man-woman-romance.

So I think I was right about the Hansel and Gretel element. And it doesn't bother me, even if it is a trope, because in this case it doesn't seem like a ridiculous coincidence that no one was aware of, but something that created a bond between them that he is continuing to act on.

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I also am reminded of the beginning of While You Were Sleeping, when everyone thought that Lee Jong-suk was obsessed with himself because he was always taking selfies everywhere -- and then it turned out they were photos to leave at his father's memorial. I think Lee Young-joon's self-obsession may turn out to be similar -- that actually there's a reason behind it and it's not just arrogance and conceit. As in, he built a cocoon around himself because of what happened to him in the past.

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One other thing -- could it be that he's been making her work early mornings, late nights, and weekends not because he's an unfeeling workaholic, but because he wants to keep her in his sight as much as possible, not for romantic reasons, but so that nothing happens to her ever again.

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I agree. More of their past please, not the childhood thing but the past nine years of working together. I hope we get snippets of when they started having those feelings or when they started noticing the other for something more than work. It is simple, but the simple stories told earnestly win in the end for me.

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I don't think she was that dissatisfied. She grew to become a super competent secretary and has a lot of professional pride. Her boss is self-absorbed, but nothing she can't handle. But as she paid off the last of the family debts, as she's about to turn 30, and as she notices that all her friends are getting married, she feels it's the right time to leave and catch up on the rest of her life. She mentioned it in the first episode that if she didn't leave now, she felt like she would never leave.

I think MS can handle the usual YJ foibles, but a YJ intent on her not leaving her job is new territory.

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My new crack! I watched both episodes back-to-back on Thursday, and I'm so glad I did because Episode 1 left me wanting moar! Miso is awesome. Young Joon is an insensitive narcissist, yet still manages to make my heart flutter. I can't believe he said "let you" twice ("let you marry me" & "let you date me"). How pretentious can he be to assume she would be thankful for his "letting" her be with him? Clearly Miso only puts up with him because of her job. While Young Joon is incapable of loving anyone but himself, his eyes did show a flicker of love when Miso tied his tie in the sunrise.

Kang Ki Young and Hwang Bora are Scene. Stealers. I laughed out loud at Yoo Shik's incredulous reactions and food safe and Sera's over-the-top antics and sneering. When Sera fell onto Young Joon's lap, I wondered why Secretary Kim didn't pull her off right away. I don't like Ji Ah. I fist-pumped when Sera called her out for being sly. I know we saw how incompetent Miso was at her job when she started, but Ji Ah just seems so fake. Is she that sheltered that she doesn't know how to use K-Cups? Is she Korean when she can't even cut meat?

While I'm loving the lightheartedness, I'm worried their childhood trauma will veer too dark. Young Joon's nightmare was straight out of a horror movie. I was expecting Lee Tae Hwan to be the nice, perfect second lead to combat Young Joon's assholery, but then Sung Yeon sends his brother this creepy text. I'm not a fan of love triangles between family.

A big thanks for recapping all these dramas, @LollyPip!

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Ji Ah DOOOOEEES seem fake, riiiiight?? There's just something about her that I don't trust... Why is she taking so many pics of Hwang Sera? What's up with the constant phone calls? And why does she not know how to do a n y t h i n g, in spite of being a Secretary????? How did she even get the balls to want to interview if she can't make a simple cup of coffee???

there's definitely something suspicious about her, dear @panshel . I totally agree with "not liking Ji Ah".

(Also, unfortunately for the actress playing Ji Ah, she was the extremely incompetent/clingy office junior in Fight My Way and OOH! she irked me soooo much there, that the minute I recognized her in What's Wrong with Secretary Kim, the dislike was instant!)

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😆 I am glad to know that I am not the only one who is having a hard time to disassociate her awful and tiresome character from Fight My way with this one.

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Her character in Marriage Contract is even more unlikeable than in FMW 🙊 I'm glad I watched FMW first before Marriage Contract and this drama, or I'd have a knee-jerk dislike for the poor actor.

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I agree with this. Or maybe she thinks it's YJ's hyung but it's actually YJ!

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Given dramaland's track record, there's a good possibility of your theory being right.

MS's extreme fear of spiders and nagging feeling of having gotten lost as a young girl, coupled with YJ's nightmare and aversion to cable ties has me wondering if we they've shared a Kill Me Heal Me kind of a past.

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Agree! The subs in viki actually first said 'brother' and then 'older man' or something like that so we are not the only one thinking that.

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Yes, you're right. English subtitles tend to drop oppa/ hyung/ noona/ unnie in favour of "brother" or "sister", which I've always found weird because the terms can be a lot more ambiguous in Korean than in English.

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[quote]She thinks back to the night she first met him, when he’d asked if she knew who he was[/unquote]

This being a kdrama, I’m guessing that line has a deeper meaning, likely that they’ve met before as children, and he had hoped that she might have recognized him (and she spectacularly didn’t, not even as the chairman’s son).

I hope it takes Miso awhile longer to reciprocate romantically. Not only does it make it more fun to see Lee YoungJoon squirm, but also because their power imbalance is too tilted right now. The fact that it never occurred to her that she was allowed say NO to him is extremely telling (acceptable for a secretary, troubling for a girlfriend). I’d hate for her to begin a relationship with even a hint of that feeling still lingering in her mind.

Sera is the worst sort of side character. Not funny, overacted, and makes me feel simultaneously sorry and extremely embarrassed for her.

The frequent need of Lee YoungJoon to shower did make me chuckle though 😆

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Nice theory.

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Cheers to everything you just said, especially Se Ra, my God she is so annoying.

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I understand her character is comic relief, but the overacting makes the physical comedy feels tortured. Everything she does makes me wonder why she was hired to be on the Vice President's team in the first place. Please show us that she is at least competent with her work, Show!

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The overacting makes me uncomfortable, especially when you consider her position within the company. The second-hand embarrassment is strong here.

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I loved Hwang Bora in Arang and FMW, but she was definitely over-the-top this episode, especially the karaoke scene. Since the show began, her scenes have been hit or miss for me. But I still love her when I love her.

Actually, part of the reason I don't hate Kim Ji-ah the way most seem to is because I actually find the scenes with just the two of them to be the funniest of Sera's. I find their relationship hilarious, but that's only because I completely buy that Kim Ji-ah is as innocently inept as she seems (I mean, just look at the way she was hired). I find Sera's ridiculous reactions to both her praise and subsequent "ditching" to be really funny. I think it's because both characters have certain really annoying characteristics, so when you put them together I end up enjoying the ways they torture each other.

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am I the only one who doesn't like those shower scenes?? I feel alien for even saying it, given how much I looooove this actor, but... meh. He looks amazing but the shower scenes make me avert my eyes, for some absurd reason...

*wondering what's wrong with me*

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It's okay. Everyone's tolerance/comfort level with nakedness is different. I myself enjoy the visuals, but can see how too much would be off-putting, or uncomfortable for others. It probably doesn't help that the scenes are blatantly gratuitous, and I wonder if our conversations about them would be completely different if we had repeated topless scenes with Miso.

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maybe that's what it is, eh? I mean, I'm by no means a prude, but Lord, were those scenes gratuitous! like, BAM! IN YOUR FACE! (the dirty minds will roam *cough*) and for some reason, this time around, I just had very little appreciation for it.
meh.
but thanks for the introspection.

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I find those scenes very gratuitous too. They just make me chuckle because now they seem so obvious to me. When I was a drama newbie I had no idea why Korean men shower so much!

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oh, I'm a seasoned Kdrama watched and STILL, I don't always "appreciate" those shower scenes. Or maybe I'm just tired of them? lol

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The most gratuitous of all kdrama shower scenes is the one in K2.

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Hahaha it is sooooo gratuitous that it now has a purpose for being one for the books! The Bureau of Censorship worked diligently for that scene.

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They never seem to have awkward shower poses either. And their showers are impeccable. Then I think about my torn shower curtain and how I always keep knocking over something from the shallow shower shelf. I guess that's what I get for not being a VP of something important.

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ha ha ha ha
my shower & its curtain have indeed had better days...

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No, you're not the only one who doesn't like them, or at least is unimpressed. For example, us guys.

Yes, those scenes are gratuitous, as several have already said. And after seeing them in the episode, we have to see them about 800,000 times when we check out the fan walls. Seems some people do like them.

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don't even get me started on the spamming of the fan walls ... *side eye*
some Beanies just oooooover do it with posting every pic available of their kdrama or kpop crush!

#thereIsaidit

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The K-drama shower scenes provoke chuckles from me than anything else now, although if I have to count the number of times I see gratuitous cleavage shots growing up watching western TV shows, movies, magazines, posters and the likes, it probably would far exceed 800,0000.

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that was also going to be my comeback to @lordcobol but I'm sure he knew that. *wink*

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Well, I haven't actually been counting gratuitous cleavage shots, but now that you mention them....

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Yes, because of just that I can both chuckle knowingly at gratuitous kdrama shower scenes while still yelling out loud, "THANK YOU!" with no embarrassment 🤷🏻‍♀️. Life is good.

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I watched this kdrama where the OTP were middle-aged and I just cracked up laughing when the guy ended up having to do the shower scene. I mean, good on him, but still...

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@cloggie lol was it a show called Gentlemen of Dignity??
hahahahaha

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Slightly opened shirt or beautiful hands shots have much bigger effect on me. *points out to Hwayugi*

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So sweet so good so EVERYTHING!

Without spoiling anything I think I actually like the use of the childhood acquaintances trope in this one, because it does sort of fully explain why and how certain things happen and relationships between our characters are built. It’s a pretty good use of the trope I feel, and not that overwrought haha. I just can’t wait for everything to play out on screen though

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