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What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim: Episode 4

Young-joon is still determined to convince Mi-so to marry him so that she doesn’t have to quit her job as his secretary. It’s hilariously convoluted logic, and I love how Mi-so finds it absurd, but somehow endearing at the same time. Unfortunately, a big event at work and a personal threat from the past show up at the same time, making Young-joon preoccupied and short-tempered.

 
EPISODE 4 RECAP

Angry about the three-legged race, Young-joon criticizes Mi-so for being okay with skinship with a strange man. She snaps that it’s better than being a loser, so he scoots closer and closer, challenging her not to be affected. Finally he pulls her arm as he topples backwards onto the couch, and Mi-so lands on top of him.

They freeze, staring at each other for a long, long time. The ice pack falls off the table, and the sound breaks the spell. Mi-so jumps up to get another ice pack, leaving Young-joon lying there, blinking in confusion. When Mi-so goes back to the living room, she finds Young-joon fast asleep, and she sits to watch him for a minute.

He starts having a nightmare, the same one involving the woman in red high heels. This time there’s a young boy in the house with her, and Young-joon hears her voice croon, “Kid, can you help me?” She reaches out with claw-like hands, and the little boy screams.

Young-joon jerks awake and Mi-so helps him sit up. She brings him some calming tea and asks if he’s okay, and he says, “Yes, thanks to you.” In a tiny, vulnerable voice, he says he doesn’t want to be alone, and he asks Mi-so to sleep at his house tonight.

She takes his request entirely the wrong way, making both of them feel awkward. Young-joon says that he meant she could sleep in the guest room, only because it’s late, of course. Mi-so is both relieved and embarrassed, and Young-joon seems to enjoy her flustered reaction when he asks what she thought he meant.

A call comes in that wipes the smile off his face, and he tells Mi-so that she can’t sleep over after all. She assures him that she had no intention whatsoever of sleeping over, and literally runs out of the house. On her way home, she wonders who that call was from and why Young-joon looked upset.

A man crashes into Mi-so, dropping his phone — it’s Sung-yeon, Young-joon’s brother, though she doesn’t know him. He tells her to be more careful, but not because of his phone, and he stoops to tie her undone shoelace. He goes on his way, and Mi-so mutters that he was awfully sweet, unlike someone she knows. She doesn’t notice Sung-yeon watching her knowingly.

He goes to Young-joon’s home, not that Young-joon is one bit happy to see him. Sung-yeon says he didn’t want to stay at their parents’ home alone, so he thought he’d pay his brother a visit. He adds he’s still having difficulty because he keeps remembering “that incident,” but that hating Young-joon only makes him feel worse, so he thinks it’s time to forgive him. Unmoved, Young-joon tells Sung-yeon to leave.

When she gets home, Mi-so finds the cable ties still in her pocket. She recalls a day nine years ago when she’d made the mistake of putting them in his office, and Young-joon had told her shakily that he reacts to cable ties like she reacts to spiders. She remembers that it was the first time her boss, who’d seemed so perfect, had acted like an average person in front of her.

She has a sore area on her ankle from the three-legged race, which reminds her of Young-joon’s scar, and she wonders what happened to him. She texts him to check on his twisted ankle and to tell him that she cleared his schedule so he can relax. Young-joon complains that she’s nagging him again, though he’s smiling when he says it.

The next morning, the office is in a tizzy, because another company’s new art center has purposely moved up its opening date, in order to open before Yumyoung Group’s art center opens later in the month. Young-joon overhears and tells them to just move their opening date up as well. Everyone looks panicked, but Mi-so says calmly that she’ll take care of everything.

The office team works like crazy while Young-joon visits the new art center, where the director tells him that it will be difficult to have the different departments completed in time. Mi-so makes logical suggestions and eliminates the problems, impressing Young-joon with her ingenuity.

She and Young-joon are touring the library alone when the lights unexpectedly go out. Mi-so calls and learns that the power is out in the building, and she tells the director to fix the problem and not worry about them.

Young-joon sighs over all the delays, then turns to face Mi-so and screams his head off. HAHA, the light from her phone screen on her face frightened him — she says she was just turning on the flashlight, but she grins that he looked cute when he screamed.

Then her smile drops as she realizes she just called her boss cute. Young-joon informs her that he’s not cute, he’s fatally attractive, okay?

They find a table and sit in the dark, trying valiantly not to look at each other (there seems to be something very interesting on the ceiling, ha). Eventually Mi-so gets up to browse the books, and she finds one of her favorite romances. She leafs through the book awkwardly, trying to hold her phone’s light on it, so Young-joon reaches over to hold it for her.

He takes advantage of her distraction to look at her face, lit only by the soft phone light. She reads her favorite passage out loud: “I want to be in the kind of relationship where I feel like the tiredness of my day gets washed off just by hugging you once, even if you don’t make my heart flutter every second.”

She smiles up at Young-joon, who nervously snaps that it’s childish. He says that his fancy shower washes off the tiredness of his day, but Mi-so grumbles that he’s missing the point. She sighs that even if he thinks it’s childish, it’s the kind of love she dreams of.

She goes back to her book, and Young-joon blurts out, “Have I ever told you that you’re pretty?” She looks up again, but Young-joon backpedals that he’s never said it because he’s never thought it. Oh, you are such a liar.

Unable to stand the tension anymore, they make their way out of the library. Young-joon overrides Mi-so when she shows him the way out, then he leads them to a dead end. Mi-so insists he listen to someone who’s been here before, and Young-joon of course takes the credit for hiring an innovative architect, ha.

Following in Mi-so’s wake, Young-joon asks if she’s wearing perfume. She says he must be smelling her shampoo, flipping her ponytail in his face. He comments on how fast she’s walking, wondering why he’s suddenly noticing things he hasn’t before, so Mi-so says that your senses sharpen in the dark.

She grabs his wrist to pull him along, but he stops, staring at their hands. He says that she’s right about his senses being sharper in the dark, so Mi-so drops his wrist awkwardly, but he grabs her hand in his and they leave together.

He smiles to himself in the car, and asks Mi-so if there are other events at the library besides movie screenings (the event that isn’t ready). He tells her to have them prepare something for the grand opening, and she says she’ll come up with other ideas as well, since he seems worried about it.

Mi-so is distracted later while having dinner with her sisters. She says she’s trying to think of an event for the library opening, and they tell her not to be a workaholic, since she’s quitting soon anyway. Her middle sister blames Young-joon’s anxiety over losing Mi-so, having heard about his possessiveness from Pil-nam.

Mi-so says that she thinks Young-joon is trying to change her mind because he actually needs her. Pil-nam worries that Mi-so likes Young-joon, but Mi-so denies it (a little too loudly). Pil-nam says that Mi-so needs to end it cleanly before she’s stuck being his secretary forever.

On her way to the restroom, Mi-so screams when she sees a spider. She asks Pil-nam (who’s a psychiatrist) if it’s possible to overcome phobias, and Pil-nam reassures her that she can get over it if she keeps facing her fear. She tells Mi-so to visit her office, but Mi-so says she’s not talking about herself.

Young-joon sits at home, wondering what Mi-so is doing. He picks up a copy he purchased of the book she was reading at the library, scoffing that she reads such childish stuff, then begins reading the book himself. One passage says: “In this heavy and confusing life, while you deal with your business, you wonder what they are doing all of a sudden, and think of the person first instead of yourself. That’s enough of a reason to call it love.”

He puts the book aside, telling himself that he has to wonder what Mi-so is doing so he can give her work. He scoffs that calling it love is ridiculous, but he looks a teeny bit worried.

In the morning, Ji-ah gets excited over an article announcing the release date for Morpheus’ book, and she wonders why he’s never revealed his identity. This gives Mi-so the idea to do a book concert with a famous author for the library opening.

She takes the idea to Young-joon, and she starts to mention Morpheus, then stops when she worries that she might not be able to convince Morpheus to do it. Young-joon comments that her plan is incomplete, so Mi-so asks for time to work out the details.

Young-joon gets a text from Sung-yeon that he’s in the building. Young-joon suddenly sends Mi-so to the burger shop with an oddly specific order. He orders her not to hurry and to take the stairs, obviously trying to get rid of her.

Sung-yeon makes his way to Young-joon’s office, saying that he stopped by on his way to meet with his publisher. He offers Young-joon an advance copy, which Young-joon doesn’t accept, and Sung-yeon says he wouldn’t read it anyway since it’s a love story. He tells Young-joon that he should date so he knows what love is, but Young-joon just says there are many things he needs to learn, and asks Sung-yeon to go.

Mi-so is just getting back to the office as Sung-yeon is leaving, and they recognize each other from last night. Sung-yeon asks for Mi-so’s number, insisting when she says she’s in a hurry, so she takes his phone. He sees her name on her employee badge, and he laughs when he realizes she gave him a fake number.

Mi-so takes the food up to Young-joon, who says he’s lost his appetite. She smiles and takes the food away, but she’s worried at how upset he seems.

Down in the lobby, Ji-ah and Se-ra pass by bachelor Gwi-nam taking a break. Se-ra notes that he looks tired, and when Ji-ah mentions that he’s a workaholic, Se-ra tells her that he always turns down social invitations in favor of getting more work done, and that he has ten of the same suit so he doesn’t have to waste time picking out clothes. She steps away to take a call, and Ji-ah notices that there’s a piece of lint on Gwi-nam’s butt when he passes her.

Young-joon’s parents return from Jeju island to see Sung-yeon, who’s been out of the country for three years. They ask if he’s seen Young-joon, but he sighs that Young-joon still hates him and acts un friendly.

Mi-so gets a return call from Morpheus’ agent, saying that he’s not interested in public activities. She helps Young-joon put on his jacket when he steps out of his office, and he asks if she wants Italian for lunch. She says she’s busy planning the library opening, so he says he wasn’t asking her to eat with him, just saying she should go for Italian. Riiiight.

In her quest to book Morpheus for the library opening, Mi-so meets with a reporter who once interviewed him by email, but she refuses to share his email address. Mi-so politely reminds the reporter about the time she talked the company out of suing her for digging into Young-joon’s personal life, which gets her that email.

While Mi-so is emailing Morpheus that evening, Young-joon is having a drink with Yoo-shik and admiring his reflection in his glass. Yoo-shik says he heard about the blackout while Young-joon was at the library, and asks if it was stressful. Young-joon remembers watching Mi-so’s face as she read, and holding her hand as they left the building, and says it was fun.

The next morning, Se-ra rants at Ji-ah for being bad at photocopying, but she changes her tune mid-sentence when Gwi-nam walks in with the opening event proposal. Ji-ah sees the lint that’s still on his hiney, so when the office team repeats the rumor that he has ten of the same suit, she says she thinks he’s wearing the same suit as yesterday.

Se-ra snaps at her not to bad-mouth Gwi-nam, then heads back to her office, nearly running into Yang-cheol, Young-joon’s assistant. They step back and forth, trying to get past each other, with Yang-cheol growing more and more sheepish — aww, someone has a crush on Se-ra.

Mi-so takes Young-joon the planning department’s event proposal, saying that she’s still working on the book concert. She steps close to fix his tie, startling him, and he stammers that he’ll do it. She leaves and his heart pounds — just three times, but enough to make him wonder if he should see a doctor.

Young-joon’s mom asks Mi-so to meet with her, and she gives her a gift and asks if Young-joon is busy today. Mi-so tells her that he’s working on the art center opening, and Mom worries that if she invites him to dinner tonight, he’ll get annoyed. Mi-so reveals that he’s free, so Mom jumps up excitedly to go see him.

She doesn’t even finish inviting him to a family dinner before he turns her down flat. She tries pouting, asking nicely, a guilt trip, and even aegyo, but nothing works. She goes out to whine to Mi-so that he’s just not interested, then gets an idea.

She complains that there’s dust on her shoes, so Mi-so leans down to get handkerchief. When she pops back up, Mom is gone, and her purse is sitting on Mi-so’s desk. Mom calls Mi-so, telling her to have Young-joon bring her purse to her at home this evening.

Mi-so tells Young-joon about his mother’s scheme. He asks who’s more important, Mom or him, and when Mi-so says it’s him, he hides a grin. But she continues that he’s being stubborn, and she warns him not to do something he’ll regret.

At dinner that evening, Mom is thrilled to have both of her sons at the same table, even though Young-joon eats silently while Sung-yeon plays the dutiful son. Mom asks Young-joon if she should have invited Mi-so, telling Sung-yeon that she’s the only person Young-joon trusts.

She starts to suggest they invite her for dinner while Sung-yeon is in town, but Young-joon changes the subject to the art center opening. Dad praises Young-joon for his business sense in moving up the center’s opening, but Mom worries that he’s got too much on his plate. Young-joon tells his parents not to worry, but they fuss over him and pile his plate with food while Sung-yeon watches, forgotten.

Sung-yeon takes Young-joon some coffee after dinner, but Young-joon doesn’t take his eyes off his tablet and says stiffly that he’s working. Sung-yeon says he’s curious about Mi-so and how she put up with him for nine years. He says that it seems like Young-joon is purposely keeping her away from him, and asks if Young-joon is worried he’ll date her.

Finally looking up, Young-joon just growls, “Get out.” Sung-yeon complains that he’s trying to reach out to Young-joon, but Young-joon asks why he should be thankful. Sung-yeon reminds him that he’s willing to pretend nothing happened, but that just makes Young-joon angrier.

He says that Sung-yeon is rubbing it in too much for someone claiming to be willing to forgive. He says that “it” happened over twenty years ago, and he doesn’t even remember, and Sung-yeon looks stricken. He asks why Young-joon hates him so much, but Young-joon says he doesn’t hate him: “I abhor you.”

Sung-yeon gets angry and yells, “If it weren’t for what you did, I would be in your place!” Young-joon asks if he truly believes that, calling him weak and incompetent. He says that Sung-yeon tortures others to protect himself, and that even if “that” hadn’t happened, he still wouldn’t have been capable of running the company.

He starts to walk out, but Sung-yeon stops him with a right hook. Young-joon jumps up ready to punch back, but their parents walk in. Dad bellows at them, and Mom bursts into tears. Her sobs get through to Young-joon, and he drops his fist and leaves without another word.

In his room later, Sung-yeon gets a call from his publisher that they emailed him an urgent proposal. He checks his email, and sees the request from Mi-so about the book concert.

Young-joon drives straight to Mi-so’s apartment, but he stops and turns back to his car. He sees Mi-so walking towards him, looking at her phone, and he smiles. She walks right past him without looking up, so he reaches out to touch her shoulder, nearly giving her a heart attack.

She fusses at him for scaring her, but stops when she sees the blood on his lip. He tells her not to ask, and she grabs his wrist to pull him inside. She immediately regrets it when she sees how messy her apartment is, so she shoves Young-joon back out and tells him to give her one minute. He waits while she hurriedly cleans up, stashing things wherever she can, including hiding a pile of her bras underneath Hardworking Cow.

Finally she lets him in, insisting on doctoring his lip in case of any photos taken at the art center opening. She sits him in a chair while she sits on the bed and makes him lean towards her. It gets his heart thumping, and he looks adorably terrified as he obeys.

He’s mesmerized by her as she concentrates on cleaning up his lip. At one point she looks up at him, and gets stuck staring back. He jerks away abruptly, breaking the spell, and Mi-so asks if he got in a fight. He tells her again not to ask, so instead, she brightens and invites him to stay for ramyun. She’s so perky that Young-joon can’t help but smile, then laugh.

While Mi-so makes ramyun, Young-joon looks around her room, and he finds her favorite book and mutters at the childish thing. Mi-so pops up behind him and pouts that he doesn’t understand love, so he asks wryly if she does, having been single all her life.

She stomps off to check if the water is boiling, and Young-joon notices that Hardworking Cow is lying face-down. He leans over to adjust him, and Mi-so runs in, frantic to stop him before he sees her entire bra collection. She ends up shoving him onto the bed and landing on top of him, but this time when Mi-so starts to get up, Young-joon wraps his arms around her and pulls her into a hug.

He whispers, “Just for a little while. Let me stay like this for a little while. From now on, I’m going to be madly in love with you.”

 
COMMENTS

Okay Young-joon, you said it, you can’t take it back now! I’m sure he’ll try, but Mi-so heard him loud and clear, and it’s going to be a lot harder for Young-joon to come up with far-fetched justifications for his actions from now on. I’m actually hoping for the opposite — that he embraces (heh) his new feelings and runs with it, and just storms Mi-so’s emotional castle with his awkward, ridiculous, endearing feelings.

You know, as nice as the big grand gestures like fireworks shows and fancy dinners are, I think I prefer Young-joon when he’s doing small, thoughtful things for Mi-so. Holding the light so she could read was just pure swoon, because it shows that he’s watching her closely, and that he wants to make things easier for her. He even reads the book she likes because he wants to understand her better, and it’s pretty telling that, when he was in physical and emotional pain, he went straight to Mi-so for comfort. So I hope Young-joon was paying attention when she read the book passage about wanting to be with someone who takes away her weariness, because up until now, he’s unfortunately been the source of it. I think that was a huge clue as to what Young-joon needs to do if he truly wants to win Mi-so’s heart — become a man who makes her life easier, not harder.

I’m so fascinated by the relationship between Young-joon and Sung-yeon, and why they’re so antagonistic. Sung-yeon’s current friendly attitude doesn’t fool me — this is the same guy who midnight-texts Young-joon that he’s living in hell. He bullied Young-joon as a child, and he definitely seems to have been involved in the event that traumatized Young-joon when they were young. It’s interesting that someone that toxic grew up to be a romance author, of all things. But I’m mostly curious about the event they keep alluding to, and what exactly happened. Sung-yeon seems to blame Young-joon for something that happened to him, but all the evidence (the scars, the nightmares, the cable tie phobia) points to Young-joon as being the child who was kidnapped. So what is it that Sung-yeon thinks Young-joon did to him?

I worry that Young-joon’s mom told Sung-yeon about Young-joon’s trusting relationship with Mi-so. If he’s really hiding a sinister side, she just handed him the ammunition of how to get right to Young-joon. Now I’m scared that Sung-yeon will do something to Mi-so, or even just try to date her to hurt Young-joon. Hopefully Mi-so is too smart to let that happen, and she doesn’t seem interested in him anyway, since she gave Sung-yeon a fake number and seemed annoyed by him. But if Sung-yeon develops a real interest in Mi-so, he could start to see her as another thing that Young-joon has that he should have as the eldest, and do something regrettable. For some reason, I just feel like Sung-yeon is capable of hurting someone else in order to get revenge on Young-joon for whatever he thinks happened when they were children, and it really concerns me that Mi-so is on his radar.

Even though it was the humor in What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim that drew me in at first, somehow the darker turn that the plot has taken doesn’t bother me like it would have if you’d told me about it a week ago. The childhood trauma subplot is interesting enough to me that I’m just fascinated in a different way, and I love the way Young-joon and Mi-so’s relationship is evolving and growing. The humor is still there, and Young-joon is as endearing as ever with his arrogant confidence that he’s the best thing that ever happened to Mi-so, and all he has to do is make her realize it. The problem is, he’s got it the wrong way around… she’s the best thing that ever happened to him. All Mi-so has to do is hold out until he figures it out, and she’ll have him hooked good.

 
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Am I the only one hoping the brothers don't sort out their problems? I mean, I don't think I'd be satisfied with some bromance here. Unlike in something like School 2013, their relationship doesn't feel completely mendable. I think I'll be happy if they agree as such, but ambiguously forgive each other for the past. You know, letting go.
Of course, the show might change my mind on this. In however many episodes time, their relationship may have so subtlely and progressively improved that I'll have nothing to be grumpy about?

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That would be great. My favorite part about Kill Me Heal Me is when they didn't forgive the father, so unless what he did wasn't too terrible, it would be interesting if he didn't forgive his brother.

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I like that, frabby! Forgiving each other but not necessary warm in their interaction would give this otherwise fluffy show some shade of melancholy for balance. We already have our adorable Park Seo-joon and Kang Ki-Young to satiate our appetite for bromance.

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Kang Ki-young is indeed the superior Bro. 👌

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It would be interesting if only because it’s seldom done in drama. Like @kafiyah-bello said, KMHM introduced the possibility that there are people that cannot be forgiven, and that trauma like that cannot be swept aside to make way for tears and an apology. Plus, when YJ classifies his feelings for SJ as contempt, it does not bode well for even a civil reunion. If SJ starts making moves on Mi-so, I think it would make such a thing impossible.

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I agree with you @frabbycrabsis and @laladaisical because I'm hoping they don't let the hatred between the brothers fester until the last few eps where they suddenly put a neat bow on everything and all is forgiven (with a hint of noble idiocy). Instead I'm hoping the drama either explores the dynamics between the brothers or leaves it realistically. So far the writing has never ventured into overly cliche or saccharine so I'm having faith that WWWSK will keep impressing.

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Yup, that's what I'm worried for when I made this point. Think Cinderella and the Four Knights, where the cousins hated each other, until the last episode when they all suddenly got along.

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Ugh that drama wasn't bad bad but it wasn't exceptional either. I kept with it thinking they might make the "tween-fluff" concept new again like 1% of Anything but nope. 😢

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+1!
I really don't like the older brother right now!

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I can't take Lee Tae Hwan seriously. He is just not cut out to be a villain (even though I know Sung Yeon is not a villain but the third leg of our love triangle). I know the tragic backstory is necessary in showing why Young Joon acts the way he does, and without it, we wouldn't have gotten his seeking Miso out for comfort, but the family secrets is starting to become tedious. Every time Young Joon and Sung Yeon appear together, it feels like a different drama. Borderline corporate takeover. Why can't we get a cute romcom without the childhood trauma? And who keeps casting Lee Tae Hwan as all these eightysomethingers' hyung?

I know everyone wants Miso to quit because she has lost her identity as Kim biseo instead of Kim Miso, but Secretary Kim is her. She's awesome, smart, competent, and the best at her job. Miso finagling Morpheus' e-mail address from the reporter was kickass. "You understand, right?" She looks out for Young Joon's best interests, and she knows him inside out. She knew he was bothered because of his mother. Like she surmised to her sisters, Young Joon definitely needs her. "You are more important to me." Since we've been introduced to all the workplace employees, I imagine Miso will continue to work for Yumyung in some capacity.

Young Joon driving to Miso's house after his fight at home proves he understands "washing off the tiredness of my day" from her favorite book even before he hugged her. Their chemistry during the library blackout was heart-fluttering. I relate to motae solo Miso with her "I've read a lot about (love) in books." Many thanks for the recap, @LollyPip!

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Lee Tae-hwan as the Hyung here is laughable, probably the only place in the show where the casting makes no sense. He's, what, six years younger? And he looks it!

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I totally agree, a complete miscast. Even in his acting he seems younger. So strange how the oldest person is playing the youngest and the youngest is playing the eldest. Weird.

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Even Park Seojoon was surprised that Lee Taehwan is young. Haha! I think they could have chosen someone else, but I am not complaining much. The way I see it, between the brothers, Youngjoon is mature (except in the social and romantic aspect), while Sungyeon is the insecure bully despite being the hyung. In a way, the acting shows that difference between the brothers.

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It is a miscast in terms of age, but I do find it believable that they are brothers with family resemblance. I give Lee Tae-hwan props for improving as an actor since his W days, but also cannot help wondering how interesting it would be if Hyung is played by a skilled actor like Park Byung-Eun.

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Ugh, that would have been great. Lee Tae-hwan could have been the cameo date!!!

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😆 my thought exactly at first, @frabbycrabsis, but then I wouldn't describe that blind date as "normal" with his height and looks.

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Oof, that's true. I suppose it ruins the point of the comparison. Hm... if we went in the Lee Tae-hwan direction for a cameo, though, I think I would choose Kang Ha-neul instead. Then we'd get some cute bromance behind the scenes! It's a fun little nod to them bickering over one girl in Midnight Runners. XD

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Sung-yeon has either got to be shallow and selfish (blaming Young-joon for what happened years ago, when I am sure he actually created the situation himself) OR he has to be sinister (hence the bullying and the tracking of Kim Mi-so). I think Lee Tae-hwan could pull off shallow and selfish, but he doesn't have the stage presence to pull off sinister. I would have liked to see an actor with more acting weight in this part to measure up to the two leads.

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Okay so am not the only one who was like HIM?? 😧😧 OLDER BOTHER?? 😯😯

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I want Mi-so to quit because it is what she wants. She doesn't know who she is other than her identity as his secretary. I will be totally satisfied for her to return to the company that if she realizes that being Secretary Kim is who is she and what she really wants to do.

I love that Mi-so basically blackmailing the reporter for Morpheu's e-mail (love a little shade of grey from my characters.) Just love the show taking the time to show how good she really is at her job with the library scene as well as the one with the reporter!

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Agreed with the first paragraph! She genuinely enjoys the core aspects of this job and is awesome at it; she just needs to be free and unhindered for awhile.

Probably all Young-Joon needs to do is grant her a (very) lengthy sabbatical, with a promise of better work-life balance if she returns. But then we would have no show 😅

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I'm torn about wanting Miso to quit and not wanting her to quit. I like seeing her kickass moments at work and her work ponytail and outfits. However, I agree that she really needs some time apart to do all that self-discovery one does in their twenties. I was hoping that with the new secretary hired, Mi-so can have more free time.

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You will be surprised 😱 😈

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Waiting for it... I'm debating whether I should pay for reading the webtoon so I can find out what happened.

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They modified the original webtoon slightly to traditional k-drama scheme, but I'm enjoying it. I checked it on toonkor.co because I couldn't resist.

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At Hyung being a villain? Have you read the webtoon? I'm curious if Miso remains a secretary. Unfortunately, Lee Tae Hwan cannot pull off evil. 😈

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Someone like Im Joo-wan would have been perfect for that (though he'd also be perfect as a lead in a drama, but most casting directors don't seem to notice that either...).

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Im Joo-wan would have been perfect!!!

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No spoilers 🤐 but the brother doesn't think he's a villain same like in drama 😉

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He may not be able to pull off evil, but he's pulling off being an ass pretty well.

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Hey, I see that devil - don't you dare tell us!

If Secy Kim does end up at the company, she'd better end up as at least Director or President Kim, I'm just sayin' 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Something was lost in translation for me because when his brother first appeared on screen, I thought he’s supposed to play the baby brother. I didn’t realize he’s supposed to be older until this episode 😅 He looks so young!

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When I heard about the casting, I was like, "Oh, so, the CEO had a younger brother?"

Nope.

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I have another point to make kind of in the same vein but for a different character. It frustrates me to see everyone wanting for Young Joon to be brought down in the typical cold-chaebol-meets-good-girl way. This happened after they showed that Young Joon had a very real abusive childhood trauma. Everything he is now is in response to that. What he needs is HEALING. Not for someone to ram his ego down. Not for someone to tell him all the wrongs he has done. Because guess what? He knows. If not then he would be shocked to be called a asshole. He just does not have the emotional strength & stability in him to care & behave like normal people. & also, He cares all right, but its tightly hidden under the layers of ego & meanness he has built around him. And I do not fault him one bit. Sure Miso is a good girl. But what he needs right now is for someone to love him even if he is mean. For someone to love him even if he does not change. Even if he does not conform to how the society wants everyone to act. If anything, I would have loved it if Miso had realised her feelings first & started wooing him unabashedly while Young Joon is the one who initially avoids her but then slowly starts opening up to her. It hurts me, as someone from a similar situation & someone who related with him, to see Young Joon being pushed into a corner to be made to change just for Miso. & yes, this is pushing him into a corner. Miso is very obviously his pillar of strength. The one reliable constant in his life right from when he entered adulthood. I want Miso to be the one running to his house for support. I want Miso to be the one to hug him & say that she is going to be madly in love with him from now. THAT'S how he will heal. If someone is emotionally wounded, they would never EVER put their heart so openly forward. Sigh. I really did want to love this show & heck its good. If only the childhood abuse hadn't been put in. That changed the dynamic completely for me & seeing Young Joon acting the way he is for Miso, is making ME more bitter about the way people think. Why Miss/Mr Writer. WHY. I know, I know, its based on a webtoon but as filmmakers, you should be flexible enough to know when a story wants to & needs to, flow another way.

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Thats a super valid point. Although I think she WAS that, unknowingly, for all those years she worked for him and thats why he is so attached to her. She accepted his phobia and idiosyncrasies and was probably this source of stability and comfort. And the way she fusses over him and asks how he is... its not just work ethic, she genuinely wanted to make him happy.

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I agree With all 3 points that you have made here. But, I would add to your point about Lee Tae Hwan. It seems like he was only cast because of his physical resemblance to the male lead thy look like brothers, although truthfully, he looks like he should be the younger brother (and in fact he is much younger). It would be OK but for the fact that his heart simply is not in this role.

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This show makes me so giddy and so happy. PMY is so beautiful and PSJ is so handsome. EVERYTHING IS SO PRETTY.

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My absolute favorite thing in K-drama romances is when the man falls first. It always makes the drama better. Always, the man is much nicer the rest of the drama and it requires him to treat the female lead much better. What's wrong with Secretary Kim? I live you so.😍😍

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That’s my catnip too! 😊 I also prefer it if the pining goes on for a significant portion of the show :)

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Yes, because pining also leads to plenty of opportunities for petty jealousy, which is my other K-drama catnip!

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YES! One of my maxims in life:

Regardless of his physical looks, a man will always be swooningly attractive when: (1) in a military uniform, or (2) unrequitedly pining with jealous affection

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In real life, pettiness is irritating or downright enraging. In drama, it's gold. I never giggle except when two people are being unbelievably petty onscreen.

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He says that his fancy shower washes off the tiredness of his day, but Mi-so grumbles that he’s missing the point.

I love that Writer-nim is now justifying outright that hey, those shower scenes are NOT gratuitous. It is totally integral to the emotional state of our hero.

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I'll admit - I'm a bit shallow and I will take them even if they are gratuitous

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@tspmasala @spicykimchi
"Mi so grumbles that he's missing the point" - but we're missing the shower scene this episode!!! 😇 Of all episodes to not have a shower scene, this is the most inappropriate! 😆

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No no no, @growingbeautifully! It is never inappropriate to have a shower scene. I say that with all those forlorn stares, falling on top of each other, and heart skipping beats, Young-joon needs a shower to calm down in this episode just as much as the ones preceding it!

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Maybe we’ll see more “cold” shower scenes from now on—

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The Shower company didn't pay the PPL contract for episode 4.

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An opportunity down the drain for companies that supply bathroom essentials and equipment! Hahaha

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@celine Hahaha 🚽

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Good one @🍙NothingIsWrongWithNoonaKimbap 😂 😆 😋

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But the refrigerator scene....that was wholly gratuitous. I'm not sure even Writer-nim can emotionally justify that one, for the hero that is.

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You are absolutely right @egads! That is not emotional but a visual one proving that PSJ looks just as good in a close up in front of the fridge as in a long shot in front of the window.

Also, PPL time.

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I disagree, maybe he likes to be shirtless, we don't know his life.

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Well, we know he can't seem to put on a tie without Mi-so, so maybe putting on a shirt is also difficult or too much trouble without her.

Or perhaps the water, or whatever, being advertised specifically requested gratuitous naked chest. Poor choice on their part their part though as no one paid any attention to the labels.

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Lmao, exactly. I was fine with it, PPL what PPL?

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It’s interesting that someone that toxic grew up to be a romance author, of all things.

Based on what my publisher tells me about certain romance authors, I'm not suprised at all...

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What does your publisher say about crime writers who kill off characters for a living?

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That they are really nice people

That's what she says to my face anyway

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My experience with writer friends is that the nice and quiet ones have the most blood thirsty Google research histories.

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What goes on in Romance Writers' heads:
two people meet who hate eachother at first sight, then... they fall in love, they live happily ever after.
Real life: it's not like that
This is a bad thing! ==> Result: RL makes Romance writers a bit bitter

What goes on in Crime Writers' heads: two people meet who hate eachother at first sight, then... maybe one of them ends up killing the other
RL: it's not like that
This is a good thing! ==>Result: RL makes Crime Writers a bit happier.

That's why those people with the blood thirsty Google histories are nice people :-)

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They are interesting conversationalists too. I love going down research rabbit holes, and a deep dive into poisons, weapons, etc. is just plain fun.

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Nice and quiet crime fiction writers have the most blood thirsty Google search histories.
Do nice and quiet romance writers have the most thirsty Google search histories?

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I love YJ as a bundle of contradictions: like he is officially courting her just because he wants his secretary back but flips at the possibility of her dating one-suit-guy (which would already solve that problem), or when he makes fun of her childish book but then buys it anyway; even more so when he is all for doing romantic things to trick her into staying, but when the actual romance happens he runs away and schedules a EKG.

I am ridiculously invested in YJ's well-being, to the point where I feel the need to defend him not just from his slimy brother but even from the uncomplimentary comments of fellow beanies (which never happens). Oh boy

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It is the boy's first romance, and he has shown to be not very good at figuring out human relationships (his best friend calls him "owner," has anyone else noticed this?). Give his royal genius a chance to put his brain to work and figure out what his heart already decided!

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Only noticed the owner thing after you mentioned it... reminds me of brilliant legacy's 주인님 joke for some reason. Now you got me all nostalgic :P

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Just for a little while. Let me stay like this for a little while. From now on, I’m going to be madly in love with you My heart skipped a beat. *squeals in delight*
I was surprised as I never thought he'll tell that to her. It makes me so giddy. :D :D
How is Kim Mi Soo going to respond to this? I eagerly want to know her response and how she will tackle this situation. Since our girl isn't a pervy, we wont get a kiss just yet. :D
I'm curious to know more about his dream. I'm sure it's related to his kidnapping. (I'm so impatient that I want to know everything soon :D )

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That was quite the declaration, but it didn't seem like the kind of thing Young-joon would say. After that, I had to go back and watch all four episodes again to see if he had changed, or if he had dropped character for a moment and it was PSJ shining through instead. I guess his character was consistent enough to that point, but the encounter with his brother shook him up enough to allow his feelings to slip out with someone he trusts. It will be interesting to see whether he owns those words today, or whether he backpedals superfast and confuses her more.

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I will be a grumpy beanie if he backpedals. Because if he does, with his attitude, he will totally take it too far and end up hurting Mi-so. She doesn't deserve to be hurt just so he can preserve his pride.

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If he backpedals, I'll be grumpy too. That could be one of the swooniest lines in the drama-- but it's only swoony if he's committed to listening to his heart. I admit I would've swooned more if we had seen him be more conflicted with his feelings and self-aware prior to that -- I'm worried that it's a case of premature declaration (in which case I'll be a teeny bit disappointed with the writer for blowing the timing on such a line).

But I'm with LollyPip in thinking that as nice as the big grand gestures like fireworks shows and fancy dinners are, I think I prefer Young-joon when he’s doing small, thoughtful things for Mi-so, so I'll swoon enough if he keeps being sweetly thoughtful.

Btw, what's up with my spellchecker not recognizing the word "swoony"? That's a VVIP word!

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Yeah, also the word "oppa" as in handsome oppa Park Seo-joon. Come on, I want all those time back un-autocorrect myself!

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Being a Narcissistic person he always hurts her by saying things which he doesn't mean too like for instance her being beautiful. He found her beautiful but contradicted himself. I wish to see how his layers of pride comes off.

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Me too especially since Miso, from the past episodes, has carved this image of Youngjoon who is unable to love anyone else because he loves himself too much. When the time comes that he finally opens up and shows that he really truly cares for other people and willing to let go of his ego, I will be rooting for him even more. I can already see myself swooning hard when he does not go back on the things he says to Miso, which we know come from deep inside his heart.

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He doesn't want to accept his own feelings. He might say this kind of romance you wanted? but he'll backpedal.

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That's a good analysis--he's super emotionally vulnerable, sitting on Mi-So's bed and just gets caught up in the moment.

I am actually looking forward to him trying to backpedal this. Or, better yet, pull back knowing he needs to have a more subtle tactic, as he slowly tries to win her over for real.

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Hmm, as long as he is careful about how he backpedals, I would appreciate him thinking more about what he just said.

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I so love it when Youngjoon blurts out things we know are real, which he contradicts after. The expression of Seojoon each time it happens is pure gold. Hilarious.

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Pure hilarious.

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I dearly love the cycle of feels that I get from this show, in which Young Joon blurts something and then I get all cringe-y for him. I could do it all night! 😊

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OMG, I felt like I would almost die that I couldn't have episode 5 at that instant!

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Now I'm dying to comment on ep. 5. What an ending!

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aieeee, me too!!! That was cuh-razy 😝!

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The ending was epic. :D
Eagerly waiting to watch episode 6.

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Thanks @LollyPip for an insightful review and recap.

So I hope Young-joon was paying attention when she read the book passage about wanting to be with someone who takes away her weariness, because up until now, he’s unfortunately been the source of it. I think that was a huge clue as to what Young-joon needs to do if he truly wants to win Mi-so’s heart — become a man who makes her life easier, not harder.

This is the crux of our cute narcissist's problem. He thinks he's so perfect that he might not admit he causes others difficulties. On top of that, Mi So has served him practically hand-and-foot for years with a smile, never showing that she was tired. I wonder if getting Young Joon to independently realise that he is the source of her tiredness will be entirely possible. He will probably need some help from an external source or Yoo Shik. Or hopefully Mi So will one day feel free enough to tell him herself, in no uncertain terms! 😋

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What a satisfying growth arc this will be for both our hero and heronie -that he needs to learn to be sensitive to her needs and she needs to learn to draw boundaries!

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I have so many favorite scenes in this episode. That library scene is just wonderful. It is one of those scenes where OTP is hyper-aware of each other and they discover new things about each other. The way Youngjoon looked at his hand and at Miso walking away when they finally exited the building is heart-fluttering.

My fave scene out of all my fave scenes is when Youngjoon went straight to see Miso after that confrontation with Sungyeon. He may not be fully aware of it yet, but I have an inkling that he now knows exactly what that passage in the book meant. His face lit up when he saw Miso and that just made my heart swell.

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Yes, what could say more about his feelings for her than that he went straight to her for comfort.

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He looked like he was learning about her even before the library though. As they walked through the art center and she handled all the issues that were popping up, he seemed to realize exactly how capable she was, and that he had stopped noticing. And he also seemed to be really proud of her. Knowing they have 9 years of working together, and she made mistakes in the beginning, to him, it must seem like a massive accomplishment for her.

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I think that, just as their senses were sharpened by the dark, YJ's appreciation of MiSo is heightened by the threat of her leaving. He's more aware of everything she's meant to him and what they've been through as he thinks about her not being there. And he's more open to recognizing her talents which he's probably been taking for granted for a long time.

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I agree. I would not be surprised if all this time up until Miso said she is leaving, Youngjoon thought she is going to be around for a long time, especially since she never once complained about her work. She is so efficient, effective, and talented that he already depended too much on her and then she decides to leave.

However, I don't think he was entirely not aware of how good she is. Like you said, now he's become more aware of some things about her and getting to know new things as well. These two have fallen in a comfortable working relationship that they missed a lot about each other. In terms of work, they can pretty much read each other. They even brag about knowing each other well by virtue of nine long years together. But we know that is not true! So here is to more getting-to-know-you moments with a sprinkle of swoony ones. Hehe!

is status quo was shaken

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Yes, here's to that!

And also, being as self-centered as he is, he likely sees what she's accomplished as extensions of himself, his efforts and his talents. Everything happens because of him, you know. Only the prospect of her disappearing forces him to recognize that she is indeed a separate entity.

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@bbstl Oh man, I did not realize that I have a misplaced phrase in my comment. Haha Darn it! I am using my phone to type. Sorry about that.

I agree with what you said of how Youngjoon probably somehow originally thought that Miso is good at what she does because of him. The way I see it, they both helped each other. Youngjoon helped Miso by giving her the support and training she needed. However, Miso also helped make sure that Youngjoon can do all his work by giving it all in her job.

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Thanks for the recap! We got a lot more family drama this episode...to be honest, I don’t mind the brother stuff yet. It’s much more tolerable to me than the whole forgotten childhood best friend thing.

One thing I do love so far is having a female lead that is so smart and capable, instead of bumbling. Mi-so is such a great character and it’s totally believable how all the men around her seem captivated by her - and on that note, I cannot get over the way that Young-joon stares at her. If the entire drama was just him staring at her and then the occasional awkward or petty moment I would still be totally entranced.

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Youngjoon's love stares are love. His epic dilemma with his heart is so fun to watch. Haha!

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I already hate the brother can we ship him off to an island or something and let the leads just be cute in their own bubble. That aside I liked how this episode showed us Young Joon’s real feelings start to crack and that ‘heart beat’ scene had me bawling with laughter he’s just the cutest thing ever. Even though I kinda predicted that ending I liked the addition of him not letting her go to this time, but we all know it’s not gonna last long

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hashtag me too..... (sorry, this is not to belittle what that hashtag means)

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Maybe they should put out a disclaimer: Please don't attempt this with your office mates until and unless you have consent or you are Park Seo Joon in the drama.
I know this discussion in the last episode thread, the scenes are wonderful but maybe the shows should start making asking for consent also cooler.

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Asking for permission is the sexiest. Take note drama writers!

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Consent is sexy af! Because This Is Our First Life had me squealing when Ji-ho and Se-hee asked each other if they could hug and kiss each other. <3

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I second this, let the lead ask for consent. In case of someone with narcissistic tendencies it will look even sexier.

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Yes! Wholeheartedly agree. So far it's plausible because they have so much chemistry together and all these moments together were "accidents"

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Yes. I was swooning, but my husband was saying: “That would be harrasment.” And he’s totally right. The power imbalance here is stark, and in another situation, the secretary wouldn’t be able to say no even if it’s unwelcome. So, the hug on the bed in another less innocent drama could be seen in a totally different light.

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I may be weird but i never swoon when a guy grabbed the hands of the girls on a drama and like you my husband never failed to cry "harrasment" everytime he saw that. Haha!

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I'm mortified to think of the behaviors I've swooned at over the years in kdrama that irl I'd advise a friend to report to the authorities 😱 or respond to with a big shove, myself. Gah, why is that?

But irl, I certainly hope a Secretary Kim's boss would never get so far as to be in a position to harass her from anywhere inside her own house, much less her bedroom.

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This x100! My gateway drama was Moonlight Drawn By Clouds. I was floored by how the hero always paused at every turn to allow her the opportunity to accept (or otherwise). A king, who can legally have any woman forced to subject herself to him, chooses to respect the woman he loves by allowing her the option to say no.

It made me binge watch all other Park Bo Gum dramas and, 6 months later, here I am, fully entrenched in dramaland! Consent is indeed sexy!

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That’s a good gateway drama!

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Now that I’ve watched more shows, I'm not sure if the gateway was the drama or maybe it was just Park Bo Gum 😅😝

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Also, a great gateway “oppa!” But really, MDBC is my second favorite drama and PBG my second favorite actor. So you’re in good company! And also, welcome to DB!

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Now as I made a conscious decision to not pay attention to other things let me fan girl over Park Seo Joon. He is so adorable. I don't want the second lead (did they run out of older actors to cast) to trouble our cute CEO. Can we forget about him?
And Park Seo Joon's smile .....

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Park Seo Joon did wonderful things with his eyes in that entire library scene.

Love the underlying spunk and thinly-veiled snark in Mi-so’s polite exchange with Lee YoungJoon. Girl knows how to shade.

The brothers’ relationship reminds me a bit of the brothers in “Dinner at the Homesick Restaurant:” (1) they have vastly different memories and interpretation of their childhood, and (2) SungJoon seems like the type of creepy older brother who would pursue a girl just to spite his brother.

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Sung-joon also seems the type who is not used to women not liking him back immediately, so he does not handle rejection at all. I worry about how he might react if Mi-so tries to make it clear she doesn't like him that way.

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That scene with Mi So's light in her face in the library was hilarious and I loved how she handled Ji Ah's mishap by not getting overly angry but correcting her and then asking for Morepheus' book to lighten the tension. Hee she's very cool.

The 2 brothers have so much unresolved tension and honestly his family should make them get therapy or create an open space to talk to each other instead of setting up lunches together. I'm not warming up to the brother at all and I don't find him as endearing as Young Joon. I mean he ties random people's shoelaces and then pesters them for a phone number. Ugh no.

I am confused why it's Secretary Kim's job to plan the opening of the library when she's only a secretary at this very huge company. Shouldn't it be handled by the planning team because the company is such a conglomerate and has so many employees (as evident by the sports festival).

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I am not surprised. For sure it is her boss' responsibility, but because she is so capable, he gives her the hard work,and it seems to be something that happened in the past many times. LOL😂

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We've seen that she is more than a secretary when it comes to dealing with Young-joon, but we are also seeing that Mi-so is an integral part of the management team. She's a great manager, and does it so seamlessly that the repercussions of her resignation will affect much more than just Young-joon. He's perfect, in person and as a boss, because of her.

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I agree. Youngjoon is perfect and a huge part of that is Miso by his side.

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No wonder he's willing to give her a car/ other perks. She's unbeatable in competence!

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Park Min-young's horror flick sinister smile is priceless, with a perfectly timed scared-out-of-my-wits Park Seo-joon scream. Now I really want to see them in a fantasy horror drama 😆

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Yes! Something alone the lines of Master's Sun but more light and funnier. I can already imagine Young Joon as nicer Ji Sub (whose iconic catchphrase was "get lost").

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Don't look for logic in corporate structure (or in anything legal) in a kdrama. The story just needs the vice chairman's office responsible for M&A to also create art museums, righty-o 🙄 You know, like they do. They probably supervise the employee cafeteria menus as well and next will bust a shakedown scheme from a kimchi monopoly 🤣

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Sometimes a title is only a title. In reality Mi-so is more Young-son's partner rather than a true subordinate-.

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I think this drama wants to portray the efficiency of Secretary Kim as the most trusted right-hand 'man' of the boss, hence all the important tasks she has to handle.
In real life, a PA/Secretary should coordinate the tasks (especially for important events) and get regular updates from those in charge but all information must be up to date in case the boss wants an immediate update. If he/she is so good at everything, there's no need to hire other managers.

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I actually haven't found yet any reason to believe the brother is evil. He bullied his little brother when they were children but that what usually older brothers and sisters do (well, I am a third child, so I know a little). Usually siblings develop more affection when they grow mature, unless they really have loving parents and guidance since they are small (we didn't have that), but anyway, even without so much parental concern, siblings grow fond of one another, unless really something so traumatic happens.
But even without the childhood references and their possible kidnapping event, their antagonistic behavior does not make me think the brother is evil. Selfish, competitive and even unfriendly, yes, arrogant as well, but not yet evil.
We will have to find out...

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I had a theory on it which I posted as a comment. But I think that one of the reasons they grew apart was due to the elder brother's inferiority complex. That can actually break siblings apart

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Agreed. Have you noticed in the dinner scene that JY got all the attention from the parents after he changed topic? He changed the topic not of maliciousness but to skirt his hyung's interest in Mi So. I think that the "incident" caused the parents to freak out about JY and leaving his brother in the cold. On top of the fact that JY is gifted in intelligence which is point of pride for the parents. I think the parents are partly at fault. Anther observation is that the parents are a bit in a rough patch marriage wise. I wonder if that also trickled down to the brothers. I hope JY's brother doesn't stoop to the level of hurting his brother in trying to snag Mi So. It's interesting to note that JY's brother wanted his brother to find love but he seems to want to be the wedge that will disrupt JY's discovery of his feelings for Mi So. Can't wait for the next eps.

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Guys maybe it is just the fact that I don't wan't Lee Tae Hwan to be the bad guy but I feel that we can't talk about his character unless we get more of their back story. It's just my theory but I think Sung Yeon was very insecure of his brother being more intelligent and skipping grades (I can partially understand that as an elder sibling) and in his insecurity he was extremely unfair to his brother. I think Sung Yeon's role in "that incident" was more of an accident. Kind of like he wanted Young Joon to get punished but an accident happened and things happened which he had no intention of happening. And then as a punishment he was somewhat ostracized which he took very personally and could not ever recover from. So in a way he feels that even though his pain wasn't bigger, it didn't deserve to be treated like nothing. So in a way he blames his brother from taking attention from him and his resultant loneliness.

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I would love that the plot thickens as in your excellent theory, than just a terrible person/bad brother/love competitor of a second lead.

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Exactly. Also I think he's a famous romantic author because maybe he understands loneliness and yearning for someone's affection and attention, especially if its meant only for him

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I really can't take Tae Hwan too seriously in his manipulative evil hyung role, so I also came up with a theory like yours. It would make the drama much less stereotypical and more heartwarming, and give the brothers a chance to reconcile without having leftover harsh feelings. I hope the writers do take it in that direction.

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I think this drama won't have anyone that evil cos it's like a feel-good light-hearted series (kinda like Fight My Way - i don't recall anyone giving evil vibes from beginning until end of the show).
Maybe it's some small sibling rivalry causing some serious misunderstanding resulting in major childhood trauma for all concerned.
Nevertheless, i hope the jealous brother won't take too much precious screen time. Waiting for another episode is real torture.

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I've already read the webtoon. It just make me falling deeper into this drama.

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Mi-So will have two options:
1. Trying to figure out if YJ is manipulating her emotions to keep her as his secretary or has real feelings for her which makes her confused and uncomfortable; or
2. Falling hard for SY when she realizes that he is her favorite romantic author whose novels push all her emotional buttons.

Option 2 is most likely to happen because SY will agree to do the book concert on the condition MS goes out on a date with him. This will lead to a sibling rivalry over MS' affections. SY dating MS would be the catalyst to change YJ's stubborn, self-centered personality. But the friction between the two brothers could turn off MS on both of them.

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It's very possible that Mi-so would date SY, but not for long. The romantic aura around him as a writer would wear off fast, and then she would realize that the fangirl feelings she has for him are nothing compared to her feelings for Young-joon.

Young-joon obviously sent Mi-so on a long errand and asked her to use the stairs instead of the elevator to keep her out of SY's sight. But wasn't it strange that SY brought it up in the coffee scene - why are you keeping her away from me? Are you afraid I'm going to date her? First, why would he expect to meet his brother's secretary? And second, why would Young-joon have any reason to think his brother would date her? Was there something underlying that conversation or was it just poorly scripted?

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That felt like a super-long jump to "are you afraid I'll date her" but I can't help thinking there's more history than we know yet, like that one of the men (SY, I think) is the oppa in her childhood book.

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I don't know, but SY does think YJ should forgive him so I don't think it could be related to the trauma/nightmares of YJ. It could be as simple as SY once stealing away YJ's first girlfriend causing YJ to repress the pain of that rejection to the point of solely focusing on being a brilliant scholar and businessman.

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Please.... No... I won't like it if Mi-so date SY (even for a little bit) but can forgive her if she date him without knowing his real identity.
She should remain loyal to Young-joon especially if she were to know they're brothers and YJ did share how he felt about his brother.

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Need to get to work so can't say much, but this show makes me happy.
I literally will get a smile on my face when I get off work and realise it is a Wednesday and a new ep will be up.
I too wonder about the brother. We , in a way, just have Young-Joon's perspective on him. Maybe the man is not the bully the child was, which doesn't make him a good man but maybe not as sinister as he is starting to feel. I can see where the parents might cater to YJ because he is the youngest, closed off, and was bullied and had no real friends. Then older brother sees that as favoring him.
I love the little moments of intimacy and ease between our main couple. Like when she was berating him for getting hurt.

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I have really come to enjoy her nagging at him. It seems to make him happy, that she cares enough about him to nag. But that she feels comfortable to nag at him, really comes from the way she views him as somewhat childish. If he realizes this, it might shock him for a moment, before he decides to roll with it and try to change her mind, lol.

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I like when their comfort level with each other is exposed.
How he can be so arrogant and childish but also loveable is kind of amazing. Kudos to the actor for sure.

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Look I am not at all interested in the brothers storyline or even the childhood trauma. However the trauma seems to be mutually shared by our OTP, so I can be on board with ‘things that happened in the past that bring people together’ trope. Give me more of the adorablness and the cuteness and the petty jealousies! And the sound effects just kills me! How cute are they?

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I'm guessing the whole broken sibling relationship may be taking on such a huge role in the plot because it holds key to Young-joon's narcissism.

For those who are unfamiliar with Ovid's Narcissus story, one reason Narcissus fell in love with himself is because he couldn't get the love he craved (from his mother). Young-joon's relationship with his parents seems fine, but he was bullied very badly by his peers in school, and despised by his brother, for being too capable. So it's possible to draw a parallel conclusion that his self-love is a way of overcompensating the lack of acceptance from them.

If this turns out true, then it makes sense that the brothers need to work out their problems in order for Young-joon's relationship with Mi-so to work. My only concern with the plot skewing towards the brothers' competition over Mi-so is how Mi-so's own search for her identity will fit in. I hope it won't be edged to the periphery.

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Wow- I am not the only one here who has read Ovid? Very great point here. I agree that that we have enough back story now to understand that Young-joons 'narcissism is simply a defense mechanism (is their such a thing as "Pseudo-narcissism?"). In reality Young-joon is not that self-centered- he is in fact task-centered and the seeming narcissism only comes out when he has an emotional need for it. But I no longer think that Mi-so needs to find herself- In the end I think she will say something like "Find myself? I didn't know I was missing". She will find that she has an extremely strong self-identity- and what she was lacking was a fuller life- the things she says she is actually looking for are husband, children, etc.

If she needed to find herself she would be booking a flight to India or Tibet.

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While I thought that Park Seo-joon totes out-emoted Lee Tae-hwan by a mile last week, I actually really appreciated Lee Tae-hwan's performance of a selfish, self-serving brother (or however his actions are coming across as). Sung-yeon is a pretty sad person to begin with, and I like that Lee Tae-hwan plays him as a petulant child. Because that's totally what he is--he's angry and upset at everything because nothing revolves solely around him. At least that's what he thinks, because I'd love to be a top-selling author with a pseudonym that vaguely hints at ~stuff~. Also with the knowledge of how Sung-yeon turns out to be in the webtoon, I'm looking forward to what Lee Tae-hwan will bring in the future episodes.

Our main couple: adorable, perfect, please always be cute. Also Young-joon's cut on the lip looked terribly convincing, for some reason.

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I think that you are right- Older brother actually acts more like a true narcissist than his younger brother. Even his declaration that he has come to forgive him is essentially narcissistic.

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The mystery is very intriguing. It is obvious that the kid MS is looking for is her boss. I think the case got hidden to avoid bad publicity for the company and that is why MS lost trace of her oppa.
Maybe the brothers were together and SJ left his younger brother behind to save himself? That might have caused dad not to trust him in leading the company? Plus YJ seems to hide his PTSD from everybody and that might be the reason why he does not let women touch him or sleep with anyone.

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I would like this show much more if the main OTP wasn't so naive. I'm not even sure naive is the right word, innocence isn't directly related to sex. Am I really supposed to believe Kim Mi So is this gorgeous, resourceful, nice woman but she never dated, not even once, because she was busy? If she has some kind of trauma, like somebody said, that will be better, but if doesn't, I'm calling it lazy writing. Somebody might say she was just unconsciously attracted to her boss but still doesn't seem likely. She also seems so practical, yet she would just quit without having any plan. Nothing besides getting married, like it's that simple.
On his side I find it a little more convincing because he is traumatized by something but still, why would he consider himself so perfect if he is a 30 year old virgin who can't have a relationship?
Instead of exploring any of that, drama of course relies on small bruises and falls so they can have staring contests. So romantic.

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Well I know someone who's pretty and sort of perfect at her job and pretty popular, but stays single for a very long time because she said she doesn't have time to be dating anyone and she doesn't want any commitment as she's focusing on her career. I think it's the same case with Secretary Kim which I find it believable.

About quitting her job w/o plan, I think it's because she's been working so hard to pay off her family's debt and her sisters' tuition fees. Now that she's debt free, she's finally wants to find something new in her life, which is a carefree or reckless life which something she'd never experienced before.

About Young Joon, his definition of perfect is about his look and his work. Not being able to have a relationship is not imperfection to him as he chooses to live that way.

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except you're working hard to justify that the rare unicorn exists. the writers are being lazy here, trying to create characters that aren't realistic.

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Nice to know I'm not the only one that finds them unrealistic. I mean, I know it's romcom but they could give them just a few touches that would improve them.

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I ain't working hard to justify that the rare unicorn exists. I know someone who has such character, which is why I said it's believable. Even if you do not know anyone which such trait, just acknowledge that every human has his/her unique character. Just because you've never met one, doesn't mean that such person does not exist.

This drama is a simple and rom-com drama, so I don't think the writers are being lazy. As a viewer, I don't need a complex character for this kind of drama. Simple is sometimes nicer and better.

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