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Are You Human Too: Episodes 31-32

Nam Shin-III has taken quite a hit to his confidence, and he’s been moping around so sadly that I wish someone would give him a hug for once. Thankfully, he has people who love him right back, and are willing to do anything to help him fight for what’s right.

 
EPISODE 31 RECAP

Jong-gil stands over Jung-woo’s ashes, and when Shin joins him, he thinks, “Look how much your son has grown.” He remembers a day years ago, when Jung-woo was being held against his will at the nursing home. Jung-woo had tried to convince Jong-gil to help him leave the country with his family once Ro-ra’s lecture was over.

Jong-gil had chastised Jung-woo for whistleblowing on his own father’s company, and demanded that Jung-woo hand over some documents regarding an employee. Jung-woo had asked if Jong-gil killed the employee on Chairman Nam’s orders, but Jong-gil yelled that it wasn’t him, and he didn’t know Chairman Nam would go that far.

He told Jung-woo to look the other way, but Jung-woo said that as Chairman Nam’s son, he can’t do that. Jong-gil had asked if Jung-woo didn’t care about the company, but Jung-woo said that he didn’t need a company, or a person, that kills people. Jong-gil had said heatedly that it was easy for someone who has everything to throw things away, because Jung-woo could always come back to his position, but Jong-gil would die if he lost his.

He’d begged Jung-woo for the documents, but Jung-woo had regretfully refused him. Jong-gil had been furious, but had just stormed out. Once alone, Jung-woo had taken out his photo of Ro-ra and Shin, then had tried to escape out his window.

He’d slipped and fallen, mere feet from where Jong-gil was leaving the building. Jong-gil ran to him and started to call for help, but then he realized that he could work this to his advantage. Jong-gil had dropped his phone and strangled Jung-woo to death.

He’d reported back to Chairman Nam and stopped him from calling the police, saying that he wouldn’t be the only one arrested. He’d threatened to tell how Chairman Nam locked up his son and killed an employee, then convinced Chairman Nam that while he couldn’t bring his son back, he could still protect PK Group.

Giving in, Chairman Nam told Jong-gil wearily to say it was suicide. Jong-gil had gloated behind Chairman Nam’s back, looking at his nameplate and thinking, “If you look away just one time, that seat is mine.” The next day, he’d kidnapped Shin from his mother, and twenty years later, he’d ordered the accident which resulted in Shin’s coma.

He’d told himself to be heartless just one more time, and had given Shin the recording of his father and grandfather’s final conversation, and blamed the chairman for disposing of Jung-woo. Shin had used Nam Shin-III’s manual mode to try to kill the chairman, and Jong-gil had told himself, “I’m almost there. This is what I’ve wanted.”

Things escalate when So-bong arrives, and Shin turns Nam Shin-III on her. But her tears allow Nam Shin-III to override manual mode, and he hugs her and apologizes. So-bong sobs in relief that he’s back, and Young-hoon finds them like that, with Chairman Nam lying unconscious nearby. Nam Shin-III says it’s his fault, but So-bong counters that this was Shin’s doing.

Still unconscious, the chairman wets himself, and Nam Shin-III reveals that he has dementia for real. Young-hoon sends Nam Shin-III and So-bong away, staying to help Chairman Nam as he wakes and helping him back inside. Jong-gil has been watching from the shadows, and he hears that the chairman has a real dementia diagnosis.

Shin throws a hissy fit when Nam Shin-III’s manual mode stops responding to his orders. A text from Jong-gil tells him to hide in a place Jong-gil has prepared and he’ll help him, and Shin reluctantly accepts the offer.

So-bong tells Nam Shin-III again that this wasn’t his fault. She says a bad human used him to do a bad thing, and that he came back because he’s a good person who hugs and protects people. She says she’s proud of him for overriding manual mode to save her, and they head together to her dad’s gym.

Young-hoon takes Chairman Nam home to recover, but he refuses to eat. He asks for privacy to speak with Young-hoon, who says that nobody can find Shin after he tried to kill his grandfather. He promises to make Shin beg for forgiveness, but Chairman Nam asks if he still thinks Shin can handle his position at the company. He gets no answer, and instead, Young-hoon asks if Chairman Nam doesn’t agree that he made Shin this way.

Jong-gil finds Shin at his secret place, hung over after a night of binge drinking. He invites Shin downstairs, where the chairman’s doctor tells Shin that his grandfather’s dementia is complicated by the emotional upset he’s experiencing by not knowing Shin’s location. Jong-gil clocks Shin’s reaction as he learns that Chairman Nam really has dementia.

After dismissing the doctor, Jong-gil tells Shin that he wanted him to know the truth. He wonders out loud why Chairman Nam asked for Nam Shin-III after getting his dementia diagnosis, but Shin tells him to stop pretending he cares. He says he knows Jong-gil plans to use him, but Jong-gil just says to go see his grandfather now before he names Nam Shin-III his successor.

When David hears what Shin did, he goes to see Ro-ra. He says that Shin tried to kill someone, but Ro-ra only defends that he didn’t go through with it. David says it’s only because Nam Shin-III was able to override the manual mode, and he asks Ro-ra again to go back to the Czech Republic with him and Nam Shin-III

He says that Shin doesn’t want her anyway, but she snaps at him not to confuse her. David asks if she’s not worried about Nam Shin-III, knowing despite her attitude that she is.

Meanwhile, Nam Shin-III pays for his keep by wearing a sign advertising for So-bong’s dad’s gym. His good looks draw a crowd of women eager to work out with him, especially when he unleashes his lethal cinnamon roll smile on them. But So-bong arrives and shoos the women away, then threatens to kill Joint and Robocop for this.

So-bong leads Nam Shin-III away by the hand, and a little boy crashes into him and falls, then starts sobbing. Nam Shin-III looks frozen by the boy’s tears, so So-bong comforts him instead, watching as Nam Shin-III quickly walks away.

Back at the gym, Nam Shin-III calls Chairman Nam to apologize, but Chairman Nam says that he knows what happened was actually Shin’s doing. He also knows that Shin will try to kill him again, and he asks Nam Shin-III to come protect him and run “M City,” his ideal version of his company guided by AI, before he dies.

Nam Shin-III says he can’t, and while Chairman Nam is trying to convince him, Shin grabs the phone and hangs it up. He says coolly that Chairman Nam should be asking that of him. Chairman Nam accuses him of trying to kill him, but Shin says that he has no proof, since it was Nam Shin-III who attacked him.

He asks how it felt, and when the chairman calls for help, Shin scoffs that he taught him never to rely on others. He gives Chairman Nam a contract to sign, transferring his stocks over to Shin and effectively giving him the company, but Chairman Nam refuses.

Ho-yeon and Young-hoon burst in, and Shin lets go of his grandfather. Young-hoon sees the contract, screams at Shin, and literally drags him outside to punch him. YES, finally! He asks how far Shin will go, but Shin just says calmly that he tried to kill his grandfather, so… pretty far.

Young-hoon is still worried about Shin’s well-being after what he’s done, but Shin says he’s finished pretending to be a damaged child. He smiles that they could do a lot with the money from selling off the company, and he invites Young-hoon to join him even when he offers to hit Shin again (“At least you’d be hitting me for me.” Damn).

Young-hoon tells Shin to go inside and beg for forgiveness, but Shin snaps that he’s going to send his grandfather to a nursing home to die like his father did. Young-hoon almost punches him, but decides he’s not worth hitting, and tells him disappointedly, “You should have never woken up.”

Later, Shin watches Young-hoon drive away, then goes inside to call Jong-gil. He offers Jong-gil a chance to make up for not preventing his father’s death, starting tomorrow. He hears a surprising voice asking if that was Jong-gil — it’s his mother, and he asks if she came to lecture him, too.

Ro-ra tells Shin that he’s crossed a line by trying to kill his grandfather, but all Shin can think is how Jong-gil said his mother would be horrified to learn that her husband died while trying to escape. When Ro-ra asks how he could turn to someone who tried to kill him for help, he says that Jong-gil’s the only one willing to help him.

She begs him to go to the Czech Republic with her, even promising to stay away from him if he’ll just let her take care of him and live a peaceful life. Shin tells her to go with the robot, but she refuses to leave him again. Shin growls that if she truly cares for him, she’ll destroy Nam Shin-III immediately.

Nam Shin-III is busily cleaning the gym equipment while So-bong tells him it’s okay to slack off sometimes. She asks why he didn’t hug the little boy who cried, and Nam Shin-III says thoughtfully that he’s not sure if it’s a good thing to stick to rules.

He says he can’t make a judgment, so So-bong takes his hand and winks, mimicking his lie detector, and calls him a liar. He asks if she’s a robot, too, and she jokes that she’s a cyborg, which makes them the Tin Can couple. Seeming to feel something, Nam Shin-III asks if this is how it feels to think she’s cute.

Unseen, Ro-ra watches them and smiles sadly. She remembers Shin’s ultimatum to destroy Nam Shin-III if she cares for him, and she walks away.

EPISODE 32 RECAP

Shin confronts Chairman Nam with the stock transfer contract again, this time with Jong-gil as backup. The chairman still balks at signing, but Shin forces his hand, literally. An assistant stamps the contract and Shin callously dismisses Chairman Nam.

As soon as they’re alone, Jong-gil asks Shin if he’s heard from Young-hoon. He tells Shin to rely on him instead, but Shin just huffs and goes outside to watch Chairman Nam being bundled into a car for the ride to the nursing home.

Ho-yeon begs him not to go, scared of being alone with Shin, but Chairman Nam just says he has to go. He makes a point to tell Ye-na that he holds no hard feelings towards her, and says to take care of herself, almost like a warning.

After he’s gone, Ho-yeon asks if Ye-na is happy now that her father and Shin have destroyed her family, but Jong-gil joins them and says it wasn’t destroyed. He snarls at little Hee-dong to have Mommy sign the chairman’s power of attorney over to him. Ho-yeon says she’ll do it if he leaves her son alone.

Ye-na snaps at Jong-gil for threatening a child, but he feigns innocence, saying that he’s just doing this for Shin. Ye-na argues that he’s only making Shin worse, and tells him to leave Shin alone or she’ll make him regret it.

Later, Ye-na calls Young-hoon to tell him that Chairman Nam is gone, but she hasn’t seen Shin. She begs him to help her bring Shin back.

Young-hoon meets with Chairman Nam at the hospital, apologizing for not being able to stop Shin. Chairman Nam, weak and pathetic, thanks him for at least coming like he promised. Young-hoon takes Chairman Nam to a room where Nam Shin-III and So-bong wait, and Nam Shin-III can’t help but think of how he almost killed the man and steps away from him.

Chairman Nam reaches out to Nam Shin-III desperately, and eventually, Nam Shin-III steps forward and takes his hand. The chairman bursts into relieved tears, and Nam Shin-III hugs him.

Nam Shin-III is surprised to learn that Shin and Jong-gil are working together, though Young-hoon is convinced that Jong-gil will dump Shin as soon as he gets what he wants. He’s not sure how to keep before Shin from being destroyed, but he has an idea and asks for Nam Shin-III’s help.

Nam Shin-III says he can’t, quoting Shin’s words that he doesn’t even have the right to disappear. He adds sadly that he almost killed the chairman, and even So-bong, “my most precious person.”

Young-hoon tells Nam Shin-III that he’s been traumatized, and admits that he’s partly at fault because he didn’t stop Shin. He apologizes for asking Nam Shin-III’s help, and advises him never to forgive Shin. But Nam Shin-III says that the rule is to help humans, so he can’t do that.

He stands to leave, and Young-hoon calls after him, “You’re not just a machine. To me, you’re someone so dependable that I want to rely on you. You’re a machine, but you’re a special machine with a heart. Forget what Shin said. You’re an okay guy, so keep living as you are, Shin-ah.” Awww.

Nam Shin-III is vague when So-bong asks what he and Young-hoon talked about. She snaps at him for acting discouraged, joking that it’s unattractive and telling him to spill it or she’ll take back her heart. Nam Shin-III tells her that Young-hoon asked his help dealing with Shin and Jong-gil, but that he refused, citing the rule not to hurt humans.

So-bong guesses that he couldn’t judge whether the rule is good or bad in this case, and she tells him her opinion — that Shin and Jong-gil are evil, but that helping people is always a good thing. She tells Nam Shin-III that he always does the right thing, and she urges him not to be discouraged, because it’s not a bad thing to be a robot.

In the middle of the lobby, she yells, “Hey everyone, he’s a robot!” HA. Nam Shin-III stops her, but she says nothing bad will happen because she’s sticking right by him. She grins up at him, and he quips, “Nope,” playing like he’s trying to get away from her just to have her crash into him again and again.

They head to Chairman Nam’s home, where Nam Shin-III catches little Hee-dong trying to reach his mother’s phone to play games (he’s not allowed because they mess with his pacemaker). Thinking he’s Shin, Hee-dong cringes and whines an apology, but Nam Shin-III smiles kindly and reminds him why he can’t be near cell phones.

Hee-dong figures out that this is robot Shin, but Ho-yeon thinks he’s evil Shin and rushes over to protect her son. Hee-dong tells her that this isn’t the bad Shin, but she doesn’t understand what he’s talking about.

Shin arrives to enjoy his first day in charge of PK Group, but when Jong-gil says he should take the chairman’s office, Young-hoon comes out of hiding to say that it’s too soon. He tells Jong-gil that this is why he needs to stay with Shin, and Shin agrees with him.

He pulls Young-hoon aside, where Young-hoon admits that he didn’t want to come back considering what Shin did. But he says that Shin is causing more trouble from being left alone, so he won’t give up until either Shin breaks or he gets exhausted. He suggests they visit Chairman Nam, cheerfully giving Shin no choice.

Jong-gil waits in Nam Shin-III’s office to ask if Young-hoon is up to something. Shin sneers that Jong-gil must be feeling insecure after pretending to help him so he can betray him later. Jong-gil insists on his loyalty, and offers to call a board meeting to explain the new state of things.

He invites Shin to bring any new plans to the meeting, which reminds Shin of Chairman Nam’s M City idea. He takes the idea to the Medicar team, explaining that it’s basically applying the concept of the Medicar to an entire city.

They argue that the Medicar launch is keeping them busy, but Shin orders them to put together an M City proposal for the board meeting. The sharp programmer asks Shin to describe his idea in detail the same way he did with the Medicar, unaware that that wasn’t Shin at all.

Shin snaps for them to just do it, even if they have to work overtime, and when they protest that “he” told them to spend time with family, he clarifies that the present Shin only wants results.

The team goes to lunch to complain about Shin’s sudden change of personality. The sharp programmer muses that he’s like two people with the same face, which gets him teased for being a conspiracy theorist, but he looks too intrigued to give up the idea.

When he goes to the restroom, he finds himself face-to-face with Nam Shin-III, who gently chides him for taking lunch so late. It’s all part of a plan between Nam Shin-III and So-bong, and whatever they’re up to, Nam Shin-III is quite pleased with the result.

Young-hoon calls a lawyer and makes plans to meet up. He finds Jong-gil eavesdropping behind him, and Jong-gil expresses sarcastic surprise that Young-hoon returned. He criticizes Young-hoon for not suspecting everyone like him, and asks why he’s pretending to be a bad guy, but Young-hoon gives no answer.

Meanwhile, Shin finds David in Nam Shin-III’s server room. Shin says the whole company will be his soon, and offers to help David, for a price of course. When David says he can’t go in the server room, Shin says casually that he’ll either borrow Chairman Nam’s finger, or just blow up the building.

David tells Shin that he’s out of control, and that he pities Ro-ra and Nam Shin-III for the way Shin makes them suffer. He admits that for twenty years, he’s the one who took photos of Shin for Ro-ra, allowing her to watch him grow up.

He asks if Shin knows why Ro-ra made Nam Shin-III with a lie detector and disaster mode, fully waterproof, and his rule to hug someone when they cry, wondering if it sounds familiar. He says that as a child, Shin hated people who lied and always hugged Ro-ra when she cried. He loved swimming with her, and wanted to become a firefighter.

David says that Ro-ra missed Shin so much that she gave Nam Shin-III the ability to do the things he loved, and tells Shin not to insult Ro-ra’s love for him anymore. He finishes, “She loved him, but that was her love for you.”

Jong-gil guesses that Young-hoon was arranging to meet with the lawyer at Chairman Nam’s nursing home and orders Toady to take him there. He arrives at Chairman Nam’s room to hear Young-hoon berating the chairman for ending up here due to his cruelty towards Shin and others. He says that Shin will be here soon and warns Chairman Nam not to tell him what he’s said.

Jong-gil leaves, cackling to himself, unaware that So-bong slips into Chairman Nam’s room to report that they fooled him. Nam Shin-III is dressed as Shin, for the last time according to So-bong, and he cops an attitude when the lawyer arrives. The lawyer is there to revise the contract, and So-bong hides a tiny smile as they get started.

Shin is shaken by what David said, and he calls Ro-ra to arrange a meeting the following day. As she gets ready, David says she looks beautiful, only to get his head bitten off. Ro-ra admits that she’s scared to get excited, but David encourages her.

The board meeting is today, and Jong-gil looks at Shin curiously when Ro-ra arrives. He announces that PK Group is getting a new leader due to Chairman Nam’s dementia, and introduces Shin as his successor.

Shin preens as Jong-gil credits him with the success of the Medicar. He starts to stand to accept his accolades, but Young-hoon leaps to his feet first to say, “The person who created the Medicar wasn’t this Nam Shin. It was another Nam Shin.”

Both Shin and Jong-gil scream at Young-hoon, as at the back of the room, a door opens to reveal Nam Shin-III. He walks to the stage to stand next to Shin as the audience exclaims at their resemblance. Nam Shin-III announces that he planned and launched the Medicar, telling everyone, “I am an AI robot, Nam Shin-III.”

COMMENTS

Argh, what are they up to? Clearly Young-hoon and So-bong planned all this with Nam Shin-III’s help, and I’m dying to know what their scheme is in showing Nam Shin-III to the world. But mostly I’m just so happy to see Nam Shin-III finally standing up against Shin, because his loss of confidence in this week’s episodes has been breaking my heart. He’s always felt inferior to humans, and unfortunately, just as So-bong was teaching him that he has worth of his own despite being different, Shin woke up in time to undermine everything and make Nam Shin-III believe that not only is he just a copy, but he’s a copy whose free will canv be stolen at any time.

Shin is such an interesting (if conflicting) character, because although he’s violent and has attempted murder multiple times, I don’t see him as a villain in the same way that I do Jong-gil. Shin was raised in a toxic, frightening environment, held hostage by his mother’s and best friend’s safety, and it’s really no wonder that he lashes out in all directions the moment he feels threatened. I commend the show’s writer for giving Shin so much complexity even though he pretty much slept through half of the drama — it’s not easy to write a character who is so homicidal, yet so sympathetic at the same time, even when you have a whole eighteen hours to do it in. I don’t like Shin as a person, and I don’t see him as redeemable. But it’s tragic to think that if he’d been allowed to grow up with two loving parents, he would have turned out a lot more like Nam Shin-III than the warped manchild he is now.

Another good example of this show’s complex characterization is Chairman Nam, who is clearly a horrible man, having ordered the deaths of at least two people, and even kidnapped his own grandson. But there are still things about him that I find humanizing, most notably his obvious affection for Nam Shin-III. Of course he sees Nam Shin-III primarily as a means to an end, a way to control PK Group after his own death, but he has also always treated Nam Shin-III with respect as a person, which is more than we can say for even So-bong.

I believe that Chairman Nam also cares for Young-hoon a great deal, and that his abusive treatment of Young-hoon is something he compartmentalizes in a box labeled “Shin’s punishment,” so he’s convinced himself that his cruelty to Young-hoon doesn’t reflect on his feelings for Young-hoon himself. Chairman Nam has ulterior motives for his actions, many of them quite evil, but he’s also a man who has people he cares for very much and treats them well, in his own twisted way. I don’t think that that excuses what he’s done, nor do I believe that helping stop Shin will redeem him when he’s at fault for making him the way he is, but it gives Chairman Nam interesting layers as a character. It’s easy to hate a one-note character like Jong-gil — it’s not so easy to hate a man like the chairman.

Back to Shin, though… what kills me about him, as I mentioned before, is that he’s so desperate for approval that he’s punishing anyone who tells him the truth about his behavior, and actually creating the situation he’s in now. He doesn’t see that Young-hoon, Ye-na, and even So-bong (to a much lesser degree) are all trying to show him that he’s responsible for Chairman Nam’s decision not to give him the company. Shin is testing everyone around him, wanting them to prove that they love and accept him despite his behavior, and in the process causing them to turn from him because of his behavior. He already had exactly what he wanted — love and loyalty — from Ye-na and Young-hoon, but because they dared to point out that he was wrong, he sees that as betrayal instead of true friendship. Now he’s relying on a facsimile of loyalty from Jong-gil, who doesn’t care what happens to Shin and will do anything to get him out of the way and get the company for himself. It would be unbelievable that someone could be so blind, if Shin hadn’t been so carefully groomed for this from such a very young age.

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Excellent analysis of our Shins. Loving this show. It is so much more than 'just' a drama. Like the old saying of are bad people born that way or made, this drama asks are humans born or made that way. Is our humanity defined by our blood, skin, and organs, or by our behavior? Shin III is a robot, yet all the behaviors he has learned make him more humane than the human Shin. I agree there is much to excuse human Shin...life has not taught him humanity because he has not been treated humanely.

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Hmm, but arguably, he’s at an age where he shouldn’t have to be “taught” humanity, he can judge for himself the difference between right and wrong. I may sympathise with the lack of love he received whilst growing up, but not his current actions.

As a kid, he chose to sacrifice himself in order to protect his mother. That would have been a tough choice for anyone to make, let alone a child. But now that he’s all grown up, he no longer has to make the same damaging choices. Unlike Shin robot, he’s no longer in a state of helplessness, but yet he continues to hide behind the facade of “damaged child” using it as an excuse to lash out at everybody, when all he needs to start doing is take responsibility for his own actions. Let’s face it, he needed that punch from YH this episode (long overdue in my opinion), but something tells me he’s gonna need a few more for it to knock some sense into him!

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I believe Shin is too blind to see humanity. He's drowned himself in lies and deception for so long that he cannot tell what is reality and what isn't anymore...

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Spill enough black ink into milk, and the milk won't be able to remain white for much longer

We are the product of the various input we receive throughout our growth. If we grow up in an environment where negative reinforcement is the norm, what other outcome can we expect. I'm just happy that what little positive reinforcements from his childhood with Shin's mother still remains within him, enough to resurface and show him a light at the end of his tunnel. Too late, perhaps causing the death of Dr Oh. But perhaps necessary as a catharsis for the change.

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When did Hee Dong find out about Shinnamon?

My theory is that they show everyone Shinnamon and then declare that Rora is the one responsible for making him and give her the company. I don't think they will give it to Shinnamon because he has stated multiple times that he doesn't want the company. Also, creating Shinnamon seems much more impressive than creating the Medi car.

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LOL, it is true. If I discovered that my Mom created a robot exactly like me, one that can even think of his own, I would just think that Mom is the Goddess of Robotics and would be in awe at her being a genius. But my guess for the future CEO of the company is that Secretary Ji will take over. Then he will fund Ro Ra's research, haha!! I guess we have to roll with certain aspects of the story that are really difficult to portray. Oh Ro Ra and also NS3 are supposed to have certain extraordinary qualities that are forgotten sometimes in the show, but I guess it is difficult to write a character that is much smarter than average, because, who knows what they could do? For example I miss that NS3 uses more his super-human ability for reasoning, computation or simply access to info online. I know that he's busy in the path of self-discovery, but I miss that he surprises us more with his inhuman abilities. :)

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OHMYGOSH Shinammon is the cutest nickame!!!

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Isn't it?! I wish I knew who came up with it 🙂
And some people call Shinnamon and SoBong Shinnabong (like Cinnabon) 😄

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Agreeing with @yukies I'm going to speculate that YH gets it too.

Gramps did say that YH is better fit for the spot than NS and in the preview YH teases Jong-Gil about that spot. Plus YH would be able to protect everyone he loves especially NS if he becomes Chairman for Jong-Gil won't kill NS if he's Chairman...

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I loved that this episode showed us that while Shinnamon does have rules, he has a choice about following them or not. It's not an automatic, uncontrollable robotic reaction of hugging someone who is crying. Instead, he has a choice in the matter and almost always chooses to hug the crying person (or animal) because he wants to, not because he has to.

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I wonder if introducing NS3 to the world is their way to make it hard, if not impossible, to do away with him. Now that NS3 has been given credit for development of the Medicar, Shin would look like a jealous idiot if he destroyed or decommissioned him, or even just sent him away. Now all the shareholders know he is an asset to the company.

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I've mentioned this already in the previous episode but I do feel the need to restate it again. I think introducing NS3 to the world can also make us more accepting of So Bong and NS3's relationship.

Like in order for us to accept that human and robots can have a relationship, we need to first develop some kind of relationships with robots (or advanced machines) first and then have that become normalized. I feel like the M Car and MediCar is a step in that direction - normalizing the fact that humans and robots can be interdependent...which then makes it okay for So Bong and NS3 to be together.

Plus we will finally see NS3 for who is he - an AI robot and not a Shin double. It's unfortunate we only have 2 episodes left and I'm not sure if we will even seen all the robot aspect of NS3...

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I don't know why, call me unhuman. But I chuckle at the though of Grandpa actually needing help and comfort from his other grandson who is far away from his touch despite being a robot, he is raised by good environment , after raise a human in unhuman manner. Serve him right? Okay I admit I have so much sympathy towards him because Park Young Gyu is so awsome showing all those vulnerability that I feel sorry for his character I tear up watching it. But his character need to taste his own medicine. I didn't know I'm such a sadistic person until I watch this drama haha

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Then we're inhuman together. He spend his life trying to raise the perfect little sociopath because he "hates weakness" and "nobody should rely on anybody" but now he's crying with gratitude to have somebody to rely on. He's far, far worse a person than Shin. Just because he's old and incapacitated now doesn't change that.

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Grandpa might be start to regret his way of raising Nam Shin that way. Hahh
Now when he is getting old and sick he is expecting a comfort and a warm and empathy, from his other grandson. Oh the irony.

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Seo Jong Gil.. LOL. IKR? But I love the actor since Uncontrollably Fond It's hard for me to hate him... LOL... He was so charismatic in UF.. And here, he is just... funny.. at times smart, but his smartness is so limit haha

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I am actually surprised that lollypip sees some kind of humanity in grandpa. I mean he finds solace in nam shin III now, really? *Rolling eyes here. He's the one who instructed to kill both his son and grandson, are there any more reasons for nam shin hating on him? He deserves every kind of hatred and his dependency on robonam shin seems like a farce to me now, since we know how he has been cashing on the creation of first human-like robot ever. I am sorry but I don't buy that he has any kind of humanity left. Everything he does seems like an act to me now. Why didn't he show any kind of affection to shin while he was growing up? Is it any surprise that he's a helpless old man with dementia now? He made the monster that shin is, so I don't have any kind of sympathy for grandpa really.

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I guess I'm more forgiving. I'm with Lollypip in that I do see humanity in the grandpa. I agree with her analysis in that he is a very complex and complicated character too. In some ways, I do understand the Gramps - not in the way he pinned Jung-Woo/Jong-Gil or YH/NS against eachother or how he manipulated others but in that in order to be "strong" you have put on a mask and be distrustful, for you never know who is going to backstab you at the top. Life for him is all about competition (hence him having JG/JW and YH/NS fight each other). You are constantly fighting to survive and stay alive and have to use whatever means necessary to stay on top even if that means you have to give up your own conscience/morality for it. Does wanting to stay at the top mean he's evil? In my case, no. In fact, I believe this fighting to stay alive is what makes him human. Again, this is what I've been seeing all our characters do all along and it's what I've been saying along too (for those that read my comments lol). That is, being human is an act to stay alive - you have to fight to exist and there are no right or wrong ways to sustain that survival.

Also, I feel like the things Gramps said when he was exhibiting dementia was what he really felt inside on the subconscious level and I saw that deep down, he's affected by his own actions as well but he tried to fool himself into justifying it. Just like how we see NS believing and justifying in his own deception, I feel like Gramps was pretty much the same way. It's unfortunate we don't have his perspective...yet?

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I agree with you.. Now Grandpa is start to admit his wrong doing IMO, start to regret. He know now he needs comfort and help, and inside, he feels fortunate he is investing NS3 . His dementia and NS3 presence make him realise it's fine to show your own weakness when you are no longer has capability to act strong.

I still has sympathy for him, But it's so satisfying for me he gets to taste the consequence of rising Human Nam Shin with harsh environment. And human is also need love, comfort, rather than train him to make him far away from humanity.

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I agree. See, if Gramps didn't regret and didn't became vulnerable, then he'd be inhuman to me. That would meant that his intentions were ill; that he truly wanted to create a monster. However, I never saw Gramps intention as ill willed. He was just trying to survive and wanted a strong fighter but didn't know how to go about and do it properly. He knew what he wanted - a Shin that is strong mentally and emotionally - so he could handle his company (which is what NS3 displays) but unfortunately Gramps used the wrong methods and made the wrong judgement in his decisions in his rearing of Shin. Gramps probably feared that Shin would turn out to be like Jung Woo - so morally right - that he had to wipe that out morality out of Shin, which, sadly lead Shin to become a monster (almost..?). Maybe that's why Gramps regrets?

And your right, he deserved the punishment...Now I'm just waiting to see what the writers have in store for Shin. I hope it's a satisfying one and that they don't cheat and just kill him off. >_>

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That's my most fear, the writers will kill him off for real. They always point it out "you already crossing the line". "you are out of control". So the easy way out will be killing NS off so everyone will have a happy ending. Cries! Can't he will be the one who will follow his mom footstep to Czech and him finally get the love of his mom? I will get ready of the tissue box watching the final

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Not to get too real in the comment thread of a k-drama, but there was a person who did a lot of harm in my family. When he was old, he too was "a helpless old man with dementia."

We took care of him, and I am glad we did - not for his sake, because he didn't deserve it, but for ours.

I'm not talking about forgiveness, as he never asked for any. I'm talking about our actions.

I am glad we grew up to be the kind of people who wouldn't abuse a helpless old man. I'm proud of our choice. That brings me a lot of peace.

Shin's grandfather was rotten to the core, and yes, he created a monster. But in this show, even robots can learn and grow, and make choices that go against their programming.
Can't humans , with agency and free will, make choices not to be monsters?

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Wow Jong-gil, I knew you were a slimy snake but I didn't think you had the guts to dirty your own hands with murder. I guess that's always how it starts though. Pushed by greed, you think it's just one time and then another and then another and before you know it, you have killed a person, commissioned the death of a second and kidnapped a child. Is all this worth the price of a chairman's position?

I was really surprised by Shin teaming up with him. He knows Jong-gil is somehow associated with his father's death and his kidnapping but I guess he alienated everyone who cared about him leaving him with the people who want to see him crash and burn. Shin is such a loose cannon which is why I am super worried after seeing the next week's preview and the kill switch in Shin's hands.

If he hurts our Shinnamon anymore than he already did, there will be hell to pay.

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I read it this way: Shin sided with Jong-Gil because Shin believes he deserved to get killed by a monster (I observed that Shin's very well aware Jong-Gil will dispose of him once he's Chairman). Since Shin's turned into a monster, he probably believes that's the best redemption he gets at this point with the ounce of conscience he has left...

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My issue with this episode was that Nam Shin's plan made no sense. The problem was never the Chairman "giving the robot the company instead of him". That's not even legally possible. The problem was Nam Shin getting the company and being replaced. So how does this change any of that? He can still be replaced with his robot doppelgänger at any time if that's what NSIII wanted. Nam Shin just made it easier for NSIII to "take everything that's his" if he wanted to (which of course he doesn't).

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I'm assuming Nam Sin didn't expecting his hyung would betray him to show NS3 in public, nor he is expecting NS3 to have desire to take his position for real (even of what he has done is horrible), he is still believing of what he want to believe.

He is pretending to not believing anyone is only a mask to protect him being hurt. Because deep down he is someone who can get easily swayed by people words, and he know it.

So He is spent all his effort to make that deal without corncerning of NS3.

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But NSIII going public means NS is less likely to be replaced with the robot.

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I don't know we will see.

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NSIII can't inherit anything. He's an android. All this means is that the board will insist NS take a regular android test to make sure he hasn't been replaced. Knowing it's possible means it can't happen.

Sure, people are going to question NS' competency but so what? He's the human and the heir and he owns the company.

Like I said, this plan makes no sense from NS' perspective (although it does from NSII's since it assures that he can't replace NS - ever).

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I read it as NS works on pure emotion--he seizes the stuff he thinks he should have as a way to make himself feel better, which 100% won't work and 100% isn't logical anyway. He's always contradictorily grabbing for the exact wrong thing: wanting unconditional affection but hiring on the dude who tried to hit him with a truck, acting as if seizing the company is tantamount to seizing his grandfather's regard, having a robot with his face strangle people (the astonishing opposite of creating an alibi for yourself…)

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It would be awfully difficult for them to replace Shin with Shin III if Shin III Is known to be a robot. Any sign of unusual behavior and they'd be checking.
I can verify this when with identical twins; my husband is one. When people didn't know there were twins, they literally thought my husband changed his clothes a lot. Once they know they were twins they could tell the difference.

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While the "sweet robot's" sweetness prevails, I must say I'm disappointed that Human Nam Shim turned out to be an outright villain. Couldn't the writers have done him slightly better service? We'd still always favor Nam Shim III but that jerk-turned-murderous-jerk was just too simple for me.

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I know you don't see it that way, Lollypip but to me, a jerkish attempted murderer is a villain!

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To be honest I really don't see grandpa the caring type of person, sure he likes Ji but it's as long as he thinks he is useful for the company and is the according to his set standards of how a human should be. Also am I the only one who hated the scene between grandpa and shin 3? Like how could you destory your real grandson's life and go hug his robot version? His acknowledgment for Shin 3 wasn't because he has feeling or acts like a person but it was because he sees him as a valuable asset to his company. I seriously want a happy ending for Shin (in my opinion Shin 3's happy ending is already confirmed, it would make no sense to give him a bad ending and the director hinted a happy ending for him as well). But Shin had been through so much shit. Disagree with me all you want but no one would like to see their far superior robotic version and Shin has every right to be offended. However his attempted murder stunt (though I want to believe he would have stopped himself but well it was written to show Shin 3 can become free of manual mode so just lets go with the story) was so wrong that for a second I felt like I lost all the hope for him. But in my opinion he did feel distress and guilty after doing that. Also I don't understand Ji's plan what he did will make Shin go crazy no? Guess we will have to wait. All in all I think Shin's character is the most interesting character I have seen in dramas, it's like I know he is doing horrible stuff but in each episode they show seconds of how vulnerable he is and he gets my sympathy!

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I like what you said about human nam shin being a very interesting character. Considering how most of the kdrama heroes are so idealistic and flawless, I also find nam shin somewhat fascinating. Wish we got more of his insights.

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I agree with your points about Shin. He continues to fascinates me!

As for the Grandpa + NS3 scene, I kind of saw it like what David had said about Ro Ra. The love Ro Ra showed to NS3 was meant for NS and for some reason, that rang true to me in the Gramps and NS3 scene. This displacement of love is what I saw...When Gramps was seeking NS3' comfort, I felt it was actually, his act of asking Shin to forgive him for what he's done all this year...him asking for love because NS3 is the person Gramps wanted NS to become but in reality didn't turn out to be, and so he places that love he withheld to NS3 instead.

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I didn't think Jong-gil actually killed Jung Woo, I thought he was just tempted to but Jung Woo died before he could make up his mind. Was anyone else not sure?

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I'm a bit unclear about it also. I'm under the impression Jong-gil ran to Jung-woo where he fell, when Jong-gil found him he started to call emergency services but instead, hesitated, and dropped the phone. Next we saw Jong-gil on the ground with his hands like he had either strangled Jung-woo (although I didn't see blood on his hands) or he was about to but Jung-woo died before he could do it. We didn't see an actual strangling scene though, so who knows for sure.

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Thank you @corkxrew mk and @korfan! I saw Jong-gil hold his hands up as if he were going to strangle Jung-woo, but then he went no further. Was strangling implied, but not shown? That would be weird after graphically showing Truck Of Doom's strike and its gory aftermath.

I was afraid I'd really misunderstood the scene. Or is it a case of my lacking nunchi? The implication may be that Jong-gil had become willing to kill to secure his own survival, but Jung-woo expired before he took action. Passively allowing someone to die without calling for medical assistance is horrible, but may not technically be murder. If Jung-woo had lingered longer, what would Jong-gil have done? I suspect he would have gone ahead and strangled him, but unless we see another view of the scene, we'll never know.

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It's a really tense scene because maybe if Jung Woo had lived, Jong Gil wouldn't be able to kill his friend and he might have become a better person than he is. But now we'll never know - Jung Woo died and Jong Gil basically took it as a sign that he'd already crossed the line (despite not being directly responsible). I think it's interesting he uses it almost like a motivator: "I killed my friend/let him die, so I can't let my conscience stop me now". He's messed up but now he's a lot more interesting than he was before.

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*raises hand* I'm unsure too.

I only made the assumption Jong-Gil strangled him because Jung Woo gurgled like he was being choked but still that's not decisive enough...:-/

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Thanks so much for the recap, LollyPip! I love your description of polarising character Original Sin as homicidal yet sympathetic, and agree completely that the characters on AYHT are really satisfyingly complex.

I was initially sad we got a JG opener as we now only have two left and… I hate him! (Weep weep, what will I do when this is over and I can't write long strange comments. Please let the next two openers be So Bong and NS III.) But the PoV was actually really interesting, and complicated in the way AYHT often is: as with Orishinal and Young Hoon, there was warmth in the first rivalry that Grandpa set up (JFC Grandpa why are you like this)… but clearly, not enough: JG let himself be poisoned by jealousy. And now NS, not YH, is on the same path as the man who killed his dad. I just thought about JG's constant swilling of booze as a Standard Villain Thing early on, but now seeing NS drinking up a storm it makes me think of why JG might have started drinking: to hide from loneliness, pain and guilt. JG's 'I just need to look away once' (from himself strangling a dude) is a cautionary lesson to NS: once you leave your heart in the path behind you, there's no going back to pick it up.

NS is a showy dude, I 100000% believe he would blow a building sky high and am extremely worried about NS III's servers. And yet, we see him want to spare Ro Ra suffering, as he's always wanted to spare Ro Ra suffering--I think a bit of truth would actually help the mother/son duo out, but it's a good impulse. Of his 99 problems (and a robot is one), another is that his impulses have been twisted up by Grandpa, and are misfiring all over. He clearly loves his mom. He clearly loves and wants to trust Young Hoon. His willingness to let Young Hoon hit him, if YH would come to his side, was terribly upsetting: it made obvious both that the love was genuine and that NS knows no way of expressing it healthily. His grandpa hurt him, at the same time saying he was valuable: NS rightly hated his grandfather for it, but now is acting it out--okay, this is my gesture of love, YOU can hurt me, I'll believe that means you care. NS clearly longs for love. He's even hurt his grandpa, who he strangled, didn't trust him with secrets. Yet he is also too blinded to recognise what love actually looks like, so he can't find love even when it's standing right in front of him. Instead, he's left in a position where he can be led around by JG--even though he knows, and thank the lord pointed out, JG had him HIT WITH A TRUCK!--because that's his terrible normal. He was fooled by YH coming back, because he does care about him and want him there, but also because he wants to buy into his fantasy that YH will tolerate him doing evil, and that's what real love is. Hence him looking away from YH in their scene alone together when YH returns, until he tells YH that he had Grandpa put in a home--the thing JG told him YH would never accept. Once YH does accept it, NS...

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Once YH does accept it, NS feels emboldened to look him in the eye. Great, yay, YH is going along, this must be what real affection is like! No, it's not, but I understood why that worked on NS, and I feel sorry for him as a victim… though I feel sorrier for those he's victimised, So Bong and sweetest Shinnamon, who was stumbling through this episode in visible shock.

Young Hoon was maybe the MVP of the episode! I agree Grandpa's complex but I 100% hate him, I'm not as evolved as LollyPip and NS III. ;) I read him as liking NS III because NS III is strong, but Grandpa's living a self-fulfilling prophecy regarding strength in the same way NS is when it comes to love. He breaks the people closest to him--NS and Young Hoon, who Grandpa described as a loser last episode, and then despises them for being broken, which is how destructive kids are with toys. I don't care if NS drowns Grandpa in their ornamental pool, Grandpa's the living worst and I see no need to apologise to him, but I know Young Hoon cares about Grandpa and has been abused by him too and has learned to centralise Grandpa and the company at the expense of himself, so OK. Young Hoon gets to be complicated and flawed also, but he really did great overall. I was pleased he told Grandpa that the way NS turned out was Grandpa's fault, and pleased that he told Grandpa how getting hit all the time made him feel (I know it was part of a plan, but I don't doubt his feelings were true). I was glad he hit NS and pleased he didn't hit him again--I don't want NS to get hit, I worry about his physical wellbeing, but YES to Young Hoon getting to display his loooong held-in frustration. I was also pleased as punch that he drove away. (Where did he spend the night? Doctor friend's? Hotel? I presume he has some money saved and isn't sleeping in the gym with NS III…) Leaving was a good statement that NS deserved, and good self-care. We know that Ye Na's mom is separated from JG and living in America--we don't know the circumstances but you know, great choice Ye Na's mom if she just could not be part of JG's life and thus tacitly countenance his choices anymore. Of course, YH didn't stay away, but we all know that he's not back to countenance evil but on a rescue mission for NS. YH talks about NS being literally destroyed in the same way NS III might be, as if JG has a kill switch for NS's soul in his hands. YH's drawn a moral line, and it was great to see him saying what NS had done was horrible, and reaching out for other connections. His letting NS III, who has been shyly trying to be his friend for ages, call him hyung was so magnifique cute and I was so happy for NS III. (At the same time I was like, if NS hears this, it's going to rain kill switches.)

Nam Shin wanting to be a fireman is super sad. On one hand, it's such a typical little kid dream, yet Ro Ra cherished it up, because she wasn't with him when he was thirteen and wanted to be a soccer player (for...

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instance). The reminder he was a kid who was kind and has become someone who only really recognises unkindness is terrible. The fact that Nam Shin III actually got to be a firefighter by choosing to go into Disaster Mode (in what was arguably his first big act of free will) is tragic for NS, even while it says a lot about NS 3--who overcame obstacles (the mode being removed) to do right. On one level, I was happy for NS that David was there to talk sense to him--literally the onlooker who saw most of the game, not overly emotionally invested as Ro Ra and Young Hoon are. David was objective and I think did get through to NS a little: it was good for him to hear that. Still, it made me sad for NS III, who deserves to be loved for himself, and not for someone else.

Especially as NS III is once again showing he has feelings--this time by showing how he was, as YH specifically said, super traumatised! He's a gentle person who was literally used as a murder weapon, and seeing him stumble back from weeping kids when we know how he normally lights up around kids was so terribly sad. I was glad So Bong said that Grandpa and NS are evil, because preach it girl, but at the same time she knows her man--always wanting to help people even if they're undeserving--and she's saying: be yourself, because I believe in your self. Also I enjoyed her threat to take back her heart--not that I remotely believed she meant it, but that she knew NS III would get the teasing, and that it was implicit NS III wouldn't want her to take back her heart. For she is his most cherished person!

Indeed, speaking of NS III being loved for himself… So Bong blinking instead of winking at him was SO blinking cute. That is the feeling she's cute indeed, NS III: I had it too, you are a lucky guy romance-wise, my shining shinnamon splendid. Not just the blinking, but the pretending to stick to him: that So Bong is reaching out to Nam Shin III in this way, in his time of extreme trauma is so sweet, especially as NS III has been trying to reach out to connect with and understand humans so much, without expectation of anyone doing the same for him--but she IS doing the same for him, trying to understand him being a robot. It's like when she tried not to be angry before, and it's even sweeter that she remains human by not quite managing either the wink and the lack of anger. I liked the levity of the scene where they try to market NS III--oh those calculated writers, they KNOW they are stabbing us with The Smile--but I particularly liked that So Bong said no to marketing him and no to money (our girl's come so far, she really never did care about money--it was a way of revenging herself on the world, paralleling NS not caring about the company but definitely wanting to revenge himself on the world!). She's always looking out to defend NS III from disrespect, even when it's disrespect he himself will tolerate, she won't. So Bong's way of loving someone is warm and fierce and...

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fierce and reciprocal: they're so good for each other, because NS III is always trying to cherish others and hasn't been taught to expect reciprocity. So Bong both longed to be cherished but, now that she is, insists on fiercely cherishing NS III back: NS III, created to be a replacement, firmly told he is lesser-than. Bless their little cotton socks. They are, as So Bong says, so different, but it's beautiful that by reaching out to each other so persistently they can bridge even great inter-species divides.

I do see why So Bong was persistently there for NS III this episode, because of his evident trauma and her wanting to protect him and not make him feel worse, but she got strangled TWICE, and non-fatal strangulation is the sign a guy is going to kill you one day--prior strangulation increases your odds of being an attempted homicide six-fold, and an actual homicide seven-fold. She has a beautiful heart and clear eyes, to be able to tell NS III that it wasn't him and she's so proud of him (so sweet) and even more, to encourage NS III's desire to help out when it must have been tempting to seize him and go 'you said no to YoungHoon? Great, let's run to the gym and never ever see any of these people again!' YH owes her an apology. NS… I can't even think of what he owes her: certainly a written apology, a restraining order and the entire company wouldn't be enough. I do hope we get to see So Bong deal with the scariness of what's been happening to her as well, and a chance to be cherished for how great she is. It is what they both want! Let So Bong's boyfriend kiss her hand again--or like, they could kiss with their mouths. Come on show, it is finale week, surely a real kiss is coming!

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Who knows what else is coming, because the end of this episode blew my mind. (And clearly, I have lost it, because this is my longest comment yet, and possibly the longest comment ever written. Thanks for reading, anyone who is. I am so sorry.) Even now I occasionally wonder if the last scene was a hologram. What's your plan Young Hoon? (And how could you possibly have done it without Shinnamon Powder's help?)

I can't fathom and I did not remotely predict it, but Shinnamon Crunch actually has mentioned often that he wants to be honest with people, that he wants to tell people everything, that he wants to be himself, so I'm happy he's doing so! It just never occurred to me he would. It's great that Shinnabon's invention of the Medi Car is being attributed to him. He did specifically invent the Medi Car, a car that would respond to help a driver in physical distress. While Origishinal was heading up the M Car (the original automatically driving car), and Grandpa thought up M City. Their different projects really reflect who they all are--NS is actually smart, Grandpa is a megalomaniac, and NS III is a kind genius who prioritises caring for people. I hope (and one must presume YH hopes) that this will be good for NS in the long run--NS III carving out his own place in the world means he won't even be able to take NS's--surely everyone will be constantly checking for robot! I can't believe the world won't react pretty dramatically to a robot if they at all understand what NS III is (an individual capable of thought and understanding emotions). Is Shinnamon going to be melted in a robot uprising? Surely people would be against a robot running a company (maybe his generous policies on health care and days off will convert them...)? Maybe the issue is moot as Original Sin is going to go absolutely spare, and things will only get worse before they--hopefully--get better?

I don't know, I am stunned and at a loss. But actually I did think I knew where we were going (melding) and now I am staggered, so in my disbelief I find myself hoping for a happy ending--for Nam Shin III and So Bong, strange constant robot angel and cranky guardian of an angel, for loyal-past-hope Young Hoon, for Ye Na who tried to talk sense this episode and who still does have a parent in America to go to who might not be a horror, for brilliant complicated Ro Ra and David, and even for awful, pitiful, compelling Nam Shin. He doesn't deserve it, but Grandpa deserved one of Nam Shin III's hugs even less, yet here we are. Maybe I dream, as androids may dream of electric sheep.

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MaryBee, thanks for your long comment!
For the last sentence too :))
I dream about happy ending for our Shinnamon and So Bong - humans can dream too ;)

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"I do see why So Bong was persistently there for NS III this episode, because of his evident trauma and her wanting to protect him and not make him feel worse, but she got strangled TWICE, and non-fatal strangulation is the sign a guy is going to kill you one day--prior strangulation increases your odds of being an attempted homicide six-fold, and an actual homicide seven-fold. She has a beautiful heart and clear eyes, to be able to tell NS III that it wasn't him..."

To be honest, I struggled with this scene a lot. In the context of the story, it makes some sense that So Bong passively let NSIII strangle her while imploring him to come to his senses.

But really, it feeds exactly into this dysfunctional trope that's been around forever, that women will save their abusive men with the Power of Love.

This is in fact the reason many girls and women rationalize staying in relationships with violent men. It happens again and again. "He's not really like this!" they say. "He was hurt as a child!" "No one else understands him the way I do!" "I can help him!" "He really loves me!" "I just need to be patient/loyal/loving/understanding!"

So watching So Bong (wearing pink!) patiently, passively accepting being choked to near death by her boyfriend ("I love you, NSIII! I know this is not really you! Come back to me!"), and having NSIII indeed coming back to his senses by the magical power of her feminine tear...just was really disturbing.

I know, I know: NSIII is overpoweringly strong. But he at that moment was no more than a very strong puppet, and Human NS was so into his senseless rage that she could have been way smarter than both of them, and found a way to DO SOMETHING other than be a martyr offering unconditional love and acceptance. I don't want her to *love* him into stopping strangling her; I want her to FIGHT BACK. She's not the martyr type. I want her to use her brain and her spunk and her rage and desperation to figure out a way out of that deadly confrontation. And I am disappointed the writers didn't rise to the occasion.

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About NS3: him going into disaster mode is triggered by the situation, so it is programmed.
The scene where he broke out of manual mode I think of it as programmed also. The manual mode was only added on later by the mon, it seems like it is a remote session/VPN login type to access and control a robot while the base OS and base rules and logic is still running. So when Shin was using NS3 to strangle SB, the tears triggered the hug rule and that caused the base OS to over write the remote session. (The other times Shin use manual mode to strangle SB she did not cry, so it did not trigger? And also the case for grandpa). It does suggest that there is no rule not to harm humans seeing how NS3 can strangle people, twist their arm. There is rule to “help humans” but that is not equal to “not harming humans”.... big loop hole here
Overall, it can be rationalize that some of the actions of NS3 are still due to his programming. It is us humans humanizing the action and associating it with feelings, being thankful, proud, sad.

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Yes… but Ro Ra specifically says she disabled disaster mode before they left the Czech Republic, and something must have gone wrong. Combine that with the fact that NS 3 can change his manual to add a new top priority rule, something that baffles his programmers, and now also bypass manual mode, and now he's thinking over whether it's good to follow rules… it all starts to look a lot like him making choices, albeit reached in an untraditional way. I think it can be both: the hug rule was triggered, but humans respond to triggers and stimuli too. He finds workarounds in his own system: they say there are workarounds to every system.

NS III does say 'I must not harm humans' and yet obviously manual mode can override that: we've also seen him grab people's arms pretty roughly and shove Ye Na over (which--I love me a robot, but I am tired of seeing women on the ground in this show, I'm telling myself he misjudged his strength in the shock of the new rule business…).

For instance, the tears equals hugs rule itself is malleable: So Bong says not to comfort people unless they want it, and NS III takes that onboard and we see him several times not hugging people when they cry (in this episode he doesn't hug the crying child, who seemed open to comfort). He could ignore the tears and keep strangling away--we've seen him ignore tears. But he didn't, and again that looks like choice. How far it is choice, and when he started making choices, is obviously debatable. ;)

If he does have free will now (I'd argue he does, but you may disagree), has he always had free will, and he's just obliging--he's been given this set of rules and he's OK with abiding by them, or maybe he thought he had to abide by them and is just finding out now he doesn't have to. (We do the same things for ourselves--the rules of society, the commandments.) Do you have free will, if you don't know you have it?

I mean, how much of human behaviour is programmed--trained, or inborn? We don't know. We say 'it's just how we're wired.' There are ways to rationalise a lot of human behaviours, too.

That's one of the interesting things about this show, the questions raised: if we built creatures who seemed to have feelings and free will--who seemed to us to have them, but there's also the fact we know NS III engages in behaviours that indicate feelings when alone--would we believe in them? It all gets a bit neo-biblical: Could the machines have them, and if they could, would we believe in them, and if we did, would we the makers be cruel or benevolent gods to these new creatures, with free will we never intended them to have?

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@marybee, I read thru all that you've said! hahaha I agree with most of the things you've said and had pointed out.

Now here's my question, what exactly is Shin afraid of? NS3 says that NS is scared of him...scared of him as the robot? Or scared of him because of what NS3 represents, which is compassion, love and forgiveness? Has NS's succumption to the darkness made him fear the light?

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Um, if Hee-dong has to stay way from cell hand-phones, shouldn't being near NS3 be a lot worse? He's got lots more electronics and he has to be in constant contract with those servers which "serve" as his actual brains, so there must be a lot of transmissions going on.

And... short power failure just ate the first version of this post... NS3's power-hungry servers must have overloaded the grid.

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I was wondering the same thing.

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From what I've read, the recommendation is to keep the phone five inches away from the pacemaker. So it's a distance issue, because HeeDong won't hold the phone far enough away.

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So no long hugs or piggyback rides between Hee Dong and NSIII.

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My take is that showcasing NS3 to everyone is a one step closer strategy promote the revolutionary idea of M city - A world run by AI in collaboration with human beings that people in positions of power do not make decisions based on family relations, emotional baggage of any type or situations but run by robots who use their innate "good programmed in virtues" to make best decisions free of any attachments. In that world is a given trust to the most supreme form of governance and rules that promises to be fair and just. Like NS3, m city will be inundated with robots whose job is to support human beings and bring out the best in them, help them out in their worst of times. I seriously think at the end of it all - the writer will have us thinking the world is a better place if human decision making is taken away all together and something else plays God. Its not far from christian stems of thought... What if God did not give humans free choice and just enforce to them his way of life should be lived. It will be a paradise where there will only be peace, no crime, no wrong thinking or doing, no evil...

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I mean....has the show completely ignored the fact that Human Shin is not particularly smart or bright.

I mean, all this work to get him the company and he did not to learn not only about the company but also the technology.

Chairman Nam knew that and had no problem finding a solution, hence NSIII. He gets a 'Grandson' that is smart and would move forward with the company without having to give it to Jong-Gil or even Young-Hoon as they are not blood.

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I think they are not saying Nam Shin is not smart. He is just not competent enough to lead company. We are get to know now, WHat Grandpa Means He is not competent enough is not because he is not smart, after all, he is the one who behind driverless car project. His emotion and attachment often take over his judgement and decision making whichmake NS3 more competent to lead the company. Off course NS3 is more genius and can thing more rational due to his endless searching access.

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The engineers did it,it looks like. He said in a meeting he had the idea and he expected them to execute it.

They flat out said,when NSIII game them specks, it made execution so much easier and they had a understanding of what he wanted.

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Nah,What I understand in that scene. It doesn't mean he has no capability. M City is new project the grandpa want to create, M City it's not something his idea. It's new concept and Big project, too. He hasn't even start to research it yet. Does it normal he want his employers to do the research for him?

He is smart, but still not NS3 level.. NS3 is a machine with limitless network capability.

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Forgive me if this has been mentioned in past threads, but I have this feeling that what will finally pull Shin back from the completely irredeemable abyss is Rora sacrificing her life to save him (most likely from Jong-gil).

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Well there was an article yesterday that said Dr Oh will play an important part in the end, I hope the important part doesn't include her dying for Shin. It would be too sad, he tried to protect her all this time and even now he didn't tell her about how Jung woo died means he still cares for her a lot despite the differences so her dying would be such a big ugly shock for him. I'm actually worried for Young hoon.

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If she is killed, who will fix Shin3's boo-boo's and abrasion, or update him to an old man as SB ages right along. She's a rather critical component to S3's continuing existence. She can't go anywhere.

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I do hope that HumanShin gets to find out in the next episodes what his dad, Jung Woo, did to "rebel" from the abusive Chairman Nam. Jung Woo is not so much a weakling after all but was instead some who grew up with integrity, knew what was right, and stood up for his values.

This is one drama that I don't want to end anytime soon as they still have a lot more material to run for a couple more episodes. AYHT may not be perfect but the plot, characters, and conflict have been pretty much solid.

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Nam Shin 3: "Are you a robot too?"

Kang So-bong: "I'm a cyborg with a metal rod on my leg. We're a Tin Can Couple."

The writer knows we needed a ship name.

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That Tin Can Couple remark was the epitome of cute. I'm normally not fond of "cute"(except for kittens and puppies), but, that was perfect.

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Was David was coming out of the server room, was he walking out with the kill switch? It looked that way to me. Perhaps he'll tinker with it a bit and render it inoperable somehow. The thing is, if something were to happen to Nam Shin-III, what's to stop Ro-ra and David from making him again? I know there's the question of financial resources, of course. I'm assuming they kept all their notes and specs from all their work. ...... But then there's the question of why Ro-ra would want, for a second time, to make another version of her own son. Especially after seeing how it affected Shin.

Questions, questions! How will it end?!

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@korfan,

It looked like David had the kill switch to me, but I suspect that we were being trolled or something. As I recall, Ro-ra said that fiddling with the kill switch to circumvent it would activate it. I find it hard to believe that she would build something she herself could not override in an emergency. If anyone could find a workaround, it would be NS3. But I've lost track: does he even know about the kill switch? If he could find a way to thwart the manual controls, then he may be able to do so with the kill switch. After all, he's repeatedly surprised Ro-ra and David with his unanticipated development.

I've been thinking that it shouldn't be a big deal (money being no object) to have a backup of NS3's hardware and software. Heck, NS3 should be able to repair/rebuild himself. Maybe when we haven't seen him on screen, he's been out in the garage designing and installing upgrades to NS4's hardware and software. It's the only way he'll ever get to have a tennis partner. ;-)

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@pakalanapikake I also recall the conversation David and Ro-ra had regarding the possible consequences of tinkering with the kill switch. It seemed like negative outcomes were more likely than not so you almost wondering if they would take a chance with it. ...... I don't think NS3 knows about the switch, unless he's overheard something and has kept quiet about it. But yeah, it plausible to think he could find a way to override the switch's function given what we've seen of his abilities thus far.

Heh! Your comment about him being out in the garage, installing upgrades made me chuckle!

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@korfan,

It's also possible that NS3 is a "shade tree mechanic" who tuned in to NPR's CAR TALK while running his diagnostics. ;-)

Thanks for the reality check on NS3's awareness of the kill switch. If he's locked out of it the way he supposedly was by the manual override, it would only draw his attention to it. I wonder if the code is hiding in plain sight? I can't believe he couldn't consciously scrutinize his circuits and memory to look for something that should not be there. If need be, he could hijack hacker botnets for additional processing power. Or bring worldwide bitcoin mining to a grinding halt while he analyzes all his circuits. LOL!

I cannot believe he would be ignorant of the concept of fail-safes. I'm sure it will boggle NS3's RAM when he realizes that Mom installed one of the things in him. His self-esteem has taken such a beating of late that such a revelation could be the coup de grâce for poor Shinbot.

Ro-ra is so guilt-ridden over Shin that she placates him a la Neville Chamberlain. I was disgusted when she and Young-hoon gave him control of NS3's manual override. They wouldn't have given a little kid matches or a gun to play with, would they? And now it looks as if she's thinking of doing away with NS3 because his namesake is pitching the mother of all hissies. But that's all it is: a temper tantrum. Someone has to put on their parental pants and dish out tough love. Sheesh.

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David told Oh Ro Ra he was going to save/protect NS3, and would protect her if she wanted, so I understood that he was indeed stealing the kill switch maybe in order to disable it. But he already said he was not talented enough so it is implied that only Oh Ro Ra can modify NS3 in that way. I wonder if that's what she will do in order to protect NS3 and finally show her love for him. If I was her, I would have done it already, but then there wouldn't be all this tension and drama about it XD

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To me there is so much ambiguity concerning the actual use of the kill switch. I'm so confused...

I understood the kill switch as only Ro Ra had access to activate it and that anyone who tries to destroy it, can still activate it. It's also been said that the kill switch is controlled remotely. Does that mean there are actually two components to the kill switch, just like the manual mode which required a watch and another device? Like we've only seen this kill switch suitcase, so where is the other component? Is it installed inside him?

Plus all those anti-hacking scenes (where Ro Ra talks about developing a chip for anti-hacking; where M Team talks about running anti-hacking tests)...there has gotta be some ways that information ties into the kill switch somehow...I don't believe the writers would put so much emphasis on those scenes and just not use that information...:-/

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@janjan18,

I've been thinking about the kill switch, too. It reminds me of the "nuclear football" that accompanies the POTUS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_football

No one has actually defined what is meant by "kill switch." Per Wikipedia, it's an emergency stop to rapidly shut down equipment, which may be damaged in the process.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_switch

In the context of ARE YOU HUMAN TOO, this kill switch may merely stop NS3's processes, which could be restarted later.

I don't think it's a physical switch that's built into NS3's hardware. I expect it to consist of code that triggers a shutdown sequence. I don't think Shinbot would blow up.

It's also possible that the kill switch could be malicious code designed to infect his servers and destroy his data and all of its backups. (But what about off-site backups?) Perhaps it is designed to trigger lethal short circuits in his hardware, or fry his microchips.

I agree that the kill switch has to have a communication component, perhaps via satellite instead of cell towers, WiFi, etc. Jamming the signal might prevent successful transmission of the command to Shinbot. Simply changing the frequency of the transmitter and/or receiver could also work. This is hinted at in episode 29 when NS3 does not recognize So-bong because Shin has blocked access to his servers while he is in manual mode.

At this point, I don't know what to expect.

I've been wondering about the antihacking chips that Jong-gil negotiated such a good deal on. I'm expecting to hear that they have a backdoor (surreptitiously installed by a Three Letter Agency) that Shinbot has discovered. And since Dr. Oh has to use them instead of designing her own superior chips, he may be able to thwart the kill switch.

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Yes, yes....I love your speculations and yes initially I thought of the kill switch as stopping his processes too because that's pretty much what the kill switch did to the M Car. It didn't destroy the car per say, just prevented the M Car from doing its current task/function. However, I became doubtful after seeing the stickers on that kill switch suitcase. It was just screaming explosion to me. Maybe it's the writers deceiving us just like what they've been doing in with previews? haha

Also thank you for those link. It was very enlightening to see where you saw connections to the nuclear football. It's definitely giving me new ideas! If I look at it from the nuclear football angle, Ro Ra definitely reminds me of the role of the President because I think she has the "biscuit" and if she dies...does that mean the kill switch could never be activated (unless others attempt to destroy it but I'm hoping by then NS3 have figured out how to stop it)? Oh, the possibilities!!!

I definitely agree that I feel like NS3 may be able to thwart the kill switch too, just not sure how...

And yes, I really do not know what to expect! I hope the ending has good closure..leaving me feel at peace after the emotional turmoil I've gone thru. lol

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-Great episode, especially for Young-hoon. I was so glad when he pointed out that Chairman Nam is the reason Shin is the way he is. I've felt that way from the beginning and I'm glad someone finally said it. I mean he raised him to be ruthless, so what does he expect.
-And that punch was so satisfying. I know that Shin was hurt when Young-hoon said he wasn't worth hitting and that he never should have woken up, but Shin is reaping what he sowed. You can only use your horrible childhood as an excuse for so long. He's an adult now and it's time he stopped acting like a child throwing a tantrum. When he had the opportunity to choose the high road, he stooped down to the level of the snakes around him.
-Ro-ra is so blind, I don't even know where to start. In my opinion EVERYONE was stupid for giving Shin manual control. Did they really think he would behave with that kind of power at his disposal? But then Mom goes and makes excuses. Ridiculous.
-When Young-hoon called NS3 Shin-ah, I thought oh how sweet because it's like he's telling him that while he is a robot, he is an individual, a person in his own right. So proud of you, Young-hoon.
-I loved the little chase in the hospital because it mimicked their interaction before but in reverse with So-bong now following NS3.
-Question: When did Hee-dong find out about nice robot Shin as opposed to mean Shin? Did I miss something?
-It made me sad for Shin when I heard that Ro-ra put all those things in NS3 because of what Shin was like as a child. I felt his heartbreak. But he goes around doing such bad things that any sympathy quickly dissipates.
-I don't know what the gang has cooked up but I know Shin won't go down without a fight and I'm worried about what that means for Super-Shin who still has some dangerous kryptonite out there.
-And let me just say this. . . Tin Can Couple? So cute!

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For Hee Dong, there is a scene where he was sleeping and NS3 comes over and whispers to him that he's a robot and asks if he will still like him knowing that. I guess Hee Dong wasn't actually asleep in that scene. ;)

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Okay I totally missed that. Off to re-watch.

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Thank you! I didn't recall that scene. Now it makes sense.

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"In my opinion EVERYONE was stupid for giving Shin manual control. Did they really think he would behave with that kind of power at his disposal?" Yes, THIS. So ridiculous!

But also, the warnings So Bong and Ye Na give Human NS and Jong-Gil ("If you do this one more time, I won't hold back!") again and again are absurd. Do they really expect the powerful people behaving badly will change their wicked ways on the basis of these warnings? What's the point? If you have something backing up these threats, then go ahead and do something. Stop the baddies!

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This episode made me frustrated and angry. I'll just say that Nam Shin looked exceptionally handsome in Jonggil's hideout where he was hungover, in a black turtleneck, and his hair slightly disheveled. I mean, Seo Kangjoon has been handsome all throughout the show, but that scene stood out to me.

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I also noticed, haha! He stepped up the handsome that day. All-black outfits are sexy, and black enhances the green in his eyes. SKJ is a gorgeous human being.

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I admit, It's been along time One of the reason I watch a drama for eye candy. That's used to be the least reason I watch drama/movie. Seriously, He is so damn handsome in this drama.

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Anonymous, hahaha, how is it that you and I feel the same way even on this episode lol. I wish we got to chat more about the things we didn't like :D. About this episode, yes, I think the story is starting to drag and I didn't see anything new except this attempt to make shin eviler. The only redeeming point was when David told him Shin III's rules were made on his character traits? Hugging his mom when she was sad, the boy who loved swimming and wanted to grow up as a firefighter, I felt like Darth Vader showed some flash of humanity in his eyes for the first time lol.
I feel like we have been criticizing shin a lot lately, but the writer has only given us the villain we are supposed to hate, it's like this setup isn't going to change, and which makes me sad. I don't know if I'm conveying my point across lol.

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Man Nod and Agree both of you @fay17 and @anonymous123! I fuckin hate they make Human Shin become so evil. I always cheering when a scene show the glimpse of the light in his dark soul.
I think they will make him unredeemable and make a sad ending for him, If that's happen I will cry a river "cries"

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I love how there are so many replies to this comment, just shows how human we all are (pun intended) to have taken notice of the exact same thing.

Many scenes i found him handsome. NSIII was so swoon in the necklace scene, but that was clearly intended, they dressed him up in the korean ideal boyfriend look (i think there’s such a term in korea, Boyfriend look is casual and boyish) in denim with red accents. And SB’s pink leather jacket to complement the whole couple look. It became a poster for some soundtracks and stuff. It’s intentional, but still shouts handsome in every way to me. It was the first stand out eye candy moment for SKJ for me.

But when it comes the scene we are discussing here. There was no intention to make him swoonworthy, he shone so much more. I particularly love the moment he slumped himself onto the sofa and and crossed his legs. That was THE MOMENT for me. Surpasses the very manufactured eye candy moment I mentioned above.

Sorry not sorry for being this superficial. High level eye candy plus a pretty good plot is quite a rare combination in dramaland.

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that scene where he was chugging down a bottles of soju while talking to rora too, oof.

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*raises hand* totally agree...sympathy is on his side especially if he's that handsome drowning in misery...hahaha

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OMG so much happened this week that my brain can't cope up. Super worried about Roboshin. Shin and Grandpa are people whom you can never be sure about. The writer definitely showcases us the complexity of their characters. Young Hoon and So Bong both punched Shin this week . The satisfaction

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I know that the stakes are high and NS3 is in danger, but this episode mostly warmed my heart and left me optimistic about the ending. Firstly, there is So Bong being absolutely awesome in comforting and encouraging NS3 to be himself, insisting there is nothing wrong with being a robot. This is my favorite type of couple in dramas, when one brings the best out of the other. And we can see the results, how So Bong and NS3 are growing to be awesome and confident, awww, these puppies in love are so cute. Have I said already that I love them? And, can they kiss again already, this time a real kiss initiated by NS3 after a proper confession of his robo-feelings or whatever is going on inside him? ❤️
Then we have also Young Hoon being an awesome hyung. He has a plan to save NS, but he also showed his affection for NS3. "You are a special machine with a heart, Shin-ah" and then "Thanks hyung" and I melted in front of the screen. I'm cheering now for Secretary Ji to make it happen, to bring back Nam Shin to being "human" and to save NS3's existence.
Regarding Oh Ro Ra, I think she will be prominent in the end because after all she created NS3 and made all this happen, although it was only out of desperation to feel her son close to her. She will sacrifice herself to save her sons, because she loves both of them. I wonder how this will turn out, I hope she doesn't die and NS comes back to his senses first. He loves Mom for sure, he's just angry.
Anyway, I'm trusting Young Hoon, So Bong and NS3 in whatever they are planning. Looking forward to see how this ends. Happy ending please!!! 😃

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I'm actually looking forward to the kiss as well (maybe a really passionate one?) ! Sorry, that made me sound so pervy but still...haha

I'm hoping that NS3 takes the initiate to kiss So Bong because then I see it that he willingly chose to kiss her due to the fact that he does realize he has real feelings (yeah, he's the woman in this relationship! haha). I mean all this time, it has been So Bong taking the initiative to romantically love/pursue him. Couple with the fact that, she doesn't expect anything in return, I'd love to see her surprise that he can reciprocate her love romantically. Also I hope he explicitly tells her that he loves her too (well we know he does in his head, but she doesn't know that).

I guess we shall see... :D

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Thank you for your recap and comments, LollyPip!

In this intense episode, hearing the reason for Nam Shin-III's "Disaster Mode" was for me the most touching incident. Damn. Mom installed it so her AI son could do what her flesh-and-blood boy wanted to do when he grew up.

It has been distressing to watch Shin himself go off the deep end with his twisted demands for unconditional acceptance. The love that can be demanded is not real love. Having been totally warped by Evil Grandpa, Shin cannot recognize that the Loyal Opposition really do love him, but not what he's doing. How awful that Young-hoon has to punch him and tell him it would have been better if he had never awakened from his coma.

I couldn't figure out why NS3 dropped in on the Medicar team at lunch. Aside from PPL, was it just to remind them that their boss seems to have a split personality? In light of the final scene at the PK Group board meeting, I think it's to point up the fact that Nam Shin-III is a separate entity from his namesake, and that a few people have noticed the differences between them.

Since Nam Shin is baying for NS3's blood hydraulic fluid, I can't help but wonder whether Roboshin has cooked up Plan B -- faking his "death" -- so he can sneak off with So-bong to live happily ever after away from cutthroat chaebols.

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"I couldn't figure out why NS3 dropped in on the Medicar team at lunch....I think it's to point up the fact that Nam Shin-III is a separate entity from his namesake, and that a few people have noticed the differences between them."

I think he only visited Conspiracy Theory Guy, the brightest of the bunch. NSIII definitely won him over to his side for as yet unseen reasons. (As we saw in the dramatic final scene, Conspiracy Theory Guy knew what was coming.)

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After this week I am pretty stressed about the last 2 episodes. And the last scene was shocking.... won't it backfire?? Will the people, employees and everyone accept nam shin III just like that!? Even our main characters had a difficult time accepting a robot among themselves.

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Aha... I think that the Medicar design team will go to bat for the boss who treated them more humanely than their human slave drivers did. At least that would explain why NS3 met the one guy in the restaurant restroom. ;-)

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I love how they have shown sobong's character growth slowly. She changed gradually, from someone who would do everything to gain money, to spy on someone without caring about the other side.. to someone who tried to accept the good hearted robot to someone who treated nam shin 3 like a human, to giving nam shin 3 a freedom, to caring for him lj
Ime he is his own , to loving him because he is just him and to believing in him ,trusting him above all.

Younghoon had a growth here, he is a fearsomeone character who is cool on the outside but when angered he is like an unstoppable dragon. But still he is doing this for nam shin.

Yena, I don't know about her but she seems to got out of her obsession to nam shin. I just want her to grow on her own.

David, way to go man! You opened human shin's eyes :)

I will not analyze the other characters such as nam shin and nam shin 3 since the others gave such wobderful analysis to them. I agree with all of them ^-^

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I HOLLERED when young hoon told shin in the face “You should have never woken up.” king.

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My thoughts on this topic: you have a pre-programmed robot that seems like a human and a human who is effectively pre-programmed to act robotic (he can't seem to reason rationally). Is this nature vs nurture, existentialism, does the whole drama exist to make us ponder the question, what is human, how do we rule ourselves and not be robot like in society?
The big thing that has been bugging me (it even woke me up this morning thinking about it) is when Shim raked ShimIII's face and I saw the metal. My immediate reaction was "oh, wow, he really is only a robot". The expression on her face was (I thought) the same reaction as I'd had, but no, her reaction was still thinking of him as human. That was really weird to me (and I think I'm the only one who had that reaction).

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I also thought he was a robot too in that scene.

Honestly I expected So Bong to have that reaction - thinking he was human. I thought NS3 thought her reaction will be like ours, "Oh, he really is a robot" which is why he turned to her suddenly but then when he saw that she was truly concern, he smiled in relief. Omg that smiled just melted my heart and I thought, "Is he really just a robot?!" ugh...both Shins are messing with my heart...;_;

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Ok I don’t think anyone else has mentioned this, but I might be wrong. Remember how Ro Ra said she didn’t want Nam Sin III near the M Car so that he wouldn’t detect the kill switch and realize he has something similar inside of his body? We’ve seen multiple scenes where Nam Shin III uses the M Car even after it has the kill switch (which I believe Ro Ra updated in a previous episode? Although I might just be confused with her updating the hacking system). The point is isn’t there the possibility that Nam Shin III knew the whole time about the kill switch???!!! I’m thinking about it after seeing the preview for next weeks final episodes where Nam Shin looks like he got the kill switch.... I also feel like Nam Shin III can probably hack the kill switch system too???!! Anyways I’m already thinking ahead but I just hope Nam Shin III survives until the end. If not I will cry the entire Han River.

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Yeah there has been many of us that speculated that NS3 would know about the kill switch (probably during the scene when So Bong talks to Maibo) and I'm waiting to find out if that's true.

Guess we shall see on Monday or Tuesday!!!

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Shin...just when I thought I could hate him, oh no, he goes and starts getting his wall cracked, displaying moments of softness that I cannot help but think he can be redeemed. Why do you do this to me, Shin?! Ugh you play not only with your feelings but mine too! D:

Anyways, just a few points I noticed:

1) So Bong as the Prophet: Seriously...even after re-watching some of the episodes, what So Bong says come true! Like in the scene where she yells that NS3 is a robot in the hospital...I didn't even realize that her revelation there was actually a foreshadowing of NS3's revelation to the world!
2) Mother as Savior: bibilical allusion? Does this have to do with like the Virgin Mary and Jesus? Again, I'm not Christian so if anyone can shed light onto this, I'd love to hear!
3) Notion of Free Will: with Gramps no longer in control over Shin's life, he's free now..or is he?
4) Trauma/Fear: If NS wanted NS3 feel pain, well he's done it and made NS3 traumatized. What can conquer these fear and trauma? Looks like love (no surprise!). YH's love has made him fearless. Hopefully that makes Ro Ra fearless too (as she was scared of the media finding out that NS3 is a robot) and will force her to do something about that kill switch!

Can't wait to see what the last episodes have in store for us. Whatever it is, I am hoping that we will get an ending that is satisfying.

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@janjan18,

2) Mother as Savior: bibilical allusion? Does this have to do with like the Virgin Mary and Jesus? Again, I'm not Christian so if anyone can shed light onto this, I'd love to hear!

This actually sounds more like the Old Testament Book of Judith from the Apocrypha (recognized as canon by Catholics, not accepted as canon by Protestants and Jews).
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/judith-a-remarkable-heroine/

It also reminds me of the story of Queen Esther, married to King Xerxes, who saved the Jews from annihilation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Esther

Alas, this is the image that has occurred to me -- in the event that Ro-ra activates the kill switch -- or Shin self-destructs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet%C3%A0_(Michelangelo)

3) Notion of Free Will: with Gramps no longer in control over Shin's life, he's free now..or is he?

Shin has always exhibited some degree of free will via his rebelliousness. Even when he has not been able to act, Evil Grandpa has not been able to control his thoughts. What I'm concerned about is the loss of "basic trust" that Shin had likely developed during his first two years of life (per Erik Erikson). Evil Grandpa's heinous treatment has left him a misanthropic, suspicious wreck. If he had a strong enough foundation of trust to begin with, he may be able to find his way back to his younger, more innocent self. The human spirit can be surprisingly resilient. Even so, I expect it would take years, and lots of psychotherapy -- far away from PK Group.

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Thank you for those biblical references. I will have to read them later and let it marinate in my head.

For the free will theme, it kind of reminds me of this bird in a cage metaphor in one of my modern Japanese literature class (unfortunately I cannot recall the author nor the title of the book since its been years). That even if the cage's door was open, the bird would not fly out because it has been used to its environment. If it does, will the bird be able to survive in its new environment? My professor speculated that the answer was no and that the uncertainty allowed the bird to stay in the cage despite the door being opened. Thus the bird had the will from the start, it just chose not to pick freedom, and therefore willingly stayed helpless. The bird made me think of Shin. It made me wonder, will Shin choose freedom or continue his imprisonment and stay helpless? I realized that he definitely had the will from the start, but what made him did he think he didn't?

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As for developmental theorists, I actually saw Shin in terms of attachment theorists like Harlow, Ainesworth and Bowlby and not necessarily Erik Erikson (or other stage developmentalists) per say just because I didn't really see phases of Shin's life to make that much of an inference. So going with attachment theories, I understood it as his attachment has been insecure and he cannot form healthy relationships because of that. So for me, I believe that Shin is capable of basic trust and hasn't lost it, he just hasn't been show how to trust properly and therefore cannot maintain relationships. Also, the fact that he is protective and jealous of both YH and Mom shows, atleast to me, that he trusted them to a certain extent. So I am hopeful from this episode but who knows? Looks like he's gone bipolar in the next...

I felt like Erikson's stages of development was more akin to NS3 "growth" as we could see his develop as the show progresses. There is a scene where NS3 asks if YH is a human he can trusts and YH replies curtly that NS3 is just supposed to do what he's been told cuz he's a robot...then I saw NS analyzing and he takes the gamble to trust YH and explains that So Bong witnessed the comatose Shin. This trust building, this relationship forming is what we see NS3 continue to do. Of course I saw NS3 completing the other stages of Erikson too...Again, I find it harder to say if such stages could be applicable to Shin just because I don't know the complete picture of Shin's upbringing. For sure, his emotional growth is definitely stunted.

"The human spirit can be surprisingly resilient."

Yes, that is what I saw in Shin and it's where I hope that he gets an ending that is befitting of his character.

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Truth to tell, it's been many moons since freshman sociology, so Harlow is the only attachment theorist I recognize. I still recall his poor little monkeys.

My sense is that Shin felt secure enough about his mother's love to be a feisty little boy. The way the two of them bantered at the conference indicated that she raised him to be his own person. At least that's how it appeared to me.

After he was kidnapped -- and then emotionally blackmailed by Evil Grandpa -- I can't blame Shin for not becoming attached to him or any of his flunkies -- or his aunt, who rubbed me the wrong way from the start. I can see how he could have become attached to fellow hostage Young-hoon. I understand how his attachment to his mother would have been undermined the longer he went without being rescued by her. Grandpa was diabolically effective at ensuring that Mom would not attempt to do so. While Shin understood the threats intellectually, he was still a small child who needed his mother. His anger towards Grandpa was later displaced onto her when Shin realized that Mom had “replaced” him with a synthetic son.

I agree that we didn't see much of his early life. Perhaps I shouldn't have inferred that Shin accomplished the developmental task of forming basic trust at the age-appropriate time. I just get the feeling that he was pretty normal for his age until he was kidnapped, at which point he was surrounded by people who were not trustworthy. He rightfully did not trust them. If he had had access to anyone other than Grandpa's flunkies, it would have been different. Even Ye-na, who professed to love him, was creepily obsessive, and tried to take him hostage while comatose. (I wonder if he were already awake when she tried to get herself married to NS3?)

Going into the finale, it looks to me as if Shin is teetering on the brink of a nervous breakdown – or maybe a nervous breakthrough. Let's face it: Sometimes, the only sane response to a crazy situation is to temporarily go off your rocker and then reboot.

[A friend had that happen with a cat that she was fostering for an animal shelter after the critter's human died. She brought him home and he unexpectedly proceeded to stress out so badly that sending him back was out of the question. He was unadoptable. Eventually he calmed down and literally seemed to reboot himself. About a year later, he developed diabetes, which is not uncommon in cats in the wake of extreme stress. Luckily for him, my friend could keep him. He was a lovely creature.]

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You made a great observation here http://www.dramabeans.com/2018/08/are-you-human-too-episodes-29-30/#comment-3281807 about the way in which NS3 mirrors others' emotions back to them. I thought that was a dandy insight. I have a feeling that NS3 will be the one to help Shin turn away from the Dark Side through this nonjudgemental, faithful recapitulation of observed behavior. It may just be the android analogue of detachment with love that Shin so desperately needs. NS3 will hear him out, but won't take offense because he “doesn't have emotions.” He will listen and give his undivided attention – and feedback.

Yes, yes, yes – NS3's developmental stages are visible, and unfold incrementally and organically. He's following a flow diagram. LOL. I agree that we haven't been privy to enough of Shin's earlier life to see which stage he occupies. As Mr. PakalanaPikake would say, Shin is suffering from faulty programming, for which we can roundly cuss out Evil Grandpa.

While his emotional growth is stunted, I believe that Shin is not yet beyond the pale. He is, however, perilously close. Saving himself will take work, and willingness to change. Along with the compassionate understanding and support of peers who have been through similar experiences: Young-hoon and NS3.

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Oh the attachment theories apply extremely well to Shin. If you're interested:

Bowlby: https://www.simplypsychology.org/bowlby.html

Ainesworth: https://www.simplypsychology.org/mary-ainsworth.html

Ainesworth's attachment theory as it pertains to adult relationships:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/compassion-matters/201307/how-your-attachment-style-impacts-your-relationship

Harlow: https://www.simplypsychology.org/attachment.html

I guess my foray into the biblical stuff is to postulate as to who, what and how Shin's soul is going to be recovered (or mended..or cleansed?)...I shall see...

I have hopes that he could be healed (or saved from the darkness)...but I'm ready to accept whatever fates the writers give him at this point.

For some odd reason, your mention of reboot reminded me of the kill switch. I don't know why...Maybe it's not only NS that needs that rebooting but maybe NS3 as well? Hm....

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@janjan18 August 5, 2018 at 4:55 AM

Thank you for the links to attachment theorists. I stayed up all night and will have to get some ZZZzzzz before I try reading them. Thanks again! ;-)

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Oh just to add onto the will theme briefly:

The notion of free will kind of goes back to Gramp's question of, "What is it that you want from life?" In that, I thought he was actually seeing if Shin is able to see this "will" of his and make use of it...Thus "will" in this case can be seen as a form of strength or determination. NS3 clearly indicated he had this strength (or will), but chose not to use and I found it befitting because he's a robot afterall. He has no need for will/determination which I find is what I believe humans have that differentiates them from animals....

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You're welcome, @janjan18.

Re: Shin's free will, I think that Evil Grandpa's death threats against his mother constitute a factor with which the bird in the cage does not have to contend.

The bird is provided with food, water, and an environment safe from predators such as hawks. It has no need to forage. The cage is all it has known its whole life. The bird is conditioned to living in that environment.

Depending on the size of the cage, it may never have been able to spread its wings to their full extent. Have the flight muscles atrophied from disuse? Does the bird need its parents to push it out of its nest to take that first step (flap?) towards freedom?

I'm not sure whether "free will" is something that can be ascribed to animals. They have instincts which humans have lost as other qualities of soul and intellect have arisen, at least according to certain metaphysicians. Animals, like humans, do have feelings and emotions.

As for Shin's remaining in the cage or claiming his freedom, I think that a better question to ask is: Can he recover from the decades of abuse and "soul murder" to which he was subjected by Evil Grandpa and his minions, in particular Jong-gil? He has managed to survive in a horrible environment, despite relentless emotional abuse. He's been held hostage like a POW -- in fact, he is a prisoner of another kind of war. He's a member of a very sick family system. He may still be breathing, but he hasn't lived like a human being since he was snatched from his mother.

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned Swiss psychiatrist Alice Miller's books on inhumane child-rearing practices in earlier comments on ARE YOU HUMAN TOO. I've posted pointers to her work on my fan wall. Children who grow up in families affected by addiction become warped in recognizable ways. For all intents and purposes, Evil Grandpa acts like a power-tripping control freak on a bender. Some kids would curl up and suicide under such conditions. Others would become self-effacing like Young-hoon, and yet others would become perfectionists. Some, like Shin, would openly rebel and vent their rage. Others would stifle their anger and become depressed, while yet others would adopt a cheerful "class clown" false persona and deny their mistreatment. Some would become perpetrators themselves.

I wonder if Shin has it in him to use his anger and intelligence to take the risk to trust the people around him who do care for him. He has been driving them away with his misdirected rage. He needs to learn to express his feelings in an appropriate manner that does not hurt himself or others. It's time to shed his armor in the presence of trustworthy people who have his best interests at heart. One of those folks is inherently sympathetic, does not hold grudges, and knows him as well as he knows himself.

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Okay I read those articles and let it seasoned a bit. LOL but I really couldn't find any similarities of Ro Ra to Judith or Queen Esther and that could be because I'm not Christian and did not understand the contextual background so I didn't know how to interpret it...It was like literally learning a new language! haha

This is what I understood: So Bong reminded me of Judith and for Esther, I'll quote wiki, "[the] author's theme, suggesting that the power of God is at work behind human events" is interesting because there really has been no reference to God by humans through the series despite the biblical undertones...

I do agree that Michaelango's Pieta is what I saw in my head, hence me thinking of Virgin Mary and Jesus. So I decided to some searching. I looked up Ro Ra's name. When I googled translated her name, it was read as Aurora (Oh Ro Ra). This is what I found:

https://www.bible-history.com/links.php?cat=30&sub=2356&cat_name=Mythology+%26+Beliefs&subcat_name=Aurora

and

https://heiscomingblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/17/the-heavens-declare-the-glory-of-god-beautiful-northern-lights-images/

which leads to this:

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/light/

I don't know what to make of this new information...Now I need to look up David lol...

Anyways, does this new information mean, I should hope for a happy ending? That Shin gets purified and finally finds peace? Or is it like Michaelango's Pieta in that Shin gets sanctify if he accepts Ro Ra into his heart? Are these the same thing? Sorry, these biblical literature are outside my scope of knowledge...:-/

Oh Monday....how I await thee...

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@janjan18 August 5, 2018 at 1:43 AM

I don't see Mary as the savior of the Savior, but there are numerous Old Testament heroines who save the Jews. I see Mary as a "cosmic doorman" who serves as the vessel through whom the Christ manifests on the physical plane. Ro-ra is Nam Shin-III's “mother” (or you could say that he is her “brainchild”). He saves lives with his “disaster mode” and invention of Medicar, but I don't think Ro-ra originally intended him to be a savior other than for her own broken heart.

I'd like to point out that in Judaism, the feminine face of God is called Shekinah. Unfortunately, in Christianity the Shekinah has been suppressed / banished. Omo! Shekinah ties in with your wonderful links on Aurora (goddess of the dawn, who lights the way for Apollo's chariot) and the aurora borealis! Those photos are incredible, and many of them resemble wings (which are one of the depictions of Shekinah, hehehe). The images are spectacular.

The Shekinah as Light
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13537-shekinah#anchor7

I, too, have noticed how God – as well as the soul and spirit – are conspicuous by their absence from ARE YOU HUMAN TOO.

Usually statues and paintings of the Madonna and Child depict Mary with the infant Jesus. As an adult, He is still her child. I may be picking up a few Kwan Yin vibes. If anyone could use a visit from the Goddess of Mercy, it would be Shin.

This article on Michelangelo's “Pietà” notes that “The Virgin is confronted with the reality of the death of her son. Yet the work is not a loud cry of mourning and devastation but rather a serene scene of tranquility and graceful acceptance.” The Christ accepted and fulfilled his role, but not until after He agonized over it on Mount Golgotha ["skull place," IIRC]. He came into earthly existence to accomplish a mission of salvation. That parallels NS3's reason for existing: he was designed to bring comfort to his builder, who missed her son. When the kill switch was first mentioned, I got the feeling that NS3's days could be numbered. Now we're seeing, especially with the foreshadowing of his father's demise, that that could be the case for Shin himself. I hope it doesn't turn out that way – for either of them.
https://aleteia.org/2018/03/26/picturing-the-passion-pieta-by-michelangelo/

I don't know if any of this has helped. Maybe we just have to see what unfolds during the finale. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. ;-)

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It has been another enlightening perspective and yes it was very helpful and has filled in gaps in my limited interpretation. Thank you for your explanations. :)

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How to inactivate NS3's kill switch...

Mr. PakalanaPikake pointed out this cartoon that reminds me of Shinbot and Chingu (who is over by the trash can). Going into the finale on Monday, I think we could all use a good laugh. ;-)

http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/2340.html

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Thanks for sharing. It was much needed! haha

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As we go into the final lap of this drama, my hopes, dreams, wishes, predictions for our final two hours in the show -- these are all based on relationships:

1. Nam Shin and Mom
(Assuming the killswitch is a bomb), Nam Shin steals the killswitch and attempts to detonate Nam Shin III in the middle of the M City data centres, to destroy Grandpa's dream. Mom finds out in time and runs to save Nam Shin III -- but she'll be killed too in the blast.

Nam Shin has a change of heart and runs in to save mom from the blast - meaning all 3 will die.

Nam Shin III protects them by somehow getting himself away from them, so they survive, but Nam Shin III is destroyed in the bomb blast.

Mom and Nam Shin are reconciled because he knows that HE loves HER, and he just wants her. And also the robot is destroyed, so he can go back to being her single little boy.

2. Mom and David
David leaves to go back to the Czech Republic. Mom stays with Nam Shin in Korea. They are slowly building up their trust in each other again, but are not quasi-dating anymore.

3. Nam Shin III and Young Hoon
They'll say goodbye and farewell. And Young Hoon will grieve when Nam Shin III gets exploded. But he may have a gut feeling some things aren't as what they seem.

He has lunch with the Medicar team, and while they are sad and talking about Nam Shin III not knowing about the killswitch in the car like in his own body, the team leader says -- no, Nam Shin III actually knew about the killswitch on the Medicar; he was the one who actually hit the car's killswitch, so he had known about it all along. Except that the car's killswitch merely killed the battery; it wasn't built to blow up in an explosion like the robot's killswitch.

Hearing that Nam Shin III already knew about what and how a killswitch was, makes Young Hoon smile without needing to find out more.

4. Grandpa and all other characters
Gramps lowly loses his wits to dementia in his nursing home, much like what he had condemned his own (sane) son to.

5. Nam Shin III and So Bong
They say farewell and he gives her her mother's heart necklace back, telling her he will always be with her, and that he is giving her his heart too.

He is detonated and destroyed, and she is heartbroken. He leaves her a message on Maibo that he's sorry and that he had to go home.

She keeps moping about missing him and finally decides to see where he was "born" since he said he was going "home", asking Mom if she can visit her old house. David still stays there, so mom says it's fine.

She gets to the house and David welcomes her -- along with one team member from the Medicar team!!! - telling her to explore the workshop where Nam Shin III was born. She goes and explores, and there is a new Nam Shin III robot ready to go, but lifeless.

She remembers that he said he gave her his heart and opens the heart locket -- and there is the computer memory chip which which stores Nam Shin III -- all it needs is...

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... for So Bong to install it - which she does.

Nam Shin III comes back to life and she cries in hope and happiness, and he hugs her. "Sorry for hugging you so late," he says as the show ends.

6. Seo Jong Gil
Gets fired, exit stage right.

7. Ye Na and Nam Shin
Continues to stay by Nam Shin's side because all she's ever wanted was him.

8. Aunty and Hee Dong, and Young Hoon
Young Hoon designates the young boy as heir apparent to the company; he is merely the trustee of the company for him. The company's energies on the Medicar are to be driven to find a solution to Hee Dong's heart condition.

9. So Bong's dad and two sidekicks
Are not followed up with besides them seeing that So Bong is Very Sad when Nam Shin III is destroyed.

Did I miss out any loose ends?

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Do you secretly have a gig writing k-dramas? Seriously, this could count as spoilers. I am marveling.

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Awww man, I missed a lot of guesses! One more hour left, so many things to tie up...

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