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Open Thread #569

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Happy Friday, Beanies!! I hope everytone is enjoying their weekend.^^
I was away from beanieland for more then 1 week as I was not well and still recovering. I missed all the conversations regarding my favorite dramas.
I was not able to watch dramas too but in this weak Finished my doses of 100 days my Prince, Thirty but Seventeen & My ID is Gangnam beauty.
It's hard to stay away from beanieland and dramas. T__T It's good to be back.^^

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Feel better soon! You finished more episodes than I did even though I'm not sick XD

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@purpleteapot Thank you. <3 I just binge watched 2 episodes/day and in 3 days it was over. I finished My ID is Gangnam beauty today so that I can watch Episode 15 tomorrow.^^

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You did well! I'm glad you're feeling at least a little better. Lots of illnesses this week. Take care of yourself!

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Thank you! @ally-le

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Hello, Beanies! This will be my first time posting on OT so please bear with me. I hope everyone is having a fun and safe weekend!

Watching dramas has always been a part of my daily routine so seeing myself click the fast-forward button too often these days makes me sad. I still enjoy Korean dramas and I take my drama-watching as a temporary escape from real life but I don't know... after finishing an episode I just feel so empty? Maybe it's because real life is taking up too much of my life or because I am still not used to having formal written reports and exams become my life. I tried doing things I used to enjoy before like sketching and painting but I still feel so down. What can you call this condition? Have you ever experienced something like this before?

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@sensationalfantasy I hope you find a drama where you don't have to fast forward or at the end you don't feel so empty. Thank goodness this month there are so many dramas premiering out. Check them out.
It's drama slump and slight slump in life. I hope that you start enjoying your work more.
Till then, Hwaiting!!
and you're not alone. It has happened with many including myself too.

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Thank you for making me feel I am not alone, @mimu1234!

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Has this been going on for a while? If it's a few weeks, I'd pin it to some temporary mood changes because of your busy schedule. I sometimes get a week or two during which even my favourite things make me feel listless.

However, if it has been going on for a few months, and you're experiencing other symptoms (emotional or physical) in addition to this emptiness, you might want to consult a counsellor, just to be safe. If your school has an in-house counsellor, that's a good place to start.

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It has only been going for like 2 weeks (thankfully). I consulted a doctor 2 months ago and looking at the symptoms of my previous condition (which is a lot worse), I think I really got a lot more better now. I'm thinking about it now that maybe it's really a slump in life due to my busy schedule? I think the stress also made me skip some parts of the dramas I'm watching although I still love those shows because I feel the urgency to do other things than watching korean dramas. Thank you for your insights, @purpleteapot!

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Ah, I just remembered something that helps in times like these. I do something methodical, like tidying up or maths homework (way back when I still had maths as a subject haha). Since these tasks are boring, I figured I might as well get through them if I'm not in the mood to do anything more fun!

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i'm a student too(though hish school) and I can relate with what you are feelin even though the extent may not be the same. With my exams coming up even I have been using the fast forward button quite frequently. I also have been enjoying things lees and I can get very impatient. But I know that this is something that happens to me when my studies are not going as well as they should. You are not alone in this so do not worry a lot about it

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I think we really need amd deserve a sanity break. Here's hoping we, as well as other Beanies, can get through this phase! Fighting to all of us! Thank you for sharing, @manichan!

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Welcome to OT! I can relate as well. I went back to school from January to July, and suddenly checking Dramabeans once a week became a milestone ;) There was just too much homework to bother with anything else. Ever since school ended and job hunting started, Dramabeans has become a daily habit and OT and K-drama watching mandatory ;)

Dear Beanie students. Please make sure to break free from it all once in a while. I "dragged myself" to a convention with a friend because I figured I should have been studying at home instead. Or so I thought. That day off turned out to be exactly what I did not know I desperately needed. ;)

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I was planning to go and see a movie and go to a book convention with my friends this weekend but the weather in our country right now is so bad. I'll try to do some unwinding soon to break free from my university life. Thank you, @turtuallysarcastic!

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It sounds like you’re experiencing some symptoms related to β€œburn out.” It can happen with anything, even kdramas! Change your routine a little. Go outside and get some sunlight if you can. Even 15-20 min of sunlight a day can get you feeling better. Vitamin D deficiency is a really common problem that can cause feeling down and out, with decreased energy. Good luck!

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It makes sense now that you mention that it might be burn out. I'll try to go out once the weather in my country becomes normal and the typhoon goes out of our area. Thank you, @ally-le!

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Maybe it's the "burn out" feeling mentioned above! When I first started to feel really bored/fast-forwarding while watching and eventually stopped watching kdramas altogether, I felt really sad. It was almost like I had no other escape from real life since that was when I just started undergraduate and things were super stressful.
Something I find super helpful in times when I'm feeling listless and/or overly anxious is to take a walk and listen to some moody music (usually my fav OSTs at the time lols), or just some podcasts (like interviews or comedy) to take my mind off of things (or even helps me think better in some instances).
I hope you feel better soon! And discover other hobbies/activities that might be of interests to you! Kdramas will always be here when you're ready for more :D

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I'll make sure to try something to take my mind off of things. Thank you, @strawberry!

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I often feel that way when I'm overly stressed, and during those times I don't watch dramas. I know that if I'm stressed, I won't be able to relax during the episodes and truly enjoy and appreciate them. I try to get through the period of stress that will always be pretty much inevitable, and allow myself to look forward to the dramas I'll watch after its over. When I'm less busy, I'll enjoy dramas a lot more, and it powers me up for the next stressful time!

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I'll try not to procrastinate and finish all my work so that I can be less busy and enjoy dramas more. Thank you, @sukstan!

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hang in there - some days/weeks/months are like this. You get through them and then one day realize that your blues have passed and you can start anew. Everyone here has shared good wisdom. You will find your way through this time.
Take good care of yourself!

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Thank you for the encouragement, @stpauligurl!

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You are most welcome @sensationalfantasy - every day is a new day to try and try again and see what happens.

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I can only add words of encouragement and support.
I'm glad that you are paying attention to this and taking care of yourself.
That's really the most important thing.
Fighting! πŸ’•

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Everyone will get slump in their life. Not to worry. Just fill in your time with activites (watching dramas is one of them (>.<)). Eventually, the slump will be gone.

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Happy Friday everybeanie! My work event ended last week, so I'm finally taking a short breather from work... to edit my thesis _(:ο½ͺ γ€βˆ )_ The edits are really just minor additions, but it was still hard to find the time and energy to sit down to do it. I took a day off today to finish the edits and of course I didn't. Ha.

Anyway, story time! At the event I was given the task of bringing the photographer around and briefing him on the programme. After this, I was sorting some items in the staff waiting room while the photographer ate dinner.

Suddenly, my boss comes in, takes one look at the photographer, turns to me and asks, "Your boyfriend?" It's a good thing I wasn't the one eating, because I'm quite sure I would've choked on my food (=οΎŸγ‚§οΎŸ=)

It was awkward, but more funny than awkward, so I told one of our collaborators (who came to volunteer for the event) about it. Rather than empathising, his eyes widened by, oh, just about a mile, and he exclaimed, "OH! He is quite cute (note: I didn't really think so, but he was friendly), do you want me to help you ask if he's single???"

I guess this is what you get for working in a tiny company in the arts sector, people react to ordinary situations in the most extraordinary way πŸ˜…

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This sounds like something from a kdrama! :D

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Only time will tell if this is merely a cameo or it's going to turn into a plotline πŸ˜›

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Or if you're the first or 2nd lead. (Or better, if he's the first or the 2nd lead.)

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My favorite response to "Your boyfriend?" is a simultaneous "yes."
"No."

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Omg, that would make for a great story/ drama scene!

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Ah, art people...*shakes her head in utter fondness*
That collaborator sounds like the second lead or best friend of male lead!

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Hahaha I think his profile fits the warm-hearted, slightly nosy but well-meaning uncle better :P

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Now I cannot unsee weightlifting fairy kim bok joo's pervy uncle in that role! :P

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Do tell us if he's single!

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Sorry I lol-ed at this emoji _(:ο½ͺ γ€βˆ )_ so cute

Also yeah, people love to play cupid, aren't they~

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It's apparently a lazy sloth, hehe. There's a happy version: _(:3γ€βˆ )_

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Both are cute XD

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I hope that you are writing these anecdotes down. They'll come in handy when you write your own book.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm sitting in a café with a silly grin on my face. 😁
Oh, please do let us know how this progresses...? Kamsamnida. πŸ’•

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Hahaha, I shared this here instead of with the people I know in real life because I know how Beanies love a good meet-cute (even if it may not turn into anything). I'll be sure dish out updates if any! (This goes for your request too, @ally-le!)

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πŸ˜πŸ’–

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Flu season is in bloosom, hate to be ill. My son thinks it's awesome to be ill, because he doesn't want to go to kindergarten. I tried to explain to him they it's like your duty to go to school like when mom and dad go to work, it's your work.

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That instead of they.

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I relate to kids who don't want to go to school when they have a cold. I hope that he is feeling better soon.

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Oh, he was quite ok just I caught him running outside without pants, shoes and socks when it's started to be cold in the evening (in my country we say "don't sit on the ground when there's r in the name of the month") so he caught a cold next day and he did in on purpose to "Γͺtre popinΓ© par sa maman". I took care of him for two days and two nights, didn't sleep a lot and after my visit to hospital I brought a souvenir with me in form of flu. I hope he won't get it, I would love to sleep little bit more...

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Oh dear!
I hope that you can sleep and that this is over quickly.
πŸ’• πŸ’•

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Hello, Beanies! Hope everyone's well. I had a bout of seasonal blues due to rainy/windy weather, but today the sun is shining and I feel much better.
So last weekend I attended the wedding of the season (my brother-in-law got married) and since the newlyweds ran a marathon (groom) and half-marathon (bride) the next day (it was part of the wedding celebration), the event received lots of media attention. It was wild! And everyone loved it.
I myself ran 10k, so I spent the week recovering and working a lot. I didn't even finish this week's episodes of 30 but 17. Gonna do that later today.

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OMG so cool re the wedding! πŸ˜„ One of the most unusual weddings ever!

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It's safe to say it was a once-in-a-lifetime experience :)

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Wow!
πŸ’•

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Hi all, happy weekend! I've been on a "let's lose weight" thing for almost 6 months now. To be clear, I've consulted a dietician for a diet plan and gotten an exercise schedule. Very healthy...Except it's too healthy? 😒 I've lost only 6 kgs in 6 months. And still have another 6-7 kgs to go to be my ideal weight. Which is not skinny! (Disclaimer yet again)

*sighs* Losing weight is so hard.

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Hwaiting! I needed to lose weight for years because of unhealthy habits. Losing 6kg is a progress, keep going!

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Thank you! You can do it too! πŸ’ͺ

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No it is not.

Keep saying I need to try, but...

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😣 yes it is. And do try!!

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Good luck on your journey to your ideal weight. Stay strong! I want to lose 7 kg of post babies weight but it’s really hard cause your body isn’t just the same πŸ˜”

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Oh! First of all, congratulations! ❀️
Here - I'm sure finding time & energy to focus on weight loss would be a massive challenge?

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Yeah, it’s a really a big challenge. Instead of working out I just want to sleep. I’m always sleep deprived. When I finished my MA studies I had such big dreams. But right now my dream is simple - is for my kids to sleep through the night and not waking up every two or three hours. I don’t remember the last time I slept 5 or 5 hours straight without interruption πŸ˜‚

Most of time I look like Jang Nara at the beginning of Go Back Couple πŸ˜‚ I used to be fashion conscious but now I’m glad if I don’t have baby food stains on my clothes πŸ˜…

I can still doll up when I go out and can look like a decent human being but most of the time when I’m home I don’t have time to think about my weight. I just don’t have energy or enthusiasm to work out 😭

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*sends love from across the screen* I can't comment on how things change as your baby(ies?) grow older, but I hope things will stop being so hectic & settle down into a nice happy calm. ^^;

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Hang in there! Your baby should settle into a good sleeping pattern soon. Read up on tips if you need help.

Most of all, don't be too hard on yourself. I find motherhood very challenging because of the expectations we have of ourselves. If you can get help, go for it. We need not do everything ourselves. It doesn't make you any less of a mother. We need to keep ourselves healthy both physically and mentally to take care of our children. I find short breaks really useful.

As for weight loss, take your time. Forget about those celebrities who wear a bikini almost after they gave birth. I lost weight naturally because I had less time to snack. I also found that I had less time enjoy my meal even if it's in a nice restaurant. I'd be busy trying to feed my kid, entertain him or eat quickly so that I can tend to him. I guess you can use the necessary evil - an ipad or the like as a babysitter. Over the years, I learnt to let go of some things and try not to be rigid about rules. I may not be the best mother but at least I am a happy one.

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@outofthisworld Thanks for your advices! I think this is something I needed to hear... What can I say? I think nobody is really ready beforehand to become a mother. It just hits you after a baby is born πŸ˜€

I’ll try to take your advice to heart and try to make some time to myself too πŸ™‚ 😊

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@cherryinbloom,
I think that you have done extremely well! The yo-yo weight of the childbearing years is no joke.
I finally made peace with those last 5 kilos. They just never left no matter what I did.
You will have time when the children are a bit older. My friends who were able to go back to pre-baby weight and who regained their stomach muscles did pilates regularly. Core muscles are the most difficult to get back into shape...
But, really, bravo for how much you have lost already!! πŸ’—

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My friend was renting a car when the rental guy looked at her and asked brightly, "oh! When is the baby due?" My friend looked at him straight on and answered, "he's six". πŸ˜‘

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I trained my husband never to ask a woman how many months into pregnancy unless she looks about to go into labor. Saved him countless death glares.

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I have the same problem with my belly and I did exercises but it got worse I think. But I put lots of weight because I adapted my eating habits to french ones and for my body it's the worst. Anyway now I know I have diastasis recti and I found out I made wrong exercises so muscles went the wrong way and it's not holding all together.

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I was the extreme case because I gained a lot weight in both of my pregnancies. I went from 50 kg to 75 kg with the first one and then from 55 kg to 75 kg with the second one 😱😱😱 I went up 25 kg, then down 20 kg and up 20 kg again within 3 years.

Now I’m 57 kg and struggling to lose at least 5 kg but it just doesn’t go down because I’m used to stuff myself to the fullest πŸ˜… Maybe I should consult someone how should I proceed with the right diet and exercise?

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I never get a flat belly unless I am skinny. It's the first area to put on and the last to go. I don't believe in those exercises which target specific areas. Yes, they do tone up your muscles but you still need to get rid of the flab to see the outline of muscles you've built.

If anything, I just find the tummy flab annoying. I do not like the feeling of flesh spilling over the top of my panty or the waist of my clothes.

To me the best exercises are cardiovascular ones to burn the calories.

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@cherryinbloom

I put on more than 20kg for my first pregnancy. I still remember the first time I weigh myself after giving birth, it was at the hospital. I was shocked that all I lost was the weight of the baby. I mean what happened to all the rest? Amniotic fluid and the placenta must surely account for something?

Anyway, I lost all except the last few kilos which proved to be very stubborn. I can't remember what I did but crash diets are futile unless you are using it to jumpstart the process or motivate yourself.

Cut down on carbs, it's the fastest way when it comes to diet without starving yourself. Some go to the extreme of no carbs but I find it not only dangerous but unsustainable. The trick is to gradually dial down but still maintain a minimum.
You should also try to pick up some form of exercise. Since I am hard pressed for time, I run. It's the fastest and easiest form of cardio. No need to book facilities, join a gym, travel or fancy equipment. Just get a pair of good shoes, maybe wear nice running gear to motivate yourself and run. Do it for at least 30 to 40 minutes and at least twice if not thrice a week.

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OUCH... that must’ve been so awkward πŸ˜‚

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Slow weight loss is long-term weight loss, particularly if you are gaining muscles with exercizing, so good job with those 6kg!! Don't be too hard on yourself, loosing weight is really hard and you've set quite an ambitious goal, so I hope you keep it up! Good luck!

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agree with @delsatu! Slow weight loss is the most efficient - I experienced it myself . @greenfields, you're doing very well. Fighting!

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Thank you guys! This is what I tell myself too!

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I've the opposite problem ... I know I can hear groans and protests that it's not a problem. But in a sense it is ... I can't seem to put on weight and I'm underweight. Last 12 months I've become skinnier so that my usual clothes look baggy on me! I've considered going for a check up, but health-wise I feel OK. I eat OK. I'm not too easily tired. Maybe it's hormones? πŸ˜”

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Could it be a thyroid issue? I know a friend who eats well and is energetic, but lost weight because of that. If the weight loss is quite apparent, you should definitely get a checkup even if you're feeling okay.

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Thanks @purpleteapot. Yes, I've thought about checking on the thyroid, or just getting a general health check. Will probably have to drag myself to do it!!

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Please do! Sudden, unexplained weight loss/gain should always be checked out. I have a good friend who's underweight and she didn't realize that there are health risks associated with it until I showed her some articles about it. Also, it's a good idea to calculate your BMI: https://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/bmi/adult_bmi/metric_bmi_calculator/bmi_calculator.html-- if it's lower than 18.5, then it's a health concern.

Sometimes those of us who spend a lot of time taking care of others are really negligent when it comes to taking care of ourselves. You're a much-beloved member of our community, as I'm sure you are of your family and RL community-- I hope you'll honor your precious self with good self-care!

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@risaa
Thank you so much for your concern. I will keep your advice in mind! πŸ˜ƒ

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I disagree with the general sentiment that being skinny is not a problem, so you have my sympathies. Ultimately it is important that one be healthy. Good luck re the test and I hope you figure out a way to put on some weight.

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I feel you. I’ve been in a no-rice-after-six diet rule for the past two years to maintain my current weight and it’s not an easy thing to do, since I love rice (and food in general lol). *sigh* It is indeed hard to lose/maintain weight. πŸ˜…

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Oh! Rice is yum! My diet plan also includes no rice after 6/for dinner btw so that must indeed be a common thing that works for people. :) But there's so much stuff made OF rice that is also out. *sighs* Good luck to us!

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Oh, if you have a chance could you let us know more about your diet plan?!? 6kg in 6 months seems quite reasonable. Plus it's quite interesting about not eating rice after 6 p.m.

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Sure. First of all, I'm vegetarian (eggs ok) + lactose intolerant, so my diet plan has been prepared with these restrictions. But overall it actually confirms to the article @bbstl share below. I eat within a 12 hour window, eat more earlier in the day and eat pretty much every couple of hours. From a glass of warm water with lemon first thing in the morning to a relatively light dinner. Lots of dal (pulses) for protein.

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As someone who eats dinner with rice,that rule would be so hard for me, props to you!

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It’s hard trust me so thank you? :D

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Ugh, I hate this unending challenge. Well, here's something from the NYT that was news (the actual evidence) to me and you might like to try if you don't currently do it:
https://nyti.ms/2mH125D?smid=nytcore-ios-share

In the meantime, I take solace from the fact that my doctors concur that being overweight has at least proved a long term stress on my bones and kept me from getting osteoporosis πŸ˜‰ For reals! I'm my own weight-resistance exercise 24/7, in a manner of speaking . πŸ‹πŸ»β€β™€οΈ

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Thank you for that article. My plan actually conforms to it, and I read it last night when I was cheating and snacking on nuts right before bed haahaha. Talk about timing.

Own weight resistance exercise?!HAHAHAHA this is the first time I've heard anything like this. Congratulations!! (Isn't it normally the other way round? You must be of an optimal weight. ^^)

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No, I'm definitely overweight and the only benefit to it is that it does keep the bones strong (not the joints!) from acting as a stressor on them. You really do never hear doctors talk about that because the drawbacks of obesity are so much worse but my physical therapists and exercise trainer also agree. So my lower joints are stressed in a bad way but the bones themselves are not at all porous πŸ˜‰

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Most interesting. I've definitely only heard the drawbacks. I wish you all the best BB! If I may ask, are you trying to lose some weight since you mention physical therapists and exercise trainer?

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@greenfields it's been a lifetime of trying, succeeding, trying, failing, etc etc. I loathe exercise and have since childhood, so I have to "outsource my discipline" to a trainer and luckily can afford to. Otherwise I'd never move away from the iPad. The PTs are due to lack of exercise, I suppose, combined with being what I call "skeletally challenged" on both sides of the family, with everyone having bad joints, bad backs and necks, bad arthritis (and hating sports.) I've already had both hips replaced and one big toe fused and will soon get a new knee (whoopee!). So, let me serve as an example to all to get off your butts and keep your muscles strong, you need them and what you don't use, you lose!
You think it won't happen to you, but it will πŸ™ƒ

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Ouch..I'm definitely taking note. Good luck! I hope the battle goes in your favour more often than not! I'm with you on hating exercise. When I started this plan, my trainer sent a nondescript text that I've come to really like, "Your body was meant to move. Enjoy it." So I'll say the same to you. :)

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That actually sounds about right. Some (not all) studies have shown that if losing weight much faster than a kg per month, it is regained very easily.

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Wohoo! *makes me feel better about the pace of things*

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So, you’ve lost two babies worth of weight! πŸ‘ΆπŸ½That’s a lot! Think of it that way, or next time you’re at the grocery store think of how many chickens that is! πŸ“

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and sadly, i'm packing a 20# turkey...
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πŸ˜‚ πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ in car line.

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Heheheh! That's brilliant! When you put it like that I certainly feel like that's an achievement! I've lost two whole peoples' worth of weight. Admittedly two VERY little people, but two people nonetheless.

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Hi greenfields, I wish I have lost 6 kilos...that is my goal. But I am with you, I also have tried to change some things in my diet, but mostly in the time I eat, because one of my problems is the lack of schedule... And I register in a gym, so I go with a friend.
But it is taking like forever.
I think in three months more or less I should have lost only 2 kilos. Not enough, I still cannot wear the clothes I want and the summer is almost gone...
So... not happy.
Anyway. I accompany you in this matter.

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Nooooo - there's summer next year too. And you'll have achieved your goal by then! Fighting, us!

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I also want to achieve my ideal weight! πŸ˜“ Does going to dietician help? Cause trying on my own has been disastrous and since when I research I do it in such a clumsy way, I study a lot and get exhausted with too much information lol. Now I wanna go see a dietician -_-. But curious mind wants to know what's your ideal weight if you don't mind sharing. :)
And congrats greenfields! 6 kg for me is still a lot, and if it helps, convert it to pounds, two digits make it sound a lot more haha.

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I think it does! A lot of our weight is gained due to unhealthy eating habits. I actually added exercise to my schedule later, and began only with diet rectification first - and lost the first three kilos just from that.

I'm tall for women in my country but likely to be average height for women in the US. My ideal weight is 62 kgs. If I was Korean at this height, it'd probably be 55 or something haha, but I like curves. XD

What's yours?

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My ideal weight is 55 kg lol. I am tiny, at 160 cm.. so the minimum I have ever reached thanks to deadlines and submissions has been 57 kg. :(
I also think exercise and food chart both are needed. Thanks for sharing your story, I lacked motivation before but now I just have to do it! :/

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Hehehe - I'm about 6 to 7 cm taller than you. So I think our ideal weight is about the same as per the height. :) Good luck fay! You can definitely do it.

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Haha at the Korean comparison, I recall that when Kim Sun Ah played Kim Samsoon (a character known for being "fat" in Korea), she gained 15 kilos to reach a weight that I would dream of being and we are the same height.

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:/ I always loled at how Kim Samsoon is even remotely fat. Another example was Weightlifting Fairy. :/ Seriously the standards of "fat" in Kdramas are just mental.

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I think you've done extremely well, @greenfields!
How can it be 'too healthy'? Isn't it better to lose weight gradually? Otherwise you might feel tired. 😴

For myself, I've given up on the idea of dieting. Just thinking about it makes me feel hungry. I admire those who have the discipline. As for exercising, it's so very important for toning and general strength.

Kudos and hurrah for what you have already accomplished!!
Remember, you can't go faster than the music. Some things take time...
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Thank you Rukia! <3
Hehehe dieting where you starve yourself is bad - but watching what you eat, and planning your food schedule is good. So cut down on unnecessary carbs, convert sugar into healtier sugar, and so on? ^^;

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Losing weight is incredible hard so props to you for losing 6kgs. Also don't forget that if you start exercising, it can look like you are gaining (or not losing weight) but what happens is that your fat is replaced by muscle so if possible, you should also calculate your fat % and see if this one goes down compared to your muscle %.

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Yes thsi is true. Good point thanks! I'll check the fat and muscle % age.

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Hello beanies. Finishing off work for this week and then will dive into some well deserved k-drama bubble-time (Devilish Joy, ID Gangnam Beauty, Mr. Sunshine, 30 but 17).

Also in the middle of planning my itinerary for my trip to Korea at the end of October. Can't wait. My mission is eating a lot and getting lost while buying skincare products. Can't wait. Will keep an eye out to see if I can witness some k-drama filming going on in Seoul/Busan/Jeju.

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Oooh, a trip to Korea – how exciting! I bet planning it is so much fun!

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I wish you great holidays in Korea ! I loved my trip in Korea :D

Where will you go ?

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I will be going to Seoul, stay there for a week and then take the train to Busan (lol) and then fly to Jeju (check out Udo Island as well) and then go back to Seoul for another 2 days before flying back home.
We will be staying in a traditional hanok guesthouse (while in Seoul) and explore the city. *_*
Can't wait!

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You have great trip! I myself will be there soon but I don't have any exciting plans since it is regular thing - meeting family and friends. But I love food (especially bakery and fruits) there.

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Hi Fan this is really o/t but since you are really on top of current events in the world of kdramas maybe you can provide dome insight into what wound up being the number of episodes for THIRTY BUT SEVENTEEN.
I have seen a drama have episodes cut: A BEAUTIFUL MIND. I have seen a drama have episodes added: DEFENDANT. I can't remember a drama during its run have the episode count reduced from 40 to 32. It may have happened before. Any idea on what is going on behind the camera on 30B17?

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Wooow.. i'm happy for you.. have a nice trip and don't forget to tell us about your experience

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How exciting! Happy travel planning!

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Hi @tesshan. I am jealous. How long will you be in Korea? When I get a chance I like to plug one of our own beanie @michh Mich's great kdrama location site (ie you can visit The Bridge" from 30B17):
https://koreandramaland.com/
Have a wonderful trip.

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that website is amazing! Thank you! I will try to go to some locations (N-Tower, Starfield mall etc) but this website will help to find some more spots. Thank you!
I will be there nearly 2 weeks.

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aww thank you @marcusnyc20 and @tesshan! hope KDL comes in handy for your trip, tesshan :) which other drama's locations are you hoping to check out?

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Beanies, I have a confession to make 😊 I haven’t enjoyed a rom-com or a romantic melodrama in ages. I used to love rom-coms but I’ve been watching mostly OCN dramas lately. Like 80 % of all dramas I’ve watched in past two years are thrillers, human dramas, investigation or legal shows (My Ahjussi, Misaeng, Forest of Secrets, Signal, Circle, Duel, Tunnel, Save Me, Life on Mars, Black, etc.).

The truth is I really like good love stories, so why no romantic drama really touched my heart? I mean, I liked several romantic dramas (Go Back Couple, Because This My First Life, I’m Not A Robot comes to my mind). I laughed and cried with them but that’s it. They didn’t get under my skin. I don’t feel completely overwhelmed like I used to feel about Answer Me 1997, Coffee Prince or Queen In Hyun’s Man OTPs. So am I getting old and cynical or there’s really a lack of strong OTPs lately?

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Totally can related. My favourite OTP is the same as yours. It is hard to find that spark between the leads these day. I think partly we are getting old and cynical. Or should I say we have seen it all so there's no excitement anymore? However, Your Honour have been a great watch with the OTP. Maybe you can check it out.

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Me three, rom-com is not really the highlight of KDramas these days. I don't think it is because of the leads, but more about the stories which lack freshness, or grandeur, or maybe something else? I loved the love story last year in Strong Woman Do Bong Soon, but I am still waiting for this year's love story which shall make me giggle et scream high-pitch noises. I'm sure a drama will come around: we drama fans have mastered patience by now! 😁

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@cherryinbloom
I believe that I too am getting jaded and hard to please when it comes to pure roms or romcoms. If there's not much else going on besides the couple stuff in the drama, then all the more, the characters have to be well fleshed out and developing into characters I can approve and root for.

So I actually 'failed' shows like WWWSK and Something in the Rain/Pretty Noona. Shows that had other stuff going on and the romance was just 50%, I found easier to forgive for their unlikely or unconvincing pair ups.

The dramas where I found the romance strong: Just Between Lovers, Healer, I Hear Your Voice, Lie to Me, Marriage Contract, Pinocchio, Sassy Go Go, 1% of Anything...

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Agreed that I'm getting jaded too. Romcom used to be the easiest kdrama genre to watch for me. But now I usually get bored by the end of eps 6, which is very frustrating when I just wanted to sit back and enjoy something light after a busy day. (Thankfully there're many variety shows to fill this gap) Maybe watching too many romcoms in my early days as kdrama fans makes me painfully aware of its tropes and clichΓ©d plot. Or maybe other genres has spoiled me with its more creative content.

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I think I go now more for the mystery, supernatural or other genre and let the rom just be something on the side and not the main thing in those shows. Of course, being kdrama, the rom always has to be a pretty big part of the show, but still, I can take it or leave it without much regret as long as the rest of the plot is not bad.

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I can totally relate! I used to watch mostly rom-coms in my early kdrama-watching years, but got really bored and took a loooooong break. I only recently returned to kdramaland by chance with FoS. Since then, I mostly stick with good thrillers/mysteries. Maybe the combination of me feeling jaded and the cliches/tropes that just keep me away from rom-coms. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ˜¬

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Joining in the chorus! Totally relate to this.

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I think I'm jaded too. I used to watch the raws for some of the older shows because I so highly anticipated the next rom com episode. I loved I am Not a Robot and Strong Woman, my faves this year, but still didn't get the same thrill as Coffee Prince, Healer, even BoF. I think It's mostly me, partially because there was something a little messy, a little foreign, a little fascinating about them when I first started kdramas and that's worn off now. But I also wonder about binge watching. I had the heavenly experience of coming late to kdramaland a few years back and got to binge watch, just immerse in a different world, all these wonderful recommended dramas. Now I've watched them all, and watching the newer ones on a drawn out weekly basis is not the same.

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My reasons for watching a lot fewer rom-coms recently are:
1. Too many overused cliches. And still more overused cliches.
2. Too many side plots that add little or nothing to the story, seem to be just filler to make what should be an 8 episode drama into 16.
3. Too many are "idol" dramas, with little to relate to in real life.

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I am still watching all, but not excited as before. Totally agree on your listed reasons.

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For me it's that the lead is so often so cold-can't communicate, stand-offish, condescending to the female lead, grabs her by the wrist and drags her around from scene to scene in the episode, etc. In real life, if a guy treated me like some of the leads treat the "lady" it would be a big red flag. And I'm tired of shipping the second lead. (I liked Jackson so much more than the lead in "when she was pretty" just for one example. I married a "nice" guy and I've never regretted not holding out for a rich, chaebol jerk. )

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Well, I can feel it is hard to tell in your case.
Those dramas you mentioned are old. So obviously, you have grown older as well. It is natural you may get bored with something new or fail to see (or feel the connection) because now you have more experience as well (if not personal, then second hand).
But also, it could be-yes, the quality of dramas has diminish. ???? πŸ€”
Maybe in some cases, but not all of them.
I think it is a matter of perspective.
From all the dramas you mention, I have only watched coffee prince, and the OTP didn't get into my skin, but I am only watching dramas since 2013. Maybe if I had watch it before??? I don't know.... before when they didn't seem to be old fashioned??????

The best otp I have experienced I think it was "my love from another star", which I watch months after it aired... And maybe because of the "impossibility" of their love? πŸ€”

But the OTPs that had me dreaming about their future together and the beautiful children they would made were only two: Soo ha and Hye sung from "I hear your voice" and Dong hoo - Ji an from "my Ajusshi".
Then again, the reasons had to do more with who I was when I watched these dramas than with the dramas themselves. So, it is our relationship with the drama, and the connection we make with them in a specific time of our lives that make some dramas special.

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I think so too... I'm no longer interested in love story in a rom com or melodrama that focus on romance or a love story between the leads. But apart from a recycle tropes and cliche, one of the part what makes me enjoy rom com in the past were the leads chemistry. not in terms alot of skinship. More like acting chemistry. It's no longer as magical as the leads in the past for me. They often abit awkwards most of the time when they start getting more intimate.

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Totally feeling the same for a couple of years when there was a time I thought rom com will forever be my thing!

Last year I at least had Strong Women DBS that I adored because of the adorable couple and this year I haven’t finished one single rom com (and all that I could sustain was about 6-7 ep of WWSK and 11-12 ep of BTIMFL). The dramas that I love dearly this year are Live, My Ajhussi, Life on Mars, and Life - all underpinned by strong writing and soul touching stories.

Nevertheless, I still hope to see a magical romcom that will reign me in again.

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Did you watch Just Between Lovers? That one touched a lot of hearts here.

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I am a bit nervous about JTBC's Monday Tuesday drama slot change because it will go head to head with tvN's Monday/Tuesday drama.

Not sure if JTBC will be able to keep the new timeslot. Although before, they've been experimenting on that by airing the repeats of Miss Hammurabi and Life. Surprisungly, their drama repeats win against tvN's Monday/Tuesday dramas.

So I think, JTBC already had an intention to air their Mon/Tue dramas after their main news, but they're just putting it now since all sports coverages if the big three are over.

Also, I do feel that the "drama wars" is no longer between KBS, SBS and MBC, rather, it is now between JTBC and tvN because the dramas of these cable networks always occupy the top 2 slots in popularity ranking by GoodData.

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I also feel like this year was great for cable dramas because finally, TV Chosun and MBN are now producing series. TV Chosun got their highest rating drama, and MBN having 3 Wed/Thur dramas in a row, the 2 co-produced with Dramax. And now, Channel A will be having their own drama this October. Just when you think that JTBC was the only General cable network among the four to continously produce dramas. They are not alone anymore.

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It sounds overwhelming. Hopefully more dramas(drama wars) mean more chance for better? dramas to be produced- that will be win for drama watchers (if they can find the time to watch)

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Hi Everyone and Happy OT!
You know how if someone is almost a teenager, they're called tweens... can I call those between teen years and adults: twyeats or twerps or twits? (Heheheheh!). Anyway, at 5.30am my twyeat child is up proclaiming she would work on her laptop for half and hour, then go back to sleep and wake up for her 9am class. It takes her an hour to get to school.

At 8am I find her still fast asleep and wake her, and she says "Why didn't you wake me at 7am?" - This from a child whom I've not woken up for school in many years.

My questions to all Beanies: Is it the mum's job to wake up everyone in time so that they can sleep without bothering to set the alarm?

Does how old the child is make any difference.... pre-teen, tween, teen, twyeat?

My point of view: Kid has been able to take care of herself for years, wants to be treated as an adult, planned the nap herself, so why does not waking up late suddenly become mum's responsibility? 😏

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My like is for her sense of humor. :)

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Nope, not your responsibility. Especially if she is changing her normal schedule.

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I'd say it's not your responsibility, especially at that age – your kid is almost an adult!

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I have the utmost respect for motherhood. That means I, to some level consider a Father few % behind a Mother. I kind of put Mothers on Pedestal. This causes different views to collide. Freedom vs. responsibility. Independence vs. dependence. etc.
So in my mind whenever its somethings - Its all about a Mother. She might have used those words casually or the more straight one - She expects things from you but find it difficult to say or express but complaining about this one incident was quite easy for her and she did it.

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I bought this book - "Get Out Of My Life" to understand my teenage son years ago. Of the various tips, one that stayed with me was that your teenage child is continually struggling between his/her 'adult self' and 'child self'. In school, in front of his friends, peers, teachers and for that matter everyone else, he/she must be in the 'adult' mode because that's what most people expect them to be - young adults. They can only be their 'child self' when they are at home and specifically in front of their parents. This helped me understand why I get nothing but praises from my son's teachers about how mature he is when it absolutely contradicts the behavior he exhibits at home.

I don't know if this answers your question. Over time, I become more forgiving of these lapses as long as they are temporary and the 'child' mentality does not become a crutch. I even indulge him at times especially when I sense he might be having a tough time.

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@outofthisworld Thanks for the good point the book made. I feel that the book is quite right, except that with my children and this twyeat, in particular, they don't go in for much 'child' behaviour when it comes to getting themselves up and off to wherever. It must have been one of those times the kid just forgot to be an adult! πŸ˜† I guess that if I'd cottoned on sooner that she was still not up and out of the house (they do sneak out most of the time) I'd have done my due diligence and acted like 'mom' in waking her up. I've yet to ask her how late she was for class. 😈

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Not your responsibility if you usually don't wake them up or there is a schedule change. And I think it starts once they make the decision to change the schedule. And twyeat is a great term.

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LOL! Thanks for liking my made up word!!

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She’ll learn. She probably was just upset at herself and blamed you anyway. I have not gotten my kids up for school for the past year and they’re 10 and 12. They also are responsible for packing their lunches, taking their medications, and making sure all their homework is packed. I don’t remind them if anything except if they have violin or piano that day so they pack those books as well. Because I’m not taking off work to grab piano books or a violin. They’ve forgotten computers and homework at times but rarely. Because we just don’t have the time to run home and bring things to them if they’re forgotten. I was just talking to a patient about when she was recently in Tokyo visiting her former exchange student. Her son who is in Kindergarten takes two subways and a city bus to school every day by himself and the commute is an hour. He has to get on the right transportation vehicle not once but 6 times, every day. Navigating between millions of other people much bigger than he is. I can’t even imagine. So, if you get lip, tell her that 6 year olds are getting to school on time by themselves, without any parental intervention navigating the organized chaos that is the Tokyo transport system.

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From a fellow twyeat: At my age of twyeatness I believe I should be responsible enough to manage my own life schedules. So not mom's responsibility. But sometimes, it's nice to have my mom wake me up. My mom will always be my mom after all, and it's comforting to have her be responsible for me at times. We never know when a twyeat will grow into a full fledged adult and not want mom's involvement with anything.

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When my oldest son turned 12 it was like someone had traded my sweetheart, kind to his siblings, child for a monster spawn.
And (sorry to say) about the time he grew up so that I could stand to have him around was right before he left to live on his own.

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I’ve heard about the tyrannical twelves. Just waiting for my son to figure it out!

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Who likes to read and doesn't despise children's literature here's one of the latest (2016) on the market:

Beetle Boy by M.G.Leonard.

It's a beautiful story of friendship, trust, environmental issues, lost of loved ones and dealing with life. Great adventure with plenty of imagination and scary science.

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What a pleasant surprise to come across your recommendation. I'll check it out for good variety. I'm reading "Ask A North Korean" and "RESPECT: The Life of Aretha Franklin."

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Ask a North Korean must be interesting because we don't have too many information of this nation lost in "paradise". I would love if they create an electronic library sort of where you pay annually small amount and can have any book borrowed for two weeks time.

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Marathoned Your Honour last week. Finally, I am interested in a drama Yoon Shi Yoon is in. And it is good! Haven't catch up on this week episode. I think I will wait until it ended so that I can binge watch it.

Watch the new thriller/horror drama, Hand: The Guest. Super creepy but so good. Kinda glad I watch it in the daylight. πŸ˜‚ Although I think I will watch the next episode during my night shift at the hospital.

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I agree Your Honor is better than most of the comments I've read suggest. I love YSY!

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