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The Guest: Episode 8

If you’ve missed being inundated with spooky spirits, then this is the episode for you. The mystery surrounding Park Il-do continues, but this time it involves another child psychic. With our intrepid trio doing all they can to fight supernatural evil, will they also be able to prevent history from repeating itself?

 
EPISODE 8 RECAP

Hwa-pyung wakes up to a voice angrily telling him that “It’s all because of him,” but it’s not Park Il-do — it’s just his gangster cellmate talking in his sleep. Kil-young and Yoon stop by the police station and give Hwa-pyung grief for getting arrested; pointing out that this is the consequence of him acting so rashly.

Hwa-pyung defends himself, since he’s still convinced Park Il-do is in Hong-joo, and he would do anything to get rid of the evil spirit. Yoon wonders why Hwa-pyung is so obsessed with Park Il-do — they’ve all lost their families thanks to the evil spirit, but as far as he knows, Hwa-pyung was simply possessed as a child.

Instead of answering, Hwa-pyung tells them to keep an eye on Hong-joo. As Yoon and Kil-young leave the police station, Yoon says they should just keep Hwa-pyung in jail for his own good, since it would be safer that way.

To no one’s surprise, Yoon decides to work alone. Kil-young points out that they need Hwa-pyung to help them figure out who’s possessed, but Yoon stubbornly says he’ll figure it out himself.

Detective Go notes his partner’s grumpy attitude, teasingly asking if it’s about a guy. She retorts that it’s because of two idiots, actually. Ha! But then she’s stunned when her boss tells her to hand over all her information regarding Mi-jin’s case to the local authorities.

Kil-young is furious that all her efforts will just be given away, but she’s in no position to argue — although she tries, protesting that Noh-seok didn’t kill Hyun-joo twenty years ago, despite what the other authorities say. It’s hard to fight against the rational assumption that Noh-seok killed Mi-jin to cover up his supposed crime from back then.

Priest Yang invites Yoon to dinner (and Yoon eyes him carefully as the older priest pours a hearty glass of soju). Priest Yang inquires about Hwa-pyung, and Yoon grumbles that he doesn’t know why Hwa-pyung is so obsessed with Park Il-do, since — unlike Yoon and Kil-young — Hwa-pyung didn’t lose his entire family to the spirit.

The older priest gently corrects Yoon, telling him about Hwa-pyung’s possession which caused his mother to drown and his grandmother to hang herself. Yoon’s shocked, since Hwa-pyung never mentioned it before. Then he asks Priest Yang to help him meet with Hong-joo.

Yoon begs her to drop the charges against Hwa-pyung, but Hong-joo muses that she’s looked into Hwa-pyung and his background, and wants to know who this “Park Il-do” is. Priest Yang gently explains Hwa-pyung’s possession as a child and everything that resulted from it, but Hong-joo laughs at the idea that Hwa-pyung believes she’s possessed.

Hong-joo says that she won’t drop the charges because she doesn’t trust that Hwa-pyung — who she calls crazy — won’t try to find her again. Yoon takes responsibility for Hwa-pyung, telling her that Hwa-pyung might be a bit unstable, but he at least listens to Yoon. Then Yoon tells her that he was able to prevent Hwa-pyung from going to reporters with his theory that Hong-joo was involved with Hyun-joo’s death.

Threat of bad press is enough of a bargaining chip for Hong-joo — or it’s enough to convince her that Yoon will control Hwa-pyung — so she drops the charges. Aw, he looks so happy to see Kil-young waiting for him outside the police station.

He’s shocked to realize that his freedom is due to Yoon, since he assumed Yoon wanted nothing more to do with him. Kil-young still warns him to stay away from Hong-joo, reminding him that if he ends up in jail again, he won’t be able to catch Park Il-do.

Hwa-pyung walks home, a little tipsy from the beers Kil-young bought him. He realizes a car is following him so he stops and confronts the driver. It’s one of the gangster cellmates who was freed at the same time he was. The gangster warns Hwa-pyung to leave Hong-joo alone — or else.

But Hwa-pyung says that the gangster should stop following him — or else. He calls Kil-young, letting her know about his new stalker, but she just reiterates that Hwa-pyung needs to stay away from Hong-joo.

Yoon goes to the psychiatric hospital to find out more information about Noh-seok, particularly who the last people were to visit him. The nurse tells him that would have been Kil-young and Hwa-pyung. The day after they visited, Noh-seok went for one of his usual walks, but looked like he was having a seizure as he flailed and screamed at something nonexistent in the trees.

While studying the spot where Noh-seok saw something terrifying, Yoon gets a call from Kil-young. He tells her about Noh-seok and his belief that the man encountered Park Il-do when Noh-seok went for a walk. Coincidentally, at that time Hong-joo was in town attending an event elsewhere.

Maybe it’s not a coincidence? But the only way for them to determine if she’s possessed is to confirm that Hong-joo is blind in her right eye. And they can’t exactly confront her like Hwa-pyung did.

Speaking of Hwa-pyung, he’s resting at his grandfather’s home. Grandpa’s worried because Hwa-pyung doesn’t look well, and wonders if Hwa-pyung has girl troubles. Hwa-pyung sighs that he was, indeed, dumped, and that he thought he’d won that person’s heart, but they ran away. Are… are we talking about his partnership with Yoon? Because I hope we are.

Hwa-pyung also has questions about when he was possessed as a child, but Grandpa dismisses them. Their lunch is interrupted when a neighbor begs Grandpa to look at her granddaughter, since she’s convinced her granddaughter is possessed.

Grandpa tells her he’s no longer in the shaman business, and hushes her when she frantically says it’s just like when Park Il-do came to the village twenty years ago. Grandpa finally shoos her away, but Hwa-pyung is definitely curious, especially since she name-dropped Park Il-do. He visits the woman later, who marvels at how well he’s grown.

But Hwa-pyung wants to know about her granddaughter’s symptoms. The woman explains the girl can see things that no one else can, notably the spirits of people who have died. Most recently — and the major cause for concern — was that the granddaughter recently answered the door with a knife in hand, warning that something terrible was there. Except there was no one at the door.

Hwa-pyung tries to visit the girl, but the girl’s mother is annoyed that Grandma has sent what she assumes to be another shaman, and tells Hwa-pyung to get lost. As Hwa-pyung stands outside the apartment building and calls the grandmother, a man standing outside, waving up to a window, is suddenly killed by a falling rock.

This actually is Kil-young’s jurisdiction, and she and Detective Go arrive on scene to investigate. When Kil-young realizes that one of her witnesses is Hwa-pyung, she drags him off to the side to speak to him privately.

She demands to know why he’s there, and he tells her about the little girl who might be possessed by Park Il-do — it was her father who was just killed.

At least that gives Kil-young another purpose to her investigation, as she and Detective Go question the mother, Lee Hye-kyung. Kil-young says that according to witnesses, her husband was waving to his daughter the moment he died, and asks to meet with the little girl. But the woman won’t budge and orders the detectives to leave.

Further investigation reveals that Hye-kyung and her husband often fought, particularly over the subject of their daughter, and they had been living separately. Detective Go finds it strange that Kil-young is so focused on the child, but finds it even stranger when CCTV footage shows Hwa-pyung visiting the apartment moments before the man died.

Kil-young tries to cover for Hwa-pyung and redirects Detective Go’s suspicions to Hye-kyung’s strange reactions to their questions. Hye-kyung studies the spot where her husband died, realizing that he was standing just beneath their balcony.

Nervous and worried, she grabs a paring knife from her daughter’s hand as the girl’s attempts to cut an apple. Grandma arrives, convinced that her son-in-law died because of her granddaughter, Seo-yoon, being possessed, but Hye-kyung screams at her mother to leave it alone.

Even so, Grandma sneaks Seo-yoon out of the apartment so that they can meet with Hwa-pyung and Yook Kwang. Hwa-pyung tells the girl that he used to be just like her when he was younger, since he could see spirits, too, and then asks what she can see.

Reluctantly, Seo-yoon describes the first spirit she ever saw, a woman in old-fashioned clothes. Yook Kwang concludes that Seo-yoon was possessed and will need an exorcism.

Except Seo-yoon says she hasn’t seen that spirit in a while, and it wasn’t a scary spirit, unlike the ones she’s been seeing lately. They keep following her with knives in their hands. They tell her to help them kill everyone, and if she does, she’ll be protected. Hwa-pyung asks who she’ll be protected by, and Seo-yoon says, “Park Il-do.”

That’s enough to send Hwa-pyung to Yoon and, despite Yoon not wanting to talk to Hwa-pyung, he can’t ignore the fact that a little girl might be possessed by Park Il-do.

At the police station, Kil-young questions Hye-kyung about her separation from her husband. Kil-young points out that most of their arguments centered on their daughter, and asks if there is something wrong with Seo-yoon. Hye-kyung screams that their daughter is perfectly fine.

Meanwhile, Yoon and Hwa-pyung are with Seo-yoon and her grandmother. Yoon carefully tests to see if Seo-yoon is possessed, but the girl doesn’t react to the crucifix he puts in her hand. Yoon continues to question her about the spirits she can see, and Seo-yoon reveals that it all started a couple of months ago.

She first saw the scary spirit on her way home from school — it stood across the street and stared at her, raising its knife. Then later another one was standing outside the apartment building and tried to follow her into the elevator. And the most recent one was just outside her apartment. But she always ran away and hid — they never actually entered her home.

Yoon determines that Seo-yoon is in the process of being possessed, but isn’t possessed yet. Hwa-pyung is relieved, since he was afraid Seo-yoon killed her father. As Yoon watches Hwa-pyung happily cheer up Seo-yoon, he remembers what Priest Yang told him about Hwa-pyung’s family dying when Hwa-pyung was possessed.

Seo-yoon tells Hwa-pyung and Yoon that her mother didn’t believe Seo-yoon could really see the spirits. She adds that she could see a spirit of a young woman following her father, but he told her not to tell anyone. It was the arguments her parents had about that particular spirit that caused her parents to separate.

Hye-kyung arrives home just then and is furious that Grandma brought a priest and Hwa-pyung (who she believes is a shaman) to see her daughter. She opens the door and yells at them to get out, but Seo-yoon suddenly starts backing up in fear. She can see a grinning spirit just outside the door.

Realizing that she can see a spirit, Hwa-pyung relays that information to Yoon, who grabs the girl and tells her to look away. But Seo-yoon suddenly screams at Yoon, ordering him to take his hands off her in a very possessed-person way.

Yoon presses his crucifix agains the girl’s head and she shrieks as she falls to the ground, her skin burning. With Hwa-pyung’s help, they briefly exorcise the girl, believing that the spirit she just saw immediately entered her. Within minutes, Seo-yoon is back to her old self and is surprised to see her mother there.

Hye-kyung can’t believe her daughter is possessed, and Yoon offers to find her an exorcist priest, since he’s still technically not allowed to perform a full exorcism. Hwa-pyung asks if she’s ever seen Hong-joo before, but neither mother nor daughter have met the congresswoman, and they haven’t heard of Sharing Hand.

That certainly puts a wrinkle in their “Hong-joo is Park Il-do” theory. Even so, Yoon tells Hwa-pyung to stay out of it. But, of course, Hwa-pyung can’t. And not just because of his obsession with Park Il-do, but because the little girl reminds him of when he was a little boy and Park Il-do possessed him.

Yoon’s worried that Seo-yoon might have killed her father, but Hwa-pyung is adamant that she’s innocent. The real question is whether or not he believes it because he thinks it’s true, or because he doesn’t want to admit that a possessed child could kill family members — like he might have done as a child himself.

Detective Go and Kil-young are still combing through CCTV footage to figure out who killed Seo-yoon’s father. Detective Go thinks it strange that Hwa-pyung keeps appearing at the scene of these weird cases, and he gets goosebumps when Hwa-pyung calls at the exact moment Detective Go is talking about him. Ha!

Hwa-pyung needs Kil-young’s help to track down a woman who might have died in relation to Seo-yoon’s father, since the spirit Seo-yoon described only appeared when her father drove.

Meanwhile, Yoon brings an official exorcism priest to Seo-yoon. The other priest doesn’t believe Seo-yoon is possessed, since she didn’t react to his tests. When Yoon tells him he’s already confirmed the girl’s possession, the other priest chides him for working outside the official parish rules and performing exorcisms without permission, just like his old mentor, Priest Han.

Yoon weakly protests that he didn’t technically exorcise the girl, and pleads with the other priest to stay since he knows this spirit will only end up killing the person it eventually possesses. But the other priest is having none of Yoon’s recklessness and tells him that there’s no point in staying until the church can officially confirm Seo-yoon’s possession.

Hwa-pyung — who impatiently waited outside — furiously tells Yoon that he’s sick of all these ridiculous rules and protocols the church enforces. Yoon retorts that these rules and principles are important and that the priesthood takes their ordination seriously, and that exorcism isn’t a game.

Hwa-pyung points out that Seo-yoon might die and starts to leave to find someone else who will save her, but Yoon shocks him by saying that he’ll do it.

At the police station, the detectives sift through Seo-yoon’s father’s phone. They find it odd that, not only was there no sign that he was cheating on his wife, but he barely texted or called anyone at all. However, they find that he would go to the same spot every day and take a selfie.

Kil-young visits that spot, the site of a hit-and-run accident according to the large banner that requests any information from potential witnesses. She discovers that the victim was a young woman who was wearing the same clothes as the female spirit that would stalk Seo-yoon’s father.

Yoon and Hwa-pyung return to the apartment with Yoon’s suitcase of holy items. Aw, Hwa-pyung is suddenly adorably concerned for Yoon, worried that if the parish council finds out about this illegal exorcism, he could be defrocked. Yoon coolly says he’ll take care of himself.

Kil-young calls to let them know about Seo-yoon’s father being involved in the hit-and-run accident. She finds it strange that he would visit the hit-and-run site every day, and that he would then go to his daughter’s home and wave at her through the window.

Seo-yoon’s asleep when she hears a tapping on the window. There’s no one outside however, but the tapping persists. Seo-yoon screams for her mother, saying that it’s trying to come inside. When Grandma steps out on the balcony to investigate, Seo-yoon screams at her to not open the window.

Grandma reassures Seo-yoon that nothing’s there, but when Seo-yoon looks down from the balcony, she sees a spirit grinning up at her, holding a knife. Seo-yoon hurries to a suitcase hidden under bed and opens it, revealing a large rock. She desperately explains that this is the only way to get rid of the spirit, and Hye-kyung realizes that Seo-yoon killed her father, believing him to be a spirit.

In the security room, the trio watch CCTV footage of Seo-yoon’s father entering the apartment building, something he did every few days despite no longer living there. They watch the footage of the man standing eerily in the hallway, which was the same time when Seo-yoon said she saw a creepy ghost standing outside their apartment.

Hwa-pyung realizes that when Seo-yoon was seeing spirits, she was actually seeing the spirits that were possessing her father. He was the one who stood outside her school and who followed her home.

This all must have started when he killed that girl in the hit-and-run. But if he’s dead, then the spirits Seo-yoon sees now are looking for a new body — and the body of a child psychic is the perfect vessel.

Hye-kyung and her mother are still rattled by the discovery that Seo-yoon killed her father. Seo-yoon dazedly watches them as the two women talk in worried, hushed voices, until she hears a knock on the door. She answers it, but no one’s there — at least no one that we can see.

But for Seo-yoon, there’s a horde of spirits filling the doorway, begging to be let in. They follow her to the bedroom.

 
COMMENTS

Ooohhhh, what a good episode. I’ll admit that of all the horror tropes, kids being creepy is one of my least favorite because I find it to be so utterly terrifying, so this episode definitely felt a little spookier than the ones that have gone before. I’m already worried about the next episode, since I don’t think Seo-yoon will be able to resist that horrible array of spirits longing to possess her. Additionally, if Park Il-do ever possesses a child’s doll, I’m outta here for good. However, I was really intrigued by the twist that the spirits she saw were actually in her father (who is the same actor, by the way, who played Ha-rim’s reaper-possessed father in Black, so I guess he’s found his type-cast niche). This means our trio isn’t back to square one when it comes to Hong-joo and Park Il-do, but will need to focus their attention on how Seo-yoon’s father is connected to Sharing Hand (because he’s gotta be, somehow).

I also really liked this episode because it gives Hwa-pyung a chance to redeem himself. He sees a young psychic girl going through the exact same things he did as a child, so if he can save her, he can, in a way, save himself. Except he’s already too late to save one parent, who was clearly killed by Seo-yoon, no matter how much Hwa-pyung denies it. He’s probably been living with the lie — whether it’s a lie to himself or the lie his grandfather told him — that his mother committed suicide, just like his grandmother. Hwa-pyung is going to have to deal with some serious emotional baggage once he realizes that a possessed child who is so reminiscent of himself could kill, because he’ll be forced to face the fact that he also killed while he was possessed. While we still don’t officially know what happened, this does seem to support the theory that Hwa-pyung pushed his mother over the ledge and killed her.

My other favorite moment in this episode was Yoon deciding to illegally (or, at least, outside of the church’s jurisdiction) perform an exorcism. Yes, he could be defrocked, but considering he primarily became a priest to find and save his brother, he really doesn’t have much to lose now that we know Priest Choi died years ago. Yoon being an exorcist priest won’t save his brother now — but Yoon can save other people from the spirit that destroyed his brother, even if it means going against protocol. I wonder if Yoon thinks he’s also, in a way, saving Hwa-pyung, since he now knows about Hwa-pyung’s history with Park Il-do and what happened when he was possessed. (Is it weird that I’m almost as obsessed about this budding bromance as Hwa-pyung is about Hong-joo being Park Il-do? No? I didn’t think so, either.)

Finally, so much love for my darling Kil-young, who proves she’s the most intelligent and rational since she’s already figured out how the trio fits together with their various roles. She knows that in order to truly get rid of the evil spirits that kill innocent people, they need Hwa-pyung’s visions and psychic intuition to let them know who is possessed, her detective skills and access to information about the possessed person, and Yoon’s faith and ability to perform exorcisms. They won’t be able to track down and defeat Park Il-do by themselves, and I’m thrilled that everyone (particularly the hot-headed Hwa-pyung and stubborn Yoon) seems to have finally, honest-to-goodness, no-more-arguing-about-going-solo, accepted this fact. It feels strange to admit that a gruesome mystery-horror-thriller gives me warm fuzzies, but when I see the trio working together — supplementing each other’s weaknesses and encouraging each other’s strengths — it makes me so incredibly happy.

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@odilettante Thank you for the recap of this episode. Not gonna lie, this is really creepy episode. It was really nerve wracking to see all those ghosts follow the little girl. At the ending was really scary and creeping that she saw those ghosts and let them follow her into the bedroom. From the next preview, it will be be tame if they have music of Father Mateo going to the building or super scary and creepy when he goes to the building with no music. We shall see!!!

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Felt the same thing... It was 10.30 PM when I finished watching this episode with all kind of ghosts were following Seo-yoon, and I was like... "what the heck is this?" I felt like watching the wrong serial in the wrong time.

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Thank you for the recap. I am also living for this bromance between Yoon and Hwa-pyung and I adore Kil-young being miss competent and levelheaded to the boys crazy antics. The little girl who plays Seo-yoon is so so talented, I was really in awe of her performance in this episode. I think Hong-joo isn't possessed, she's just a bad person.

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if Park Il-do ever possesses a child’s doll, I’m outta here for good

Uhh, thanks for planting that thought in my head @odilettante. Also, hard same. Dear writer, please don't do this, anything but possessed dolls, anything.

Is it weird that I’m almost as obsessed about this budding bromance as Hwa-pyung is about Hong-joo being Park Il-do? No? I didn’t think so, either. Are other people not obsessed with this? *looks around the beanieverse*

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dont worry! pretty sure many of us gets a little too excited and happy while watching a horror drama when it comes to their bromance moments
hahaha.. I know I did

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@egads, @odilettante,

I confess! I confess! Not the creepy, possessed dolls! I'll take Flying Monkeys any day over possessed dolls and ventriloquist dummies. ;-)

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Thank you for the recap! The guest has so far maintained a level of suspense that I love. I am enjoying the clues slowly falling into place and can't wait to discover more. Like why is Hong-Joo evil? I want to know what pushes someone to kill a mute high school girl.

And I am so glad to see the little girl from Call Me Mother again. She is such a good actress. I really felt for her when she realized she killed her father and then opened the door to the spirits. The poor sweet probably just wanted to forget the accident ever happened. :(

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I'll say.. today is a prefect time to read a recap and then watch a new episode tonight~ back to back horror is what makes my Thursday & Friday so lively nowdays XD

Glad that I-still-dont-trust-you-alcoholic-priest decided to tell Yoon the whole story about HP. I honestly thought Yoon and KGY knew but when Yoon questioned HP about it, I realized that HP never said anything on that. The ending scene is sad tho. I feel like she finally give in/invite them after listening her mom & gram talking negativity about her. Poor kid. Fighting them off for so long but I guess that is how they got us. By manipulating feeling/weakness at that moment. But this will makes her a formidable opponent to the trio tho. Yoon tho, ermm... I see you lying Yoon, with PHJ~ gosh..HP is not a good influence, lol But glad that their relationship as trio is getting better.

on HP, his possession story is still a bit of a mystery isnt it? Grandpa really avoiding talking about it but I dont think it was because of what happened to mom & grandma tho? I wonder what exactly happened that time? Did grandpa did something to force PID out? Did grandpa knew what actually happened to mom & grandma? Arghhh.... I NEED to know~ Feels like this is the time to revisit @waadmay or @greenfields theories? (sorry, I forgot who initiate the theory discussion in what ep thread...)

Fangirl moment: Kinda crazy that I actually pause this episode just to spazz during that scene? (at grandpa house) I mean, am I about to get a bromance to replace temperature of love's bromance? I.am.ready.
lmao
and thank you for giving us another scene of Yoon in normal clothing. I take it as a band aid for this week's preview?

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Hwa Young's possession story is a massive mystery indeed. And I suspect it'll be revealed only in later episodes, and may be one of the central plot threads. Also I bet there will be a PLOT TWIST.

Warning: Wild Speculation Ahead.
Hwa Pyung is still possessed by Park Il Do! That's why he can see what his minion spirits are doing when they get particularly gleeful ie. when they're killing people.

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Maybe something like a Voldemort style horcrux?

I'm not completely convinced Hwa Pyung was ever possessed, but maybe I should rewatch episode one. So much happened in that first hour, and the direction was such to purposefully keep us disoriented, so I'm sure I missed lots.

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True. I keep going back to that episode after each revelations and feels I still miss something. It is like we need to dissect that episode by seconds instead of minute of each scene 😅😅😅

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Hehe I'm not convinced either, but a Voldemort style horcrux is entirely within the realm of possibility! 😱 So those are not minions but Park Il Do himself.

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I'm with you egads. I don't think Hwa Pyung was really ever possessed. Especially after the little girl, I think that PID tried to possess him but failed and moved into a different host.

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Ohhh.... 😱😱😱😱
Imagine the chaos if that happen.

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I thought about it but now I think we give PID too much credit, because for what we see for now, he isn't particularly cunning, his action was to bring death and mayhem wherever he was and all the victim of possession show some signs of it.

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This is a very good point. I do think they're going to show Park Il Do as having some intelligence though - otherwise it'd be boring? Hmm...I've never considered this before. Are spirits stupid? Can we beat them with intelligence? Hmmm... hmm...interesting idea.

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And as far as we know when demon possess willing host like mechanic brother, they seems to remove any inhibitions he had, so he went full serial killer mode, so maybe the targets are more connected to hosts than spirit himself too?

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@greenfields, I would not put it past Park Il-do to be hiding in plain sight. If he is indeed still infesting Hwa-pyung, then maybe all the other victims have been possessed by his minions.

And I still don't know whether, as a bigger, badder evil spirit, PID cannot bilocate or inhabit more than one host at a time.

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I do think we can safely expect him to be hiding in plain sight? That was the assuMption behind my wild speculation anyway.

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I think granpa don't want to talk to protect HP and because it's a painful topic to him to, he basically lost entire family because of this, his wife and daughter in law dead, his son tried to kill his grandson and now missing, and HP uncle dead too, and still grandpa do everything he could to try to give HP as normal upbringing as possible.

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I've been wondering this for a while, but is Hwa Pyung an old fashioned name?

This is going to sound ridiculous I'm sure, but all these kpop stars and actors are named (to my ears) something "easy" to pronounce, short names. Yoon-gi, Joon-ki, Jae-Wook, Hyun, Hee-chul, Min-ho, Ki-bum, and so on. Somehow Hwa Pyung doesn't sound as cool? I really don't know what is making me think this. *aims frying pan at self*

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Are most of these stage names? Because it wouldn't surprise me if the Korean Arts conglomerates were purposefully choosing names that are easily pronounced by international audiences. Hwa Pyung does not slide easily off my English speaking tongue due to the combination of consonants beginning each name, but Yoon-gi, piece of cake. And bonus, it's easy to remember with it's two syllables.

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I think most of the names I thought of are using their birth names. But it maybe that such names - names that are easily pronounced internationally - are trendy right now? For instance in India, our names are normally words from the language. Something as simple as "Aakash" meaning sky. But these days, "First World Yoga names" or names that have no such meaning/are not taken from the language are rather popular (like my own RL name). I don't mean this as Korean people thinking highly of international peeps or anything. Just a speculation on naming trends. Hwa Pyung sounds like a name an older actor may have. But a younger one, like Uhm Hong Sik who changed his name to Yoo Ah In, may not keep.

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Some of their real name actually quite old fashion. Probably because HP is from shaman family, maybe they focus on the meaning that related to their family (business? fate?)*. What is the meaning of his name anyway?

*remind me of a friend that has a name to ward off evil because of his family situation.

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Ooh that really could be it. Does it mean "business fate"? *Is blown away*

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I've been wondering about the meaning of Hwa-pyung's name, too. Here's some info on Sino-Korean names. Without knowing the hanja, you cannot tell the exact meaning.

I posted links on my fan wall to a 4-part series on Korean names. As you suspected, when this series was written, there was a trend towards soft-sounding names that flowed off the tongue for both men and women, so that may be why the seer's name feels old-fashioned. The 4th part specifically deals with strange, old-fashioned, and unfortunate names. Ahn Nae-sang fans may be interested in the story behind his name. The comments are interesting, too. Enjoy. ;-)

Here are some possibilities for the meaning of Hwa-pyung's names.

HWA:
https://www.behindthename.com/name/hua

GENDER: Feminine & Masculine
USAGE: Chinese
OTHER SCRIPTS: 华, 花, etc. (Chinese)

From Chinese 华 (huá) meaning "splendid, illustrious, Chinese" or 花 (huā) meaning "flower, blossom" (which is usually only feminine). Other Chinese characters can form this name as well.

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PYUNG:
https://www.behindthename.com/name/byeong01ho

GENDER: Masculine
USAGE: Korean
OTHER SCRIPTS: 병호 (Korean Hangul), 炳浩, 炳昊, etc

From Sino-Korean 炳 (byeong) meaning "bright, luminous, glorious" combined with 浩 (ho) meaning "great, numerous, vast" or 昊 (ho) meaning "summer, sky, heaven". Other hanja character combinations are possible.
VARIANTS: Byung-Ho, Pyong-Ho

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OH wow! Thanks for this!
Tagging @egads and @hanie who replied above and may be interested.

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this is cool, and speaks to my nerdy heart. Thanks for the info @pakalanapikake, and thanks for the tag @greenfields

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@greenfields, @egads,

You're most welcome. ;-)

I often wonder about the meaning of Korean names in Kdramas because of wordplay (as in the title OH HAE-YOUNG AGAIN, which was a pun on the title character's given names and "problem" -- LOL!!

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I found funny that Kil Young has to be the reasonable one in the trio :D

I'm happy they know Haw Pyung's story. He lost his mum and grandma and his father disapeared after trying to killing him.

We didn't learn too much on PID. But I like the stories when they help someone.

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But have we really heard Hwa-pyung's true story?

Who's to say that Hwa-pyung killed his mom and grandma? Maybe he has been unjustly blamed. Dad could have done it, and certainly would have had the height and physical strength that the little boy lacked.

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I didn't say he killed them. But that he lost them because of PID. PID destroyed the family of the three of them.

I agree that his past is not clear for now.

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Right. I didn't express that very well. You did not say that Hwa-pyung killed his mom and grandma. Whether he literally killed them, or his possession by PID drove them to despair and commit suicide, we don't yet know.

What bothers me is a little boy's being scapegoated, and his father's attempt to kill him. Plus Dad has been conspicuously absent for many years.

I think that there was discussion by the trio of beginning anew with their investigation into Priest Choi's movements after he left Hwa-pyung's family home. Everyone knows that Grandpa has stayed put all these years.

Wouldn't it stand to reason that they should investigate Dad's trail as well? It's not clear to me when he left. Kil-young could treat it as a missing person case. Oh, right. Wrong jurisdiction.

Since physical evidence such as CCTV footage of rural roads from that time might not exist, perhaps Hwa-pyung could use his second sight, with some coaching from Yook Gwang, to locate Dad. He's the only other family witness who was present. (Although I shudder at the idea of psychically making contact with him.)

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I think that just like little girl in this episode remind us of HP, her mother is representation of his father.

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I don't really understand the father. He was the one from the Shaman Family but he never believed his son and never supported him. When the grandma, the grandpa and the mother believed Hwa Pyung.

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This scene with rock killing girl's father make me jump out of scare, it was so unexpected and graphic. And I'm bit afraid for Yoon because I feel that writers have something not very pleasant waiting for him in the future although I was really frustrated with him when he was so surprised when he found out about HP traumatic experience, like you are exorcist you saw what happens to people who get possessed and now you are surprised that something similar happened to HP, geez louise. But I love how Kil Young is now glue that keep the team together and keep use her rationale and detective skills despite being newbie.

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Thanks for the recap @odilettante and now after reading it I think it's safe to say that I truly believe that PID isn't infact possessing either PHJ or priest Yang and is possessing someone else , which I thought was suspicious from the moment we were shown that PHJ is connected to sharing hand and the possessed people .
I hope after watching this week's episodes will shed more light about this .

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Thanks @odilettante.
I still find this show consistently good, as it takes us viewers from point to point to investigate and discover more with our fave trio. It' all continues to be coherent and 'facts' fall into place. We just need to figure out though, the correct order of events to know who's being possessed, and by whom! But that's the fun of this show, that keeps us in the dark together with the trio, and gives us the joy of guesswork!

I felt for Hwa Pyung as he adamantly, desperately insisted that Seo Yoon was innocent. He's been battling that guilt all these years, to the extent that he did not even tell Yoon and KY about his own loss of family to PID.

I like the light moments of Det Go being suspicious of HP and KY trying to distract him from that line of enquiry. I do wish though that Det Go could be brought into the fold to know what he's helping KY battle against. It would be good, I feel, for Det Go to be more prepared.

And...

... when I see the trio working together — supplementing each other’s weaknesses and encouraging each other’s strengths — it makes me so incredibly happy.

Ditto, ditto, including the warm fuzzies. I guess, knowing that these 3 have been through loss and horror, and seeing that they are resilient enough to rebound, and to stand up and fight is so satisfying ... Add to that the cherry on the top: these 3 who were practically enemies, who could (and did) blame each other for their misfortunes, (afterall the spirits taunted that they would kill each other), have chosen instead to cooperate and trust each other for their common objective(s) and to protect others. That's the source of the warm fuzzies. The higher human spirit that bests the lowly, though seemingly more powerful demon spirits, and works towards the good in spite of all. Good humans Fighting!!! 😄

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That ending though! Bunch of ugly and unwanted guests.

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Still the scariest drama out there. I had to stop myself halfway through episode 8 and watched the rest the next day when it's daylight outside. I cannot watch this at night, it's too scary. Kid-ghost is the most scary of all. The last scene when all of the ghost followed her inside just give me the goosebumps. Can't wait to see more! It's so scary, yet so addictive at the same time.

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Thanks for your dandy recap, odilettante! For some reason, I had difficulty connecting with the Hyun-joo case, in particular Hong-joo and the former security guard. Such was not the case with this episode.

An extra-special thank you for identifying Seo-yeon’s possessed dad. The actor looked so familiar it was bugging me. As soon as I read it, I recalled he played Ha-ram's honorable police officer dad who was a grim reaper on the lam -- the one who looked into her mother's eyes after her husband was killed in the auto accident right after their wedding -- which is how Ha-ram got her ability to see spirits. (Talk about a meta reference!) Dad was the police officer who inspired the business administration student Mu-gang (Song Seung-heon, currently starring in THE PLAYER) to become an upright detective, IIRC. He did a great job touchingly portraying that tragic character. http://asianwiki.com/Kim_Hyung-Min_(1983)

Ha-rim was Kim Dong-wook's character in COFFEE PRINCE – with a single-character difference between the spelling of his name and that of the female lead in BLACK. Help! Someone please dispatch Yoon, Hwa-pyung, and Yook Gwang to New Jersey. My mind is possessed by Kdrama trivia. ;-)

I agree with you about the team's finally coming together. It gives me warm fuzzies, too. Finally Yoon knows Hwa-pyung's full story (at least as far as anyone is privy to the slippery truth at this point). I loved how his attitude turned on a dime when he learned what Hwa-pyung had been through as a child. And I loved his line of questioning as to the psychic's possible ulterior motives for insisting that little Seo-yeon was innocent of killing her father because she was demonically possessed at the time. He has consistently questioned people to determine their conscious intent, and he questions himself the same way – which is why he initially refused to conduct the exorcism and found another priest who was qualified.

I have never, ever gotten the sense that Hwa-pyung has tried to absolve himself of killing his mother and grandmother. His sense of guilt and ceaseless search for Priest Choi has consumed his life for many years. Those actions strike me as motivated by the desire for atonement, even if it were for something over which he had no control. He cannot bring back either of the deceased. But he knows only too well the burden of guilt at having been used as a tool in the hands of demons, and has been doing everything in his power to spare others, in particular children, the same fate. He is throwing a life line to other demonically-victimized humans, and in effect “paying it forward.”

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Now I feel a compulsion to nitpick and state that a parish council has no authority in regard to exorcisms, although I can understand how it would be concerned about bad publicity. Exorcism is the bishop's purview. If Yoon persists in his insubordination, he risks the priestly equivalent of being benched (i.e., prohibited from performing sacramental duties and sent off to a monastery to examine his conscience for an extended period of time), but not automatic expulsion, as far as I know. Probably an investigation would be conducted according to canon law, much like those that are part of the process of canonization of saints.

Since Hwa-pyung has voiced his concern for Yoon's risking expulsion by continuing to perform unauthorized exorcisms, and other Beanies may likewise be concerned, I'll play devil's advocate here. This is the first defense that came to mind. I cannot think of a more unassailable precedent, which should take care of the spirit-of-the-law versus letter-of-the-law issue. I believe Yoon would be able to successfully defend himself by citing Jesus' retort to the Pharisees who silently took him to task for breaking the Sabbath in Luke 14:1-6:

1One Sabbath, when Jesus went to eat in the house of a prominent Pharisee, he was being carefully watched. 2There in front of him was a man suffering from abnormal swelling of his body. 3Jesus asked the Pharisees and experts in the law, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath or not?” 4But they remained silent. So taking hold of the man, he healed him and sent him on his way.
5Then he asked them, “If one of you has a child [in some manuscripts: donkey] or an ox that falls into a well on the Sabbath day, will you not immediately pull it out?” 6And they had nothing to say.

https://biblehub.com/niv/luke/14.htm

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I would like to address the team's invisible fourth member. Initially portrayed as a worldly sort who is also a fraidy cat, he is actually courageous and resourceful in battling brutal and diabolically-subtle discarnate entities infesting mortals. He is often overlooked, but his contributions have saved their bacon more than once. That is fortuneteller Yook Gwang, who goes well beyond merely discerning the future, and sure as heck looks like a baksu to me. He is the trained shaman equivalent of ordained Catholic exorcist Yoon. Hwa-pyung possesses natural psychic abilities and comes from an ancestral line of shamans, but technically is untrained and knows when he is in over his head. Kil-young is a trained law enforcement officer whose beat is the strictly mundane.

Although the other three are treated as a trio because of their personal childhood connections to evil events set in motion by Park Il-do, it would be foolish to undervalue Yook Gwang's importance. He may still be reluctant at times, but he ultimately steps up to the plate anyway. I find that immensely honorable for someone who does not have personal skin in the game. He may sometimes seem like a doofus who is only there for comic relief, but there is a steely spiritual authority underneath his wimpy appearance. His heart and spirit lead him to do the right thing. I appreciate his sensitive and respectful professional rapport with Yoon.

As an older, more experienced practitioner, Yook Gwang is akin to Yoon's mentor, Priest Yang, and Kil-young's partner, Detective Go. I don't even like to think of them as the second string, as they often run interference for the trio of demon busters. Yook Gwang is a versatile substitute player in his own right who steps in as relief pitcher when the chips are down.

To borrow an American football analogy, they may be the secondary unit, but they perform a valuable defensive function in assisting and blocking for the ball carriers. On this team, we have had the equivalent of three quarterbacks calling the shots and going their own ways. Now they are taking turns calling the plays, and their teamwork is improving. I'm looking forward to fancy footwork, quarterback sneaks, and epic punting. The main trio are protected by the equivalent of tackles, guards, and linebackers. As for Yoon, he has thrown more than one “Hail Mary pass” already, and we're in for another. The three exorcists effectively hand off the ball to each other to avoid getting sacked by the forces of darkness. Soon the tides will turn, and the “Four Horsemen” (a fitting reference to the famed backfield of the American Catholic Notre Dame University football team of the Roaring Twenties) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_(American_football) will bring the apocalypse to Park Il-do.

A little (black) bird told me so. ;-)

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@pakalanapikake 😍 LOL. I enjoyed reading you as much as watching the show! 😍

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@growingbeautifully,

Aw, shucks. ;-)

I'm glad you're having fun. I can't help myself sometimes. The football analogy is so apropos. I didn't even realize that "The Four Horsemen" played for Notre Dame until I read the article -- but that just strengthened the analogy. ;-)

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I'm actually afraid for Yook Gwang. The force and brutal cunning of Park Il Do is such, that I fear one member of our team will not survive. Is Yook Gwang the writer's sacrificial offering in order to maintain the safety of our beloved trio?

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@egads, I hear you. I hadn't seriously contemplated the possibility of losing Yook Gwang. But now I recall that Yook he has twice had visions of his own death. That gives me pause, and saddens me immensely. I'm hoping that he was just getting bad reception on those occasions.

I'm also hoping that the four of them in particular close ranks so that PID cannot divide and conquer.

We've already had one scare when Detective Go was attacked. I'm concerned that members of the larger team who are unaware of demonic possession and spiritual attack will be at increased risk. Methinks Priest Yang is at greater risk, too, owning to his drinking and frequent exposure to Hong-joo. He may be Daniel in the lion's den already.

It's also possible that one or more of them will sacrifice themselves while taking down PID, or rescuing one of the others. Hwa-pyung seems to be the most likely candidate.

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That poor girl she's been fighting to keep these demons away but just a few words from her mother and it's like she lost all the fight in her.

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Thanks for the recap @odilettante!

I have many thoughts since I just finished ep 10, but I will wait until the recap is posted to talk about them.

But I have some theories.
1) I don't think HP was ever possessed. I think he was like the little girl, who was psychic and saw the ghosts that were trying to possess him but resisted. He had the love of his family and no real motive or wholes in his heart for PID to have easy access so PID had to jump into a different host.
2) PID is probably hiding in plain sight. And has been for years and has been sending HP on a wild goose chase for years. I have some suspicions, but I'll save them for after ep 10 recap
3) Gil Young is growing on me. I think the first few episodes the actress was seriously overacting, but now shes toned it down and is the most level headed of the three. Thank you! I was having a hard time watching because she was too over the top, but now she's much better.
4) Kim Jae Wook as Priest Yoon is amazing. He is definitely the shining star to me in this show. I am fully invested in his character and his path.

Ok, I will be back with more after we get the next reaps!

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holes* man I would kill for an edit button lol

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I thought we stopped seeing ghosts at Ep. 1. I thought there won't be ghosts, because eventhough the genre is exorcism, we didn't see any ghost other than in Ep. 1. I thought I'm safe. But no, and we're only halfway through. Be strong, my heart.

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