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The Third Charm: Episode 4

Wow, these two waste no time. Now that they’re finally able to be a full-fledged couple, Joon-young and Young-jae make up for the lost years and savor every minute of it. They’re so lovey-dovey that they’re making everyone around them cringe, but naturally, they don’t care. The only problem is that the more time they spend together, the more light is shed on their contradicting personalities.


 
EPISODE 4 RECAP

Following their emotional kiss, Joon-young walks Young-jae home and asks if today is their first day of dating. To be more technical, it’s their second day of dating, after seven years. They laugh at that, not realizing that Soo-jae can see them from his window above. He’s narrating their interaction like a screenplay, even doing their voices (I love him so much), though he gets flustered when he sees them kiss goodbye.

When Young-jae walks in, she finds Soo-jae smiling by the window and she knows she’s been caught. Though he’s happy for her, confirming her new boyfriend is the police officer he met, Young-jae can sense the tinge of sadness in his voice.

The next day, Joon-young bursts into the station with a cheerful greeting, and his sudden attitude change startles his co-workers. He then receives a call, straightening up when he realizes it’s Soo-jae.

He later calls Young-jae to tell her that Big Bro wants to meet with him, which has her feeling nervous. She reveals that Soo-jae had been studying to be a police officer before his accident, so she can’t help feeling sorry. Joon-young assures her she shouldn’t feel that way.

Joon-young meets Soo-jae at his coffee truck, eager to answer any and all questions. So Soo-jae speeds through a whole list of questions from Joon-young’s family background to his hobbies to his police exam scores. Like a pro, Joon-young answers them all just as speedily.

Finally, Soo-jae has one last question—if someone killed a police officer’s lover, should that police officer get revenge? Joon-young is taken aback, but Soo-jae clarifies that it’s for a script he’s writing. (Why do I feel like there’s more to it than that?) He gives Joon-young the script, saying he should give it a read to get on his good side.

Elsewhere, Joo-ran starts her manhunt by joining a cycling class. She flirts with one of the cyclists, thinking he’s perfect, but once they actually get to cycling, she ends up being the slowest one. She gets so far behind that she loses the group and gets stranded somewhere in the country. To make things worse, she has to hitch a ride in the bed of a truck while it’s pouring rain.

Joon-young and Young-jae make plans for a movie date, though it all depends if Joon-young can catch the suspect he’s staking out in time. Luckily, said suspect appears sometime later and Joon-young practically flies as he chases after him. He catches up to him easily and kicks him down to put him in handcuffs. He gives his team a million dollar smile and leaves for his date.

He makes it just in time for the movie, but upon meeting Young-jae, she points out a teeeeeny little scratch on his forehead and he freaks out. He drags her to a pharmacy to purchase a superfluous amount of first aid supplies, making them miss their movie. But when he gets a text from Mom saying everyone will be late tonight, he figures date night doesn’t have to be ruined.

They head over to Joon-young’s place, where he prepares a nice dinner. He impresses her by testing the pasta’s completion, flinging a noodle at the fridge and making it stick, ha.

They’re eating their food while watching Mission: Impossible II when Joon-young suddenly bolts up and runs to another room. He comes back to explain that he had to fart and he didn’t want to do it in front of her.

She calls him cute and ruffles his hair, which just annoys him. “By any chance,” she says, “Is your scalp your erogenous zone?” She goes on to say that a lot of customers get turned on when they have their hair washed.

Joon-young doesn’t like the sound of that; he tells Young-jae not to wash male customers’ hair. She tells him not to handcuff female criminals then, but he’s serious; he makes her pinky swear not to do it. She swears since her students are the ones who wash the hair anyway.

But now Young-jae wants to know where Joon-young’s erogenous zone is. She tickles him and he grabs her to stop, making their eyes lock. They start making out and all seems well until the doorbell rings, followed by Joon-young’s mom’s voice.

They jump off the couch in a panic, Young-jae scurrying off to hide and Joon-young getting rid of the evidence. When Mom and Dad walk in, they find Joon-young sweating and eating alone. He figures they’re off to bed, but Mom notices Mission: Impossible playing, a movie she’s been dying to see.

Joon-young has to sit through the rest of the movie with his parents, while Young-jae is trapped in his room desperately needing the bathroom. Once the movie ends and Joon-young thinks they’re in the clear, Ri-won comes home early from work. Pffft, Joon-young’s look of absolute horror kills me.

And his horror is justified because Ri-won sees that he rented an action movie and instantly knows that something’s wrong. In true Mission: Impossible style, she inspects the house for clues, finding the noodle on the fridge and a strand of Young-jae’s hair. She has her parents on the edge of their seats hoping their son is actually hiding a girl.

Just as Ri-won backs Joon-young into a corner, Young-jae bursts out of his room, gives a quick greeting, and escapes to the bathroom. There’s no hiding it now, so when Young-jae returns, she introduces herself and smiles alongside Joon-young.

On the car ride to Young-jae’s, the two laugh over the whole ordeal, with her saying she already loves his family. “I usually don’t miss my mom and dad,” she tells him, “but today, I kind of missed them.” At that, Joon-young takes her hand, and she accepts the warm gesture.

Meanwhile, Sang-hyun is off doing what he does best—flirting his head off—when his father calls him into the bar for a stern lecture. Dad is tired of him using the bar to meet women and regrets not selling the building for other purposes.

Surprisingly, Ri-won defends Sang-hyun, saying he actually runs the place well. And as a business major, she believes it’s best that they keep it as a bar. Dad is satisfied with her input, at least for now, so he leaves with his current girlfriend.

Sang-hyun grumbles that Dad’s womanizing lifestyle is why his mother left, and Ri-won says that he’s not one to talk. Joon-young and Young-jae then arrive linking arms, and Sang-hyun is upbeat again. He congratulates his buddy as Young-jae sits Ri-won down to give her a gift. She tells Ri-won that her brother’s ex-girlfriend always treated her well and she wants to do the same.

Joon-young joins them, as well as Sang-hyun, who presents them with a little cake to commemorate their relationship. Joon-young and Young-jae blow out the candle, thus initiating their love, as well as the mushiest montage you’ll see today.

Joon-young narrates that they made up lost time by meeting every day, and we see them together before work, during lunch, even during one of his stakeouts. They do every possible thing couples do—feeding each other food, holding hands in the park, kissing under the stars. It’s so unbearably cheesy, but I also can’t look away.

“While spring became summer,” his narration continues, “we ran towards each other as if we had found an oasis in a desert. Now, summer is about to begin.” Now, it’s their one-hundredth day together, and Joon-young gifts Young-jae a homemade lunch and a new pair of couple shoes (which she totally flaunts in front of her students).

Joo-ran is jealous of her friend, having just had another manhunt fail at a billiards club. However, she has hope since she hired an arranged marriage professional who has already found her a date. She gets all dolled up to meet him at a fancy Korean beef restaurant and oh my god, is that Joon-young’s crabby team member Officer Gong?

Needless to say, Joo-ran is disappointed, and she just gets more and more embarrassed as Officer Gong talks way too loudly about their expensive arranged marriage applications. The date ends abruptly when he argues with the waiter and a piece of coal causes her shirt to catch fire.

Young-jae meets her old high school buddies for dinner (minus So-hee, of course). It turns out that So-hee became a big celebrity and the other two friends never kept in contact since they never got along in the first place. Joon-young then surprises Young-jae at the restaurant, and the girls are shocked to see him again, especially without his braces. They decide to give the two lovebirds some alone time.

However, Young-jae and Joon-young get phone calls from Joo-ran and Officer Gong and have to part ways to console their respective friends. Joon-young meets his partner Officer Jung and a very drunk Officer Gong. After Joon-young calls Young-jae to make sure she got to Joo-ran’s safely, Officer Gong slurs that he’s lucky to have met his ideal type. But Joon-young says that Young-jae wasn’t his type at all.

Over at Joo-ran’s, she tells Young-jae all about the date and how no matter how she tried, she couldn’t find a single charm in Officer Gong. She then asks Young-jae about Joon-young and how she can date someone who’s the opposite of her ideal type. Young-jae hadn’t really thought about that, but it starts to sink in.

She brings it up to Joon-young when they talk on the phone that night, asking why he likes her when in reality, they’re not really suited for each other. She asks a bunch of questions about preferences and their answers differ every time. Either way, Young-jae says that doesn’t change the fact that she likes him.

Joon-young smiles and says that opposites can have great relationships too. He then starts rambling about the science of attraction, unaware that Young-jae has fallen asleep. He hears her snoring and laughs, saying, “You snore and I don’t snore. We’re definitely suited for each other.” Aww, stahp.

The next day, Joo-ran tells Young-jae that the famous Designer Hong wants her on his team for a fashion show, which could be a big step for her career. Young-jae is ecstatic to join, that is, until she meets the runway model they’ll be working with: So-hee.

Designer Hong gushes over So-hee, explaining that she requested Young-jae herself. Despite Young-jae’s surprise, she handles the rest of the meeting in a professional manner. But it’s hard with So-hee constantly putting down her suggestions.

Young-jae lets off steam by visiting a ddeokbokki place and calling Joo-ran, loudly stating that So-hee is as awful as ever. At a table behind her, a young man gawks as she says she could just smack So-hee.

Young-jae leaves the shop with her food, the young man close behind, and she comes across a halmeoni who’s dropped all of her apples. Young-jae doesn’t hesitate to help pick them up, ordering the young man to do the same.

After gathering the apples, Young-jae thanks the young man and heads back to work, while he watches her with a rather smitten expression. We later learn that this is plastic surgeon CHOI HO-CHUL (Min Woo-hyuk).

After his day at work, Ho-chul is told that he needs a haircut if he wants to look good for his upcoming broadcast. He’s looking at his reflection in the window when his eyes go across the street and find Young-jae sitting in her salon alone.

Ho-chul goes over to the salon, and Young-jae recognizes him from earlier. Since her students have already left, she gives him the haircut herself. As she does, Ho-chul innocently flirts with her, though she doesn’t pay it much attention. She just urges him to stand up so they can wash his hair.

Meanwhile, Joon-young decides to visit Young-jae since they haven’t seen each other for a couple of days. He picks up a late night snack, making sure it’s extra spicy for her, and happily drives over to the salon.

His smile drops as soon as he sees Young-jae with Ho-chul, washing his hair when she promised she’d never do so. He turns to leave, not knowing how to feel, but stops after a second thought.

He calls Young-jae and asks if she wants him to drop by, watching her reaction. She tells him that she’s busy and that she’ll call later. He then catches Ho-chul trying to flirt and is instantly filled with jealousy.

 
COMMENTS

Oh, here we go. No matter how sweet and scrapbook-worthy their honeymoon phase was, it had to get disrupted sometime. (Also, I guess the flashbacks were in the fall and the honeymoon phase was in the spring; my mistake.) I know a lot of beanies in the comments strongly believe that Joon-young and Young-jae are not right for each other, and it was interesting to see how the show introduced this problem.

Joon-young was right in saying that opposites can work really well together; it creates the yin-yang effect in platonic and romantic relationships. The balance can vary depending on the people, but if there’s some genuine effort put in, they can compliment each other in the right ways. They can inspire each other to step out of their comfort zones and try new things together. Though it challenges people positively, it also carries a higher chance of challenging them negatively. Once they’re out of “spring” and settling into what could possibly be the long haul, these negative challenges could make or break them.

Maybe I’m too optimistic, or maybe this couple has me wrapped around their little finger, but I want to believe that the whole “opposites attract” thing can work beyond the “attract.” That it can work with Joon-young and Young-jae. But now that they’re moving onto the next phase of their relationship, they need to start discussing these things. They need to figure out how their dynamic works and how they can make it work better, starting with disagreements.

If an action movie makes Joon-young uncomfortable and a tear-jerker makes Young-jae roll her eyes, they could meet in the middle. If Joon-young calls Young-jae too often and she calls too little, they could (you guessed it) meet in the middle. Compromises aren’t always easy, but they are fundamental in any relationship. And it’s better that they’re established before communication is completely lost. I hope these two find some kind of strategy because I really don’t like that they gloss over certain things. With the second lead Ho-chul finally making his entrance, our couple will have to talk things out, right? I enjoy the cuddles and kisses, but they can’t solve everything.

Other than the romance, the family dynamics still have most of my attention. Ri-won continues to be awesome, and Soo-jae continues to be… well, intriguing. With the hints the show is sprinkling throughout, I’m just dying to know what happened to his ex-girlfriend. He also needs more screentime in general because after that cheesy scenario narration, I wanted him narrating the entire episode.

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I'm with you @sailorjumun. I think this will truly show if the writer is good or not. Compromise and communication are key. That being said I'm betting she forgot that she promised not to wash a man's hair, even though it was a silly promise in the first place.

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@kafiyah-bello,

In addition to compromises, relationships also need common ground, and aside from the fact that they are both members of Homo sapiens with a pulse who knew each other in the past, I see precious little significant common ground.

If Young-jae really did forget about her promise, then it goes to show that she hadn't taken Joon-young seriously enough to contest his demand in the first place. (I actually thought she hesitated a bit, but I may be mis-remembering or misinterpreting the shampoo scene.)

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No, she hesitated. I think probably because she knew was ridiculous, but also because the chances of her actually washing the hair is low.

However,bi do think they have some common ground otherwise why hang out with each other. This may be a writing issue rather than the characters themselves not having common ground, but I'm with some common ground is 100% necessary.

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I feel like the show wants me to love all the cheesy romantic stuff and I just .... don't. Which is weird because I usually do. I think the issue is usually I have 7-8 episodes to fall in love with the characters and their journey into falling in love with each other. Only in this case, I have barely gotten to know them and I just don't buy a relationship between people who have known each other only a couple of days.

Also, I believe that opposites can attract but as SailorJumun mentioned, you need compromises and I haven't seen a lot of compromise coming from Young-Jae. Time will tell.

I am actually far more involved with Joo-ran's quest to find a husband. She is hilarious, fabulous and I feel for her. She puts so much effort but in a desperate sort of way. Girl, fighting.

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@luzitania,

It took me a while to recognize Office Gong in civvies at a matseon. But after I rewatched the footage of the drug bust, I was impressed by what a marshmallow he is in comparison to his professional and highly competent gangbusters persona. The sad thing is that he and Joo-ran both want the same thing -- desperately. I see far more common ground between their characters than I do between the current iterations of Joon-young and Young-jae.

Because of her tunnel vision and judging a book by its cover, Joo-ran never gave Officer Gong a fair shake. His heart is in the right place, but she'll never see it unless she looks below the surface. Which reminds me of this apropos little number:

https://genius.com/Dan-fogelberg-below-the-surface-lyrics

He is older and wiser than Joon-young, and knows what he wants. He would kiss the ground Joo-ran walks on -- if only she would let him.

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To be fair, that date was kind of a disaster. :D I could see how the poor girl is a bit traumatized after being set on fire (accidentally, of course).

Though if they did get together, there are so many jokes we could make.

"Did you like him right away? Well, there was a lot of sparkles."
"I was burning hot thanks to him from our first date."
and so on.

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We need to step back and give these two a break. They are still in the 20-year old bliss of first love even though they are 27 now. The cheese and togetherness did nothing for me either (except cringe a little) but as we have 2/3 of the drama to go, I'm hoping for some more growing up for each of them together, but more importantly on their own. Hence the "third charm".
So I'm taking this part of the story with a grain of salt and hope that they will separate and both grow up some so that they can ultimately be in an adult relationship some day in the future.
In the meantime, we are getting hints about this serial killer, her brother falling off the 4th floor and the reference to his EX-girlfriend.
Methinks this is going to be a mystery that the police will get involved in.
So I'll hang in there and see what happens and how the story unfolds.

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Thank you for spreading some Joo-Ran love.Her character is someone that could come across as annoying and shrewish but the actress is playing her with self awareness and warmth that makes me want to root for her.Her unselfish happiness and support for Young Jae makes her a great unni in my book and I felt like giving her a pep talk when she said she needs to be humble(?) to find a like minded partner.Girl,no!!you are a catch
Really hoped her and the officer would click but then saw the ep count and was reminded that it is way too early in the show for that.The unprecedented cheese on display had me feelunv like it was ep 12 already 😅

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@ashes2ashes,

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Joon-young and Young-jae find out who their respective friends had been meeting, and step in and put in a good word for them. Maybe Joon-young could bring Officer Gong to the salon. If she sees him in uniform, he might make a better impression. During the drug testing at the precinct, he was softspoken and courteous unless one of the drunks was acting up.

The matseon was a disaster because they were both nervous as cats and trying to impress each other with how serious they were about getting married. They both deserve a do-over. ;-)

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Young-jae and Joon-young's relationship is super sweet, but it admittingly has some plotholes. I'm just going to summarize what beanies have been observing:
1. They've only known each other for a couple days if you add everything up, so why are they suddenly so obsessed with each other? Usually, it takes a couple of episodes (weeks or months) for drama couples to have a believable romance. But I have to say that their honeymoon phase scenes were really sweet.
2. I understand that Joon-young entered Young-jae's life at a very painful time for her, but it still doesn't make the most sense why Joon-young and Young-jae have abstained from all other relationships because they've been attached to their one day relationship seven years ago. Seven years is a pretty long time (dramas have gone both ways with this: ex 30but17 couple had a natural reason for remembering each other because the trauma was so deep).
I'm pretty sure both these problems can be solved with some more explanation from the drama later on. I really hope the writers don't make the romance angst too painful, and that we get more cute fluff as YJ and JY's time together increases.

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1. I can understand why Joon-Young was so obsessive. He reminds me a LOT of my brother, who was introverted, sensitive and awkward with girls to a degree that when he found his first love he was all in, no-holds-barred and it seemed too extra. I wonder if it's more about the uniqueness of the experience and the moment as opposed to the person involved? That moment in your life that is incomparable and
just happened to have a person attached to it.

2. This. I would also like to know why, if they've both abstained from relationships and Joon-Young in particular was so awkward physically, our boy showed some confidence and game with his kisses and climbing over her on the couch in this episode. Is it hot in here, or...?

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@ Alex,

#1. I think that you're right about the stage in life being a big factor in Joon-young's going head over heels. Plus there's the fact that, at least for a time, Young-jae treated him a slight bit more humanely than his obnoxious sister did. That must have been a novel experience.

#2. Recall that Joon-young's best friend is a Lothario who is ever on the prowl. He must have picked up a few pointers by osmosis. Plus he was in the army for two years or so. Total immersion in a barracks full of testosterone-drenched guys must have gone a long way to countering the estrogen-spill he grew up in. He also matured physically and intellectually, if not emotionally, and had to cultivate his physicality instead of keeping his head in books. Running obstacle courses in basic training and at the police academy would have made him less of a klutz.

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Thank you for your recap, SailorJumun.

Yep, I agree that the cringe quotient went through the roof in this episode. But that lovey-doveyness, as you noted, is symptomatic of the first blush of long-delayed romance. Not to mention a hormone spill in aisle 3. We don't see Joon-young and Young-jae having meaningful conversations that truly reveal to each other what makes them tick. So far, it's more like showing each other their laundry lists of likes and dislikes. But people are so much more than the sum of their preferences and prejudices. True intimacy is a meeting of the minds, and I don't see either of them as knowing themselves well enough at all yet.

For me, the shoe dropped when Joon-young made Young-jae promise not to wash male clients' hair after her revelations about the scalp as an erogenous zone. That may explain why she has been fooling around with his hair since day one. (It really put me off when she did it soon after their paths crossed again in 2013. The way she did it at the pojangmacha was more like patting a little kid, or a pet, on the head. So condescending. Arrgh!) I couldn't help but get the impression that she was yanking his chain when she said that, and was covertly trying to incite jealousy. It was laughable of him to demand that she promise not to shampoo male clients. Earth to Joon-young, did you hear what you just said?! I had an even bigger problem with her pinky-swearing that she would comply with his inane edict. It was ludicrously immature on his part, but she went along with it. End result: they're both hoist by their own petards.

Joon-young, this is your brain on arrested adolescence. Please grow up. You've gone from one extreme to the other, but it has all been superficial. Make the time and effort to get to truly know yourself in depth. You're worth it. I bet you could learn a lot about character from hanging out with Soo-jae the writer. – What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, Young-jae. You need to grow up, too.

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I'm not much for cheesy romance, the only highlight of the mush for me was Kang-Joon's lovely smile.

Joon-Young's jealousy will probably be the thing that ends this season of their relationship. Because he hasn't dated anyone else, lived with them, experienced sharing money responsibilities etc he's still very adolescent and immature. She is too, absolutely, but it seems to be lining up his behaviour as being the issue for this season.

He's childishly laying down rules purely grounded on jealousy despite knowing that it directly interferes with her work. I wonder if maybe he also put her on a pedestal, since she was his first love, and there's an element of worship going on here. It isn't fair on anyone to be on a pedestal like that, and it dooms relationships to failure when inevitable conflict and/or disappointment rocks up.

It doesn't help that the romance montage seemed all cheese and no meat. I saw no real fighting, bickering, compromise etc. Not a good sign.

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Oh,Joon Young definitely has her up on a pedestal and has loads of growing up to do before he can actually be in a healthy relationship.You guys are so right about him having this adolescent ,idealized love which just happened to fixate on Young Jae.Despite him propounding the benefits of oxytocin vs neutrophil(?) ,the guy is a romantic at heart.And his irrational jealousy might just be the beginning of the end for them this season.
Of course it doesn't help that Young Jae has her own growing up to do.She has a good heart and a general sense of decency(helping d granny,standung up for the wheel chair bound ahjusshi etc) but she is surprisingly stingy with her emotions when it comes to Joon Yong.She has dictated the terms of their relationship from day one and in the face of puppy adoration from JY is continuing to do it in 2013.somehow his concerns and feelings are not seen to have given her as much pause as they deserve when you want to be in a long term relationship.
And may be that really is the crux of their issues right now.Like @sailorjumun wisely pointed out a middle ground is very much required if they are to give this thing an actual go.
But we have 8-10 more episodes to get there so I am cautious ly optimistic 😊

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I so wanted to love this show but it looks like I can't.

The writing seems pretty weak. I found myself looking at the clock, not a good sign. Let's start my rant with the small things. Sang Hyun who showed such promise in the previous week has become nothing more than a useless playboy.His pick up lines are beyond ridiculous and I wonder how can he get any woman to go out with him. Ri Won has worn out my patience. She was funny for an episode or two but to date, she's just meanie, nothing more. I pity the parents or are they to be blamed? The siblings are well into their twenties but behave like kids. Surprisingly, I like Joo Ran but her terrible dates are so cliche. Can't the writer do better?

Young Jae and Joon Young are cute but that's because Esom and Seo Kang Joon are doing an awesome job. Why did the green eyed monster reared its ugly head and make Joon Young look like an obsessive boyfriend. Or is that the point? This can even be a story about how their love went tragically wrong. Maybe I do want to see Seo Kang Joon play a villain.

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Now that I really think about it, I think I like the YJ+JY couple only because Esom and SKJ's acting makes them likable. The relationship wouldn't be nearly as endearing if it wasn't Esom and SKJ in the roles.

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It's going to be very interesting to see how Young-jae treats smitten plastic surgeon Choi Ho-chul, who presumably has higher social status and makes more money than Joon-young does. Her stated goal seven years earlier had been to become a famous hair designer and rake in the cash. Is that still her strategy? Ho-chul may make a lot more sense as a partner: hair designer + face designer, which could be a good move business-wise as well as providing common ground in everyday life. On the other hand, she ordered around the man in the street the same way she has bossed Joon-young, and he did as he was told. Do I see a pattern here? I feel like giving him a stage whisper: Pssst. Buddy, do you have any idea how fast her bossiness is going to get old?

It was inevitable that So-hee would show up again. I hope that her bitchiness backfires and she gives herself a reputation for being difficult to work with and abusive towards underlings. Here's hoping that Young-jae's professional reputation grows to the point that such behavior reflects worse on the shamer than on the shamed. It would be a wonderful comeuppance if dreamboat Dr. Choi were So-hee's plastic surgeon – whom she is pursuing. HA!

Despite my dislike for the way Ri-won tortures her brother, I have to admit that her MISSION IMPOSSIBLE sleuthing – and the whole dinner-and-a-movie-at-home interlude – was well done. No wonder Mom hit it off with Young-jae: they have the same taste in films. Which makes me wonder what kind of flicks Dad would watch if he were allowed to. ;-)

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hi @pakalanapikake. I agree with your analyses (#4 and #6). Joon-young's family dynamic is strange. I am finding Ri-won the most unappealing of the main characters. What is with her making it her mission to "out" her brother. Talk about immature Btw has she ever referred to JY as "oppa"? Possibly I don't remember. Can this girl even boil an egg?
Another thing I am trying to figure out is how Joon-young became a Police Team Leader (apologies in a previous comment I referred to JY as a Squad Leader) in such a short time. We know he has served in the Army so there has to be a tough guy JY. We saw some toughness in the opening episode and a little bit in episode 4. I probably am not explaining myself but it is like in JY I am seeing two different characters rather than one with different aspects.

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Hi, @marcusnyc20 Bong-soo!

LOL @ "Can this girl [Ri-won] even boil an egg?" Why should she, when there's a resident culinary slave to cater to everyone's demands? I'm not sure whether she has ever referred to him as oppa, either. Maybe only as "Hey, you." Right now I'm ready to consign her to the ring of Kdrama hell reserved for Jo Bo-ah's last few horribly obnoxious characters in SWEET STRANGER AND ME / MAN LIVING IN OUR HOUSE and TEMPERATURE OF LOVE. Yeah, she's that irritating to me. -- But I did like her MISSION IMPOSSIBLE spoof.

I know what you mean about Joon-young feeling like two different people. It may be Writer-nim's attempt to depict the gulf between his public and private personas. During the drug bust, I could see how he was all business -- up until he saw Young-jae among the partygoers, whereupon he blew a fuse and his brains temporarily turned to mush. That may also have been intended to convey that he is still in emotional pain seven years later.

Hearing him pour his heart out at the pojangmacha to the smirking Young-jae (whose Mona Lisa smile comes across to me as one of condescending superiority, as in "What fools these mortals be"), we're left in no doubt that he retreated from interpersonal relationships with women in self defense. Pain avoidance is normal, but in his case his reaction to being rejected by Young-jae may be excessive because Joon-young has lived nearly all his life with a pair of fire-breathing dragons. His military service may well have been a blessed respite from their demeaning treatment. It may have come as a revelation to him that other families are like his. And now he's back living at home. IMHO, he needs to move out ASAP. He would be better off living in a nice, quiet goshiwon.

I'm beginning to develop a theory about Joon-young's weird family. The whole lot of them seem to have cultivated their intellects to the exclusion of developing emotional intelligence and empathy. Ri-won is studying business administration, and sounds like a sharp cookie when she defends Sang-hyun against his father, who seems to have passed on his "flirtation genes" to his son. I was surprised when she did that. Maybe she was just being a wiseass.

On top of that, there's the temperament issue. The females are both extroverts to the max. Dad has passed on his Caspar Milquetoast genes to Joon-young.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I suspect that Joon-young (and his sister) have been super-duper students, not only because they are brainy, but in order to not shame their educator parents, in particular Mom. I can easily see the bookishly introverted nerd trying to gain her conditional love by becoming the perfect student. No wonder he has low self-esteem.

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OOPS!

Lost the negative in the middle of the third paragraph. It should read:

It may have come as a revelation to him that other families are not like his.

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Yay @sailorjumun !! thank you for reading our comments. This couple's communication and compromise issue is make it or break it for me. Im willing to forgive the female lead (i mean it wasn't entirely her fault, the other dude didn't move on as well) if they redeem themselves correctly this time around. Its all up to you screenwriter to get it right-- without being to cheesy or fake. Fighting!

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I agree that effort and compromise are so important, especially with couples so different. I've seen many chalk and cheese couples with varying degrees of success. Most of the long-lasting ones rely on compromises and transparency.

I haven't rewatched this episode yet, so I can't be sure. But is it just me...or is Joon-Young bowing to Young-Jae's preferences and interests all over again? The movie, and then the spicy food during the montage even though he outright told Soo-Jae earlier that he still hates it. I don't remember seeing Young-Jae doing it in turn - correct me if I'm wrong.

It seems once again like compromise doesn't exist. Joon-Young is trying to adapt his own preferences to what Young-Jae wants to make her happy. Young-Jae accepts that and runs with it. How long will it take for other little snags in their relationship, like jealousy, to ferment the deep-rooted issues they're not addressing?

Joon-Young can only let her preferences take precedence for so long before he'll feel the beginnings of resentment at the suppressing of his personality. It will be a grave he dug himself, of course, but I don't see her saying 'hey wait, let's try something YOU like'. Come to think of it...what DOES Joon-Young like? Does he still want to watch Pride and Prejudice or is he more of an Eternal Sunshine kind of guy now? Who IS 27-year-old Joon-Young?

His demand for her to not wash male customers' hair was ridiculous - it's literally her job, even if assistants normally do this. Because he didn't date during the past seven years, the poor lad's stuck in time, still approaching things like a jealous teenager. He needs to grow up quickly.

Overall, I still don't like them as a couple. The romance montage could have been cute, but because I'm not a fan of Young-Jae and feel like Joon-Young is an emotional teen stuck in an adult body, I can't feel positively about it. Instead I feel like it gave me diabetes and cavities, and also made me gain five stone in weight.

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You are correct, he does almost everything for her. I also think your analysis of each individual character is spot on.

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Same. I saw Joon-Young giving in to Young-Jae a lot but I don't remember Young-Jae doing something Joon-Young likes.

Which to me equals RED FLAG.

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Joon Young and Yoon-Jae are such a adorable couple but I miss the getting to know each other phase in their romance- it's so direct.
I love Joon Young parents they are awesome.^^
There's no drama in their romance so it's getting bland for me.
I hope Yoon-Jae's friend and the officer start dating in future.

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I have watched these first four episodes all in a row and I am not sure how to feel about this drama. I overall enjoyed the ride, especially the funny moments with the two families, but it doesn't really make me want to watch more of it? Maybe I'm just wondering how the writer will make it work for 16 long episodes...

Personally, I think Esom and Kangjoon are doing a great job, they're charming as actors and the visuals together are lovely... I can even enjoy their couple moments while I watch, but like many pointed out their differences are going to make the bubble pop quite soon... and it's not even about how different they are from each other, but both characters aren't exactly the likeable type in the couple they're portraying. Which might be the point, since they're gonna break up again... maybe the third time will be the time they learn how to be together haha.

I see several people pointing out how bossy Youngjae is, I don't find that a problem actually, she had to work her way up to the ladder, she had so many responsabilities on her shoulders, she's surely the grown up in this situation. I enjoy this side of her so much! In the couple, though, I feel like she has surely more experience than him, and she takes things less seriously than he does... that's not a problem per se, but it ends up making her look like she doesn't care enough. She enjoys the time together, obviously, and she clearly is happy of being with Joonyoung, but she doesn't really compromise anything, doesn't give in at all... while Joonyoung give in way too much. The issue starts with the fact that Joonyoung has put too much meaning to Youngjae in his life (it makes sense, he was a nerd without any experience and she became his first love), to the point of hating her for years without even checking the facts (please, boy)... and now idealizing her and putting her on a pedestal. That would be ok, if he was more mature and objective? I feel he's still a kid, in many ways, and while he's adorable in his good moments, he's way too childish in his jealousy... he takes everything way too seriously, without middle ground. I can't stand how much of a kid he is, truly.

So, maybe the writer wants to show how they're unfit for each other, now, because of such differences - that are more important than the mere movie preference or spiceness of their food - but it also makes me wonder how it'll work out in an enjoyable, meaningful way. Will the writer be able to make them mature in an organic way on the screen? While I feel the drama is funny, it doesn't really strike me as good with such poignant character development so far... maybe I'm just watching too many dramas these days, but this fear of mine + the fact I'm not sure I'm engaged enough to continue make me question if I'll keep watching.

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Yes maintaining a relationship requires work but if it is too much work on your part then probably it is not worth pursuing it. And that is exactly how I feel Joon Young is doing! But then again Young Jae isn’t the only one at fault here. JY seems a bit obsessive for my taste and I still fail to understand why they couldn’t be together 7 years ago. So the brother is in a wheelchair so what? Why did she have to dump him? Was it because it was too much work? Again there is a red flag right there.

Honestly I absolutely loathe the sister. She is a meanie and I wonder why JY doesn’t stand up for himself around her. His bf started out to be a character to look forward too but he too is fizzling out.

I guess I am still watching it because of Esom and SKJ. I probably would have stopped now if it was anyone else.

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