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The Third Charm: Episode 9

Hey guys, just popping over to weigh in on The Third Charm, which I’m finding equally as frustrating as it is, well, charming. Our two leads continue to struggle when it comes to communication and jealousy, stubbornly holding onto something that may well have run its course. There’s no doubt they love each other deeply, but love that stands on shaky ground can only hold itself together for so long before it collapses.

 
EPISODE 9 RECAP

Joon-young and Se-eun continue to chat amiably as they walk back downstairs to their hospital rooms. Se-eun feels guilty that she’s being released sooner than Joon-young (she only has a hurt ankle, versus his cracked ribs and head), but he sweetly tells her that it’s her responsibility to her coworkers to rest and recover properly.

Joon-young hobbles back to his room to find a subdued Young-jae waiting for him. He assures her that he’s fine, then tells her that he shared some of his white peaches with the female cop who was also hurt.

Young-jae also confesses that she saw Ho-chul tonight, but Joon-young says that he’s not jealous anymore. When Young-jae is oddly quiet, Joon-young looks worried, but neither of them brings up the subject again, and they both spend the night wide awake and preoccupied.

Joo-ran’s now-steady boyfriend Chul-nam somehow talks Joo-ran into dog-sitting Princess while he’s away at a competition. He says Princess is very low-maintenance, though she inexplicably requires more food, treats, and toys than a human toddler.

Chul-nam’s primary request is that Princess never be left alone, and Joo-ran has no defense against Chul-nam’s own puppy dog eyes. He sweetly thanks Joo-ran and leans in for several goodbye kisses and cuddles… with the dog. Joo-ran has to settle for a chaste wave.

And so, Princess gets the run of the salon while Joo-ran is working. There’s an upcoming volunteer event, and Joo-ran warns her employees and students that they’re all expected to attend, no exceptions. When Princess makes a mess on the floor, Joo-ran and Young-jae take her for a walk. Young-jae sulks while Joo-ran complains about little Princess’s fussy needs, and how she feels like she’s in a love triangle with a dog, heh.

Joon-young’s team visit him in the hospital to brief him on their progress in tracking down Snakehead (not much). They jokingly talk about Snakehead as if he’s a girl they like — how they miss him, want to hold his hand, lock him up so he can’t see other guys, etc. — but Joon-young isn’t paying attention.

Despite his insistence that he wasn’t jealous, he can’t stop thinking about how Young-jae said she saw Ho-chul last night. The guys notice, and he gasps that he’s not okay as he fights back tears.

Sang-hyun spends Ri-won’s entire shift watching her as she works, periodically changing seats just to appear busy. When the bar finally closes, he tries to talk to Ri-won, but he just squeaks, ends up yelling HEY at her, then looks terrified. Ha, he’s going to be useless now that he’s experiencing real emotions.

He finally locates enough words in his brain to string together an offer to feed Ri-won then drive her home. While she eats, Ri-won asks what his deal is today, and Sang-hyun weirdly yells at her for wandering around after dark. Ri-won argues that that’s when her shift ends, making Sang-hyun look sheepish, but he perks up adorably when she says the ramyun is delicious.

He tries to eat, but gets distracted by her reflection in the shiny table top, so he ends up just watching Ri-won eat and grinning like a gigantic goof. He drives her home, and this time Ri-won catches him staring as she leaves the car, so she confronts him about watching her all day.

Luckily for Sang-hyun, Ri-won thinks he’s heard that another bar offered her a job, and she warns him to keep taking care of his employees like he did today. After she goes inside, Sang-hyun breathes for the first time in hours and wonders why he suddenly likes Ri-won.

When one of his coworkers notes that Ho-chul looks scruffy and unkempt lately, it gives him an excuse to visit Young-jae’s salon. Overriding Young-jae’s objections, Joo-ran invites Ho-chul to participate in their upcoming volunteer weekend, and he accepts.

That evening, Joo-ran is unsuccessfully attempting to brush Princess’s teeth when Young-jae calls. She asks Young-jae why she sounds strange, but forgets all about her friend when Chul-nam calls to say that he didn’t win, and his flight was delayed. Joo-ran plays the supportive girlfriend, then hangs up to find herself standing in a Princess-made puddle.

She meets with Young-jae, who sighs heavily and tells her about Ho-chul’s sung confession. Joo-ran feels bad about inviting Ho-chul to their volunteer event, but Young-jae says that he’s her problem to deal with. She feels bad about hiding it from Joon-young, and even admits that she’s scared she’ll hide more from him in the future. Joo-ran tells Young-jae that she’s still young, and that it’s okay to follow where her heart leads.

Joo-ran arrives home to a nightmare — Princess, chowing down on an expensive pair of heels. She chases the little dog around the house, cursing up a storm and yelling, “Those heels are my princesses!” But worst of all, there’s Chul-nam standing in her kitchen shirtless, with the winning medal around his neck as a surprise.

He backs away from Joo-ran in horror, having heard every hateful thing she just screamed at his beloved dog. Chul-nam grabs Princess and backs out the door, calling Joo-ran an evil woman as Princess gives her a triumphant smirk.

Sang-hyun spends the night in Joon-young’s hospital room, where he waxes poetic over the first woman to ever console him, and the first woman who hasn’t fallen for him. He lists all of her bad habits as if they’re the cutest things ever, and eventually Joon-young takes him to the roof to talk.

He sighs that he feels bad for this woman, whoever she is, and Sang-hyun admits it’s someone he knows. By the way he’s swigging the brand of soju that So-hee endorses, Joon-young assumes he’s pining over So-hee, having dated her back in college.

Sang-hyun is too drunk to correct him and has to practically be carried back to Joon-young’s room, wailing that he misses “her.” Joon-young tosses his friend in bed and sighs that he misses his “her,” too.

Young-jae sits at home, remembering Joon-young’s drunken fear that she would leave him. She suddenly rushes out, while at the same time, Joon-young shrugs on his jacket and catches a taxi to her place.

Meanwhile, Soo-jae finishes his scenario and emails it off with seconds to spare. He answers the doorbell and finds Joon-young, still in his hospital jammies, looking for Young-jae. She’s at the hospital looking for him, and when they finally connect by phone, they’re both feeling emotionally vulnerable.

Young-jae waits for Joon-young to make his way back to the hospital, and when they see each other, they hesitate for a long, shy moment before meeting in the middle for a hug. They relocate to the roof, where Young-jae asks Joon-young guiltily if he’s ever hated her.

He says he hasn’t, because he loves her like crazy. They admit that they’ve missed each other, and everything seems fine again… for now.

Soo-jae goes along to the volunteer event, where he thanks Joo-ran for taking care of Young-jae and compliments her on how good she looks (I ship it!). Young-jae grows awkward when Ho-chul arrives, and he beelines for Soo-jae to introduce himself, but Soo-jae takes offense to Ho-chul calling him “hyung-nim” when they just met. Good for him.

Joon-young shows up just in time to catch the ferry, and Young-jae lights up to see him. They arrive at the island, where the stylists give the locals free haircuts, Ho-chul and his employees offer checkups, and Soo-jae and Joon-young hand out cups of coffee.

One older gentleman drives Young-jae and Joon-young to his home on his tractor, to give his housebound wife a haircut, and they’re both charmed by the lovely little house. Joon-young helps Young-jae where he can, piggybacking the man’s wife to a chair and watching proudly while she works.

The husband asks why Joon-young came to volunteer but doesn’t seem to be doing much, so Joon-young offers to take care of anything the man needs. The man hands him an ancient radio, asking if Joon-young can fix it, since listening to the radio is his wife’s favorite thing.

Joon-young works on the radio while Young-jae chatters to her customer that she used to dye her grandmother’s hair, and that seeing her grandmother happy with her hair is why she became a hairdresser. The husband and wife are thrilled with her new haircut, but poor Joon-young, not being terribly tech-savvy, ends up with a pile of confusing radio parts. He takes them with him, promising to fix the radio before they leave the island.

On the walk back, Joon-young stops to take some pictures of Young-jae with the pretty scenery. He lines up a shot, but then his smile fades, and he has to be reminded to take the picture.

As they resume walking, Joon-young says he’d like to live in a place like this, but Young-jae says places like this are only beautiful if you visit, and grow boring when you live there. Joon-young says that he’s happy to live in the city, so long as he’s with her, but the idea doesn’t make Young-jae smile.

Later, Young-jae plays with her coworkers on the beach, and Ho-chul approaches Joon-young to ask if he wants to go fishing. They move down the beach to a secluded area, and after a long stretch of silence, Ho-chul announces that he’s going to tell Young-jae that he has feelings for her.

Joon-young doesn’t answer, but he thinks that if Ho-chul feels the same for Young-jae as he does, then he’s probably in a lot of pain. But he also thinks that it doesn’t mean his own love and his pain are weaker.

Sang-hyun sits around the bar again, grinning to himself as he watches Ri-won serve customers. His gaze sharpens when a pair of hoobaes from her school come in and start talking about how all the guys in their year like her.

Ri-won retorts that romance is the most useless thing in the world, but her hoobaes just chuckle that that’s her charm. Sang-hyun is practically growling in frustration, and he retreats to the men’s room, so jealous he’s got an upset stomach.

While he’s in there, he hears Ri-won’s classmates come in, still talking about how she seems more approachable here than at school. They agree that she wouldn’t be working here if she had a boyfriend, so one of them decides to seduce her.

Sang-hyun freaks out and wonders if he’s being tested, and he exits the restroom in time to hear the guys asking Ri-won to hang out after her shift. She turns them down flat, but she does it with a flirtatious smile, which makes Sang-hyun grit his teeth. He tries to leave, but when one of her hoobaes asks Ri-won if she has a boyfriend, he can’t stand it anymore.

Just as Ri-won says that she isn’t dating anyone, Sang-hyun grabs her, whips her around, and kisses her right there in the middle of the bar. She stiffens in shock as Sang-hyun informs the guys that he’s her boyfriend.

Over on the beach, Ho-chul kisses up to Soo-jae by bringing him an entire plate of meat, making Soo-jae question his intentions. Young-jae excuses herself to go looking for Joon-young, leaving Ho-chul sitting alone.

Joo-ran drinks heavily, still mourning her failed relationship with Chul-nam. She yells and curses at a pair of island dogs who are attracted by the smell of food, and she wanders off to vomit. Suddenly a hand pats her back, and she sees that it’s Soo-jae, looking at her with sympathy, but no pity.

He tells Joo-ran that it’s not easy to forget someone you love, and invites her to watch a movie together when they get back home. He says that art can help heal a broken heart, which he knows from experience. Joo-ran listens intently as Soo-jae explains that artists put their own pain into their work and are healed when others experience it, and she agrees to go to a movie with him.

Young-jae finds Joon-young inside, working on the broken radio, and she asks why they don’t just buy the couple a new one. But Joon-young is determined to fix the old radio and make it like new again.

He urges Young-jae to go out and have fun, so she does, though she asks him to join them if he can’t fix the radio soon. Joon-young sends her off with a smile, but after she’s gone, a look of immense sadness crosses his face before he gets back to work on the radio.

Young-jae finds Ho-chul waiting for her on the beach, and he tells her that he’s selfish and he knows she has a boyfriend, but that she still makes his heart flutter. He says that he doesn’t want to collect more regrets, so he wants her to know his feelings for her.

Inside, Joon-young actually gets the ancient radio working. He runs outside with it, excited to show Young-jae, but the first thing he sees is her standing with Ho-chul. She turns away from Ho-chul and sees Joon-young there, his eyes filling with tears.

 
COMMENTS

As cute as Young-jae and Joon-young are when they’re together and everything is going well, I’m pretty much ready for this season of their relationship to end. Neither of them is ready for a serious commitment, mostly because they’re not trusting enough of each other to talk openly about their problems and concerns. There’s no doubt that they love each other deeply, and that it’s a very real type of love, but love isn’t enough to make a relationship work. They fight and make up, over and over, yet they never really talk about the problem or how to avoid it in the future, relying on nothing but love to fix things. But it’s not that simple, and Joon-young and Young-jae both have a lot of growing to do before they have the skills to turn their love into something strong enough to last.

I’m just gonna say it — I don’t like Doctor Third Wheel one tiny bit. He knows full well that Young-jae and Joon-young are together, yet he continually pursues Young-jae and defies Joon-young to his face, which are just jerk moves no matter how you look at it. I don’t care how much you like someone, if they’re taken, they’re taken. You don’t have the right to push your feelings on someone who doesn’t want them, so back off.

But even more than Ho-chul, I place the blame squarely on Young-jae for letting Ho-chul come between her and Joon-young… she knows that Joon-young can’t deal with the jealousy, yet she keeps hanging out with Ho-chul. Even when she declined to go to the wedding with him in Episode 7, when she ran into him anyway, she spent the whole rest of the day with him, just the two of them. That’s a date! In my mind, at that point Young-jae became a cheater (and that’s after I reluctantly forgave her for going to dinner with another man on her birthday, but only because Joon-young was being a jerk first). Later she accepted Ho-chul’s invitation to meet after dark and then lied to Joon-young about where she was. Even if Young-jae was there to let him down, an even better way to do that would be to, you know, stop accepting his invitations.

She’s led Ho-chul on by continuing to spend time with him instead of drawing a clear boundary, so even though I don’t think she’s interested, she’s letting him think there’s a chance. And just to be clear, I do think men and women can be friends and do things together alone, and not have it threaten an existing relationship — but not when one of the friends is actively trying to woo the other. And both halves of the couple have to be okay with it or someone is going to get hurt. Young-jae knows full well how Joon-young feels about Ho-chul, yet she chooses to do date-like activities with him anyway, lie about them, then act all innocent when Joon-young is upset. She’s not ready to be in a serious relationship if she can’t at least be honest.

I certainly don’t think Joon-young is perfect — far from it. He’s immature and reacts childishly when he’s upset, and he’s ridiculously stubborn even when he knows that his stubbornness is making the situation worse. He seems to look for things to be upset about and blows things way out of proportion, making a huge fight out of things that never should have been issues at all. But he’s also caring and thoughtful and attentive, and he nearly always puts Young-jae’s needs before his own. I just worry that he’s hanging onto Young-jae out of desperation more than because he’s happy in the relationship. The radio was a perfect example of their vastly different viewpoints… when it stopped working, Young-jae wanted to take the easy road and just upgrade to something shiny and new, while Joon-young dug in his heels and insisted on fixing the old one, even though it had clearly lost its usefulness and any repair would be temporary. I think that Young-jae will be the one to move on to the shiny new relationship because it’s easier than sticking around and doing the hard work, while Joon-young will try to keep fixing something that’s broken well beyond repair.

While Joon-young and Young-jae’s love story frustrates me to death, I still think of it as a wonderfully meaningful love story, and a lot of that is due to the performances being turned in by Seo Kang-joon and Esom. Esom is one of those actresses that, for me, is always a bit difficult to watch because her characters are a little too real (I mean that as a compliment!). She’s no different here, but I like how that quality of hers fits Young-jae’s personality so well. I don’t think that Young-jae is someone I would be friends with in real life, but I can also see why Joon-young loves her. And I continue to be incredibly impressed by Seo Kang-joon’s growth as an actor — to be honest, even after being blown away by his recent performance in Are You Human Too, I still worried that Esom would act circles around him, but he’s more than risen to the challenge. His portrayal of Joon-young is like trying to look at an open (emotional) wound — I don’t want to see his pain laid out for all to see, but I’m unable to look away.

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As much as people dislike this drama and drop it because they find it boring, I find it really realistic. Yes it can be a bit frustrating at times and slow paced without much of a plot, but its a really realistic portrayal of real life relationships. While many rom-coms show just the heart fluttering sides of being in love, this show really goes deep into reality. Misunderstandings, distrust, yet wanting to make it work because of the love for each other. Now I can’t wait for the last “charm” to occur!

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I agree, neither this drama nor this couple is crack. But, this is the only drama that I am watching right now and I like it. Many dramas show people with opposite personalities getting together but they never show how they make the relationship work.

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THE THIRD CHARM is a study of various humanly-flawed characters' attempts at establishing and developing relationships. We see them navigate their own personal stumbling blocks and foibles to achieve their goals. It strikes me as very life-like. Uncomfortably so. That's why I keep watching, even as I want to scream sometimes. ;-)

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I also find this relationship very realistic. It reminds me so much of my previous relationship at times that it can be a little difficult to watch at times due to the constant self-reflecting. Love really isn't enough. Not at the expense of one, or both, individuals involved feeling a great imbalance in the relationship. A part of me would love for Joon Young and Young-jae to make it work, but another part of me understands that these may just be two individuals that deserve a relationship more fitting to their individual personalities. So, I'm also looking forward to their third charm and hope there is some real growth if they are to stay together.

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I think this is one of the best dramas that I am watching, I am loving the pace, the fact these characters are not perfect and they make mistakes. Personally, I am more interested in characters that are fallible and flawed and become more realistic people that I think we can all relate to on some level. There are shows dime a dozen that don't want to show their leads in a non-favourable light.

I def agree that it is painful to watch but I can't look away. I am really impressed with both of the leads acting abilities here and am really looking forward to seeing how the "Third Charm" will pan out. I think I would even be satisfied if they didn't end up together at the end.

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This is my favourite drama currently as well. I wish RL wasn't so hectic and I could comment more... this is one of the dramas I find myself having different views on the characters than most of the commenters... or the recappers 😆
Love the show, the flawed characters and the actors. Esom and Kang Joon are killing it!!

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It would be fine by me if they don't end up together. Unless they both get personality transplants, from what I see at the present time, they are only superficially compatible. On the other hand, the heart wants what it wants. It will be interesting to see how the various relationship stories unfold.

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Thanks for the recap, lollypip! Lovely analysis! :)

I think why joon young is the way he is because even when he is hurt and in a hospital, he needs to be the one to take care of a drunk friend and has to listen to his problems. That is why when they both went to each other's places, I wanted him to wait and let young jae come to him. The guy is hurt and the girl isn't even visiting him, let alone take care of him!

I think young jae realizes this. That she cannot be ( or is not?) the person joon young needs but they both still are not ready to let go of each other. And i like that they both are together out of choice more than anything else. This makes me root for the couple more. But, i am so ready to see them grow up and meet again and fall in love and stay together and work through their differences this time.

Also, how cute is sang hyun in love! I wish they had not used joo ran relationship for comedy because her hurt felt real.

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Your take on JY's need to be the carer is spot -on. This was something that we were shown again and again the last episode!
The guys is seriously injured and in hospital and has a slew of visitors. he should feel loved,right? But all his visitors are there for them than for him.
His parents buy him food but leave him alone after a few cursory words coz his dad can't stand being apart from the mom. His BFF is too wrapped up in his girl drama and his baby sister is her wise cracking self who can't convey her concern in anyway her brother would want or appreciate. Felt that his colleagues were the ones he had most healthiest relationship with and they were just there talking shop.
Throughout the day we see him surrounded by people but he ends up taking care of them than the other way around. A lot of that behavior is also down to how he has let himself be defined to those people. They all feel like they have done their part but JY is lonely,craving the comfort he usually gives others and feeling a li'l bad for himself(as most people do when they are sick/hurt) .
I was also frustrated that once again he was running himself weak,if there is one time when you are allowed to expect your S.O to come to you,the hospital stay is it! But JY just doesn't have confidence in himself and the relationship to believe that YJ will come to him. He needs to learn that it's ok to expect people to see him and be there for him. He doesn't always have to be the one who reaches out, pleads and works on all of his relationships.
The guy really needs few lessons in self worth and self love. :(

Also agree that YJ's sadness and pulling back this hours isn't coming from a moment of jelaousy, but the steady realization that they are both not enough for what the other needs right now.

It's sad but also very real.

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So well said! I completely agree with everything. anyone who is hospitalized needs to be pampered a little or atleast shown that they have people who wouldn't leave them at their worst. It is just so sad. Joon young totally needs to learn to love himself and put himself first and realize his self worth.

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While I agree Young Jae is really bad at setting boundaries with the doctor, Joon Young also seems to be very passive-aggressive. When the doctor tells him that he's going to tell YJ that he likes her, instead of telling him off like a normal person, he just stands there passively fishing with him. And he would rather fix a radio indoors allowing his girlfriend time to spend with the doc who is fixated on her. And then he's hurt when she was doing exactly that. SMH.

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Ooh I totally get your point of view on this but I really found I identified with him on this. To me it didn't feel so much as passive aggression but a total withdrawal from any kind of confrontation or conflict.

I have found myself in these kinds of situations where the sinking feeling in my gut when I realise that someone else is interested in the person I am, I shut down, distract myself with other things, all the while feeling like complete and utter SH*T. Plus there is this sinking gut wrenching feeling that the relationship is ending and everything is too f*cked up to try and salvage so it all becomes a ticking time bomb. I think it is really difficult in these situations because Joon Young had attempted to articulate his feelings to both the Doc and Young Jae and it never went right.

I dunno, I just really empathise with him in this situation and it feels totally believable to react in that way. Just my two cents.

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Yes to this @teegyj Joon Young's reactions this hour are informed by everything that's happened so far. They both know the end is near and at this point he is too exhausted to react. I am really digging the melancholy that seeps into the screen during their scenes.
Even No-chul seems to sense the feeling of doom.He knows that he has got no chance but like a petulant kid wants to cause strife and hurt. The girl he likes hasn't given him the time of the day and is clearly in love with her BF. He is getting cold shoulder from the girl's oppa. So he does the mature thing and doubles down...arghh
Letting JY know upfront about the confession under the pretext of some messed up bro code(*eye-roll*) is just his way of passing around the misery.He couldn't wait till they got back to mainland to take YJ around and speak?He chose to confess when she is on an island when she literally is a captive audience.

I am sorry,this time around,the blame can go straight to No-chul. JY and YJ have their own stuff to get through,guy!!

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You make some good points. I just empathize more with Young Jae since my personality is more like hers.

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@fogcity Oh totally get your POV (psst.. I am more of an YJ IRL as well ;) )

One of the main reasons this drama stands out from the rest of the recent crop,is the strong reactions beanies seem to have to the leads based on their own personalties. Yes,we always react to art based on what we see in them but in this kind of show, the reactions are more strong because we are shown less.We are viewing a relationship unfold as if we are an invisible friend but unlike in many other dramas,there aren't many expositions or loudly sighed inner monologues that explain away their actions or thoughts (yet!) So we are more free to exposit, project and interpret than usual. It's particularly the case with YJ who is very much a closed book.Where I am seeing a temporary instinct to hurt followed by instant regret,some one else might be seeing a bratty/entitled attitude followed by aloofness.. It's all very fascinating :)

Personally, I feel kindly towards both our leads the way you would with old friends who are good people on their own but exhaust all concerned parties with their on-again,off-again relationship.

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Yes, I'm grateful the writers took the time to let this relationship unfold and to demonstrate how hard it can be to make a relationship work. Misunderstandings happen so frequently especially when there isn't good communication as well as when we have expectations that our partners just can't or won't fulfill.

I like both leads, but recognize that I sympathize more with Joon-young due to my personal life experiences. Young-jae reminds me of some friends I used to have whose actions at times I found dubious, yet I recognized that deep down they were good people unable to express how they really feel.

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In defense of Joon-young's fixing the radio for the old couple, I think he's coming from a place of wanting to be "useful as well as ornamental" after someone got after him for not doing anything while all the other volunteers were cutting hair or taking blood pressure readings. I wish to heck that he could have piped up with "Dammit, Jim, I'm a cop, not a doctor or a hairdresser!" -- but that would have been totally out of character. ;-)

My sense is that Young-jae wanted him to go on the expedition as a little getaway -- but failed to tell him that and expected him to read her mind as to her intentions. He accompanied her to the home of the housebound lady, and safely piggybacked her down the stairs. In an effort to be of service, because as far as he knew, that was his only reason for being there, he took on a repair job that most people would not have bothered with. But he knew it would make a difference to the elderly lady in question, and followed up on it. He doesn't make empty promises, and Young-jae should be the first one to know that.

Joon-young got a sense of accomplishment from fixing the radio and making the clients happy. It saved the old man a trip to the mainland. Wasn't that the whole point of the "service" trip? Or was it really just to make the volunteers feel good about themselves?

As for fishing with Doc Ho-chul after his declaration to plight his troth to Young-jae that evening, I could understand how Joon-young just went with the flow and acted as if everything were normal. At least he didn't punch him out. He would have been the villain if he had done so. Aside from the emotional train wreck in progress, the scene of the setting sun was lovely. ;-)

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I don't think the only two options to dealing with the doctor were to either punch him or act as if everything were normal. He should just have said something like "Hey, man, I don't appreciate you hitting on my girlfriend constantly. Please stop." He just seems so resigned at this point.

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I think that the fact that Joon-young couldn't even say what you suggested -- which would have been the mature thing to do -- just goes to show how hopeless he feels after she's yet again kicked him in the shins.

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I am not watching this. I am only popping out around once in a while to read the recaps. And today, by your recap, Lollypip, I see a lot of similarities with pretty noona. (At least when it comes to the characters lying to each other).
I just hate that. I hate it when it happens continually, like in here.
So...thanks for the recap. This is a reason why never to watch this drama. 😊😉😅
But it is ok. You guys, have fun.

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Thanks a lot for the recap @lollypip
This episode was difficult to watch but in a good way. The slow crumbling of the relationship feels too real.

Really impressed with SJK. He is selling the quiet,angsty,needy JY while still keeping him grounded and likable... his face whenever he let the cheerful facade slip was..oof. The desperate fixing of a broken radio didn't feel too on the nose coz he really sold the desperation JY's feeling then.
Esom's choice of characters has got to be applauded. In the two dramas I have watched her in,she has played people who are prickly,prideful and a little hard to like.But as with Soo Ji in BTLIOF,I feel that YJ is someone who's worth knowing and loving if you are patient enough to see beneath the tougher face she puts on. In an industry that rewards likability,it's commendable that she is wiling to go for the more 'real' roles.
I am also glad that the drams is finally giving me a second male lead who isn't a perfect foil to the main lead. SLS I do not feel. Pretty sure YJ shares my opinion. If my reading of her character is right,she has already rejected No Chul and will go it alone and become an awesome hairdresser.

For JY, I hope the break allows him to cultivate some much needed confidence.IMO he needs a break from his current life. Move away,Joon Young-ah,find yourself. It would be nice to see him become more rounded outside of any influence from his family and YJ. Pretty Se-eun can even date him before he eventually meets up with YJ again.

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Never Once I feel like the conflict is repetitive. Each episode always show detail character emotional state. Either it's for the better or the worst. I was just really impressed with the proggression of Joon Young's character. His insecurity from apparent to show his dislike with her to just wanting to hide it to save their relationship is so relatable.

The only weakness of Joon Young's character for me is they have yet to show his background more of why he has that insecurity inside him. He seems many people who love him and become his friend even back when he was in college. Does he afraid his first real relationship with woman is gonna fail from the second time after his fail relationship from the same person?

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I still don't like Young-Jae. I'm not saying she's a bad person, I'm saying that she is not someone I would get along with. This drama is pretty cool in that most of the reasons we respond to these characters are based around emotional reactions and personalities. Because of this, many of us are never going to agree on these characters, as opposed to dramas that focus on big sweeping moral choices.

I find the back-and-forth between J-Y and Y-J so frustrating, maybe because I want them to break up once and for all. Get it over with. Rip off the band aid. It reminds me of that time I watched a spider struggling with just two legs. It gave me this sickening feeling of pity that I don't normally feel for creepy critters like that and I wanted to put it out of its misery as soon as possible.

I feel like J-Y and Y-J have totally different priorities in life. It's highlighted in so many ways, and their different responses to the old radio are a perfect embodiment. Y-J wants to change up for something shiny and modern and new. She doesn't see the merit in putting in all that effort to repair something she sees as inevitably broken no matter what.

J-Y is certain that it can be repaired and still has value. His idea of value is very different to Y-J's. He's looking at the sentimentality, the history, and most of all the commitment. He's not particularly knowledgeable or good at it, but he's willing to give it his all and enter uncharted territory for the sake of those values. Whether or not the radio would last, the point is that he felt the effort was worth it because it meant something to someone, on some small scale. I found that scene very sad, because I've been there, doing something I saw great worth and meaning to and finding myself alone while doing it.

I don't like Ho-Chul at all, because even after knowing his interest has a boyfriend, he continues to be pushy and sniff around. He refuses to back down and tells the boyfriend this to his face. What level of arrogance and self-involvement is this? He must see that he's causing misery but he just keeps on going, not caring about the damage he's causing.

And I feel Y-J should take a small portion of the blame for this, because although she's distant from him, I don't see her as ever having set clear boundaries. At least for J-Y's sake, if she really loves him, she should tell Ho-Chul to back off loudly and clearly. Is it too unkind that I feel like she's stringing along not the man himself, but what he represents - his fame, his success, his complementary career? I feel like she's rejected him romantically, but can't seem to pull away from the ambition and success he represents. It's tragic, because J-Y is successful in his own right. But his career path is different to hers, and he doesn't get interviews or photoshoots or land him on TV.

Y-J seems to be married to her career and her dreams of success in a way that J-Y isn't. He's always leaving his...

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[2/2] co-workers hanging, either for team dinners or while they're waiting for his cutesy phone calls to end. It's not that he's bad at his job, it's that it's not as high on his list of priorities as a lover or a family member is. I don't think it's the same for Y-J at all. I wonder just how much she would give up to 'succeed' and if it will be worth it.

I hope Soo-Jae gets some warmth in his life. He deserves love, and probably needs it too. I still worry about him a lot, and I really hope things start improving in his life soon, because he seems in serious danger of deep depression.

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Thanks for your recap, @lollypip! Like you, I'm immensely frustrated with Young-jae. She still is not willing to give an inch when it comes to anything that Joon-young wants, or sharing her innermost feelings with him. Everything revolves around her and her wants and needs. It tore my heart to hear him voice his dream of being a police chief in boondocks like the island they were visiting, and hear her dismiss it as being a nice place to visit, but too boring to live in. I felt offended on his behalf.

Joon-young is too codependently focused on her for his own good, but he at least thinks about someone other than himself. In fact, he thinks of everyone else first in an effort to avoid his own sense of inadequacy as a human being. For starters, my dear, please hang out with people who really like and accept you for who you are. This one's for you, kiddo:
http://www.dramabeans.com/members/pakalanapikake/activity/638667/

Seo Kang-joon's performance is riveting. It's like viewing an impending car crash – it's only a matter of time, it's inevitable, and there's no way you can tear your eyes away from it. His dual role in ARE YOU HUMAN TOO was a revelation, and now comes this study in vulnerability. Watching Joon-young evolve before my eyes is a trip and a half. It feels as if the gangling nerd with braces has been gone for a dog's age.

If he were an animal, Joon-young would now be a limpet plastered to a rock at the shoreline, like ones I saw on the Big Island of Hawai'i early in the present cycle of Kilauea's eruptions. Alas, because of their attachment they were boiled alive when lava flowed into the sea nearby, just as Joon-young has been scalded yet again by the woman who is seriously damaged. He cannot save her from herself. He cannot understand her into wholeness. He can only do that for himself, with the encouragement of those who accept him for exactly who he is right now. The paradox is that, in order to change, you first have to love and accept yourself unconditionally, and realize that you are worth your own attention. This is not being self-centered. It's taking the time to examine your own life and decide who and what you want to become.

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Esom has been doing a great job. I'm growing to loathe Young-jae, who reminds me in some ways of her hardass character in BECAUSE THIS LIFE IS OUR FIRST. Whereas Joon-young wears his heart on his sleeve and tries too hard to communicate and meet her more than half-way, she refuses to extend herself emotionally. She expects him to read her mind, yet gives him precious little of her feelings to read. She lives a life of plausible deniability. Any normal person would interpret her sashaying around with Doc Ho-chul as two-timing Joon-young. She sees no problem with it, and apparently never considers that she might be sending the plastic surgeon mixed messages. What a diva. I realize that it stems from her rock-bottom self-esteem, but that doesn't mean I have to like or accept her callousness, especially in comparison to the desperate good faith in which Joon-young acts.

I practically cheered when Young-jae saw Joon-young meeting with his injured fellow cop at the hospital. In your face, madam! She deserves to stew in her own jealous juices. It was particularly nice to see her realize she was feeling the same kind of work-related jealously for which she had criticized Joon-young. And I positively loved it that he told her right away where he had been, why, and with whom. I loved seeing her squirm as her guilty conscience registered a self-inflicted direct hit.

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Yes!! Esom's characters in the Third Charm and BTLIOF have similarities that have caused me at times to really not like her, yet sympathize with her at the same time. Young-jae is a tough character at times to like because of her actions. I do think her low self-esteem is a contributor for her actions, but like you said it doesn't mean we have to like it or accept it. She's that friend that you care a lot about, but notice how their negative behaviors alienate her from others and introduces necessary drama into her life. It's frustrating to see happen, yet you completely understand why the person acts the way they do.
Like I've said in another post, I'm ready for these two characters to break up and demonstrate some significant growth so that they can enter into meaningful and loving relationships later in life. It'd be great they ended up together again, but I wouldn't be opposed to them meeting partners who better suited their personalities and beliefs while genuinely being happy for each other for being in better relationships.

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Soo-jae Orabeoni is like an older, wiser version of Joon-young. The more I see of him, the more I love him. The two of them have a lovely relationship, which I fear will be disrupted by the impending collapse of the romance. On the other hand, Soo-jae's participation in the haircutting expedition to the island sees him socializing for what may be the first time since he gave up his coffee business to focus on his scriptwriting. And speaking of scriptwriting, “Manseh!” for squeaking that submission to the contest in under the wire. I like his current haircut.

Sang-hyun must have to have been struck by lightning when no one was looking. His change in attitude dates back to Ri-won's calling up his exes and making him listen to the emotional havoc he has thoughtlessly wreaked in their lives by rakishly using and dumping them. The fact that she doesn't give a darn about him makes her all the more enticing. It is hilarious to see him struggling to grok why she is so unattainably appealing. Forbidden Disinterested Fruit, boy. She doesn't need you for anything other than a job, and she's already been scouted by a competitor. Watching him go through unaccustomed jealous meltdowns is too cute for words. But like Kim Ji-suk's Mr. Rooftop Party in OH HAE-YOUNG AGAIN, behind that playboy behavior lurks a deeply wounded soul.

Oddly enough, Ri-won is beginning to grow on me. Color me stunned. Now that she is administering ego-acupuncture to her boss she has pretty much laid off harassing her brother. I cannot think of a more deserving target of her attention.

Joo-ran's romance with Nam-chul was dogged by his overwhelming fixation on the bitchy Princess of Pomerania. Her playing third wheel to the mutt was ludicrously hilarious. I just knew that Princess was going to destroy a pair of designer heels, and was not disappointed by the ensuing brouhaha. It was mortifying, but Joo-ran is well rid of a momma's boy hung up on an obnoxious little dustmop. Kudos to the CGI folks for that wonderful smirk of triumph on Princess's puss.

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I literally cheered in the next episode. Exhausting, the both of them are.

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The end if the second charm is near, my friends! There are sooomany things that broke this relationship and theyre directly linked to the people and no evil power is their to blame. As much as I despise Ho Chul now, I initially thought he could actually be a GOOD FRIEND to Young Jae that could even help closed minded Joon Young tone down the jealousy by seeing pass the initial crush that boys and girls could be friends... But NOPE! He kept pestering and pestering to the point I just wanted the truck of doom to take him away. I dont think hes directly responsible for their breakup but I really wonder why insists so much in a person he just met instead of using that much energy when he had to fix his broken marriage...
YoungJae... I defended her at first from JY's crazy jealous reaction but now its past the point where one can defend her when she didnt actively turned Ho Chul down. She doesnt like him but accepts to stay all day with him, she doesnt like him but end up going to see him in the middle of the night... Whats up with that?? And it seems to bother her when JY is jealous and when he says hes not jealous so idk what she wants. It must not be for Ho Chul but it may look like it for JY if she breaks up with him without for once, saying whats on her mind. Imo, she didnt want to talk about Ho Chul to JY because she would have to admit the late night date and the confession later happened because she accepted his invitations instead of firmly turning him down. JY would really want to find the way to fix everything but its not on him, YJ should fix things herself but I dont think shes ready to talk about the issues and accept responsability for her share

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Completely agree with how Young-jae handled her relationship with Ho Chul. Ho Chul has disrespected both Young-jae and Joon-young to various degrees. In recent years I've noticed the importance of being honest with yourself and those around you. I can understand Ho Chul wanting/needing to declare his feelings. However, he should have stopped there and removed himself from the picture until he resolved his feelings. Young-jae not being firm with him is a big issue. She knew how Ho Chul felt and still allowed him to stick around and do date like things together. She strung Ho Chul along by not being clear and ending their connection until he resolved his feelings (not that I'm excusing his actions, he's a grown man and should no better).

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