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When Time Stops marks Kim Hyun-joong’s drama comeback

Who’s ready for Kim Hyun-joong’s comeback? (It’s okay to not be ready. I’m not sure I’ll ever be.)

Four years after his last series (period action melo Age of Feeling) and a couple years after he found himself mired in scandal over his personal life, Kim Hyun-joong is getting ready to unveil his latest project, When Time Stops. The fantasy romance drama is a 100 percent pre-produced cable series that’s a few weeks from its premiere on KBS W.

In the show, Kim Hyun-joong plays Moon Joon-woo, a man with the power to stop time who has somehow forgotten who he is — he doesn’t know how old he is, how he came to be in this situation, or where he came from. He doesn’t find it easy to connect with other people, and can only show his true self with an old friend played by Im Ha-ryong (Ms. Temper and Nam Jung-ki), who knows of the skills Joon-woo keeps secret from the rest of the world.

Joon-woo gradually comes to discover the meaning of life after meeting the character played by Ahn Ji-hyun (Time), the landlord of a three-story building who seems like a rich and privileged woman on the outside but is actually saddled with debt incurred by her father. She works multiple part-time jobs to get by and keeps a positive attitude throughout, which may just make her dramaland’s only rich Candy.

That may sound fairly prosaic, but it seems there will be a fairly significant fantasy element, with In Kyo-jin (Jugglers, Perfect Wife) playing a messenger of the gods whose role is to find people possessing superpowers and bring them to the gods. What he’ll do with them after that is anybody’s guess.

When Time Stops will air on cable station KBS W as a Wednesday-Thursday drama premiering on October 24.

Via Sports Chosun, Sedaily

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I don't know what to feel about this news.

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Me too. I have such mixed emotions. Living in the U.S. and with all the recent scandals and "boys will be boys" "proved innocent", etc. when I'm always going to believe the female's side of the story, why should I feel any differently about a male Korean star? We don't know if he's changed, if he's made amends to her, or whatever. Just don't know.

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I'm an American too and right there with you except in this man's case the story got pretty well hashed out in the media. Everyone knows what happened here and unfortunately she got caught telling some pretty big whoppers. I never doubted for a minute that he laid hands on her or that he was probably a womanizing drunk that strung her along for two years. As a American I can't say that's a bridge too far. We're still watching and listening to all kinds of celebs that have done as much as this guy and worse. He's only 30 he gets a chance to redeem himself. He hasn't spent a lifetime beating women yet.

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Exactly. When is it appropriate to give a man a second chance? And how do we view things from the woman's point of view? If she's forgiven him and sees that he's changed, then who are we to judge? On the other hand, victimized women tend to accept men back. And sometimes women get pregnant on purpose. There are no easy answers, there are so many grey areas.

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For myself, once I learn of an artist's reprehensible behaviors, speech, or even worldview, I cannot separate the art from the artist.

When would I give them a second chance? Well there are three basic conditions that need to met: 1) they fully acknowledge what they have done, and why it is wrong. 2) they apologize. Really apologize, none of this meandering around the issue, making excuses, or worse, laying blame elsewhere (for example see Kevin Spacey's amazingly awful statement of "apology"). 3) they accept and pay an appropriate punishment, whether that be time in jail, public service, or some other form of restitution depends on the offense.

I cannot think of any case where all three conditions have been met by an offending artist; therefore, my blacklist of actors, musicians, and writers keeps growing and no one gets scratched off the list.

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@egads: "there are too many dramas and not enough time..." says it all. There are enough dramas to watch anyway.
I've personally not seen true repentance from any (male) sexual offenders or an ability to change their behavior and attitude towards treating women other than less than human objects to serve their needs and their selfish desires.
So although I agree with you I probably have watched some of these actors before I knew of their behavior.
I've known a few men who have had affairs when their wives were pregnant or having health issues like cancer or in the hospital dying. Ordinary men, dads, old men, etc., so many of these men to make me wonder if any male is trustworthy. (Not that I think females are perfect, after all, for a man to have an affair takes a willing partner).

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Oh definitely I agree with you, that I cannot recall any truely repentant male offender.

I purposefully kept my response gender neutral, as well as not limiting it to sexual offenses. Female sexual offenders, as well as people that exhibit racist, homophobic, and misogynistic behaviors, are all included in my statement. And unfortunately, I must also include non-celebrities as even family and (former) friends have engaged in such reprehensible behaviors like those you've listed. I'm not a terribly forgiving person when it comes to some things, and don't want to squander my time and energy for those that don't show even a baseline of respect for others.

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@ Linda Palapala Which further proves that criminal justice does not always deliver social justice.

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@chii-le: Yup. In America I always say Not Guilty is only for the white guys. Or the Rich White Guys. Or the Rich, Powerful and Famous. It must be the same everywhere.

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Just because the victim isn't the perfect, ideal, 100% innocent doesn't mean the abuser doesn't deserve to be punished. Kim Hyunjoong has never been punished.

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I just read a news article that declared him not guilty of any charges and the ex was fined. (I should have noted the source).

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No one said that either. Don't put words in my mouth. The woman lied. She messed up her case because she embellished and lied. If he was that bad she didn't need to make up things just tell the truth.

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Just read up on him.. this Dude sounds far more volatile and shady than Park Shi Hoo. Quite the unsavory Lier.

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They sure have done a good job making him look handsome for this show. But its a pass for me. If I may delve into what happened, as far as I know, his ex-girlfriend dropped the charges, but the prosecution fined him anyway because the injuries on her body were self-evident. Sorry, not an actor I want to support.

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I'll amend that to #sorrynotsorry

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I couldn't watch Park Si-hoo's show because, after reading up on him, any attempt I made to watch Lovely Horribly left me feeling sick to my stomache. After reading about this dude...I can't. I just can't. And frankly, even if I could, I still wouldn't.

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I believe Greenfields made an attempt to separate art from the artist and watch Lovely Horribly and... couldn't.

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Yeah because the premise interested me, and Song Ji Hyo. Also as we discussed, with Park Shi Hoo being something of a "SchrΓΆdinger's rapist", there was a possibility it could be watched. But I couldn't.

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Oh that story was much more exciting than that, it was an ongoing 2 year Jerry Springer-esque train wreck. With a brief reconciliation, a baby, a DNA test, her being tried for perjury, him entlisting. Just a sordid mess. Yes, he's pretty, but he's no angel. That's a fact.

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There is no way I am ever watching anything he puts out, especially if it's a romance. Him, Park Shi Hoo, Park You Chun... it just makes me wonder how many more of our favorites are awful awful people. Once I know how they treat women I just can't do it, seeing their faces makes me sick.

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I've learned just to take great acting for what it is - people who are superb at inhabiting other characters. I have to remind myself that the people they play onscreen are characters, and not necessarily reflective of their true selves. Because too many people are shitty human beings. Too many (both public and private figures).

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But that's just it. Of course, it's subjective but for me, neither he nor Park Shi Hoo was ever a good actor in the first place. I don't know why they get to come back with lead roles.

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good agencies to support them is the reason why they could come back??

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The plot sounds like Goblin a bit heh but i look forward to it.

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Definitely will never watch. (Pre-produced is a very minor reason.)

I will say this: I do appreciate how neutral Javabeans wrote the article though. I’ve seen some do positive spins on him. I don’t think he deserves it, but I’m not surprised he’s working again.

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how many people here watched sunshine? i am curious, very curious

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Mr. Sunshine? Not me. I really like some of the supporting cast though.

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God I tried to watch Mr. Sunshine because of my love and adoration for Ms. Eun-sook and also because Lee Byung-hun might be a disgusting scumbag but at least he's not a criminal, but I couldn't get into the show. The age difference between the leads and the fact that Kim Tae-ri looked even younger than she really was next to him didn't help.

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AFAIK Lee Byung-hun is a cheater, but not an abuser (someone correct me if I'm wrong though).

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Yess, he is a cheater. But I can't get myself to watch Mr.Sunshine aven thought I really like Yoo YoonSeok

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He didn't cheat. He never laid a hand on that girl. He wouldn't hug her and called the police. That story really got turned around in those two stupid girls favor.

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@ TJ Cheating is not just limited to intercourse or physical intimacy. Lee Byunghun is a cheater.

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He didn't cheat. That's the problem. I think he wanted to cheat but he didn't. In the end he called the cops. So now we're all the thought police.

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he is very well known for his kinkiness and in general his dealings with girl.. like really well known since the beginning of his career.. the one who likes to rate girls and talk about it in .. i wonder how SHK really feels about ever dating this guy.. poor her

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Then you missed out that story of him sabotaging the career of his old lover and his old acquitance. The girl was left out and believed him yey he abandoned her after she makes sacrifice on her job for their "marriage" and how he makes that athlete goes as violent abuser for everyone to see, only to reveal years later in full cctv that the athlete was actually in self defense.

It's not just about his prostitution scandal.

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Thought police how? πŸ™„

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Thought police because everyone seemed to "know" what he was thinking and completely ignored what he actually did, NOTHING. I'm not defending "oppa" either. He's not one of my favs. but jeez those two idiots tried to "court" him BECAUSE of those stupid rumors. So, what happened when he never touched a hair on her head and turned these girls in for trying to blackmail him? The public turned against him. What the what? Because he dated before. Yes, he had another woman follow him from Canada and tired to sue him for "breach of contract". She claimed he had promised to marry her. Perhaps he had but that just shows some women will do anything, marry any man, that will elevate their bank accounts or status. Three women married Donald Trump and probably hundreds of them had some kind of sex with him. OOH. Cooties! I'd rather be poor.

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Cheating is not just limited to intercourse or physical intimacy. Lee Byunghun is a cheater.

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I did. I enjoyed it a lot, even knowing that Lee Byung-heon is a terrible person in his private life. But he's not a criminal that I know of, so I can still watch him on screen and marvel at his craft.

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Q: How would you place people who indirectly force prostitution like sponsors

" Sleep with me and get a job/promotion" kinds

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I wouldn't support them. Because that's harassment, and coercion, which are forms of (sexual) assault.

The reason adultery is not a "deal- breaker" for me (for lack of a better word) is that I don't think it's appropriate to police consensual behavior (even if it is shitty behavior), or shitty behavior that's not criminal behavior. (eg. being "difficult to work with," etc).

But when said shitty behavior spirals over into outright abuse of another person - emotional, physical, mental - or abuse of authority (using status to make someone sleep with you for a job etc), that's when I check out. Those behaviors are unconscionable. I can watch adulterer or a rude person, but I can't watch an abuser.

I do admit that the lines aren't always clear, though.

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also, arm twisting to max to get desired answer to "sleep with me and get a job/promotion"

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I tried several times but failed. I'm not a fan of Lee Bo Young, aside he is a cheater. He should be with someone else or Kim Taeri with someone else, but the two together is just not clicked on me. I like almost all the supporting cast, that's the reason I want to watch it but I still don't have an urge to start it yet. I like the OST though, they are amazing. That what amazing about Eun-sook nim dramas, not only the actors got the fandom but also the singers.

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I did and I liked it a lot. The cast were superb in their roles and that what matters to me. :)

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The premise actually sounds really good and interesting for a k-drama... but I know I won’t be watching it.

Sigh... I used to like him so much despite his lacking acting (second lead syndrome was strong with this one) but now just seeing his face annoys me. I can’t believe he still has fans after all his scandals?

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From what I've seen they refuse to engage with the details because it involves negative info about their star, see one article that the woman might have been lying or have monetary motive (even if it's media play and not true) and decide he's been the target of fake news. It's a truly astounding feat of willful blindness.

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KHJ is so robotic in his previous dramas that i never took him as an actor seriously. Boys over flower survived due to the popularity of the original version and also maybe because of lee min ho. But if its only KHJ, i'm not sure if he can carry a drama. Playful kiss was just mehhh despite itazura na kiss anime popularity huhu.

Butttt...theres in gyo jin. I have a soft spot for him since i watched same bed, different dreams and also return to superman. He's so funny.

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I love In Gyo Jin too!! I’m watching him in Return of Superman and he’s just hilarious and delightful

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Have you tried watching same bed,different dreams? He and his wife is hilarious together. Even their parents and friends are funny. Plus their daughters are cute!

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I haven’t watched it before but I might have to give it a go ^.^

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for playful kiss, i will blame major part of it on Jung so min.. she is the most irritating kotoko ever

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Actually, I think she saved the drama. She was irritating to be sure, but at least she emoted and had chemistry with her costar. With a lesser talented actress, it would have just been a total miss.

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Ariel Lin gets my vote. Her Kotoko couldn't process life without him. The fact that they added the night blindness aspect as well was like, "oh so she'll forever be permanently co-dependent."

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look objectively speaking, if that female lead's acting didn't drown the drama, nothing could. If someone was terrible in that drama it was her.. like beyond terrible

that show was messed up at so many levels and probably the worst live action adaptation of HYD.. worst ever...

But personally i was fine with KHJ in the drama, the character was meant to be stoic.. and you can't beat Oguri shun's interpretation

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When I see his face I don't like him or dislike him. Generally speaking he is not a good actor.
I have heard about some scandals, but I suppose we will always be wondering if it's true or if the gilr lied, in order to get money. Or if she was silenced with money?? πŸ€”
Whatever the truth is, very true, he became a tainted person. And even the doubt calls for caution.
But... here is my question as well: how many other public figures have even dirtier double lives and we will never know?? How many are worse, and we are still cheering for them when we see then in a drama?? With how many others we will have fantasies that we wish we wouldn't if we only knew how they are really??

What if... what if this guy is really innocent and he just had bad taste in women??? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
The show business can be really deceiving.

Anyway: although the premise of this show is very interesting, I don't feel like watching, because I won't have time, by the way...
In regard to the people involved in this drama, I wish success to those that are genuinely good people. Only God knows.

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I like your question about how we'll never know everything about public figures. It's the celebrity's image that we adore or detest. Maybe they don't deserve the hate or love that a lot of people pour on them.

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There is nothing the public can do about the people who we don't know are bad people. But if there is someone brought to light that they have done shady things then its wrong for the public to condone that and turn a blind eye. I can't with full conscience support him and his comeback.

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Yes, i understand that. And that is also why I said: however the case, whatever the truth was, he became a tainted person.
Many who would have liked his "idol (public) image", now will turn him down, because scandals bring the possibility that it is true what he did.
I understand you totally.
But for the same reason I stated in my comment, I would understand those who based upon doubts, would give him some "reasonable" trust after all this time.
I suppose, many would ask themselves if he should pay for that scandals (true or not) forever, or wether or not he should try to recover at least as an artist.
I really don't know.
But he is a young person (I mean, he is for sure nothing like a bill cosby case), so maybe... maybe even if he was guilty, he would still have the chance to redeem himself.
I don't know. πŸ™„

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If you're talking about forgiveness and a chance for the public to forgive him, then sure Im all for that. People can make terrible decisions but second chances should be given. But he also needs to ask for forgiveness or demonstrate that he learned from his mistakes. I haven't heard an apology or that he's reflecting on himself since his scandal. if he did, then great. if not, then im not sure how i could support an unrepentant person.

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True. Even if he is innocent (which we all doubt), he should make a public apology. Being in the spotlight in itself had brought him the doubt, and if not for the sin, then for the scandal he should apologize. I agree with you.
But I also doubt he would do that. It would require humbleness. Most of this artist don't have it.

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Whether his ex-girlfriend was out for the money or not does not delegitimize the fact that she was a victim of domestic abuse. People act like long-suffering victims have to be completely helpless and innocent with no hate, no resentment, no motivation for revenge. Even if their claims are thrown out because scars fade and bruises heal. Even if the emotional manipulation is abusive. Even if they have no circle of support and their only witnesses are themselves. Even if the abusers are of higher social and financial status and their supporters would defend them by stalking and causing bodily harm and mental distress to the victims.

It's true that we may never fully know all the sexual abusers and predators in the show business, but we do with our knowledge is our responsibility. Park Shihoo is only able to get lead roles back to back because of connection and because viewers were willing to watch him. Had everyone done their part in flipping him off, his connections would have had to think twice about the opportunity cost.

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Wow, I didn't even know anything involving a controversy with this actor, for I am not very aware of the news in show business, but also, I have never watched this actor in any of his productions at all.
It is interesting how so many of these young good looking men act horrible under the spell of alcohol. Or just because they are jerks

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glad to be here before the trash oppa apologists club. he's a garbage human being who should be banned from interacting with women. I hate this. there are so many talented actors who need roles, why this rotten log of wood?

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Um, I feel SILLY for asking this...but you're talking abt Kim Hyun-joong not Jung Woo right?

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Nooo not Jung Woo. I'm pretty sure she is talking about Kim Hyun-joong.

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THANKS.A.LOT. *Breathes out*
Fresh, out of AM 94, I'd been on pins and needles until SOMEBODY replied to me!

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That was so awesomely written, I read it a few times. πŸ˜ƒ

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Terrific use of imagery. I'm imagining a trash bin, all neat and covered up on the outside. Open it, and the stink hits you. Peek inside, and you see the worms and the filth and the garbage and the rot.

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thank you, I'll be signing my latest poetry book "Garbage and Fire" at your local robot cafe.

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Rotten log of wood! Rofl! 🀣

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So perfect because his acting has always defined the term wooden πŸ˜‚

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Hey those sad faces in the photo remind me of something...
Look! It's a A sad face in a tree!

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whoooop! omgπŸ˜‚πŸ˜­

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And you're sure about all their personal lives?

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I guess we can never know whether the scandal is true or not. Cos in reality, how many of the actors and actresses that we like are good people? We can never know since entertainment business is a shady business. I don't condone domestic violence in any way but I hate when there are inconsistencies in a story. If I have the time am going to watch it not because I like him or anything believe me he's d actor that I hated most in bof but there are people that are signed to this project and the plot sounds good. Truth might forever be hidden but it doesn't mean we shouldn't give people a chance to sometimes change our perception of things. I have met a man that has admitted to being a wife beater at some point in his life but now he said he doesn't even have any reason to shout at his wife anymore. He changed.

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Did you feel the same way about Lovely Horribly and Park Shi Hoo? He screwed up by being a stupid horn dog and has stayed out of scandal .This guy here has shown himself to have serious ongoing issues. Once is a mistake, twice is bad luck and 3 times is a habit.

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Honestly I don't let myself go hard on people's case and most especially on issues that have serious inconsistencies with it. Am pretty sure his fans are gonna have some pretty horrible excuse on his behalf. And I don't know who park shi hoo is until the time he was casted in lovely horribly and beanies were commenting on how horrible he is and all. And the plot for lovely horribly didn't interest me one bit and I heard it was horribly lovely. So, its not a matter of how I feel, its a matter of how I can't be a judge of someone's character when I don't know the real truth. I don't like media and their interpretation of things so am not going to base my judgement on watered truth from the media. Each side has a different story to tell, we can never know who is lying and who is telling the truth as we were not there. I don't know who park shi hoo is and I don't intend on knowing him. I only commented on the actor that I know and if I may remind you again, I said I don't like him.

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I disagree. I think we can know a lie from the truth. But when it comes to celebrities and their scandals I do think it's a good idea to take them with a grain of salt. He's starring in a drama, big deal, he's not deciding whether or not his country should go to war or provide health care to women. Being an actor shouldn't require perfection.

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it isn't about perfection, but rich getting away with things and becoming more rich in process.

His case is of abuse, there are others who have committed murder or done worse. The thing with fans and a lot of audience is, they just justify everything in name of entertainment. In cases, where it is pretty obvious to make out that behind the scene dealings happened and money or connections saved a person, by promoting movies/drama of such a person, we only end up empowering them.

In case of KHJ, he was really really big.. earning more than what SJK earned after DOTS.. and in general one of the wealthiest idol.. so this would have been a big hit to his company and him. But what that also tells corporates is that if they can lure back the fans, him as their bank balance can return.
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on severity of crime, yes there could be worse. This reminds me of the debate on establishing law over rape. I accept that i can't think objectively on rape, but then the argument really was whether rape deserves capital punishment or serious punishment as in case of murder.. but then the law kept coming back with the argument that rape is but just a form of abuse, worst form but still abuse..

So, yeah, ultimately judging severity of crime , i can't defend or attack any opinion on that. Everything boils blood, when is one act better than the other

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So instead of chosing someone who can actually act and doesn't have a history of abusing their girlfriend and drunk driving, they prefered to go for this guy? I'm still disgusted about Park Si-hoo, and now this. KBS really takes an effort to bring back and empower all those abusers, it's sickening.

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I am sure, that guy who can act and doesn't have any shady history wouldn't pay KBS as much as KHJ probably did to get this role

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Do you really believe both of these guys should forever be barred from making a living in the entertainment industry? What about a living at all? Can they sell used cars? How about cook in a restaurant? What kind of job would be acceptable for someone people have determined to be "unacceptable" forever? I'm just curious. Neither one of these guys are very old. Both around late 20's early 30's when their "crime" took place. What kind of punishment would be enough for people to say these guys can go back to work? I'm just curious.

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Boohoo. Maybe being a public figure isn't a very good choice if you're a sexual predator or an abuser then.

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I'd say it's not a good look for anyone. I'd also say that South Korea is a deeply misogynistic country and if you're worried about potentially watching "abusers" and sexual predators you might be watching the wrong men. I'd say Korean dramas are about as misogynistic as they get without being actual propaganda films.

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That doesn't excuse the indulgence of the worst of men. Sexual predators and abusers caught on CCTV and with unrefuted evidence are still paying their way to get lead roles.

The standards can be raised. Just because Earth is polluted doesn't mean we throw the whole planet away.

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lmao, that is such a lame excuse.

Even if the girlfriend has inconsistencies in her story, I've read the texts( against my better judgement) and he STILL sounds like an abusive asshole, who denied the paternity of his child, plus drunk driving and...smh.
Personally, if I'm being generous, I'll say he's a very troubled young man who is not dealing with his issues well and should seek help.

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Those texts were forged. They determined that when they investigated her for lying. Stillm he's no saint that's for sure. He was a drunk and womanizer and in the end just plain stupid. This and all those other similar scandals that took place during the past 5 years just proves that "oppa" ain't no saint.

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Actually, the court had identified that the ex-gf did omit text messages from the log she submitted. However with investigation etc, they also found that none of the content was forged and that the things she omitted in the text log weren’t particularly disadvantageous for her anyway.

So turns out- while KHJ has been acquitted of certain charges... the truth is he really did send those horrible text messages...

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Well, that doesn't surprise me because I didn't find them all that "horrible". What I detected that she didn't was how manipulative her language was, and how stupid he sounded. So I was right about both of them again. They are both morally bankrupt and just because he might have hit her doesn't make her a nice person. She was willing to accuse him of multiple assaults that he didn't commit including beating her to make her abort. It was just a disgusting display of how low people can sink in these kind of situations.

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They were edited. So what? The court found that she lied. Can we trust the Korean courts system? I don't know. All I know is in the end the courts made her look guilty and him not so bad. I'm not saying YOU should forgive him for anything. I don't care. I'd just like for people to realize that he didn't RAPE her like some seem to think and he didn't beat babies out of her. That was lie and it really would make him a monster.

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First of all the victim never claimed she was raped by Kim Hyunjoong. I can't be responsible for people conflating a domestic abuse case with another case.

Second, Kim Hyunjoong never refuted the text messages mentioning that he beat her.

Third, the fact she doesn't have the proof for all the miscarriages for court doesn't necessarily mean they never existed. Early miscarriages are extremely common and the symptoms are often not severe enough to require professional medical care. I'm skeptical whether Kim Hyunjoong specifically caused the miscarriages as she alleged, however, given the history of physical violence, it is not out of the question.

Fourth, whether the victim lies do not negate the fact the Kim Hyunjoong also lied about pushing her when practicing martial arts. In fact, he did more than just lying.

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There is nothing in my account that is different from yours except the fact that she got caught lying about him. I'm afraid that pushing her does not rise to the level of beating babies out of her body. Nor did he break into her place of residence in the middle of the night. Like I said before, they are both scuzzy and I'm sorry if you think that men should be held more accountable just because they are men. He paid her off. That wasn't enough. The biggest mistake he made was not leaving skid marks running away after he paid her off the first time. He's a drunk and dumbass but he's not evil incarnate. And she was no angel. She was manipulative and willing to commit perjury to get him to marry her. They're both disgusting.

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Since you're still insisting that, you must haven't understood.

Kim Hyunjoong didn't just push his ex-girlfriend. The text messages, though truncated, clearly mentioned the violence that left bruises on her body and faces. These messages were not fabricated and never refuted by Kim Hyunjoong. In some of them, he mentioned turning himself to the police to make her feel bad.

Given the history of cheating and violence given by unrefuted evidence, it is not out of the questions that the bodily harm caused by Kim Hyunjoong may cause miscarriages. Just because the aftercare was not facilitated or documented by a medical facility doesn't mean the miscarriages did not happen.

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So yes, Kim Hyunjoong likely has committed multiple assaults that you so ardently claimed the victim lied about. I'm sorry you feel like you have to defend the honor of a man you never met just because you don't think the victim deserves respect.

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I guess I'm just confused about what dramaland is lacking to so sorely need this guy to make a comeback. Handsome men? No, dramaland has them in spades. Men who can actually act? Well, last I checked, Kim Hyun Joong was never actually bringing that to the table, anyway. Did he use the dead spot in his career to work on becoming a better human being and maybe also take some acting lessons? Then I'd be willing to give his show a watch.

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well clearly they needed a rapist to come back and get 40%+ rating

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He was never accused of raping anyone. He was accused of beating his girlfriend.

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Hard Pass. He was never a good actor anyway, even without his huge scandal.

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I heard that he admited to pushing her.. but the bruises were from the gym and she was charged with fraud and extortion? Does anyone have any credible sources for the truth?
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/kim-hyun-joong-will-returning-tv-several-lawsuits-netizens-not-happy

That's all I could find... I need the truth... though I probably still won't watch because it's not really my cup of tea....

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how do you get that badly bruised in a gym? he admitted to using some taekwando skills to push her.. when she claimed him hitting her the first time.. either which way.. there were bruises, he saw the bruises, admitted to pushing her

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Right? So... why would she drop the charges then? I'm missing something right?

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lot of potential explanations, but rather stick to what we know

he saw the bruises, he listened to the allegation, he accepted pushing her and trying some martial skill move on her out of *not sure if it was in jest, can't recall his reason for using martial arts*

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She dropped the accusation because they made up, but then they broken up again and all the paternity happened. Honestly this is the pattern of an abusive relationship.

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From on what I remember, both drank excessively. He played around while they were dating, while she thought they were exclusive. She was skilled at taking texts out of context to prove her case and use the tabloid Dispatch as the platform.

When they finally counter-sued each other a couple years later, his legal team argued that she demanded and received at least 2 large sums of money from him. The team wouldn't bring this up without some evidence. The court would have to determine the validity.

One for dropping charges, even though she adamantly denied dropping charges in exchange for money at the time. One maybe was for the abortion that she said he forced her to get.

She accused him of assault several months after it had happened after they broke up. Without witnesses, almost impossible for outsiders to determine the cause and what actually happened. They broke up and got back together a few times after this "scandal". Eventually, pregnancy that led to the baby, and more ugliness that played out publicly.

Her version of various events between them evolved. I remember their texts she initially released about the assault. Months later, when things quieted down, she brought up the previous abortion. She released texts as proof. These showed that those above were selectively taken out of a longer conversation. But what was the conversation about anyway, the assault, the abortion or something else entirely?

I believe her credibility took a serious hit when she and his parents had some kind of dispute over visiting her at the hospital during prenatal care. She released "edited version" of their text communication. His parents hired legal counsel then released the entire communication to show they didn't act the way she would lead the public to believe.

By this time, most comments seemed to be of the sentiment: "To have these two as parents, that poor baby!"

As far as I'm concerned, they were both very messed up. Obviously, he might still have a drinking problem. Don't know about her. Might be interesting to see whether they will have more public "drama" once this drama airs.

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https://www.soompi.com/article/885175wpp/kim-hyun-joong-emerges-victorious-court-battle-ex-girlfriend

I found this one too... but I'm more confused. She got back together with a guy who beat her and caused her miscarriage??

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Thank you. This is why I keep saying there is a bit of inconsistencies in the story. I don't know the kind of love that can make me or anyone ho back to the person that made them loose their baby.

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IT IS NOT UNCOMMON THAT DOMESTIC ABUSERS CAN BE EMOTIONALLY MANIPULATIVE.

There, I said it louder for the people in the back.

Y'all need to stop dismissing victims of domestic abuse just because they have an emotional attachment with their abusers.

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Because...that's how abusive relationships work? See Rihanna and Chris Brown and the many, many, countless stories about toxic relationships and why people remain in them.

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Cicly Tyson and Miles Davis, Tina Turner... There's a laundry list of celebrities who've remained in abusive relationships. Just think about all the people who aren't famous.

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Like Flightey Gazelles said, this happens A LOT in abusive relationships. This isn't an inconsistency in her story, this sadly happens too often. A lot of time an abusive relationship is more then just physically abusive, it is also mentally and emotionally abusive which causes these women and men to feel like the only person who can love them is the person hurting them the most. Sometimes they are afraid to leave them. It's also why you will see people in an abusive relationship keep it silent even from authorities or lie that they aren't in an abusive relationship. And a lot of time it has nothing to do with love that these people go back into an abusive relationship.

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People forget that abuse victims often love their abusers and that the love doesn't end all at once. Abuse cycles include periods where the abuser is kind and loving and says it will never happen again. The victim wants to believe the person she loves.

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Been there, done that.
Other than that, so many young girls are so naive when it comes to men, especially good looking actors and are shocked when they act like males instead of the kdrama men who, incidentally, are written by female screen writers who write men the way they wish men really were.

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there is no such thing as "acting like a male," nor is abuse a specifically 'male' trait, although toxic masculinity does indeed play a role in certain forms of abuse. Regardless, I'm not sure if this was your intent, but this comment feels a tad victim blame-y...

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@rubytuesday I certainly didn't mean it to sound victim blamey. Eeks, maybe I should try to re word it. "Boys will be boys" is a horrible excuse, not taking into account practically ruining the woman's life. What I meant by naivete is I was once a naive female who thought all men acted like Prince Charming. I found out the hard way...

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You want this in a nutshell? I had this Jerry Springer train wreck pegged almost from the beginning. They dated for a couple of years. Which means he strung her along for a couple of years while he cheated with everything from other actresses to waitresses. He drank hard they fought about it. She started getting fed up and desperate. She even broke into his apartment with a friend while he was in the sack with another actress. He admitted to pushing her then.

When she finally went to the police in September for him assaulting her in May all she claimed she wanted was a sincere apology. At the time it appeared like she got one. He apologized and admitted to pushing her and "maybe" causing her injury while they were playing around and he was "demonstrating" martial arts moves to her. He never knew at the time she was injured and later it was determined that her pictures couldn't be verified. So everyone thought that was the end.

About 6 months later they're back in the news again. This time she's pregnant. They got back together, went to JeJu for a little reunion and she got pregnant. A DNA test prolonged the scandal. Then she came out with this rather sordid sounding text messages, as "proofs". She claimed she had multiple pregnancies and he had "beat" several of them out of her. That's when it got really over the top. Naturally there were court dates etc. In the end the court said she lied. Said the texts were falsified and order her to pay back most of her original settlement. That's when the public found out that the first time she sued him and wanted only and apology she got about 600k USD. It was all pretty clear to me that they were in one of those awful alcohol fueled relationships that nobody wants to be in. And we were all watching it. No I don't think the boy is a scummy as everyone claims. I think he has a drinking problem and huge ego and his parents interfere in his life a lot. Neither one of them came out of that looking good.

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Everyone, if you want to learn about what happened, do your own research. The comment above is full of misinformation forged into a soap opera by a person with wrong, biased information.

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No it's not. I followed that case pretty well since it got me kicked out of another website. I have no idea why you think you can find info that's different.

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Perhaps you got kicked out because your view is radicalized based on biased media reports. You injected your dramatic flair to the story and no one should take your briefing as facts.

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aside from regular comments, i am plain bored of this time travel genre.. had way too many recently

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Your comment is refreshing!

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I never get bored with time travel (unless it's gimmicky).

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nice.. i think i have reached my limits with the doctor/medical and time travel theme..

unless there truly is a twist in plot or something new to look forward to. TIme travel dramas seem to have much more in common that other dramas in other genres.. pretty much every story is the same

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Dramabeans surely hate khj. As a media outlet it can surely influence the views of other......just saying they should put the articles without a bias......As far as khj comeback one should expect from a actor is acting not what he does in his personal life....if he has done something wrong i m sure court will punish him...one should believe in justice....if you don't like him just skip this one. Don't put some mean comments as if you were there when it happens

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He did get fined.

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not this case in particular, but in general, should people turn away their eyes from wrong just because court did not rule it wrong..

ah well, i wonder how many countries' judiciary is so corruption free and pristine

and specifically in this case, when we know how much collusion exists between governments, conglomerates, executive, and judicial boards.. tch tch..

every country has its nuances.. and korea is one which is run by big corporations and big families

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Then you surely my friend don't believe in Korean justice system

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if you believe in the justice system you haven't been reading the news.

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You my friend, are wearing rose tinted glasses and choose not to take them off

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Well I may be wearing rose tinted glasses but my friend I do believe in justice and let me remind you are the one who is posting on my comment and I don't think so that I in any way use idioms to make other person look like stupid. You may like leaving mean comments but my friend sometimes you need to be considerate of other person feelings. No doubt you are a narrow minded person. Open up a bit

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@ Manika oh, grow up

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Criminal justice doesn't equal social justice. You can't cry that people are mean just because they don't agree with your opinion.

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I can't think of any country that isn't run by big corporations and big families.

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True that!

Correct me if wrong, but from what i read about SK's growth spurt, what i understand is (across a lot of articles), all govt. were consciously willing to bend rules and kowtow to these companies because of the immense dependency they felt on these corporations to sustain economic growth of the country. Even if corruption or any other issue would come up, the admin bodies would think twice whether letting corporations have a free hand is more important than punishing them.

THings have started to change very recently which is definitely great.

Not all countries behave the same way. I highly doubt if most of the advanced economies can by completely played by corporations leaving people with very little choices. Yes, I do agree with you that the power panel, cartels, hidden "collaborations" all play a much greater role than we know of. but still that sense of extreme dependency is not there in many countries, specially advanced economies.

Ofcourse, this is all coming from general articles that i read during president impeachment and why it has taken so long for them to react to corruption, followed by imprisonment of head honchos of some of the biggest conglomerates.

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I think Dramabeans went a bit soft on him actually.
But, hey, after Lovely Horribly barely broke 1% and this one tanks, maybe the industry will learn not to hire rapists and wife beaters.

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shi hoo already has another drama lined up
and KHJ has been having super successful runs with his concerts and fanmeeting

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I was waiting for this comment.

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I think we all were! πŸ˜‚

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Oppa didn't mean it!!!! xD

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I didn't even know he had a scandal until the comments here. I've only seen 2 dramas with him and he was awful in both of them. Boys Over Flowers and Playful Kiss. I had no interest in watching this even before I knew about his scandal, but now that I know I am even less interested in this. It's so sad how these men are able to make comebacks after the horrible things they do.

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rofl , so here's the thing

that MCW drama has 30 comments after 3 days..
and this already has 50 comments in matter of hours..

net: any publicity is good publicity.. people may just watch it out of spite.. and this drama may perform better than expected

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This may be true. At the same time, some people are unaware of his scandal and this may sway people from watching this.

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I don't plan on watching this. Did you see the expressions on the shoots? Or rather did you see the same look on all the photos ?

He is a bad actor previously. The plot is not interesting and there is that scandal. Why are there still excuses?

And yes I used to be a fan.

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didn't work for lovely horribly.

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ah well from what i read, drama was plain bad .. acting was bad, jihyo was boring, chemistry between leads was null, plot was way too uninteresting.. there was no pull factor

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I'm sorry, I laughed. I'm sure he'd like to be able to stop time IRL and forget who he is πŸ˜’

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I don't want to say anything here, except I have always liked In Gyo-Jin and wish he had a better cast to work with.

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God, I hope he doesn't throw clocks at the FL and use an excuse, "Oops, I'm getting into my role."

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My question is - would his ex girlfriend watch it?

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Wow and whoa...fair question.

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I liked him in We got Married then saw him in BOF. I didn't like his acting in there, and since I have stopped watching any drama with him in it.

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NOPE. Hard pass.

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Hard pass. Doing my part in telling the industry that we don't need to support abusers.

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