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Hundred Million Stars From the Sky: Episode 9

Tension is building and our female protagonist Jin-kang may soon face an impossible choice. One person after another advises Jin-kang to steer clear of someone like Moo-young, but she’s torn because she’s miserable without him. For all of her brother’s preaching about second chances, does that apply to Moo-young, or is he the one exception to his rule?

 
EPISODE 9: “So who actually killed her?”

Moo-young follows a distraught Jin-kang, who doesn’t notice the police van that pulls up to arrest Moo-young, or that he keeps looking at her as he’s led away. Jin-kang’s steps are heavy as she recalls that she admitted to Moo-young that she thought of nothing but him when he was missing, furious that he didn’t value his own life. Miserable, Jin-kang stops to lean against her house.

Jin-kook pats Yoo-ri reassuringly and saves her recorded statement on his phone. He takes a call from So-jung, who’s been trying to reach him with news that Cho-rong arrested Moo-young for Jeong Mi-yeon’s murder. Reporters are at the station when Moo-young arrives and So-jung tells Jin-kook to come in right away.

The scene is chaotic as Moo-young emerges from the police van, concealed by a cap and a mask. Moo-young is escorted inside while Cho-rong stays back in the van and when Jin-kook tries to call, he declines it.

The detectives search Moo-young’s place and one of them finds the childhood drawing just as Jeong Mi-yeon’s missing trophy is discovered. The drawing is tossed to the floor when the detective runs out.

In an interrogation room, Detective Gun sets out the trophy, cell phone and bloody envelope of cash. Moo-young agrees that he brought the items from Jeong Mi-yeon’s house and the detectives behind the two-way mirror congratulate Chief Lee on solving the case.

Just as Moo-young confesses to Jeong Mi-yeon’s murder, Jin-kook arrives and throws the case into disarray with the announcement that he has the real killer, “She turned herself in, and I recorded her first testimony today.” It’s at that point that Moo-young turns to the two-way mirror, as if he’s looking at Jin-kook.

While So-jung sits with Yoo-ri, she explains that Jin-kook is in a jam because of her. So-jung urges Yoo-ri to tell the truth during her testimony and just as the girl agrees, Cho-rong shows up to ask if she’s the one who confessed.

Chief Lee stands by as Jin-kook shows their boss a video of Yoo-ri with a boyfriend in a compromising positon, recorded when she was in high school. He explains that Jeong Mi-yeon ended up with a copy of the video and over the course of a year, she used it to blackmail Yoo-ri. At first she wanted handbags, but once Jeong Mi-yeon’s father went bankrupt, she demanded $100,000.

The department has a public relations nightmare with two confessions after making a big show of Moo-young’s arrest. Chief Lee’s boss wants the identity of the real murderer and Chief Lee promises to take care of everything as he glares at Jin-kook.

Cho-rong and the other detectives listen to Yoo-ri’s statement and hear about Jeong Mi-yeon’s blackmail attempt. All Yoo-ri could raise was $20,000 and Jeong Mi-yeon threatened to post her video to her mother’s hospital’s website if she didn’t come up with all of the money.

Yoo-ri took sleeping pills in desperation and when she woke up, the police were investigating Jeong Mi-yeon’s murder. Yoo-ri was happy to hear that Jeong Mi-yeon was dead, unaware that she was the one who killed her.

Jin-kook pays a visit to Moo-young to ask why he lied about being the killer. Moo-young explains that he wanted to end things quickly because his mind was consumed by another problem, and he mutters that he should have lied earlier when he thinks about Jin-kang.

Jin-kook shares the news that Yoo-ri turned herself in and verifies that Moo-young suspected that she was being blackmailed. Jin-kook also confirms that Moo-young was at Jeong Mi-yeon’s home two weeks before the murder, when he escorted the drunk girl home.

Moo-young backs up Yoo-ri’s claim that she couldn’t reach him on the day of the murder because he was busy at the brewery. When they connected that night, Moo-young thought Yoo-ri sounded high, which wasn’t unusual. She told Moo-young, “Mi-yeon is here,” as she peered through a partially open door.

Moo-young left for Mi-yeon’s apartment, and it was on the way that he was caught by the dash cam. Before he entered her building, he heard a thud, and when Jin-kook asks if he saw Jeong Mi-yeon fall, Moo-young explains that he only heard it.

Jin-kook calls Moo-young a liar and produces a photo from the dash cam footage. Jeong Mi-yeon fell almost a half hour after that footage was captured, even though Moo-young was only a few minutes away.

Jin-kook proposes that Moo-young was actually in Jeong Mi-yeon’s apartment when Yoo-ri killed her, which makes him guilty of intent to murder. Moo-young suddenly asks about the time and walks out, because he can’t be questioned after 10 p.m. without his consent.

Moo-young’s arrest is the top news item and Jin-kang reads about the investigation at work. When So-yeon tries to talk about the case, Jin-kang runs out without a word.

At a police team meeting, Detective Gun reports that Yoo-ri’s and Moo-young’s statements corroborates the other’s. The gap in Moo-young’s timeline is explained by the discovery that he stopped at a convenience store across the street and charged his phone for twenty minutes.

The police team’s current theory is that while Yoo-ri was high on drugs, she killed Jeong Mi-yeon and Moo-young cleaned up after he arrived on the scene. Cho-rong clenches a report of Moo-young’s calls when Chief Lee’s boss asks for a report of the calls made by Yoo-ri and Moo-young.

A police briefing on the case is about to begin when Jin-kang calls So-jung, who notices right away that Jin-kang is upset. Haltingly, Jin-kang asks if Moo-young confessed and So-jung verifies that he did, but adds that the police are about to announce that he’s not the murderer. When Jin-kang hangs up, she sobs with relief.

Still in custody, Moo-young calls work and then asks to make another call. He starts to write down Jin-kang’s number but then changes his mind.

Chief Lee sees Jin-kook after the briefing and promises that he’ll see to it that he’s forced to resign. Meanwhile, when Detective Gun asks for Moo-young’s phone records, Cho-rong hands over a report with an offer to compile the list of witnesses. Once Cho-rong is alone, he looks at a different copy of Moo-young’s phone report and enters one of the numbers into his phone, confirming that it belongs to Jin-kang.

Jin-kang’s design team arrives at Arts Brewery, surprised to see Woo-sang’s sister, Jang Se-ran, leaving. So-yeon shares that after Jang Se-ran got divorced, she endured a vicious fight with Woo-sang for the NJ Group’s management rights. With Woo-sang gone, Jang Se-ran now has everything that she wanted.

During their drive, Woo-sang’s secretary mentions that Moo-young’s million dollar check was sent anonymously to his old orphanage. Jang Se-ran is intrigued by the news and wonders what Moo-young is up to now.

Cho-rong shows Moo-young that Jin-kang’s number showed up on his phone history. Cho-rong remembers seeing him in front of Jin-kang’s house and a flashback shows the almost-kiss between Cho-rong and Jin-kang.

Cho-rong is angry, because Jin-kang could be called to testify in a murder case thanks to Moo-young. He tells Moo-young that if he sincerely cares for Jin-kang, he shouldn’t contact her again.

Over dinner, CEO Hwang shares a rumor that Arts Brewery plans to open a new pub. As the team toasts to the promise of more work, CEO Hwang and So-yeon guess that Jin-kang has been glum because of boyfriend problems.

CEO Hwang advises that easy-going men may not be fun, but they’re dependable and Jin-kang guesses, “A guy who has no money, is handsome, and is complicated would be the worst then, right?” CEO Hwang jokes that Jin-kang just described her husband and warns, “If you ever meet a guy like that, run away.”

So-yeon reminds CEO Hwang that she was deeply in love when she married, but she warns that with that type of man, it’s best to run away before it’s too late. Jin-kang insists that she’s a fast runner, but the conversation weighs heavily on her.

A very drunk Jin-kang has to be helped to her room by Jin-kook. She’s obsessed with the time that she won all the races at school and Jin-kook laments that her proudest day was in elementary school. When Jin-kook leaves her alone, Jin-kang moodily covers her eyes to sleep.

In the morning, Jin-kook brings something for Jin-kang’s hangover, but she’s already gone. Jin-kang is out riding her bike, but all she can think about is CEO Hwang’s advice to run away. When Jin-kang sees a cat, her thoughts turn to Moo-young and just when she remembers their kiss, she finds herself in front of the police station.

Jin-kang turns her bicycle around and runs into Cho-rong. They’re awkward with one other so Cho-rong helpfully suggests that they should get together once the murder investigation is over. When they part, he watches Jin-kang walk away with a concerned look.

Jin-kang runs back to ask Cho-rong to pick something fun from his list of one-hundred things to do, so he suggests visiting the ocean. Cho-rong goes back to work looking relieved while Jin-kang walks away determinedly.

At the station, Detective Gun invites Jin-kook to attend Yoo-ri’s interrogation and when he’s asked about Moo-young, he informs Jin-kook that the prosecutors let him go.

Jin-kang reaches her house and finds Moo-young waiting for her. When he asks if she’s seen his cat, she coldly suggests that he should search the playground where all of the neighborhood cats end up. Moo-young wonders if the police have contacted her and then explains his arrest and potential trial, quickly adding that he didn’t kill anyone. Jin-kang admits that she heard about his case and as she tries to get away, Moo-young asks if she’s scared of him.

Jin-kang confesses that she’s scared because she doesn’t understand him, so Moo-young encourages her to ask him anything. Jin-kang decides, “I don’t want to understand you. I don’t trust you,” but when she walks inside, she looks sorry.

On his way home, Moo-young passes a black sedan parked on the street. When he gets home, Mo-young sees his childhood drawing on the floor and rushes over to pick it up.

During her transport to prison, Yoo-ri asks Jin-kook if Moo-young was released from custody. He tells her that even though Moo-young was released, he’s still under investigation and she’ll have to testify about everything that he told her, such as Jeong Mi-yeon’s door code. Yoo-ri asks Jin-kook for a favor in return.

Moo-young fell asleep clutching the drawing and the memories that were triggered by the car accident return to him in a dream. This time, the man at the table falls as he’s shot and young Moo-young calls out to his father. Moo-young’s eyes fly open when he hears a woman call his name and he searches for Jin-kang, but she’s at home.

Jin-kook walks to Jeong Mi-yeon’s apartment building and then visits the same convenience store where Moo-young charged his phone. According to Cho-Kong, the part-timer who worked that night said that Moo-young bought a yogurt drink and looked out of the store window for the twenty minutes that it took for his phone to charge.

Jin-kook sits in the same spot where Moo-young sat and places a call. When Moo-young joins him, Jin-kook tries to figure out what his thoughts were that night. What Jin-kook can’t figure out is Moo-young’s motive, but Moo-young wonders if Jin-kook always knows why he does things. Jin-kook recites, “3 times 5 is 15. 3515,” and insists that he’d remember doing something like giving Jeong Mi-yeon’s passcode to Yoo-ri. In a flashback, we see that Moo-young causally told Yoo-ri, “Your friend, Mi-yeon, is fun. ‘3 times 5 is 15’ is the door code to her house.”

As Jin-kook wonders what prompted Moo-young’s interest in Jeong Mi-yeon, a flashback reveals that Moo-young was out of sight when Jeong Mi-yeon threw Yoo-ri’s money in her face. He helped Yoo-ri pick up the money and handed her two passes to the pub with instructions to give them to Jeong Mi-yeon — and to be sure not to come herself.

Mi-yeon used those tickets and got so drunk that she ended up throwing a beer in Hee-jun’s face. Moo-young stepped in just as Hee-jun was about to hit back and escorted Mi-yeon back to her place. When she started to undress enticingly just outside of her door, Moo-young pointed to the security camera and was told that it was a fake.

Moo-young saw Mi-yeon enter her passcode and once inside, he viewed Yoo-ri’s video on the phone as Mi-yeon tried to seduce him. When Moo-young called Yoo-ri pretty, Mi-yeon corrected him, “…she’s my punching bag,” and was angry when he left after he was done watching the video.

When Moo-young gets back to his place, Jang Se-ran is waiting for him. He walks past her, so Jang Se-ran reminds Moo-young that she lost her only brother thanks to him. Se-ran laughs when Moo-young bows and then hands him her card, “If you’re sorry, come see me. We have something to discuss.”

Jin-kang visits Yoo-ri in prison, where she learns that Jin-kook promised the girl that people can always start over. Yoo-ri apologizes to Jin-kang for trying to run her down with her car and admits that it was no accident. Jin-kang asks why she did it and Yoo-ri confesses, “Because I was jealous of you,” and a series of flashbacks serve as a reminder of how Moo-young opened up to Jin-kang.

When Jin-kang returns to work, So-yeon and CEO Hwang can’t wait to tell her that Jang Se-ran was overheard discussing the new pub with the brewery’s CEO, and mentioned that Moo-young would be managing it.

CEO Hwang and So-yeon are surprised that Jin-kang isn’t at all happy about the news and point out their opportunity to secure more of the NJ Group’s business. Later, when CEO Hwang is about to leave for the day, she catches Jin-kang hard at work on a sketch of a cat.

The next day, Moo-young walks past Jin-kang and Cho-rong on his way to Jang Se-ran’s car. Moo-young watches as they leave on their planned trip to the sea and Cho-rong notices that Jin-kang is suddenly very quiet.

Jin-kook finds a report on the floor next to Cho-rong’s desk and when he sees that it’s Moo-young’s phone history, he digs around. When he finds the original report of Moo-young’s calls, Jin-kook realizes that Cho-rong removed Jin-kang’s number from the official report.

Moo-young visits the site of the new pub, Angel’s Tear, with Jang Se-ran. At the same time, Cho-rong tries to cheer up Jin-kang with a fresh snack at a rest stop, but they’re clearly not on the same wavelength because she bought some ice cream, just for herself.

The mood is tense as Cho-rong starts the car and they’re still in the parking lot when he suggests that they can see the ocean another time. When Cho-rong drops Jin-kang off at home, she breaks up with him, sorry that she wasn’t good to him.

Before they part, Cho-rong gently tells Jin-kang, “It’s okay if you don’t date me. But not him.” He reminds Jin-kang that her mood is easily affected by others and she starts to cry when Cho-rong warns, “You must not see him because of how you are.”

Jin-kang finds Jin-kook in her room and the first thing he asks is, “What’s with the long face?” He explodes in anger over a sketch of Moo-young that he found in her trash can and then pulls out Moo-young’s phone history. Jin-kook points out that if Cho-rong hadn’t removed her name, Jin-kang would have been called as a witness in a murder case.

Jin-kang tells Jin-kook that Moo-young is innocent, but he rages that nothing so sordid should have ever invaded her world. Jin-kang is appalled that Jin-kook considers Moo-young someone who can’t be part of her world and reminds him what he told Yoo-ri about second chances.

Jin-kook bellows that second chances don’t apply to Moo-young because he’s not human, nothing hurts him. Jin-kang tries to explain that he hurts just like everyone else, but Jin-kook claims that pain excites Moo-young, because he’s evil. Jin-kook grabs Jin-kang and implores her to remember what happened to Seung-ah, but she pulls away.

Jang Se-ran exits her car when she drops off Moo-young to point out, “You still haven’t asked yet. ‘Why me?'” Moo-young dutifully asks, “Why me,” and then explains that he knows Jang Se-ran doesn’t need a reason, she can do as she pleases. Jang Se-ran acknowledges that he’s right and urges Moo-young to consider her offer carefully.

Jin-kang is waiting for Moo-young and when he moves towards her, she explains that everyone thinks that he’s a jerk. Jin-kang confesses, “I don’t want you to be a jerk. I’m scared because you seem to keep going astray.”

When Jin-kang asks, “Will you take that job?” Moo-young answers, “I won’t if you tell me not to.” She implores, “Don’t do it. Promise that you’ll be a nice person.” Moo-young doesn’t answer right away but when he finally speaks, he begs Jin-kang, “Then teach me.”

 
COMMENTS

Jung So-min managed to convey the misery that overtook every cell in Jin-kang’s body, and convinced me that without Moo-young, she didn’t have the will to go on. In spite of everyone’s advice, in spite of her own fears, Jin-kang can’t disentangle herself from Moo-young and rather than accept the inevitable, it looks as if Jin-kook will do everything in his power to see to it that Moo-young goes to prison. Jin-kook is eerily similar to Woo-sang, in that he’s unwilling to allow Jin-kang to be with Moo-young. There are hints that Jin-kook has a very good reason, but rather than sharing his concerns with Jin-kang, he’s trying to force the situation, which will only push Jin-kang closer to Moo-young. In my opinion, whatever happens going forward is Jin-kook’s responsibility because he has the ability to come clean, but he’s unwilling to risk his relationship with Jin-kang.

Seung-ah was imprisoned by both her mother and Woo-sang, a poor little rich girl. Likewise, Jin-kang is just as trapped by Jin-kook, unable break out of the protective cocoon that he’s created for her. Jin-kook can’t bear for anything distasteful to touch Jin-kang and because he’s judged Moo-young to be evil, there’s no way that he’ll ever accept him. Jin-kang was told again and again to stay away from someone like Moo-young, but no one ever asked how she felt, what it was that she wanted. Jin-kang is not a child anymore but no one seems to trust her enough to allow her to live her own life and make her own mistakes. As a result, Jin-kook refuses to see that Jin-kang is miserable without Moo-young.

Moo-young, to his credit, doesn’t seem to want to do anything to hurt Jin-kang and if that means staying away from her, that’s what he’ll do. He does seem capable of sincere concern and displayed a willingness to make sacrifices. Jin-kang wants to see Moo-young get the second chance that Jin-kook was willing to give himself and that he offered to Yoo-ri. When Jin-kook confessed that he believed that Moo-young was evil, I could practically hear the bonds between him and Jin-kang breaking. I fear it’s only the beginning.

In spite of the powerful relationship shifts in this episode, my interest was hi-jacked by Woo-sang’s sister, Jang Se-ran. I would love to see her join forces with Moo-young to forge their way through the world. They are so similar and I can only imagine what their partnership would look like. I have a feeling that Jang Se-ran is controlling Moo-young behind the scenes, which is why he was released from jail, but what’s going to happen if she stands between him and Jin-kang?

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The last scene of this episode is one of my favorites. Moo-young finally expressed some form of emotion after he sensed how desperate Jin-kang really was for their relationship. I can't trust completely that he actually wants to learn how to be a good person, but I hope this indicates a change in Moo-young's behavior. Is that too much to ask for?

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Even if he was being honest, if he wants to change just to please her, would it be real?

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I am of the opinion that people don't change that easily. I have seen a couple of relationships where one partner tries to "fix" or "improve" their significant other and honestly? It never worked in the long term.

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This is SUCH an old trope. But it's also oh so real. It happens over and over again bc no one ever believes they cannot fix the other - until it's too late.

I do think the show is expressing very well why Jin-kang falls for this and what she gets out of it. She gets to feel super special and unique: this bad, emotionless man DOES feel something for her. He cares so much he will change for her. Because of her love.

In a way her sheltered upbringing contributes a lot to this as she has zero experience with really bad people and believes everyone can change. And maybe, because she has been powerless so long, this gives her feelings if power and control. Finally SHE is the one in the lead, not the one being led.

And at the end, she will get burnt and destroyed.

It never ends. :/

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Exactly! Most of them thought that if they could fix them, then it said something about them. Like you said, that they were special in some ways because they succeeded where others had failed.

In the end, it all boils down to themselves and their selfish desires.

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It's like Jin-kook has never heard of Romeo and Juliet. Telling two lovers that they can't be together is the perfect way to get them to rebel and pursue their love. If Jin-kook was smart, he would have shared everything he knows so far about Moo-young.

Which brings us to an interesting point, is Moo-young to blame in the girl's murder? He didn't kill her but I feel like he set a lot of things in motion and he definitely didn't prevent it. He waited 20 mins outside the apartment which means he totally could have gone inside and stop Yoo-ri.

And this is what I wish Jin-kook told Jin-kang. The dude may not be a killer but he is definitely not an innocent bystander.

Also, I don't know what Woo-sang’s sister wants, which is both scary and intriguing.

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In Jin-kook's defense he's not saying MY is from an enemy family. He's saying the guy is evil. And she has some proof of that. Most women would listen.
I do agree he should have shared his part in the murder.

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I think I have somewhat scouted MY's motive for setting bad things up. It has always to do with people giving out money. In SA's case it was her boyfriend who tried to bribe him into staying silent at the art gallery. And in this murder case it was the victim who blackmailed Yuri.

I think it is the humiliation or the perceived differencs in power that comes from both of these actions that makes him do it...

May I just add that MY's hair game is spot on? That reddish color suits SIG so well and although it wasn't on full display this episode it looks so fluffy I just want to pat him on the head. (I'm sure MY wouldn't approve.)

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But she already knew he is bad news. She knows what happened to Seung Ah, and that MY don't even feel sorry about her death and wouldn't change his action even if he knew what happen, he said it to her face. She choosing to ignore all the alarm bells, because he is nice to her.

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That scene was just chilling. He sat, and watched, and waited for 20 minutes, waiting for Yoo ri to bludgeon the other girl to death.

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We don't know the whole story about what happened in the brother's past yet but I think he's very different from Woo Sang. He just wanted to control SA out of vanity, and whatever feelings he had for her, they were not true love, I think the brother's love for JK is unquestionable.
He was wrong not to tell her the truth but it was done to protect her, he probably never thought that kid would show up again, and be a sociopath, and try to date his probable long lost sister.

I don't really understand Jin-Kang, she started to love MY too fast. It's like she is attracted to evil, the more bad things he did, the more she became morally outraged but also much more interested in him.

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But has loving someone ever been logical? As her boss said it even if you know you’re falling for a bad guy and you’re making a bad decision, you still do it because love isn’t logical. The heart wants what it wants.

I definitely put a blame on JG. If he shared what his suspicions were about the connection between MY and JK, she’d definitely stop there. But that would mean coming clean about killing someone and that someone was probably her father which is twisted.

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He could have also just told her MY was letting an innocent man go to jail in the murder case. If she still wanted him, she would know exactly what she was getting into, but that would mean no more angsty love. :)

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I thought the show made it pretty clear she was attracted to him the minute she met him. Her determined avoidance of him was a classic tactic for finding your best friend's boyfriend attractive. Then she told herself she couldn't get involved with him because of her friend's feelings. But I thought it was pretty clear this has been happening since day one. She hasn't been able to stay away from him.

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That last scene! Omaygah, that last scene!
I can see how much it cost Moo-young to say that words. To tell her to teach him be a good person. It's almost like he couldn't believe someone will do that for him. It's as if he wasn't even sure he can be that person. And tbh, I agree with him. But I also can see how much Jin-kang's thought about him means to him. We'll have to see how far he is willing to go to be that person for her.

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I loved how Seo In Guk showed Moo Young hesitation. It’s wasn’t a simple answer. We can see MooYoung trying to find the answer that is neither a lie or a promise. He couldn’t say yes cuz he’s probably incapable of defining good. He couldn’t say no because he knows JinKang will leave like the episode before. He couldn’t fake a yes because he didn’t want to lie to her. And his final answer was perfect. It conveys his realized incapability to be good, his desperate desire to please her, and his true promise — I’ll try.

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Jang Se-Ran is a much scarier opponent than Woo-Sang; with Woo-Sang, at least we know what his endgame is. But she's just in it for the fun, and she has no weakness that we know of. I actually feel sorry for Woo-Sang because of her, can't imagine what it's like having to grow up around her.

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Well, she’s exactly like MY except that he’s not interested in her while she’s definitely interested in him and wants to control and “tame” him. Two people of the same species recognise each other.

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Yes, if JinKook’s love gave JinKang the bright warm personality that she is, SeRan is the opposite to WooSang. Siblings can do a lot of harm to siblings, just like bad parents to a child

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She seems to be setting to be big bad, she has the same personality traits as MY but no setbacks because of her money and power, she isn't accustomed to not getting what she want.

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what was Woo-sang's endgame? I seem to have forgotten lol

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Woo-Sang endgame was that he wanted Seung-Ah back.

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but he was always so mean to her? did he ever love her?

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This is debatable, but I think he did love her, even if it was extremely selfish and toxic. Although I don't think Woo-Sang even knows what a healthy and loving relationship is supposed to be like; he probably thought it was enough for him to throw material things at Seung-Ah and she would be happy.

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Watching this episode and the next one, give me a whole different perspective on Moo Young. In this episode, there are things he does and says that give glimpses into a person who is not completely "bad." The very fact that he confessed to the murder is a sign that he was considering taking some responsibility for it. Yes, he just wanted to get things over with, as he said, but confessing to a murder isn't necessarily the best way to go about that. Moo-Young asking Jin-Kang to teach him how to be good is another hopeful sign. Him starting to call Jin-Kang from jail and changing his mind also shows that he is reflecting on his behavior and considering the outcome or consequences of his behavior. We don't really know his motivation for wanting to call her as it could be very different from what we imagine.... maybe it was his need to communicate with her because she is so heavily on his mind, or maybe it was to manipulate her or it could have even been in a simple hope of receiving a little bit of comfort from her. We don't really know. The fact that he actually did turn down the sister of the rich guy who died in the car crash is important, too. Even if that turns out not to be a final decision, it is a hopeful turn of events and does show that he is willing himself to be manipulated by Jin Kang also. I have not watched the Japanese version and try to ignore the comparisons that go beyond the episodes we are watching, so I am only going on what I see in this Korean version. By the way, I do love the comparisons Beanies give to the Japanese version when they stop at the current episode and don't get ahead....

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Maybe he confessed because he knew Yoo-Ri would come forward? Maybe he asked her to teach him because that's the exact thing she wanted to hear? :)
Like you said, we don't know. We do know he rejected Se-Ran's offer just because it was JK's request and he decided to play nice, for now. He is not being manipulated by anyone, he cares for JK, so he allows her to ask him to do or not do some things, but he is always aware of everything.

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I think Yoo-ri had already begun confessing before MY confessed. In fact, she told MY that she was thinking about confessing (telling that man everything about that night) when she was up on MY's porch with him.

Yes, he is being manipulated by Jin Kang. It is with his knowledge and consent, but he would have done something different if Jin Kang had not pressured him not to take the job. Well.... maybe I am too generous in my definition of "manipulation." We still don't know how that will turn out...and I think we both suspect he will end up taking the job anyway. I don't think manipulation requires that a person not be aware of what is going on. I think often when we are being manipulated, we go along with it even knowing we are being manipulated.

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I think that he will take on the job, too, 'coz if not then what use is the character Jang Se-ran for, right? But, the bigger question here is, what will spur him to push through with the job offer if he has already promised JK that he won't? I see it coming maybe Ep 11 or 12.

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My guess is that there is some type of threat to JK that makes him decide to take the job if he does.

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On the other hand, if he turns out to actually BE an evil sociopath, then he might just get pissy and take the job to hurt JK. But I'm hoping that isn't the case.

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@zzthorn i prefer the former, coz if it's the latter then that MY might just be a sociopath... which i hope he isn't.

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I think he will take the job. He’s just not rushing to get it because he needs to pacify JinKang, which is more urgent. I think MY loves his job. It’s not just a means of living. He gets to control the outcome of the beer with his small tweaks here and there. The work is done mostly independent and in a very inhospitable setting. It totally fits his character. (Ingenious change from the fancy restaurant sous chef in the J-version.) Besides over SeungAh, his war with WooSang was escalated when he lost his job, and so he sent WooSang the wedding beer as a small payback. I think at the back of his mind he thinks he can return to take this offer anytime he wants.

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I'm really excited to see how this all plays out. Can't wait for a recap on episode 10 as I see many things in that episode that give me hope for Moo Young to be more human than monster. But, I also know I am going to be very disappointed if (when) he takes the job offered by Woo Sang's sister. It'll be almost as bad as if we find the cat in a shoebox on the porch. I just keep convincing myself that MY is not as bad as everyone believes him to be and I cling to the threads of hope. It's quite easy to see how all these women fall all over themselves as they become obsessed with him. He is just too confusing.

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I got different take from this episode, it confirm to me that he is evil for what he did to Yu Ri and I don't believe he can change and be "good person". Him confessing is one more of his mind games than taking responsibilities.

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I did not expect Moo Young’s walls to crumble at her request. The last scene was more powerful than any confession I’ve watched and that’s saying something.

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Hi! Sorry I just can’t help but rant ‘coz this drama is pure love!

Episode 9 may not have many scenes that have JK and MY in it, but boy, those few are imbued with so much raw emotions. For the second time in two consecutive episodes, JK is the first one MY soughts after an ordeal (Ep8: hospitalization after the car accident-MY asks to get off the cab in front of JK’s place; Ep. 9: after being released from detention), and it says so much about how he sees JK as a “safe haven” of sorts as described in the earlier press releases.

But, I have to say that my heart broke for MY when JK said that she doesn’t want to understand him and that she doesn’t trust him. It was the first time in 9 episodes that I could actually glean sadness from his expression. I understand why JK had to do that, BUT still my heart went out to MY in that scene. (Plus, I found it quite cute and un-Moo Young that he used the pretext of looking for his cat just to break the ice!) It also marks a turning point in MY’s character development- for the first time ever he wants to be understood and seen in a positive light (as will be fleshed out more in the next episode). He used to not care what other people think of him until JK came along.

And yes, another memorable rooftop conversation with memorable performances from our leads. Seo In-guk didn’t need many lines to convey a deluge of emotions. “Then teach me”- that one line has got to be the most powerful line in the whole of dramaland this year. I think this is SIG’s finest acting project in his career. Jung So-min is also doing a fantastic job and she is able to match the intensity of SIG’s portrayal. My God. These two don’t need hugs and kisses, flowers and unicorns to make me swoon. Their chemistry is so off the charts I’m wishing they would actually date irl (haha sorry Lee Joon).

I am waiting with bated breath and with much trepidation for the calm before the storm that is Episode 10. I think we should all savor those sweet moments before the stars actually start falling down from the sky, right? 

If you read until the very end, thank you very much. Hihi. 



P.S. I sort of think that it was JK who made the drawing which MY cherishes so dearly. The thought came when JK started doodling MY and the cat this episode, and between the two characters she is the artist. Just a thought.

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I agree that this is SIG's finest acting project, an intense, muted portrayal and heartbreaking pathos that can manipulate the audience on a weekly basis. I have been enjoying Jung So Min's performances for the last couple of dramas I saw, and it's here where she absolutely breaks out. Their chemistry is absolutely breathtaking.

I know it's heading towards heartbreak somehow, as much as I'd try and ignore it. There have been too many lakes from those who know the Japanese version. So I'm steeling myself.

What's amusing, however, is to realize that as many of those who comment that the drama better not follow the Japanese version are those who swear it should. That the original version set the bar for the plot and character, and that changing it would completely undercut the story.

After this is over I'll watch the original. It probably won't contain many complete surprises as there are so many leaks in so many places online.

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Ahhaha, "too many LAKES from those who know the Japanese version." My kingdom for an editing function!

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I also think the drama would lose its punch without the tragic ending... but on the other hand my heart breaks for them just thinking about it.

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what an absolutely terrific show! That last scene was amazing and I could see all the pain in Jung So-min 😥😭 terrific actress

If Jin-kook was more open to Jin-kang about their relationship and what he knows about Moo-young, he stands a far greater chance of preventing them from being together. Would it make the narrative as interesting though? 🤔

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Jin-kang, big mistake, you let a good one go in Cho-rong.
At least listen to him.

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He grew on me. At first, he seems childish and innocent. But he proved himself to be a man in this episode and the next.

I want me some Cho Rong as well. Promise, I'll be a good person to him. He doesn't even even have to teach me how.

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I totally agree with TeriYaki's comments. As I keep watching, I keep feeling like SeungA and JK are really alike, especially how it seems like they are both trapped by their families. For SA it was more obvious, but with JK, she is trapped by how her brother and CR always tries to protect and shield her from all the bad in the world. It is a little scary seeing how SA ended up...

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Does anyone else find it a little disconcerting how easily Jin Kang is able to date her friend's boyfriend? I know Moo Young didn't really care about Seung Ah, but Jin Kang seems to have forgotten about her completely. I guess the heart wants what the heart wants. I feel bad for Cho Rang--he deserved better but at least Moo Young nipped it in the bud instead of stringing him along. Did the brother set them up because he thought they'd be good together or did he just want an in with someone else in his work unit?

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I find it disconcerting, too, inasmuch as I like JK as a whole. But just like that Selena Gomez song, the heart wants what it wants after all. Maybe JK tries to find logic in her actions (and less guilt, too) by reminding herself that it was she that MY liked all along, right from the very start and not SA.

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Plus, I would like to think that she was mighty conflicted in the past few episodes, too. At least there's some remorse on her part.

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At least JK tried to resist and felt guilty about it. In Japanese version Yuko (JK) didn’t think twice about initiating a kiss even when her friend was alive and kicking.

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Her giving so fast was weird, she confronted MY about Seung Ah and him not even feeling sorry about it and he admitted it to her face and she is okay with that, because he said he change for her, it's like she is 16 not 25.

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I most certainly felt JinKang let go of her best friend too easily. (Those following comments now probably see why I said she’s not a loyal friend. Didn’t mention this to avoid spoiling but this made me lose a lot of respect for our female protagonist.)

SeungAh hasn’t passed the 49 days mark yet, but like @cherryinbloom mentioned, JinKang did put up a decent fight. He struggle may not have been long, but it was an aggressive fight. JinKook’s push also sped up her flight for love. Maybe if left to her own serious contemplation she would have kept away. The people around her just didn’t help.

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*Her struggle

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Yes, I also find that strange, but then again, I don't think she is as nice as most here believe her to be.

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Ahh! I was waiting for this episode's recap and once again this show does not dissapoint in giving me certain chills. I'm even more frightened by the thought that Se-Ran and Moo-Young might get a certain partnership with the new brewery together, I mean just look at them. And I agree with the comments that said Se-Ran is a rather frightening character herself. She just has that certain glint in her eye that says 'come on, mess with me it'll be fun.'

And poor Cho-rong, I hope he doesn't add any unnecessary noble idiot gestures just to protect Jin-Kang from Moo-young because we already have Jin-kook for that. Haaay.

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To those of you wondering why the hell would a decent, well-brought up lady like Jin Kang fall for a potential sociopath, here are good reads that are seen through an evolutionary lens:

1. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/head-games/201310/why-do-women-fall-bad-boys?fbclid=IwAR3idINLlWQt793MpSkiw-VQXME0fQg5xF8NVaIcDhDRUNFh9_Z1V2ox1_E

"Carter and his colleagues offer two possible explanations. First, sexual selection might be at work. This would mean that women are responding to signals of “male quality” when it comes to reproduction. And with respect to short-term mating, women may be drawn to ‘bad boys’, who demonstrate confidence, stubbornness, and risk-taking tendencies. Second, sexual conflict may be at play. The investigators state that “Women may be responding to DT men’s ability to ‘sell themselves’; a useful tactic in a co-evolutionary ‘arms race’ in which men convince women to pursue the former’s preferred sexual strategy.” They note that like a “used-car dealer,” Dark Triad men may be effective charmers and manipulators, furthering their success at short-term mating."

2. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-we-are-attracted-to-deviant-personalities/?fbclid=IwAR1F_QKzIr42hKC8w-h_8qG7z6oNoSIZf7eeXr8SEkXSEfUa6vqVZDu9teg

"As for the impulsive and risk-takers—who were shown to have multiple short-term mates, Gutiérrez speculates that a number of people are attracted to those types because they are considered captivating. “While they are selfish, rule-breaking, imprudent and rebellious, they are also brave, temerarious, independent and self-reliant—and they live frantic, galvanizing lives,” he says. “This captivates many people. This desirability could also have an evolutionary basis,” Gutiérrez says, as this behavior could function as a fitness indicator, “…a signal that the subject has such good genetic quality and condition as to live dangerously without suffering harm,” he adds."

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Thanks @teachermok18. Very interesting!! I must keep this in mind each time I'm tempted to think that a sensible lady/girl is incomprehensibly falling for a most dangerous and unsuitable guy. 😉

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you're welcome! i've been trying so hard to understand the enigmatic characters and relationships in the drama so i've been doing research and looking into my notes back in college and grad school haha. im that hopelessly hooked!

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Watching in 2023, I am drawn to our antihero Moo Yeong as portrayed by SIG. Thanks teachermok18 for providing relevant expert studies shedding light on the appeal of “bad-boys” in real life. Really interesting.

On another dimension, we can ponder what magic do actors use to make antiheroes appealing. Classic idol Hollywood stars Paul Newman and James Dean are compelling antiheroes in Hud(PN), Hustler (PN) , and Rebel Without a Cause (JD). SIG and JD in their respective dramas are driven by feelings of alienation and tortured souls. SIG and PN in their dramas project a lack of humanity as they get redemption (or not) through self discovery. Ignoring time and place, SIG, PN, or JD could have effectively been interchanged as ML in any of these 3 dramas. Mainly the eyes.

We watch to discover whether Moo Young is a sympathetic antihero traveling towards redemption or instead a heartless player who regards everything as a game. At this point in the drama, I make no bets. But completely hooked.

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I'm guilty of replaying that last scene more than 5 times, just to see Moo-young's facial expressions.
When he went to see Jing-kang to ask about his cat after his release, and Jin-kang said how she don't trust him, Moo-young look so small and sad, and you can see his heart shrink at the moment. My heart shrink seeing his face.

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Thanks @teriyaki
I was quite bowled over by how nonchalantly Moo Yeong admitted false 'guilt' for the murder of Mi Yeon. It seemed that nothing much mattered to him. He didn't care about repercussions to himself or the problems he would cause others. He didn't have Jin Gook's perspective that it would be better for the real guilty party to pay for his/her crime and start over. Instead he took the easiest route as it played out before him (again), sort of manipulating the next decisions, and yet not really, and either way, he didn't care. This utter indifference, lack of feeling and lack of empathy makes him dangerous even though he may never commit any kind of killing.

I'm not even convinced that he confessed out of a sense of responsibility that he had abetted a crime. As before, he had let the 'scenario' he had set play out, and was willing to play along with it to see where it would lead. It was another interesting game to him.

It's possible that because of his fascination for Jin Kang, he may be saved, but again, he may just follow the easiest route that is presented to him. As long as JK is there to 'guide' him, he may be fine following her lead. But JK is not omnipresent and there are many other factors that can impinge on his decisions, not least JGook's actions and reactions towards him.

The fact that so many different people are warning JK against someone like MY makes him that much more lonely and possibly pitiable in her eyes, and therefore more 'in need' of her 'care' ie more attractive. These warnings inadvertently are steering her more quickly towards MY instead of doing the opposite.

Jang Se Ran is an interesting character, introduced only recently, but already exerting a greater impact on the plot than her small scenes would usually imply. If, as she claims, she has recognised in MY a similar personality as herself, and wants to manipulate MY in her games, it's going to be equal parts super intriguing and scarily explosive. With all the best of intentions, with Se Ran in the mix, MY may not be able to learn from JK how to be good, or ever to exercise it.

Since most of us anticipate a tragic ending, I admit that I'm quite for it as the most logical conclusion to the twisted fate(s) of our main threesome. If there can be no good and happy conclusion of characters alive and together, then there only remains death and separation. Or will this go the safe kdrama route of giving us some implausible in between?

Nevertheless, I do hope the helpful and generous Tak and Cho Rong, and even the sad Yoo Ri will not be left in despair but with some hope by series end. 😐

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I agree with You that there is little plausibility for happy ending in this configuration, and after this episode, after we saw how MY toyed with vulnerable YooRi, I don't see any redeemable qualities in him, JK is blinded by her attraction to him and maybe some saviour complex, so she beyond to listen to reason if his indifference toward her best friend death didn't scare her off. I feel like SeRan will be main engine pushing us toward tragic ending, she seems much alike MY, enjoying toying with people lives, and she has many and power,so she isn't accustomed to not getting what she want, power play between this two sociopathic characters will mess with lives of people around them for sure.

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Moo Young is a very interesting character. I don't think he's evil. He doesn't see to take pleasure to hurt people. And even if he has a responsability in the differents events with Seung Ah and Yoo Ri, he didn't plan everything. At the end, it was the responsability of Seung Ah and Yoo Ri too, they took decisions.

Moo Young is completely indifferent to what happens to him and to the others. Because of his past as an orphan, he clearly shut down all the emotions to protect himself. But now he met Ji Kang, she made him have feelings again. I think he's sincere with her like he didn't deny for Seung Ah or when he asked to show him to be good. I think he could become better but it will depend a lot of people around him like the evil sister or Ji Kook.

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I don't think he starts games with the intention of hurting anyone but he knows it might happen and he doesn't care.
I don't think he is indifferent to what happens to him, he is willing to risk himself, but when others hurt him he will pay them back. Remember how far he went to get back at Woo Sang. He is indifferent to what happens to others, isn't that a bit evil? He was willing to let an innocent man go to jail. It's not just about emotions, he has no morals.

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I think he's indifferent what happens to him like death or prison. He doesn't care.

How far ? He flew away with Seung Ah. It's Woo Sang who went too far. And it's Woo Sang who sent people to beat him, so why he couldn't get revenge?

For the murderer, he cleaned up the crime scene for Yoo Ri. So how could he defend the boyfriend after that? The boyfriend was nobody for him, he doesn't care about him, that's all. No evil plan behind it. He doesn't stop the arrestation but he didn't make thinks looking bad for the boyfriend neither.

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Do you think it's fine to let an innocent go to jail as long as he did not plan that?

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I don't say that Moo Young is an innocent man, I said he's not evil.

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YooRi has long history of mental health issue, is drug dependent, and was at her wits ends because of blackmail, and he gave her key code to her blackmailer home and then waited more than 20 after she called him, clearly mentally unwell from MiYeon home. He knew perfectly well what could happen and just sat and wait, that's evil. And him becoming good person, that on him not people around him. He is responsible for his decisions too, not only his victims.

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There were 2 scenes that stood out to me in this episode. 1) The convenience store convo between MY and JinKook 2) The last scene where MY said he’ll try. I loved the former’s revelations and the later’s acting.

At the convenience store JinKook revealed to us MY’s true and unprosecutable crime — stage design. Just like with SeungAh and WooSang, MY designed a stage for his game actors to destroy themselves. The 20min wait idea is much much too chilling for any normal human. The images of the 2 ladies aggressively mutilating each other’s body most likely have crossed his mind, and we are not talking mud wrestling, possibly blood wrestling. He must have enjoyed those disturbing fantasies since he didn’t stop after this pair. As MY recalls what he did (for viewers to see) he still didn’t feel ashamed or remorseful.

I didn’t think MY plead guilty because he suddenly felt responsible. I think he knew too well that YooRi will confess. If not already, she’ll definitely come after she hears the news that oppa was arrested for helping her cleanup. (This plot point correlates with the J-version when he was arrested for killing the rich fiancé and the rich girl wouldn’t and couldn’t let him take the blame so confessed to killing) So with the assurance that his allegations will be dropped eventually, he didn’t bother to put up a fight. His mind was too occupied by his answers to JinKang and how the honest answers pushed her out of his life. Here I’m afraid he learned that his whole truth cannot be carelessly told to JinKang. We will have to wait and see if he’ll go as far as lie if her companionship is at stake.

So in the last scene, when he sees how emotional JinKang feels about his badness and yet she’s still thinking about giving him a chance to change, he knew his answer can’t be “No” or “I don’t know”. He already regretted that answer when he mumbled to himself in the interrogation room. I loved this scene, especially that drumroll right before his answer, because it conveyed so much thought and emotions without much words from SIG. I totally felt MY’s hesitance to answer as straightforward as he did last time, and sensed him searching for something appropriate that is genuine but pleasing to JinKang and could really see MY’s rush to spit it out when the lightbulb turned on. To the writer’s credit, his final answer was perfect. It conveys his realized incapability to be good, his desperate desire to please her, and his true promise — I’ll try.

Even if MooYoung is true falling in love, I don’t think love will fix him. I understand why JinKang hopes he can change. She’s just like most humans who wants to change their significant other by influencing. Not saying influence has no effect, but for fully grown adults it almost never works for the outcome intended, especially when the one you try to change is aware what changes are pleasing to you. I also think the capability to love does not equate to having the capability to emphasize or having...

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...I also think the capability to love does not equate to having the capability to emphasize or having a sense of morality. In fact love can make good people kill and lie and cheat and do all sorts of objectively bad things. So although I’m touch by their willingness to bend in a direction they normally wouldn’t to close their gap, this bridge is not at all sustainable.

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Am I the only one who feels sorry for MY. He's done terrible things but life made him that way. He likes helping people like when he helped Yuri and when he helped seung ah. As it occurred to anyone that he didn't think Yuri would kill the girl when he gave her the pass code? He might have given it to her so she can sneak in and get rid of the video. There has been no proof that MY knew or saw Yuri as a potential killer. He saw her when she was trying to kill herself and helped her from then on. As for seung ah, he gave her freedom which was what she craved the most which made her happy. I'm sure he didn't plan on seung ah dying, seung ah dying wasn't his endgame it was woo sang he was after and as intelligent as he is I don't think that he could have predicted that woo sang would start drunk driving and try to kill them. Frankly I expected that woosang would have gone back to his office and hatch a plan with his secretary that was so conveniently not around to stop him from driving drunk. I really believe MY can change. The fact that seung ah's death didn't faze him made me feel sorry for him more, what could have broken him so bad. Everyone just seems pleased to have a bad guy for main lead they try to make him out into a crazy mastermind of things that just happened by other people's choices.
As for Chorong, as much as I feel bad for him, there's no denying he didn't stand a chance. I miss cute Chorong.

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I feel sorry for him, too, that the traumatic events in his younger years led him be this person. But, I also believe that whatever past a person has shouldn't serve as a convenient excuse for present day misdeeds. Inasmuch as I sympathize with MY's character, he should not get away with the injurious (even fatal) consequences of his actions. I do hope he's still salvageable though.

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I do feel sorry for his broken sense of humanity. Yet that doesn’t make his actions excusable. I hope he can change, but realistically he’s not a broken machine where someone handy can take apart and replace parts to make it work again.

I don’t think he wanted to save either Yoori or Seungah. He saw vulnerabilities and exploited it. If he cared about Yoori he wouldn’t have stopped at the convenience store. He would have reach the apartment as soon as he can to help her, if even to wrestle the handphone from that bitch. How is he so sure the bitch won’t fight Yoori back and injure Yoori? What if Yoori was the one who had her head smashed and thrown out the building? So no. He didn’t care to save her at all.

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I have to disagree with you saying MY didn't care for Yoori at all, he helped her when she was about to commit suicide, asked her about medication and sympathized with her. In fact apart from JK and HJ the only other person that MY has shown affection for is Yoori.
In my opinion MY has an habit of helping people whom he feels needs saving from other people and in his own way. Before he the accident, he told woosang that he wasn't really interested in Seung ah until he saw how woosang was treating her. He didn't manipulate woosang, he taunted him.
As for him waiting at the convenience store, I still don't think that's enough to accuse him of manipulating Yoori, all he did was give her security code, how was he to know that Yoori would kill the girl. Not disputing your opinion that he might have wanted the girl dead but I believe that might not be the case. I know he has major issues that should be worked on and I think he should get jail time because he's definitely an accomplice but I don't think he's a totally lost cause

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Right! And I tried to imagine that I hated someone with a passion but let me tell you, if someone gave me the passcode to that person's apartment and a handful of sleeping pills and 20 minutes alone with her, no way in hell would I go in and murder the person I hated. It wouldn't even cross my mind. So I agree with you very much that Moo Young should not be considered guilty of helping to murder that woman. It all depended on Yoo Ri. Even knowing that YooRi was capable of murder, still, just giving her the access to the security code is not really tipping the scales for YooRi to commit murder.... though it isn't exactly innocent either. Maybe more of a test of human nature in a very broken soul.

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Dear that’s because you’re normal. And me? I just watch too much Criminal Minds😂

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I also have much compassion for Moo Young due to his life experiences that have been revealed so far. I also believe that MY did not know exactly what the consequences of his manipulations would be and that other people also hold some responsibility. That's not a very popular view here, but these people are not puppets. There is free will and choice. Like you have said, MY does do what he believes to be good things for people, too, like getting Yu Ri to come down from the roof of the building and helping Seung Ah free herself from the restrictions of her boyfriend and her mother. It is true that many here do seem pleased to have MY be the worst possible. The thing that worries me about that is in an interview when Seo In Guk was talking about his character, he DID call MY a monster but yet I think he also said that monster wanted to be a good person. As for ChoRong, I personally do not care for him. The reason is because of the two men wanting to be with JinKang, MY seemed to relate to her on a much more personal level. To me, Cho Rong seemed way more superficial. He might be a better guy, but if the connection and interaction are weak, what good is that? It seemed he was more interested in a relationship than he was in Jin Kang. He didn't even know that Seung Ah was Jin Kang's friend!!! He picked out all those couple activities but did he consult Jin Kang in picking them out? She could just decide which of his activities to do.

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Btw, I know many of you find the "Then Teach Me" scene very compelling, well me, too. But, may I add that Jin-kang's bike scene was very lovely (Jung So-min why so damn beautiful). It captures in those few minutes the turmoil that must have been raging inside JK all this time, which ends on a somewhat bittersweet note that despite all the push and pull, the confusion, the guilt- it all will end with her wanting to see MY. She still fought well by the end of the scene, choosing to turn around and go back home (well, with MY waiting for her in front of her house LOL). BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN EPISODE 10, she may have won a battle here, but the war against those emotions was all but lost. Anyway, can't wait for Wed even if I know things are about to go downhill.

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The drama is on a slippery slope to oblivion, for those who don't bother to make sense of the romantic development in the main leads relationship at this stage.
If the writers attempt at concocking "warmth" in a pile of BS , they are certainly succeeding in attracting quite a bit of curious following.
They have gone beyond the possibility of making sense out of a character with extreme qualities of humanity and animalism. It will be very tough to pull the rabbit out of a hat without looking like a clown.

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This show has been so well-written and compelling that I couldn't stop watching. But then halfway through this episode it turned into a bad romance novel.

That conversation on the rooftop at the end was particularly terrible.

"Everyone keeps telling me you're bad but why can't I stay away?"
"I know you can be a good person"
"Order me to be good and I will"

It was really bad.

My biggest problem with it is a problem I have with a lot of Japanese stuff. And it's all wider subtext rather than this particular vehicle.

And that's the assumption that understanding why men like this do what they do is worthy of time and effort and that women's stories are entirely about whether or not they should love them.

Her arc becomes ' will she choose the nice safe cop or follow her heart to the complicated man'?

And that whole conversation at the end framed her decision as a kind of rebellion against her family and society rather than an active decision.

Also, that whole "you're a bad guy but I'll be with you if you promise to stop that now" is a textbook starting point for domestic violence.

This is the first time this show has lost me and as usual it's around the "romance".

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Great comments Dame Judi. I love slow burn, damaged souls dramas, but I had not realized that some of these are just as you describe: tortured soul ML with a story but with understanding love as the driving arc for the FL dominating any story of their own. Possibly one of my favorites RAIN OR SHINE falls into this category, given that the FL Won Jin-A has an interesting back story but the drama became “men like this do what they do is worthy of time and effort and that women's stories are entirely about …” (my substitution) their choice and support of their men.

After thinking about your comments I especially appreciate my favorite tortured-soul dramas that provide more balanced stories: Lee Sun Kyun and IU in MY MISTER [2018], Kim Ji Won and Son Suk Ku in MY LIBERATION NOTES [2022] - both dramas well represented in Baeksang Awards.

But we have not yet seen Jin Kang’s back story. There is still much time to fill. Possibly with JK having to deal with other traumas, we might get more story arc for her beyond her love choice.

Back my reply to teachermok18 above about antiheroes, we can compare our Moo Young to FL Song Hye Kyo in THE GLORY [2023 Baeksang Best Actress]. Like Moo Young, she is driven by past trauma, and she strategizes her dark behavior as if she is playing a game (baduk). In Glory the male supporting character Lee Do Hyun has an interesting back story but his story arc becomes his love choice for the FL.

Perhaps if there were more dramas centered on their FLs with worthy stories beyond just obsessing about their man, we would happily be willing to sign onto those in which only the MLs have stories beyond their love for the FLs. Or maybe my favorites are favorites because both leads get worthy stories -- 16 episodes are plenty of time to develop both.

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