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Open Thread #579

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Hi Everyone and Happy OT. I hope all who celebrate Thanksgiving had a warm, meaningful and thanks-filled time!

Now for a complaint!

The Smile Has Left Your Eyes - So the smile was supposed to slip and the stars to fall. We've had our Ep 16, and I for one am not OK with the way the slipping and falling happened.

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I re-read the comments we made in Ep 12 when many Beanies had started expecting a tragic end. Beanies were ok with the idea of a double suicide, double murder or someone killing and dying, but these were meant to be between Jin Gook, Jin Kang and Moo Young. It would have been 'sort of' fine if any of them had done the killing/dying … even the horrible Se Ran as killer might have been somewhat acceptable. (However Se Ran would have been more likely to have manipulated one of the protagonists to do the killing while she watched).

So when the shooting took place by not any of these bigger players, but by the stone-faced Secretary (do we even know his name? I tried to find him on Asiawiki, Wikipedia … did not succeed) who was not even a side character, who had only appeared for a total of less than 10 minutes in the entire series, … it felt totally wrong. For one thing, since it's likely Se Ran would have wanted the main protagonists to off themselves, she wouldn't have ordered Secretary to kill them. I feel he exceeded his instructions.

And it was at a time when the turnaround was looking possible, when after all, all obstacles except imprisonment were melting away. When hope had re-emerged and things were looking up and there was no reason for not being hopeful.

Then it happened.

So because it happened at this time and by that 'person', it Was. So. Wrong.

I felt it was a great misstep in the show. It had been a great show, great music, great acting, appropriate lighting and cinematography, few plot holes, flawed characters that had grown on us and a story that was revealing enough to be making sense … until those 5 minutes. That was such a pity. 😏

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I know exactly how You feel, it felt like a cheating on the writers part. It has no impact, at least for me, like we have all various plots neatly tied up and then bam, someone remembered that there need to be sad ending. Cheaters!!!
P.S. That guy name was Secretary Choi if I remember correctly and it was heavily implied that Se Ran father ordered hit on MY (Evil cheabols are such a cheap cope out imho).

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'Cheating' is a good word to describe the situation, @shach It was a total cop out. Do it as tragedy, I say, and do it properly all the way with the most significant people killing or dying for the most significant (to them) reasons.

Not this way ... as if the director suddenly remembered: "Oh no, we can't have hope. Those 2 have gotta die ... how to engineer it? Oh yeah, there's still the Secretary who's running loose. Let's just use him."

The music spoke of Tragedy over and over. It would have been such a great Tragedy but instead we have a traversty of a tragedy. Or it could have gone all the way in twisting it to become a Healing Drama - it would/could have hit new heights in inspiring us viewers with it's awesome writing. And it was on it's way to being healing: Yoo Ri was on the mend, JG was admitting everything and coming clean, Se Ran was gone and our OTP were healing each other. But no, it had to be a limp-ending tragedy. 😒

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I’m actually waiting for the final recap of The Smile Has Left Your Eyes (I’d rather stick with this title because it’s no way near the intensity of the original version) but like other Beanies here, I can’t help but blurt out my “what the ef just happened?” to the Finale?
I was so prepared for a mental and emotional breakdown...but it good lawrd! I felt as if i know someone’s preaparing a birthday surprise party for me and come my special day, i reckon, the surprise was having a-no-surprise-party at all! Man, do i feel betrayed.
The month long prep for a tragic ending went down the drain.

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Welcome to the club of the betrayed, @Betrayed! 😂

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I was hoping that if they decided to go dark, might as well go all the way. I would've been happier if they stuck with the original plot, if only so I could admire their bravery. But they got cold feet didn't they?
Also I agree regarding the last 5 minutes. Just when hope was visible on the horizon, they had to do that. A happy ending seemed impossible, but I rather they maintained the tone throughout the episode instead of sliiiiiightly raising our hopes before crushing them.

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@superwhopotterlock I guess the original had incest, didn't it? So it would have been darker in that way, but then all the dying would have made more sense. Then yes, there could have been bravery, fortitude, temperance, and a plethora of virtues that might have been practised. So much to admire. What a waste!

The slightly raising our hopes and then suddenly crushing them, felt like they were playing the audience this time. Not only was Se Ran playing her game and got herself shot, the PD too was playing a game on us and he has shot himself in the foot!

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@growingbeautifully
Yes the j version went all the way. That's why I was hoping that they stick to it here as well, seeing that it was headed for tragedy. There were plenty of reasons where the main characters could've done the deed themselves, either due to guilt or horrified at what they had done, or even accidentally during confrontation!

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@superwhopotterlock So true! How much better that would have been, even if they had done it to themselves 'accidentally'. It would have been acceptable.

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but that defeats the recurring central theme of karma coming back.. everyone is linked.. one who killed, lost sthg..

KMY killed siblings.. karma bites back

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I actually wanted the incest AND wanted them to change the ending order of killing. The original nullified the love she had for him.

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@geliguolu SPH_7
What was the killing order - who died first and how?

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ofcourse the hero died first

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When I watched the ending, I felt empty and detached....To sum it up, I felt cheated..

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@safeenah Yup, that 'cheated' word again. One of the worse things any show can do is to lose the goodwill of its viewers, and that's what this one has done, because we feel played and deceived by that ending.

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I wasn't even sad and that's to say a lot..

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Come to think of it, neither was I. I thought I'd wrung myself out last Friday over Ep 14, but maybe Ep 16 just left me too cold.

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Well it's over and done with.. dusted and gone as I so won't be rewatching it..

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i loved SIG's acting but i have to vote all the way for the J version. being let down like that ruins my day.

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I am sad they couldn't come up with the better plot. Introducing Chaebol lady was so out of blue. However I am ok with the tragic ending (They died together), and liked it better than J-version.

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with all those flashbacks, it's as if the writer left the script unfinished and walked away...
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i wish they had stuck to the original script, the whole impact of the drama was in the twists and dark tragedy.

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@spazmo Yes, come to think of it ... Jin Kang was just getting her flashbacks ... suddenly recognising her own presence on that mountain and her ties with young Moo Young. A Romeo and Juliet ending more than some other, was called for.

Precisely, no impact at all. After all the build up and preparation for an epic end, without ever a need to introduce that twist ... they did and it fell flat.

We should have been left weeping uncontrollably, but all I feel is annoyed.

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it's interesting, before the finale tvn said the ending would be that "love would save people" but they didn't comment on the Japanese ending. I guess by save they didn't actually mean survive.

I do mostly agree with your sentiments. The death of both seemed a bit left-field. I wish someone important had killed them or they killed each other ot themselves. Evil Secretary is not important enough to be given such an honour lol.

If he didn't kill them how would the show have ended? I was sure that after ep 15 there was no way there could be a happy ending for a murderer.

If only Moo-young hadn't killed Se-ran because he thought Jin-kang was his sister... ☹☹☹

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@shittyhunter Based on the characters' personalities,... I'm thinking that what would have played out is JK successfully persuading MY to turn himself in with the promise of waiting for him. If he didn't die in prison and if JG did not interfere over all the parental murders that had taken place, then the ending that is not tragic would have been possible.

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They could have ended It differently but They didnt💔Now that is Only left are what ifs and it wont change the ending at all😭

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Given that after MY killed Se Ran there was no possibility of a happy ending, I think having Jin Kang and Moo Young be killed by a third party was the only way to make the ending satisfying. I don't think it was lazy or "cheating" on the writers' part; rather it preserved the essential strength and goodness of MY and JK. They had both just affirmed life, their desires to live. And that was enough for me. They remained true, MY preserved his internal growth, both their shells had been cracked open in their last encounter and like MY said about himself regarding his final exchange with Se Ran, "I was my most human--but at that point I became a murderer." His last exchange w JK allowed him to be that human again--without being a murderer.

Had either of them killed him- or herself and/or the other--even in a death pact--they would be taking the easy way out, the lazy way out. They would be cheating themselves. Yet they had to die--and die together in each other's arms--for the drama to come full circle, back to the moments in their childhood when MY protected JK and later as adults when JK protected MY from himself and brought him into life and light.

As opposed to the ending of Misty (another adult drama that you knew couldn't end well), which devastated me and left me feeling empty and truly, horribly cheated, this ending left me feeling whole--sad, of course, but somehow whole and satisfied.

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I would have been pissed if they were the ones to off themselves or each other. There was no way I could see either being ok with the other dying and I am glad the drama thought so too.

The Secretary doing the killing seemed appropriate in my eyes as consequences of all the manipulation and games being played. He was the lackey for his employers from the beginning. They were the ones who eventually called for Mooyoungs murder. MY was involved with the chairman's son's death and then killed the daughter, what else was there to do but kill MY and have them kill JK too (she was the reason MY killed Seran anyway). Frame it with finding out their identities and murdering each other. And done.

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People keep asking me why I watch so many Korean dramas. When I tell them that I like the stories, that I liked stories to end, they often tell me what non-Korean (actually, non-Asian) dramas I should watch instead with great storylines. Because these are my friends, I did follow one person’s recommendation the other day. It was a drama set in (I think) the 15th century, there was a murder and possibly quite a good plot. Only, I never got that far. I watched about 10 minutes of the first episode and gave up.

Within the first ten minutes of this drama, there was an almost naked woman explaining the background of the plot. I’ve got no problems with nudity on my screen, but this one was particularly grating for a number of reasons. First of all, the show thought they could get away with boring exposition as long as it was told by a naked woman. Secondly, all the men around her were fully dressed and finally, there was no reason for her to be naked. She could have worn clothes – as all the men were.

Sure, kdramas have half-naked men taking a shower whilst being angsty and that can be seen as gratuitous fan service, but there was something very uncomfortable about this particular scene. Of course I wouldn’t argue that the depiction of women in Korean dramas is perfect. Far from it. Too often the female characters get demoted from being an important character in their own right, to just being there for the male character’s character growth. They’re just there to be pretty but don't do anything – like pot plants (thanks @ChinguMode for that one). But at least there’s no uncomfortable nudity.

When I told my friend that I dropped the drama because of that scene, he said that it was probably historically accurate that this character was naked, as she was a prostitute. I pointed out that if it had been historically accurate, she should have had more body hair.

Maybe I'll have to accept that I’m not just watching Korean dramas because I prefer the stories…

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I am with you on this. Reminds me of how I felt when watching Supernatural. Apart from the very obvious white, male, christian vibe to the show that I was not emphasizing with, I had a hard time with the kissing scenes.

Now, don't get me wrong, I will squeal harder than anyone when two leads kiss. I love a good kissing scene with the appropriate build-up. After 8 hours of will-they-wont-they, a kissing scene feels rewarding. A random stanger kissing one of our lead in Supernatural after meeting her 15 mins ago and for absolutely no reason doesn't. It left me cold.

And this is one of the main reason I watch K-dramas.

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I didn't watch supernatural, and I don't mean to start any argument, but I'm just so tired of hearing this overused and meaningless "white , male, Christian". I am a "white, female, Christian", do I have to apologize for that? What is offensive about what I am? I actually wish more shows had more Christian vibes, then they would be more realistic and conservative. One of the main reasons I like kdramas, is because they reflect a lot of Christian values (more conservative), even if they are not aiming to do so.

Anyways I highly doubt that Hollywood produced anything christian, as hollywood is notoriously liberal. They pretend they are feminists (by words only), but their portrayals of women are horrid and insulting to any intelligent woman. I would much rather take the female characters of kdramas, because they are a lot more realistic (in actions and reactions) and multidimensional, and not hyper-sexualized and vapid (as many female characters in hollywood are, unfortunately).

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@sweetsour I agree with you. It’s for that reason I hardly watch Hollywood productions.

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Supernatural has a lot of Christian elements such as God, Cain Brothers, angels, satan and not only as themes in the show but as actual characters in the show.

That's what I meant by a Christian vibe. It definitely doesn't have any Christian values though.

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lol..watch pakistani serials then.. 24 hrs for a hand holding.. and stories are usually novel adaptations.. so 'm sure it would surpass what kdramas are giving you

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Yup @luzitania and @cloggie
Avoiding gratuitous kissing scenes and lack of decorum, not to mention clothing, are some of the reasons that Western shows no longer interest me. Some may have a good storyline but spoil it with these kinds of scenes peppering it unnecessarily. I end up not watching.

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Add to that the fact that the actress might not have known she had to play the part naked until she turned up on set that morning and was told by the director, as unfortunately happens more often than you'd think, and it all becomes rather unpleasant.

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Oh dear! I thought the script at least mentioned a little bit of the setting in which the role was to be acted, if not the actual 'dress' of the character.

I've seen a couple of pages of scripts before. I know they don't have much detail, but still, it should have given people choosing to do the role some clue as to what was required.

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I agree. I have such a hard time watching certain western shows nowadays for the same reasons. At first, I found the «conservativeness» in korean dramas to be refreshing and interesting.... and it slowly developed into being *my* norm. (incidentally, when kdramas show me TOO much gratuitous fan service i get instantly turned off (i'm looking at you WWWSK, sorry)

I'm ashamed to admit that I never used to notice how badly women were treated on screen. It was this initiation to more «conservativeness» that I realized that women should NOT be treated that way. equal rights. (again, like you, im not saying korea is perfect either). I'm glad DB is a safe place for Beanies to help me learn and realize injustices that i'd have never noticed before.

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Hi @cloggie. Count me in. For what it's worth after watching HEALER in 2016 I went down the rabbit hole into the world of kdramas and I have never come out. Friends and family can mention American television shows and I have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

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Me neither. And a lot of it is for the same reasons as cloggie's

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This rabbit hole you speak of. I can't help wondering how many families have lost members in this way for the exact reasons @cloggie has stated. Mine included.

I remember walking into the lounge one day to attempt a programme Hubby and I used to enjoy before I left for Kdramaland. I sat down and said something like, 'Oh, I haven't seen this in a while, they're always talking who's sleeping around with whom, ad nauseam.' They must have heard me because the entire scene was literally me watching them outdo one another in discussing said subject! I was out of there within two minutes.

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Hi @dramafan12 RevSparklyAndroid. Right! The one thing that drives me crazy about kdrama bedroom scenes is how often people go to sleep with the lights ON! I am always saying to myself, "hey, please shut off the lights". LOL.

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I have nothing against nekkid bodies or even sex scenes. My problem is that far too often they add nothing to the story at all - most just seem to be there for shock value and to get attention.

But another reason I watch so few American shows and movies that they far too often are nothing but super hero, CGI to the max action fests with little or no real plot. Crazy Rich Asians was one of the few exceptions, but frankly I am really tired of crap like Transformers #27, Black Panther, and the like. Every single one has the same old hackneyed plot with interchangeable puppet characters.

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I would add that most recent Chinese movies are very much like the 2nd part of my previous post. Mainly due to the ever increasing censorship in China since around 2014.

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I atually have different psychological pov.
I can watch nude+smooch+raunchy hollywood movies scenes without any feelings. Same goes for porn. Your mind is already prepared for the content and you feel no attachment towards any of them.
Now - enters a cute romcom rom-drama where hero-heroine acts like too innocent-pure beings. When they initiate kiss scene either i feel nothing or even -ve. If kiss scene turns into smooch scene then i completely go -ve.
Its all about perception and the mindset you get into when you watch various scenarios.

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@cloggie, your story made me giggle with recognition of when I quit Game of Thrones after the scene in Ep 2 or 3 when a male character went on at very great length explaining his background, establishing his character while two fully naked women went at it pretty full bore on a bed behind him. Ostensibly, one woman was "auditioning" to become a worker in the man's whorehouse, that part was the logical part. The need for him to detail his life motivations aloud while not even judging her work performance was what was ridiculous and insulting to the audience. Every male friend I mentioned this to as a complaint did not understand what I meant. It hadn't occurred to them that there was anything out of place in that scene.

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Basically these are the two main reasons of why I watch kdramas and both are equally important. Plus I don't even encourage that mindset in kdramas to go ott. Perhaps K2 had a shower scene with all men where they wore what transparent stuff or were completely bare but that's when I dropped it. Either its men or women, I just don't like the objectification of people in films or dramas when it exists to entertain. But yes people do consider this entertainment too and unfortunately its not leaving the industry anytime soon because its taught to young filmmakers too. However, no one in my vicinity would get either of these points. Because rather than explicit scenes and shorter length-ending stories what they don't understand is why I keep watching dramas in a language I don't know of.

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Recently rediscovered Ha Jungwoo.

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I have only seen Ha Jung-woo in 2 films. He gave a terrific performance as Prosecutor Choi Hwan in the powerful film 1987: WHEN THE DAY COMES.

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Does anyone have any leads on subs for Top Star Yoo Baek? I was so looking forward to this drama and am dying to watch it. Ugh. Luckily there are a lot of just premiered/about to premiere dramas that are on my radar. Hopefully subs for Yoo Baek will pop up soon.

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I hope it gets subbed too....

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I check a few times a week and still nothing.

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Indo subs are out for Top star and soft subs are also up in subscene. Jeon somin fans are trying to sub it into English but they could be one or two weeks late. like from Indo subs to Eng subs. I wish DB will translate it. It is also getting much attention in Korea as it was trending for days in Korea after the premiere.

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Hi Everyone! I hope you are all doing well today!

To all the Beanies who celebrated Thanksgiving yesterday, I hope you enjoyed a wonderful holiday. ...... If you're brave enough to participate in all the Black Friday pandemonium, I wish you all the best with your shopping endeavors!

Matrimonial Chaos - What a set of fantastic episodes this week. They were heartbreaking and funny and everything in between. ..... Actor Sohn Suk-goo was particularly outstanding this week playing Jang-hyun. He delivers his lines and you just feel his life-long pain.

My Secret Terrius - Finally got around to the last episode. *sadface* I'm going to miss this fun watch and all the fun characters.

Happy To Die - I'm really liking how they're incorporating the time loop situation without making it seem repetitive, which could very easily happen with this set up.

Room No. 9 - I'm saddened that again this week I didn't get to this show. I'm woefully behind with no idea when I'll get back to it. I wish this wasn't the case though because I really want to know what happens!

That's all for now. Everyone take care and have a great Friday!

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I enjoy matrimonial chaos....many times I agree with suk moo....I feel kind of weird that I like his thoughts..

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Happy Friday @korfan! Matrimonial Chaos continues to be my favorite right now.

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I took a peak at Matrimonial Chaos and it looks amazing. I'm saving for Christmas break.

This week I tried a taste of Happy to Die. That show is bonkers and just my cup of tea! The twist on the "Groundhog Day" scenario is clever and I enjoy a redemption story.

As much as I adore the two sweet, charming leads of Fluttering Alert (that show's my vitamin!) I definitely see the appeal of the not-completely asshole-ish lead of Happy to Die. From the chatter on s**mpi, it seems that the drama adaptation of the original webtoon made a Baek Jin-Sang a more attractive character.

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@korfan, I hope you can catch up with ROOM NO. 9. Things are happening now. I cannot predict the outcome at this point.

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I was in need of a C-Drama and @bebeswtz recommended Our Glamorous Time based on the reviews it has been receiving. I watched the first episode and it was borderline bad. In my experience, C-Dramas tend to get a higher review average compared to K-Dramas, a grading curve if you will. I kept watching and so far I'm glad I did. The writing is really good and refreshing. Most things make sense and the characters mostly act in a credible manner. There are a few things though that are infuriating, but it's all good.

One of the more interesting aspects of the drama is the male lead. I'm not gonna lie. I tend to be very superficial at first when it comes to male leads. Kim Jin isn't exactly you typical handsome male lead. He's more your support character who is a body guard or something like that type. Thankfully, two things work in his favor. He's not a bad actor--he's really good in the fight scenes too--and because the script has a more realistic aspect to it and is pretty solid, it helps with the not everyone is a 10 in real life kinda thing.

The story also gives the antagonists a good bit of screen time which helps flesh out the characters and their motivations--although a lot of the latter is still unclear. Much like life, there is a lot of "grey" in this drama.

Best of all, it's not all about romance. This is where the main characters really shine so far. The female lead designer is motivated, does research, put in the hours, the whole 9 yards. The male lead has to find the money and the wherewithal to make the designs into a reality and keep the business afloat. The business side of the storyline has been done really well imho. Just because a company wins a bid does not mean that they're all of a sudden doing ok. You have to be able to execute and take on other projects, adapt etc.

I'm currently on ep 17 and its a 50 ep drama. There is a lot of room for things to go downhill in typical C-Drama fashion. I'm hoping that's not the case. C-Dramas can surprise you. I'm hoping that this one does and in a good way.

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I'm watching this one as well. It's really good once you get past the explosive/chaotic first episode. I also like that the good and bad guys are mostly evenly matched. It's still overly dramatic from time to time but not unbearable. I'm also quite curious about the lead's brother's death, especially since, as you've said, the main 'villains' are looking less and less capable of murder...

On a slightly insignificant note, the name 'Grace' really stands out whenever it's mentioned by the characters. It's like they all have to enunciate. Made me smile.

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The first episode is rather bad. What episode are you on?

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I'm up to date on the subbed episodes. I liked the FL in Boss and Me, which I watched many months ago, which is why I chose to stick around after episode one and it's paid off so far.

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I'm loving Zanilia Zhao here. She's a very talented actress to be sure.

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You’re welcome?? 😅😅😅😅

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If this drama goes off the rails, my tone might change. Just saying. 🙃

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Hahaha I totally know what you mean 😅😅

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When I'm going to watch Cdrama, I usually find out the ending first. I hate spend 50 hours or so of my time and get a crappy sad ending. The problem is with cdramas, the beginning is usually good.. and you got the mid part when it starts to drag, and the writer seems forget whats going on and then we get a sad or open ending. I learned my lesson from so many times watching cdramas and finally decide to just find out the ending first. Well..at least I find out the ending from people comment, and not like my friend who starts watching from the last 5 mins of the final episode..lol.

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Ah, I feel your pain. Do you avoid watching C-dramas live then?

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I always wait until the drama is finished airing and fully subbed. Especially with Cdramas, sometimes the subber decides to quit in the middle, so it's just better to wait.

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Smart.

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I understand your pain, but I hate spoilers, so I wouldn't do that. Long C-Dramas tend to adhere to the same formula which can get very frustrating. What's even more frustrating is me expecting something different each time. On the rare occasion I am surprised though like Ashes of Love--which I need to finish--A Love So Beautiful and Love O2O. Kinda sad that there's only those few that I can reference.

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If you like love o2o, I would like to recommend you to watch Boss & Me (Shan shan comes to eat). Both came from the same novelist. I watched love o2o in 2016 and rewatched it a week ago on Netflix. I just realized I don't like it as much as I was two yrs ago. After love o2o, I rewatched B&M (after 4 yrs), and for this one.. I still love it.

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Same on Love O2O, but it's still one of the better C-Dramas. I think my high regard for it comes from the fact that it doesn't do they typical drama crap that tends to annoy me so it gets more praise than it should because of that.

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Will check out Boss & Me

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Yep. I second the Boss and Me recommendation. I've even rewatched bits of the OTP scenes. They're good.

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This is my problem with c-dramas. The endings always suck. Not to mention the editing is horrible. The only one that ended well and didn't end an episode almost in the middle of a scene was Love O2O.

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I have become pretty much an anti-fan of recent Chinese movies, but I might make an exception for this one and give it a try. So many are just totally superficial that I mostly gave up.

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Have you seen A Love So Beautiful?

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Do you follow AvenueX's YouTube channel? She worked in the industry and has marvelous insights into the world of C-dramas.

At one point, even she expressed exasperation with super-long episode counts and was encouraged by shorter excellent dramas like the 2017 12-part Burning Ice.

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Nope. Never heard of her. (Runs off to look at a video or two). She's savage--in a good way! I think because she worked in the industry some of what might annoy her might not annoy me and if it does, not as much. Thx for the resource! I'll definitely be checking in on her stuff.

50 episodes is long if the drama sucks. It could be long if it doesn't suck, but it's no where as bad as if it sucks or if it starts off good and then goes on to suck. Either way I would drop it or FFW like crazy.

This might sound bad of me but, I don't go looking for C-Dramas to find an award winning one. I want something that ticks my catnip boxes. So while I may check out a drama like Burning Ice, if I didn't have a C-Drama to watch, and only read the synopsis, I might pass it over. Now that I know that it comes highly recommended, I might check it out.

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I hear what you're saying. I work in Public Media and my colleagues and I all consume a wide variety of content. I've got my catnip boxes too and often, a show's worst sin is being boring or uncommitted.

I'm currently at Ep. 20 (out of 36) of Bloody Romance. The bootleg subs finished months ago but I needed a break from the emotional intensity. Also wanted to wait for higher quality video that Viki provides but the subbing is glacially slow.

An aside: Many of the C-dramas I've finished have only one or two OSTs. By the end, I find myself either living for those songs or hating them with every fiber of my being.😄

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I only ever notice the usually awful BGM in C-Dramas. Rarely do I ever notice the OST. I rarely if ever watch OPs and EDs because they usually have too many spoilers.

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Viki should be sued for incomplete subs, especially those that are months/years old. What am I paying for again? I'm going batshit crazy waiting for ep 19 of this drama to move from 52%. I'm giving them a pass this time round because it's Thanksgiving weekend.

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Public Media you say!? Would you mind elaborating on your job, what you do?

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@hades I also usually start about 2-2:30 mins in and drop out once that still shot appears just before the ending OST.
Doing that made me realise each CDrama episode is only about 40 mins long (and that excludes those prolific flashbacks 🤦🤦).

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I just watched two episodes of Red Moon, Blue Sun/Children of Nobody and I'm positively surprised and already hooked up. Storyline seems really intriguing, actors are good, some familiar faces in the background (Eunha from King Castle, and Candy whom I'm mistaken for Yuri from MSFTS).

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Good to hear! I hope to start this drama this weekend.

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I too was surprised. And it makes me even more wary of the generic descriptions for many shows. Almost impossible to tell what genre shows actually fall into without watching. Red Moon seems to be full of mysteries within mysteries.

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On to a different tack. Some shows are just rather bad. So bad they are funny. I skip watch and roll my eyes and shake my head, but I'm actually enjoying how bad it is. I end up laughing even when there's nothing comedic. I'm talking about Fluttering Alert/Love Warning or the title I like best Tingling Advisory.

I'm wondering if Yoon Eun Hye and Chun Jung Myung are also 'hamming it up' to a very slight degree, in full knowledge of how adolescently directed and produced the show looks. Several times I've been noticing their OTT expressions and 'obvious' acting. They (and Han Go Eun and Jeong Gye Su) are however much, much better than practically all the rest of the cast.

From poster, to dialogue, to editing, to music, to lighting, to the look of the sets, I've been wondering if it's been done on purpose, this gauche, unpolished, clumsily handled, uneven everything of the show.

I'm watching, hoping to be able to say that at least the chemistry is great and the romance is sweet … but well, at least the leads are fun to watch? And they seem to be enjoying themselves? The one who really looks good all the time is President Han. Her styling is so much better than Yoo Jung's! Someone should advise against sparkly under-eye liner.

I don't know if I want this show to edit out all the chaebol scenes and the awkward side characters and just compress it into a 6 episode mini-series. But whatever, I will just watch it and laugh inappropriately. 😆

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I was also admiring President Han's styling; She looked more like a "Top Star" than our female lead. Some of the scenes were really cringe-worthy and I felt so bad for the actors!

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@aafa83 I was watching the main actors, and I had the impression that they were accepting of what they had to do. They seem to have taken into their stride the kind of show it's turning out to be, and have decided to do their best to carry it forward til the end, like true soldiers but with a sense of fun. I was thinking they were amused by the cringe-worthiness themselves. 😉

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yes let's just enjoy them enjoying it in spite of the bad things. it is still fun to watch with a pinch or two of salt!

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I second your admiration for CEO Han's styling. Actress Han Go-Eun (who shares her character's last name) is an elegant woman. I first saw her as the frosty ex-wife in Should We Kiss First?. I haven't seen her other roles and wonder if her beauty has relegated her to a lot of "stone-cold bitch" roles. Nice to see her play a savvy but warm-hearted CEO.

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Guess the drama question Japanese edition: Have you ever heard of drama/book about group of murderers released from prison into abandoned town/village. I read about it in local literary magazine so it's possible that's an adaptation, but forgot to take write it down before discarding the mag. It's keep pestering me, because plot seems interesting.

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If it's a book, you can try this link about how to find a book when your forgot the title: https://www.nypl.org/blog/2017/11/22/finding-book-forgotten-title
I didn't watch enough j-drama to help you, hopefully the beanies community will come to the rescue.
Good luck!

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I tried Google variation of the plot keywords but since it's Japanese drama/book I didn't get any useful hits unfortunately :(

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Why does this sound familiar...

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The problem is your provided story's variants can easily be found in various manga, light novels and novels. You won't be able to find it unless you remember any other clue.

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There isn't unfortunately any more, it's was just short blurb. Group of convinced murderers (men and women) are released into abandoned town/village. And for sure that supposed to be drama, because there was picture of the two actors. I assumed that it must be an adaptation, because it was magazine about books. That is it. Could You possible name few?

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Battle Royale was based on a novel but they weren’t convicts released from prison, they were students sent to an island to kill each other off. Last one alive gets to leave the island. So not what you described but your description made me think of it.

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It does sound familiar, but only very vague recollection and never actually watched it, just recall the description. I think.. no sure.. that it was a Japanese movie.

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Oooh we're getting close? I'm also sure I heard this plot before but for a Japanese movie too--not a drama. And that it (may have been) adapted from a novel.

That or it was a "fictional" movie that someone referred to inside another show.

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Happy Friday and Happy Thanksgiving to all beanies!

So many things happened over the past month -the passing of a loved one and all the things that I have to settle in the aftermath, the surprise result of my son's big exam and I am off to two week holiday in a few days.

All this while, I didn't watch a single kdrama. The slump is real. I finished C drama - Ashes of Love. Barely. The mopey second half bored me so. Then I watched an English drama - my first in a decade or more? Before kdramas, I watched American, British shows and my local tv. So, it's quite strange but the Bodyguard is an excellent choice - gripping and short. It's only 6 eps. What a world of difference from C dramas! If only they can cut down, I think many dramas would benefit from it.

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So sorry for your loss... Hope you are slowly healing.

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Thank you. I think I haven't really grasp the entire thing. It's strange that there are so many mundane yet necessary matters that one has to attend to. I'll take my time.

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My sympathies @outofthisworld. Yes, it's a good idea to take your time to let the full reality sink in and to deal with each thing one at a time. I hope you have enough rest as well.

Actually, it could be a good thing to be in a slump. You can opt for more sleep.

I also like to diversify once in a while. Catch a British show or a movie. It helps give more perspective to the kdramas that go on in their own way.

Have a great weekend! 😃

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Thank you. I don't know about resting though. There'll be a lot of pre-dawn waking up for this coming trip. I think I will sleep like the animals -rise early to look for food and sleep when the sun is at its highest, LOL.

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I'm so sorry for your loss.....

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I'm so sorry. I hope that you find peace as you settle the estate.

I hope the surprise exam result was a pleasant one. Wishing you safe travels and rest on your trip.

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Thank you. The result was a very pleasant surprise. He had been messed up some parts and was anxious about it.

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I am sorry to hear about your loss. I hope that you can give yourself the time and outlets to heal properly. I wish you good luck with everything life throws at you now. Stand your ground, you got this.

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I started Bodyguard but didn't finish it. I finished the "bomb" episode and stopped. It was...intense. I really liked the beginning but I fell off.

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Happy Friday everybody! Hope everyone's going into the weekend full of hope and good vibes only.
I'm gonna do nothing (again) and just rest up. Work's been crazy, plus there's this (sort of) community thing I'm helping with so time has not been mine these past couple of weeks.
Yesterday, after finally finishing work, I tried watching The Empress' Dignity and... was disappointed. It's.. just not good. And I keep watching Mama Fairy! 🙄 That's saying something. Didn't even finish the first episode. Has anyone else tried it?

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I was going to try The Empress' Dignity so this doesn't bode well for getting out of my slump.

About Mama Fairy, you said you keep watching but haven't finish the first episode? Eh...so do you like it or not?

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Nope, I didn't finish the first episode of Empress' Dignity. I'm up to date with Mama Fairy...

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@captblackdog I can only take Mama Fairy in small doses. I either literally fall asleep or get fed up and do something else in between. It fails to draw me into it's fairy world. I am not enchanted although I want to be. It needs a plot that includes more than 'is he or isn't he the husband', more magic and much more for our characters to do besides making and drinking coffee. I'd even root for the sub-plots to give the main plotline a run for its money - if only the fairy actors could just get out of their slap-sticky look and style and do more 'real' magic.

I'd have liked for the show to have gone for whimsically charming, failing which, to have then gone for OTT ridiculous. It's not the first and only partly the second, with too little for the main characters to do. I'd have thought that by these last episodes I'd have gotten on board and liked our characters, but it's not happening for me.

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I gave up on Fairy about half way through the 3rd episode. Like it was written and directed for people with a negative IQ and just plain boring.

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Honestly, after draining my brain day after day, I need some IQ diminishing content. 🙄

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LOL @captblackdog I'm glad this show is good for something!!

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There are a few things I keep watching it for – namely Geum, the Tiger Daughter (don't remember the name) and the Bashful Grandma. I skip the three goonies. It ain't a good drama, yet I still keep coming back each week.

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@captblackdog Your name tells me you're into "Suspicious Partner". How do you find that show?

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Yeah, I'm watching it (more than halfway through now). I loved the beginning and I still quite like it, although it had some noble idiocy for a short while.

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Glad I'm not the only one disappointed with "Empress"! I thought Jang Nara's character was such a doormat that I just couldn't stand it. If the writers don't improve her character, I'll have to drop it even though I like Choi Jin-hyuk. Also there are so many plot holes....

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For some reason I thought The Last Empress was going to have some finesse but basically it's just typical weekend makjang but now on primetime. The whole thing was pretty eye roll inducing imo, the pacing was awful, poor directing. I mean, it's definitely not boring most of the time (I like Jang Nara, but whenever she's onscreen, I zoned out) but I found it just too ridiculous. They honestly don't seem like the royal family at all, but like typical chaebols.

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I managed to make it through the first two episodes today, and it is now off of my watch list.

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Very well said! I think you managed to pinpoint what's been bothering me about the show.

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It's crazy how bad it is and mind-boggling how they were able to cast such talent.

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Hi all! The other day I finished my first drama "A love so beautiful" I loved it, so you can recommend me others that I should see,please.

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C-dramas

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"Suddenly, This Summer"! I recommended this awhile back because it's so underrated and wished more people would see this gem. It's ONLY 30 ep (short for a C-drama) and NO dubbing. The female lead is not conventional drama beautiful but a darn good actress! Story was very realistic about 2 people's growth from high school + 10 yrs. Hope you check it out.

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I will definitely see it, thank you very much.♡

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You started with the best one... honestly I haven't seen a C-Drama that I enjoyed as much as ALSB.. I did recently watch a movie that was enjoyable, Finding Mr.Right (2013), give it a shot.
There's also, LoveO2O (you have to excuse the actress her dead-fish kissing style) and Accidentally in love (I fast forwarded through a lot of scenes but the OTP is super cute). Happy viewing!

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Finding Mr. Right is one of the very few really good C-dramas. It is on NetFlix also.

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Thank you! I put it on my list.

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Among C-Dramas I would recommend Love O2O (on Netflix) and My Amazing Boyfriend. They are both fun and light but the first one is definetly my favorite among the chinese shows I've watched.

Other shows I would recommend because they are adorable: Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo, Something About 1 Percent and Sassy Go Go.

Shows I would recommend because they are just awesome but in a slightly different way than ALSB: Healer (Watch it if you haven't yet. I've never met someone who didn't like this show.), Reply 1988 and Descendants of the Sun.

These are all gateway-drug dramas so beware...

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Thank you! ♡

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You started with the best C-drama out there. I also really liked a quirky little C-movie I found on Netflix called "This is not what I expected." It charmed me and I liked it's movie length verses the long drawn out C-dramas.

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I second this little movie as well. It has the same guy that was the lead in 'House of Flying Daggers.' And A Love So Beautiful. I wrote an essay after I finished that one, definitely my favorite C-drama.

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Well I have a pretty good list now, thanks!

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CHUGAKUSEI NIKKI

Watch out its mydramalist page.

Arimura kasumi is facing criticism for the role whereas
male Okada Kenshi is getting too much popularity.

@Sancheezy and those who watch Anime or read manga and Light Novels - OREGAIRU volume 13 has been released and its going ahead strong for volume 14 drama action.

I'm sharing one of its quote here

“I hate nice girls.
Just exchanging greetings with them will get them on your mind.
Start texting each other, and your heart will be set a flutter.
If they call you, you're done for.
Enjoy staring at your logs and grinning like a fool.
However, I won't get fooled again. That's what your kind calls kindness.
If you're nice to me, you're nice to others.
I always end up nearly forgetting that. Reality is cruel,
So I'm sure lies are a form of kindness.
Thus, I say kindness itself is also a lie.
I always ended up with these expectations.
And I always ended up with these misunderstandings.
And before I knew it, I stopped hoping.
A highly trained loner is once bitten, twice shy.
As a veteran on this battlefield of life, I've gotten used to losing.
That's why I always hate nice girls.

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I started this show CHUGAKUSEI NIKKI , but don't see why people gaga over it?

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Anyone knows where does mydramalist get the source from? I need a mood booster because where stars land ends next monday, and I bump into chae soo bin's profile in mdl. I was surprised there is a drama called psychometric fellow which I know it is offered to got7 jinyoung and shin ye eun but I never know that chae soo bin is also offered a role there. I'm excited to see chae soo bin again because her acting is really my style, for me it's simple yet on point, but I found no news about that so I'm wondering if it's true or not

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100M Stars:
Father is Strange
J drama Chanpon Tabetaka. Really enjoyed it. Set in 1969, Masashi has spent several years in Tokyo, apart from his family in Nagasaki, in order to focus on playing violin. As college approaches Masashi faces some difficult decisions. Wonderful story.
C drama Yanxi Palace: Lightening strike!

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Hello Beanies! I hope you all had a Happy Thanksgiving yesterday to those that celclebrad it. I sadly had a flare-up and couldn't eat much so I'm hoping that today my stomach behaves so I can eat some leftovers! Do you guys have time to watch dramas on holidays? My family loves retreating to their own corners after dinner and clean-up. We spend the day cooking and playing and watching movies that after dinner we all kind of need our alone time which means I can squeeze an episode of something before I go to bed. My kdrama thanksgivings have been memorable because somehow I end up crying:

*2016: Kill Me, Heal Me- The first drama I cried in. I had been watching kdramas for like 3 months now so it's one of those early dramas you enjoy and can see no faults in during the moment. The scene that made me tear up was when Ji-sung’s character was going to go all noble idiot and he says tell her she deserves to be loved or something like that. I just remember feeling touched by that.
*2017: Youth Over Flowers Africa- The boys made it to Victoria Falls in the final episode and I cried with them. I loved their whole Let's Be Happy/ I Am Happy chant. It was nice to hear and something I needed.
*2018: The Smile Has Left Your Eyes- The finale was definitely memorable and I don't know why but I found myself tearing up. You would think I cry a lot based on this list, but for the most part I don't unless I can relate or feel myself connected to a situation. I guess I got touched by the acting or maybe my body wanted to keep up with the tradition, lol.

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@mary @dramabeans Why don't you try recapping Top star recap?
Reasons to recap
1. very light and funny
2. only 1 episode per week
3. Eng subs are not available till now so reading recap after watching it raw would have made things easy.
4. Satoori
5. Very talented bunch of actors.
I know it doesn't have big names or any such attractions but hope you will consider it.

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*Top star yoo baek

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I can't stop thinking about Chuugaku Seinikki. Some might say I'm obsessed with it. Akira's passion and raw emotions with which he loves Sensei is something I need desperately. Where is my own Akira?

Someone in a comment section pointed out that there is a real-life example for this type of relationship, namely Emmanuel Macron and his wife's. The story of their unusual romance became a well-publicised story. He described the affair as "a love often clandestine, often hidden, misunderstood by many before imposing itself." His wife "was totally charmed by his intelligence and his literary talent" at the age of 15. Once Macron turned 18, the two became an official couple.

Haraguchi-san is full of wisdom, as usual. She has something to say to everyone. My favourite lines of her: "Somehow that's good, isn't it? It's nice to be able to think that she's the only one for you. To hold such feeling strongly as if there's nothing else but her. As expected from you, boy." And her way of scolding the fiancé "If you continue trying to seperate those two like this, you are just a boring person." She didn't try to dissuade Akira from loving Sensei. "If it's so frustrating for you, just grow up quickly and be an adult, boy."
To Sensei: "It rather caught my attention to see Hijiri-chan who seemingly is ordinary to hold such passion like that. It will such a loss if you don't enjoy such side of yourself. Pretending to be ordinary, doing things accepted by society and so hiding your true self. It's very lame to be like that".

However, I'm prepared for an unhappy ending - after all, it's a Japanese drama. Even if they don't go together, their love will live on in the memory.

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The show is wonderfully acted, and completely engaging.

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I am gonna post the same on Mydramalist too

@beantown @bernadett in Japanese Media any kind of outcome is possible. That's y u both can keep your hopes up.
+ve outcome - most fans want
+ve outcome - more open and slightly bittersweet
-ve outcome - every1 including fans heart will burn
-ve outcome - hard to accept yet very possible and logical outcome

@fan you can get some of our feelings through bernadett's comment.

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Finally had a chance to see episode 6... with subs! It continues to be a thoughtful study of the heart and it's desires. I cannot fault Hijiri so far, she is the faultless moral center in the story.

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TGIF! Hope (some) beanies enjoying Thanksgiving holiday (Best part is you get to have nothing but turkey for the whole next week -being sarcastic) And I'd like to say Thanks to DB site for another awesome year. Drama-wise: Hundred Million Stars? I felt writer (and others) agonized over how they should end the show, and I was ok with the ending.(We had this before - My favorite? DAMO!) There were more interviews from casts because it is that time another batch of dramas completed (Player, Third charm, Terrius, Beauty Inside, Hide and Seek etc). The one I checked first was Song Seung-heon of the "Player".(Although I think everyone knows about him too much already) Do you remember the time beanies called SSH "Hand towel" who could not act? (His name sounds like hand(Son) towel(Soogun) in Korean). It seems he overcame such dishonorable tag since he returned to dramas last year.
According to wiki/namuwiki, Song Seung-heon (42), famous for his "charcoal soot eye brow", considered as epitome of "Handsome", "Good looking", began his career in 1995 as a model for the jeans brand STORM. (Maybe that is why the name of his management company he founded in 2009 was "Storm S". Song also owns a branch of Italian restaurant chain Blacksmith.).

Song debuted in the popular sitcom "Three Guys, Three Girls" in 1996. He refused to be in the sitcom later to appear in drama and movie, resulted in being sued by MBC with hefty fine. His movie debut was the film Calla in 1999. His true stardom came with hugely popular drama "Autumn in My Heart"(2000). It became popular in Asia, solidifying his status as a Hallyu star. In 2004 he had army duty scandal (faked the test to avoid it), but agreed to serve in the military. After he was discharged he did the drama East of Eden (2008), for which he won the "Daesang" (Grand Prize) at the MBC Drama Awards. Song was criticized about getting the award along with Kim Myung-min (of Beethoven Virus) who received all the praise, but he said later "I don't think I received the top award because of my acting, but I accepted it representing all staffs in East of Eden."

His Best friend is known to be So Ji-sub (Behind the Terius). It looks that he met So Ji-sub and Won Bin(Autumn tale- how both got in the show?) for the first time in the final model contest. So Ji-sub was not known that time and he used to stay in SSH's house when public transportation was not available at night after work. So describes Song as "Really close and thankful person". Kim Dong-joon who worked in the drama "Black" together also said in an interview "Song seung-heon is humane and has good looks. He is a person who has everything.".
Maybe because he was chosen for the roles thanks to his luck/looks? rather than structured system managment companies have now to groom an actor, he had acting criticism every time which he even admitted himself. But Song said he got the confidence on acting since 2013's drama "When a Man Falls...

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...in Love" and the movie "Obsessed" in 2014 in which he played very different character from his typical role. It seemed that the criticism about his acting disappeared by the time of the drama Saimdang and Black (2017) where he got rave review he acted his life character, surpassed his good looks. Btw Song said "I have to be thankful to my father." for his good looks. Song had the much publicized dating relationship with the Chinese actress Liu Yifei who were in movie "The Third Way of Love" together in 2015. (darn THAAD)

Now onto the interview.[Star news, OSEN] In Player, Song played the scammer Kang Ha-ri. The viewers commended his performance and he received the reaction like "SSH seemed to wear custom-made suits playing the character." The reception for the show was good- Last episode marked 5.8% with its own highest ratings, and viewers expressed expectation about Season 2. "I am so glad we finished nicely. It seems that it had the most laid-back schedule among all the dramas I've done because we started filming early. Scripts were out early too. Director-nim was the assistant director when I did the drama "Summer scent" and we had hyung/dongsaeng relationship. We did "Black" together too last year, and he planned this drama from that time."
Song mentioned why he picked the same genre again. "I talked with director-nim for a while. "Player" could look childish and lacking, but it seems director-nim was aiming for class B senses. I think viewers felt empathy for the plot that ordinary people were doing a big job. I felt more freedom of expression doing "Black" compared to working in major stations. I felt like we were filming a movie. I used to do projects focused on melo. After playing serious and heartache roles it was enjoyable I got to do a story which dealt conflicts of characters in incidents. I found genre kind is more fun as plot centered around the incidents without melo. I found that when I did "Black", but I felt it even more this time. So It was boring when I read other scenarios. I told managers "I think this kind of stuff is fun."

Song felt at ease playing Ha-ri character. "The individual Song seung-heon is playful but because of shyness, he was misunderstood a lot. Since director-nim knew my bouncy image he said "I hope you go with yourself you are familiar with for Ha-ri character. It meant I should relax and not to look cool. I think the viewers thought that was refreshing. I felt comfortable filming. In previous projects I had to pretend innocence."
So was there a reason he gave up pretending? "I couldn't have done it if I was the same person as when I was young. But once I was relaxed, acting was very interesting. I was amused people looked at me more favorably when I acted comfortably than when I acted to look cool and put more muscle. I wonder I changed because I got aged. As time went on my idea and attitude were changed, I think."

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Song mentioned about working with other casts- Jung soo-jung(Ah-ryung), Yi Si-eon(Byung-min) and Tae Won-seok(Jin-woong). "Actually four of us met at the script reading for the first time. Si-eon ssi is a great actor and I was curious since I knew his character from watching him in the variety "I live alone". I was curious about Won-seok ssi because he was newbie, and curious about Soo-jung because I heard she was very shy. She was the type who approached the person she felt comfortable like me easily, but shy in unfamiliar situations. Because I was the oldest I tried to eat and talk as much as possible on the set. Si-eon ssi kept the set atmosphere to be cheerful, and maybe thanks to that, we became close enough that Soo-jung was sad the most when we finished filming. She said she had the most comfortable set among all the projects she has done. We four people became close and still talk in our group chatroom. It has been such long time since I liked this much. Team was just amazing."

Many people are wondering if he will appear in "I live alone". "I live alone team came to the set, and I found CP-nim was assistant director when I did the sitcom. He mentioned about my appearance in the variety, but when he said they install the camera and I am the only one to be shown, I said "I don't have anything to show for so I think it will be boring. Please forget about me." I think variety is much harder (than dramas), since variety genre has to offer plentiful laugh. Maybe later, but now I am not confident."
Song was asked about his marriage plan. "I want to get married too. When I ask friends with children, they say "Marriage is good", "You should, but do it slowly.". I also dream of having lovey-dovey life, getting married and having a baby. I guess I haven't met my fate. When I say something like this, people say "That is why you couldn't marry yet." But I still think there is my fate somewhere and don't want to force any blind date. I am so envious when I watch friends with their babies. I might marry within 5 years." When asked about the ideal type, he said, "I think I need a person who is nice and wise, and who can control and keep me in check. Because I am immature for my age and I got used to live alone freely, it will be nice if she is a person who has a hold over me."

Song was delighted about positive response for his role. "It is amazing. Looking at how Ha-ri was loved, it seems there was strength in the character. I think the project gained empathy from the viewers. I realized again that a project has to be gain understanding first. Our main goal was to film without feeling bored. There were responses drama might be too superficial, but we wanted to portray parts of society where we can criticize, laugh and feel satisfied." As for a comment he remembers the most, Song picked "I saw Song seung-heon in a different light." "As I read it, I thought "But I am the same" and wondered why they said they...

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...viewed me differently. So I guessed the image I had as the actor SSH was "Molded", "Heavy". I thought I was shown like this all along even though I was not like that at all, so I want to challenge more variety of characters."

Song also mentioned about criticism about his past acting. "Personally SSH in 20s, 30s didn't know what the acting was, and acting was very hard and no fun. As time passed while I acted as a job or forced by others, acting felt burdened so the evaluation on my acting was not good either. After I did army service and passed my 30s, I received some fan's letter which stated "I love this project because of you and I felt happy. I hope you are thankful to yourself who has a profession which can make someone happy and joyful." It touched my heart. It made me think again about my work which can move someone when I used to think it was just a job. Since then I thought I should not act half-heartedly and I tried to do my best and have fun acting. So honestly it was only 3-4 years ago I found acting fun. I have much more greed for acting now than ever before. In this show I even wore the wig. I couldn't done that if it were me when I was young. When I took the burden off, I could film enjoying. I disguised in this show more than any of my other project. I can't watch my old acting like in "Autumn Tale". If it airs by chance I feel like changing the channel. I thought I deserved to be criticized. Then again, I thought I looked fresh at that time."

Song thinks acting is the right profession for him. "I feel blessed to be an actor. There are many people who want to be an actor, but not everyone can be loved by public. I think I received undeserving love considering my ability. When someone asks me for an advice as he/she prepares to become an actor, I never give advice. Because there are many times it does not work out and I know it is unstable place. I think I started to act because I didn't know and had just braveries."

Song thinks he wants to do action acting even 20 years later like Tom Cruise. "Doctor said my physical age is young. I found Tom Cruise is 15 years older than me. He is amazing and I thought I wanted to be a cool actor like him." About the question if he wants to do a comedy too, he stated, "I think image has big impact. If a comical actor played my character, people might have taken him for granted, but because SSH did, they seemed watched in new light. Personally I like playing jokes rather than being serious, so I'd like to do such project again." When asked about working on multiple projects, Song said, "I don't believe I should be mysterious as an actor. I want to do more if situation allows. It would be nice if the project successes, but that is not something you can control. That reminds me of a sunbae-nim's comment "Eventually the only thing left is a project, but actors in our country don't do enough projects." So I don't believe that I should take a long...

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...break from doing projects."

As for the possibility of Player season 2, Song said "It is true that there were talks about season system. Director-nim, writer-nim, and casts also said "Our team is so good. Isn't it shame if we have to end after doing just one time?" There is no reason we can't do it again. I'd like to do it again if opportunity is given."

Well If they ever do season 2, I hope they make it more interesting (writer-nim!). btw I loved "Autumn Tale" the most among four season series. SSH fighting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnOSPJ58k2o ('Even after 10 years' from Sad Love story, 2005)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHUrup4kjZ4 (you raise me up)

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Thank you for translating! I loved him in Player and really really hope they do season 2.

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fan, thank you for translating this long SSH interview. I can't wait to share it with my best friend, his fan since 2005. I didn't see Sad Love Story but I totally want that girl's flowered coat!

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Thanks for translating such lengthy interviews, @fanwho. I was truly glad to see Song Seung-heon's performances in SAIMDANG and BLACK, and now PLAYER. I appreciate getting to read his comments on acting and his evolution in the profession. I'm glad he's finding the kinds of roles that float his boat after so many years as an actor. Hwaiting, SSH!

The cast and crew of PLAYER enjoyed their work together, and it showed. I wouldn't mind a second season if it were possible to get them all back together to continue the saga. Even though Ha-ri's revenge mission was accomplished, I'd watch the team doing their latter-day Hong gil-dong homage. ;-)

Thanks for those clips. I had no idea SSH has such a lovely singing voice. I've tried watching some of his earlier works, but I'm not that keen on romantic melodramas and gangster revenge dramas.

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Happy Friday everyone!

After finishing Hundred Stars from the Sky I have a little gap in my life and my watchlist. I'm fairly new to kdramas and so I have a lot of catching up to do...I was hoping some Beanies might be able to help with recommending some dramas to me. I'm especially interested in leads - male and/or female - who are complex and grey/dark, similar to Moo-Young or even Yoo Jung (CITT). Any suggestions?

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Give Heartless City a try. Jung Kyoung-Ho stars

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