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Memories of the Alhambra: Episode 8

As our protagonist moves deeper and deeper into the unpredictable world of the game, he continues to uncover secrets that only lead to more questions. Thankfully he seems to be closing in on the how of whatever is happening to him, if not the why. How do you fight an enemy that has no reason for trying to kill you? The game is proving itself dangerous, but our hero would be wise to keep in mind that the world outside of the game still holds its own dangers.

 
EPISODE 8 RECAP

Jin-woo tells us in voiceover that when he left Granada, he thought he’d see Hee-joo again soon, when Se-joo returned. He’d instructed Secretary Seo to answer Se-joo’s emails as if he were him so that his family wouldn’t worry.

He’d gotten a call from “A” immediately after his confrontation with NPC Hyung-seok in the shower. “A” had told him that he’d looked into this Marco person’s address, and that he’d learned Se-joo’s whereabouts on the day he called Jin-woo.

Jin-woo had gone to Barcelona to look for Se-joo, and he’d found Marco’s apartment in worse shape than Se-joo’s room, if that’s possible. “A” had told Jin-woo that Marco Han was a 23-year-old student from Korea who had dropped out of school and worked as a hacker. Marco was a drug addict who owed a lot of money to his suppliers, and he’d met Se-joo while playing online games.

It was Marco who took the game to Hyung-seok, claiming to have been the primary creator, with Se-joo working as his assistant. He’d demanded ten million won plus profit shares for the rights to the game, and had given Hyung-seok one day to play the game and make up his mind.

Hyung-seok hadn’t seemed that interested until Marco mentioned offering the game to J.One if Hyung-seok turned it down, arrogantly taunting Hyung-seok with the fact that he already had Jin-woo’s phone number. Later he’d called Se-joo and told him that he had Hyung-seok on the hook, but not to mention this to his family yet lest they ruin the deal.

Hyung-seok, Marco, and Se-joo had all left Barcelona for Granada the day before Jin-woo did. For some reason, Se-joo had gone back to Barcelona alone, had called Jin-woo from the train station in a panic, then had boarded the train back to Granada a second time.

Marco had also been missing ever since he left for Granada, but two months later, while getting treatment in America, Jin-woo learned that Marco’s body was found in a wooded area, but that his body was too decomposed to determine cause of death. And even in America, Jin-woo was haunted by the in-game version of Hyung-seok, which left him wondering if he’d die before he ever got the chance to tell Hee-joo that her brother is still missing.

But now that he’s run into her, he’s gotten that chance, though she’s already guessed that he’s been answering Se-joo’s email. Hee-joo sobs that she trusted Jin-woo and worried about him, and was heartbroken by the way he left Granada. But Jin-woo just reminds her that he warned her not to trust him or she’d regret it.

He also says that she guessed correctly — he only bought the hostel in order to obtain the license for Se-joo’s game. He tells Hee-joo how Se-joo called him, asked him to meet in Granada, then disappeared. He says that he paid her so that Hyung-seok couldn’t get the license, and that the contract is legal, even if it feels unfair.

Hee-joo just cries silently as Jin-woo tells her everything, but she quickly wipes her tears when she hears Grandma and Min-joo arriving home. They’re surprised and happy to see Jin-woo, and they make a big fuss over him as Hee-joo retreats to the restroom to cry for her brother.

Eventually Grandma realizes that she hasn’t seen Hee-joo, and when she finds her, she tells her to come say goodbye to Jin-woo. He’s gone when she emerges, so she chases him outside, but he’s driving away. He texts her that they’ll talk another time, and she calls him, asking angrily if he’s running away again.

She spits that she knows now why he left Granada so abruptly — because he’s a fraud, and he couldn’t handle the lies he was telling. She’s crying again as she sobs that she spent her energy pitying and nursing Jin-woo instead of worrying about her brother, but Jin-woo hangs up in the middle of her sentence.

She’s still standing there, soaked and gasping, as Jin-woo’s car backs up to pull alongside her. Jin-woo tells Hee-joo to get in, since what they need to discuss shouldn’t be said in front of her family. Hee-joo gets in and they drive away, unaware that Min-joo witnessed everything.

In the car, Jin-woo says that he should have written the emails so she wouldn’t have guessed the truth. Hee-joo looks at him like he’s crazy, asking if he has a conscience, but he says his life is too screwed up for him to afford the luxury of a conscience.

He says he’s sorry, but he ignored other people’s feelings out of desperation. He offers Hee-joo a sip from his flask to warm up, then takes a drink when she just glares at him.

Elsewhere, Secretary Seo sits down to talk with Director Park. He tells Director Park that he truly sees Hyung-seok covered in blood and holding a sword. He explains that it started a month ago when he and Jin-woo became allies in the game.

He’d tolerated Jin-woo’s grinding (fighting in-game enemies just to gain experience and level up) in the old school building, since he’d seemed better than he’d been in America, but eventually Secretary Seo got bored. So he had started playing the game, using the smart contacts.

He’d had trouble playing alone, so he’d requested an alliance with Jin-woo to help him level up. Jin-woo had objected, but when Secretary Seo said he might be able to help him if he were stronger, he’d reluctantly agreed to the alliance. Awww, he’d even tossed Secretary Seo his old assassin’s blade.

Following Jin-woo around helped Secretary Seo level up quickly, and before long, he saw Hyung-seok show up just like Jin-woo described. He’d slashed Hyung-seok as he was about to attack Jin-woo, and Hyung-seok’s counter-attack had sliced Secretary Seo’s arm painfully. Thankfully, Jin-woo had noticed what was happening and thrown a dagger into Hyung-seok’s back before he could seriously injure Secretary Seo.

Secretary Seo tells Director Park that the cut on his arm from Hyung-seok actually hurt, unlike blows from other NPCs. Director Park just thinks that being around Jin-woo has made Secretary Seo delusional, and Secretary Seo shakes his head, saying that he thought the same about Jin-woo before, but now he knows he’s completely sane.

Director Park remembers earlier today, when Jin-woo told him that he’d continue to trust him, but he’d requested that the launch of the game be delayed. Director Park had literally collapsed on Jin-woo’s desk, whining that canceling at this late date makes no sense. But Jin-woo had argued that with Secretary Seo now seeing Hyung-seok, Director Park has to admit that it’s the game that’s crazy, not him.

Min-joo waits up for Hee-joo, though she lies to Grandma that Hee-joo already came home and went to bed. Eventually Jin-woo brings Hee-joo back, but she’s sick and unconscious after getting caught in the rain. Jin-woo’s driver piggybacks Hee-joo inside, and Jin-woo follows them to Hee-joo’s room.

He apparently took Hee-joo to a doctor, and he leaves behind some medicine. Min-joo says that she covered for Hee-joo because she was embarrassed for her sister, who (she assumes) chased Jin-woo’s car and stayed out late with him for romantic reasons, but Jin-woo quips that Hee-joo actually hates him right now.

He asks for five minutes alone with Hee-joo, and Min-joo, grinning cheekily, allows it. He thinks back to his conversation with Hee-joo, when he’d shown her the info he has on Marco and told her that he’s dead, possibly even murdered. He explains that he didn’t tell her about Se-joo’s disappearance partially because if the police find out that he’s been missing since Marco’s death, Se-joo would become a murder suspect.

He tells Hee-joo honestly that Se-joo might have killed Marco then gone into hiding, no doubt thinking of his own fight with Hyung-seok, but Hee-joo denies the possibility. Jin-woo steps outside the car to give her privacy to cry over her brother’s picture, and while he’s out there, Hee-joo passes out.

Now she wakes in her own bed, and Jin-woo assures her that the documents she saw are all factual, and more detailed than the police reports. Hee-joo reluctantly thanks him for trying so hard to find Se-joo, and she says it’s time she also did something about it.

She tells Jin-woo to leave her house and never come back or contact her, and he agrees, though he promises to have Secretary Seo call her if they find anything. Before he goes, he tells Hee-joo, “Se-joo is alive. We just haven’t found him yet. Don’t worry too much.”

Hee-joo retorts that there wasn’t much hope in those documents she saw, but Jin-woo says there’s no reason to despair, either. He says he can’t prove it yet, but he’s sure Se-joo is alive, and that the only reason he didn’t tell her all this sooner was because he thought he’d have found Se-joo by now.

Hee-joo asks why Jin-woo came here today, when his plan was to wait until after he found Se-joo. He confesses that he missed her, then tells her to be well and leaves. Min-joo walks Jin-woo to his car and guesses that he won’t be coming back. She asks why, disappointed, and he tells her that it’s not that he doesn’t want to, but that he can’t.

Jin-woo has his driver leave the car with him, and he heads to the abandoned school where he works on leveling up. He waits in the car until he gets a text from Young-joon, Yu-ra’s manager, who says he received the package from Jin-woo.

Earlier in the day, Jin-woo had called Young-joon to ask why Yu-ra claims to have just returned from nursing him in America when he’s been in Seoul for months. He’d said that he knows what she was really doing in the States, and even has photos.

Young-joon had switched from smarmy and confident to stammering and scared as Jin-woo told him that he sent them a package. Jin-woo told him to contact him as soon as he got it, and that he wants the divorce settled within the week.

The package contained pictures of Yu-ra and Young-joon canoodling together — no wonder Young-joon looked terrified. He texts Jin-woo that Yu-ra is upset by the pictures, and that he’ll get back in touch when they decide what to do.

Jin-woo heads into the school building, thinking that there was something he wanted to tell Hee-joo if he ever saw her again — that he was sick of fake tears (Yu-ra) and tears filled with excuses (Soo-jin). So seeing Hee-joo cry for him at the train station when he wasn’t even there, and the fact that she looked after him while he was sleeping after his accident, meant a lot to him.

Professor Cha shows up at J.One the following day to speak to Director Park about Jin-woo. Director Park tells him that Jin-woo hasn’t shown up to work after that first day, reluctantly admitting that he’s playing the game instead. Director Park isn’t happy to hear that, especially since Jin-woo ordered them to delay the game launch.

We cut to Jin-woo on top of the school, picking off NPCs on the ground with a sniper rifle. Director Park tells Professor Cha about Jin-woo’s claim that the game is broken, not him, and that whatever is happening to him is the same thing that caused the two young developers to go missing.

We see that Jin-woo is now level 88, giving him the third highest ranking behind Marco (“Marco,” level 92) and Se-joo (“Master,” level 94). Yang-joo previously showed this to Director Park, who guessed that “Master” was Se-joo, but they had no idea who the player “Marco” is.

Jin-woo’s plan is to reach the level that Marco and Se-joo were at when they disappeared and hopefully discover what happened to them. Professor Cha correctly deduces that Jin-woo thinks his son, Hyung-seok, was killed by the game, and Director Park has to admit that that’s what Jin-woo has come to believe.

After hearing Secretary Seo’s story, Director Park had gone to see Jin-woo, and in desperation to know the truth, he’d offered to play the game and become Jin-woo’s ally to learn if he could see Hyung-seok, too. Jin-woo had refused, saying it’s too dangerous. He had attempted to break his alliance with Secretary Seo after learning that he could see Hyung-seok, but even Yang-joo’s advanced hacking skills couldn’t do it.

Director Park smirks that by refusing to let him see for himself, Jin-woo may as well admit that he’s hallucinating. He asks how Jin-woo expects to convince him to delay the game if he won’t show him why, but Jin-woo snaps that he’s not trying to convince him, he’s ordering him.

Director Park relays all this to Professor Cha, who says that if Jin-woo hasn’t improved in the last year, and he won’t prove that what he’s experiencing is real, then he’s not fit to be CEO. He tells Director Park to think of a way to remove Jin-woo without harming the company in the process.

The school grounds are practically carpeted in dead NPC bodies as Jin-woo grinds his way up to level 90. He lies down right there on the ground to rest, but when he hears a hawk’s cry, he opens his eyes. Whatever he sees in the sky makes him sit up and pay attention.

Sang-bum is surprised to learn from Min-joo that Hee-joo is headed back to Granada to be in her friend’s wedding, mostly because the friend already got married a month ago. Hee-joo shows him the documents that Jin-woo gave her about Se-joo’s disappearance, making Sang-bum feel vindicated in his distrust of Jin-woo.

He tells Hee-joo that everyone thinks Jin-woo killed his friend then went free by pretending to be crazy, but she says she has to go back to look for Se-joo. Sang-bum wants to go with her, but she says that she doesn’t want her family to be suspicious, so she needs him here.

He relents and drives Hee-joo to the airport, but after she boards her flight, Sang-bum calls her to say that he’s coming to Granada tomorrow, and hangs up before she can argue. Min-joo calls to say tell Hee-joo that she’s in Jin-woo’s office (he’s friends with the owner of an agency where she’s auditioning to be a trainee), and he walks in while they’re on the phone.

He asks to talk to Hee-joo, and when she fusses at him for breaking his promise, he says that Min-joo called him first. He gets her attention by saying that he has some information on Se-joo, so she needs to get off the plane. He tells her that she won’t find Se-joo in Granada or anywhere else, but that he can prove Se-joo is alive.

We go back to the moment when Jin-woo heard the hawk’s cry, and as he watched the raptor circle overhead, the game informed him that he found a special item — the Citadel’s Hawk, which can only be seen by players level 90 and above.

Jin-woo had followed the game’s directions and reached up to the hawk, and it had flown down to land on his wrist. The game had told Jin-woo, “A messenger from ‘master’ has arrived.”

 
COMMENTS

Oh, this just gets better and better! I love how the general rules of gaming limit Jin-woo as to what he can do, and how he’s being smart about using this particular game’s features to learn more about Se-joo. He had to have known that both Marco and Se-joo were above level 90, so it’s brilliant of him to think of leveling up in order to experience whatever they experienced. This messenger (and I love that it’s a hawk — someone must be playing Assassin’s Creed) must be critical to unlocking the clues, and its discovery makes me feel like Jin-woo is very close to finding out something that will lead him to Se-joo. I can’t wait to see Jin-woo launch a rescue operation to save Se-joo, and himself, from whatever it is that the game is doing to them.

I’m finally starting to see some interesting qualities in Hee-joo, which is good given that we’re now halfway through the show. She hasn’t got much of a stand-out personality, but I actually kind of like that she’s just a normal person caught up in an unusual situation. She seems very astute, which makes sense for someone who’s spent a large number of years taking care of her entire family. She called Jin-woo on his bullshit the very first day they met, and she figured out that the emails she was supposedly getting from Se-joo were actually from Jin-woo. She even put together that he’d lied about his reason for buying the hostel. I like that she’s not scared to stand up to Jin-woo, mostly because she didn’t know he was a rich, powerful man when she first met him, but she still gave it to him with both barrels after learning exactly who he is and how he cheated her. I love that Hee-joo has that fighting spirit, because I’m hoping that she ends up in the game with him, fighting side-by-side Jin-woo and Secretary Seo to take down Jin-woo’s personal demon.

I also find Jin-woo’s explanation for why he’s developed a fondness for Hee-joo when they barely knew each other quite logical and plausible. He’s probably spent most of his adult life surrounded by people who want something from him because of his money and status, so the fact that Hee-joo cared for him without really knowing his public image was significant. Hee-joo cared for him simply because she cared for him, not because she could gain anything by being associated with him, which means that she’s the one person in Jin-woo’s life that sees him for who he truly is. It makes sense that he would care for her back, and even if it’s not really a romantic sort of caring at this point, it’s the kind of awareness that can turn into love if nurtured in the right way.

The game makes such an intriguing antagonist, because as far as we know, it hasn’t developed self-awareness. It has no feelings, no emotions, and no motive (that we know of) for stalking Jin-woo with Hyung-seok’s image, or for whatever it did to Se-joo and Marco. It seems to be completely harmless to most players, since the testers haven’t had anything bad happen to them. And for Se-joo and Marco, the game behaved itself until they were both above level 90, while it dragged Jin-woo and Hyung-seok in when they were only level 4. The only thing connection that Jin-woo and Hyung-seok might have in common with Se-joo and Marco is possible only if Se-joo and Marco had a falling out and became enemies, and fought each other in the game.

So my theory is that Se-joo and Marco had a disagreement over selling the game to Hyung-seok (which would explain Se-joo’s call to Jin-woo when he called Hyung-seok a bad man) and that they fought it out in-game. Se-joo must have won, and the game caused Marco to die for real. That’s probably when Se-joo called Jin-woo, then disappeared on the train (and I went back and checked — when Se-joo opened the door on the train, the person on the other side was wearing Marco’s blue plaid shirt and cross earring, so at this point I’m going with it being a game-generated NPC of Marco who attacked Se-joo). It could have something to do with their former friend status turned to anger, but that would require the game to be able to read its players’ thoughts. I haven’t seen any evidence that the game has any sort of awareness, but at this point I feel like anything is possible!

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Somebody tell our boy not to eat meds in car and drive. Also not to drink and drive. Somebody keep a tab oh him, I can't with dui!

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this drama is getting better with each new episode

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ok I got one big question. Why does Secretary Seo got a better car than CEO Jin Woo? He literally driving sports car against his boss' sedan? wow how to be Secretary Seo 101

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He was paid to be this bored for two months! I mean how can you not get bored at such a job as his, waiting for two months in a car? He deserved it completely. This was the least you can do for such a loyal and nice sec.

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....then I thought realistically, it might be because sports car are too low for his crippled leg. BUT STILL that doesn't mean just by nursing him for 9 months in hospital and babysit (includes *playing* assassin with) him at an abandon school for 2 months, Secretary Seo deserved a god damn sports car? I probably been watching over Hyun Bin since Secret Garden, I deserve a mansion

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LOL! Did you watch all his shows and all his scenes and movies without fast-forwarding?
If, yes, I recommend you trying to apply for the mansion at Hyunbin's agency! Atleast maybe they will send you a signed poster for your new mansion.
Good Luck! Fighting!

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ok I also need the weapons he bought in the game for my mansion in case dr.cha comes over for a duel cus I probably formed an alliance with zinu before I got the poster.

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if you have wifi and a device that can stream videos, this is the best job in the world!!!

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I thought the same thing when I saw their cars!

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Those Lexus cars are drool worthy 😍 I admit the breath caught in my throat when Secretary Seo arrived with that sport Lexus.

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Yes. The ppl at its finest. Even me that couldn’t care less about a ferrari that passed by took notice of how cool Secretary Seo’s car is.

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Hahaha... exact same thought when I saw the scene.

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I was thinking they switched cars off, but maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention. After all, all cars ultimately belong to Jin Woo 😉

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Lexus PPL. They gotta show us the whole range kekekekeke. Even though the obvious choice is the sports car.

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That Lexus is like 100K! Got my husband to watch this just because of it, actually. Lol!

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Probably because sports cats are only fun when you're the one driving. If you have to be driven around, you'd want to be comfortable in the back seat. Would personally choose a jaguar or rolls royce sedan if I were as rich as him though. 😅 but we need them ppl money from lexus

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I'm starting to see the love line but still more interested in the dynamics and rules of the games! And what can Emma do in the game aside from playing the guitar.

I'm with you in that logic LP and can't wait for this week's episodes to know more!

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Does anyone else have a feeling that the guy who fired a shot at Jin Woo in this episode's trailer (also the ending of Episode 2, when Jin Woo is on the train to Granada) is Secretary Seo? The killer sort of resembles him...

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had not thought of this, but am definitely going to go back and see!!

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Since they are allies and there is no way to break their alliance, that's highly unlikely.

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I feel bad for the actor who plays Hyeon-seok lol. At over 8 episodes in, all he's done is show up bloody and get killed over and over again. I hope he at least got paid well, cuz why else would a sane person sign up for this crap role.

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LOL, my thoughts exactly. I thought he’d at least have many flashback scenes but nope, he’s just a bloody and silent killer. I feel bad for him. Imagine what his scripts must look like.

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His script maybe:
- Look at Yoo Jin Woo in the eyes
- Swing you sword twice or more
- Standing still with blood all over his body
- Looking angry or pity or vengeance
- Must come early to apply make up maybe up to 1-2 hours but appears maximum 5-6 minutes

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I pity him too! But at least he got an overseas work trip to spain.

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The script probably just says "Fall and die over and over. Look bloody hot."

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bahahahaha! one time, when i was directing a murder mystery stage play, we did have to do auditions for a corpse. maybe they cast this actor because he is SO GOOD at looking creepy without ever really having facial expressions. i'm actually pretty impressed with him. he should tell his agents to cast him in a slapstick comedy next time though. show some range ;P

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What? You can audition for corpse? I should do that! Make a couple extra bucks, don't have to move, it's all good.

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if you need tips, i got you ;)

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I wonder how much money does actor played Hyung Seok as he does same thing in 8 episodes so far.

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But I must say that I'm always on the edge of my seat when he's about to appear. I never know when exactly and where, and I feel he has some impact even if he's silent (at least until episode 7).

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Looking at the brighter side, at least he is included in this drama. Honestly speaking, I kind of panic everytime they start to play the MOTA song and its raining, hahaha...

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Considering that he is not a high profile actor, this role will be a break for him. This will give him a lot of visibility I think. Its the first time I am noticing him and though he has got limited scenes his character has an impact. It helps that he is a good actor too because all the combat scenes are really intense. Intense, not because a lot of action is involved but JW's life is at stake and the actors' involved provides a lot of emotion in them.

But I wish for a costume upgrade. How do they manage to wear that same bloodied dress every time.

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lol true that. but he plays it well at least, i still get the chills each time he shows up.. and it must not be easy to keep the same expression every time, the slightest hint of change will break his NPC character

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So daddy Cha finally showed his true colours! I knew he was shady from the moment he appeared onscreen, his face screams “villain” 😅

But I nlike others I don’t think Daddy Cha is the mastermind behind the game, I think he’s only after the company and always has been. He cut ties with his son and covered up his son’s suspicious death not to help JW but in order to protect the company’s image and stocks that he’s ultimately after.

The game scenes are still very thrilling and I’m very curious how JW is going to save SJ, at this point Chanyeol’s limiter appearance seems more like a cameo than a supporting role 😆

I don’t understand why they needed to add a romance when the genre and premise of the drama is quite unique and refreshing. I doubt anybody’s watching for the romance anyway and PSH’s crying scenes anyway. The most flabbergasting thing is that the writer is a woman herself. A woman who came up with a sci-fi drama. So why did she think a doormat crying heroine would appeal to female audience anymore?

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I think she wrote it for male audience because it was a Sci-Fi and she thought they will like a beautiful crying woman with genuine tears (um okay okay naturally induced by glycerin tears.) like our main lead.

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@oppafangirl This writer can cross out the video games playing males under 30 as her audience. My college age sons, who didn't mind watching dramas like Healer, White Christmas, Bad Boys cringed while watching unrealistic (beginners idiocy, they called it) gaming battles scenes. While I was watching with horror Hyun Bin’s 5 stories fall in earlier episode, they laughed, rolled their eyes saying, “ That’s why gamers don’t and won’t play AR or MR games in real life setting - it’s too dangerous for them and everyone around them, things like that will be happening all the time.” The game itself seemed silly, slow to them. With hundreds of great video games out there, this particular MOA’ game works Ok as a plot device for the drama. At least for female audiences like me it does. It just doesn’t work as an incentive to watch for people who played hundreds of video games. I wonder if the writer played any games herself, or has someone who isn’t an avid gamer or not a game developer himself providing gaming expertise for free and on beginners level.

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So true! I can't upvote it more. I am wondering what kind of reception in knetz is this show getting? Any idea beanies?

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I realised that the writers male character is the main part of her plot. Somehow all the characters in MOA revolve around jinwoo, from the exes to zombie cha to even Prof Cha, and obviously heejoo, she was created for the purpose of making jinwoo more human then the douchhole he clearly was in the first few epispdes. Heejoo was made to cry so that he can feel something like love after all he got was selfish people around. This might be my one and only drama for this writer I'm going to watch, thank God I didn't have to go through the torture of watching her previous dramas. I'm done with writers like this, they are suppose to have leads who are empowered and independent, but here a character was created as a puppet to arch a mans character. Smh

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I think in that sense W was more balanced by the same writer, she had other issues with that show but not this!

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It seems to me like all of this writer’s shows are hero-focused. Her heroes in QIHM and W are pretty doggone close to perfect; her heroes in Nine and Memories are flawed but end up gaining sympathy due to their circumstances. The heroines never come close to the heroes in intelligence or being a part of the action (except the later for the heroine in W). The heroine in QIHM eventually found out about the hero’s time travel but couldn’t herself and couldn’t help him. The heroine in Nine didn’t find out about the time travel/different time streams till later in the drama when another time stream started to bleed through in her memories.

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Well, I don't think that every kdrama needs to have a balanced plot between a man and a woman. This story is mainly about Jin Woo and his struggle, and I'm ok with it. Maybe because they cast PSH as Hee Joo we were expecting that she would be sharing the spotlight with Hyun Bin on equal percentage, but if that's not the case I'm not too bothered as long as the story keeps being good. And God knows I love badass female characters; if I had written this, Hee Joo would be the one kicking Jin Woo's ass, playing the game and saving everybody.

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but there is someone who is killing people for real. While Cha senior maynot know the computer world, he sure has someone on the sideline doing his bidding. People to worry about

1. PSH's friend oppa - i still don't know why is that character in the drama. Every character has a purpose and his hasn't come to the forefront

2. Mr. A - he is a brilliant hacker and he is relatively a big name for TVN after prison playbook. Is he listed as cameo? what is his real role?

let's see when HB reaches level 92 and meets marco the NPC :P

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I was suspicious of Mr A but he's listed as a cameo. Loved the actor in PP, would be great if he has a bigger role in this.

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I think hyun bin can't see Marco as npc even if he reaches level 92.. He has to make an alliance with master for that to happen.. For that hyun in has to find see jo

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I've been suspicious since he appeared in hospital in Granada... Sometimes I just can't move on from this actor previous characters, like Writer Oh in "W" where he ended up being the "No Face", then Wan-ik in "Mr. Sunshine", and later by becoming Hyun Bin's father in "Rampant", LoL.

Apart from the Game, I'm now more curious about Professor Cha has in mind.... It looks like he wants to kick out Jin-woo from the company and nominates Director Park to be the CEO...

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I don't know at this point I am considering this drama as a hero-centric one.
I wonder if criticism would have been this much if they cast a low profile actress instead of PSH. Though Hee-Joo's passivity and some actions are little questionable for me at this point the show has made it clear that it is her character. I find JW too compelling as a person for me to drop this drama. The game element is intriguing and I am very much rooting for JW to find a way to get outside this mess.

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So I might have over criticised Heejoo yesterday, I did cry with her in the bathroom scene, it wasn't all that bad. I love how she pointed out the fact that she cared and tendered to him more than worrying about her missing brother while he was betraying her all along. The fact that she threw him out also showed a different side from the kind and gullible one. It wasn't bad compared to the previous times she's cried, also heejoo's crying is way of development in character for jinwoo, in other words redemption, obviously, we see jinwoo falling for her from now on?

I think she might play the game, there is no way Emma was created with the purpose of just posing pretty, she clearly has a significance that might come out later in the drama, maybe she's the saviour of jin woo and Sejoo, or I hope that's what happens, also Emma is a healer. I dont how that will play out.

Love the conversation jinwoo has with minjoo, I think everyone does, because they are refreshing from all the heaviness that has been going on since ep one, I think that is why people can't stand all the crying.

Sejoo is either alive and kidnapped or dead and another player has taken his place, like the checkered shirt guy we saw in the second ep who brushed past Jinwoo, he was either hired by Hyeonsuk or the plotting dad who seems to care more for his company then either his son or Jinwoo. He is a shady bastard after all.

‌I have a feeling Seo biseo\secretary might either end up dead or left behind in next ep cause in the flashback shown in the first or second ep jinwoo was the only one on the train when he had a faceoff with the ninja looking soldiers who were mostly killed, but only one was left holding a gun over jinwoo. Let's hope they both survive that, because they head back to Granada to look for sejoo in the next

Am I the only hoping that thinks the hawk isn't controlled by Sejoo, but by someone completely different. Let's hope I'm proven wrong cause if it is then it means Sejoo might be dead.

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The writers uses illnesses in dramas never fail to amuse me, you fall six floors down and walk another day with just broken leg, but getting into rain without umbrella will make you sick and unconscious in less than hour.
This episode was better than previous one, finally we catch up with all retelling and action regarding game seems to move forward at least. Although I wonder why JinWoo keep fighting enemies in historical garbs and using exclusively melee weapon when he already at the level where he can use guns, why his opponent don't get upgraded too. And are we for NPC zombie apocalypse, judging by dr.Cha action?
I'm still not sold on HeeJoo and potential love line, for me it's too little too late.

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I still don’t understand how could he survive that fall even though they tried to explain it.

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Agreed! He fall from 6th floor or roughly say 60-70 feet, and he survived. This is just totally madness. If you can accept that he just had crippled leg after fall from such height then you're crazy too, because reality the chances of dying from that height around 50%-70%. But then again this is k-drama land so anything is plausible. lol

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Same here. I thought he died or be paralyzed after that huge fall. He got away with a broken leg, and manage to drive just a day after that 🤔🤭

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I fell down ONE stair (not one floor) two weeks ago and am still feeling it. But hey, the prosecutor in Player got hit full on by a car going full speed and was still able to walk around the next day after sleeping it off and some band-aids. *shrug*

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But nothing can beat the Last Empress’s survived a shot in the head and falling into the ocean during a cold night. Then emerge as hunky Choi Jin Hyuk. Anyone is welcome to top this.

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Yes, one of my issues with the game, why do the other NPCs not have guns, though they had it on the train in ep2. IS he rigging the game? Then why make so much half way effort. He could make a full effort by fighting with a gun! THough I was told he is trying to gain XP. So he can buy more guns to kill dr. Cha!

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No it was already there at the ending of some episode 2 or 3, I don't remember carefully. They wore masks and were shooting and JIn woo was also shooting

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Maybe I understood wrong, I don't remember what will be in the next episode. But hopefully yes

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If i recall correctly, programmer dude provided JW a backdoor access to the game to level up. But now he is confined in the school compound. Is there a shop in that school to buy weapons? Maybe programmer dude also bestowed JW with all sorts of weapons too. Because from the early eps, JW had to find his sword, and buy weapons. Even when he defeated Cha, he didnt gain Cha's sword so i dont think he can collect weapons from dead NPCs too.

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Then I have an even bigger issue if they can access or tweak the code, why don't they debug or read the code to find out what is wrong, I mean come on, they can hire god damn great programmers in Korea. And no one has to painfully fight with a limb and swords.

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I have a issues with the game development by the team. I'm not sure which version is JW playing, which version is the team updating 😅

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he has asked his R&D head to create these characters to level up, so why would he ask for strong competitors?

Think of it as an original program and then new modules being created and merged with original. Creators of new modules can't touch original program. Hence, you have cha appearing everywhere while other assassins are in control

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although reminds me of death note. Has anyone seen/read the original? even with hunger games part 1..atleast i realized that majority of the people enjoy killing and killing can be very addictive in today's stressful world.. it gets exciting at some point and hence popularity of such games and movies adn novels

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Jin-woo better delay release of the game until they can be sure that in-game duels between players won't lead to real-world deaths. So far the score seems to be 2 such duels and 2 deaths. That could lead to really poor user reviews :)

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I also think cities would be stepping in because the nature of the game poses some major safety concerns for both players and innocent bystanders. All those players flailing about in city square, not to mention the distraction of driving while logged in could lead to some collateral damage of property and people.

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we don't know about marco
the only potential case is of HB and HS.. but there is ample evidence that AR is not affecting real life and the battles will not have real consequences

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If I were planning to market a game that could kill half the players, I would:

1: Hype it like crazy before it shipped.
2: Emphasize pre-orders.
3: Not hand out review copies in advance (but on release day I might send copied to some reviewers I didn't like)
4: Buy a plane ticket to...

Come to think of it #1 & #2 are standard for big releases, and #3 isn't unknown. Oh dear :(

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If this is a How To Get Away with Genocide, I think it needs a Fake One's Own Death step...

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Or Maybe just the script to Infinity War... *Cough*

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Or is the game purposely design to kill off players in a mission to reduce the world population ala evil dude in kingsman or thanos in infinty war?

I might have watched too many movies🤭🤣

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The dead don’t write reviews...?

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But "winners" who feel guilty might....

.... or picture some Cha-like zombie logging and posting a review every day :)

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So are we 100% sure that "Master" is Se-joo, or are we in for a surprise in a few days. I have this vision of Jin-woo taking Hee-joo to meet her brother and being totally embarrassed when they run into someone else.

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I think we are assuming, but it's a pretty fair assumption, though your scenario would be pretty funny to be honest.

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Master is probably CEO of Subway.

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Savage. hahahahahaha

Plot twist, Master is Daddy Cha. lol

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So should the players expected to receive a 1 year supply of master size sandwhiches for completing the game? I’m in 🥖.

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i'm thinking it's really Se-joo. When HJ was reading the email from Se-joo, the from line said "Master" (its a quick shot, but I hadn't heard of him referred to as that yet, and it struck me as weird)

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Master might be HJ's sidekick or friend who is like family.

Then both JW and HJ will realize that they were looking the wrong way all this time. So they get even more close plotting their revenge for being totally played by seemingly nice sidekick friend. Haha 😆

As for SJ, 🤷🏻‍♀️. Isnt he dead? He was flickering at the train station just like zombie cha in the game. If he is still alive, the writer needs to give a super good explaination.

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I think the train station was just Jin-woo imagining what might have happened. Not necessarily what really happened.

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Nah. I dont see a reason JW would imagine that and how he could come up to that imagination. Whatever it is, the writer must connect the dots well. There's too many loopholes now, which dampens my enjoyment but i'm still watching because i'm curious.

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I don't know. That's how I also took that scene. Because there was JW's voice-over narrating, what 'could have' happened to Se Joo. Se-joo took a ticket to Granada station but didn't get off the train. His bag was found inside and it is not probable that he got off in another station. JW also witnessed how CHS was killed in real life due to the game. So I think it is a possible scenario for him to imagine what if he was already lying dead in that platform and JW couldn't see him.

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There was flashback scene when JinWoo waited at the trainstation for train from Barcelona and after all the passenger departed and he was lookin aroung there was shot of SeJoo lying on the ground, either seriously injured or dying, and no one seems to seeing him.

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It could be imagined by Jin Woo.

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But it was shot in such a manner that Jin Woo couldn't see him too, it was another one of this flashback, that we have no idea where they coming from.

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JW wasn't wearing lenses at that point, he wasn't in the game and hence could not see SJ. Also, SJ even if hit hasn't died like cha but he keeps playing that level and what it signifies is that SJ played that level multiple times during that train ride - one attempt we saw, of him being shot then and there , another attempt must have been when he escaped to the platform :) .. and he is probably doing the same thing as HB.. trying to finish the game by leveling up so that the game can end

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I think it was imagined by Jin Woo, there was JW's voice-over narrating the scene. Something like, maybe he died without anybody noticing him. (not sure about the exact words). JW was thinking about what would have happened to Sejoo.

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actually, did you see the latest BTS?
JW is narrating the entire story, so now he knows that SJ was on the station, he wasn't imagining it.

And new BTS shows SJ in marco's room, which we have already seen JW search.. meaning SJ was there and they couldn't see him

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But BTS is only BTS. It is the way things are presented in the drama that changes things.
JW is narrating things after one year gap (I think) I don't know if he is talking from the ending point of the drama. We don't know if he found SJ after that.
Even if he found him later, at that scene he was just talking about the possible scenarios. I have to rewatch the scene but I think he uses a word similar to 'ochamyon' which somewhat means like "it is possible".

Finding if Se Joo is dead or alive is a bigger part of the plot and if it is revealed like that on one scene what is left to know.
At least, that is how I understood it.

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I was referring to the train station scene.
Just now watched Marco's room Bts.
maybe you are right about that. But did we saw him running out of that room with his bag pack and all in an earlier scene while JW was narrating? (I am not sure)
But about the Train station scene, for now, I think he was imagining it.

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you missed the bigger hint we got in ep 7 :)

a place can be created where a person can hide himself from another player. And if you stretch that theory, how about going incognito so that your login doesn't even appear in the list :)

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vicinity vs non vicinity maybe.
because it is ultimately a physical hide out.. but yes the rules aren't clear as yet

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There are cheat codes one can use and it Seo's login was facilitated by that hacked in Jone who can control the whole game.
Also, the vicinity must be an important thing.

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lol. Cha senior doesn't even sees his own son as his son or his son's son as his grandson.. forget JW :P

he likes his company , that's it!

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"someone must be playing Assassin’s Creed"

Yaa, this drama in the early episodes reminded me of AC too much and then when the Hawk appeared in this ep from the sky and sat on his hand I was like hey thats AC ref!!

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I must be watching a different show, I was mostly bored. Previously, I would sit up at the sound of thunder and the guitar tune. Now, even zombie Hyung Seok is becoming more of a joke than a frightening specter. It's midway into the series and not much progress. So we know Marco is dead and the hawk gets to play a role in something other than a period drama. I am still tuning in though for the next episode thanks to that little morsel - "messenger from the Master"

I still don't find Hee Joo interesting. I was absolutely aghast that the writer actually had her faint! It's a throwback to those Victorian days when women faint easily because they were deemed the weaker sex. The scene was so badly done that I had to check again that this drama is directed by the same PD of Forest of Secrets.

I said previously that I don't need a reason for romance. I just need the couple to work. So I'd rather the writer save that half-baked story of women's tears, why Hee Joo's the one who touched Jin Woo's heart and use this to make Hee Joo cry every single episode.

I think I've written enough rants about Hee Joo not responding quick enough the moment she realized something is amiss with her Se Joo. When Jin Woo admitted he fooled her and also tricked her into selling the hostel, Hee Joo should have a far greater response than just cry. I wanted her to lash out at him or whatever. Surely that anger and horror of her brother's possible fate should be much more? It's not that I have a problem with Hee Joo's crying but her response was so insipid.

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And she addmitted she already knew, that SeJoo was missing and something was off with hostel sale and still choose do nothing, waiting for JinWoo to show up and explain everything away, when she was crying in the bathroom she wasn't crying for her brother she was crying because her fantasy of JinWoo as her white knight was shattered away. All her action is reaction to whatever JinWoo did, she has no agency whatsoever, and rest of female cast are present as evil or not to be trusted because they act out in their own interest.

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I mean realistically speaking, what can she do? She started to have suspicions but no solid proof of any kind. Also by the time she started to have suspicions about her brother's whereabouts (already a lot of time had passed), and then she started to have suspicions about the hostel when she heard from her friend that it was still there and abandoned (again already a lot of time had passed). What could she do?

Also admitting to herself that her suspicions were correct was probably a very terrifying and horrifying endeavor, and that is why she probably rationalized that she had to ask JW because he was her last line to that feeling of safety and assurance... even if logically she probably was starting to doubt him as well. I mean I can understand her reaction of shutting down, and sort of being in denial for a while.

Then when she faced JW and he admitted everything to her, again what could she do? Even if she lashed out at him, and hit him or slapped him, would anything have been accomplished? So I can understand her reaction, her despair because she is really out of her element and depth and has no-one to rely on or to help her out or at least to advice her on what to do in such a terrible situation. I felt like she was sort-of relying on JW to find SJ out of despair, and after reading the documents which proved JW's words, and not because she really trusted him.

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That's what make her such unlikeable character, she just there and will do nothing waiting for someone else to do something even if it about her family member. She could reported him missing to police in Spain, engage her friends in Spain to post a flyers, spread a word around, contact JW and demand answer, engage a lawyer and threat to sue JOne, but she choose to do nothing at all.

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That's the question we have been asking -
"What could Hee Joo do?"

Plenty actually besides waiting for Jin Woo to show up at her door.

She could have demanded that he call her immediately the moment she suspect the email wasn't written by him.

She could have used her money to hire detectives to hunt down her brother.

She could have dig up more crap on Jin Woo and know for certain that he knew something about Se Joo disappearance. Then hire people to seek him out.

I don't know how many days she spent shutting down, being in denial and waiting for Jin Woo to show up. All this while, suspecting that something has happened to Se Joo.

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I agree with this to a certain extent, but I also would like to say that people don't always react in rational ways when faced with highly stressful situations.

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That is acceptable if we are talking about a short time frame but I don't think it's the case here. Some people snapped out of their fear or shock quickly and jump into action. Some may twiddle their thumbs for a while. But no one will wait for days on end and do nothing.

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"when she was crying in the bathroom she wasn't crying for her brother she was crying because her fantasy of JinWoo as her white knight was shattered away."

That was exactly what I thought when I watched the scene but doesn't it make Hee Joo an even worse person? Is trusting Jin Woo or upholding him in her fantasy more important than her brother?

I am with you on the rest of the female cast too. Take Yu Ra for example - who is Jin Woo to call her a hypocrite? Did he really not know what she's like when he married her? I don't know about other viewers but every time Yu Ra comes on, rather than hate her, I am reminded of the mistakes that Jin Woo must have committed in the past.

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I agree with you about Yura... she is annoying and fake and a bimbo, but he's the one at fault for tying the knot with her (just to get back at his ex-wife and friend). However the drama is showing us that he brought nothing but problems on himself because of his actions.

I like JW's first wife, and I hope they give her more screen time. She strikes me as a genuinely good person who made a mistake, and now a widow with a newborn child. I find her an interesting character, and not cartoonish like JW's second (soon-to-be) ex-wife.

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Mmm, not sure if it will be shown in the drama (actually I don't want to) but there was something about their backstory in the character description. They met at a party or something when JW was totally broken/destructive after the divorce. She consoled him and they felt a spark and got married in rush. They couldn't match well due to personality differences and the marriage fell apart within months. But encouraged by her manager/past boyfriend she is demanding for a huge lot of money. Maybe, he felt like he should prove that he is doing well to others. Of course, it was a rash move and he is paying for it.

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If I’m not mistaken, he stated in ep. 6 that he did it (married Yu Ra) in the heat of the moment. Maybe Woo-jin thought that if she could easily find a new husband to replace him, he could easily do that as well.

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Heh. You probably expected a common sense reaction from Hee Joo like, “ Hey, you, sit down and explain everything about my brother to me right now! You are not leaving this house until I hear every single detail about how you are connected to my brother and his disappearance!” Normal people would communicate like this, right? Wrong. Not in Kdramas. Don’t watch with Western “everyone is equal here, let’s just talk” mindset. Other countries have completely different etiquettes and rules. There is an age, gender and status difference between Hee Joo and Jin Woo. In this old fashioned writer’s mind all Hee Joo can do is cry, complain, stomp her feet and faint from being exhausted of all these gracious and ladylike (only, she’s an example of pure, naive girl every guy should desire) tantrums. Just remember, every Kdrama blog is an international forum, many of the ladies here have to deal with even worse misogyny in their own communities. Not many will complain about how poorly the female characters and their dialogues are written, and I can understand them.

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This is not about gender equality. When it comes to a loved one, I think anyone will throw etiquette and rules out of the window in that moment of fury. I can't give specific examples at this moment but I've seen often in kdramas when a mother loses her child, she will tear at whoever may be responsible or knows about the disappearance.

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Plus there are plenty of strong and interesting women characters in kdrama in recent years, that putting everything on cultural difference is doing disservice to those writers.

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Thank you! I have TONS of varied female kdrama characters who I love and who I think are written well and given depth, are truly flawed but you can root for them.

This is not about cultural differences. A number of writers within this culture have been able to write female characters and write them well.

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I so agree, many beanies are foreigners. I actually came across a fan acount of PSH in Instagram and they had posted a few pics on translated Knets comments on heejoo and PSH character, they were praising her crying and how realistic and beautiful she looked. We are the minority in criticising her character. Lol

But I will say PSH knows how to cry, she was crying ahead of time for her shot when they were shooting in the rain when jinwoo was stalked by hyoensuk.

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lol.. i guess am the only one who just cares about the game..
i am just not bothered with the human side of this story because it holds no interesting motifs anyways..

i just want my game be given justice and not messed up with

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I liked eps 7 and 8 of MOA a lot more than eps 5 and 6... It is interesting how this show seems to be fluctuating for me. I thought eps 1 and 2 were okay, eps 3 and 4 were good, eps 5 and 6 suffocating and slow, and eps 7 and 8 good and the best eps of this drama so far! I hope that this show will continue to get better with every ep after this!

As for HJ, I like her and don't understand the criticism she gets... I feel that her character is similar in level to PBG's character in Encounter (and yet he doesn't get half the amount of criticism). She cries a lot (so what?). I don't feel like she is a doormat (because up to this point, she hasn't let anyone walkover her). She is simply innocent, sweet, trusting, and a bit timid; and her role is not really active, but she is the heart of the drama... so I have no problem with HJ (although I wish the character was more fleshed out, and I feel like she is getting fleshed out slowly).

Also this writer is known for these types of super sweet and sort-of timid heroines, who none-the-less have a big impact on the male lead and sometimes the story as well (like W), and I like that. I guess different strokes for different folks. Also I am looking forward to the romance aspect finally developing, because I'm finally seeing strong chemistry between HJ and JW (these two eps, 7 and 8).

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Also forgot to add: I love Minjoo's interactions with JW! She makes him laugh, and I can just tell that he likes her spunk and innocence and silly teenage rationality... like he gets a respite respite from his dark world when she interacts with him. It seems that JW has gained a bright young sister, and he still doesn't know it yet.

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I agree with you about HJ. She is a good person who takes care of her whole family at a young age. In real world, some people can be more sensitive, emotional than most. I like your assessment.

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Uh oh. Couldnt agree more. I love PSH. I admire her acting. I wished that she will be given a big part in the show. Shes way too good an actress to be treated like a 2nd lead. It is focusing more on JW. But this show is really something new and refreshing, totally different from other usual dramas. And I look forward to the romance between HJ and JW.

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Oh wow, that was a great theory you proposed at the end about Sejoo and Marco - I didn't even think about the fact that they may have become enemies in the game too! Definitely going to go back and watch and see what you were talking about... that makes things even more interesting.

Really excited for the next episodes and hoping Heejoo can play more of a role in the game too. I have to say Jinwoo's character has been so compelling in this story, credit to Hyun Bin for really playing him so well.

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It makes sense. The theory that Marco and Sejoo had become like Jin Woo and Huyng Seok, or rather Marco had become the first “griefer” in the game by getting accidentally killed ( similar to Huyng Seok demise, maybe) by Sejoo. Marco was probably chasing after Sejoo, who was escaping him, after desperate Marco tried to kill Sejoo in real life in order to have the contract rights and all the money to himself. Or could it be that Huyng Seok logged in the game first and killed Marco, or told his guys to chase and kill Marco and Sejoo in real life to get ...the game rights for free? My head is spinning from all the theories now. One thing I’m sure of - Huyng Seok is not a nice character. He was killed by Jin Woo (by accident, of course, in the game) and became game’s villain after committing real crimes that Jin Woo doesn’t know about yet. The crimes that are much worse than just taking away friend’s wife. Otherwise, Jin Woo would have felt guilt all his life, and would become a villain in this drama not a protagonist. And we can’t have our favorite dimples belonging to a villain, no way.

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So LollyPip, you think Se-joo was running from Marco in Ep1? Will have to rewatch now. I think everyone should go back to Granada. There’s an answer or 2 there.
Thanks for recapping.

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or just kill your neighbour by making their login :P

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The last theory is reaching for me...it is the only thing that I could think of and makes this story moving forward. SJ must be fighting with Marco, which involving HS in Granada at that time. I hope the story arc will continue interesting until the end of drama.

On the other side, I hope the close-friend of HJ didn't do anything stupid (like telling the press about Zinu is a potential murderer), linking SJ in this case too. That would be the most idiot things and hopefully HJ managed to explain to him just like what Zinu told her before (erasing SJ trail in Marco's related murder case).

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but if he killed Marco, why did he call JW to tell cha is the bad guy :P

this cha can't be HS.. has to be someone else or HS did kill marco as in his hunchmen did

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BUT, ep 1 clearly stated the rule for us, in video game it isn't about you, it is about what level you are at and what weapon you have, so for anyone to kill SJ or Marco (ok we don't know how marco got killed) but for someone to kill SJ, he has to be at a higher level too otherwise like cha this character would not have been a threat to SJ either.

Someone, was at same level or level higher than SJ at time of train scene. And therefore, cannot be Marco because Marco died on land and not in train.

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Good point about Marco, JW, Cha, and the phone call from SJ.

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Yes, a plausible theory here too. The huntchmen kill Marco and that's why SJ run. I don't put much thought about the logic behind this drama, normally just go with the flow. But, cross fingers it will keep me stay interested towards the end 😅.

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Nice analysis, @lollypip! I'm sure you're right about Marco being SJ's pursuer, but thing I don't understand are (1) how Marco's body ended up in the woods (2) why SJ went back to Barcelona -- surely not just to call JW? (3) why he ran back to Grenada if he was running from Marco? (4) how he would be able to hide from Marco, if HS can show up everywhere JW is, even the shower? Don't the same rules apply?

Little sister is the most authentic character in this drama. Her conversations with JW are the best, and always so funny.

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For me its, JW, MJ and our game

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I disagree with you about people around Jinwoo's being insincere and expect something from him. I think the first wife and Cha Hyeon-seok were genuinely fond of him. I know later they fell out, but real friendship was definitely exist initially.

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Maybe there is a devil that whispering to Jin-woo that them could not be trusted. *smirking at Kim Eui Sung*

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Jin-woo steps outside the car to give her privacy to cry over her brother’s picture, and while he’s out there, Hee-joo passes out.

Everything that is wrong with this show's writing in one sentence.

I'm sad to say, dear Beanies, the Snark Queen is out. I was genuinely bored in this episode and the female lead makes me wants to euthanise myself to end the torture.

Please feel free to tag me if it gets better and/or you wish you'd joined me.

MoA Status: Dropped

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Can I add my grievances about this show’s writing to yours? Did they have to drop Hyun Bin from the top flooor and make him limp? Why? Did they have to make a female lead character so timid, passive, and old fashioned. not in good way? Then give all the sass and fire to her littlltle sister, making drama viewers wish for Jin Woo to wait few years for the sister to grow up. Why even write a sister character?! Poor PSH, can’t ever get a break from evil handsome rich guys. Maybe it’s her Heirs curse or something?

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I still can't believe she realised her brother was missing and that he was faking the emails (and that he had used her to obtain his game). But instead of contacting him and confronting him or asking him what was going on... she just sat there passively making guitars until he came to see her and then cried about it.

What if he never came to visit her? Would she sit there sobbing impotently in her workshop forever?

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What if he never came to visit her? Would she sit there sobbing impotently in her workshop forever?

*shakes Magic 8 ball* Signs point to yes

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It's the writer who is letting this character down. In some dramas, as a lead character, she would have her own story arc and her own turn on screen. In this drama, she only shows up when needed by JW, and if he isn't on screen, it's because they need to explain her move to Korea or why her not-boyfriend is hanging around.

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I agree. How can they do this to Shin Hye? Paging writers, do something. The younger sister gets praised while HJ gets criticized. So unfair. Haha. Will just wait for the next ep. Am still excited for the romance part between JW and HJ, if any. Aww.

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Putting together my thoughts on the game:

1. Fact 1 - game has its rules and rules don't change
2. Fact 2 - rules that we are positive about:
a) Alliances cannot change
b) Success at each level is not about your skills but about your level and your weapons. So, fighting a higher level person, you are going to lose.
c) going over the same obstacle again and again will still give you points (aka keep killing the same person and don't explore the game but you will still level up)
d) it is possible to create a safe place for yourself where you can block entry of other gamers (you can't stop game's genuine NPCs or assassins or obstacles or have them created in that safe place, but you can stop other players from entering and finding you)
e) the moment a login in created, your NPC is created. So, even if you quit you become a character in the game
f) Alhambra and rain signal bad things
g) To proceed to next level, you must clear the obstacle of previous level (e.g. statue in level 1, etc. or like HB is an obstacle for cha that he hasn't won yet)
3. Fact 3: A server exists, somewhere
4. Fact 4: A duel or fight or anything stops ONLY WHEN a real non player human is standing literally between the assassin and player.. not on the sides, not in the same room, but in between the actual line of sight of the two game entities
5. Fact 5: Blood from game shows up only in the game. Outside the game, no blood or wound shows up
6. Fact 6: Noone else has reported or shown to be seeing the game without lenses as yet. The greatest proof is Seo. HB when without lenses only sees HS and nothing else ( no arrows, no weapon shops, no other setting or character from the game)
7. Fact 7: Jone has managed to hack into the game and start preparing their own modules of the game and merge with original. they can't change original though. The only channel they potentially had was JW's lenses and access to game through his login.

Analysis as follows

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SJ's death:
Ep 1, we see SJ running from someone, with lot of people in line of sight, calling JW, entering the coach with people around, and in all of this we see blood on his t-shirt. Everything is quiet. At some later point it starts to rain and music plays, he is shot , blood splatters on the sheet, the other guy wakes up - finds SJ missing and no blood on the seat :)

Now, refer to fact 5, 4, and 2f and the additional fact that i missed, when you are sleeping you are not in the game.

So, when he was running across the road, there were so many people. What was it that he was still seeing? Also, why was their blood on his t-shirt. He sits in the train, and there is still blood on his t-shirt. He is clearly not in the game, he wasn't in the game from the start of his appearance because there were so many people around and it wasn't raining nor was the music playing. He went into the game only when in the train and in morning. If you ask me why not earlier, because at some point he slept in the train :)

So, unless writer wants to go real illogical route and ignore her own rules, SJ was being hunted for real and not by AR character.

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@alasecond A minor note here ... 'W' was criticised precisely because writer did not remain logical in the rules. Rules changed without explanation (as and when it suited to make the villain more invincible) and without logic and irritated the bejesus out of some of us viewers. 😏

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The difference is, W was fantastical world to begin with and i think rule bending was less obvious there than Alahmbra, plus Alahambra is real and not fantasy, we have these games out there.. all of this is actually perfectly possible.

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On real life impact of a duel with another player:

HB got critically hit multiple times by NPCs and did not die. He did get and felt the hurt of wounds for real. Same with other players in the game.

HB fought Cha and left immediately. He left the same night for Barcelona, reached his hotel and slept off (i'm going to make a guess here that he was so tired that he probably slept his way to the hotel too e.g. in plane, in taxi) - He wasn't in the game!!! and cha wasn't appearing near anyone.

HB hears cha is dead, he rushes back. Now, here's a catch - doctor throws the blood remark. HB goes back to the same place where he killed cha and cha as NPC appears for the first time (to us, but then other than JW no-one else is wearing the lenses to show us if NPC was there already or not).

Now, JW could not have physically or in anyway managed to actually log cha in. We also know that cha was wearing his lenses and went out to duel with JW, BUT doctor's did not find any lenses on HS's dead body :)

1. When HS died, he didn't log off
2. Somebody bothered to take the lenses out of HS's eyes before meds arrived and it wasn't JW
3. To proceed to next level, one must clear the obstacles in previous/ current level. The last obstacle for HS is JW duel and until he doesn't kill JW , he really can't move on.

4. Now, if actually killing another player is what starts the bare naked eyes to start seeing AR then that hypothesis has yet to be tested. We can't rule out this scenario. And this would explain why only JW can see the game without lenses. But, this would also explain why or whether SJ can see the game without lenses because presumably he killed marco as per popular theory.

5. Now, friends alliances share points and karma of the level. So, Seo should have been able to see Cha with naked eyes too, but that hasn't happened at all. Infact, now both are seeing it with lenses and basically wearing lenses all the time.

Therefore, the original bit about Cha appearing everywhere was not real and it was post traumatic disorder for JW, seeing how that doctor told him that cha died as if bled to death :)

On real life deaths:
Hmm, as per logic of the game, deaths in game cannot have real life impact. HS's death is either just natural death or this drama is not going to follow any rules with respect to when real life gets affected and when not.

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Ok, just read recapper's theory.. so i think my point number 4 above is right.

When you "kill" another real player in the game, is when they become your personal nightmare!!! :)
That's like morality in the game :) As recapper said, marco was on the other side of the train, then yes, killing someone is what changes everything.

This game is learning with every move. And i checked, in the train in morning, the person who shoots the gun at SJ is wearing blue shirt :) . it is marco

Now, they really need to find the server.

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I’d like to find not only the server but also their internet provider’s name and network tech as well. The game never lags no matter where the players go. This technology doesn’t exist yet. So the drama is a pure Sci-Fi with not much logic behind it. Still. If I’m in for the dimples, and I am, who cares about logic.

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game lags.. remember HB and the arrows :)
wifi is not much of a problem, if there is AI element, the program can attach itself to any internet connection.

As far as granada is concerned, that should be manageable. Korea and other countries are actually being managed by J-One so that has proper network planning behind it

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lol..me too.. for the dimples..only the dimples. When I saw him sitting so forlorn inside that shower, I reached out to give him a big hug..logic? who cares?

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I remember JW saying that the server wasn't the issue since HS was still pursuing him in the US.

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Regarding rule 4, it’s not just human, any obstacle that the NPC cannot simply walk around will do. That’s why JW has hid in rooms and bathroom with the door closed, and in car.

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At this point, I finally accepted the fact that this drama is solely about Jin-woo's stories. He is the one narrating the story, and also the one whose point-of-view we followed. I just realized that we saw and processed everything from his perspective. It certainly created a first hand access for viewer to his thought and reasons behind his actions that makes his character more relatable, but it also colored the way we see other characters based on his judgment and biases.

And honestly, I think it's both funny and awesome that the writer is fully (and blatantly) making use of this particular point. Like telling us that Jin-woo actually likes Hee-joo's tears. It should be a frustrating reason to fall in love, but we watched this story unfolded using Jin-woo's logic. And if he was really moved by Hee-joo's tears, what can I do besides laugh and accept it as it is? Also, maybe that explain the lack of logic in Hee-joo's family dynamic since Jin-woo only knew about it from secondhand accounts and what little Hee-joo told him.

I do wish the writer gave them both equal voice in the drama, but if this was what we get, I better get used to this. That way, I can be plesantly surprised if the writer decided to give Hee-joo or Emma more interesting and important roles to play in upcoming eps.

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I've had a similar realization, too.

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she does narrate in some of the earlier episodes if i recall correctly, that' s why i kind of gave up on game within a game theory

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Kdramaland- where you can just get on and off planes at the drop of a hat. Dang I should've added that into my Drama Recipe.

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he is a super rich ceo.. ofcourse he can..
and the way korea works, they would have the entire plane work around a chaebol's schedule

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