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Memories of the Alhambra: Episode 11

Allies and enemies don’t only exist in the AR world, and our protagonist is due for some rude awakenings as he takes a step back from the game. Jin-woo finally faces the consequences of his game obsession, which have come to a head in the real world — unfortunately, not in his favor. With the loss of former friends and family, Jin-woo desperately searches for validation and someone who will trust his nightmare of a reality.

  
EPISODE 11 RECAP

At the news of Secretary Seo’s death in Granada, Hee-joo speeds home and tries to contact Jin-woo, but he doesn’t pick up. Hee-joo digs through her things to find the number for Alhambra Palace, where she previously worked, and urgently requests for her friend Diego to find someone who’s wandered into the dungeon prison.

In the dungeon, outnumbered Jin-woo struggles to fight off the NPC zombies and closes his eyes in defeat, as the zombies prepare to take his life. Then, a bright light shines in the dungeon, and the quest stops due to the interference. The zombies disappear, as do Jin-woo’s injuries and sword.

Hee-joo receives a call back from Diego, who reports that Jin-woo is alive. Grandma finds her crying in relief and tries to comfort her as Jin-woo narrates: “With one phone call, Hee-joo saved my life. But she lost her chance to meet her brother.” Jin-woo refuses the security guards’ help and numbly walks out of the dungeon to the hospital.

Director Park waits anxiously as Jin-woo’s will rings in his ears. He finally receives a call from Hee-joo with good news and proceeds to the operations room, where he orders that all the game servers be shut down.

The game developers and users experience the halt as the servers shut down, and even Jin-woo — fighting off warriors in the hospital — also sees the NPC characters and his sword disappear. Once all the servers are shut down, Director Park orders that they remain closed until they can troubleshoot the error.

At the hospital, Jin-woo realizes that the game has been shut down and notices that his limp has returned. He braces himself with the wall and needs a crutch to help him reach the morgue. Jin-woo chokes up at the sight of dead Secretary Seo and grieves the loss of his friend.

Hee-joo and Director Park also arrive in Granada in mourning, and they hear Secretary Seo’s sobbing mother blame Jin-woo for killing her son. He was supposed to get married in a month (oof), and her mother had nagged him to quit his crazy job.

Director Park approaches the family and expresses his condolences for their sudden loss. Secretary Seo’s mother demands to see Jin-woo, and her family carries her away as she continues to wail. Director Park asks how Jin-woo is doing, but he’s told that Jin-woo disappeared from his hospital room that morning. They’re currently searching for him.

Hee-joo looks alarmed at that news, and while Director Park goes inside the morgue to check Secretary Seo’s body, she starts her search for Jin-woo. She runs to the game user café and Hyung-seok’s death park to find him but with no luck. He doesn’t pick up her calls, so she drafts a worried text asking him to call her. Before she sends it, she adds that she misses him.

She waits on the park bench and immediately receives a call from Jin-woo. He tells her that she shouldn’t have come all the way to Granada and admits that he couldn’t find Se-joo. He finds himself despicable, but Hee-joo doesn’t seem concerned about her brother in that moment. She reveals that she called Alhambra Palace to find him because she was scared that he would die.

Hee-joo pleads that Jin-woo stop his dangerous search for Se-joo and says that she’ll search for her brother herself. But Jin-woo won’t give up and tells her that his search isn’t over. He hangs up, and we see that he’s returned to Seoul.

Once Director Park collects his emotions from seeing Secretary Seo, he tells his team to find Jin-woo as soon as they can. His assistant reports to Director Park that Secretary Seo likely died of cerebral hemorrhage from the impact of a fall and wasn’t wearing the contacts when the police discovered his dead body. More curiously, the location of Secretary Seo’s last log-out didn’t match where his body was discovered.

Director Park receives a call from the Seoul office about Jin-woo’s conflicting order to reopen the servers, but he demands that they remain closed. Then, Jin-woo enters the operations room and asserts his authority as the company’s representative.

Professor Cha consults his team about Director Park’s decision to shut down the servers. They report that their test users have logged into the game every day for the past three months and haven’t reported any malfunctions, so they find this precaution puzzling. The meeting is interrupted by the news that Jin-woo has arrived at the company.

Director Park can’t believe that Jin-woo just flew back to Seoul and asks to speak with him on the phone. He’s worried about Jin-woo’s health, but Jin-woo only cares for the game and leveling up. Director Park reminds Jin-woo that he wrote in his will to shut down the servers once the quest is complete. Jin-woo argues that he’s still completing the quest.

Jin-woo says that while he couldn’t find Se-joo in this quest, he did reach the end of the dungeon, where he found a special key from ‘master’ Se-joo. Aha, so he was probably discovered by the guard on his way out. Unfortunately, the key can only be accessed by level 100 and above, so he’s returned to Seoul to level up.

Director Park concludes that Jin-woo has really gone mad. He was loyal to Jin-woo, but he can’t accept that Jin-woo is only worried about playing the game when his friend just died. Jin-woo yells that he needs to play this game even more because of Secretary Seo, so that his death wasn’t in vain.

Frustrated beyond belief, Director Park argues that Jin-woo has failed to prove that his hallucinations are real. He tries to reason with Jin-woo that Secretary Seo died of a cerebral hemorrhage, which could have happened while playing the game but wasn’t a result of an attack by NPCs. He decides that he can’t be on Jin-woo’s side anymore because he’s realized that the real problem is Jin-woo’s insanity.

In the midst of this falling out, Jin-woo still orders for the server to reopen, but Director Park yells in disagreement. Stuck between conflicting demands, the operator doesn’t do anything, so Jin-woo takes matters into his own hands.

When Professor Cha marches into the room, he finds the operator on the ground and Jin-woo unconscious in a chair. The employees explain that Jin-woo tried to forcibly reopen the server and resorted to violence when the operator pushed back. After punching the operator, Jin-woo fainted, and the employees worry that he’s unwell.

Professor Cha orders everyone out of the room so that he can have a word with Jin-woo. He approaches unconscious Jin-woo and gently calls his name to wake him. When Jin-woo regains consciousness, Professor Cha angrily slaps his across the face. Twice.

Seething in anger, Professor Cha deprecates Jin-woo for betraying him and only proving that he’s really gone insane. He chose Jin-woo over his son and daughter-in-law, and he blames them all for trashing his life. Professor Cha warns him not to make orders anymore, since nobody will listen to a soon-to-be unseated representative.

Then, Professor Cha uses the same words that he used on Hyung-seok to push the guilt on Jin-woo: “Remember this — you betrayed our trust. You are the traitor.” The same words directed at Hyung-seok echo in Jin-woo’s mind as Professor Cha walks out.

Director Park calls Professor Cha and silently agrees to Jin-woo being ousted from the company. Professor Cha tells Director Park to stay put in Granada while he takes care of the power shift. Soon enough, the news covers all the noisiness of Secretary Seo’s death and Jin-woo’s absence due to his medical conditions.

Professor Cha briefs the board on the series of events and Jin-woo’s refusal of medical treatment that make him unfit to lead the company. The board votes to unseat Jin-woo and promote Director Park as J.One’s new representative.

Jin-woo remembers Secretary Seo’s loyalty during his darkest times in the hospital. He would wake up to crying Secretary Seo, and when Jin-woo suggested that he resign from his position, Secretary Seo stubbornly refused to. He trusted that Jin-woo would recover and that they would go back home together.

After Secretary Seo’s funeral, Jin-woo wakes up, surrounded by empty bottles of alcohol, and immediately reaches for more alcohol. Yang-joo brings Hee-joo to Jin-woo’s apartment, and he checks in on Jin-woo at Director (now Representative) Park’s request.

When Hee-joo steps inside, she finds beer bottles all over the living room. Jin-woo comes out of his room and asks if she’s gathered any more information on Se-joo during her trip to Spain. Hee-joo says that she’s contacted Se-joo’s friends and that Director Park helped contact the embassy there. Jin-woo says that Director Park will be more help that him, since Director Park is sane.

Yang-joo suggests that they all go out for a meal, but Jin-woo refuses. Hee-joo turns back before they leave the apartment and tries to persuade Jin-woo to come outside to eat with them. She tells him that it’s her birthday today, so he could at least buy her a meal.

At that, Jin-woo asks if their relationship warrants him to buy her a birthday meal. He unkindly accuses Hee-joo of believing her younger sister’s fantasies of Jin-woo proposing to her, but Hee-joo doesn’t take his prickly response personally. She says that they don’t need to be in any special relationship for him to wish her a happy birthday, but he still refuses her attempts to pull him out of his own despair.

Hee-joo accuses Jin-woo of ruining her birthday last year, when he suddenly left without saying goodbye. She says that she ran to the train station to try to catch him, but she just missed him. Jin-woo pretends that he had no idea and dismisses her to celebrate her birthday before he ruins it again.

Jin-woo wakes up after a long nap and finds multiple missed calls from Director Park. As he gets out of bed, he hears the TV on in his living room, and he finds Hee-joo still waiting for him. She says that she regretted leaving for her birthday party last year, so she waited until he woke up this time.

Hee-joo suggests that they go out for food now and lightly jokes that that they can just be lovers if they need to be in a special relationship to celebrate her birthday together. She adds that she’s probably too good for him.

At the restaurant, Hee-joo complains that most places were closed because they came out so late. She blames him for ruining her birthday again and says that he should feel sorry. Hee-joo notices that she’s the only one talking and asks him to say something, but Jin-woo just continues to eat. Even with the uncomfortable silence, Hee-joo looks relieved to see Jin-woo eat.

After their meal, Hee-joo answers a call from worried Grandma and assures her that she’s heading home soon. Jin-woo offers to drive her home, but Hee-joo insists that she can take a taxi because it’s out of his way. He reminds her that they’re lovers, so he should drive her home. He opens the passenger door, and she obliges.

As Jin-woo drives her home, Hee-joo once again asks him to say something because the silence is making her feel guilty for dragging him out against his will. She clarifies that she only suggested that they be lovers because she wanted him to eat something and takes back that offer.

Jin-woo accuses her for making one-sided decisions and asks if he’s been dumped an hour into their relationship. He says it’s unfair of her, after making his heart flutter. His cheeky confession is interrupted by a call from Director Park to Hee-joo. Director Park asks to speak with Jin-woo on an urgent matter, and Jin-woo reluctantly calls him back.

Director Park suggests that Jin-woo leave the country as soon as possible because Professor Cha is reopening the investigation on Hyung-seok’s death. After hearing this news, Soo-jin arrives in Professor Cha’s office and asks why he’s reopening this investigation after urging her to cover it up last year. Professor Cha says that he needed to protect Jin-woo then, but not anymore.

Director Park knows that Professor Cha is deliberately reopening the investigation to target Jin-woo as the suspect, and he worries that this news will completely ruin Jin-woo. Unfazed by the impending investigation, Jin-woo claims that there’s nothing more to ruin and accuses Director Park of believing that Jin-woo murdered Hyung-seok.

Frustrated by Jin-woo’s nonchalance, Director Park also reveals his suspicions that Professor Cha will target Soo-jin to reclaim Hyung-seok’s inheritance. We see disconcerted Soo-jin insisting that this investigation will not benefit their family, and her father-in-law responds with suspicion that she’s against the investigation because she’s worried about Jin-woo. Oh, that malicious man.

Director Park also shares that Professor Cha recently met with Yu-ra. We see a brief part of their conversation, in which Yu-ra told Professor Cha that Hyung-seok met with her a few times. Director Park would hate to see the news of his friend murdering another friend and begs that Jin-woo avoid this mess.

Jin-woo realizes that he’s facing the immense consequences of failing the quest. He thinks back to Soo-jin’s warning back Professor Cha targeting them next, and he recognizes he hasn’t hit his lowest point yet. He’s still falling and doesn’t know how much lower he’ll go.

It starts to rain heavily, and Jin-woo seems numb to the weather. Hee-joo runs out with an umbrella, and as she approaches him, he remembers her running after him in the train a year ago. He narrates: “Despite my efforts, nothing has changed in the past year.”

Hee-joo asks what’s going on, and Jin-woo says that he’s been ordered to leave. Hee-joo looks concerned, and Jin-woo proceeds to share about his family. His parents passed away early, and he doesn’t have any siblings or children. His best friend who was family to him became his enemy and died. His secretary who was like a younger brother also died.

The man he followed like his father turned his back on him, and his company also abandoned him. He realizes that he has no one beside him, and everyone who used to follow him now mistrusts him. Jin-woo says that he won’t accept that accusations that he’s a madman or a murderer because he’s neither.

He also refuses to leave because that would validate these accusations. Tears brimming his eyes, he says, “If there is only one person that trusts me, then I won’t leave.”

He turns to Hee-joo and asks if she still trusts him. She affirms that she does and says that she’ll continue to trust him. He tells her to prove it, but she doesn’t know how. Jin-woo shows her how, dropping his cane and wrapping his arms around her waist to swoop in for a kiss.

As he pulls away, he narrates: “Nothing has changed in the past year. I’m still miserable and defeated, and I’m falling faster. But if there’s something that has changed, it’s that I didn’t leave and that Hee-joo is beside me.” Jin-woo goes in for another kiss, and Hee-joo drops the umbrella as she kisses him back.

  
COMMENTS

I’m still not feeling the romance, but that’s fine because the romance is rarely intended to be the highlight of any episode. While I do believe the special bond between Jin-woo and Hee-joo, I’m not super invested and just consider it a nice change of pace. Though Hee-joo seems to be carrying a lot of the emotional support in the relationship, it’s really Hyun Bin carrying this romance in the acting department. Park Shin-hye does pull her weight, but she has less to work with. It’s not her fault that Hee-joo lacks the screen time and character dimension that Jin-woo gets, but that imbalance becomes more apparent when I see these two together as a couple.

This episode felt slower, but I appreciated the opportunity to touch base with reality and catch my breath. Being immersed in the AR world and Jin-woo’s reality is stressful and terrifying, so it’s nice to not deal with endless bloodshed for once. And while the AR world is far more riveting that company politics, the heated dialogue between Jin-woo and his company folks was illuminating and important for Jin-woo to discern who’s got his back, which is essentially nobody from his company. I was sad to see Director Park losing his trust in Jin-woo, but he doesn’t seem to have lost all faith, as we saw with that last phone conversation. I find their contentious relationship more compelling than their friendship because they both have strong justifications for their opinions, and I understand both sides. The trust in their relationship is like a tug-of-war based on which world — the AR or reality — has more pressing matters to address, and I like that there’s never a right answer.

The server shut-down was a curious choice by the writers, as it opened up more questions about the nature of the AR game. I agree with the decision to ground Jin-woo back into reality to make him realize what he’s been missing during his AR game obsession, and maybe shutting down the server was the only way to do that. But that throws off my understanding of this seemingly uncontrollable game because in my mind, the AR game had become this cancerous entity that morphed and grew to usurp its own mastermind. Shutting down the server seemed to be the simple solutions to switch off the insanity, undermining the premise that this game was wild and had a life of its own. I wish the option of shutting down the server remained as a hypothetical and not something that was actually manifested in the story because it makes the game feel significantly less powerful.

It’s interesting that Professor Cha is the antagonist outside the AR world, but he functions similarly to the AR world antagonist — the game. He wasn’t the mastermind behind the company creation, but he somehow has usurped control from those who built the company. He’s malicious, capricious, and mercilessly haunts people with their past. He’s basically the AR game in human form, and I’m intrigued by that mirroring in both realities. Professor Cha’s suspicions and Director Park’s frustrations about Jin-woo planted a tiny seed of doubt that Jin-woo is an unreliable narrator, but I am denying that as a possibility for my own sanity. Let’s not go down that rabbit hole — this rabbit hole alone will suffice for now.

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We don't need romance in this show

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Yeah, I don't feel the chemistry between them either but also I'm not offended by the lack of it... I guess its just a "Meh" for me. I don't care for them as a couple and honestly, I'm more intrigued and in interested in the NPC Emma.

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At least I now know the real reason Secretary Seo (Jung Hun) was killed off. Because of they didn’t Jin Woo would have been swayed by his pure bedside tears and fallen in love (based on the romance they’re going with here)... and we’d have a whole different story.

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In a superhero or action movie/show - heroine's main objective is to stand by the side of hero and do a smooch scene as a reward. Heroine is doing that job well here and another heroine will do that in upcoming action drama.

I. for one has no problem with this so called romance. I don't even call it a romance. Also, Its not like all other kdramas have more natural one. Heroine is given a set characteristics and she's been employing all of them. She is just a heroine for the sake of it. She's no more than a side character sceentime wise but she's being a pivot to the story hence considered a Heroine.

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... how is cussing her out for an opposing opinion any better. She's stating her opinion. You don't have to like it or agree with it but you don't need to swear at her like that either. Construct an argument against it or don't say anything?

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I don't need an argument when he consistently insults kdramas on a website about kdramas and, in this one instance, female characters in an entire genre. anyway I'm done

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it actually makes sense.. why are you triggered lol?

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sigh, you're probably going to see the other comment before this one but I apologize for snapping at you. truth to be told, I'm tired of seeing badly written female characters being justified by dissing korea or kdramas or genres, and your comment hit the bullseye. still, it was uncalled for and I am really sorry. this isn't the sort of thing I want to see on DB.

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The comment implied that women can and should not serve any other function in an action or superhero movie.

This is not OK.

In a superhero or action movie, the female lead's role should not be reduced to being a prize at the end of the man's tough journey. Women are not rewards.

If you want to write a movie about a male action hero only, then advertise it as such. But don't include a token female lead who is really just a recurring character who is given nothing to do but cry for the male lead.

Women have other things to do than worry about some random swoonsome man 24/7 and sit around and do nothing else.

Implying that this SHOULD be a female's role in these shows and movies feels like a pretty messed up thing to do.

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This should have been in reply to Sara 's comment, where she didnt understand how anyone could take offense. But since she's not registered and wouldnt get a notification i guess it doesn't matter.

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but the alternative is true too..
men are not about planting kisses and being drop dead gorgeous with women falling for them just so the female lead can feel some sense of achievement..

where do the princess stories go
what about the whole persona of one devoted, truly in love man image benefits

THe logic can't work one way.. its not that women are portrayed as weak.. women themselves tend to have unnecessary stipulations in life and you can see that in every walk of life - why male celebs earn more? why a hero in a romantic artform more often than not has the same traits (he is capable, charismatic and what not)

And again, if its a superwoman movie, it is a superwoman movie... and ample number of content/ real life/ real life stories exist.. so feminism or debate should come when there is a genuine attack on rights.. otherwise inserting this women angle in everything goes beyond me..

Anyway, like i said, its a vast canvas.. everybody is a nobody somewhere on that canvas... and everybody is everybody atleast in one place on that canvas

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you guys miss the point, everything isn't about feminism
superhero as a genre are about superheroes.. not about humans with supernatural powers..

human relationships are side plot. Every story has its focus area, here it is the fantasy. And in every story, there is a lead character and side characters. You could be side character in someone' s life story, of medium importance or the lead yourself..

this type of heroine does exist - and in realm of the story we see only few facets of her because it is a story afterall.. including her being just a one track devoted one god follower

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It's true, not everything is about gender equality and gender equality isn't a given. This is why the feminist movement must exist and is not obsolete.

You're missing my point. I am merely commenting on the above statement that in the genre of "action/superhero" stories, the female lead's role MUST BE to be a sidekick, nay an accessory (a pot plant, as you will) to the one and only hero.

I don't have a problem with stories that only have one hero as opposed to two. I don't have a problem with the fact that "a" story exists which so happens to follow one man's adventure and all other relationships are of medium importance.

I DO have a problem with the statement that ALL (or most) action/superhero stories must be like this. I have a problem with the suggestion that this is an acceptable format, a blueprint which SHOULD be common and EXPECTED.

I have a problem with the fact that a women's JOB is to be the one pining after the hero and offer the hero with a "smooch reward". This should not be standard.

I get that this is the role that was intended for this character. But I have an issue with the fact that every female character in a superhero show has to be like this. It should NOT be the standard.

It is NOT to be expected that women are one track devoted god followers to their male leads. It is NOT to be expected that women are merely prizes for the superhero male characters.

I don't care if they are a lead character or a side character, women have more depth than that. It is normal for us to expect the slightest expression thereof.

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Since I cant reply to the above Ill reply to this.

The opposite might be true but that was never part of the scope of the discussion.

I was only addressing the issue I saw with the above comment re: a womans supposedly only job in every superhero/action show ever and why people would take offense to that. I think I've said all I have to say as to why this shouldn't be standardly expected for every action movie. And why it is OK to have problems with such a widespread misportrayal of the relationship between men and women.

I.. am not going to comment either on why you think women's issues should not be brought up whem discussing the portrayal in media or worse if you mean the portrayal of women in media is not worth discussing. It is clear I disagree.

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ah ok.. got you there.. had to go back to the main comment so i see how you interpreted it as..

Indeed, a woman's role MUST not be to be the dummy.. if she is.. that's just that story , not a paradigm or not sthg people should convince themselves to observe as a paradigm..

so ya, thanks to all captain marvels directors out there

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Yes, it seems like Hee-ju's character is your 'Heroine who stands by her man' type. Coming off from W---from the writer who made a great sub character arch for the ex-heroine in that series (the one who is supposedly the partner of Chul in the W webtoon but eventually was able to exert agency and will her way into existing separately from the Hero's fate), I was a little sad that HJ's character falls exactly into this character trap. The heroine from W also had a lot of agency in her and had the a complex emotional world up to the very end. I was kind of hoping that we'd get the same amount of depth and agency for Alhambra's heroine.--seeing that Writer-nim is capable of creating such characters. But alas, I think just accepting HJ as a supporting heroine rather than as equal to the Hero is the only thing to do here. That's just how she's sketched.

That said, the gem in this series remains to be the AR plot's ability to stand on its own without the romance. I guess maybe that's really the highlight of it, and the romance is like this little side dish to lighten things up and provide more layer to the Hero. While it's sad for the seekers of strong heroines, I can still appreciate the complex world the writer has created sans romance.

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I agree!! The heroine in W, had to think about many things, risked her reality, sanity, safety, family, and she played important role in the hero's life.

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For me the romance is not necessary either... and it's definitely not a higlight... but I don't mind it... and HJ can be a good Healer for our tired and exhausted hero... and that one person he needs to continue his fight...

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Super agreed! Should stay like Sunshine where there is no single kissing scene. And yet, still works charmly for me 😊.

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Really>? Mr Sunshine had no kissing scene? I didn't finish the show so I don't know. Gonna give it some respect now.

Kissing scenes are almost all fanservice. I am a party pooper on them so I shan't say too much.

I always wonder if kissing is an expression for love in the east the way it has been in the west. Like when I watch a Chinese period drama and the leads kiss -I used to question: do they even do that back then? So kudos to Mr Sunshine!

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Ha! thanks for bringing up this point.
I'd never thought about the origins of kissing and that it’s significance may differ across cultures. Now you got me to look it up. Apparently romantic kissing originated in India very long ago (~1500BC). It made it into Western culture sometime in the middle ages and much later in China/Korea/Japan. In China they did some form of nose kiss on the other person's cheek (?) instead. And even now 10% of the current world population do not kiss at all.

This was a fun read, thanks for prompting it!

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Where did you get this idea about India's romantic kiss origin? Can you provide some kind of reference?

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I think it’s about time that Jin-woo needs the love and support of a woman who genuinely care about him. He had been cheated on by his 2 ex wives with the same guy had got him to hit rock bottom, he felt so defeated and it’s more than he can bear, thank God Hee-joo is with him now. I for one would love to see the romance blossom nicely for these 2. Jin-woo needs Hee-joo to stay sane and composed. As their love grows, I hope Hee-joo would offer to stay with Jin-woo so as to take care of him while Jin-woo would her his bed....that would be just wonderful...

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Really? I can't think of it that way at all. At this point Jin Woo is a drug and game addict, out of a job, twice divorced, with a limp - in addition to being as self centred as always & having lied to her about her missing brother for a whole year. No one would advise Hee Joo to date this guy. At least not until he sorts his life out.

Frankly even Jinwoo seems surprised that she sticks by him. A paragon of virtue - standing selflessly by her man's side. Their history together doesn't support this romantic development (in my opinion). @waadmay made a very interesting point about them simply looking to each other for comfort without any romantic attachments - which would make more sense to me if I didn't see the forced romance.

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ikr. this writer suck at romance and i think she doesn't like writing it either.. it shows. i tend to blame outside pressure on insisting there's a romance plot in every kdrama

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But she wrote QIHM

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I agree with you, there is drama in which it is better that the protagonist only fights without speaking and without pretending to be in love, and this is the case. But did you want to put Shin Hye in a drama without love scenes? His fans were waiting for them and they already hypothesize real loves, it works like that.

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So I actually haven’t had a hard time imagining HJ and JW as a couple. It’s not the best OTP ever, but it’s plausible to me. And for all their flaws, I do really like both of these characters. That being said, the kiss at the end came out of nowhereto me. It felt really unnatural in terms of the dynamic they have had up to this point. And I HATED the precursor to the kiss, the “Prove it.” Um. Excuse me? Physical intimacy on any level is not how you “prove” your faith in or love for someone. I’m sad JW made such a demand and sad HJ fell for it. But it seemed so out of character to me, that I’m just blaming it on the writer.

The banter between HJ and JW related to HJ’s birthday felt much more realistic to me. And I loved it. Actually I thought PHS killed it in that scene: teasing JW, offering to be his GF, was perfectly done. She made HJ vulnerable and a touch embarrassed at herself, but firm and persistent in getting JW to come out. I was really proud of her (HJ and PHS) in that scene.

The server being down left me as disappointed as the recap says, and overall I didn’t like this episode as much as I’ve liked other eps. Better things hopefully to come.

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I have just finished watching the episode and need to sort my thoughts about it... but I think you pretty much summarized how I felt about the kiss (out of nowhere + proving)... and the bday / boyfriend banter (loved it 😍 ... and felt more chemistry from it than from the kiss).

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Thanks for the recap. I miss Sec Seo :( I am waiting impatiently for JW and HJ romance scene to be over. I don't feel any chemistry and don't care. The romance feels forced. I felt the same way about W. Nine Times Nine was so much better and they had awesome chemistry. Not sure if it is the writing or the actors.

I like to have a moment to shamelessly drool over how deliciously handsome HB looked when prof Cha slaps his son in the flashback :)

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Nah, feel the same way too! I haven't watched "Nine", but the romance in "W" was forced.

I don't know, maybe that's how the write usually handles the romance department... In QIHM, she did better... Let's just say it's the writer's style.. :)

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i think the writer actually does not like writing romance and consider it a burden.. and just threw in random romantic scenes here and there to appease the Powers That Be xD

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Yep, even without romance, some dramas are still outstanding. Let's say, Forest of Secrets.

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Let’s not just focus on the kissing scene alone but what had led Jin-woo to say “prove it “ to Hee-joo. Prior to this, CEO Park was screaming at him over the phone telling him to leave Korea, accusing him of being addicted to the game, that he was being unrealistic and insane, that he (Park) is no longer on his (JW) side and had stopped believing in him. And if all that isn’t bad enough, Park told him that Hyung-seok slept with his 2nd ex wife too.

“Prove it” has lots of meaning there. By now he knows and would see that Hee-joo cares for him. He probably wanted Hee-joo to prove that she believes in him, that he isn’t insane or as crazy as what CEO Park said about him. Jin-woo said to Hee-joo that as long as 1 person believes in him, he won’t leave Korea and he wanted Hee-joo to prove it...

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I didn't catch that Hyung-seok slept with his second wife too. OMG, what's wrong with him? Se-ju also said he's evil, so apparently he's indeed evil. I would like to think he acted that way because of his father, he's the victim of his father ruthless and vicious actions and decisions. But apparently his moral was really questionable. I really don't want to hate Cha Hyung-seok, after feeling sorry for him for the last 12 episodes.

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heol. did Director's Park told JW Hyung-seok slept with Yu-ra?

i thought he just told JW that Yu-ra did met with Prof Cha and who knows what they're both planning.

i might miss it.. need to watch it again.

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Park told Jin-woo that Hyung-seok met up a few times with Yu-ra. My first impression was that she slept with him since she’s so flighty like a loose woman. Hyung-seok never fully trusted Soo-Jin and feared that she might return to Jin-woo, so he’s obsessively jealous of Jin-woo and would frequently check on Jin-woo thru Yu-ra. So what actually went on between Hyung-seok and yu-ra will left to be seen later on.

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I wonder if people would have so many complains about the romance or the couple if this was a pair of favorite actors they would love to see on screen, lol. I for one, like the slow pace of this week like the recapper said, cause I am so tired of seeing a game occupying so much of screen time on a kdrama lol. It's nice while you're playing it like I would love it personally if I get to play the game and experience it myself. But when they show the game and jin woo fighting with swords/ guns/ fire, I feel like I'm watching the live game shows on youtube lol. And I am really tired of it. It's disappointing in the sense that the game basically doesn't show us much like it's just scenarios and all we get to do is stare at it. It doesn't project much more than what it shows. At least even on W, the main concept had more dimensions since it was a whole other world altogether, and the hero had to realize what was going on. But if the writer here intended to show a game for half of the episode then I wish she thought about it more about the concept and the execution of it.
Coming back to the topic, yeah, by now I can see that on every drama, kissing scenes are more like fan service. But like you, I loved the normal, mundane conversations of this episode, and it was good to see jin woo living a normal life after a while. The last time we saw him doing that was on episode 1 or 2 I think lol, when he had to drag his suitcase from the ground floor to the top floor at the shabby hotel of Granada. Also, it's good that his friend is pushing him to the edge cause this way he has the time to rethink about his future plans and realize that he can't do all these alone. Besides, the time he spends playing the game makes him more detached from the other characters of the drama, and it's a strange feeling. I mean I feel alienated, kind of? Don't know if this makes any sense lol.

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PSH really triggers her antis. She's not the best actress in Korea, but she's no different from other popular starlet in kdramas. I've seen too many complains about her since the first episodes.

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The kiss scene makesense to me and it's probably one of the best from Hyun Bin. LoL haters hating the slow burn kiss scene because it's Park Shin Hye. I bet if it's their bias they'll be rejoicing and drooling though the kiss scene makesense or not. I enjoy reading all the bitter comments. Hyun Bin and Park Shin Hye have very very little chemistry on the screen but you can feel he's at it with her throw his kiss and the way he starred at her. Unlike his famous hit drama where it's full of explosive chemistry on the screen but one can feel it's all just acting. I have never finished any drama of Park Shin Hye because she really need more acting skills. Her acting is very unnatural when she cry and trying to be cute in all her drama.

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I don't think JW has an obsession for the AR game itself but he wants to find the little brother and understand the death of his friend and his secretary. You can see how the lost of those persons is affecting him deeply.

Professor Cha is a real snake! I really want someone to crush him. I like the new CEO Park. He's balancing between the compagny (and all the workers) and his friend, it's not an easy situation. But he's trying his best.

For the couple, it was pretty predictable. I like them together, we can see the flirty side of Hyun Bin :D Now I'm not invested in this couple but I think they have a good chemistry and I liked the kiss. I'm still more interested in the running of the game.

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I loved everything about this episode. My fav so far. I saw a lot of people online complaining about how "horrible" the kiss was because of PSH but as someone who has watched all her dramas, I can honestly say this is her best kiss yet.

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I think the kiss was fine... but as @anothernicole said, it felt out of nowhere... what's a pity, because I thought they were building up nicely with the banter... (so I was more expecting a tired Wolf on a lap of Red Riding Hood 😁).

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He kinda needed that kiss to feel alive again e step out from the black hole he was in. His life is a mess, and he needs her as a safe harbor. I've seen worse reasons from romances in dramas so i'm okay with them.

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*Uses profanity herself directly against another commenter*, proceeds to wonder what happened to this site. Funny how you complain about sexism here but I don’t see you commenting about how PSH bad kissing commentary has heavily misogynistic undertones. Did my comment perhaps hit you too close home? I meant no body shaming or sexism with my comment but the SJWs on internet wanna pick on everything

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I support the sentiment, though not the way it is expressed.

There's this saying I heard recently in relation to internet trolls and other such species:
Never mud-wrestle with a pig. The pig will enjoy it, and you will just get dirty.

Bringing down discussions to the lowest denominator does not help anyone. Let's keep it civilized.

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I have zero patience for someone who insults middle-age women on a website where they're probably the highest demographic like it's 4chan. being civil is for civilized discussion which this most definitely can't be.

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Thanks @dilnazdilruba
I'm glad you stopped by to justify LS' response to your misogynism. I note it took you approximately 5 seconds to resort to disgusting sexual slurs and gendered insults.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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I take offence at the implication I'm a housewife.

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Actual real live ugly fat housewife here. And I don’t think the problem with the show is how PSH kisses, but rather how the writer writes and the director directs.

In the future, I would prefer you to not make sweeping derogatory statements about me and my kind. We are not homogeneous either in our person or in our opinions. I thank you in advance for taking a look at yourself and your preconceived notions and ageist prejudices.

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Wow, so many things to track here. I'm fat but beyond middle-aged and not ugly; have never ridiculed PSH's kissing although it's made me cringe, does that mean I have preconceived notions about her kissing? Mostly I don't think about it BUT feel sure there IS something that would change said notions right smartly, and that is PSH acting like she wants to fucking kiss back. Sheeeesh 🤦🏻‍♀️

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I want to clarify that I am responding to @dilnazdilruba's comment, and not Chingumode. sorry Chingu.

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Thanks @egads I admit I was a bit worried for a moment. Mostly because you are awesome and I wouldn't want to imply otherwise.
I was of course sarcastically agreeing that I was fat and middle-aged - and so what?

I'd love to hear the specific age and appearance attributes that a woman needs to embody before her opinion becomes worth something. It'd be really helpful for future reference.

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1. you seem to think the term Social Justice Warrior is an insult. Nope, it's not.
2. old and fat are not insults either, they are states of being
3. the term retarded used as a prejorative reveals the state of your intellect and emotional majority, and using it on a site like DB that prides itself on a its welcoming and inclusive community, you might want to reconsider how you phrase your responses in the future.
3. An website does not have to be a well of insults and hate.

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This site is not that kind of internet.

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@mary I think I need to tag you for this.

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Yeah, I was wondering what happened to this site.

I've never come across so much profanities. So it looks like my previous experience was the hand of a DB angel who got rid of the troll and not some automated filter thing.

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Unbelievable, there was a real fight on DB? How did this ugly reality leak here?

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Ugly, fat middle aging housewives- Lookism, body shaming, ageist, sexist. Ah, wear those badges with a proud face, honey. Sorry, it's monsoon season here ⛈and there's a lot of puddles everywhere, and I stepped on a cat's shit🐱 this morning, and I scraped that shit in one of the watery puddles. And I think, that puddle is more pure and less shallow than your comments. Also by your logic, a good-looking, not fat and a man with a career who loves PSH's kiss scenes is better😎. Great, Ted Bundy is so happy to hear that! Lucky you, kyaaa~😍

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I agree that the execution wasn't bad. PSH is improving.

But I feel like Hee-Ju is really getting the short end of the stick in this romance. Like, JW may have needed someone to comfort him in that moment, but did HJ really want her first kiss to be right after a guy has basically told her he has no family and everyone has turned against him? Then he asks her to prove that she's on his side. That's not romance. That's duress.

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Filler episode again with not much answers and even more questions 🤷🏻‍♀️. I still think ep 1-4 were good and ep 5-11 are filler. Bring it on ep 12!

What i noticed from this ep:
Judging from how well rested with no jetlag whatsoever after travelling to and from Seoul and Granada,
1. They can all teleport
2. They have superhuman skills
3. Theres doraemon and his magic door amongst them
4. The writer thought Spain and Korea are neighbouring countries.

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“The writer thought Spain and Korea are neighbouring countries.” 😂 i did wonder at one point if it didn’t take longer to fly between Korea and Spain.

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It is supposed to be a 17-30hour flight between seoul-granada.
But we ain't got time for real world facts in this drama. Let's move Spain to Japan's location for easier travels with no time difference 😅

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That right! "We ain't got time for real-world facts!" 😂😂

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Are you sure they move Spain to Japan? To me, it’s more likely they move Granada to Incheon Airport. Hahahahaha i’m laughing so hard read your comment.

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Oho. This would be very cost effective and also saves travelling time👍🏻

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Hooooo, that First Class must be a wonderful thing! I was thinking it must be the only time Jin Woo gets any sleep.

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JW is so rich he wastes his money on useless longhaul flights when he could just call to restart the server 🤷🏻‍♀️. But yeah maybe that's the only time he can sleep.

But wait..i thought JW was afraid of flights. Cause he doesnt know what he's gonna do if zombies appear. Was not this the reason for the crying-HJ-train-chasing-in-high-heels scene? Or was that for tears only?

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i guess when he refuse to take flight from Granada to Barcalona last time.. is because he might thought that the zombie/NPC will follow him everywhere. instead, the NPC only will appear in Seoul and Granada because the servers located in these two places. he found out this when he fought on the train last time..

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Meaning to say he will be fine if he just migrates to another country? Haha

But nope. Zombie cha still appeared in US 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Ok I’ll delete this comment from here and post the comment on the episode 12 recap. Thanks for the heads up!

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...like me, for example? 🙂
This is a general note: Not everyone can follow the airing schedule... and I find it a pity when I have to avoid reading the comment section from fear of being spoiled...

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And apparently not everyone can type as fast as others 😁
Thanks @dilnazdilruba for solving it in the meantime.

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And i thought it wont be possible but my sympathy towards JW and his game struggles is thinning to non-existance.

I have minimal sympathy for him as of ep11. I do find HB's acting sad impeccable but i don't find myself caring for JW anymore after this ep, even more after he did not meet Seo's family (where's your decency, you are not a game character), when he went bonkers and start hitting his staff, when he return as an alcoholic and after his self centered speech with HJ at the end.

I don't see how JW can make a comeback in real life. His character has been beaten to the ground with facts: he was hospitalised in the US and heavily dependent an medication, he then refused the medication, he is an alcoholic, he was found in a forbidden place in a major tourist attraction etc2. JW might see it as its not his fault, but it does not change the fact that these things did happened.

I think JW chose this route by not being transparent enough with his workers or with anyone. He could have formed allies with all his workers from the get-go to combat whatever error there is in the game. His steadfastness to find SJ is just meh, theres no emotional connection to it. He wants to end the game but refuses help from others. And look at what happened in between: Seo is dead and his life is in shambles.

Writernim i hope you have a great ending that will actually make narrative sense.

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Hello everyone I'd like you to meet my new best friend, Jeffrey the Game. He's serial killer but it's fine. He didn't mean it. We get along really great. We have lots of the same interests and friends and we can talk ALLL NIGHT. It's so much fun. I hope you can all be friends with him too!!!!!

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OMG I love this drama so much. Finally Hyun Bin has another drama that I can actually called it's his best besides The Snow Queen. I hope he get recognized for this drama because it's his second best I have seen. I only remember him as Han Tae Woong though I've seen all his works from dramas to films. Now I can see him as Yoo Jin Woo because he really own the character.

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Agreed... Snow queen was awesome and this too

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Right on but you forgot My Name IS Kim Sam Soon. That's one of his most outstanding drama. My Name Is Kim Sam Soon, The Snow Queen, and Memories of Alhambra are his best to date drama. While his other dramas are good but not memorable.

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Oh dear this thread is gonna get out of hand real fast...

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Yep, rabid fanbase to the rescue everytime someone dare to criticize Hallyu star latest effort.

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I don't view this show as a romance. I don't even think Hee-ju is a main character. It obviously is Jinwoo story through and through. It's pretty interesting if you play video games too, since most of them really revolve around the main character and the main character only, which is similar to here. I wish Hee-ju had more of a role, perhaps a badass heroine, but oh well.

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@Sara I find this insightful. Maybe that's what this show is about. In any single-player game, the player is the main character who's to make all the decisions and take action himself and the only character of note to whom things are done and to whom come rewards. Jin Woo has chosen to be in a single-player game although he could have been in a multi-player game. He may condescend to have an ally, but really he wants to call all the shots and to solve the quest himself. This show is written both literally and figuratively from this perspective of an (addicted?) player. 😔

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??? How could he be in a multi player game when the game wasn't even released (and only a few people know about it) when he first played it. He didn't want any more allies because he was scared other people will suffer the same fate as secretary seo.

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Hmm... very emotional episode, was definitely crying during the parts when Jin Woo was remembering Jeong Hun. Really one of my favourite characters and I am still so sad about what has happened to him.

One part of this episode that was really telling for me was just seeing the difference in Jin Woo now and the Jin Woo just a few episodes ago thru the flashbacks. In the flashbacks, he looks so noticeably lighter (in terms of mood), younger, healthier... and now, we can see how much of everything has taken a toll on him.

I definitely am still very engaged in this show, but I think it is best when we are in the game world and engaged with Jin Woo and his staff related to the game and the quest. But unfortunately, real life does not stop outside of that, which is why I think so much of this episode focused on that. I don't watch previews for the next episodes but just really wondering what will happen in episode 12...

Thank you very much for the recap!

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I agree - I really like the flashback of secretary. Some people found it confusing but I thought it was nicely edited in. There was little doubt that it was a flashback in Jin woo memory. Particularly love how Jin woo looked grossed out and said “are you in love with me” I mean outwardly he was grossed out but I think he really knew that the guy was fond of him and cared. It really showcased how low he had sunk losing the only person who was at that time standing by him

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I actually found HJ pushing herself onto JW a bit annoying. If the roles were reversed I'd call chauvinism but honestly I was uncomfortable with how she insisted on staying in his house despite him repeatedly telling her to leave. I don't understand on what grounds she thought she had the authority to do make that decision but its a drama so I shouldn't expect much logic and just pretend romance is the answer I guess.

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This thing about her personality is also what gets on my nerves. And it was exactly what happened in an earlier episode when JW kept telling her to leave for her birthday celebration, and she kept wanting to stay. If I were telling someone to leave, I rather they respected my wishes and left, especially if I'm not feeling well/am not in the mood to really argue. It just seems really disrespectful and reeks of "I know better than you" which I dislike. And I agree, if it were a man doing it to a woman, it'd be seen as chauvinism.

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She is a caregiver - if you look at her history, she took care of her family and it is in her nature to take care of people around her, including JW. So that is how I think of her, she was following her natural instincts to help him recover...

But now her caregiving instincts have fallen prey to his glorious dimples and she lost. sigh.

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Yet she failed to take care of her closest person, her forgotten little brother.

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oops @hun94 you nailed it and called me out correctly!
I was thinking 'caregiver' instead of 'sister'.

Thank you!!! I keep trying to give her the benefit of the doubt but yes she should be a caregiver/sister/family to her brother.
sigh......

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true true!! to me, the whole aspect of her completely disregarding Sejoo's existence (if he's still alive that is) is a major character flaw and i can't bring myself to like her no matter how hard i try .. it's a shame really

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Watching Jin-woo this eps felt strongly like deja vu. Him hitting another bottom with another of his friend's death weighing his consciousness, everyone who matters turning their back on him, and the return of his reliance on alcohol reminded me strongly of events on eps 5. At first I was baffled with the way Jin-woo used the game, the quest, and his need to level up as if those were the lifeline that'll save him. But then with the reminder of how he has lost everything, I think I can understand his desperate need to be proven right regarding what people assumed as his grand delusions, to be useful by finding Se-joo and solve whatever problem there is in the game, and to finally be in control of his own life again. The thing is, the game didn't give him any room to breathe or think clearly. Which I think is exactly why he can be so blind of the possible trap in that quest. Because unless Se-joo is following logic that I couldn't understand, it didn't make any sense that he demanded his would-be rescuer to level up that much (far higher than his own current level) just to find him.

Given how physically and emotionally exhausted Jin-woo is, I actually don't mind the early development of his newest relationship with Hee-joo. I mostly saw him trying to reject her concern as a mirror to his early days with Secretary Seo. He desperately wanted to have someone besides him, but he couldn't, in good conscience, drag these people into his crazy world. And yet, it clearly means so much for him that they chose to stay. I think that's exactly why I found the scenes between Hee-joo and Jin-woo at his home crackled with unexplainable tension, and it's fascinating to watch. I can see how the combination of Hee-joo's willingness to stay and the latest bad news about possible police investigation made Jin-woo suddenly clung to her and demanded a kiss proof like she is the newest lifeline he found. But unfortunately, just like what I predicted last week, I still couldn't understand why Hee-joo would want to devote herself in this kind of "love".

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I keep wondering, is it something so simple as how utterly gobsmacked HJ looked at the first sight of JW, combined with what Min Ju told us about her sister easily falling in love? Maybe there is no deep motivation for this so far undeep character and her response to Jin Woo.

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Love is love and there’s no easy explanation why people just fall in love, so let’s just enjoy the ride here watching these 2 falling in love...😅

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Totally agreed! When I watched Hee Joo crying at the moment Jin Woo left of the train a year ago in Granada, I knew it that I don’t need romance in this drama. No need at all. Beside, everyone who have been following this drama & not miss any episodes also can see that they don’t have any chemistry at all to be a lover.

But to be a friend & companion especially for the quest in search for Se Joo maybe and highly recommend that they do it together especially after Sec Seo’s death. If they remove the lovey dovey part, this drama will be doing just fine.

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the banter about being his girlfriend was much better than them actually becoming bf/gf...i wish they'd just stay friends because they both have too much baggage to be in a relationship with anyyyone.

that being said this episode was much more peaceful and much more boring than the other eps, which was good for my heart rate, bad for my interest.

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i wish they'd just stay friends because they both have too much baggage to be in a relationship with anyyyone."

Totally. They have way too much baggage to sort through first and just don't have the emotional capacity to deal with any romance right now. Especially JW, seeing his day-to-day existence exhausts me and I don't think anyone with that kind of life has space for romance.

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I know people don't care about the music. I do. They use these romantic songs as background for the weirdest moments. That kiss was one of the strangest kisses of dramaland. Maybe PSH chose this based on that. She has a reputation to keep. :P Ok, not blaming her here!
This should have been the story of JW going mad, maybe finding redemption at the end. Instead we have to keep going round and round trying to understand the game and believe a bad romance.

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I care about BGM too! I think it can make or break a scene. I too feel that in this drama, alot of romantic songs are used for strange scenes to make us feel something.. but honestly I don't feel it. No amount of music is gonna make me feel their nonexistent chemistry lol. Yes kiss was also really strange. The sudden-ness and lead up to it and the whole scene itself. Felt so off and like JW was just using her in the moment. "Maybe PSH chose this based on that" - rofl! I don't blame her too but even then the kiss was really meh, seen HB kiss better elsewhere. I think we were supposed to feel like it was so damn swoony - he dropped his cane and grabbed her waist, she dropped her brolly after being so mesmerised by his lips, they were all wet standing in the rain, but i was like yeahhh ok next pls.

"This should have been the story of JW going mad, maybe finding redemption at the end. Instead we have to keep going round and round trying to understand the game and believe a bad romance." Yes so much. I find it really hard to keep up with the rules of the game. The game itself has become so evil and out of control, and JW so crazy that I don't see any redemption. I don't know how the writer is gonna find a closure for these two main arcs of the drama. I don't really see JW recovering for a long time unless he leaves everything behind and goes to the South pole or sth for awhile to chill (pls dont make HJ be his reason for his redemption), and I don't know how anyone can save this insane game except just stopping investing in it and shutting it all down.

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Exactly. They think it's romantic, it should have been awkward. If the music playing was not sweet and if they had not started dropping anything, I would have liked it. The romance between them is rather odd, he talks to her like she is a little girl, it would have been more than fitting to have them feel attraction but be clumsy at first. He was being controlling and insecure, she should have just pushed him away after a few seconds.

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He talked to her as he is; an experienced, mature, twice divorced, filthy rich, worldly wise and a smooth talker who once had managed a $$multi-billion corporation but unfortunately got ousted and betrayed by those he loved. On the other hand, she responded as she is; an inexperienced, never been kissed, never been dated and who is definitely a virginal maiden who is also falling in love for the first time. 😂
So he wasn’t controlling nor is he being insecure, he just knew his position and understood hers.

Anyway it’s just a drama, let’s enjoy the ride while it lasts, only 5 more episodes to go...

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@abz008 I agree completely with the character's personalities. :)
I said he was being insecure because he knows everything about the differences between them, and this girl has already done plenty to prove she believes him or likes him. It's cheap and manipulative to say what he said. He is usually more classy than that.

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Mte. If they kissed without the song/items dropping I'd have been a little more ok. It is odd! I've never been comfy with their romance cos it's between a man with so much life and work experience vs a woman who is the literal opposite. Lucky for her, he never takes advantage of her in weird ways but he still uses her in some ways nonetheless, and her actions always signal that she's ok with it. He does talk to her like a little girl!! he really does. he treats her like one as well. Anyway never felt that their rlshp was ever equal or ever gonna be, and the kiss played out that inequality. He wanted to have his way, hence the controlling and insecure way he kissed her, and she allowed him to have his way as always. But we know this girl is rather thirsty for him lol.

I never Also, I think Hyun Bin/Jin woo has more chemistry with the actress playing his first wife. Like you can feel the tension/slight longing for what could have been/how it came to this.

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Oh. And i think he deserved to be slapped by someone after his temper tantrum to open the servers. He was just off the rails, incomprehensible. He had to be slapped to return to his senses. And prof Cha was the best one to do it at that point of time, since he is older and the other ones there were just Jone's minions. Ahaha

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He deserved a slap so many times in this episode. When he pushed aside the police man's helping hand when they saved his read end. He was trespassing illegally in a foreign country with no permission. He should be arrested for that. There was the tantrum( which we can forgive marginally for being desperate) and then him with HJ. But when Prof Cha slapped him, I actually felt sorry for him. He looked so lifeless.

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*rear end..that's what auto correct does when you want to be discrete about ass calling :)

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Seriously, he was slapped twice 😱
I mean, I’m not sure if it’s cultural or something but it’s kinda rude to slap someone (other than your kids or your unfaithful partner ahem)

But I kinda love the way jin woo reacted to it. He’s so rock bottom he doesn’t care
He did cross the line by hurting his staff

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That was the most manipulative lead-up to a kiss ever. Even when he’s broke he’s still arrogant 😀

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Yes. Arrogance is one of his main traits. He can't hide it even if he tried. Hahaha

Just look at how arrogant he is pursuing this game alone when he could have asked for help from his workers. Hua3

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I know we are not supposed to like manipulative male dominated characters but I found that very sexy LOL (crawls to the corner and repent)

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Hi there...*beams at you from the corner of the corner*

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lololol

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Ummm, please scoot over @stardust. I need to join you in the corner. Lol. I didn't love the whole kiss scenario but moments of bad behavior can be hot. The scene when he was yelling at everybody in the server room was my highlight of this episode. Please give me a stern Hyun Bin any day!

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i doubt he is broke just yet though.

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It was a masterful kiss, and he kissed her like I imagined he would ( I have a powerful imagination when it comes to Hyun Bin and his dimples). He kissed her masterfully. It wasn't the best kiss that I've seen in a drama (Suspicious Partner left me gasping for that wonderful kiss), but it was good enough. PSH did well enough, she didn't react like a lamp post and she looked like she was feeling the emotional impact of being kissed by the man that she's head over heels for, and that was great, because nothing kills the mood faster than a pair of lips clamped determinedly shut against an ardent kisser's seeking lips. So he threw away his cane, and she cast aside her umbrella. They kissed in the rain, and it was sweet. Oh, and I love Hee Ju in this episode - I've loved her throughout - but I especially love the scene where he wakes up and she's there, and she's been there throughout, waiting for him...she's a gentle, good person, and is so strong in moments that he's at his weakest, and she's going to make him well again. Hang in there, Dimples.

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React like a lamp post . Laughed at that

Reminds me of another comment i read here by a recapper
Was it City hall !!!

Something about a lips clamped shut than a radiator valve

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Thanks @dramallama.
I was impressed by Hee Ju's rapid-fire Spanish, but native speakers will have to confirm if what she said was right grammatically?

Poor HJ. I was trying to imagine the show if she was not in it, and if it was possible that a brotherly fondness for Min Ju instead could have moved Jin Woo to take care of himself. I could actually see it working for me.

I was confused by the sequence of Sec Seo crying in hospital (a problem in the editing??). It was not evident that it was a memory, and I was hoping that it was the reality: hoping that all that had happened after JW left the hospital had been a dream of his fevered mind, made unstable by the game that merged the virtual with the real too well. Then Sec Seo would have been alive to be married a year later.

So what you said about Prof Cha resonates: "He’s malicious, capricious, and mercilessly haunts people with their past. He’s basically the AR game in human form, and I’m intrigued by that mirroring in both realities. Professor Cha’s suspicions and Director Park’s frustrations about Jin-woo planted a tiny seed of doubt that Jin-woo is an unreliable narrator, ..." - yes it resonates with that thought... what's the reality?

We only know what's happening from JW's perspective, but is he of sound mind? 😵 Is he asleep and dreaming? 😣 Was/is he always in virtual reality? 😰 Is he a real person? 😐

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It could be a long nightmare, and the drama concludes with him waking up on the way to Granada to seal his deal with Hee Ju's brother. I would be really, really mad if this is the case.

Another thing to note, he's talking to someone...is it us or someone else?

If Jin woo is not real, this means that this entire drama is a hoax, and I would be really, really mad. I have invested so much time in his dimples, I have cried for him, and swooned over him. He'd better be real 😬😬😬😬

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Good point...about who is he talking too!

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The whole scene with Sec Seo for me was to add pain to the viewers and to remind us that he's no longer alive T_T I agree there was a problem with the editing though.

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Your conjectures are not bad too

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LOL. It's just fun to throw out ideas and see what others may think. Reading their ideas is fun too! There are many creative thinkers/writers in our Beanie community. 😍

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A filler episode that showed the ruthlessness of Professor Cha. Is he greedy? Vengeful? Or is his pride wounded? What’s driving him y’all

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SIGH, whatever haha, I'm in it until the bitter end. It was a solid kiss and as mentioned earlier it comes out of nowhere. They have seen each other I believe at the most 7 days in the full year and some change they have know of each other. I believe at least 3 of those Hyun Bin was sleeping. but whatever.

This drama has a pacing issue. It comes and goes back in time at will and ignores movement. A great many of the thread were and are irrelevant. They could have spent time with character development for the other characters.

But continue on!! HA.

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Hahaha. Spot on. The pacing is all over the place and the time jumps dont make it easier to follow.

This is so funny "They have seen each other I believe at the most 7 days in the full year and some change they have know of each other. I believe at least 3 of those Hyun Bin was sleeping. but whatever." Lol!

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It's the dimples. They're spellbinding. A day with those dimples is equivalent to a decade's worth of staying power. So 7 days = 7 × 10 = 70 years in EIOB aka Emotional Impact on Braincells.

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This is fair, I recently discovered that I could watch it on Netflix on my HD TV and he is better looking on HD. So I understand, ha.

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It's the two episode per week problem I noticed, first episode is a lot of time filler, and second one deliver some action and cliffhanger, and make me question writers ability if they can't fill 16 episode story arc, how much of the story they have at all.

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Watching this show with super low expectations is the best way to enjoy it. This writer burned me with W so I'm just here to see how all the nonsense goes down lol. I'm not sure if there will be a pay off in the end but I'm here for all of it lol

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You are right, I need to quit thinking and just watch the pretty.

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