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Memories of the Alhambra: Episode 13

Our hero finally lets others into the AR world, though he keeps them at a distance because getting too close could get them killed. Despite the adverse consequences, he has no other choice but to invite others into his reality, and that buys him the necessary time to proceed with the quest. With the help of his few remaining allies, Jin-woo also discovers some answers, and it’s just the impetus he needs to continue the quest to find Se-joo.

  
EPISODE 13 RECAP

It’s the day before Jin-woo’s interrogation, and Yang-joo sneaks out of the company to meet Jin-woo at the PPL Subway. Jin-woo asks Yang-joo to develop more special items for when the server reopens, and Yang-joo initially refuses because of his busy schedule preparing for the upcoming showcase.

Jin-woo asks for Yang-joo to help out of loyalty and insists that his life depends on it. He manages to charm Yang-joo over to his side and agrees to Yang-joo’s terms to make him vice president if Jin-woo starts a new company.

As Yang-joo munches on Jin-woo’s sandwich, he notices Jin-woo receiving a call from Hee-joo and asks if they’re dating. When Jin-woo refuses to answer, Yang-joo correctly assumes that they’re dating and throws a fuss that NPC Emma (alter ego Hee-joo) is his favorite character. Jin-woo looks amused and asks if he should apologize.

Jin-woo buys more sandwiches for heartbroken Yang-joo and the team, and before he leaves, Yang-joo mentions that Emma has a special skill. Through giddy conversation with Emma, Yang-joo learned that users could gain experience and recovery points — something Jin-woo already learned in Granada — but in addition to that, no battles could happen in a 20-meter radius of Emma. She would make the weapons disappear.

Yang-joo presumes that Emma’s placement in Café Alcazaba (the game user gathering spot) was intentional and that she played the role of peacekeeper. Later during their date night, Jin-woo asks Hee-joo if she has any connection to Café Alcazaba, and she explains that she used to work there. She was close with the former owner and would perform classical guitar occasionally.

As we see Jin-woo’s first encounter with Emma at Café Alcazaba, he narrates: “Our beginning may have been here at the place, where it rains and thunders 365 days a year and music of Memories of Alhambra flows. Strictly speaking, it may have begun with Emma.”

In a flashback at Café Alcazaba, we see Se-joo refusing Marco’s deal and timidly claiming 70% of the earnings when they sell the game because he did most of the work. Marco looks irritated and warns Se-joo not to provoke him by requesting the larger proportion again.

Se-joo nervously follows Marco to the bathroom and threatens to not the sell the game if Marco doesn’t agree to his terms. Picking at his fingers, Se-joo insists on meeting Hyung-seok himself, and Marco belittles him, knowing that Se-joo would just stutter in the meeting.

When Marco returns from the bathroom, they’re still waiting for Hyung-seok to arrive at the café. Marco pretends to check his phone and then stabs Se-joo in the torso. As he digs the knife deeper, Marco seethes that Se-joo better stop acting up before he kills him in front of his sister (NPC Emma).

Jin-woo narrates that Marco injuring Se-joo in real life in front of Emma had consequences, and we see a wave run through the game interface, causing the NPC characters to freeze.

Marco looks annoyed by the glitch, and Se-joo uses that window to run out of the café, clutching his side. Marco follows him out with the knife, and the wave through the game interface runs through the alleyway as well. Frightened Se-joo crawls away on the ground, and when Marco lunges toward him, Se-joo shoots him with a gun.

At the gunshot, Marco caves in pain and sees his hand covered in blood. He curses Se-joo for shooting with a real gun, but Se-joo shakes his head. He puts the gun down, and we see that it’s a game weapon. Se-joo just barely escapes as Marco whips out his gun to chase down Se-joo.

Meanwhile, Hyung-seok waits at the café, where unfrozen Emma performs classical guitar. He’s stood up by the two game developers, who have somehow corrupted the game. Jin-woo narrates that Emma may be the only witness to how the two disappeared.

In Jin-woo’s hotel room, Hee-joo finds Emma playing the guitar and slowly approaches her. She looks at NPC Emma curiously as we hear Jin-woo’s request for Hee-joo to meet with Emma. Hee-joo sees Emma through the game lenses and greets her. Emma stops her performance and looks to Hee-joo with a smile.

As the servers turn back on, Jin-woo seems hopeful that they still have an opportunity to continue the quest, but as he thinks back to his near-death experience in the dungeon, he wonders if he’ll survive this time.

We return to Jin-woo’s confrontation with Professor Cha, who logs into the game and looks alarmed by the sudden thunderstorm. Jin-woo instructs Professor Cha on how to survive: stay away from Jin-woo, leave Seoul, and delete the user ID immediately.

Jin-woo tells Professor Cha that the server must remain open until he finishes the quest and finds a resolution. He also restricts all users except for himself and those with his permission, and he tells Professor Cha to follow orders to avoid bankruptcy.

Then, Professor Cha sees the game notification that an enemy has arrived. He swivels around and spots NPC Hyung-seok approaching Jin-woo. Unable to believe his eyes, tearful Professor Cha calls out to Hyung-seok, causing the NPC to shift his target. NPC Hyung-seok marches to Professor Cha, and just as he lifts his sword, Jin-woo shoots him dead.

NPC Hyung-seok slumps down in front of Professor Cha, and his cold dead eyes look directly at his father. The dead NPC disappears before Professor Cha’s eyes, and Jin-woo instructs him to call for his car to leave campus. Jin-woo shoots down the game enemies as he walks toward Professor Cha without his cane, his leg still healed in the game. He hands Professor Cha his phone with one hand and proceeds to shoot an approaching enemy with his other hand without even turning. So badass.

Professor Cha rushes to the elevator and holds onto the rails, as Jin-woo tells the driver to escort Professor Cha to his home in Pyeongchang immediately. Breathing heavily, Professor Cha takes out the contacts in his eyes and braces himself in the elevator.

When Professor Cha exits the building, he’s shocked to find more enemies materializing in front of him. He flails as they approach him, but they’re shot down. Professor Cha turns around to find Jin-woo with a sniper gun, defending Professor Cha as he makes his way to safety.

Jin-woo continues to shoot down the enemies as Professor Cha runs to his car, but he’s unable to stop an enemy from slicing Professor Cha’s arm. Professor Cha yells in pain and crawls into the car, ordering his driver to leave quickly, while Jin-woo continues to defeat the hoard of enemies attacking him.

In the car, Professor Cha winces in pain as blood runs down his arm. He remembers Jin-woo’s warning that they now share a fate as allies — they will live and die together until the end. As they leave Seoul, the game notifies Professor Cha that he’s out of bounds, which causes his game to pause and his wound to heal.

At a rest stop, Professor Cha calls the company and orders for his user ID to be deleted immediately. He also orders the server to remain open, despite not having Director Park’s approval. Still shaken from the attack, Professor Cha remembers Jin-woo’s healed leg in the game and Director Park’s claim that on all surveillance cameras, Jin-woo still had his limp (hmm interesting).

While under attack, Professor Cha asked Jin-woo how this could be, and Jin-woo numbly responded that he’s been asking that same question for the past year. Professor Cha distresses over the reality of this game refuting everything he’s known to believe.

After smiling for the cameras in a CF shoot, Yu-ra irately returns to her dressing room and finds her manager watching the news on Jin-woo’s absence for the police interrogation. Only Soo-jin has showed up for questioning, and when she’s told about Jin-woo’s absence, she looks worried.

Jin-woo calls Yang-joo for information on where to find the high-level enemies because he needs to level up quickly. Yang-joo scolds Jin-woo for playing the game at a time like this, when Jin-woo is the talk of the nation. Students on campus taking videos of Jin-woo as he shoots down an enemy as he gets into his car, and Jin-woo reminds Yang-joo that his life depends on defeating the game.

When Jin-woo comes to a stop light, he sees a crowd of level-1 enemies materialize around his car and approach him menacingly. Just as they surround his car, he receives a map from Yang-joo with the pinned locations of high-level enemies, and he speeds off to level up.

Director Park goes directly from the airport to meet Professor Cha in his hideout spot, and he carefully asks for an update. Professor Cha doesn’t acknowledge Director Park and remains still in his chair until he reluctantly admits that he ran away in fear of Hyung-seok.

Director Park finally realizes that Jin-woo was telling the truth about the hallucinations, but Professor Cha can’t get himself to verbally acknowledge the truth. When Director Park tries to order the shutdown of the server, Professor Cha stops him and says that Jin-woo chose to resolve the problems this way.

Frantic about Jin-woo’s reality, Director Park urges Professor Cha to halt the reinvestigation, since Jin-woo is innocent. But Professor Cha says that he’s come too far. He’s betrayed himself.

In bedrest, Grandma watches the news of Jin-woo’s absence at the interrogation and public spottings of him in the city. She worriedly asks Hee-joo if Jin-woo has really gone mad.

Hee-joo flips through her notes from her time as a guide at Alhambra and tries to call Jin-woo, but he doesn’t answer. She remembers how Jin-woo looked like he was really in pain from the game injury, and she worriedly heads out to find him. Hee-joo calls Yang-joo to confirm his location and that they’re the only two users logged into the game.

After parking her car, Hee-joo follows the game GPS through Myeongdong and enters a restaurant to find Jin-woo. He’s drinking alone and smiles (with his swoony dimple) at her, unsurprised. He knew he was on her way and lightly scolds her for ignoring his request to only use the game in his hotel room.

Hee-joo looks more concerned with all the injuries that she now sees through the game interface and cries. Jin-woo isn’t fazed by her reaction and tells her to sit down, since everyone in the restaurant is starting to recognize him. He asks her to accompany him while he takes a break and assures her that he’ll recover from the injuries in an hour.

Suddenly, an NPC soldier appears in the restaurant, and Jin-woo pushes Hee-joo aside to shoot the enemy dead. Hee-joo looks terrified and immediately follows Jin-woo’s orders to log out of the game. She asks why he continues to play this dangerous game, and Jin-woo says that it’s the only way. He smiles as he assures her that he’s quite the force in the game, now that he’s at level 95.

Jin-woo asks if she’s had any luck with Emma, but Hee-joo shakes her head. Emma tends to appear and disappear randomly, and Hee-joo doesn’t know what to ask her. But she did recognize the accessory on the Emma’s right hand: the Hand of Fatima. Hee-joo explains that the Hand of Fatima also appears above the Gate of Justice at Alhambra Palace.

Hee-joo figures that Se-joo got inspiration from her guide books, which he borrowed for a period to create an item. She explains the significance to Jin-woo: Fatima was the daughter of the prophet Muhammad, and in Islam, the Hand of Fatima is believed to open the door to heaven. According to legend, the day that the Hand and the key to heaven unite, the gate of justice would open and the palace would collapse.

Jin-woo catches the mention of a key, and Hee-joo clarifies that there are two images on the gate: the Hand and the key. Jin-woo remembers overhearing the tour guide mentioning the key at the gate, and he takes out the key from his item inventory. As he looks at the key, he realizes that Se-joo sent him to the dungeon to find the key, not to save him.

In a flashback, we return to Marco’s deadly pursuit of Se-joo through the woods. Furious Marco had shot at Se-joo relentlessly, even resorting to a higher caliber gun to shoot at Se-joo. Hiding behind rocks, Se-joo blindly shot back at Marco with two handguns, and the game informed him that he defeated Marco.

At Café Alcabaza, Hyung-seok’s assistant continued to call Marco, and Se-joo followed the sound of Marco’s vibrating phone to find his dead body. Hyung-seok took the phone to call for himself, and someone finally answered.

Breathing heavily, Se-joo told Hyung-seok that Marco couldn’t meet him and that they couldn’t sell the game. Hyung-seok angrily demanded that Marco show up in the next hour and threatened to kill them if they went back on the deal. Se-joo hung up on Hyung-seok, who thought that these kids were playing him.

Unable to trust anyone, Se-joo contacted Jin-woo out of desperation and faced the terrors of the morphing game. Putting together the pieces, Jin-woo narrates: “He feared that he would die either in the game or in real life. So he went into hiding, waiting for his hidden master key to be delivered to Emma. This is where the quest ends.”

At the restaurant, Jin-woo imagines himself delivering the key to Emma and smiles in relief. Hee-joo asked if she was any help, and Jin-woo says that it’s all up to him now.

In the bathroom, Jin-woo calls Yang-joo and asks him to send the special items. As Yang-joo sends them, he mentions that Director Park has returned and was trying to reach Jin-woo. Walking back to the restaurant, he picks up a call from Director Park, who urgently breaks the news that Yu-ra just stirred up more trouble.

Jin-woo notices the police cars nearby and cautiously reenters the restaurant, where he overhears police officers questioning Hee-joo about Jin-woo’s whereabouts. Jin-woo makes a run for it, and the police officers chase after him. Hee-joo runs out and worriedly watches this sudden pursuit.

  
COMMENTS

Finally! I say this regarding many fronts — Emma’s significance, Hee-joo’s involvement in the game, and the sequence of events leading up to Se-joo’s disappearance. I’m pleased with how Emma has been tied into the game as a symbol of peace and protection, and I love that it reflects Se-joo’s perception of his older sister. Hee-joo has always been their family’s protector, and it seems fitting that Emma’s core function is to neutralize and protect. Speaking of Hee-jo, rejoice — she’s finally playing the game! I’ve been waiting for this moment, and though it’s a lot more of a passive involvement in the game, I find it a win in my book. Hee-joo holds all the knowledge when it comes to the contents of the game. Her role as a tour guide was intentional, and she should have been Jin-woo’s reference all along. I wish this was the relationship that we saw earlier because that dynamic seems more natural and buildable.

I always love a good sprinkle of history, so I really enjoyed how Alhambra was incorporated into this episode. I’m not sure how accurately the symbolism of the Hand of Fatima (also known as the Hamsa) was portrayed, but I did fact check that the legend of the Gate of Justice was true. The connection between the hand and the key was a great resolution to the quest, and now that we supposedly know how this nightmare ends, I’m sure that it won’t be as simple as it looks.

With the unpredictable nature of this story, I’m finding that my anticipation for plot twists are at a heightened state, so when the plot twists don’t happen, I’m disappointed. With Professor Cha’s first experience in the game, I had hyped myself up that this wasn’t his first time playing the game and imagined that he would be positioned as Jin-woo’s enemy. I consider it a missed opportunity to make him a better antagonist, and I think it’s also a missed opportunity that no other game developers were lured into the game. I would have loved to see Yang-joo try to navigate the game, and I hope we’re lucky enough to see some fresh faces in the AR world in these last few episodes.

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Yeah. So many missed opportunities. They could have gotten more people involved in the game from the start instead of all the useless flashbacks and real-world drama with the ex-wife.
On a side note, congrats to Moa for hitting 10%!

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@manohira rightly said in watching thread. People clearly ignore the role and importance of Hee-Joo in the story. Writer has provided information time-to-time how Hee-Joo fits into the story.

This episode highlights it too well and i clearly agree with 1st paragraph of recapper.
There is also a point that PSH got the short end of stick as she had not much to do here. More screentime for her wouldn't have change much.

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Yang-Ju is the unsung hero..... He may not help Jin-woo in the field like what Secretary Seo has done, but Yang-ju is always ready for Jin-woo whatever he asks, such as new items (Read: new guns)... And amazingly, he still calls Jin-woo "CEO"....

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PS: and I have to say, Jin-woo is super smart by making Prof. Cha his ally....

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SUPER SMART. that plot twist was so great. maybe i was the only one who didn’t see it coming, but i didn’t and it made it all the more incredible.

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Yes... and at one point, Prof. Cha could go crazy as he's seeing what Jin-woo has seeing....

by the way, I started to think, why Jin-woo's two previous relations have failed (thought the writer didn't tell us the detail).... If I were in Hee-joo's shoes, it's really hard though... Jin-woo sometimes has done something "what he'd thought it's good" and maybe it's the right thing, but he doesn't tell people what he's doing (so people become misunderstanding)... He's always doing most of the thing in his own accord...

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First wife Su-jin had already a psychological problem, I think. It's evident with how she handled difficult situations like the one at the moment (more of this on episode 14, I can't discuss more out of respect to viewers who haven't watched this episode yet). CHS mentioned before that he was actually rescuing SJ from JW, but I think she's already self-destructive even from the start. So, there's really nothing Jin-woo can do about it.

Second wife, Yu-ra, I agree she was used by JW just to prove a point both to CHS and SJ. But I think if she has a lovable character, then JW will eventually love her. JW said (in a previous episode I can't recall), he was surrounded by fake tears (Yu-ra) and sorry tears (Su-jin), so Hee-joo's tears which is fully out of concern for his well-being is something that has moved him though. If only Yu-ra has shown genuine feelings for JW, then the marriage wouldn't have failed I guess. Also, Yu-ra seems to be the person who is ambitious and would climb to the top whatever it takes. In a way, she was also using JW for her personal gains. This kind of marriage will not really last. I am surprised it lasted a year before JW pulled a stop to that.

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Agree! That was the smartest move. Prof. Cha would have still questioned the credibility if he included Dir. Park. It was so gratifying to see him shake in his boots. Anybody else vouch for JW, Prof. Cha still would be a jerk and question if he didn't experience the magnitude of craziness first hand. Including Prof.Cha and Hee Joo solved so many of JW's issues. He doesn't need to fight the dirty war outside the game. He gets the help in the game from Hee Joo.

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Yang-ju deserved at least "Director" title when Jin Woo come back to J-One..

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Yes.. by looking at his appearance, this guy must be seldom going home.... look at his office... he looks like sleeping there from time to time....

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i am not a software engineer/programmer myself.. but as someone who working along with them.. i think i can understand when i saw his room.. hahahaha

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Hahahaha.. yes.... when Jin-woo said that no-one is in his side to Hee-joo, Jin-woo actually got it wrong... Yang-joo has been there all along... :).

I don't what Jin-woo would do without Yang-joo...(well, although we knew Hee-joo/Emma will have a great role in finding Se-joo)...

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I absolutely adore yang-Ju - he’s such a loyal “friend” or “subordinate” lol

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I agree, without Yang-ju Zinu would have been limited in terms of weapons and other equipment!

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🏆 chanyeol’s acting’s. (also marco’s, who i was legit scared of) 🏆 emma as protector. so perfect, as @dramallama said. 🏆 incorporating history so elegantly.

if i have any complaint about this ep, it’s just that i wish the “solution” had been more teased out—not a quick recollection from HJ. i wish the audience had been given enough clues to figure it out too (i know, this isn’t poirot 🙃). the show has been zooming in on emma’s hand A LOT and if they had paid similar attention to the story of the key+hand, that would have been even more fun.

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I for one am glad that at least this time, the writer must have done some research and has a better explanation for why / what is happening in the AR world becoming real (*cough* not like W *cough*). I agree that they have been zooming in on Emma’s hand a lot, and even the throwaway fact that they mentioned it always rained at the cafe and how Emma’s song always played was subtle enough that it was a surprise but now looking back you realize it was all significant. I love that this quest is kinda like an Easter egg in a game, or at level 100 Jin Woo can finally “complete” memories of Alhambra. Se Joo was actually a genius programmer, and I appreciate the writer having a clearer goal this time in ending the story.

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I really wish such clues and typing up to Granada history was done from ep 8 or so. As much as I loved the typing up of Emma to the key I wishes there were more such elements.

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As a fan of Chanyeol, I happy and satisfied as well with his acting stint here even though his timeslot is very limited. Double high five!

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I must have missed this, but how did Jin Woo know that Marco stabbed Se Joo? Forget being stabbed in the Cafe.

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I probably missed it too, but it seemed like Jin-woo managed to just figure it out through his logic.

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😁😂 his early speculation about Marco and Se Joo I can still understand, but now it's ridiculous.

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He is speculating all this time. He lives with speculation. Whose memory was he narrating. For sure it was not his. He wasnt there with Marco, SJ and Cha.

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My idea is that Jin woo narrates the story that has already come to a conclusion. So, he already know what happened by the time he is telling us (viewers) the story.

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I think so, too. This is a pre-production, after all.

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This makes sense

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yeah i assumed this was why. that he’s telling us the story after it’s all played out, so he has actual answers.

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This makes perfect sense. So the entire thing - up to the final episode is done already. Thanks!

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With all the time skips and jumps he occasionally narrates from the future.

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PLOT TWIST - Jin Woo is a time traveller!!

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Agree with the narrate-after-he-knows theory.
If you don't agree, then better figure that Jin-woo's guesses are correct because:
1: He's smart
2: He's had a year to think about it
3: He remembers the subtle clues that we missed
4: It MUST be true because there isn't time for the show to explain any other way :)

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What I've thought after had watched this episode... Jin-woo is actually telling a story that has been done from the way he narrates the story... (it's like a flashback). The way he talks, it sounds like it has done in the past... like in the early episode when he told a story about how Hee-joo's family moved to Spain.

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This makes perfect sense! Thanks.

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If that's the explanation it was really bad editing because they showed JW having the insight about Emma's role as soon as his assistant tells him about her being a duel free zone. That led to the flashback that supposedly explained what happened even if he had no facts to support those theories.

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I don't think it's bad editing on this one though. What we were shown is what actually happened at that moment. So, when JW was shown having the insight of Emma's role in the game right after Yang Ju told him that, that was what happened in real time. But when JW was narrating the story, he already had the facts. He was narrating to us (viewers) about what had transpired starting from the moment he got that call from Se-joo.

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He goes straight from having a memory about HJ telling she worked at the cafe to his long theory about what happened, there is nothing to show these were in different moments.

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A lot of jumps to many conclusions and we got an explanation! No, it doesn't make any sense but you know what this writer thinks about that.

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so..Marco's stabbing Se Joo with real knife confusing Emma.. and contribute to game's virtual and reality mixed up.

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For someone who is stabbed, he sure runs faster than marco. Was he even really stabbed? I wonder

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hahahahahaha. exactly! i can't see the blood on his shirt even.. except on his hands when he fall down in the dark hallway.

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And he still lives for the next day. He went to Barcelona after the fight, then going back to Granada with train and went missing (without even going to hospital... Or did he?)

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I have the same question. How did Sejoo who was currently in Granada when the fight with Marco started got back to Barcelona so fast? And after getting stabbed? And then he went back to Granada again? I guess after he accidentally killed Marco in the game, he went back to Granada to contact Jinwoo and that same time he realized Marco became a npc character. Also in an episode where they found Marco’s body they said it was near Barcelona, how did that happen? Did Sejoo and Marco ran and fought from Granada all the way back to Barcelona?

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I need to see ep 8 again to finally get what really happened.

See Ju and Marco were going to meet Hyung-seok in Alcazaba Cafe, Granada, but they later had the fight and Marco was killed. His body was found in the woods near Granada. After See Ju accidentally killed Marco, he's going back to Barcelona, to Marco's place, to send the mail to Jin Woo. At that time, Jin Woo was still in Barcelona. See Ju planned to meet him there, but when he's calling him using the public telephone, the NPC-Marco chased him, so he ran to the station and going into the train to Granada, the place where he went missing.

Let's just say he might have stopped by at hospital and took care of his wound. Otherwise he's bleeding to death. It was a real knife, not a game equipment.

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If I had a penny for every plot hole. On the bright side we still have 2 more episodes for some suspension-of-disbelief explanation.

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@andrianajones, thank you for this timeline. I was also confused about why they were in the cafe in Granada when they were just in Barcelona! I thought it was a gaping hole in the plot. It still doesn’t make sense why he went back to Barcelona though. Because he told JinWoo to meet him in Granada at the hostel on the phone. So he made that trip twice in the span of just a few hours? That was lost to me. Why again?

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I don’t trust jin woo narration
Do we realize he is the only person who narrates? I can’t remeber but I don’t think anyone else narrates other than him.
It’s too intentional

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He’s stabbed in the real world not in the game which is why he can run like he isn’t injured. It’s the opposite to Jin Woo who in the game doesn’t have a limp. Remember every time they are being chased or using a weapon they are in game world, it’s always from the player’s perspective unless specified like when the police mention Jin Woo’s limp or when Prof Cha was shocked to see him without the limp hence the camera zoom.

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Even in episode 1 you can tell that Se Joo has been injured as he holds his side. This continues into the train. One would think he might have logged out of the game for bits of time, at which point a game induced injury would have healed. But, as he woke up on the train, before the storm's approach, I didn't notice any evidence of blood on his shirt.

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Still doesn't explain why the NPC characters when rogue or why game users get stuck as the Undead in the game. Its too convenient an explanation.

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This is waayy to much for a science-fiction. Even in a thousand years later with the best advanced-technology this world ever had, I will not believe that an "error game" would have such a huge impact in human's life, like murdering them for real with the game's equipment, or making someone disappear from the REAL world and hiding them in the game. It's 100% a fantasy.

Oh but those dimples XD.... Made my day!!

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This writer always asks us to accept impossible things, breaking the game/real-world barrier here, or breaking the comic-world/real-world barrier in W. It's fine as long as she handles the details consistently, like the equally-impossible time travel in Queen In-hyun's Man. Just accept the big stuff and nit-pick the little stuff :)

And her kind of impossibility isn't really much more impossible than what we get in more ordinary-seeming shows. Consider the super-sleuthing in Mystery Queen or the super hearing over the phone in Voice. Really, the mics and speakers in the phones are that good?

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Apparently there's some truth in viewers' suspicion about Alcazaba Cafe being the first place where Jin-woo encountered rain and thunder in the game. It's actually interesting that Emma is supposed to be a peacekeeper that rendered weapons useless and stopped any ongoing duel or attack in her vicinity. I guess her inability to stop real attack is what triggered this deadly glitch (maybe the game is frustrated since the only thing it can do to minimize that is penalizing players with level down). The duel Yang-joon witnessed in his office is proof that other players/testers has also made choice about being enemy or ally and enganged in duel, and it didn't result in real injuries or death. Iirc Jin-woo and Hyung-seok used physical attack on each other during their game activities. I wonder if that's the secret behind this error.

I got goosebumps during that unexpected revelation about Jin-woo not realizing that he actually limped during his gaming. Does that means this game is truly affecting players' brain? Or is it the contact lenses? I desperately wanted Dir. Park to show Jin-woo that, if only to see Jin-woo's reaction to that and whether he can recognized what truly happened at the time.

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I remember someone commented on DB on the episode in which Cha HS died that it might be the game felt too real and ended up tricking the mind of the players who died in the game, making them believe they truly died and thus, die in the real world as well. Seems like the case here.

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This makes sense to me. Your brain believes you are dead and shuts down the heart!!
I really can’t imagine a glitch in the game killing people.

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Sec Seo didn't use physical attack since he was fighting NPCs. The players themselves causing their death tricked by their brain makes sense. From Prof. Cha's reaction the pain was so intense. JW kept attacking even after Hyung-seok was defeated. Sec Seo was attacked by an army of people. They both didn't logout to stop feeling the pain. I don't think either that the game is capable of killing in real world.

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Sec Seo may not have logged out of the game but he DID remove the lens in an effort to get the attack to stop.

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Prof. Cha, too, took off the lens when he was in the elevator, before going to his car, yet he could still see the enemies and be hurt when he got out.

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You both are right. I remember now. There goes that theory. :)

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@zzthorn - May be the glitch in the game is that it doesn't stop when you take off the lens. But the death happens because your fear overtakes you (because you no longer can tell fiction vs reality).

I don't know. Just speaking out loud

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This was my first impression as to how Cha died. I’m not so sure now though.

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I wondered, too, what made the duel between JW and HS real like the one between the developer boys. I like your suggestion that it's the physical violence while playing that might have triggered it, since the show spent plenty of time on the scene with them choking each other and getting down graded. I wondered if it also had something to do with the fact that one or both (because we don't really know what all HS did before the duel) interacted with Emma in the cafe before dueling. Neither of these seem like "enough" reason to me, though, or like something that couldn't have been replicated by other users.

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"Real" violence while in the game + (maybe) real animosity = real death (???)

Yes, better fix that before you release the game :)

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I agree - that kind of glitch could be very dangerous and not good for the company.

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I keep thinking that the game senses the true anger of the players against each other and somehow uses it.
But then that doesn't explain Jin Woo's secretary's death because it was the game who killed him...
Boohlah Boohlah Boohlah
I give up trying to understand and am just enjoying Hyun Bin (yes, I am that shallow).

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I think Jin woo is not limping when he's in the game. The CCTV footage showing him limping was the one taken in Granada hospital where Sec. Seo's body lies. At that time, the server was already shutdown. That's why he's back to limping.

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So on my morning commute, some of this fell into place for me (I know you guys already knew this but hoping you can help me make sense of it too <3). In Ep1, I remembered how impressed they all were that the game could spontaneously adapt itself to real life: the NPC warrior was able to jump off of a car that recently parked in real life, or something like that. It's that ability that messed up Emma, right? Like, she saw a knife in real life and wasn't able to stop it, and that caused some kind of glitch. Is that glitch the reason that NPC Cha won't die? Does the glitch turn characters who die in real life into immortal NPCs? That doesn't quite explain WHY they die in real life... Or why Marco isn't a zombie NPC himself, and why Sec Seo (WE LOVE YOU) IS an NPC if he died from falling and not in the actual fight (wasn't that what they found out later?). Am I making any sense? Sorry I have so many questions! I'm like super into this right now and really want to get it. 😇

Follow up question: One thing that was super unclear to me during Marco and SJ's fight was which weapons were real. Didn't Marco accuse SJ of using a real gun---but then the gun pixelated and disappeared. Is that confusion (or ambiguity) related to this theory, do you think?

Tagging a few other beanies who might have insight (please don't feel obligated to reply): @alex8825 @lordcobol @firefly @stpauligurl @csmith

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Seju used the AR gun, but at that point the glitch had already taken effect, which is why Marco was shot for real/felt real pain.

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Jin Woo is holding the key now, Emma can be moved to his apartment, so why can't he just go home and pass the key to Emma? Why does he need to continue with the game?
Am I missing something?

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He needs to reach level 100 to be able to use the “key”.

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How many times would I have to say how much I love this show? 😍😍😍 It almost pains me to think that I will forever bid goodbye to MoA in the next few days. I will surely miss Hyun Bin’s charms and dimples which I must admit has contributed greatly to why my weekends are something I always look forward too, like a reward to myself for a job well done throughout the week. Huhuhu! 😭😭😭 #sepanxisreal

What I love about episode 13 is we finally got an answer on how to use the “key” which JW retrieved in the dungeons of Alhambra Palace. Hee Joo proved to be the biggest help to JW in this whole journey, contrary to what other beanies wrote a couple of episodes ago. She is important in the entire story.

On another note, I sooooo love the OSTs of MoA. It’s already playing on repeat in my playlist. Hehe! I’m one of those beanies who loves great OSTs. Good job to the music director of MoA! Thank you for giving us great music!

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The OST is fantastic! Daydream by Elaine is my favorite so far.

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They planned this drama very well. A lot of elements of Spain arised after in the story. I like the story is not linear. The flashbacks give a lot of informations about the game but about Jin Woo. I think it mixed well action and story.

The weak point if this drama is clearly the women's characters. They're pretty boring and useless.

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The reasons why I prefer pre-produced drama. No changing plots or adding new characters that sometimes overlap one another. Kudos to the writers

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I think it's a very good preproduced drama. I was disapointed by the last like 100 Days My Prince or While You Were Sleeping.

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So now : Emma is keeping Se Joo safe in the game-world. And once Jin Woo levels up to 100, and gives her the key, Alhambra will crumble i.e. the game world will vanish from the real world, and Se Joo will return.

Also this is what Jin Woo gets for keeping Hee Joo in the dark. *facepalm Honestly she could have made these connections on her own long ago. 🙄 Of course he can keep playing the game and go get that key but it's obvious she'd have been the brains & he the brawn & they could have got poor Se Joo out much earlier AND saved Secretary Seo a pointless death.

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That would have made for a better story and a better romance. The writer seems very intent on making JW a lone wolf...i guess that’s how she’s written his character to be. A lone wolf with all its strengths and failings. It’s pretty consistent to..JW never put HJ in the loop and gives the bare min details to his people in the conpany..

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Watching this show requires a lot of suspension of logic 🤣 it’s been said before that the writer has amazing ideas but she does not seem to put care in explaining things and making sense of things. She’s not great at building the world where her story is unfolding. Love W.. the story there was better drawn than Alhambra I feel.

Not to say I don’t enjoy MOTA.. I do like a lot of the scenes.. in large part because of Hyun Bin and the camera work.

Hyun Bin was super hot and impressive as a sniper. That was a very cool sequence.

Completely off tangent... saw HB and SJ dating rumors. i ship!

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Great. Now you have me imagining them on a date - where she just sits there and plays guitar and cries.

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SJ? Son ye Jin ?i too ship them . I want them atleast to do a drama

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This sentence, in your recap, discussing just after Dr. Cha leaves Jin Woo -- Professor Cha yells in pain and crawls into the car, ordering his driver to leave quickly, while Jin-woo continues to defeat the hoard of enemies attacking him. --

The word should be horde, not hoard.

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I don’t follow EXO but found out that the guy playing Se Joo is a member. He acts really well! I find his portrayal of Se Joo.. the awkwardness, the stuttering, all of it so on point.

It seems the siblings aside from the youngest sister are sort of passive and has difficulty speaking up or getting their way. I guess se Joo and Hee joo are more alike. I love the scenes in the cafe where se joo would come see his sister to get his allowance. That was very realistic and touching.

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Apart from that, I think the three siblings have facial similarities, like they’re siblings in real life. Just my opinion though. Great casting!

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I was surprised that both Hee Joo and Emma become a more significant part of the story this episode considering I’m let down each episode. Now that Jin Woo’s on the run I hope it can add to the thrill and create a fast paced episode. As the show/quest is nearing the end I wonder what more this writer will explore.

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Re: Hee Joo and Emma, did I miss something? Why does Jin Woo expect Hee Joo to be able to talk to Emma? Doesn't a player have to achieve a certain level before he/she can talk to Emma? And has Yang-Joo been playing and achieved that level, how can he talk to Emma or as programmer can he "talk" to all the NPCs? (And why can't he move around NPC Cha like he does Emma, and ... okay, I'll stop here)

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That is one puzzling thing -- you have to be level 5 to talk to Emma, and Hee-ju is level 1, unless the programmer changed the level requirement.

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I have a possible explanation (comment #37)

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Good one! 😄

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Grr, deleted to fix typos... here is my post again:

I think JW let HJ login because he wanted her to see Emma, hoping that maybe HJ can get some clues from seeing Emma... after all it was her brother who programmed Emma. Maybe JW was also hoping that HJ might be the exception and Emma would talk to her. I feel like letting HJ see Emma was kind of a trail on JW's part, and HJ did notice something.

In ep 14, mild spoilers, JW sent HJ home under the guise of needing her help finding something. When she reached home, her younger sister told her that JW had called and didn't need anything. I guess he knew she would argue. I also noticed that this time, whenever she logs in she will automatically be logged out. I guess JW asked the programmer to do that with her login (since she is still level 1), since she didn't give him her contacts in the dressing room. I love how much he cares for her and how he protects her, even though he expresses it subtly.

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Just so yall know, the writer's research on islam is completely false, muslims don't believe Fatima holds the key to heaven AT ALL, i wish she didn't involve religion when she didn't search it up well, she could've used another female story and not necessarily Fatima. Other than that, i'm glad we finally made a breakthrough in the story and JW finally has an answer to something !!

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yep, totally a folk's tale. idk about the cultural beliefs of people at that time and place, but just want to point out that there's no teaching in Islam whatsoever about Fatima's hand being the key to heaven lol.. she was the prophet's daughter, but just an ordinary human in general

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Maybe it lost something in translation. I suspect that a better way to put it, instead of saying of religious importance, to call it instead a legend. After all, you really wouldn't want to have the Palace of Alhambra fall down around you anyway. Let's just say it's like pulling a sword from a stone and you become King of England, instead of attaching it to a religion.

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Well, this is not a religious thing but a legend that is associated to the gate of the Alhambra. They say that when the hand touches the key (both are on opposite sides of the gate), the Alhambra fell down destroyed. Never heard of the hand being called Fatima's, not sure about that part. The legend is more famous because Granada is in a highly seismic area and earthquakes are very frequent (several times per year you will wake up on a vibrating bed 😉). The city and many buildings have been destroyed through the ages, so the Alhambra being still in place makes this legend quite special. In fact it's my favorite story about the Alhambra...together with the treasure hidden in the walls 😊

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Does jin woo realize that in order for hee joo to talk to emma, she needs to lever up to at least lvl 5. He knows this, right? right??? therefore she has to fight some npc too. But our dear writer probably conveniently forgot again.. idk

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Yep. Lets assume she forgot. As per usual

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They set her up as a user and made her level five. If you see she had no weapons. But is a higher level.

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No, she is at level 1. The writer really did forgot about the rule..
The rules are not very consistent anyway. Sometimes Jin-woo receives a shot wound (say at his chest) and is barely able to move because of the pain, but some other times even though he got shot again at his chest he can just move around like no big deal.

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May be Emma is thinking she is talking to herself :) Another thing is that Prof Cha removes his lens in the elevator. When he gets out he is still in the game world. We are not going to get any explanation. Are we?

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Ah. I thought I saw higher level in ep 14. May be I was tricked into seeing what I wanted to see :))

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@lacewng
Jin-woo & Sec Seo has the same condition as well, being unable to log out of the game even though they have the lens removed. Because the condition are consistent across Jin-woo and his allies, I can accept that as somehow the game is “intruding” the real world. But I agree with you, I don’t think the writer has any plan to explain how all of these happened. Which is a bummer 😒

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Nope that did not happen. And thankfully it didnt. With this logic, you are implying that the game can be manipulated and players can be made a higher level. So why didnt they just level JW up to level infinity. Save the pain of playing this game. And seo didnt have to die a useless death in NPC hands to boot.

Again. I'm happy that HJ was not made a higher level. It would make no sense if she was.

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I stand corrected!

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This too but I blame it on the writer not wanting to give the female lead any actual action. I enjoyed this drama a lot but I didn't like how poorly written all the female characters was.

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maybe yangju has a hand in it, he can move emma around and talk to her even though he's not playing the game himself

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I supposed she was given some sort of back door access? It’s plausible since I don’t think jin woo would allow her danger.

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I realized that, too. But I had some thoughts that maybe Emma was programmed to have some kind of special interactions when she sees Hee Ju. And that's maybe what Jin Woo thinks, too. But apparently not

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I understood it as though HJ (level1) wouldn't be able to talk to Emma, there could have been an exception for HJ and that it was , at this desperate point, worth trying. Maybe Emma /HJ interaction would be different. Or maybe it would trigger something in the game. One never knows with this game... If they couldn't speak (ha, HJ didn't even know what to ask Emma...) , HJ might be able to get some visual clues -- which is what happened.
So that's how I understood the purpose of the encounter, although Show made it sound like both could talk...

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Ok... To be honest, that's the reasoning I'm trying to convince myself with...

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It’s so good to finally have an answer about the significance of Emma’s character. Only complaint with the story is they spent so many times on flashbacks. 😩 it’s draaaahhhhaaaahaaaahaaaging. btw, how hard could it be for Prof Cha to tell the police dept to hold with the investigation, he can make up a number of lies that will cover up his mistakes for the sake of having JW finish the game and get to the bottom of the mess that he’s in. I just finished watching watching epi 14 and I’m already a little sad that next week is the final 2 episodes. 😪

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I've been enjoying this drama so much but I feel like I have more questions than answers from this episode. I understand incorporating the legend into the game but how does returning the key erase the glitch? Isn't it because of a program flaw? Is the key some sort of coding? I don't know much about gaming so maybe my questions are silly in which case please ignore.

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So I'm eating my words about how this writer bites more than she can chew. I know the plot isn't logical but it's something W failed with, how I would have loved a little explanation. And also with hee joo character, it's better late than never. Writer-nim you just redeemed a fan

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I posted this on my fan wall but can I share it here?
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The past few episodes sure got me conflicted. I can't say that I hate it, but I also can't say that I loved it.. I guess it just got dragged out. One thing's for sure - this drama would've been better watched on a marathon and not live. What was I thinking? I already made that resolution after what happened with W. I guess my curiosity got the best (or worst) of me.

But seriously, who else noticed the sloppy editing these past 2 episodes? It seemed that the editors couldn't wait to finish the story themselves. Haha

There are several more issues on this show that viewers found annoying. And I admit, PSH crying almost every 5 mins does get tiring. But honestly, I get her. Her character's just written that way. I'm not a crier myself but I have real-life friends who can cry as much as she does in this show, perhaps even more. And Jin Woo's on-an-off limp? I understood it. Based on the premise, he "thinks" it disappears when he's playing a high-level game. Seems ridiculous but if you think of how the game actually plays with your head, it makes sense. The brain is a powerful thing. There's been documented cases where it can create and erase physical symptoms just because it believed so. Which is why as much as I found the concept of the game fun and interesting, I won't have it IRL, thank you very much. We have too many mental and psychological illnesses existing already even without AR-induced paranoia.

Despite the show's glitches, I still look forward to the final episodes. Hope they get to deliver the ending this amazing concept, actors and production deserve.

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I watched W as a marathon and really enjoyed it! 🤔 maybe i should have done the same for MOTA. Lesson learned when it comes to this writer

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OK, but will you have the will-power to wait for her next show to end? :)

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I'm glad you said what you did about the crying. I did feel like HJ's tears in the first episodes were over-the-top, but in these last episodes I totally think it works. I would be a MESS if I were in her shoes. I would literally be in tears nonstop. I am a complete weeper, and this situation is so stressful for her---so to me, the tears are believable and totally understandable.

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Still loving the show! I can feel Prof Cha's fear as he finally sees and understands what Jin Woo has been going through the past year. The action scenes are amazing....and I'm swooning over Jin Woo everytime he holds a gun.

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Oh yeah! Glad am not the only one who noticed that. There's a scene where he lies flat on a rooftop and starts 'sniping' away at the enemies below (oh those endless legs 🙈)

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Am loving all the action. And HyunBin fighting is a sight to behold.

Can’t believe we are close to the finale!!

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Indeed a sight to behold! He does it so coolly and calmly too. Consistent with how he handles a lot of things

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He is such a bad ass. His movements are so fluid and makes it such a pleasure to watch. He excels in this show. His acting, action and his dimpleness. I so loved him when he says he is quite a force, the other players shake in fear when they see him. So cheeky :)

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And he's such a lovely runner 😍

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Hyun Bin fighting scenes are giving me the chills. I can imagine his training in military while doing those shots. Epic! He's soooo cool and handsome over there!

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as exciting it is to see JW fighting the game, i still wish there's an overarching theme besides a game going rogue. even in W there's the theme of Creator vs Creation, Fate vs Autonomy. it adds much more dimension to the plot instead of just manhwa characters crossing worlds

this show feels too technical and lacking heart imo, almost like a documentary on Extreme Bugfixing

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Lol "a documentary on Extreme Bugfixing"

Maybe Sejoo just forgot a semi-colon somewhere.

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Silly me. I spent 30+ years programming in a language where semi-colons don't matter, but a missing period can totally mess you up. And it's a really easy beginner mistake.

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Oh! Semi-colons are as important as not misplacing * in the 6th or 8th position in your realm :)

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haha i work a lot with python, where indentation is King XD

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Hmm I think the background story on the key and gate is quite nicely done.
I’m just not convinced that this is all it is because it all seems to be on jin woo narration - I’m not sure if his narration are what we should believe to be the truth.
I find the fact that he limps on cctv even though he sprints in real life very interesting
But without spoiling it - next episode it makes me think even further and the answers are not clear at all! Intriguing

I still think the game is sinister - the theory on Emma glitching because of see joo seems plausible but up to now other than Jin woo narration nothing points to that clearly.

Overall seeing pro cha shit his pants on being slashed is just gratifying, his expression just takes the cake and Jin woo being so badass is entertaining to watch.

I like to hear what everyone thinks - I find Jin woo is starting to change as well, he’s acting rather recklessly and has this air of “i’ll Be damned nothing to lose, just gonna drink by souju” - this take on the character is really interesting - I even think the romance part - it’s more what do I lose- I may die tmr and I’m seen as insane by half of the world, why not. So I buy why it moved quite quickly for Jin woo - he just doesn’t care too much anymore (although I can’t say the same for Hee Joo, but that’s just the character I supposed)

I may be in the minority - I hope they don’t just tie the ribbons up and make it a happy ending - i care for Jin woo - but even if he ends up dead, stuck in the game or insane - it’ll go fine by me rather than have the game reset and he just sets it all back in place and smile at Hee Joo. That’s too easy and I hope we are not sprinting to that kind of an ending

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"I still think the game is sinister - the theory on Emma glitching because of see joo seems plausible" AGREED. I kind of like that glitching theory, but it needs a lot more explaining to me. It seems to be missing something key. The game still feels sinister or somehow out of control.

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I thought the game would be an AI of some kind but its not. Aside from the glitch or bug its basically like any other RPG game but with an augmented reality element. How did it evolve so much to start tricking people into thinking they actually died? That just feels very extreme.

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So Heeju did not need to level up to talk to Emma? I wonder if npc Emma recognized Heeju in the game cause she used Emma as username..
I'm also satisfied with Emma's role in the game and how she can "make weapons disappear" to maintain peace.. Maybe that's why the glitch begun--because she can't make the real knife used by Marco disappear so the line between reality and AR became blurred (Marco was the first to feel pain and say that SJ used a real gun). The chase in the woods was so terrifying since it solidified previous theories that SJ might've killed Marco.. But what can the boy do--it was self-defense.
So now.. I hope JW uses that knowledge about Emma to ensure his safety. Can't he just finish the quest with Emma? She will protect him for sure.

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"So Heeju did not need to level up to talk to Emma? I wonder if npc Emma recognized Heeju in the game cause she used Emma as username." Yeah I wondered this too. And in that case, will HJ have certain privileges? Is that why she gets automatically logged out whenever she gets hit? Or is that because she has no weapon and the game is designed to keep the weaponless players out?

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May be Emma went on an infinite loop to make the real knife disappear and caused the fatal error in the game.

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Great recap but i totally love Prof Cha the way he is. He is one of the most realistic antagonists i've seen in a while. His path is unpredictable. On the one hand, he is faithful to his company and reputation above all else. He is highly principled and those principles are money, reputation, logic. I'm sure if he can find a way to earn money, keep his family's reputation, and somehow punish those whom he believes have harmed him..that he would do whatever is necessary. But at the moment, he cannot logically dislike Jin Woo so he's not going to be his antagonist.

I do agree about the missed opportunities. While the ex-wife is used as troublemaker, she is kinda tropey. We don't know why she wants to get back at him/with him to such a degree. She's kinda mean for no real reason.

CEO Park isn't used well either. Basically, he is there to look confused and to wring his hand.

I basically think the story is too "main character-focused" and doesn't give its secondary characters anything more than a "job" to do. But nothing is perfect....although this would've been seriously great if it had been perfect.

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Ex-wife - I think he married her just to prove a point to Cha or it was a rebound. And then she realizes that he never loved her. That must have hurt. And she was hoping to get some alimony out of the divorce. And him getting a video of her and arm twisting her to sign the divorce papers made her go crazy. She married, divorced and got nothing out of it.

CEO Park - they are showing him as an incapable leader.

Agree - this is all about Jin Woo. No one else has any role to play.

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The ex wife wanted half of his assets and they’re only married less than a year. What a greedy bitc..... I just dun get it why he married her in the first place.

Park is slowly being revealed as a true friend of Jin-woo and who cares about him...

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Ah, so she wanted half his assets. I think she may have wanted that after the game debacle started but am not sure. Jin Woo explained why he married her. I don't remember why. Haste? Spite? Delusion? Need to be loved? I forgot. I kinda forgot who started the divorce proceedings...him or her.

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Jin-woo did say he married her out of spite. But to spite who? I guess probably to spite the first wife. But couldn’t he find someone better than Yu-ra? Perhaps Yu-ra had gotten him drunk, seduced him..😂😂

Didn’t say who initiate his first divorce, but I guess probably the wife since she was having an ongoing affair with Hyung-seok.

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I thought she had already gotten some alimony. I didn't see her primary aim as money or greed. I saw her as someone who wanted to play the wife of tragic CEO in order to have a kind of scandal where she would use being pitied as a way to bring up her popularity. For the most part she has no real personality, she is just a trope to cause trouble so i never took her seriously as any kind of threat. In the long run, she is only a vehicle to get our OTP together and to get the law after Jin Woo but she doesn't seem "real" to me. More like a caricature. I like CEO Park but i think i've seen him play the wringing-hands friend way too often so it seems like the poor guy is getting typecast. (cough, cough NINE)
I'd say the most real persons in this drama are Grieving Dad, Jin Woo, Hacker in the office, Hyeong Suk, and Guilt-ridden wife. Our heroine feels real too although she has had little to do except be a supportive female.

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While I'm enjoying this show, I'm also frustrated that EVERY SINGLE woman character is pretty much one dimensional: hysterical, frail, malicious, or cute. Emma is truly the central metaphor for the role women play in the world created by this production. . .wouldn't it be great if the male actors who sign up for these roles also demand that the women characters share their multidimensionality?

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I think even the male secondary characters are poorly written. Director (now CEO ) Park is also a one dimensional character. Does nothing really.
Even Cha (wont go there because its Ep 14)
The brother - so far he is an introvert and scared person, nothing much to do either.

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Well, maybe, but . . . I see a lot more in the male characters than in the female ones. When I look at the brother (though we have had little time to do that so far) I see a lot more than a scared introvert. He's also a technical genius who created this mind blowing game and thought out the care and protection of his family through the financial plans he made to have the hotel own the game rights. He was able (through the game) to manipulate people (Jin Woo) to do what he wanted and was pretty intuitive in his efforts at manipulation. Even though he was just a minor at the time, he was trying to stand up for himself against Marcos. For a teenage kid, I find him pretty impressive and multidimensional. Because of a lack of social skills due to his introversion and his passionate work on the game, he struggled with face to face communication. But he was making efforts to conquer that by confronting Marcos, wanting to meet with the young Cha to consider selling the game, and calling Jin Woo to meet. Well, basically, what I am trying to say is that if we look close enough, we will probably find that each of these people are more than what first meets the eye. As for Director Park, I was rather surprised by the way he commanded respect as he walked through the company after he had been promoted to CEO. This was such a change from his previous presence in front of the workers. Yet he still seems to have a very special place in his heart for Jin Woo even as he struggles with the new responsibilities of the company.

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I can see that. But in terms of range of characterizations, there is such stark gender differences. :(

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As much as I love this drama but this fact is incorrect.
Fatimah Azzahra "was the daughter of the prophet Muhammad" - This fact is correct.
However, "and in Islam, the Hand of Fatima is believed to open the door to heaven. According to legend, the day that the Hand and the key to heaven unite, the gate of justice would open and the palace would collapse." - this fact is incorrect. This is based on Christianity belief.
Rest assured. I'm still enjoying the drama. Dont take it seriously.

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It seems there really is a legend that when the hand & key unite the gate would open and the palace would collapse. But it's *Alhambra* legend, not Islamic doctrine.
(I did a little googling and found multiple references to it that were written before the show aired. I assume the writer found them too. Be sure to include "Alhambra" in your search terms).

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It is not uncommon for writers to mix religious beliefs and urban/mystical legends. I don't know Islamic or Catholic beliefs but Fatima is definitely not from Christianity or shall I say Protestant. I'm not going to start a discussion on religion because it will take forever. Just want to say that whenever something that resembles religion pops up in a drama or movie, accuracy should be the last thing to expect.

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I got curious last night and decided to look up the meaning of the name "Zinu" which is JW's player name. I figured it had to have some meaning or insight. In Arabic it means "adultery." In Latvian, it means to "know" or as an agreement with something someone else said, "I know." One of those baby name meaning sights said that a person with the name Zinu would have these traits:
"A very spiritual person who often relies on intuition for decision making.Your mind is rich and deep, but often closed for other people. You sometimes need seclusion in order to gain clarity about what is going on in your life. This however does not make you a person that is hard to get along with. On the contrary you have many talents and can always tell what others are feeling. In love and relationships you tend to be very passionate."

I know that authors put a lot of thought into their character's names, so I wonder what this writer's thought process was when picking this user name for this character?

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A few episodes ago someone in the comment pointed out that it's just a different spelling of his name: Jinwoo (진우 in Hangul) = Zinu ...the pronunciation is basically the same, I would say ^^
But I'm not sure if there is an explanation for that choice..

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Well, that makes sense but is a whole lot less fun...

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I know!! I'm sorry! XD

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You can have it both ways. "Zinu" = "Jinwoo", but she chose "Jinwoo" because she liked baby-name "Zinu" ?

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OMG.... I’m really disappointed in PSH role here . I see only a bewildered expression mostly of hers in this role .Hyun bin has to get a Daesang for carrying this whole series on his perfect shoulders and cute dimples .
In hindsight I’m thinking PSH did get a whole lot of money just to “glower her eyes”.

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Yeah, this writer really missed a chance to create a great female character. It's such a pity.

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I agree!!!

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Its not her fault at all and I'm disappointed in the writer because its not like the plot point wasn't there. For some odd reason she just chose to write her as a supporting character.

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Yes, I think her character is poorly written. Really, she might as well not even be there. I'm watching this, and it's not quite a hate watch, but I don't think it's actually good either. I want to like PSH, but I've never really seen her in anything that gave her much of a chance. The one where she was a doctor was ok. Everyone's trying, but all of the characters are a little one note, and if Hyun Bin weren't Hyun Bin I doubt anybody'd be watching this one. All of the female characters could just as easily not be there an the story would barely change. I mean, the video game stuff is fun for a minute, but then it's boooo-ring. I've had more fun watching my roommate play Zelda.

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One of the most compelling moments in this show was when Prof Cha saw Hyung-seok in the game! So many feelings! Maybe slight delight cause he sees his son alive, but horror at seeing him wounded and covered in blood and sadness on the lack of recognition in Hyung-seok‘s eyes and it sinking in that he’s not real even though he seems so real. That moment was so good on many different levels. I feel like Prof Cha’s reaction to the game helped me feel how terrifying it would be to live in that reality. Jin Woo is a badass and honestly mentally strong. Yes, he slipped into drug abuse and alcoholism but you have to give him props for not ending himself in that year. That’s some crazy self-preservation and drive.
Like many, I’m glad we are getting answers. I’m glad it hadn’t fallen apart like W but this writer still has a long way to gain my trust. I think she’s great at conceptulizing, but lacks the ability to world build- which is so so important in Sci-fi. It seems that she is improving with each attempt so maybe her next attempt will be better executed

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I hope her next drama improved a lot. For now, she is almost on my blacklisted of writer.

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If anyone has seen Westworld, I see some parallels where between the game first being harmless for real humans but a glitch causes the game to become real.
I am really curious to see how accurate JinWoo's predictions for what happened with SeJoo and Marco.
I feel really bad for Hyeong Suk and his downfall after his falling out with Prof Cha. I feel like if Prof Ch wasn't so businessy and cared more for his son, he maybe could have fared a better fate.
Seo Jeong Hoon was sorely missed.
Glad to see HeeJoo + Emma being useful. I just wish they were used more instead of just a final stage of the drama.
It was awesome to see SeJoo's inspiration for the game coming from his loving noona.

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I love Westworld! but rather than a glitch, it's a function that was built into the hosts that caused their behavior to change. But yes, similar in that it was all fun and games until it had real world consequences. Can't really get into it without spoiling lol.

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The only thing is exciting Hyun Bin shooting NPC. Professor Cha got scared when he met his son Hyun Seok. Hee Joo meet Emma and we get why they get connected. However, HJ still cried and other then that is it for her in the game. Thanks for the insight of her how she meet Emma because. I did not know how and when and when did she get the lenses and meet Emma. I have a lot of more to say but it is on episode 14.

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Re Hee-joo being able to talk to Emma... Yes, she still seems to be level 1, which might make it seem like she should be able to (as has been mentioned above).

BUT, she's logged in as "Emma". So Emma is just talking to herself :)
,,, which kdrama characters do all the time. In fact, kdrama-land would collapse if characters stopped talking to themselves out loud to let us know what is going on.

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