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Romance Is a Bonus Book: Episode 6

Our heroine’s sweet neighbor is emboldened to start making moves, even as he learns all the ways that Dan-yi is connected to the mystery he hopes to reveal. For our poor lovesick hero, this means taking a backseat to yet another guy in Dan-yi’s life. But while Dan-yi’s love prospects seem to be improving, new obstacles put a damper on her marketing triumph at work.

 
EPISODE 6

Dan-yi hides across the street as Hae-rin turns up at Eun-ho’s place after a drink at the office. Hae-rin glances around for signs of Eun-ho’s female housemate before she ducks into his study, while Eun-ho shoots Dan-yi a text to let her know about Hae-rin.

Dan-yi still stands outside the house, though she tells Eun-ho that she’s still at work and that she’ll text when she’s headed home. As Eun-ho prepares tea, Hae-rin tucks an envelope, labeled with the number thirteen, between books on his shelves.

It seems that Hae-rin has been tucking a love letter into Eun-ho’s bookshelf every time that she visits, letters that Eun-ho hasn’t discovered yet. Though as her voiceover narrates the contents of this new letter, it seems that this is the first one where she’s said, “I love you.”

Meanwhile, Dan-yi finds herself at the bus stop with nowhere to go. But the next bus deposits her friendly neighbor Seo-joon in front of her, and the two smile over the coincidence. Seo-joon bought green onions for pancakes since he heard it would rain, and just as he mentions it, the rain begins.

Seo-joon asks Dan-yi to join him for dinner, and then drags her back under the bus stop overhang long enough to secret an umbrella from his bag for the two of them.

Back at chez Eun-ho, Hae-rin digs for more info on his new roommate, but Eun-ho’s not willing to share any details. Hae-rin teases that they should just date each other, and Eun-ho asks her to lean forward for his customary forehead flick punishment. She leans in eagerly, but Eun-ho stops short when he sees the rain, and tells Hae-rin that she should get home, though his thoughts are clearly on Dan-yi.

Dan-yi is safe from the rain though, inside the udon restaurant with Seo-joon. They exchange numbers and finally tell each other their names. Eun-ho passes right by the restaurant as he drops Hae-rin into a taxi. The conversation in the restaurant is warm, until Seo-joon comments on the rain, and Dan-yi recognizes it as a reference to a line in the final book by the author Kang Byeong-jun.

The smile fades from Seo-joon’s face as Dan-yi offers her theories on Kang Byeong-jun. She suggests that the name of his last book, April 23, was a reference to the death anniversaries for Shakespeare and Cervantes. Dan-yi believes that he knew he was going to retire as he wrote the book, and dismisses all of the wild theories about Gyeoroo and the author’s disappearance. Seo-joon gently defends the position and resists all of the explanations Dan-yi offers. He’s surprised to hear that Dan-yi is now an employee at Gyeoroo. He asks if anyone talks about the author, and Dan-yi tells him no, though they’re volunteering at the orphanage where all the book proceeds go to the next day.

The tense moment is interrupted by a call from Eun-ho, offering to pick Dan-yi up. His jealousy flares when he hears Dan-yi ask her neighborhood friend if her little brother can join them, and then his face falls completely when he arrives at the restaurant and spots Seo-joon in the window, a tight sneer-smile on his face.

Across town, Ji-yul and Hoon hide out from the rain in a cafe together. Ji-yul is not impressed by the latest suitors her mother has picked out for her, and as she watches Hoon drink his orange juice, she gets an idea. She calls Mom and reports that she has a boyfriend, named Hoon, so she no longer needs these blind dates. Hoon gasps when he hears his name, but Ji-yul scoffs at him when he asks if she really means to date him, and then promptly drags him along to a movie.

Back at the udon shop booth, Eun-ho blatantly texts Dan-yi to ask what Seo-joon knows. Dan-yi confirms that Seo-joon knows that the two of them live together, and she gasps when Eun-ho reminds her that Seo-joon is the book cover designer they were trying to get for their latest project, all while Seo-joon watches, brow arched. But he says that he doesn’t understand what’s so wrong about siblings working at the same company.

Eun-ho and Seo-joon glare and accuse back and forth, and Seo-joon finally catches on that Dan-yi and Eun-ho aren’t actually siblings. Seo-joon asks them what their relationship is, and states clearly that he’s interested in Dan-yi (squee!) Eun-ho’s frustration simmers on his face as Dan-yi declares him “just a guy I know, it can’t get simpler than that.”

Dan-yi chases behind Eun-ho all the way back home, berating him for his sulky behavior. Eun-ho lets his jealousy lash out, and he points out that Dan-yi just nodded along while a guy she barely knows declared his interest. Dan-yi smugly declares, “I guess I still got it,” but Eun-ho just barrels ahead. He mocks the “Cinderella” storyline when Dan-yi shares how the two met, and really explodes when Dan-yi responds, “We talked about that story already.”

Eun-ho declares that he and Dan-yi are a “we,” not this random guy, and when Dan-yi says that she had nowhere to go while Hae-rin was over, Eun-ho says, “You have me. You keep saying you have nowhere to go. But stop saying that. I’m your home. You can always come to me.”

Dan-yi’s nose wrinkles as she calls Eun-ho corny and pushes past Eun-ho for her room. He tells her that there’s a bag in there, from Na-gyeong. Sigh. Unaware of Eun-ho’s efforts for her, she admires the bag in her room.

Eun-ho brushes his teeth angrily in the bathroom, while he thinks about his moment alone with Seo-joon at the restaurant. After some cagey mentions of their gruff encounter at their previous meeting, Seo-joon makes it very clear that he’s interested in Dan-yi, and that he feels better after seeing that she clearly has no interest in the guy she’s living with. Oof, poor Eun-ho. In a weak effort to stake his claim, Eun-ho puts his arm around Dan-yi and throws his umbrella up over them both, even though it’s clearly no longer raining.

The next day, the Gyeoroo employees volunteer at Sunshine Orphanage. Hae-rin plays the evil step-sister to Ji-yul’s suffering Kong-jwi as they put on a play of Kong-jwi and Pat-jwi (a Korean Cinderella story) for the children. Eun-ho plays the piano and even Dan-yi steps on the stage to play a little bird friend in the play. Meanwhile, some of the guys offer free haircuts, and Jae-min of course hands out free books, all from Gyeoroo.

A young girl looks up as a figure approaches the orphanage. Dyed hair, short skirt, and trendy sunglasses, Yeong-ah looks like she’s returning from a wild evening out. She joins her coworkers as they break down the props and declares that she has divorced her husband and feels free.

Over at the hair cutting station, it seems that Ji-hong is also getting divorced, and he is much more upset about it. Hoon runs over to dish the gossip on Yeong-ah’s announcement, and as the staff members wince, it becomes pretty clear to everyone (except Hoon) that Yeong-ah and Ji-hong are divorcing one another.

The staff take a group photo and head for the bus, except for Jae-min and Eun-ho, who want to say hello to someone.

On the bus, Ji-hong tries to sit next to Yeong-ah, but she turns him away, her previously happy smile no longer in place. Hoon and Ji-yul completely misread the situation, and Hoon suggests that Yeong-ah and Ji-hong are having an affair. The tears finally come for Yeong-ah as she yanks off the wig she’s been wearing, and she sobs the entire ride back.

At the orphanage, Jae-min and Eun-ho stroll into the fields, and we flashback to ten years prior, when Jae-min first brought Eun-ho out here. They approach a tree where Jae-min’s late wife is buried. Jae-min has brought Eun-ho there to sign his official contract to join Gyeoroo, since Jae-min’s wife was Eun-ho’s biggest fan.

Before he signs the contract, Eun-ho hands over a document of his own–Kang Byeong-jun’s declaration of retirement, and all of the copyright ceded to Gyeoroo. Jae-min asks how Eun-ho knows the author, and Eun-ho admits that Kang Byeong-jun is his father.

Back in the present, Jae-min updates his wife on their children and all the latest company gossip, until Eun-ho’s support turns to impatience, ha.

Over at Seo-joon’s place, Geum-bi greets him at the door. Seo-joon has a copy of April 23, and he’s thinking about Dan-yi and her thoughts on the title’s secret meaning.

In the morning, the gift wrap packaging for the new Gyeoroo book is complete, and everyone congratulates one another around the boardroom table. Director Ko’s face remains impassive however, and she calls Eun-ho and Hae-rin into her office. Uh oh.

She notes Dan-yi’s name on the copyright page, credited as the marketing lead, and demands that they remove her name and replace it with the head of marketing, Yeong-ah. Director Ko says that Dan-yi is a task support team member and only supported this task. Hae-rin nods and leaves, but Eun-ho remains behind to stand up for Dan-yi.

He’s respectful as he defends all of Dan-yi’s efforts, but Director Ko points out that this credit line isn’t only for who did the work, but also for who can take responsibility if any issues arise post-launch. The director says that she understands Dan-yi’s desires, but that they are all responsible for their assigned tasks, not whatever they want to do. Eun-ho’s final response is that the company is still made up of people, and that limiting them to only their assigned jobs takes away their opportunities to do more.

In the shared office space, Ji-yul and Hoon congratulate Dan-yi as the first new hire with a credit in a book. Though it obviously hurts, Hae-rin marches past and phones the printer to request the change, and then calls Dan-yi over. Hae-rin stiffly reports the change and then apologizes that it was her mistake. Before Dan-yi can take a moment to process, Director Ko sends her on a delivery across town, one that they usually do by courier.

Dan-yi barely holds the tears in as she walks back home, but then she gets a surprise call from her daughter. Jae-hee’s called to thank Dan-yi for the new dress she sent her (bought with that alimony money), but quickly notices that her mother looks upset. Dan-yi sniffles, and tells Jae-hee that she hopes to be a role model for her, the type of person she can look up to.

A few days later, the book officially launches and the marketing is a success. After only ten days, Eun-ho announces that they’ll start the second printing with a full 10,000 copies this time. As the rest of the office cheers, Dan-yi passes out the mail. When she gets to Director Ko’s office though, she glances at the open notebook and sees that the director really did have the same idea she had for the first marketing idea Dan-yi promoted.

The director finds Dan-yi lingering over her desk, and Dan-yi tells her she sees that Director Ko was telling the truth. Dan-yi tells her that while she understands, she still wants to keep trying new things to challenge herself and grow with the company. She admits that her plan at first was to take the job and leave when another opportunity was available, but now she’s experienced what it’s like to contribute to the success of a good book, and she enjoys contributing to those efforts.

Dan-yi hits the office floor, taking on task after task from her colleagues, and eventually retreating to the break area to make tea. Eun-ho spots her and offers her a gift, a copy of the initial print with Dan-yi’s name still listed as the marketing lead. He tells her that even if the world doesn’t know, he knows that she was in charge of this flawless marketing strategy.

From across the room, Hae-rin spots this friendly exchange between the two and pauses to watch. Dan-yi’s phone rings and it’s Seo-joon, who is near her office and wants to take her out for dinner, their first real planned date. The screen freezes on four panels of each of their faces, only Seo-joon grinning broadly.

 
COMMENTS

I maybe regret my initial assessment of Seo-joon, because that man can disdainfully grimace/smile like no one else. He seemed so bland to me at first, but now even his kind actions seem somehow… calculated? These nuances only make me love him more, since a dull second lead is no fun. And I believe that he genuinely likes Dan-yi for who she is, it’s just that now that he knows that she works at Gyeroo, his motives are suspect in every scene.

But let’s get to my favorite moment of this hour: that kitchen scene following the udon dinner date. That kitchen scene. There were so many feelings exploding all over the place, and Dan-yi just can’t see them. She is in such a different mind set, that these meaningful words blow right past her as corny lines her little brother is tossing at her. The dramatic irony hurts so hard, especially seeing this following Episode 3’s conversation with Na-gyeong and knowing Eun-ho wants to know that Dan-yi feels the same thing before he makes a move.

Eun-ho just wants his chance, and that means maintaining a beautiful snow globe of isolation so that Dan-yi can come around with her own feelings over time. And it definitely doesn’t mean allowing another handsome young man with a dog and a grudge against him waltz in and steal his moments. Lee Jong-seok gives such excellent face, and he is made for scenes like this, where it’s all that’s not being said that matters most.

Will everyone hate me if I kind of agree with Director Ko just a little? Putting Dan-yi’s name down as the sole marketing contact for this book is a little unfair to Dan-yi if something were to go wrong. Would she have to defend herself and her decisions if issues came up post-launch? I can’t help but agree that she shouldn’t be the only name listed, just so if something does come up later, it doesn’t fall on her. But I think Dan-yi’s name could have appeared alongside Yeong-ah’s, so that there was some mentoring in place to protect her. I guess that’s what’s really missing in all this. It’s not that the director is wrong or right, but rather that a little bit of mentoring, rather than rivalry, would have given everyone what they wanted out of the situation.

It didn’t take long to get an answer regarding the mysterious author–Kang Byeong-jun is Eun-ho’s father, that’s easy enough. But obviously, there is so much more going on here. We know that Dan-yi helped care for Eun-ho when his mother passed away, but I don’t think we know the relationship between Eun-ho and his father yet. It seems that for whatever reason, the author’s life was filled with a secret in the end, a secret that Eun-ho knows and protects.

I would be completely happy if this story remained surface level, just two individuals finally figuring out that they love each other. But there are moments spread through these last few episodes that make me suspect a bigger heart, pulsing up from the roots of the tree where Jae-min buried his wife, that will tie everyone together in one big theme. Something about family, and about doing things for the people we love, even when they don’t make business sense, or even if they cause pain to others. We keep seeing all of the characters standing by one another, even when it’s hard. Eun-ho will stay by Dan-yi no matter what, even if she did choose Seo-joon. Jae-min’s pursuit of Eun-ho was to honor his wife even after her passing. Jae-min won’t give up the Kang Byeong-jun secret, even though it hurts the company’s reputation.

So while Eun-ho seems ashamed at times about the secret he’s harboring, I’m willing to agree with Dan-yi and give him the benefit of the doubt. I’m hopeful that they’ll be able to make this theme rise up and resonate with all of the stories they’re telling here, and finally bring Dan-yi and Eun-ho together in a way that’s perfectly satisfying.

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Fussy witch (with a B) taking Dan-i's name off the book, that scene was just heartbreaking. That last scene where he gave her the book was everything.

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On the other hand I disagree. Because Director Ko is absolutely right - marketing is more than creating the packaging and the cover for the book. So much more - promotions, talking to retailers, social media, press releases among other things. Dan-yi is involved in none of that. Nor is she responsible (as in, hauled up for something going wrong) for anything once the packaging is settled. Director Seo's team has done all the work, it IS only fair that Director Seo's name goes on the book. The editing of the show made it seem like her idea was everything there is to marketing the book but that's not true.

Plus Dan-yi has been hired for another team, and has been hiding her marketing experience. I don't think her giving an idea is a bad thing, and I do think she should be credited for it - but not so much so that her name is given as marketing head for the book. That's ridiculous.

I'll also disagree with calling Director Ko a "fussy witch (with a b)". If she was bullying Dan-yi with the laundry etc work, then it's a problem. But if that's what Dan yi has been hired to do then hmmm....Dan yi is approaching this with the wrong idea.

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So far all she's asked is that Dani do the job she was hired to do and not get credit for things she never did. That's... completely reasonable frankly.

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Precisely. Like @sicarius says below, she could have been credited for the cover design but marketing the entire book? *Facepalm

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It's like the show is making a subtle point about single, unmarried career women with Director Ko. But it doesn't seem to know what it wants to say - is she the unhappy, fussy witch (with a b) or is she a professional whom we look at with our preconceived biases. It makes her seem horrid but gives us hints that she's actually being very reasonable.

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Why must we jump to conclusions like that? If she was nice would anyone think all unmarried successful women are also nice? What about her married friends seeming to be stupid, vain and shallow? What about Hae Rin which is also unmarried and a very nice person?
The show has been very clear that she is insecure about Dani having good ideas but she seems to be that way with everyone, the reason for that, we don't know yet, maybe that's just the way she is?

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@lixie - to be insecure is fine. It just irks me because I think the show is stereotyping Director Ko. And then it gives hints to the contrary. Either it's very smart or it can't decide.

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I think we don't know yet and I'm fine with that. But even if she is an insecure maybe even jealous person why must we say it's because she is successful but unmarried? Sometimes these stereotypes are only in people's minds. It had not even crossed my mind, especially because all her "happily married" friends seemed stupid and vain.

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@lixie - rather than us/me saying it, I think its the show that said that. I'm pointing it out - this is the impression I got. Doesn't mean I see it in that light. ^^ That's an interesting twist to my words. :D Very-lawyer like of you.

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And also just....not do a job you weren't hired to do. Can you imagine if your office secretary decided to start sitting in on meetings instead of answering the phone and planning out schedules, coordinating office supplies and meetings in favor of what they consider more "substantive" work?

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I think this is kind of a grey area. Ideally, in an unreal world, Dan-yi wanting to contribute more is okay as long as she is also doing what she was hired to do. It's nowhere implied that her own work/job is suffering, so that's kind of OK. However when the show paints it as her right to do whatever she wants - then we've got a problem.

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I think they say she's responsible for planning the entire marketing plan. Even if weren't the case, presumably there is a reason why everybody's first impulse is to put Dan-yi's name as marketer (I gathered that the person responsible for creating the central concept used to market the book gets the credit, since everything else - talking to retailers, social media, etc. - is all contingent on what strategy they're planning to take with the book, and that's what Dan-yi came up with).

I also disagree about the emphasis on job descriptions. In most companies, a sizable share of the work a person does - perhaps the majority of the work - is not part of any formal job description. Jobs, in practice, are protean and necessarily so; you can't come up with a complete list of tasks that any person will or should do ex ante, and forcing Dan-yi to stick to her job description verbatim is not just bad for Dan-yi's career prospects, it's bad for the whole company. Now, admittedly, if Dan-yi's new tasks were impeding her ability to perform her other responsibilities, then I would agree with you! But in this case she's doing an amazing job at what she has been hired to do and Director Ko is purposefully concocted drudge tasks which it seems like no other person in Dan-yi's position was required to do (e.g. delivering that gift to that writer's wife).

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It wasn't just packaging, actually that part should have been done by the graphic design team but anyway, the main concept of marketing strategy was hers. That's pretty big. Not sure if she could have been in the credits but it's not a detail.

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Hmm...thats a good point.

While it seems to be a successful concept in the drama, we can agree that no one would hold her responsible for not doing a good job if it failed? Management is also about responsibility - I was told once as consolation for my poor pay that they're paid so much more because they are responsible for it. That actually made sense (in a twisted way) - though in practice it may not always work out that way.

Overall, I think it makes sense to credit her for the concept/cover design but to give the marketing credit to her entirely is too much.

What is more - she isn't part of the marketing team. If she's done work, she should be credited for it, but there is a grey area. I can't think Dan yi is quite as morally in the right as the show wants us to think she is.

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Yes, I said below I don't think she should be in the credits, maybe sub credit? The reasoning behind taking her name off was right it's just wrong to say she did only a small task. :)

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To be fair, the show set Director Ko up as a character to hate, and now is trying to add some nuances to that character. Did she steal Dani's idea? Maybe not, if you believe she wrote those notes before the meeting. But it's not so much what she did as the way she did it that's hateful. Was she wrong to take Dani's name off the book? Probably not, but again, it's not what she did but the way she did it. A. your name is off the book, and B. take this bag across town and deliver it. A. don't get any bright ideas and B. take my dry cleaning to the cleaners. It's her attitude that's hateful, and it's hard to apologize when the show has set that up from the beginning.

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On the stolen idea -- if it was really her idea and she was really intending to present it at the meeting, why did she hand Dan-i's paper around?? Wouldn't she have her own handout? As soon as I saw the notes on her desk, I thought she wrote them afterward and left them for Dan-i to see.

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*same, actually* XD

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I have to agree with this. Maybe it's a translation issue but I have a hard time believing they came up with exactly the same wording. I could buy them both having the same general idea but more than that breaks my suspension of disbelief.

And you're right that if Director Ko wanted to present this idea then she would have had her own presentation for it.

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The whole marketing thing is kinda weird. Because Director Ko is right, but also at the same time why would they put her name down as head of the marketing. She definitely should have gotten her name in there with credit for the idea. The whole thing when you think about it is just odd.

Like I used to work at a print magazine. And we gave credit to everyone who worked on an issue. If an intern came up with a good marketing idea, they would get credit for that. But it would go something like "Head of Marketing - Person. (byline) contribing marketing (or what have you) - Intern

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I felt sad for a second because the show made me sad about it - since it was implied she did do a lot of the work implementing the marketing idea and i thought she desrvee some credit - but director Go is right. She is not the one responsible. A subcredit for the idea would be nice but isnt mandatory, its the team leader who should be on there.

I wish they wouldnt paint director Go as so awful and Dan-yi as such a suffering Candy. Neither is true. Yes, she hit a rough patch, but she's also an adult with more life experience. I would expect more maturity regarding taking "credit" for things.

And I say this as a supporter of staying a child at heart forever.

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I'm getting kind of conflicting things from Director Ko.
On the one hand to me it did come across as her being jealous of Dani- whether it was deliberately written like that or not I don't know. But upon farther reflection it's easy to see that she's just doing her job, and very well at that, even if the people around her don't like her, so what.
The crediting thing- whilst Dani probably shouldn't have been credited for the ENTIRE marketing of the book, that's a given, the cover design, or well actually lack thereof, was her idea and she was integral in making the cover happen. Every book that I know of has a cover design credit, and it's usually an individual credit too. I don't know how Korean publications work, whether cover design is just covered in "marketing" but from my POV Dani at least deserved to be sub-credit for it. Even if it was a line inside saying "cover design by Dani and Haerin", because well, they did design the "cover".
I no longer know what the intent here is though- is Ko supposed to seem like a jealous bitch in need of changing her ways? Or is she supposed to be seen as the ideal career women that can teach Dani? Or is she there for us to bicker about the flaws in bureaucratic publishing companies? I don't honestly know anymore which one is truth because I can see all of them. But whatever.

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I don't know what they're doing with several of the characters and after this episode - which was quite poorly written, frankly - I'm wondering if the writer has ever met actual people before. She's certainly never met an 8-year-old: that scene where Dani calls her daughter and then monologues about the nature of motherhood was just.... bad, man, that was bad.

This episode was quite quite bad.

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Oh man that dialogue with the daughter. 😅 It was so wrong.

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I found that scene refreshing, actually. For a mother to not brush things off but explain her point of view helps a mother be seen as a full human. To say ‘actually my job is hard, but I want to work hard, and show you what living well looks like, in a way that you’d be able to respect me when you’re older’ is pretty incredible.

I’m however one of the people who thinks most of the beats in this drama are landing perfectly, so.

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Yeah but that phone conversation was just for exposition purposes to see inside Dan I's head and try and make her sympathetic as a mother. It didn't develop the relationship or tell us anything about her daughter as a character. At this point the daughter is just a plot and emotional device.

I'm still really enjoying the drama but there's a lot of things to me that could very well end up making this drama worse in the long run.

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The idea a mother would monologue to an 8-year-old she hasn't seen or spoken to in a while is ridiculous. She wouldn't have been able to get a word in edgewise.

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Maybe the daughter isn't supposed to be a character? I think that would be fine if she is used a plot device to make us understand DY's motivation to accept that job first, and to continue to work. This conversation with the daughter really explained it very well and it resonated with me as a mother too. Also, I think the writer can decide to show us one scene with the daughter, without it implying that she doesn't talk to her daughter often or that they don't have real 8-yr old-Mum conversations. That phone conversation could have been their 6th of the day. I remember being away from my daughter, and we would talk at least 4 times a day. It would be a completely different drama tho, had the writer decided to show us all that!

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This is a show about an older single mother. How can you make that show without her daughter being a character?

It reduces her daughter to merely another complication in Dani's life. And while I'm sure there are women who see their children that way, they're not exactly women whose stories I'm invested in.

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I think the idea of the child of a divorced impoverished mother simply being a convenient plot device leaves me a bit perplexed, and put off. To be honest this whole plot point leaves me perplexed. The idea of sending an 8 year child to boarding school in another country not long after her father left them, and after being bullied makes me a bit angry. I don't know many, or even any mothers that would separate themselves from a child that young during such an emotionally fraught time. I find the writer's devise here distasteful as well as not very believable.

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But @egads- that's exactly the point. It IS perplexing! Why is the child there at all?! Why does that plot point exist at all?! You could take the daughter out of this plot and the story would still work. She's only there for Dan I to be in more of a financial crisis, and for Dan I to be more sympathetic, and for Third Person Omnicscient POV of Dan I's thoughts about her situation.
it's ridiculous. Either make the child a DAUGHTER with real interactions, real emotions, a real character with a real relationship with Dan I AND Eun Ho (because let's be honest if Dan I had a child Eun Ho would be spoiling it to pieces), who has more to do with the plot than she currently has. And if she's just going to be reduced to this poor plot point, why have her at all? There are so many red flags that this is going to go bottoms up in the Bad Writing end of the swimming pool.

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Exactly how I felt about Dan-I’s daughter. A plot device thats otherwise forgotten if she wasnt relevant to the plot or to make audiences feel some sort of way or another. Her daughter studying abroad is also mighty convenient.

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I had commented below but just a quick replied to you here, I think Dan-yi's daughter is 11-year-old (12 in Korean age).

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I didn't think she was married for that long. But, okay. It doesn't change my perception of that phonecall.

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Yes, I found that conversation (monologue) awkward, too. My nieces that age wouldn't listen to a conversation like that for more than ten seconds. And I think it wasn't the right way to say that kind of things to a little girl.

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But isn’t that the point, that we feel conflicted. We understand, even though we may not agree. This drama has done well in showing us different viewpoints for issues that do not have obvious answers, especially in the workforce.

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At this point I can't tell if it's intended to be complex or if it's weak writing. I'm a cynic so I tend towards the latter but we'll wait and see.

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@sicarius @leetennant You two are the only voices I'm listening to re this drama (which I have not watched nor plan to - yet anyway).

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*nods*
That is a wise choice. I applaud your taste.
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Lol!!! I have said very little but thanks~ ;)

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You remind me of my daughter, who loves to watch shows in order to pick them apart, scene by terrible scene.

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*chokes* what me? Watch shows to pick them apart? *coughs* Never...

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Will everyone hate me if I kind of agree with Director Ko just a little?

Director Ko was right, man. She was right!
Dani wasn't in charge of marketing - she came up with an idea about one part of their marketing that was then implemented by a marketing team. She just assisted. She's not a member of the team, she's not the manager of the team, she should never have gotten that kind of credit - especially since she wouldn't be expected to carry the responsibility if things went south.

I get the impression what we're seeing here is a cultural clash that happens when small companies start to get larger. You have the small core of people who started things. They're a family and they are used to everyone pitching in and helping out because they were a small, boutique outfit. But now they've grown and have hired people like Director Ko to take professional oversight. Now they have enough work so people have defined roles and responsibilities, job descriptions and accountability. And in that headspace, Director Ko is 100% correct.

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I'm amused that the first few comments are all about Director Ko & Dan-yi. 😂 [Mine as well, up above]

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I could honestly write fifteen comments about everything that was wrong with this episode but thought I would concentrate on the biggest elephant about how they frame other characters in relation to the female lead. Dani's about two episodes from being a Mary Sue and that's a big problem for a noona romance about a mature divorced woman.

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Yeah. I really liked her introduction - and looked forward to seeing where they would take her, but they've made her a candy. My Definition of candy - a poor character with permanently good intentions who gets trampled upon by this cruel world, to whom life has been unfair even though they are so good, and despite this, they remain pure and good intentioned and cheerful. 😑 Very Dan-yi.

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Once the show starts telling me that they are the bestest at everything and everyone loves them and the only people who don't are JEALOUS, then I usually check out.

It's possible that's not where they're going but I'm getting distinct Mary Sue vibes.

Oh and I could have done without the awful dick swinging scene too. Eunho wasn't exactly covered in glory this episode eitheir.

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I've been feeling this from the beginning. I still have things i inexplicably like about this show but the main story, Dan-yi's storyline, is not it. So far.

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I said this above in response to you but also, like, why are we cheering for Dani? She wasn't qualified to get the jobs she wanted because her credentials aren't current and she's spent years out of the workforce. Now she's trying to do a job she wasn't hired for and isn't, according to most employers, qualified to do.

Sure, she's GOOD at her job and maybe she was unfairly turned away from jobs she could have done with some on-the-go learning, but I'm frustrated that we're supposed to be OK with her waltzing in and trying her hand at everything when that isn't what they needed a Task Support person for!

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Yes. I think personal development should be encouraged, but not like this. She wasn't hired to do this, and honestly, she shouldnt even be showing that she is THAT capable. She's supposed to have no degree. Coming up with promising ideas is one thing, but being able to present them and execute them without experience... how is her cover not blown yet?

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Her presentation is completely outdated, only the idea was good.

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This is actually a valid point. I hadn't thought of it like this before.

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Unfortunately it is also a fact that once organizations get larger and start to define roles and put people in boxes they also stifle all the creativity and unique flavor of that place that made it a success in the first place.

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Exactly. If you can’t take on more responsibility in a company, there’s no growth.

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She came up with the marketing concept for the book, it's pretty big and it's no wonder Ms Ko got upset throwing things in her desk, she knows this. Not saying she deserved any credit because I know the hierarchy is tricky, and she is right about the responsability, but it wasn't just a small task from some assistant.

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❤️ EH has some competition and DY is so flattered 😂

EH needs to change his strategy.. because of SJ.

I have this idea than SJ is a younger DM (ex-hubby) for DY, based on how DY described why she fell for DM...

LJS and LNY, always a pleasure watching their scenes. Some say LNY has better chemistry with the second lead.. but I think that's just part of the script.

And I agree with Director Go and thought they should have suggested adding DY's name.

Finally, I am reading something off off DY expression when she saw EH with the children.. and saw HR looking at EH. A look of sadness perhaps 🤔? Or wishful thinking on my part... 😂

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I noticed too the subtle changed of expression on DY face and the look in her eyes in that scene. It's only a split second like you blink and missed it but somehow it makes me think that DY does harbor some feelings for EH (and it's not as brotherly as we thought), but she's able to mask her feelings very well that it looks like she's immune to him.

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Yeah, this drama has my whole heart.

Every beat is so purposeful without dragging the characters or viewers down.

First, in regards to the workplace — I respect Eunho an incredible amount. He fights for the long game, knows when to speak, knows HOW to speak, knows when to shut up and accept it even though it frustrates him. He also gave Dani what she’d desired most of all the previous time she was cut down at work: understanding and sympathy.

I’m also enjoying seeing the executive at work. The way Eunho smoothes the edges over, the comfortable way they interact not only because of ten years history but now evidently due to the married relationship between the two (that is now on the rocks). Seeing her prance in with red stockings was incredible; seeing her wail loudly on the bus, even more. (And our lovely kids in the back being SO dumb, heh.)

And yes, I also agreed with the decision to take her name off. She supposedly has no experience or training; she should not be leading projects, let alone being responsible for the things that could potentially go wrong in the future. From an outsiders perspective, she could be seen to be wily in trying to climb the ladder and naive to think she could do things, only to crash and burn when problems occur. But Dani also understood that, ceded, while also promising to keep working. That’s what’s impressive about her.

Second, I agree that I’m really enjoying our second lead! Loved the cafe scene previously, loved how petty and annoying Eunho was in the udon scene because a) YES LOOK AT THIS OVERT WHINY JEALOUSY, b) It’s in fact calculated somewhat because he desires for Dani to recognise his feelings for her, and c) It shows Eunho doesn’t hold grudges, even though he was pushed on a subject stressful to him.

This episode also makes me wonder whether Eunho is actually as clueless about his protege’s feelings as he pretends. Hmmm. I’m going to leave that option open. It just strikes me so strange that’s someone so savvy could be so clueless in this regard.

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You took all of my feelings about this show and put it down in this lovely comment. I hope you have a wonderful day! :)

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On the Hea rin - Eun Ho issue, I don't think he is clueless at all.

I think he knows, that he did find the letters and that he returned them seemingly unopened as a way to let her down gently.

Anyway, this my point of view.

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So many of these kdramas are written by people who have never spent a day in a corporate workspace. Which is fine, but it means that team meetings or day-in-the-life-at-the-office feel completely unrealistic to anyone for whom this is their daily reality. Luckily, I'm here for LJS more than the plot, so this could go off the rails tomorrow and I'd be hanging on for dear life, Dr Stranger style.

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There are many businesses that function this way. Publishing is especially dysfunctional, since personality management and creative endeavors are a major facet of the job. RIABB actually captures the hypocritical open-yet-rigidly-structured tone of most 21st century enterprises these days.

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Also, maybe this is just me feeling cranky and hypercritical, but if someone tried to market a book that was completely wrapped up, the internet/advance readers would spoil it in seconds. Rightfully so, too! Who spends anywhere from 10-30 dollars on a book you can't even check out briefly to see if you'd like it?

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I didn't buy a book of this sort in one of my bookstore trips. I don't like surprises.

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It wasn't actually DN original idea - she got it from her research on publishing marketing as it was pointed out in previous episode. The meetings are unprofessional and DN looks really like an intern who's lucky given the opportunity to express herself. She doesn't behave like 35 -36 years old, but mostly like a person in her twenties. Even if you're a housewife for some time, you don't forget things so easily.

The book as a gift idea actually works pretty well with some little bookstores. You pay your 20 -30 dollars/euros/pounds per month and you get a surprise package with books somebody had chosen for you. Not all the packages are identical and they keep the list of books they've been sent to you to not to be repeated.

Not everyone is social media person. I don't do Instagram or Twitter and Facebook I didn't open for like 3 years already. It makes my life more free. It was like alcohol addiction...

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I am glad I got back into this bandwagon. I left after episode 1 but Netflix suggested this to me and so I gave it another try. It is quite calming, this drama.

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I don't see the second leas as manipulative. He didn't know she was working at Gyerooo. Clearly, there is something with Eun Ho's father, he's a fan or something else. Maybe knowing that she lives with Eun Ho made him to accelarate things but I don't think it's manipulative but pretty normal if he is interested in her. But the scene in the restaurant? Dani is 37 years old and the guys acted like petty and jealous teenagers. Personaly, I would have let them to their petty games and found a real man...

For the Director Ko, again I think she's very professional. We could think that the fact she send Dani to give the gift was petty, but the wife seemed really pleased that the compagny sent an employee. For her name in the copyrights, Dani had a good idea but it was only the packaging, so I can undertsand.

Dani as a mother is pretty weird. She doesn't really act as a mother for me.

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I've a feeling maybe Eun-ho's dad (the 'missing' author), could have wanted to retire from the writing scene, for reasons such as terminal illness, or he had a mental health issue (under a lot of stress/pressure, etc etc) and thus wanted to be away from the public spotlight, etc etc? I don't think the reason why he went missing was out of any malice by the publishing house.. hmm.

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For some reason Alzheimer's came to my mind as something that would end a writer's career. I thought he was still alive because didn't Eun Ho go visit him in one of the early episodes? Although knowing Kdramas he may have been to his grave for all we know.

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That's what I was saying earlier in the show. A degenerative illness like Alzheimers would explain why he wanted to disappear, why they don't want to reveal his secret, and why it's hard for Eun-ho to see him.

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I wonder why Eun Ho felt guilty and gave up the rights. Because if he's the son and his father legitimately gave him those rights, he shouldn't feel guilty for that. Why is it a secret?

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This was were my head went as well. Eun Ho's father might be alive or not but the reason he retired as a writer and disappeared was because he wanted to be remembered for his books not his illness.

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I’ve caught up! I don’t get Dan-i’s relationship with her daughter. I really don’t. Not that she has a daughter, but why is this is even part of the story? Poor girl seems like an afterthought and it bothers me, a lot. But she’s written to be aloof as well. And before you start going out with a guy or getting close, at all, shouldn’t you tell him you have a kid? Like that’s what I would have spilled at the udon place. My name is Dan-i and I have a daughter. What’s your name? Who the freak cares if your roommate is your childhood friend whom you work with. You have a kid. I’ve told this story before but a first date I had once was with a guy with a child. And he told me on the date. We had talked several times prior. I would have really appreciated it if he gave me a heads up before I went out with him. I’m sure the look I gave him when he told me told him I’d probably never go out with him again. I was a college co-ed, and not ready for that responsibility. Anyway, that bothers me too. That girl doesn’t need to be in the story if she’s not part of the dialogue.

Things that don’t bother me:

LJS’ charm and charisma: The looks outside the window of the Udon restaurant, gold.
Second lead guy: He has a strong game and I like it. His thoughtfulness to the heroine rivals any second lead I’ve seen.
Second lead girl: I like this actress a lot. I’d watch this show just for her.
The maknaes: Clueless but cute.

I cried with the CEO when he was speaking to the tree, telling his wife that his daughters missed their mom. Shoot me right through the heart, why don’t you. There. That’s the child(ren)-parent relationship I’m invested in.

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BULLET BULLET BULLET.

You said shoot me.
I am sorry.

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LOL! Bad @saturtledaisy!

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Ill repent.

My obsession is taking control.

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I walked into that one—I totally deserved that! JUST SHOOT ME! JUST SHOOT ME-EE-EE-EE. —Day6

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Between that bizarre phone monologue and the fact that she feels more like a plot device than anything else, it's not looking great for Dani's daughter. Hang in there, uri ttal, I'm sure they'll remember you're a person eventually.

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It just adds to the sense that the show is myopically from Dani's POV in a way that feels almost narcissistic. I suppose I should be glad the female lead is the hero of her own story. But I shouldn't be left with the impression she's mostly the hero of her own story in her own mind.

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I mean, it would certainly explain why the show expects us to feel like Ms Go was mean for removing Dani's name from the book, even though her decision to do so was perfectly sound. If we're watching this from inside Dani's head, then of course we'd feel slighted. But from the POV of a normal person who's actually interacted with humans before, it's like, "wait, who thought giving her all the credit (and responsibility) for marketing made any sense in the first place?"

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That tableau at the end says it all- we have a love quadrangle. A is enamored of B who is in love with C who is at least showing interest in D who is thinks he is interested in C but who also has a real problem with B while C may actually also love B but cannot bring herself to admit it. And everyone is unhappy at the start (even if D is smiling). This is the stuff that great comedy is made from- with lots of room for twists and misunderstandings until people finally find their way to love and happiness.

Poor Hae-rin-- She has literally been leaving Eunho love letters- but hidden in his bookcase. It just breaks your heart to watch her as he plays with the orphans- she clearly wants to have children with him.

Big Reveal- writer Kang handed over the rights to his works- not so much to the company as to his (illegitimate) son- who is Cha Eunho. OK, I am not enamored of birth secrets but what if Author Kang had another illegitimate son named Ji Seo-Joon? Just a hypothesis. Ji Seo-Joon has to be one of the most interesting second leads to come along in a long time. He is a mystery in his own right. On the one hand, as Abirdword points out, he is genuinely interested in Dan-yi. He is also smart, talented, good-looking- and he even comes with a nice dog. On the other hand, there is his obsession with Writer Kang and he seems to have ulterior motives related to that. There is a backstory there- I wonder when we get to see it.

Dan-yi’s explanation of the title of “April 23” is interesting- as one of those authors is Shakespeare- who used the final scene of his final play “The Tempest” to signal his own retirement.

Oh Ji-yoo wants to stop going out on two blind dates a week- so she tells her mother that she is in love with Park Hoon and is dating him. We have seen this story before: One of my favorite rom coms of all time is “Marriage, Not Dating” – and the only difference is that this time it is the girl who needs to fend off her mother. Hoon knows that he is only Ji-yoo’s fake boyfriend- and 2 episodes ago he embarrassed himself driving the company car. Which means that he has no reason to engage in the puffery he used before. That means that Ji-yoo will get to know the real Hoon. Will love blossom?

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Similar thoughts on my part @oldawyer!

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I've been thinking the same, that maybe Ji Seo-Joon was the illegitimate son. Hadn't thought about both of them being that.

Overall I'm enjoying the sweetness of this show and look forward to Danyi coming to the knowledge that she alone is worthy of being loved.

Also, I look forward to Dir Ko showing that not only is she smart, but that she can be kind and empathetic. That really is the only thing she's lacking and why so many people hate her right now. I just dislike her lack of empathy and respect for others.

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Director Ko is successful but lonely. Her lack of empathy may simply be a reflection of her isolation.

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+100000000% agree!
This is why I can't hate her.

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Ya I think Ko & Danyi are going to be fast friends by the end of this.

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Thanks abirdword for the recap.

I love this show to pieces. After 7 years I finally find a show that keep me invested this much. So yeah, can't stop sneaking around to read recaps and everyone's comments.

I make it short just to get some facts straight.

1. Dan-yi was married for 11 years, she was out of the work force for 7 years. May be her Mom was still alive at the first 4 years so her Mom took care of DY's daughter while DY was working at the first 4 years. Writer did not give us any further details.

2. Some beanies said Dan-yi's daughter is 8 years old. No, her daughter is 11 (12 in Korean age). I dont like DY's phone conversation with her daughter that much but it's not disaster :)

3. In one of DY's talk with her sauna part-time ahjuma, DY said her daughter wants to stay and study in Philippines (hence cheaper than US or Europe countries) because her daughter is scared of being bullied back in Korea. So there is a back story too.

I understand some beanies don't like the fact that her daughter is out of the picture at the moment. But I have faith in the writer and hope she continues giving us more surprises.

4. I do think DY has special feelings for Eun-ho. Very subtle but there are hints. He was the one she often looked back at her wedding.

The drinking training scene, after she went to washroom and returned with lipstick smear, why did she do that?

Present, as many already mentioned, the look she gave him at the orphanage and the sadness she has after seeing Hae-rin.
Like Eun Ho, back then she could not bare the thought of losing him if they crossed the line. And at young age she did not understand what is love, maybe she liked him back then but it's not enough for her to risk their relationship. She just let herself go ahead with marriage. Now, the situation is even worse because she is a divorced woman, has a daughter, financial loss. Many young and successful ladies are around him, what does she have? She think she does not deserve him and she might not even dare to think about that.

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I don't think she is realising her feelings for him yet. Her sad look at the orphanage was more about HR in my opinion.
Yes, she went through with the wedding but I think it was more because of the financial and filial obligations than anything else.
She is not at the point yet where she sees EH more than just a brother. Something has to happen in order for her to see him in a different light. Maybe the revelations of his secrets might bring a shift in their relationships and she might start to think about him in a different way.

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I agree that the orphanage scene was more about HR. But somehow I felt there is a sadness for DY herself. Like the look she gave Ms Seo when she announced her divorce.

On her marriage, that's what I meant, she continued the wedding because of financial and commitments, but the hesitation at the opening scene, and what made her run at first place?

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Ginko, you made a most perceptive point about the orphanage scene. Now that you have pointed it out I think that what is going on is Dan-yi feeling that her time has passed. In a way she is acknowledging that she feels something more for Eunho- but she knows that Hae-rin is more suitable for him. She may even be thinking that she should encourage Hae-rin and even try to give Eun-ho a push in Hae-rin's direction.

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I think she feels for her colleague that got divorced because she knows exactly what it means and the pain that is associated with it.
I think she ran just because she was not sure, cold feet perhaps but there was also the pressure from her mom that made her go through it even if she was not sure about the commitment. I think she did love her husband (maybe not the big love of your life kind of love but she had feelings for him) but the situation was maybe rushed and she new what marriage entails: becoming a housewife and a mother, giving up your career. Maybe that is what weighted heavily on her back then.

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I'll take a dull second lead over a rude second lead any day.

My love for this show has cooked a lot by this episode as I can't for the life of me understand these characters. None of them are serious in life. And at their big ages, they should be serious. Smh.

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I also hope for the sake of the second lead that there is a backstory to why he so badly wants to know the whereabouts of that author - a valid, and personal reason, and not just curiosity/titillation. Because that would piss me off even further.

Public figures (authors, actors, etc) don't exist for our consumption and deserve to withdraw from public life if they so choose. They don't need anyone's consent.

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Well of course public figures can withdraw from public life if they wish. They don't need our consent, but they do need to acknowledge their decision to leave. Public figures became rich and famous due to the love and devotion from fans. Without that, they are nothing more than a talented/gifted person. There is a certain amount of responsibility public figures should have for fans, even if it is just a simple "thank you and goodbye." Public figures have sacrificed a portion of their private lives in exchange for the fame and fortune they have accepted in their public life. Writers have much less intrusion into their lives as compared to actors and musicians who perform, but still, it is a choice the person made and a responsibility they took on.

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There isn't. They are doing their job and for a long time before the advent of paparazzi and fan entitlement, it was just that. Famous people were just people who were famous at their jobs, not the minutiae of their lives. We are not entitled to their thanks for being fans. We, on the other hand, should be grateful for the opportunity to enjoy their genius. It is great if we get a heads up of their plans, but we are not owed anything.

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No, we aren't "owed" anything. But without fans there is no fame and fortune. I don't remember any time in history when the great actors, musicians and writers were "just people" who were famous at their jobs. They have always been adored and idolized by fans, at least in America. Actually, "fan entitlement" is something that I am not even familiar with as being something of any substance. Maybe it is different in South Korea, I am sure it is. But up until the past few years I have not seen any frenzy of "fan entitlement" in America. Fans wait in long lines for an autograph or camp out for tickets. They don't bash the public figure for every little move he or she makes in his or her private life. But, fans expect to be warned if the public figure is going to disappear suddenly without notice and it would be courtesy of the public figure to consider the disappointment and sadness of the fans if that were to happen. There is a cost that comes with fame and fortune. Yes we enjoy their genius and sometimes pay huge sums for it (tickets, albums, books, concerts, theater, merchandise, etc, etc) . Without fans the money stops rolling in.

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I really, really hope so. And even a backstory wouldn't warrant him being so rude and belligerent in that first meeting. It truly rubbed me the wrong way.

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I agree with you about the excessive rudeness at the first meeting. This is one time when our second lead has serious flaws. I think that this a good thing- in a way it is more natural than the sort of almost superhumanly nice second lead that we saw in "Fated To Love You".
One of the things that I like about this show is that we are more likely to get Second Lead Syndrome for the Second Female Lead as opposed to the Second Male Lead.

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DY does not seem to know that author Kang is EH's father. In the past she only mentioned a step father. And when she talked to SJ she seemed oblivious about writer Kang and his motives. If she new she would not talk about the writer that casually, I think. So this might be the big secret EH was referring to when he was talking to her in previous episodes (things he did for a reason and that she hopes she will understand). I am wondering if SJ is writer Kang's second son. That might explain why he is so obsessed with him. Just being a big fan would not make much sense because of the way he is behaving.

It will be interesting to see how DY will start to see EH in a different light.

Regarding director Ko: DY name should have been mentioned along the head of marketing even if she came up with the whole idea. I just think director Ko does not like DY because she thinks that this girl is having it all (family, kids, job, success).

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@tesshan
I too was playing around with the idea that Writer Kang had 2 (or more?) sons, maybe adopted or he considered them like godsons. What a hoot if Eun Ho and Seo Joon were almost half-brothers or something!!

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I really like Hae Rin as a character but I found her behavior in this episode very perplexing. She knows Eun Ho lives with a woman, she was explicitly told not to come there again when she got drunk. Yet she still went. This is so out of character for someone who relies on the letters she hides in a bookshelf for her confession. I don’t know what to think of those letters either. I always think a direct approach is best. In this case if the recipient wants to ignore even after he finds the letters and pretend not to know they could and Hae Rin wouldn’t be any the wiser. Furthermore, anyone who touches that bookshelf can accidentally find the letters. Yet, not only does Hae Rin come to Eun Ho’s house after being explicitly told not to (a disrespect for a friend’s wishes) but she leaves another letter! I don’t know if this means she doesn’t believe that Eun Ho is living with someone. I expected her to look for evidence of a female occupant in the house, or even make a comment and Eun Ho to show her the room (or Hae Rin to accidentally stumble upon it), or see something that she knows belongs to Dan Yi, but all she cared about was to hide another letter! I also don’t understand the inability to give up someone living with someone else.

On the scene at the end of the episode I wonder if the moment of Hae Rin cluing in to the nature of Eun Ho and Dan Yi’s relationship has arrived (I hope it is not a fake out).

Ji Yeul and Park Hoon’s story just got interesting with her little rebellion against her mother and fake dating scheme.

Another side story that also got interesting is the couple who got divorced that we didn't even know were married. I wonder if Yeong Ah will bond with Dan Yi over divorce.

I loved Director’s Kim visit to his wife’s resting place.

Problems is I always seem to like side stories better with this writer’s work as I really dislike the love triangles and the heroine dating the other guy for half the drama. I was hoping this drama would break that pattern but alas… I am rapidly losing interest in the main loveline.

The reveal of writer Kang’s identity really came out of nowhere and was made in such a blasé manner that it didn’t make any impact on me. I only object to the manner of the reveal though as it made things more interesting. I am now full of questions. I wonder if Eun Ho’s parents divorced when he was young and his stepfather adopted him, thus the different last name. But we know that there was no love lost between him and his stepfather from Dan Yi’s reference to her father helping him to get his inheritance from his stepfather when his mom died. Another alternative explanation is Eun Ho being an illegitimate child. The other thing this reveal made was to solidify my dislike of Seo Joon’s attitude over this affair. I still don’t get his emotional response.

I dislike Director Ko more and more. Her attitude has nothing to do with being a successful carrier woman who is unmarried and has no kids...

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Once again I didn't realize I got cutoff...

I dislike Director Ko more and more. Her attitude has nothing to do with being a successful carrier woman who is unmarried and has no kids. Whatever her circumstances she is just a nasty piece of work who steps on another woman and tries to keep her busy with menial tasks. Whatever excuse she gives, it is because she is jealous and she looks down on people in Dan Yi’s position and tries to keep them in their place. I also don’t buy that she came up with the same idea for a blurb (if that was the intention the realistic thing would be to make it close but not exactly the same). I think she wrote it there for Dan Yi to find and think what she did. I find it curious that she didn’t even turn a page in the notebook from that event that happened a few weeks ago and they moved on to new projects. I think Dan Yi’s name should definitely be included there. Doing otherwise is intellectual property theft, but doing it blatantly and officially.

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> I think she wrote it there for Dan Yi to find and think what she did.

Exactly what I said on another reply. :)

>I really like Hae Rin as a character but I found her behavior in this episode very perplexing.

Me too. For all the reasons you explained and because I think she is too smart to make such a dramatic confession to a person which not only is her boss, which makes this improper, but also a very good friend, which could make it so difficult to brush off as a brief attraction. It seems out of character.

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Exactly,

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All i want to say is that i hope the actress acting hae rin finally gets lee jung suk in another drama. Frist w two worlds and now this??

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Ill fated (drama) lovers?

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I love the two leads chemistry. It makes me understand why studios used to have favorite pairs they'd keep together.

I dont think Eun-ho needs to confront Hae-rin's potential feelings at all. That would be horrible if every potential crush or unrequited love did this.

However, I hate Hae-rin's love notes. Having feelings but compartmentalizing them to be friends and co workers was fine. Love notes especially when told "I'm living with someone crosses a line.

Ko is Danyi's boss. She sends her to do tasks because that is her job.

I liked Danyi's reaction to her disappointment. She pretty much sucked it up and went back to work. Also, had the realization that she is new to this position and has things to learn.

When Eun-ho gave her the book with her name he made sure that she knew he was praising her as an editor not a friend. I appreciated that.

Overall I seriously am enjoying this show. It has so many elements I like. It is a bright spot at the end of my week.

In regards to the daughter I think it could be hilarious if she moves back.

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Thanks @abirdword.

This show is amazing for juxtaposing the sad with the funny moments. I had great LOL moments over Park Hoon and Ji Yul's total misreading of Yeong Ah and Ji Hong's relationship. At the same time I felt for them over the divorce.

I like the execution in this show. Each bit of conflict comes along at the right time to discomfit Eun Ho and gets him all worked up so that Dan-I will end up more and more baffled. LOL. I almost wish that Eun Ho's ex-gf could just come along to clear up the mystery of Eun Ho's bad humour. (Maybe at the end when all else fails to knock it into Dan-I's head??)

I'm seeing a series of misunderstandings and insights. Just as Park Hoon and Ji Yul cannot make a right conjecture based on the little they can see, so too Dan-I has not been given enough clues, although that is being changed and likely to change pretty quick.

Park Hoon and Ji Yul are mistaken if they think they are not 'dating. And Seo Joon (and the public) are mistaken about the relationship between Writer Kang and Gyeoroo.

The insights: Seo Joon figures out fast that Eun Ho likes Dan-I, Dan-I knows Hae Rin likes Eun Ho and Eun Ho knows that Seo Joon is going to challenge him all the way for Dan-I. Isn't it ironical that in the people connections, the ones closest don't get the insight but only those who are one step removed. 😆

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Being a step removed is often necessary for true objectivity.

Hoon and Ji-yul are indeed dating- and the fun moment will be when Ji-Yul realizes it- and does not want to stop.

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Something that sort of bothers me ... Dan-I joined the company under false pretences and Eun Ho covered it up by not saying anything. In RL, lying about one's qualifications to get a job, actually loses one that job once this is found out. Eun Ho will also be implicated. The heartbreak and loss of face if this happens will be terrible.

So far the show has been mostly light and fun, but the original premise about how a qualified out-of-work person gets a job, is based on a lie.

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But she didn't fabricate competences she doesn't have to get the job, she hid them, so it's not bad for the company. I think the issue it's they hid their 30 years old relationship and the fact they live together now...

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She hid something good not bad how could that be a problem? She took a job she was overqualified for, is that really wrong, many people do it and companies understand it's because they are having issues getting jobs in their field at the moment.

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I agree. Few employers would be upset that they got a better deal than they had thought they were getting. At the same time, I think that because Director Ko used to be in marketing that she may suspect that Dan-yi is the Kang Dan-yi is the same as the Kang Dan-yi who won awards in the past.

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Yes, I’ve been wondering when her past marketing work would be revealed.

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@kurama @lixie @oldawyer
That's interesting that you find it fine.

However I could be particular about this now because I'm trying to hire someone. One of the qualities we look for is honesty. I take it on trust that if a candidate says their highest educational qualification is Middle School, then it is. If I knew that they actually were U Grads, then I'd not hire them for the low end job because they're more likely to leave sooner than a non-U Grad, and there were resources put into hiring them which seem wasted. And we have to take the time and effort to start over again.

Maybe under some circumstances, if they honestly told me that they needed the job and were prepared to be 'underemployed' and would work for a few years, I might be happy to have them. It's the lie that bothers.

In the show, Dan-I actually admits that she had intended to stay only for a short while. In her conversation with Yeong Ah, she had to lie that she'd worked part-time and had gotten interested in marketing then.

If the truth comes to light that she is qualified, and worse if the company knows that Eun Ho has known it all along, there's the element of her dishonesty to get over, and of Eun Ho's abetting her as well. By that time, we hope that she would have become indispensable to the company and not lose her job. 😉

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Yes, maybe we are being so understanding about her lie because we know she wouldn't find a better job very soon and we know how hard she tried to find them.

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I think when you're searching you have to sell yourself and lot of people are lying in the processus. The important thing for the boss, it's the lie doesn't cost money or its reputation to the company. In this sens, the lie of Dani is not big.

I agree there is a trust issue but for me it's more about her relationship with Eun Ho than her resume.

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Hellooo is there anyone know the english song in ep 1 when dan-i dancing with the ajjumas?? Thx ❤

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I haven’t gone back to listen for sure, but I think it’ll be part of the OST when it comes out.

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Director Ko was wrong. When the author pulled his contract, her first comment was about the marketing—a task DY took on. It is DY who came up with the concept, down to selecting the wrapping and quotes. We also don’t know what else she did, but we know DY is a completist. Yes, DY is not the director of marketing, but she marketed that book, even to the author.

Director Ko could have added her name under Yeong-ah. If her direction arose from a place free of disdain and arrogance, it would still be a slight, due to the work DY put in. However, Director Ko did this out of spiteful condescension, and that is wrong, no matter the optics.

EH is absolutely correct—when you’re restricted to just one role, you won’t do anything more, you won’t want to. And that’s going to come back on Director Ko.

I just had to say that. There is a line, as a boss, that you have to maintain called objectivity. Director Ko has crossed it.

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I agree- It would have cost nothing to simply add Dan-yi. as in marketing by A and B, rather than just marketing by A.

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Ok, so Kang is both the family name for the Danyi and the mysterious author. Anyone else think it's her father? There is the hiccup with DY's conversation with SJ, but she doesn't say anything to deny it. Does that mean when eunho says he's his father, he means as Danyi is his noona? . . .

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There is a possibility that they can be related and the missing author is actually Dan-i's father. It could be that he was Eun Ho's writing mentor. Growing up, Eun Ho may have forged a special bond with him and regards him as a father figure.

But I may be wrong. I recall that in a previous episode, Dan-i's father helped Eun Ho with his inheritance problem. At that time that, I conjectured that may be he was a lawyer.

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Jealous Eun-ho is so sweet and lovely and sad!
And so Ceo Kim talking to his late wife! :'(

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I really love Dan-yi's character. She keeps on growing on me every week. I appreciate how true she is to her character and how badass she is at work. She needed to learn about marketing and she did it by herself. She is damn good and I love how Eun-ho knows that she is damn good. I do not understand why you called her a victim, she did cry, who would not. What matters is not the situation but how she reacts to it and what she decides to take away from it. I believe in Dan-yi, she is a damn smart warrior.

I agree only partially with director Ko, her point may hold for me, only if it did not erase Dan-yi's contribution totally( which I think is what she wanted) . I Know Eun-ho is talking from an immensely biased perspective but he is not wrong totally either. Director Ko has a problem and it is not with Dan-yi, it is with work-related issues. Director Love has framed a scheme on how to perform work and Dan-yi's failure to follow it threathens the credibility of that scheme and in some way her perfection. Given that Dan-yi does both her assigned and unassigned work perfectly, she cannot accept it so she has to force her into following her scheme. She is not wicked but she is in sick mentality that she can only be right. I don't want Director Ko to change, I love her attitude but I think there is always room for improvement and I hope the shows satisfies me on that.

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There were two moments this episode where I got a little verklempt.....
I loved the publishing company volunteering at the orphanage- I want to work for them. I also loved the visit to his wife, and the demonstrative relationship between the two.

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I'm baffled by people chastising Dani for wanting to do more than what her role stipulates. I think it's pretty clear that Dani is not slacking on her task support duties to work on her marketing project---she's putting in more time than 9-5 to make sure she does a good job in both. Gyeoroo looks to have a pretty open and collaborative work culture. The President himself said it was okay for her to join. So this "she is overstepping her boundaries" rhetoric makes no sense to me. Are employees not allowed to grow in their roles? Is a task support employee confined to that role forever?

Like I know yall are trying to push back on folks who are talking shit about Director Go, but you can do that without diminishing Dani's work ethic and determination. What Director Go did in stripping Dani's name from the credits was probably the right choice from a business standpoint, but I'm not sure I can say with certainty that she was being completely objective. But I find her fascinating precisely because of this blurred line---she is so good at her job, yet there is just enough insecurity there that she feels the need to belittle a subordinate who is literally on the lowest rung in the ladder. Calling her a b***h is ridiculous, but you can't deny she has a bit of a superiority complex situation going on, and her constant digs at Dani are more personal than what a lot of comments here are implying.

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If you think about it, DY is new.. just a few days and not yet a permanent temp/contract worker. It's perfectly logical that even though she played a big role, her name is not used as the marketer. What if she suddenly resigns? I appreciate that the writer is not making it easy for DY. I would think that even if DY was disappointed, deep inside, she knows Director Go's decision made sense. Maybe she is just frustrated that because she is new, she is not yet in a position to enjoy the success from her idea.

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Ayyy, i love Dan-i!!! But the chemistry between she and Eun no doesnt convince me jet. Maybe is the notory diference of age, but i dont now, i see more chemistry with the other guy. I hope that she date first with the designer and then with Eun no... will be diferent and like life is. Am i the only one that thinks that? XD

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I think we cannot see it yet because she cannot see it either. She sees him as a brother and is behaving accordingly. Or at least I do hope that she is that good and we will see/feel the change when she starts looking at him as a potential partner.

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Yes, i didnt think about it, you have a point. But i really want to see Dan ii dating with the other before Eun No just for to cut the tread of the typical story line in the dramaworld. Maybe feelts more true for me if happened that way.

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I believe there brothers,and they both like the same woman.

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😂😂😂😂 This. Is. It.

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I’m enjoying this drama for the great acting from both main leads. As far as plot .. nice change from the predictable head over heels noona romance where the guys are always grinning ear to ear acting bashful and cute. LJS portrays a respectable love for DY... I like his character’s professionalism at work.. supporting her thrive to do more.. empathize with her disappointments. Can’t wait to see new episodes each week..

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Glad Mr Umbrella claims his Ms Green Onion. 😈

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Has nobody pointed out how painful/fun it is to see Jung Eugene in YET another 2nd lead pining after Lee Jong Suk, after W? I did a spit-take when I first watched epi 1, and then it was just meta-textually funny, and I imagine the behind-the-scenes conversations must have been full of laughter when they first had their script-read/read about the casting.

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This is the first drama I’ve seen where the main male character actually smokes; albeit not very often but it is written in his character. I’m not sure what the trend is in Korea in regards to public reception to smoking but definitely where I am smoking is no longer that publicly acceptable and uncool. Still I like the storyline so I’m still watching with lots of anticipation.

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I really want to twist Lee Jong seok's index finger and break it in a go.
That beckoning finger....😼

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I'm enjoying this light and warm hearted drama. Every time I watch it there are some laugh out loud moments that I have to rewind and watch again. :) I agree that the kitchen scene is hilarious! I empathize with DY when she says "I still got it!" to SJ's advances because I would do the same! Who wouldn't like it if an attractive young man finds you attractive? She is just coming out from a terrible situation and life is looking up. She just doesn't seem to think of EH as a romantic connection, which is too bad because he cares about her so much. I like all the pretty coats in this drama. Wow, they dress really well in the office. I show up in my uggs and sweatshirt so maybe it's time to put in a little more effort. haha.

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