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Team Dramabeans: What we’re watching

So, what are we all watching this week?

What kept you reaching for more (or agonizing when there was no more), and what made you want to throw your remote through the screen? Time to weigh in…

 

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Coffee Friends: This is like live-watching an intense game of Diner Dash. I know they’re trying their best and it looks impressive, but at the same time, I still get the urge to micromanage them and suggest ways of speeding up the cooking and serving process. Then again, if everything was so efficient, we wouldn’t see their personalities shining through during moments of crisis. Like Yang Se-jong talking out loud to himself. Or Yunho trying his darnedest to escape his dishwashing prison. It’s funny how he kept asking in disbelief if they’re really going to keep him hidden in the back like that, because it goes against all the rules of stardom and publicity. (Don’t you wanna trot him out and get more diners and maybe more donations?!) But yes, yes, they did relegate him to the maknae-est of tasks and it’s hilarious. Which is, like, the core of all Na PD shows: suffering builds character builds entertainment.

The Crowned Clown: I almost didn’t start this because of complaints about the long episodes, but don’t let that stop you! There is so much happening that you don’t really feel the drag. You just notice that your eyes hurt a liiittle bit after another 80 minutes of being glued to the screen. My pettiest of complaints is the title is a bit misleading. There are actually three clowns: Ha Sun, Eunuch Cho, and the most serious (and consequently funniest) Royal Chief Secretary Lee. Normally, such funny antics would overshadow the politics and make it boring for me, but the different players in the palace each have a commanding presence that I don’t mind knowing what they’re currently plotting. If only so I can fret in advance how each new plot is getting in the way of Ha Sun and his equally awesome Queen.

Because This Life Is Our First: I caught part of tvN’s Chinese New Year marathon of this and enjoyed the glimpse into the oft-praised trio of girlfriends. I like how the show doesn’t judge any of them for their choices: be it “bold” like Soo-ji’s, crazy like Ji-ho’s, or “normal” like Ho-rang’s. The show just tells you that each choice comes with its own perks and consequences, and you just have to choose whatever makes you the happiest. It’s another good show to start the (Chinese) new year with, if you’re in a mood for looking back and redirecting your course in life.

Romance Is a Bonus Book: ♥♥♥♥♥♥

 

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Romance Is a Bonus Book: Loved it from the very start, especially the dynamic and history between the two leads. Lee Jong-seok’s character doesn’t seem like very new territory for him (yet?), but I don’t care because he’s great. And so is Wie Ha-joon (last seen by me as Sohn Ye-jin’s younger brother in Pretty Noona Who Buys Me Food). Help, I can feel the second lead syndrome coming on against all reason, but trying to stop it is like trying to stop a flood with a dishtowel.

An Empress’s Dignity: We are getting to the point where I don’t want this drama to end because I’m so attached to everyone. But the final episodes are coming, and I’ll have to rip off the goodbye bandaid very soon.

Gogh’s Starry Night: I had a quick detour down web drama lane this week, and this one was so fun. Kim Young-kwang plays Kwon Yuri’s grumpy boss who’s secretly/obviously nuts about her in a way that reminded me of the dynamic between Deok-sun and Jung-hwan in Answer Me 1988 (except way less epic). This web drama is just how I like my romcoms: ridiculous, tropey, and strangely swoony tales of struggling, feisty heroines and gruff, tofu-hearted heroes.

 
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If We Were a Season: 4/10 Take 1 really short rom-com, subtract all the "com", add cast that I liked in other shows, and what do you get? Not much.

Spring Turns to Spring: 9.5/10 A rom-com with "rom" subtracted works much better. Body-swapped wife with family is a riot. CIA & Stooges didn't get enough screen time this week to drag it down. Bride running out of her wedding with... Non-birth-secret...

Romance Is A Bonus Book: 8/10 More entertaining as a whole than the parts seem like they should be.

My Strange Hero: 6/10 for the week; 7 for the series; 9/10 Jo Bo-ah. Like every kdrama ever, they spent too much time on feel-good wrap-up after everything important was settled.

Crowned Clown: 5.5/10 Slow-paced & bland, "enlivened" only by typical sageuk politics. Yawn.

An Empress's Dignity / Last Empress: 9/10

Touch Your Heart / Reach of Sincerity: 9/10 LOL. Having an actress remember / reenact her CFs is a good way to work in some PPL.

Legal High: 4/10

After the Rain: 8/10 Short but sweet.

Memories of the Alhambra: With all my unwanted free time because of drama preemptions I went to bitchesoverdramas dot com (hey, I didn't pick that name) and read about a zillion posts that made sense and explained Everything You Ever Wanted to Know -- except why we need to read everything there instead of figuring it out when we watched the show. So it was "better" than most of us gave it credit for, or at least much more carefully plotted -- just over our heads. Highly recommend a read if you have the time.

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Spring Turns to Spring: My favorite scenes are the ones involving Bo Mi, Bom and Bom's family. Even the assistant doesn't make me angry because she's as confused as the husband haha.

Touch Your Heart: The writer is a genius in bringing both PPL and comedy scenes together XD

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Thank you! Crowned Clown, absolutely agree. Are we the only two? bitchesoverdramas, yes. Because most of us can't figure it out, and I always knew it was better than most gave it credit for, especially watching it the 2nd time after I read bitchesoverdramas.com.

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I applaud the person with gaming knowledge who had time to write all those posts despite the fact that the MOA writer admitted in interview that she wings her plots...
Even if I give her the benefit of the doubt and believe that her game ideas and plots were carefully thought out, and that she wasn't just winging it off the barest of bones of a concept, she's still awful at executing them in any kind of written and consumable format. You can have the best and smartest ideas for a story in the world, but if you can't write the story well what's the point? Oh wait- I guess if it's pretty and exciting enough at the beginning then people watch it anyway.
But congratulations on your Frankenstein Canon, fandom.

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@lordcobol Thanks for sharing the bitchesoverdramas site! MoA left me with so many questions and I definitely needed closure from that open ending. Their site's analysis pointed out details that I missed ... and probably gave Song Jae Jung more credit than she deserved but it also gave me a higher level of appreciation for the drama that I invested 16 hours in 😂
@sicarius I totally agree that the MoA writer definitely has execution trouble with her awesome ideas but then again, the perfect kdrama is rare and I'd probably would tune into her next project, fully aware that things will fall apart in the second half 😂

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I can't wait to watch Trap's premiere !

- Completed -

Clean With Passion For Now: I began with little expectation beside a basic rom-com but the angst killed the little pleasure gave me. At least, it ended quite well.

Kingdom: It felt more like an introduction to the zombies apocalypse than a first season packed with fast development like I expected. It was good but not to the point of it being incredible. The second season will be the real deal.

My Strange Hero: I already miss Bok Soo, So Jung, Se Oh, the squad and the teachers !

- Currently watching -

Band of Sisters: ep 14. My blood boils when I see the "mom" interacting with her son. Yes, it's hard when your child isn't like other children but he needs all the attention, care and love from both parents.

The Crowned Clown: I wondered what happened to the King's corpse. Was it thrown in the sea, burned or grabbed ? Because if the Clown's enemy ever find out his body, it will be the end.

The Last Empress: Na Wang Shik is finally exposed ! And it feels like the Emperor won't have a redemption (struggling his wife won't help even if it's less worse than attempted murder...).

Legal High: ep 1. It had good comedy and Jin Goo is just having a blast with his character. He reminded of an immoral Baek Jin Sang (Happy to Die).

Like A Flowing River: ep 38. Arrrgh, the young couple grew on me and now they might not be end up together ?!

Liver or Die: The siblings should just live together because their partners suffer the most in this show. Even if it's not volontary (in Wae Sang's case) or doesn't come from bad intetentions (in Poong Sang's case). I wish to see more of his (ex)wife and their daughter's life because they seem to be doing well without him.

Romance is a Bonus Book: I don't have much to say other than I like the leads' friendship.

Spring Turns to Spring: I always wonder how the husband doesn't notice that it's not his wife's voice when she (in Bo Mi's body) is on the phone. I needed to suspend A LOT my belief for the brain cancer as a side effect part...

Touch Your Heart: Jang Ki Yong's cameo was hilarious XD It just screams rom-com and I'm in for the comedy. I'm waiting a bit to see the romance develop.

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Jang Ki Yong cameo!!!! loved it!!!! hopefully he'll show up in In Real Life...
*fingers crossed*

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The Crowned Clown:
Now that the real King is dead, the show is now developing one of two arcs: when screen time isn’t towards the tragic and forbidden romance, it would most likely be pushed towards the palace politics and Ha Sun’s hidden identity. I do echo some worrying sentiments that the show is moving dangerously into mediocre territory with these developments, but maybe this writer can surprise us again in the second half? I assumed that there was a plan better than the real King rehabilitating under Dal Rae and becoming a worthy contestant of the Queen’s heart but there’s nothing as of yet.

Spring Must Be Coming:
I feel ambivalent about this week’s episode. The show handled the brain tumour red herring well with it being a nice reference to a classic kdrama trope (that wasn’t dragged for manufactured tension!) as well as serving as a good common anchor to bond both female leads together. On the other hand, the side stories feel really redundant and poorly integrated with the main body-switching story. I found myself fast-forwarding anytime we got to any CIA or bookshop scene, because why would you watch that when there’s awkward English dialogue and cringe monologues?

My Strange Hero:
There were some interesting arcs (Se Ho’s in particular was riveting and Kwak Dong Yeon performance was outstanding) but these were also accompanied by the standard cliches (Se Ho’s mother as the one-dimensional villain) as well as a truckload of characters that didn’t really add much to the story (Gyung Hyun and Min Ji suffered much once the misunderstanding was resolved and they’re certainly not just any side character). So I find myself pretty discontented with the execution even though the writing did have its shining moments with regards to the main leads.

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Spring Must Be Coming: I FF the CIA's scenes too because it's too awkward. And I don't like Bom Sam he's just so frustrating and a coward...

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Clean With Passion for Now:
Sudden redemption? Sudden time jump and curing of disorder? Sudden reunion of the main couple? Sudden forgiveness? Sudden reconciliation and kiss? I just summed up the ending with problems magically resolved and happy ending guaranteed. I don’t know if the climax filled with manufactured angst was worst, but what I do know is that the show went blazing all out with the standard tropes and ignored quite a fair bit of character consistency in the process. Yoon Kyun Sang can sleep well though knowing he’s won over the viewers despite the initial casting kerfuffle.

An Empress’s Dignity:
Well, rational viewers would have seen the Emperor’s mental breakdown coming from afar given the consistency for the character. The writer was determined to get the last laugh in by stomping completely on any redemption for him, but the unbalanced focus (so much screen time spent making him pitiful!) caused loads of other issues for the show: most importantly of them all is the dragging story, which I’ve no idea how the hell is going to wrap up smoothly in next week’s finale (given that there is no extension now). I wish that there will be cathartic revenge payoffs for me to enjoy!

As shows end, I'm also looking ahead to pick up some new shows! I'll be watching the just premiered Reach of Sincerity and will be looking forward also to Trap airing this weekend. I'm on the fence for The Light in Your Eyes but otherwise not anticipating any other new show in February.

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There's no extension for the last empress? What happened? I want to know what's on that damned island!!

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Well the only trope Empress hasn't covered so far is the 5% chance of living by having brain surgery to remove bullet. So I figure that'll happen soon.

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Good points about TCC. I am hoping the second half is as riveting as the first. I am still anticipating (hoping) for flashbacks to understand Yi Heon and Secretary Lee better.

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I found Romance is a Bonus Book to be a little boring so I stopped at episode 2 but I hear good thoughts on DB. Did it get interesting or is it wholesomely better in its standard rom com ways?

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It gets more boring. Two Outs in the Ninth Inning is better.

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@newso I enjoyed 2 Outs in the 9th Inning except the part when she had a young Bf.

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@tizzy I understand. Initially, I didn't care for the storyline either, but was pleasantly surprised at how well it contributed to her growth and had a wonderfully bittersweet ending, so I ended up liking it.

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I'm still annoyed over Lee Na Young's character for how she treats Lee Jong Suk's character.

However, for me...it got interesting in episodes 3 and 4. Especially when you see the dynamics between each of the main leads with the 2nd leads. For now, i wanna ship them with their respective 2nd leads. 😅

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Like many Kdrama's (particularly the rom-coms) the first two episodes simply set the scene. "Romance Is A Bonus Book" git much more interesting and fun in episodes 3 and 4.

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I just watched the first episode lastnight and had several problems with it as well. But I’m intrigued enough to keep going. I do like her character, and how they stood the “knight in shining armor” trope on its head. I can’t say that I wasn’t moved by what the handsome stranger did. But didn’t she have another pair of shoes when she left her condemned house? There was no need to her to go bear foot the whole day!

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For me, Romance improved with each episode.

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*barefoot
Sheesh, I just noticed that.

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I didn't even notice the spelling until you corrected it. Haha

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Ha ha - interesting image, though, with bear foot :D

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I started Romance is a Bonus Book by reading the 1st 2 recaps on db. Then watched them all over again up to current ep. Found that the heroin character relatable in terms of how hard it is to get back to work life after a long break 😭. Now I’m hooked. For now..

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I planned to finish Boksu and Cleaner to have my plate clean(er) before I dive into the new batch of shows... but then I wasn't in the mood for the (very likely) angsty episodes... and instead watched something else 😆

...and so I planned to write my thoughts about the shows I did watch... and how I like the lead actors and the supporting cast... and how I wish they didn't make Yoon Seo so ridiculously stupid during the first minutes (she was fine(ish) later) ... and how I miss Shin Dong Wook (though Lee Sang Woo is not bad)... and how I like the warm writing of Romance (I enjoyed Five Enough a lot)... but... the truth be told... I didn't pay too much attention to all this and what I really really did this week was...

... I rewatched the first two episodes of Well Intended Love (because I found better subtitles)... and I giggled and swooned again 😊

... I swooned with Yoon Seo in Heart (*cough* Jang Ki Yong *cough* 😍 ...and that Descendant sequence 😂 )

... I giggled with Dani in Romance. 😊

... and I hysterically laughed watching both Bom's in Spring (Lee Yuri and Uhm Jiwon are sooo good here!) 😂😂

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My Strange Hero It was a nice drama. Not the kind I will want to rewatch but the story and the characters were pleasing.

Clean With Passion for Now I will miss it. It was funny and the couple was moving, I loved how they helped each other :)

The Crowned Clown I'm really curious about the rest of the story now they killed the King. I still love the music!

An Empress's Dignity I really want the end because it became more tiring than funny to watch.

Best Chiken I watched it for Lee Seung Hyub and just love his voice :p

Romance Is a Bonus Book I don't want the heroes to become a couple. I like their friendship like that.

It was a tranquil week with the end of CWPFN and My Strange Hero, only one episode of The Crowned Clown...

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Oh, someone else who watched Best Chicken! I'd never seen Lee Seung Hyub in anything before but I found myself looking forward to his scenes just to hear his voice.

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He's a singer/rapper/guitarist/pianist and the leader in N.Flying band. He only had small roles for now, like a bully in Save Me or in web drama.
I think he would be great in a radio show :D I love hear him when he's a guest in radio show. But as band, he often has concerts in Japan, so it's complicated.

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Legal High
Touch your Heart
Bashing later on

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I'm curious about your Legal High bashing 😁 (I assume you watched the Japanese original...)

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@vivanesca @javinne that's what i called an extreme reaction.
We all do normalize stuff by naming to make a point.
@javinne This is what modern world is. No human culture is inherently better than other culture. Everyone is scrooge in their own ways.

LEGAL HIGH - @dorotka @fanwho and it was meh. Japanese have whole stream of crazy and eccentric characters. Its in Japanese characters dna. They inherit this trait and its all about psychology. You have seen these kinds of characters by dozens so by default you readily accept them(related to specific tv media and culture). Here it didn't look like quirky,weird or even freakish. It actually looked forced and out of place.
Seriously, hero speaks mumble-jumble and i have to clap here. 1st week usually is character setup week but writer was too much into copy-pasting traits of a Japanese character into an Korean guy.

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Oh 🙁 ...I haven't watch yet... but I had High Hopes...

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I partly disagree. Someone like Komikado could work in jdrama, kdrama or even american tv series. It only needed a good character study, which the writer obviously didn't bother with. It wasn't even a copy paste. Writer seemed to write out general things about main lead. Komikado gave importance to his public image, but the episode starts with random people talking about how crazy and pervert he is and him doing random poses. Komikado was also holding himself differently, he spoke fast when he was making a point and dramatised in the court cases, here Jin Goo was serious only in a train scene. Because of good writing, humor in jdrama is grotesque, here it is a slapstick comedy. Koreans could do better. If it was written by the writer of Chief Kim, acted by someone like the professor from Sky Castle and directed in a more serious manner than it would probably be good.
You are right, jdramas have more eccentric and crazy characters, but I would say that it is because they have a better writers than kdramas have (or Japan makes less jdramas so only the best writers get the job). Japanese also don't have a working formula which leaves more space for creativity

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Geez. Sorry for long rant. I loved Legal High so much....I will probably complain about it for another week or two...

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Oh Chief Kim was such a feast of quirky characters and a good mix of comedy and seriousness... I hoped for something like that here... let's keep fingers crossed that Fiery Priest delivers (with the writer of Chief Kim)...

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@nerdy @dorotka Initially i liked Chief Kim but later on i added it into mediocre category. The 2 most liked shows on db in 2018 were Korean remakes of Japanese shows.
Writer did copy-paste superficial traits of character. More like adding adjectives to make the character attractive without having any depth. The point is writer not need to copy-paste a character even if its a remake. He/She can provide different traits and attributes to a chacracter. But here as usual korea scriptwriter shied away from both hard+smart work.

I don't have good opinion of korean writers. half the time they copy-paste stuff from Japanese media.

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Actually I am kinda happy to see another jdrama viewer here. Which jdramas are you watching now?

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Touch Your Heart - bleh. 1st episode 35minutes drop. This one is amateur porn. You can't take my kindness for granted. As i said earlier in another thread You can't have much expectations from a kdrama rom-com. Its brother of 2 weeks is also dropped. 3/10

Bonus Bonk - I intentionally used modified its name so no need to add porn tag with this one. Dropped. 3/10
Pretty faces can't g far. Meh story and meh acting. Direction is average. I don't car about the acting - it always feels the same.

SHALL WE FALL IN LOVE - 5/10 Chinese drama and Logic are not meant for each other. Though it does have good music and cringe romantic scenes and annoying side characters. As usual half of the drama is filler.
In Chinese drama you get extreme end of heroines. either they are too dumb and annoying or they are too much of mary sue. Male characters often are violent in their own ways.
I just can't understand how come these kinds of stories get approval and are produced as a show.

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Ha, I guess I was in the mood for "porn" this week 😁😁😁
Though... Touch Your Heart definitely didn't Touch My Heart (har har)... lots of over the top cliches (and stupidity) and over the top side characters... and I'm on the fence with this one. On the other hand I really like the warmth of Romance and how the side characters can shine as well...

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I like bonus bonk's main characters but then everything around it fel quite odd and superficial so i had to drop it. it had more -ve than +ve things and i said byebye right away.

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I was reminded a bit of "What's Wrong with Secretary Kim?". At least "Touch Your Heart" isn't promising anything original so we're less likely to to have our expectations crushed. It is what it is. I still have a lot of residual affection for Yoo In-na from "One More Happy Ending" three years ago.

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Babel - This is softcore porn. Its not a kiss - not a smooch but a complete makeout scenes. 3 + sex scene in just 2 episodes. Hero is quite horny.
Heroine cries - lets do a smooch scene turned into makeout'
Heroine drunk - let's sober her up with a makeuout
Heroine gets physically beaten and comes crying - SEX
Heroine is at her home - Let's comfort heroine with a makeout

Female actor and husband are doing good job but Main male actor lacks skills to play his character.
Pretty typical makjang revenge tv show. cliche but entertaining. Director things by hiding info or by revealing info by playing with time makes story super interesting. Cheap Trick.

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Wheew.. that's sound scary for me.. 😲
Thank God I give it a pass..

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Yuube - 8 out of 10. Easy dragon quest promotion manga to live-action with simple romance.
GaGaGa - manga is more funny but show is an easy timepass.

3 nen a gumi - pretty faces. average acting. easy time pass.

Liver or Die - not many are watching this show and many of those who were watching has left the show. I am watching this show with lot of interest. Its misery and bad events one after the another. characters annoy you, frustrate you, anger you but you can see where these characters are coming from.
10 episodes done - Every character is enough beaten so Now we can expect some +ve things and coming of age of mid 30s characters starts now. NAAAH it won't be that easy. Writer is beating these characters hard and will keep on doing so.

Bittersweet is the best taste.

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I watched the first episode of Coffee Friends with my mum, and she has taken a liking to Yang Se-jong 😂 She likes that he adapts fast to assorted tasks.

We both agreed that kaya is not a jam (they kept calling it "kaya jam" instead of just "kaya"), that the condensed milk ruins the french toast, but that the bread looks amazing.

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I believe what makes it a jam is the tangerine, no?

I mean, who doesn't love Yang Se Jong? He's such a cutie with his muttering.

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I think I'd classify it as a fruit-flavoured kaya, since it's made using the method for kaya, and not the way jam is made!

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And when YSJ went to the dish washer’s space and dried Yunho’s hands and showed him how to safely use the knife on the potatoes! I mean c’mon!

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show of hand..to answer your question on who doesn't love yang se jong :P
guilty!

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WHAAAAA?!!!

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as charismatic he is on screen, coffee friends for me ruined his persona.. real him is too underconfident, confused, can't even walk properly.. basically everything opposite of charismatic :( but he is a good kid.. however attractive personality not so much :(

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I don't like him much either. He always seems stiff and confused to me.

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The Last Empress

I was so mad when they turned Hyuk into a raving lunatic again. C'mon, he's come a long way since those early days, and it's no wonder he was rolling his eyes in all those crazy Hyuk scenes; he couldn't believe it himself. Sunny has turned into the very person she hated, cunning , conniving and manipulative. She didn't bother about Yoon's comatose state, it was all about the revenge plan for her. Woo Bin is just getting on my nerves; how many more times are they going to torture him? Yura is so beautiful and she just glows in that lady's maid attire, the Empress Dowager is awesome, I love her, the nanny is giving me a migrane with her I'm good/I'm bad scenes, Ari is heartbreakingly alone with nobody to guide her, and the adult princess is suddenly threatening to be nasty as well. Will everybody die in the finale? I say Sunny survives and Ari, as well. The rest will die horrific and heroic deaths. Can we have Hyuk die in a blaze of glory, please, saving Sunny or Woo Bin, or both? He's the reason I'm still watching this crazy drama to its bitter end.

Touch Your Heart

I love Yoo Inna. She's bubbly and sweet and sad beneath that ever-smiling exterior. The Grim Reaper is the perfect foil for her.

My favourite line: I didn't dodge this time. *melts*

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I forgot to add that I uploaded Chapter 9 of my fanfic yesterday. It's entitled The Emperor and the Sea. I was going to call it The Hot Man and the Sea, but I thought that was a bit too much.

Check it out here.

https://www.asianfanfics.com/story/view/1386079/oh-sunny-s-diary-lee-hyuk-s-confusing-me-romance

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His job is to be tortured...I'm waiting for the last trope to play out: 5% chance of surviving brain surgery to remove bullet.

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Touch Your Heart: Apparently, even my love for Yoo In-na wasn't enough to make me sit through 2 hours of cotton candy fluff. I found my finger hovering over the dreaded FF button throughout the eps, and I realized that it's probably better if I cut this one off much earlier. (That cameo of Jang Ki-young though, is soo~ much fun)

Now that I have one more empty slot in my currently watching list, I'll check Possessed's premiere eps next week to see how they are going to pull off the horror-comedy genre.

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Ugh, yes. After Goblin, I was really interested to see this couple together again in a different setting, but it was painful to watch. Why would Yoo In-na want to play a ditzy actress in skimpy dresses again? How is this character any different from her part in Queen Inhyun's man? And what are we supposed to do with an emotionally shut down Lee Dong-wook? Thaw him fast, please.

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I’m probably one of the few viewers who, while watching Goblin, which remains in the top three Kdramas I’ve seen, thought Sunny was the least interesting character, never rewatched any of her scenes unless they were with Reaper, and focused 99% on Reaper in their scenes together. I just didn’t particularly like the modern day incarnation of Sunny. The scenes between her and Reaper really suffered in comparison to the fantastc, highly entertaining, and yet moving bromance between Reaper and Goblin, and the sad, beautiful, fated love of Goblin and his bride. So I was never particularly interested in Touch Your Heart, and the comments here are confirming my reasons for being uninterested in watching this drama.

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i thought was the same for most..
Sunny was important because her scenes with reaper shone.. LDW did a phenomenal job and YIN had a great chemistry with him and supported him well.. she was excellent..

while reaper - sunny loveline was oozing with chemistry, reaper-goblin was comedy gold.. so to be fair, of the 4 leads, sunny had the least to show..indv. scenes don't really add much to the story

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I knew it’s not great since Jung Kyung Ho turned it down. I just never expected it to be this bad.🤦🏻‍♀️

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Romance is a Supplement: The leads, guys! The leads! I love the relationship between them & I love that the characters themselves are realistic dimensional people. Its honestly unfair how well LJS plays the guy pining after his lady love. The way he looks at his leading ladies can make anyone’s knees go weak. But while this particular power of LJS is no news, & I really don’t need to say much about his character because its all right there, I would also like to talk about the way Danyi’s eyes also soften every time she looks at Eunho. I love the way she doesn’t stop from telling him how much he means to her, & also shows it through her small gestures! Like secretly making food for him that exactly fits his palate, or enthusiastically eating the weird tasting hangover soup he made for her for the first time, saying how its the best thing she has ever tasted, all because he took the effort to do it for her. Or how about gently telling him to not bother about her at work because she didn’t want him to be distracted because of her. She waits for him when he comes home late, worries for him when he is drunk, sings for him when he needs some comfort. Also, she doesn’t mind asking for his professional criticism. Hello, well-characterized FL (at least so far), nice to meet you.

The Empress’ Dignity: It’s plain silly fun, this show. And I am also here for the slow-burn romance.

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Secret of the Three Kingdoms was so good until episode 8 or so, but it's starting to drag. It's hard to watch C-dramas when they're longer than 30 episodes because it affects the plot. Did anyone finish this drama and what are your thoughts?

The clothes, make-up and headgears are the most beautiful I've seen in a C-drama.

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I skipped a lot of episodes of Three Kingdoms. Watched the first 3 or 4 and skipped to the last 3 or 4. As much as I like Elvis Han I didn't think his acting was very good in that drama. I loved him in Wu Xin: Monster Killer and wish Viki or somebody would air it with subtitles. I liked Siege in Fog too, though most hated the ending. I figure if it's a drama taking place in the Republican Era, it's gonna have a tragic ending. I'm waiting to watch Never Gone til it has more episodes.

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I should follow your technique of watching the first and last few episodes. After NIF, I just want to watch another really good period C-drama, but nothing has caught my attention.

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I'm in a slump, and I have a confession to make. I didn't finish Encounter, stopped watching at episode 11. I tried hard, really.. but it got sooo boring then i decided it's not worth my time anymore. I'm sorry my lovely bogum, i still love you.

TOUCH YOUR HEART :
The only reason i decided to watch it was because it's one TVN asia, express from korea. But then i was glad that i watched it. I really like both of the leads, and it's giving me major Goblin's vibe. Cannot say much for now, but only that i enjoy it so far. 2 cute first episodes.

CLEAN WITH PASSION FOR NOW :
Im trying to finish the last 4 episodes, but I'm unimpressed. Maybe i should just skip to the very end. It's sad, because i really like it at first, and YKS is such a big teddy bear.

FANTASTIC DUO :
South Korean singers really do have great voices. And then came the amateur singers, just wow. They really need to be known more than just the land of Kpop, boybands, and girlbands.

KINGDOM :
I need more!! I finished all 6 episodes in one sitting, and i really love it. And oh, that smoldering look from the crown prince, rawrrr!

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Ooh.. i forgot. I also finished BLACK LEATHER NOTEBOOK (2017). It was only 8 episodes, and i watched it together with my husband. Emi Takei is gorgeous!

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Just "Romance is A Bonus Book" interested me this week. Tried to watch "Touch Your Heart" episode one, but I ended up doing something else. I know the story is not new; but still... it's not "punching" enough to make me glue to the screen. Skipped "Empress Dignity", and I'll wait for the final episodes next week, and marathon them.

Liking "Coffee Friends" more and more... And the new menus have raised the donation. Happy for them to raise more than $1,500. Hope they will have more donation this week.... I ended watching "Three Meals A Day: Gochang Village." Loving Cha for caring for other people, like he cooked what Joo-Hyuk's favourite meals; and asked Hojun to return the scallion for the "kids" ice cream, LoL. And I can see how Hojun was finally feeling relax in Gochang.

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After what felt like a super long hiatus because of my hectic schedule- I’m finally back for good!

Decided to kick off with Noona romances because my new neighbor is into kdramas and TV shows and invited me to watch! 🙌🙌

Encounter I’m on ep 4 and I really love the whimsical musicality and soft reddish hues the drama is filmed with. It’s perfect so far, as a show to watch before sleeping. Not that it’s boring but cause it’s so comfortable and floofy (not a word but whatever). I’m more interested in Soo Hyun and her complex spider web rather than Jin Hyuks almost too happy pixie personality. Either way I’ll be sticking with it for the long run. Wish more could’ve been filmed in Cuba though, without the soundtrack breaking in between scenes.

Pretty Noona I started this long back but put it on hold after hearing disastrous reviews about the latter half. But the first few eps are so mushy and the chemistry sizzles! So we decided to just fast forward to our main couples scenes and avoid everything else. It’s cheating but 🤫

Stranger Things S1 It’s not Korean but I finished it off as a buddy watch last weekend. After watching dramas for so long it’s weird seeing 40 min eps as they breeze by. Loved our 4 kid squad and the banter between them, Hopper and Will’s family. I was expecting more overall, but it was an enjoyable watch.

Will unpause: Children of Nobody, SKY Castle, 12 Nights
Will eventually Start: Crowned Clown, Romance is a Bonus Book, Trap, Spring Must be Coming, Kingdom

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LOL, cheating with pretty noonna!! 😂
Let me tell you, even if you only watch the leads together, you might end up disappointed.... just in case...
Encounter is cute. As a noona romance, it is better than pretty noona (my humble opinion), and cinematography and music are really good. The artistic animations are also very nice. Symbolism is interesting.

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Seems like I have to bury my expectations for Pretty Noona 😂😂

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Let me know if you finish it...

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Gloria
This week I realize I love Bae Doona more than any of my oppars. She could make me finished a mediocre 50 episodes soap opera in six days! Or...maybe I just miss the old telenovelas with their usual set up of hardworking but poor Candy with Chaebol. Beside Bae Doona's amazing performance, I can't really tell you what makes Gloria special. I love Memory Lane family and their interaction in Halmeoni's boarding house. I love the main couple and their cheesy interaction. As expected, of course there's frustrating time and logic fail in a 50 episodes drama, but I decided just to brush it off and watched what I enjoy. I can see myself rewatching this drama many many times in the future.

Touch Your Heart
I love woo bin the grim reaper more than this lawyer. He's so cold....whyyy?? I loved that woobin fell head over heel for sunny, and he became very awkward around her. I don't see it here. Sunny is perfect, she's amazing as a bad actress. I will keep calling them with their Goblin's name because let's be honest here, I won't watch this drama if it's not for Sunny and Woobin

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You want to know why you do not feel much for Kwon Jung-rok, the lawyer? Because almost the entire focus of the first two episodes was on Oh Yoon-seo the actress. At this point what we know about Kwon Jung-rok is that he is dedicated to his work, and that he has high expectations for himself- but that he does not demand as much of others. We have only been given hints about his past while we have been given a lot if information about our bad actress.

At this point it seems the only thing that we may know about Lawyer Kwon's past is that it appears that he once competed for the affections of the pretty prosecutor Yoo Yeo-reum with his best friend the returned prosecutor Kim Se-won- and lost. Yoo Yeo-reum was later dumped but has not gotten over Se-won, who has just decided to camp out in Jung-rok's home.

Given the way that Lawyer Kwon sprang to the defense of Oh Yoon-seo when she had her car accident. his willingness to accommodate his friend (with suitable protests), the earnest but serious way he counsels his clients, etc. Lawyer Kwon appears to resemble the gruff, prickly Chaebols that you miss: All tough on the outside but really a marshmallow on the inside- in fact his cold mannerisms are a protective mechanism developed as a way to avoid be taken advantage of.

Let us hope that we get to learn about his story in the next episodes.

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You help me to understand his character more than two hours I spent yesterday trying to decipher him, thanks 😄
I don't expect much from Touch Your Heart, I just want to watch light and fluffy romcom, but it will be better if I could love the couple.

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That is all that I want too. It appears that we might get a pair of male and female second leads in the form of the two prosecutors. This would generate a lot of comedy with the focus on romance.

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I wonder if the point is that the she is the main character of the drama? My Korean is very bad, but her real name is Oh Jin Sim. Lawyer Kwon insists on calling her that, and it sounds a lot like the word "sincerity" in Korean. So, her name is actually in the title "Reach of Sincerity" (Jinsimi Dadda).

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It is not that she is the main character as such but rather her story is the thread that connects all the main characters together. This possibly means that getting to the bottom of how her scandal actually occurred and who was responsible for framing her will be a part of this story.

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The thing about romcoms is I always look forward to the angsty parts more. Romcoms just by themselves are so boring.
4 act Asian storytelling: 1) introduce your characters, 2) develop your characters more in depth 3) introduce a complication that doesn't seem to relate to 1 and 2 (unless you've seen so many dramas you know they're going to relate) and 4) reconcile acts 1 and 2 with act 3. So far they've introduced the characters, developed the female, so yes, you're right, it's his turn now. Act 3 will be the angst.

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Because this show looks to be weighted more towards the comedic I would not disregard the other two major characters: The male and female prosecutors. So the plot lines will likely or at least could possibly be a little more complex.

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Cold Case s2: the last three episodes redeemed the drama in my eyes. They were so good; it brought back all the feelings of s1 and made me wonder what went wrong this season: did they pick up the wrong scenarios from the original? Did they hire the wrong writers?
Anyway, i would watch a season 3 and even more if they can fix it for good because this ensemble cast is too good to let it go.

Nusumareta Kao: Miatari Sosahan (3/5): i picked it on whim and don't know what to make of it. Its' a WOWOW's drama in all its excess and qualities: atmospheric and hypnotic in a unsettling way like a David Lynch's show/film, but not making much sense and with a lot of plot holes. Also it's a mature drama that doesn’t shy from sexy and violent scenes and I must admit i didn’t expect it to go this road.
It's short enough for me to stick with it but i refuse to have expectations: let the end be what it will be.

Stepmother and Daughter blues (5/10): i stopped at ep5 because i have been sadly spoiled about ep 6 and i'm not ready to face what's coming.
I was so ready for a family comedy about a new stepfamily trying to make sense of their non biological connection and to create happiness for each other. But it’s not taking this road, isn’t it?

At first, I was rooting for the main couple to fall for each other, to ignore the contract which started their relationship and stay married for real, but after 5 episodes it doesn’t seem true to Akiko’s personality to do it. I feel that she’s being manipulated into believing that her fear for Miuki’s father health and her gratefulness for being accepted in their family was love. I can’t shake the feelings that if Miuki’s father clearly wants this relationship, Akiko is more uncertain but doesn’t know how to say no (the romantic dinner at the restaurant was a fail), after she agreed to marry him and to live with him (and his daughter whom however she embraced completely as her own child). It really hurts to feel this way: the cute family scenes are so adorable and filled with optimism, I almost curse myself for not being able to enjoy them.

I wanted too a strong female lead and though Ayase Haruka served perfectly her character and made her Akiko everything i want an modern young heroine to be: conflicted between the pressure to socially and financially succeed and her desire to get in touch with her warm emotions, free from the social expectations on feminity and assuming her independence and strong will; the sexist script undermined a lot of her efforts.

That’s a pity because there’s so much to love about her personality. She’s really well defined and so relatable in the way that she's repressed emotionally and have a hard time to create emotional intimacy, that she doesn't dream of romance and isn’t looking for maternity in the usual way (she doesn’t look like she wants to experiment giving birth without being sterile), that her career was important enough for her to give all...

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that her career was important enough for her to give all she had for it but can recognize that it was only a period in her life.
But I fear that she won’t get much character development: her attitude made her at times too much a manga character/cartoonish and not enough a real person to give me hope that the drama will improve.

Nonetheless, I can see why this drama was the biggest hit of last summer and I’m happy to have find a drama which brings positivity without bending too much reality.

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My wife and I have just finished watching “Goblin”. It was great to see it again and my wife loved it. And now we can all watch “Touch Your Heart” which has Lee Dong-Wook & Yoo In-Na as the leads and they still have the same hairstyles that they had when they played The Reaper and Sunny in “Goblin”. At least one of the minor characters (played by Park Kyung-Hye) was also in “Goblin”. I have watched the first two episodes and so far it is good. It is a rom-com but the emphasis is on the comedy. “Touch Your Heart’ is a comedic pleasure from the beginning.

I finished ‘Clean With Passion For Now’. It has a happy ending but the show never really recovered from its hard turn into melodrama in episodes 14 and 15. I still enjoyed this show- the actors were great but they deserved better writers.

I also finished “Dae Jang Geum is Watching”. The final episode wrapped things up but in truth this show steadily lost momentum over its second half. It is my understanding that it was originally supposed to be an ensemble comedy with 12 episodes and a unique episode format. Midway it was suddenly transformed into a rom-com- and expanded into 16 episodes. This is like trying to convert a motorcycle into an SUV. Perhaps I heard wrong but somewhere along the line something went wrong.

I have now seen the first four episodes of “Romance Is a Bonus Book’. This is another first-class comedy although you need some patience to get through the first two episodes. “Romance is a Bonus Book’ has a host of interesting secondary characters and perhaps a mystery about a writer who chose to disappear.

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Please keep us apprised of how you compare LDW + WIN's chemistry in Touch Your Heart vs. Goblin. Today's the last day of the frustrating melo 20-hr Fates and Furies, starring Joo Sang Wook and Lee Min Jung who sizzled as ex-spouses in Single Cunning Lady. Fates and Furies proves to me that it's not enough for actors to have chemistry—the mushy direction and dithering script have nearly ruined what could've been wickedly good.

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Single Cunning Lady is a classic. In fact, I just brought home the DVDs from the library so that my wife can see it.

So far, in Touch Your Heart we do not see much- or maybe we do: The classic male and female initially reacting with irritation to this other person who seems to know how to push the right buttons. And, at the very end of episode two we see that our actress has become aware that Lawyer Kwon may be a nicer and better man than he first appeared to be, while Lawyer Kwon is visibly starting to bend in his dealings with her. But nothing is being rushed here, and this is good because it will give room for our other main characters to become involved.

And you are right about the importance of good writing and good direction. The best actors in the world cannot save a terrible script. And without good direction even with good writing something will always be off.

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@tsutsuloo

In early hallyu KDramas the actors struggled to keep up with the writing....now that is flipped. The actors are beyond than the writing.

Classic case in point: how the *%!* did So Ji-Sub sign up for "My Secret Terius"?

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Do not forget that not only was "My Secret Terrius" a successful show- but this is the show where he finally won a Daesang,.

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@OldLawyer Oh...I know.

Doesn't change my statement that to me, the actor was way above the writing.

There was a period where audiences were as excited about a writer's next drama as the were for their actor bias.

RE: KDrama awards: I will only point people to Dramabean's archive on the awards shows....

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Hello beanies! Hope you had an amazing week! I've finished Life on Mars and it was such an amazing show! ♥️ Will forever love our 1988 gang!

Gonna start on I Remember You for Jang Na-ra and Ziggie. I'm just not feeling JNR's look though. I'm hoping she's a badass cop!

Haven't watched Touch Your Heart. Will check out the recaps and the beanies' reactions if it's any good.

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Hi @waterhyacinth. LOM was my favorite drama of 2018.
I REMEMBER YOU/HELLO MONSTER is one of my all time favorites. I hope you enjoy it. Both sets of siblings (adult and child) are terrific. It is my only PBG drama so far but he made a big impact on me.

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LOM was my fav for 2018!

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Spring turns to Spring: That's called acting! I love all that happens in the show and its definitely funny and heart warming, I am already rooting for lead ladies!

Touch Your Heart That's what is called a great PPL show and Yoon ah is great in her role. It was much better than I expected.

The Silenced (2015 movie) I should be renamed, the making of strong woman do bong soon, the real story.

Kingdom Woah! where is season 2?

The last empress
When in need call for Min Yu Ra! She must be the most useful person in the whole palace. They can never live without her.

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To.Jenny such a sweet watch.

Coffee Friends ....Diner Dash. Yes. Lol. Just finished ep 2. I want all the treats. They look so delicious. Also, the yellow coffee cups and those glasses for the cold coffee. Sometimes it still surprises me how differently food is served than what I am used to. When they'd bring out the toast I expected it to be a single serving or everyone sharing the soup bowl.

Meteor Garden I'm finally in the 30s for ep count. I just want to see them date and be happy. Ok, I especially just want to see Dao Ming Si just date and be happy. He just wants to be her boyfriend so bad.

Romance is a Bonus Book ep 1. Enjoyed the set up and our two leads. Catch up is for my weekend watching. The hero, so far, has this sort of calm and slightly serious vibe that I like.

Boyfriend ep 4. I know it has mixed reviews, but honestly what doesn't? I am liking the quiet vibe of it. I'm a very private and guarded person so it is sometimes nice to see a character like that.

Crowned Clown ep 2. That second ep was painful. Very long episodes, but also very well done. I'm definitely not going to catch up, but might just be a slow one ep a week watch for me.

Top Star Yoo Baek one ep to go. This was just fun. Some of the humor was too broad for me and the subs are not great, but still look forward to every ep.

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I just caught To.Jenny a couple weeks ago. Watched it right before going to bed and the first thing in my head the next morning was
tiramisu cake
tiramisu cake
tiramisu cake ...

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Lol, I liked that the songs were so catchy and yet about the most everyday things.

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The Last Empress: still for Hyuk. Be better please~

Return: awesome mystery thriller. SSR is deliciously cray. And dare i say, i like Oh Tae Suk more than Hyuk, he's a calculative villain who makes his own decisions. Hahaha

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LIVER OR DIE: I can see why a lot of people are dropping this show. People who only seek pity will lead pitiful lives. You really can't root for any of the characters because irresponsible, stubborn, self-absorbed idiots who won't blame themselves for their own problems. The only lesson from this show is bad parents = bad children.
BEST CHICKEN: The show added some late conflicts but flat lined to one of the softest and milk toast (weak, timid, or bland) conclusions. I liked the characters and premise; it was like k-drama snack rather than a full course meal.
SPRING2SPRING: As I said before, the female leads are having so much fun with their characters it makes the show very enjoyable. However, it is looking to hit a hard plot wall as sudden switch trope needs to come to an end with other characters finding out the cat's out of the bag. If the only hope is Nerdy Bom recreating a complex formula in a junkyard alley, our leads are in trouble.

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ROMANCE IS A BONUS BOOK: It's an easy watch. I like both leads, especially the female lead, she's so strong mentally. I applaude her for that. Can't wait to see more.

MY STRANGE HERO: I will be honest here. I skipped most of this drama until Boksu and his love were boyfriend and girlfriend. I watched mainly Jo Bo Ah scenes since I like her a lot. But I must confess that I watched the last 4 or so episodes in full mode. It was a nice drama with great heart-warming scenes.

KINGDOM: Amazing drama!!! But s1 was only the introduction. I WANTED MORE!!! Now we have to wait for one more year...The zombies were scary like Train to Busan.

RAMPANT: I watched this movie after Kingdom and that was a very bad decision. Well, I liked the movie, but those zombie-vampire beings were not that scary, therefore, I missed the horror-thriller impact.

MONSTRUM: Another bad decision after watching Kingdom and Rampant. I didn't feel any horror. I was not sacred at all. The monster was kinda cute actually, except for the disease, gross. But nothing spectacular and the CGI was nothing great to be honest.

TOUCH YOUR HEART: I'm not really into rom-com, but this was captured my attention. Of course, if they didn't starred in Goblin, I wouldn't even bother to try. But it was a pleasant show, perfect to watch on my days to lift the mood.

ALONG WITH THE GODS: Well, I watched the first movie when it aired and I dropped after 10 min. However, I made a vow to watch it until the end in 2019. And I did it! AND I was glad that I did finish it! It was really a great movie and quite entertaining! I don't know if I'll watch the second one, so far I'm not interested. Usually, sequels tend to suck...

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i watched rampant before kingdom.. and kingdom bored me

its like you read potter first or lord of the rings

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Yes. That was my mistake. Actually, I should've watched Monstrum -> Rampant -> Kingdom. But I went for the best to worse. It should've been the other way round, so I got more and more disappointed as I watched those movies. But one good thing about Rampant, is that it gives a nice closer to the epidemic. I think you should try at least this one. Forget about Monstrum, waste of time.

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that's ny fear as well, that the other films would pale in comparison but i'll check out rampant since im now curious about it 😄

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Romance Is A Bonus Book: I finally watched the first three episodes on Netflix and found it boring. I’m not feeling the chemistry between the leads either which is a strikeout for me. I can watch about any drama if I like the OTP.

Touch Your Heart: I found the first two episodes of this drama boring too plus the drama “plot” feels old. I didn’t find it particularly funny, but at least they are trying to put the “com” in rom-com. I like Yoo In-na, but she’s played the ditzy actress before. Lee Dong Wook is about what I expected.

The Crowned Clown: Not much to say with only one episode this week but it looks like things are going to blow up next week.

Liver or Die: I pretty much dislike everyone and am disgusted by a couple of the plot lines, but for some reason, I’m still watching to see what the second half brings.

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THE CROWNED CLOWN Ep. 9: There was only one episode this week. Next episode promises to be intense. *buckles seatbelt*

REACH OF SINCERITY Ep. 1-2: AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH that DOTS parody sucked me right in, thanks @superwhopotterlock. I don’t like legal dramas, but there was hardly any legal stuff. I don’t like secretary dramas, but she’s not a real secretary. And the BTIOFL PD is a geeeenius at creative uses of PPL. Case in point: that Subway PPL 😂😂😂😂. I’ll keep watching for now.

MY STRANGE HERO Ep. 15-16: Final review. I loved the premiere, got bored in the middle with all the kissing, and smiled during the finale. Sometimes it’s better to have the romantic conflict at the beginning of the drama than thrown in towards the end. In short, Bok Soo is a Care Bear and his secret weapon is flower power. The end. 💮

BEST CHICKEN Ep. 11-12: I’m sad to see this one end. The story, although predictable, never dragged. I liked the grumpy female lead. MBN should consider making more youth dramas like this instead of rom-com hiccup Rich Man, Poor Woman. The use of “Lucky” OST was a nice tribute to BOYS OVER FLOWERS (it’s been 10 years since BOF!!)

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In Best Chicken, they used some other OST like Master Sun or My Girl too.

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Can't handle too much drama because I am sick this weekend, so I am watching old Running Man episodes ('cause laughter is the best medicine :P) and just started Plus Nine Boys. I think that will be an easy watch.

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Running man always makes me happy and Plus nine boys is a fun drama

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It is fun, and watching shows even only 5 years old is like traveling back in time without getting off the couch. I think, "Were we doing that/wearing that back then?" :)

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I hope you feel better quickly.

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Thank you, mugyoljoie!

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I believe how much you like a drama/show depends on the type of person you are/ your preferences as well as 'when' you watch it. Romance is a Bonus Book is a soothing cup of tea for me when my life is a complete mess right now. It's my remedy, the nice way of life giving me a piece of advice not to take things too seriously and that there are many more things in life to enjoy and appreciate.

So because of ecerything, I give this show a 10 out of 10, for possobly being the show I like the most this past year.

❤️❤️❤️😖😳

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just watching two dramas atm.

Criwned Clown cause I followed the original and coz YJG 😍 tho throughout the series I started to like chief lee

and to offset my sad mood coz of episode 8, reach of sincerity, which is a surprise for me, I never knew how much I love Yoo Inna until I saw her in a romcom again, god, she's so cute abd funny in this role 😆,

the show might be cliche but its all kinds of fun and that's all that really matters.

I really am sold on jung rok and yun seo pairing. wahhh, i need to see the next episode stat 😁😀

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I took a break from Kdramas and it seems like I have no inspiration to come back. I sought solace in Turkish dramas instead and currently, I am deep in that hole. Most of them are longer than most Korean dramas but I like it long if it is good.
If you like a little bit of action and melodrama I will suggest two of them. Icerde and Cukur.
Unlike Korean drama translating websites, Turkish series are completely dependent on fans' mercy. I even subscribed Netflix but they have only very few of them.
One thing I have noticed in most of the shows are secret keeping Heroines. They lie to the hero and most probably it is before they fall in love and later they kept on lying to him to cover the original lie. My god at the end it is all potahto potahto...
Currently watching
Halka ep 4
Vuslat Ep 4
Erkenci Kus 27 (not sure if I will continue)

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where to watch? and suggest a passionate intense kind of romance with really good otp

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Youtube is a good source if it is not available there you should look for them on facebook. There are closed groups which translate Turkish series but they won't put it into the youtube for the risk of getting blocked. Just search Turkish series with eng sub or something similar on facebook.
Passionate romance with good Otp? I am not sure, but the otp in Erkenci Kus had good chemistry but it is basically a rom-com. Try Siyah beyaz Ask. I didn't complete the last two or three ep but no need to worry. It has kind of a forced marriage premise and both the leads were kinda aggressive. The guy is a hitman and a little forceful as well but no worries there is no rape or forced kiss involved.
Ezel was my first drama. It also had a nice otp. IMDB has a list of Turkish dramas. Can you specify what you are looking for? Then maybe I can give more suggestions.

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romance that gives you the feels :)

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Try Kara sevda, I heard the romance will burn you. ^_^

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I only have Netflix, which turkish drama available there that you recommend?
I tried Protector but I don't like it.

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Depends on your taste. Ezel is an internationally popular drama. But before watching just read the plot from somewhere. The leads had amazing chemistry but the characters are a little complicated. Its like I hate you but I can't stop loving you kind of chemistry.

LoveBird or Calikusu, is also a good one I think. I haven't watched it but people usually recommend this. The leads are married and expecting a child now so you can fully get invested in their chemistry.
Kurt Seyit Ve sura, haven't watched this one also but the lead actor is really famous for his acting. It is a period drama and portrays the love of a Turkish officer and a Russian noblewoman.
If you like period pieces there are Resurrection and some others also.
20 minutes is also a good drama, it is on my watch list.
Gonul is also there, it had a really good beginning. Gonul's fiance is obsessed with her and even goes as far as to physically abuse her. The drama portrays her journey to escape from this and finding and falling in love again. I said the beginning was good because ending could have been done a little better. But anyways this is a nice one.
Sadece San is there acted by Ibrahim. It is a remake of some Korean film by So ji sub.
There are a lot of them on youtube and facebook. Just a reminder, the eps are about 2 hrs most of the time.
It also depends on your taste, I like action mixed with emotions.

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Thanks for your recommendations, I will check out some of these!

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Thanks!

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Yes!! Coffee Friends needs @mary to set up a computer order entry station and me to help wash dishes so that Yunho can escape! I can also make drinks, but don't ask me to cook. Call me, Yeonseok-nim!

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- TOUCH YOUR HEART: I thought I wasn't in a mood for a rom-com and watched it only out of curiosity for the leads together again. And it was FUN. Yoo In-na is hilarious. The second episode wasn't as brilliant as the first, but fun anyway.

- THE CROWNED CLOWN: there will be troubles, and troubles, and troubles. But, meanwhile, how cute are those two together?
(Anyway, does anyone care about poor Court Lady Kim and her whereabouts?)

- ROMANCE IS A BONUS BOOK: so far, the perfect drama for the end of the week.

This week I've found myself restless and in need of something new to turn off my brain, so I watched some pilots:

- MOTHER: this drama will break my heart in lots of little pieces. Some of you recommended it to me, but I didn't think it was SO beautiful!!

- THE SINNER 2: an American show. A 13-years-old kills his father and his parner. Now I want to find out what was going on in that family.

- REVENGE NOTE 1: the young actresses are cute, but it's not my cup of tea.

- ROOM NO.9: a little heavy, but intriguing.

- SPRING TURNS TO SPRING: nice, but it won't be on the top of my watchlist.

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Mother will break your heart and also mend it.

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Hymn of Death - This show almost did me in. Tragedy done right with so much to feel. Although I can't approve the decision(s), it was portrayed as something that we can probably understand and might even empathise with.

RBB - ❤ A joy to watch. ❤ Show has got me invested in Dan-I's progress at work as well as in her 'growing up' in other areas of her life. Eun Ho continues to make noonas swoon as he starts to let himself go at last and to act on his long bottled up feelings. I love the book metaphors and the mystery of Writer Kang. This so far is a true rom-com ... rommy enough without needing much skinship and very commy with all the happily quirky character interactions. ❤ 😋

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I caught the first episode of 'Touch Your Heart' (I don't know if there are alt titles), that vehicle for the Goblin alums. The series appears to be soooo insubstantial that its fun to watch just to marvel at the producers' audacity putting it on the air in the first place. It makes 'You Who Forgot Poetry' seem like a grim melodrama in comparison.

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Mike

:D
I would watch KDramas with you.

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Touch Your Heart: I’m happy with how things span out by the end of episode 2. I like that this love-hate banter isn’t just dragging on and on. Also, those PPL moments are gold. If you’re gonna have PPLs might as well go all out and have that be a part of the character. Haha

Can’t wait for Trap this weekend!
(Also The Item bc I gotta balance out all the cotton candy sweetness with some grit and blood.)

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Currently watching: Queen of No Marriage: A little bit dramatic and unbelievable but full of genuine quotes/advices. Sometimes funny, sometimes tear inducing. Liking it so far. Tribute to Name that drama

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Queen of No Marriage stars Cheryl Wang, one of my favorite actresses. And it was recently remade (in 2014) by the Koreans as "A Witch's Love". Both are fun

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I’m starting to see the awesome acting by this actress as well! Especially the scene when she finds out the truth about what happened to her ex-bf. I’ll probably hold off the Korean version until much later so as not to compare to two too much.

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Story of MingLan: Last week I would be happy for another 20 episodes but this week I hit the wall. The Kang story is going on too long for me so though this is definitely one of the best C-dramas I've ever seen, I will happily watch it conclude in the next week or two as I have no doubt the quality will continue to be top notch.

I have all sorts of dramas I've started and need to jump back into, but find myself starting Romance is a Bonus Book which I'm continuing because I've heard episodes 3 & 4 is when it gels. I also find myself interested in Haechi and the drama about supernatural items (sounds kind of like Warehouse 13/The Librarians) whose name I cannot recall.

Also Viki got the two dramas I was watching when DF went kerplunk so slowly waiting for those to be subtitled. Devilish Joy wasn't anything spectacular, but I only had 4 episodes left and, honestly, I'm just happy Viki paid some licensing so maybe the poor actress can get paid now.

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Guess you haven't heard MingLan has been extended for several extra episodes? I don't remember how many, maybe 5 or so.
Re Devilish Joy, if I don't like it I don't finish it. Same for books. Even if there's only 4 episodes left. But I think I only made it thru about 4 episodes of this one.

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I'm curious enough about the mystery element and I like the romance in Devilish Joy to finish it. The lead couple actually has quite a bit of chemistry even if the story is just so so. I not too long ago dropped a drama with 1 1/2 episodes left so, yeah, I get it. Life is too short.

With regard to MingLan, I've heard they chopped up the episodes to provide more episodes but obviously no more content as C-dramas are entirely preproduced and through the censors before airing.

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There's a site I use that listed all the c dramas in 2019 that have either extended episodes or cut episodes. I was wondering how they were going to add episodes to the one I'm most looking forward to in May: Majesty of Wolf. It was filmed a couple years ago, so my guess is what you're saying about it is correct.
Here's the link:http://www.dramapanda.com/2019/01/nrta-reveals-dramas-with-episode-count.html?fbclid=IwAR1Y0tPoBhd13NBHKXS_LwIyEL8DwwmlutuOnV5TKsBcKrv6z778qGfjbkE

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Yeah, someone on MDL said they are going to be putting the last 5 to 10 minutes of the previous episode to start a new episode. This seems to be a money grab at this point but it is easy enough to skip so I guess I am not too irked by it if this ends up being the truth of what they are doing.

I just realized that the Kang woman, as I call her, played the mom on Ashes of Love. The one who put the no love bead in her daughter. I already realized that ChangBae (2nd brother) is the actor who played her father.

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So did you watch Ashes of Love? I know it's extremely popular, best fantasy of the year, blah, blah, blah, but I simply have not been able to get past how annoying I find the female lead. Please tell me to try again, since I'm inching toward 50 dramas on my to watch list and need a couple more to add...

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I really liked Ashes of Love though it, of course, has its flaws. The clueless female lead cracked me up because of the no love bead. Again though, like the actress in MingLan, if she's not your cup of tea or you can't buy into the character I'd pass. It's one thing to recommend a 12 or 16 episode drama but C-drama is a whole other commitment. ;)

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@sorrynotsorry: I don't mind the lengthy dramas at all, especially the Chinese ones that are only about 40 minutes long. I had read the love bead isn't removed until late in the series so I wasn't sure I could stand her cluelessness for that long. Knowing I have to be in just the right mood for something I'll keep trying. Unlike Minglan because I finally figured out what I don't like about the actress is whenever she's in a scene, the way she moves and acts takes me out of the story.

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So few I hesitate to comment (but I will):
TOUCH YOUR HEART/REACH OF SINCERITY: I was determined to not like it and I didn't like the first 5 minutes because I thought they made her too ditzy. But by the end of the 2nd episode it "touched my heart". Great writing, pacing, comedy (which I usually tire of and can hardly wait for the angst) and literally (and I mean that literally) for the first time ever I have 2nd lead syndrome. Then I found out Lee Sang Woo is the guy who married Kim So Yeon, so oh, yeah, I'm up with that.
While I was waiting for something new I decided to re-watch the modern Chinese drama about drones, starring William Chan:
ONLY SIDE BY SIDE WITH YOU: I must have skipped a bunch of stuff before because there are a lot of scenes I don't remember. It's okay, but filled with so many flashbacks that are used for filler - because there's not much story to tell. And it's basically propaganda for Chinese drones, but oh, well, William Chan and Bai Bai have a lot of chemistry, so what are you going to do.
Looking forward to: The Item, mostly because of the actors. But I'm a bit skeptical as the promo on Viki is an hour long and way too promotional. When that much promo is given it usually means the drama (or film) isn't very good. We'll see.
Glad I'm so pleasantly surprised with TOUCH YOUR HEART as I said some fairly mean comments about the first five minutes.
I know I've watched AN ORIENTAL ODYSSEY too many times when I start ff to all my favorite parts with Zhen Ye Cheng. Can someone please make a video of just his scenes?? Pretty please?

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What Chinese dramas are you watching now. I am still trying to catch up with Ever Night. I am update with I Never Let You Go.

Story of Ming Lan is on my list to watch later and that Flowing River. I know there is new Chinese dramas are out without English sub. 😭

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My favorite drama is Oriental Odyssey and I keep watching it over and over. Not most people's favorite though. I have Ever Night on the watchlist but I've only watched the first episode. Flowing River on the watchlist, as well as Bloody Romance, I Will Never Let You Go and about a half dozen others! I'm trying to watch The Legends on YouTube wj/o subs since I don't speak Chinese, but it's difficult. I'm reading the novel, which is really good and fun. Here's the link if you're interested:
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/ostentatious-zhao-yao/

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So, I have this image of @linda-palapala grumpily watching Touch Your Heart with your hands ever so slowly moving towards your heart. *clutch!*

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Aw @tsutsuloo, you've touched my heart!

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30 but 17: It was a cute drama.

Ever Night: I am up to episode 31. The girl in white show up. So far, it was getting good. I hope them being in Wastland is good battle. I am curious of who is Shrine Leader.

I Never Let You Go: I am caught up with raw and with English sub. I love it.

Fate and Fury: I am up to episode 11. It is getting really good. I love the music and cinematography. However, PPL of coffee is way too much. Lol I am gonna continues to watch it.

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I love Chen Fei yu! So disappointing he won't be in season 2 of Ever Night, and from the stills/videos I've seen of Dylan Wang, I'm not that happy.

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Sky Castle: Final rating, 10/10

My Strange Hero: Final rating, Joy/10

The Crowned Clown: With only one episode this week I decided to wait till I had one more. I also needed a breather after the emotional wringer of episode 8. Yeo Jin-gu is extraordinary. It's worth watching for him alone.

Romance is a Bonus Book: I'm still on the FINSE about this show but it has all the elements to make it great. They just need to pull it together and deal with the daughter elephant. Watch this space.

Clean With Passion: I dropped this. Hahahahaha. I'm so happy! The Year of Dropping is the best. I'm the master of dropping. Watch me drop.

Best Chicken: DROPPED

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Hmm, we might have a bit of a contest over who's the master of dropping. So is Joy/10 a yes or a no?

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It's joy! It's a yes! It bypassed my brain and spoke directly to my endocrine system. Joy is all I got.

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So, Strange Hero added. Inching ever closer to 50 dramas to watch.

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The Crowned Clown continues to enthrall me. I might need to set up a shrine to PD-nim. She’s brilliant and everything shines—music, acting, costumes, cinematography, sound editing. I’ve already written about my visceral reaction to the show but was astonished at a new sensation while watching Ep. 9. I kid you not—my shins tingle every time I see Ha Seon and So Yoon together on screen. My shins!. (Is this my new method of judging killer chemistry?)

Fates and Furies finishes today. I initially loved the aesthetics and the languorous story telling but was quite frustrated from Ep. 22-32. Last week finally kicked into gear and my fingers are crossed that it will end satisfactorily. Note to @trina—you picked a good time to start the series. I think it’s a great show to binge and you’ll be able to quicken the pace during the plodding bits.

The past couple months I’ve been revisiting the work of Gong Hyo Jin, one of my favorite Korean actress. I first saw her in It’s Okay, That’s Love (2014) and was blown away by her warmth, intelligence and sexuality. Then I giggled non-stop through The Greatest Love (2011) with Cha Seung Won. I finished 2013’s The Master’s Sun, admiring how she makes the sexy-but-wooden So Ji Sub come alive.

Watching The Master’s Sun also made me realize how the Hong Sisters recycled elements from their older show into Hwayugi. Reworked concepts included:

1. The ghost who made women crazily obsessive about their looks.
2. A creepy doll containing souls
3. Gong Shil mentions expelling ghosts from a haunted house and flipping it for a great profit.

Looking forward to Kim Nam Gil’s The Fiery Priest because he’s my first k-drama love and Item for Kim Kang Woo being very, very bad in very nice suits.

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I second what you say on Fates and Furies. A lot I liked but it kinda went sideways for a while. Hope it ends in some coherent manner.

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I just saw Greatest Love while searching thru kdramas on Viki - so should I add it? Fiery Priest had better be on Viki or else!
Fates and Furies: thought about it, so you rec/d? What else has PD Nim done that you'd rec'd?

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Oh yes, @linda-palapala, I recommend adding Greatest Love to your watch list! I'd seen the show rattling around for ages but even Cha Seung Won couldn't convince me to see it. Once I knew who Gong Hyo Jin was, I was sold. Her character is wonderful—impish, kind, resilient with lots of heart. There's a cute cross-generational friendship between CSW's Dok Ko Jin and the FL's nephew. Also worth noting—two old-school shower scenes with CSW. He is a fine ahjussi.

Re. Fates and Furies—I recommend that folx who started should finish because the last four hours (Ep. 33-40) were deliciously revenge-y. It was frustrating to watch live but bingers will have a better experience. I'm not kidding about the middle portion; it was seriously flaccid. I blame the writer and director for not making the most of their cast. Plus, I know I can storyboard a G-rated bedroom scene better than those idiots. (Which I may have to do because it's driving me crazy.)

PD Kim Hee Won most recently helmed Money Flower (2018), featuring Jang Hyuk as one of the smexiest revenge-driven characters I've ever seen.

She directed Fated to Love You (2014) which started Jang Hyuk and two actors from The Last Empress— Jang Na Ra (Sunny) and Choi Jin Hyuk (Woo Bin). Perhaps you've already seen the Chinese original starring uri Ethan Juan called You're My Destiny? 😉

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Actually, I've watched the Taiwanese version of You're My Destiny with Ethan Juan/Ruan - several times (just to look at Ethan, who is also a fine but underrated actor who has the plus of not only being a Scorpio but also same b'day as my daughter's b'day). In fact it's still on my Watch list. I could go on and on about Ethan Ruan's fine qualities...
I hated the Korean version of Fated. intensely dislike Jang Hyuk and previously Jang Na Ra, who redeemed herself in my eyes with Empress. The first time I saw Choi Jin Hyuk was his awesomeness as the (demon?) in Gu Family Book.
Fates, I might just tune in for ep 33-40 to see delish revenge. Greatest Love: when I looked, I had already added it to my watch list!

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Hee hee—I thought you might hate Jang Hyuk!😜 We are agreed on Ethan Juan though. Thx for correction on country of origin.

I must admit that I often watch not-great shows just because the actors are pretty or I love their clothes. Which indicates tsutsuloo is in serious procrastination mode. 😜😜😜

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😄 I'm currently watching Fated to Love You😁 I'm enjoying it. Although, I'm already in ep. 15 and I still can't get used to Jan Hyuk's joker's laugh. On the other hand, Choi Jin Hyuk is totally giving me 2nd lead syndrome vibes 😍😊

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The laugh. I also found Jang Hyuk's laugh in FTLY jarring and offputting, but as you continue watching, your opinion of the laugh will likely change. I don't want to say why, as it is something of a spoiler, but when I rewatched the drama later, the laugh was revealing rather than annoying.

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I loved Fated to Love You! Jang Hyuk’s character grew on me, even the laugh. It’s one of the few dramas that actually made me cry.

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I loved Jealousy Incarnate with Gong Hyo Jin. The first episodes are a little bit weird but after it's great.

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