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Open Thread #593

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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Happy weekend Beanies! Happy new month!

Moonlight Drawn By Clouds is indeed a great K-drama, but gaaargh I was rooting for Yoon-Sung!  The worst part: naturally I spoiled myself while it aired 2-3 years ago, so I knew this would happen. My heart shattered anyway. Do not get me wrong, this K-drama and its OTP are great (Bo-Gummy, DUH), but Yoon-Sung is one of these second leads I would not mind wooing in real life, if I had the guts that is.

Anyway, I will be able to join in on the squeefest once I am done mourning. I even considered sending in an entry about Yoon-Sung and Ra-On this month, but Yoon-Sung has more to offer than second lead status, so I guess I will drabble some ode of sorts instead, we’ll see.

Romance is a bonus book: I am torn about whether I should start this one or not. I am reading the recaps and skimming the episodes, so I sort of know what is going on….but I don’t think I will like the OTP, which is what the story seems to be all about. Our second lead pairing, the publishing company setting and its employees on the other hand…It also seems to contain a lot of wisdom that I can use at the moment.

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Hi! I suggest to give Romance is a bonus book a chance. It's not a masterpiece, but it's warm and enjoyable. I found the first episode depressing, but then the show improves and all the characters have space in the story.

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Reading your post brought back good memories of watching Moonlight Drawn By Clouds! Such a good drama!

Definitely give Romance Is A Bonus Book a try and see what you think. As has been posted, the first episode is not particularly cheerful and I also found the second episode a little iffy. But I stuck with it and I have to say things are falling into place quite nicely.

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I was a third of the way through 'Clean With a Passion For Now' before I realized the lead actress was the faux eunuch in 'Moonlight Drawn By Clouds'.

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He's one of my favorites as well, swooningly perfect.

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I really like Romance is a bonus book. Moonlight? Not so much -I felt Kim Yoo-jung looked too young (I was annoyed because OST was played everywhere when I was in Korea lol). But I loved the second lead too.

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You're right, I don't really like the OTP of RBB. I love Lee Jong-suk and Lee Na-young as separate actors, but when they were announced as the leads, I just couldn't appreciate that pairing. The characters they play could make a good couple though. It's worth a try if you have the time.

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I really like how strong that second lead’s game was. He played the part of playboy and knew his handsomeness, but had a really selfless heart, and it was hard to see his sacrifice.

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I wrote it on a fan wall, but again I miss Kim Seul Gi and Kim Se Jeong on screen!

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I miss Kim Seulgi, too.

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happy friday, everyone!
I’m not an active participant of Open Thread. But I come here, time to time, because i love reading the comments.

I haven’t been that avid drama viewer these years. I only watched Signal, Goblin, Just Between Lovers, Because it’s the first time, Mister Sunshine, and Sky Castle (to the final episode) in the past few years.

I started watching The Light In Your Eyes.
It started out fine, until HyeJa changed after that incident. I mean, it’s too heart breaking to watch her older self, especially when she get the sentiment of the elderly while she’s mentally 25 years old.
But, as the story goes on, I think I should drop the drama, since I have lost my interest in the storyline. Believe me, if i get to list all of those drams that i dropped in the early episodes, i think i might get a lot more than those that i had actually finished.

What i am really an avid fan of is, Na PD’s shows, Youn’s kitchen and now Coffee Friends. I just love to watch without any particular reasons. I really want to have Son Ho Joon’s hand drip coffee (sour flavor), hehe.

Again, happy weekend everyone.

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For me HyeJa starts to grow mentally because of that old lady transformation. She starts to understand and look at others with eyes opened, not to be just egocentric like she was at the beginning.

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I agree. Actually I want to see Joon-ha's growth with (old) Hye-ja's help (this will come?). But so far it seems they focus more on Hye-ja getting adjusted to her new old self, and her own growth.

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I'm having trouble watching this too. I might stop it until it finishes actually and then watch it all at once. It's low-grade stressful for me to watch, and I don't need stress right now. However, I think it's a great premise and the characterizations are really accurate!

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I like the idea and the actors... But I really coulnd't stand the siblings and their lfe, where the parents are working hard and they are living and acting like teenagers... I want to watch because I love the cast to pieces, but I can't go pst ep 3!

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Stressful to watch is the right word. I can't place my finger on the why, but I really feel anxious after watching an episode of this show. I'm putting it on indefinite hold.

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@greenfields, it’s the same stress I felt with my ahjusshi, but I expected it with that one. This one I was expecting more humor, which I’m getting from Ho-jun’s character, but no one else.

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you explained what i feel exactly.

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'The Light In Your Eyes' really is heartbreaking, and its not just due to the age change in the lead, but because everyone's life in that little neighborhood is just so sad an bleak. The love interest bilking old folks out of their money at the community center is about as dark as I've seen a non-murder-mystery K-drama go.

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Hi Everyone! I hope you are all doing well today!

And just like that it's the month of March. What? Already?

The Last Empress - One more episode left to watch! ..... I'm going to miss this crazy bunch.

Neighborhood Lawyer Jo Deul-ho 2 - Down to watching an episode and a half at a time. I don't think I'm missing much in the parts I'm not watching.

Romance Is A Bonus Book - Enjoying how this is moving along. ..... I liked Eun-ho's rejection letter to Hae-rin. And I have to say that since this drama started, I've been liking the variety of coats Eun-ho's been wearing.

Trap - Episode 5!! Episode 5!! Episode 5!! ..... then there was Episode 6!! Episode 6!! Episode 6!! ..... What a week with this show!

That's all for now. Everyone take care and and have a great Friday!

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I can't wait to go home and watch Trap- final episode- really?

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@fanwho I think we're all reallllly looking forward to that last episode!

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Is Trap as fear-inducing and stressing as i imagine it to be? I tried to watch and fifteen minutes in i thought, "AAARGH! I love Seo-jinnie but this is so not for me." Is it the fugitive innocent man pursued by cops type of drama that i fear?

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You have to pay attention. It is just damn good television.

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You are tempting me. I might jump in. Thanks.

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@scifiwritir Not going to lie, blood and death are definitely features of the first two episodes in particular. I wouldn't say there's a pursuit in the fugitive sense, but um, people are after people. I want to refrain from saying anything else for fear of giving away details. While I wouldn't say it's fully fear-inducing, it is unsettling. It is twisty though so it makes for quite a good show.

One thing's for sure, I don't think we've ever seen Lee Seo-jin in a show like this.

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I might just brave it. Thank you.

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Hi korfan, I had to laugh because I'm saying March, finally! Hae-rin is really quite cool about everything. I like her a lot.

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@owl22 Heh! Whatever we think of March's arrival, let's hope it's a good month for us all! :) So far, I like Hae-rin also!

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I haven't been watching any dramas except RBB. Hopefully that will change this next week.
I just haven't had a great attention span this past week.

This morning has been a comedy of errors already so I wish I could just go hide under the covers and watch dramas.

Forgot it was the first so had to dig out change for bus.
Then realized I'd left my house without my glasses on🤦‍♀️ so had to go back.
Then almost walked into the neighborhood skunk. I backed up way back to wait and give it the right of way.

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Then almost walked into the neighborhood skunk.

This sentence just made my morning!

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The neighborhood skunk who is given the right of way, natch! Haha, that's so cute. Not only that, I can relate as we have a neighborhood skunk who emerges at the most inopportune times from the ravine and causes one to back-step real quick like! Well, have a super weekend maybe hiding under those covers watching K-dramas!

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I'm not messing with a skunk. I'd have called in late to work if I'd had to, lol.

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It's Lee Sun Kyun's birthday!

Yes, I know it's still March 1 where Dramabeans HQ is (USA, if I'm not mistaken), but it's already March 2 in South Korea. So...

Happy Birthday, Lee Sun Kyun-nim!
2 March 1975 - 2 March 2019
44 years young!
All the best wishes!

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Happy Birthday to Lee Sun Kyun oppa! Stay great!

and, love you!!

both of you, @widala and LSK, of course! :D

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Rewatching Chuno
Spring is Spring
Crowned Clown
Liver Die
J drama Manpuku

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How is Manpuku?

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I like it so far, just 10 eps in. Has the lovely Sakura Ando.

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I have not watched it yet but everyone seems to adore the drama in Japan. I think that the story is about the inventor of cup ramen( founder of Nisshin).

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We Beanies would be up a creek without our ramyun. ;-)

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Also Father is Strange

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I loved Father is Strange. Lee Yoo-ri is wonderful in it. I wish I could dress like her every day too! That drama stayed strong all the way through the end, and had some wonderful feel-good moments.

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Between FIS and Spring x 2 , I fell for Lee Yoo-ri. ❤️ I had never seen her before this.

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Liver Die: I can't understand how so many people (with 20% ratings?!) watching the male lead suffer like forever. Me? I just watch because I started (and kept watching hoping PS would get a break in the following ep, following ep, following ep....)

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This family... A checklist of “things that can wrong” may be of help.

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Chuno is epic!

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Currently enjoying J drama Saving Rock and A story to read when you first fall in love.
Saving Rock is only 30 min long or so per eps and I must say that it is cheaply made( low budget) compared to K drama. The story is about a salaried man( relatively young and maybe a bit silly) who was obsessed with guitars and rock' roll . He somehow became obsessed with saving money with the same rigor and passion for guitars. I think that it is only Japan who can make a drama about young man saving money! I really enjoy it for its silliness.
A story to read when you first fall in love; the main heroine is still clueless. When she failed to get in Tokyo Uni, all her confidence was lost and she became so clueless with love! Poor girl.I love two of three men who are interested in her. The high school student who decided to try Tokyo Uni and her elite cousin are quite sweet. I cannot help cheering for her cousin( he is so nice) but something about pink hair high school student makes me cheer for him as well. I do not like other guy who is a high school teacher. He is a bit sly compared to other two.
Both Sky Castle and this drama talk about competitive university entrance. While SK became a bit of tragedy and in more upscale setting and made us think twice about the extreme competitiveness on uni admission, this one seems to be focused on the heroine's love life on surface but when i peek this drama a bit deeper, the drama folds to show how she gets back her confidence not just as a cram school teacher but as a person. I also like the scenario where a black sheep tries to get in Tokyo Univ. The teachers talk about ways to study in order to get in Tokyo uni in the drama and I found it interesting. The examination of Tokyo University is freaking difficult so one has to study with extreme efficiency! One needs certain tactics in order to get into the uni for sure.

Oh, and the last thing; I hate 'Live or Die'. I am sure there will be a redemption coming but I think it is too late to feel happy for them. The family is so dysfunctional.

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Happy March everyone!
(more later. about to go to a meeting with my advisor in a min)

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Hope everyone is having a great week so far!
sigh we are having an issue with the Kpop dance club I am involved in. So my university is changing some rules of how to reserve the dance practice rooms and one of the other dance crews booked a 4 hour block (including the block that we have had for the last couple years every week.
And since we have some events coming up we really need to have the space for practice. sigh
I hope things get sorted out soon!

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Sending you good vibes!!! I hope you guys get the space you need, one way ot the other! ~~~~~

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Thanks! it worked out!

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Happy Friday beanies!

This week has been tough! Because of work, I’ve only averaged 4 to 5 hours of sleep each day. Hopefully next week will be a leisurely one.

This coming Monday is my birthday... going to celebrate by going to a Brazilian steakhouse tomorrow. Cant wait to sink my teeth into some tender juicy meat, yum!

Currently watching Sky Castle, it’s good but I am not addicted yet.

Also watching Narcos on Netflix, which is pretty good.

If anyone wants a good podcast to listen to, Trevor Noah’s “Born a Crime” is very entertaining.

I also listen to Brooke and Jubal (radio show) segments - awkward Tuesday phone call, second date update, loser line. They are available on the website and on YouTube, and freaking hilarious!

Hope everyone has an great start to March. I think March Is a popular month for birthdays.

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If you are looking for party games with hilarious effects, give Telestrations and Hivemind a try. What are some of your favorite board/ party games?

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Happy birthday for Monday! :D

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Happy Birthday! Early! And YUM! Brazilian steakhouse--all you can eat, right? The one in our town is owned by a Korean family, and also my son's best friend. Such nerds.

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Forgot to mention that she’s (the mom) a kdrama fan too. We always talk about what we’re watching when I see her.

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Thank you Ally! I am a fan of family adventures and conversations with hubby.

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I also listen to Brooke and Jubal (and Jose)! They are pretty hilarious. Sadly the station that played them in my area dropped them for some reason so now I can only listen to them through their website.

I love pretty much all their segments but my favorites are their Phone Tap, Loser Line, Missed Connections and Jeffries song of the week segments.

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Also, happy early Bday! Hope you have an awesome one 😋🎊

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I love Brooke and Jubal but found José initially really annoying. But, his drunken movie reviews and drunken dates are hilarious. Wish they had more of those segments.

Thank you for your bday wishes 🙏

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Hope you have a very Happy Birthday on Monday!

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Happy happy Friday Beanies! Hope everyone had a fantastic week!

My Strange Hero 7.5/10 This was a really cute drama. Yoo Seung-Ho is of course an excellent actor and I adore his smiles. His whole face smiles and sparkles when he does smile. I've never seen Jo Bo-ah in anything before but she was adorable and sweet and had good chemistry with YSH. The drama could be frustrating at times by the injustice that was blatantly happening but it had a good ending for all the characters. Overall an enjoyable drama that I would suggest to others. 😋

Legend of Yunxi 4.5/10 Not a good drama. I started out finding it entertaining but as the drama dragged on and the romance was nothing but Long Feiye constantly pushing Yunxi away I got tired and annoyed with it. Long Feiye was borderline abusive. He would do these things to push Yunxi away to 'protect' her but was just asshole moves. And then he would be all lovey-dovey with her in the next scene, then shoving her away again. That's what abusive people do. The ending was kinda left to your interpretation but I don't even care what the ending is because I have absolutely no interest in the characters or their outcomes. I felt no romance or chemistry at all between the leads, there were constant plot holes, nothing felt serious even when it should have been a serious scene, and it was cheesy and silly (and not the good kind of cheesy). Stay away from this one 🤢

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Legend of YunXi sucked! Draggy, terrible acting from most of the cast and the ending sucks. I watched it out of curiousity after Kimbapnoona mentioned there’s a butt exposure, as I couldn’t believe it would happen in a Cdrama. I ended up ff-ing almost the entire drama. Lol. First few episodes were cute though.

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I was pretty shocked there was a naked butt scene! I had to rewatch the scene, not to see his butt again since it looked like a child's butt, but I was so shocked that they actually showed that in a cdrama that I missed the subtitles lol. And my mom went and watched the drama because I mentioned a naked butt haha.

Ya, except for some of the secondary characters, most of the actors weren't the greatest (I really wasn't a fan of the actors who played the main characters). I found out while I was watching the drama that almost every young woman in the drama was from 1 girls idol group. Which probably explains the not-so-stellar acting.

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I’m watching My Strange Hero and I love every episode. As always, YSH is wonderful and JBA nailed her role, but I would give the best actor award to KDY. I love the wildflower bunch! The plot is simple but each episode is compelling. I look forward to watching the finale ep tonight. I will certain miss these characters.

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It was definitely a good drama and I loved the wildflower group. I also was in love with Teacher Park. We all need(ed) a teacher like him in our life! I loved his father-son relationship with Kang Bok-soo.

I agree, Kwak Dong-yeon certainly stole the show. He was exceptionally creepy and horrible but also pitiful and lonely and did a great job portraying both those aspects of his character.

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Yes, Teacher Park was awesome. I love that he made his students feel that grades are not the sole measure of their worth.

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Yeah, i gave up on Yunxi after the fourth episode.

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You were smarter then me! I am ashamed I watched the whole drama. My mom kept telling me to finish it, I shouldn't have listened.

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I dropped it before the queen died. Wanted to continue because of Charmaine but just couldn’t.

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Happy Friday Beanies!

I have been sucked into - of all things! - C show Super Vocal.

I'm not a variety show person but C variety shows are invading my tv. The scale is always grand and they have big budgets but of course the most important, China has crazy number of talents. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised because their population is huge.

Anyway, this Super Vocal is singing talent contest with a difference - the contestants are trained opera and musical theater singers. I just started yesterday and can't stop watching. Doesn't help that the contestants are all tall and incredibly good looking.

Also, the weirdest thing - I now know who Henry is.

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Heh! I only got to hear and see Henry because of Persevere Gu Haera and possibly Oh My Venus, both of which I dropped. He speaks pretty good Korean and has a boyish charm.

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I am completely ignorant of kpop so I have no idea. Didn't watch those shows you mentioned either.

The chap is just so musically talented and great personality to have on variety shows. Maybe kpop was his stepping stone but he'd thoroughly wasted if he stuck to it.

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A lot of my friends are watching Super Vocal, and I've been shown some performances, and I have to agree the talent is incredible. I've loved Henry since he went solo some 5 years ago, and I'm tempted to watch it just to see him judge. He's just so charming and multitalented.

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I love Henry. So frakking talented. I’m totally jealous when I watch him perform. He’s a phenom.

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Hi Everyone and Happy OT!

My youngest child just got home ... just past midnight. So now I can come on here with a clearer mind. Kids!
Conversation with youngest
"Why did you leave so late?"
"We wanted to get the ice-cream."
"What's so special about the ice-cream? Why should it have made you late?"
"It's good and cheap. We had to have dinner first, and we had to line up for the ice-cream."
That was all well and good, but by the time the kid had ice-cream and got out of there, the trains stopped running and the buses were few, and there was still the walk from the bus stop.

Last week, I learnt that a child, Boy A, whom I took to be stubborn and uncooperative, was actually probably a bit special. He couldn't understand how to read other people or recognise when someone was annoyed with him.

I wouldn't have known either if there had not been a blow up between him and Boy B. Boy A did not know that when other boys approach, they might just mean to talk, but he reacts by moving away or pushing them away. He might be a bit OCD too, because he wants to put things back a particular way and neatly before he can move on to something else. Hoping he'll come by again tomorrow and that we can figure out how to meet his needs.

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Boy A sounds like he may be on the autism spectrum, doesn't he? I love these kids. I work with them as well. I also love ice cream, so I can totally see how it would be more important than figuring out how I was going to get home and at what hour!

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I was looking up the autism spectrum after thinking about Boy A. I don't want to call him by a 'syndrome' name when even his mum does not know for sure what it is. She did not tell any of us that he has difficulty with social cues, and he's probably high functioning so we only 'felt' him challenging, and did not catch on.

Unfortunately he's not coming today, but I'm thinking how to delicately suggest to the rest of the kids that they cannot expect everyone to react in the same way as themselves, without bringing up his name.

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I think I’ll rewatch goblin. You know. That drama with only 15 episodes? No and don’t try tell me otherwise.

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It's more, but totally worth a rewatch! (I'm totally biased.)

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Haha oops. I mean 18. Basically the last ep doesn’t exist

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I re-watched much of Goblin, more than a couple of times. It is still lovely. 💝

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TGIF! Hope everyone had a good week (after being flabbergasted by a couple of dramas). So we have only one episode left for The Crowned Clown(TCC). I am amazed how the show is still engaging after big ep. 8 showdown. I had doubts, so I got curious about the writer who was able to pull this off impressively (I think directors -filming, art, music- played big role in show's success too). The description of the show includes "The clown who became the king and the queen who became to love the clown, and the loyal subject who devoted his loyalty enduring his loss of dignity for the country the new king tried to build. Some say they were fake, but to them it was very real. That passionate and intense journey starts now."(Did I misunstand minister Lee?)

The main writer Kim Sin-duk never wrote a mini-series before (I couldn't find info. on this writer. There is another writer Sin Ha-eun who was co-writer for the drama Argon, but it is not known how much she is involved.). Maybe that is why this drama feels different? (fast moving plot?) I found her short interview done before the show started on Jan 7th.

[Sports Josun,2019.01.07] When heard this was a hit movie remake people were very curious about how it would be re-created for the home theater. Here is Q&A session.
Q: What is direction of adaptation and unique color of "The Crowned Clown"?
Kim: Because it was story with very clear motif "The Prince and the Pauper", it was easier to bring out imagination. I'm trying so that the story would be played out in the direction to raise the dramatic tension using the real history and the movie setup to the max. TCC starts from the inspiration "How would it be like if a clown who has excellent skill to make people laugh is actually a boy who didn't even experience his first love?" It is the story of this boy clown's growth by becoming a real king and a man who knows how to love. In that process I am building the drama to make people laugh with his struggling image, and moved with his image going straight forward with pure passion and will power. I am trying to show new episode and new character in every episode. But I can't give you detail because I don't want you not being able to enjoy the drama because of spoiler.

Q: What do you think about the casting?
Kim: I think I am lucky having greater actors than I expected. I have high expectations about characters and their stories vividly coming alive through their acting.
Q: How do you think of Yeo Jin-gu?
Kim: I like his innocent face and low voice which give you faith. I think he is an actor with solid base who can emote various feelings.

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....Q: How is working with PD Kim Hee-won?
Kim: I wanted to work with him watching his previous works, but never imagined that opportunity would come this fast. PD Kim never compromises in drama's emotion, breath and tempo control. I have faith in him.
Q: What sets it apart from the traditional Saguek?
Kim: I think people who like traditional saguek would think "Oh the story with this speed in saguek is also possible.", and the people who are not familiar with saguek could think "New genre of drama". I think people can properly understand people's story and love story through this drama.
Q: How you wish TCC is remembered as a project?
Kim: This seems obvious answer, but I'd like it is remembered as the drama which gave comfort and hope to viewers.

I agree that casting are great except the officer Jang Moo-young(Yoon Jong-suk) who I hoped being played by another actor who has more impact. This character has description like "He was of noble birth. He entered the politics as civil service official, but decided to walk the road of military officer. He is man of man, and excel at literary and martial arts, and became reliable support of Lee Heon with his deep loyalty toward the king." Sigh.

btw did you know this Gwanghae story(movie) was based on the real historical fact of Gwanghae gone(unknown) for 15 days? [Gwanghae 8th year, Feb 28th, Annals of the Joseon Dynasty] Gwanghae: "Don't write the incidents which should be hidden." - what could be the secret Gwanghae tried to hide that time??

It looks that the show lost some of viewers to Radiant/The Light in Your Eyes. Hope it can have double digit (ratings) on the finale - I hope for happy ending for the clown. Maybe he quits being the king and lives a happy life. But if they want to go makjang route, I'll even accept Ha Sun is revealed to be twin of Lee Heon.^^

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As always, thanks @fanwho fan for going the extra mile with your interview translations. ;-)

I agree that casting are great except the officer Jang Moo-young(Yoon Jong-suk) who I hoped being played by another actor who has more impact. "He was of noble birth. He entered the politics as civil service official, but decided to walk the road of military officer. He is man of man, and excel at literary and martial arts, and became reliable support of Lee Heon with his deep loyalty toward the king."

Just to play devil's advocate (hur), Yoon Jong-suk did an impressive job as Priest Choi in GUEST and held his own in the presence of Kim Jae-wook and Kim Dong-wook – no mean feat. Earlier, he had caught my eye as the tragic insurance investigator in MAD DOG, which is saying something, given the overwhelming screen presence of Yoo Ji-tae, Woo Do-hwan, and the rest of the charismatic team. Considering that this is YJS's first sageuk after making his drama debut in 2017's SAVE ME, he is doing a competent, if subdued, job. I think that an older actor with sageuk experience, such as Oh Dae-hwan or Min Sung-wook, would have brought pizzazz to the role.

In MASQUERADE, Kim In-kwon portrayed the hard-bitten Captain Do who did Chief Royal Secretary Heo Gyun's bidding, and accidentally discovered he had been serving and protecting a royal impersonator. Ha Sun's merciful handling of the revelation, and later reaction to the corrupt ministers' calls for exorbitant tribute to be paid to Ming, won the swordsman's heart. Kim In-kwon's farewell to Ha Sun is deeply moving, and made me question which man really was the better king.

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In all fairness, I have to point out that while I was aware that CROWNED CLOWN's Jang Moo-young seemed to be familiar with Lord Gil and his land tax reform, I missed the memo (if there were one) that he himself was a yangban who switched from the civil service to a military career. That sounds unusual to me given the requisite martial arts training for such a position, but not impossible. What prompted him to change his career so drastically? It may be that Jang's backstory got lost in the sauce, which is a pity. He could have been a more dynamic figure, but his background wasn't effectively communicated to me via the subtitles I read. Or perhaps it was the writing itself. (I'll 'fess up that I couldn't keep up with reading the recaps for a spell, and haven't yet gone back and read them. Better giddyup and do so before the finale.)

It is fun to speculate as to what went unrecorded during that February fortnight in the eighth year of Gwanghaegun's reign. Jurchen zombies? Ming vampires? Killer tomatoes? Stranded space aliens from another star? In comparison, a royal impersonator tasked with misleading conspirators at court sounds almost too pedestrian. LOL!

I, too, have considered the possibility of a birth secret: Ha Sun has a long-lost identical twin who is not Yi Heon. Yep. There are three of them. Neener, neener! ;-)

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Thank you for translating this interview, @fanwho fan!

"The clown who became the king and the queen who became to love the clown, and the loyal subject who devoted his loyalty enduring his loss of dignity for the country the new king tried to build. Some say they were fake, but to them it was very real. That passionate and intense journey starts now."

Like you, fan, I feel as if I have greatly misunderstood Chief Royal Secretary Lee. He has hewed to Yi Heon's original intentions despite the King's becoming tragically compromised at the hands of the Disloyal Opposition, which included his own father. He never had a chance, really.

"How would it be like if a clown who has excellent skill to make people laugh is actually a boy who didn't even experience his first love?"

Aha! This explains the puzzling relationship between Ha Sun and the Queen. But it may cast a bit of light on Haksan and Woon-shim, too. I think that there is much more between them than meets the eye, as I commented in the ep. 13 recap thread.
http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/02/the-crowned-clown-episode-13/#comment-3417085

I kind of wish I had been aware of these thoughts at the start of the drama. On the hand, I can see how they have been playing out. Usually I don't know much more about a show's premise than what I see in AsianWiki and DB casting news, previews, and recaps. Even as the finale draws nigh, it's still good and useful to read the author's comments and intentions. ;-)

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There was new drama news on DB which Lee Sang-yeob will star in. I always liked him who did "Top Star Yoo Baek" recently, so I looked up his interview. There was one done after the show ended. But first short intro.
Per wiki(and the like) Lee Sang-yup (36) debuted in KBS drama "A Happy Woman" in 2007. After he finished his army duty in 2011, he returned to dramaland doing dramas like I live in Chungnam dong(2011), The Innocent Man(2012), Jang Ok-jung (2013), House of Bluebird(2015) and Signal, The Doctors, My Wife's Having an Affair this Week(2016), While You Were Sleeping(2017) and The Hymn of Death(2018). Lee won the New actor award in MBC awards with drama "Give Love Away" where he played the first title role, and after 4 years he won the acting award in SBS awards for "While you are sleeping". When he played the villain Lee Yoo-bum in While you are sleeping, he gained popularity- viewers even awarded him with the words "Yoo-bum guilty, but Sang-yeop not-guilty". Lee also did a few movies including The Villagers (2018). As for variety, as appearing in "Running Man" Lee showed undeniable chemistry with other members playing active part, and received the reaction like "Variety genius" and "Running Man regular".

Lee is one of actors who has good image and does not have criticism about acting. Even when he had the scandal "Debt too" (It was revealed that his father was sued for scamming in Nov, 2018), the response was more like "Don't hurt Sang-yeop hyung.". He can do vocal impersonation of Jung Woo-sung and Jang Hyuk which he showed in variety which drew enthusiastic reactions (But Jang Hyuk didn't like it when he heard of this-heh). He appeared in Running Man until July, 2018 for 14 times as the guest who appeared the most. According to Lee, his parents were stern and blunt. He happened to see his mother laughing when he did a play in church when he was young, and that scene came into his sight like pin light was falling. And since that day he had the dream of becoming an actor someday. He majored in Management in the college, and happened to check a talent management agency's home page (SsaideoseuHQ) while doing the assignment, and saw the banner for audition for new actors and applied and passed. It is said that his parents objected harshly about him acting, but now they are supportive. He seems religious as he mentioned "Thanks for God" in the SBS awards in 2017, and "Our church people are watching" while doing "Knowing brothers". Lee was revealed as only grandson of the former Dongguk Jaekang chairman. (rumor says his broke-up with Gong Hyun-joo whom he had once publicized dating relationship with was due to his family.) Now onto the interview.

[hankyung.com, hankookilbo.com, bnt, 2019.01.31] Lee played Choi Ma-dol who was the top star of Yeojeuk Island and love rival of Yoo Baek.
Q: How do you feel now that the show ended?
Lee: I feel weird because this is first filming done in Seoul after 4...

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...months. I have been living as an island man.
Q: How have you spent your time?
Lee: I slept a lot and it is the time I sort out what I want to do. I've thought about what I want to eat, what I want to do, what I want to watch after the filming ended, but I couldn't think of any. I still feel like I am still in Daemodo(island filmed), and maybe because I spent such a long time with casts, I feel unfamiliar with current environment.

Q: Choi Ma-dol's romance wasn't fulfilled, but you received good response like "Master of Sympathy acting". Have you had one-sided love like Ma-dol?
Lee: I just acted as I felt because people I worked with did very well, so I am grateful people watched me favorably. I don't deserve for the nick "Sympathy acting Master". Don't you think maybe all men start, not just Ma-dol, with one-sided love, even though I don't think they end heart-breakingly like Ma-dol?
Q: There were many people who rooted for Ma-dol's heartfelt romance. What is Ma-dol's charm? What would you've done if you were in such situation for real?
Lee: There were comments Ma-dol wasn't considerate of woman's heart and forced his emotion on her. Even though he was rushing it, I think he confessed honestly. I wonder his wholehearted confession was Mo-dol's charm. If it were me I think I felt nervous like Ma-dol, but I don't think I could wait and endure like him. I think I would be more demanding and nagging, and more ruthless than Ma-dol.

Q: Were there any difficulties acting Ma-dol?
Lee: Ma-dol talked a lot and many times I couldn't understand them. It was same with his confession scene in dress - I couldn't understand when I read the scripts first time. So I kept reading and thought a lot. I was afraid if Ma-dol clouded viewers' concentration because he talked too much. I had to convey my whole heart in long lines. I ended up doing it flat, and am grateful viewers took it positively.

Q: You seem close with other casts you've worked with, how was the set atmosphere?
Lee: With So-min yang/Miss(Kang-soon), I met her in the variety "Running Man" so I had no problem, and Ji-suk hyung(Yoo Baek) was a person who was so considerate that he took it well whatever I did. I liked him he was hyung who accepted what I did. Because we were confined in the island, we might've had hardships if we didn't depend on each other. It was relief we had good team work.
Q: Is there any filming episode you remember?
Lee: Director-nim tended to do "Cut" late. He just watched for a few seconds. Then we had to do ad-lib and one time there was a scene drunken Ji-suk hyung and I went to look for So-min yang. It was a road difficult to catch up with our move line, and we stumbled and fell which not intended. There was time Hyung threw his shoes out of blue, so I went blank- we barely got out of trouble. Come to think of it, I have many memories with Ji-suk hyung.

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...Q: As filming in the island, you must've had many difficulties.
Lee: I brought books and gamer with me, but I couldn't focus except on the scripts during filming. I just sat absent-mindedly when filming ended. I went blank more than any other filming occasions, and I think I got tired of being in a daze later. Sometimes I wanted to eat chicken, hamburger, or pizza, but we only had the meal truck. We even had take-out coffee through air supply.

Q: You debuted with 2007 drama "Happy Woman" and kept playing nice characters, but in Signal in 2016, you succeeded to have different acting by playing a serial killer. Since then you played dark characters in "While you are sleeping" and "Villagers". How is your filmography so far?
Lee: I think it is not bad. If your character is limited, you hear the review "double-edged sword". My goal is to challenge various characters. I played Ma-dol character right after I did "Villagers", so people might have felt awkward accepting it. I am very grateful for the variety "Running Man" because if I didn't do the program, I don't think there was Ma-dol.

Q: How do you immerse in the character when acting? You have played unusual characters.
Lee: I don't want to do acting which typically pops into the head. So I remove things coming to my mind first. As I think how I would do, I consider the set atmosphere and then make the character up in detail. When I am into the character too deep, I often can't remember how I acted. But it gives me joy and I feel proud when I go home.
Q: If you have to pick your life project, what it could be?
Lee: All projects I have done are precious, but I think my turning point was "Signal". Also "Top Star Yoo Baek"- maybe because I did one-sided love after long while- it was mentally difficult but I think it will remain in my memory for a long time. Doing this project I lived in a place not home, and I felt I did everything I wanted to do.

Q: Is there any character you want to challenge?
Lee: Passionate melo. I like a love story which can't be realized- like "Secret Affair". The project you can mentally feel even though you don't express in detail. "500 days of summer" is good too. And I am also interested in playing an unique character like in "23 Identity". As I said it, I want to do all.
Q: If you do a passionate melo, which actress you want to act with?
Lee: Kim Sung-ryung (Are you human, Beauty inside) sunbae-nim. Kim Sun-ah(RMBS) noona is good too.

Q: Your new image in the variety "Running Man" was talk of town. How was it when you did it?
Lee: I didn't know I was such dumb, but it seems such image was most like me. Since they were not calculated situations I wonder it was my most honest voice and expressions. I was stunned watching them too. I tend to do lots of monitoring, but even when I watch "Running Man" now, the scene I shook the step counter thing with Kwang-soo was so stupid. But I remember having lots of fun. When I...

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...I think about it now, that was when I was doing very difficult projects and also going through depression. Doing "Running man" made me feel good. I couldn't meet the cast members when I worked on this project, but I still keep in touch with them.

Q: It is not easy for an actor to do a variety. How about you?
Lee: I think I saw my true self. There were parts that I thought I shouldn't do when I meet my girl friend or family. I seem too naive for my age, but I think I saw real Lee Sang-yeop. I might've acted without knowing my real self, but I found about myself through variety. I think it helped my acting.
Q: You don't have fear appearing in a variety? Is there certain variety you want to do?
Lee: Of course I had fear at first because I would show all of me. But as I did the variety, I learned how to let go. In the case of "Knowing brothers", I went to the show after I studied hyungs' tendency first. When I went for the second time, I felt comfortable because I already did "Running Man" many times by then. If I can I'd like to be in "Running Man" again and do letting all go. I think I can do the same with any variety. It became an opportunity for healing rather than fear.

Q: How do you spend the time when you finish a project?
Lee: Very ordinarily. Meeting people and reading thinking to read one book a week. But this time I have many things to learn. One sad part doing "Top Star Yoo Baek" was that we all had so much hardships, but "Making film" clips were mostly about actors. I thought I should learn photography and take pictures of staff members. I'm going to take pictures for other people in my next project.

Q: Who are other celebrities you are close with?
Lee: On Joo-wan(Man Who Sets the Table), Kim Dong-wook(The Guest), announcer Jang Sung-gyu, and musical actor Kim Ho-young. All are of same age (born in 83). We meet to drink and chat. I met Jang Sung-gyu through "Knowing brothers", and I liked him very much. He is the character I have never seen before, and his countless charms are not shown much in the broadcast. Personally I wish he does acting. He is a friend I can spend night talking and I hope the world knows more about him.
Q: How do you release your stress?
Lee: I used to sleep a lot but I was told that was not good. So I just sing in closed space. Also I do video games and watch hero films.

Q: What kind of actor you want to be?
Lee: I want to become an actor who is not awkward. I don't like cheesy stuff so when there are such lines, I get tense. I want to be an actor who can fit into any place. Of course I want to be Lee Sang-yeop with good acting skill, but that will be my goal until I die.
Q: Your goal for 2019?
Lee: Working hard. I want to be a person who can use time well. I am the type who can do only one that I decide on. But I'd like to be a multi-player this year.

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Running man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZpXeM2Djtk

Ma-dol oppa fighting! I remember I loved him in MWHAATW (such long title). I guess his wish doing "passionate melo" coming true (even tho not with his dream partner) http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/02/park-ha-sun-lee-sang-yub-cast-in-channel-a-romance-melo/
LSY fighting!

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Thank you for the interviews about TCC and Ma Dol oppa @fanwho!

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Thank you for the interview! I have been a fan of him and I would love to see him on a drama with Kim Sun Ah.

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Again, wonderful translation, fan! I’ve not seen him in anything, as I still have TSYB still to watch, but he seems very thoughtful and engaging. It’s amazibg how he decided to go into acting as a kid, just because he saw him mother enjoying herself while he was performing. That’s sweet. All the best to him on his future projects!

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Thank you so much for translating this very long and interesting interview with Lee Sang-yeob, @fanwho fan! I thoroughly enjoyed his performance in TOP STAR YOO BAEK. He's really charming and thoughtful in the interview. And oh, so sly in that RUNNING MAN clip you posted. I could see divilishly competitive Ma-dol at work in it. LOL! I didn't realize he was in SIGNAL, and just rewatched ep. 9. Yikes! The convenience store clerk was a far cry from Ma-dol oppa, that's for sure. *shudder*

He was also in the supporting cast of LOVERS OF SIX YEARS, which I watched a couple of years ago. But I was so focused on the frustrating jerk of a male lead that I don't recall LSY's role. Shin Sung-rok, however, played a nice, non-deadly second lead in it.

Key quote:
"I might've acted without knowing my real self, but I found about myself through variety."

Thanks again for a dandy read! Hwaiting, LSY!

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OT Week 107! I almost hate the week after leave from work because there is undoubtedly more work that you must do when you get back. This is where I am today, still trying to tie up loose ends from when I was gone. But, Yay! we get to celebrate my hubby’s birthday tonight, so that will be lots of fun! Going to a steak place with the best hamburgers ever and truffle fries! Totally overindulgent.

I’ve been busy, but I’m still watching three dramas: “Radiant,” “RIABB,” and “Touch Your Heart.” Radiant is the hardest for me to watch. After “My Ahjusshi,” this one is good, but not as good. NJH is doing a bang up job here though. I’m impressed. Now, will he ever be a Yoo Jin-goo, Gong Yoo, or even Nam Da-Reum? Probably not. But he’s not bad at all. (Speaking of NDR, he’s going to be the lead in a school-drama, melo, of course, because he’s awesome like that.)

The squeefest that is the fan wall for “Touch Your Heart” is unparalleled. It is cute. Too cute for words right now.

And RIABB is…there. I don’t really look forward to it, but it’s enjoyable when I do watch it, and I’m not behind or anything, because it’s on the weekend and I can usually watch the episodes as they come out.

Conversations:

It’s been a while since we’ve heard from my daughter and the math genius. Turns out, there is another math competition around the corner.

Me: Oh, I got an email that you qualified for the regional math thing.
Daughter: So did my best friend!

Me: How about math genius?

Daughter: Of course, that’s the only way my best friend got in!

Me: Why?

Daughter: Because she was on his team and they got second for the word problem round! I was on a team of newbies. They didn’t make it.

Me: But I’m glad she gets to go with you. I remember this actually. He wanted you on his team.

Daughter: Yeah, we’ll all be on the same team now--how it was meant to be.

Moral of the Story: Hopefully, “it was meant to be” between math genius and my daughter.

2nd moral: Who needs kdramas with this?

3rd moral: Have a great weekend everyone! We have more snow coming and winter will not leave!

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Woman, we are in sync. Even down to our desire to have winter up and leave. Math connection is also in there somewhere. Success to your daughter!

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Thanks! We need to set up some study dates with math genius!

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Well, I made it through Memories of the Alhambra. To be honest, it could've stopped at ep 15. The writer should've asked anyone off the street to write the ending (pick me! pick me!); it would've been better. I was glad they mostly dropped the romance thing; Jin-woo did tell her not to trust him. And let's face it, he was a little too world-weary for Hee-joo's naive tears (so. many. tears.) For me, the creepy NPCs represented personal demons, the ones that keep you up at night looking to take you down when you least expect it. Overall, I quite liked the show, and the effects and production were so pretty (did I mention Hyun Bin's dimples?)

In other news, I slogged through Fates and Furies. It would've been so much better if no one got together with anyone. Tae In Joon just wanted to make shoes! Leave him alone! The only thing I ever wanted from this series was Cha Soo Hyun's wardrobe. She killed in every outfit.

Finally, finally got to see the last 3 eps of Devilish Joy. (sob) I wanted to hug everyone.

Waiting very. patiently. for Beauty Inside to catch up. It depresses me a little, mostly because it encapsulates everything I feel about life and love. Everyone deserves love and happiness no matter what they look like on the outside. I usually don't identify with female leads, but Han Se-Kye became my heart. And having a core group of friends can help you through anything.

And now... The Last Empress. Where have you been all my life? After Fates and Furies, I was ready for anything. But no. You barged into my dull existence and blew it up! You stole all of my free time, and dropped me off on a corner in the middle of nowhere. Can't you see me in your rearview mirror, staring longingly as you drive away? You occupied all my space, then you just up and left. And yet, I can't be mad at you. Sigh. Farewell my crazy, crazy friend.

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YES. I have loved The Last Empress so much - lots of reasons to be depressed in my life right now, but I could count on that show to bring the crazy and make me forget everything else and laugh. I think it is a bit of disservice to call this show makjang - makjang is bad that takes itself seriously, and really The Last Empress was so over the top it just had to be winking at you; for example, at the empty restaurant scene where the two couples end up dancing and it becomes an elaborate game of switching partners, flashy dance moves, and finally, some kindergarten-style shoving and pushing.

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Happy March everyone.

Will this horrendous winter never end! Yes it will. SOON!!!!!!! Fingers crossed, anyway.

Dramas:

I'm liking so many and had to drop a few.

Radiant/Light in your eyes -- sweet, dark, slow and smooth like molasses. The melancholy in this has me wishing for a bittersweet tragic ending so if we get an HEA, it had better be earned. Show, do not fail me by giving me some easy out. That young actor is sooo good! I trust him and our actresses to hit this drama out of the park.

Fiery Priest -- Honey Lee is one of my favorite actresses. So am liking seeing her on the screen. There is a vitality, a throw-it-all-in carefreeness, and a committment to gusto in her acting that some other actresses just do not have.

Romance is a Bonus Book and Touch Your Heart (Reach of Sincerity) both are so sweet. The office families in both are so what i need. Reminds me of King of Savvy. Am glad we won't have to deal with any trope of evil second lead female. I was getting tired of that. Romance reminds me of those Japanese business dramas where we learn about some kind of industry. I'm not invested in the mystery and i don't feel we really need one but kdramas tend to overplot so...i gotta deal. I liked the scene of our hero cutting his dad's (?) nails. I do wish hero and Dani would've shared their pains with each other. IF they are friends, they should risk upsetting and grieving their friend by dumping their own sorrow on them.

Legal High. Am accommodating myself to this version. It's good and silly. With a good fleshed out plot.

Spring Becomes Spring. I love the adulterers. They are so greedy and silly and the actress is doing a great job playing such a silly evil woman. I tend to fast-forward through the discussion with the guy boms because i am so not interested in them.

Dropped Item, Haechi, Poong Sang, and avoided Trap. The stress was too much. I love me some Jung Il Woo but i just couldn't. Maybe when i'm better. How do those ahjummas in Korea deal with all that sorrow? Also dropped Hoalan because it was just fatiguing what with all the battles our heroine was facing. Every other episode there was some new scheme. It became ridiculous and i just couldn't invest. It's good popcorn material though.

Watching The Golden Eyes and liking it a lot. Great fun and i'm learning so much about Chinese antiquities. Awaiting some kind of Indiana Jones adventure.

Watching Carpisma a Turkish Drama that is subbed on youtube. If you're into fate collisions, you might like this one.

Have a wonderful weekend.

Have a wonderful weekend, all!

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I hear you about winter. Not my favorite time of the year. Radiant is slow and intriguing, but maybe too slow for me. Have a great weekend, yourself, and stay warm!!!

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Oh, and Rampant is now streaming on AmazonPrime and i'm liking it a lot more than i liked Kingdom.

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I think I had the opposite reaction with Rampant. I would have liked for more character development. I am hoping that writer of Kingdom uses the amount of episodes left wisely, in terms of developing her characters and her plot. (Are we supposed to have a total of three seasons?)

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Hi, @scifiwritir

I haven't been on these Open Threads in a long time. I hope that you are doing well. I am with you regarding this terrible Winter. I want it to be Summer already, never mind Spring! :)

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Hey, Peridot! Long time no see. I'm just getting back into the swing. New computer so this site works better for me. The other one was way glitchy. One more month for something like Spring....hopefully.

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I'm adding a note of complaint about Viki.
Of course the week that I subscribed was the week their English translations imploded. Episodes are popping up with no translations at all or with 2/3rds of the dialog translations missing. And the stuff that did get translated is random, like song lyrices or just the word 'Hello'. Turning on the timed comments function, you see frustrated viewers begging for English translations or making up random dialog to fill in for the missing translations. I had signed up to Viki for 'Sky Castle' and the episodes are unwatchable.

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Since you've complained, allow me to provide a rebuttal. First off, I totally get your frustration. I really do. It sucks having to wait for subs in the first place, but it sucks even more when your expectations aren't fully met after paying for something. Personally, Viki is not a site that I would ever pay a subscription to, but I've never had to since I volunteer and get access to everything for free. The thing is, it’s business as usual over at Viki. Some weeks are more productive than others. That's just how it is and how it will always be, which is why, if that's something that's going to bug you, I highly suggest you reconsider how you spend your money.

I happen to be one of the subbers at Viki, but I only choose about one or two shows a year to help out with since for me it's an extremely time-consuming and exhausting process. The last show I worked on probably involved 100+ hours of work on my part for less than 20 hours of content. Korean is not my first language so I often have to spend many hours scouring the Korean version of Yahoo trying to figure out how to translate certain slang phrases. Not everyone puts that much time in, but doing so has improved my Korean leaps and bounds so I choose to do so.

When I block out all the comments demanding faster subs, I actually really enjoy subbing. I love the challenge of trying to create the perfect translation for something and nothing makes me happier than seeing someone post a gif or screenshot on DB of a line that I came up with. The shows that I work on are my “babies” and I’m really proud of them. But sometimes the toxic viewer community at Viki gets to me and the stress of trying to meet everyone’s demands of working faster makes me just up and ditch the project for a while. If it’s not fun for me anymore, then there’s no point in me doing it.

All of the volunteers on Viki have different reasons for doing it. Some do it to practice Korean, practice English, kill some time as an easy hobby, or just to get in the minimum of contributions needed to get a free Viki Pass. My point is that no one’s #1 reason for subbing is to provide subs for everyone else out of the goodness of their heart, and if it is, they often leave the community quite quickly. That’s why subs can take a super long time. Similarly, if your Viki subscription is primarily just for getting subs, then you may want to consider spending that money on a VPN or anti-virus program instead. You'll save yourself a lot of frustration.

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I recently subscribed and everything I’m watching has subs super fast (TYH and Radiant) so it depends on the team. Also, I usually wait a couple days after it live airs before watching an episode. @earthna also subs, also not her first language. You guys are AMAZING and THANK YOU! I really am praying that Top Start gets picked up by VIKI so that there a decent subs. I should request it, shouldn’t I?

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There should be a page there that lets you request titles. The more people send in requests, the more chances of it getting licensed on viki. :)

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Knowing that Viki subbers are volunteering their time, it blows my mind how quickly dramas are subbed. As a subscriber I am morally conflicted by Viki's business model of sustaining itself on the unpaid time and labor of people all over the world, but I also much prefer the quality of the subtitles that you and your fellow volunteers produce. So, I continue to subscribe, and I continue to wish you were paid for your time with more than my gratitude and a Viki Pass.

Therefore, Mike I hope you don't add to the chorus of voices clamoring for the subbers to work harder/faster because they are doing the best they can in a not-so-great environment.

And @hobakky, thank you.

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For reference, when I was doing Six Flying Dragons, I worked on the subs for 6-8 hours every Monday and Tuesdays for six months. It is a LOT of work. I did it because I like it but it doesn't hurt to see people appreciate the effort we put into these dramas. It really make us feel happy seeing thank yous and all that.

Illegal sites produce faster subs but I still pride viki for having more accurate subtitles. We always try to translate in a way that references for jokes, puns, or other cultural stuff don't get lost in translations.

Thanks, egads, for the kind words and your appreciation.^^

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You need to keep in mind that what you're paying for is watching raw videos up early, HD viewing, and no ads. Your subscription has nothing to do with how fast subs get uploaded. These are volunteers working on every aspect of the episodes.

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Babel and Trap this weekend and I think I am going to rewatch episode 8 of Reach of Sincerity. It was so funny and cute and kind and warm.

I love, love, love the scene with the female staff members and would like more of that. The ladies had their reservations and then got over it when they realized that Yoon seo was pretty great. No cattiness or undermining behavior among them and when Secretary Kang offered her phone number....wow, it just made we want to go out and hug someone.

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General life question of the week: Are rejection letters not a common business practice?

I'm not talking no-callbacks in the early stages, I mean when you've gone through multiple interviews, all your references have been called/interviewed, and you've gone through every stage possible over the course of several months and then there's silence for weeks. I get that companies have policies against giving status updates in order to prevent people from getting the wrong idea before something is set in stone, but is there any reason an HR person can't politely tell a person they're no longer being considered if they ask about where they are in the process? Like, are there actually bans against letting people know that they've been rejected or something or is it just a personal decision from an HR person that doesn't want to be the bearer of bad news?

I've always thought that it was common sense to let a potential candidate know, even if it's in a roundabout way, when a decision has been made against hiring them and to thank and encourage them to apply again sometime. Therefore, I've assumed that in the final stage no news is good news since it means someone is still working (very slowly) to put together an offer for you. After all, you don't need a month after a final interview to make a decision about whether or not you want to hire someone. But perhaps this is not how the majority of businesses actually operate? I mean, everyone knows the worst thing you can do to an applicant is not give them any closure, so why not do so?

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I am on the other end of the hiring process now. I used to send off emails pretty quickly to inform the unsuccessful applicants of the 'bad news'. However this got me into difficulties because the person whom we selected, up and changed his mind. Believing, like you, that the poor kids who came for the interviews should know that they need not wait anymore, I informed them all in good faith.

Guy we selected had given me a definite yes, but then had reasons he could not come to sign his letter. He finally admitted to choosing another job instead!!! I was so angry. By that time, all our other potential candidates had gone on and we were left with no one to fill the position again!

This might be one reason why HR is slow or unwilling to inform you of 'bad news'. However you can always ask them and they should give you a proper reply, rather than keep you uncertain.

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Yikes, that's terrible! There's actually a high possibility something like that might end up happening in my case though. It's going on 2 months now since they completed their final rounds of interviews, but they've yet to officially hire anyone. I think it's partly because they've been struggling to decide on the budget for the year, which has been causing a major slowdown in the hiring process.

The thought did strike my mind several times that, especially since it's an entry level job aimed at fresh graduates, people are going to take whatever job is offered to them first so if they don't hurry they might end up losing all their candidates. It's pretty shocking that such a thing really does end up happening though. 6+ months of hard work all for nothing... I guess that's when having one of those automated "We haven't yet been able to find a match for you, but will keep your application on file for x-months in order to keep trying" emails come in handy.

Sadly, I did ask them over a week ago what the next step for me in the process is, but there hasn't been a response. However, this HR person has traditionally never responded to any of my emails until/unless she had news to share with me so I'm not surprised. I'm just left wondering if rejection counts as news to share or not. I guess I'll try holding out hope a little bit longer. Thank you for your reply, it was very enlightening!

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This is me too. I try to be really on the ball and ethical with my hiring and notices and emails to potential staff, but many times the candidates dont work out after the 3rd interview and I have to rewind to the 2nd interview batch... so I can't send out rejection letters too soon if not I have to start all over again, as @growingbeautifully said. I've had this happen so many times that now I never send out rejection notices until I have acually hired... but that might be 4mths down the road and most times it's so late that I don't bother...

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Ah, good to know I'm not alone in this! 😂

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Fam, anyone in the East Coast get BTS tickets?

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Hello Everyone!

I’m so glad more Kdramas are coming to Netflix. I have added a few to my list such as Six Flying Dragons and Bad Guys.

I have asked a question about what ate the beanies’ 5 top favourite kdrama on my fan wall and i’ve added few of the beanies’ favourite to my must watch list like My Ajusshi, Six Flying Dragons and Just Between Lovers. I’m also interested in Prosecutor Princess but I’m not a fan of law drama or medical drama, there’s only very few exceptions like Forest of Secrets. Anyone else doesn’t like medical and law-related dramas?

My attempts at making friends this year have been unsuccessful so far, I’ll be going to a cafe meet up and see if I can make at least one friend. I need to talk to more people to be less socially awkward and hone my social skills. I’m good at reading the atmosphere but i’m not that good at talking so reading The mood is useless if my social skills isn’t adequate enough. Let’s hope tomorrow meet up will be successful.

Beanies, have you been reading anything interesting lately?

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I generally don't like medical dramas but i did like Life and Sign (or was it syndrome?) back in the day.

There are so many groups and clubs one ca join when trying to make friends. I got some good friends when i joined a english country dance group and became a literacy volumnteer to teach ESL. If it's a club where one does things, then one doesn't have to speak up...just do something with some other folks. Like a gardening club or a hiking club.

I review books so i've been reading some good books. My fave of the lot is about scripture and english poetry.

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I cannot abide medical dramas, as I always see something wrong: upside down oxygen masks! Perfectly normal vital signs on a dying patient! No aseptic techniques being used! Upside down and backward Xrays! Oh, the list goes on and on. They're not entertainment for a person with OCD who works in a hospital. It just feels like more work!

Good luck on your meet up! Don't worry, you just have to find your niche!

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Japan has lots of good medical and procedural dramas. Korea tends to add unnecessary romance, that's why their medical and procedural dramas mostly suck

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Dear @mechanicalartist Mechartist,

I'd like to suggest that you consider checking out a wonderful organization called Toastmasters International. It has nothing to do with hollering "Here's mud in your eye!"

Years ago, Mr. P joined a club at work to fulfill his company's continuing education requirement. In a way, you could think of Toastmasters as a self-help group for public speaking, but that's only part of the story. Mr. P is a cerebral, introverted, nerdy programmer. It was really fun to see him come out of his shell and become much more at ease when speaking one-on-one with strangers and new acquaintances. I attended a few local functions and area speaking contests with him, and was impressed with the friendliness and warmth of the members. They were gung-ho on self-improvement and helping each other reach their goals -- truly some of the nicest people I've ever met. His company had many employees from overseas, so gatherings were like the United Nations.

There are public clubs as well as ones associated with workplaces. Toastmasters International has clubs all over the world, including ROK.
https://www.toastmasters.org/

BTW, my kid sister joined a club in her neck of the woods in another state, and enjoyed it very much. She got a lot out of the experience and made some lovely friends.

I hope this helps. ;-)

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I tend to avoid medical drama too, and only read recaps when many people recommend it as a well written story (like Beautiful Mind and Romantic Teacher Doctor Kim). The only medical drama I watched and ended up loving is Life, which is written by Forest of Secret's writer.

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I’m 2.5 episodes to the end of Crowned Clown (for Jingoo, I will survive this train-wreck). Then next week I will be on my way to Japan (for Seo In Guk!) so I don’t plan to begin any live dramas until I return.

Any suggestions of completed dramas that can fill my long haul?

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Anyone want to talk about the ending of The Last Empress? I was all ready to hate all over the show for the exit of Choi Jin-Hyuk before the final episodes, but actually they handled it quite cleverly and turned it into a poignant plot twist. It did a good job of showing that the quality of someone's life and the manner of their passing can have a huge effect on the rest of the world...something I did not expect from this crazy little show. At first I thought it was just makjang, but it turned out to be makjang with a wink and a smile and a nice little message in amongst the poisoned kimbap, secret torture dens, opium cookies, drownings, deadly hairpins, explosions, exhumations, massage chairs (princess versions, large AND small!) and safes filled with incriminating documents and gold bars.

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I haven't watched it because of real life, but you make it sound wonderful! I guess I'll give it a go.

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Na Wang Sik is dead! Long live Na Wang Sik! I was pretty satisfied with the ending, and I appreciated that Lee Hyeok got forgiveness of a sort from the only person that mattered to him. Everyone got what they deserved in the end. All I have to say, is the acting was phenomenal, particularly Shin Eun-Kyung as the Empress Dowager. She was so over the top, so diabolical, and so funny. Her maniacal laughing and crazy eyes in her final scene may haunt my dreams lol. Injuries aside, I can’t imagine what happened behind the scenes; hopefully we’ll get to see it all one day.

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I cried so hard over the ending, and I wish that Sunny had embraced him, just once, before he died. I loved Hyuk the most, when he wasn't being crazy, and they made him such an endearing and tragic character despite his flaws. They transformed him from villain to hero to villain again and played havoc with our hearts and our minds week after week. Woo Bin's death made me cry, and even though I knew that it wasn't Choi Jin hyuk in the morgue, I still cried. Powerful and evocative script writing at its best. It was a melodrama but raised the bar to a whole new level of wackiness and craziness and yet infused it with such heart and such tenderness at the oddest, most unexpected moments it's going to be forever etched in my heart as a very special drama, one of its kind, that comes around maybe once in a lifetime.

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I'm here waiting for Lee yo won's drama "Different Dreams"..

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Only watching:

Touch Your Heart ~ just finished ep. 8 and shooooooon this drama has slip into my heart. I love the main couple, how unangsty and real for a new relationship they seem ~ though I’m more like YS in relationships, I wish I was cool and elegant but I just usually end up just bottling things up that then come out much much less gracefully.

Clowned Crown ~ I’m caught up through ep 13, and man, the political machinations are making it hard to get through... my new ambition is for Eunuch Jo and the mathematician to survive. That’s all I ask, drama gods

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