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Open Thread #594

Happy Friday everyone!

Here is your Open Thread, which is here for you to chat about anything you want, whether it be drama-related or not. Nothing’s off-topic here! Spoilers may be rife, so proceed accordingly.

 
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I've recently gotten back on the drama train agaim - first by checking out The Light In Your Eyes (for Nam Joo Hyuk's face obviously) and then catching up on Reach of Sincerity (Scent of a Woman-era Lee Dong Wook is my dramaland forever crush). Then to fill the gaps while waiting for new episodes, I've been slooowly watching Life.

I've been loving all of them! Light is a bit of a downer though especially since all the plots don't really seem to be moving forward - and the initial sweetness between the couple is absent for plot reasons.

Life is really interesting though! I like what one recap said about how it makes sense if you watch it like a modern day political sageuk. And Lee Dong Wook in this is just great :)

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Oooh... another beanie watching Life. Yay!! Enjoy the roller coaster journey. 😊

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Hi @telomere. I glanced at your previous comments and noticed that your most recent comment before today was over 2 years ago. Welcome back! A couple of thoughts:
1. I only know Nam Joo-hyuk from his current appearance on COFFEE FRIENDS. What a sweet (tall) guy and fast learner! He will be in tonight’s final episode. CF is a terrific show. Yoo Yeon-seek and Son Ho-jun and friends can be proud;
2. I enjoyed LIFE. It has a fine cast. In the supporting cast I really enjoyed the performance of Yeom Hye-ran who plays Cho Seung-woo’s assistant. You might want to check out STRANGER. Both have the same writer.

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*Yoo Yeon-seok* drat!

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Oh my, you're right! I think I may have casually watched stuff but haven't gotten excited enough to post things since 2016... it's v weird to look back on my comments which are mostly variations on "I'm v hopeful/excited about this drama!!" with the benefit of knowing that none of them (goblin, cheese in the trap, scarlet heart, etc) had particularly satisfying endings ;__;

I will check out your recs, thank you so much for them!

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You haven't watch weightlifting fairy?

I was going to preach you why you should watch WFKBJ and how you missed a lot but seing how you offered life and stranger, maybe WFKBJ just not your cup of tea 😅😅😅. Try scarlet heart ryeo. He's one of the prince.

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* and by he i mean nam joo hyuk.

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I think Weightlifting Fairy was one of the few dramas I actually finished during my long drought! I really loved that, it was so cute :) sadly I tried some eps of Scarlet Heart and it really wasn't my cup of tea...

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Happy weekend Beanies!

All misery and no K-dramas makes this beanie very displeased.

My poor newborn godson was taken to the hospital for a few days while I had to prepare for and participate in state exams that I ended up failing.

On top of that the job search department falsely accused me of neglecting to attend an obligatory counselling session, which are only obligatory if you receive financial aid from them. If they had bothered to check my file, they would have noticed right away that I am exempted from their useless sessions because I do not receive their financial aid.

However, I would like to thank @growingbeautifully for the recruiter’s perspective last week. Right now I am also dealing with a recruiter who is still keeping me in the dark but doesn’t stop searching for perfect candidates in the meantime. I understand now that it might be better to leave them alone for a bit to deal with their job and look elsewhere.

Fortunately my godson was allowed to leave the hospital and all the stress vanished from my body when he did. I also am attending a local Asian convention with my best friend tomorrow and I am determined to return home with an abundance of snacks and merchandise. Prefarably GOT7, since they officially made me an IGOT7 :P My friend and I also picked up our Duo Sejong 4 Korean lessons last week and made K-drama’s part of the listening exercises. We are currently on episode 3 of Modern Farmer :P

As for Yoon-Sung, I posted his ode on my fan wall and I am ready to move on to my next K-drama, but whether I do and which one remains yet to be seen. ;)

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What a week You had! I hope now everything will go smoothly for you. Good luck with job hunting!

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Thank you for the support! It is all a simple beanie needs after a good rant ;)

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Hi @turtuallysarcastic Glad to know your godson is OK and that you felt my recruiter's perspective informative.

Yes, I'd advise you keep looking for a job while waiting for a reply. One of the candidates emailed me, and remembering Beanies like yourself and @hobakky I replied, telling him the real reason I was not sending out any rejections ... I am still waiting to know if the chosen candidate will get an employment pass. If he doesn't, I've got to go down the list to others we interviewed. It was nice that the candidate thanked me.

So you see, Beanies who are job-seeking do make a difference by giving your persepectives too! :-D

I hope your weekend and next weeks turn out better, and that you find some nice dramas to assuage the 'displeasure'! ;-)

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Recruiters used to be the incarnation of the devil until recently...ironically how one of biggest Beanie friends ended up being one of them :P It is nice that you were honest with the candidate. Jobseekers do not demand a yes, but merely an answer ;)

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Heheheh! Yes, my Beanie friend, IKR ... it's good to get the lowdown from the other person's point of view.

I don't know if there's ever an in between communication ie not a No, but a Maybe. However that feels like we're stringing along the candidates and that's not nice either.

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On behalf of all recruiters/job-reviewers and interviewers everywhere, I apologise! I hope you get treated better. In my company we always try the best that we can to be ethical about the process, insofar as we don't get screwed in return (which happens...)

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Glad to know things are ok with your godson. You've indeed had quite a week. May next week definitely be better for you!

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Thank you for being your usual supportive self! ;)

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Hope everything works out for you- just hang in there. Good that your godson is ok.

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Thank you for your kind words! :)

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Hope you’ll find a job! It’s great that your grandson is recovering well.

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Is "marathoning" fatigue sign of old age? I can't stop myself if happens on compelling drama (hello "The Good Wife") but in the end I'm drained of energy and will to watch anything at all. Live watching all the way.

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I used to think that not being able to stay awake at the early hour of 9pm was a sign of my *ahem* seniority. After being up since 5.30am, I sort of disintegrate in front of any interesting and highly entertaining show. Generally I'll be halfway falling off the chair and getting a ribbing from my husband who passes by. I swear he comes by just because he can catch me literally napping.

Anyway, if you're just drained but not comatose after marathoning, I think you can still consider yourself youthful. :-D and live-watching is fun! We get to comment along with everyone else at the same time.

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"if you're just drained but not comatose after marathoning, I think you can still consider yourself youthful. " - lol. Really there are too many dramas and It is hard to live-watch them all, and you will end up doing some marathoning. I just go with the flow - if I fall asleep while watching that is ok (I can't blame just on old age). like @lordcobol said you don't have enough time to sleep with all these dramas, but you can catch up by falling asleep during watch.

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I suppose when someone is so used to live watching, marathoning becomes very tiring. I have been trying to marathon Sky Castle since it ended but I just can't get to finish it even if I like it. Maybe it is over all drama fatigue but definitely marathoning is not a thing for me anymore. Live watching is very convenient to me and marathoning is more chore now.

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I've noticed more thought pieces on the negative aspects of binge watching. Last year, Psychology Today published this article on binging and the sleep deprivation. We Beanies joke about panda eyes but I'm trying to pull back from binge watching or junk watching. So hard for me to do when it's bitterly cold outside!

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Thanks for the article @tsutsuloo.

I'm not a binge watcher of 1 series, however I do spend hours in a row watching something or other, so the article also applies to me. Lately I've been coming up against the Virtue of Moderation. It struck a cord. Enjoyment is good in moderation; not so much unmoderated. :-D

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Hi Everyone and Happy OT!
I'm watching only 2.3 kdramas. Why the odd fraction or decimal point?

Well I think I'm watching odd percentages of Trap, maybe bits of Dazzling/Radiant/Light in Your Eyes and sort of started Big Issue. But with these I'm not sure I want to watch every minute or continue with them. The only show I watch assiduously is RIBB.

Big Issue I started out of curiosity. A friend recommended the actor, Joo Jin Mo but the show I saw him in was (to me) a soppy romance (My Love Eun Dong) which I just could not complete. I did not really notice if he was that great an actor, but in these 2 first episodes of Big Issue, he's not bad at all. As for the show itself, well, it's thrilling and hard to watch in parts (I'm a jelly when it comes to pain and suffering). The plot is only so-so, and I'm not too sold on the characters, meaning, I've not gotten to like them much or at all yet. Joo Jin Mo's character is more sympathetic than Han Ye Seul's, since he has a reason for what he does that I can understand. Still it may be compelling to find out what they will be able to accomplish together if they ever choose to walk on the straight and narrow. I'm not even sure if show is going to go there. But I hope it will!

What I'm getting a great kick out of, when I want to take short breaks from RL, are the old but ever amusing Brit shows on YouTube. An odd Agatha Christie, lots of Jeeves and Wooster and mighty sprinklings of Rowan Atkinson. Just the stuff to dust off my work woes with and add to my happy breaks.

Hope you folks are having fun too!

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Yay to fractions for completing dramas. It would rake up my numbers.

Agatha Christie is very old fashioned but my guilty pleasure.

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I adore British crime novels ... in fact most novels that I like seem to be British. I like the style and the writing. Haven't read one in ages, now that I come to think of it. I just have to get over several 'projects' before I can read for fun rather than read because I have to, and dense, dull tech stuff at that!!!

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I like British crime stories too!

Due to increasing time spent over the last decade in front of my small screen, I have stopped reading. I've tried to pick some books up but inevitably I sit down in front of the screen and watch a drama instead. Well, I just managed to get some headway into a book recently - Little Soldiers by Lenora Chu. Maybe I'll talk about it next week.

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As someone who works for Public Television, I deeply appreciate this list. I would add the Welsh drama Y Gwyll/Hinterland (Aberystwyth, Wales, pop. 16,420) to the list. Available in English Netflix now that the broadcast is finished on PBS. (I'd love to see it in Welsh but have only found clips on YouTube.)

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Thanks a million @scifiwritir CaroleMcDonnell! A list to enjoy for (probably) years to come! :-)

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Thank you! I've been missing British detective drama for sometime. I can watch these while waiting for the next season of Endeavor

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I was never that crazy for Joo Jin Mo until "My Love, Eun Dong". He really did a great job, especially the crying scene when he saw Eun Dong again. However, when I heard that the ending wasn't that great, I dropped it. Since then I've not liked him in anything else; the magic was gone.

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Hmmm ... then maybe I should watch with an eye to see if any magic sparks, because it didn't for me then and it mightn't for me now. But only time will tell.

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I remember to read Jo Jin-mo said he couldn't stop crying on that scene (when he saw Eun Dong again) even after the Cut -he got so emotional. Ending was ok. I think people were mad because her ex was forgiven?
I watched some variety long ago where JJM talked usual stuff and he felt like a boy (naive) :)

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This was my first drama watch. It was too makjang for me. Every trope in the book. I did finish it though. I liked the very last scene. It was very sweet and I believed the OTP. You should go back and finish it. It’s not a bad ending, much better than some recent ones I’ve seen. For the life of me, I don’t know why dramas do time skips in the very last episode. Makes no sense to me.

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Jeeves and Wooster!! Such a hoot! I fondly recall watching many of those episodes a couple of years ago and they were just so much fun.

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Still fun, they are. And fresh as ever. I even started watching bits of Fry and Laurie wherever they acted together. Such a blast they had together and it shows!

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I miss those episodes of Jeeves and Wooster, I really do. I should look them up and do a quick rewatch. *saying this like I have extra time .... riiiiight*

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I just take time out of my schedule and laugh myself silly with those shows.

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J&W for the win. So much brilliance, nailed it every time!!!

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Thanks for the memory, as a stressed-out type A younger person I would take an occasional "mental health" day off and read Jeeves stories, they were just the thing!

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@bbstl You're welcome!

Mental health and peace of mind is tough
But it's true, a healthy dose of laughter
(at appropriately funny stuff!)
refreshes the mind long after.
Of good jokes, I never have enough! ;-D

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@growingbeautifully,

I loved MIDSOMER MURDERS with John Nettles, and INSPECTOR GEORGE GENTLY with Martin Shaw. And FOYLE'S WAR. All of them top-notch. ;-)

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More to add to my Plan to Watch list!! :-D

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I just remember I haven't finish all season of Foyle's War. Second growingbeautifully

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I think I have 3 episodes of Foyle's War left.

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It's eight season isn't it? I remember I only watched the first three, then I got distracted with other TV shows 😄

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Yes, 8.

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@growingbeautifully, @mano, @ndlessjoie mugyuljoie,

I hate to admit that I haven't seen any of the above shows in years. Once I went down the Kdrama rabbit hole, I even got away from watching NCIS (I abandoned Leroy Jethro Gibbs! How could I???), and have seen very few US TV shows. I sometimes sneak a peek at YOUNG SHELDON, and THE ROOKIE with Nathan Fillion (who will always be Captain Malcolm Reynolds to me).

Methinks I should see if I can find the final season of DCI GEORGE GENTLY. Martin Shaw was the bee's knees. -- And FOYLE, too. I wasn't quite as tickled with MIDSOMER after John Nettles bowed out. He's one of my favorite British actors & characters.

Glad to meet fellow fans. ;-)

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Happy OT Beanies!

Read elsewhere some not so great comments on The Light In Your Eyes. I think some viewers and maybe it's the younger ones who find it slow and the plot going nowhere. @mary wrote an excellent piece on this issue in WWW last week and I agree. But I quite enjoy the slow pace, don't mind the meandering. Mostly because I can relate to Hye Ja. It took me 25 years to reach 50 but it feels like overnight.

When I was a child, I wanted to be a teenager. When I was a teenager, I couldn't wait to be an adult and free! When I was in my twenties, I wanted to have a successful career, marriage and kids. When I was in my thirties, I wanted my babies to feed themselves, not cry in the night, grow up fast. I wanted to earn more money as commitments grew. I wanted more sleep. In my forties, I wanted to retire, I wanted my children to stay cute forever, I wanted to get stop gravity. So what do I want now? For a start, take it slower and appreciate more every moment of my life as they pass in a blink of an eye.

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Very wise @outofthisworld. I've been *trying to* take time out to do nothing much except breathe and enjoy being. Sometimes I manage it, but not as much lately.

Time has gone whoosh and more than half a lifetime has passed. It's already past the first week of March!

Still, I can see that there's much to accomplish and some fun ways to go about this. So it's onward to at least make the starts and inroads, and then leave it for those who come after to continue. :-)

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"take it slower and appreciate more every moment of my life as they pass in a blink of an eye." --couldn't agree more.
But for now I want to retire -should I play a lottery?

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I don't know what's the cost of a lottery ticket but if it's a small meal, by all means skip one and buy the ticket once a week. Save on the calories and get a shot at early retirement.

Retirement planning is a core part of my work. For myself, I'm re-assessing what kind of retirement lifestyle I want and if it's something which I can afford right now. The question of how much to leave behind always pop up and generally, I tell people that as much as we want to make sure we can retire with sufficient funds, we should also not procrastinate enjoying our fruits of labor. The last thing I want is to work my butt off and then find myself in heaven next.

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Hi Everyone! ..... I hope you are all doing well today.

It's been seemingly nonstop rain around here with sunshine making an appearance now and then. On the bright side, I'm guessing our drought issues will be promptly resolved.

Neighborhood Lawyer Jo Deul-ho 2 - I don't know anymore how we got from Jo Deul-ho initially looking into So-mi's father's death to some strange woman stabbing herself, setting him up for the incident and then he ends up in jail.

Romance Is A Bonus Book - I wonder what the conversation would look like if Ji-yul's mom and Hae-rin's parents got together to discuss "suitable marriage partners." *shaking head*

Trap - Compared to episodes 5 and 6, the final episode was almost underwhelming ..... but it was still good. Lee Seo-jin was just fantastic in this show. ..... I had to chuckle when Dong-kook appeared wearing his sweatshirt with the word "Trap" on it.

That's all for now. Everyone take care and and have a great Friday!

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You have a great Friday too @korfan!

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Thanks! :)

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@korfan Looks like the rain has moved over to you, because it's been crazy hot from February into March over here, with some rain, but not much. Mostly dry now and the grass has turned brown. It's also hazy with a smoky smell in the air, but no one has owned up to major burning yet.

RIBB parents prospective son-in-law chat:
Ji Yuls omma: He must be well connected, well salaried and pliable before I let him get near my Ji Yul.
Hae Rin's omma: Don't you think a fine looking man whom your child likes makes the best boyfriend?
Ji Yuls omma: Is he quiet and obedient?
Hae Rin's omma: Do you want a son-in-law or a dog?
Ji Yuls omma: Now that's a thought! ... (texts secretary)
Secretary to Seo Joon: How much for your dog, Geum Bi?

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@growingbeautifully *laughing* That conversation sounds about right!

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I watched Trap to catch up. I made a mistake of reading the discussion section. So, well, you know how that goes.

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I meant the discussion section under the video, not discussion section here.

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Neighborhood Lawyer Jo Deul-ho: Really weird. well they seem to say all are done by the villain(Go Hyun-jung) but we didn't see that. I don't know anything anymore except I like Go Hyun-jung in the show. She has such strong presence, overshadowing the lead(Park Sin-yang) - maybe that is where the show went wrong.

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@fanwho I agree with you regarding Go Hyun-jung, her character is certainly the one that captures the viewer's attention. But this drama is almost like two different shows are airing simultaneously within one drama, if that makes any sense. One where she's killing people off from the welfare center and a second show where Jo Deul-ho is off on his own dealing with different court cases and getting into trouble himself. It's a bit jumbled for lack of a better word. I don't know.

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Hi everyone :)

Lately I’ve been watching mainly C-dramas. I didn’t like MoA’s ending and since everybody was talking about “Love O2O”; I started it and absolutely LOVED it ;) I binged it then when it was done I lurked on Db and found some people (don’t remember who) talking about “A love so beautiful”... I then proceeded to binge “Love me if you dare” & I’m halfway “When a snail falls in love” I’ll probably finish it tomorrow

I had never watched a Chinese drama and I only watched a few Taiwanese dramas years ago. My first drama ever was actually “It started with a kiss” ❤️ And then I watched “Why why love” & “Devil beside you”, cried in front of “Autumn Concerto”...
Then I somehow discovered K-dramas and somehow never looked back. For some reason I thought the dramas would be really soapy but they’re actually amazing & I love the short length of episodes.

I’ve been in an intense binging marathon instead of studying for my exams...

The only K-drama I’ve been really watching lately is “Forest of Secrets”. I watched the first episode months ago & didn’t particularly like it but since everyone told me some munch good things about it I gave it another go & OMG 😮. It is so well written! I love it! It is amazing! I haven’t finished I’m currently taking a break after *spoiler* YES’s death. I didn’t even like her character but I’m mourning. I didn’t see it coming. The writer is so amazing.
Definitely watch it!

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I keep hearing about Love O2O -- sounds like I need to check it out! FOREST OF SECRETS YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS! The best drama. A winner on so many levels. Always happy to find new converts ;)

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@anothernicole
If you want to read (note there will be spoilers) a detailed breakdown of Love O2O and have a few laughs and marvel at the detailed analyses, you may like to hop on to http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/02/06/love-o2o-eps-1-to-5-first-impressions-%F0%9F%98%8D/

She has done loads of posts on the minutae of the show. Even did one on the movie version of it.

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oooh thanks!!

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Yes! thank you! I’ve already finished the show so I’ll definitely check it out! I have yet to watch the movie I’m waiting a few more days to kind of forget a bit :)

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It's a blast watching dramas with Packmule3 at bitchesoverdramas. She's clever, irreverent and passionate. It was especially nice finding a home there when I was watching (and loving) at kdrama that everyone else seemed to dislike. ;D

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She certainly dares to be herself and different. I'm usually in awe at how she takes apart the dialogues and reads so much into parts of scenes. Makes so much sense and I start to wonder why I never saw that LOL. I guess I don't have the grey matter to wrap around all the shows after I've been spreading it thin on RL. ;-D

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Thank you so much I’ve been reading her blog for hours now 😃 She’s amazing so much details I hadn’t noticed... I’ve been reading about all the shows I’ve watched & it makes me want to watch them again with a new view.

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You're welcome @sibel Sib, glad you had a great time re-enjoying the show and enjoying that blog.

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😁 seriously I’m so excited about it thank you again!!

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Yes, same I kept hearing about it & I really really liked it; definitely watch it 😃

FS: OMG definitely one of the best dramas I’ve watched. I don’t wanna watch the last episodes because then there’ll be no more... I’m taking my time and savoring every minute of it!

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I watch very few Chinese shows, but the ones you mentioned I did watch, and they were good.

Love Me if You Dare and When a Snail Falls in Love and Love O2O. Wish there were more of this calibre. :-)

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They’re the only ones I’ve watched and so far I’ve only seen great ones hopefully I keep finding gems 😊

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My new favorite- The Story of Ming Lan.

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I’ve only watched historical dramas that are korean so far. Thank you I’ll add it to my list 😊

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+1 I watched all dramas mentioned here, but my fave is Ming Lan (along with Nirvana in fire)

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The Story of Ming Lan is my favourite too. I was just thinking today that I miss that drama.

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A Love so Beautiful remains my favorite c-drama.

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@growingbeautifully,
I just finished reading the English translation of NIRVANA IN FIRE (through completed chapter 106 out of 174), and expect to start watching soon, after I catch up with HAECHI. (I'm about to start watching ep. 5-6 now that CROWNED CLOWN is over).

I thoroughly enjoyed Cdrama GUARDIAN.

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Thank you for the recommendations @pakalanapikake

I guess I am always wary of shows that go on for a very long time. I tell myself that I may get into them when I retire.

With all these great Beanie recs, I've got to make my Plan to Watch list ... now where are my MyDramaList login credentials. ;-)

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@growingbeautifully,
Those are chapters, not episodes, of NIRVANA IN FIRE. The drama comes out to 54 x 45-min. eps.

Guardian is only 40 x 45-min. episodes. It was utterly cracktastic, and flew by. ;-)

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chinese dramas are nailing it in romance dpet now a days..
better, i know it feels impossible in the beginning, get into the acclaimed mythological series.. some of them are solid tragic/nice romance stories

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I’ll give it a try 😀

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The Legend of Fuyao. That’s a great Wuxia story. And it was an adaptation of a manwa, I believe.

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Thank you!

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I’ve finished “When a snail falls in love” last night. It was a great drama & I loved the ending kisses, rings, wedding ♥️ I love closed happy endings. (I’m deliberately ignoring the little signs they put for a maybe 2nd season) I really hope they will do a second season!

I’ve been reading Bitchesoverdramas blog all morning :) I’ll go back to my bingewatching after some bingereading

Thank you all for your recommendations. I’ll definitely check them out!

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I got back to the drama world after a long hiatus... Maybe that's why I feel weird about them now. I don't get that feeling when the two leads kiss anymore whereas I used to squeal from my entire body before... Maybe I have experienced too much of the real world to enjoy drama now... I'm sad though... I used to enjoy them so much.

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I went through this, too! I still can't pinpoint what it was--was it me who had changed or had all the dramas gotten weak?--and I still find it harder to get as invested as I used to, but I have also stumbled on some unexpected treats that gave me all the good feelings again <3 Hopefully, you'll find gems that do the same for you <3

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Thank you! Let's hope that I find my happiness again!

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I have to agree with you. It's been a long time since a rom com held my interest. I still love dramas, but romance isn't my thing anymore. Sad. It was always my favorite genre. Now I just find it delusional.

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Greenie, I was just wondering where you are and how you've been! I do find that I really appreciate delusional these days 😁

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Hi bbs! ^^ I've been trying to cut down on my DB time since this site is just addictive! It eats up hours of my day without me knowing it. HAHA
How are you? :D

I love delusional normally. XD Call it growing pains, I guess? ^^

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I find the rom com genre of kdramas to be very recyclable and cliche. You eventually lose interest after watching a few and the similarities are way too apparent. Sth that gets me out of slump are usually other genres that can keep you engaged. Sadly kdramas rom coms except for a few lack engagement.

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I also experienced the same thing after several drama slumps, but I feel like now that I’m watching dramas again I definitely watch less shows than I used to but better quality. And I’ve started watching genres I would never have before.

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Happy Friday, dear beanies! I haven't been able to watch as many dramas or post as much on the site lately, because we're busy packing and so forth, but I'm thankful this site will still be here when I log in from Texas in a couple weeks <3 In the midst of a lot of change, however welcome and exciting, it's nice to have a few familiar things --- and your familiar "faces" ;) dramas! beanies! ramyun for life! <3

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@anothernicole Where are you now?

I was mentioning that I was changing little things which had lasted for a long time, like watch, car, a colleague all in the same period ... it's a whole different ball game changing location, home, job. Yes the familiar things keep us anchored in the swirly waters of life. Thank heavens for DB and Beanies indeed!

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yes! changing small things is hard in its own way to me, though -- maybe even harder because there is less adrenaline to carry you through. I'm currently in California, and I'm moving to Texas. Truth be told, I have spent most of my life moving back and forth between these two states. I've lived overseas and in Boston as well, but most of my life is evenly split between Texas and California. (Sidebar: If you're American you know how odd that is; these two states are always at odds--outwardly the same in many ways, but on opposite ends of every philosophical spectrum.) So in a way, I am both leaving home and going home again. It is odd on some many levels.

WOW sorry to have spilled so much. I guess I have a lot to process about this that i haven't yet realized! xx

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Oh, don't apologise. What you say is interesting. I've never kept up with which State holds on to which ideology. And your belonging to 2 places with opposing viewpoints is intriguing. I don't suppose you behave any differently in each place or do you sometimes censor yourself so as not to give offence to the opposing viewpoint listener?

I almost could go to Tennesee for a conference this year, but I figured I might be pushing it with all my schedule, so I didn't apply for it. It would have been fun to meet up with Beanies in the US, in the State of Texas.

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Interesting...yes, I think I do censor myself a little. I know to be less vocal about my liberal views when I'm in Texas...and less vocal about my conservative ones when I'm here. Heh. But most people who know me well, know that I *really* like reasonable discussions and debate, and so I do have people I can talk freely about these things. Oddly, both of the places I lived in have usually been the outlier places. Right now, I live in the one very conservative part of California (a liberal place), and I formerly lived in the one very liberal part of Texas (a conservative place). So I am just a mishmash on so many levels, I think. I am going to a new city, so it will be interesting to see how I go on there. But I do have a lot of family and friends there, so some things are not so surprising... If you ever come to Texas, let me know :) Also Tennessee is gorgeous.

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...gotta be the OC!

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@beantown lololol yupppp! OC baby!

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Yes, it's quite interesting! I find it really fun over the years looking back to examine the different phases of my life. Having both California and Texas to process is very cool! I've had Oklahoma and Wisconsin for my longer term contrasts.

For me, I've found nice people in most places, even if I haven't matched the local stereotypes.

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Yes! OK and WI seems like it might be a similar range! It's funny how places can be so different and yet so alike, right? I don't match the local stereotypes in either of my places, either, but as you said, I've had no trouble finding nice people. And I do like moving, every so often, so I am excited :D <3

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@anothernicole It would be even more funny if you were moving from the OC to ...Austin?

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Hehe. This time I'm heading to the Dallas metroplex, but I *have* moved OC --> Austin before... I've also moved Austin --> OC, now that I think about it. I haven't lived in the DFW area since childhood, so this should be interesting.

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thanks sib <3

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Good luck on your move; wishing you careful movers, sturdy boxes and a welcoming new neighbourhood!🏡❤

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thank you!! <3

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Hello fellow K-drama fans!

I'm running a survey as part of my graduate project on the global appeal of Korean Dramas. I'd be really grateful for a little help!

Take this quick survey and answer a few questions on how you watch and how you pick new shows. All responses are completely anonymous.

https://link.medium.com/TPVZTKubQU

Reach out if you have any questions!

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Done. Hopefully it will help. Good luck on your project!

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Thank you so much! It's definitely helpful! When the project is done, I'll post a link to my thesis here for anyone interested!

If anyone wants to share the survey on their own network, you can retweet me from here: https://twitter.com/katzell/status/1103678700359479296

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Well you got me for your survey when I saw the photo of Lee Sang-yoon.

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Those dimples could kill!

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Done. Good luck with your research. Looking forward to reading your report

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Thank you!

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Done! I wish the best for your thesis! I'd like to read it when you'll finish your project.

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Thank you! I will make sure to post a link in the open thread when it's finished.

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Done! You picked an interesting topic! Good luck and make sure to tell us about the outcome ;)

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I will! Thank you so much.

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Thank you!

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Finished your survey and wanted to thank you for inadvertently helping me with a survey I'm currently testing for our Public Media station. One on my testers said he wanted more choices on the Likert Scale. (I currently have Frequently, Sometimes, Rarely, and Never).

Your scale of Very Likely, Somewhat Likely, Maybe, Unlikely, Will Not Watch, No Opinon allows for more nuance. I'd have to tweak some of the language because I'm asking about genres and web-related technologies used to access our content.

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I'm thinking of @sukstan today because it's the day her oppa enlists, so goodbye to Lee Jong Suk for two years! Stay strong, sukkie!

And, as reminded by @redfox, it's also International Women's Day, so happy day of accomplishment all you females and friends of females! Celebrate yourselves 💐

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Thank you for your kind thoughts bbstl! I'm really grateful 💕

Happy International Women's Day! I'm celebrating women like you who support their friends through tough times like when her oppa enlists 😂

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Good morning fellow Beanies! I've got a 3 day weekend which I'm excited for. Planning to see Captain Marvel tomorrow (yay for girl power!) then the rest of the 3 days will be spent binge watching Ashes of Love with my mom and little brother.

An Empress's Dignity 7.5/10 This drama was definitely entertaining but it was like a derailed train. Ending was badly done, especially with how they handled one of the main characters by literally just writing him out of the drama. It was almost like the drama forgot he was one of the main characters. The way the Dowager Empress and Seo Kang-Hee got caught was all down to them having a shouting match infront of the media who were hidden in the other room (mighty convenient). Seems like all these random plot points never really went anywhere and when I really think of the drama (I suggest you don't) I realize the drama in general never went anywhere. SO MANY ISSUES with the drama, mostly around the writing, but it was still morbidly entertaining to watch.

The Crowned Clown 9.5/10 This drama is SO GOOD. I have been following Yeo Jin-Goo's career since he played a young character in Moon Embraces the Sun, but he is absolutely blowing me away in this drama. I just finished ep. 8 and I had to rewatch that ending scene (if anyone watched it you know which one) because it was so well done. I had to keep reminding myself that the king and the clown were played by the same actor because Yeo Jin-Goo is doing such an astounding job of portraying both characters. The cinematography, the writing and the acting are all excellent. This drama is nearly perfect. The only thing that has not made it perfect so far is how they treated his younger sister. I HATE when shows or movies have to use the rape or murder of a woman to create manpain. It put a huge damper on me that the drama had to go there to give Ha Sun a reason to become a king, especially since the writing has been so topnotch everywhere else. I actually stopped watching it for a few because I was so disappointed (and still am).

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I Will Never Let You Go 8/10 This is a cute drama and I watch this when Clowned Crown gets to heavy or I get stressed about what will happen. It's pretty light-hearted and entertaining. However I am at about ep. 25 and things have been feeling a little draggy. The whole separation thing between the leads seemed a little undramatic and a bit unneeded (I kinda understand the reason but it's barely a reason). I also never really felt tons of love between the characters despite them professing they do. Hopefully once they reunite the sparks can really fly now that they both know they aren't siblings.

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About An Empress's Dignity: Besides Wang-sik's inglorious exit and Empress Dowager's moustache-twirling brand of evil, the worst part for me was the reveal about grandma's death. I felt they had been wasting my time for 15 episodes.

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A lot of how they revealed or tied up plot points felt almost pointless. I mean, what was the point of all the machinations and plans the empress and Wang-sik went through when it all boiled down to the 2 big villains just shouting their crimes at each other in front of the media?

The way the Grandma died was definitely lame. But at that point there was almost nothing about her death for so long that by the time the reveal came it was almost background noise to everything else.

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Not to forget that the shouting confession situation was a repeat, and she had only got community service the first time. Every time you thought "gotcha", turned out the universe didn't seem to care.

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I just got a Samsung Galaxy S10 so I've done my product placement duties for the next year and then some. XD

Serious question should we plan some kind of event to celebrate Ji Chang Wook's return from the army on April the 27th? That's 7 Fridays including today and then he's back on the next day a Saturday. I think it's maybe too late to start a Healer rewatch but maybe we could plan a group watch of a couple episodes on the 26th or something like that. If nothing else we could get on someone's fan wall and have a gif party on discharge day. Maybe we could have a contest-slash-poll of 1 episode of Healer or another show he was a lead in to re-watch (the K2 was not great but there was that sauna fight scene....) What are your thoughts?

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Hi @alessar Hi 5! What a lot of great suggestions you have!

I did think it would be nice to have something to commemorate JCW's return, but never thought of what. Your mention of a poll reminds me of the great polls and quizzes we had on the Healer thread. There was such a wealth of info and minutiae on the show and so many observant Beanies who actually knew the answers!

I'm thinking a combination of (a selected) 2 episodes of Healer re-watch with a quiz here on OT, on just those episode might be ok. The pity is I'm too tied up to do much about it this time. The episodes I would choose (because I like the fashion make-over) would be Episodes 9 and 10. :-D

We can also see what other suggestions come along. Thanks for the ideas and spearheading this! If we can get this going, it's going to be such great fun!!

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He's so cute during the fashion make-over trying to escape :D

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TGIF! Hope everyone had good week. On the dramaland we had some more shock- ITEM reveal! and what's with Light in your eyes?
Well, at least we have one less show to care about- I can't deny Huge writing problem with The Crowned clown (Does the means justify the ends? Failed big time to convince viewers that good guys are good) but the show was still engaging -actually everything was good except the plot (and maybe costume?). I treated it as just fantasy. I wasn't happy with the finale ep., but I got what I wanted- happy ending for the clown and double digit ratings. (So does it make TCC 10-11th highest ratings cable drama?)

Still casts were great and Jang Young-nam who played the empress dowager was one of them. I looked up her interviews and she had a few last year especially after the film "My promise with a spring day"(?) was released. But first a little intro. from wiki (and the like).
Jang Young-nam(46)- the reason she has a boy name "Young-nam" is because her grandfather hoped for a grandson when she had only older sisters - he went ahead giving her a boy's name to ease his disappointment. She was shy and never thought about acting, but one day when she was on the bus when she was in junior high, she happened to see Kyewon art high school's orange color school bus. "The mood of my bus and that bus felt so different, so I chose to study Theater in Kyewon art high school."

After graduating college Jang started stage acting in theater troupe Mokhwa Repertory Company. First project she did was Romeo and Juliet in 1995 and actually received criticism on acting at first (she lost the role but got it back in 2001). She did various plays and some of them made to film/drama like "Welcome to Dongmakgol" and "Kyungsook, kyungsook's father". Jang was once called as "DaeHakro Lee Young-ae" for her beauty known in the play industry. Since her last play 2011's "Forest Fire" Jang has worked on mostly film and dramas. Her first film role was 1997's Push! Push!. Since then she appeared in many films including most recent What a Man Wants, The Negotiation, Miss Baek, My promise with spring day(2018), Innocent Witness(2019) and Transformation (currently filming with Sung Dong-il and Bae Sung-woo- awwww Live!). Her first drama was 2003's MBC "Leaving Pippi Longstocking" and appeared in many dramas starting with Dalja's spring (2007), and most recently My Sassy Girl, The King loves(2017), Lovely Horribly, The Smile Has Left Your Eyes(2018), TCC(2019). She will also be in "My Country" (another saguek! with Yang Se-jong and Woo Do-hwan)

Jang appeared in plays directed by Jung Jin and did his SNL Korea(2012) as one of show's original members. She mostly played a middle class character in projects and people called her "Master of Commoner Acting". Jang is also known for her accurate pronunciation and clear voice. As side story, she is an actress with specialty in dying role- There were many occasions her character...

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...died in the middle of the plays as well as in dramas (TCC too lol). The most known case was "Moon Embracing the Sun" where she only appeared in ep. 1. but still made an impact. Jang herself mentioned that she feels like she will live a long life as she did so many dying roles.

In Dec. 2011, she married a theater director and university professor Lee Ho-Woong who is seven years younger. She and her husband have a son born in 2014. In the variety TAXI (2015.05) Jang mentioned she met her husband when working on a project. About him being 7 years younger, she said "I am woman too. It is not jealousy, but when I think he is with young students, I feel nervous."
Jang received various acting awards including the first one for Romeo and Juliet(2002), and 3 awards for A Werewolf Boy(2013) and MBC Drama Awards for The King loves (2017).

Here is Q&A session [news.hankyung.com, 2018.01.11]
Q: There is news you will return to the stage in spring of 2018 first time in 7 years.
Jang: It is not a familiar play. It is Greek mythology Elektra- the story of siblings plotting revenge against their mother for the murder of their father. I am curious how it will be made. They are writing again and I am curious how it will be re-written.
Q: How do you feel about returning to the stage?
Jang: Very nervous. Nervous and agitated. I worried a lot if I could do well. I have fear, but I also have hopes thinking about the time I start to practice and how I would be changed once I go up to the stage.

Q: You debuted with a play, yet we haven't seen you on the stage for so long. What was the reason?
Jang: Marriage for one. For a play I have to go out to practice almost every day. I already have to leave the house due to filming and if I do the play too, there would be no time for home. I think I considered the person who was in the house. Also if I do multiple projects, I can cause trouble to other actors. You have to practice together on the same time for a play, but since the schedule changes day to day for a broadcast show, you might not be able to make it for the practice, causing inconvenience for everyone. So I chose not being on the stage.

Q: Is there anything specific you are preparing for returning to the stage?
Jang: I am preparing mentally. I think that is the most important. I should do work-out too, but I wasn't good at. Bracing myself- that is what I am doing.
Q: The comment you made in recent appearance in tvN variety "Looking for Kim Moo-myung" was impressive. You said "I feel I am no-name all the time". What does that mean?
Jang: It could mean I feel thirsty for acting. These days things change so fast. Even if you were popular due to one drama, that doesn't last 2-3 years. I still have lingering feeling I had watching the drama when I was young like "Eye of dawn" "Sandglass". The feeling didn't disappear easily. But these days it seems changing quickly like People's mind. So I can't stay in the same place and...

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...since I have to keep changing as an actress I feel like I am no-name all the time.

Q: Since you debuted with a play in '95, you were not known to public for a long time. What is the reason you didn't give up?
Jang: Even though I was not known to the public, I enjoyed acting and being on the stage. I loved acting so much and I wanted to do well.
Q: You are an actress doing play, film and drama. It must be different in doing each.
Jang: Right. Actually it is difficult to separate the three and express and evaluate, but I still have difficulties in broadcast or film. As for play, even though it is difficult I feel more freedom, and I don't feel such freedom with broadcast and film. But I think that is just my problem. It could be because I couldn't break down the wall yet.

Q: Is there your own know-how to adjust in each case?
Jang: I think it requires lots of experience. For the stage there is no better teacher than experience. The mindset "Keep hitting and experience whether it works or not, just do if given" is important. And even though it is good to play many small roles, if you play a little heavier character, you would feel you took one more step. Actress herself's emotion, the close feel with camera, the relation on set etc. - all becomes good. So I think experience is the most important.

Q: You showed quality acting in "The King loves". Is there any difficulty playing roles in sageuk?
Jang: When you do a saguek, dialogue tone or words are difficult, but the most difficulty seems to be the preparation. It takes such long time to do makeup and hair styling, and hair piece is extremely heavy. They say it became lighter compared to the past, but I still got pain on my waist and shoulder. As I played the queen role in the show, I had to maintain it... Very difficult indeed.

Q: You seem to have no problem doing old and modern shows. Personally which one is more fun for you?
Jang: Saguek is very interesting. It is difficult but interesting. I think it is genre with more energy. I think I like those which I can put my vigor into.
Q: What was the most memorable character and project for you?
Jang: It has been a while, but I remember "A Werewolf Boy" a lot. I used to play strong characters but in the film I could act natural and comfortably. Actually while acting I doubted "Is this right? Doing like this is ok?", but besides acting, the whole story and plot of the film were all very good.

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...Q: Is there a colleague you get strength from living acting life?
Jang: Actress Moon Jung-hee (Sweet, Savage Family). She is dongsaeng I like a lot. We exchange messages and cheer each other on from time to time. We want to meet but it is not easy as both are busy.
Q: Is there an actor you want to match your acting tone as partner?
Jang: There are many, but I like actor Ha Jung-woo very much. I want to work with him even as a character like noona. He seems to do acting very well. And has full of charm. He is one of actors I really want to meet on the set.

Q: Is there an actor you want to meet again?
Jang: Si-wan yi (Jang was Im Si-wan/king's mother in the King Loves)
Q: You met him in the recent project already.
Jang: Si-wan yi is very nice. And honest. He is young but has side of being traditional amazingly. Like a child-grownup? That is very attractive. He is cute and likable.
Q: You worked with Yoon-ah a lot too.
Jang: I worked with her in "Confidential Assignment" and "The King loves". She is very cute too. Energetic, brave and amiable.

Q:Is there a character you want to challenge?
Jang: There are too many. But I don't have "I want to play such role" in detail. I am happy when I can breathe well, work enjoying doing the project. But it is not easy to meet such project. I have thought I want to do a humane acting rather than character consuming role.
Even though I am late in age, I am going through growing pain. Reality and actress and acting I pursued and wanted- I still keep worrying and thinking what is the point both can co-exist.

Q: Is there an actor/actress who made Jang Young-nam nervous?
Jang: Si-wan was young, but seems to be one of actors who made me nervous. He is an actor who acts very well His glare is very good. Not just Si-wan, most of hoobae actor/actresses make me edgy. Most of them seem doing better than the basics. I've seen no one who noticeably can't act.

Q: What could be important to act well?
Jang: Again, I think experience. As you keep acting, if you meet a good project and character, there is moment it feels like you wore custom-made clothes. As doing that your acting skill also increases. Besides acting well, atmosphere around the actor can make him acting well too. Personally I don't think I can tell acting well, or not acting well. Could it just be difference in experiences? There is moment you feel the set is comfortable and you like it. Pleasurable set and atmosphere could give you energy and strength. You can't do acting just with logical thoughts. Heart is important. Sense and Sensibility/ Reason and emotion go together.

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Q: I can't imagine Jang Young-nam who is not an actress. Since when you dreamed of becoming an actress?
Jang: I thought of taking the road of actress ever since I studied Theater. I didn't think "I have to become an actress", but I thought "I want to act well". There was a moment I thought "Acting seems very interesting. I want to do well. I want to work hard". I think if I thought I had to become an actress I doubt I would be still acting.

Q: Don't you want to challenge a variety?
Jang: Variety is good. I enjoy watching JTBC "Knowing brothers". I want to join if an opportunity is given and time is right.
Q: Is there any part you like the most about yourself?
Jang: I am a person with many inferior complex, so there is no part I like particularly. I don't seem to have a face giving comfortable feeling- it is more on strong side. And voice stands out already.
Q: You voice seems to be charming point, but not to yourself?
Jang: I worried a lot about my voice when I was young. When we finished a performance, we used to have a survey from audiences. I used to hear "Does that actress have a cold?" I heard my voice was weird a lot. I lost my confidence and apprehended that time, but as I kept acting with "don't care" attitude, from some point people said my voice was good. "You voice is charming" they said. People passing me might not recognize me, but they say "I feel I heard your voice somewhere.". So I think my voice is distinct.

Q: How do you want to be remembered as an actress?
Jang: Humane actress. Actress who lives well. "That person lives well. Comfortable to look at. She gives me inspiration." I want to hear such words.

I remember how she fondly mentioned Im Si-won in an interview after "The king loves" (where she played the queen Princess Wonseong and Wang Won's mother) ended. When most people praising Hong Jong-hyun who played love rival Wang Rin I loved Im Si-won-another idol turned great actor!!. I am waiting for his next drama -OCN's Strangers From Hell.. And we need another Miseang^^

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Thanks so much for translating this long interview with Jang Young-nam. She made a big impression on me in MOON EMBRACING THE SUN, too. And I loved her as the badass princess in THE KING LOVES. She's got a unique voice, and oodles of talent.

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There were a couple of more interviews from the casts of The Last Empress. I was waiting for one of Sin Sung-rok who received much love, but The latest interview I find is the one done when Man Who Dies to Live(2017) ended. Maybe later.
Meanwhile here are two interviews. First is the one of Lee Soo-ryon(38) who played Empress Dowager's chief secretary Choi. I mentioned about her before because of her unique background (presidential security guard, 2004-2013).

First a little intro.[wikitree, 2017.06.15] Lee explained how she became the first female security guard in the Blue house on the variety Taxi. "I didn't plan to become one. I am a type who follows what is fun. Even though I look quiet and faminine, I had different kind of school life. When I was in elementary school, my mother told me to learn dance or ballet, and I said I wanted to learn Taekwondo." She is Taekwondo five-degree black belt(five dan). "I learned Taekwondo and beat the boys up a lot when I was young. I liked sports and took the Taekwondo lessons but I majored in English in the college. I also joined the broadcasting club in the college. As I was wondering what career I should choose, I studied for the exam thinking I might become a reporter or PD. But I saw a notice looking for woman for the first time in the presidential security service (2004). I thought that would be very fun. My heart pounded. My major in English became a big help. In their jobs English is very important. Since security guards stay by VIP closely to the end in an emergency situation, they have to be able to communicate in English fluently." When asked "So the reason you became presidential security guard was only because it looked fun?", Lee said "Yes. I wanted to do something making my heart fluttered."

Lee also mentioned how she stepped into the acting industry.[etnews, 2017.03.22] While she was working in VIP's security detail team starting from late prsident No Moo-hyun for 10 years, she also did some reporter works and commercial. Lee resigned her job because she couldn't give up the dream of acting, and after doing over 150 auditions, she finally had her debut. She played a crucial side character in "Best Couple". Actually she had the audition for some short character, but the company offered another role who was the BF of Lee Dae-hye. It is said Lee told "As a person who was sticking to the president, I don't feel intimidated by anyone." and her bold remark landed her the role. She appeared in many dramas starting with Gapdong and Pinocchio (2014), and recent Risky Romance and Where Stars Land(2018).

[OSEN, 2019.03.03] In the Last Empress Lee Soo-ryun played the loyal chief secretary Choi of Empress Dowager Kang. Because of her role staying beside ED Kang, Lee appeared with Shin Eun-kyung in all episodes. When asked how the chemistry with Shin was like, Lee said they were lover relationship. "I stayed with her from the beginning to end. When there was a scene she...

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...filmed by herself sunbae-nim even said "It doesn't make sense there is no chief secretary Choi." I grew fond of her. And she initiated the joke first. She is a person who has humor in daily life. She agonized constantly over how to make the scene fun. I was able to learn a lot from her."

Secreatry Choi was a character who committed evil misdeeds without feeling sorry. She carried out wicked jobs with ED's order, but never felt any quilt. However viewers' response toward her was changed over the time- viewers started to view her as cute. "I really tried hard to show a scary person. I think (people not hating her) maybe because secretary Choi's evil deeds failed many times. She might be a character who annoyed the Empress Dowager the most. There was even comment if she was hidden X-man. It seems the viewers felt her being on their friendly side." She added that her character's humane side came alive more thanks to PD Joo Dong-min's direction. "I wanted to express more emotion. But director's idea of the character was someone who was restrained and neat. When I acted following his guide, it seems the scene showing secretary Choi's emotion stood out to describe her clearly."

Her character's charm hit the peak in the prison scene in the final episode. In the prison she betrayed ED Kang and lived sucking up to the no.1 figure, wearing Na Wang-sik wig. "I like to be messed up. I wore Na Wang-sik wig without any hesitation. I wanted to express horribly ruined image. It doesn't mean it came out from nowhere. It could be the case she was learning the skill to open a beauty shop after serving her term, or she might wanted ED tormented, reminded of Na Wang-sik looking at me."

Lee Soo-ryun worked as a presidential security officer for 10 years serving 3 presidents before she started to act. "I thought acting was attractive even when I was young, but I thought it was something someone pretty or someone with talent could do. Fortunately I got a job in the presidential security service. I worked hard and there were many interesting incidents. But you know there is nothing new if you do the same thing for 10 years. I am the type who can't live the settled and predictible life, and acting came to my mind when I wanted a change. I thought even if I can't be the lead or a star, it is worth to try. I wanted to have fun in life."

Some people around her worried about her quitting the stable job, but what she wanted was "acting" not "success". "I thought about the reason why people tried to discourage me. Usually when people say "It won't work" it means nobody recognizes me, or I live just playing side or small characters for the rest of my life. But what I really wanted to do was "acting". Unless I can't get any acting opportunity, I thought "Why can't I do such thing". I was sure I could live even if I hit the rock bottom." Lee continued, "Actually people who are not very close worried about me. They show...

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...concern, but there are hardly anyone who has the solution. People I care had faith in me with thoughts "Since she said she would, she must have a plan."

Lee said actually starting acting late has benefits. "Everybody said I ditched my 10 year VIP security guard experience. But I think I left with lots- Experience or some resilience inside. Thanks to that I was able to go forward keeping my balance. Also it is age I know acting is a task working with other people. It is fortunate that I became an actress at this age." Lee said she has gotten various offers thanks to the drama. "It is starting stage. Currently I always have the qualifier "The Last Empress", or "presidential security guard" in front of the name Lee Soo-ryun. I'd like to become an actress who people can trust with only my name."

LSR fighting!

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I didn't watch the show, but I thoroughly enjoyed reading this interview. Thanks, @fanwho!

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Here is another interview from a cast of The Last Empress- Ha Do-kwon(real name: Kim Yong-gu, 42) who played security chief Choo working for the Emperor (Sin Sung-rok), who was replaced by Na Wang-sik later in the show. Ha debuted only in 2016 appearing in "Gogh, The Starry Night" (2016), and did dramas like Saimdang(2017), Thirty But Seventeen(2018), but he actually lived as musical actor Kim Yong-gu for 20 years. [OSEN, 2019.03.03] In the show, his character captain Choo was loyal to the emperor Lee Hyuk(Sun Sung-rok), but replayed by Chon Woo-bin/Na Wang-sik(Choi Jin-hyuk) and eventually was ordered to kill himself. So people believed he was leaving the show that way- Only until he revealed himself in front of Min Yoo-ra character.

Ha also thought his character died. But as he came alive again, he also gained his name Choo Gi-jung (ep. 16). "I thought he died and that was the end. I said goodbye to other actors and staff members before I left. All even clapped for me. But they contacted me to show up again as I reappeared in ep 16 scripts. Since then I gained the name Choo Gi-jung. So I said "Hello, I am Choo Gi-jung. Nice to meet you." But he met his death again with the betrayal of Min Yoo-ra." Captain Choo died twice in the show, but actor Ha Do-kwon came alive. He called "Opportunity" at the situation. "I was so happy. I was happy with the fact that I could appear again. As you know it is not easy to present various characters in one project. If I showed previous captain Choo who had dandy and official image, I thought I could show another image. I thought a lot about how I can make me and the project more engaging." The result of that thought was shaving. PD Joo Dong-min's suggestion "if there is preposterous change, the scene will come alive more" helped on the decision. "I thought I might shave. I wanted to express rough feel. I couldn't lose weight in short time I had. So I decided to shave my head. I shaved it with captain Choo's deeply chagrined feeling. With ajussi mind."

Ha also expressed gratitude to Sin Sung-rok who worried with him about Ha's re-appearing scene. Actually two actors were close even before the show, thanks to musicals they did together. "We became close doing musical performances together. We speak the same language. Mostly we talk about acting. I majored in vocal music, and Sung-rok likes vocal music a lot. And both of us like work-out so we do checks each other when we work out together." But this was the first time they did the broadcast project together. About Sin Sung-rok, Ha said "I got very professional and artist feel on the set. Then I thought he was actor Sin Sung-rok, not my friend, my dongseang Sing Sung-rok." Ha graduated majoring in vocal music from Seoul univ. and had spent 20 years on the stage. He even worked as a member in a well-known Japan drama house. But He decided to do acting and changed his name to Ha Do-kwon with sincere determination. "As I did opera, I...

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...hit the language barrier a lot. I went on the stage after studying Italian or German as much as possible, but when I didn't understand the meaning clearly, I felt like I was just imitating. I felt like I was telling a lie. I chose to do musical to be free from such dilemma. But at some point I thought dialogue works better than music to express someone's life realistically. I wanted to do relatable acting drawing empathy."

When asked his unique strength as an actor, Ha said "I can't dare to say about that part. If someone asks "Do you act well?" I say "I can't act well." Since I've never learned acting systematically, I try to be the person for whatever character offered to me. I don't want to be fake, or do fake. I want to do earnest acting." His role model is Spanish actor Javier Bardem. "Bardem looks like his character self not the actor for whatever character he plays, not limited to one type of character. From "Beautiful" to "No Country for Old Men" he looks like a different person in all. He is unpredictable actor. Very attractive." Ha said he's been getting various offers since the Last Empress. "Eventually I want to become a convincing, reliable actor. I want to receive the review "if the project with Ha Do-kwon you can watch trusting. But before that I will try to become an actor who can grow breathing together with public for a long time."

grace of GOD by Kim Yong-goo 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naX_DPYAfF4

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Thanks for your translation, @fanwho! And for that link. Ha Do-kwon has a beautiful voice!

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About Choi Jin-hyuk (Na Wang-sik/Chun Woo-bin) of The Last Empress: (I didn't have time to watch this but) the SBS variety "We Will Channel You" had a new corner "Powerful Gym" meeting people in the gym. Choi Jin-hyuk appeared as the first guest and talked about various things. Here are some of what he mentioned.-Soompi also had a post with some translation. [OSEN, 2019.03.07] The reason he appeared in the program? Choi said, "I want to strengthen face muscle. I am awkward at expressing my emotion and it shows on face clearly, and I'd like to hide it." He picked his eye smile as his weakness. "I heard I was flirting a lot. And I didn't like because my character looked weak. But when I tried not to do it, some people misunderstood I was mad."

Choi said he decided to star in the Last Empress because he liked Na Wang-sik character. He also explained how two actors played the same character Na Wang-sik (with actor Tae Hang-ho). Actually he was supposed to have special makeup, but there was danger of falling into the water on the scene, so they decided to have two actors play the same character. He also mentioned the scene Tae Hang-ho changed to Choi Jin-hyuk while cutting his hair didn't have any composite or editing but used just filming technique.

Choi also explained his 15 year friendly relationship with Jang Na-ra (who is 4 years old than Choi). "I was close to Park Kyung-rym noona before I debuted. She took me around introducing me to people. One time I had a chance to have a dinner with Jang Na-ra noona. After the meal Jang Na-ra noona suggested to come to her house and play Go-stop. I went and there were her whole family - her parents and brother. We(her father and noonas) played Go-stop until dawn. I contacted her afterwards." He added, "I felt awkward doing melo with Jang Na-ra noona (in The Last Empress). Noona treated me like a child. Because I knew her since I was 20."
When asked "You wanted to be seen as a man to her?" Choi said "I had such mind a little. Because she treated me like a kid too much. So I even told her directly- I said "Ye-ya" is the word grandmother uses to call her grandson.(heh I can picture Choi saying that in frustration!) What's amazing is that noona thinks she is almost like of grandma age."

Choi is from Mokpo, Julla namdo. He said he didn't keep in touch with his friends to fix his satoori. "When I did the drama, my satoori came out. So I determined to fix it even though I wasn't going to at first for love for my home." Choi also mentioned his original dream was to become a singer. "One time when I sang at the school festival when I was in high school, I got goosebumps. So I told my parents I wanted to become a singer, and got good beating. But they found me a room in Seoul. That was when I was 19-20 years old." Choi continued, "I didn't know anyone. I am sorry to say this (didn't mean people in model profession), but all I had was looks and height, so I studied...

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...modeling. And I was scammed a few times. One day while I did grocery shopping in the mart, Park Kyung-rim noona's manager approached me and asked if I wanted to become an actor. I thought he was a con man, and he called Park Kyung-rim noona in the office." That way he stepped into the industry.

Choi also talked about the actor audition program which had 6000 to 1 competition rate, and he won. As the last mission he had to act the drama "First Love"(1996) in his own way, and he actually contacted actor Choi Soo-jong(My Only Ally) who played the lead in the drama. Choi Soo-jong told him to come home and he went at 11 PM which he realized he made a mistake. But Choi Soo-jong gave him acting lesson sincerely for a hoobae who didn't even debut yet. "He even acted himself in front of me. Watching him, enormous energy surged inside me. I think I won the first place when I carried that energy along."

Choi Jin-hyuk is not his debut name. "Actually my original name is Kim Tae-ho. When I debuted with that name, PD Kim Tae-ho of "Infinite Challenge" had many articles (well known), so I went to the place to change my name. After I changed my name, everything went so well including landing the lead role." Choi is also called "Kiss Master" not having NG on Kiss scenes. "Don't you think having NG on the Kiss scene is suspicious? I think having NG on kiss scenes means you have ulterior motive." (since you have to shoot again heh). Also Choi emphasized her mother's store was original Mokpo crab meat bibimbap. "My mother used to fix it for me, and after a few years I noticed other people all eat like that." And he showed off the lunch box his mother prepared in the show.

CJH fighting! btw What is he talking about?? I love his eye smile. Please don't change.

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Hey all:

Hope everyone is doing well.

Am watching:

Romance is a bonus book -- very lovely, but now i suspect the angst is also upon us.

Touch your heart -- So sweet and realistic! I'm so glad we don't have the typical overdone tropes. I realized that this, along with LIFE, is the second LDW drama i've seen where our hero is dragged out of a kind of isolation/broken personality to find love.

Radiant -- it's slow going sometimes because that angst is laid on thick but it really does touch the soul. So in this case, the angst works.

Legal High -- Very good and funny. I laugh out loud at this one.

Spring Turns to Spring -- I also laugh out loud at this one. I love greed coupled with stupidity.

One of my fave Chinese dramas is: The Golden Eyes. It's got a business jdrama vibe and is educational and suspenseful. Who knew gems could be so exciting? I had to give up Haolan because it was just plain exhausting to watch. Never a let up for our victimized heroine. Am waiting for All is Well to be subbed.

Jdramas:
A sharply graceful girl was sweet, and ultra minimalist. I think it stopped before it even started but it was sweet while it lasted.

Perfect Crime: Erotic and vengeful. What could be better? I still like the villain but i suspect i won't when i get to know him. Think of it as a kind of fifty shades of gray. Awaiting the rest of the subs.

Happy weekend, all!

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I am glad there is Spring Turns to Spring. Because I need the laugh before I watch Poong Sang.
And Legal High: I am getting used to this version. I like it and love the funny epilogue.
Now I have to check The Golden Eyes.

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I didn't know about Legal High's epilogues! That is one hilarious drama.

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My new best friend is FF button so I enjoy kdramas again. An episode will be shorter by 10-15 minutes. Haha. I've decided to watch the popular dramas in this fast forwarding manner. My first one is DOTS.

From now on my new motto is that don't regard life with expectations just like the way you go to a restaurant without a menu card. I want to make my life simple. Actually, I'm that type of person whose personal preferences are really only made certain when I discover that I dislike a thing or a person. I never know that I like something or someone until I give it a try or get to know them. I will be a sort of Yes Man, just within reason.

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Mini-OT week 108. Work then a final four b-ball game (kids’ school, 4 th quarter) and all tied up!)) then a 2 hour road trip to see the nieces and nephews. So, I hope you all have a wonderful weekend! I’m just watching TYH (love) and RIABB (barely like).

Convo:

Son: My best friend (male) and I made a pact not to ever marry anyone.

Me: *except each other?*

Son: (like he heard my thoughts) And not each other either!

Me: Wow, honey, I wasn’t thinking that! (I totally was.) But I’d totally love your best friend as a son. *He’s a math genius too.*

Moral of the story: My son and the math genius?

2nd Moral: Not a basketball fan until my daughter’s friend’s brother is the MVP (so far scoring 30 of the team’s 48 points)!

3rd moral: Have a wonderful International Women’s Day!

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What is this month's the most compelling drama in Korea? It has to be Seungri's BURNING SUN scandal which has more plot twists, revelations, bad actors, sleazy events and alleged corruption than any k-drama.

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As International Women's Day has just passed in Australia, I would like to make a comment about two women in my life. The first is my sister-in-law who at 71 is fighting a very rare cancer which is debilitating and causing a lot of distressing issues for her as well as not reacting to the treatment. This week Jean booked her third holiday for the year because in her words "I am not dying from cancer I'm bloody well going to live large with it as long as I can." The second wonderful woman is my daughter-in-law who is battling the dreadful and insidious melanoma which has spread to her lungs and brain. Belinda is 42, mother of a 17 year old son and 14 year old daughter and has always been extremely active in sport, while going through her treatment and the resulting side effect such as hair loss, nausea and massive puffiness from so many steroids she has continued to work when she can as deputy head of her daughter's college and recently took up aqua aerobics and walking netball because she felt the need to exercise. I can't tell you how much I admire these two women and wish I had half their fortitude and strength, while they urge each other on through their treatments neither will give in and plan to live life how they choose.

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Hello Fellow Beanies..this is my first comment on the site. I love the all the amazing love shared here for kdramas. I have recently taken up a new challenge and relocating to Uganda. Are there any beanies that are based there who can share what's the country like. I would love to connect with you all.

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Welcome! If you don't get any responses you might want to try again next week closer to when the Open Thread begins. Good luck with your relocation.

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Welcome 😃 Good luck with your relocation!

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Welcome!

Unfortunately I have no info to offer regarding Uganda, however, I hope all goes well with your relocation to the country.

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Hi @mylovehaejin,
Welcome aboard. It is always nice to meet a beanie at their initial comment. Sorry I cannot help with your relocation. Sounds exciting though.
How long have you been following kdramas and what are your favorite genres?

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Hello beautiful beanies!

I’ve finished The Master’s Sun! The ending was much better than I have cooked up in my head. I’ve also finished Titans on Netflix while I was sick. It’s a gritty version of Teen Titans, honestly I don’t know if I like it or not.

What’s with the western shows trying to make gritty shows? Give us more cute rom-coms, supernatural comedy and for the love of god, please give us a funny superhero other than Deadpool!

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Minglan is such a gem. And Nirvana in Fire is another one of my favourite.

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Bookmarked! Thanks!

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I was watching a Youtube clip of episode 7 'The Light In Your Eyes/Radiant/Dazzling' when one of the characters starts singing. What? This wasn't on Viki. They has entirely deleted it, replaced it with some random instumental piece. I suspect there have been be another two songs in the episode that Viki cut out too and another in episode 8. Its hard for Viki to claim they're constrained by copyright laws when the stuff they cut is on Youtube for all the world to see no problem.

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I wonder if the edit for Viki is part of why it seems so disjointed to me?

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Hey does anyone here identify as EXO-L? Because I am doing a linguistic microstudy on our fandom and I need people to fill in a questionnaire really quick!

https://goo.gl/forms/jKgV7zxvI8fT9jBz2

I'd be super grateful!

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